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Anthony (00:13):
From celebrities wilding on social media to
trends that live and die in 24hours.
Pop culture never sleeps, andneither do the opinions.
Today we're diving into themess the memes and the moments
that made us gasp, cringe andobsess.
Buckle up, because we've gothot takes and no chill.

Nalee (00:32):
Today's forecast hot takes with 100% chance of pop
culture delusion.

Anthony (00:39):
Disclaimer opinions ahead.
If we roast, your fave, pleaseknow it's with love or at least
solid reasoning.

Nalee (00:47):
All right, so we're going to jump into a pop culture
moment, also known as what inthe PR stunt is going on now.
My first one is American HorrorStory.
Do you think Kim ruined it?

Anthony (01:03):
No, I actually think she did amazing really an
american horror story.
I think the plot line of thelast season was horrible.

Nalee (01:12):
Okay, um, because I think that was based off of a book,
actually was it yeah hmm, I Ithink I only watched the, the
most recent one, that she wasn't, or like the first one that she
was, in with the baby and stuff.

Anthony (01:27):
Yeah.

Nalee (01:27):
Oh, it's still the same one.
Yeah, that's the only one thatshe's done.
Oh, okay, I thought sheactually was pretty good at
acting.

Anthony (01:34):
Yeah, she was really good, I was impressed.

Nalee (01:36):
So I'm like to me.
I don't think she like floppedor anything.
I thought she did great.
I don't think she ruined it atall either.

Anthony (01:44):
Unpopular opinion what I will say on American Horror
Story, because you know I lovethat show.

Nalee (01:48):
Yeah, same Did, Did it's kind of gone downhill, oh okay.

Anthony (01:52):
It's kind of gone downhill.
Ryan Murphy needs to hang upthat hat.
I will agree with that, ladyGaga.

Nalee (02:00):
You don't like her.

Anthony (02:01):
I like Lady Gaga.
She wasn't good for AmericanHorror Story.

Nalee (02:04):
Oh, you don't think so.

Anthony (02:05):
No, oh, I was so excited and they hyped it up so
much.
They're like oh, lady Gaga,she's going to be in American
Horror Story, it's going to begreat.
Yeah, I watched the season thefirst season that she was in and
I was like the hotel one.
Is that the first one?

(02:26):
That it was?
I think so.
Yeah, with the kids.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I watched itand I was like, oh, okay, so
she's on screen for about 10minutes the entire freaking
season.

Nalee (02:30):
Yeah, that's true.

Anthony (02:32):
And then the next season was that Roanoke, where I
think she got about like twominutes the entire fucking
season.
Yeah, she was like, wasn't itRoanoke?
The one where there was like acreature that would come at
night, or a witch?
I don't think that was Roanoke.
She was the witch.

Nalee (02:48):
I thought Roanoke was a saint asylum one.

Anthony (02:52):
No, Roanoke was the village.

Nalee (02:55):
I don't think I've seen that one.
Oh, you haven't seen that one,or maybe I have.

Anthony (02:58):
It was a two-part season, I believe.

Nalee (03:01):
Okay, maybe I haven't seen that one.
Yeah, season I believe.

Anthony (03:03):
Okay, maybe I haven't seen that one.

Nalee (03:03):
Yeah, that one was horrible, but I do agree with
you.
They did not put her in therefor long enough, like she came
in the last.
Yeah, you never got to see her.
She came on the last episodefor like ten minutes, like you
said.

Anthony (03:14):
Personal opinion.
I think that was Ryan Murphytrying to save face for the show
because he knew the show wasgoing downhill after he lost a
lot sarah paulson oh, she was sogood who's our boy?

Nalee (03:26):
um evan peters.

Anthony (03:28):
Emma roberts, I love him, yeah, uh you, oh, and the
big one we can't forget, jessicalang.

Nalee (03:33):
Oh yeah, I love jessica lang girl.
I can't.
She is a fucking masterpiece.
She literally like I think alot of people say that, like
from what I've heard, that sirpaulson was one who ran the show
, but me 100 was jessica langand evan peters.
They ran that shit like yes,they did such a good job.
I mean, don't get me wrong, Ilove sir paulson too.

Anthony (03:56):
I love them.

Nalee (03:56):
I love the meme where she's smoking in the dark and
like staying up like that's me.
Yes, that's me, but JessicaLange ran that shit, she was the
Supreme.

Anthony (04:07):
That's where he fucked up.
She is the Supreme.
Yeah, but yeah, yeah, no.
I think, kim, it's too late forAmerican Horror Story, but I
think that she could havepotentially revived the show.

Nalee (04:19):
I agree when she slapped her, get it together.

Anthony (04:24):
You know, that's just her playing her mom.

Nalee (04:27):
This is what Kris Jenner does Bitch.
Yeah, I love it.
I think she did great.

Anthony (04:33):
Yeah, she was really good.

Nalee (04:35):
Alright.
My second one is TimotheeChalamet and Kylie Jenner still
together.
I didn't think they'd last thislong.
To be honest, Me neither.
They're such opposites.
Kylie Jenner still together.
I didn't think they'd last thislong to be honest, me neither.
Yeah, they're such opposites.

Anthony (04:50):
Oh, they're too strong.

Nalee (04:50):
Do you think it's a PR stunt for them staying together?

Anthony (04:54):
Okay in the beginning I did.
I was like this is ridiculous,because he had a new movie
coming out.
She had whatever the fuck shewas doing.
I don't know, I'm not a fanMakeup.

Nalee (05:02):
I think I'm not a Kylie Jenner fan.
Okay, she was doing something.

Anthony (05:06):
She was doing something that her mom's making her do.
Yeah, but yeah, I thought itwas a publicity stunt to like
raise each other, but I meanthere's, I hate you.

Nalee (05:18):
What.

Anthony (05:20):
To raise each other.

Nalee (05:26):
Oh, oh, oh.
Like to raise.
Like their movie, I got it, Igot it.

Anthony (05:27):
And their makeup lines, oh, I thought you meant like
grooming or like raising eachother up like children?

Nalee (05:29):
no, no, no I guess you could take it that way too,
though I mean yeah, he does looklike a child he does.
I love timothy chalamet, thoughI know I love him.
I that could be a hill I'mwilling to die on, but I love
timothy chalamet oh, no, he'ssuch a good actor like I feel
like he's so versatile.
I feel like he is ourgeneration's leonardo dicaprio

(05:51):
or wait, like not leonardodicaprio, johnny depp yeah I'm
gonna disagree with that one.

Anthony (05:57):
I love him.
I'm sorry I can't I lovetimothy chalamet.
I will I will give you the factthat he is very what was the
word used?
Versatile Versatile in hisacting.

Nalee (06:08):
Sorry, it's not Timothy, it's Timote.
I had to correct it.

Anthony (06:11):
Is that how you say it?

Nalee (06:12):
Yeah, it's Timote Chalamet Are you serious.
Yeah.

Anthony (06:17):
Why do they call him Timote Chalamet though?

Nalee (06:19):
I think it's just because that's how it's spelled.
But it's Timote, but that's howit's spelled.

Anthony (06:22):
But it's Timothee, but that's how they say it.
At all the award shows they sayTimothee Chalamet.

Nalee (06:26):
Well, he did a video saying this is how you pronounce
my name it's Timothee ChalametPeople can say anything that
they want, and also Bee alwayscorrects me oh is he a Timothee?

Anthony (06:42):
He's Timothee Chalamet.
Bye, no thanks, bye.
Bye, no thanks, bye.
I will say I did like him in.

Nalee (06:48):
He's a beautiful boy.
I like him Willy.

Anthony (06:51):
Wonka.

Nalee (06:52):
Willy Wonka, willy Wonka, willy Wonka.
It's Willy Wonka and theChocolate Factory.

Anthony (06:56):
I always used to get Willy Wonka and Charlie and the
Chocolate Factory Mixed up.

Nalee (07:01):
Oh yeah, it's just Willy Wonka.
The original was Charlie.

Anthony (07:03):
Charlie.

Nalee (07:04):
Yeah, but he sings and he there was this movie he did
that was gay, that he was gay.
I forgot what it was called.

Anthony (07:12):
Call Me by my Name, yeah, or Call Me by your Name.

Nalee (07:14):
It was interesting.

Anthony (07:16):
That was a good movie.

Nalee (07:17):
Bitch the fucking.
Was it an orange or agrapefruit?
I don't know what it was.
I thought it was a grapefruit.
Was it a grapefruit?
That scene was nasty.

Anthony (07:28):
Maybe I'm only thinking of grapefruit because of Girls
Trip.

Nalee (07:30):
Yeah, no, timothy Haddish is another story.
I fucking love that bitch.

Anthony (07:37):
I loved her.
But then I feel like she likewent on a cuckoo yeah, she was.
Those drugs were kicking in.
I don't know if it's drugs, butsomething was kicking in.
What about you?
Okay, my current pop culturemoments would be I have a couple
, I know you only had two but Ihad a couple.

(07:57):
I was seeing a lot last week ofthe Netflix's Ta-Dum event.

Nalee (08:02):
Oh yeah, what the fuck is that?

Anthony (08:04):
I think, that's new.
I didn't hear anything aboutthat.

Nalee (08:07):
Because you know how, like Netflix, when it comes on
it goes ta-dum yeah.
So I think it's that.

Anthony (08:11):
But I don't remember seeing any like advertising for
it, and then it was like, all ofa sudden, they're like oh,
we're live at the Netflix.

Nalee (08:17):
Yeah, did they have an event show on?

Anthony (08:20):
I thought so I didn't see any.
I just saw it on TikTok, Iguess.

Nalee (08:24):
Oh, I just saw that too, but maybe it's a private event
for those celebrities that areon Netflix that aren't like big
movie stars.

Anthony (08:32):
Wouldn't you want to advertise that more?
So I guess this isn't really aPR stunt, but it's a PR
curiosity.
A PR nightmare, because itwasn't advertised.

Nalee (08:42):
Yeah, it looked like fun, though, though it did look like
fun a couple of things I saw.

Anthony (08:47):
I've always wondered how do I, how would I go about
getting tickets to get to golike this is our ticket.

Nalee (08:53):
This podcast, this podcast.

Anthony (08:55):
This is gonna be our ticket if we talk enough about
it, or like even to go to likethe vmas you ever like, watch
the music awards, and you seeall these people.
I'm like how the fuck do thesepeople get tickets?

Nalee (09:05):
it's probably something you have to look into like
months ahead yeah, oh, I'm sure,because I would assume it's
just kind of like a on, like alate night show, like when we
went to like drewberry more.
I had to get that like say thatagain drewberry more.
Drewberry more, I don't know.
I love you, drew Barrymore.
Drew Barrymore, drew Barrymore,however you pronounce it.

(09:28):
Yeah, I loved her show, butit's kind of like that we booked
a month or two ahead and thenyou just secure a free seat.
Well, that was all you did.
Yeah, but you had to make sureto show up on time, because if
you didn't, then bye, and I'msure with the vma is like if you

(09:51):
want to get like down there,you have to shell out and you
have to like yeah, you have tolook good yeah, you can't go
with a walmart dress.

Anthony (09:54):
Sorry, yeah, that'll be me.
Um, okay, this kind of tiesback into your original question
was another of mine was I seethat wednesday season two is
coming out on netflix soon,which I'm really excited about.
I know you weren't big on theWednesday.

Nalee (10:06):
Oh, I liked Wednesday.
You liked it, I did yes, oh, itwas.

Anthony (10:09):
Melissa, that didn't like it.

Nalee (10:09):
Yeah, I liked it because I had to rewatch it, but I liked
it To get into it.
Yeah.

Anthony (10:13):
Yeah, at first I was kind of iffy about it yeah.
It was so good that Lady Gagais supposed to be in season two,
I think she is because she waspremiering with, whatever her
face, jenna Ortega, jenna Ortega.

Nalee (10:30):
And she performed her most recent song that
everybody's been liking.

Anthony (10:35):
I forgot what it's called Abracadabra, yeah.

Nalee (10:38):
She was performing that at the Tadum event.

Anthony (10:40):
Oh, she was, yeah, and Jenna Ortega, she walked her out
.
Oh, that's right, because shehad that huge-ass dress that
opened up.
Yep, yes.

Nalee (10:47):
So I mean, chances are she's probably gonna be in it.

Anthony (10:52):
Okay, but again screen time.
You're playing this game where,oh, we have Lady Gaga.
We signed her, she's gonna be inthe cast.
I watched I think it's been likeor three like teasers and the
official trailers for Wednesday,season two.
Uh-huh, I didn't fucking seeLady Gaga anywhere in it.
Well, what is the Okay?
what's the point?

(11:12):
I'm going to tell the world wegot Lady Gaga signed into the
cast for our show, but we're notgoing to advertise anymore
advertised anymore.

Nalee (11:27):
it's because lady gaga's so iconic that, like they just
put her there for like interestand then, like american horror
story, they put her in for 10minutes that's exactly what it
is yeah, that's exactly whatit's gonna be.

Anthony (11:34):
We're gonna watch the show, we're gonna see her for
five minutes, the entire fuckingseason.
She's gonna go and this, that'sit.
I love lady gaga, but I'm justgonna say you dumb as hell for
letting them use your name.
They're literally that's whatthey're doing.
They're using her to give theshow the views.

Nalee (11:51):
Maybe they paid her a pretty penny because Netflix
makes a lot of money, but still,yeah, I guess that's true.

Anthony (11:57):
What's?

Nalee (11:57):
the point Like advertise a little bit more.
Yeah, I said that wordadvertise a little bit, word
Advertiser Advertise yeah.

Anthony (12:02):
You look weird with your hood up right now.

