April 14, 2025 • 45 mins
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We dive deep into the complexities of YouTube growth, from networking with larger creators to understanding the platform's evolution as "the new television." Travis shares his personal success stories of collaborating with million-subscriber channels by making participation easy and relevant.
• Discord community becoming an essential lifeline for creators who need to connect with like-minded individuals
• Sponsorship opportunities exist for all niches - even cooking channels can secure relevant brand deals
• How to network with larger creators by bringing clear value and making collaboration effortless
• YouTube positioning itself as "the new television" doesn't mean abandonment of shorts
• Subscriber plateaus are completely normal, even after initial growth
• Finding community is crucial for weathering the emotional journey of content creation
Join our Discord community at vidiq.com/discord where you can connect with other creators and participate in our monthly live podcast recordings.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome back to the only podcast that's now 70% less
peeps.
Thank the Lord for that.
I'm Travis and I'm here withJen again.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Does that mean we have 30% peeps in this episode?
This is the 30% peeps.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
If you missed the last episode, shame on you.
First of all, you need to goback and watch that.
Yes, less peeps this timethrough.
I'm Travis.
I'm here with Jen.
If you've never watched usbefore, you're welcome.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Now's the time to start.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
This is definitely the time to start.
We're here to help you growyour YouTube channels and answer
your questions and have asecret candy podcast somewhere
in between.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Although I have something secret that's not
candy, but it is something thatwe've talked about, but it's not
candy for the end of this one.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
We have talked about it.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
We have talked about it.
Oh okay, I thought maybe youjust tried to sneak some in.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
We've actually gotten a couple comments about it, but
it's not candy, so I'll givethat spoiler, but I'm not giving
any other spoilers.
I also want to say that Inoticed when we came up that in
the bag you had, like, somethings.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
I thought I was getting my water.
Travis was snooping.
There was syrup.
What was that about?
Snooping in my bag is what I'mhearing.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
I think we'll get back to that later.
I think I'm a little worried,shame.
Anyway, we have a lot to talkabout today and one of the
things I do want to talk aboutis our Discord.
And the reason I want to dothat is because recently but I
do kind of merge Discords and weactually recorded an episode
which by the time you watch thisyou would have already seen,
where we got to talk to you, thelisteners and film the.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
It was so fun.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
It was so fun and we're going to do it again, and
again, and again and again.
Yeah, we are.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Because it was great to actually talk.
The emails and the texts arereally fun, but to have a
conversation, that was a treat.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
That was so much fun and you can join it for free.
It's vidIQcom slash Discord andcome check us out.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Now, and if you're a member of one-on-one coaching,
you have access to the specialarea.
Yeah, yes, there is a specialarea.
There is a special area, thereis it's locked off unless you're
in booster.
Well, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
So if you're already a member, you have even more
than you knew but there's asection just for podcast
listeners which is free, so youcan go to that and watch that
for free.
And uh, someone was in there.
Um, j Jerry was in theretalking about his channel and I
answered him and he answered.
Since we've been recording, Ikind of just wanted to answer
(02:12):
here.
I know it's probably like aweek later, I'm answering one of
the podcasts a week later.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
All right, well, the Discord.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
Listen, it's all about the thought.
It's a thought that counts.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
It's a community in the Discord.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
That it's all about the thought.
It's a thought, it's acommunity in the discord.
That's the tree.
Yes, so Jerry talks about howyou know.
He said I know the boost,talked about it before, but I
have a and it was a question onpodcast about sponsorship and
secondary revenue.
I know sponsors can help orPatreon or something like that,
but he feels certain niches,let's say cooking, are a bit
harder for a sponsor.
It's not like pots and pan.
Pots and pan brands wouldsponsor and I'm like why
(02:45):
wouldn't?
they why they absolutelyliterally every single one, like
joshua weisman's video is likesponsored by yeah cookware so I
kind of said that and I talkedabout affiliate sales would be
good too.
And he says um, because the wayI think of it, you just go to
the market and buy them.
I might know one brand, theymight sell things.
That's kind of the reason ofwondering, like, do you know,
for example, a potter brand ordo you walk into a random store
(03:09):
and buy one?
So, in other words, if you,when you go in the store, are
you thinking of this brand?
Well, if I saw gordon ramseyuse it, heck yeah yeah um, like
100, like you make laundrycontent.
I think the chances are small.
You would get a brand sponsorfrom bosher or whirlpool, for
example, which are pretty big,not saying it's impossible, but
very unlikely.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
So I've been sponsored by laundry detergent
and I'm just a regular personeverybody does laundry, that's
what you're not thinking abouteverybody does laundry.
It's not as everybody cooksit's so overly.
It's not as complicated aspeople think it is yeah, I think
that he was thinking it reallyto the next level and like
that's the only type of sponsorsyou can have on your channel,
like no, I'm sure you've watchedchannels that, even if you say
(03:50):
you're like an outdoor, you'rean off-grid channel, you can
still have a sponsor.
That's cookware like you couldhave cast iron cookware like you
can.
That can still be relevant inyour life.
It's relevant to your audience.
You still have that laundrysponsor because people still
gotta to wash their clothes.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
You better wash your clothes.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
It's about you standing behind a product and
delivering it in a trusting wayto your audience if you
recommend it.
Yeah, that's the way it'ssupposed to be done.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
That's the way it is.
You'd be surprised.
You'd be surprised.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
How many creators have AG1 sponsors?
Speaker 1 (04:20):
and it's like they're not nutritionists, they're not
health gurus, bro, that would bethe logic well, it's like a
little bit like saying uh, allthose gurus that uh like
marriage counselors that havenever been married, or, you know
, kids experts that don't havekids they're selling divorce
attorneys.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
What are they selling I?
Speaker 1 (04:40):
have zero idea.
That's actually not a bad idea.
I would love to be sponsored bya divorce attorney, because
I'll tell you right now I canget you divorced for sure All
right.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
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link.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
If your partner is terrible and you can't wait to
get out of the house and youwant to just listen to us, click
the link in the descriptionbelow to 1-800-DIVORCE-HER-NOW.
Okay, Anyway if you'relistening to this podcast,
you're trying to grow yourYouTube channel.
I don't know what you justheard, but let's just assume
that you are trying to grow yourchannel.
Yeah, you can send us an emailat theboostvidIQcom.
Or if you're listening to theaudio podcast, of course you can
(05:14):
click the link for the textmessage.
But of course if you'relistening to the audio podcast,
watch this episode you probablywant to go check it out we're
literally here live, so jen nowis going to read all of the
emails.
I know people love when jenreads the emails I am going to
read.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
So this one is, let me just give a little.
So this one's from orlando andhe says a couple of days ago I
found something interestingwhile exploring the internet, so
did I that's, that's a solidhook.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Not gonna lie.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
According to YouTube CEO, YouTube is not just a video
platform, it's a new television.
So this is what we've beenchatting about.
This was a really big, reallyhot topic from when we had our
episode with Benji.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
And it carried over into Discord and it's still so
relevant now.
So, orlinda, we're here forthis.
Uh, this melds perfectly withmy channel statistics incredible
.
I cater to the 45 plus crowd,which I don't think that there
is a tv watching demographic.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
To my knowledge, I don't.
I haven't correlated the two,but I think he's just saying
this is what his his avatar is,his viewer avatar is.
I'm just I don't know if thereis.
To my knowledge, I don't Ihaven't correlated the two, but
I think he's just saying this iswhat his his avatar is, his his
viewer avatar is.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
I am just, I don't know if there is.
To my knowledge, I don't thinkwe have like.
Oh, it's the, you know, gen zyeah, that's, I don't think that
we have.
At least I don't know thatinformation, yeah, yet um.
So this is his demographic 45plus crowd, 60.4 percent.
Uh, watch on tv, that's a lotthat's amazing 70.7 percent of
(06:48):
which are male and watch fromthe united states cool.
This is, by the way, is exactlywho I set out to attract which
is perfect.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
You're a genius amazing.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
However, all this got me thinking being the new
television and going after theshorts market are two things
that don't meld very well.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
I agree, this is interesting.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Most tvs are 16 by 9 landscape and shorts are 9 by 16
portrait.
What's more, shorts lookterrible on widescreen they do
wait.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Have you watched?
Speaker 2 (07:17):
yes, and I immediately stopped okay, I've
had shorts that do play on tv,because they will play next.
Of course, I have somethingelse we have to call out too.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Uh-oh.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Finally, shorts are well short and the TV crowd
favors long content.
This is an interesting part,because you remember in the
meeting maybe it was just inSlack, but I think it was sorry,
I'm going to call you out Dansaid that he watches shorts on
his TV.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Well, he's a weirdo.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
That's not nice.
Dan's weird he watches shortson tv.
But I reached out to a creatorwhen I was still doing coaching
who was had a lot of shortstraffic and they also had a very
high percentage of tv trafficfor their shorts.
They have a younger demographicand we had people that who
commented that it was their kidswatch shorts only on TV.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
Interesting.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
And I remember we laughed about it because we were
like that's psychotic, that'sliterally psychotic.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
So there are some TVs that will rotate.
I don't know if you knew this.
I've never.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
I think you made that up, super dumb.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
No, literally true, actually true.
Alright, let's try.
Yeah, can you do it?
No, I don't think that's goingto work.
I think it's silly.
I think these people aresociopaths, but I can be wrong.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
They're ready for the future.
They were ready for YouTube torelease shorts on.
Tv.
This is wild.
I, this is wild, but I think soI see where this is going, but
I think there's a lot of thingsto counter this argument so
pretty much it says.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
if YouTube is going after living room views, are we
losing interest in the shortsworld?
So yeah, so essentially, are wehaving to choose between shorts
and long form TV viewing versusshorts?
And I think later in themessage he said something about
Google is very fast to closethings down.
There's an entire website Idon't know if you know this is
dedicated to all the differentprograms google has shut down.
I think it's called the googlegraveyard or something like that
(09:12):
.
Adorable, um, because they theyshut a lot of programs down.
They'll bring them up and thenthey shut them down if they
don't work, goodbye.
Um.
So I mean, do you remembergoogle hangouts?
Speaker 2 (09:21):
yeah, are those not alive anymore?
Oh, they haven't been for avery long time really I used to
google hangout all the time,yeah, of course you haven't in a
long time, because it doesn'texist anymore well, I guess so
among other things well then,you could.
Well, the thing was that youcould facetime with like non yes
iphone users which you stillcan.
Now, I don't know well, I'msaying that's like, what kind of
changed it for me?
Yeah, that flipped, yeahbecause I would only Google hang
(09:42):
out with those people you don'twant to do that.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
That's ridiculous.
Are you Green Bubble people?
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Not anymore.
I've cut those friendships.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
We can't talk to Green Bubble people.
No, I'm just kidding.
So let me ask what he'sbasically saying here.
Is he thinks that, because theInstagram, what are we really
trying to cancel ourselves,aren't we?
What he's basically saying ishe believes that there's
probably going to have to be achoice being made and he thinks
that YouTube is going to saywell, you know, we're seeing TV
grow, so shorts are going tohave to go away.
(10:11):
I think that that's a thinkingthat is not what YouTube is
considering, because they wantto be a platform for everybody.
They've said this before.
They want all the content rightthere.
We want you to be able toupload vertical, to upload
vertical, horizontal, sideways,diagonal, whatever's next right?
Uh, I don't think that they'rethat this means that, all of a
sudden, shorts are going to goaway.
I don't think shorts are goingaway for better or worse.
(10:32):
I think they're here I agreepeople's attention spans are
short.
Now they're much shorter.
Yeah, even mine, which is crazy.
I hate that, by the way wow,wow, like it's happening.
Like what am I even talkingabout right now?
I forgot what I was talkingabout.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Which is welcome to the party to join the rest of us
.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Where am I Okay?
Speaker 2 (10:52):
I think that what you're saying is true, though,
and it's just looking at it fromlike one single type of channel
, one single type of creatorwith one single type of audience
.
And maybe for Orlando, itdoesn't make sense to do shorts,
right, which is fine, right, ifthat's not something that is
going to work for the audienceand it doesn't work for the
channel.
