Coffee, Cops, And Stop Sticks

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What is going on?
Good morning.
I'm bored.
I've been finding uh now thatI'm working day shift that I
have these moments in themornings where wife's at work,
kids are still sleeping.
Uh yeah, it's 9 a.m.
where I'm at, 9 12 right now.
And yes, my kids are stillasleep.

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That's what teenagers do.
According to my nurse wife, theyrequire more sleep because
they're growing and learning andall that stuff.
Whatever.
I was the same kid.
I slept until like noon.
Oh, yep.
And I'm enjoying some blackrifle coffee.
Um in the house, it's labeledD's Nuts.

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I don't uh know why my wifelabeled my coffee D's Nuts, but
it's uh hazelnut.
So I highly recommend BlackRifle.
They're not a sponsor by anymeans, but jumping on, let me go
over here and look at the chat.
Um I got a new little setup thatuh I've been wanting to practice
with.
So if you guys see some strangelighting and you see kind of a

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weird setup, um, I just moveshit around in the studio.
And I am looking up at my TVright now.
So I'm on my laptop.
I'm not on actually my PC, whichis what I usually do the live
stuff from.
And uh so if I share videos or Iwant to see the chat and all
that stuff, it's just adifferent location for me.
I just change things up, guys.

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That's how that's how you dolife.
Just change things up.
Um, let me make sure that thechat is working.
Checking chat.
And it went through, it wentthrough, and it went through to
Facebook.
Okay, cool.
Yeah, so we're on Facebook,YouTube, Twitch, Instagram.
I'm looking over at the gramsright now.

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I see a bunch of people jumpingon, jumping off.
They're like, why is this guy onso early?
I get it.
Um I'm just curious how theplayback's gonna be when I want
to share the screen.
So I'm gonna check that out realquick.
Um, window what is this?

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Google Chrome is requesting tobypass the system private window
picker and access the screen andallow audio.
Oh well, yeah.
Let's allow that.
That always makes it weird.
Let's see.
Let's see if this lets me share.
Hey, it does.
What do you know?

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What different views can we dohere?
Let's see, shall we?
Let's go with this guy.
Oh, I wish that showed over tothe side just a little bit more.
Let's try.
Okay.

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Nope, just wanted to get achance to test out the new
setup.
Let's see how this goes.
Let me know if you guys can hearthis.

SPEAKER_03 (03:48):
Oh, he's not even on duty either.

SPEAKER_02 (03:53):
I don't know what to do.
I don't know.
Oh!

SPEAKER_05 (03:56):
Oh!

SPEAKER_02 (03:57):
Oh, shoot!

SPEAKER_00 (04:00):
Oh.
So, on this one, one of thethings that was brought up was
like, oh, he's not even on duty.
Well, I don't understand whatmakes you think he's not on
duty.
His lights are on.
Um, it's a police car.
Maybe he's not dressed like acop.
It's hard to tell from here.
That was one of the things thatI wanted to bring up on talking

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about this.
And um people were saying thatit's it's not uh uh Alexander's
fellow law enforcement officerfrom Holland.
What's up, brother?
Uh Holland, Michigan?
I don't think that's what he'sreferring to.
Just looking through thecomments, seeing what

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everybody's up to.
Um, but no, uh, for some reason,uh G.
Quintero said, You gonna watchthat oh, that game.
The game.
Um, so I don't, I don't, I don'tI guess I don't understand what
the thought is on why youwouldn't think that this is a a

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cop that's on duty, other thanmaybe he's not dressed just like
a uniformed officer.
But that's me being a cop for solong that I just take for
granted that people, if theydon't see somebody in a fully
marked uniform, maybe that'swhy.
Um, girl with camera 143, hifrom Tucson.
What's up?

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So maybe that's it.
Um, maybe that's what it is.
Chaplin Campbell's in the house.
He said, Happy belatedThanksgiving, everybody.
Ah, Netherlands, Holland,Netherlands, yeah.
I heard it's beautiful outthere.
Um, but the point being is yes,this is a person who's
definitely on duty.
If they're engaging their lightsand they were off duty, they

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just became on duty.
That's how that works.
So if you're a cop that has atake-home car or does any of
that, as soon as you step in tostart doing law enforcement uh
actions and you're representingyourself as a peace officer,
guess what?
You're now officially on duty.
Um, at least that's how it workswhere I'm at.
So, to answer that question,yes, you are on duty when you

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start doing law enforcementcapacity stuff like this.
Um, and in this one, he decidesto throw some stop sticks.
Now, he may have been a littlebit behind the curve.
Uh, and I want to emphasize theproper way, the way that at
least that I know thateverybody's trained, and the way
that they should be trained onthis, in my opinion, is you

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should have already thrown thosestop sticks all the way across
the road.
They should have been up overthe curb, in my opinion.
And then you pull out thatstring, get it just taught, um,
so there's no slack in it, andthen you wait for that car to
come up.
And it all he's gonna see, ifyou're doing it right, um, is

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just that cop car sitting there,you know.
Um, I would hope you at leastuse your car for cover, even
though that's not cover, um, butjust to put some sort of barrier
between you and that person.
But the point being is you getit over the curb on the other
side because then they can't seeit at all, and you pull it into
their way versus trying to throwit into their way.

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That's how that works.
Um Tasker 6669 said, uh, hi,people forget off duty doesn't
matter when it's regarding howthe law and judges rule on it.
That's true.
Um Good morning, Deborah Bondout in Jacksonville, Florida.
Uh Lacey said, honesty.

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I don't know what we're talkingabout.
Honesty about what?
Or she just means honest.
But um, yeah, so so that's howthose stop sticks should work.
You should you should be pullingthem into the target, not
throwing them out to them,because you leave yourself
exposed and vulnerable when yougot to throw.
Unless you're throwing frombehind true cover, like you

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should you should be doing.
You should be throwing frombehind like a concrete jerse
barrier or a bridge pillar orsomething.
Something that if the car hitsit, it it's not gonna go through
and get to you.
You know, if you if you getbehind your own car, you're
still you're still puttingyourself at a big, big risk.

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So Mr.
Bill Fold in the house.
What's up, Mr.
Bill Fold?
Jason Gaudet.
Uh see, this is much easier forme to track watching it on the
TV here.
It's much easier for me to trackwhen people are talking on
Instagram and when they'retalking on everything else.
Because my restream program iswhat I use.

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It's kind of like um StreamYardand all that stuff that's out
there.
So what Restream does is itallows everybody's chat to show
up on one platform except forInstagram.
I don't know why.
Um, Instagram putting the blockon that because even I think
some of Facebook even shows up.
I have three Facebook pages.
We have the the group page, thetwo cops one donut personal

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page, which is stupid, um, andthen our business page, which is
our main page.
And for some reason, um itdoesn't uh it doesn't show us
all of the Facebook messages,but is what it is.
No technology is perfect yet.
So anyway, um going back to thissituation, car wrecks out, goes

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around the stop sticks.
Luckily didn't go at theofficer.
Um, we actually had an officeron the podcast named Matt
Brazil, and he he did this verything, stolen vehicle, um, and
threw stop sticks out, and thatbad guy decided to plow through
him.
Um, basically almost ripped hisleg completely off.

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Had it not been for anotherofficer that was a prior Marine,
um, I know you can't call themformer Marines, uh, that was a
Marine, and came over andbasically just stuck his finger
in his um, what is the one inthe leg?
The femoral?
Stuck his finger in the femoralartery, uh, saved his life.
And now Matt, after lots andlots and lots and lots of

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surgeries, I think he's in likethe 70s as far as the number of
surgeries he's had, uh, he'sback.
He's back working finely.
Um, it's been a long road forthat guy.
Um, and I tease him all the timeabout videos like this.
I'm like, see, this is like whenit's successful, I'm like, see,
this is how you throw stopsticks.
We have a sixth sense of humor,though.

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So constantly getting on him.
Um, but as far as this officergoes, this is this is not how
you want to do it.
I get it.
You get out there, you getexcited, but damn it, play
safer.
Um, you got lucky.
You got lucky, the bad guydecided he didn't want to kill
you.
Um so, but then you end upwrecking into this thing.
And so then the question getsposed.

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Do you guys believe that?
How do I stop sharing this damnscreen here?
Uh do you guys believe that copsshould be using stop sticks?
Um, stop sticks, by the way,they don't make your tires pop.
People, some some people thinkthat they just explode.
That's not what they do.
It's actually a hollowed-out,like porcupine needle.

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It's kind of like what it is.
Much bigger, obviously.
And um, it releases the aircontrolled.
So it it's it's pretty neat.
Pretty neat technology how itworks to prevent the tire from
just blowing out, pa, you know,and and wrecking.
Um Tasker said, I'm a fell, uh,I'm following an auditor who is
transitioning from California toIdaho.

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Idaho law enforcement doesn'tlook, doesn't look like they
seem to understand how theyshould handle an auditor.
Well, good.
It sounds like they need someauditors out there.
Somebody's got to be theexample.
If you don't want to learn thelaw, somebody's got to be made
the example.
Damn, my coffee's hot.