Nalee (12:04):
Do, I Do, I look good, no , oh damn it.

Anthony (12:09):
And then, lastly, this is going to solidify the whole
PR stunt thing in Hollywood.
Kim Kardashian's weddings.

Nalee (12:18):
I can't Like, come on, I'm going to be honest, like I
guess, like people don't reallylike her, they're like, oh,
she's plastic.
Whatever my personal opinion, Ithink she's beautiful even with
the plastic and all yeah butbitch, how many times can you
get married exactly like?
That's a lot.
How many times is too much?

(12:40):
You know what I mean?

Anthony (12:41):
well, it's I don't even think it's necessarily the like
getting married part, becausesome people they do get married
multiple times.
It is what it is.

Nalee (12:50):
Maybe they want a taste of that kitty.

Anthony (12:52):
But to make a spectacle of it where you have to get
really big and stuff You've gotto be on the cover of the
magazines You've got to make.
We're going to do a specialKeeping Up with the Kardashians
episode so everyone can see youget married Is special Keeping
Up with the.

Nalee (13:04):
Kardashians episode, so everyone can see.
You get married.

Anthony (13:06):
Is she going to be married again?
Not that I know of, oh, okay,but I mean, it's just that, like
they made a big deal out of herwedding with Chris Humphries
yeah, she got all that money andher marriage lasted two months
before she filed for divorceyeah, Maybe it's for that money.

Nalee (13:24):
It's that PR stunt again.

Anthony (13:25):
That's what I'm saying.
Pr stunt, but yeah, that'scrazy.
So honestly, anyway, betweenKim's weddings, divorces, rerans
and plot twists, her love lifehas more reboots than Gossip
Girl.

Nalee (13:40):
Period.

Anthony (13:42):
And yet somehow it still manages to dominate
headlines like it's 2011.
Iconic Exhausting Maybe alittle bit of both.

Nalee (13:51):
Yeah, I'd say both.
But it's giving Museum exhibitLike we've seen it all but we
still walk through every timelike it's new and maybe that's
the real PR genius Recycling thesame drama and making it feel
fresh.
Can't relate, but can't lookaway.

Anthony (14:08):
Which actually brings us to our next segment, because
if Kim's marriages are aginglike reality TV wine coolers, it
begs the question.

Nalee (14:17):
What is aging well these days and what needs to be left
behind with low-rise jeans andBluetooth earpieces needs to be
left behind with low rise jeansand Bluetooth earpieces.

Anthony (14:30):
Welcome to what's aging well versus what isn't, where
we pit nostalgia against now andsee who survives the group chat
.

Nalee (14:34):
Well, for me, I personally love Angelina Jolie.
Like I've literally told methat if I could plastic surgery
my face as anybody in this wholeworld, it would be Angelina
Jolie.
Really, yeah, I fucking loveher, but she's, she's at this
point.
She's turned 50, but she isaging like fine fucking wine.
Like you know who else is agingbeautifully too Angela Bassett

(15:00):
oh, she's a queen yeah, she is aqueen.
She's literally have not agedin like the past 20 years.

Anthony (15:05):
No, I know she's literally immortal at this point
.
Every time I watch like 9-1-1with her in it.

Nalee (15:10):
She's so hot too.
I can't.

Anthony (15:12):
Her as the voodoo queen or whatever in American Horror.

Nalee (15:16):
Story American Horror Story.

Anthony (15:17):
Yeah, she looks so good , that did it for me.

Nalee (15:30):
I got a little tingle down, yes, but you know what
they say black don't crack,period.
She is not she.
And uh, viola davis, like Idon't know if you're a knight,
no, viola davis, I also reallylove her what does, she do?

Anthony (15:35):
she is um not always good with names of people.

Nalee (15:38):
No, she is how to get away with murder.
How to get away with murder.
I love her.

Anthony (15:43):
I never used to like her until I watched how to get
Away with Murder.
How to Get Away with Murder.
I love her.
I never used to like her untilI watched how to.

Nalee (15:46):
Get Away with Murder.
No, I fucking love her.
She is my spirit animal.
I could see that I love her.

Anthony (15:51):
Did you watch her in the movie?
There's an Amazon Prime moviewhere she plays the president of
the United States.
I have not.
You should watch it.
It's actually really good.
It's badass.

Nalee (16:02):
Not, you should watch it, it's actually really good it's
badass, but I mean I know it'sgoing to be good.
Like I have not seen any singleone of hers that has flopped
Like she is.
I'm going to say this I thinkshe is actually a better actress
than Angela Bassett, but no.
They also have their own niches.
I will say that.
But Angela Bassett, she's likethe badass sexy mommy where you

(16:26):
don't want to fuck with her.
But Viola Davis, she's likethat lawyer, that president
that's going to put you in yourplace.

Anthony (16:35):
Yeah, I can see that Viola Davis is kind of a boss
bitch.

Nalee (16:39):
Yeah, she's very versatile.

Anthony (16:43):
But speaking of Angela Bassett, do you know how old she
is?

Nalee (16:47):
I know she's like up there.
I think she's like 60 something, she's 66.
Yeah.

Anthony (16:52):
That is insane, and she is just gorgeous.

Nalee (16:55):
Whatever voodoo she on, please put it on me too, please.

Anthony (16:59):
Ooh, you just got to be black, like I said black, don't
crack honey.

Nalee (17:03):
Yeah, they're beautiful.
Literally they are like.
Honestly I was talking withthis to B because B is jealous
of just their build.
Black men they don't have to doa lot to look buff and big and
even when they're buff and bigthey look good.
And even black women, theirbodies shaped as a Coke bottle,

(17:26):
and here I'm over here lookinglike a fucking Oompa Loompa,
loompa, loompa.
Yeah, so I don't know, it'sthem genetics, man, they got
top-notch genetics.

Anthony (17:34):
They do have really good genetics.

Nalee (17:35):
Them teeth.
I can't.
Their teeth is so white.
Well, not even white, they'restraight.
Yeah, white, they're likestraight.
Yeah, sorry, we got.
I got a little, a little lost.
I was thinking about my idriselba up there.
I was waiting for that.
Yeah, I love idris elba.
He's so hot man, oh man yeah,nope, angela bassett for sure.

Anthony (17:55):
Yeah, okay, let's go back to the whole angelina jolie
thing with, uh, you wanting tohave her face yeah, like I love,
I love, like I think growing, Idon't know.
Of all people you would chooseher.

Nalee (18:06):
Yeah, I love her.
She's beautiful.
She is beautiful, but, like Ijust love her, I don't know what
it is.

Anthony (18:12):
She just has such strong features that.

Nalee (18:14):
I love her.
I don't even care, I don't know.

Anthony (18:16):
I thought you would have went for like a Gal.

Nalee (18:20):
Gadot.
She's really pretty, but she'slike, she know, Angelina Jolie.

Anthony (18:25):
That's all I'm going to tell you, angelina Jolie's a
shit.
Do you remember her making outwith her brother?

Nalee (18:30):
Angelina Jolie yeah, ew, no.

Anthony (18:32):
You didn't know that.

Nalee (18:33):
Ew.

Anthony (18:36):
They made out on like the red carpet.
Oh, did they I still love her.

Nalee (18:39):
I still love her.
Excuse you, who would you doyour face, as if you could like
do a imprint or like a copy ofthe face.
A copy of your face Like do aplastic surgery of your face
like them.

Anthony (18:56):
Ooh, Unscripted moment.
I'm just kidding.
I'm like I hate you.
Who would I?
I don't know.
Let me think about that one.
I know who.

Nalee (19:07):
I'd tell B to be, oh God, henry Cavill, henry Cavill.

Anthony (19:13):
He's my number one, johnny Bailey I don't know who
Johnny Bailey is.
Jonathan Bailey.

Nalee (19:18):
Bridgerton Wicked.
Oh, oh, yes, I know his.

Anthony (19:23):
Oh.

Nalee (19:23):
I'm disappointed in you.
I know him as Antony, yeah.

Anthony (19:27):
I'm Antony.

Nalee (19:29):
I love him.
He's so cute, but no, he's not.
No, henry.

Anthony (19:32):
Cavill.

Nalee (19:33):
Henry Cavill is like.
I can't even describe him.
I would just have to lay on himto know that's it.
I love him.
Sorry, B, I still love you too.

Anthony (19:49):
She's like I'm just kidding God.
That's a really good question.
Who?

Nalee (19:56):
would.

Anthony (19:56):
I.

Nalee (19:57):
You want us to recap back to this.

Anthony (20:00):
Yeah, I think I'll think about it Okay.
Yeah, I think I'll think aboutit.
Okay, In the what were.
What were Okay, well, my what'saging well versus what isn't is
.
I feel that old shows were moreauthentic and less filtered.
Oh, for sure Like comparingearlier shows to current, shows

(20:21):
like let's just use reality TVfor an example Okay, like the
Simple Life.
To like Love is Blind, or showslike that.

Nalee (20:29):
I've never seen the Simple.

Anthony (20:30):
Life You've never seen the Simple, oh my God.
That was like the okay.
Aside from MTV's, the RealWorld Never seen that either
that was like the like one ofthe first reality TV shows.
Oh was it.
It was like the 2000s it wasParis Hilton and Nicole Richie.
Okay, and of course it wasquote unquote, reality, but they

(20:52):
had their money taken away fromthem.

Nalee (20:54):
Okay.

Anthony (20:54):
And they went to live with the family in Arkansas and
they had to like do like realpeople jobs Like well, a camera
followed them around.

Nalee (21:03):
That makes me pissed.

Anthony (21:05):
Why.

Nalee (21:05):
Because I want to get my money taken away from me.

Anthony (21:10):
You do or don't.

Nalee (21:11):
I do because I want to even have the opportunity to
have money be taken away from me.

Anthony (21:15):
Yeah right, I'm sure it wasn't actually taken away, I'm
sure.
But yeah, I should like loan.
You Do you have a DVD player?
Do people still do DVDs?
But yeah, I should like loanyou?

Nalee (21:24):
Do you have a DVD player?
Do people still do DVDs?
I don't.
I could just look it up.
I'm sure they have it somewhere, maybe.
Yeah, but yeah, I love thatshow, but I do agree with you.
I feel like it definitely ismore authentic back then, though
, compared to now.

Anthony (21:38):
And now I get really turned off.
I don't know what's wrong withus as a society that we're so
fucking hard up for thesereality shows Like Love is Blind
, yeah, and um, what are theother?
What's the?

Nalee (21:49):
other Love Island and stuff like that.
Love Island.
I love Selling Sunset, though.
I love Selling Sunset yeah.

Anthony (21:54):
But it's all fake.
You think so A hundred percent.
It's all scripted and, like Ilove it when people are posting
videos where they catch theedits oh, okay that you can tell
that they cut it and directedthe reality people.

Nalee (22:15):
I guess that's true.
I mean, I feel like theyscripted to some point, but I
feel like not all of it isscripted.
Not all of it but the majorityof it.

Anthony (22:25):
And I like the hills.
I remember reading somethingfrom lauren conrad and she was.

Nalee (22:31):
Oh, lauren conrad.
Where is she?

Anthony (22:34):
I don't know, that's a good question.
I was actually thinking aboutthat the other day because I saw
um heidi montag, heidi pratt, Idon't know what the fuck she
does.
I don't know what that is heidiand spencer from the hills.
I don't know what the fuck shedoes.
I don't know what that is.
Heidi and Spencer from theHills.

Nalee (22:47):
I've never watched the Hills.
I'm a Dawson's Creek girl.

Anthony (22:50):
Oh, that's not even a reality show.

Nalee (22:52):
Oh wait, what hill was a reality TV show?
What Was it?
One Hill, is that what you said?

Anthony (22:59):
You're thinking of One Tree Hill.
I said the Hills.

Nalee (23:06):
It was Laguna Beach.
And then okay, yeah, I didn't.

Anthony (23:08):
I didn't know that, I just know lauren conrad from
glamour girl uh magazine yeah,well, she got her start on, oh
okay, laguna beach, and thenthey did the spin-off, the hills
, which was centered around her.
But she would, basically, sheadmitted you know that basically
they would give them, theywouldn't give them a script,
okay, they would.
And christy cavallari said thistoo, they would tell so and so
to meet and like what topics todiscuss?

(23:31):
oh, like us right now and playit, yeah, and play it out like
it was reality tv, but likethat's so interesting but, like
nowadays shows, they edit it.
You can see all the editsafterwards.
And what really bothers me withreality tv now is like the
first.
You know, the first season oflove is blind was great.

(23:54):
Yeah, I loved it.

Nalee (23:55):
The second season was okay I don't like any other
season except for season one.

Anthony (24:01):
It all went downhill because all these people, these
nobodies like us.
With the podcast yeah Saw theiropportunity to become famous.
Famous yeah.
And that's the one thing thatbothers me is, these people are
getting famous for doing nothing.

Nalee (24:15):
Yeah, I mean, mind you, congratulations.
You're going on a reality show,yeah.

Anthony (24:19):
And you're making out with 18 different people Must be
nice.

Nalee (24:21):
Okay, different people Must be nice, okay, anyways,
anyway.
Well, now drumroll, please.
We are now gonna go onto theHill.
We'll Die On when the opinionsare hot.
The logic is questionable andwe said what we said, whether
it's defending a flop album,fighting for an underrated queen

(24:42):
, or insisting that ketchupbelongs in everything.
It doesn't by the way it doesndoesn't?
I don't think so either, butwe're planting our flags and
going down swinging.
You might not agree, but youwill respect a conviction.
Now, anthony, what is a heelthat you are willing to die on?

