June 16, 2023 • 36 mins
Welcome to another episode of TV Topics. Host Steven Prusakowski is your TV guide, walking you through the TV landscape along with co-host Abe Friedtanzer.
You will know this episode's guest star from her work on Showtime's Yellowjackets, as the 1990s Wednesday Addams, Marilyn Thornhill on Netflix's Wednesday, Buffalo 66, Black Snake Moan, Sleepy Hollow and much, much more. Of course, it's the incredible CHRISTINA RICCI. She sits on the TV Topics couch as we bounce around her TV time from her favorite primetime show as a kid, to her TV guilty pleasure, what show she would like to live in and much more. Christina had some golden answers.
Plus we take a break from her trip down TV memory lane to deep dive into her must-watch work as the survivor you can never predict as the adult Misty Quigley on Yellowjackets. It is a fascinating conversation that dives deep into the Misty behind the glasses and curls. (Warning: spoilers ahead.)
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Hey, where's the remote? It's time for TV topics where
those who love television discuss the series and
performances that should be on your radar.
Hey everyone, welcome back to the TV topics podcast.
I'm your host, Stephen Pearcy Kowski.
Along with me, today is my special guest host, you know,
him from the verse podcast, it'sLucas Longacre.
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Hello, glad to be here. And by the way, Lucas, do you
know where the remote is remote?Mmm.
Thank you. I found that it was in the
microwave for some reason. See, dang, it always lose that
thing. It's going to smell like
popcorn. Now, ya burnt popcorn.
All right? Well better make some room on
the TV topics couch, because sharing it today is one of my
favorite actresses. She told quite the family tail
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with share and mermaids. She made Wednesday Addams
creepy, kooky spooky and The Addams Family, he's currently
starring as a quirky and slightly unhinged Misty quickly
on Showtime's Yellow Jackets. It's the one, it's the only it.
Exceptional. Christina Ricci welcome to the
TV topics couch. Christina.
Hi, thanks so much for having me.
Well, thank you so much for being here before we get into
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your work on yellow, jackets andmore.
I want to hop into our TV topic segment and again, no pressure
at all. There's no right?
Answers is no wrong answers. It's just about having fun away,
we go. My first question, what was your
relationship with TV? When you look back over the
years, where your TV, Junkie whowatches everything or you're
very selective, I really loved. Vision in my 20s and 30s.
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I think before I had kids are being my favorite thing to do is
to stay inside and watch TV all day long.
I watched all kinds of differenttelevision.
Yeah, what type of shows did youwatch?
Well, I would watch different things for different reasons.
I've always liked like, you know, like I was a big lost fan.
I was a huge X-Files fan, I liked procedurals.
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I really liked all of the Law and Order shows.
I also really loved like the HP like HBO or the HBO shows like
ours and stuff like that and then I would watch Deadliest.
Catch was big credit, Deadliest Catch and Top Chef and those
kinds of Thanks. Well you watched you covered a
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wide spectrum. Yeah but I'm a really big right
now. I really really love.
Well, I love it and it's like five kids so it's family
friendly. But I like like the reality
shows I like the most her or notso must his to Let's Top Chef
and British Bake Off but I really love Life Below Zero and
all those like survivalist showsmy son, especially enjoys naked
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and afraid, that's courage. Yeah, TVs great to share.
I mean when Today was a show that I got to share with my
daughters. It was a little dark and scary
but they were as soon as they saw the opening credits are like
we have to watch this and they were hooked ever since.
So it's a good communal experience.
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So what is it Prime Time show that you would consider defined
your childhood? Like the one that stands out
when you look back? Well the Golden Girls was my
favorite TV show when I was a little kid.
There was like it was for Fridaynight TV was like I remember, I
remember I think it was empty nest and then they'd have to
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Golden Girls and then Hunter wason and Hunter.
Yeah, really. Enjoyed Hunter and my sister.
And I, we just watched that Friday night together that like
Friday night TV slate, every Friday with my parents would go
out for dinner or whatever. So yeah, that was very defining.
What was the golden girl you most identified with?
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I like, Sophia the most, you're the best way.
What was it about her? Oh, I don't know.
I just liked her the most. I don't remember what the
attitude. Steve of course, you don't have
to have a reason, just curious what show makes you laugh.
The most, if there's a show thatyou just put on 24 pick me up or
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quick laughs, which one is it? God, I can't think of one.
I don't know that I watch any comedies right now.
No, I don't think I do. Nothing at all?
No, I then we'll go with Golden Girls.
How about that? Yeah.
Does it still hold up for you, Golden Girls?
I like it, but I find it a little bit like it's a little
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too much with my childhood so itmakes me feel a little sad and
depressed. Sometimes, stop looking back,
especially when you have these characters are these actors and
characters that you love so muchand then you realize, oh, wait,
time has passed. They are, they're not here or
they don't work any longer and yeah.
It's a little sad to realize howmany people are dead.
Exactly. Do you know that that kind of
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transitions into the next question.
What was the last show that madeyou cry?
It's the last show that maybe cry.
Oh my gosh. I know books that made me cry.
What was less TV show that baby crying.
Oh my God, I can't think of one.It doesn't have to be reasonable
or it could just be a memorable Pride to something that touched
you from a television series. A TV show.
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Is that was really sad. Oh my God, my brain is blank.
I'm sorry, I can't think of anything that's all right.
The problem is that I have an 18month olds and an
eight-year-old. And so I never really get to
watch anything adult cry during the end of cocoa.
The Disney movie we have that onin the house all the time.
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Yeah, that's a tough one. That one I didn't expect it.
It's so sweet and sad. Yeah, that last like 10 minutes
or the show though, it really, it lands and it sticks.
You forever, it also treat, it'sabout death, that whole show and
it really treats it in a very adult way that's accessible.
I mean for kids it's beautifullydone.
Hmm. And what about guilty pleasures
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or television? So that people may be surprised.
You love I like reality TV like a bit of the Real Housewives of
Beverly Hills and just recently I prefer happen to catch the
Vanderpump Rules reunions so nowI haven't had them.
It's that was like a week ago and I haven't been able to do
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it, but I plan on getting to watch some of this season of
Vanderpump Rules because everybody keeps talking about
it, but I'm constantly with my eight year old so it's tough.
Let's switch channels a little bit and talk about some of your
recent work on yellow jackets. Actually, before we do that,
let's hop back. Even further.
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I'm just curious. How you got into acting was
there a family influence or something like that?
That kind of started this path. I was, I was almost eight and I
was in like a Christmas Pageant.And one of the other kids
mothers who already had her son.Working suggested to my mom that
I do it. I'm the youngest of four kids.
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So I so, every single child in my family was, like, scouted at
some point. My mother always said, no.
Because she had been a model from a very young age and then,
but then when they When I was approached, my siblings were
older and so they were able to sort of they condense my mother
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to let me try it. Basically.
And once you tried it, what was your reaction?
Well, I really loved it. I loved being away from home.
I love staying in hotels. I loved being assets and having
something that I was good at andthat sort of made me special at
a young age. So I really loved it a lot.
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I even like auditing, you know, I'm going to the city to
audition got me and my mother out of our house for like three
to four hours every day and thatwas great.
That's like a superpower if you like auditioning.
