#31: ALAN TUDYK Talks 'Resident Alien', 'Andor', 'Firefly' and A Lifetime of TV Topics

#31: ALAN TUDYK Talks 'Andor', 'Resident Alien', 'Firefly' and A Life Time of TV Topics

Episode Transcript

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Hey, where's the remote? It's time for TV Topics, where
those who love television discuss the series and
performances that should be on your radar.
Hello and welcome to TV Topics. This is your host, Stephen
Przykowski. I'm an entertainment journalist
and a critic with a lifelong love of television.

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Over the last decade, I've conducted interviews with
hundreds of TV's most talented celebrities, including Dick Van
Dyke, Natalie Portman, Bryan Cranston, and so many more.
After speaking with them, I often found myself wondering
what are they watching on TV? So I started a podcast to get
the answer to that question. You guessed it, TV topics.
Each episode is dedicated to oneguest.

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They sit down with me to discussthe TV they love, plus how it
influenced their lives and careers today.
My guest is a great Alan Tudyk. If you don't yet know him by
name, you'll certainly know his work, especially if you've
watched any animated Disney filmin the last decade, Firefly,
Andor, as well as countless other movies and TV shows where
his voice brings your favorite characters to life.

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We also talk about his incredible work on Resident
Alien, a one-of-a-kind series. With his one-of-a-kind
performance that delivered four years of magic, Alan and I were
in tune with much of our viewinghistory, both raised in a
healthy dose of Looney Tunes as well as classic TV reruns and
plenty of 80s television hits, Two of which come up in his
answer to my question about his favorite TV theme songs.

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Both songs are great, but only one of them is sung by true
music royalty. Stay tuned to find out who.
So grab a seat on the TV topics couch and enjoy my conversation
with Alan Tudic. Hi there, this is Alan Tudic.
I'm hanging out with Steven Prusakowski on TV topics.
Song of a bit. Fantastic.
I laugh every time every time you say that there's certain

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things about the show. Well, first of all, welcome to
TV topics and congratulations onthe Emmy nomination.
Congratulations on resident alien, but also your career of
work. When you plow through IMDb, it's
like, Mike, I didn't realize howmany times I've I've recognized
you and you know, known your work for years, but I didn't
realize how much of your work I've enjoyed.

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So such a such. A friend.
Thank you. Thank you very much.
That's one of those. Absolutely.
My pleasure. Which is absolutely.
You know, I get to do this job. It's cool.
So I'm glad you like it. Thank you.
You've got a lot of fans. I put a little thing out there
saying if anyone has any questions, people don't often
get the opportunity to ask. So I'm I throw it out there if
there's something that I'm like,Oh yeah, that's a great

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question. And it was just a lot of thank
yous. It was everyone's like, I don't
have a question, I don't want tothank him.
How much they love your work, How much they love the series.
Man, that's great. That's very nice.
Can you there's, there's a thingthat I mean, this was something
that I noticed more in New York because it's a walking city, but
I'd be walking down the street and it was this, this is like
early in my career when it firststarted happening and somebody

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would go, you just walk past somebody you don't know and they
go, hey, man, love it, keep doing it.
And then you just keep walking and they keep walking.
And I was like, what? What a crazy job that there
isn't. Yeah, there's not an accountant
that just nails his job that I can walk by and go, hey, buddy,
you with the numbers? Wait, Adam subtract and all the

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equals. That is good.
Obviously I'm not very good at math.
It's only about Adam subtractingand equals it.
But yeah, it's cool. So thank you very much for
sharing that. Thank you.
I have a very specific undefinedsense of humor.
There's certain things that thisseries and your performance that
just but what makes me laugh, makes me laugh and smiling along

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with me. But like you're cracking up
again and like I, I crack up even thinking about it.
So before we get into your work on Resident Alien, let's talk
some TV topics. Remember, there's no pressure.
There's no right or wrong answers.
It's all a bit of fun. OK, OK.
Looking back over the years, what was your relationship with
television? Were you ATV?

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Junkie watches? Everything.
Very selective go to shows. I was ATV junkie as a kid.
I grew up inches away from the television.
Some of my fondest memories, andI have a lot of the outdoor
memories being a Gen. Xer of being a lot of fun play
outside. But Saturday mornings watching
cartoons with a bowl of cereal. Man, that with way too much

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sugar going coursing through my body.
There was some alchemy that happened there with Bugs Bunny
and the Warner Brothers cartoonswith all of those that old style
vaudeville quality to the comedybecause it was coming from those
guys and it's coming from the 40s and it just sort of
something happened. Something, something imprinted

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on me. I still I I find so much joy in
those cartoons and and then thenbeyond that, I love sitcoms.
I love Mork and a huge fan of Mork and Mindy three's company.
But I did all the reruns of, youknow, Gilligan's Island and, you

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know, whenever you're sick at home and you watch all of those
in addition to the Price is Right, you would watch My Three
Sons. Oh, I lots of I Love Lucy.
Yeah. And then, you know, they growing
up the Hulk Dukes of Hazzard didn't realize the whole,
especially growing up in Texas, the whole Dixie flag situation.

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It just but that was that was the feel of that like a Smokey
and the Bandit was a great movie.
And that was sort of like a knock off of smoking the bandit
with the idea that you're driving on a first of all, you
run from the cops when they comeafter you, the cops are idiots.
And when you're driving down theroad and Oh no, the bridge is
out, the logical decision is hitthe gas.

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It's no, we're going to crash unless we hit the gas.
It would. I love that that dirt.
Pile to the right of the road and hope that, on the other
hand, is not like a Canyon or a tractor or who knows what a
family going. Just go into slow motion.
It pauses, and Charlie Daniels comes on with a voiceover and
says, well, I don't know. But the way the crow flies, he

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doesn't always get to the other side.
And then you go into a commercial.
Listening to your answer, it's like a mirror of but your answer
sounds like we could be twins from the Warner Brothers and
actually going outdoors though, and enjoying life outdoors.
And actually I would be begging to go outdoors.
But when you got indoors, then you had your your TV and it was

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like constant flow. Like you said, Gilligan's
Island. I drew Genie.
Yes, yes, good one. That was a really good one.
And your sick days was price is right of of course of.
Course, of course. Like the Warner Brothers stuff,
it's got to be pretty ingrained in you.
I know that I still see things. I'd remember the Warner Brothers
version of it. Yes, I I remember songs that

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must have been vaudeville. Songs like Daffy Duck.
She was an acrobat's daughter. She threw, flew through the air
like a goose. But one matinee, her bridge, oh,
she she flew through the air on a noose 1 matinee.
Her bridgework gave way and she flew through the air like a
goose. Like those things just those are
ridiculous. That's fun.