Anthony (25:02):
all right, so we're gonna start to start this.
We're going to start this.
Well, I know that this one'sreally going to get to you.

Nalee (25:08):
Okay, let's hear it.

Anthony (25:11):
Golden Girls is funnier and way more culturally
relevant than Friends, and it'snot even close.

Nalee (25:17):
How freaking, dare you Sorry?

Anthony (25:21):
Hill.
I will die on.

Nalee (25:22):
Okay, but why Give me your reasons?

Anthony (25:25):
Okay, so I'm not saying that Friends didn't have its
moment.
The Golden Girls gave us wittyone-liners, real discussions on
aging, queerness, death,immigration and women's autonomy
Okay.
In the 80s.
Okay, that's culturallyrelevant.
Right there, dorothy's Bornacould verbally annihilate Ross

(25:47):
Geller in under five seconds andstill have time to grab
cheesecake.

Nalee (25:50):
Okay.

Anthony (25:52):
Every episode of the Golden Girls, aged like a fine
sarcastic wine Friends, yourewatch it now and it's a cringe
fest of gay panic jokes andcardboard diversity.
Ouch, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
I know how much you lovefriends.
Ouch, that's a show I couldn'twatch, like on repeat.
I know you do I love friends Ilove friends um and you we were

(26:17):
speaking earlier podcast on methis is pick on nollie day,
didn't you?
get that memo um, I know yousaid you've never seen the
Golden Girls.
I haven't, so we really have toget you into it.

Nalee (26:28):
So I think that's also where yeah, that's also where I
can't be a judge on this part,Because I haven't seen Golden
Girls.

Anthony (26:38):
But Golden Girls wasn't just a comedy, it was
revolutionary.
Okay.
I 100% really think that youshould give it a comedy.
It was revolutionary, okay.
100% really think that youshould give it a chance.
First few episodes of the firstseason probably aren't the
greatest, but it does set a goodfoundation for the main cast
Well.

Nalee (26:56):
Friends didn't have that problem.
Like Friends set you in realquick on the first episode, so I
don't know.
I watch Friends on repeat.
Friends is my white noise otherthan scream?
I so scream the movie yeah,literally I was watching it
before you came I want to go seethe new scream yeah, we're
gonna go watch the new screen.
We're going to do it.

Anthony (27:16):
Yeah, but okay I'm just saying friends didn't pave any,
any, they didn't pave the wayfor anything sorry, wow okay
that's a hill that I will die ongolden girls is funnier than
friends okay, I will watch itand we'll rewind back on this.

Nalee (27:40):
I completely agree with you, I think, friends.
Yes, it wasn't reallyculturally relevant.
They did bring a blackcharacter.
If you watch the show theybring, her name is Charlie in
the episode.
Let me just look it up.
She, I mean, I love her.
She was also in.

Anthony (28:00):
Criminal Minds yeah, she was also in Criminal Minds.

Nalee (28:04):
Her name was Dr Charlie Wheeler in the show by Aisha
Taylor.
Aisha, I knew it, so that's whoshe played.
But yes, I do agree with you onthe part that they weren't
really culturally relevant.
However, friends, the reasonwhy I love Friends is because
Chandler, he like he and likethis, my little uh, memoriam, or

(28:30):
whatever it's called to mr umchandler bing, aka matthew perry
, like he was my favoritecharacter.
I think that's why I likedfriends, because he just like,
he was just so funny.
And I also really liked Ross'scharacter because I loved how,
like, how much he freaked outand like Not stand.

(28:52):
Ross, really I love Ross.

Anthony (28:55):
But I did feel bad for him in the episode.
Wasn't there an episode wherehe it was like a flashback to
like prom or something?
Yeah, and he got like left.

Nalee (29:03):
Yeah, he like.
So what happened in thatepisode was rachel and monica.
They were going to the prom andthen their dates were supposed
to meet up at their house, butthen, um, rachel's date didn't
show up.
So then the mom was like hey,ross, I have an idea for you,
because ross had this majorcrush on rachel, right, and so
then she's like.
Her mom was like, why don't yougo get dressed?

(29:25):
And then you could take her tothe prom, take Rachel to the
prom.
So he goes and get dressed, hecomes down, and then when he
comes down, chip which was herRachel's date showed up and they
left without him.

Anthony (29:36):
And Ross was left standing.

Nalee (29:37):
Yeah.

Anthony (29:38):
He was left standing.

Nalee (29:38):
Yeah, and his dad recorded the whole thing.
And then that's the iconicmoment where Rachelachel saw
that video and she's like, oh,like you were willing to do that
for me.
And then she kissed him.
And then that's when um, missphoebe buffet says see, he's her
lobster, yeah okay yeah, Idon't know about me no, I'm just

(30:02):
kidding, I do know yeah, but Ilove friends, I think, although
they they weren't culturallyrelevant I'm going to stay on
that point.
I will give you that they alsobrought up a lot of stuff like
miscarriage, they did, yeah.
Or they brought up the fact ofinfertility because you know,
rachel, not Rachel, monica andChandler they couldn't have kids
.
So they brought up the facts of, or the things of, like

(30:27):
infertility, adoption they didbring up like lesbian, because
Ross is like the LGBTQ community, but they didn't fully go into
it.
But they also like touched onit a lot, where Carol, which is
Ross's ex-wife, she was alesbian and she was married to
Susanan.
That's right, yeah, so, andthey also like um, talked about

(30:51):
like a lot of other really goodthings.

Anthony (30:53):
But I I know that friends was a big show and it
still is it's still like itstill is people love friends,
but I just I personally I trulybelieve that they missed the
boat on a lot of.
They had such a good platformthey did, yeah that they didn't
fully use it to what they couldhave to address all of those

(31:18):
problems.

Nalee (31:18):
Yeah, you're right.
Yeah, yeah, I agree with that.

Anthony (31:21):
They didn't do it until later, but I think and and I
also, I like I'm just gonna sayone last thing on.
That is just the biggest thingis with like with golden girls
being in the 80s that's a bigthing.
That's a big ass thing, yeahand friends was on in the 2000s
1990s.

Nalee (31:41):
Yeah, I guess you're right, so I will die in that
okay.

Anthony (31:45):
Well, you so I will die on that Okay.

Nalee (31:46):
Well, you go on and die on that hill.

Anthony (31:48):
I'm gonna die.

Nalee (31:48):
Because the hill that I'm willing to die on, y'all
already know.
Drum roll please.

Anthony (31:53):
We gonna talk about this Every single episode.

Nalee (31:55):
Yes, Is that Twilight Is cinematic excellence.
And y'all Were just Haters.
And I'll explain why.
Twilight is a Cin cinematicexperience.
Number one iconic aesthetic.
That blue tint was a choice.
The pacific northwest backdrop,foggy forest and cold color
palette matched the tone of theteen angst and forbidden love.

(32:17):
Gen z's current obsession withmoody and twilight core
aesthetics.
Twilight walked so your VSCOfilters could run.
Number two elite soundtrackenergy.
Certified banger after bangerParamore, muse, bon Iver and so
on.
Twilight soundtracks didn'tjust slap.
They created emotionalexperiences that made

(32:39):
mid-starring contests feel likeShakespeare Three.
It knew it was camp KirstenStewart dramatically stuttered
in Bio Class.
Yeah, robert Pattinson lookinglike he's trying not to vomit
Camp cinema.
Iconic.
Number four cultural reset.
Twilight created a globalphenomenon and redefined YA

(33:00):
fantasy romance for a generation.
It launched billion-dollarfranchises, resurrected the
vampire genre and made room forfemale-led fandom culture.
Number five unhinged but honestdialogues.
Yes, the lines are weird, butthey're also unforgettable.
Here's a few of them.
You better hold on tight,spider monkey.

(33:21):
This is the skin of a killer,bella.
And hey, bella, where you beenloca?
Exactly.
Number six it embraced melodramaand a telenova with fangs From
the love triangle to dramaticdeclarations of undying love.
Twilight leaned in andheightened emotion.

(33:41):
Without apology, you might notcall it good acting, but it's
committed acting, and there'ssomething genuinely compelling
about that Number seven.
It gave us stars, even if theywere embarrassed.
Robert Pattinson, kirsten Stortand Taylor Lautner all became
pop culture icons and lateracclaimed actors.
They might cringe about it now,but Twilight gave the

(34:05):
springboard and gave fans a castthat aged like fine wine.
Now for bonus arguments for thenerds.
Twilight is a feminist artifactin its own messy way.
It was made for teenage girls,about teenage girls, and
reflected their emotionallandscape, something that's
rarely taken seriously in cinemabut always deserves to be so.

(34:29):
There it is my reasons as towhy Twilight is a cinematic
experience.
Point blank period.

Anthony (34:40):
Okay, now I need you to just do something with me.

Nalee (34:42):
Okay.

Anthony (34:43):
Take a deep breath.

Nalee (34:45):
Was it too fast, I'm sorry.

Anthony (34:48):
You are very passionate about Twilight.
I can tell I have the biggesteye roll.
Well, I wanted to comment on it.

Nalee (34:56):
Okay, you can comment on it.

Anthony (34:57):
I disagree with everything you just said, with
the exception of two things.
Okay, I will give thesoundtrack a thumbs up.

Nalee (35:05):
I will give that a thumbs down.
I love Twilight soundtrack.
Okay, yeah, that's it.
Keep being a hater.
I said what I said.

Anthony (35:16):
And the second thing was I can see why you like it
Because, like you said, it isindeed a feminist artifact that
was made for teenage girls.
Yeah, it was.
And their emotional landscape.
I will agree with that.

Nalee (35:28):
Yeah, I'm just a little teenage girl still.

Anthony (35:31):
How old were you when that movie came out?
The first one?

Nalee (35:34):
I was like a sophomore.

Anthony (35:36):
Case in point right there.

Nalee (35:37):
Yeah, I had a poster of Edward in my room.

Anthony (35:42):
I'm pretty sure all the girls did.

Nalee (35:45):
Maybe it's TMI, but every time I shower and I came into
my room I'm pretty sure all thegirls did.
Maybe it's TMI, but every timeI shower and I came into my room
I'd be like don't look at me,I'm changing.

Anthony (35:54):
So say what you will.

Nalee (35:55):
I fucking love Edward Cullen.
I'm team Edward.
Yeah, that's it Period.

Anthony (36:00):
I think my biggest thing, because you mentioned
that it gave us like acclaimedthey became acclaimed.
It gave us like acclaimed theybecame acclaimed actors.
Yeah, they all really did Seepersonally, I think Taylor
Lautner is a good actor.

Nalee (36:15):
I think he's the only one that isn't super big right now.

Anthony (36:18):
Yeah, probably Because Kirsten Storch she does a lot.

Nalee (36:20):
That too, but that doesn't stop the fact that you
can't continue doing what youwant.
But like, like Robert Pattinsonand I'd like to kind of do like
a corrections corner, it'sactually Mickey 17.
That movie is so good, likeit's so good, you should watch
it.
I don't know if you'd like itbecause it's kind of like
sci-fi-ish.
I don't know if you're intothat, no, but it's really good.

(36:40):
It's called Mickey 17.
I think it's probably one of myfavorites from Robert Pattinson
.

Anthony (36:45):
Oh, look it up, because I've actually been seeing stuff
about that.

Nalee (36:50):
Yeah, but it's really good.
Steven Ewan from the WalkingDead.
He was Glenn.
He was such a good character inthat movie Like I fucking hated
him.
But that's what you call goodacting when you really hate the
character.

Anthony (37:03):
I don't think Kristen Stewart is a good actor period.

Nalee (37:07):
I think she's definitely improved.
I wouldn't say that she's likemy favorite actor, but she's
done a lot of indie films thathas kind of reclaimed her name.

Anthony (37:18):
I will say that I will agree with that, because she did
a movie about Princess Dianawhere she played Princess Diana.
Yeah, she's definitely come outof her shell.
She did really good in PrincessDiana, where she played
Princess Diana.

Nalee (37:24):
Yeah, she's definitely come out of her shell.
I would say that she did reallygood in that movie.

Anthony (37:27):
I will give that to her .

Nalee (37:28):
So I mean the breathing from when she's sleeping.
I get it, but I still loveTwilight.
I'm going to die on that hill.
Y'all can come for me, but I'mgoing to die on that hill, you
are going to die on that hill.
I've said it once, I've said ittwice, I've said it thrice now.

Anthony (37:44):
You'll say this every episode.

Nalee (37:47):
We're going to mention Twilight at least once, but I
love Twilight.

Anthony (37:50):
Well, I have one more hill that I want to die on.
Okay, and I feel like you mightbe able to agree with this To
die with you on that hill.

Nalee (37:57):
You might die with me on this.

Anthony (37:58):
yeah, Okay, let's see as they did in the 2000s.
Like performances now feel verysterile compared to the chaos
and pop culture that we used toget.

(38:18):
Okay.
I don't know if you like canrecall any of them, but I mean
like award shows.
Today it feels like you'rewatching a very expensive dress
rehearsal.

Nalee (38:29):
Yeah, I would agree with that.
I feel like they don't reallycapture yeah, they don't really
capture the the essence of whatthe award show is, compared to
how they look at.
The award show, which obviouslyyou know looks has become like
a big thing for everybody.
But I definitely agree withthat.

(38:50):
I will die with you on thathill.

Anthony (38:52):
Like, okay, can we?
Just can we pay homage andremember, like Brittany's slave,
for you.

Nalee (38:59):
Oh, I love Brittany.

Anthony (39:01):
Her slave for you at the 2001 VMAs, where she bust
out of that cage.

Nalee (39:05):
Yeah.

Anthony (39:06):
Had the python around her neck.

