🐢 Two Turtles in a Big World: The Minds Behind the Madness 🐢

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Nalee (00:16):
Last week.
That was just your littleappetizer, a teaser, a tiny
taste of the chaos that is TwinTangents.

Anthony (00:25):
But this week, oh honey , we're serving the main course.

Nalee (00:29):
Because, before we drag you down another spiral of
unfiltered thoughts andcompletely off-topic debates, we
figured it's time you met theminds behind the madness.

Anthony (00:42):
This episode is all about pulling back the curtain
and giving you a personal,slightly dramatic and definitely
unhinged look into who wereally are.

Nalee (00:52):
That's right, we're talking about Anthony and Nali,
the twins, the drama, the dualpersonalities that somehow work
together and clash at the samedamn time.

Anthony (01:05):
So if you thought last week was a lot, buckle up.
Ho, you're about to get a fulltaste of the voices behind the
tangents.
And trust us, we're a lot, butwe're worth it.
Yeah, okay, why are youlaughing at me?

Nalee (01:22):
I read it wrong but you said it right.
Okay, so that's me All right.
So how this is going to work iswe're just going to.
Why are you laughing at me?
I read it wrong but you said itright.
Okay, so it's me All right.
So how this is going to work iswe're just going to kind of ask
some questions and then we justkind of go back and forth so
that you guys can kind of reallyget to know who me and Anthony
are, and me being Natalie andAnthony.
So what's your name, where areyou from and what's your

(01:42):
ethnicity?

Anthony (01:50):
My name is Anthony.
I'm from the great state ofWisconsin.
No, I am, I am.
I was born in Las Vegas, Ilived in New Mexico until I was
10 and I moved to Wisconsin andI have resided here since 1997.
Wow, and I am Italian, sicilian, polish and Russian.

Nalee (02:11):
That's a lot.

Anthony (02:12):
I know I'm a mutt.

Nalee (02:14):
Oh, we like mutts.
Who doesn't?
I don't know, I don't know howto answer that.
My name is Nali.
I am originally from Minnesota,st paul, minnesota, um but I've

(02:34):
moved around a lot and I'm mungasian, I mean, I'm mung
american that's it just mungamerican yeah, I'm mung american
god, I really am a mutt you are.

Anthony (02:42):
Okay, how would your besties describe you?

Nalee (02:46):
Y'all already know I'm fucking loud.
I don't know I've recentlygotten this, but like a bad
influence.
I don't think I'm a badinfluence, though.

Anthony (02:54):
You're an instigator.

Nalee (02:55):
Am.

Anthony (02:55):
I yeah, I would agree with that.

Nalee (02:58):
I don't know if that's a good or a bad thing, but you
know what?
I'm going to take it throughstrides.
I'm going to wear that loud andproud.

Anthony (03:04):
I think it can be both, yeah.

Nalee (03:06):
I instigate on good things, not bad things.

Anthony (03:08):
And you just said you're loud.
What happened?
She was shy last week,everybody.

Nalee (03:12):
Okay, well, I'm actually going to circle back to that.
That was an inside joke.
I am shy around people, I don'tknow, but I'm actually not shy.
No, actually not shy like.
No, I am the best way todescribe it is I'm a turtle like
when I'm in my shell, turtlelike I'm comfortable and I'm
close with um.

(03:32):
And when I'm cup, oh my god, I'mlike I don't even know how to
describe myself I know exactlywhat you're saying, because I'm
the same way yeah, like I'm aturtle, so like when I'm in my
shell, I I'm surrounded bycomfort, so I'm open.
But then, like when I'm outsideof my shell, I'm like scared of
the world, like I'm a teeny,tiny turtle against a big, big
world.
So that's how I am, that'sbeautiful.

(03:55):
Yeah, what.

Anthony (03:56):
That's beautiful yeah.

Nalee (03:58):
I'm a tiny turtle in a big, big world.

Anthony (04:00):
Yeah.

Nalee (04:01):
Yeah, but I like that.
I world.
Yeah, yeah, but I like thatpant pending.

Anthony (04:10):
Yeah, that's, that's me in a nutshell.
What about you, boo?
Um, I don't know how peoplewould describe me.
I think that they woulddescribe me as honest,
old-fashioned, okay and a loveroh, I have a good one.

Nalee (04:24):
Let's twist this.

Anthony (04:26):
Okay.

Nalee (04:26):
You describe me and I describe you.

Anthony (04:29):
I just did.
You're an instigator Bitch.
No, I'm just kidding.
I think that you're a bubblypersonality.
Okay, I think.

Nalee (04:38):
I'm blushing and I don't even know if that's a good thing
.

Anthony (04:41):
You're a goofball.
I am yeah.
I don't even know if that's agood thing.
You're a goofball.
I am yeah, and I think thatyou're very sentimental with
friends and family, Like theymean a lot to you.

Nalee (04:53):
Yeah, they do.
Okay, this is a crying podcast.
Now I ain't going to cry.
Just kidding For you.
I think not a lot of peopleknow this, but you're very
caring, like um.
I think people who are likethat knows you personally.
I think you're a very, verycaring person um one thing that

(05:16):
oh, here we go the other thingthat I would describe you as is
charming.
You're absolutely charming, likeyou are.
A castanova is is what it, andI'm sure it isn't the first time
you've heard that it's not.
It's not.
It's in the name.

Anthony (05:29):
Anthony Casanova.

Nalee (05:31):
But you know, like um, and I think you're just a very,
like, blessed person.

Anthony (05:39):
You think I'm blessed I think you're blessed.
I wish I had your outlook.

Nalee (05:43):
What.

Anthony (05:43):
I don't know, Sometimes I'm just like no, I feel like.

Nalee (05:46):
no, I feel like you're very blessed, like I think God
definitely, like the biggeruniverse, definitely tests you a
lot, but I think, um, I thinkyou're very blessed because you
have me in your life.

Anthony (05:58):
Oh, thank you, You're welcome.
I definitely am.
That's how I describe you.
I am blessed to have you in mylife.

Nalee (06:03):
Yeah, I am too.
All right, what is one thingyou're super passionate about?

Anthony (06:08):
I don't know.
Can I get back to you on that?
Because I'm still.
I feel like I'm in like I wasjust telling you and Stephanie
this the other day that I'm like, I still feel like I'm in like
my midlife crisis, where I'mlike I don't know what I'm
passionate about, I don't knowwhat my direction is in life.

Nalee (06:22):
Okay.

Anthony (06:23):
And I'm just kind of taking day by day and like
rolling with it.
Okay, um, I.
One other thing that I'mpassionate about is like so you
do know what you're passionateabout.
I don't know if I wouldnecessarily say I'm passionate
about it, but I do trulythoroughly enjoy it, like crafts
.

Nalee (06:38):
Okay, I see that.

Anthony (06:45):
You're very crafty.
Well, so are you.
You're an amazing artist.

Nalee (06:47):
You're an amazing artist.
No, I can't paint.
I can't paint, I can't draw, Ijust uh diamond art bitch hello,
that's paint by numbers.

Anthony (06:51):
No, you have to be patient to do diamond art, I
bought a whole bunch and Ihaven't done shit I haven't
touched one.

Nalee (06:56):
I still have one for new year's yeah that I've been
working on for like patience isalso a very good way to describe
you.

Anthony (07:02):
You're very patient, okay well, that's a bold-faced
lie.
I have zero patience.
Do you Zero patience.
I feel like you're prettypatient.
No, okay, no.

Nalee (07:10):
I guess you'd be showing good.

Anthony (07:11):
I put it on a good front.

Nalee (07:12):
Yeah, you put it on a good front.
I only want that patientAnthony, that I don't want the
other one.
Super passionate about Okay Wellum, just a little side note,
based on what you said earlierabout, like, your midlife crisis
or not knowing what you'redoing.
All I just have to say just toyou or for to any listener, like

(07:32):
I think that's completely okay,like you don't need to know
exactly what you want.
You don't need to exactly knowwhat you're doing in life.
I think being alive in generalright now is just hard in itself
.
So I think just being here,being who you are, is like

(07:54):
enough already.
But obviously I know everybody.
They want to find their purpose, they want to find what they're
meant to be or do, but justknow that, like, although
there's a lot of outsidepressure, it's okay to not know
what you want to do, even at 30,even at 50, even at 60.
Yeah, so I just wanted to putit out there for you.

Anthony (08:14):
Thank you.
I appreciate those wordsbecause I do.

Nalee (08:17):
Not just to you, to everybody.

Anthony (08:18):
We all need to remind ourselves of that because life
gets so heavy.
Remind ourselves of thatbecause life gets so heavy.

Nalee (08:22):
Yeah, it really does.
But for me, something I'mpassionate about is, I guess I
don't have like a specific likepassion of like, oh, I like to
do woodworking or whatever, butit is what you said I love
crafting, I love anything to dowith art, I love painting, I
love doing ceramics, I love justbeing creative.

(08:45):
I think and it's funny becauseI'm not very creative I'm a copy
and paste machine, like if yougive me something, I will do it
exactly the same, but if youwant me to, like, create
something out of thin air, bitch, give me a decade and I still
wouldn't have it figured out.

Anthony (09:00):
Really yeah.

Nalee (09:02):
I'm not creative, I'm just good at like copying stuff
I feel like I am inclined todisagree with you because I feel
like you would be able to no,I've tried really yeah, for
example, when I first doing, Ifirst started doing nails like
my sister wanted me to freestyleher nails that she was so bad I

(09:23):
didn't even take any photos ofit but I just watched you do
stephanie's nails earlier I hadto look at a photo, to kind of
follow but you still were doingit freehand yeah, but it's still
somebody else's inspirationfrom it, though.
Yeah, I guess I don't know, Idon't think I'm creative like as
an artsy person, because I doknow that I like artsy stuff.
I see myself as not a veryartsy person, because I do know

(09:44):
that I like artsy stuff.
I see myself as not a veryartsy person.
So it might just I don't know-I think you're very creative and
artsy.

Anthony (09:52):
Thank you, I love watching your TikToks of your
nails.

Nalee (09:56):
Oh, thank you.
Oh yeah, by the way, I mean, ifany of you guys are into like
arts and stuff, just a littleplug in here.
I do have a TikTok page and aInstagram page.
It's I don't even know how topronounce it because it's not
really even a pronunciation butit's my first name spelled
backward Elon.

Anthony (10:15):
Made.

Nalee (10:16):
Yeah, so it's E-E-L-A-N-M-A-D-E.
So if y'all want to check outmy work, y'all got your nails.
Yeah, you can go check out mywork.
I mean they're phenomenal.

Anthony (10:26):
Thank you Honestly.
Like you don't give yourselfenough credit for your nails.

Nalee (10:29):
Thank you, I don't.
I am very critical of my work.

Anthony (10:33):
Everybody's their own worst critic.

Nalee (10:34):
Yeah, because I am like a very big perfectionist.
I think people who do come anddo my nails with me they know
that I do take a long time.
But, fair warning, I do letpeople know I take a long time.
So if you come, you're comingat your own risk.

Anthony (10:50):
Um, you're paying for the quality and the experience
period.

Nalee (10:53):
Uh, you get entertainment and good nails, so it is what
it is.

Anthony (10:56):
And food.
She has a nice little candybowl over there.

Nalee (11:01):
But yeah, like I think just anything to do with crafts
is something that I'm reallypassionate about, because I was
just telling Bea that like mydream day would be to wake up
like in the countryside and justdoing ceramics and pots.

Anthony (11:17):
Really.

Nalee (11:17):
Yeah, that would be a dream.

Anthony (11:20):
You like ceramics?
I love ceramics oh my God, myaunt and uncle used to own their
own ceramic shop.

Nalee (11:26):
Are you serious?
Yeah, this is why I met you,anthony.
It's meant to be.