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Yeah. And it's kind of problematic as
a lot of it was IA lot of us came out of it OK.
You know, like even with the Dukes of Hazard, I sometimes
will hum the horn and I go, oh, wait, I shouldn't be doing that.
You know, like that does not play well nowadays.
But I'm not thinking of it in that way.
I'm just thinking of, like you said, Bowen, Luke, Duke, Daisy,
Boss, Hogg, and all that crazy adventures of of Hazard.

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Yeah, when you look back, it is.Yeah, it is.
It's when you watch them, you'relike, wow, this is, this is bad.
Why are there always so many weird criminals showing up in
this small town like these half baked plans and and schemes and
and then the Duke boys have to solve the crime.
Oh A-Team. We didn't say A-Team.
A-Team was a big one back then. Also solving crimes in small

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towns. Just like the bionic man.
Just like the bionic woman. Bionic Woman yeah, they're,
they're crazy to watch even the cartoons when you watch Pepe Le
Pew, you're like, oh, I wouldn'twant to show this to a kid.
He's a rapist. And it's, it's, I mean, it's
crazy, but it's I, I haven't once and I watched all those

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cartoons, looked at a cat twice like that.
That's just never happened or even, you know, or the, the, you
know, the, the human equivalent.So.
Thank God. I don't know, it just gives,
yeah. You brought up the Hulk.
Yeah, you brought up the Hulk. Was the end for what episode?
It was the hitchhiking down the street.

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That was total David Banner, right?
Yes, absolutely. There was a great take.
We couldn't use it for time. And ver, who played Joseph was
so he's so funny and he's a likea good looking guy and he he
doesn't always get to play funny.
So he was really having fun and just takes to it and has great
ideas and like, you know, half of the funny stuff is are his

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ideas. And one of them was he's going
down the street then na, na, na.And that that the theme that
that the Hulk at the end of every Hulk where David Bennett
would leave town because he's he's still on the run and he has
his back now. He's now lost an arm because he

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had fought the Mantid and it didn't hurt.
It's just a scratch and kind of Monty Python in that way.
And so he starts, he starts walking.
He tries to thumb a ride. The people slow down.
And then they were screaming in the car when they saw his half
of his face, which was all mauled by the manted aliens.
And they go along and then the music really swells.

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He throws the bag over his rightshoulder.
The bag falls to the ground and he keeps walking.
And he walks almost all the way down the street before he stops,
turns around, looks up at this guy like, oh, come on, man walks
back, picks up the bag, throws it over the same shoulder and
falls on the ground, and he justkeeps walking.
Oh my God, So stupid and beautiful.

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I hope it gets released in some other form, like yeah, some
outtakes, bloopers type of thing.
Perfectly stupid, yes. Yeah, it's got a true Monty
Python feel to it, with the spraying out of the wound in the
face. Thank you, Chris Sheridan, who,
you know, created the show. I was like, please, we need to

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have a we need to have a thing. And he he was like, that sounds
like Monty Python. And I was like, no, we we've
earned it. Come on, we've earned it.
He he needs to say it's nothing.We need, we need a punch and he,
he liked it. Thank thankfully he liked it and
it got to stay in. Yeah, it's a lot of fun and I I
love that you kept going back toit, turn your head and all the

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all the jokes he worked. Look away, look away Could.
Have been a one joke moment but it kept growing and growing.
Just hilarious stuff. Yes, thank you man.
That's my favorite kind. When it comes to shows, is there
a show that makes you laugh the most?
One that you put on when you need a laugh.
Oh shit, a show that makes me laugh Firefly.

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It's mine. I can't do just mine, but that
one makes me laugh a lot. That's the one that's I'm
surprised makes me laugh like Joss Whedon was always so funny.
And we don't, you know, we thinkof like all the butt kicking and
all this stuff and space Cowboysand all that stuff.
But that's the humor that made it all work Today's.
That's completely fine. Yeah, today people would love to

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hear more about that. Oh, you know what?
Joel Mchale's of show right now has some really funny stuff.
You know the one about animal control Also, you know, go go
back to Liz Lemon and a 30 Rock.That show was funny, funny,
funny. Man, they were just, I loved all
their references and stuff. It was, that was a really good

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show. It was funny.
I can watch that one. Doctor Spacheman.
I could just go on YouTube and just watch all of the Doctor
Spacheman outtakes. Dr. Spaceman Spacheman.
Anyway, Yeah, that one. How about crying?
Do you? Is there a show that made you
cry recently or did you cry at all during shows?
Yes, I must have You know what Icried during They're not shows.

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I if you go on YouTube, is this TV still?
Can we call that TV? But there was a play.
It's a play on TV. So this is I'm I'm breaking the
rules here. But if you go on YouTube and you
put in Michael Jeter Tony Awards, raise a glass from oh,
every musical theater person is going Oh my God, it's from old.

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But I can't remember the name ofthe, the musical Hamilton.
No, no, it was a it was the Grand Hotel.
The Grand Hotel. Raise a glass of freedom.
Raise A Yeah, right? No, it's a raise A raise a glass
to friendship and all of that. And his performance has so much
joy coming out of it. It makes me cry.
I can watch, oh, but see their plays again, Dream girls.

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I can watch the original dream girls either the Tony Award
performance, the song that became famous by Jennifer
Hudson. And I, I think I'm not going to.
I am telling you that whole thatthat that.
You're going to love me. What is it?
You're going to love me. Yes, Oh my God, if you can get
through that Tony performance without just that kind of like

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crying that just arrests you andjust takes such pulling tears
from from your face, I'm impressed because that she, it
is incredible. So yeah, check that out.
It's not Jennifer Hudson in the play, but Jennifer and other
people can fill that in, fill all these answers in and then

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you submit them and you win a prize.
That's what makes me cry. Really.
Just heartfelt singing. I don't know something about
singing. And it can even just be, it can
even be joyful. It doesn't have to be sad.
Well, because like raise a glassis very joyful.
It's just such, there's so much vulnerability in singing because
you're you're open and I Can't Sing also.

