Sunrises, Seafood, and Slip-Ups: Vacation Vibes & Delulu Dreams

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Florida? Healing. Overpacking? Predictable. Raw oysters? Debatable. In this sun-soaked second episode of Twin Tangents: Because Therapy Was Booked, Nalee returns from her first trip to Destin with a suitcase full of chaotic memories, broken sandals, and just enough emotional clarity to keep her grounded (for now). Meanwhile, Anthony reflects on grief, family dynamics, and why he might just need his own escape plan.

We spiral through vacation red flags, texting etiquette, early-morning superiority complexes, and that one Florida sunrise that made Nalee rethink her entire existence — or at least her group chat. Plus, we proudly introduce a core concept of the pod: the Delulu Manifesto™ — where your wildest dreams meet just enough denial to feel achievable.

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 – Whether taking a selfie with your ex is “growth” or just... regression
 – And a spicy game of Text or Leave on Read (spoiler: memes during fights are not peace offerings)

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Episode Transcript

Nalee (00:31):
🎵Outro music plays🎵.
All right, besties, episode two.
You came back.
Either you love us or you hatelistening.
Either way, hi.
So I told myself I'd beentering my soft girl era.
But apparently the universesaid, hey, let's try emotional
turbulence instead.
But anyways, welcome back, hoes.
Just kidding, we've got a lotto unpack.

Anthony (00:54):
Okay, Quick disclaimer when we say hoes, we mean it
with nothing but love.
It's our term of endearment foreach other, our group chat and
now all of you.
If you vibe with us, you're oneof our hoes and we mean that in
the most affectionate, chaotic,supportive way possible.
No offense ever, just full onfriendship energy.

(01:17):
So welcome to the hoe fam.

Nalee (01:20):
Eyyy, all right.
So what have you been up tolately?
What'd you do this past weekend?

Anthony (01:27):
This weekend.
Well, the weather was finallygetting nicer, not as nice as
I'm sure it was in Florida.

Nalee (01:33):
Oh yes, it was beautiful in Florida.

Anthony (01:34):
Yeah, you can rub that in my face, because I was
thinking about it all weekend.

Nalee (01:40):
You look like you were in Florida.
You look tan.

Anthony (01:42):
I look tan because I laid out all weekend.
I wor ked on the podcast.
I laid out.
Yeah, and that was.

Nalee (01:52):
You watched a bird in the tree.

Anthony (01:54):
I watched a bird in the tree, spent a good 10-15
minutes trying to figure outwhat bird it was.

Nalee (01:59):
Okay.

Anthony (02:00):
Um, I did go um.
My cousin's husband passed awayso we had like she had like a
celebration of life.
No, that's fine, Thank you.
Um, but yeah, so got to have alittle bit of family time.
That was fun, I guess.

Nalee (02:18):
Family time is always fun .

Anthony (02:19):
Family time is always fun, interesting yes Would be a
better word.
That's a good word.

Nalee (02:21):
Yes

Anthony (02:21):
Interesting would be a better word,

Nalee (02:23):
That's a good word, yes.

Anthony (02:24):
But yeah, other than that, I just, you know, pulled a
selfish and I laid out.

Nalee (02:31):
Okay.

Anthony (02:31):
Yeah, but I've been waiting to hear about Florida.

Nalee (02:35):
Yes.
.
.

Anthony (02:35):
Because this was your first time.

Nalee (02:37):
Yes, it was, oh my God, like I was not mentally prepared
.
I think it's just because I hada lot of stuff going on.
But like I did not mentallyprepared, I think it's just
because I had a lot of stuffgoing on but I did not know how
much I needed this trip.
It was such a good trip, Ithink, the group of gals.
So if you don't know me and mypersonal life, just to kind of
give you a background story, Ihave a friend, one of my best

(03:00):
friends.
She just got married but shedidn't do her bachelorette party
, so we decided to do itafterwards.
No, we didn't do no, nothingrelated to no strippers or
nothing.
We're good girls.
We don't do none of that here.

Anthony (03:12):
Is it really a bachelorette party if you don't
have a stripper?

Nalee (03:15):
Well, we did have one of my other best friends.
Her name was Bor.
She went down, but.
.
.

Anthony (03:22):
Oh she got dirty.

Nalee (03:22):
She got dirty, but she's always dirty, so we love her.
But yeah, so we went in, um, wewent to Dest in, Florida, got
that down, not Miami, but wewent to Destin, Florida.
It was my first time in Florida.
It was beautiful.
Like when, when other peoplesaid it like, oh yeah, you
should go to Destin it's likebeautiful, like I'm like uh-huh,
the moment we arrived I'm like,oh my god, it's gorgeous, like

(03:45):
it's beautiful.
Um, I think the people therewas just really nice, like they
were very welcoming and I'm wewere talking about how, like
surprisingly clean it was.
Like, um, obviously I haven'tgone to Florida, but some of the
other girls that we traveledwith, they uh mentioned that
like Miami, for example.
Like nothing bad about Miami,not trying to give you any hate
or anything but they said thatMiami is a little bit dirtier,

(04:08):
where, like when it comes tolike trash and stuff, like you
do see it laying around.
But in Destin, like there was abeach we went to.
I might pronounce it wrong, butwe went and had like lunch
dinner-ish at this place calledPompano Joe's or Pompino Joe's,
whatever it's called, but shoutout to Daniel, he was our server
, he was super cool.
Um, but it the beach there wascalled Miramar beach.

(04:32):
I think that's how youpronounce it.
Yeah

Anthony (04:34):
I've heard of it.

Nalee (04:34):
Yeah, and it was beautiful.
Like we, I think, we spent likealmost two and a half hours
there during like sun, sun, down, sunset and um, they have like
recycling trash bags and theywere like hey, like let's take
care of the environments, takecare of our beaches, and people
actually threw trash in the bag.
They weren't just there, wasn'tjust trash laying around stuff

(04:55):
like that, so it was reallyclean.
Um, it definitely is.
I felt like of um a retirementtown, because there was a lot of
older folks there.

Anthony (05:04):
I think it's a retirement state.

Nalee (05:06):
Oh.

Anthony (05:06):
Just period.

Nalee (05:07):
I guess.

Anthony (05:07):
Everybody wants to go to Florida.

Nalee (05:08):
Yeah, a lot of people were saying that like yeah, I
think there was a lot oftravelers there too, obviously.
So, like, a lot of people werelike, oh my god, like I wish I
could just live here.
Um, one of my um girlfriends orChilly, that's her name or her
street name uh, her sister, yeah, her sister um S elena, was
like oh, yeah, um, when we werethere, I was hearing a lot of

(05:32):
people saying how nice it wasand they just want to live here.
So that's how you could tellthey're tourists, because we all
were saying the same thing,like oh, it's so nice here.
Um, and obviously I'm not likeI hate hotness, but F lorida was
one where I'm like you knowwhat?
I'm going to stay in this heat.
I love the beaches and stufflike that, so it was beautiful.

Anthony (05:51):
In Florida people always say it's a humid heat.
But you can't complain aboutthat, especially if you're near
the ocean, because then you getthe breeze off the ocean and I
feel like that cancels out thehumidity.

Nalee (06:05):
It like 100% canceled it out.
Like speaking from a person whohates being hot.
I was like I'm here for it, Idon't even care because I'm
gonna be in the water in alittle bit.