Nalee (39:08):
That was so hot, she was so hot.
You don't get that anymore.
Yeah, we had.

Anthony (39:11):
Beyonce's 2003 Crazy in Love at the BET Awards Mm-hmm,
what else do we have ChristinaAguilera's Dirty VMA performance
in 2002.

Nalee (39:21):
I love that performance.

Anthony (39:23):
Pink's Acrobatics at the 2009 VMAs.
You were talking about thatbefore.
I love Pink.
Yeah, we don't get that now.
Yeah, it's like, even like theSuper Bowl performances, like
Rihanna's.
What I thought it was good.
I thought it was horrible.

Nalee (39:41):
She was pregnant.
Give her a break.

Anthony (39:43):
What's that have to do with it?

Nalee (39:45):
She can't break her back like how she normally does.
I think she did great.
I will not die on that hill.
I think she did great.

Anthony (39:52):
I hated it.
No, I think she did great.
I will not die on that hill.
I think she did great.
I hated it, especially whenshe's standing there with her
hand behind her back.
What the fuck was that?
That's her dance to the songthat was a stupid ass dance move
and everybody was literallythat was a stupid ass dance move
.

Nalee (40:05):
Everybody was in white and red.

Anthony (40:07):
It was like dancing fucking tampons.
I felt like I was watching anepisode of Big Mouth.
I.
I felt like I was watching anepisode of.

Nalee (40:16):
Big Mouth.
I hate you, I'm sorry.
Oh my God, that's literally allI could think.
No, nobody could cover my girlRiRi.

Anthony (40:20):
I'm not saying I don't like her, I'm just saying that
performance.

Nalee (40:22):
I think she did amazing that performance was not Super
Bowl worthy.
I think if she wasn't pregnant,it would have been You're right
, it would have been, but it'snot her fault.
Well, technically it is herfault for getting pregnant, but
I think that if she knew she wasgoing to be pregnant, she could
have handed it off.
But I feel, like the SuperBowls, it's too hard to be like

(40:44):
nah, you know what I mean.

Anthony (40:45):
I don't think it is.

Nalee (40:46):
Really.

Anthony (40:46):
I don't think it is.

Nalee (40:48):
I think it is.
You have to be hella fuckingiconic to get to the Super Bowls
.
I feel like my favoriteperformance at the Super Bowl
was the Bruno Mars, because youalready know he my boy, he my
man, I'm trying to think of theBruno Mars performance.

Anthony (41:03):
How long ago was that?

Nalee (41:05):
Probably 2000-something 14, 16?
, 18?
One of the two, one of thethree.
I just know he did a great job.

Anthony (41:12):
You know who did really good.

Nalee (41:13):
Usher.
Usher did such a good job too.
Usher did do good, yeah, oh, Ithink he did it with Usher, did
he?
I don't know, never mind, butUsher did great.
I love Usher too.
Beyonce I didn't see Beyonce,of my way to look at Beyonce,

(41:34):
okay.
I mean if she was in mypresence, you know goddamn well
I'd be on her feet.

Anthony (41:38):
You're going out of your way After we're done
recording this we're watchingbefore I leave, Okay, okay.
Okay, yeah, but yeah, they justthe performances nowadays just
don't have that same.

Nalee (41:48):
Authenticity.

Anthony (41:49):
Yeah, or like energy level.
That's the biggest thing islike oh, like who was it that
Drake went out there?
And he's like, okay, I get it,he's a guy.
It's not as expected with guys.
But like, oh, you went outthere in a t-shirt and jeans,
big fucking walk.

Nalee (42:08):
And Kendrick Lamar and he walked around the stage.

Anthony (42:10):
Oh my God, yeah, Kendrick.

Nalee (42:11):
Lamar, I think he was.
I think his wasn't like hisSuper Bowl, it wasn't as much as
the aesthetic, it was more ofhis song, like the lyrics and
stuff.

Anthony (42:20):
Yeah.
So I guess, that's me, okay,just please bring us back to the
time when performances wouldmake your jaw drop.

Nalee (42:29):
I agree A hundred percent drop.
I agree 100, all right.
So this next section here we'rejust going to be throwing a
couple questions at each other.
Um, we're going to talk about acouple topics like tv and film
and music and artist culture,celebrity and influencer culture
and social media and internettrends.
So we're going to ask a couplequestions here and there, just

(42:51):
kind of see what our answers areto ask a couple questions here
and there, just kind of see whatour answers are.

Anthony (43:01):
All right, so my first question is going to be um, from
the tv and film category.
Okay, if you could reboot oneshow, what would it be and why
it's not gonna be friends, I God, well, you can't.
Matthew Perry is.

Nalee (43:16):
Well, they could just RIP .
Yeah, you're right, let's nottalk about that, not on this
podcast.
It's not really a series or ashow about Harry Potter.

Anthony (43:31):
You know they're making one right.

Nalee (43:33):
Yeah, but it ain't gonna be Harry and Hermione and Ron.

Anthony (43:38):
Oh, it's not gonna be the same actors, yeah.

Nalee (43:40):
I love them.
Okay, let me pick a differentone.
What's a good show?
Let me think this.
I did not think this through.
We're gonna talk about this.
Let's see what's a good show.
What's a good show?
So many?
Let me see what's a good show.

(44:02):
There was a really good showthat I was watching on Hulu.
I think You'll have to comeback to me.
Okay, there is.
I know there is one, I justcan't think of the name.
But what about you?

Anthony (44:13):
What's a show that you would bring back?
I would bring back Charmed ifwe could bring back the original
cast.
Oh my God, yes, but again goingback to like your, like the
friends comment that I madeabout Matthew Perry.
Yeah, you know RIP ShannonDoherty.

Nalee (44:27):
Yeah, I love her, I love Charmed I can watch that back to
back still.

Anthony (44:31):
Same.

Nalee (44:31):
Even though the demons are cringy and stuff Some of
them were, I would still watchCharmed One because the fashion
sense was iconic.

Anthony (44:43):
Oh my God, I fucking love the outfit.

Nalee (44:44):
It was so good, they're so sexy.
Alyssa Milano yeah, she'sbeautiful, she's so sexy too.

Anthony (44:52):
And Holly Marie Combs.

Nalee (44:54):
Oh, I loved her.
I love how natural she looked.
Yeah, like every time they putmakeup on her I'd be like that's
my girl.
She could do a baddie and shecould be non-natural.

Anthony (45:05):
I wish they would have like cast a better page though.

Nalee (45:08):
Oh yeah, I'm sorry, I don't like Rose at first I
didn't really like her, but Ithink, as I continue to watch it
, I'm also like I can't see theshow without her yeah, so I do
like that, but she's such a badactress, yeah I'm low-key,
though.
I would trade her in forshannon dotary, though, or I

(45:28):
would trade shannon dotary forher dotary.
I can't pronounce dorito dohertyfor her Doherty.
I can't pronounce it Doherty,doherty, doherty, doherty.
I would trade her.
I can't.
I did not say Doherty, I didnot say Doherty.
Rewind the tape?
Yeah, but I would bring inShannon in place of Paige or

(45:49):
Rose McGowan.
Rose McGowan yeah, I loved her,like she was my favorite
character.
I'm so sad they killed her off.
Yeah, do you know the dramabehind that?
I do.

Anthony (45:58):
Spill it Her.
Shannon Doherty and AlyssaMilano didn't get along.

Nalee (46:03):
I can understand why they're both divas.
They're both hot yeah.

Anthony (46:07):
But apparently there was also rumors that Alyssa
Milano was a little bit of a Ahoe, yeah a hoe, and not our
kind of hoe, but an actual shewas a whore.
She was a whore.

Nalee (46:20):
Oh yeah, and I Did.
She sleep with the director toget the job?

Anthony (46:24):
No, oh okay, I think it was like 90, wasn't it?
I don't know, I think it wasAaron Spelling.

Nalee (46:28):
I thought you gotta do what you gotta do.
She got the main character, soI mean.

Anthony (46:33):
That's true, she.
Um, there is a rumor that.
I heard Allegedly.
That she actually was having anaffair.
Well, let me rephrase thatBrian Krause Ooh bitch.
I love him, though Was havingan affair with Melissa Milano.

Nalee (46:51):
I love Leo, yeah, I love Leo too.
Low key.
I kind of wish that they endedup together in real life.

Anthony (46:58):
Yeah, they made such a cute couple and I love how they
ended the series.

Nalee (47:02):
Yeah, the chemistry is so good Like low key, I thought
they would have been perfecttogether.

Anthony (47:08):
So yeah, I would do Charmed.

Nalee (47:10):
Okay, that's a good one, Thank you.

Anthony (47:16):
Did you hear they're rebooting Buffy.

Nalee (47:18):
Yeah, I heard that, but I wasn't.
I liked Buffy, but I wasn'tlike super into Buffy.

Anthony (47:25):
I was in the beginning and then it got a little like
weird for me.
Vampires weren't weird for me,but once they started adding all
that witchcraft that was where.
I drew the line.
I was like, okay, okay yeah,that witchcraft, but we were
talking about the werewolf.

Nalee (47:43):
Yeah, seth green oh, I love seth green, though I can't
stand him.
I think I like him because ofum family guy.
Did you know he's a voice actorfor Chris yeah.

Anthony (47:52):
Oh for Chris.

Nalee (47:53):
Yeah, the son.

Anthony (47:54):
Oh, I knew he was a voice actor on Family Guy, daddy
.

Nalee (47:58):
Daddy.
That's all I need.

Anthony (48:00):
That's my best imitation of him, oh my God,
that's going to be my newringtone.
Daddy, did you happen to thinkof a show?

Nalee (48:09):
I did not Not yet, okay, okay, I did not Not yet, okay,
okay.

Anthony (48:15):
Well, we can come back to that what's a fictional
universe you wish was realCharmed.

Nalee (48:25):
Okay, I like that, I love Charmed.

Anthony (48:27):
No, I don't necessarily know if it would be Charmed.
I mean, it would be cool tolive in a world where-.

Nalee (48:31):
Magic and stuff.
Yeah, I look he used to dostupid stuff to pretend that I
was like.

Anthony (48:36):
A wizard, yeah, a witch .

Nalee (48:37):
Like I'd look at a pencil and I'd go and pretend that I'm
like Is it telekinesis?

Anthony (48:43):
Telekinesis is where you can move things.

Nalee (48:45):
Yeah.

Anthony (48:45):
With your mind.

Nalee (48:46):
Yeah, I used to think that I could do that.

Anthony (48:54):
I, I wish that stuff did exist.

Nalee (48:55):
Oh cool Quick question which power?

Anthony (48:56):
would you want?
Oh, that's a good question.
I would want Piper's power.

Nalee (49:01):
Same.

Anthony (49:02):
Like her advanced power where she could like not only
freeze, no where she could notonly freeze, but oh.
Phoebe.
Okay, yeah, phoebe's, yeahPhoebe.
Phoebe's the one withlevitation.
Yeah, but like where Pipercould freeze and like combust
things.

Nalee (49:18):
Oh yeah, that would be fucking awesome.
Yeah, that'd be cool, I wouldbe freezing so much shit, not
giving me a hundred bucks Kaboom.

Anthony (49:27):
Or be like freeze take that ATM card.

Nalee (49:30):
Period.
Yes, what about you?
I Take that ATM card.

Anthony (49:32):
Period yes.

Nalee (49:33):
What about you?
I would actually do Phoebe'sbecause she could time travel,
she could go back in time andshe could, like, kick people's
ass yeah.

Anthony (49:46):
Yeah, she was really athletic.

Nalee (49:47):
I don't really care about the like flying part, it's more
of the travel in time.
Like I love the epic.
Oh go, oh, go ahead.
Oh, she had premonitions, likeshe could see the future or the
past?
Oh, yeah, yeah and I love theepisodes where her and um,
what's his face?
No, it was phoebe, and her man,cole cole.

(50:08):
They would go back in timewhere they were like share or no
, they weren't't Cher, they wereBonnie and Clyde.

Anthony (50:16):
Yes.

Nalee (50:16):
Like, that episode was so cute, like where they were.

Anthony (50:19):
She was, they were flappers.
Yeah, yes, yeah.

Nalee (50:22):
Like that seemed fun.
That's some shit I would loveto do.

Anthony (50:24):
Why doesn't Hollywood do that shit anymore?
Yeah.
You wouldn't want the.
I do kind of like the idea ofbeing able to like orb oh, like,
page, oh yeah, page does orb,yeah, yeah, yeah, like, can you
imagine?

Nalee (50:40):
oh, I'm gonna go, I'll be in miami yeah, literally knew
it, knew it I would be thereevery day yes, um, oh, I would
say now that I think of it.
One TV show that I would bringback is how to Get Away with
Murder.
Yes, because and I have a twistto it I would like to like

(51:04):
remove the last two seasons andhave a continuation from there,
because I feel like the last twoseasons was a mess yeah.

Anthony (51:13):
I agree with that.
Yeah, and have a continuation.
Well, I don't know if it wasthe last two, but I, like the
last two seasons was a mess.
Yeah, I agree with that.

Nalee (51:14):
Yeah, and have a continuation.

Anthony (51:15):
Well, I don't know if it was the last two, but I know
the last season for sure no, thelast two was a mess I've been
meaning to go back and re-watchthat yeah, it's such a good
re-watch.

Nalee (51:23):
Yeah, yeah, but yeah, last two, that's the one what
about pretty little liars likethe original?
Pretty little liars.
I never finished it.
Yeah, really yeah.
I think I stopped watching itafter the girl that they thought
was dead came back.
What's her name?
Allie?