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So I'm I'm jealous. Probably I'm crying out of
jealousy and envy, but I I there's some to sing and dance
and just give all of yourself over to something like that.
It's such a it's such a big, generous gift from a performer
and it's impressive. There's a lot wrapped up in it.

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Like Billy Porter when he sings Beauty School Dropout, he and he
sang it for on the Rosie O'Donnell Show.
And I think he's sang it on maybe Jay Leno.
But you will hear somebody so incredibly talented.
And I cried to that. And it's and it's so very funny.
He's like doing sort of a gospelrendition of it, you know, go

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back, go back, go back to high school.
And it's I was like, get out Satan, you know, and leave this
girl alone. But his, his range and his voice
make me cry. I don't know what it is.
Did you happen to see any of theJesus Christ Superstar recording
in Hollywood? I did, and it was very

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impressive. That will make me cry, too.
My wife was there. That's why I'm crying, because I
wasn't with her. She knows some dancers in the
show and she's like, we got tickets, but I'm in Texas, you
know, But family and stuff here.It's a shame.
Yeah, I know, I know, I know. Hopefully we get more than
YouTube clips. That's all I've seen.

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I'm not sure if there's a plan to put that out and broadcast
that, but it needs to go out. It's it's incredible.
You would think it's in Hollywood.
Somebody had to have a plan. Someone had a camera.
Right, Right. Yeah, She's she's.
Totally agree. All right, next question, if you
could play one pre-existing TV character, no matter the genre,

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no matter the time period, for any reason, which character
would it be and why? I don't.
Have a specific role. I'm sure there's a role in MASH
I could have played. That was just such a great show.
I don't, I don't want to. I don't want to take away
anybody's role, just everybody who knows MASH.
Give me a role, would you? I don't want to play Radar.
I don't. That's not the role I would like
to play. Maybe I don't need Alan Alda's

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character. I can't do what Alan Alda did,
but there's there's some role inthere, even if he was just a
guest star. Clinger, huh?
Oh, you know what? A clinger.
Oh, Clinger in the dress. He's the one who's always trying
to get out. I could definitely kill a
Clinger. I mean, I wouldn't kill a
Clinger. I would do that role.
All these questions are altered universes, no ones life gets

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affected. But yours.
OK, great, great. Then yeah, I'd love that role.
Also. What was the one where he he
would go and he go someplace else?
Oh, every every episode he changed.
He was a new person and he'd look in the mirror.
Quantum leap. I could do a quantum leap.
I know they just rebooted it, but I would do a comedy or

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version of it. There was a lot of comedy I
remembered in the first one. Or maybe that was just the way
my brain was watching it. Or maybe it was just hokey and I
read that as comedy. Like whenever Max said Max show
up with a cigar, he just like generally push buttons.
I don't know. I don't know how this works out.
You're just going to have to figure it.

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You got to figure it out. Then he'd leave.
I could definitely do that because that's in the sci-fi
realm there. The tone of the original was
much lighter. You're talking almost in the
vein of The Greatest American Hero, too.
Yes, let me do that one. Let me do that one.
I love that one. I love that as a kid, just that
he couldn't fly was hysterical. And the the effects were nothing

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special, but it was. Just careen into stuff when we
were so used to seeing, you know, like a Superman fly away
and you always had, you know, a way of elegance and grace and
power flying. And he was just like being flung
through the sky. I don't.
Know if the tagline for that wasYou'll believe a man can't fly

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over? They had a great song at the
begin the show I'm lighter than air never thought I could be so
free. Believe it or not, the starts to
shows used to be much much longer than I mean it would take
away from the show. Watch the perfect strip which
another one I watched perfect strangers intro.
It's almost the whole episode, just the whole hey, how are you?

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This is how we met. There's like a whole pantomime
under a song that they they explain what the show is, the
premise. What was?
That show that. They had similar to that where
they had it kind of like the whole set up they go when that's
how we met. Oh, heart to heart.
Heart to hearts, that's good. That's kind of like Nathan

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Fillion's castle. I feel like it's got that same
kind of like will they won't. Well, heart to heart, they were
together. That was that was part of the
premise. Similar vibe.
There's some. There's some kind of.
Kind of like a there's humor to it and a suave solving crime
danger around the corner, but still still solving a crime with
a quip. Oh, that, that intro had a whole

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monologue was the the guy Max goes.
That's me. I'm Max.
Oh yeah, right. Because when they met, it was
murder. He's been talking for 10
minutes. When's the episode start?
And all right, Max, don't make it about you.
Come on. What is this?
That's me. Max to Max.
Yeah, Max, we know. So let's dip into some more

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resident alien. Yes, yes.
So what's the origin story for you with the show?
How did you get involved? Yeah, I just got involved.
I was the last one evidently to be cast.
I for me, it was a very basic oh, hey, there's a thing.
They're kind of moving fast on this.
I I think they've had trouble finding their lead and read it

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for interest, kind of just a e-mail.
And I read it was like, oh, thisis exactly the kind of thing I
like. And when in, I think I
auditioned with Chris Sheridan on a computer and he was like in

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the room, but he was already, hewas in the room on a computer.
I have a screen. And because he was already up in
Vancouver, they had been everybody else was cast and was
ready to go and they just neededan alien and they were almost
ready to shut it down and put itoff for another year.
And so I've had them right whereI wanted them, desperate,

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clutching its straws. And then in walked a straw IA
straw man. I just kind of did it how I
thought it would be done and like, it seemed like that's this
is the way it's done, right? And they, they reacted as if it
was the first time they'd seen it done that way, which I guess

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according to Chris, it was. And I was, I was on the plane
very soon after that, like like 2-3 days and I went up and I was
working on, on another show DoomPatrol.
I was Mr. I don't know. I was a character on Doom
Patrol. I was a really cool character on

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Doom Patrol, Mr. Nobody. And it was the first season and
then I didn't show up for the rest of the seasons.
And why were you not in Doom Patrol against?
Because I was in, I was an alien.
I turned into an alien in Canada.
So I I went and met with them. I went back to Atlanta and
finished up Doom Patrol. I, I kind of did a back and

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forth for a little while and then we shot the pilot.
It took a year for them to decide to make it.
We've swatched the pilot. We're all like, wow, that's
better than oh, wow. We really liked it.
And sci-fi was like, love it. We're going to sit on it until
your contracts are almost up andthen we'll pull the trigger and
then put it off for another year.
So this show resonated, which iscoming to an end tonight.