Anthony (11:30):
And they still have till this day, like they have
their kiln in the garage and allof the molds.
Really, yeah, they built up ashop inside their garage, okay,
and they started like thepouring and everything, and then
at some point, I'm literally sointerested in this right now.

Nalee (11:46):
Yeah.

Anthony (11:47):
I should show you some of her stuff.
Oh my God, I love that.
Earlier, when Stephanie askedyou if that was the smallest
brush you had, it made me thinkmy aunt, and this was something
that I told the story at herfuneral.
I always used to remember, likein her ceramic shop, because
they built it in their garageand then they ended up getting
an actual standalone shop.
Wow, that I think they rentedand they set up all their shops

(12:10):
and she would like teachpainting classes.
But I used to watch her and shewould sit there with a paint
brush I'm not kidding you, I'mnot making this up like a single
hair in the paintbrush and Iwould watch her like paint, the
eyelashes on little animals andlike the little twinkle in their
eye Wow, that's so amazing.
Yeah, oh my God, I love that Ishould show you some of her work

(12:31):
.
But yeah, my uncle's like.
I don't know what I'm going todo with all these molds and the
kiln.

Nalee (12:37):
That's crazy yeah.

Anthony (12:39):
If I was that talented, I would love to open up a
ceramic shop.

Nalee (12:43):
That's crazy.
Sell them.
That talented, I would love toopen up a ceramic shop.
That's crazy.
Sell them, yeah, because likeyeah like um that's crazy.
I'm so like mind blown rightnow because I know like I think
ceramics is a very like oldthing.
I don't know if people are intoit, like right now.
I know people do like the dry,dry clay from like michael's or
whatever.
But yeah, like in high school,there's like a ceramic class.

Anthony (13:05):
And like.

Nalee (13:07):
I loved it so much I became the TA for like two
semesters, just to let it yeah,just so that, cause I had a lot
of credits.
So then I was able to do like aTA for like I think, the last, I
would say the last semester anda half a semester before that.
I had a lot of credits so Icould just do whatever.

(13:27):
So I have like two study hallsand I was TAing for the ceramics
class and like I love touchingclay and I actually got entered
into a ceramic contest and I wonfirst place.

Anthony (13:38):
Congratulations.
What did you make?
It was a whale.

Nalee (13:41):
It was an orange whale, oh Do you still have it.
Um, I don't.
I think it broke.
It was a.
It was a whale piggy bank ohyeah all right.

Anthony (13:53):
Well, what's something that you're currently working on
, personally or professionally?

Nalee (13:59):
um for me, for me, something I'm currently working
on professionally.
I don't know like I think rightnow I'm at a, I'm at a um spot
in my career where I'm notreally sure what I want to do.
I think, being an adult, though, it definitely opens your eyes

(14:19):
to how, how available things areto you, like you could do so
many things, but personally, Ithink I just want to be happy,
like.
I think just being happy likewith what I have, being like
grateful for what I have,because it's the situations of
like there's.
It's again, I'm a small turtlein a big big world, so nothing's

(14:44):
really that serious, you know,like there's there's way bigger
things out there that peopledeal with and like Count your
blessings and be grateful forwhat you have.
Yeah, that's what I'm working on.
What about you?

Anthony (14:57):
I'm not working on anything I need.
I think, personally, I'm justtrying to work on myself Because
I feel like we're gonna getlike really emotional right now.

Nalee (15:08):
Okay.

Anthony (15:09):
I think that I feel like I've lost myself in, like
the last, like five years.

Nalee (15:14):
I don't know why.

Anthony (15:15):
I don't know, I don't know what.
I'm just like missing a spark.

Nalee (15:19):
Okay.

Anthony (15:20):
And I don't know.

Nalee (15:22):
I've been trying to like Do certain things, to like try
and find myself again okay andyeah I will say, though I think
that, like I wouldn't say, youper se lost yourself because,
clearly, like I haven't knownyou, like individually outside
of work, like we haven'tactually done a lot of stuff

(15:44):
just until recently, but for me,like I hope you know that
you've actually been dealingwith a lot of personal stuff,
and like you know, you think so,yeah, like I feel like you're,
you know you're the people thatyou take care of.
Like you take care of a lot ofpeople, and I think it's really

(16:04):
easy for you to kind of getconsumed by what you're doing
for them, that you kind offorget to take care of yourself,
you know.
So I could definitely see thatin regards to like you right now
.
But I think that's amazing,like I think I'm, I think it's
amazing that you're kind ofrealizing that, hey, like you
know, I've kind of been takingcare of everybody else.

(16:24):
Now it's my turn, now it's mytime to shine, you know, and I
love that for you.

Anthony (16:29):
I think that that's what I really need to find is
like I need to do more formyself, Like I sometimes I'll
like at the end of the day, I'lllook and I'm like, okay, I've,
I've done things for myself, butthen, on the other hand, it's
like the things that I've donefor myself aren't real things if
that makes sense, yeah, yeah,yeah.
Um, but I definitely think likeafter my grandma passed away I

(16:54):
kind of like went off the deepend a little bit.
I was very you know in my ownlittle world and my own
circumstances and I'm notblaming that by any means.

Nalee (17:03):
And that's okay.
That's a big thing.
Yeah, it was.

Anthony (17:06):
Um, I my listeners don't know, but like my
grandmother raised me since Iwas five days old.
Yeah, so she was it.
She was like the biggest personin my life, yeah, um.
So I think the loss of her andthe circumstances around that
really did some damage and Istarted to find myself after

(17:29):
that.
You know, it took a couple ofyears and then I don't know what
happened All of a sudden.
It was just like then I justtook a nosedive and I was just
like not myself and I changed somuch.
And you know, sometimes I'lllook back at like some pictures
and I'm like that I like I missthe old me.
Yeah, I miss the person that Iused to be.

(17:49):
And so I'm trying to notnecessarily get that back,
because I don't want to live inthat time capsule of myself, but
I want to get back to a pointwhere I can confidently like
look at pictures of myself andbe like, yeah, that person is

(18:10):
like genuinely happy.

Nalee (18:11):
Okay, so you want an evolved version of who you were
before?
Yeah, okay, yeah, I love that.

Anthony (18:17):
So I think right now I'm just like, I'm like the
caterpillar in a cocoon and I'mjust waiting to.

Nalee (18:23):
Bloom like a beautiful butterfly.
Yes, I love that.
Yeah, I think, um, that alsocomes to say that I feel like
you know when people aresurrounded especially by, like
elder people and when you'retaking care of them, like that's
no easy feat.
Like, um, I think we couldrelate on that and the part of
like my grandpa also.

(18:43):
Like grandpa, my grandma.
She passed away recently too,when, like, we kind of started
to get to know each other.
So I think we had a lot of thatin common and she also took care
of me too when I was small,Like she helped my mom take care
of me too.
So like losing her definitelylike played a big role too as of

(19:06):
who I am today, and I coulddefinitely relate into that.
Like you know, when you don'thave that person in your life
and they've been there for youlike every day of your life,
it's really hard for you to justkind of navigate.

Anthony (19:15):
Right, and I think one of the difficult things was that
it was like she was my biggestchampion, like my biggest
supporter, you know, and so nowit's like not saying that I
don't have anybody in my corner,baby you got me.
No, I know I got you.
I have people in my life, butit's like.

Nalee (19:35):
It's not the same.

Anthony (19:35):
It's realizing that the one person that you still want
yeah, isn't you know?

Nalee (19:40):
Isn't there?
I get it, but you know what?
She's smiling down on you.
She's blessing you, girl.
She is boo, I'm saying girl youare.
I'll forgive you this time yeahbut no, but you're right, I know
she's looking down on you andshe's right beside you.
Like, as hard as it is tobelieve, like I really truly

(20:03):
believe that, like um, people,who, who you think about, they
appear before you I believe it,I believe that you know so yeah,
but damn, we got deep we gotdeep, I'm sorry all right.
So we go, we go, we go.
Ask the next question herewhat's your biggest pet peeve?
Switch directions here biggestpet peeve.

Anthony (20:25):
Oh god, directions here .
Biggest pet peeve, god.
I have so many pet peeves, it'stwofold.
So chewing with your mouth open, okay, or loud chewers.

Nalee (20:37):
Oh hey, you and me are really best friends.
He hates it when I chew too.
As he walks by in his robe.
Yeah, he's always like, can youchew any louder?
Oh, it drives me nuts I don'tknow, but sometimes I do it on
purpose though.
So um for me, I don't know.
I don't have a lot of pet peeves, oh, oh yeah, see, there it is
light bulb yeah, y'all's gonnahate me because I hate myself

(21:02):
too, but my biggest pet peeve isyeah, um, I don't know, it's
really hard to get me annoyed,though, I feel like, because I'm
already so annoying that it'shard to find somebody to top me.

Anthony (21:18):
So I guess when I find somebody who tops my
annoyingness, maybe them um well, next one what is your love
language, and does it match howyou show love?

Nalee (21:30):
that's a.
That's a very tricky question.
I feel like just me personally,the way that I show love, um, I
should be wanting the kind oflove that I show, but knowing me
like the love that I give isprobably not how I I show love.

(21:52):
I don't know if like, if thatmakes sense, like, does that
make sense?
Okay, you want me to elaborateon?

Anthony (21:59):
that Can you elaborate a little bit more?

Nalee (22:01):
For example, for me, like I'm a person who, like I, do go
above and beyond for the peopleI love, but sometimes it's not
reciprocated.
So I want to be able to findpeople, or find people who show
me love the way I show love, butnot everybody's the same.
Again, it comes to my earliersaying.

(22:24):
Is that, like you know, Iexpect people to be like me, but
I should know that everybody'sdifferent.
You know, everybody shows lovedifferent, everybody's been
loved different and it reallydepends on that.
Like, yeah, it really dependson, like I don't know.

Anthony (22:42):
I think that that's part of the like.
It's like one of the world'smysteries is even though it's
not really a mystery, but, likeyou're right, everybody has a
different type of love language,and I think what we all forget
when we're in a relationship orwhen we have those friendships
with people that we love, isthat we forget to take into
consideration how, what theother person's love language is

(23:05):
yeah so like if I know that yourlove language was, you know,
like touchy, feely affection.
If I, if I were your spouse orsomebody I would need to keep in
mind, like, okay, this is whatnollie needs, this is what
nollie wants, this is what Ineed to give her.
But I think that that's what welose because we get so wrapped

(23:26):
up in this is my love languageand this is how I do things.

Nalee (23:32):
Yeah, and the only reason why I say that is I'm not
saying that my partner doesn'tlove me like how I want to be
loved.
It's more of like how he showsit is also different, you know,
like it depends on how he beloved.
It's more of like how he showsit is also different, you know,
like it depends on how he'sloved and however he's loved.
Some people just can't help butproject that.

(23:52):
You know what I mean.
So like I don't know what, butanyways, I'm just saying like in
general, my love language islike maybe I went into deep into
it, but my love language istime.
Like if I'm giving you the timeof the day, that shows me that

(24:13):
shit, that should show you thatI love you because a thousand
percent I'd rather be sleeping,I'd rather be sleeping.
But if I'm giving you the timeof the day, like that's me
showing to you that, hey, I wantto, I want to be with you, I
want to spend time with you, andthen a little bit like maybe 25
food 25 yeah, 25, but yeah,that's that's how I show my love

(24:40):
language, um, or that's, Iguess that's that's how I um,
that's how you show you, that'show I show

Anthony (24:49):
you're gonna try and rephrase that.
No, that's okay what about you?

Nalee (24:53):
what's your love language , and does it match how you show
love?

Anthony (24:56):
I don't even think I answered the question, but I
think you did okay, I think youdid um, and as far as my love
language goes, I am more of likean affectionate person.
So like I need that human touchand that time, oh, oh, yes.

Nalee (25:12):
Okay.

Anthony (25:13):
That kind of human touch.

Nalee (25:14):
Okay, no, I'm just kidding.