Well, I had a really troubled home life.
So just to be able to get out ofthe house and concentrate on
something else was really great at that time.
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You don't even have to explain to me, I was a latchkey kid.
Any excuse to get out? Was like, the best reason.
Yeah, I was one of six. I wouldn't say it was a troubled
home life, but I was kind of theinvisible one.
Well, that's not that much therapy.
Begins. Anyone anyone have a tissue is
I'm going to start crying, I think so.
And then when you continued on what, what carry you through?
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Actually I'm sorry. Let me go back a bit was acting.
What? First time had you on an
airplane? That's always a big thing for a
kid. Yeah.
Yeah. Well, I flew when I was a baby
but the first time I could remember, flying was.
Yeah, I went to LA to do an American Express.
Commercial when I was eight. I remember the first time taking
off and that experience. Yeah, I was very excited.
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It was really fun and then I started flying all the time and
I still remember those flights. They were really, I've always
loved traveling, I love flying when I was a kid.
So speaking of flying we have Misty whose flight experiences
are not that great. She's won hands down.
One of the most original and oneof my favorite characters in
television, I'm wondering what was the pitch that they gave you
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for the Character. And what did you want to bring
to her? Well, originally, it was, you
know, we only had the pilot and I missed, you only has one scene
in the pilot where she gets offended by one of her elderly
patients because she works in the nursing home and then ends
up being abusive to the elderly patient.
And I would, I would I just loved it.
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See and I thought it was so wellwritten.
And it was so concise and reallyinformative and communicated so
much about the pettiness and Thesmallness of this woman.
And, and I thought that was fascinating.
I, you know, I am very interested in human behavior and
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people like this people, this Petty, I find really
fascinating. And then when I met with them,
they kind of just just just talked about how they wanted her
to be, you know, that they wanted her to be the kind of
compared her to Get the care. I forget the woman's name, but
in Wild Wild Country, the woman who ended up running.
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So it was it like, Sonja, the woman who ends up running the
Colts for the guru. She was an Indian woman, but
there was something about her where she was.
So you could tell she was like, really devious and she didn't
these horrible things, very manipulative.
But she was also just like adorable and charming, and
really fun and they wanted her to be like that.
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I mean, I, Of that Misty. Is it just allows you to
finally, like, with your comedy Wings, just like fly and I was
just curious. Like, how do you built kind of
the funny little quirks into that character, especially in
like the musical sensory deprivation tank and in the last
episode, can you just kind of maybe get into how you approach
building that character? Well, I realize that she was
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supposed to be funny until we got to shooting a second episode
and then then I realized that She was being written for comedy
and I just I for me, it was veryimportant that this character
feel real and be grounded. And I didn't want her to be too
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over-the-top or like cartoonish.And so, I really play her I try
to play her. I try to play against the
comedy, that's written. Almost edit ends up working out.
I mean, people seem to still think she's funny but for me
it's much more important that everything she does make sense
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and follows logic and it's Justified.
So and I'm not a very conscious actor.
So I didn't really realize. I was doing any physical,
anything different until people started pointing it out watching
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the show. I think, you know what, I play a
character. I just become a different
person. So, and that means, that means
my physicality changes dependingon the, like, I guess the energy
of the character and you see they, having be having a lot of
fun with her like, especially inthat musical episode.
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Oh yes, she is really funny. He's really fun to do the
musical episode. I think in general, she's really
fun to play. It's fun to play somebody who
really doesn't have any respect for societal rules.
She's so immature as well and stunted and she can't really
control. She's either like overly
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controls herself or can't control herself at all.
And those extremes are really fun to play as well.
And it just gets you do a lot ofthings that I know better than
to do in real life as Sita. So this kind of fun at the
viewer, that's the appealing, I really don't know what is going
to happen with Missy from scene to scene and there's yes you can
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be very funny there's times where she's very scary like you
just like you worried that something bad is going to happen
because of her. And I think you like I think a
lot of that may be why people love like watching her the same
way, because I like playing her sort of like, escapism, you
know, wish-fulfillment getting to act.
In a way that we absolutely cannot behave.
So, I think a lot of people feelthe same kind of frustration and
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rage that Misty feels, and so, it's sort of fun and vindicating
to watch somebody else, like, get, get their revenge on
people. And, and reacts in a way that
we're not able to there's so many different sides to her.
Is there one is? Which ones real do?
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You know, do you have other all real, all of her?
Sides are real like even when she is super passive-aggressive
and it's like fake Pleasant to people.
That's still real, that's how she expresses her rage.
So I don't know that. I don't know that she is capable
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of true artists, you know. But everything you see I think
is real for her interesting to see.
I did gotta watch a little differently.
Because I kind of go into the, she's got something, you know,
things turning behind the facade, The Smiling percent.
Well, absolutely absolutely, shedoes.
But all I'm saying is there's nothing fake about the fact that
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when she's angry or in a situation that makes her
uncomfortable. She goes to like extreme
pleasantry, you know, and to passive aggression like that's a
real coping mechanism. That's a real method of
expression. So I don't think she has enough.
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I don't think analyzes herself enough to come up with like a
truly fake persona. I spoke with Sammy earlier to
play as the younger Misty and she a very interesting
backstory. Did you create a backstory for
your character? Is that part of your process?
I did not because I find with television the less, the less
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sort of ownership, you feel of her character, the Better
because you don't own the character, you know, this is
these you know, TV is a writer'smedium and they have completely
complete and total control over the character.
What the character does, how thecharacter changes and the
characters backstory. So I have in the past created
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backstories for characters on TVand then had to play a
completely different backstory and that can be sort of like it
just doesn't feel good when thathappens.
So I really Try to like, with television, I try to dress beak
be as open-ended as TV is reallyand try to play.
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Try to focus more on the behaviors of the character, then
on any past, or present, or rules kind of.
I mean, I absolutely adore the relationship between Misty and
Walter played by Elijah Wood andI seriously could watch a
spin-off of just, the two of them, like solving Mysteries,
like these two homicidal. All detectives but so what is it
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like working with Elijah and howdo you think having Walter in
her life? Now has changed Misty's
worldview. I love working with Liza.
He's so fun, and he's so talented, and he's so good, you
know, and his scenes are really fun to play.
We both are kind of vibing and and on the same page and same
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Pace even and I think that Walter has really given Misty
For the First Time, like kind ofnormal Stakes relatable Stakes.
Certainly, I don't know that, you know, I never imagined Misty
has Having such relatable steaksto me, she always seemed like
such an extreme character that anything that she would never be
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and, like, a quote unquote, normal sort of situation or be
dealing with, like, normal issues.
But what was interesting is bye-bye.
Bye-bye, Walter being in her life, they season when she went
into the last couple episodes episodes of the show, I think
she reacted to what went on in those last episodes a lot.
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Let different lot more lat. Wow, I can't speak today a lot
more differently. A lot more differently.
That sounds completely wrong to me, but I'm gonna go with it.
She reacted a lot more differently then then I think
she would have had Walter not been a part of her life, you
know, I think with the whole ritual in the card game and the
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hunt, I think, if he had not been in her life, then she would
have been like, oh great, we're doing this again.