(51:44):
Yeah, the part where Allie cameback and she was a little bit
chubbier.
Yeah, I think after that part Ijust stopped watching it
because I couldn't, because shewas chubby.
Yeah, I think after that part Ijust stopped watching it.

Anthony (51:52):
Because she was chubby.

Nalee (51:53):
No, not because she was chubby.
I love thick girls.
I'm a thick girl myself, but Ithink the story just kind of
went away.

Anthony (51:58):
Yeah, it did, it did and they tried rebooting it.

Nalee (52:03):
Yeah, it didn't work.
Twice, I think yeah.

Anthony (52:05):
No, I think only once.

Nalee (52:06):
I think it was only once.

Anthony (52:07):
No, Pretty Little Liars .
I think it was called SummerSchool.

Nalee (52:14):
Oh, that I don't know.

Anthony (52:16):
And then there was another one that they actually
got two seasons out of it.

Nalee (52:20):
That one, I know which one you're talking about I don't
know about the other one.
Yeah, yeah, for me it'll haveto be that show.

Anthony (52:32):
Okay, I did have another question for TV and film
that I I couldn't not ask thisbecause you didn't ask what my
fictional universe would be.

Nalee (52:43):
Oh, I didn't, did I?
You didn't how rude, sorry, Ishould okay.

Anthony (52:48):
What fictional universe do you wish were real?

Nalee (52:50):
oh, oh, Harry Potter 100% .

Anthony (52:53):
That would be fun.

Nalee (52:54):
I love Harry Potter have you ever been to Universal.
No, but I plan to you should gowith me in September.
Ooh, is this an invite?

Anthony (53:05):
I mean it's Richard's birthday, so I probably
shouldn't invite anybody, but.

Nalee (53:09):
Fuck, richard, I'm going to, if you happen to go.

Anthony (53:12):
we would be there If I happen to meet you there hint,
hint.
Kind of like your story earlier.

Nalee (53:18):
Ooh y'all, I got a hypothetical.
It's going to be hot and juicy.
Well, it's now called Nali'sHypothetical Corner.
Wait, just kidding, it's calledNali's, can't even say your own
goddamn name.

Anthony (53:34):
Oh, goddamn name, it's called not live now.

Nalee (53:35):
I can't even say your goddamn name.
It's called nali's hypotheticalhotline.

Anthony (53:38):
We're gonna get back to that real quick though you're
gonna introduce that like make abig to-do of it yeah, a big
to-do of it, yeah, but minewould be harry potter.

Nalee (53:47):
I love magic, I love everything, harry potter and
fantastic beasts like I couldn'tget into that.
I love it, loved it.
I think it's because Newt theperson who played Newt I forgot
what his name was, but I justlove Is that the main guy.
Yeah, I just love his EddieRedmayne.
Yeah, I love him Really.

(54:07):
Yeah, he's so versatile.

Anthony (54:09):
He is very versatile.
I love him.
I will give that yeah.

Nalee (54:11):
Like he could be a really bad guy where you like
literally hate him to death.
Like in Ascending Jupiter withMila Kunis and, yeah, mila Kunis
in Channing Tatum he was afucking dick in that movie.

Anthony (54:25):
Like I hate him so much , I've never even heard of it.

Nalee (54:27):
It's pretty good.
It's aight.

Anthony (54:29):
It's aight it.
It's all right, it's prettygood, it's all right.

Nalee (54:31):
Yeah, it ain't no Gardens of the Galaxy, but it's all
right.
I haven't seen that either.

Anthony (54:35):
Well, I like superhero.
Wait, is that the?

Nalee (54:36):
one with Oprah?
No, I don't think so.
Oh what am.
I thinking of, I don't know thecontrast between wait.
Is that, oprah, in yourexcitement too?

Anthony (54:46):
Oh, I thought I knew it for a second.

Nalee (54:50):
I love a lot of.
I like sci-fi films, I likesuperheroes.
Well, for superheroes, I thinkI just kind of grew to like it
Because it's what like my man'swatch, but I like it regardless.
But yeah, I love him.
He plays such a good characterLike he's so caring to those
creatures, like I think that'swhy I really like his character.

(55:12):
And then you had another one,right.
I did, but now I'm stuck on theone with Oprah.
Is it Ghost?

Anthony (55:23):
That's Whoopi Goldberg.
No, what that?
was horrible.

Nalee (55:34):
I thought it was spot on.

Anthony (55:36):
I was thinking of A Wrinkle in Time.

Nalee (55:37):
Oh, a Wrinkle in Time.
That's a really good movie too.

Anthony (55:40):
Yeah.

Nalee (55:40):
It's kind of sad.

Anthony (55:41):
Yeah, yeah, that was a good movie.

Nalee (55:42):
Yeah, it was a really good movie.

Anthony (55:46):
No, that would be awesome to live in a world where
there's magic.
And do you notice that there'sa theme in all these shows that
we like?
It's like things with?

Nalee (55:53):
like Magic.

Anthony (55:54):
Well, not even necessarily.
Witches and wizards yeah, likestuff that doesn't exist.

Nalee (55:57):
Yeah Well, yeah, that's why we wish it exists.
It'd be so cool.

Anthony (56:02):
Yeah.
I would love to take a potionsclass or.

Nalee (56:05):
Yeah, or pull out a baby root, a crying baby root, or to
fly on a broomstick.
That shit would be iconic.
I would never come back.

Anthony (56:15):
I don't know if I would be able to balance on it.

Nalee (56:17):
I'm like deuces.

Anthony (56:19):
Did you hear the story Speaking of flying on brooms
when they filmed Hocus Pocus?
Sarah Jessica Parker, I thinkshe did like I't know 23 and me
or something, but she found outthat she had like relatives that
were, I, I think, accused ofbeing witches back in the salem

(56:41):
witch trials oh, that's cool butanyway, when they were filming
hocus pocus, like she, she wouldjust like stay up there on the
broom, like she enjoyed it somuch.
She would just like stay up onthe broom and read a book while
everybody else like got downthat's so cute yeah that's cute.

Nalee (56:58):
I like that would be fun?
That'd probably be me.
Did you know there's?
Did you know there's this thingwhere they say that, like if
you have a birthmark on yourlike, I think it's your right
hand, where it's like from themiddle, from from your wrist, if
you draw a line from the middlethere and on the left side of
your right wrist, if you havetwo moles on there that aligns
or makes a line, it means thatyou are like an ascendant of

(57:23):
witches and wizards.
I have none.

Anthony (57:26):
I have it on my left arm.

Nalee (57:27):
Yeah, you ain't none.
Oh okay, it has to be on yourright.
Oh fuck, I'm going to tattoo itso that I become one.

Anthony (57:37):
Tattoo beauty marks on your arm, just so that you think
Period.
Okay, yes, I do have one morequestion for the TV and film
category.
I couldn't let this question goby without being asked because
I think it is such a goodquestion.
Okay, who is your ultimate TVcouple?
And or who should have neverended up together?

Nalee (57:59):
Ooh, that's a good one.

Anthony (58:01):
My money says you're going to say Ross and Rachel.
I'm just kidding, I don't know.
As far as ultimate TV, that's agood one.

Nalee (58:10):
Right, that's a really good one.
Let me see.
Well, my favorite ultimatecouple is actually Chandler and
Monica.
I love them together.
They're such a good couple.
Yeah, and who should have neverended up together?
For me, I'll have to go to theBig Bang Theory.

(58:32):
Penny and Leonard.
Yeah, leonard, I don't thinkthey should have ended up
together really yeah, why?
I think because there's suchpolar opposites and I felt like
their character reallyrealistically didn't really like
mesh well okay, realisticallyspeaking, yeah, you're, you're

(58:53):
probably right on that.
But I mean, I liked them, theidea of them together, like they
were cute.
But like, let's just say, ifthey played out in reality, I
feel like they'd be too annoyedof each other, like because I
think she would be annoyed withhim.
Yeah and vice versa, because hegives in a lot to her.
So I feel like he'd end upbeing like a murderer and
killing her or something becauselike she do really stupid stuff

(59:18):
like how she sleeps with thedudes and stuff like that it
makes like he.
She does little things.
That also gets on his nerves.
That you could see throughoutthe show and in my head.
In reality, if it just hitslike a certain point or a
specific nerve, he probably likelash out and kill her deuces
yeah, but that's mine.
What about you?
Um?

Anthony (59:43):
who do, I think should have ended up together, and I
think this is just because wetalked about this and so I feel
like I'm it's fresh on my headand I'm and I think that's why

(01:00:04):
that's all I'm thinking of rightnow is because it's fresh in my
head.
Okay.
But I really wish that Cole andPhoebe would have ended up
together.

Nalee (01:00:11):
Oh, I love them together yeah.

Anthony (01:00:12):
I really like them.

Nalee (01:00:13):
I really like them together.
Didn't they kind of end uptogether?
Oh, I love them together.
Yeah, I really like them.
I really like them together.
Didn't they kind of end uptogether?
Mm-mm, they were just kind ofin limbo, huh.

Anthony (01:00:22):
Like their relationship was in limbo.
I thought, they didn't, but shehad to kill him.
Oh, that's right, Because hewas the demon Balthasar yeah
that's right, that's right.

Nalee (01:00:34):
Well, right, well, they separated him from balthasar
though no because he becausethen he, oh he, ended up being
evil again that's right, that'sright that's right, never mind
yeah yeah, I like them yeah

Anthony (01:00:42):
um and who would I have not wanted to end up together?
Okay, this is gonna be oldschool and this is gonna date me
okay um, okay, two actually.
So the first one would be Ithink they ended up together, if

(01:01:03):
I'm remembering correctly, butslater and jesse, and saved by
the bell nope, don't know yeah,see, because you're young.

Nalee (01:01:11):
Have you ever watched Stay by the Bell?
No, nostalgia, I haven'twatched a lot of stuff you
haven't yeah.

Anthony (01:01:19):
And then going back to the Golden Girls, dorothy and
Stan.

Nalee (01:01:24):
Okay, I mean the listeners could vote too, like
if they agree with you or theyagree with me.

Anthony (01:01:29):
Yeah, let me know.
Yeah, let us know you know howto get a hold of us period okay
all right.

Nalee (01:01:34):
So my next question is in the music and artist culture
category.
Can you separate the art fromthe artist?

Anthony (01:01:43):
okay, just so that I make sure that I'm on the right
page here.
Like, what do you mean byseparating?

Nalee (01:01:47):
okay.
So for me, this one either I'mgonna get a lot of hate for it
or people are gonna agree withme.
But chris brown, like I know,people give get a lot of hate
for it, or people are going toagree with me.
But Chris Brown, like I know,people give him a lot of hate
because of the abuse with, likeRihanna and stuff For him.
I love his music, I love ChrisBrown's music.

(01:02:08):
I love, love, love, love hismusic.
Yeah, I love Chris Brown, but Idon't know him as a person.
But, as you know, obviouslysocial media they paint a person
as a certain type of way.
You know, with whatever'shappened in his past, I think
maybe he has been such a goodperson, but my argument to that
is I have seen him do somereally good things too, though.

(01:02:30):
So, like I think, because youknow, like his things, there's
this thing that's going aroundwhere he would take like photos
for like twelve hundred dollarsor whatever.

Anthony (01:02:42):
Well, like with fans, yeah with fans.

Nalee (01:02:45):
But there was this kid who was disabled.
I think you could correct me ifI'm wrong, let me just double
check, but I'm pretty surethere's like.
This is this there was thisdisabled kid who did a fan like
VIP checkup with him and heactually refunded the money back
to the kid oh he did.

Anthony (01:03:02):
Yeah, he did and he also should have never taken it.

Nalee (01:03:05):
Well, that too, but I don't know, like I don't know, I
think, like in the documentarytoo, like I think he cause
there's a I think there's a Huluor a.
He has a documentary, yeah, andum, it talks about, like, his
mistakes and stuff and he ownsup to it, that like, yeah, what
he did was wrong and stuff likethat.

(01:03:25):
Um, but yeah, that's, that'sthe example I'm, I'm, we're
talking about like, can youseparate the art from the artist
?
Whereas, like, obviously, I Ican't agree that he's a great
person with whatever he's donein the past, but I love his
music.
There's not one that I'm notlike bopping my head to.

(01:03:47):
so, okay, yeah and that's fairand again, hate me if do hate me
, if you don't Like I said whatI said.

Anthony (01:03:57):
But you're separating the artist from the art yeah.
So people can't hold it againstyou.

Nalee (01:04:01):
Yeah, but people will still be like oh well, he's a
woman abuser Like.

Anthony (01:04:07):
I don't care, you know what I mean, yeah.

Nalee (01:04:10):
And I'm just speaking from my own opinion, like, yeah,
I've, yeah, but and I'm justspeaking from my own opinion,
like, yeah, I've been, I've beendown that road, like I've been
abused myself, you know, butobviously it's a unique
situation.
Whoever I was with is not afucking pop artist.
He making pop and music andregardless, like it's different,
like you know, and I canunderstand the relation into it,

(01:04:33):
like, just putting inperspective, I understand that,
but I'm just saying you cannottell me he's not making pop and
music, is all I'm saying, youknow.

Anthony (01:04:42):
I honestly probably couldn't like identify a Chris
Brown song from like within thelast 10 years that I would
recognize.

Nalee (01:04:50):
Are you serious, melissa?
Where the fuck you at?
Pull up, pull up, pull up, pullup Under the influence, under
the influence.
Let me play it to you.
Oh that's the song, yeah.

Anthony (01:05:00):
You know after.
Okay, so to answer yourquestion after listening to you
speak.

Nalee (01:05:05):
After listening to me speak.
I don't know why I found thatfunny.