Anthony (06:14):
Yes.
It was beautiful um.
.
.
See now you, and now you see my appeal, like.
.
.

Nalee (06:20):
Yes, I do

Anthony (06:20):
Florida.

Nalee (06:21):
I do

Anthony (06:21):
Like move to Florida.

Nalee (06:22):
I'm like oh, I don't even know what's so great about
Florida.
I get it, I'm moving with you ifyou move now.
Yeah, it was really nice.
So we did a couple of things,but then for me, like, call it
my Pisces intuition, but I lovebeing in water and beach,
whatever.
So then on Saturday night, Same, I'm a Cancer.

Anthony (06:44):
Are you Water sign?

Nalee (06:45):
Wow.

Anthony (06:45):
And I love the water.

Nalee (06:47):
Okay.

Anthony (06:47):
I could be in the water all day, every day.

Nalee (06:50):
Yeah, but I think my favorite part of this whole trip
was I was telling you I had afunny story.
So then I think it was like theweek before we actually left to
Florida Like somebody mentionedto me that I should go watch
the sunrise in Florida becauseit's really pretty.
So then I mentioned to some ofthe girls because I know some

(07:12):
girls aren't like morning peopleI'm obviously not, but if I'm
going to Florida and I'm goingto be by the beach bitch, I'm
going to wake up to go see thesunrise.

Anthony (07:22):
5 am.

Nalee (07:22):
Yes and so then we, because we arrived there on
Thursday, and so then I wasgoing to wake up to go see the
sunrise.
5 am, yes.
And so then we, because wearrived there on Thursday, and
so then I was going to go seethe sunrise on Friday morning,
and so then it said that the sunwas going to rise at 5:45.
So then we planned to wake upat 5:30 because we were like
five minutes away from the beach.
Technically we could havewalked.
It would have been like a 10,15 minute walk.

Anthony (07:44):
You didn't walk?

Nalee (07:45):
We didn't walk because we didn't know the area yet.
We just got to the night beforeand so then we were just
settling in.
But then in the group chateverybody was all like, oh yeah,
like I want to go, I want to go, let's all go.
So I thought, here I was, Iwould be the only one who wanted

(08:06):
to go.
So I'm like, yeah, I will wakeyou guys up and we'll all go.
And so then come Thursday nightthey ended up staying till four
in the morning drinking some ofthese girls.
So then I'm like, when I wakeyou up, if you're not going to
wake up, if I do it two or threetimes, if I call your name,
you're not going to wake up,bitch, I'm leaving without you.
So here I am on our Airbnb.
Airbnb was three floors, so Igo from third floor, second
floor, first floor, the thirdfloor.

(08:28):
I asked the girls hey, did youguys want to go?
Like I was going to.
Like.
Our joke was I was going towalk because we bought a
microphone and a little speaker.
So I was going to walk aroundthe hotel saying let's go.
Yeah, that's literally what Iwas just thinking.

Anthony (08:39):
I was like I'm picturing you as like a drill
sergeant.
Yeah, that's literally what Iwas just thinking.
I was like I'm picturing you aslike a drill sergeant.

Nalee (08:45):
Yeah, with a megaphone.

Anthony (08:46):
Yeah, like up, up, up Everybody up.

Nalee (08:48):
But I didn't do that because I'm a light sleeper.
So I knew that they just cameto sleep at four o'clock because
I was already kind of awake andI was excited to go see the
sunrise and I didn't want tomiss my alarm.
So I was kind of like sleeping,but not really sleeping.
So then the girl that wassleeping with me, my bestie, Bor
, um, she crawled into bed atlike 4 am and I'm like, yeah,

(09:09):
this bitch ain't gonna go withme.
I know that for a fact.
So then five o'clock comesaround, alarm rings I wake up
and I'm like, hey, Bor, let's go.
Like, let's wake up, let's gosee the sunrise.
Bitch didn't fucking move, shedidn't fucking make a sound.
So I'm like, okay, I'm leavingyou behind.
And so I go to the next room.
There's four girls in this room, or yeah, four girls in this

(09:29):
room.
Oh no, I like two.
So then I wake one of the othergirls she was a sister-in-law
of the girl that we're going tothe.
We went to the bachelor.
She woke up already because Iknow she was ready to go see the
sunrise.
But then the other girl, whichwas my bessie's sister, she told
me that was going to go with mebecause the car rental was
under her name.
So she's like, oh yeah, wake meup, I'll go with you.

(09:51):
Blah, blah, blah, I'll drive.
Yeah, I'll drive.
Four o'clock she just cameasleep, wake her up and she was.
She didn't remove, she was just.
I was just like hey, like wakeup, let's go.
She's like no, I'm okay, I'mgood, I'm tired.
Move on to the second floor.
One of the other girls isalready awake because she was
ready to go tried waking up allthe other sisters.

(10:11):
They didn't wake up.
Went to the first level trywaking up those girls.
Nobody moved an inch.
So I'm like, okay, of the 14girls that came, only three made
it out of the group chat.
So when we went, it was sobeautiful, like it was so worth
it.
I think like that moment, likeI said, was probably one of my
favorites because it was likenobody was at the beach or not.

(10:31):
A lot of people was at the beachand people who were at the
beach were already halfway intothe water it's so peaceful at
the beach watching the sunsetyeah, sunrise it was super
intimate too, like I loved it,like I think it was really quiet
, really calming and itdefinitely just made me like
come kind of come back intomyself, like wow, like this is

(10:52):
this is it, like this is my bestlife, this is your best life.

Anthony (10:56):
And that's one thing that I love as well.
It's like, and the thing withthe ocean is like I don't know
if you felt this, this at all,but like anytime that I'm there
and those moments when you're atthe beach, nobody's there, it's
peaceful, you're watching thesunrise or even the sunset, it's
.
It really is a reflectivemoment to be like.
You look at the ocean.

(11:17):
You're like god, I'm so smallin the grand scheme of things
yeah, that's beautiful and likeit's just crazy to think like
you think about that.
Yeah, I mean I didn't, butthat's beautiful and like it's
just crazy to think.

Nalee (11:25):
Yeah, Like you think about that.
Yeah, I mean, I didn't, butthat's beautiful.
Oh, you didn't, I didn't.
I'm just like wow, like I'malive, like the sun's coming up,
I'm at the beach, my toes arein the sand.
Bitch, I'm fucking alive.

Anthony (11:46):
Like.
So I do want to say one thingthat I'm a little disappointed
in your friends that we traveledwith, because, if anything, you
said that they all startedgoing to bed about four o'clock.
Yeah, you should have keptpouring those shots and just
drove through.
I guess, Stayed awake Anotherhour and a half they drank a lot
already.

Nalee (12:02):
We started drinking the moment we got to the Airbnb,
which was like I don't know, Ithink it was like at eight.
So from eight till 4am yeah,bitch, that's a long time.
Okay, yeah, but I think theyalready said that they weren't
like early birds.
But again, I think I kind ofloved it that it was only the
three of us, though, like I meanwell loved it that it was only

(12:23):
the three of us though like Imean well, like you said,
intimate yeah, I don't mind,like I'm not saying that I
wasn't glad none of the othergirls didn't make it, but I was
glad the girls who did go likedid go with me, because
originally I was just gonna goby myself, like I wanted to just
kind of like have a moment tomyself, kind of live that like
hallmark moment where you're atthe beach, you know, and you're
by yourself and you're watchingthe sun rise and stuff.