Anthony (25:16):
No, but I need the human touch, I need the time
together and I really likethoughtfulness, so like little
surprise things like that.
One thing that I do that I knowI get shit for is like I don't
know and I don't know where thiscame from.
But I always have this tendencyto like I want to buy you
things, so like not no, sugardaddy, cause I ain't got that

(25:39):
much money.

Nalee (25:40):
You give me ideas over here.

Anthony (25:41):
But like I'm the type of person like, okay, I go to
fucking, I go to the grocerystore and I see a coffee mug
that just made me think of you,I'm going to get it.
I'm just like, yeah, so justlittle things like that.

Nalee (25:55):
I see that, though I definitely think that my love
language, that's definitely you.
Yeah, yeah, that's definitelyyou.
I think I show it.

Anthony (26:00):
Do you believe in second chances?
Why, or why not?

Nalee (26:03):
Ooh, second chances.
For me this is, I wouldn't sayit's necessarily a gray area,
but it's a hard question.

Anthony (26:15):
Gray area.

Nalee (26:16):
Yeah, because.

Anthony (26:20):
It's like I get PTSD every time you say it.

Nalee (26:22):
That's my catchphrase it's a gray area, oh.

Anthony (26:25):
God.

Nalee (26:26):
I'm just kidding.
But for me, the reason why Isay yes and no because I can't
be hypocritical to obviouslygiving other people second
chances, because I've been givena second chance.
So yes to that, so yes to that.
But what I would say no to is Iguess it wouldn't really be

(26:47):
considered a second chance ifthey'd done it more than once or
more than three times.
So I don't know.
Overall, yes, I would considergiving a second chance, but I'd
definitely be more cautious.

Anthony (27:03):
That's all, you get Two chances.
It's like the saying fool meonce, shame on you, fool me
twice, shame on me.

Nalee (27:09):
Yeah, I love that singing .
I always say it to my sister,yeah, and then fool me a third
time.
Then you're fucking stupid.

Anthony (27:15):
I won't allow it to get to a third time.

Nalee (27:17):
Oh, really, yeah, I'm the dumb bitch If I I am like that,
like I don't really give.
I don't give second chanceseither.
I'm a, I'm a first time.
Okay, I see where where yourpriority is Second time Cut,
done Cut the cord.
Yeah.

Anthony (27:37):
Cut the umbilical cord.

Nalee (27:38):
Baby's coming out Bye.
I thought the same thing.

Anthony (27:42):
Twin tangents yeah.

Nalee (27:43):
I saw a baby coming out.
Cut the umbilical cord, allright, what's one?

Anthony (27:50):
fear you've overcome, that's a good one.
A fear that I've overcome, Iwouldn't necessarily say that
I've I think public speakingOkay.
I think I've.
I don't know if I wouldnecessarily say that I've
overcome it, because I still getlike the butterflies and I get
anxious about it.
Okay, but I've learnedtechniques to better help myself

(28:13):
to be able to do that.

Nalee (28:15):
Do you imagine people naked?
Yeah, you really do Well intheir underwear, really.
Yeah, I can't do that.

Anthony (28:20):
I'll, normally and depending on the circumstances,
if it's like, if it's obviously,if it's work related, I can't
do that.
I'll, normally and depending onthe circumstances, if it's like
, if it's obviously, if it'swork related, I can't do this.
But like I would do a shot ifit's working.
You're imagining the ceo in hisunderwear one, every everybody
wears underwear, you gotta dowhat you gotta do everybody has
a body underneath their clothesthat was a weird laugh, but yeah

(28:41):
I did a weird, I did a weird, Idid a weird.
Not as weird as the other oneyou did.

Nalee (28:48):
Oh.

Anthony (28:51):
But yeah, I think that that like picture them in their
underwear.

Nalee (28:54):
Okay.

Anthony (28:55):
A shot if it's not like a you know professional thing.
Okay, I do do box breathing.
I've started doing that.
What the hell is that?
So you count to four, youinhale, count to four, hold for
four, exhale for four, count tofour, inhale and count.

Nalee (29:17):
So are you doing public speaking right now?

Anthony (29:19):
Yes, you wanted an example.

Nalee (29:23):
I think box breathing helps, because I think it
regulates your nervous system.
Oh, okay.

Anthony (29:30):
What about you?

Nalee (29:34):
I think it's not something.
It's not really a fear, but Ithink it's more of like a mental
thing that I've overcome caringabout what other people think
about me.
So I feel like yeah, I feellike it's not very it's not very
much a fear, it's just a mentalthing that like um, just not

(30:00):
really caring about what otherpeople think about me.
That did not make sense.
What other people think aboutme?
I did not make sense.
What other people think about?

Anthony (30:06):
me.
I mean, I understood what youwere saying.

Nalee (30:09):
But because, like I think , obviously when you're a kid up
to like high school, you getvery wrapped up in like how
people think about you, whatpeople think about how you look,
because you know, growing uplike I've always been a thick
girl, like I've always been plussize Really yeah, I've always
been plus size.

Anthony (30:27):
Oh, but excuse me, Well , I feel like you showed me a
couple pictures of like you andme when you were younger and I
didn't.
I wouldn't have described youas plus size.

Nalee (30:35):
Oh well, I'm mid-size to plus size, but like I've always
been on the thicker side, Iwould say, compared to like a
lot of my friends and stuff likethat.
So I've always been veryself-conscious of myself and

(30:57):
obviously I still do itsometimes, but then I try not to
let that get into.
I'm pretty much like my.
I battle with myself a lotwhere I'm like oh, like what are
they going to think about you?
Or like they're going to thinkyou're fat because they're all
skinny.
So I think that's one big thingthat I've overcome.
The thing is, and to anybodyout there who's kind of like

(31:17):
doing the same thing or isexperiencing the same thing,
what I've come to realize is, ifthey like you for who you are,
however you look, whatever youdo, shouldn't matter.
Like it's a saying of go ahead,no go ahead.
Oh, it's a saying of like thosewho matter don't mind, and
those who mind don't matter.

Anthony (31:37):
Oh, I like that.

Nalee (31:38):
Yeah, that's my, that's my getting over my shallowness.

Anthony (31:44):
I feel like a lot of people struggle with that, so
you're not alone.

Nalee (31:47):
Thank you.
What's a dream that you'restill chasing?
It's not going to be a dream,but I want to make it a reality,
so I'm manifesting it that I'mgoing to be rich.
I'm going to win that lottery.
We're going to win that lottery.
We are going to win thatlottery.
We're going to be rich, I'mgoing to win that lottery.
We're going to win that lottery.

(32:07):
We are going to win thatlottery.
We're going to become rich.

Anthony (32:09):
Oh, that reminds me I got to get tickets.
This week.

Nalee (32:12):
Yeah, I'm going to make that a reality.
I think I'm not saying that I'mthe luckiest person on earth,
but I am pretty blessed.
But I'm usually this type ofpeople where, like, if I set my
mind to it, it'll happen.
And so I'm setting my mind tobecoming rich, so it's going to

(32:32):
happen.
But yeah.

Anthony (32:33):
I love that for you.

Nalee (32:34):
Yeah, thank you, I love that for us.

Anthony (32:36):
I love that for us.
Yeah, and if you, you can doall the manifesting for us,
because I would appreciate that.
Of course I try, but I thinkthat you're more in tune with
that manifesting.

Nalee (32:47):
You think so yeah?

Anthony (32:53):
Well, I just started it , so we'll see where it goes.
Manifest it we're ready forthat.
We're ready for that monthie.

Nalee (32:57):
Yes, what about you?
What's a dream you're stillchasing?

Anthony (33:00):
you are still chasing, so I'm obviously with our
lottery pool.
I'm all for like being richokay, yes, but I think,
ultimately, my, my ultimatedream would be to be comfortable
financially.
Okay, to the point where youknow, come, come friday, when

(33:25):
I'm ready to clock out, if Ijust want to be like, you know
what I feel like driving to thecities and I'm gonna fly
someplace and just buy a ticketand go for the weekend, to just
be able to do that withouthaving to worry.

Nalee (33:37):
Yeah.

Anthony (33:37):
Well, am I going to be able to pay my bills this month?
Am I going to like, withouthaving to worry about that?
So I think to be financiallycomfortable, and my ultimate
dream as part of that would beto like have, like a beach
summer home or something, okay,beautiful.

Nalee (33:54):
I love that, like a second home or something.
Okay, beautiful, I love that.

Anthony (33:56):
Like a second home yeah .

Nalee (33:58):
I'm going to rephrase that, though, we're going to
become financially wealthy Notcomfortable, but wealthy.

Anthony (34:04):
Okay, I like that.
Yeah, I love that.

Nalee (34:06):
I love that for us.

Anthony (34:07):
I love that for us.
Yes.

Nalee (34:08):
Okay.

Anthony (34:10):
Okay.

Nalee (34:10):
All right.
What's one thing you wantpeople to feel when they listen
to this podcast?

Anthony (34:15):
So I can't pick one thing that I want people to feel
when they listen to thispodcast, so I'm just going to
pick the top three, I think Okay.
So the first I want people tobe able to relate to things that
we discuss or topics.

Nalee (34:27):
Okay, Two I want people to laugh.

Anthony (34:32):
Done.

Nalee (34:33):
Exactly Like I said.

Anthony (34:34):
if you don't laugh once during an episode.
You're the problem, and I'msticking by that.
Um, and the last thing is is Iwant them to at least once an
episode.
Just be like these fuckingidiots, um I'm gonna I'm sorry,
go ahead.

Nalee (34:52):
I don't cut you off, but yeah I also.

Anthony (34:53):
I don't want them to take this podcast serious.
I don't think that we're everwe ever had any intention to
make this a serious podcast.
We'll highlight and we'll, youknow, shed light on serious
topics, but the main purpose ofit, from my standpoint anyway,
is to have fun, to spend timewith you and like create those

(35:16):
memories and have laughs thatpeople can.
I think you said that one ofyour friends listened to our
first episode and they said itfelt like just sitting in the
living room with their friends.

Nalee (35:27):
Yeah, it was my sister-in-law.
Shout out to Anna or Juliana.
I love her, she's super sweet,but she said she was listening
to her podcast and she felt likeshe was just chilling with two
friends.

Anthony (35:41):
That's exactly what I want.

Nalee (35:43):
Okay, that's cute.

Anthony (35:45):
I love that.
I'm going to take a turn a darkturn.

Nalee (35:49):
I want people to hate us.
I'm just kidding For me,obviously I don't want people to
hate us, but I want people tokind of like, at least think
about, like, how they treatpeople.
Like, for example, like just torealize that there's a lot of

(36:10):
humility, you know, in peopleand it's okay to like be
vulnerable.
So that's number one for me.
Yeah, is to know that, hey,like there's other people like
me, like you said relating, andto know that, like there's
people who have a lot ofhumility and like sympathy.

Anthony (36:32):
Basic human decency.
Yeah, basic human decency, andI think that's something that we
need more of now, for sure, inthe world in general.

Nalee (36:40):
And number two is that to know that we're genuine people,
like you said earlier, like weare real people, and you pretty
much, like, said what I wantedto say already, so I'm pretty
much making it up as I go, but Ithink it's I mean, yeah, and

(37:02):
it's okay to repeat it again too, but so one yeah to relate to
is, you know, to have funlistening to our podcast, to
laugh, and you know we are yourfriends, we are your family, you
know we could relate to that weare a ho munity period.
Yes, y'all's are hoes now youare hoes yeah, welcome to the

(37:25):
club.

Anthony (37:25):
Welcome to the club, okay, um what's that, what's
that new saying in the club?
In the club we all fam yeah,yes, that's exactly what I was
going for.
Yeah.

Nalee (37:36):
And I don't know why I'm still like rambling on.
But now I have to say of athird one, because you said
three things.
You don't have to.
I know, but now it's like Ihave to think about it, like I
had one earlier, but you saidrelating, relating, and I'm like
damn, that's what I was goingto say, so my head kind of

(37:58):
tangent off of something else.
Oh, and for you guys tosubscribe and like our social
media.