Anthony (01:05:11):
Okay, I think that I can separate the art from the
artist, depending on the why Ineed to separate them.
Okay.
Like I could see myself.
Let me rephrase that I can'tsee myself separating Chris
Brown from his music, knowingthat he abused Rihanna.

(01:05:36):
Okay, Like that.
For me, personally, that'ssomething that I would be like
nope, I'm done.
Okay, but like.
So it would depend on what theartist has done, or you know
what I mean.
Yeah.
Like Justin Bieber.

Nalee (01:05:55):
I love Justin Bieber.
Don't even talk about my manlike that.

Anthony (01:05:58):
No, I'm just saying I can't separate, or I can
separate him from his music,just because, again, personally
I don't I feel bad for the kidwith everything that he has
going on.
Yeah.
And he looks rough lately.
Yeah, he does but like.

Nalee (01:06:19):
You're not clocking it, man, you're not clocking it.
It's his most latest videowhere he's like you're not
clocking it, it's not clockingit, man, you're not clocking it.
It's his most latest videowhere he's like you're not
clocking it, it's not clocking.

Anthony (01:06:29):
For him it's not clocking.

Nalee (01:06:33):
Don't talk about my man like that.

Anthony (01:06:37):
So I think I can separate the artist from the
artist, depending what they needto be.
Okay.

Nalee (01:06:47):
I think for me it's that thing of it.
I don't know if this is a thingwhen people would judge you on
your morals or whatever.
Maybe, maybe not, but obviouslyI'm a big Rihanna fan.
I love Rihanna, but I also likeChris Brown, and the way that I

(01:07:07):
separate that is that I don'tknow them personally.
I just know them as artists.
I love their music, so that'snot going to stop me from like
not listening to it, but then atthe same time, I'm not doing
anything to support it.
I'm just listening to it and Idon't know if you would consider
that supporting.
I don't know.

Anthony (01:07:26):
Personally, I would.
Oh okay, I mean, if you'respending money on things, I
ain't spending money.

Nalee (01:07:30):
I'm going on YouTube for free to listen to his music.
That is not spending money.
That's not spending money.

Anthony (01:07:35):
But, I mean if somebody's out there buying his
CDs, you can't go out and say Iam against violence against
women, but I'm going to go andbuy his CD.
That's exactly what I'm saying,because that money goes right
into his pocket.

Nalee (01:07:51):
That's exactly what I'm saying is that, like I
understand that and I thinkthat's where, just specifically
with Chris Brown and Rihanna,like I'm not saying I'm siding
with Chris Brown, I'm sidingwith Chris Brown.
I'm not saying I'm siding withRihanna because allegedly, like,
allegedly, yeah, allegedlyRihanna was like talking with um

(01:08:13):
Jay-Z or something, and thenChris Brown took her phone but
she wouldn't let him, so she washitting.
Which led him to hit her is thestory that he shares online.
So that's why I'm like I cannot.
I cannot like be on either side.
I support, I'm not, so I don'tknow how to say it.

(01:08:34):
Like I love their music, I loveboth of their music.
I'm trying to be the middlemanhere.
Like I cannot, you know.

Anthony (01:08:40):
I don't think that there's any way to get around
that.
Yeah, I don't think thatthere's any way to get around
that.
Yeah, so you have little 5'2Rihanna hitting on 6'1 Chris
Brown.
That excuses him hitting her nono, I'm not saying that's what
you're saying, but I'm sayingthose people that have that
logic.

Nalee (01:08:58):
Yeah, it's not clocking, bro.
Yeah, exactly, I hate you.
No-transcript.

(01:09:19):
Like it's not something that'seasy to talk about, I get it.
Like it's not something that'seasy to talk about, it's not
something that you're willinglyable to forgive Because it's not
.
It's just not you know.
But then again, that's whereI'm able to differentiate, you
know, an artist from their art,like I do like Chris Brown's
music.
You know I like Rihanna's music.

(01:09:45):
So, yeah, that's all I got tosay about that.
That's all you have to say,that's all I got to say about
that?

Anthony (01:09:50):
Okay, yeah, well, now I will ask you my question.

Nalee (01:09:55):
Okay, what's your question and?

Anthony (01:09:56):
again.
I just want to reiterate it'snot clocking with those people.

Nalee (01:10:02):
Apparently, it's not clocking with those people.
Now I'm just going to startsaying that all the time, just
kidding, I don't know shit aboutfuck.
Okay, it ain't clocking nowhere.

Anthony (01:10:13):
Which current artist is actually a musical genius?

Nalee (01:10:18):
I know your answer for this already.

Anthony (01:10:20):
Yeah, you do so.

Nalee (01:10:20):
I'm going to answer it for you.
It's Taylor Swift.
Are we answering for each othernow?
Yeah, you do, I'm going toanswer it for you it's Taylor
Swift.

Anthony (01:10:25):
Are we answering for each other?

Nalee (01:10:26):
now, no, just me, because I know that's what you're going
to say.

Anthony (01:10:29):
That's my answer.
What's your answer?

Nalee (01:10:30):
For me, I'd have to say Bruno Mars.
That man has not made one songthat has not been popping.

Anthony (01:10:40):
That's all I've got to say that's true.
So you think he's like the itcurrent musical genius?

Nalee (01:10:46):
I think so yeah, there is someone else.

Anthony (01:10:51):
Who.

Nalee (01:10:51):
But right now he's a little sad, my man, justin
Bieber, oh.

Anthony (01:10:56):
Yeah, he helped, justin .

Nalee (01:10:59):
Yeah, literally he is really talented.
He is really talented.
I don't know what he's goingthrough, but I'm sending prayers
, yeah send prayers, sendthoughts send positive vibes
Like I don't know what he'sgoing through, I don't know if
it's Haley, I don't know if it'sSelena, I don't think he's
getting a divorce.
I have no clue.
All I'm saying is he has awhole ass child.

(01:11:21):
Like he needs some love y'all.
Like he's so talented, like ifit wasn't bruno mars I would say
justin bieber would be likehand in hand with that, like,
yeah, as like an artist, becauseagain he hasn't had one song
that isn't popping either I feellike he did recently, like

(01:11:43):
within the last five years or sothere was five or six years I
feel like there was a song thatlike justin bieber oh, I know
what it?
no, it was poppin, never mindit's probably a feature song, it
was that I fucking hated thatsong.

Anthony (01:11:56):
That stupid watermelon oh, that wasn't.
That's that.
That's hair styles watermelonsugar high or something yeah,
watermelon sugars.

Nalee (01:12:02):
justin bieber hasn't come out with like a single song
recently.
I thought that's Harry Styles,watermelon sugar high or
something.
Yeah, watermelon sugars.
Justin Bieber hasn't come outwith like a single song recently
.
I thought he just came out withone, but he does a lot of
features.
No, he does features.

Anthony (01:12:12):
Oh.

Nalee (01:12:13):
I think the most recent one that I've heard, is the one
with SZA called Snooze.

Anthony (01:12:22):
Snooze on that.

Nalee (01:12:23):
Okay, I love Snooze.

Anthony (01:12:26):
It's definitely like one of my favorite songs from
her well, we're not even gonnago through mine, because we know
it's taylor swift.
And yes, you already said it.

Nalee (01:12:34):
Yeah, I mean, she's nice, she's nice, she's nice she's
masterful, but live your lifeokay, my next question is under
the celebrity and influencerculture um what celebrity couple
breakup still haunts you?

Anthony (01:12:51):
oh, celebrity couple breakup.
That still haunts me.
I feel like now that with thatquestion, I feel like now that
with that question, I feel likeI don't actually know a lot of
couples celebrity couples oh,okay um, for me it's gonna have

(01:13:15):
to be Jennifer Aniston and BradPitt yes.
I like them together fuckingAngelina Jolie with her fucking,
her magic, black magic.

Nalee (01:13:24):
Yes, I like them together Fucking Angelina Jolie with her
fucking.

Anthony (01:13:25):
Her magic.

Nalee (01:13:28):
Black magic, her kitty power.
Yeah, I like them together, butI do like Angelina Jolie and
Brad Pitt too.
I do not, oh, you don't no.

Anthony (01:13:37):
Oh, I was so mad about that.

Nalee (01:13:40):
And I wasn't even a big fan of Jennifer Aniston.
Oh really until like, probablywithin the last, like 10 to 15
years maybe okay, I guess Idon't know the history, though,
like were they together firstand then he cheated on her with
angelina jolie, or were theytogether first and then they
broke up?
Then he was with angelina, hewas with jen aniston, or so

(01:14:00):
obviously we weren't there.

Anthony (01:14:04):
We're not going to know the details, yeah, but from
what I remember reading andseeing, Allegedly, allegedly.

Nalee (01:14:11):
We don't use that for legal purposes.

Anthony (01:14:13):
Him and Angelina hooked up on the set of the.

Nalee (01:14:17):
Mr and Mrs Smith, mr and Mrs.

Anthony (01:14:18):
Smith, okay, yeah.

Nalee (01:14:20):
Oh, but they were together first, Jennifer Aniston
and Brad Pitt.
They were married, oh, theywere, oh my.

Anthony (01:14:26):
God, I didn't know that .

Nalee (01:14:27):
Seriously?
Yeah, I just thought they werea couple.
No, they were married.
Oh damn, Look at my girl comingthrough.
Wait, weren't they?
I don't think so.

Anthony (01:14:36):
Let me double check.
I think they were.
Yeah, they were.

Nalee (01:14:46):
Oh, okay, let's see, I accidentally put angelina jolie
yeah, they married july 29th and2000 and divorced october 2nd.
Oh well, my thing here says 1998, brad and jennifer began dating
after their set set up by theiragents.
2000, they married in lavishmalibu.
2024 or 2004, brad beginsfilming mr and mrs smith with
miss angelina.
Then they break up.
January 25, which is brad andjennifer.

(01:15:09):
They announce their separation.
March 25, um jennifer files fordivorce and then, um 2005, brad
and angelina are seenvacationing in Kenya.
Oh, and then 2006, angelinabecomes pregnant.
Oh, she a little tramp stampy,she a little homewrecker.

(01:15:32):
Mm-hmm, I still want to looklike her, though.

Anthony (01:15:36):
You want to be a homewrecker.
I do I see you?
I don't want to be ahomewrecker, but I want to look
like a homewrecker.
I just want to look like one.
Damn it.
Yes, no, I would agree with you.
I think that that would beprobably the celebrity couple
breakup that still haunts me.
Yeah.

Nalee (01:15:52):
Even though it doesn't really haunt me, because it
doesn't fuck with my life.
Oh yeah, okay.

Anthony (01:15:57):
But they were such a cute couple, they were really
cute.

Nalee (01:16:00):
Have you seen the memes where they say Brad Pitt becomes
who he dates?

Anthony (01:16:05):
No.

Nalee (01:16:05):
It's so funny.

Anthony (01:16:06):
I'll just send it to me .

Nalee (01:16:07):
Yeah, they put him up next to all of his exes and he
legit looks like them Identical.
Send that to me.

Anthony (01:16:14):
Yeah.
I'll send it to you.
It's kind of funny.
I want to see it, yeah.
Okay, what's a celebrity scandalthat changed the way you saw
someone?

Nalee (01:16:25):
Ooh scandal.

Anthony (01:16:28):
Angelina Jolie being a goddamn fucking homewrecker.

Nalee (01:16:30):
Right now.
Honestly, yeah, I'm not goingto lie, that is one Like I'm
kind of shook a little bit.
My girl Dirty, oh, like thatsurprises you, but not the fact
that she made out with herbrother.

Anthony (01:16:40):
No, oh, okay, you surprises you, but not the fact
that she made out with herbrother.
No oh okay, you make out withyour brother.

Nalee (01:16:51):
Ew, hells.
No, why would you even say thatit's?

Anthony (01:16:54):
so gross.

Nalee (01:16:54):
That's what I'm saying, that's the reaction I wanted for
you about Angelina and herbrother.
We're talking about coupleshere, okay, what's her brother
and her?
A couple, possibly?
We ain't talking about coupleshere, okay, what's my brother?
And?

Anthony (01:17:07):
her a couple possibly.

Nalee (01:17:08):
We talk about them though we're talking about mr bratty
and it was open mouth.

Anthony (01:17:10):
It was it.
I'm 99 positive.

Nalee (01:17:11):
Maybe he was having a heart attack and she was doing
cpr standing up.

Anthony (01:17:15):
I think it was on a red carpet yeah, it's so gross.

Nalee (01:17:20):
I don't know.
Well, I don't know her lifestory.
Maybe she was going throughsome shit, maybe she
accidentally thought he wasrapid, I don't fucking know.
Anyway, the scandal thatchanged the way I saw someone
was that one that we just talkedabout.

Anthony (01:17:33):
That's kind of yeah, that's.

Nalee (01:17:35):
That's kind of sad.
I thought they broke up alreadyand then they became a couple,
so that's a big scandal I feellike it's always like that I
think I was too young at thattime to even keep up with that.
That's why I didn't look intoit.
I was probably like 10.
93.
I was like 12.

(01:17:55):
I probably didn't care aboutthat.
I was caring about boogers andshit Boogers.

Anthony (01:18:02):
Boogers and shit.

Nalee (01:18:03):
Boogers.

Anthony (01:18:04):
Boogers, boogers.

Nalee (01:18:04):
Boogers.

Anthony (01:18:06):
All right, all right.
My celebrity scandal thatchanged the way I saw someone
was finding out that JustinTimberlake played a part in
Britney's abortion.
Oh yeah, that too.
That too, like the recent onethat came out recently In her
memoir.

