dog mountain

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I'm Coach Tammie Bennett.

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Welcome to episode seven of to coach
Bennett's talking. This episodeis called Dog mountain. Because
we're talking about climbing dogmountain. And coming on back
down dog mountain. We also talkabout Taylor Swift concert
tailgaters, small bathrooms, ourlove of reading, and so much

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more. Let's get started.

Oh, hey, Coach didn't see you there.

Oh, that's because I don't have my video on
but Hey, Coach videos gonna becoming on shortly.

What have you been up to?

Okay, I guess we'll just race to see who
gets that first question. Andhow are you doing?

Wait, you didn't say go? Oh, well, new
rules.

There's a new sheriff in town. And the
first rule is there are norules, which is a rule, which is
why anarchy makes no sense tome. Okay, how are you doing?

So good.
How are you?

Fantastic.
How was your week?

It was good. But I think before we get
into that, I think we shouldtell people that we are in a
hotel room. And one of us isrecording in a bathroom. And one
of us is recording on a couch.

Yeah, I guess we could ask them who they
think is in which place? Yeah.
But I will also say, this willprobably be the only time this
week that no one's going tobother me while I'm in one of
the places. So there's yourhand.

Okay.
Okay, what have you been up tothis week?

Well, I guess we're just going to
disregard the fact that I askedyou first. But I recently was at
the Nike outdoor nationalchampionships in Eugene, Oregon.
And when as it is known, is thehigh school national
championships for track andfield. And it was glorious,
because I love track and field.
And I love the high school levelof track and field. What I don't

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like are the allergies thatEugene gives me. It's the one
place basically that gives meout of control crazy allergy. So
other than having a runny noseand bloodshot eyes for three
days. It was it was a reallygood time. How about you?

Something that you just said made me think
of a petty grievance. But Ialready have one for today. So
I'm gonna write it down and fileit away for another time. And I
am good. So what I've been up tois while you were at outdoor
nationals, I was hanging out andwatched a twister with our son

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hung out with our girls. Thesweet Wait,

wait, wait, the way you phrased it seemed
odd like you guys were justwatching a tornado. You said we
watched a twister. I think

we turned into storm chasers while you
were gone. That's why there'sdents in the car from all the
hail. Okay. Okay. What I meantto say was that we sat on the
couch and watched the moviecalled Twister. And 90s from the
90s Has there been a more recentone twist or remake twist or
two? Two twisters.

But if if knows her sister, if nobody
knows. The first one they may bewondering like what movie is
this? Is it out in the theaters?
It's from the 90s Helen Hunt,Bill Paxton. Philip Seymour
Hoffman. Great movie. That's allI'm saying. You if you sit on
your couch long enough, you'regonna see it on like TBS or
something at some point.

Yes. So we watch that. Our girls went
camping with a bunch of girls inthe woods. And they did a major
hike, which is foreshadowing tosomething that we're going to
talk about in a few minutes. Andthe other kind of cool thing
that's going on this week is wesurprised our daughters with
Taylor Swift tickets.

Yeah, that's that's a big deal. That's
massive. It's a big deal. Yeah,it's an I actually just got to
slide this in here. I have agood friend who is I'm not gonna
say musical snob. He's a musicalaficionado, and likes a lot of
the bands that I like so we'retalking alternative music, rock

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music, and he went with hisdaughter. And he said it's
probably the best concert he'sever been to, which is some
pretty big time laudatory.
statements from this guy. Soshe's whatever she's bringing,
it's legit.

Yeah, I just know that our girls have
not stopped talking since thenabout what they're going to
wear. Because apparently it's abig deal, what you wear to the
concerts. And another reallycool thing is that T Swift
concert goers, where lots andlots and lots of bracelets on
their arms that they make. Andthen they trade them with other

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concert goers. So they areplanning all the bracelets so
they can make trades with allthe other fans, and it's just
going to be so fun.