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Um, and if you don't want tolearn from channels like mine,
channels like Izzo, channelslike Matt Thornton, channels
like Copville, channels likeAntihero, um, let's see, Donut
Shop.
Uh, there's another one.
If you don't want to learn fromthose channels, there's there's
there's a lot of cops out herethat we see the writing on the

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wall.
We understand the mission, weunderstand why it's necessary
because cops keep screwing itup.
So if you don't understand, thenyou're going to be made um a
valuable training video for somedepartments around you and
hopefully across the country.
Drop the two-party system saidthis is a little early.
It is.
It is.

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It's just, I didn't, you know, Ididn't have anything going on.
I'm gonna have to make somevideos to post later on, some
reels and stuff.
And by the time I do that, I tryto get a video out by 11, and
then I try to get another oneout by 3 p.m.
And then I try to get one moreout by six.
On a good day, I will get threevideos.
On a normal day, I get one, andon an okay, you know, better

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than all right day, I get two.
So is what it is.
I kept seeing you guys write GMsomething on the chat, and it
took me forever to figure outyou guys are talking about good
morning.
I'm like, general managerHarrison, general manager,
general manager Mr.
B.
I'm an idiot.
Uh looking at the Instagramchats, nothing really going on.

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I don't understand Instagram.
I'm gonna say this every time.
I basically do these morningchats in this vertical format
just for Instagram because ithas our biggest following.
So I'm like, well, that that'swho we should try to give a
little more love to, is where wegot the bigger following.
But you just don't get the loveon the lives.
It's uh YouTube and Facebook doreally well, LinkedIn does

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really well.
Uh Jason Connolly, 1981, saidpolice need to understand that
no matter what they do or howthey do their jobs, somebody
will be butthurt.
Yeah, it is a double-edgedsword.
So I got in this debate theother day about tickets.
I am not a ticket cop.
I don't, I'm not, you guys knowme.
I don't, I don't really, it'snot that I don't believe in

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writing tickets.
I do think that they have theirtime and place.
It's just that's not how Ichoose to focus my law
enforcement.
Um, when I was out in patrol, Iwasn't out running traffic or
doing anything like that.
I was looking for violentfelons.
Like that was my it's what Iwanted to go after was the
violent stuff, the stuff thathas a huge impact on people's

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lives.
So writing tickets for every oneof every person that hates a
ticket being written, there'sfive more Karen's and Darens
lined up that want cops outthere writing tickets and will
go to town hall meetings andlike, you guys don't do any
traffic enforcement here.
They're running stop signsthrough our neighborhood, flying

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around, they're doing this,they're doing that.
For every one of you guys thatsay cops shouldn't be out, you
know, gaining revenue for thecity and doing all that stuff,
which don't get me wrong, I Ibelieve in part of what you're
saying, there are there aredouble triple the amounts of of
people that want and demandtheir cops out doing that.
So that's something to consider.
Now, again, this all depends onwhere you live.

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There may be others, but I willtell you, in where I'm at,
that's the case.
They they are there are morepeople pushing for more traffic
enforcement than people that arenot.
Something to consider.
Um but yeah, Jason, you'reyou're uh you're right.
You're damned if you do, damnedif you don't.

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Doesn't matter.
Somebody's gonna complain aboutsomething.
Uh Lacey said, why don't copsuse the next, the net grab
thing, like a net gun?
Seems to work very well, verysafely.
Um, I think what you're talkingabout is the grappler, if we're
talking about during pursuits.
Um, I think it's catching on.
I know it's been around a whileand a lot longer than I knew.

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And I think the internet isfinally like pushing it more.
Excuse me, pushing it more.
So by them doing that, it's it'sgetting more popular amongst
departments.
I love it.
I think it's a cool, cool thing.
I thought I wish that I justlike having that option.
I like having that option.
So um drop the two-party system.

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Uh, I'm a senior engineer, not ageneral manager.
That's true.
Uh true, true.
More Karen's and Darens for surefrom now 1127.
Uh, if they were patrolling inthe right areas, it wouldn't be
so bad.
Listen, I'm gonna tell you this.
You could patrol in the highestcrime areas.

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It doesn't stop crime, itdoesn't stop crime.
I I know it makes people feelgood, and this is gonna be a
controversial uh point of viewthat I'm gonna give you.
But having 50 patrol cars outthere versus having 25 two-man
units, I think the 25 two-manunits will do more work for the

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city than 50 single car unitsout there.
And having 50 single car unitsout there, sure, it makes the
public feel good because theysee a lot more cops.
But criminals, real criminals, Ihave video.
I you guys remember I used to bea property crimes guy.
We have video after video aftervideo of guys doing hit and

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licks, doing BMVs, burglary andmotor vehicles.
They will watch a cop car go by,they'll duck down, hide, do
whatever they do, act nonchalantlike they weren't doing shit.
Once that car goes by, they giveit a few minutes and they're
right back to stealing, breakinginto cars.
So I'm glad you get the warmfeels, but more patrol doesn't

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do shit.
It doesn't.
Now it helps if it's static andif it's in in high dense areas,
like uh static police movementsat games, you know, stadium
games, bars, stuff like that,that helps.
It does quell things, and it iscool to have somebody right
there to respond, but havinghaving um cops just roaming

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around patrolling doesn't I'mI'm sorry.
I know it feels good, but itdoesn't help.
Um Ma Tuliet, I'm guessing howto say your name.
I'm new to your chat and Isupport law enforcement.
What made you decide to go intoit?
Um I hated cops.
I did not like cops growing up,not in Flint.

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Um, but then I also is a isagain, it's a double-edged
sword, just like being a cop.
I had a lot of family that wereeither in law enforcement, first
responder world, military.
So I wanted that family, Iwanted my family to respect and
be proud of what I did.
And I didn't know exactly what Iwanted to do.
I always said I wanted to be inlaw enforcement or military or

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something like that.
I think um when I startedgetting into my teens, um, truth
be told, I wanted to be a damnbaseball player.
That was my dream.
I wanted to be a pitcher for forthe Tigers.
And uh it didn't happen,obviously.
Um, but you know, life has a wayof being great hindsight.
And looking back now, I'm gladthat didn't happen.

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I I think I would have had avery uh it would have been fun,
but not fulfilling.
I think that's being a cop hasbeen very fulfilling to me.
So it was a good question.
Um, but yeah, I there's one ofthe things that made me want to
be a cop was you know, family.
The other thing that made methere's a bunch of factors.
Another thing that made me wantto be a cop, um, my grandfather

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was a firefighter, and I knew Ididn't want to do that because
of all the bad things that hesaw.
Uh and then lo and behold, hereI am as a cop, probably seeing
more worse stuff more often.
So um, but yeah, I had some badinteractions with cops as a kid

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that just made me not like them.
And then, you know, my dad saidyou can either be a part of the
problem, part of the solution.
He was a cop um down in Texas.
Uh and I lived with my mom.
And so I don't know, that stuckwith me.
And then when I started gettingolder, a little more mature,
just went for it.
No regrets.
I can hear my dogs fighting inthe backyard.

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Dropped the two-party system,said, I think that Matt Thornton
does outside of LEO work, reducehelps reduce crime more.
Uh, yes.
Oh, that's a fucking greatpoint.
That is a great point.
Yeah, if you want to help reducecrime, get out there and talk to
people that are in that worldand like what Matt Thornton does
with his as nonprofit is he goesout and deals with troubled

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young men.
Um, I don't know if he does menand women or girls and boys.
I don't know if he if it's theall-incomest, it's gangs, gang
stuff.
He helps out the gang youth andthe kids that are really
vulnerable, they don't havenecessarily the parenting in
their life and whatnot.
Yes, I truly believe that does alot more to help with crime, uh,
for sure.

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And I think what in the and thisis my way of trying to help with
crime and stuff, and and try toget cops to not um either in
intentionally or unintentionallycommit crimes with violating
people's rights.
Um, and and educate the publicbecause the public will try to
use cops as pawns and they don'trealize they're doing it.
I don't think they truly realizethat's what they're doing.

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Is uh, you know, so we the FirstAmendment audit stuff's the
easiest.
You know, they're filmingoutside your bank and you're
calling the cops and you wantsomething done.
Like you need to understand theconstitution and the law just as
much as the cops need to.
So I think that's what we'redoing with this.
It's just another way of tryingto help and do things in a
different way.
Um, big let me go make sure Ididn't miss any more chats.

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Um Big Bizzo, I think that's hisname.
Big Bizzo34.
He said, it's too profitable tostop crime.
It employ it employs too manypeople.
Um in a way, trust me, me as acop, if I could stop crime,
you're always gonna need cops.
If you believe that cops aren'tneeded at all, well, that's been

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proven completely a train wreck.
Look at that little fake citythey tried to make in Chaz, uh,
where they just people weregetting, you know, um essay'd
and all sorts of crazy nonsenseand then defund the police in
cities, they're all reversedthat.
Now they're like, no, actually,we probably need to give them
more money.
So um, if you're on thatextremist belief that cops

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aren't needed at all, well,there's really not a
conversation you are gonna havethat are going to meet in the
middle anywhere.
Um, but if you do believe policeare needed in some capacity,
well, then we have common groundwe can get down on.
So, like what Biz is saying is,you know, that crime is
profitable.
Well, it it's profitable forcriminals, and it yes, there is

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a profit to be made for citiesthat have to pay for the their
departments have to pay for alot of stuff.
So yeah, I see it both ways.
It's not a mutually exclusivething, but there's also a need
to stop crime.
So yeah.
And in the laws, that's that'swhere citizens need to make sure

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they're standing up and votingfor the laws they want and
getting laws that are made thatthey think are corrupt knocked
back down.
The power truly is in thepeople.
They just got to unite.
That's the hard part.
I can't get you fuckers to unitejust on a social media chat
online here.
Think of how hard it is to getcitizens in one city to do it.
Um Pallets Ready.