Like there's no reason you haveto make shorts, but there's
(11:13):
going to be creators who aren'tprioritizing tv views, whose
niche and space doesn'tnecessarily allow for longer
content like that.
Like there's not every space youcan just push to hour-long
content right and it's just whenyou do that it's going to be
bad content yes so I would saywe're in a smaller percentage of
(11:33):
people that can successfullymake that transition to
prioritize tv, sure, and then wethink of the rest of the world.
They're still doing likeregular youtube I'm.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
I'm still caught back in the people watching shorts
on the television, that's Sure.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
And then we think of the rest of the world.
They're still doing likeregular YouTube.
I'm still caught back in thepeople watching shorts on the
television.
That's to me still.
This is where it's breaking mybrain and it's I think it's a
young.
I think it's a young thing.
Based off the information we'veheard, I think it's a young
thing.
So for Orlando's, what is it?
His?
65 plus 45 plus crowd TV shortsprobably not a thing.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
No.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
If you have a young audience, then maybe the shorts
doesn't matter.
Maybe they perfectly coincidetogether.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
Yeah, but I think one of the things we talked about
was like how do you shoot for atelevision right?
And it's one of the things thatone of the things we talked
about was the length of videoscan be longer, of course.
Shorts that's not the case.
The way you present needs to besomething that makes sense for
a television right.
I think all of these thingsstill apply, but not as much for
(12:36):
shorts.
I think you just do shorts theway they are, I guess, right.
Would you shoot them anydifferent?
Because you still only get amax, three minutes Max.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
That's actually really interesting.
I'd be curious to see thecorrelation between the length
of the shorts.
Are we talking like shortshorts or are we talking like
new long?
Speaker 1 (12:53):
shorts.
Are we talking Daisy Dukes, orare?
Speaker 2 (12:56):
we talking the jorts, that's what we got to get.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
The jorts versus Daisy Dukes.
Which person is?
Speaker 2 (12:59):
being watched on TV Right.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
The Daisy D watched on tv right the daisy dukes all
the time.
Uh, so we got.
We got daisy dukes, we gotjorts, we got mids.
I think we had, we have shortlongs, long longs.
The mids, the bermudas we'regonna get canceled for sure now
um.
So what were?
We talking about now we have asecret fashion podcast.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Um, yeah, so you worry about it or do you not
worry about it?
Speaker 1 (13:28):
This is always the big question.
Yeah, because there's a lot ofthings we tell you not to worry
about because you have nocontrol over them.
You do kind of have controlover this because it's your
content.
I feel like you just make goodcontent based on the format that
you want to make it in.
You could shoehorn somethinginto something else, but I feel
(13:49):
like it would be disingenuousand people will see that at that
point.
What's the point?
And you're probably notenjoying it either.
Right, so easy to burn out,quicker to burn out probably not
as good content.
Um, unless you have a teambehind you, you have a big team
and you're like oh, we gotta doall these things.
Okay, okay, fine, fair.
But if you're just a creatorstarting out like, just do your
now, right.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Do we think that this is the secret to growth on
YouTube?
Now I feel like this is a bigthing that was interpreted from
the past conversations that wehave Like.
Is this the new hack?
Speaker 1 (14:17):
To do television type content.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
Yeah, Is that how people are taking these
conversations and thinking likethis is the way I'm going to get
ahead.
I'm going to grow my channelfrom the start.
I'm going to be at theforefront of this trend.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
So, in fairness, what we're shooting right now is
basically for television.
Yeah, the way we're doing this,you know our other podcasts and
stuff.
You could watch them and it'dbe fine on television, but this
is definitely more for atelevision type crowd.
The way we're here.
We're both here.
We can say hi, we can, we canhigh five, like all the cool
things that we can't do normallyright.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
I was like what if we just like fake high fives like
we?
We're not actually here.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
We're green screen, we're not actually here.
Um then, yeah, of course, like,uh, I think we are doing the
thing that we've been talkingabout and we're trying to double
down more into that.
Um, but not every piece ofcontent.
Every niche needs that, do you?
Which ones are they?
And I just think, if you lookat who the trailblazers are in
(15:13):
your niche and you go, does thatmake sense?
Like food channels make a lotof sense.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Right, yeah, that does Make a lot of sense.
As a matter of fact, to be areally good food channel, you
almost have to look like afreaking television show now.
Have you seen?
Speaker 2 (15:27):
some of those big channels.
That's true.
They're really high quality.
The studios are crazy.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
And the kitchens are amazing.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Like it's ridiculous yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
Unless you went full left and were like I don't want
it to look professional, I wantit to look homemade, okay
because.
But then again it might not.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
That's an intentional approach though, where you're
trying to stand out and you'retrying to be like no, I'm just
cooking from, like my houseright, like this is just low
budget.
I'm just like cooking goodstuff but then will you really?
Speaker 1 (15:52):
so there's this whole thing, um and I think we talked
about it in a meeting, uh wherepeople are like fully produced
or more authentic, and I thinkthere's, I think, that line.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
The space in the middle of that is getting wider
and wider.
I think we're just going sofull send in, either direction
yeah, yeah, yeah, Like I justdon't see a middle ground,
because I feel like that middleground where you're doing, you
know, I would say not highlyproduced content, but highly
edited, Like so many jump cutsand punch-ins and things I'm
like, that to me is like pickyour side, You're not wrong,
(16:27):
choose your fighter.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
You're not wrong.
That's how I see, though, justas more of a viewer of YouTube,
and what my just viewerpreference has changed so for
orlando, I guess what we'resaying is I think your type of
content isn't necessarily thingsyou would be doing for shorts
anyway although you could and Ialso disagree that youtube will
be getting rid of shorts forthat reason.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
So I guess that's not when all the kids are watching
them on tv which is wild.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
These kids are crazy.
All right, let's get to thenext.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
We're gonna have a bunch of parents being like yeah
, no, no, it's true.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
I don't understand this.
It's kids nowadays.
All right, read this next one.
What do we got?
Speaker 2 (17:02):
Benjamin, oh, I love this.
What's the best way to networkwith YouTubers?
Okay, youtube community iseverything.
I love that we're focusing onthis.
A lot of them have theirDiscord DM closed so I can't DM
them there, and when I click onthe show email thing on their
channel, nothing shows up.
That's interesting.
How do you network?
(17:23):
I'm currently at 700subscribers, but is there a size
I'd be able to work with?
I guess my first thing rightfrom this is why Is he trying to
network with other creators?
Speaker 1 (17:35):
Because the funny thing is is my mind was like
going back to my experienceswhen I was a smaller creator and
how I managed to collab withlarge creators, but that is
actually a thing we should talkabout first.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
Yeah, I think this is the way.
So the first part of the emailmade me feel like he's trying to
form a community, get in touchwith like minded people and just
have.
I mean, YouTube is super lonely.
I don't feel like we have totell you like YouTube is the
loneliest job in the world.
I mean YouTube is super lonely.
I don't feel like we have totell you like YouTube is the
loneliest job in the world,that's true, and you try to talk
about some of these things withfriends, a partner, your
(18:05):
parents, and there's like Idon't know what you're saying.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
Right, right, right.
Tell me more about your oneattempt.
I don't know Exactly.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
So I think there's the desire to have people to
chat with We've seen this a lotin coaching and in the Discord
and just to have this communityof people.
But it's really special whenthat community of people are
creating the same space andthere's collaboration in the
sense where you're prioritizingdiscoverable video concepts
together and you're talkingabout your titles and thumbnails
together and what worked foryou and what didn't work for you
(18:39):
, and a true collaborativeeffort, and then we have
actually doing collabs.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
Which is an entirely different thing than what we're
just talking about.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
Yes, so here's the interesting thing about that.
So the reason that vidIQ evenhas a Discord is I hate to say
this because of me.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Oh Travis.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
And here's why I hate to say this, because of me, oh,
travis, and here's why.
So, when I was coming up, I hada little group of friends that
we had a little privatediscourse, like five or six of
us.
Jeff was one of the people inthere as well.
Jeff from El Jefe.
Review is also one of thecoaches.
There was about five or six ofus and as we would learn things,
we would share things.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
So when I came to vid iq, I thought that was a really
cool idea and I really wantedthat to be a thing.
So in 2019, we launched apublic one and then, later on,
launched the group coaching one,and now it's.
It's all this thing.
So now, when you go to ourdiscord, you now have a place on
the internet where you know forsure that it's not just like
new tubers or reddit orsomething like that, which can
be hit or miss.
(19:38):
You now have a place you can gowhere you can find people not
only that are creating just likeyou, or small creators just
like you, or even establishedcreators, but some people are
taking it very seriously.
They can really give you greatadvice and is, you know, part of
the vidIQ community.
So we know like, and Jen and Iare there and like we're all
there, we're all having a funtime, so this thing exists, that
(20:07):
you can go to anytime, and it'sfree.
Previous to all this, you had tofind your group, which was very
difficult which is why thingslike VidCon of the summer were
so cool because you go beingaround people that speak the
language, because inevitably, noone that you know understands
what the hell you're doing.
You mean, you're talking to acamera for what you?
You need to go get a job.
Huh, no, this is a job.
What are you talking about?
What's going on?
So I feel like having thatability to be with other
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creators can be greater than thesum of its parts.
Now, what this creator isasking for specifically is
larger creators, but I think itcomes back to why are you asking
for that?
Speaker 2 (20:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
Now it could be for a good reason.
Are you asking for that?
Yeah, now it could be for agood reason.
It could be like no, I actuallyjust want to be a bigger part
of the community and I know thiscreator just does content
that's similar to mine and Ireally just want to, you know,
vibe with them and stuff.
I can tell you how to do thatbecause I did it as a smaller
creator.
Um, but I want to assume Idon't want to assume anything,
but anyone's watching this justunderstand that you have to have
a value that you're bringing tothat larger creator, otherwise
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this is not going to work.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
Yes.
So everything I'm about to tellyou only works I mean this goes
for collaborations in general,whether it's with another
creator or if it's with a brand.
Yes, like you have to bring andpitch the value.
Yeah, like you're not, like,hey, let's work together.
And this million-plus channelis like why?
Speaker 1 (21:16):
Right, if they even answer you.
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
Right.
They look at their email andthey're like huh.
No.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
Yes, so I've collabed with some of the biggest
creators in my niche Millionsupon millions of subscribers and
all that sort of stuff.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
So what was step one though?
Speaker 1 (21:32):
So in my first year, when I didn't even have like
1,000 subscribers or 5,000subscribers, you know, first I
wanted to.
I was like how do I do this ina way that makes sense, because
I knew that I had an affinityfor certain creators that I
wanted to work with and stuff.
I'm like, how do I make it easyfor them?
So my first thing was okay, I'mgoing to reach out to this
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person and I'd like for them tobe a part of my video.
But I need to make it so easyfor them because I don't have a
lot of value to bring them.
In other words, my, I don'thave an audience that's going to
help.
You know, help them withanything.
So I just want to reach out andgo I love your stuff, which I
did.
It was all genuine stuff.
I would love if you could be apart of one of my videos.
Here's my channel and here'swhat I would like other person
(22:23):
to do, because people even askme this.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
They're like, oh, I'd love you to collab on my
channel.
I'm like sure, whatever, whatdo you want to do?
And they're like I don't knowwhat.
Do you think I'm like?
You asked me no, no, no, how I?
I don't want me to come up withthe idea.
You want me to come up with theidea.
What?
Speaker 1 (22:31):
home, so it was always very simple.
I was like I just need you todo this.
If you wouldn't mind doing this, you can even do it on your
phone.
You don't need to set up yourthing.
I always try to make it supereasy and it every single time
worked, that's amazing.
With some of the millions ofsubscribers.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
That's literally amazing.
What do you think it wasspecifically about, kind of your
pitch or your idea in generalthat could work for other
creators?
Speaker 1 (22:54):
It was relevant to something that either they were
already doing or were going todo, and it was easy.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
I think, like I couldn't think of two better
things that you would need.
I can't even think of anythingelse you would actually need.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
I mean, you could pay them, but I didn't have to do
that.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
Okay, which is understandable In a situation
like that.