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Right now, as we're talking, it's tonight, it's always had
like an odd it's just hit at a time in television broadcast
broadcast television that its future has been uncertain.
Not because the the studio didn't like it or because the

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actors didn't get along or because the writing wasn't
there. It's just been a time where
broadcast television is not was on a rapid decline and they
didn't know what to do with thisor if they were going to be able
to make it. So getting Four Seasons, I'll be
it in seven years, Four Seasons in seven years is is quite an

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accomplishment. Yeah, I mean, I think it's
incredible that you weren't the first one cast.
I always thought like even looking at, again, looking at
your IMDb, I was looking to see,well, you must have created, Co
created, you know, executive produced this.
You must have been involved fromday one because there's so much
of your your, your DNA. Yeah, it definitely.

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Chris is a writer and a collaborator that leans into his
actors. David Dobkin directed the pilot,
and he was the one that There's a great scene in the pilot where
Corey Reynolds, who plays Sheriff Mike, is with Elizabeth

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Bowen. Liv, Deputy Liv, they're in the
car and they're waiting for Harry Vander Spiegel to show up
at the clinic. And she turns on the radio and
says, don't what are you? What are you doing?
Don't touch the radio. That's my radio.
And she's like, I just wanted tohear some music.
He's like, you want music? You got music right here.
And he starts beatboxing. And then she joins him with the
mouth trumpet. And that was all something that

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Corey was just doing some beatboxing and David Dobkin
goes, I like that. And Chris is like, let's put
that in and then figured it out real quick and did it so so
Chris was the type of creator that would would lean into his
performance. So and and I definitely had a
take on my character. So if there was ever a moment

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where I filled filled a moment, he was always like, go for it,
keep going. And I, I was ready to with that.
So let's get into that a little bit.
Harry's voice, your way of delivering lines is Harry's
every line is a crafted line. There's no.
Like there's. Not a lazy moment, which I'll

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get into a little bit more afterthis, but how long did it take
you to develop that? And did it evolve at all or did
you kind of nail it early on? It evolved.
I I think, you know, in the beginning he didn't have emotion
and so his voice was much more stayed and, and clear and but I

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thought of it similar to Sonny the robot in I robot that I had
done years ago and that like Sonny always said words
correctly. That was the way that Sonny
talked. He talked, he said everything,
you know, with addiction and Annunciation and the vowels were

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correctly spoken and Harry was attempting that and not doing a
great job. So he spoke the words that came
out of his mouth. So it started a little more like
that. And then as emotion got into it,
because emotion colors so much of how we talk, as he began to
feel, then he got more into it also.

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And this was the big unexpected contributor to to the voice was
the mask. When I put on the mask, they put
in these teeth. And so I, I started to talk like
this. And if my voice got a little
lower and it was harder to enunciate and there was more of
a in the voice kind of a monstery sound.

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And so where I started and wherethe masks were kind of between
those two points became how Harry spoke it.
It started to fall a little bit more down into his voice.
But it is was always one that was choosing the words to say.
You know, the, the words are being spoken because he's not,

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he's he doesn't even have a human mouth when he starts out,
before he when he's an alien, you know, his Physiology is
completely different. So he had to learn how to use
this instrument in from the beginning.
So it was a fun, it was a fun, it was a, it was a fun character
to tackle. So even further though, like I

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said, this is this is a completely immersive
performance, full body, every word, every action, every
everything you do, even though you know, the way your facial
movements, I think maybe I mightbe wrong, but I think even
sometimes the way you blink and the way you move your eyes is
like, you know, thought out again, how did you approach that
and and and build that? And is it is it a challenge to

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consistently whenever you're on screen, knowing I have to be
playing an alien in a human body?
I can't just stand there and think about my accountant and
pluses and minuses. I have to be completely in this
scene. Yeah, I definitely don't think
of the pluses and the minuses. You know, it starts to become,
you know, after some time, a little more second nature.

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But yeah, there's you can't get lazy.
Laziness was immediate. Like if, if I, if I was, if I
wasn't focused, let's say, as opposed to lazy, if I wasn't
concentrating, it could get awayfrom you pretty fast.
It could become a caricature. So it just took focus.

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Yeah. I mean, he his walking was again
in informed by my, the work thatI had originally done in iRobot
that if you're going to walk, what is the most ergonomic way
of walking in which is there's athere's a the Alexander
Technique, which they teach in acting schools as a way of
getting to your center and feeling and freeing up your all

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of all of your, I don't know, all of the character movements
that we add to our bodies as we get older.
Like when you look at toddlers, this is maybe a little boring.
When you look at toddlers, they just stand up very straight and
when they fall down, they just kind of fall on their butts and
their back stay straight. It's once you start getting into
like the emotional years, 12/13/14 go through puberty,

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people start to like put on these hoses that we, we that
become our bodies. And sometimes it's to cover
parts of us up. Sometimes it's to tell a story
that, you know, we're hiding howscared we are.
So we got our chest up because we're really tough anyway,
coming to the center the way a skeleton should be moving.
That's how Harry was attempting to move.

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He just didn't do a great job ofit at all times, which was very
forgiving and made for comedy. And was there a favorite action
or something that you got to explore?
Like eating pizza is never the way you you'd see it in a
restaurant or not many restaurants.
But how about, is there anythingabout, you know, you get to
explore with the physical comedyof Harry that was just like your

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favorite? So much man.
I mean with Heather in season 2,Heather the bird girlfriend that
he falls in love with, there wasa line where he says why are my
knees weak? It was like a voice over.
I think why are my knees feelingweak or funny?
And I was like, I have to fall. I'm like, if my knees are weak,
I have can I fall? And then if I fall once, can I

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fall two more times? So I got to fall.
I got to do pratfalls, man, you don't get to do that.
An hour long television and justmy knees and just go, just let
your knees go. My knees and fall back is so
there's so much joy. You know, I haven't getting to

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do that and it's it's such a oldit's a that's a Warner Brothers
cartoon joke right there. Money fall down that the in the
first in the first episode, I think it was maybe even in the
pilot where it shows me trying to eat a chicken and I'm falling
down and I I'm confused while I'm falling.