This sounds Fun. Like I like thrilled but because
she all of a sudden it's something to lose the idea of
risking any of that of her potential, like the poison, when
the poison comes into play and she's like, no way.
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Am I gonna die now? And then and then I think that
carries through to the hunt as well.
She's, you know, for she's sort of finally has like something
very meaningful to live for. And I think before that, that
just kind of a total nihilist ina lot of ways.
It was great to see him return ever have Misty and Walter back
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together because I wasn't sure it didn't seem like it was going
to happen but just based on likewhere you were in the story and
to see them come back, it was like this is it was just a big
picking me up in a series that has a lot of emotional ups and
downs. Why is it thinks the I thought
seeing him do his work, his magic and come up with a whole
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plan and execute it and watchinghim.
Watch and Elijah and Warren worktogether was so fun and just
like the biggest born called found.
So I thought there's these were so fun and it's really fun being
Walters a great character, and Elijah is so great in the show.
So, yeah, it was really fun to watch him in those final
episodes. Yeah, it's rare.
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When you can bet when you could pair up to Great characters like
that though and have them, it's like peanut butter and jelly
just just wonderful to watch what is Misty's, endgame.
It seems she's looking for acceptance and I'm just curious.
How far she will go to be accepted?
Well, I mean, I feel like at this point, she has this
compulsion to always like tried and to have a friend or see if
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people will accept her, but I think it's also kind of a weird
like that. I think it's also sort of
expressed in sort of a hostile way.
She knows she's going to be rejected but it says weird like
compulsive need to just keep doing this thing just like what
follows afterwards. The self-destruction and they
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like doing the wrong thing to the new quote unquote friend.
I think all that is very like it's just her sort of, I don't
want to say, it's just like her mom, her mode of operation, you
know, and the cycle that she always goes through the keeps
her in the same place. So I think she has that
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compulsion. I think you know, I don't think
her life has been very fun or full Since they were rescued,
she has a really strong bond to the other survivors and I think
it's the one time she actually did belong to some group.
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So, I think she has just this this need to to preserve that
group in a lot of ways. Yeah, you mentioned lost earlier
and one of the things that is similar to me about this show
and loss is The Ensemble. I mean, you have Melanie lynskey
of Tony Cypress. You Juliette Lewis.
I mean, plus like all the younger versions, so, what does
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that Dynamic light on step with,just all this, like, incredible
group of actors. It's really fun.
You know, I have to say, we havelike, the most incredible
younger cast. They're so good.
And they're watching their scenes with do they were just,
there were so incredible. And unfortunately, we don't get
to work with them ever, so, you know, that's a bummer, but we
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had so many. We had a lot of time together,
all the adults or the older cast, because the younger cast
our adults also, but we had a lot of time together and it was
really fun, you know? Just like all five of us was its
or, is it six of us? I think six of us, right?
Six, I think six. Yeah, I was born.
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I've been saying five I'll presscycle.
Oops. The six of us just like you
know, working we worked nights, we worked crazy hours but just
all hanging out in a tent like, because I was our green room
and, you know, getting like silly at 3 a.m. and suffering
together and laughing together and working together.
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And really this Caster so amazing and just cares.
I don't think I've ever worked on a show where the cast
everybody on the cast like genuinely cares so much about
the show. And wants it to be so good and
put so much into their performance.
And really put so much like pressure on themselves.
Like we we all really take it very seriously.
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So it's interesting to be in a group like that, it's really fun
and it's really rewarding. It must be a joy to, though.
Since you do not actually get towork with them to sit back and
watch that performance after andsee the other side of the story
unfold. It is fun, it is really fun.
And, you know, because so much well for me, I put so much focus
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on my performance and my storyline and all that stuff
that sometimes I'm so focused onmy stuff that I don't really
absorb what they're going to be doing when I read the scripts as
much as maybe I should or some of the other actors do, so,
whatever. I watched the episodes, I'm
always like, oh, I like, I feel like a real audience member, who
didn't know that was going to happen kind of thing.
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I know I do but so right there. Great.
It's a great way to watch thingsbecause it's, you know, takes
period also, but you really truly get to experience it for
the first time with the music and all the, in the editing and
everything that goes into reading on the, on the pages.
One, it's so funny to like we shoot scenes, you don't even
seem to your, in end up completely different with the
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way, they edit things. And the music they put in and
all the visual effects and all that stuff.
So it's always kind of fun. It's always really fun and
interesting, and surprising to watch the episodes even your own
scenes. That's great.
And this season ended in the most shocking of ways, what was
it like shooting? What seems to be this?
The end of the road for Juliette, Lewis has a cast mate.
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Was it tough? It was awful.
It was just awful. I hated that day so much.
I think we are. Well, I hated it.
I think. Juliet hated it.
I know a lot of I think Tawny hated it.
I know a lot of us hated it. It was we shot that scene on the
last day of shooting for the season, so it Is awful because
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it for many reasons, one of them, being that it was Julia,
that that it was this horrible, emotional kind of goodbye.
But then also, because it was the last day of the season, so
everybody who didn't have to cryand SOB wanted to take selfies
together and hug and laugh and give presents.
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And it's like when you're doing those kinds of scenes, the
energy and mood, and quiet and focus.
Is really necessary. And that was just almost
impossible to get and but what was really amazing as Caron
kasama, who directed it and is my favorite favorite director
for this show. She kind of really allowed me
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and Juliet to say, you know, that one point I was able to go
up to her and just say that we have to do this now because I
can, I'm not going to be able togive this performance as we
continue and people get Sillier and more like, oh, goodbye I
love you. Look at this.
You know, I was like we got to do now and she was great.
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She was like a great. Let's go and let's do it.
Now. We'll do the, you know, we'll do
all the coverage and everything.So that was really helpful.
It sounds like you're at a funeral and the rest of the cast
was at a graduation. No, I wouldn't say that.
I mean, they also had to be upset and everything, but it was
just I think I had put a lot more pressure on myself for it
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because they knew was such a huge.
Moment and and everything but that it was also just like
really devastating and very sad and you know, we've all grown so
close and I just, I really love Juliet so much and it's I'm
upset that the show is going to go on without her, you know.
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Yeah, all those things I teared up that during a thousand would
Steve had was the last one. I'm like I don't know if I was
the last one. I turned up on but I definitely
got a little sad watching that one.
Yeah. It's you're giving me the chills
just talking about it because I same thing I was like, what?
No, no, this is not How This Ends.
We are not happy mysterious endings, not deaf.
I know, I know it was really sad.
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I think I cried when I watched the episode 2 and we're not
alone that this online reaction has been amazing.
Just how much it has affected people, which is great.
But they're also like, dammit Misty, how do you possibly, you
know, hit the wrong person. I saw a lot of people.
Some people were commenting on some of my posts.
Like, how Christie's going to hell?
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Or how could she have done this?It's like, but the whole point
is, it's an accident. Yeah, actually, I mean Juliet
sacrifices. So anyway, literally, its
Natalie Natalie sacrifices herself to protect her.
You see it in her face. You see it in your injury action
in Misty's defense? She did not mean to kill her.
Yeah, yeah. People have to look at the
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context because your reaction you can see Devastation forget
forget I'm as fast as I drop things everywhere.
I could totally see you accidentally plunging.