Yeah, what was interesting to me, was the
kind of community aspect to itthat my buddy brought up, he
equated it to, again, more highpraise to kind of the community
vibe that you would get a Deadconcerts back in the day, which
is pretty nuts. He said, Youknow, everyone kind of looks out
for each other, everybody'sdance, and everybody sings every

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single line to every singlesong. And, yeah, so anyway,
pretty cool that they get to dothat and be a part of that, you
know, once in a lifetime thingto get to go see maybe the best
concert they'll ever see. Or atleast the concert that all other
concerts will be measured by.

I just have to throw out a little thank
you to a former client, currentfriend, Melissa, I had texted
her about something. And shesaid, before I answer your
question, I just want to showyou where I am. And she was with
her daughter, and they were at aTaylor Swift concert waiting to
go in. And she had done it kindof on a whim, they were out of

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state visiting. And they sawthat Taylor Swift was there. So
they decided to get tickets. Andthat just made me think why
aren't we just doing more thingslike that. So that's what kind
of inspired me to get thetickets. And that former client
now friend said, be prepared tonot go to the bathroom for three
hours because you don't want tomiss a single thing.

Well, you've inspired me. So once I
get out of this bathroom thatI'm currently in oops, ways out
of the bag. Once I get out ofthis bathroom, figuratively
speaking, once I get out of thisbathroom, I'm going to do more
things. How about that?

Great. And I just want to say in case
anyone out there listening isupset that Mr. Coach Bennett has
to be in the bathroom. I havedone my fair share of podcast
episodes in the bathroom. So Ifigured it was time that if he's
the one in there, that it's timefor him to pay his dues.

And I just have to say, if anyone's
wondering out there, does hemake her record her podcast in
the bathroom? The answer is no.
But I've definitely been made todo the podcast in the bathroom
today. So I'm just saying thatfor the record here. And I'm
loving every minute of it. Ithink this is like a late

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Father's Day gift. So

yeah, like you said, this is the only time
you get to be in there for along time without us, you know,
wondering where you are and whatyou're doing and why you're
avoiding us.

No, I will say the only difference really
is we're talking on mics asopposed to you coming up to the
door and trying to talk to methrough the door or when I'm
just really just trying to relaxin here.

Yeah, this is much more peaceful.

Are you okay? What's next? Meat and

taters?
Let's talk about dog mountain.

Dog mountain. Doesn't it sound like
a great movie? Like fourfriends? Dog mountain. I don't
know what the what the storywould be.

Obviously three friends come back down.

Four friends Head Up Dog mountain.
Three come down. Only onesalive. Like why is carrying two
people. Anyway, dog mountain. Isit haunted?

In real life?

Oh, I'm in the movie? No, I don't think so.
No, no, they battle locals. It'sone of those things where it's
like some out of towners come inand little bit like deliverance.
Alright, anyway, let's not ruinour story. Or unless I already
have dog mountain. What's dogmountain? Why are we talking
about dog mountain?

Okay, so as I alluded to earlier, our
daughters and a couple of theirfriends went camping overnight,
and then the next day they wokeup and they went and did a hike
on dog mountain. And they camehome and they talked about it
for days. Mostly every time theywalked upstairs because then
their legs are killing thembecause the hike is seven is it

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seven or seven and a half milesround trip up and back.

We measured it a seven and a half round
trip.

And the first half of it is all uphill
to the tune of 2800 feet.

Beyond 2800 feet I think it was I think was
over 20 I think we cracked 2800feet.

Okay, yes.
So basically 3000 feet straightup into the air and felt like
and then having to come backdown. And because they talked
about so much. I just thoughtthat we should do it for
Father's Day.

Yes. So you heard that correctly, because
the daughter's hiked seven and ahalf miles with their very fit
friends, climbing 3000 feet, aseven and a half mile hike.
Tammy thought what a greatFather's Day gift that would be

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to make Chris hike 3000 feetseven and a half miles early in
the morning on Sunday after hegot back from Eugene and Nike
outdoor nationals late Saturdaynight.