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I like that name.
Ways to help people in bettertraining to understand everyone
and everyone not the same.
Yeah, you're right.
Yeah, training is always a goodthing.
Um, Big Bizo34, he says, I'vebeen a cop for 24 years, and I
thought I was making adifference until you go to court
and see these attorneys and knowthe judge that you right, bro.
Right?
Oh, I try to say this all thetime.

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I love the accountability forcops.
I love that people push forthat.
And it it's always ticked thatway.
If you guys think about ithistorically, let's just go back
to Rodney King.
Like you guys wanted in-car dashcameras.
Boom, because of Rodney King, ithappened.
You guys, you know, go for it.
Fast forward to Michael Brown,even though it was a false
narrative and it turns out thestory was bullshit.
A really good push happened forbody cams out of that.

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So then we get body cameras.
You guys said that just ushaving a gun was too that was
too limited of options.
So, what did we get?
We got tasers, we got pepperspray, we got batons, all these
less than lethal options.
So every time you guys push andyou'd say you want your cops
this, that, it happens.
So things are getting betteralways with police work, but you

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know what the public doesn'toutcry for nearly enough?
It's checks and balances withprosecutors and judges.
I have seen more ego and morebullshit rulings from judges
that they don't like what you'rewearing.
They don't like that you rolledyour eyes, they don't like, and
all of a sudden they can throwyou in jail.
Come on now.
Like that that is a crazy power.

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And then cases getting dismissedbecause the DA is like, no, I'm
not gonna prosecute this one.
Like the discretion they have oncertain things.
Who's checking that stuff?
It's crazy.
It is crazy.
Um, ops for slayer.
I like that name too, because inthe military, every time you

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play the bad guy, you're opfour.
The opposing force.
That's what it really standsfor.
Playing op for in military gamesis a blast.
It's like ultimate hide and goseek with toys that hurt.
So it's fun.
Uh and yeah, even though I'm AirForce, I got to do that stuff.
I'm in one of the very few truemilitary sides of the Air Force.

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I'm security forces.
We're we're the we're the dumpedon infantry for the Air Force.
Um, let's see here.
What needs to change is not onlythe accountability of us, um
LEOs, but all but those judgesand lawyers.
Yeah, see, see, look, you guyshave other cops on here all
saying the same shit.

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Um and for those that are overon Facebook and YouTube, you're
like, where's he reading thesecomments from?
These ones are coming fromInstagram.
So I'm jumping on uh jumping onInstagram as well.
Um I'm going back.
Um oh look at you trying to thisson of a bitch.
I gotta ban somebody out of myTwitch.
He's over here trying to thereyou go.

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It's over here trying to spamstuff.
Um my opinion, Tasker.
Uh okay, I went way back.
So, in my opinion, the numberone priority to combat everyday
crime should be lower therecidivism rate.
Yep, that's a good one, too.
Um, people, for those that don'tknow what recidivism is, is

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that's just repeat offenderstrying to lower repeat offenders
going right back into thesystem.
Um with justice delivered focuson reintegration, then
punishment.
Yep, I agree.
Lacey said the way to lowercrime is to stop it yourself.
Yeah, that helps.
Community engagement.
I like it.
I will never um bash on thepublic trying to help.

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Um, if people do not toleratecrime, crime goes somewhere
else.
That's true.
It will relocate.
Good morning, Chief Turner,Ozark Mountain Ranch Rangers.
Thank you for what you do forthe community.
Thank you, buddy.
Uh Uncle Fatty, Unity, you and IT Y.
Come on.
Go a little old sky, old school.
Um, as one stands together.

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Uh, was that Queen Latifah thatsang that?
I don't remember.
Um, Mr.
Billfold, we need cops to knowtheir jobs well enough to
educate Karen's who try toweaponize them instead of just
flexing their authority.
Bam! That's the big one rightthere.
Educate.
I've said this a million times.
One of the ways that I love tohandle like First Amendment
auditing things when Karen callin is I take that opportunity to

(28:01):
say, okay, describe for me whatthey're doing after they tell
me, okay, well, what you'resaying is not against the law.
I want to let you know that itis a First Amendment right.
We do have a Supreme Court caseruling that says that people can
videotape like this.
And when they do that, um,that's all they're doing is just
flexing their First Amendmentright.
Um, I understand why it feelsintrusive.

(28:21):
Um, I'm not blaming you forfeeling that way.
Um, but just because we don'tlike it doesn't mean it's
illegal.
So you you take the time to andshow them like they can do this
from any public place.
Boom.
You've you've taken the time,you educate a little bit, and
um, now they learn, andhopefully they don't call back
and everybody around them intheir little network gets the
message.
Um Lacey said cops who know thejob are okay, but they are few

(28:46):
in my experience.
I don't think it's there's few,it's just a lot of them are
really bad at explaining it.
I think that's a part of it.
They just don't want to explainbecause they can't.
Um, like me, I I'll give Ialways use myself as an example.
Like there's times where I'veknown I know you broke the law.
I just don't know which lawspecifically it is.

(29:07):
Like um when I first got intoproperty crimes, if you've got
three credit cards or more, Ithink maybe it's two or more,
two or more credit cards thatdon't belong to you.
I know that that's a crime.
I just didn't know which one itwas.
I had to look it up.
So, and if he would have put meon what am I being arrested for,
I would have been able to tellyou.
I don't know what it is.
I gotta look it up.

(29:27):
I know it's against the law, butI can't explain it.
I hope that makes sense.
Um let's see.
My mom said that's a huge partof the problem.
Citizens get on social media andblame LEOs for everything
instead of using their brain andcommon sense by going to the
proper and the only ones thatcan change the law.
Uh, judges and prosecutors areequally bad.

(29:50):
Totally agree on the justicesystem from Greg Turner.
Need to do better.
Um, Heather Starr says, What'sup?
How's your morning?
It's going all right, Mr.
Bill Fole, we fool ourselvesinto thinking we can legislate
behavior.
Nah, you're just negative.
I'm positive.
You can legislate behavior,baby.
Come on.
Uh Uncle Fatty, body blue,raised arms.

(30:13):
Oh, uh, can't fix stupid.
This is true.
That is true.
Aerial boom.
There's never been a SupremeCourt ruling that the right to
record in public, most circuitshave recognized the right to
recur in public.
But let me see.
Let's see what the Googles hasto say.

(30:33):
Supreme court ruling on film.
Do they still use the word?
Umpe, you are right.
It isn't a Supreme Court.
It is circuit.
Well, fuck me.
I thought it was Supreme.
Point being, there's courtrulings.
Let's say it's a first event.

(30:54):
Right.
Thank you, Bomb.
I was wrong.
I fucked that up.
I thought for sure that it was aSupreme Court ruling.
I was wrong.
But there are circuit courts.
Um Deborah Bond.
I wouldn't expect the police toknow every law out there by

(31:16):
heart.
There's so many.
It's impossible to knoweveryone.
Yeah, absolutely.
And that's the other freakingcrazy part, is there are lawyers
and judges, right?
That they went, they went toschool for this, and this is
what they do every day.
They don't even know all thelaws.
And the ones that they'repracticing, uh, the lawyers are

(31:36):
practicing, they're usuallyspecialists, kind of like how a
doctor is a specialist.
Um, and even a prosecutor, theyhave to look up the laws and
figure out how they're going toargue in the favor of the
defendant doing said crime.
Uh, so they're having to know.
There's very few that they knowby heart.
Um, Mr.
Bill Fold said, I don't actuallythink cops are meant to prevent

(31:58):
crime.
They respond to crimes moreoften.
School programs would be moreeffective in preventing crime.
Crime is profitable for thejustice system.
Yep, I think you're right.
Um over to our Instagrams, makesure I didn't miss anything.
Uh this big, this country issoft on crime.
There should be more harshpenalties.

(32:23):
We got to be careful becausewhen we start getting too harsh,
we start to overlook too.
We start to overlook, and thenwe get guys like um Bruce Bryan,
you know.
Speaking of, Bruce and I arewe're we're in the chats behind
the scenes.
We're thinking about making a umkind of a life behind bars type
movie or show, not movie.

(32:44):
We want to talk about um we wantto talk about people that have
been in his situation and whatit was like in that transition.
Because your personality's gotto change when you go to prison.
So, in that transition of the,you know, what he did, because
he hit the ground running onself-improvement.
He's a different breed.
He's like um David Goggins ofgoing to prison.