You probably don't have thefunds and it's probably not a
good idea and a collab is like afun thing.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
I don't know any situation that I'm aware of
where it was a paid creator tocreator type of situation.
At the end of the day, we'reall here for like the same thing
, like we love YouTube.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
And if you have a good idea, it doesn't matter how
many subscribers you are,because now I want your idea.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
Yes, and that's the thing.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
Like I'm, probably not buying you.
I'm buying your idea and youcome with it.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
I'm shocked at some of the people I was able to get
to collab with.
Like now that I think back toit, I'm like how the hell did I
do that?
There were some creators thatdidn't collab with anyone else
and I somehow got them.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
You're an idea man.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
That's why I it was relevant.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
It felt right to them , it felt like you probably
catered that idea for them.
And it was easy because ifyou're reaching out to larger
creators, they're doing things alot different.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
Right.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
So easy is going to be the number one thing and have
a plan.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
So this specific creator also said well, their
DMs are closed and all thisother stuff that's going to make
it more difficult.
If they're on a social mediaplatform you interact with them
on and they've seen you around,then you're probably more likely
to get a response than if youjust randomly come out of
nowhere, especially if you don'thave their email address.
So definitely engage in theircommunity, not just for the, the
try to get the collab, but liketo be a genuine part of their
community.
If you can do that and it'sactually genuine you'd be
(24:33):
surprised what you can do.
But if you're, doing it forstrategic purposes.
I feel like if you don't comeabsolutely correct with
everything they need like Idon't want to take any of your
time.
Can you please record this?
It's for this video idea.
I'm going to put it out thisdate.
I would love to have you be apart of it.
That works a lot more than youmight think.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
That's pretty cool.
I like that advice.
As far as getting in touch, Icompletely agree, show up in the
comments.
And touch, I completely agree,show up in the comments and I
mean you can try other platforms.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
You can try other creators too.
Yeah, it doesn't have to be aspecific, so they have a
specific creator they like, butit can be anyone in that niche.
By the way, if you work withanother creator in the niche
that that big the one creatoryou really want to work with and
they've seen you work with theother person they're much more
likely to work with you it'sweird people amongst.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
People amongst niches are friends Like you might not
know their friends, oh, yes, butlike they're friends, and this
comes back to like the firstpart, which is like creator
community.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
And like, eventually, whether you're a small channel
trying to grow together oryou're even larger channel still
trying to grow together, butmore relate and kind of
strategize together, yeah.
Like you all know each other.
Plus, when you're just on theplatform, like you know who your
similar creators are.
Like you know who you supportor you know who you should
(25:46):
support just being a member of aspecific community yeah so I
mean funny have you ever seen acollab where you're like oh my
god, you're friends right,you're like wait a minute?
how do you know each other?
Like us I love when that breaksmy that's still to this day,
breaks my head when I watchyoutube and I'm just like see
(26:06):
two people in the same room andI'm like you know what I did.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
So here's an interesting thing I actually got
two large creators to collab.
I did like I was the the wholereason it happened okay and to
this day.
When I see one of them wear themerch of the other, it just
makes me smile.
I'm like that's amazing.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
That's another one, too Merch.
I feel like that sells outpeople who know each other too.
Like you see someone wearingthe merch and you're like not
only do you watch them, yousupport them.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
Support them.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, 100%.
And for a fact that they hadnever collabed before.
They never thought about it, um, and now they're like I, I love
that.
I love bringing large creatorstogether, but and then I made a
video of it behind the scenesstuff, so it was fun that's
amazing, fun stuff.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
I think the takeaway is like be a member of the
community yes show up in apositive way yes and do it
because it's coming from a goodplace.
Good things will come from thatyeah but I think, is you know,
maybe not just try to be goingafter the immediate reward, Not
just instant, like we're goingto collab, make an awesome video
(27:08):
.
I'm going to get like athousand subscribers from it.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Like no.
Show up in a genuine, authenticway and doors will open, I
agree.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
And if you're authentically watching this,
make sure you hit the subscribebutton.
If you're on YouTube, or ifyou're authentically watching
this, make sure you hit thesubscribe button.
If you're on YouTube or ifyou're listening to the audio
podcast and you love us thatmuch, you should just leave us a
five star review.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
Only five stars.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
What's the next one, jen?
I think this is an email.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
I think you're just putting these are very large
fonts at this point and I thinkyou just don't want to read them
.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
I don't want to anymore.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
I'm done with it.
Hey, vidiq team from Judah.
I have a very small channel 14subscribers.
Hey, you started your channel.
That's what we're counting as awin here.
I started about two months agoand slowly got to 14, but then
stopped and I've not goneanymore for the past three weeks
.
Is this normal?
Also, I hate candy corn.
Goodbye, judah, your questionis not warranted here anymore.
(27:58):
Bye, your question is notwarranted here anymore.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
Bye-bye, love it?
No, oh my gosh, so I guess Ihave to answer this end.
Yeah, I stopped talking anymorein the last three weeks.
It can be normal, depending onthe content you do.
I think also small creatorssometimes forget that it ebbs
and flows.
Sometimes your first subscribertakes forever.
Sometimes you get a bunch andthen all of a sudden it stops.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
Totally normal.
It's just part of the thingthat you don't see on YouTube,
because, for the most part, youwatch channels that are quote
popular.
That's how they came into yourpurview in the first place.
The home feed showed them toyou and those channels are doing
well, which is the whole reasonthey came to you.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
I like what you said there.
They came to you becausethey're doing well at the moment
.
That's a good one that's a gem.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
How smart I am.
I'm so smart, big brain momentthere.
Big brain, so smooth brain.
So I think I feel like it'simportant to remember that what
you're seeing is the tip of theiceberg.
I've talked about the iceberguh meme before, where you can
see all the stuff's underneaththe water.
You're just the tips.
So you're seeing all thesesuccessful channels going.
Oh, they're doing so well.
What you don't see is themillions upon millions of
channels that aren't doing great, that aren't killing it and
(29:06):
crushing it like Donald Trump.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
It's true, though, because they're not surfaced
either, because they're not,they're not doing great, right
you?
Speaker 1 (29:11):
just don't realize they exist, and you're one of
them.
Normal average channel yeah,yes, absolutely normal
experience yeah.
Does that mean that it's alwaysgoing to be that way?
No, if you continue at it, putout good content, you'd be
surprised.
Yeah, you'd be surprised, butthere are people who have
thousands of videos that are ata subscribe base that you would
think they they should be bigger, but there's reasons behind
(29:35):
that, typically, we, we, we evensee those from time to time.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
You see like an awesome video and you're just
like why aren't they bigger?
Right or maybe you're someonewho's left one of those comments
before.
That's like you deserve ahundred thousand subscribers
like what I can't wait to seewhen you finally take off I love
those comments uh, those arelike the sweetest comments ever
very sweet yeah, but it istotally normal and the crawl can
feel very slow in the beginning.
But you have nothing else tocompare it to and you probably
(30:04):
don't have someone that alsostarted to channel at the same
time to be like, yeah, no, weboth only have 14 subscribers,
it's normal like listen it comesdown to how many videos are you
uploading and how long you know.
It says you've stopped.
Um started two months ago.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
I don't know what the upload has been for yeah those
two months, but that's not badfor two months, sure, yeah.
How many videos like doesn'teven say so, yeah, yeah, we have
no idea like, and two months islike nothing.
You, baby, baby, nothing.
You're like the babiest ofbabies like so, so nothing.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
I'm excited for those pop-offs that are gonna come
because it's really exciting.
It's really fun even when youwake up one day and you got like
10 subscribers overnight.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
Well, we know that's going to happen because they
listen to the podcast.
We know it's going to happen100%.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
You just don't know when it's going to happen.
I mean, we don't know when it'sgoing to happen and it's like
the best feeling ever.
It's like, oh my God, what isgoing on?
And then you have no one totext about it.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
So you have to go on our Discord.
Yeah, go to our Discord andthere's a brag about it channel
in there.
You can literally leave yourbrag about moments.
Here's the other thing.
Sometimes people pop off andthey don't know what to do with
it.
You and I looked at a coupledifferent channels.
We haven't talked about this onthe podcast specifically, but
we looked at a couple with aspecific title and thumbnail
style.
One channel knew how to doubledown on it because the rest of
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the channel made sense.
And then there was anotherperson who literally had.
They weren't expecting itbecause what they did was they
took the idea from a video theysaw that popped off.
They did it.
It popped off, yes, as theyhoped it would, but had no idea
what to do with it after that.
And now their views are back.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
I think this is a very relevant conversation
because when I was coaching,this very specific video that
you're talking about was a veryhot take.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
Yes, for people to send me.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
Everyone was sending me this video and they were like
I want this to happen to me yes.
I want.
It was like, oh my gosh, it waslike 3 million views in like a.
It was ridiculous.
It was one of those momentsthat this doesn't happen.
This is so uncommon Right.
They were like I want that tobe me, I'm going to make the
same video, and I said, okay,well, here let me show you three
channels who did this andruined their channel.
(32:10):
Right and obviously we're notgoing to talk about those
channels, but you have to knowhow to do it right.
You do and you have to trendjack the right videos.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
The ones that are in the niche that you're in, at
least what you're trying toaccomplish.
Why would I, if I was a racingcar channel?
Why would I bake the hottestsandwich?
Now, I mean, why am I doing hotones?
Speaker 2 (32:28):
The hottest sandwich.
I like that.
It feels like you're gearing upfor our game.
You thinking of titles.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
I'm so hungry right now.
You have no idea Like I haven'teaten all day you were thinking
of titles.
I'm not even thinking aboutanything other than food.
Wait, do we have more emails,or was that the last one?
I think that's it.
Do we have one more, or is thatit?
Oh, we do have one more.
Let's do one more.
Oh, we have, sean.
Okay, we have a fun game thatwe're going to play after Sean's
email.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, go ahead,sean.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
There are so many others out there that have the
thou shalt do this, or else out.
Can we get a very strong Travis?
Speaker 1 (33:08):
Thou shalt not use thumbnails with red text.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
Okay, I love that and it comes across very ick.
Yes, sean, yes, I started mypodcast.
Ooh, barbells and Bourbon.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
That's a cool name.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
Subbed.
Yeah immediately Strengths andStories in January 2024.
I interview anyone and everyone, allowing them to tell their
life stories, shared experiencesand open their hearts to
sensitive topics.
Love it, this is very sweet.
My guests have includedbusiness owners, recovering
addicts, single mothers, models,musicians, athletes the list
(33:47):
goes on.
For this reason, every episodehas a different topic, making it
impossible to narrow down myniche right, I see where this is
going.
Yeah, you can see.
Yes, I do.
Um, each of my episodes gets afew hundred to about a thousand
views in a few month period.
I have 35 30 subscriberscurrently.
Um, as a fun tradition, eachshow, I arm wrestle each guest
and ask them a question whiledoing so.
(34:08):
A spin on hot ones, relevant.
Okay, you guys are synced up ina weird way and my guests
having to think under pressure.
With that said, my niche isliterally unbeatable Anyone.
No topic is off limits.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
Is this hurting my potential to grow my channel and
reach certain audiences?
So here's the thing.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
Here's the thing Ah, this is Hot Ones.
In and of itself is that samething, but the hook is that it's
Hot Ones, right it's?
Speaker 2 (34:38):
a celebrity.
Speaker 1 (34:39):
That is the thing.
The niche is kind of the food.
The celebrity brings in newpeople who maybe have never seen
the show before or if they have, they're interested in that
particular person.
But what people coming back forover and, over and over again
isn't necessarily than thatperson it's like the situation
right yeah you need some type ofhook.
Maybe you are the hook.
Maybe you're so good and sointeresting interviewing these
(35:00):
people and then arm wrestlingthem for some odd reason.
That that's the hook.
Is it going to slow your growth?
It might be harder to grow.
Yes, however, my expectation Iam starving right now, by the
way.
My expectation my stomach isgrowling.
It's terrible.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
Can you hear it?
Speaker 1 (35:17):
I'm glad.
Um, my expectation would bethat the people that do stick
for you, stick around, are goingto be a an incredible community
that you're going to be able toleverage in every single
episode, which is cool yeah,you're building a channel a
different way.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
Oftentimes I've had this conversation with creators
where they want to uploadsomething on their channel.