Somebody in the arm with the it jumps in front of needle.
So it's not like there was no chance in hell for Misty.
The we'll work it out. Yeah.
I think what Luke is saying is, don't give him a vial of poison.
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It's not going to end. No, definitely not do not.
I'm gonna fall. So it would not trust myself.
So there's been some huge news about a special episode coming
between Seasons, two and three fans are dying to hear more.
Is there anything you can tell us about it?
You know, I am terrified to speak about things without
having been prepped, by the showtime team, because I don't
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feel like, I'm not sure what I'msupposed to say or not.
Say so I can't say anything. Are you excited for it?
How about that? Will go real broad?
Yeah, I am really excited for it.
I'm excited for it. I can't wait to see it.
I know no very much. I mean, I haven't seen obviously
haven't seen the episode, so I'mbut I'm looking forward to it
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and you don't have to answer if you know.
But do you know the timing? It's, you know, when this were
the same, no, I don't know. Okay.
All right. Sorry fans, you're going to have
to wait for another few weeks until she gets prepped.
If you want, you can go make a phone call real quick and come
back. I will wait.
We have time for that. I believe I have a heart out so
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as Steve mentioned of the beautyof the podcast, like we've been
fans of yours since, you know, way back in the day.
I mean, I've seen you in small. Any Productions multi-million
dollar Hollywood, Blockbusters television podcast video games.
So like, where's your happy place?
Is there any like project that you haven't tackled yet?
You love to try. You know, I just want to keep
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making that really varied work, things that I feel passionate
about feels that are things thatare challenging things, that
really feel like worth it. And yeah that's that's kind of
it. Yeah, I love I'm not personally
like I consume all types of media and I think kind of that's
people's habits these days. So like why not?
(29:40):
Write like tackle it all? Yeah, yeah, I'm trying to.
I think there's a few things. I don't like doing that.
Go really don't like doing bookson tape.
Reading books on tape. No crying.
I did it once. And I was like, well, this is
this is terrible. I hate this.
That's one form of content. I don't want to do, but I can't
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say anything else, really? I don't like singing and dancing
so I definitely They don't want to do it in musicals so I can
only tell you things. I don't want to do does that
translate to karaoke though? Are you not a fan of karaoke?
I like karaoke but that's not really like no.
That's just having fun with yourfriends.
Yeah, I was just going to say mymy fandom goes back to mermaids.
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I saw that in the theater and then it's why it's great to see
when you see something, you likegreat performance and then to
see them pop up again. Then you're like Wednesday and
then You're Here There and Everywhere.
And for was a three decades now.I've been following all the
amazing career choices, you've been making and it's been a
blast. Thank you so much and you
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recently stepped back into the world of Addams Family.
So what was that? Like going back to the property?
You haven't visited since you'rea kid.
You know, it was really fun. I was really excited to be
asked. I love Tim Burton.
I loved working with him when I was younger and I'm just such a
fan of his As you know, an audience member you know, some
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of my favorite films are movies he's made so I was really
excited to be working with him. You know I love I love the
world. I have a lot of nostalgia for
all of it and sentiments and it was really fun and it also felt
like a totally different thing, you know, it didn't feel like
the movies I made so it didn't really feel it felt like going
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on to just a new project. Something different in a lot of
Boys. Yeah, the tones are very
different between the two. Yeah.
Yeah, as I mentioned, I watched it with my daughters and we were
lucky because I get some Early Access so we get to see it
before the whole world. Did we watched it?
And they're like telling they want to tell their friends but
the friends wouldn't understand.So same thing that happened with
(31:53):
Lucas. They came back to her like did
you watch Wednesday yet that? Yeah, we watched it a month ago
but that's been everybody loves it.
Like my mother-in-law sat with me and watched it and she's
like, what's this show? Where can I find this?
It's amazing that the reach Of the audience that it that it
connected. Yeah, definitely pretty rare.
Yeah. So let me close out this portion
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with just a really easy one. Three words to describe Misty,
amateur vindictive and Charming.Love it.
Mmm, it'll be on her tombstone. Doubt it I think he's a Survivor
but yeah. Well yeah, but I don't know how
to put Survivor in there withoutmaking it sounds like that.
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You have a tombstone? No, you're right.
All the other characters who doesn't like a fun survivors,
you know what I mean? Like, one of the things I love
about her, as well as she even know.
She's probably very, very, very unhappy.
She sort of has this, like, hyper-vigilant need to be happy.
And so, she creates her own fun.And is able to have, like,
really good time. And any situation and to me,
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that's like a true survivor. You know, you didn't just
physically get through, but you're able to get yourself
through emotionally. We and and mood-wise in any
situation and I really love. I love people like that.
And so I it's one of the things I really love about her.
I'm say there's a part of her that is so compelling and that's
(33:20):
it. Where I do like to think there's
a part of me. That's similar, right?
That's like you're in this mess anyway.
You might as well enjoy it. Yeah.
But she doesn't ever expect anyone else to make it fun.
So she's going to do it for yourself.
Yeah, I think so. I was going to ask this
question. It just popped up and you as
you're answering. Would you like to hang out with
her? No, probably not.
No. I mean, she's there.
She's really I don't think she doesn't mean to be a dangerous
(33:46):
person but I think she just so doesn't follow the same rules of
morality or a society that she'sdangerous because she is capable
of things that we just would never consider doing.
Yeah. She's a she's a bit much and it
would all you'd always have to be on.
You can't just like, hey you want to have a brownie?
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Maybe not want. You know how about this tea?
No, no mushrooms. So that was wonderful and it's
really great to explore your work and close out with this a
couple more TV topics and get you on your way what classic or
modern TV character. Would you have liked to have
played? Or would you like to play in the
future? Well, I mean I was a huge
(34:29):
X-Files fan so, but I also put that's hard because usually love
a character because the actor did such a great job.
So I probably wouldn't have beenas good.
A scout of a Scully but I love Scully.
Maybe a different version. Yeah.
Okay. Ed final one if you could live
in one TV show forever but you can pop in and pop out whenever
you want. So you see your family that that
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all continues, which one would it be and why?
Well I mean succession has some really beautiful production
design and luxurious apartments and great clothes so you know,
maybe for that, that's funny. That's a second time in a row,
(35:11):
nobody has been The answer. Yeah, I said well that your
question, what would you be and why would be the Golden Girls is
how I thought you were asked that question, our last guests
Christa Miller said that she loved to do it just skip all the
meetings though and go straight to the airplanes and the and the
great location. So I would just be going on
vacation and living in the apartments and shopping.
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Excellent. Well thank you so much for
hanging out on the TV topics couch.
It's been an absolute pleasure. Thank you.
We look forward to watching. Watching the bonus episode of
course and everything else you do.
Thank you so much and I'm so excited that people enjoyed this
season. You know.
We put a lot of a lot of ourselves into it so it's really
great. Thank you so much.
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It's been a blast speaking with you.
Thank you. Bye guys, thanks so much bye.
Be sure to watch Christina's work on Showtime's yellowjacket
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And the big shout out to Emily. A you for our funky theme song
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Hey, where's the remote? It's time for TV topics where
those who love television discuss the series and
performances that should be on your radar.
Hey everyone, welcome back to the TV topics podcast.