Yeah, we should have mentioned like the
five girls that did this superfit. All of them are members of
one of the best track and fieldcross country teams in the
country in high school. And ifthey were sore and having
trouble walking for two days,then what does that say about
what was going to happen to us?
But yeah, I ran the idea by you.

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And I said, I think that'd befun to do for Father's Day. And
you agreed?

Yeah, and I can't. I'm not going to say I
didn't agree. I'm also not goingto say that I was fully
comprehending what you wereasking. So I'm pretty sure I was
walking into the meet at thetime. And as far as I'm
concerned, I, you might havebeen saying let's go get some
pizza and wings at a place sevenand a half miles away. 3000 feet

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into the sky. And I'm prettysure I said that sounds great.
So I wasn't totally payingattention.

Yeah, I mean, and to be fair, I didn't
know what we were getting into,even though I was seeing
firsthand the trauma that thegirl's legs are going through.
Because I don't think anythingcould have prepared us for the
steep inclines that we were on.
But it was so beautiful. When wegot to the top, what do you
think like quarter mile is whenit got like the weather got kind

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of nuts?

Yeah, it got scary, about a quarter mile
from the top.

Okay, I also want to point out when our
girls and their friends did it,it was a beautiful day. It was
nice and warm and sunny, not acloud in the sky. They could see
the Columbia Gorge for so manypoints along this trip up the
mountain. When we went it wasnot the same. So we had about a
quarter mile to go and it astorm kind of came rolling in. I

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don't know if you call it astorm, but it was really windy,
mega clouds rain like that wasgoing sideways like shards of
glass into your face. And I needto say windy again. And so it's
kind of scary, but really cool,too.

Yeah, and we're not hikers. So it was it
was a little bit unnerving forus. These you are it's a
technical trail. You're up alongthe side of this. I don't know
what classifies a mountain ornot. It's called Dog mountain.
But the trail is very narrow.
The wind luckily was pushing usup against the mountain, thank
goodness. But there was therewere a few moments there where I

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was thinking, I'm definitely notcomfortable right now. But I
felt safe. But I wasuncomfortable.

Yeah, totally. I had the same. And
then there was a point where I'mlike, but I really want to get
to the top we worked hard to gethere. I still do feel safe. And
I just want to keep pushingthrough even though it was cold.
Our hands. Both of our handswere really cold.

Yes. And we had heard that when you get to
the top. The the views areamazing. So that was also
driving us forward. So you wantto talk a little bit about how
we eventually make it to thetop. We turn around. Let
everyone know just how amazingthose views were.

Yeah, it's the same as if you look at a
airplane window, and it's justwhite.

Yeah, there was just clouds. It was just
raining windy. And we did notbreak through the cloud cover.
So somewhere out in the mist wassomething amazing. We just
couldn't see it. Yeah, yeah.

I will say on the way back down, we got a
cup a little breaks in theclouds just enough for us to get
out our cameras and start totake a picture. And then the
clouds came back was just a tinylittle break, just enough to
tease us about like what wecould not photograph in the
background of our photos. Yes,

it was worthwhile though. It was
awesome. It was in thesatisfaction of getting to the
top was amazing. But now we haveto go back down. And I think
this is the funny part. Becauseas difficult and as exhausting
as it was to go up. As runnerswe know this. Going down is
harder.

Yes. As coaches. We've coached many,
many people telling them thatthe downhill is so much harder
than the up at least on theterms of like the the trashing
of the legs. But yeah, this wassome serious downhill.

Yeah, in fact, we couldn't hike down it.
We had to actually jog down itbecause it was too steep to walk
and my legs are starting toshake. But before we get into us
melting down. I've got aquestion for you. Well, it's a
couple of questions. It's aloaded question. Okay. It took
us two over two and a half hoursto do.