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I got to do that. I was all of that was so much
joy trying to learn to sit and and I would pitch.
I pitched and I'm like, look, let me do one more.
I'm sitting like I look at the chair, I'm about to sit, I look
at the chair, I'm going backwards and then my balance
gets tipped too far forward and I go go over that way.
Those stupid jokes for me are are just great that I'm very, I

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feel very fortunate. I'm going to miss getting to do
things like that. You usually I get to do stuff
like that in like theatre I think, you know, theatre
performance. It must been an absolute
playground just to, you know, everything you got to do.
You get to say, wait, how am I going to take, how am I going to
take this on? How, what, how would Harry do
this and then bring it to life rather than having to sit back

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and say, I wish I could? You can just like, unload.
When Nathan Fillion's Octopus 42was dying and I got to give him
mouth to mouth resuscitation anddoing chest compressions just
destroy my chest compressions. You can make it.

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And it's his. His mouth is also his, his anus.
It's I. Oh my God, It's like, how were
we allowed to have that much fun?
It's just boggles my mind. It was great fun, great fun.
If it was a standard drama, alien drama, you wouldn't have
much to do, just kind of stand there and point at things.

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But Resident Alien gives you a whole treasure chest of things
to do. There was 1 yeah, there wasn't
there wasn't aliens for the kindof premiered sort of like right
after hours on Apple with Chewetel, not Chewetel with
yeah, no. Anyway, there was another one

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and I remember like he had AI remember.
I just saw clips of it. But he would he would do that
smile thing and they're like, can you not smile?
And he's like, and we had that, you know, it's just a natural
thing. It's what kids go through.
You watch little kids do that smile for the camera.
And there's a certain age that they start to learn to figure
out what a smile is. But in the beginning, it's just

(33:16):
like teeth together, mouth apart, like they're just showing
you their teeth. And it's so awkward.
So some of it anyway, some of itseems seems typical or something
that you would immediately know.But we got to go.
We got ours went up to 11. We kept got to because we had
comedy. We got to go farther.
We are In Sync. I was just going to say yours

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went to 11. It's crazy.
I'm like, am I hearing my, am I?Am I losing voices in my head?
Didn't I just bring back you left your lights on, I'm in your
head, you left you, I don't know, last that's.
Crap, what's for dinner? That's the worst question.
So the character evolves over the, you know, from episode 1

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to, especially now this season, when he really connects with his
humanity and which is like, kindof a, you know, a beautiful
moment for a show that it can bewatching an alien show or
watching a comedy. But then it has these really
human connecting moments that you're like, oh, yeah.
I'm like, I didn't expect to getemotional during this.
How did your performance evolve and what was it like getting to

(34:23):
unleash that side of Harry? It was hard in the beginning.
It was like it was hard. It wasn't difficult as much as
it was just unsettling. I was having scenes where I was
able to access an emotional sidethat I hadn't given myself
access to. Because he's an alien and
because he wasn't, he didn't have any subtlety, You know, he,

(34:47):
a lot of it kind of, you didn't know what was going on inside of
his body until he said what was going on.
If there was sort of a frozen, Ialways thought of him as having
this extreme alien energy that was behind everything.
So he, it's like almost, he glowed a little brighter because
he was not from this planet. And then when I became human, my

(35:10):
eyes got softer and I didn't have a lost look in my eyes and
I could actually talk to people right in front of me.
And it sounds like losing a a security blanket, but it gave
access to a lot more where I could talk to people with
compassion. Darcy, the character of Darcy,

(35:31):
when she's thinking about killing herself, you know, oh,
you know, it. There's there's there's room for
a little more subtlety. It it was I'll say the the main
thing it was was scary. I get done with scenes and go,
is that OK? Can I do that?
Is that allowed? It doesn't seem that seems it's

(35:53):
so new, new to me. And and then when I watch it,
I'm like it. I wonder, I don't know how
somebody else can see it. But when I, I don't know, I can
just turn, turn it on. When he's a human, I'm like,
that's not an alien boy. He's a human.
Look at that, look at, look at the way he's looking around the
room. He's a, he's a complete, that's
a human. And so it's a little scary.

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Like I said, always on performance, you pulled it off.
I could probably pick out those scenes and out of order and
know, yeah, right, when you're human and when you're not.
And then you also had the alternate Harry.
Oh, right, It's like. OK.
You put those all side by side and I think people can pick it
out and say, oh, that's obviously this version, which is
really great. Right beyond the sexy flick back

(36:38):
hair which? Yeah, that was quite a disguise.
Without that, I I could still pick it up.
I thought that was fun to to getto explore that the the bad ass.
Cigarette smoking, yeah, that was tricky this season.
That was this. That was that wasn't the Season
1 first episode and some of the second episode where I was

(37:00):
directing. So I was doing double duty of
acting and directing, but then had double duty of acting
because I had two characters. There's one scene where we met
up in a in a cabin together, thetwo aliens and Harry and the
mantid and the Harry had a beardbecause he had just come from
the moon. So it was try to be like, OK, so
we're going to do this, this, this, this, we got to shoot

(37:21):
this. I got to go get this beard off.
Please shoot this. During this time.
Luckily my wife was there and was able to help.
I I don't want to call her my assistant because there is
actually an AD but like I guess she'll be more of a Co director,
a silent partner. So she was able to give me
direction on my work when I was in front of the camera and that

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that was very helpful. As you said, it's coming to a
close today. I have not watched the finale.
I'm only watching tonight. I am upset to see it go.
What are your feelings about ending here and how it does end?
It has a definite ending. You know, we knew going into
this season it was pretty much over because for so many

(38:06):
reasons, but I think primarily because of just the way the TV
is, we're working right now and we're on broadcast television
and it's, it's, there's some challenges that some challenges
you just can't overcome. So we, we went in knowing that
and we, we knew that this was going to be our last episode.

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We like the last scene is the last scene we shot.
So everybody had all of that emotion of saying goodbye to
these characters, saying goodbyeto one another.
So it's it's there. But the thing about the show is
because it is so crazy at times,I leave and it's definitely

(38:48):
Harry leaves. But you could come right back
again and go, you know what? I changed my mind, I'm staying
and that's that. OK, you could go.
You could go for it. And so there could be more
stories down the road. It seems that, you know, I've
joked about that. It seems like the only thing is
getting made these days have a existing IP.

