Turn and Burn: Restaurant War Stories

Turn and Burn: Restaurant War Stories

Join us as we hear restaurant leaders and lifers tell insider war stories—from the absurd to the awkward to the heartfelt. Cohosts and restaurant consultants Fred Gordon and Sarah Williams bring their signature north-south flair in a lighthearted, relaxed format. More at turnburn.co


May 16, 2024 38 mins

Three Peruvian food carts, two juice bars, and a donut shop... and she's still growing! Fabiola (aka "Tita") came at food cart and restaurant ownership with the drive, passion, and enthusiasm of a true super entrepreneur. Inspired by her love of family, her father's legacy, and her Peruvian roots—and ably supported by her sister Fabiana, her mother, and a robust staff with a similar background—Tita is building a m...

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The Vagabond Chef enters the studio: culinary anthropologist, West Virginia prodigal son, and all about stories and real f*cking food made with intention. This self-described "more vigilante than superhero" is reimagining the way small communities look at food culture—through the lens of Appalachian history and his travels.

The true embodiment of artist and adventurer—inflected perhaps with a bit of stoic Memento mori—thi...

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March 26, 2024 32 mins

Is there room for more empathy in fine dining kitchens? Our interview with Chef Camila Rinaldi explores the topic in an honest, heartfelt discussion of the roles that fear and respect play in the restaurant industry.

We chat about balancing vulnerability and toughness in some of the most intense restaurant kitchens in New York City, as well as the patience and survival skills that many upward-moving female chefs employ every day to...

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March 5, 2024 47 mins

Get to know podcast cohosts Fred and Sarah, including how they work with the restaurant industry, how to improve restaurant systems, and how Turn & Burn came to be. Also hear some of Sarah's funniest and goriest restaurant war stories: building a Dunkin' Donuts doughnut tank and surviving as a young garde manger without cutting your thumbs off.

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February 14, 2024 43 mins

On Valentine's Day, we share Chef Tajahi Cooke, the Gatherer, and his wife Danielle, the Handler. Listen in to a celebration of love, music, food, and community—a journey of diversity, acceptance, and connection. They inspire us never to forget our origin stories or ignore how interwoven we are. Out of many, we truly are one...

Chef Taj and Danielle are affiliated with Chef José Andres's World Central Kitchen and many Colo...

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January 24, 2024 39 mins

Part entertainer, part pizza dough fanatic, Dave embodies New York City ambition, humor, and gratitude through and through. Larger-than-life storytelling meets charm as Dave regales us with tales of his Italian ancestors' perilous journey to New York, gifting Rihanna (of all things) an um-bur-rella at legendary hotspot Da Silvano, training under pizza royalty Paulie Gee, and his plans for worldwide pizza domination.

Hear how th...

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December 31, 2023 33 mins

When art meets love, you get Chef Dylan. We explore the world of a hotel restaurant pastry chef—including manning the kitchen solo (and a little drunk) when hundreds of hotel guests, stranded during a massive power outage, appear in the dining room for morning coffee.

Hear how a leader can arise at the darkest hour and why this chef will never watch The Bear.

Follow Dylan and see his beautiful pastry art on Instagram @_thegaychef!


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December 9, 2023 24 mins

Meet the steward of the culture. Brandon is a gently powerful yet empowering leader, training staff to own their “restaurant within a restaurant.” He discusses the mysterious corporate restaurant world—the ups and downs—as well as the restaurant ecosystem during and since the COVID surge.

Turn & Burn podcast co-host Fred also shares his insights and stories from his many years as a general manager.

Intro : Simon Sinek

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November 19, 2023 50 mins

Food festival chaos, debauchery and excess, Avenger entitlement, and a dash of family—all delivered with the infectious, wry sense of humor you’d expect from a Chicago chef who never meant to end up in the restaurant industry. Matt is a solid-gold first guest and sets the perfect tone for the Turn & Burn podcast.

We also discuss his soon-to-launch food truck concept, including booting up social media for a new business when you...

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