Yep. And three to 20

I think it was over two and a half hours
running time. It was two and ahalf hours like including
stopping for pictures and stufflike that. But it was like, I
thought it was like 235 I canlook, but I'm pretty sure thing.
It's

224.

I'll go at the MacBook. Well, when you're
answering, we'll look. Myquestion was, like, all great
kind of adventures. And I feellike this was kind of an
adventure. There are lessonslearned. I'm wondering what were
some of the ones you learned onyour way up? And then down? Dog
mountain?

Yeah, I don't know, if it was so much
learned is like reminded that ifyou're looking at the mountain
as a whole, it's feelsimpossible. And maybe even is
impossible if you're looking atall the 16,000 steps that you're
gonna have to take. And but ifyou just kind of put your head
down a little bit, and just lookat where you are this one little

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segment before you do the nextswitchback it, it's so doable,
and totally, yeah, just doableto break it down segment by
segment and only focus on thesegment that you're on. It was
just a really good reminder. Imean, there were a couple of
times where we were like, youknow, do you want to just stop
for a minute? And I'm like, no,no, we cannot stop in the middle
of a segment, we have to get tolike a switchback. So it just

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felt more like you weren'truining the momentum. And you
could just focus to get to thatnext little switchback. So yeah,
breaking it down into chunksmakes it so much easier. What
about you,

um, a healthy dose of humility, I
think helps. And I don't mean inan in no way, as is anything
other than a positive, powerfulthing, I think, understanding or
reminding myself over and overagain, just how difficult this
was, and that I was struggling,and that it was hard. And I was

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putting in work actually gave methe strength to keep going. So I
think if I was constantlysaying, why can I do this, I
should be able to handle this.
This isn't hard. It's justanother uphill. I was
celebrating how hard it was. AndI was actually telling you a
couple times, like, wow, this isa reminder that like, running is
not hiking. And running hillsdoes not mean that you can just

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do a technical trail on a hike.
It's that humility, that I thinkmade it a little bit more
exciting, but also gave me oddlyenough more energy when I was
saying, Wow, this is really, youknow, sapping my energy, it was
creating more energy for me togo. So I think when you're
taking on something difficulthumility, sometimes, I think is

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Miss Miss misrepresented aslike, a lack of confidence. And
I don't think that's it at all.
I think the humility actuallywas part of why I was able to do
dog mountain.

Yeah, I think this touches back to two
comments that we've talked aboutbefore. One is that it is
humbling to be a human againstnature, not that we were against
nature, but just the size of us,compared to the size of this
mountain was really humbling.
And so humility, kind of in thatway, were like, Man, this thing
just is gonna keep going upwhether we want to go up to it
or not. So that was just alwayskind of, I don't know, there's

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something always beautiful aboutthat, to me of just we're one
tiny little speck in thisuniverse on this planet. And
other thing that we've talkedabout before is there can be fun
had in the heart. It can be sohard that you're just laughing
together and groaning andmoaning and complaining in the
best way. I mean, there was onepoint where I'm like, What is

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even fun about this? Right?

Yes. And that that helped dramatically.
It broke up, I think, a really,really long uphill that we were
doing that was very steep. Andthat laughter really helped. It
relaxed me a little because Iwas struggling. And I think I
was getting so into the strugglethat I was, I was getting close
to starting to have like somenegative, you know, commentators

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bouncing around in my head. Sowhen I heard you say that, it
just broke me up. And werealized that that is what's
fun. It is going through thisand realizing like this is a
really brutal Hill. What are wedoing? Yeah, like on the way
down a couple times, we said,you know, how are you doing? I'm
like, Just super ready for thisto be over. And then we

were just laughing. Because we meant it in
the best way. And like, and Iposted about this on my
Instagram and one of the fivegirls that had gone on the trip
with our daughters messaged meand she was like, oh, em, gee,
wasn't it so fun and so brutal.
She wrote it all in caps, solike 10 Exclamation marks. And
that's so true. Yes, the funcomes from the brutality of it.