(33:08):
So he just had a differentmindset.
And I would love to talk aboutthat with him.
And then I would love for him totalk to other people that have
gone through their situationsthat are similar to his and see
how they handled it.
Were they bitter?
Like I would assume most peopleare pretty just full of hate and
bitterness.
I would be.
If I was being wrong like that,knowing that I didn't commit a

(33:29):
crime that I'm being accused of,like, and only to find out 29
years later that you've beenabsolved of like, geez, oh
Pete's.
I'm hoping that cat wins a bunchof money, but as optimistic as I
am, for a lot of these casesthat I've heard where people
have been wrongly convicted,they the odds of getting paid

(33:50):
out are not the best.
Pallets ready.
Wrongly convict wrongconvictions are so common, which
is bad.
And I don't I can't speak onthat.
I don't I don't know that wetruly have any real research
that shows that.
Um does it does it appear likeit happens more of I mean just

(34:11):
one is too many.
We can agree on that.
But you know, there's there'sbeen perfect storm things that
have happened that people havebeen convicted on, and then
there's been people that havejust been grossly um abused by
the system.
And it it's not like we'remaking that up, we can show
examples of that.
Um Michael Riley, 2361, said thetruth is laws do prevent crimes,

(34:43):
but only sometimes.
After school prevention programsdo work, but only sometimes.
Yeah, yeah, that's fair.
That's a fair assessment.
A lot of things do help, butthey're not they're not the
end-all be all.
Um the truth is that people havelaw the people have lost control
of their government and themajority don't care.

(35:05):
Michael said, people are oftentoo different from each other.
Some people care about thefollowing the law, some don't.
Some people are more susceptibleto peer pressure than others.
Most of all, some people havesupport.
Yeah.
I think that's a good point.
Tasker, 6669 said, in myopinion, the direction of the
justice system took in the 80swith tough on crime or

(35:28):
punishment has led to nothingmore, nothing more crime are
committed.
Look to Europe opposite approachin the crime.
Yeah.
Yep.
I I so when we did talk to BruceBryan, one of the cool ideas
that they he is a part ofthrough Africa.
Um, I can't remember thecountries exactly, but they have

(35:51):
a rehabilitation program to getrid of the recidivism by school
programs with the guards, wherethe guards are teaching the
inmates like uh, I think a skilland all of that when they get
out.
But I think the guards' jobslike benefit from it somehow.

(36:13):
I it's like a mutuallybeneficial program for the
guards and for the inmates.
And I I think they said it'slowered the violence on on both
sides um like just a tremendousamount.
So I thought that was a coolidea.
Um, I think that's somethingthat we should be looking at for

(36:34):
over here.
Um, and that's another thingthat I want to have Bruce on
for.
I want to talk about um some ofthe shit that he saw because he
talked about a lot of corruptionin the with the CEOs, but he
also said there was a lot ofgood ones.
So um having that mindset thatthere still can be good ones
despite the bad ones, likethat's very it's encouraging,

(36:57):
it's inspiring, and it's mystyle of optimism, right, Mr.
Billfold.
You guys don't know this, but umMr.
Billfold and I, we've we'vebecome friends through the show,
and uh we'll call each other up,and uh he knows I'm a I'm a
super positive person, and heknows that he looks at things uh

(37:20):
in a different lens, uh usuallypretty negative.
And so, but but together when wetalk, we we tend to balance each
other out.
It's pretty cool.
So um, how do you feel about umlet me see?
Sorry, uh MA Tuliot um said, Howdo you feel about police shows
such as Live PD?
I know it's off topic, but justcurious.
Do they help people understandthe law enforcement side?

(37:42):
I don't know.
I I've only watched it a fewtimes.
It's a little um look, I'm acop.
I don't I don't want to sit andwatch other cops do cop stuff.
Even though what I do for theshow, for what I do here, I'm
doing that, but I'm doing itbased on education.

(38:03):
I want to be able to take a lawenforcement incident and use
that to educate in some form orfashion.
I don't feel like live PD'sdoing that.
If they do, they don't do itthat often.
It's more often or not, they'rejust telling you what the law
is.
Well, screw that.
I want to, I want to talk about,you know, why did this cop do
well?
How can we repeat that?

(38:24):
Here's what we do, you know.
I want to break it downeducationally a lot more.
Live PD doesn't do that, it'sjust a cop show.
It's like watching cops.
I loved cops when I was younger,but I'm not gonna sit around and
watch it.
Um, so I don't know.
I don't I don't know what arethey helping show cops in a
positive light?

(38:45):
I guess.
I don't know.
I think that's just more of anentertainment thing.
I think it's just people wantingto be entertained.
Um, and that's no knock on thoseguys.
I think they all know policework for sure.
I'd just saying for what you'reasking me, uh, does it help?
I I don't I don't know.
I don't know if that helps.
Bad guy's gonna do bad guythings, you know, cops gonna do

(39:08):
their thing, and then do youhonestly think they're gonna
show on live PD a cop doinganything other than proper
police work?
I I don't know.
I don't watch it enough.
I've only seen clips and stuff,but I I think education is how
we help.
That's why we do what we do.
Um just like they have a certainpercentage of convicted felons

(39:31):
that these private prisons havegoing.
Oh, yeah, don't get me going onthe private prison shit.
That is that is a mistake.
You shouldn't be privatizinganything with your law
enforcement with anything in thecriminal justice system.
You should not be privatizing,at least on the government side.
That is just opening the doorfor corruption.
Um, Deborah Bond said, What doyou think about requiring

(39:53):
18-year-old kids to join themilitary for at least one tour?
That would help Oh, fuck yeah.
I I've I've actually taught, Ithink you should have to do two
years in the military.
I I like the mandatory turn 18,two years in the military.
Absolutely.
I wish they would have had thatfor me.
How can we fund more rehab injails and prisons when we can't

(40:16):
agree on how to fund ourschools, not with my tax money
when the military eats 17million a day?
Yeah, that's true.
Yep.
David Edmondston in the housesaid, uh, William Blackstone in
commentaries on the laws ofEngland, 1769.
Blackstone wrote, the law holdsthat it is better than 10 guilty

(40:37):
persons escape than one innocentsuffer.
Yeah.
See, some deep shit.
They simply need to stop hiringcriminals to be cops.
I don't think they'renecessarily hiring criminals to
be cops.
Um, I think they hire people andthen they they turn into
criminals sometimes.
That happens.

(40:58):
But I don't, it's pretty easy todo a criminal background check.
Um if they don't have aconviction, they don't have a
conviction.
With that said, it is, I haveheard of hold on, now that I
think about it.
Now that I think about yourcomment, Lacey, if we did that,
Matt Matt Thornton wouldn't be,wouldn't be a cop.

(41:22):
So no, I don't agree with you.
Got you, Matt.
You're my boy.
I agree with Ross Perot.
This country should be ran likea corporation, a nonprofit
corporation.
I like that, Uncle Fatty.
Um, no, you can criminalizebehavior, but you cannot
legislate behavior.

(41:42):
Not even God, the people.
Oh, okay.
I see what you're saying.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
My bad.
I just misunderstood, Mr.
Buffold.
Um, yeah, okay.
Let me show let me show anothervideo here.
Um which one?
Okay, we just showed this one.
Oh, okay.
Let me give you the backstory onthis one before we show it.
This somebody sent me a video ofa magnet fisherman.

(42:05):
Now, I follow a ton of magnetfishermans because I just I like
it, I like the content, it'sfun.
And uh then I then you know youcan always tell the people that
are fake magnet fishing.
I don't follow those people.
Um, but I truly ran across onethat I didn't I didn't know who
it was.
The video was sent in as a shortclip, which is the clip I share.
And it bel just before I posted,because I'd already made my

(42:28):
reaction and everything, butjust before I posted it,
somebody hit me up and goes, Oh,that's Danny Dip.
Um, and I said, Oh, okay.
Well, let me give that guycredit.
So um Danny Dip uh is who it is,and then he actually reached out
and he he kind of he was alittle mad at me for sharing his
video and not asking permission.

(42:50):
I was like, Well, bro, I didn'tknow who you were, and I didn't
know at the time like who toeven ask, and I was already in
the process of going putting iton the internet, so I added the
overlay of you know, credit toDanny Dip.
But I apologize again, sir.
That was not that was not theintent.
Um, and you know, you know, youseem cool with it afterwards,

(43:11):
but uh yeah, my bad.
That's not what I try to do.
If I can give I give credit toevery auditor's video that we
try to put out there and allthat stuff.
So um, but yeah.
So I I I made this video of thismagnet fisherman, and I got a
part of it wrong too.
I was also some clarificationsbecause initially it was told to
me that they found a firearm,but it turns out it was like a

(43:34):
some sort of bomb.
It was um, I don't know whatkind, some sort of bomb.
Um, live unexploded ordnance,we'll put it that way.
So it makes it even more crazy.
But now I'm gonna share thisvideo.
You can watch it and then we'lldiscuss because it did get quite
the uh reaction.
Is this the right one?
Yep, that's the right one.

(43:54):
We're gonna share.
All right, it made me little guydown there and play.
Throw this in the garbage can.

SPEAKER_02 (44:02):
I understand that, but you're taking resources away
from the city of Pongla everysingle time you guys do this.

SPEAKER_00 (44:09):
Never had city worker get mad for us finding
something to play.
I just wanted to Okay, so youcan see there, I'm gonna stop
sharing.
We weren't even talking about afirearm.
And initially, and that's when Imade my reaction.
I thought it was on a firearm.
We're talking about unexplodedordinances.
This could hurt a fisherman, itcould hurt a lot of people.