(12:46):
But like I kind of loved it thatthose other two girls came
along, like it was reallyintimate.
We took some photos and we justkind of sat there and like the
other one of the girls tookphotos of me.
I legit looked depressed.
I legit looked like I wascontemplating if I wanted to go
jump into the ocean.
But I think that was just methinking like wow, like I'm

(13:07):
really alive, like it feels goodto be alive.
It's one of those things that wetake for granted, because we
don't think about it, for sure,we get so wrapped up in our
day-to-day lives, and thenmoments like this.
That's when I realized I'm like,oh, I definitely needed this
fucking trip.
Like I needed it more than Ithought I did, because I was
contemplating or I was thinkingabout my sisters, like they're

(13:31):
at home and they're taking careof my dad and how much stress
they're having.
And I felt bad because I'm like, wow, I'm here in Florida
enjoying my trip and they're athome stressing out about my mom
and dad.
So I felt kind of bad.
But I'm like you know what,it's okay.
Like you know, I'm going totake that off my shoulder.

(13:54):
Like you know, I I deserve thistrip, stuff like that it was a
mental break for you.

Anthony (13:59):
It definitely was, it truly was.
I mean, that's something thatyour sister should look into as
far as and I definitely canrelate to you as far as the
stress of, you know, ailingparents.

Nalee (14:13):
But anyways, yeah.
So Florida was wonderful.
I think we had a good time.
It was a great group of girlsbecause there was like no drama
or anything.
We all kind of got along.
But do you have any like dolulu summer manifestos at all?
the hell is a delulu manifestookay well for me, since I just

(14:34):
got back from this trip like wewere talking about, like I do
get homesick easily but hell, Iwould not mind going on another
trip again.
So, like, for me it would belike winning the lottery, with
no attachments and just going onlike a month-long international
trip.
Like I would love to go toswitzerland or, um, go to japan
like, um, not like the kawaiikind of stuff, but I would love

(14:57):
to go to like the suburbs ofjapan, like just to go enjoy
like the scenery, like the farmyou know, like they have like
fields of stuff and living inthe countryside.
Like to me I feel like juststaying like that and
experiencing that.
And like eating authentic Well,I'm not a big sushi person, but

(15:19):
like I would just love toexperience that Like just to
live in peace, like lower, likevisit a place that's really
peaceful and quiet.

Anthony (15:27):
Yeah, yeah, I think that that's a good one.
I think that that's somethingthat I would love.
I would love to be able tospend an entire summer just
traveling.

Nalee (15:35):
And I don't.

Anthony (15:37):
I don't know that I would want to do like a month
long thing, like I would justwant to like the full summer
would be great.
Would just want to like thefull summer would be great.
It would be nice if being anadult was like being in school,
where you only have to work fromlike september to like may or
june, whatever it is, and thenyou get the summer off to like
do what you want.

Nalee (15:52):
That would be great yeah, take note, kids, anybody who's
saying my suck life, my lifesucks in high school, my suck
life in high school, like whenyou're an adult, it sucks
because you.
That's when all theresponsibility kicks in and you
have to kind of like prioritizeyour life.
We clearly have nothingprioritized in our life right
now.

Anthony (16:12):
I'm still working on it .
Almost 40 and still working onit.

Nalee (16:16):
It's okay, boo.
That's what life is about.

Anthony (16:18):
I don't know if I ever told you this, okay, okay, I
actually have.
I know a couple that they tookoff and I don't remember how
long it was, for it was morethan a summer, and they just
traveled.
They went to, like, vietnam.
They went to Tokyo, god, wherethey went everywhere.

(16:43):
South America, um, god, wherethey went everywhere, south
america, like, and I was sojealous because I'm I'm sitting
here, I'm thinking like god,when I was their age, I would
have loved to have done that.
How young were they at thattime?
They had just graduated college, I think within the last,
within the year, so they wereprobably in their early 20s oh
my god, that would have been somuch fun.
Yeah, I mean, they worked sohard, they saved up their money

(17:06):
and they just traveled Wow, andthey did some of the most
amazing things and they createda Facebook page and they just,
you know, kept all their familyand friends updated with all of
their travels.

Nalee (17:19):
It's insane yeah.

Anthony (17:21):
They said flying back from I'm 98% positive that it
was tokyo, but like flying backhome to the states from tokyo
was the best experience of theirlife.
And they said that the theplane was like the nicest plane
ride like it wasn't like ourtexas plane ride they had room,

(17:44):
they had like a private cabin,and they got their meals.
Because it's such a long flight, too, it's an international
flight.
Yeah.

Nalee (17:51):
I mean us Asians treat you really good, so I mean I
wouldn't be surprised.
Yeah, Do you have any likevacation red flags or anything
like that?

Anthony (18:01):
Yes, my biggest vacation red flag, and this is
something that I've learned overthe years and I've stopped
doing it.
When you travel, I expect youto try local cuisine, or try
something that you can't try athome.

Nalee (18:16):
That's a good idea.
I never thought of that.
For me, obviously, you know wetravel to Texas.
I'm like, hey, you want someMcDonald's, exactly.

Anthony (18:27):
It's like you get McDonald's at home.
Find the local barbecue place,yeah.

Nalee (18:32):
Well, you will be proud of me because when we went to
Florida we did try seafood,because I know that Florida,
like you like seafood, though?
Right, I do Like in general,but not raw and I did try raw
oyster yeah, do like in general,but not raw, and I did try raw
oyster.
Yeah, oh okay, I'm proud of youbecause, yeah, it was my first
time like normally, because, um,like some of the gals that we
went with, they love seafood,and so then they ordered raw

(18:55):
oysters and I looked at it andthey're like, yeah, like you're
in florida, like you get freshoysters, everything's fresh and
I was like I've never tried it.
I've always been really temptedto, but I don't think I'm
courageous enough to eat it orbrave enough to eat it.
But then they're like no, tryit, like it's really really good
.
Because for me, I know thatwhen it's like shellfish I'm

(19:15):
scared to get like a chunk ofthe shell stuck in my teeth or
something like that.
And, yeah, and I get like thatgag reflex.

Anthony (19:25):
So then, so then, just talking about is making my mouth
.

Nalee (19:26):
I know I'm sitting here, I'm just waiting for that moment
, yeah.
But then, um, they're like ohyeah, well, you want to put a
little bit of the horseradish, alittle bit of lime and a little
bit of, like the hot sauce orthe red sauce or whatever.
And so then I'm like okay, likehere we go, like I've never
eaten this before out of theshell right yeah and I was kind
of scared.
They're like it's just easy,just like lift, like it's
already.
Um, they've already taken itout, like they detached it from

(19:47):
the shell already.
All you need to do just kind ofslurp it right, I'm like,
because it's slimy yeah it wasokay.
So then I like did the thing andI ate it.
I'm like they said, just chewonce or twice and then swallow
it.
So I did that.
I'm like okay, not bad.
But then like the moment Iswallowed I oh, it tastes like a
lot of like what is it?

(20:08):
Like booger or like?

Anthony (20:10):
I said I've never eaten booger.