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The fun comes from the struggleand that you survived and you
made it to the bottom, you'relike, look at what we just did.
Like, we instantly looked at ourGarmin and Strava. And we're
like looking at the stats oflike, how many steps and how
much altitude and all that andthere's something so cool about
knowing that you just did that.

And you know what another thing which I
thought was super cool was thedifferent type of people that
we're doing it because, again,this goes back a little bit to
the humility but it also goesback to you know, in some ways,
we fall into the trap ofthinking You know, if it's hard
for me, then it must be hard foreveryone. And I learned this

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when I got hurt 20 years ago,and I had to get on a bike. And
I remember I thought I was sofit because I was so fit for a
runner. And there was a guy whowas twice my age who came up
behind me and flew by me andpatted me on the back as he was
biking by me and said, like,keep it up, like I would say, to
someone who just startedrunning. And this this guy is

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was older than I am now. And atthe time, I was 24. And I was
super fit, but it was adifferent type of exercise. And
we saw lots of different typesof people, ages, and just
handling this really, reallywell. I mean, when we were
coming back down, we saw acouple that's gotta be 1520

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years older than us. And theywere just chillin, about to head
up to do the last quarter mile,they had their hiking gear. And
I thought that is reallyawesome. Because if I saw them
at the bottom of the hill, afterwe had done it, I think they're
gonna have a really hard time.
And they were crushing it. So itwas just really neat to see
different people, finding thingsthat they enjoy that are also

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challenging, but if I just sawthem on the street, and I didn't
know them, I wouldn't realizejust how badass and
extraordinary they are. It'sjust like, you don't know what
hard things people are goingthrough. You also don't know how
badass some people are. Yeah, sotrue. Okay, I've got another
lesson learned. Or maybe it'ssomething I already knew. And it

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was more of a reminder toremember again, that I'd like
to, to just say real quick.

You're going to tell us?

Well, there was just the pause there where I
was hoping you were going tolike, you know, take the bait
and say, Wow, tell me, okay, sowe were going up the hill. And
this is maybe two thirds of theway in, I'm struggling a bit, I
think I mentioned, oh, I'mstarting to feel this in my hip
flexors, because your hipflexors helped lift up your

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legs. And I remember thinking, Iwonder if, you know, one day a
week, instead of going for areally easy run in the summer,
you take your team and you dosomething like this, you do like
a long hike. And because it'sworking you a little bit
differently, and there's lesspounding, long story short, the
point was, because I wasstruggling on the hike, and it

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was taxing parts of my body inways that a normal run would
not. I started to think abouthow important it is to be an
athlete, and not just a runner,to be well rounded as an
individual, and not have sometunnel vision to keep you in an
open mind. It's just one ofthose things where the hike was

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reminding me at first initiallyfrom an athlete perspective, but
it's really it's for a humanperspective, that you have to be
challenging yourself taxingyourself, adding to your
repertoire of talents, learningmore, and not just doing the
same thing over and over andoverdone because it will also
make you do the things that youdo over and over and over again

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better. If you can add somediversity to what you're doing.
That's what dog Mountain wasteaching me.

Yeah, I love that. I don't have anything
to add.

Fantastic.
That's when I know I'm doing agood job. Okay, so I'm still
sore. You're still sore. It's aworthy soreness. I feel like we
earned something fantastic withthat beyond the physical side.
So thank you, dog mountain.
Thank you, Bennet girls fordoing the hike with your
teammates and and passing on dogmountain to us.

Yeah, it feels so much better to be sore
from this than it does fromsitting or sleeping. Like in
Episode past.

Yes, yes, absolutely worthy work. All
right. What's the next

let's bring it down. Oh, petty
grievances. petty grievances.

Yes. Okay.
You go leave us off.