(44:31):
I don't, I don't know exactlywhere they found it, but and
then like that is they said thecity of Fundula.
I don't know where that at,where that's at, but I'm gonna
assume it's a department that'stiny.
I can't picture that there's awhole lot of city resources that
need to be available, uh, nooffense to fundula, but this is

(44:55):
just lazy cop behavior.
This is, I don't want to dealwith this, so I'm going to make
you feel bad about me having todo my job.
For you doing, and this isanother thing to the magna
fishermen um out there.
All of the ones I follow, theyare pulling track, they're not
throwing it back in the water,they're disposing of it.

(45:16):
They actually do a communityservice and you get entertained
by it.
So for me, let's see if I canlounge my chair back.
My back's hurting.
So for me seeing this, oh yeah,this is way more comfy.
Um, for me seeing this, I justget so irritated because I've
seen cops like this.

(45:36):
And you can tell, they will sitthere and bullshit with you for
the next 45 hour and a half totry to talk you out of doing a
police report so they don't haveto do any paperwork.
When they would have just beendone with the call had they
taken the information and donewhat they were supposed to

(45:57):
within 45 minutes.
So the time it takes for them totalk themselves out of having to
do the call, they would havebeen done with it.
Um insane to me.
Let me go back over to theInstagram chat, see if I missed
anything.
Um Pallets ready.
He said, just like they have acertain percentage of convicted

(46:19):
felons, these private purseprisons.
Oh, we already read that one.
My bad.
Um Fondu Lock, Wisconsin.
Ah.
Greg Allen said Fondu, probablyFondu Loc, Wisconsin.
Do me a favor.
Pull up.
I'll do it.
I'll do it myself.
I'm not gonna make you work.

(46:40):
I got the time.
Let me look this up.
I was already looking up SupremeCourt and so Fon Dulac
Wisconsin.
Wisconsin police size.
They have a total of forty-fourofficers.

(47:04):
Yeah, forty-four officers forpopulation of forty-four
thousand people as of twentytwenty-five.
Oh no, no, no, that's right.
That's not right.
The pop oh yeah, the populationis approximately 44,000.

(47:28):
The county, the county has ahundred and four thousand.
So forty-four thousand people.
I would say you're not having awhole lot of calls.
If I were to guess.
Um, but uh when you have a bombcall like this, that's a lot of

(47:49):
resources.
It really is.
Now you gotta call EOD out, yougotta call um fire, you gotta
you know, set up a cordon aroundit.
It's all sorts of things thatyou gotta do.
For me, I would look at that asmore of a fun call.
Um, but the nerve to try to getupset at these guys for doing a

(48:11):
public service.
It is a public service.
They they I think they getfixated on the fact that they're
doing it for social media stuffbecause they're taking their fun
hobby and now they're justputting a video to it.
That's all there is, and they doa good job.
Um, Danny Dip does a great job.
I love his stuff.
Uh once I found out who he was,I started looking him up.

(48:34):
He's not one of the, he doesn't,he does it legit.
He doesn't go around plantingstuff in the water and pulling
it up.
He does it the right way.
Um, there's another one calleduh All My D or D All My D,
something like that.
I follow those, I call themkids, follow those guys as well.
Um, they're fun to watch.

(48:56):
So uh yeah.
Let me go back over here to thecomments.
Can you guys tell me the statelaw that says I have to get out
of my car for officer safety?
Pennsylvania v.
Mims isn't law, it's a courtopinion.
Yeah, that's what we go off ofof court opinions.
That's the Supreme Courtopinion.

(49:18):
So you have to get out of thecar.
Now, we've talked about this atnauseum on here.
I believe Pennsylvania v.
Mims to be based on a safetyconcern that you can articulate.
However, it has been sobastardized through court
decisions and circuit courtlevels that it really don't need

(49:39):
anything other than to say thatthey need you to get out of the
car for safety.
It can be that fucking blanketof a statement.
I don't agree with that.
Anytime I've ever flexedPennsylvania v.
Mims, I've had a articulablereason why.
And I've listed that.
I think that should be thestandard, but it's currently
not.
It's currently not.

(50:00):
So uh Supreme Court decisions,case law.
That's what it's called.
Case law.
It's not a it's not just anopinion, it's case law.
So because it's case law, it iswhat it is.
I kind of I can see myself onthe camera, so I felt like I
looked like uh what's that?
Shane, Shane Gilliam when hedoes that look.

(50:24):
That's what I felt like rightthere.
Uh Shane Gillis, is that hisname?
I don't remember his name.
He's awesome though.
Uh what if children decided togo swimming in the river and
found it?
That'd be devastating.
Right, right.
But that attitude that she had,I'm sorry, you got me going down
another thing.
That attitude that she had is isunreal.

(50:46):
You're mad that you had to work.
That's what that is.
You're mad you had to work.
Looking over at Instagram,nothing new on Instagram.
Um, Mr.
Billfold said, I was threatenedwith arrest for giving our
little Caesars to the homelessdowntown on the Riverwalk.
Doing a public service means.
Yeah, I've seen that too.

(51:08):
People set up um little tablesand they're giving out to the
homeless.
And I like, unless it's causinga traffic hazard, like I've seen
that where it's just cars arestopped.
You're like, come on, guys.
I don't mind that you're givingfood out to the homeless or
whatever you're gonna do.
You just don't block traffic.
Don't let's let's have a littlecommon courtesy.

(51:31):
Um Mr.
Bill Fold said it is the pin v.
Mem's decision, but the lowercircuits are making decisions to
go against the Supreme Court'sdecision.
Uh the tyrant officer use andabuse the language of the law.
That's everybody, brother.
I I don't know why you thinkthat that's just the law
enforcement thing.
That's everybody.

(51:51):
Your defense attorney is goingto use and abuse the law to
defend you, the prosecutor'sgonna use and abuse the law to
get a prosecution, um and copsare going to test the limits of
laws to try to catch bad guys.

(52:15):
Oh, I'm sorry.
You guys are having a littleside combo.
There used to be standards.
What happened to those?
Can you explain what happenedthere?
Two cops won't do it.
Standards of what?
Give me something specific.
Um, the Don Dunpeel said, um,thank you to whoever gifted me a

(52:36):
membership.
Yeah, more than likely it wasHarrison.
More likely it's the two-partysystem or Brand R86.
We got some regulars that thatdonate to the page quite
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(56:12):
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(56:33):
If you like the SecondAmendment, they hide guns in
Hawaiian type shirts and popculture shirts.
Uh very cool.
And they don't wrinkle.
Put them in your suitcase, throwthem in there, and get them out.
They don't wrinkle.
So, but uh, what got me downthat tangent?
We're talking about memes,standards.
Um, oh, to become an LEO.

(56:55):
Well, that's the thing, is everyyou gotta think, you've got
18,000 separatejurisdictions-ish, approximate.
That's the number of lawenforcement agencies around the
nation.
And there is no standardizedpolicing.
You don't want federallystandardized policing.
I think there are some thingsthat you do want a standard

(57:15):
across the board on.
I think use of force should beone of those, but we'll never
come to that agreement becausewhat we do in Texas, they're
never going to agree with inCalifornia.
And what they do in California,we're never going to agree with
in Florida and all of that.
Um Marine Bud, why don't youever warn your mods when you're
going live?

(57:36):
My bad.
I get so fixated on settingeverything up.
I forget.
My bad.
Um, but yeah, standards.
Some departments can't afford tohave the same standards.
They're having so much troublejust getting officers to the
department, they have to lowerthe standards.
All these defund the policecities.

(57:57):
Look at NYPD.
I think they're fucked for awhile.
But my dogs are fighting againoutside.
Um they don't, that whateverthat new guy, mayor's name or
governor Mata Dewami, or what Idon't follow the news that well,
guys.
But whoever that dude is, itmade a bunch of cops bounce like

(58:18):
5,000 quid overnight or someshit like that.
That is not a recoverablenumber.
That's gonna create such anaccordion effect that they're
gonna be screwed for years.
I don't know what that guy did,but they don't like him over
there.
So um, so now what do you thinkthe standards of hire are gonna
be?
You think they're gonna beharder?
Or do you think they're gonna belower?

(58:42):
It all goes on needs, guys.
It's going to get lower forsure.
David Edmondson said, pleasedon't type in all caps.
David, I think you're just goingto encourage the people to type
in all caps.

(59:03):
Uh he said, sorry.
That's what the mods will alwayssay on agenda-free TV.
Maureen, I am a mod.
I'm a heap big man.
I'm special.
I talk in all caps if I want.
Uh Deborah Bond said, NYC istoast.
Ugh.
That's what it sounds like.

(59:25):
I don't know.
I don't really, again, I seeenough negative stuff at work.
For those that understand what Ido at work now, you really know
that I see nothing.
I'll give you some perspective.
Okay, so in a city of let's saya million calls for service
every six months.
Um, I don't remember if thatstat was a million calls a year

(59:46):
or a million calls every sixmonths or something like that.
It's probably a million everysix months, considering we have
1.2 million people where I'm at.
Anyway, with that amount ofcalls, one officer in themselves
out in patrol, they're onlygonna see, I don't know.
I'm guessing, but uh from mytraining experience here, I

(01:00:08):
would say two to three likereally bad calls a week if
they're out there reallyworking.
I work in a real-time crimecenter where I'm streaming
officers' body cams, I'mstreaming their dash cameras,
I'm streaming Air One, thehelicopter that goes around, I'm
streaming the drones that weuse.