That makes absolutely no sense.
Sure, go ahead, nobody'sstopping you that's true there
are people who have channels forthat.
Exactly like how you'redescribing your podcast, it's a
creative, just experiment yeahyou want to talk about what you
(35:50):
want to talk about, who you wantto talk about and do what you
want to do.
And we're here on youtube forthat creativity too.
Every single channel doesn'thave to have like a really
defined target audience and aset growth strategy and having
you know your content buckets inline and maximizing
discoverability, like you cantotally just make whatever you
want.
And when you get views and youget subscribers, they're like
(36:14):
far, far exceed the other time,but they're truly there for what
you're doing.
And it's going to come slowerand it's going to take more time
, but there's no rule that saysyou have to maximize growth in
every single exactly youpossibly can, like you, just
chill and do creative stuffright, there's the two for one,
one for you, or two for them,one for you.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
Idea which is like you make two videos for the
audience and one for yourself.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
Keep you from burning out yeah, like there's, there's
no rules here.
If the goal, though, is to growthe channel faster, like travis
said, you gotta, you gotta havesomething there has to be some
reoccurring theme, a variablethat is just people know what,
what you're gonna do absolutely,and they have to know what
(37:01):
they're coming back for yeah, uhmaybe, maybe it is arm
wrestling segment, who knows?
Speaker 1 (37:05):
I feel like I need to arm wrestle you now, but I'm
not going to.
Speaker 2 (37:07):
I don't know where we would arm wrestle.
I have zero idea.
You're hungry and weak, thoughI am very weak right now.
Speaker 1 (37:13):
And you know I keep thinking about so when we came
in down the street from thisplace is a place called it's
like Burger and Seafood and we,about this walk and I'm like,
anytime you have two wildlydifferent foods, that restaurant
doesn't do either one of themvery well, like it's impossible
we're both amazing because, likeyou'll see, like a teriyaki
place with like steak and I'mlike no, I don't know, it's not
a seafood burger that's that's.
This is not the underwater with.
(37:35):
Spongebob Squarepants, salmoncakes or something you're just
trying to make me throw up hereand now, aren't you?
You just really want it tohappen here on camera.
Speaker 2 (37:44):
Like we've made crab cakes and we put them on burgers
.
Speaker 1 (37:47):
That is a Krabby Patty, that's Spongebob and
Wendy's Is that?
Speaker 2 (37:52):
actually a Krabby.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
Patty Kind of, but did you ever?
Speaker 2 (37:55):
have a Krabby Patty.
Wait, is there a defined recipefor a Krabby Patty?
There is.
Speaker 1 (37:59):
And here's the funny thing.
So Wendy's did a special acouple months back where they
were selling Krabby Patties.
All right, Now for those whodon't know, spongebob
SquarePants right.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
It's a great show and you're supposed to put it on in
a specific order.
Speaker 1 (38:16):
Oh, this is like a big match.
It's a real thing.
Yeah, and I guess they weren'tactually putting it in.
You hear my something?
Now?
I think they were actuallyputting it in the wrong order
and people, some people weregetting livid about this because
you know, hardcore Spongebob,squarepants people, I will be
honest, and I ate it, and it wasjust a burger, but for some
reason I really liked it.
I kept buying, I couldn't stopbuying.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
If they had it in the proper order, it would probably
taste better.
Speaker 1 (38:36):
Maybe here's the thing I don't normally eat raw
onions on burgers.
Speaker 2 (38:40):
Okay, but I liked it.
Burgers okay, but I I likepatty.
The crappy patty was different.
Do you know how the order waswrong?
Speaker 1 (38:45):
I'm not that much of a nerd, but it was.
It was different.
I remember reading about it.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
I could tell you the order of a big mac, because I
have a christmas ornament bro, Ilove things, do it do you want
me to sing the song, please.
Speaker 1 (38:58):
Big mac filet fish quarter better.
Speaker 2 (38:59):
No to all the patty special sauce, lettuce cheese,
pickles, onions on a sesame seedbun yes.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
You deserve a break today at McDonald's.
Let's go.
Speaker 1 (39:07):
What is going on?
Speaker 2 (39:08):
You pulled the-.
Speaker 1 (39:09):
Does that happen when you pull the thing you pulled?
Speaker 2 (39:10):
the string on the Big Mac.
It's literally a Christmasornament that goes on my family
tree to this day, but why?
I have no idea.
Speaker 1 (39:17):
Where did they get it from?
I literally couldn't tell you.
This has been like in my familyforever and everybody knows the
words like never forget.
Okay, so you may not rememberthis because you maybe I hope
you were born by things.
It makes you feel real old, butmany a year ago mcdonald's had
a oh, now I'm really gonna domyself here.
Speaker 2 (39:36):
I just realized how are you aging yourself?
Speaker 1 (39:37):
I'm in the middle of saying this and I'm like holy
crap, when you would buy asandwich, they were giving away
like a million dollars and theway that they were, you would
find out if they were, you'regoing to win.
It is.
There was this song and it wentthrough the entire mcdonald's
menu.
If the song completed, that wasthe thing.
That's how you knew you won.
The song was a record, but itwasn't a real record.
(39:58):
It was like on a, like aplastic thing that they gave you
with your meal and you had toput it on a record player and
listen to it.
And if they sang the song allthe way through, you won like a
million dollars, but always itwould end like like they get
halfway through how muchmcdonald's I would buy I
literally I went hard inmonopoly when that was oh, my
(40:19):
god, I'm competitive, though,like I can't like monopoly ruins
lives, we know this.
Speaker 2 (40:25):
It ruins families I'm very competitive for monopoly
in general like monopoly isterrible and you want to take
his mcdonald's like I willdestroy monopoly is a hate crime
I win monopoly, so what's thereto be mad about?
Speaker 1 (40:38):
I, I would definitely would never be friends.
Speaker 2 (40:40):
I think we would stop being friends, it's funny
because I can't play any othergame, though like any other game
, I'm your worst nightmareperson.
We're like janet, your turn.
Oh my god, where's janet's herturn?
Like I'm that person, but likemonopoly you're on it, I'm
locked in well.
Speaker 1 (40:54):
Speaking of which, why don't we play a quick game?
Speaker 2 (40:56):
we have a couple minutes, let's do a couple
rounds all right do?
Speaker 1 (40:58):
we want the bell yes, just because randomly here give
me the bell, let me be incharge of the bell, you be the
bell.
Because you know that's goingto go well.
Speaker 2 (41:05):
Well, I feel like I need to hit the bell, so here we
have random words from a cardgame.
Speaker 1 (41:11):
And where did the card game come from?
Jen, I borrowed it.
You borrowed it from where?
Speaker 2 (41:15):
I borrowed it from my hotel room, Okay all right,
just checking.
I will return.
Speaker 1 (41:19):
Which is going to be an odd situation, because you
can't get back in your room.
You've already checked out.
Speaker 2 (41:22):
I'm going to just bring it to the front desk and
be like, oh my gosh, I foundthis outside.
Hey, that's fair, does?
Speaker 1 (41:29):
anyone want it?
Does anyone want it?
Speaker 2 (41:30):
Yes, okay, so these are just random words and we're
going to see who can come upwith the better YouTube title
using the random drawn word.
Speaker 1 (41:42):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (41:43):
Do you want to?
Speaker 1 (41:44):
pick first what are you?
A magician?
Now I am.
Speaker 2 (41:46):
I'm really allowing you to.
So are we going to ding when wehave?
Speaker 1 (41:50):
it.
This is so fun.
Speaker 2 (41:51):
Or who's the better.
Well, you already cheated, Ialready looked at it.
So how are we doing this?
You already cheated.
Speaker 1 (41:56):
Well, take a look at it.
Look at the word.
I think it's funny, because weburrito okay, we'll do a test
one burrito.
Speaker 2 (42:03):
So what would your title be?
Speaker 1 (42:07):
uh, six amazing ways to cook a burrito in under five
minutes okay all right, whatwould yours be?
Speaker 2 (42:14):
I mean a burrito two times the size of chipotle.
Speaker 1 (42:16):
Here's how you might have won that one.
Okay, okay, I'll give you thatpoint.
All right, what's the next?
You were crushing them.
Speaker 2 (42:24):
before in the test I was, but I'm so hungry I can
barely think straight.
Speaker 1 (42:27):
But okay, all right, diaper, diaper.
Okay, go first, go first.
You got to think.
You don't have enough time tothink.
Speaker 2 (42:36):
I stopped using these diapers for this reason
impossible to beat.
Speaker 1 (42:47):
That I can't.
There's no way I can beat that.
You stopped using these diapersfor this reason, I don't know.
I was wearing the diapers whenI stopped using them.
I can't beat.
I literally cannot beat thatand I think I'm pretty okay.
I'm funny.
I cannot beat that how I don'tknow the hard thing about this.
Speaker 2 (43:00):
like you have to come up with the title so fast, damn
.
Speaker 1 (43:04):
Hair.
Speaker 2 (43:05):
Hair.
Speaker 1 (43:07):
This is how I lost all my hair.
I mean, that's easy, right,you're not beating that that's
an old man.
All right, that's an easy one.
Next one that's an old man.
You're delirious.
Speaker 2 (43:19):
Oh my gosh Chicken Chicken.
Speaker 1 (43:23):
How this chicken lost its hair.
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2 (43:24):
Chicken, chicken.
How this chicken?
Speaker 1 (43:25):
lost its hair.
Oh, okay.
Speaker 2 (43:27):
That's a callback.
Have you seen those hairychickens?
No, that's a story structureand a half though those are some
hairy chickens.
Speaker 1 (43:35):
You've seen those exotic chickens with like all
the that's fur no, Not fur it'sstill feathers, but it looks
like hair.
Speaker 2 (43:40):
I was going to say raising chickens in my backyard
for the first time.
Speaker 1 (43:43):
But don't you already do you, really do it?
Speaker 2 (43:45):
you don't have I lived on a farm does that count,
my backyard?
Speaker 1 (43:49):
why chicken tastes great.
All right, you want that one.
Okay, real quick.
Speaker 2 (43:52):
Let's see this I feel like I had a little extra time
to think about it picnic.
Speaker 1 (43:57):
I wish I was on a picnic because I'm hungry.
I'm really so freaking hungry.
I want a picnic basket rightnow.
I want, want a picnic.
This is a big waste of time,but I love it, do it again.
Speaker 2 (44:06):
Do another one.
Five weird things I put in mypicnic basket.
Speaker 1 (44:09):
Why, Jen?
Why are you doing this toyourself?
Speaker 2 (44:11):
I'm getting all the clicks today.
Speaker 1 (44:15):
This podcast is a dumpster fire.
We got a dumpster Dumpster fire.
Speaker 2 (44:20):
One more.
Speaker 1 (44:20):
That's amazing, okay, I think I obviously won that
one.
All right, last Jeans, that'salmost.
Speaker 2 (44:29):
Let's do another one, that's a tough one because I'm
like the only thing I can thinkof is like five jeans you should
buy.
Speaker 1 (44:34):
No, I feel like I'll end up in HR if I try to come up
with something so all right,here we go.
Last one, leprechaun.
Speaker 2 (44:40):
Leprechaun.
That time I found a leprechaununder the bridge.
Speaker 1 (44:46):
That time.
It was only the one time,though.
Right, what's your leprechauntitle?
It would be.
Why are they always after me?
Lucky charms, that's good.
The leprechaun story.
Speaker 2 (44:58):
There's leprechaun on the thumbnail, we'll give you
that.
Speaker 1 (45:00):
Oh, my God.
Speaker 2 (45:04):
I'll have to put one in.
Oh, that's funny.
Okay, look.
Speaker 1 (45:05):
Okay, this has been this has been an episode, it's
been a thing and, uh, I can'tthank you enough for coming all
the way up to seattle to comesee me again and have a great
episode we had another episodebefore this, so good we're gonna
do it again.
Try to do a lot more of thesemany more to come and if you
want to interact with us, uh,get on discord, because we're
recording one time a monththrough Discord, talking to
people just like you.
Speaker 2 (45:26):
You got to stay in the know also.