Okay, mine has to do with our bathroom. And
we are we have a very, very tinybathroom. And we are fortunate
enough to have two sinks, whichI very much appreciate, although
I would like a little morecounter space. But here's my
petty grievance. We have onedrawer that spans the width of
the two sinks. So when we areside by side getting ready for

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bed, you're doing your contactsand we're brushing her teeth. I
need to get in that drawer. Andin order to do so I have to make
you back up back up back up andit's kind of I don't want to be
annoying, but it feels annoyingto have to make you move the
whole thing. I just want my owndrawers without having to make
you move.

Okay, I don't think that's too much of a
petty grievance. Honestly,

why isn't it well, because

it's it's you're actually being apologetic
about the situation. No, it

bothers me. Yeah, I know I get a little
bit angry every time I have tolike ask you nicely to move so I
can open the drawer.

You get you get angry when you have to act
nice.

No, but I Get angry. And I have to
agonize. No, I get angry that Ihave to ask you to move. And I'm
nice about it. But I'm still alittle bit angry inside that I
can't just open it at myfreewill anytime I want without
having to wait for you to moveand have you move over?

Yeah, well, I'll let you know. I sense that.
Which is why often when I seeyou coming in, to do things, I
kind of slip out and you'rewondering, why is he brushing
his teeth in the middle of thebedroom, or the hallway.

I know.
The other reason why is becausewe have like, we look into our
mirror, but it opens up intolike, some shelves and I have
all my face skincare products inthere. And I like to do one at a
time with my shelf open so thatI like to stand in front of your
mirror so that I can have myshelf open and just reach for my
products one at a time and lookin the mirror. And but if you're
there, I can't do it and youyour hand reaches out quite

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often to shut my mirror doorbecause it bothers you that it's
open. And so yeah, I think maybethe solution to my petty
grievance is that we just getready for bed at different
times.

Okay, all right, that one. I thought that
was done like five minutes ago,but it just kept going. All
right. What's yours? People whotailgate on the highways. Hmm,
yeah. And it's not even. Thereare aggressive tailgaters, the
people that are speeding andbeing a jerk and get out of the

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way just so they can, you canmove to the right, and then they
can just speed. There are otherpeople who don't want to pass
you. But they will be two, threeyards behind your car. And I
just, it's dangerous. It'sannoying. And it makes me think

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that the person is completelyoblivious. It stresses me out. I
don't like tailgaters. So ifyou're someone who drives, just
remember, there is no benefit tobeing a meter or two meters
behind someone else's car. Justgive them the space. You will be
safer, they will be safer, andwe will have a happier road. So

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mine is quick. Mine is short,but tailgaters of the world.
Don't unite. Stop.

That's it.
Okay, let's move on to themailbag. Okay, so while you're
getting a question ready, Iwould like to give a shout out
to Chrissy Jackson for sendingus a four and a half pound bag
of sour gummy candies. Thank youso much, Chrissy, that was
really nice of you. And for you,listeners, we are welcoming your
question. So send them into themailbag. The address is in the

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show notes. We would love toread your question out loud on
the podcast and answer it.

Okay, this one comes from a friend of ours.
And that's why it's a little bitbizarre. It's, let's see here,
let me find it so I can read itperfectly. Okay. Chris, and
Tammy. What is the weirdest orgrossest thing you've ever
eaten? Okay. Do you have ananswer? I do. Okay, what is it?

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Let's go.

So this goes back many years to when we
would rent a house in the OuterBanks with my family. So I have
five younger siblings, and mymom and we would all just rent a
house and hang out for severaldays at the beach, and I was
eating ice cream. Mint ChocolateChip Breyers brand if you must
know best ice cream. And it likehad this weird tastes like

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garlic. So I had another bite.
I'm like, Man, this reallytastes like garlic. Had another
bite. And I finally flipped overthe spoon. And there was like a
hunk of dried like garlic andparmesan cheese or something
that had just like dried ontothe spoon. It's so gross. I
can't even think about it. Ican't even think about it. But

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it it ruined that night of icecream for me and it still makes
my stomach hurt.