Anthony (38:10):
Wow, we are thirsty for all of the follows I'm just
kidding and the likes.

Nalee (38:17):
No, my thing is two and three is just to laugh.
Like to laugh, I think, if youare in a dark place or like if
you are bored or whatever.
Like, just to laugh.
Like, I think a lot of people.
Yeah, like I think a lot ofpeople like I think a lot of
people like, even now, likethere's so many things going on

(38:38):
that you realize that you don'treally laugh.
You know, like, just in general, like people don't really laugh
anymore, they don't really havelike genuine conversation.
It's about like boys ordrinking or clubbing superficial
stuff, foodial stuff or food ormoney but.

Anthony (38:57):
I'll erase the money part yeah.

Nalee (39:02):
But yeah, just to laugh Like.

Anthony (39:05):
I think that through our tangents, through our
conversations and all of thedumb shit we might say or do I
think anybody who's listening atsome point will be able to pick
up a different perspective.

Nalee (39:22):
Yeah.

Anthony (39:22):
If they can relate to a certain situation and they
might be able to take somethingfrom it.

Nalee (39:27):
Yeah, I love that.
So yeah, that's pretty much it.
I don't know why I went on sucha long drag there, but um yeah
what do you wish?

Anthony (39:37):
that people would ask.
Let me rephrase that what doyou wish?
People asked you more often um,let's see.

Nalee (39:46):
So there's a common how are you doing?
There's a common like um whatyou've been up to, but one thing
I really wish people would askme is what can I do to donate
you some money?

Anthony (40:05):
Here's the perfect opportunity.
Do you want to pitch your Venmoand your Cash App?

Nalee (40:10):
I think not a lot of people askthis question, but are you
doing okay?

Anthony (40:16):
You took mine.
That's literally what I wasgoing to say.
Oh, really yeah, because peoplealways ask Twins.
It's one of those things Peopleask like how are you doing?
Yeah, but it's not what you'reasking, it's how you're asking
it.
So it's like people ask how areyou doing?
Just People ask how are youdoing?
Just expecting the.
Oh, I'm good, how are you yeah,but nobody ever genuinely asks.

Nalee (40:37):
Are you okay?

Anthony (40:38):
Are you okay?
How are you doing?
Yeah, look at us and I thinkpart of that is because we live
in such a fast-paced world we dothat.
It's like nobody really wantsto take the time to have a
serious conversation by knowingor asking how you're doing.

Nalee (40:52):
Yeah, and I feel like when people ask you how you're
doing, they just expect a shortanswer and you can't really
answer any longer than I'm good.
No, you can't be like oh my God, my life is ruined and I'm like
crying every day.
Like you can't answer it with ahow are you doing?

Anthony (41:09):
The typical answer is I'm good, Okay.

Nalee (41:12):
Meh.

Anthony (41:13):
Meh.

Nalee (41:14):
Yeah or silence.

Anthony (41:16):
Or silence.

Nalee (41:20):
Then you know something's wrong.

Anthony (41:21):
Hello darkness my old friend.
See, there's that beautifulsinging voice.

Nalee (41:25):
Hello darkness.

Anthony (41:26):
Spoke too soon, okay.
Okay, it's time for our rapidfire round.
We're talking instinct, notoverthinking.
Okay, it's time for our rapidfire round.
We're talking instinct, notoverthinking.
We'll throw out a few quickquestions and you just answer
the first thing that comes tomind for the other person.
Okay, so when I ask you aquestion, you're going to answer
it for me.

(41:47):
Okay, what my answer would be?
And?

Nalee (41:49):
vice versa, okay, okay, no explanations, no backtracking
, just fun vibes, okay, okay,okay.

Anthony (41:51):
No explanations, no backtracking, just fun vibes.
Okay, okay, okay, all right,you can start us off.

Nalee (41:59):
All right.
Do you think I'm messy ororganized?

Anthony (42:01):
Organized.

Nalee (42:02):
No, I'm messy.
Have you seen my kitchen?

Anthony (42:04):
Right now You've been cooking.
Okay, go-to comfort showSchitt's Creek, schitt's Creek.

Nalee (42:10):
Okay, morning Christian or Night Owl.

Anthony (42:13):
Night Owl Period Period .

Nalee (42:15):
What's the most used app on my phone?

Anthony (42:18):
TikTok.

Nalee (42:19):
No, it's not, Really it's actually my email.

Anthony (42:22):
Really.

Nalee (42:23):
Yeah, and Amazon.
Those are two on two.

Anthony (42:25):
Oh, my goodness.

Nalee (42:25):
Yeah.

Anthony (42:26):
Okay, dream, guest for the podcast.

Nalee (42:29):
Ooh, yeah, dan Levy.

Anthony (42:32):
Ooh, love it.
Okay, I would be happy withthat.

Nalee (42:35):
Yes.

Anthony (42:37):
Yes.

Nalee (42:37):
Okay, that was fun, all right.
So this one is kind of like aspicy or sweet thing where it's
kind of like a would you rather?
So, for example, my first onewould be would you rather
accidentally send a voicemail,trash talking someone, or
screenshot their DM and send itto them?

Anthony (42:56):
Okay, when you say screenshot their DM, so you mean
like if you texted me aboutsomebody else, I would
screenshot that and send that tothe person you were talking
about?
Yeah, ooh, um, I wouldscreenshot the DM and send it to
them.

Nalee (43:15):
Ooh, I do the opposite.

Anthony (43:17):
You'd send a voice memo .

Nalee (43:18):
Yeah, because people could easily screenshot that
again.
But voice memo, you coulddelete it and they can't get
track of that Ooh.

Anthony (43:24):
Period You're smart, I'm an investigator.
Detective oh.

Nalee (43:27):
God Certified detective CSI.
Baby, criminal minds baby.

Anthony (43:33):
Criminal minds.

Nalee (43:37):
That's where it's at yeah , I guess I never would have
thought about that.

Anthony (43:39):
You gotta be smart, yeah, quick like this mouth okay
, would you rather be the alwayslate friend or leaves without
saying goodbye friend?

Nalee (43:50):
um, I wouldn't get enough shit for being the always late
friend, so I'd rather be theleaves without saying bye,
friend.

Anthony (43:56):
I would rather be that friend as well.

Nalee (43:58):
Yeah, because a queen is never late, everybody is simply
early.

Anthony (44:06):
Okay, but in all fairness, I don't want to go to
a party and have to scourthrough everybody.
Where is so-and-so?
I've got to say bye, fuck thatI'm just going to leave.

Nalee (44:15):
I'll send you a text same sorry and side note on that.
Like if you go in a group likepeople get lost everywhere I
ain't gonna wait for you.
I'm an uber by all the time,yeah would you rather always get
called intimidating or too niceintimidating same Nice
Intimidating.
Same.
We cut throat here.

Anthony (44:37):
I feel like people who are like too nice.
They're easily taken advantageof.

Nalee (44:41):
Yeah, it's funny because I'm just thinking this in my
head we want to be intimidating,but we're the too nice people.

Anthony (44:50):
Isn't it ironic.
Do you want to sing the song?
What song?
Isn't it ironic?

Nalee (44:55):
I don't know that song.

Anthony (44:56):
Shut the front door.

Nalee (44:58):
Yeah, I don't know that song.

Anthony (44:59):
Oh my God, that's your homework assignment for tonight.

Nalee (45:02):
Okay.

Anthony (45:03):
Oh, my goodness.

Nalee (45:03):
Sounds good.

Anthony (45:05):
Okay, would you rather be caught fake laughing or fake
crying?

Nalee (45:11):
Fake laughing because I feel like a fake laugh.
I cannot fake a cry.
Mine is I lick my two fingersand then put it down my eyes and
go.
That's horrible.
Yeah, see, see, I'm not good atfake crying, but fake laughing.

Anthony (45:30):
So now I feel like you fake.
Laugh at a lot of the things Isay.

Nalee (45:33):
No, because I have a fake laugh.
If you know me well enough, youknow you fake laugh at a lot of
the things I say.
No, because I have a fake laugh, if you know me well enough,
you know my fake laugh.
Okay, would you rather spillyour group chat secrets or let
someone read your notes app outloud?

Anthony (45:47):
Read my notes app out loud.
Would you rather only be ableto post thirst traps or
inspirational quotes for a year?

Nalee (45:57):
oh, um, if I was in high school, probably the thirst trap
one, but, um, like in mycurrent life right now, maybe
inspirational ones.
Inspirational ones because Ifeel like I like spreading joy.
So that's not so like cliche,but I do.

(46:21):
I like spreading joy, I likemaking people laugh and making
them feel good about themselves.

Anthony (46:27):
You are sunny Like you're a sunshiny type of person
when you've gotten enough sleep.

Nalee (46:32):
Yeah, I'm a bitch when I don't sleep.
Yeah, yeah, I'm a bitch when Idon't sleep.
Yeah, would you rather haveyour phone on loud in a silent
room or have it read your textout loud on speaker?

Anthony (46:47):
I would rather have my phone on loud in a silent room,
just because I can't controlwhat people are texting me.

Nalee (46:54):
Yeah.

Anthony (46:55):
The last thing I need is to be in the middle of a
funeral and some inappropriatetext comes through.
Hey, take a look at this babyarm or something like that.

Nalee (47:10):
This baby arm.
Yeah, jesse Williams, rememberthat photo.

Anthony (47:13):
Oh yeah.

Nalee (47:15):
That's it For me.
It'd be my phone in a silentroom.
Yeah yeah, jesse Williams,remember that photo.
Oh yeah, that's it For me.
It'd be my phone in a silentroom.

Anthony (47:19):
Yeah.

Nalee (47:20):
For sure.

Anthony (47:21):
Would you rather be the last to know or the first to
spill in the group?

Nalee (47:25):
chat.
Ooh, I would say first to spill.
I hate being the last oneknowing things.

Anthony (47:34):
I feel like I'm used to being the last one to know
things.

Nalee (47:36):
Really?
Yeah, I feel like that's nottrue.

Anthony (47:39):
You don't?
No, I feel like I'm always thelast to know certain things.
I don't think so, oh.
I like to know things rightaway, so I mean, I would prefer
to know things right away.

Nalee (47:51):
Would you rather be the can't take a joke one, or the
never knows when to stop one?

Anthony (47:58):
Never know when to stop .

Nalee (48:00):
Yeah, that's already me.
Yeah, I think that's me too,yeah.

Anthony (48:04):
Because I always push it to the max.

Nalee (48:06):
Yeah, I do, yeah, yeah.
That's when people start hatingus.

Anthony (48:11):
They're the problem, it's okay.
Okay, my last one.
Would you rather be caughtpracticing your resignation
speech or using your fake, sickvoice?

Nalee (48:23):
Ooh, I don't really have a good sick voice.
I'm really really nasally, so Idon't call in a lot.

Anthony (48:31):
So I didn't realize I needed my wers on jesus um, I
would say practicing myresignation speech really yeah,
because bitches don't quit, wejust leave, we just leave.

Nalee (48:48):
Yeah, the queen is out of the building.

Anthony (48:50):
The eagle is not landing um, for me it would be
using my fake sick voice,because I don't really need to
practice it.
I have my fake sick voice down.
Oh.

Nalee (48:58):
I want to hear it.
Let's see.

Anthony (48:59):
And I can easily.
And so then, if I got caughtpracticing quote unquote,
practicing my fake sick voice, Iwould just continue the lie so
that I can leave home that day.

Nalee (49:13):
Oh gotcha.
Okay, that was really fun, sickvoice, sick voice for the win.
Okay, okay, okay.
So the next thing is a revealyour ranking.
So I'm going to give you like atop three things and then you
just list it out for me withoutthinking so.
For example, my first thingwould be top three things that

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instantly put you in a bad mood.