Speaker 1 (45:27):
Yeah, stay in the know.
Speaker 2 (45:29):
The know is no, just say no.
Speaker 1 (45:33):
Just say no to chicken.
No means no.
Speaker 2 (45:36):
Let's go get Travis some food and peeps, all right.
Speaker 1 (45:38):
Anyway, thank you for joining us.
Of course, leave us five stars.
If you're on the Apple Podcast,hit that subscribe button.
Welcome back to the only podcast that's now 70% less
peeps.
Thank the Lord for that.
I'm Travis and I'm here withJen again.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Does that mean we have 30% peeps in this episode?
This is the 30% peeps.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
If you missed the last episode, shame on you.
First of all, you need to goback and watch that.
Yes, less peeps this timethrough.
I'm Travis.
I'm here with Jen.
If you've never watched usbefore, you're welcome.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Now's the time to start.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
This is definitely the time to start.
We're here to help you growyour YouTube channels and answer
your questions and have asecret candy podcast somewhere
in between.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Although I have something secret that's not
candy, but it is something thatwe've talked about, but it's not
candy for the end of this one.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
We have talked about it.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
We have talked about it.
Oh okay, I thought maybe youjust tried to sneak some in.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
We've actually gotten a couple comments about it, but
it's not candy, so I'll givethat spoiler, but I'm not giving
any other spoilers.
I also want to say that Inoticed when we came up that in
the bag you had, like, somethings.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
I thought I was getting my water.
Travis was snooping.
There was syrup.
What was that about?
Snooping in my bag is what I'mhearing.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
I think we'll get back to that later.
I think I'm a little worried,shame.
Anyway, we have a lot to talkabout today and one of the
things I do want to talk aboutis our Discord.
And the reason I want to dothat is because recently but I
do kind of merge Discords and weactually recorded an episode
which by the time you watch thisyou would have already seen,
where we got to talk to you, thelisteners and film the.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
It was so fun.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
It was so fun and we're going to do it again, and
again, and again and again.
Yeah, we are.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Because it was great to actually talk.
The emails and the texts arereally fun, but to have a
conversation, that was a treat.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
That was so much fun and you can join it for free.
It's vidIQcom slash Discord andcome check us out.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Now, and if you're a member of one-on-one coaching,
you have access to the specialarea.
Yeah, yes, there is a specialarea.
There is a special area, thereis it's locked off unless you're
in booster.
Well, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
So if you're already a member, you have even more
than you knew but there's asection just for podcast
listeners which is free, so youcan go to that and watch that
for free.
And uh, someone was in there.
Um, j Jerry was in theretalking about his channel and I
answered him and he answered.
Since we've been recording, Ikind of just wanted to answer
(02:12):
here.
I know it's probably like aweek later, I'm answering one of
the podcasts a week later.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
All right, well, the Discord.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
Listen, it's all about the thought.
It's a thought that counts.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
It's a community in the Discord.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
That it's all about the thought.
It's a thought, it's acommunity in the discord.
That's the tree.
Yes, so Jerry talks about howyou know.
He said I know the boost,talked about it before, but I
have a and it was a question onpodcast about sponsorship and
secondary revenue.
I know sponsors can help orPatreon or something like that,
but he feels certain niches,let's say cooking, are a bit
harder for a sponsor.
It's not like pots and pan.
Pots and pan brands wouldsponsor and I'm like why
(02:45):
wouldn't?
they why they absolutelyliterally every single one, like
joshua weisman's video is likesponsored by yeah cookware so I
kind of said that and I talkedabout affiliate sales would be
good too.
And he says um, because the wayI think of it, you just go to
the market and buy them.
I might know one brand, theymight sell things.
That's kind of the reason ofwondering, like, do you know,
for example, a potter brand ordo you walk into a random store
(03:09):
and buy one?
So, in other words, if you,when you go in the store, are
you thinking of this brand?
Well, if I saw gordon ramseyuse it, heck yeah yeah um, like
100, like you make laundrycontent.
I think the chances are small.
You would get a brand sponsorfrom bosher or whirlpool, for
example, which are pretty big,not saying it's impossible, but
very unlikely.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
So I've been sponsored by laundry detergent
and I'm just a regular personeverybody does laundry, that's
what you're not thinking abouteverybody does laundry.
It's not as everybody cooksit's so overly.
It's not as complicated aspeople think it is yeah, I think
that he was thinking it reallyto the next level and like
that's the only type of sponsorsyou can have on your channel,
like no, I'm sure you've watchedchannels that, even if you say
(03:50):
you're like an outdoor, you'rean off-grid channel, you can
still have a sponsor.
That's cookware like you couldhave cast iron cookware like you
can.
That can still be relevant inyour life.
It's relevant to your audience.
You still have that laundrysponsor because people still
gotta to wash their clothes.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
You better wash your clothes.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
It's about you standing behind a product and
delivering it in a trusting wayto your audience if you
recommend it.
Yeah, that's the way it'ssupposed to be done.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
That's the way it is.
You'd be surprised.
You'd be surprised.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
How many creators have AG1 sponsors?
Speaker 1 (04:20):
and it's like they're not nutritionists, they're not
health gurus, bro, that would bethe logic well, it's like a
little bit like saying uh, allthose gurus that uh like
marriage counselors that havenever been married, or, you know
, kids experts that don't havekids they're selling divorce
attorneys.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
What are they selling I?
Speaker 1 (04:40):
have zero idea.
That's actually not a bad idea.
I would love to be sponsored bya divorce attorney, because
I'll tell you right now I canget you divorced for sure All
right.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Just click the link for Johnson Johnson Click the
link.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
If your partner is terrible and you can't wait to
get out of the house and youwant to just listen to us, click
the link in the descriptionbelow to 1-800-DIVORCE-HER-NOW.
Okay, Anyway if you'relistening to this podcast,
you're trying to grow yourYouTube channel.
I don't know what you justheard, but let's just assume
that you are trying to grow yourchannel.
Yeah, you can send us an emailat theboostvidIQcom.
Or if you're listening to theaudio podcast, of course you can
(05:14):
click the link for the textmessage.
But of course if you'relistening to the audio podcast,
watch this episode you probablywant to go check it out we're
literally here live, so jen nowis going to read all of the
emails.
I know people love when jenreads the emails I am going to
read.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
So this one is, let me just give a little.
So this one's from orlando andhe says a couple of days ago I
found something interestingwhile exploring the internet, so
did I that's, that's a solidhook.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Not gonna lie.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
According to YouTube CEO, YouTube is not just a video
platform, it's a new television.
So this is what we've beenchatting about.
This was a really big, reallyhot topic from when we had our
episode with Benji.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
And it carried over into Discord and it's still so
relevant now.
So, orlinda, we're here forthis.
Uh, this melds perfectly withmy channel statistics incredible
.
I cater to the 45 plus crowd,which I don't think that there
is a tv watching demographic.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
To my knowledge, I don't.
I haven't correlated the two,but I think he's just saying
this is what his his avatar is,his viewer avatar is.
I'm just I don't know if thereis.
To my knowledge, I don't Ihaven't correlated the two, but
I think he's just saying this iswhat his his avatar is, his his
viewer avatar is.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
I am just, I don't know if there is.
To my knowledge, I don't thinkwe have like.
Oh, it's the, you know, gen zyeah, that's, I don't think that
we have.
At least I don't know thatinformation, yeah, yet um.
So this is his demographic 45plus crowd, 60.4 percent.
Uh, watch on tv, that's a lotthat's amazing 70.7 percent of
(06:48):
which are male and watch fromthe united states cool.
This is, by the way, is exactlywho I set out to attract which
is perfect.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
You're a genius amazing.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
However, all this got me thinking being the new
television and going after theshorts market are two things
that don't meld very well.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
I agree, this is interesting.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Most tvs are 16 by 9 landscape and shorts are 9 by 16
portrait.
What's more, shorts lookterrible on widescreen they do
wait.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Have you watched?
Speaker 2 (07:17):
yes, and I immediately stopped okay, I've
had shorts that do play on tv,because they will play next.
Of course, I have somethingelse we have to call out too.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Uh-oh.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Finally, shorts are well short and the TV crowd
favors long content.
This is an interesting part,because you remember in the
meeting maybe it was just inSlack, but I think it was sorry,
I'm going to call you out Dansaid that he watches shorts on
his TV.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Well, he's a weirdo.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
That's not nice.
Dan's weird he watches shortson tv.
But I reached out to a creatorwhen I was still doing coaching
who was had a lot of shortstraffic and they also had a very
high percentage of tv trafficfor their shorts.
They have a younger demographicand we had people that who
commented that it was their kidswatch shorts only on TV.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
Interesting.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
And I remember we laughed about it because we were
like that's psychotic, that'sliterally psychotic.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
So there are some TVs that will rotate.
I don't know if you knew this.
I've never.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
I think you made that up, super dumb.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
No, literally true, actually true.
Alright, let's try.
Yeah, can you do it?
No, I don't think that's goingto work.
I think it's silly.
I think these people aresociopaths, but I can be wrong.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
They're ready for the future.
They were ready for YouTube torelease shorts on.
Tv.
This is wild.
I, this is wild, but I think soI see where this is going, but
I think there's a lot of thingsto counter this argument so
pretty much it says.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
if YouTube is going after living room views, are we
losing interest in the shortsworld?
So yeah, so essentially, are wehaving to choose between shorts
and long form TV viewing versusshorts?
And I think later in themessage he said something about
Google is very fast to closethings down.
There's an entire website Idon't know if you know this is
dedicated to all the differentprograms google has shut down.
I think it's called the googlegraveyard or something like that
(09:12):
.
Adorable, um, because they theyshut a lot of programs down.
They'll bring them up and thenthey shut them down if they
don't work, goodbye.
Um.
So I mean, do you remembergoogle hangouts?
Speaker 2 (09:21):
yeah, are those not alive anymore?
Oh, they haven't been for avery long time really I used to
google hangout all the time,yeah, of course you haven't in a
long time, because it doesn'texist anymore well, I guess so
among other things well then,you could.
Well, the thing was that youcould facetime with like non yes
iphone users which you stillcan.
Now, I don't know well, I'msaying that's like, what kind of
changed it for me?
Yeah, that flipped, yeahbecause I would only Google hang
(09:42):
out with those people you don'twant to do that.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
That's ridiculous.
Are you Green Bubble people?
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Not anymore.
I've cut those friendships.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
We can't talk to Green Bubble people.
No, I'm just kidding.
So let me ask what he'sbasically saying here.
Is he thinks that, because theInstagram, what are we really
trying to cancel ourselves,aren't we?
What he's basically saying ishe believes that there's
probably going to have to be achoice being made and he thinks
that YouTube is going to saywell, you know, we're seeing TV
grow, so shorts are going tohave to go away.
(10:11):
I think that that's a thinkingthat is not what YouTube is
considering, because they wantto be a platform for everybody.
They've said this before.
They want all the content rightthere.
We want you to be able toupload vertical, to upload
vertical, horizontal, sideways,diagonal, whatever's next right?
Uh, I don't think that they'rethat this means that, all of a
sudden, shorts are going to goaway.
I don't think shorts are goingaway for better or worse.
(10:32):
I think they're here I agreepeople's attention spans are
short.
Now they're much shorter.
Yeah, even mine, which is crazy.
I hate that, by the way wow,wow, like it's happening.
Like what am I even talkingabout right now?
I forgot what I was talkingabout.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Which is welcome to the party to join the rest of us
.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Where am I Okay?
Speaker 2 (10:52):
I think that what you're saying is true, though,
and it's just looking at it fromlike one single type of channel
, one single type of creatorwith one single type of audience
.
And maybe for Orlando, itdoesn't make sense to do shorts,
right, which is fine, right, ifthat's not something that is
going to work for the audienceand it doesn't work for the
channel.
Like there's no reason you haveto make shorts, but there's
(11:13):
going to be creators who aren'tprioritizing tv views, whose
niche and space doesn'tnecessarily allow for longer
content like that.
Like there's not every space youcan just push to hour-long
content right and it's just whenyou do that it's going to be
bad content yes so I would saywe're in a smaller percentage of
(11:33):
people that can successfullymake that transition to
prioritize tv, sure, and then wethink of the rest of the world.