(39:11):
And now that we're cancelled, wehave an existing IP.
So we can be rebooted finally and we can be, we can live again
somewhere in the future. There's so many stories you
could tell with these characters, so hopefully it'll
happen. So you said that your last scene
was the last one shot. I was wondering.
You did get your closure. You saw the cards and you knew

(39:32):
what you're dealing with and yougot to say your goodbyes.
You feel like. Yeah, then.
I I not only that I got to the last shot that was shot was the
drone shot of the space of a spaceship taking off and I went
and just watched the camera feedand so I got to watch the take

(39:57):
off and then waving goodbye. It's pretty great, man.
It was pretty amazing. I got to see the bird's eye view
of I'm headed back to my planet and it was beautiful.
It was beautiful. It was great.
And we've seen, you know, the cast has seen each other since
and we will continue to see eachother.

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So it's it's not an ending of ofus as people, it's just an
ending of. This, those characters for this
moment in time and that world that that playground, that
playground that was, that had sofew rules but somehow worked.
You know, I don't I can't, I can't stress another what an

(40:42):
achievement it is for Chris to have written a world where the
things that we were able to do were supported like that.
You would you could go along with these characters and it
wouldn't feel like a cop out that a beautiful that a that a
character could go from saying some really beautiful.

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I was thinking of this last season where Heather leaves and
the character he says some really beautiful things about.
I love you so much. I I'm not an alien anymore, and
you deserve someone who can appreciate everything about you.
You're too amazing to only be half understood.
I and that is just, Oh my God, that's so beautiful.

(41:24):
But it's said in a way where he's like, you know, you make me
sick. Well, if you throw up, we can
feed it to the children, we can make it work.
Grass me get straws trying to find that yeah, way to keep you
together. Yeah, we can feed your vomit to

(41:45):
the children. We can make this work.
And it's like through tears and it's ridiculous, but it's sad.
Like how do you try to create that world on on the page where
it actually where you maintain aalthough, you know, a skewed
reality, but a reality that you don't cross, you know, so that
you can you can stay funny and stay feel earned and you know,

(42:11):
and and make you cry and laugh. That's tough to do.
Well done, Chris. I brought the show up to several
people who haven't watched it yet and they go, what's it like?
And I, it's one of those impossible to describe because
you can't explain the comedy because people think would
think, they expect, you know, every, every aspect of it, from
the alien story to to the comedy, etcetera, etcetera.

(42:34):
People would think, oh, I've seen that before.
But no, there's nothing like it.There's little pieces of things
that you've seen elsewhere that right, That's, that's life.
But there's nothing that will beor has been resident alien until
now. Yes, thank you.
That's that's that's cool. That's really cool.
It's a one-of-a-kind. Yeah, man.

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Wow. Hop into just a little bit more
of your work and then we'll close out with some TV topics.
OK, You've got an Emmy nomination for your work on
Andor. Congratulations.
That's incredible. Thank you.
What was it like stepping back into your role of K2?
SO but also being recognized forit.
Oh man, it's really cool to be recognized for it.
I don't, I don't think I even thought of it that way.

(43:15):
Like hearing you say it that way.
It's it's it's probably even bigger than I've allowed myself
to accept. Yeah, you know, doing because it
is a it's a motion capture role and it's it's the the Emmy is
for voice over. So there's something about
motion capture that a lot of people don't know because we

(43:36):
understand motion capture through Andy Serkis and
everything he's taught us about it.
And there is a huge element of just plain voice over that
happens. It's you are a digital character
and in any editing situation, inany project where you have the
ability to have a manipulatable character in post, you're going

(43:59):
to manipulate them in post and say, hey, you know, we didn't
understand before the edit that we needed to really hammer this
point home. So that's on your character to
do that. So you come in after the fact
and do a lot of voiceover to tryto help shape the role.
But what it also allows you is achance to give also hate what
alternate lines and improv a little bit and fit in stuff that

(44:22):
can be fun and that's that's a huge part of voice over is
improv. And so doing I robot or not, I
robot jeez. Doing Rogue One as K2.
SO the Gareth Edwards directed he really allowed even on the
day a lot of improv. And so the character of K2 SO

(44:45):
was made in a fairly loose setting.
And I had so much fun in seeing who he who he was when the final
thing came together. Because you say the line that's
there and then you say, so I especially when you're digital,
you can do what you want kind ofas long as everybody's cool with

(45:07):
it, you know. And Diego Luna was the one who
had to had the worst of it because I would change my lines
on him. They would always say the same
thing so that he could, I would feed him something that he could
still respond with the line thathe had, but you know, he had to
deal with something new a lot ofthe time.
And and so in the edit is the character they put together your

(45:31):
character and Gareth chose a lotof the time, chose the options
that were the and there's a fresh one when you mouth off
again, if you mouth off again and like stuff that was just
like, I can't believe that's being said in a Star Wars movie.
And, you know, these, yes, theseare prisoners I'm going to
imprison, imprisoned as prisoners.

(45:53):
And he would he, he allowed for all of those.
You know, I'll be there for you,Jen.
Cassian said. I had to, you know, he let me
play. And then getting to do it again
was great because it was 10 years later.
And I loved, I love, I love the character of Cassian, the way

(46:16):
that K2, you know, and, and Diego, the way that K2 loves
Cassie and I, I should say. And so getting to work with him
again was just incredible. Also, the Star Wars universe,
they do things really well, you know, they do I, I can't think
of any other company, any other production company that would

(46:39):
allowed for Andor to be made. Look at that thing.
It's like this massive sci-fi political thriller that's
serious and and they wrote some things that came very true in
talking about authoritarian states.
So that, you know, this stuff was written back then being

(47:02):
filmed before it landed. By the time it's landing, it's
very prescient and and has you know, you're watching it going,
oh, that's hitting real close tohome.
I think it makes it a A and or is going to be a sci-fi show
that's forever on top ten list and hailed is one of the great
ones, like up there with 2001, like it did something like you

(47:26):
just said something I hadn't seen before.
It did something different, especially in the Star Wars
universe, something. It's almost like when we were
kids, we had Star Wars, the first three Star Wars, and that
was our Star Wars and we loved it.
And now we've grown up, and we were given Andor, which was the
grown up version of Star Wars that we could appreciate.
Yeah, the so much to tackle there.