Nalee (20:13):
They're like oh, you ate booger before.
I'm like, not really, but whenI was a kid probably.

Anthony (20:17):
Like what you would imagine it to be like, but it
tastes like yeah mucus is whatthey said.

Nalee (20:21):
It's like mucus and I'm like I can see that, but then,
low key, I did kind of like it.
However, I could probably eatone or maybe two.
That's it, because after thatI'm like, okay, the lime was
good, like the texture.
I didn't really like, I didn'treally like, but I wouldn't try
tasting it again.
But I tried it the second timewith like hot sauce and again.

(20:46):
But I tried it this the secondtime with like hot sauce and
girl, it was actually yeah.
So I put hella hot sauce in it.
I put like a whole, like umslice of lime on it you sound
like me like when I'm eatingfish.

Anthony (20:54):
That's like too fishy tasting.

Nalee (20:57):
I'm like squirt a whole freaking like five ounces of
tartar sauce.
Yeah and then I ate the secondtime and I'm like, yep, that's
good for me, like I don't wantany more of that.
It was really gooey, like itwas really like slimy and gross.
And then that second one, myfear actually happened because I
did get a little chunk of theshell.

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So that's when I'm like, oh,like tooth again, like I don't
want any more, but it was reallygood.
That was the only thing I didtry, but I did get a burger.

Anthony (21:27):
So you did get a burger from mcdonald's no from the
pompa.

Nalee (21:31):
Pompa no pompa no joe's whatever, sorry okay, you have
to.

Anthony (21:35):
I have one question for you okay how many times, while
you were in florida, in thecourse of what were you?
The three days, four days, inthe course of four days, how
many times did you orderfettuccine Alfredo?

Nalee (21:46):
Ah, that's funny.
We actually made Alfredo fordinner.
Yeah, we made our dinner for ohmy God, I can't even talk we
made Alfredo for dinner, I thinkon Friday night, okay.
And then on Saturday we went tothis place called I forgot what

(22:07):
it's called, it's like Calmitosor something like that, and
it's kind of like a bougierestaurant.
It's an upscale restaurant.
I got the lobster ravioli but,bitch, I regret it so much.
I should have gotten the primerib with the filet mignon.

Anthony (22:23):
Was it not good?

Nalee (22:24):
No, the lobster, like okay, in the description they
said they put a generous amountof lobster on it.
My shit looks so fucking sadLike it was like maybe one,
maybe two pieces of lobster onthere, yeah, and I was like ugh,
because I was contemplatingbetween that or the prime rib or

(22:44):
the filet mignon.
But when they brought the filetmignon out, I'm like bitch, I
fucked up.
I fucked up so hard.
I should have just got thefucking steak, because the days
that we went we didn't reallyeat meat, and I love eating meat
.
You love eating meat I loveeating meat.

Anthony (23:01):
Why did you say that?
So like meat.

Nalee (23:04):
Yeah, I try not to say but I knew what you was thinking
.
I was not yeah, and so then Iwas like, oh, I should have
gotten it.
But then I'm like it's fine.
I mean, the ravioli itself isreally good.
I was just disappointed thatthey didn't put much lobster
into the sauce.
But the, that would bedisappointing.
Yeah, it was kind of yeah, butother than that, I think it was

(23:27):
fine.
Than that, I think it was fine.
Um, but my vacation red flag umis over packing for sure,
because I, we went for like afour-day trip.

Anthony (23:38):
I packed for like seven days.
You don't have options though.

Nalee (23:39):
Yes, I do have options, that's true, but my fucking
luggage almost didn't fit likeevery time I was putting clothes
in it, like it wouldn't fit anyof my shit.
So I had to like take it out,put it back in.
Take it out, put it back in.
So either one, I need to likeget a bigger luggage and just
bite the bullet and pay for thebig luggage as a bag excuse me a

(24:02):
check-in bag whatever, or Ineed to just really like get
skinny and get smaller clothes,which is probably Girl.

Anthony (24:09):
You and I both need to get skinny.

Nalee (24:11):
What smaller clothes, which is probably girl you and I
both in our minds, yeah, andthen I do have another one which
definitely was a big eye-burnerfor me in this trip was like
bringing good shoes, like for meI do I feel like I do prep
pretty good shoes.
However, the sandal that Ibrought like I brought, I wore
tennis shoes and the sandals,but the sandals that I brought

(24:34):
was like those, um, velcrosandals that strappies yeah, the
strappies.
And so then when we were comingback from the pool that was at
the airbnb, my feet was slipperyso I kind of slipped on it and
the fucking velcro like rippedapart.
So I'm like, yeah, I'm trashingthis shit away.
So always prepare good shoeswhen you guys travel and when

(24:55):
you go to the beach, make sureif you're getting those
strappies, you ain't gonna slipon it.
Or just like, just settle forcrocs, like it's easy to take
off, it's easy to put on.
Crocs are flip-flops because,like, if you're fat like me and
you have a big body and smallfeet, like you need comfortable

(25:16):
shoes too, so I feel like Crocsare a good like alternative for
that.

Anthony (25:20):
I agree with that, yeah , and so we're endorsing Crocs
now right, yes.
Okay, Sponsor us.
People have like a very likelove, hate relationship with
Crocs and I don't know.
I used to make fun of themuntil Megan that we worked with

(25:41):
bought me a pair.

Nalee (25:43):
She bought you your first pair of Crocs.

Anthony (25:45):
She bought me my first pair of Crocs.
Oh, that's so sweet.

Nalee (25:48):
Oh yeah, I remember what it was.
They were maroon.
Yes, oh, that's so sweet.
Oh yeah, I remember what it was.
They were maroon.
Yes, oh, good old God, good oldyeah.

Anthony (25:55):
I brought those on vacation.
They were so comfortable.
I stopped making fun of themafter that point, but people
still made fun of me becauseapparently Crocs are not cool.

Nalee (26:04):
Yeah, all right, all right.
So what's up?
What's on the playlist?

Anthony (26:09):
Yeah, this segment is called Too Much or Just Enough.
So basically, we're just goingto take turns, we're going to
share personal hot takes anddecide if it's too much or just
enough.
Chaos, all right.
Okay, so I will go first withthe first one that I got.
Okay, so couples who traveltogether too soon are asking for

(26:30):
emotional disaster Thoughts.

Nalee (26:33):
For me.
I feel like you have to kind ofI don't have one answer for
this I feel like, if it's, ifit's like, let's say I'm
speaking from experience, likeif you know, b and I personally
like he was like my firstboyfriend and then we kind of
broke up, kind of mingled withother people and then we got

(26:54):
back together.
So we already have that history.
But like going on our becausewe were long distance but going
on our first actual triptogether definitely locked us in
.
I felt like but okay.

Anthony (27:04):
So how long were you guys together before you went on
your first trip?

Nalee (27:07):
well, we were.
We were like high school, so wewere like I would say nine, ten
months, and then when we gotback together, we went traveling
within like a month from whenwe got back together.

Anthony (27:18):
Okay, but that's different because you guys had
the history.

Nalee (27:21):
I guess.
But we were kids.
So it's different.
Because when you're an adult,like, you know what you like.
You know like sexually, likewhat's attractive to you.
You know what I mean.
Because I feel like when you'rein an adult relationship,
sexual attraction is a big thing, like when you're kids, you're
just like, oh, whoever touchesme and breathes on me, yes,
that's it is that how it was foryou?