They're still doing likeregular youtube I'm.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
I'm still caught back in the people watching shorts
on the television, that's Sure.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
And then we think of the rest of the world.
They're still doing likeregular YouTube.
I'm still caught back in thepeople watching shorts on the
television.
That's to me still.
This is where it's breaking mybrain and it's I think it's a
young.
I think it's a young thing.
Based off the information we'veheard, I think it's a young
thing.
So for Orlando's, what is it?
His?
65 plus 45 plus crowd TV shortsprobably not a thing.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
No.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
If you have a young audience, then maybe the shorts
doesn't matter.
Maybe they perfectly coincidetogether.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
Yeah, but I think one of the things we talked about
was like how do you shoot for atelevision right?
And it's one of the things thatone of the things we talked
about was the length of videoscan be longer, of course.
Shorts that's not the case.
The way you present needs to besomething that makes sense for
a television right.
I think all of these thingsstill apply, but not as much for
(12:36):
shorts.
I think you just do shorts theway they are, I guess, right.
Would you shoot them anydifferent?
Because you still only get amax, three minutes Max.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
That's actually really interesting.
I'd be curious to see thecorrelation between the length
of the shorts.
Are we talking like shortshorts or are we talking like
new long?
Speaker 1 (12:53):
shorts.
Are we talking Daisy Dukes, orare?
Speaker 2 (12:56):
we talking the jorts, that's what we got to get.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
The jorts versus Daisy Dukes.
Which person is?
Speaker 2 (12:59):
being watched on TV Right.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
The Daisy D watched on tv right the daisy dukes all
the time.
Uh, so we got.
We got daisy dukes, we gotjorts, we got mids.
I think we had, we have shortlongs, long longs.
The mids, the bermudas we'regonna get canceled for sure now
um.
So what were?
We talking about now we have asecret fashion podcast.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Um, yeah, so you worry about it or do you not
worry about it?
Speaker 1 (13:28):
This is always the big question.
Yeah, because there's a lot ofthings we tell you not to worry
about because you have nocontrol over them.
You do kind of have controlover this because it's your
content.
I feel like you just make goodcontent based on the format that
you want to make it in.
You could shoehorn somethinginto something else, but I feel
(13:49):
like it would be disingenuousand people will see that at that
point.
What's the point?
And you're probably notenjoying it either.
Right, so easy to burn out,quicker to burn out probably not
as good content.
Um, unless you have a teambehind you, you have a big team
and you're like oh, we gotta doall these things.
Okay, okay, fine, fair.
But if you're just a creatorstarting out like, just do your
now, right.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Do we think that this is the secret to growth on
YouTube?
Now I feel like this is a bigthing that was interpreted from
the past conversations that wehave Like.
Is this the new hack?
Speaker 1 (14:17):
To do television type content.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
Yeah, Is that how people are taking these
conversations and thinking likethis is the way I'm going to get
ahead.
I'm going to grow my channelfrom the start.
I'm going to be at theforefront of this trend.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
So, in fairness, what we're shooting right now is
basically for television.
Yeah, the way we're doing this,you know our other podcasts and
stuff.
You could watch them and it'dbe fine on television, but this
is definitely more for atelevision type crowd.
The way we're here.
We're both here.
We can say hi, we can, we canhigh five, like all the cool
things that we can't do normallyright.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
I was like what if we just like fake high fives like
we?
We're not actually here.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
We're green screen, we're not actually here.
Um then, yeah, of course, like,uh, I think we are doing the
thing that we've been talkingabout and we're trying to double
down more into that.
Um, but not every piece ofcontent.
Every niche needs that, do you?
Which ones are they?
And I just think, if you lookat who the trailblazers are in
(15:13):
your niche and you go, does thatmake sense?
Like food channels make a lotof sense.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Right, yeah, that does Make a lot of sense.
As a matter of fact, to be areally good food channel, you
almost have to look like afreaking television show now.
Have you seen?
Speaker 2 (15:27):
some of those big channels.
That's true.
They're really high quality.
The studios are crazy.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
And the kitchens are amazing.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Like it's ridiculous yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
Unless you went full left and were like I don't want
it to look professional, I wantit to look homemade, okay
because.
But then again it might not.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
That's an intentional approach though, where you're
trying to stand out and you'retrying to be like no, I'm just
cooking from, like my houseright, like this is just low
budget.
I'm just like cooking goodstuff but then will you really?
Speaker 1 (15:52):
so there's this whole thing, um and I think we talked
about it in a meeting, uh wherepeople are like fully produced
or more authentic, and I thinkthere's, I think, that line.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
The space in the middle of that is getting wider
and wider.
I think we're just going sofull send in, either direction
yeah, yeah, yeah, Like I justdon't see a middle ground,
because I feel like that middleground where you're doing, you
know, I would say not highlyproduced content, but highly
edited, Like so many jump cutsand punch-ins and things I'm
like, that to me is like pickyour side, You're not wrong,
(16:27):
choose your fighter.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
You're not wrong.
That's how I see, though, justas more of a viewer of YouTube,
and what my just viewerpreference has changed so for
orlando, I guess what we'resaying is I think your type of
content isn't necessarily thingsyou would be doing for shorts
anyway although you could and Ialso disagree that youtube will
be getting rid of shorts forthat reason.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
So I guess that's not when all the kids are watching
them on tv which is wild.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
These kids are crazy.
All right, let's get to thenext.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
We're gonna have a bunch of parents being like yeah
, no, no, it's true.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
I don't understand this.
It's kids nowadays.
All right, read this next one.
What do we got?
Speaker 2 (17:02):
Benjamin, oh, I love this.
What's the best way to networkwith YouTubers?
Okay, youtube community iseverything.
I love that we're focusing onthis.
A lot of them have theirDiscord DM closed so I can't DM
them there, and when I click onthe show email thing on their
channel, nothing shows up.
That's interesting.
How do you network?
(17:23):
I'm currently at 700subscribers, but is there a size
I'd be able to work with?
I guess my first thing rightfrom this is why Is he trying to
network with other creators?
Speaker 1 (17:35):
Because the funny thing is is my mind was like
going back to my experienceswhen I was a smaller creator and
how I managed to collab withlarge creators, but that is
actually a thing we should talkabout first.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
Yeah, I think this is the way.
So the first part of the emailmade me feel like he's trying to
form a community, get in touchwith like minded people and just
have.
I mean, YouTube is super lonely.
I don't feel like we have totell you like YouTube is the
loneliest job in the world.
I mean YouTube is super lonely.
I don't feel like we have totell you like YouTube is the
loneliest job in the world,that's true, and you try to talk
about some of these things withfriends, a partner, your
(18:05):
parents, and there's like Idon't know what you're saying.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
Right, right, right.
Tell me more about your oneattempt.
I don't know Exactly.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
So I think there's the desire to have people to
chat with We've seen this a lotin coaching and in the Discord
and just to have this communityof people.
But it's really special whenthat community of people are
creating the same space andthere's collaboration in the
sense where you're prioritizingdiscoverable video concepts
together and you're talkingabout your titles and thumbnails
together and what worked foryou and what didn't work for you
(18:39):
, and a true collaborativeeffort, and then we have
actually doing collabs.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
Which is an entirely different thing than what we're
just talking about.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
Yes, so here's the interesting thing about that.
So the reason that vidIQ evenhas a Discord is I hate to say
this because of me.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Oh Travis.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
And here's why I hate to say this, because of me, oh,
travis, and here's why.
So, when I was coming up, I hada little group of friends that
we had a little privatediscourse, like five or six of
us.
Jeff was one of the people inthere as well.
Jeff from El Jefe.
Review is also one of thecoaches.
There was about five or six ofus and as we would learn things,
we would share things.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
So when I came to vid iq, I thought that was a really
cool idea and I really wantedthat to be a thing.
So in 2019, we launched apublic one and then, later on,
launched the group coaching one,and now it's.
It's all this thing.
So now, when you go to ourdiscord, you now have a place on
the internet where you know forsure that it's not just like
new tubers or reddit orsomething like that, which can
be hit or miss.
(19:38):
You now have a place you can gowhere you can find people not
only that are creating just likeyou, or small creators just
like you, or even establishedcreators, but some people are
taking it very seriously.
They can really give you greatadvice and is, you know, part of
the vidIQ community.
So we know like, and Jen and Iare there and like we're all
there, we're all having a funtime, so this thing exists, that
(20:07):
you can go to anytime, and it'sfree.
Previous to all this, you had tofind your group, which was very
difficult which is why thingslike VidCon of the summer were
so cool because you go beingaround people that speak the
language, because inevitably, noone that you know understands
what the hell you're doing.
You mean, you're talking to acamera for what you?
You need to go get a job.
Huh, no, this is a job.
What are you talking about?
What's going on?
So I feel like having thatability to be with other
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creators can be greater than thesum of its parts.
Now, what this creator isasking for specifically is
larger creators, but I think itcomes back to why are you asking
for that?
Speaker 2 (20:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
Now it could be for a good reason.
Are you asking for that?
Yeah, now it could be for agood reason.
It could be like no, I actuallyjust want to be a bigger part
of the community and I know thiscreator just does content
that's similar to mine and Ireally just want to, you know,
vibe with them and stuff.
I can tell you how to do thatbecause I did it as a smaller
creator.
Um, but I want to assume Idon't want to assume anything,
but anyone's watching this justunderstand that you have to have
a value that you're bringing tothat larger creator, otherwise
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this is not going to work.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
Yes.
So everything I'm about to tellyou only works I mean this goes
for collaborations in general,whether it's with another
creator or if it's with a brand.
Yes, like you have to bring andpitch the value.
Yeah, like you're not, like,hey, let's work together.
And this million-plus channelis like why?
Speaker 1 (21:16):
Right, if they even answer you.
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
Right.
They look at their email andthey're like huh.
No.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
Yes, so I've collabed with some of the biggest
creators in my niche Millionsupon millions of subscribers and
all that sort of stuff.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
So what was step one though?
Speaker 1 (21:32):
So in my first year, when I didn't even have like
1,000 subscribers or 5,000subscribers, you know, first I
wanted to.
I was like how do I do this ina way that makes sense, because
I knew that I had an affinityfor certain creators that I
wanted to work with and stuff.
I'm like, how do I make it easyfor them?
So my first thing was okay, I'mgoing to reach out to this
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person and I'd like for them tobe a part of my video.
But I need to make it so easyfor them because I don't have a
lot of value to bring them.
In other words, my, I don'thave an audience that's going to
help.
You know, help them withanything.
So I just want to reach out andgo I love your stuff, which I
did.
It was all genuine stuff.
I would love if you could be apart of one of my videos.
Here's my channel and here'swhat I would like other person
(22:23):
to do, because people even askme this.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
They're like, oh, I'd love you to collab on my
channel.
I'm like sure, whatever, whatdo you want to do?
And they're like I don't knowwhat.
Do you think I'm like?
You asked me no, no, no, how I?
I don't want me to come up withthe idea.
You want me to come up with theidea.
What?
Speaker 1 (22:31):
home, so it was always very simple.
I was like I just need you todo this.
If you wouldn't mind doing this, you can even do it on your
phone.
You don't need to set up yourthing.
I always try to make it supereasy and it every single time
worked, that's amazing.
With some of the millions ofsubscribers.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
That's literally amazing.
What do you think it wasspecifically about, kind of your
pitch or your idea in generalthat could work for other
creators?
Speaker 1 (22:54):
It was relevant to something that either they were
already doing or were going todo, and it was easy.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
I think, like I couldn't think of two better
things that you would need.
I can't even think of anythingelse you would actually need.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
I mean, you could pay them, but I didn't have to do
that.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
Okay, which is understandable In a situation
like that.
You probably don't have thefunds and it's probably not a
good idea and a collab is like afun thing.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
I don't know any situation that I'm aware of
where it was a paid creator tocreator type of situation.
At the end of the day, we'reall here for like the same thing
, like we love YouTube.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
And if you have a good idea, it doesn't matter how
many subscribers you are,because now I want your idea.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
Yes, and that's the thing.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
Like I'm, probably not buying you.