(01:00:29):
I get to see all of it.
Um, my operators, they seeeverything way more than me,
because I only come in on thebad calls, the really bad calls.
But there's we're seeing thatstuff across the city.
You're not just one cop on onecall, you're all the cops on all
the calls all day long.
So you see the worst of theworst.

(01:00:50):
One of the worst things I'veseen recently is the dude's just
set himself on fire at aWalmart.
Like, so you see some bad shit.
And then I do this, and part ofwhat I do is I have to watch
cops doing bad stuff, have towatch cops doing good stuff, uh,
and make reaction videos on it,try to do some sort of
educational thing, and then Ijump on here and I talk to you
guys.
Um, and you got videos that yousend to me and you want me to

(01:01:12):
see, and all that stuff.
So I am constantly beinginundated with negative shit.
So I don't watch the news, Idon't watch any more negative
stuff than I have to.
I try to try to keep a positiveattitude.
It's very easy to become jadedin this career field, trying not
to be that dude, you know?
Um so Ryland Ryan Ryland RyanLand, I can't say his name.

(01:01:36):
Ryan, 6849.
He says, Hey, good morning.
What's up, brother?
Uh Tasker said, Are youinterested in expat living in
Germany?
Comparison prison crime.
I don't know.
Oh, are you interested?
I don't know what that's sayingthere, Tasker.
Rephrase that question.

(01:01:56):
And yes, I can make the heap bigman joke since my wife is a
Native American.
I have Chippewa in my blood.
Um but yeah, going through, allright.
I think we've successfullyexhausted that video.

(01:02:17):
Let's uh let's go to the next.
Point being, Fondu Lak, you needto do better.
Um oh, and people ask, do Ithink she needs to be fired?
And all that no, I don't thinkthat listen, y'all's cancel
culture is just way too crazyfor me.
Um there's times when I thinksomebody needs to be fired very

(01:02:39):
easily, it's very apparent, butfor almost everything, I think I
break it down this way Was whatthey did so egregious that we
can't learn from it and fix it?
If it's a yes, then they getfired.
If it's a no, And we work withit.
We try to fix it.
So um, alright, let's go to thisvideo here.

(01:03:04):
Mr.
Sweatland's on.
What's up, Banny?
He's like, Levine, you went livewithout me.
Sorry, brother.
It was early and I just wantedto jump on.
Um let me see here.
We need to share the screen.
Okay.

(01:03:27):
Oh, Marine Blood, I appreciatethat, sir.
He said, do you like the showand have some extra money?
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Fund I can't get it to pop up onthe screen.
Fund my 1200% pay raise bydonating here.
Yes, it does help, guys.
I do want to put that out there.
Um, we don't sit here and begfor money on our show, but we do

(01:03:49):
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feel free to click on that linkor go to our YouTube channel and
uh help support with yourhard-earned dollars.
We do appreciate that.
Nothing goes in our pockets, itall goes into the show.

(01:04:09):
Um, so we can do this stuff.
I'm trying to get banning andI'm trying to get Matt Thornton
cameras like these.
So that's the next step.
I gotta get them to somecameras.
Um, so the title of this is DidDid He Deserve a Ticket or Was
This Ego?
So I'm gonna hit play.

SPEAKER_03 (01:04:37):
If you like to be a good idea, you work this.

SPEAKER_00 (01:05:36):
Somebody asked me to do a reaction video.
All right.
So I'll start off with thepositive.
The one thing that I like whatthis officer uh was able to do
is he didn't give an attitudeback.
He stayed professional the wholetime.
But it is of my opinion thatthat was an ego ticket right
there.

(01:05:56):
He did not like, for whateverreason, this guy having an
attitude about uh being pulledover, which I'm sorry, you're
only gonna get a coupledifferent reactions when you
pull people over.
They're either super apologeticand just they don't want nothing
to do with the cops, you know.
Um, you get people to get upsetlike this, and that's okay too.

(01:06:17):
And then you get people that arejust you know scared.
Um, so out of all of thosereactions, like it's an
emotional reaction that peopleget, and it's understandable,
and you need to understand thatthat just the uniform and the
lights in itself are going tocause people to not act how they
normally would.
So because this guy dropped hisID or whatever it was, obviously

(01:06:41):
something changed his mind.
He gave the citation, uh, thewarning.
He gave the warning.
Um, and to go back and changethat is crazy.
Oh, what in the hell is my TVdoing?
Get off my TV.
That was weird.
Um so he so him writing that,him writing the warning and then

(01:07:09):
retrieving it, now the somebodyasked me, and I didn't I never
thought of this.
I don't I don't know what theruling would be.
I don't know.
This is something that would beinteresting to see in court is
the warning was written.
It was a digital printout.
So unless new information comesto light, facts of the case, the

(01:07:32):
stop was pretty much over.
So how do you justify going backinto somebody's vehicle,
grabbing their property, andtaking it from them and then
going back and writing a ticket?
I think you have a very goodargument for that being
unlawful.

(01:07:53):
I don't know.
I don't know.
Again, I'm not a lawyer, um, andI'm not an attorney for
anything.
I don't have thosequalifications.
I'm just a dumb street cop.
Uh, so I can tell you right now,I don't know what the rule is on
that.
I don't know.
I've never seen anybody do that.
I've never even heard of anybodydoing that.
So I don't know.
I don't know.

(01:08:14):
I think you have a very goodargument that that stop was
complete.
So, and then how do you defendyourself?
I always look at how would Idefend myself in court?
And what makes me lean towardsit being an ego thing versus
facts of the case is what madeyou write the warning?
That's one of the questions thatI would want to.

(01:08:34):
Well, I wrote the warningbecause when I looked up their
history, they didn't have ahistory.
Um I looked at the traffic.
The traffic wasn't bad.
Um, they didn't, they didn't,their action didn't appear to
put anybody in danger.
These are facts that I look for.
These are what I look for whenI'm when I'm deciding to write a
ticket.
Like, you know, did you dosomething?

(01:08:54):
Did you do something soegregious that it put people in
danger and that I wouldn't domyself?
Like speeding through a schoolzone, that's an easy one for me.
I will write that ticket almostevery single time.
Um but so I like to see whattheir history is.
I like to see um the you know,the totality of what just
happened, you know.
They okay, they were speeding,but did it affect anybody?

(01:09:15):
No, it didn't affect anybody.
All right, just give them more.
Hey, bro, slow it down.
Like there's a ton of copsrunning radar through here, you
know.
Just do that.
Have a nice day.
Um, but their attitude, and uhIzzo actually kind of changed my
mind on this whole thing.
Like, um, I never really thoughtabout it, but their attitude
shouldn't come into account forany of it.

(01:09:36):
So when you have to go back andsay, well, why did you decide to
write the ticket?
Now you got to articulate whyyou wrote it.
And good luck trying to provethat you wrote it based on the
facts because you already hadall the facts.
You wrote a warning and thendecided to change your mind
based on what?
Nothing new happened other thanattitude.
Would any reasonable and prudentperson believe that you wrote

(01:09:57):
that ticket based on the factsof the case versus the emotional
side?
So I don't think they would.
Um Mike Cucumber said, Eric, itwould 100% be unlawful, but jury
would likely give a smallpayout.
Um David Ladner said, Oh, is herelated to Steve?
I agree.

(01:10:17):
Him reaching is unlawful.
Um the warning is issued.
He gave Mr.
Billfold said the warning wasissued, he gave the ID back, the
stop was over, he needed a newreason to seize his ID again.
Hey, I agree with that.
I agree with that.
That's why I said I think it'sguys, just because this is

(01:10:37):
something to consider when wehave these conversations too.
Just because you say it'sunlawful, and just because I say
it's probably unlawful, itdoesn't mean that a good defense
attorney on the same subjectcan't make a great argument of
why it's lawful.
I'm just it's I'm I'mchallenging your brain to think

(01:11:00):
both sides.
Both sides of it.
Because as a cop, that's what wehave to think about all I think
we should be thinking about allthe time.
Because just because you seesomebody commit a crime on the
books, and I'm air quoting, justbecause you see it doesn't
necessarily mean you got to dosomething enforcement action.
So we need to be looking at bothsides as well.

(01:11:20):
So just because, you know, wedon't we gotta think both sides.
Let me just I'll put it that I'mgonna just talk myself into a
hole.
Um, but yeah.
Uh Uncle Fatty said previouscriminal history is not supposed
to be a factor in the newcharges, though.
That's that no, that's not true.

(01:11:42):
So um Uncle Fatty is asking ifprevious charges come into a
factor.
No, that that's for when they'resentenced in court.
But absolutely it's a factor.
If I if I pull you over and Isee you've got, you know,
speeding after speeding afterspeeding, I'm writing you a
ticket.
You're not learning your lesson,um, and you're still continuing

(01:12:04):
to do the behavior that you'renot supposed to be doing.
So now if you had ticket afterticket after ticket, and then I
see, you know, uh a whole yeargap since the last time you were
pulled over or two years orwhatever it is, well I'm be
like, all right, hey man, youhad a good run.
Maybe this is your wake-up call.
I'm not gonna write you take,I'm gonna give you a warning.
So these are all factors basedon fact.