Nalee (01:18:23):
Yeah, oh yeah, that too, like the recent one that came
out recently In her memoir.
Yeah, in her book.
That's kind of sad, that'sfucked up actually.
Yeah, yeah, I think hedefinitely got canceled for a
little bit there.
And then on top of that theywere like making fun of his
little weenie when he was doingthe acrobatics at his um

(01:18:43):
concerts and stuff.

Anthony (01:18:44):
Yeah, which is funny because they always say that
he's got a trouser snake ohreally, yeah, they always say
that justin trilling has a bigdick.
It's the.

Nalee (01:18:52):
They call it the trouser snake no pick, no proof, so, um,
we gotta see for ourselves.
Does he got a baby arm or doeshe have a little?
What is it?
A little can A little pop can Alittle pop can yeah, or does he
have a.

Anthony (01:19:07):
Twitzy roll.

Nalee (01:19:08):
Yeah, a little pimple I can hit you, okay, okay.

Anthony (01:19:14):
What about social media and internet trends?

Nalee (01:19:17):
What do you got?
So do you think influencersshould be considered celebrities
?

Anthony (01:19:22):
You don't think so.
No, okay, no, okay, no.

Nalee (01:19:25):
Why, why?

Anthony (01:19:27):
Because what are they doing?
They're not doing anythingthey're influencing.
They're influencing you to gobuy stuff, but they're being
paid to do that, and that's just.
I don't, I don't know, I'm just.
I'm against that, okay.

Nalee (01:19:41):
What, what, nothing.

Anthony (01:19:43):
Nothing.

Nalee (01:19:45):
Nothing.
Don't look at that, and then go.

Anthony (01:19:48):
I thought I saw an eyeball.

Nalee (01:19:49):
Bitch bye.
I hate you, I'm just kidding, Ijust had some scary news
yesterday too, so don't besaying shit like that.

Anthony (01:19:56):
Did you get more corn kernels missing?

Nalee (01:19:58):
No, it's not here, it's at our Airbnb that we went to
Florida.

Anthony (01:20:05):
Oh, here it's at our airbnb that we went to florida,
oh I don't think I told you thatstory?
I'll tell you later.
Yeah, tell me later.
Yeah, um, yeah.
No, I don't think that theyshould, because and I think that
this is the same with, like,even celebrities I get it that
they're paid endorsements, butI'm a firm believer in not
endorsing products that youdon't actually believe in okay

(01:20:28):
so like if somebody came to youand was like I'm gonna pay you a
million dollars to influencepeople to purchase this and it's
a piece of fucking shit yeah, I.
Yeah, yeah, I feel comfortablein saying that the majority of
quote unquote social mediainfluencers quote unquote the

(01:20:51):
celebrity ones don't actuallyeither use those products or
don't believe in them at all.
Okay, and I think that that isbullshit for them to claim a
check to convince people tothrow their hard-earned money
away on a piece of shit okay, Ihave a counter question for you.

Nalee (01:21:09):
Okay, um, I'll answer that later.
But but what if we were to dobecome an influencer?
Are you gonna feel the same way, like would you if they wanted
us, somebody wanted us topromote socks or something and
we get paid for it?
Would you feel like that?

Anthony (01:21:26):
I wouldn't feel like a celebrity.
Okay.
And I wouldn't be expected to betreated like a celebrity.
Okay.
And as far as getting anyendorsement deals or anything
like that, I will not endorsesomething that I do not believe
in.
Okay.

Nalee (01:21:43):
I love that answer.
I too agree with you.
I don't think that influencersshould be considered celebrities
because you're just tryingstuff, you're just like
promoting stuff like you don'thave actual.
I'm not saying you don't haveactual talent, you have talent
on influencing.
I will say that, like if youare able to like draw in yeah
draw the audience and like that,I will give you that credit.

(01:22:06):
But I don't consider you as acelebrity and I think with
TikTok and Instagram and stuff,I think like people get too
ahead of themselves.

Anthony (01:22:16):
A hundred percent, yeah , and with all of these and I
get it, it's because it's 2025and that's where we're currently
at but the majority of theseinfluencers are young.

Nalee (01:22:31):
They are very young.

Anthony (01:22:32):
They're young, fucking idiots.

Nalee (01:22:34):
And they're unexperienced .

Anthony (01:22:35):
They're inexperienced and they're like there's this
guy I kept seeing on TikTok,like when I first signed up.
I think His name is JackDoherty.
Okay, have you heard of him orseen him?
No, this kid he's.
I don't even think he's 21 yetand he has all this fucking

(01:23:00):
money and he's just wasting itand doing stupid shit with it,
and that's I have a problem withthat, okay.
And it's probably like likepart sounds a little jealousy,
part jealousy, but also partmaturity level, like yeah, like
what are you doing?
yeah, yeah and another thing,and I don't know if you would
consider this like an influencer, but all these people who, like

(01:23:20):
the majority of theseinfluencers, I feel also have
also have like an OnlyFans.

Nalee (01:23:25):
Probably yeah.

Anthony (01:23:26):
So more power to you.

Nalee (01:23:27):
If that's what you want to do, yeah, but I'm an OnlyFans
too, but I ain't going to plugit in.

Anthony (01:23:33):
I'll find it.
Ay, I'll find it.

Nalee (01:23:37):
You probably are already subscribed to it, probably, ay.
Thanks, all right.

Anthony (01:23:43):
Yeah, so no, I don't think they should be considered
celebrities, and you don'teither.

Nalee (01:23:47):
No I don't.
In all instances they shouldnot be.
Yeah, I don't think so, like Ithink the term celebrity is
being thrown out too easily.
Yes, Like if you get one biglike, if you get like a five
minute of fame, apparentlyyou're considered a celebrity.
But in my terms of celebrity,like you have to have like some

(01:24:10):
kind of talent, you know likeacting or singing or like art,
you know, but if you're justshowing people how to put on
lotion, or showing people how toput on moisturizer or makeup.
I could be an influence, but I'mnot a celebrity.
You know what I mean.
Yeah, but more power to you.
If you feel like you're acelebrity, like I'm not gonna

(01:24:32):
hate on you, I'm just saying I'mgonna hate on you because most
of those people let it go totheir heads oh well, I'm just
saying I'm not gonna hate on you.
Do what you gotta do to make,get that bag, but teach me to do
that too do you know whomichaela?
I do, michaela.
Yeah, I know exactly who youare.
I, I like her I like her, butshe's so fake I feel like that's

(01:24:55):
a touchy subject but, um, Ifeel like there are.
I feel like there are someproducts that she reviews that
she is genuinely like.
Oh, I agree.

Anthony (01:25:03):
Yeah, I agree, but there are some um, that she
reviews, that she is genuinelylike.
Oh, I agree, I agree that thereare some.

Nalee (01:25:06):
I think you can tell when she's not really into a product
, because she's overly the top.
Her accent is super strong, shedoes put in a lot of stuff, but
, like I said, no hate towardsher, more power to you.
I think it also comes to thebalance of like.
If you do actually support it,though, then I wouldn't give you

(01:25:28):
as much shit, but if you'rejust doing it for clout or for
followers or whatever like, it'snot authentic I feel like a lot
of them do that though yeah,it's for the money.
Hell, if you gave me a sock andyou said I will get a million
dollars to wear that one sockfor one episode, you know, know,
goddamn.
Well, I'm going to put my feetup with that sock on.
Goddamn, sign me up.

Anthony (01:25:51):
But I'm not going to call myself a celebrity.

Nalee (01:25:54):
I will call myself a sock connoisseur.

Anthony (01:25:56):
A sock connoisseur.

Nalee (01:25:57):
Yeah, even though you're just wearing it Period, you're
not making it.

Anthony (01:25:59):
Yeah, you're not helping contribute in any way
other than wearing it.

Nalee (01:26:03):
I'm contributing by showing it off.
Okay, okay, okay.
Do with what you will with thatinformation.
Do with that of what you will,yeah.

Anthony (01:26:13):
Okay, Okay.
So my social media question isdo you think that the internet
is more fun or more toxic?
Now?

Nalee (01:26:20):
Oh, toxic 100% 1000% 100% .
Yeah, like they're making upthese lies.
Like, for example, I was onFacebook the other day and I saw
a post that said that, likewho's the star that's alive
right now?
Like the Rock died.
Like I'm like what the fuck?
Like he's well and alive.

(01:26:40):
Or like Shania Twain passedaway.
Like, click on this link orwhatever.
Like he's well and alive.
Or like Shania Toyn passed away.
Like, click on this link orwhatever.
Like stuff like that.
Yeah, like why, who comes upwith that stuff?

Anthony (01:26:52):
Well, even just going back to like our pride post on
TikTok.

Nalee (01:26:56):
Yeah, I don't know.
It's just so toxic it's crazy.
Scroll past that shit.

Anthony (01:27:01):
Yeah, you know.

Nalee (01:27:05):
I will say, though I do I don't know, it might be a half
and half, like I do like thefact that people are able to
speak their mind.
I will give them that.
Yes, but if you're going totalk and be rude, then don't
Like, keep your comments toyourself, kind of a thing
Exactly.

(01:27:28):
But I will have to say back inthe olden days and this is
something I talk about all thetime Because I joke a lot I do
say really hurtful things in ajoking way, but I do feel like
it relates to this low key thatI will have to say this
generation is way more sensitivethan back then.
You cannot talk about certaintopics without people getting
butthurt.
Yeah, again to a pride post.
Like you know, it's just yeahit's okay for other people to

(01:27:52):
have different opinions thanyours.
Like, don't cry about it, likeit's just as simple as that and,
um, I get it.
There are certain topics thatare a little bit more serious
and you have to kind of likewalk on eggshells on certain
things, which I get it, it'sappropriate, but, like I don't

(01:28:12):
know, I can't come up with agood example.

Anthony (01:28:14):
But I'm just saying no, I know exactly what you're
saying.

Nalee (01:28:16):
Yeah, Like, I do feel like people nowadays or this
generations.
They are way more sensitivethan the past.
So yeah, yeah, All right.

Anthony (01:28:26):
Okay.

Nalee (01:28:27):
Well, my next question is from fandoms, trends and
cultural moments, what culturalmoment defines your generation?

Anthony (01:28:39):
Okay, I don't know if this is like a cultural moment.
Okay.
But I was just reading somethingthe other day about my
generation and how we are, thegeneration who is kind of the
lapse Like.
We know how to use a rotaryphone and we know how to use the
internet.
We know how to you know, dothings from the generation prior

(01:29:04):
to us and going forward.

Nalee (01:29:06):
So we're kind of like that middle generation if you,
if that makes sense okay, okay,um, for me, it's definitely the
rise of social media, like, um,I'm like in the millennial
generation.
You, you know, 1981 to 1996, Iwas born in 1993.
And you know, facebook launchedin 2004, which has made like a

(01:29:29):
really big impact.
I mean, there's a lot of otherdefining moments, like, for
example, like 9-11.
That's a big one.

Anthony (01:29:38):
Do you remember where you were for 9-11?

Nalee (01:29:40):
I do actually.
So I was in gym class and youremember those big like I don't
think that I don't, I'm, I'm 100.
They sure they don't do this ingym class anymore for like
elementary schools, but I was inelementary and you know how,
like they have that big colorfulballoon, they blow up the ear
and then you go sit under it,yeah so we were doing that and
then, uh, my gym teacher got acall.

(01:30:02):
She had a twin sister thatlived in the Twin Towers and she
was notified.

Anthony (01:30:06):
You mean worked in the Twin Towers?

Nalee (01:30:07):
No, oh yeah, she worked, or I don't know lived.

Anthony (01:30:11):
I don't know Lived in New York, or I don't know, but
she was in the Twin Towers.
I just think they hadapartments.

Nalee (01:30:16):
I thought it was a business just know that she was
in the twin towers and shedidn't make it.
And so then when she got thenews, my teacher was like
bawling and we were all justlike what's going on, like under
the parachute, like she wascrying.
And then we all got out andthen we had to like end the the
rest of the class because shehad to switch to her substitute.

(01:30:37):
So then we just kind of likesat at the.
Um, we didn't sit.
I mean, you know those likethose board that has the wheels.
Yeah, we were just doing thatfor the rest of the class.

Anthony (01:30:48):
Yeah.

Nalee (01:30:48):
I hated those things Really.

Anthony (01:30:50):
Yeah, because I always got my fingers oh, me too, like
you get crushed.
They were poorly designed.

Nalee (01:30:55):
Yes, and I remember that, and the ball with the handle
and you could bounce on it.
Yeah, we were playing withthose.
But yeah, I remember HaydenHeights.
I think I was in second gradegym class.
I think her name was Ms Brownor something like that.

Anthony (01:31:08):
I was in sixth grade in Mr Coates' class, okay, and
that was all we watched in everyclass that we went to that day.

Nalee (01:31:21):
You guys watched it.

Anthony (01:31:22):
Yeah, they left the TVs on.

Nalee (01:31:24):
That's so scary, that's so traumatizing.
I know oh.
Also, I want to add two moreHarry Potter and, you know,
Twilight.
They made their phenomenon inthe history book and Mean Girls.

Anthony (01:31:40):
Oh Mean Girls.

Nalee (01:31:41):
Or 2004.
So yeah, Anyway.

Anthony (01:31:48):
I just want to go back to what I was saying, because I
found what I was telling youabout.
Okay, so I found this thing,and it said that we're called
the bridge generation, and so we.

Nalee (01:31:59):
Are you a millennial too?

Anthony (01:32:01):
No, what am I Gen Z?

Nalee (01:32:04):
I think you're a Gen Z.
Let me look it up.
What's Gen Z 1997.
No, you're not Gen Z To 2012.

Anthony (01:32:16):
Well, maybe I am a millennial.