Anthony (49:37):
Waking up late Okay.
Minor inconveniences really putme in a bad mood, like what you
stub your toe or something Stubmy toe, or like if I'm like
running late for work and I'mtrying to get there so I can
clock in, and it's like I'mfumbling around, I'm dropping
shit.
I'm like, get there so I canclock in, and it's like I'm
fumbling around, I'm droppingshit.
I'm like, ah, seriously, can'tI just have one good day where?

Nalee (49:59):
nothing bad happens.
That's a Jim Carrey movie rightthere.

Anthony (50:04):
Yeah, that's exactly what I mean.
Yeah and ooh.
A third thing that puts me in abad mood, Craving something
that I don't have theingredients to make, or like if
the restaurant is closed.

Nalee (50:22):
Ooh, that's a good one, so like.

Anthony (50:24):
I went to go meet a friend of mine for Mancino's.
Oh, mancino's is the best.
Yeah, who the fuck closes on aTuesday.
They were closed.
We got there.
Yeah, but we got.
We went there on a Tuesday.
They were closed, we got there,yeah, but we got.
We went there on a Tuesday, oh,and at first I didn't think
anything of it.
I was like God, nobody's eatinghere today.

Nalee (50:45):
Are we the only badasses?

Anthony (50:46):
I walk up to the other.
Closed.
Okay, so for you, the top threethings that you irrationally
judge people for.

Nalee (50:55):
Ooh, that's.

Anthony (50:57):
that's a good question Um try not to be too bitchy.

Nalee (51:00):
Yeah, I'll try not to be too bitchy or judgy Well that's
a question, literally thequestion, but um, my first one
would be like moist or oily hair?
Mama's gonna judge you.

Anthony (51:13):
Yeah, I don't like oily hair.

Nalee (51:14):
Yeah.

Anthony (51:18):
Um, you know what's sad is like when you see oily hair
it's almost like you can smellit.
Yeah, I mean I, I can't like ittakes five minutes, I know, but
I do.

Nalee (51:28):
I know there's some people who, like their hair is
really thin, so it's really easyfor their their hair to get
oily, so I know there's that.
But it's 2025, there's productsI know, but that's why I'm
saying the but is that like yeah, I will judge you.
I will instantly judge you ifyou go to like um a place, let's
just say like a family placeand okay, what do you mean by

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family place like a restaurant,not a family place, like if
you're going to uh, like, let'sjust say, if you go out to like
a restaurant, right, like yousaid.
But then, like you know thatyour kids may be untamed, or
like they're very bad in public,and you bring all 10 of them
and they're just constantlyscreaming Like I'm not going to

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hate you for it, but I willjudge you If you know that your
kids can't be out in publicbecause they will be a doof.
Bye, a doof.
I don't know what a doof is.

Anthony (52:21):
We're going to coin that term.

Nalee (52:22):
Yeah, not Lee's vocab 101 , a doof You're preaching.
Yeah, that's crazy to me.
Again, I have nothing againstkids, I love kids.
I have nothing against kids, Ilove kids.
I have nothing against moms,dads.
But if you know your childrencan't behave in public, leave
them the fuck home, get it to go.
Like don't bring all 10 of themso that you know cause the

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thing is.
It's it's.
It's like it amplifies, likeyour child is screaming and then
you're yelling at them, andwhen you're yelling, you're not
quiet.
When your child's screaming,it's not quiet, so it's like
loud and then loud.

Anthony (52:58):
So it's my voice times 10, which is a lot and it's just
ruining the ambiance.
It's ruining like so if I goout to eat and I get sat next in
the booth the next booth tolittle Jim and Jill who have 10
kids and they're screaming atthe top of their lungs.
This is supposed to be my nightout and now my night is like

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being affected because you can'tcontrol your children.

Nalee (53:23):
And then I guess I do have three, and I'm sorry it
involves kids again, but likeand you said you love kids.

Anthony (53:30):
I do love kids.
Remember that I do love kids.

Nalee (53:32):
I love my nephews and my nieces.
They're like my babies.
But like let's just say, forexample, like when you go to
like a public event, like whenyou go to like a basketball game
or a concert and a kid sitsbehind you and they're fucking
constantly kicking on your chairand the parent doesn't say
anything.
That will piss me off.

Anthony (53:53):
Worst place, an airplane.

Nalee (53:55):
Oh, yes, yeah that gets me heated.
Yeah, like I'm just like this.
One time I went to I think itwas Ed Sheeran's concert and
there was a kid that was sittingbehind me and then the dad or
the mom I think it was the momthat was sitting behind with him
, like he was constantly kickingmy chair and I was just like

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I'm sorry, can you not do that,because you're fucking kicking
my hair?
Like I have long hair and likeI'm not going to constantly hold
my fucking hair while I'mtrying to enjoy the concert.

Anthony (54:24):
How old was this kid?

Nalee (54:26):
He was like probably 10.
But he was like maybe 8, 9, 10,around that age range, but like
he was really whiny.
First of all and second of all,why are you taking a kid to
like an ed sheeran concert?

Anthony (54:38):
that was my first thought I'm like so you have an
eight, nine, ten year old at aned sheeran concert yeah, I mean,
I love ed sheeran.

Nalee (54:46):
I get it like other people love ed sheeran too, but
like leave your kids at home?

Anthony (54:49):
yeah, do you think your kid loves?

Nalee (54:50):
yeah and that.
And they were like like again,I'm not judging anybody, you're
there to have fun, but she wasdrinking, so she didn't give a
shit about him.
So then I was literally to thepoint where I'm like, can you
fucking tell your child to stopkicking my fucking chair Because
it's pulling'd come back, andthen she'd sit next to me.
And so they do that vice versaso that in itself is fucking
annoying, because you're doingso much that it's hard for me to

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concentrate again first.
This is also a first worldproblem, but like that's what
the question asked, so it don'tpiss me the fuck off Insert hair
flip.
Okay, yeah, anyways.
My next one is top three thingsyou do when no one is watching.

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I purposely wanted to ask youthis question, oh, my gosh.
Sorry, I'm like sick, so I'mlike sniffing.

Anthony (55:50):
You're sick.

Nalee (55:51):
Not sick.
No, I'm going to get sick.
I meant allergies.
Allergies, I know.

Anthony (55:56):
I don't know.
Talk to myself.

Nalee (55:59):
Everybody does that.

Anthony (56:01):
I don't have anything salacious or juicy to answer
that question.
So top three things that I dowhen nobody's watching would
probably be talk to myself.
I don't think that there'sanything that I'm going to do
special when nobody's watching.
Like, what were you expectingme to say?

Nalee (56:18):
I bet I know one thing you do do when nobody's watching
you.
And I know for a fact that youdo it.
Because I do it too, I twerk toa good song.

Anthony (56:29):
I'll do that when people are watching.

Nalee (56:30):
Oh, I guess Never mind, I don't do it when people are
watching.
I'm shy.
Oh, I don Never mind, I don'tdo it when people is watching.
I'm shy.
Oh, I don't give a shit.
I mean I've seen you bob yourhead, but like I don't mean like
just like a boop, boop torque,it's like a bam chicka, bam, bam
torque, like you was gettingdown Kind of torque, okay.

Anthony (56:49):
Yeah, you're right, I would have like a dance party.

Nalee (56:56):
Yeah, have like a dance party.
Yeah, yeah, for myself.

Anthony (56:57):
Yeah, yeah, that sounds kind of sad in my head now that
I think of it for me, but Idon't feel like.
I feel like the question'sfalling flat just because for me
, because the things that Iwould do when nobody's watching
are things that I would do whenthey are watching oh okay, yeah,
so I think my answers would beI would have a private dance
party, okay um I think myanswers would be I would have a

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private dance party.
Okay, talk to myself.
Yeah, I don't know if I can comeup with three, because Okay,
that's a good one.

Nalee (57:33):
I stumped you.

Anthony (57:34):
Yeah, I'm sorry I don't have a good answer for that
because was a good.

Nalee (57:38):
Those are two good answers.

Anthony (57:40):
I feel like that suffices for me okay, I feel
satisfied with those two answersI mean, if I've satisfied you,
then we can move on always um,okay, so top three things that
would be in your emotionalsupport bag.

Nalee (57:56):
Huh, you, if I could shrink you down and put you in
my little bag.

Anthony (58:01):
You don't need to shrink me down, I can fit,
you'll come along.
Yeah, I can fold myself up intomost carry-on containers.

Nalee (58:09):
Oh, use flexi-bell.
Yes, ma'am, okay, enchanté.
Yes, ma'am, okay, enchanté.
Um, um, for me it would be um,it sounds really stupid.
But maybe a shirt that smellslike bee, because I'm like, I'm
a smell person, that's cute.
Yeah, I'm a smell person.
Like it sounds really stupid,but like um bee works like

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second shift, but when he comeshome I'm already asleep.
So then sometimes, when I can'tfall asleep, I'd go wash my
hands with his like shampoo orhis soap, and then I just smell
it when I go to sleep.

Anthony (58:46):
Aww.

Nalee (58:47):
Yeah, so there you go.
Yeah, I do that.
It sounds kind of weird, yeah.

Anthony (58:52):
I'm just kidding.

Nalee (58:53):
No, it is.
No, it is.
That's cute.
Sometimes B's like why do yousmell like my shampoo?
I'm like why do you think Ismell like your shampoo?

Anthony (59:00):
I did that when my grandma passed away.
I had her bottle of perfume andI like sprayed it on her
sweater.

Nalee (59:06):
Oh, I love that I still have that hanging in my closet
right now.
Do you?

Anthony (59:10):
Her sweater and her scarf that she would wear in the
winter.

Nalee (59:13):
That wasn't my allergy sniffles, that was an actual
sniffle.
Oh Damn, that's deep.

Anthony (59:20):
Okay, so that's one thing.

Nalee (59:21):
Yes, that's one thing.
The other thing would be aphoto of my family, like of my
mom, my dad, my siblings.
Okay, and then my phone, yeah,which contains the photos of my
phone.
Yeah, which contains the photosof my family.
Yeah, we can't hold them.

Anthony (59:40):
So technically you could, that's true.

Nalee (59:42):
Okay, I'll add one more to that.
I'll bring my phone that hasthe photos of my family.
And then the third thing wouldbe a pen and like a two-in-one,
a two-in-one journal with apencil.
Yeah, because I like to doodleor write letters to myself and

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stuff like that.

Anthony (01:00:03):
You write letters to yourself.

Nalee (01:00:04):
Sometimes yeah, that's so cute I write today you've been
a fat bitch.
Stop being a fat bitch.
From Nali.
Stop being a fat bitch, andthen I draw a little doodle of
my fatness on it, put it in anenvelope and then read it 10
years later.

Anthony (01:00:20):
Do you really Sometimes ?

Nalee (01:00:21):
yeah, oh, that's funny yeah.
I like that though, or like Iwould do it for my weight, like
I'd be like today.
You're like nine pounds Threeounces God willing.

Anthony (01:00:33):
Yeah, your mouth to God's ears, honey.

Nalee (01:00:37):
Yeah, I do that sometimes , or just kind of do like a
reality check for myself, Likehey, you've gone through this,
hopefully you've gotten out ofit in the next like two years.
Good for you, thank you.

Anthony (01:00:49):
Like I never believed in it until I did that and I
experienced that and I was likeokay, okay, this is a real thing
.
So anybody who needs to likelet go of any sort of demons or
anything, or just write a letterto whoever you don't even have
to send it if you don't want ityeah like I noticed that too.

Nalee (01:01:07):
Like you can just write it, stick in an envelope, mail
it to yourself for crying outloud yeah, I just keep mine in a
box like um, I've like in thepast obviously I've gone through
some like very dark things butlike, for me it's more of like a
um I forgot what the word forit is, but it's just kind of

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like a reflection of like hey,like you've gone through this
and you came out the other sideyeah, and this is what you're
currently going through.
So check back into two years tosee if it's still something
you're going through, yeah, andif it's not, then you've made it
past the darkest or the deepestor the lowest.
You've been Kind of a thingRight.