(01:12:27):
It's not based on emotion, it'sbased on what we see in front of
us.
Um and what did uh I just sawone that wanted well, we did see
uh this is from the Don Dunpeel.
We did see that one video of anofficer reaching to retrieve the
driver's gun, realize he messedup and put it back.

(01:12:48):
It was just a yeah.
Yeah, that was a bad.
I remember that one where hejust opened the well, we might
be thinking of different ones.
I did see one where he's like,Well, I'm gonna he just opens
the door, he's like, I'm gonnaretrieve your gun and make sure
it's not stolen and all thisshit.
I'm like, what in the fuck?
Yeah, that was an illegalseizure.
Um, Eric, it is a clearlyestablished, it is clearly

(01:13:10):
established.
It has been settled due to copswriting warnings and then asking
to search a vehicle.
The case law is out there.
Um again, Mr.
Billfold, cool.
You're making an argument.
I'm with you.
You're making a good argument,but that doesn't mean it's
clear.
It doesn't mean it's it doesn'tmean somebody here, for example,

(01:13:30):
I will just give you uh just anargument I'm making up off the
top of my head is that I stillhave my lights initiated.
I had not said goodbye.
I did not use any sort ofcommunication indicating that my
stop was over.
I was still in the process ofdeciding if I was gonna write
the ticket or not.
Uh, and last second I decided tochange my mind.

(01:13:53):
That's a fair argument.
Or um something that I hadn'tconsidered suddenly popped in my
head.
I'm like, oh, I forgot to thinkabout this factor and changed my
mind to write the ticket.
Doesn't I I mean, I don't knowif that's true.
We don't know if that's true,but that could be an argument.
He's still at the door, hedidn't leave, the contact was

(01:14:16):
still going on.
Uh one could reasonably arguethat the stop wasn't over.
There's reasonable doubt.
Just saying.
It's possible.
With that said, again, Mr.
Bill Fole, before you lose yourshit, it's just an argument.

(01:14:37):
It's just an argument.
Um he says, no, I agree.
Nothing is clearly established,at least if the disfavors if it
disfavors police, right?
Um again, on clearly establishedstuff, it has to be it has to be

(01:14:59):
exactly like it was in theprevious court decision, because
that's how cops get away withthe uh qualified immunity
immunity argument all the time.
Is it wasn't the case didn'texactly look at the same formula
as this other case, which isdumb.
That's why it needs to be uhadjusted.
Two cops when donut the LEOtaking the gun and the LEO

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taking the ID the second timeare the same.
No, it's not.
It's not.
I have a right to your ID on atraffic stop.
I don't have a right to get inand seize your weapon.
It can be argued that the ticketstill is uh in custody of the
officer until the stop isofficially over.

(01:15:43):
Again, I'm just I'm plaindevil's advocate.
I still agree with you guys.
So fucking relax.
I still agree.
Uh Mike uh Marine Blood said,Mike, good point.
That should be a considerationas well.
But some people but someoneshould be more mindful of the
speed and surroundings.

(01:16:05):
I guess I missed one.
Still cannot breach the plane ofthe window.
That constitutes a search viabreach.
I think you're right.
I think you're right on that.
I think you're right.
Yeah, yeah, I think you're righton that.
I believe you're right.

(01:16:25):
That's a good point.
I like that point.
Um wouldn't have he had to askfor the ID back.
I again, guys, by him putting itin the car or get handing it
over to that guy, you know, uhthat's why I said I agree.
I I think there's a very goodargument, and I'm on that side

(01:16:47):
of I don't think you can reachback in and grab that stuff.
I'm with you.
But I wouldn't be doing mymission if I didn't bring up the
other side and try to challengethat line of thinking.
So um how can I be wrong when Iagree with you, Harrison?

(01:17:12):
You asshole?
I'm not wrong.
There's no right answer.
You'd have to go to court forthat.
That's who decides who's right.
There's a better argument, andI'm with you on that side of the
argument.
Um police stole a thousanddollars in one case, but the

(01:17:34):
next case they stole fivethousand, not clearly
established.
See, see um Heffin All right,let me try this.
Heffen Heffen Hefflinizer.
Hefflinizer, got it.
Hefflinizer on Instagram said agun is personal property, a
license is a privilege that canbe revoked.

(01:17:55):
Must have a really good reasonto take a gun off someone other
than safety.
Yeah.
Uh agreed.
Um Eric, we were Marine Bloodsaid, Eric, we were discussing
speed limits, and if someoneshould be given a ticket if they
are 20 over.
Um You are the one who said itwas not the same.

(01:18:20):
I don't know what we're talkingabout anymore, Harrison.
Oh but uh yeah.
Yeah, speed limits over 20.
Look, speeding's speeding.
Now, if you're doing somethingthat's reckless, if you're doing
20 over in the fast lane andyou're not riding somebody's ass

(01:18:42):
or anything like that, likeyou're not ticket.
But if you're doing 20 plus andyou're weaving in and out of
traffic and cars are you knowjerking around trying to avoid
you or you're causing otherpeople to react to your high
speed, well now we're borderingsome sort of criminal.

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But for the most part, likespeeding is speeding, like it's
just a ticket.
Marine Blood.
Do you enjoy the show anddiscussion in the chat?
Join our Discord.
Yeah, please join our Discord,guys.
Um, there is a lot more behindthe scenes that happens in our

(01:19:25):
Discord than anywhere else.
We're constantly dropping photosthat we don't put anywhere else,
videos that we don't putanywhere else.
We have good discussions onthere that don't go anywhere
else.
Our Discord truly is its ownlittle fishbowl, um, which is
really good, good stuff.
Um Mike Cucumber said, Eric, Iagree with that sentiment on
speeding.
Yeah, guys, it's like again, I'mI'm out for violent crime and

(01:19:51):
stuff that where you'revictimizing other people.
Like that's that's the stuffthat I really tend to lean into.
Um, like we had that lady that Iposted the video of her speeding
going 101 with her kids in thecar, not seat belted in, just
roaming around.
She's got a suspended license.
The person with them's got asuspended license.
Um, no insurance on the car.

(01:20:13):
Like, no, fuck every bit of you.
You're going to jail, towing thecar because you don't deserve to
have a car.
And I am going to call CPSbecause and people are like,
well, CPS does more harm thangood.
Like, listen, in some cases, Idon't have another outlet.
And in my experience with CPS,it's been the worst of the

(01:20:38):
worst.
And I don't believe that thosekids went into a worse situation
afterwards.
I believe they went to a reallygood situation.
So um, but I do anytime I havecalled CPS, I have followed
through with my cases to becauseI care about that stuff.
Um, and I know a lot of copsthat do the same exact thing.
They follow up on the kid cases.

(01:21:00):
Um, dropped a two-party system,said two cops went on.
I got off with doing 35 plus,but there was no traffic.
The stop lasted like one minute.
Yeah, that's the type of stops Ido.
You just pull them off and belike, bro, relax, slow down.
Or sorry, all right, have a goodday.
I don't need your ID, nothinglike that.
Take off.
Um and if you're driving like asupercar, Corvette, you know,

(01:21:23):
sports car and stuff like that.
Like, I get it.
I get it, guys.
Marine Blood said, 100%, Mike,and that's why if you wear a
Grinch costume and going 20over, you should get arrested.
But if you wear a Santa Clausoutfit, you should get a
warning.
Yeah.
There's actually a really goodpicture of me arresting the

(01:21:45):
Grinch.
Arresting, I say, with airquotes.
It was a photo op for the Grinchat a taco truck.
So if you guys 10 points towhoever finds that photo and
sends it to us on our Discord.
Um what you're getting at.
Uncle Fatty said, what you'regetting at is the officer always

(01:22:07):
has a pre-figured excuse thatcan be used to muddy the gray
area with reasonable audibleplausibility.
Fair.
So bribe the police with gifts.
No, but I like tacos.

(01:22:27):
Just saying.
Oh, bearded Tim's in here.
What's up, Tim?
Let me go over to Instagram.
He joined on Instagram as well.
Checking out our Instagram.
Guys, we need to figure out howto get the Instagram lives
popping.
They're not popping.
They are doing a little better.
We're floating around five toten people.

(01:22:49):
But we just can't keep peopleinterested on Instagram.
I think, I just don't think it'sthe platform for lives.
Or maybe not for my live.
Maybe that's the problem.
It's not uh doesn't hit thatniche.
So let me go to another videohere.
We already did that one.
Okay.
Oh, it's the yeah.

(01:23:10):
Well, let's just do this oneanyway.
We just talked about it.
I didn't realize I had that oneloaded up.
We will share the screen.
By the time you shut up, Tim,I'm on YouTube.
Would you like me to go to IG?
Here we go.

SPEAKER_02 (01:23:38):
At least one.

SPEAKER_00 (01:23:40):
I'm gonna pause it real quick and just recognize
that Cap Cut has really uppedthe AI game for these beats that
I put on my my videos.
Because some of these beats behitting hard, and I was like, oh
shit, like this could be youknow, M M could do a song to
this one.
Anyway, let's keep going.

SPEAKER_02 (01:24:37):
Okay, uh very difficult.
101 miles an hour.