(27:41):
no, he can breathe on me.
He lived in california and Ilived in minnesota.
But I think for us back then itwas more of like the emotional
connection, cause you're like,oh my God, I'm so depressed but
I love you and I miss you.
But now, like, as you're anadult, like you have bigger
things to worry about, like hey,like what's your finances?
Like you know, like are youemotionally available?

(28:02):
Those kinds of things that youtake into consideration, not
like when you're in little kids.
So I feel like sometimes like atrip like that will make or
break your relationship.
But on the latter, I will sayif you don't have history, like
let's just say I would say, ifyou guys have been together for
at least like maybe six or sevenmonths, then yeah, taking a

(28:24):
trip is fine, but I feel likeanything earlier than that is
too soon for me yeah, and that'sexactly where I am is like I
don't know that I couldnecessarily date somebody and
then, like you know a month, andbe like, hey, let's go to miami
for the weekend or somethinglike that.

Anthony (28:42):
Just, I mean, you think about all of the costs that's
included, you at your airfarehotel, and then it's like what
happens when you get there andyou find out your, your travel
styles don't mesh yeah, okay orsomething.

Nalee (29:00):
And then it's like okay.

Anthony (29:01):
Well, what do I do now?

Nalee (29:02):
yeah, I mean, if you're taking me to destin florida,
baby, it's a done deal.
It's a done deal two months in,we're gonna destine, I got you,
boo, I'm used for life.

Anthony (29:14):
I will take me to florida and I will, I will, eat
out of the palm of your hand allright, let's see I do have one
too.

Nalee (29:23):
Um, all right, so texting back immediately, does that
give you like desperate energy,yes or no?

Anthony (29:31):
Depending on the situation.
Yes, okay, and that says a lotabout me, because I normally
will respond immediately.

Nalee (29:40):
Okay.

Anthony (29:41):
But so maybe I'm just desperate, I don't know.

Nalee (29:46):
I don't think so.

Anthony (29:47):
Maybe I'm desperate for attention.
But I think that it makes adifference what the message is
like.
What are you responding to?
Because sometimes you can lookat your phone and it's like,
well, I don't need to answerthis right away, so why, yeah,
should I?

Nalee (30:01):
I don't know.
I feel like I don't think it'sdesperate, unless it's from an
ex.
You know what I mean.
Like if an ex is texting youand you're like, oh he's, he
wants this booty, then I'm gonnalike text right away that, yeah
, maybe a little bit girl, youneed to like check yourself a
little bit before you wreckyourself, do you really talk to
your exes too some people do.
Some people do talk to theirexes.

(30:24):
They're friendly or they'remutual.
Your tone sounds pointed I mean, I'm not judging nobody.
I'm just saying in this context,like you're not desperate, I'm
just saying you need a littledesperate yeah I feel, but I
feel like, um, for me itwouldn't be considered desperate
, like if I'm just those type ofpeople, like if I, if I like,

(30:46):
write to you, I I would love foryou to respond to me right away
, because I would be theresitting by the phone and be like
, what is this bitch doing?
That is so that she's so busyshe can't like respond back to
me.
Like what's going on?

Anthony (30:56):
Okay, I will say that is one thing about texting is
and that's the one thing that Ilove about texting is you can
respond without actuallyresponding.
So you know what I mean.
Like there's a difference, likeyou can text me something you
might need me need to borrowsomething, or asking if I have
something, and you want to comeover and get it, okay, well, you

(31:17):
don't need it right then.
And there I can.
Texting is so easy.
I could just respond to you andbe like yes, I have it, I'll
talk to you later about it.
Like, if I can't, text butdon't expect me to sit there.
I'm not going to stop what I'mdoing to sit there and have a
full on text conversation withyou.

Nalee (31:32):
Yeah, I get that.

Anthony (31:33):
Yeah.

Nalee (31:34):
But I'm just the type of people where I'm like bitch, you
can never be fucking too busyto respond to me.

Anthony (31:39):
Well, exactly With texting, you're never too busy.
Nobody is ever too busy to senda two second text message,
especially with all the optionsof doing a voice note, voice to
text.

Nalee (31:50):
And especially when I see you active on Facebook.
Ain't no way, ain't no reason,but that's besides the point.
I'm getting angry for nothing.

Anthony (31:58):
This is why I have my settings set to like don't ever
tell people I'm online.
I have it turned off on my cellphone so like nobody gets, like
they shouldn't be getting likea red message from me.

Nalee (32:09):
It's just me too, though I feel like that is my
personality.

Anthony (32:12):
Yeah.

Nalee (32:13):
I'm very like what is you doing?
What is you doing?
That's so important I should beyour number one priority.

Anthony (32:21):
What's going on, that's a social.
That's a social thing that wecould get into at a later date.
I guess I mean society wise.
Right now we live in a societywhere we all want that instant
gratification.

Nalee (32:31):
Yeah, and so if I'm texting you.

Anthony (32:33):
I want that instant response.
I want your attention.

Nalee (32:37):
But A hundred percent.
Yeah, sorry I blew up.
Yeah, I'll take it back, yeah.

Anthony (32:42):
Tone it down, just a little bit.
Let's bring it back to realitynow.
Okay Well, I got one more foryou.
Okay well, I got one more foryou.
You should judge someone Forhow they treat airport security.
Agree, disagree.

Nalee (32:55):
Let me see.
Well, I guess I don't know itdepends too Like again, this is
a gray area For me.

Anthony (33:04):
Love gray areas.
Ptsd is kicking in right nowMore than anybody knows, if you
know you know.

Nalee (33:10):
If you know, you know.

Anthony (33:12):
Yes, yes, ptsd is kicking in right now.

Nalee (33:12):
This is a gray area for me, more than anybody knows.
If you know, you know, if youknow you know, yeah, okay, yeah,
it's a gray area for me becauseone like, if the airport
security is treating me likeshit bitch, I'm going to reflect
, I'm going to be like sirexcuse me, I'm a fellow traveler
, sir but if, like, if it's justa good day and they're being
nice to you, of course, like,I'm going to reciprocate that

(33:35):
Like, for example, like on ourFlorida trip when we were coming
back, checking, going throughTSA, the guy that was like
checking our stuff he wassarcastic but I loved his energy
and like he they weren't meanor rude or anything Just said
okay, okay, move along.
But then, like the one when wewent to, Texas.

Anthony (33:52):
That's a text.
Oh yeah, the guy in Texas.

Nalee (33:55):
He was having a fucking bad day and it just fucking
started.
We were the first people thereand he was like move along, and
I'm like you didn't tell me todo anything, like I just got
here sir, I think we were likethe first ones in line too yeah,
I was just like when we firstgot there, they were also like
hold on, hold on, hold on yeah.
So I'm just like you can'texpect me to read your mind, but
it's just that thing of likecommon courtesy, like if you're

(34:16):
going to be nice to me, I'mgoing to be nice to you If
you're going to be rude to me,bitch you going to see I will
match your energy, Becausenobody wants to be at the
airport.
Yeah.

Anthony (34:28):
Let's be honest 100%.
The only good thing about beingat an airport is sitting there
and people watching.

Nalee (34:33):
Yeah, or waiting for your flight because you know you're
going to go somewhere exciting,exactly yes.