I'm your host, Stephen Pearcy Kowski.
Along with me, today is my special guest host, you know,
him from the verse podcast, it'sLucas Longacre.
(00:24):
Hello, glad to be here. And by the way, Lucas, do you
know where the remote is remote?Mmm.
Thank you. I found that it was in the
microwave for some reason. See, dang, it always lose that
thing. It's going to smell like
popcorn. Now, ya burnt popcorn.
All right? Well better make some room on
the TV topics couch, because sharing it today is one of my
favorite actresses. She told quite the family tail
(00:48):
with share and mermaids. She made Wednesday Addams
creepy, kooky spooky and The Addams Family, he's currently
starring as a quirky and slightly unhinged Misty quickly
on Showtime's Yellow Jackets. It's the one, it's the only it.
Exceptional. Christina Ricci welcome to the
TV topics couch. Christina.
Hi, thanks so much for having me.
Well, thank you so much for being here before we get into
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your work on yellow, jackets andmore.
I want to hop into our TV topic segment and again, no pressure
at all. There's no right?
Answers is no wrong answers. It's just about having fun away,
we go. My first question, what was your
relationship with TV? When you look back over the
years, where your TV, Junkie whowatches everything or you're
very selective, I really loved. Vision in my 20s and 30s.
(01:34):
I think before I had kids are being my favorite thing to do is
to stay inside and watch TV all day long.
I watched all kinds of differenttelevision.
Yeah, what type of shows did youwatch?
Well, I would watch different things for different reasons.
I've always liked like, you know, like I was a big lost fan.
I was a huge X-Files fan, I liked procedurals.
(01:58):
I really liked all of the Law and Order shows.
I also really loved like the HP like HBO or the HBO shows like
ours and stuff like that and then I would watch Deadliest.
Catch was big credit, Deadliest Catch and Top Chef and those
kinds of Thanks. Well you watched you covered a
(02:19):
wide spectrum. Yeah but I'm a really big right
now. I really really love.
Well, I love it and it's like five kids so it's family
friendly. But I like like the reality
shows I like the most her or notso must his to Let's Top Chef
and British Bake Off but I really love Life Below Zero and
all those like survivalist showsmy son, especially enjoys naked
(02:40):
and afraid, that's courage. Yeah, TVs great to share.
I mean when Today was a show that I got to share with my
daughters. It was a little dark and scary
but they were as soon as they saw the opening credits are like
we have to watch this and they were hooked ever since.
So it's a good communal experience.
(03:00):
So what is it Prime Time show that you would consider defined
your childhood? Like the one that stands out
when you look back? Well the Golden Girls was my
favorite TV show when I was a little kid.
There was like it was for Fridaynight TV was like I remember, I
remember I think it was empty nest and then they'd have to
(03:21):
Golden Girls and then Hunter wason and Hunter.
Yeah, really. Enjoyed Hunter and my sister.
And I, we just watched that Friday night together that like
Friday night TV slate, every Friday with my parents would go
out for dinner or whatever. So yeah, that was very defining.
What was the golden girl you most identified with?
(03:43):
I like, Sophia the most, you're the best way.
What was it about her? Oh, I don't know.
I just liked her the most. I don't remember what the
attitude. Steve of course, you don't have
to have a reason, just curious what show makes you laugh.
The most, if there's a show thatyou just put on 24 pick me up or
(04:03):
quick laughs, which one is it? God, I can't think of one.
I don't know that I watch any comedies right now.
No, I don't think I do. Nothing at all?
No, I then we'll go with Golden Girls.
How about that? Yeah.
Does it still hold up for you, Golden Girls?
I like it, but I find it a little bit like it's a little
(04:26):
too much with my childhood so itmakes me feel a little sad and
depressed. Sometimes, stop looking back,
especially when you have these characters are these actors and
characters that you love so muchand then you realize, oh, wait,
time has passed. They are, they're not here or
they don't work any longer and yeah.
It's a little sad to realize howmany people are dead.
Exactly. Do you know that that kind of
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transitions into the next question.
What was the last show that madeyou cry?
It's the last show that maybe cry.
Oh my gosh. I know books that made me cry.
What was less TV show that baby crying.
Oh my God, I can't think of one.It doesn't have to be reasonable
or it could just be a memorable Pride to something that touched
you from a television series. A TV show.
(05:11):
Is that was really sad. Oh my God, my brain is blank.
I'm sorry, I can't think of anything that's all right.
The problem is that I have an 18month olds and an
eight-year-old. And so I never really get to
watch anything adult cry during the end of cocoa.
The Disney movie we have that onin the house all the time.
(05:32):
Yeah, that's a tough one. That one I didn't expect it.
It's so sweet and sad. Yeah, that last like 10 minutes
or the show though, it really, it lands and it sticks.
You forever, it also treat, it'sabout death, that whole show and
it really treats it in a very adult way that's accessible.
I mean for kids it's beautifullydone.
Hmm. And what about guilty pleasures
(05:55):
or television? So that people may be surprised.
You love I like reality TV like a bit of the Real Housewives of
Beverly Hills and just recently I prefer happen to catch the
Vanderpump Rules reunions so nowI haven't had them.
It's that was like a week ago and I haven't been able to do
(06:15):
it, but I plan on getting to watch some of this season of
Vanderpump Rules because everybody keeps talking about
it, but I'm constantly with my eight year old so it's tough.
Let's switch channels a little bit and talk about some of your
recent work on yellow jackets. Actually, before we do that,
let's hop back. Even further.
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I'm just curious. How you got into acting was
there a family influence or something like that?
That kind of started this path. I was, I was almost eight and I
was in like a Christmas Pageant.And one of the other kids
mothers who already had her son.Working suggested to my mom that
I do it. I'm the youngest of four kids.
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So I so, every single child in my family was, like, scouted at
some point. My mother always said, no.
Because she had been a model from a very young age and then,
but then when they When I was approached, my siblings were
older and so they were able to sort of they condense my mother
(07:19):
to let me try it. Basically.
And once you tried it, what was your reaction?
Well, I really loved it. I loved being away from home.
I love staying in hotels. I loved being assets and having
something that I was good at andthat sort of made me special at
a young age. So I really loved it a lot.
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I even like auditing, you know, I'm going to the city to
audition got me and my mother out of our house for like three
to four hours every day and thatwas great.
That's like a superpower if you like auditioning.
Well, I had a really troubled home life.
So just to be able to get out ofthe house and concentrate on
something else was really great at that time.
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You don't even have to explain to me, I was a latchkey kid.
Any excuse to get out? Was like, the best reason.
Yeah, I was one of six. I wouldn't say it was a troubled
home life, but I was kind of theinvisible one.
Well, that's not that much therapy.
Begins. Anyone anyone have a tissue is
I'm going to start crying, I think so.
And then when you continued on what, what carry you through?
(08:24):
Actually I'm sorry. Let me go back a bit was acting.
What? First time had you on an
airplane? That's always a big thing for a
kid. Yeah.
Yeah. Well, I flew when I was a baby
but the first time I could remember, flying was.
Yeah, I went to LA to do an American Express.
Commercial when I was eight. I remember the first time taking
off and that experience. Yeah, I was very excited.