(01:01:49):
So it's kind of like aself-reflection letter.
That's good.
I like that, I love that foryou, thank you.

Anthony (01:02:00):
But yeah, a two-in-one planner with a pencil or pen.
Okay, yeah, okay.

Nalee (01:02:03):
All right, my last one is top three things that would be
on your personal warning label.
Ooh, I can think of five.

Anthony (01:02:15):
I only need three For you, not me oh, for me my
personal warning label, so blunt, okay, honest oh, I thought you
meant blunt, as in like weed,but no, blunt like straight into
the point.

Nalee (01:02:35):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Anthony (01:02:36):
Honest.

Nalee (01:02:38):
Isn't blunt and honest the same thing?

Anthony (01:02:41):
Are they?

Nalee (01:02:42):
I don't think so Kind of Because you have to be blunt, to
be honest, I don't know.
Well, okay, blunt and honest,sorry.

Anthony (01:02:51):
Okay, let me start over .
Okay, okay, bluntly honest.

Nalee (01:02:58):
Bluntly honest, bluntly hyphen honest.
One word, we've made it oneword it's a hyphenate.

Anthony (01:03:05):
Yeah, genuine.

Nalee (01:03:09):
Love that.

Anthony (01:03:11):
Sarcastic.
I think I'm very sarcastic andI think that a lot of people
don't like it.
I feel like some people.
I feel like a lot of peoplewhen I use my sarcasm.
They don't know.
Or they're not picking up on itbecause I think sometimes my
sarcasm is so dry.

Nalee (01:03:29):
I think the reason why I understand you, though I get
your jokes, is because B'sexactly like that.
He has very dry humor the otherday, like he said something to
me and he's just like if youdon't know by now that
everything I talk about is insarcasm, then I can't help you
and I'm like oh sorry, amen Iagree with that, but I'm very
sarcastic too, though.

Anthony (01:03:50):
So, yeah, I get it.

Nalee (01:03:52):
I love sarcasm Same.

Anthony (01:03:54):
I think it's like one of my foundational cornerstones
of my life.

Nalee (01:03:59):
Because I feel like sarcasm is kind of like an
inside joke, like if you get it,you get it, if you don't, you
don't, yeah, and I love that.

Anthony (01:04:07):
And I tend to like get along better with people who get
it.

Nalee (01:04:12):
Yeah, I mean sometimes I don't understand your sarcasm
just because I like don'tunderstand the joke, or like you
joke about something that it'sout of my time, because I'm old.
Yeah, I wanted you to bringthat up specifically.
Yeah, that's it.

Anthony (01:04:28):
I'll be the one to say it.

Nalee (01:04:29):
She calls me grandpa yeah .

Anthony (01:04:32):
Okay, yeah, do you know off the top of your head,
because now my interest ispeaked.

Nalee (01:04:40):
Is there a certain thing that you can recall that you
didn't get?
I think one of the things thatused to say to me always was
what's that?
One phrase, something smalls,you're killing me, smalls.
Oh, you're killing me, smallss.
Yeah, I don't know what thatwas from and I'm like I don't
get it.
And then you told me that itwas like from a movie or
something the Sandlot.
Yes, the Sandlot, and I'm like,oh, I've seen the Sandlot, but

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like when I was like two, so Ihave no memory of it.
But that's only because Ididn't get it.

Anthony (01:05:10):
But if I did get it, yeah, and that's fair, because
you are young.
You're right, you were probably.
How old were you when thatmovie came out?

Nalee (01:05:17):
I was a cell.
A cell.
I was probably attaching myselfto my dad's.

Anthony (01:05:26):
It came out April 7th of 1993.

Nalee (01:05:29):
Yeah, I was literally a bebe.

Anthony (01:05:31):
So yeah, you were literally a bebe.

Nalee (01:05:33):
Yeah.

Anthony (01:05:34):
Okay so top three fake scenarios you daydream about
regularly.

Nalee (01:05:41):
Mama, may I?
Okay, so first one is I wouldeat without getting skinny.
Is that considered a?

Anthony (01:05:49):
Wait what.

Nalee (01:05:50):
You would eat without getting skinny, you mean without
getting fat.
Yeah, that would be my fuckingcurse.
Oh my God.
No, I meant let me rephrasethat, god above, if you're
listening I want to be able toeat without getting fat or
gaining weight.
Is that considered a fakescenario?

(01:06:11):
That's not fake.
It's going to come true, nevermind, but currently, right now.
No, I think that would beconsidered a fake scenario.
That's not fake.
It's going to come true, nevermind, but currently, right now.

Anthony (01:06:17):
No, I think that would be considered a fake scenario.
Okay, because?
You're daydreaming about it.
You can daydream about anythingLike flying in the sky.

Nalee (01:06:25):
Oh, that's a good one.
Another one would be to have avisibility cloak so that when
people do things I could hide.
I'm not a voyeur.
Voyeur, Voyeur, Voyeur.
I'm not that, Nothing sexual,but like I want to like.

(01:06:47):
If I was to, like, go and rob abank, nobody would see me like
that.
I'm not a criminal, I'm justsaying these are fake scenarios.
Oh wait, Actually, never mind.
A fake scenario would be I'dblink and then I'd have a lot of
money in my account.

Anthony (01:07:06):
That would be nice.

Nalee (01:07:06):
Yeah, or another one would be time traveling.
I would love to time travel.
Yeah, I would love to timetravel to different parts of my
life, or different parts of b'slife.
Like I'd want to see what hedid what I mean, what he did

(01:07:27):
like what he's gone through.
Okay, this next one is reallyfun.
I um, I do really like thisnext section or scenario that I
have for us, and I feel like alot of our listeners really
liked this kind of thing.
That's the only reason why Idid pick this too.
So it's a hypotheticallyspeaking kind of thing, so kind

(01:07:48):
of like a what would you do ifscenario scenario.
So my first one is if you couldswap lives with someone for one
day who are you picking andwhat's the first thing you're

(01:08:09):
doing For one day?

Anthony (01:08:16):
who would I swap lives with?
That's a good question, okay,this is probably against my
better judgment.
Okay, and this is just, I think, just to speed things along, I
think.

Nalee (01:08:33):
I would pick Taylor Swift Shocker, shocker.
I am shocked.
No, oh ooh, no, you know who Iwould pick Taylor Swift Shocker,
shocker.

Anthony (01:08:37):
I am shocked.
No, oh, ooh.
No, you know who I would do?
I would do Britney Spears.

Nalee (01:08:41):
Oh, Britney.

Anthony (01:08:42):
And the first thing that I would do is I would get
her help and I would work withher lawyer to solidify things
that are more in her interest.

Nalee (01:08:52):
I love that.

Anthony (01:08:53):
I was all for it, I almost cried oh, like I love
that I was all for.
I almost cried.
Like I feel bad for her and Ifeel like people give her a lot
of shit.

Nalee (01:09:03):
With her spinning and her knives.

Anthony (01:09:04):
You know people are like well, you wanted her out of
the conservatorship.
Yeah, I wanted her out of theconservatorship.
But like I'm a huge BritneySpears fan and I think that
could like I'm all for aconservatorship when it's not
benefiting the people around her.
Who?
Put her in the conservatorship.

Nalee (01:09:22):
Yeah, for sure.

Anthony (01:09:23):
So I think that there was a lot of wrongdoings with
that conservatorship, so Iwouldn't be opposed to her being
in a healthy conservatorship.

Nalee (01:09:33):
Yeah, that's a good one.
I love that one.
I'm also a really big BritneySpears fan too Obviously not as
big as you, that's what's up?
Yeah, that's what's up.

Anthony (01:09:45):
That's what's up.

Nalee (01:09:45):
We know nothing about nothing.

Anthony (01:09:48):
I don't know shit about .
No, fuck, yeah, I don't know,know nothing about nothing.

Nalee (01:09:51):
I don't know shit about.

Anthony (01:09:52):
No, fuck, yeah I don't know, I don't say it, right I?

Nalee (01:09:53):
don't know fuck about shit.
I don't know fuck about, I knowshit about fuck.

Anthony (01:09:55):
And okay, going back to my original answer, if taylor,
if it was taylor, swift if Iwere to be taylor swift for a
day, I would bring back the erastour because I personally want
to go to it.

Nalee (01:10:05):
I regret not going to it, oh okay, was it available when
you became one of her fans?

Anthony (01:10:10):
Yeah.

Nalee (01:10:12):
Like super side tangent.
What is your thought on?
Like videos where they take itof Taylor Swift and she has a
burger and she just swipes itlike that?

Anthony (01:10:21):
From the Aries tour.

Nalee (01:10:22):
Yeah, is that like an ick for you?

Anthony (01:10:28):
It's an ick from a standpoint of I don't like snot
and like that type of stuff.
But it's not really an ick forme for that, because have you
ever watched the Heiress Tour?

Nalee (01:10:41):
No.

Anthony (01:10:42):
Highly recommend it, and that's honestly Hand to God.
That's the only reason that Ibecame a Taylor Swift fan.
Oh, really yeah, like I likedsome of her music prior to that.
But after I watched, watched iton disney plus.
Okay, bitch, a three and a halfhour show, how many days a week
?
Yeah, no stopping.

(01:11:03):
I have to give her props forhow many shows that she did.

Nalee (01:11:07):
But I mean, as far as that clip goes that you're
referencing and wiping, she'soutside the the weather yeah and
she's performing and people ifpeople are choosing to give her
crap over a runny nose, fuck youokay, my thing is why couldn't
you just put towels on the sideof your stage if you know that

(01:11:27):
you're gonna be in the coldweather?

Anthony (01:11:31):
it could have been, I don't know, timing wise, but I
will hand it to her like,seriously, I highly recommend
watching it because it's okay.
I don't.
I don't think anybody's everdone a tour or a concert that
long, like three and a halfhours non-stop I feel like pink
has done that.
I love pink three and a halfhours nonstop.
I feel like.

Nalee (01:11:52):
Pink has done that.

Anthony (01:11:54):
I love Pink.
Three and a half hours.

Nalee (01:11:55):
Yeah, I love Pink.

Anthony (01:11:57):
We'll have to see, but I love her concert.

Nalee (01:11:58):
Oh yeah, because you saw Pink live?
Yeah, I went and saw Pink live.
Hers was for me like herconcert changed my life is all I
got to say.
Like I've never seen anybodyperform like her, I think after
Pink I'm just thinking.

Anthony (01:12:14):
Because she does all that aerial, all those aerial
stunts?
Yeah, didn't you see the one ofKaty Perry doing it?
Oh yeah.

Nalee (01:12:22):
I did.
That was horrible.
She was like slowly twirlingdown.
Yeah, that was bad.
I think Katy Perry is abeautiful person.
I just don't think she can singI don't think she can sing.

Anthony (01:12:32):
I don't think she's a good person.
I don't think she's.

Nalee (01:12:33):
I think she's fake oh that sometimes, yeah, I feel
like she could be fake, butanyways, when I go take this
away from pink, um, yeah, pinkis an amazing performer.
She sounds exactly like how shedoes in the studio, but like
her stage presence and her setsA1.
Like she has so much energy andwe got lucky, like the

(01:12:56):
performance, because me and mysister went to go see her in
Minneapolis because my sisterprobably loves Pink Like she's
been obsessed with Pink and Itold her that, oh, like she
finally went back on tourbecause I think she had like a
new album out and so then whenshe told me about it, I was like
, hey, I'll buy you a ticket,let's go see her.
And so then we went to go seepink and, like it literally

(01:13:19):
changed my life, because I thinkit was the first time I've ever
seen anybody who is like onstrings and she actually goes
out to the audience.

Anthony (01:13:29):
I saw that she hovers over the audience.