Anthony (34:37):
Getting to that beach.

Nalee (34:39):
Yeah.

Anthony (34:39):
But no, for real.
It's like I'm going to matchyour energy and that whole
saying that people are likemaybe they're having a bad day.
That People are like, well,maybe they're having a bad day,
that's fine.
Yeah, To an extent.

Nalee (34:51):
Yeah, because he wasn't just being rude to me, he was
being rude to like my sister.

Anthony (34:55):
I don't know if he was rude to you, but I don't know,
was that the Texas airport orthe one in Eau Claire, texas?

Nalee (35:00):
The one in Eau Claire.

Anthony (35:01):
The one in Eau Claire.

Nalee (35:02):
Yeah.

Anthony (35:05):
When we first got there .

Nalee (35:05):
Oh yeah, he stopped you my CPAP.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right.

Anthony (35:07):
And then I had issues with my drink beverage.

Nalee (35:11):
You just had issues of all sorts over there, yeah.
All my bags had to be doublescanned it was the only one that
you had issues with when wewent to Texas too, though,
wasn't it yeah?

Anthony (35:19):
I've never had an issue flying with my CPAP before,
until we flew out of our littlepodunk.

Nalee (35:30):
He's gonna do this little bitch something real dirty
right now, yeah, and he did, hedid.

Anthony (35:32):
You liked it, didn't you?
I was so, no, I was irritated,especially with the whole
beverage thing, because I swearI will maintain until the day
that I die.
This is a hill I will die on,he told me.
He said put your drinks in thecontainer oh, okay and I because
I remember, I so vividlyremember, standing there
thinking every other airportI've been through been you're
not supposed to bring in drinks.

Nalee (35:53):
Yeah, you're not supposed to.

Anthony (35:55):
Yeah, so when he said, put it in a bin and that's why
it stands, out so vividly in mymind.
He said to put it in a bin,okay.

Nalee (36:04):
And then they stopped me because I had a drink and you
can't bring liquids throughthere, bring and put your drink
in the bin, but you can't putyour drink in the bin.
I'm like exactly, he told me to.

Anthony (36:13):
I didn't argue that, but it is what it is.

Nalee (36:15):
You would have been arrested.
You would have been likebye-bye, I ain't going on this
flight.
Okay, but anyways, I have onelast one here for you.
Okay, it's funny, we're talkingabout this because of my
florida trip.
Okay, waking up at 5 am, doesthat mean you're better than me?
Yes, yes or no?

Anthony (36:36):
yeah, you're better than me.
Yes, no I don't think that itmakes a person better than
another person, but I think thatthe people that do wake up
earlier have more advantages andthat's true, you know you go
back to the whole saying theearly bird gets the worm.

Nalee (36:50):
Yeah, so I don't know, I don't think you're better than
me, but on the days that I dowake up earlier, personally I am
better than you.

Anthony (36:58):
When you wake up before me.

Nalee (36:59):
Yeah, I do, but that's never the truth, because I think
people who don't wake up before5 am they're just tired.

Anthony (37:12):
Like just tired, like they're just enjoying their
sleep before 5 am is likepushing it.
Yeah, I mean like the earliestthat anybody should get up is 5
am, the earliest earlier thanthat, no, the earliest anybody
should be getting up is freaking8 am.

Nalee (37:19):
We should be starting work at like 10 and ending it at
like 12 work two hours a dayfor five days a week yeah, sign
me up for present because I willendorse that, but just kidding
I do think that we need to havea shorter work day because
literally, or I mean, I get it,but like life is so like

(37:41):
pressing, already you don't wantto be working for eight hours.

Anthony (37:44):
You know what I mean and it's so short, it's so sad.
I was thinking about this theother day because I was like I
was looking at my portfolio, my401, 401k, and I was thinking to
myself, you know, they ask youlike at what age do you want to
retire?
And I was like God, I startedlooking at you know how much I
had in there, what you knowretirement age is, and when do I

(38:06):
want to retire?

Nalee (38:06):
And I'm like God, it's depressing, it is depressing.

Anthony (38:09):
I would fully endorse shorter work hours, and this
goes back to like we weretalking about earlier, how it
would be nice if it was like wewere in high school, where we
just go to work.

Nalee (38:20):
Don't have to worry about nothing.

Anthony (38:22):
September through May June.
That would be great.

Nalee (38:25):
Yeah, all right.
So I do have a little game herefor you too.
I love games.
It's a text or leave on red.
And pretty much, I'm just goingto ask you a question and
you're just going to tell me ifyou're going to text back or if
you would leave it on red.
Okay, the first one if theyVenmo you, sorry, if they Venmo

(38:48):
you $1 with a sad emoji, wouldyou text back or would you leave
it on red?

Anthony (38:55):
Leave it on red.
Why?
Because that's the one thingthat I don't understand about
Venmo is why do people care orneed to know who you're paying,
what you're paying them for?

Nalee (39:09):
how much you're paying them.

Anthony (39:10):
I agree, I think that's so weird in my mind that I need
to look at an app and see oh,Melissa just paid Cindy $15 for
a movie ticket.

Nalee (39:26):
Yeah.

Anthony (39:27):
I don't care.

Nalee (39:28):
Why do they do that, though?
I don't know?
Are they trying to make it intolike a social media thing?
I don't care.
Why do they do that, though, Idon't know.
Are they trying to make it intolike a social media thing?

Anthony (39:32):
I have no idea.
I could not tell you.
I don't get it.
Anytime I send money on Venmo,I make it private.

Nalee (39:39):
Oh, I didn't know they had that feature, to be honest,
oh yeah, I mean, if somebodyVen's my 99?
Yeah.
Why isn't it even 100?
Yeah.

Anthony (39:50):
Good God, what are you thinking?
Yeah, but no, okay.
So somebody Venmo's you likewith a sad face emoji, like.
On the other hand, that's alsothem like I feel like I need
attention.
Yeah, I'm sad.
Ask me what's wrong.

Nalee (40:05):
I'll give you attention if you give me $99.

Anthony (40:07):
Hello, so you would respond to that give you
attention, if you give me $99.
Hello, so you would respond tothat I would.

Nalee (40:12):
I'd be like $99 and I will entertain you for one
minute Go $99 more and you getto tell me why you're sad.
Period.
Here's another one.
Okay, if they take you a memethat's clearly about your last
argument, would you text orwould you leave it on read?

Anthony (40:32):
I would leave that on read, why, if we had an argument
and we're in the middle of saidargument and a resolution
hasn't been made and you'retagging me in a meme about it, I
don't give a shit.

Nalee (40:49):
Really no.

Anthony (40:51):
It's like you're stirring the pot right now,
especially if it's somethingthat's like Pressing to you.
Well, if it's like I had myview and you had your view and
you're sharing a meme, okay,that supports your view or is
mocking my view?
Okay.

Nalee (41:05):
Bitch, I don't have to touch this.
Like, what if it was me?
Like, because you know me likeI try to make a joke out of
every fucking situation, yeahwhat if I text you like a meme
about something really stupid,but it was about our last
argument like would you still belike, bitch, fuck you.
Or like would you be like, okay, now this bitch is trying to
settle it I feel like I wouldhave to know what the meme is

(41:29):
okay like because is it?