Nalee (01:32:17):
I think you're a boomer.
No, I'm not.

Anthony (01:32:20):
You fucker.

Nalee (01:32:22):
Oh my God, I make myself laugh.
What's a millennial, millennial, I told you was um let's see 18
, 18, 19, 1981 to 1996 oh, soyou're like me, okay?

Anthony (01:32:41):
yeah, I'm a millennial too so we like we played outside
until the streetlights came on.
Yeah, love that Used rotaryphones, cassette tapes and paper
maps, yep.
But we also adapted quickly toemail texting and the internet.

Nalee (01:32:54):
I loved AOL.

Anthony (01:32:56):
The dial-up yeah, yeah.

Nalee (01:32:58):
I mean not the dial-up.
I loved MSN.
Sorry.

Anthony (01:33:00):
Oh yeah, I just saw something the other day.
It was a picture of the old MSNand it was like one day we all
logged out of this for the lasttime.

Nalee (01:33:08):
Yeah, damn, that's so sad .
Can we go back to that please.
I used to get so much messageson MSN from random ass people oh
really, but it was so funtalking to them.
Well, I never did anythingBecause at that time I don't
think at that time, when MSNfirst came out, they had like
webcams and stuff.
So you were just like IMingpeople back and forth, yeah.

(01:33:28):
And then when, like the newtouch screen laptops, like the
first new touch screen laptopscame through, that's when the
webcams came in and that's whenB and I first started dating.
So I only know that because wewebcam like I think twice, and
then we broke up.
That's what's up.
That's what's up, is that?

Anthony (01:33:48):
what you did.
What Is that what you did?

Nalee (01:33:50):
No, I was an innocent child.
Oh, for fuck's sake, I was like15.
I don't know how to do thatstuff, the hell.
I showed him my hair.
I showed him food that I ate.

Anthony (01:34:05):
I could have done a mukbang challenge.
I showed him the picture ofRobert Pattinson, but I wouldn't
allow him to see me naked.

Nalee (01:34:09):
Actually, he didn't see my room because my sister
wouldn't allow.
Linda wouldn't allow me to takeher laptop out of her room
because she said I'd use it toher, your sister, who.
Linda.

Anthony (01:34:18):
You have a sister named Linda.

Nalee (01:34:20):
Yeah, she's the one that's older than myla oh yeah,
okay yeah, but then I know she'sthe only one who has an
american name.
Yeah, yeah it's because she wasnamed after the nurse that
delivered her oh, and she was.

Anthony (01:34:34):
I think I did know that .

Nalee (01:34:35):
I think, yeah, she was the first in our family who was
born in the us, so that's whyshe has an american name.
Um, but yeah, like she wouldn'tlet us take out the laptop
outside of her room because shewas like we'd use it too long so
then we just stay in her room.
So no, we weren't doing nonasty nasty on a webcam.
Okay, you do.

(01:34:56):
You.
I was saying to him, I think,if I remember correctly, the
first time I think I was sayingto him it was so stupid and
cringy.

Anthony (01:35:04):
That sounds about right .

Nalee (01:35:07):
All right.

Anthony (01:35:08):
Okay.

Nalee (01:35:08):
Okay, well, now we're just going to.

Anthony (01:35:15):
Are you stoned?

Nalee (01:35:17):
I don't know what to say.
Okay, now we are up to thepoint where we're just going to
kind of wrap things up inregards to, like, the pop
culture moment and we're justgoing to talk about some of our
favorite moments, our take orridiculous quote.
Now, my favorite one of alltimes is the I don't know her.
I don't know, I don't know her,and if you guess correctly is

(01:35:40):
from Miss Mariah Carey throwingshade at Miss JLo.
Guessed correctly is from missmariah carey throwing shade at
miss j-lo.
Um, their beef started wayearly in 2000s when mariah carey
said famously I don't know herafter being asked about j-lo.
It was a shady moment but itdefinitely became iconic and the
tension allegedly stemmed fromMariah's ex-husband and then

(01:36:04):
Sony executive, tony, giving JLoa music sample of Mariah's that
she was planning to use.
But yeah, that was my favoritemoment and Mariah is a petty
queen and I love her for that.

Anthony (01:36:20):
And iconic for that.

Nalee (01:36:21):
Yes, I love her for that too, yes, yes.

Anthony (01:36:24):
What about yours?
Well, mine, I have two.
One was the Nipplegate 2004.

Nalee (01:36:29):
Never heard of that.
I'm interested.

Anthony (01:36:31):
That was Justin Timberlake and Janet Jackson.
Oh, the.
Super Bowl, where he like rippedoff her, where he like ripped
off and her boob came out.
Was it on purpose?
Well, that's the controversy.
Oh okay, Was it?
I think it came off too easilyand they made a big deal about

(01:36:53):
it because her breast was outand the Super Bowl is a family
friendly thing.

Nalee (01:36:59):
It's a family thing.

Anthony (01:37:00):
And I think Justin Timberlake got a lot of heat for
it oh but I also personally, Idon't think he knew about it.
I think janet jackson knew whatshe was doing.
Oh, okay, and because if you goback and you watch the, the way
that it rips, okay, clearlywasn't a wardrobe malfunction

(01:37:22):
okay so that's the Nipplegate2004.
Okay.
The other thing that I had wasBritney Spears' 2007 breakdown
and her epic comeback yes, withWomanizer.

Nalee (01:37:33):
Yes, Britney Spears.
I don't care what anybody says,like she's crazy, whatever, but
that bitch is iconic yeah.
Like there is no other BritneySpears.

Anthony (01:37:44):
There will never be any other britney spears britney
spears had the talent and thedancing and christina aguilera
had the voice, but I don'tchristina aguilera in my mind.
Voice aside, yeah, performancewise does not compare I don't
think so.

Nalee (01:37:59):
I think britney spears has like the innocence and she
also had the presence ofwomanizing people.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, she was just it.
I love Britney Spears.

Anthony (01:38:12):
The way she would move.

Nalee (01:38:13):
Yeah.

Anthony (01:38:14):
I love watching her old performances yeah.

Nalee (01:38:16):
I like the ones where she walks up the stairs and she'd
look back and smile.
She'd turn around with thatlittle smile.
I love that.
When I see that, it makes me sosad.

Anthony (01:38:25):
To see where she is now yeah.

Nalee (01:38:28):
I think I sent it to you once.
I legit cried.
I'm like, oh my god, like whathappened to this beautiful
person?
Yeah, so sad.

Anthony (01:38:36):
All the drugs that they gave her.

Nalee (01:38:38):
Alright, now here's for the hot tea.
Aka Nali's hypothetical hotline.
I am going to try to make thislike a maybe I don't know a
regular thing.
We'll see how it goes, becauseI know you guys really liked the
first hypothetical that I gavein the first episode.
So we'll see how this goes.

(01:39:01):
But imagine this You've been ina long-term relationship years,
deep, real love, real history.
But lately something's beenfeeling off.
You've had a gut feeling, aninkling, that he might be
cheating.
Then one day it all comescrashing down.
You find out he's been cheating, and not just once.

(01:39:22):
He's been consistently seenwith the same girl and then,
just when you think it can't getworse, he confesses he lied
about an out-of-state trip andjust so happens to run into her
again.
Now this confirms everythingyour intuition's been telling
you.
You've built so much together,but this kind of betrayal, it

(01:39:43):
cuts deep.
So be honest, if you were inher shoes, would you stay and
try to fix it, or would you movethe fuck on?
Don't sugarcoat anything.
What do you think or what wouldyou do in this situation?
Bye, bye, bye, even though youguys spent such a long time
together.

Anthony (01:40:03):
Well, apparently it didn't mean anything that it was
a consistent, regular meetupwith somebody and you don't just
randomly happen to run intosomebody halfway around the
world, halfway across thecountry.
What?

Nalee (01:40:13):
if her family was there, and then y'all just end up
seeing each other there.
What about that?
What if it?

Anthony (01:40:23):
was a true coincidence.
That's a pretty small fuckingchance.

Nalee (01:40:25):
You think so?

Anthony (01:40:25):
Yes.

Nalee (01:40:26):
Okay.

Anthony (01:40:27):
You fly across country and you just happen to run into
the same person that you've beenhooking up with at the same
location the same time.
No, that's not a coincidence.
Okay, that was planned.

Nalee (01:40:43):
Okay, thousand percent, all right.
No, that's not a coincidence.
Okay, that was planned.
Okay, thousand percent, allright.
I definitely would move thefuck on, like it's like what you
said, like whether it's along-term relationship or
whatever.
Like if you've beenconsistently like doing this
behind my back, it's a no for me.
Like what I'm gonna say next Iprobably will get hate for, but

(01:41:09):
if it didn't turn out that youwere consistently like doing
this behind my back and let'ssay, like it was my, it was my
first time ever catching youdoing something like this.
Like it was a one and done yeahthing well, I don't know if it's
like physical, it's a one anddone sort of thing.
Well, I don't know.
If it's like physical, it's nofor me, like, don't touch me,

(01:41:29):
don't come near me.
But let's just say like, ifit's like a Verbal thing, or
like you talk to them on thephone or, I don't know, message
them on Facebook or whatever, Idon't know, maybe them on um
facebook or whatever, I don'tknow.
Maybe, maybe I'm not saying forsure, but maybe I might be able
to overlook that and be likeokay, you know what, it was a

(01:41:52):
mistake, people make mistake andmove on.
But like, if you'reconsistently being seen with
this person and you're likedenying it, and then when truth
comes out and you said, oh, yeah, by the way, by the bye, yeah,
bitch bye, like I'm done, yeah,by the bye, by the bye, oh, and
I guess, what about you like?

(01:42:13):
let's just say, if it wasn'tlike like this, like if it
wasn't like in this hypotheticalsituation where y'all met like
physically, like if it was likeover the phone, like I said, or
like a text message, or throughmessages, like, would you be
like bye, or would you also belike I'm a so?

Anthony (01:42:30):
it sounds like you're asking like if I would consider
emotional cheating.
Yeah, if I would consider itemotional cheating.
And if that would be enough toend the relationship.
It would really depend on thelevel of emotional cheating,
like how involved are you inthat?

Nalee (01:42:45):
What if it was like two weeks?

Anthony (01:42:48):
What I mean, like what kind of conversations, what kind
of text messages, what's beingdiscussed?

Nalee (01:42:55):
I don't know what would your line be Like if I don't
know?
What would your line be Like ifI don't know?
If they were like oh, oh, yeah,it's good to see you, blah,
blah, miss you, stuff like that.
Is that a line I don't know?

Anthony (01:43:10):
I mean it could be, I think that that's fine.
That's fine as far as, like youwould be, I'm not going to
break up with somebody becauseyou're texting somebody or
you're talking to somebody andyou're saying, oh yeah, I miss
you.

Nalee (01:43:21):
Okay, what is your line?
Is what I'm asking, like, whatwill they have to say for you to
be like?
No, I guess I could have askedthat like that.

Anthony (01:43:31):
To begin with, yeah, I think once it starts getting
into conversations about makingplans to meet.
Okay.
Cause, then you're starting toget into some Rocky stuff.
You're starting to get deep inthe water.
Where you're, that allure isthere, that temptation is

(01:43:52):
getting thicker.
Okay, and I think that thatwould be my line.
What would your line be?

Nalee (01:44:02):
I think mine would be the same.
Like I think I am willing toforgive if it's like, if they're
not really, if they're justdoing it to like validate
themselves.
I don't know, I feel likesometimes men does that, like
they do stupid shit to findvalidation.
You know what I mean.
And maybe maybe girls do it too.
I don't know, I personallydon't do that, but you know, I

(01:44:23):
don't know both.
Yeah, and men and women do it.
Yeah, it's possible, you know.
But, like, if they're justdoing it to validate that, oh
yeah, like I can still, like Icould still get other girls
beside the person I'm with andthey're just trying to find
validation, then okay, you knowwhat, like it is what it is, you
find your validation and don'tdo it again, kind of a thing.

(01:44:45):
I don't know.
But if it's, if, like you said,if they're talking about like
hey, like I'm gonna meet you upat this place, like let's go out
and do this, then yeah, that'sthe line for me, like, and if
there's like, like sexting orpictures.
Oh yeah, like of like body parts, yeah, okay, okay, yeah, bye,

(01:45:10):
bye.
I would like to say I wouldlike to be the strong person to
be like if they cheated on me,like no, that's it for me.
But I feel like, when it comesto like marriage or relationship
, like longterm relationship,there's so many gray areas that,
like you have to consider.
Like you know, there's a lot ofstuff to consider.

Anthony (01:45:33):
There's a lot of stuff, but in this scenario.
In this hypothetical scenariolike there's no fucking way that
you flew across the country.
I'm done.

Nalee (01:45:41):
Coincidentally ran into them.

Anthony (01:45:43):
Bye, yeah Bullshit, yeah Bullshit.

Nalee (01:45:45):
But anyways, y'all listeners, let me know what you
think and let me know if youguys like these little Nellie's
hypothetical hotline.
Maybe we'll continue to do itmore often.

Anthony (01:45:56):
We're going to make it a thing.

Nalee (01:45:58):
Yeah, but next week we're talking about friendship
dynamics and growing up.
Whether you're shedding stalefriendships or screenshotting
their group chat receipts, it'snormal.
It's messy and ho.
You're not the only onespiraling.
Catch you next time for moreoversharing, because growth,
yeah, it's a team sport withdrama.

Anthony (01:46:20):
Don't forget to follow us on socials.
Drop your hot takes.
No fence sitting allowed.

Nalee (01:46:26):
We want to know what you're dragging, defending and
love-hating altogether.
Bye, Bye.
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