(47:48):
But one thing is the you're kindof like the Raisin because you
said it is very, very serious. You're kind of the Raisin in
that dry. There's an old Polish bread with
my grandmother used to make, butlike, oh, that's great.
It's dry and crummy and like it an amazing show, but it's also

(48:09):
really serious. Then you have this like little
bit of humor, like where did this come from and why does it
work so well? And it just enhances everything
else around it. It's like, I didn't expect K2 SO
at all. And then when you got him, like,
oh, wait, thank God they broughthim in.
They and they were very good with not giving you too much.
They're very good at not like, OK, let's let's have him, you

(48:29):
know, have him be the sidekick telling jokes left and right.
But I thought just really spectacular.
But also the way this series plays out today and people
saying it's when did Star Wars get woke?
And like, you know, the things that they're saying here.
It's also it's very political. It's very much, I wouldn't say
it's predicting. It's kind of a cautionary tale
of what can happen. I'm like, my God, I wish they

(48:52):
would put this in colleges and high schools and have them watch
it and discuss it and and see, you know, like, because if you
put certain names to it, currentpolitical names, people cover
their ears. But I'm like, this is a great
show for people to see it from adifferent way.
And if they could see it and disconnect and not see it as

(49:12):
auster them. It has a lot, a lot to say and a
lot to like. I said again, it's a great
cautionary tale. Yeah, Tony Gilroy is a big lover
of history and this is and and it's such a test and or such a
testament to his how great he isas a writer that he was able to
translate what he knew through history into this.

(49:33):
And like you said, it is a cautionary tale, but I also
think sometimes it's an instruction manual.
OK, so how do we do it? Or we don't call.
Oh, OK. So you got to stay.
We're going to be fighting for future we never see.
OK, OK, so get ready. Let's see how it goes.
Yeah, especially knowing their fates.

(49:55):
Yeah, right. You know, this is, this is going
out there and being selfless andsaying there's something bigger
than me. It's something, you know what we
should do is it maybe slip DVD copies to all the senators and
congressmen and say you could dosomething for someone beside
yourself. You don't have to look at your
bank account or anything else. You don't have to win the next
election be be the guy in history who changed the world

(50:18):
who course corrected instead of sitting on their hands watching
as things go to hell. Yeah, yeah.
Got a whole lot of broken going on, yes.
So I've got dozens of other questions, but I'll be close out
with the TV topics. OK, so you grab your remote
control and a genie comes out and offers you this TV based
wish. What TV show do you want one
more season of? It could be a prequel, it could

(50:40):
be an extra season in the middle, it could be 1 tag down
to the end. It's a magic question, so
doesn't matter how much time is passed, you get to choose.
Easy peasy, Firefly. Come on.
Great answer. That was such a tragedy.
So I want a second season of Firefly, which means back then a
full season of television was 20episodes.
We only did 14. So when I get a second season of

(51:03):
episodes, I get the the other six of the first episode.
Thank you. Boom.
Jeannie has to get it, have to give it because of the rules of
how TV was back then. Alicia, we got serenity yes, it
didn't just disappear and then that's it.
You know, it's always going to be the UN, you know, unfinished
story. You got to right to continue it
a little bit, but I I definitelytake a whole other season or 4.

(51:25):
For those of you who haven't seen the end of Resident Alien,
it's not really a spoiler. Don't worry though, I don't die
in the final real. OK, just so you know, I don't
die unless they did something inVFX that I wasn't Privy to.

(51:45):
That'd be funny. I watch it, the ship blows up
that I take off and hey who did I piss off and.
It says the official end. No more.
Goodbye. This is done.
Yeah. Stop Dreaming, got the
commercial. And I love the idea of of going

(52:06):
back and revisiting like a show like that.
There's no reason it can't just start back up.
There's a whole other whole slewof adventures you can have,
especially when this season endsand you have, I'm sorry, I'm
going back into this, but you get to have these relationships
that that completely changed from where you were always
hiding yourself and now everyone's on board.

(52:27):
I'm like, I could use a whole season of everybody bike and
live and and everybody being a knowing your identity and going
yeah, right. I know, man, I know.
We'll see. Literally got a few episodes of
it. Yeah, let's see.
Let's see how it, let's see how the business shakes up, how it

(52:47):
goes, how it, how it settles. Because it's it's shaking now.
We just got to watch it settle. Yeah.
So how about a favorite theme song when you cannot skip?
Oh, it used to. Growing up, it was the fall guy.
Loved that theme song. I might fall from a tall
building. I might roll a brand new car.

(53:10):
A theme song. Oh, bosom buddies.
It's just Billy Joel's songs. What is that song?
It's some. I don't care what you say
anymore. I love that song.
I don't care what you say anymore.
This is my life. Go ahead with your own life.
Leave me alone. And they toss them the oranges

(53:31):
and boom, boom, boom, boom. Yeah, that.
That was a I think they played the whole damn song.
Yeah, that one. I could never skip that.
I love that song. Out on their folding chairs, sun
sunning in the in the park. Yeah, I guess.
I guess I'm a White Lotus. No offense to this last season,
which was a brilliant season, but the music from the one that

(53:52):
they did in Italy, that music was really good.
It was just a good creepy song. It's very good.
Stuff, Yeah, the Puzzle Buddies.Oh yeah, that's, that's a
classic and it's all that show, that song.
I mean, I don't like the show, but that song is kind of like
another tier of quality like that, that great song for Buffy

(54:17):
and Hildegard. But it was my introduction, so I
I'll take it. Yeah, I, I don't think the show
ever came up to the song. I don't think it met the the
quality of the song like that. We got to meet Tom Hanks for
crime and his sakes, and that's he's a national treasure.
So Oh yes, what about ATV death that you could stop if you
could? ATV death.

(54:38):
I mean, I died in Serenity. See, I keep going back to
Firefly. I would take away that death.
I boy. ATV, Death.
You could sit on this one and then see if it pops up OK.
OK. One question you brought up Mork
and Mindy. Yeah.
It didn't. The ending of that series was
them going in, trying to avoid some villain and then going

(55:03):
through time and disappearing, right?
They were like, I think there were cave drawings and that was
it was at the end of the series that sounds.
Somewhat. Familiar.
Yes, I'm going to say yes. That was the end of the series.
Kind of heavy for Mark and Mindy, but OK.
Yeah, right. How about your favorite?
Finale. Ever There's a finale that was
never shot? Let me get a Firefly.

(55:25):
I did OK. No, no, no, no, I did.
AI did a pilot that that never saw the light of day with the
same art artistic team that madeVeronica's closet.
And they had pitched and fought for a finale of Veronica getting

(55:48):
into an elevator, getting into the elevator that she's gone
into that in her apartment building, whatever.
And she presses down and then suddenly it's going and it's
going and she, she ends up and going way, way far down.
And then the doors open and it'shell.
And she goes, Oh my God, am I dead?