Anthony (41:30):
is it like a point blank meme that you're trying to
make light of the situation, oris it something that you might
that can be misconstrued?

Nalee (41:38):
as yeah, that's a good question.
That's a good answer If it'ssomething that can't be
misconstrued and it's clearlyfunny.

Anthony (41:47):
I probably will still leave it on red, but I will
respond at a later time, Okay.

Nalee (41:51):
Yeah, I'd probably be the same thing or do the same thing
, whereas then, like, weliterally had like an argument
about it.
And for me, I don't argue abouta lot of things.
I usually let shit slide.
Maybe that's why some peoplethink like I'm a rug to walk on
or whatever.
But yeah, I normally don't.
I give a lot of things a pass.

(42:13):
But if you're gonna like, sendme a meme about something we
just argued about, bitch, I'mcutting you out, like, yeah,
that's it for me.
Like, and it's funny because,um, yes, this podcast is about
us and me, me, me, me, but like,um, again, I feel like I'm a
very giving person, but when yousend me things that ticks me

(42:34):
off or I'm like, yeah, like weliterally just had a fucking
argument about it and I had Icreated anger out of this
argument, I'm not gonna respondto you.
Yeah, that'll be like mycutting point.
Like, yeah, this ain't it forme.

Anthony (42:49):
Well, especially when it's like when you're friends,
if you're real friends, you'regoing to know like what not to
do 100%.

Nalee (42:58):
And what to do, like, oh, this is going to tick him off,
I'm not going to do that.
Yeah, okay.

Anthony (43:03):
Like so I mean, I feel like that's going to be,
especially if it's somethinglike Especially if it's
something like oh, we just hadan argument about this, you're
my friend and here you areintentionally trying to piss me
off.
What kind of friendship is that?

Nalee (43:14):
Right, right, okay, I have one last one here for you.
You get this text.
I know we haven't talked in awhile, but I'm getting married.
Can you come?
And this is from an ex Textback or leave on read.

Anthony (43:34):
I'm going to have to analyze that entire situation a
little bit more.
Only because there's I feel likethere's going to be factors
that come into play here.
Like did we end on good terms?
Are we even friends?
When's the last time I talkedto you?
Did we break up 10 years ago?
And I haven't heard from you inthe last nine?

(43:56):
And all of a sudden it's likehey, do you want to come to my
wedding?
Um, those are all things thatI'm going to weigh out, but if,
if, gone to my head, I had toanswer this, I would say if we
ended on good terms, yes, Iwould consider going.

Nalee (44:14):
Okay, it's gonna be a no for me.
I wouldn't leave that on.
Read, like my good friend Ted,from how I Met your Mother, like
a big episode in that was hewas dating this girl named
Stella.
They were getting engaged andsomehow her ex came to the
wedding and she left with him,with the ex, and he got left at

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the altar.
For me, never invited an ex toa wedding Like whether you left
on mutual terms or whatnot, likeI feel like there's a lot of
history and when your emotionsare heightened from preparing
the wedding, from having familyand friends there, just being in
a wedding setting, in general,I feel like there's a lot of

(44:57):
things that comes into play andI would never invite an extra
wedding.

Anthony (45:01):
Okay, so let's look at this from a different
perspective.
Okay, so you can also considerthat a challenge, because if the
person that you're engaged tois their ex is coming to the
wedding, that's more of achallenge for your relationship,
and couldn't that potentiallybe a favor to you?
I guess, I mean if they'regoing to leave you at the altar

(45:24):
for their ex because their exshowed up at the wedding.
Old feelings came up.

Nalee (45:26):
I mean well, that was just an example.
No, I know no, but I'm justsaying like, like.

Anthony (45:32):
On the other hand, you potentially just dodged a bullet
I guess that's true.
Like it definitely tests yourlike your relationship but in
general how confident are you inyour relationship?

Nalee (45:42):
yeah, in general, I just I just feel like exes shouldn't
come, because there could beseveral things like, for example
, like my ex he was, he was ahorrible person and I would do
anything on this earth to avoidhim, and things like that.
Like, let's say, if he gotmarried to my cousin or whatever
and they were a couple now andthey're coming there, I would be

(46:03):
like fuck you, you ain't comingto my wedding, whether or not
you're with my cousin or not,like my best cousin whatever.
You know what I mean, and that'shypothetical.

Anthony (46:13):
Right, right.
Yeah, that would be a piss poorcousin if they started dating
your ex.

Nalee (46:17):
She'd be dumb as fuck, especially because I've heard
the stories and he did not seemlike a good guy.
But it's scenarios like that, Ithink, it's just when you're
already heightened in emotions,especially preparing for a
wedding, because it's not asmall thing, it's a big thing.
I think a lot of things shouldcome into play, and for me it's

(46:38):
a no.

Anthony (46:39):
Well, and that's the beautiful thing, like you said,
emotions are heightened.
There's a lot that goes into awedding and that, again, is
going to test your relationshipyeah okay.
Well, while we were sittinghere and I, I came up with a
couple okay, let's see in theback of my mind here.

Nalee (46:57):
Okay.

Anthony (46:58):
You get a text message from somebody and they send you
a voice note unprompted, noreason.
You weren't expecting it, butthey sent you a voice note
that's two minutes long.
Okay, text's back.
Or are you going to leave thaton read?

Nalee (47:16):
I'm going to read it because what if it's you who was
in the middle of a car crashand you accidentally recorded it
?
You know what I mean.

Anthony (47:24):
Middle of a car crash.
My first thought is I'm goingto send a voice note.

Nalee (47:27):
Yeah, yeah, you could have accidentally pressed it.
Yeah, but I'm also a nosy bitch, so I'm going to listen to it
and I will be like, oh, either Iwill listen to it and respond
to it, or I'll listen to it andrespond to it, or I'll listen to
it and you'll know whathappened?

Anthony (47:41):
So if it was an unprompted two-minute voice note
from me and I was in anaccident, are you leaving me on
read?

Nalee (47:49):
I'm not leaving you on read.

Anthony (47:50):
Are you calling 911?
Are you calling?

Nalee (47:51):
911?
.
I'm calling 911.
Okay.

Anthony (47:53):
Yeah.

Nalee (47:54):
Or it could be you and your boo doing it and I'm like I
want to see how Anthony soundslike when he's huffing and
puffing.

Anthony (48:01):
I'm not Making a baby.
I'm not Paris Hilton.
She's literally like on herphone.

Nalee (48:10):
Go on.

Anthony (48:11):
Is that normal?

Nalee (48:12):
No.

Anthony (48:13):
Like if I'm having sex, my phone isn't in my hands.

Nalee (48:16):
Oh, some people do that.

Anthony (48:17):
That's weird.

Nalee (48:18):
I feel like some people's into that.
That's weird.
They're in the middle of doingit and they're like taking
videos of themselves or how theyreact and stuff like that.
Bye, okay, okay, fans, baby,okay, but that's nowadays,
that's like yeah 2024.

Anthony (48:29):
This was back in the early 2000s where she called my
mama.
What did she have?
What was that phone?
Blackberry, blackberry, ablackberry, uh, blackberry so
you know she wasn't on her phonefor selfies.

Nalee (48:42):
Well, it's not her fault.
Her man wasn't entertaining her, that's not him.