That's horrible. And for the record,
you're not quite sure what wason the bottom of that spoon? Can
we just confirm that there is noconfirmation?

Oh, no, I I was I know exactly. It was on
there. I just told you.

Are you sure though? Because it's
frozen. It could have been anynumber of things that wasn't

frozen. It was baked on? No, no, it wasn't
in the ice cream. It was on thespoon.

Oh, so it was just on the splints. You had
some garlic flavored mintchocolate chip ice creams
gusting Wow. There's worsethings to eat. Like what? Well,
I mean, I've eaten a fewinsects. In my time. I've had
this was not like me in thebackyard eating a cricket but I
had some crickets. I believethey were crickets when I was in

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Mexico City recently. But minesimilar to yours. It was
accidental. We went out to eat.
I believe it was in NorthCarolina also when we were
dating and we're having greatconversations and waitress comes
over. I ordered my cheeseburger.

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And the conversation continuedwas fantastic. We're really
having a great conversation,which is important because I
wasn't thinking about what Iordered. And the food arrives.
And I'm excited I put, I likeputting ketchup on my burgers, I
put ketchup on the roll. Okay.
And then I took a bite and youknow, the texture of a burger,
ground beef. Okay. Well, I hadnot ordered a cheeseburger. I

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had actually ordered a chickensandwich. And the texture of
chicken is strikingly different.
So when I bit in thinking, thiswas going to be a burger. And
the texture was not I thought Iwas eating a rotten piece of
meat. And I started to gag atthe table. And like, I spit out

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the food and I freaked out. I'mlike, oh my god, they gave me
like a rancid burger. And Irealized it was actually just a
perfectly made chicken spicychicken sandwich with lettuce on
it. I just didn't realize thatthe lettuce was blocking the
burger or blocking the chickensandwich. I've been into it and
almost freaked out and lost it.
I had ruined most of it becauseI don't put chicken on ketchup.

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That's disgusting. I mean,ketchup on chicken. If you do
that, that's just you got tostop yourself. That's horrible.
You can put mustard on chicken,but you can put ketchup on
chicken. Anyway, one more story.

Oh, boy, did you order the burger or the
chicken? Because you said both.
I ordered

the chicken but because the conversation was
so good. I wasn't thinking andsomewhere in the conversation in
my head. It shifted to youordered a cheeseburger. So I was
expecting a cheeseburger. Eventhough I had ordered a chicken
sandwich. It was not thewaitresses fault. She nailed the
order.

Like this is just back in the day when I
sometimes called you the absentminded professor and you got
angry, but they kind of makesense.

Yeah, I think I initially was just
focusing on the fact that she'scalling me a professor. And I
wasn't focusing on the absentminded part. Or maybe I just
forgot that you called me absentminded.

What was your other story?

Okay, so the other story was I was very
little. And I didn't know what Iwas doing. But I had access to
stuff in the kitchen and I mademyself a sandwich. I didn't know
what I was doing. I must havebeen like five. And I made
myself a mayonnaise sandwich. Idon't like mayonnaise. But I
think maybe commercials orsomething. I just thought this
is what you do. I made the man asandwich. I got very ill. I was

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so grossed out by it. And thereason why this is actually a
nice story. The four out of fivekids the oldest is my sister
Suzanne. She made me raisintoast with butter later on that
night to kind of make me feel alittle bit better than I think
that was the nicest she was tome for like 10 or 15 years
growing up. So I haven't hadmayonnaise since. But that is a

(32:57):
nice story with my sister.

So and you pass it on to me because you
make me raisin toast with butteron lots and lots of days. So
you're just passing on theFaber.

Yeah, and it's not after you're having
many sandwiches either. So

never have a man a sandwich. No, don't

we do not recommend Mani sandwiches. It
was an absolute bomb.

Rose.
Okay, let's talk about what'sfloating our fancy.