(56:09):
Is this hell? And they say, no, this is just,
this is the hell for cancelled shows or something like that.
And it's, it's all of these actors from cancelled shows over
the years. There's who was what?
You talk about Willis, He's there.
Gary Coleman. Yeah, Gary Coleman is sitting

(56:30):
there like just all these peoplefrom as many actors from old TV
shows sitting around a table eating and she's there and she's
like, oh, we're just cancelled. And then that would be the end
of the show. And they wouldn't let him do
that. So but that would have been a
really that would have been a very memorable one.
There was 1, I don't remember the name of the show where a guy
and he it was like a will they won't they with him and his.

(56:52):
It was a sitcom and this is in the 80s.
I want to say he and his maid were kind of like, are they
going to, I don't know. They're so right for one
another, but they're she's helping him raise the kids and
that kind of thing. And they decide finally they're
going to get together and they're going to go on a
vacation together. And they get on the plane.

(57:13):
They leave the it's like the setis of a getting a gate at an
airport. They get onto the plane and then
they come off looking at their tickets and the people who are
waiting to say goodbye. Go.
What? Wait, what happened?
What happened? Did the was the flight
cancelled? And they go, no, the show was.
And they all turn and they wave at the camera, and the camera

(57:33):
pulls back and that's the end ofthe show.
I like that. I have no idea what that is.
I married Dora came to mind. It was, but I don't that's I
married Dora as in the title so that wouldn't make sense.
Right, he didn't. He didn't marry her till the
very end. And they they.
Yeah, I have to look that it wasthey.
Yeah. I love acknowledging that
they're cancelled, which is kindof what we did with Resident

(57:56):
Alien. It's an ending, you know, which
I'm glad it didn't end at the end of Season 3 because there
were so many cliffhangers that it would have been very
dissatisfying. Oh.
Yeah, it would have been real shame.
Yeah, I like season 3, but the shortened, you know, the IT was
a shortened season wasn't. It Yeah, because of the Yeah.
8:00 Because of the strikes. It seemed like Season 4 Part A,

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right? Right.
Right. Without the the season 4, we got
it. It just would never would have
been satisfying. The great thing is is now that
you do have, even if it's not where you want the the book to
end, you have the closing chapter.
We can watch it as a whole and we can wait for that 30 episode
season. Whatever.
Oh, no, I'm sorry, that's Firefly.
I'm sorry, I'm missing together stories, but still, I'll take a

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30 episodes. How about the greatest moment in
TV history according to Alan Tudyk?
The greatest moment in TV history.
It's easy. When it switched to color, I
don't know what what would you? What is yours.
Maybe I'll get a sense of this when you tell me yours.

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I don't know, I, I always go back to the the finale of
Sopranos just because of how everyone, how much it instantly
affected everybody and people are online going nuts and, and,
and people still talk about it, but there are others.
I will say if it if it's, yeah, I guess Breaking Bad had a

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finale. I mean, Breaking Bad.
Oh, Breaking Bad. Breaking Bad was so very good
and I found the finale so satisfying.
Where Sopranos, I found it less than entirely satisfying.
You can still go back in question and talk about it and
that that is one side of successthat it, it still engages the
audience in that way. But man, at the end, he's dying

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and he's looking at A at a, a cook.
They're cooking math and he's looking at and he's tapping the
things and he's like, he's that.He's happy there.
And then he dies. That was so good.
God, that was good and satisfying.
Yeah. It's amazing TV.
Did you watch Better Call Saul as well?

(01:00:10):
I, I did, but I got screwed up because it kept, I was watching
it somewhere when I had cable and then it would come to
Netflix and then found that season and then I didn't know
which season was which. And so I've missed the last like
2-3 seasons. Oh.
And the last? Two or three seasons are where
it that's where it really takes off.
I think season 3 is when it it clicks.

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I actually think it might be better than Breaking Bad because
their ability to go back in to dive into Breaking Bad and not
just do it as a novelty and expand on the Breaking Bad story
and the characters and Saul in such a way that you were like
this universe just suddenly completely meshes and, and to
make it a stand alone and, and it's just insanely good TV.

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I would go back, make sure you you squeeze that in.
Yes. Oh, absolutely.
If you had a magic door, one that allowed you to access and
live in one TV show, popping in and out whenever you want so you
don't have to give up your real life, that life pauses.
You walk in the door, you come out, that life returns.
Which would it be and why? Oh my God, which TV show would I
go in and out of? And.

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You're not just like an observer.
You can be living in that, you know that environment, talking
to the characters. Yeah.
So they'd have to be good, well drawn characters.
Else you want to kill him. Like if you ended up in in in
like Gilligan's Island, you'd belike, I'm I'm murdering
Gilligan, I've got to murder. It would have to be called
murdering Gilligan on his islandbecause he screws up everything.

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That guy, God bless him. And it's not Hogan's Heroes.
I want to live in World War 2. Why?
I'm so stuck in the past. Game of Thrones?
Hell no. What?
Some God? Nope, not that one.

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Twilight Zone? Nope, don't want that.
Gosh, just a lot of things I don't want.
I could live in the fake New York of Friends where you have
huge apartments and not too manycares in the world.
I think I would also go crazy there.

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I'd say Firefly, except that wassome hard living.
But I get to come in and come out.
I'll go to Firefly. I'm about to Firefly.
I had a feeling it was going to go back to Firefly, but hey, why
not I'm. Going to Firefly.
Anyone who has not watched Firefly go find it.
OK, yeah, go check it out. It's been out for 20 years plus.

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All right, Joel, thank you so much for your time.
You're an amazing guest. Thank you for your work over the
seasons. And and like I said, your your
career of amazing work that I had a lot of fun exploring an
IMDb and realizing, Oh shit, that was you all along.
So thank you so much. I I do appreciate it and I and.
This has been great. Thank you.
Thank you very much. I appreciate it.

(01:03:13):
Thank you. I'm glad you liked resonating so
much. I really.
Appreciate it. I love, absolutely loved it.
So thank you. Thank you.
Thanks so much for Alan Tudic for being my guest on the show.
Be sure to check out his work onResident Alien.
You can find that now streaming on Peacock.
Also check out his Emmy nominated work on Andor.
You can find that at Disney Plusand of course, check out

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