Anthony (48:47):
Girl, you need to go back and watch that video and
tell me he was not entertainingher.

Nalee (48:51):
I feel like she was just a rich girl who is a blonde.

Anthony (48:53):
She was so skinny A rich blonde skinny girl, she did
it right, though she played herwhole dumb baby voice blonde
girl, people like that shit,yeah, they ate that shit up.
She's actually a really smartbusinesswoman.

Nalee (49:06):
She is really smart.
Yeah, I mean, she is reallypretty.
Though I will say that she'sreally pretty.
You don't think she's pretty?
No, oh, I think she's reallypretty.

Anthony (49:15):
Back then or now.

Nalee (49:18):
She looks the same to me.

Anthony (49:19):
Really.

Nalee (49:19):
Just a little bit more.

Anthony (49:21):
Botoxed and lip fillers .

Nalee (49:23):
You know what I mean, but I still think she's pretty, I
think.

Anthony (49:27):
Kim is prettier than her, though Kim is prettier.
Yeah, I think Khloe is prettierthan Kim, though Can we please
do an episode where we like?
We speak in their voices, nowhere we go through, like Kim
Kardashian, through the decadesor through the years, oh yeah.
And like rate her on level ofhotness Okay, because she's
definitely gotten better withage.

Nalee (49:45):
Oh yeah, I definitely, and congrats to her on her
degree.

Anthony (49:51):
Yes, I just saw that she graduated.

Nalee (49:52):
Yes, girl, Good for you.
Like I love that she is a.
She's literally at the prime ofher life right now.

Anthony (49:59):
She is like I get it.
She does a lot of stupid shit,but like people give her a
really hard time, which I, Iwill admit, I gave her a hard
time, like in the beginning,because I was like you are just
emulating parasol, she's good atmarketing herself like him.

Nalee (50:13):
Yeah, yeah, but regardless, like congratulations
, like going through school isespecially in this time, yeah,
with kids, her career being afull-time mom being a celebrity
and like I mean honestly I don'tknow how legit the degree is, I
don't know if they pay for theycould pay for that shit, but
like I've been hearing herworking on it for the past

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couple of years already.

Anthony (50:37):
So I mean hopefully it's legit.

Nalee (50:38):
but yeah, Congrats girl.
Like that's amazing.

Anthony (50:40):
Yeah.
So good for her, yeah, good forher.
So yeah, I would listen to it Iwould listen to it back to me
in the car accident um, okay so,let's do one more and then we
can move on.
Okay, okay so.
So you come across a friend whothey post a reel with their ex,

(51:04):
but the caption says growth.

Nalee (51:08):
Bitch, I'm judging you.

Anthony (51:10):
You're judging, I'm judging you, I'm judging too.

Nalee (51:12):
Yeah, I'm listening and I'm judging you, I'm seeing and
I'm judging you.
One because, bitch, that is notgrowth.
You're going back to eat thesame trash you just threw away.
All I'm gonna say is and thismight be a hot take, but if
you're taking photos With yourex, bitch, 100% You're still
fucking your ex.

(51:32):
That's it.
Ain't no way you're not fuckinghim and taking photos with him
and saying growth, ain't nofucking way.
You think so yeah, like, no,okay.

Anthony (51:41):
When you think so yeah, like, no, like okay okay when
you say that, is it because ofthe caption that you're saying?

Nalee (51:46):
you're still fucking no, I think, because I mean, let's
just say like again.

Anthony (51:50):
What if you broke up on good terms?
You're out at the bar in a townthat you graduated high school
from, you left, and now you'reback for the summer or back for
a holiday, and you're out at thebar and you run into your ex
because you out for a holiday.

Nalee (52:05):
I don't know, it could just be me.
Maybe I've had like badrelationships in the past.
I don't know, call it trustissues, whatever, but I
personally don't think that youcould be friends with an ex.
I don't think you could bemutual with an ex.
Again, it comes to that history.
Maybe you're mature or maybeyou're thinking mature, but it
just takes one action one littlerub, rub, one little slip, slip

(52:25):
like next thing, you know he'sgonna have a little dip dip.

Anthony (52:28):
Yeah, you know what I mean you're gonna have a little
holiday.

Nalee (52:32):
But yeah, I personally don't believe in that um, it's
the thing of.
I mean I guess I shouldn't betalking too much because
obviously we did a little slipslip, a little dip dip.
Here we are, um, but that'sexactly the point.

Anthony (52:47):
Circumstances matter though, because isn't B your ex?

Nalee (52:49):
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
So that's the thing is thatlike there's history, and like
it just takes a couple of goodwords for you to get back into
their arms, cause they know howyou are, that's true.
They know how to manipulate you, or they know how to like
compliment you in ways whereyou're like oh yeah, they know
what to say, how to say it, whento say it Exactly so.

(53:10):
That's my thing, like I'm notsaying only men do this, girls
do it, ladies do it too.
Okay, I Ladies do it too.
Okay, I was going to say yeah,but I'm saying that like if you
are with an ex, they alreadyknow who you are.
If they really want a piece ofyou again, they will know
exactly what to say to you toget it.

Anthony (53:38):
Unless unless and going back to the question at hand
unless you actually had growth.
I mean, what if you've hadenough growth to be like?
I know what he's going to say,how he's going to say it, what
he's going to try and do Well,if you had growth, he wouldn't
be taking photos with him.

Nalee (53:50):
Yeah, that's true, You'd be like ew pass.
Yeah, In my view, if you havegrowth, you wouldn't be nowhere
near that person.
Yeah, I think I'm the same way.

Anthony (54:02):
So no, I'm judging you.

Nalee (54:02):
It was a bad relationship yeah, yeah, like there are
girls out there and like I couldjust imagine the scenario of
like a girl again, I am a girl'sgirl too, but I'm just saying
hypothetically I could imaginelike a type of girl who's been
abused, who's been like, um,talked down to with a very toxic
man, but she's been talked intohaving him around and then she

(54:26):
thinks that, oh, like you knowwhat, I don't need him, I'm
better for it.
But the moment she takes aphoto with him, she thinks that,
oh damn, like we could.
We could have been somethingelse and then spirals on into
something else because you'reright.

Anthony (54:38):
It's so easy to like just take a photo and it's like
stepping back in time, steppingback into what you already know.
Exactly Because regardless ofhow much growth you've had, you
can easily step back into it.

Nalee (54:50):
It's like riding a bike.
Yep, so muscle memory baby.
To me if it's an ex leaving inthe past, unless you're B.
Unless you're B, unless you'reB, bring him into an ex, leaving
in the past, unless you'll be,unless you're being, unless
you're bringing them into yourfuture.

Anthony (55:04):
Yes, but yeah, it's enough for me.
Yeah, anyways, I think I'mright there with you yeah, leave
the past to the past that'sright.
It's an ex for a reason yes allright.
So yeah, long story short,leave your ex in the group chat
archives, where they belong.
Period we not dragging no olddrama into new sunshine, because

(55:27):
whether we end up on a plane, abeach or just crying in Target,
summer is still ours.

Nalee (55:34):
A hundred percent yes.
And also, juneteenth is comingup, so get ready to celebrate
freedom and style, becausenothing says liberation like
living your best life.
Support black businesses,educate yourself and remember.
Freedom looks fabulous in this.
Catch you next time, hoes you.