(08:47):
It was really fun and then I started flying all the time and
I still remember those flights. They were really, I've always
loved traveling, I love flying when I was a kid.
So speaking of flying we have Misty whose flight experiences
are not that great. She's won hands down.
One of the most original and oneof my favorite characters in
television, I'm wondering what was the pitch that they gave you
(09:09):
for the Character. And what did you want to bring
to her? Well, originally, it was, you
know, we only had the pilot and I missed, you only has one scene
in the pilot where she gets offended by one of her elderly
patients because she works in the nursing home and then ends
up being abusive to the elderly patient.
And I would, I would I just loved it.
(09:30):
See and I thought it was so wellwritten.
And it was so concise and reallyinformative and communicated so
much about the pettiness and Thesmallness of this woman.
And, and I thought that was fascinating.
I, you know, I am very interested in human behavior and
(09:52):
people like this people, this Petty, I find really
fascinating. And then when I met with them,
they kind of just just just talked about how they wanted her
to be, you know, that they wanted her to be the kind of
compared her to Get the care. I forget the woman's name, but
in Wild Wild Country, the woman who ended up running.
(10:16):
So it was it like, Sonja, the woman who ends up running the
Colts for the guru. She was an Indian woman, but
there was something about her where she was.
So you could tell she was like, really devious and she didn't
these horrible things, very manipulative.
But she was also just like adorable and charming, and
really fun and they wanted her to be like that.
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I mean, I, Of that Misty. Is it just allows you to
finally, like, with your comedy Wings, just like fly and I was
just curious. Like, how do you built kind of
the funny little quirks into that character, especially in
like the musical sensory deprivation tank and in the last
episode, can you just kind of maybe get into how you approach
building that character? Well, I realize that she was
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supposed to be funny until we got to shooting a second episode
and then then I realized that She was being written for comedy
and I just I for me, it was veryimportant that this character
feel real and be grounded. And I didn't want her to be too
(11:22):
over-the-top or like cartoonish.And so, I really play her I try
to play her. I try to play against the
comedy, that's written. Almost edit ends up working out.
I mean, people seem to still think she's funny but for me
it's much more important that everything she does make sense
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and follows logic and it's Justified.
So and I'm not a very conscious actor.
So I didn't really realize. I was doing any physical,
anything different until people started pointing it out watching
(12:06):
the show. I think, you know what, I play a
character. I just become a different
person. So, and that means, that means
my physicality changes dependingon the, like, I guess the energy
of the character and you see they, having be having a lot of
fun with her like, especially inthat musical episode.
(12:29):
Oh yes, she is really funny. He's really fun to do the
musical episode. I think in general, she's really
fun to play. It's fun to play somebody who
really doesn't have any respect for societal rules.
She's so immature as well and stunted and she can't really
control. She's either like overly
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controls herself or can't control herself at all.
And those extremes are really fun to play as well.
And it just gets you do a lot ofthings that I know better than
to do in real life as Sita. So this kind of fun at the
viewer, that's the appealing, I really don't know what is going
to happen with Missy from scene to scene and there's yes you can
(13:12):
be very funny there's times where she's very scary like you
just like you worried that something bad is going to happen
because of her. And I think you like I think a
lot of that may be why people love like watching her the same
way, because I like playing her sort of like, escapism, you
know, wish-fulfillment getting to act.
In a way that we absolutely cannot behave.
So, I think a lot of people feelthe same kind of frustration and
(13:35):
rage that Misty feels, and so, it's sort of fun and vindicating
to watch somebody else, like, get, get their revenge on
people. And, and reacts in a way that
we're not able to there's so many different sides to her.
Is there one is? Which ones real do?
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You know, do you have other all real, all of her?
Sides are real like even when she is super passive-aggressive
and it's like fake Pleasant to people.
That's still real, that's how she expresses her rage.
So I don't know that. I don't know that she is capable
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of true artists, you know. But everything you see I think
is real for her interesting to see.
I did gotta watch a little differently.
Because I kind of go into the, she's got something, you know,
things turning behind the facade, The Smiling percent.
Well, absolutely absolutely, shedoes.
But all I'm saying is there's nothing fake about the fact that
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when she's angry or in a situation that makes her
uncomfortable. She goes to like extreme
pleasantry, you know, and to passive aggression like that's a
real coping mechanism. That's a real method of
expression. So I don't think she has enough.
(15:03):
I don't think analyzes herself enough to come up with like a
truly fake persona. I spoke with Sammy earlier to
play as the younger Misty and she a very interesting
backstory. Did you create a backstory for
your character? Is that part of your process?
I did not because I find with television the less, the less
(15:24):
sort of ownership, you feel of her character, the Better
because you don't own the character, you know, this is
these you know, TV is a writer'smedium and they have completely
complete and total control over the character.
What the character does, how thecharacter changes and the
characters backstory. So I have in the past created
(15:44):
backstories for characters on TVand then had to play a
completely different backstory and that can be sort of like it
just doesn't feel good when thathappens.
So I really Try to like, with television, I try to dress beak
be as open-ended as TV is reallyand try to play.
(16:06):
Try to focus more on the behaviors of the character, then
on any past, or present, or rules kind of.
I mean, I absolutely adore the relationship between Misty and
Walter played by Elijah Wood andI seriously could watch a
spin-off of just, the two of them, like solving Mysteries,
like these two homicidal. All detectives but so what is it
(16:28):
like working with Elijah and howdo you think having Walter in
her life? Now has changed Misty's
worldview. I love working with Liza.
He's so fun, and he's so talented, and he's so good, you
know, and his scenes are really fun to play.
We both are kind of vibing and and on the same page and same
(16:49):
Pace even and I think that Walter has really given Misty
For the First Time, like kind ofnormal Stakes relatable Stakes.
Certainly, I don't know that, you know, I never imagined Misty
has Having such relatable steaksto me, she always seemed like
such an extreme character that anything that she would never be
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and, like, a quote unquote, normal sort of situation or be
dealing with, like, normal issues.
But what was interesting is bye-bye.
Bye-bye, Walter being in her life, they season when she went
into the last couple episodes episodes of the show, I think
she reacted to what went on in those last episodes a lot.
(17:34):
Let different lot more lat. Wow, I can't speak today a lot
more differently. A lot more differently.
That sounds completely wrong to me, but I'm gonna go with it.
She reacted a lot more differently then then I think
she would have had Walter not been a part of her life, you
know, I think with the whole ritual in the card game and the
(17:57):
hunt, I think, if he had not been in her life, then she would
have been like, oh great, we're doing this again.
This sounds Fun. Like I like thrilled but because
she all of a sudden it's something to lose the idea of
risking any of that of her potential, like the poison, when
the poison comes into play and she's like, no way.
(18:19):
Am I gonna die now? And then and then I think that
carries through to the hunt as well.
She's, you know, for she's sort of finally has like something
very meaningful to live for. And I think before that, that
just kind of a total nihilist ina lot of ways.
It was great to see him return ever have Misty and Walter back
(18:42):
together because I wasn't sure it didn't seem like it was going
to happen but just based on likewhere you were in the story and
to see them come back, it was like this is it was just a big
picking me up in a series that has a lot of emotional ups and
downs. Why is it thinks the I thought
seeing him do his work, his magic and come up with a whole
(19:04):
plan and execute it and watchinghim.