Nalee (01:13:32):
To me that is One.
She's obviously risking herlife to do that.
Obviously there's trainings andstuff, but anything can go
wrong at any time.
Secondly, I think at that timeshe had a knee injury or
something was wrong with herknee or her foot or whatever.
But then that was the lastperformance after she canceled

(01:13:54):
on her her tour oh, she canceledher door so we got real lucky,
like we were the last.
She was supposed to go to southdakota after minnesota,
minneapolis, so then she had toput like a I think she put like
a, an fyi kind of thing, rightafter the night of the concert
to say that she couldn't do itanymore and she had to cancel
her tour.
But I'm like I don't give afuck because I saw her.

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Yeah, that's it, point blankperiod.

Anthony (01:14:19):
I wish I liked going to concerts more.

Nalee (01:14:21):
I love concerts.

Anthony (01:14:22):
I don't like people enough to like like I get
anxiety when there's too manypeople.

Nalee (01:14:27):
Yeah.

Anthony (01:14:31):
Okay, so mine you can read minds for a day, but only
during awkward silences.
Are you still doing it?

Nalee (01:14:36):
Yes, I am.
Comes back to I'm a nosy bitch.
I don't give a fuck if it'sawkward or not.
I want to hear what you'rethinking.
If it's damn, I need to poopright now.
I want to hear it.

Anthony (01:14:47):
You do want to hear that.

Nalee (01:14:47):
I do it because in my head I'd be like, hi, you need
to go poop, but you can't gopoop.

Anthony (01:14:52):
Loser.
The way that you said that mademe think of like Peter Griffin.

Nalee (01:14:56):
Yeah.

Anthony (01:14:56):
That sounded like something he would say yeah.

Nalee (01:14:58):
I love Peter, you have to poop.
I love Peter Griffin.
He's so stupid.
I hate him too.

Anthony (01:15:04):
He is stupid yeah.
That's the kind of stupid thatwe aspire to be with this
podcast.

Nalee (01:15:07):
Yeah, peter Griffin's stupid.
Okay, my next one is you getthe power to mute one person in
real life who's on silent.

Anthony (01:15:22):
You dirty bitch.

Nalee (01:15:24):
Yeah, I know, I picked that one on purpose.

Anthony (01:15:26):
So now I have to intentionally pick somebody who
I know is not listening to thispodcast.
Yes, because I don't wantlistening to this podcast.
Yes, because I don't want tohurt any feelings.
My aunt what my aunt?
And this is.
I found a loophole in yourquestion.

Nalee (01:15:41):
Okay, so I'm going to pick my aunt because she doesn't
speak as it is.
Oh, okay.

Anthony (01:15:45):
So she's just quiet.
You dub bitch In general.
So this way nobody gets theirfeelings hurt.
Wow, quiet like you, dumb bitchin general.
So this way nobody gets theirfeelings hurt.
Wow, and she knows that she'squiet because we always give her
shit.
She doesn't like, she won'tengage and she won't actively be
the one to start conversations,okay, and so she's just really
quiet, unless spoken to.
Okay, and then like if I askher questions and try to have

(01:16:06):
that conversation, then she'llstart like talking a little bit
more, but even then it's likeshe'll say what she wants to say
and then she's done.

Nalee (01:16:14):
All right.
My next one is you get a callfrom future you, but they sound
shady.
What's the first question youask?

Anthony (01:16:24):
I'm the one calling myself and I sound shady.
Yeah, I probably ask what thefuture's like.

Nalee (01:16:30):
Oh.

Anthony (01:16:30):
If it's like a future me, I want to know, like what's
in store for my future.

Nalee (01:16:34):
Okay, like, do I get bigger?
Am I famous?
Am I rich?
Like that, yeah, is there aspecific question or just what's
the future like?

Anthony (01:16:41):
What is the future like for me?
Okay, like that encapsulateseverything.
What if he's like do I own myown house?
Where do I live?
You live in a car now.
You actually had an amputation,you're in a car accident.

Nalee (01:16:55):
You called nali for a voice note for like five,
reeling it back in.
Okay, I like that.
That's a good question.
Yeah, I think that's a goodquestion it just covers
everything so give me a briefsummary.

Anthony (01:17:07):
What?
What's my future?
Yeah, okay, so mine is.
You can change one universalsocial rule what is now legal
and normalized?

Nalee (01:17:17):
Okay, and what is a social rule for those who don't
know what it is?

Anthony (01:17:22):
Okay, so a social rule is also going to be known as a
social norm.
It's basically an unwrittenexpectation and guidelines that
dictate how people should behavein particular social settings.

Nalee (01:17:35):
I would say ooh Ooh.
I know you remember how wetalked on the first episode

(01:17:57):
about texting back and soundingdesperate.

Anthony (01:18:01):
Yes.

Nalee (01:18:03):
I want people to text immediately back when they're
texting.

Anthony (01:18:06):
Really.

Nalee (01:18:07):
Yeah.

Anthony (01:18:08):
So would you follow that same social norm?

Nalee (01:18:10):
Yeah, so are you going to ?
Would you follow that samesocial norm?
Yeah, I would be like if youdon't text, if you don't answer
your texts right away, you'regoing to jail.

Anthony (01:18:17):
You're going to jail so that it's now illegal if you
don't text back immediately?

Nalee (01:18:24):
Yeah, that's a dumb one, but I must say it because I
can't think of anything else.

Anthony (01:18:29):
So just to give you a few examples of different like
social rules, Okay, so likethere's shaking hands, using
proper table manners, holdingthe door for somebody offering
help to those in need, dresscode wise what's considered
appropriate clothing in aparticular setting, how people

(01:18:54):
should speak, listen and respondin a conversation.

Nalee (01:18:57):
Okay.

Anthony (01:18:58):
So those are just a couple different examples.

Nalee (01:19:00):
I guess a social rule that I would change and
normalize would be not having tosay hi to everybody.
Oh, you don't like that.
No, because sometimes you'rejust in a rush to go like I
don't have time to say hi to youright now.
I get it, it's a second, butit's just like I gotta go where

(01:19:21):
I gotta go and that's kind oflike uh, that's also like it
goes hand in hand, like if, uh,somebody was asked what's one of
my like little likeinconvenience, like things.
That kind of bugs me.
It would be that when, like,you're walking and the person
sees you walking, but I get,it's their job to say hi, but
it's just like not right now I'min a rush.

Anthony (01:19:41):
Okay, I will agree with that.
Like when you go to the grocerystore or something like or you
go shopping and you have thoseplaces that like they work on
commission.
Yeah, just leave me alone.

Nalee (01:19:51):
No offense, but like those cashiers, like when
they're just standing there nothelping anybody and they say hi,
but you're clearly powerwalking to get past him, like
they could just say hi tosomebody else or just watch me
walk, just don't say hi to you.
Like and it's okay to not sayhi.
I think I would prefer that.

(01:20:11):
Yeah, it's not being rude, it'sjust reading the room.
Because what if, hypothetically, I needed to go shit and you
said hi to me?
You took two seconds away frommy shitting time.
I could have shat in my pantsthe moment that I said hi to you
.

Anthony (01:20:29):
Oh my gosh.

Nalee (01:20:30):
Yeah, I hope you have better bowel control than that
well, I'm just kidding I can getsome diapers, yeah I promise
I'm friendly, but just not mostof the time.
Like I'm I'm kind of alwaysfriendly, not really well when
I'm on the go, like I'm thistype of people, like I'm in and

(01:20:50):
out, like if I go shopping, Idon't like to be disrupted.
I'm there for one thing,because this is my own thing.
Is that like if I, if I say hito you and you're in the candy
aisle, I'm gonna look for candybecause you're in the candy
aisle, so it's more for mybenefit than it is yours.
Like I need to go and get mything from target just that one

(01:21:12):
thing and come back out, becauseif I don't I'm going to buy the
whole store.

Anthony (01:21:18):
That's fair, but that's also what they want.

Nalee (01:21:21):
I know.
That's why it's not for theirbenefit, it's for mine, it's for
you, yeah.
So don't say hi to me unless Isay hi to you.

Anthony (01:21:30):
Yeah, it's for you, yeah, so don't say hi to me
unless I say hi to you.
Yeah, yeah, I would agree withthat.
Okay, I'm good with that.
Okay, hoes, welcome to DMs,decisions and DeLulu, where
social media chaos meets reallife drama and we spiral
accordingly.
This is where we unpack theunhinged question our life
choices and embrace our innerDeLulu.

(01:21:51):
Are they obsessed with us or isthe universe just being petty?
Either way, we're riding thewave.
No judgment, just vibes.
Let's get into it, alright.
So first one I got for you iswhat's a hill that you're
willing to die on, even ifeveryone else disagrees?

Nalee (01:22:11):
Okay, I've mentioned this before, but Twilight,
twilight's a classic.

Anthony (01:22:21):
No, that's not a classic.

Nalee (01:22:22):
No, Twilight's a classic, no matter what you say.
No, twilight's a classic.

Anthony (01:22:27):
You're going to die on that hill.

Nalee (01:22:28):
I'm going to die on that hill, no matter what anybody
says Of all hills to die on.

Anthony (01:22:32):
You're dying on the Twilight.

Nalee (01:22:32):
Hill.
Twilight is a classic becauseit's one of those movies where I
could watch it over and overagain and not be bored of it.
Like I watch it year round andI still get shocked Like, oh my
God, Edward's a vampire Reallyno, Exactly, but still it is a
classic for me.

Anthony (01:22:54):
Okay.

Nalee (01:22:54):
Yeah, that's a hill I'm willing to die on.

Anthony (01:22:57):
Oh Choices, I guess.

Nalee (01:22:59):
Yeah, you're a choice you made it through.

Anthony (01:23:03):
I did say no judgment, but I'm judging, okay.

Nalee (01:23:08):
Let me think of one.
Let's see, ooh, I have one herefor you.
What does your explore page, orfor you page, say about you?

Anthony (01:23:20):
It says that I'm a Taylor Swift fan.

Nalee (01:23:24):
Okay.

Anthony (01:23:25):
And that I am what else ?
Okay, so Taylor Swift fan.
I'm what else Okay, so TaylorSwift fan.
I think I must shop a lot onlike TikTok, because I get a lot
of ads.
I don't know if that's yeah, Idon't know if that's like.

Nalee (01:23:39):
I think everybody gets ads yeah.

Anthony (01:23:41):
Because it's like, I feel like it's every two TikToks
.

Nalee (01:23:45):
It's like an ad for something.
I feel like you get that too,but I've never shopped from.

Anthony (01:23:47):
TikTok before.
Oh, really, yeah, so TaylorSwift fan and that I enjoy the
news.

Nalee (01:23:58):
I'm lost for words that's so old, because I'm a grandpa,
grandpa, okay Well.
I kind of want to ask you thesame question though I thought
you were going to say somethingabout birds or something, but
clearly not.

Anthony (01:24:14):
No, there's no birds on my For you page.

Nalee (01:24:16):
Oh Me For my For you page , I think obviously I have a lot
of stuff to do with nails, likelooking up nail designs or how
to do nail designs, and darkcomedy.
Ooh yeah, I have a lot ofreally bad ones, I think I need
to delete my account and redo myalgorithm.

(01:24:37):
Yeah, I have a lot of likereally dark humor stuff and like
true crime stuff, because I'mobsessed with true crime.

Anthony (01:24:48):
I like true crime too, but not as much as you.

Nalee (01:24:51):
Yeah, I love true crime.
Okay, crime too, but not asmuch as you.
Yeah, I love true crime.

Anthony (01:24:53):
Okay, what type of delulu are you?
Are you the they're obsessedwith me or the universe is
testing me?
Type?

Nalee (01:25:02):
oh for sure I'm.
The universe is testing me,type preach.
Yeah, I think I've, and youknow this.
I'm not playing victim oranything.
I think just a lot of shitthat's happened to me where I'm
just like what the fuck is goingon, where it's kind of like one
thing after another, afteranother, after another, where
I'm just like God hates me.