I'm buying your idea and youcome with it.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
I'm shocked at some of the people I was able to get
to collab with.
Like now that I think back toit, I'm like how the hell did I
do that?
There were some creators thatdidn't collab with anyone else
and I somehow got them.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
You're an idea man.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
That's why I it was relevant.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
It felt right to them , it felt like you probably
catered that idea for them.
And it was easy because ifyou're reaching out to larger
creators, they're doing things alot different.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
Right.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
So easy is going to be the number one thing and have
a plan.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
So this specific creator also said well, their
DMs are closed and all thisother stuff that's going to make
it more difficult.
If they're on a social mediaplatform you interact with them
on and they've seen you around,then you're probably more likely
to get a response than if youjust randomly come out of
nowhere, especially if you don'thave their email address.
So definitely engage in theircommunity, not just for the, the
try to get the collab, but liketo be a genuine part of their
community.
If you can do that and it'sactually genuine you'd be
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surprised what you can do.
But if you're, doing it forstrategic purposes.
I feel like if you don't comeabsolutely correct with
everything they need like Idon't want to take any of your
time.
Can you please record this?
It's for this video idea.
I'm going to put it out thisdate.
I would love to have you be apart of it.
That works a lot more than youmight think.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
That's pretty cool.
I like that advice.
As far as getting in touch, Icompletely agree, show up in the
comments.
And touch, I completely agree,show up in the comments and I
mean you can try other platforms.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
You can try other creators too.
Yeah, it doesn't have to be aspecific, so they have a
specific creator they like, butit can be anyone in that niche.
By the way, if you work withanother creator in the niche
that that big the one creatoryou really want to work with and
they've seen you work with theother person they're much more
likely to work with you it'sweird people amongst.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
People amongst niches are friends Like you might not
know their friends, oh, yes, butlike they're friends, and this
comes back to like the firstpart, which is like creator
community.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
And like, eventually, whether you're a small channel
trying to grow together oryou're even larger channel still
trying to grow together, butmore relate and kind of
strategize together, yeah.
Like you all know each other.
Plus, when you're just on theplatform, like you know who your
similar creators are.
Like you know who you supportor you know who you should
(25:46):
support just being a member of aspecific community yeah so I
mean funny have you ever seen acollab where you're like oh my
god, you're friends right,you're like wait a minute?
how do you know each other?
Like us I love when that breaksmy that's still to this day,
breaks my head when I watchyoutube and I'm just like see
(26:06):
two people in the same room andI'm like you know what I did.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
So here's an interesting thing I actually got
two large creators to collab.
I did like I was the the wholereason it happened okay and to
this day.
When I see one of them wear themerch of the other, it just
makes me smile.
I'm like that's amazing.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
That's another one, too Merch.
I feel like that sells outpeople who know each other too.
Like you see someone wearingthe merch and you're like not
only do you watch them, yousupport them.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
Support them.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, 100%.
And for a fact that they hadnever collabed before.
They never thought about it, um, and now they're like I, I love
that.
I love bringing large creatorstogether, but and then I made a
video of it behind the scenesstuff, so it was fun that's
amazing, fun stuff.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
I think the takeaway is like be a member of the
community yes show up in apositive way yes and do it
because it's coming from a goodplace.
Good things will come from thatyeah but I think, is you know,
maybe not just try to be goingafter the immediate reward, Not
just instant, like we're goingto collab, make an awesome video
(27:08):
.
I'm going to get like athousand subscribers from it.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Like no.
Show up in a genuine, authenticway and doors will open, I
agree.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
And if you're authentically watching this,
make sure you hit the subscribebutton.
If you're on YouTube, or ifyou're authentically watching
this, make sure you hit thesubscribe button.
If you're on YouTube or ifyou're listening to the audio
podcast and you love us thatmuch, you should just leave us a
five star review.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
Only five stars.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
What's the next one, jen?
I think this is an email.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
I think you're just putting these are very large
fonts at this point and I thinkyou just don't want to read them
.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
I don't want to anymore.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
I'm done with it.
Hey, vidiq team from Judah.
I have a very small channel 14subscribers.
Hey, you started your channel.
That's what we're counting as awin here.
I started about two months agoand slowly got to 14, but then
stopped and I've not goneanymore for the past three weeks
.
Is this normal?
Also, I hate candy corn.
Goodbye, judah, your questionis not warranted here anymore.
(27:58):
Bye, your question is notwarranted here anymore.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
Bye-bye, love it?
No, oh my gosh, so I guess Ihave to answer this end.
Yeah, I stopped talking anymorein the last three weeks.
It can be normal, depending onthe content you do.
I think also small creatorssometimes forget that it ebbs
and flows.
Sometimes your first subscribertakes forever.
Sometimes you get a bunch andthen all of a sudden it stops.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
Totally normal.
It's just part of the thingthat you don't see on YouTube,
because, for the most part, youwatch channels that are quote
popular.
That's how they came into yourpurview in the first place.
The home feed showed them toyou and those channels are doing
well, which is the whole reasonthey came to you.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
I like what you said there.
They came to you becausethey're doing well at the moment
.
That's a good one that's a gem.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
How smart I am.
I'm so smart, big brain momentthere.
Big brain, so smooth brain.
So I think I feel like it'simportant to remember that what
you're seeing is the tip of theiceberg.
I've talked about the iceberguh meme before, where you can
see all the stuff's underneaththe water.
You're just the tips.
So you're seeing all thesesuccessful channels going.
Oh, they're doing so well.
What you don't see is themillions upon millions of
channels that aren't doing great, that aren't killing it and
(29:06):
crushing it like Donald Trump.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
It's true, though, because they're not surfaced
either, because they're not,they're not doing great, right
you?
Speaker 1 (29:11):
just don't realize they exist, and you're one of
them.
Normal average channel yeah,yes, absolutely normal
experience yeah.
Does that mean that it's alwaysgoing to be that way?
No, if you continue at it, putout good content, you'd be
surprised.
Yeah, you'd be surprised, butthere are people who have
thousands of videos that are ata subscribe base that you would
think they they should be bigger, but there's reasons behind
(29:35):
that, typically, we, we, we evensee those from time to time.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
You see like an awesome video and you're just
like why aren't they bigger?
Right or maybe you're someonewho's left one of those comments
before.
That's like you deserve ahundred thousand subscribers
like what I can't wait to seewhen you finally take off I love
those comments uh, those arelike the sweetest comments ever
very sweet yeah, but it istotally normal and the crawl can
feel very slow in the beginning.
But you have nothing else tocompare it to and you probably
(30:04):
don't have someone that alsostarted to channel at the same
time to be like, yeah, no, weboth only have 14 subscribers,
it's normal like listen it comesdown to how many videos are you
uploading and how long you know.
It says you've stopped.
Um started two months ago.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
I don't know what the upload has been for yeah those
two months, but that's not badfor two months, sure, yeah.
How many videos like doesn'teven say so, yeah, yeah, we have
no idea like, and two months islike nothing.
You, baby, baby, nothing.
You're like the babiest ofbabies like so, so nothing.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
I'm excited for those pop-offs that are gonna come
because it's really exciting.
It's really fun even when youwake up one day and you got like
10 subscribers overnight.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
Well, we know that's going to happen because they
listen to the podcast.
We know it's going to happen100%.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
You just don't know when it's going to happen.
I mean, we don't know when it'sgoing to happen and it's like
the best feeling ever.
It's like, oh my God, what isgoing on?
And then you have no one totext about it.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
So you have to go on our Discord.
Yeah, go to our Discord andthere's a brag about it channel
in there.
You can literally leave yourbrag about moments.
Here's the other thing.
Sometimes people pop off andthey don't know what to do with
it.
You and I looked at a coupledifferent channels.
We haven't talked about this onthe podcast specifically, but
we looked at a couple with aspecific title and thumbnail
style.
One channel knew how to doubledown on it because the rest of
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the channel made sense.
And then there was anotherperson who literally had.
They weren't expecting itbecause what they did was they
took the idea from a video theysaw that popped off.
They did it.
It popped off, yes, as theyhoped it would, but had no idea
what to do with it after that.
And now their views are back.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
I think this is a very relevant conversation
because when I was coaching,this very specific video that
you're talking about was a veryhot take.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
Yes, for people to send me.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
Everyone was sending me this video and they were like
I want this to happen to me yes.
I want.
It was like, oh my gosh, it waslike 3 million views in like a.
It was ridiculous.
It was one of those momentsthat this doesn't happen.
This is so uncommon Right.
They were like I want that tobe me, I'm going to make the
same video, and I said, okay,well, here let me show you three
channels who did this andruined their channel.
(32:10):
Right and obviously we're notgoing to talk about those
channels, but you have to knowhow to do it right.
You do and you have to trendjack the right videos.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
The ones that are in the niche that you're in, at
least what you're trying toaccomplish.
Why would I, if I was a racingcar channel?
Why would I bake the hottestsandwich?
Now, I mean, why am I doing hotones?
Speaker 2 (32:28):
The hottest sandwich.
I like that.
It feels like you're gearing upfor our game.
You thinking of titles.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
I'm so hungry right now.
You have no idea Like I haven'teaten all day you were thinking
of titles.
I'm not even thinking aboutanything other than food.
Wait, do we have more emails,or was that the last one?
I think that's it.
Do we have one more, or is thatit?
Oh, we do have one more.
Let's do one more.
Oh, we have, sean.
Okay, we have a fun game thatwe're going to play after Sean's
email.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, go ahead,sean.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
There are so many others out there that have the
thou shalt do this, or else out.
Can we get a very strong Travis?
Speaker 1 (33:08):
Thou shalt not use thumbnails with red text.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
Okay, I love that and it comes across very ick.
Yes, sean, yes, I started mypodcast.
Ooh, barbells and Bourbon.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
That's a cool name.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
Subbed.
Yeah immediately Strengths andStories in January 2024.
I interview anyone and everyone, allowing them to tell their
life stories, shared experiencesand open their hearts to
sensitive topics.
Love it, this is very sweet.
My guests have includedbusiness owners, recovering
addicts, single mothers, models,musicians, athletes the list
(33:47):
goes on.
For this reason, every episodehas a different topic, making it
impossible to narrow down myniche right, I see where this is
going.
Yeah, you can see.
Yes, I do.
Um, each of my episodes gets afew hundred to about a thousand
views in a few month period.
I have 35 30 subscriberscurrently.
Um, as a fun tradition, eachshow, I arm wrestle each guest
and ask them a question whiledoing so.
(34:08):
A spin on hot ones, relevant.
Okay, you guys are synced up ina weird way and my guests
having to think under pressure.
With that said, my niche isliterally unbeatable Anyone.
No topic is off limits.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
Is this hurting my potential to grow my channel and
reach certain audiences?
So here's the thing.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
Here's the thing Ah, this is Hot Ones.
In and of itself is that samething, but the hook is that it's
Hot Ones, right it's?
Speaker 2 (34:38):
a celebrity.
Speaker 1 (34:39):
That is the thing.
The niche is kind of the food.
The celebrity brings in newpeople who maybe have never seen
the show before or if they have, they're interested in that
particular person.
But what people coming back forover and, over and over again
isn't necessarily than thatperson it's like the situation
right yeah you need some type ofhook.
Maybe you are the hook.
Maybe you're so good and sointeresting interviewing these
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people and then arm wrestlingthem for some odd reason.
That that's the hook.
Is it going to slow your growth?
It might be harder to grow.
Yes, however, my expectation Iam starving right now, by the
way.
My expectation my stomach isgrowling.
It's terrible.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
Can you hear it?
Speaker 1 (35:17):
I'm glad.
Um, my expectation would bethat the people that do stick
for you, stick around, are goingto be a an incredible community
that you're going to be able toleverage in every single
episode, which is cool yeah,you're building a channel a
different way.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
Oftentimes I've had this conversation with creators
where they want to uploadsomething on their channel.
That makes absolutely no sense.
Sure, go ahead, nobody'sstopping you that's true there
are people who have channels forthat.
Exactly like how you'redescribing your podcast, it's a
creative, just experiment yeahyou want to talk about what you
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want to talk about, who you wantto talk about and do what you
want to do.