Watch and Elijah and Warren worktogether was so fun and just
like the biggest born called found.
So I thought there's these were so fun and it's really fun being
Walters a great character, and Elijah is so great in the show.
So, yeah, it was really fun to watch him in those final
episodes. Yeah, it's rare.
(19:26):
When you can bet when you could pair up to Great characters like
that though and have them, it's like peanut butter and jelly
just just wonderful to watch what is Misty's, endgame.
It seems she's looking for acceptance and I'm just curious.
How far she will go to be accepted?
Well, I mean, I feel like at this point, she has this
compulsion to always like tried and to have a friend or see if
(19:48):
people will accept her, but I think it's also kind of a weird
like that. I think it's also sort of
expressed in sort of a hostile way.
She knows she's going to be rejected but it says weird like
compulsive need to just keep doing this thing just like what
follows afterwards. The self-destruction and they
(20:09):
like doing the wrong thing to the new quote unquote friend.
I think all that is very like it's just her sort of, I don't
want to say, it's just like her mom, her mode of operation, you
know, and the cycle that she always goes through the keeps
her in the same place. So I think she has that
(20:30):
compulsion. I think you know, I don't think
her life has been very fun or full Since they were rescued,
she has a really strong bond to the other survivors and I think
it's the one time she actually did belong to some group.
(20:54):
So, I think she has just this this need to to preserve that
group in a lot of ways. Yeah, you mentioned lost earlier
and one of the things that is similar to me about this show
and loss is The Ensemble. I mean, you have Melanie lynskey
of Tony Cypress. You Juliette Lewis.
I mean, plus like all the younger versions, so, what does
(21:16):
that Dynamic light on step with,just all this, like, incredible
group of actors. It's really fun.
You know, I have to say, we havelike, the most incredible
younger cast. They're so good.
And they're watching their scenes with do they were just,
there were so incredible. And unfortunately, we don't get
to work with them ever, so, you know, that's a bummer, but we
(21:39):
had so many. We had a lot of time together,
all the adults or the older cast, because the younger cast
our adults also, but we had a lot of time together and it was
really fun, you know? Just like all five of us was its
or, is it six of us? I think six of us, right?
Six, I think six. Yeah, I was born.
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I've been saying five I'll presscycle.
Oops. The six of us just like you
know, working we worked nights, we worked crazy hours but just
all hanging out in a tent like, because I was our green room
and, you know, getting like silly at 3 a.m. and suffering
together and laughing together and working together.
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And really this Caster so amazing and just cares.
I don't think I've ever worked on a show where the cast
everybody on the cast like genuinely cares so much about
the show. And wants it to be so good and
put so much into their performance.
And really put so much like pressure on themselves.
Like we we all really take it very seriously.
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So it's interesting to be in a group like that, it's really fun
and it's really rewarding. It must be a joy to, though.
Since you do not actually get towork with them to sit back and
watch that performance after andsee the other side of the story
unfold. It is fun, it is really fun.
And, you know, because so much well for me, I put so much focus
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on my performance and my storyline and all that stuff
that sometimes I'm so focused onmy stuff that I don't really
absorb what they're going to be doing when I read the scripts as
much as maybe I should or some of the other actors do, so,
whatever. I watched the episodes, I'm
always like, oh, I like, I feel like a real audience member, who
didn't know that was going to happen kind of thing.
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I know I do but so right there. Great.
It's a great way to watch thingsbecause it's, you know, takes
period also, but you really truly get to experience it for
the first time with the music and all the, in the editing and
everything that goes into reading on the, on the pages.
One, it's so funny to like we shoot scenes, you don't even
seem to your, in end up completely different with the
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way, they edit things. And the music they put in and
all the visual effects and all that stuff.
So it's always kind of fun. It's always really fun and
interesting, and surprising to watch the episodes even your own
scenes. That's great.
And this season ended in the most shocking of ways, what was
it like shooting? What seems to be this?
The end of the road for Juliette, Lewis has a cast mate.
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Was it tough? It was awful.
It was just awful. I hated that day so much.
I think we are. Well, I hated it.
I think. Juliet hated it.
I know a lot of I think Tawny hated it.
I know a lot of us hated it. It was we shot that scene on the
last day of shooting for the season, so it Is awful because
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it for many reasons, one of them, being that it was Julia,
that that it was this horrible, emotional kind of goodbye.
But then also, because it was the last day of the season, so
everybody who didn't have to cryand SOB wanted to take selfies
together and hug and laugh and give presents.
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And it's like when you're doing those kinds of scenes, the
energy and mood, and quiet and focus.
Is really necessary. And that was just almost
impossible to get and but what was really amazing as Caron
kasama, who directed it and is my favorite favorite director
for this show. She kind of really allowed me
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and Juliet to say, you know, that one point I was able to go
up to her and just say that we have to do this now because I
can, I'm not going to be able togive this performance as we
continue and people get Sillier and more like, oh, goodbye I
love you. Look at this.
You know, I was like we got to do now and she was great.
(25:39):
She was like a great. Let's go and let's do it.
Now. We'll do the, you know, we'll do
all the coverage and everything.So that was really helpful.
It sounds like you're at a funeral and the rest of the cast
was at a graduation. No, I wouldn't say that.
I mean, they also had to be upset and everything, but it was
just I think I had put a lot more pressure on myself for it
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because they knew was such a huge.
Moment and and everything but that it was also just like
really devastating and very sad and you know, we've all grown so
close and I just, I really love Juliet so much and it's I'm
upset that the show is going to go on without her, you know.
(26:24):
Yeah, all those things I teared up that during a thousand would
Steve had was the last one. I'm like I don't know if I was
the last one. I turned up on but I definitely
got a little sad watching that one.
Yeah. It's you're giving me the chills
just talking about it because I same thing I was like, what?
No, no, this is not How This Ends.
We are not happy mysterious endings, not deaf.
I know, I know it was really sad.
(26:47):
I think I cried when I watched the episode 2 and we're not
alone that this online reaction has been amazing.
Just how much it has affected people, which is great.
But they're also like, dammit Misty, how do you possibly, you
know, hit the wrong person. I saw a lot of people.
Some people were commenting on some of my posts.
Like, how Christie's going to hell?
(27:07):
Or how could she have done this?It's like, but the whole point
is, it's an accident. Yeah, actually, I mean Juliet
sacrifices. So anyway, literally, its
Natalie Natalie sacrifices herself to protect her.
You see it in her face. You see it in your injury action
in Misty's defense? She did not mean to kill her.
Yeah, yeah. People have to look at the
(27:28):
context because your reaction you can see Devastation forget
forget I'm as fast as I drop things everywhere.
I could totally see you accidentally plunging.
Somebody in the arm with the it jumps in front of needle.
So it's not like there was no chance in hell for Misty.
The we'll work it out. Yeah.
I think what Luke is saying is, don't give him a vial of poison.
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It's not going to end. No, definitely not do not.
I'm gonna fall. So it would not trust myself.
So there's been some huge news about a special episode coming
between Seasons, two and three fans are dying to hear more.
Is there anything you can tell us about it?