Anthony (01:25:20):
That's what I was trying to say earlier, with like
those minor inconveniences.

Nalee (01:25:23):
Yeah.

Anthony (01:25:24):
It's like little things .
It's like can't I just catch abreak?
Like what did I do in a pastlife that the universe just
can't even like?

Nalee (01:25:31):
yeah let one day go by with nothing all right, okay, um
, I have one more for you here.
What's a toxic but fun opinionyou'd share online if you didn't
care who saw it?

Anthony (01:25:47):
a toxic but fun opinion .
Oh, that's a good one.
Ooh, this one's gonna break theinternet.
Okay, are you ready?

Nalee (01:25:55):
for this.

Anthony (01:25:55):
Yes, this is like the biggest controversy of the world
.

Nalee (01:25:59):
Okay, I'm scared, but go ahead.

Anthony (01:26:01):
Pineapple goes on pizza .

Nalee (01:26:03):
Yes, I love pineapple on pizza.
Yes.

Anthony (01:26:08):
Thank you.

Nalee (01:26:09):
It's so good.

Anthony (01:26:09):
People who say pineapple doesn't go on pizza.
I have a problem with that?

Nalee (01:26:12):
Yeah, same.
Like you guys are liars or youdon't know how to eat good, yeah
, that's it.
I'm not a big stuffed crust fan, so I don't judge me.
I'm not a popular opinion.

Anthony (01:26:22):
I gotta be in the mood for it.

Nalee (01:26:24):
Yeah, I don't, that's for me.

Anthony (01:26:27):
Well, yeah, if you're lactose, good God yeah.

Nalee (01:26:29):
Good God.

Anthony (01:26:32):
Well, I'm just picturing and I'm like I'm
flashbacking to all the timesthat you needed to have
fettuccine alfredo.

Nalee (01:26:37):
Yeah Well, fettuccine is the only thing that I would like
.
Suffer for.
It literally would be the onlything that I will ever suffer
for in my life is fettuccine,alfredo it is good when it's
made right.
I will hurt my butt for thatthat's staying in there yeah, I
would hurt my butt forfettuccine alfredo like we
should just get that on at-shirt.

(01:26:58):
I would hurt my butt for thatyeah we don't have to say what
yeah, let people that's oursdon't take it assume your own
yeah, yeah, I love Fettuccine.
Alfredo, baby, don't even let methink about it.
All right, so just to kind ofwrap up this episode, to kind of
get to know us a little bitbetter, I'm going to do a never

(01:27:21):
have I, but maybe I did.
It's just going to be thesequick scenarios.
I'm going to say never have Iever going to be these quick
scenarios.
I'm going to say never have Iever.
And then I could either lie ortell you the truth and you will
decide if.

Anthony (01:27:37):
I'm lying, or not Okay, okay, and I'm answering for you
.

Nalee (01:27:39):
Yes.

Anthony (01:27:40):
Okay.

Nalee (01:27:40):
That's correct.
So, for example, my first oneis never have I ever pretended I
was asleep to avoid talking.

Anthony (01:27:49):
And I would say, if I think you've done it, yes, I
think you've done it for sure.

Nalee (01:27:53):
You think so?
Yes, no.

Anthony (01:27:56):
Really yeah.

Nalee (01:27:59):
I'm a very emotional-based person, so if we
talked or if something happened, I want to talk it out right
away.
More than often, I'm going tobe like, no, we're talking about
this right now, you're notgoing to go to sleep, we're
going to talk about this.

Anthony (01:28:17):
Really.

Nalee (01:28:17):
Yeah.

Anthony (01:28:18):
Okay.

Nalee (01:28:19):
Yeah, I like to get that shit out the door, like, for
example, like if B and I, likewe have like a disagreement, I
want to talk about it.
I don't want to go to bed mad,and that's also one of my main
things I don't ever go to sleepmad.

Anthony (01:28:38):
I mean that's good.
Yeah, I think I was thinking ofit differently.

Nalee (01:28:41):
I was thinking of it like Like with a friend where she's
just talking forever.
No, I was thinking like I mean,I've never done that.

Anthony (01:28:50):
So, like you, ever had one of those mornings where you
like you wake up and you'restill laying in bed and then B's
walking around and then hetries to talk to you.

Nalee (01:28:57):
He'll never do that.

Anthony (01:28:58):
And then, okay, see, but that's what I was thinking.
I was thinking like you're inbed, you're awake, but you're
not fully awake, and so, andthen they try talking to you,
and so you pretend to be asleep.

Nalee (01:29:10):
Yeah, I'm not like that either.
I'm very attentive.
If somebody asks me, I'm alwayslike, oh my God, they might be
dying.
So I need to pay attention thatgot dark, it's just like that
she might be dying.
I want to make sure people aretaken care of, kind of a thing.
Again, it's the savior complex,but if somebody asks me a
question and even after I'mreally tired, I will answer it

(01:29:35):
Interesting.

Anthony (01:29:40):
Let me try my hand at this.
Never have I ever lied to getout of plans.

Nalee (01:29:45):
Oh, I know damn well you've done that.
We've done that together.
I mean, we've never done thattogether, you've done it by
yourself.

Anthony (01:29:54):
That ain't true, don't you lie.
But I think that's one of thosethings where it's like you can
make plans, but then it's likeyou know the day of you work.
Maybe it's a long fucking dayat work.

Nalee (01:30:11):
I know damn well any everybody listening has lied
about plans once in their lifeat least once, yeah, yeah okay,
my next one is never have I everspent way too long stalking
someone I don't even like that'sa lie, because I feel like you

(01:30:31):
would have done that yeah, yeah,I feel like yeah because you
have a tendency like I spiraland I'm gonna probably get some
hate for this don't make mesound crazy bitch I feel like
women are experts like likeFacebook stalking, instagram

(01:30:52):
stalking, whether or not theylike them or not Like, if they
go down that rabbit hole, ifthey even like, peek their head
in that rabbit hole.

Anthony (01:31:00):
they are spiraling on all of the platforms and they're
professionals at it.

Nalee (01:31:05):
Okay, I will, however, um fight this one.
I'm also like I will look at it, but I don't.
I don't go too deep in itbecause I don't got the time of
day.
I just go look like, oh, she'sugly done, that's it yeah sorry,
yeah sorry, honey boo boo yeah,that's it.
Or like oh, she's not thatinteresting.

(01:31:26):
Or she can't beat me, done,that's it.
She can't beat you.
Can't beat me, done, that's it.

Anthony (01:31:30):
She can't beat you, she can't beat me In like, looks
wise.

Nalee (01:31:34):
In general.
Oh okay, humor looks vibe.
That's it.

Anthony (01:31:39):
You cocky?
Yeah, I am kind of cocky.
You got confidence.

Nalee (01:31:44):
I like it Sometimes.
Yeah, I do.
I think it's just because Iknow that nobody could ever be
me.

Anthony (01:31:52):
I mean, that's fair yeah.

Nalee (01:31:54):
And why waste my time getting into people's business
when they don't matter to me?
That's the main thing for me.
That's true, yeah.
However, I will like, if yousay, ooh, go check out this
person, go look at their ears orsomething, it looks wonky.
You know, damn well, I'm.

Anthony (01:32:12):
I'm googling that shit right away oh yeah, why wouldn't
you yeah, especially ifsomebody is giving you,
somebody's literally giving youthe ammunition, like yeah, go
look at so and so yeah and thepictures that they just posted
with their yeah family, butthat's me.

Nalee (01:32:28):
I don.
I don't normally do a lot ofstalking.
I think I am very oblivious tothat stuff because it doesn't
really interest me.
Again, it comes back to mebeing shallow.
If you can't beat me, whyYou're not shallow, though I
feel like that's kind of shallow.

Anthony (01:32:47):
I don't feel like that's shallow.
I guess, I think that that'sconfidence.
And I think that that'sconfidence, and I think that
that's being able to look atsomebody and like I feel like
that could be condescendingsometimes, but what?
There's an episode of Will andGrace where she makes the joke.
She's like God.

(01:33:09):
How does it go?
They looked at you and it waslike not a threat yeah, kind of
kind of like that.

Nalee (01:33:15):
Yeah, that's, that's how I think most of the time, like,
uh, we could be friends becauseyou ain't a threat, you're not a
threat.

Anthony (01:33:22):
Yeah never have I ever sent a risky text and
immediately regretted it.

Nalee (01:33:31):
No, I don't think so.
I feel like you're very goodwith sending texts.
I feel like you overanalyze itand then you're like, okay, this
is a good one.

Anthony (01:33:40):
Send 100%.

Nalee (01:33:42):
Yeah 100%.

Anthony (01:33:43):
I overanalyze it and I'm very I mean you've noticed
that like when we work togetheris like I'm very methodical in
what I say 100% and I really dotake into consideration, like
who I'm talking to, what I'mtalking to them about and how
I'm going to say it, because youknow I don't sugarcoat things,

(01:34:05):
but I will.
I will formulate what I say andtailor it to who I'm saying it
to so that it doesn't becomesomething bigger than it needs
to be.

Nalee (01:34:19):
You're going to send that screenshot to the DM, but not
the voice note.

Anthony (01:34:22):
Yeah, I know, going back to that now.

Nalee (01:34:26):
Okay, yeah, all right, my last one here is never have I
ever used LOL just to softensomething savage, and if you
know me, you already know theanswer to this one.

Anthony (01:34:43):
That's a lie.

Nalee (01:34:44):
Yeah.

Anthony (01:34:44):
Everybody does that.

Nalee (01:34:45):
I say LOL to everything though.
Who doesn't we like seriously,as as a society we overuse lol
and yeah, like every text that Iread you, I end it with lol, or
I begin it and end it in lolsame, yeah, or you begin it,
middle it and end it yeah, yeah,people use lol too much.
People, as in me, I use lol alot.

(01:35:07):
That's why sometimes like andyou know this, sometimes I
message you I'm like what Ididn't mean to lol that like I
lol too, much and I becomeself-conscious in my fucking
texts, which I shouldn't need to, but like, yeah, lol is
definitely used too much I agreewith that, yeah but you're
right um, okay, so my last one.

Anthony (01:35:30):
Never have I ever created a whole story from one
vague post.

Nalee (01:35:34):
Oh, you've definitely done that, yeah, yeah.

Anthony (01:35:37):
Yeah, my mind tends to spiral and wander and again
overanalyze, overthink.
Yeah, yeah, for sure, All thetime.

Nalee (01:35:45):
I mean, I've done that before too.

Anthony (01:35:46):
I wish I could just shut my brain off.
Same Like that would be great.
Not that before too.
I wish I could just shut mybrain off.
Same like that would be great.
Not literally, because I enjoy,you know, being alive and being
able to use my body andfunction.
Yeah, but like sometimes I'mjust like can I just get an hour
without thinking about anythingat all?

Nalee (01:36:03):
yeah, I totally get it.
I'm I've done that more thanonce, so I get it.

Anthony (01:36:12):
And just like that, you survived the intro Barely.

Nalee (01:36:17):
If you thought this was unhinged, buckle up.
Ho, we haven't even gottendisrespectful yet.

Anthony (01:36:22):
Go hit that follow button like it owes you money.
We're bringing opinions,tangents and maybe just a touch
of emotional damage.

Nalee (01:36:31):
Tell your friends your situationship, your favorite
messy cousin.
We're not gatekeeping the chaos.
And look, don't just lurk.
Rate us on Apple Podcasts orSpotify, Leave a comment and
stalk us on all the socials.
We see you, ho.

Anthony (01:36:47):
And if you've got thoughts, praise, drama or tea,
write to us attwintangentspodcastcom.
That's tangents with an S baby.
This is Twin.

Nalee (01:36:58):
Tangents, loud, petty and just getting started.
See you next episode, don't belate, thank you.

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