And we're here on youtube forthat creativity too.
Every single channel doesn'thave to have like a really
defined target audience and aset growth strategy and having
you know your content buckets inline and maximizing
discoverability, like you cantotally just make whatever you
want.
And when you get views and youget subscribers, they're like
(36:14):
far, far exceed the other time,but they're truly there for what
you're doing.
And it's going to come slowerand it's going to take more time
, but there's no rule that saysyou have to maximize growth in
every single exactly youpossibly can, like you, just
chill and do creative stuffright, there's the two for one,
one for you, or two for them,one for you.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
Idea which is like you make two videos for the
audience and one for yourself.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
Keep you from burning out yeah, like there's, there's
no rules here.
If the goal, though, is to growthe channel faster, like travis
said, you gotta, you gotta havesomething there has to be some
reoccurring theme, a variablethat is just people know what,
what you're gonna do absolutely,and they have to know what
(37:01):
they're coming back for yeah, uhmaybe, maybe it is arm
wrestling segment, who knows?
Speaker 1 (37:05):
I feel like I need to arm wrestle you now, but I'm
not going to.
Speaker 2 (37:07):
I don't know where we would arm wrestle.
I have zero idea.
You're hungry and weak, thoughI am very weak right now.
Speaker 1 (37:13):
And you know I keep thinking about so when we came
in down the street from thisplace is a place called it's
like Burger and Seafood and we,about this walk and I'm like,
anytime you have two wildlydifferent foods, that restaurant
doesn't do either one of themvery well, like it's impossible
we're both amazing because, likeyou'll see, like a teriyaki
place with like steak and I'mlike no, I don't know, it's not
a seafood burger that's that's.
This is not the underwater with.
(37:35):
Spongebob Squarepants, salmoncakes or something you're just
trying to make me throw up hereand now, aren't you?
You just really want it tohappen here on camera.
Speaker 2 (37:44):
Like we've made crab cakes and we put them on burgers
.
Speaker 1 (37:47):
That is a Krabby Patty, that's Spongebob and
Wendy's Is that?
Speaker 2 (37:52):
actually a Krabby.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
Patty Kind of, but did you ever?
Speaker 2 (37:55):
have a Krabby Patty.
Wait, is there a defined recipefor a Krabby Patty?
There is.
Speaker 1 (37:59):
And here's the funny thing.
So Wendy's did a special acouple months back where they
were selling Krabby Patties.
All right, Now for those whodon't know, spongebob
SquarePants right.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
It's a great show and you're supposed to put it on in
a specific order.
Speaker 1 (38:16):
Oh, this is like a big match.
It's a real thing.
Yeah, and I guess they weren'tactually putting it in.
You hear my something?
Now?
I think they were actuallyputting it in the wrong order
and people, some people weregetting livid about this because
you know, hardcore Spongebob,squarepants people, I will be
honest, and I ate it, and it wasjust a burger, but for some
reason I really liked it.
I kept buying, I couldn't stopbuying.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
If they had it in the proper order, it would probably
taste better.
Speaker 1 (38:36):
Maybe here's the thing I don't normally eat raw
onions on burgers.
Speaker 2 (38:40):
Okay, but I liked it.
Burgers okay, but I I likepatty.
The crappy patty was different.
Do you know how the order waswrong?
Speaker 1 (38:45):
I'm not that much of a nerd, but it was.
It was different.
I remember reading about it.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
I could tell you the order of a big mac, because I
have a christmas ornament bro, Ilove things, do it do you want
me to sing the song, please.
Speaker 1 (38:58):
Big mac filet fish quarter better.
Speaker 2 (38:59):
No to all the patty special sauce, lettuce cheese,
pickles, onions on a sesame seedbun yes.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
You deserve a break today at McDonald's.
Let's go.
Speaker 1 (39:07):
What is going on?
Speaker 2 (39:08):
You pulled the-.
Speaker 1 (39:09):
Does that happen when you pull the thing you pulled?
Speaker 2 (39:10):
the string on the Big Mac.
It's literally a Christmasornament that goes on my family
tree to this day, but why?
I have no idea.
Speaker 1 (39:17):
Where did they get it from?
I literally couldn't tell you.
This has been like in my familyforever and everybody knows the
words like never forget.
Okay, so you may not rememberthis because you maybe I hope
you were born by things.
It makes you feel real old, butmany a year ago mcdonald's had
a oh, now I'm really gonna domyself here.
Speaker 2 (39:36):
I just realized how are you aging yourself?
Speaker 1 (39:37):
I'm in the middle of saying this and I'm like holy
crap, when you would buy asandwich, they were giving away
like a million dollars and theway that they were, you would
find out if they were, you'regoing to win.
It is.
There was this song and it wentthrough the entire mcdonald's
menu.
If the song completed, that wasthe thing.
That's how you knew you won.
The song was a record, but itwasn't a real record.
(39:58):
It was like on a, like aplastic thing that they gave you
with your meal and you had toput it on a record player and
listen to it.
And if they sang the song allthe way through, you won like a
million dollars, but always itwould end like like they get
halfway through how muchmcdonald's I would buy I
literally I went hard inmonopoly when that was oh, my
(40:19):
god, I'm competitive, though,like I can't like monopoly ruins
lives, we know this.
Speaker 2 (40:25):
It ruins families I'm very competitive for monopoly
in general like monopoly isterrible and you want to take
his mcdonald's like I willdestroy monopoly is a hate crime
I win monopoly, so what's thereto be mad about?
Speaker 1 (40:38):
I, I would definitely would never be friends.
Speaker 2 (40:40):
I think we would stop being friends, it's funny
because I can't play any othergame, though like any other game
, I'm your worst nightmareperson.
We're like janet, your turn.
Oh my god, where's janet's herturn?
Like I'm that person, but likemonopoly you're on it, I'm
locked in well.
Speaker 1 (40:54):
Speaking of which, why don't we play a quick game?
Speaker 2 (40:56):
we have a couple minutes, let's do a couple
rounds all right do?
Speaker 1 (40:58):
we want the bell yes, just because randomly here give
me the bell, let me be incharge of the bell, you be the
bell.
Because you know that's goingto go well.
Speaker 2 (41:05):
Well, I feel like I need to hit the bell, so here we
have random words from a cardgame.
Speaker 1 (41:11):
And where did the card game come from?
Jen, I borrowed it.
You borrowed it from where?
Speaker 2 (41:15):
I borrowed it from my hotel room, Okay all right,
just checking.
I will return.
Speaker 1 (41:19):
Which is going to be an odd situation, because you
can't get back in your room.
You've already checked out.
Speaker 2 (41:22):
I'm going to just bring it to the front desk and
be like, oh my gosh, I foundthis outside.
Hey, that's fair, does?
Speaker 1 (41:29):
anyone want it?
Does anyone want it?
Speaker 2 (41:30):
Yes, okay, so these are just random words and we're
going to see who can come upwith the better YouTube title
using the random drawn word.
Speaker 1 (41:42):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (41:43):
Do you want to?
Speaker 1 (41:44):
pick first what are you?
A magician?
Now I am.
Speaker 2 (41:46):
I'm really allowing you to.
So are we going to ding when wehave?
Speaker 1 (41:50):
it.
This is so fun.
Speaker 2 (41:51):
Or who's the better.
Well, you already cheated, Ialready looked at it.
So how are we doing this?
You already cheated.
Speaker 1 (41:56):
Well, take a look at it.
Look at the word.
I think it's funny, because weburrito okay, we'll do a test
one burrito.
Speaker 2 (42:03):
So what would your title be?
Speaker 1 (42:07):
uh, six amazing ways to cook a burrito in under five
minutes okay all right, whatwould yours be?
Speaker 2 (42:14):
I mean a burrito two times the size of chipotle.
Speaker 1 (42:16):
Here's how you might have won that one.
Okay, okay, I'll give you thatpoint.
All right, what's the next?
You were crushing them.
Speaker 2 (42:24):
before in the test I was, but I'm so hungry I can
barely think straight.
Speaker 1 (42:27):
But okay, all right, diaper, diaper.
Okay, go first, go first.
You got to think.
You don't have enough time tothink.
Speaker 2 (42:36):
I stopped using these diapers for this reason
impossible to beat.
Speaker 1 (42:47):
That I can't.
There's no way I can beat that.
You stopped using these diapersfor this reason, I don't know.
I was wearing the diapers whenI stopped using them.
I can't beat.
I literally cannot beat thatand I think I'm pretty okay.
I'm funny.
I cannot beat that how I don'tknow the hard thing about this.
Speaker 2 (43:00):
like you have to come up with the title so fast, damn
.
Speaker 1 (43:04):
Hair.
Speaker 2 (43:05):
Hair.
Speaker 1 (43:07):
This is how I lost all my hair.
I mean, that's easy, right,you're not beating that that's
an old man.
All right, that's an easy one.
Next one that's an old man.
You're delirious.
Speaker 2 (43:19):
Oh my gosh Chicken Chicken.
Speaker 1 (43:23):
How this chicken lost its hair.
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2 (43:24):
Chicken, chicken.
How this chicken?
Speaker 1 (43:25):
lost its hair.
Oh, okay.
Speaker 2 (43:27):
That's a callback.
Have you seen those hairychickens?
No, that's a story structureand a half though those are some
hairy chickens.
Speaker 1 (43:35):
You've seen those exotic chickens with like all
the that's fur no, Not fur it'sstill feathers, but it looks
like hair.
Speaker 2 (43:40):
I was going to say raising chickens in my backyard
for the first time.
Speaker 1 (43:43):
But don't you already do you, really do it?
Speaker 2 (43:45):
you don't have I lived on a farm does that count,
my backyard?
Speaker 1 (43:49):
why chicken tastes great.
All right, you want that one.
Okay, real quick.
Speaker 2 (43:52):
Let's see this I feel like I had a little extra time
to think about it picnic.
Speaker 1 (43:57):
I wish I was on a picnic because I'm hungry.
I'm really so freaking hungry.
I want a picnic basket rightnow.
I want, want a picnic.
This is a big waste of time,but I love it, do it again.
Speaker 2 (44:06):
Do another one.
Five weird things I put in mypicnic basket.
Speaker 1 (44:09):
Why, Jen?
Why are you doing this toyourself?
Speaker 2 (44:11):
I'm getting all the clicks today.
Speaker 1 (44:15):
This podcast is a dumpster fire.
We got a dumpster Dumpster fire.
Speaker 2 (44:20):
One more.
Speaker 1 (44:20):
That's amazing, okay, I think I obviously won that
one.
All right, last Jeans, that'salmost.
Speaker 2 (44:29):
Let's do another one, that's a tough one because I'm
like the only thing I can thinkof is like five jeans you should
buy.
Speaker 1 (44:34):
No, I feel like I'll end up in HR if I try to come up
with something so all right,here we go.
Last one, leprechaun.
Speaker 2 (44:40):
Leprechaun.
That time I found a leprechaununder the bridge.
Speaker 1 (44:46):
That time.
It was only the one time,though.
Right, what's your leprechauntitle?
It would be.
Why are they always after me?
Lucky charms, that's good.
The leprechaun story.
Speaker 2 (44:58):
There's leprechaun on the thumbnail, we'll give you
that.
Speaker 1 (45:00):
Oh, my God.
Speaker 2 (45:04):
I'll have to put one in.
Oh, that's funny.
Okay, look.
Speaker 1 (45:05):
Okay, this has been this has been an episode, it's
been a thing and, uh, I can'tthank you enough for coming all
the way up to seattle to comesee me again and have a great
episode we had another episodebefore this, so good we're gonna
do it again.
Try to do a lot more of thesemany more to come and if you
want to interact with us, uh,get on discord, because we're
recording one time a monththrough Discord, talking to
people just like you.
Speaker 2 (45:26):
You got to stay in the know also.
Speaker 1 (45:27):
Yeah, stay in the know.
Speaker 2 (45:29):
The know is no, just say no.
Speaker 1 (45:33):
Just say no to chicken.
No means no.
Speaker 2 (45:36):
Let's go get Travis some food and peeps, all right.
Speaker 1 (45:38):
Anyway, thank you for joining us.
Of course, leave us five stars.
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