You know, I am terrified to speak about things without
having been prepped, by the showtime team, because I don't
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feel like, I'm not sure what I'msupposed to say or not.
Say so I can't say anything. Are you excited for it?
How about that? Will go real broad?
Yeah, I am really excited for it.
I'm excited for it. I can't wait to see it.
I know no very much. I mean, I haven't seen obviously
haven't seen the episode, so I'mbut I'm looking forward to it
(28:34):
and you don't have to answer if you know.
But do you know the timing? It's, you know, when this were
the same, no, I don't know. Okay.
All right. Sorry fans, you're going to have
to wait for another few weeks until she gets prepped.
If you want, you can go make a phone call real quick and come
back. I will wait.
We have time for that. I believe I have a heart out so
(28:56):
as Steve mentioned of the beautyof the podcast, like we've been
fans of yours since, you know, way back in the day.
I mean, I've seen you in small. Any Productions multi-million
dollar Hollywood, Blockbusters television podcast video games.
So like, where's your happy place?
Is there any like project that you haven't tackled yet?
You love to try. You know, I just want to keep
(29:18):
making that really varied work, things that I feel passionate
about feels that are things thatare challenging things, that
really feel like worth it. And yeah that's that's kind of
it. Yeah, I love I'm not personally
like I consume all types of media and I think kind of that's
people's habits these days. So like why not?
(29:40):
Write like tackle it all? Yeah, yeah, I'm trying to.
I think there's a few things. I don't like doing that.
Go really don't like doing bookson tape.
Reading books on tape. No crying.
I did it once. And I was like, well, this is
this is terrible. I hate this.
That's one form of content. I don't want to do, but I can't
(30:00):
say anything else, really? I don't like singing and dancing
so I definitely They don't want to do it in musicals so I can
only tell you things. I don't want to do does that
translate to karaoke though? Are you not a fan of karaoke?
I like karaoke but that's not really like no.
That's just having fun with yourfriends.
Yeah, I was just going to say mymy fandom goes back to mermaids.
(30:23):
I saw that in the theater and then it's why it's great to see
when you see something, you likegreat performance and then to
see them pop up again. Then you're like Wednesday and
then You're Here There and Everywhere.
And for was a three decades now.I've been following all the
amazing career choices, you've been making and it's been a
blast. Thank you so much and you
(30:44):
recently stepped back into the world of Addams Family.
So what was that? Like going back to the property?
You haven't visited since you'rea kid.
You know, it was really fun. I was really excited to be
asked. I love Tim Burton.
I loved working with him when I was younger and I'm just such a
fan of his As you know, an audience member you know, some
(31:07):
of my favorite films are movies he's made so I was really
excited to be working with him. You know I love I love the
world. I have a lot of nostalgia for
all of it and sentiments and it was really fun and it also felt
like a totally different thing, you know, it didn't feel like
the movies I made so it didn't really feel it felt like going
(31:30):
on to just a new project. Something different in a lot of
Boys. Yeah, the tones are very
different between the two. Yeah.
Yeah, as I mentioned, I watched it with my daughters and we were
lucky because I get some Early Access so we get to see it
before the whole world. Did we watched it?
And they're like telling they want to tell their friends but
the friends wouldn't understand.So same thing that happened with
(31:53):
Lucas. They came back to her like did
you watch Wednesday yet that? Yeah, we watched it a month ago
but that's been everybody loves it.
Like my mother-in-law sat with me and watched it and she's
like, what's this show? Where can I find this?
It's amazing that the reach Of the audience that it that it
connected. Yeah, definitely pretty rare.
Yeah. So let me close out this portion
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with just a really easy one. Three words to describe Misty,
amateur vindictive and Charming.Love it.
Mmm, it'll be on her tombstone. Doubt it I think he's a Survivor
but yeah. Well yeah, but I don't know how
to put Survivor in there withoutmaking it sounds like that.
(32:37):
You have a tombstone? No, you're right.
All the other characters who doesn't like a fun survivors,
you know what I mean? Like, one of the things I love
about her, as well as she even know.
She's probably very, very, very unhappy.
She sort of has this, like, hyper-vigilant need to be happy.
And so, she creates her own fun.And is able to have, like,
really good time. And any situation and to me,
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that's like a true survivor. You know, you didn't just
physically get through, but you're able to get yourself
through emotionally. We and and mood-wise in any
situation and I really love. I love people like that.
And so I it's one of the things I really love about her.
I'm say there's a part of her that is so compelling and that's
(33:20):
it. Where I do like to think there's
a part of me. That's similar, right?
That's like you're in this mess anyway.
You might as well enjoy it. Yeah.
But she doesn't ever expect anyone else to make it fun.
So she's going to do it for yourself.
Yeah, I think so. I was going to ask this
question. It just popped up and you as
you're answering. Would you like to hang out with
her? No, probably not.
No. I mean, she's there.
She's really I don't think she doesn't mean to be a dangerous
(33:46):
person but I think she just so doesn't follow the same rules of
morality or a society that she'sdangerous because she is capable
of things that we just would never consider doing.
Yeah. She's a she's a bit much and it
would all you'd always have to be on.
You can't just like, hey you want to have a brownie?
(34:07):
Maybe not want. You know how about this tea?
No, no mushrooms. So that was wonderful and it's
really great to explore your work and close out with this a
couple more TV topics and get you on your way what classic or
modern TV character. Would you have liked to have
played? Or would you like to play in the
future? Well, I mean I was a huge
(34:29):
X-Files fan so, but I also put that's hard because usually love
a character because the actor did such a great job.
So I probably wouldn't have beenas good.
A scout of a Scully but I love Scully.
Maybe a different version. Yeah.
Okay. Ed final one if you could live
in one TV show forever but you can pop in and pop out whenever
you want. So you see your family that that
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all continues, which one would it be and why?
Well I mean succession has some really beautiful production
design and luxurious apartments and great clothes so you know,
maybe for that, that's funny. That's a second time in a row,
(35:11):
nobody has been The answer. Yeah, I said well that your
question, what would you be and why would be the Golden Girls is
how I thought you were asked that question, our last guests
Christa Miller said that she loved to do it just skip all the
meetings though and go straight to the airplanes and the and the
great location. So I would just be going on
vacation and living in the apartments and shopping.
(35:35):
Excellent. Well thank you so much for
hanging out on the TV topics couch.
It's been an absolute pleasure. Thank you.
We look forward to watching. Watching the bonus episode of
course and everything else you do.
Thank you so much and I'm so excited that people enjoyed this
season. You know.
We put a lot of a lot of ourselves into it so it's really
great. Thank you so much.
(35:56):
It's been a blast speaking with you.
Thank you. Bye guys, thanks so much bye.
Be sure to watch Christina's work on Showtime's yellowjacket
season 2 and season one or both streaming on Paramount plus.
And the big shout out to Emily. A you for our funky theme song
and to our announcer, carry Loya, you can find him at Curry.
Loya veoh.com, it's in our profile.
(36:18):
And you can also follow all of our work on Twitter at awards
radar and a were trader.com. Lucas, where can you be
followed? You can follow me at Luke
O'Neill and Logic on Instagram and on Twitter you can follow me
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Her box and Instagram. All at film school.
Thanks for listening, everyone. Stay tuned for more TV.
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