You kick this one off. It's floating your
fancy Tammy

the show?
Never have I ever it's onNetflix. I love me some high
school teen drama slashcomedies. Last romance. It's so
good. Mindy Kaling is one of thewriters. It's a little crass. So
if you are can I say prudish? Soit's not for everybody. But it

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is for me. And I watched all ofseason four in a matter of two
days, and it's so good. Iappreciate it very much. Okay,
so

it floated your fancy.

It's still floating it because I'm still
thinking about some of the Yeah,

there was like a high after it. Yeah.
Great. That's awesome. Well, my,what's floating my fancy right
now is reading. Because I wentthrough a long period for the
first time in many, many, manyyears where I was struggling.
Reading. I'm a voracious reader.
I read about 25 to 30 books ayear. I love reading. I went

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through this patch for somereason, where I was just
struggling. And the strugglesare over and I am back in the
books. Now one thing I am doing,which is I'm kind of going rogue
on myself here. If I'm reading aseries, I don't like to read a
second series at the same time.

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So I'm always reading two booksand nonfiction and a fiction.
But if I'm reading a fictionseries, three or four or five
books, I won't start anotherseries until I'm done with all
five of those books. but I'mabout to start wool, which is
the silo series. And I'm readinga Robert Jordan series. And I

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have this other night I forgetthe name of it, but it's another
show. So I've three differentseries going on at the same
time, and I'm reading MalachyMcCourt's history of Ireland.
That's my nonfiction book. SoI'm so excited. I love reading.
We're back in love. It'swonderful. That's it. That's
what's floating my fancy baby.

Yeah, my love for reading has been
recharged too. I think both ofus went through a slump at the
same time. And I am still fourbooks behind my goal on
Goodreads. I think my goal thisyear was 30, which is a low year
for me. But yeah, it's fun tohave us both reading a lot
again.

It is. So cheers to all of you authors out
there. Thank you. Thank you forfor, for making us happy with
all these darn books. Okay,

what do I have in it? Next

is what's next? Oh, you have something

going on?
Just gonna have an idea. If heif the readers out there have
finished a book that they lovedand want to recommend to it.
They could just send it to us inthe mailbag. Absolutely. I feel
like we're kind of good on sourgummies. For what, for a bit.
Thanks to Kevin and Chrissy. Butwe would welcome your your used
books.

You know, it would actually be a great
show. I know we're dragging thisout right now. But you know, it
would be a great show. Ifreaders just sent us questions
about types of books. I've donethis on Instagram before, why
say? What kind of books are youinterested in? Tell me a genre
or a theme or something likethat. And I'll give you a book
recommendation.

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People could send in like, Hey, I'm

looking for a horror book, or I want a teen
romance book, or I want a bookabout baseball players or I want
a historical fiction book. Andthey can ask us and we'll
answer. Great. Maybe the wholeshow. One whole episode, one
whole episode, just boom, justjust give 20 3040 book
recommendations. Okay, what'scoming up? Well,

I probably can answer for both of us
because we're both here. Rightnow. We are both speaking at the
Wildwood running clinic inNaperville. Indiana.

No, and it's Illinois. Okay,

I get my states confused. I'm sorry,
friends. Yeah. But tomorrow, weare speaking to high school
running coaches. And thenWednesday, we are speaking to
female high school runners. Andwe're both really excited. We're
talking about we're speaking twodifferent things. But that's
going to be really fun.

Yep. And we'll put the link up to
Wildwood and some of theprograms that they put on in the
show notes so you can check itout yourself.

There we go. That's all we got.

Yeah. All right. Super excited.

Now you can come out of the bathroom.

Finally, the one time I actually want to
get out of the bathroom, youknow. All right. Well,

I guess this is it. Right? Yeah. Thanks
for being here. Listener.

Thanks, everybody. Thanks for spending
time with me in the bathroom andTammy on the comfortable couch.
It's not comfortable,

but it is a couch. Well, it's more

comfortable than the toilet. Have a great
week. Till next time.

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