SPEAKER_00 (01:24:42):
Nobody's got a valid license, they've got so i
important distinction to seewhat this cop just did here.
And this is something that doesget overlooked by people not in
law enforcement, is he ran hername on the computer and it
showed that her license issuspended.
But the checks and balancessystem that this department has,
which is really good, is heconfirmed he called what we call

(01:25:07):
PIC.
Um, basically, um, they're theones that are looking at the
NCIC stuff, and they will doublecheck to make sure that the
system is up to date and thatthat person is currently
suspended.
So they're getting the mostup-to-date information and not
just relying on that quick checkthat the officer did in the car

(01:25:29):
on his computer.
So that's who he's talking to onthe radio, and that's when that
lady said, Yeah, she's soshowing very suspended.
So it's pretty cool.
I like that he's doing that.
Uh, I really wonder how manykids are in that car for the
fact that he said, I see uh twoof them have seat probably have
seat belts on.
So, how many kids are in thiscar?

(01:25:49):
But yeah, let's keep going.

SPEAKER_02 (01:25:51):
Kids unrestrained from three years and up, and now
she's wanted to at this time youare gonna be placed in custody.

SPEAKER_00 (01:26:03):
Now I know I give traffic.
All right, so let's get thestupid face off of here.
There we go.
Um, yeah.
I I, you know, and you can seethe he even says, I'm irritated.
Like you can tell, yeah, he'sirritated, he's pissed off.
It's hard not to when it's kidsinvolved, especially if you're a

(01:26:23):
parent.
And if you're not a parent,you've never been a parent,
you're like, oh, parents alwayssay that.
Yeah, shut the fuck up until youhave kids.
Because it literally chemicallychanges you.
I don't know why, I don't knowhow, but it happens the instant
that kid pops out.
At least it did for me, andevery parent that I know uh says

(01:26:44):
the same thing for all you that,oh, my animals are my kids, and
you've never had a kid, shut up.
Shut your mouth.
You don't shock him out.
Uh yeah.
So anyway, um, I would have doneall of those things, and I agree
with him.
I agree with him on that.
Uh, Eric, come be the sheriff inmy county.

(01:27:06):
If they don't pay enough,brother.
They do not pay enough, Ipromise you.
I don't know any uh I don't knowanybody that pays enough to be a
sheriff.
Instagram is chock full ofbootlickers, just like the Tic
Tac.
Come on now.
I don't like the I don't I don'tlike some of these blanket terms

(01:27:27):
y'all use.
Bootlickers, I don't like that.
Tyrant, I don't like that.
Uh, you know, and that goes forthe thin blue line side too.
Don't get me wrong.
Look, I'm gonna give you bothsides love.
Like all, you know, God blessthe peacekeepers, blah, blah,
blah, blah.
Like, look, don't say thatunless you know the cop.
You know, all cops are heroes.

(01:27:49):
No, they're not.
They're not.
Not until they do some heroshit.
I am not a hero.
Not a hero until I do some heroshit.
Um you don't you don't get to belabeled a hero just because you
wear the uniform.
So I'm trying to find a place toput my feet up.

(01:28:10):
It's not working.
Um the Don Dunpeel said, onscene, yes, in this video, that
lady had a total disregard foreverybody and everything.
Yep.
Uh bearded Tim said, It'ssnowing here.
Yuck.
Uncle Fatty said, Where is theline for miles per hour over the
limit?
Where does it become reckless?
It's not reckless in speed, it'sreckless in action.

(01:28:34):
That's my point.
Again, 20 over in a school zonewhile kids are crossing the
road, reckless.
20 over on a freeway in the fastlane with no hardly any traffic
on the road, it's not reckless.
Um, he said, Are you using yourphone?

(01:28:55):
No, I'm using my I am invertical mode, sir, because
we're on Instagram.
So that's what's going on.
Tasker said, That's what I don'tlike about the rest with kids
involved.
Take the effort and don't do itin front of the kid.
Yep.
I think it's generally 20 over.
I may be different per state.
Um, Steve Wallace in the house.

(01:29:16):
What's up, Steve?
Andy Fletcher, it's true.
Uh, I'm sorry, I call youTyrant.
No, it's fine, guys.
I I just it's in the manner ofits use, is when I get I get
annoyed with it.
Um when it's just blanketlyused, like uh self-proclaimed
heroes.

(01:29:37):
Credit to the old Steve Ladner.
Yeah, David, David said it.
David Ladner, self-proclaimed.
Yeah, shit like that.
Like if you have an example andwe're talking about something
specific, cool.
But as a blanket statement, justbecause you don't like cops or
or just because you love cops,come on now.
Um Harrison, Harrison with thegold.

(01:30:00):
But firefighters are all heroes.
Yeah, they are.
They are all heroes.

unknown (01:30:04):
Fucking firefighters.

SPEAKER_00 (01:30:06):
Even I love them.
You can't help but love them.
Although we did team up on thisfirefighter the other day, he he
posted a video.
I think it was me, Copville, andIzzo, posted this thirst trap
video of him being in front ofthe fire truck and posing and
doing shit just to impress thechicks.
Like, look, you want to do yourshit, that's cool, but don't do

(01:30:28):
it with on city time, on thecity dime, um, in front of city
equipment that you don't payfor.
You're flexing the, I don't knowwhat you call fire, the badge,
the firefighter badge patch.
I don't know what they have, butyou're flexing that um for your
clicks and likes on city time.
I don't don't like that.
Um The Don Dunpeel said cops arehuman.

(01:30:53):
That much is true, but in myopinion, some officers take way
too much for granted.
Oh, for sure.
For sure, brother.
Let me run over to Instagramhere.
I think I've missed somecomments.
Um 14 robots.
That's a very interesting name.
It's tough to get Instagram liveviewership no matter the topic,
be it whiskey or cops.

(01:31:13):
Oh, yeah, I love me somewhiskey.
Tim said, I'm on both.
Love it.
Yeah, I don't, I don't know why.
I don't know why.
I don't get it.
Want to give Eric a hard time24-7 within reason?
Join the Discord.
That's one of my mods.
Big shout out to my mods, Tim,uh, the bearded Tim, however you
want to refer to him.

(01:31:33):
Uh, we like calling him uh MethySanta Claus.
And then um Marine Blood,another one.
Um, I'm about to add some more.
Um, I want to get Nat involved,Natalie from uh our Facebook
groups.
I gotta get her more involved.
It's very I'm very, very pickywith my mods.
So, and I don't want them to beoverwhelmed.

(01:31:56):
Um, however, I am gettingoverwhelmed on Instagram and
Facebook, so I kind of want tosee if Nat wants to tackle both
of those.
Um the Don Dunpeel said, one ofmy best friends is a cop down in
Maryland.
I would say up in Maryland.
Uh, and I know it's a hard job.
Last time he came over, I gavehim a little citizens quiz and
he passed.
I'd like to think uh he is agood training officer.

(01:32:19):
Yeah.
Um it's funny.
I I don't it depends on how youlook at something being hard.
Because I look at lawenforcement as like cake.
It's so easy.
And so that like 1% of the timeit's it's hard.
But I look at hard as likephysical labor.

(01:32:42):
That's hard.
Electricians, garbage guys, umplumbers, welders, guys that
work in the shops, mufflermen,uh nurses that are on their feet
all day.
Day, teachers having to dealwith kids, like that stuff to
me.
That's hard.
That's a mental beatdown.
Um, but if you're really good atcompartmentalizing, like me, in

(01:33:05):
fact, being a cop's been easy.
It's been easy.
Uh I don't know.
Maybe it's not a good thing.
But looking over here at thelooking over here at the chats,
somebody's name is D Money BeShootin'.
Some of your names are great.

(01:33:26):
Uh my mom said, 20 over stillbreaking the law.
No excuses.
I've seen way too many bodiesmangled and body parts scattered
due to speed in my life.
I feel the same about speed as Ido about drunk and drugged.
See, that's the people that arein line at the police station

(01:33:48):
and at the town hall meetingsaying that cops need to be
writing more tickets.
My mom's one of those people, Ibet.
Oh.
Marine Blood said, I'm a charitycase since YouTube won't gift me
a sub.
You're definitely not a charitycase.
You had expertise in your field.

(01:34:08):
Uh by heart, I mean things copshave to go through on a daily
basis, as you said.
You can see some of the words.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I will give you that.
Um, and again, that's why I saidlike I think my ability, ability
to compartmentalize things hashelped me in this career.
That's why I'm able to keep sucha positive attitude.
I just I'm able to not thinkabout that.

(01:34:29):
Like I can push it away.
Not I don't push it down.
There's a difference.
I literally forget it.
I just like it's gone.
I don't, I don't let it sit inmy head.
It's a God-gifted talent.
Um, and mental health forofficers is highly overlooked.
It is.
I do think it's getting a lotbetter.

(01:34:51):
I think it's getting a lotbetter.
I think there's a lot of peoplethat like to, no offense to some
of these cops out there, but Ifeel like there's a big um
money-making push to capitalizeon the topic.
Don't know if their hearts arealways necessarily in the right
place.
Um, Uncle Fatty, I used to speedall the time, everywhere.

(01:35:13):
Lots of tickets.
Uh, until the kids were born.
Now I drive like a damn oldgrandpa.
Yeah, that'll change you.
Um, and another thing toconsider like if you do, I think
if you do 20 over the speedlimit from your destination to
wherever, they say it you'relucky if it sheds a minute or
two off of your time, your totaltime.

(01:35:34):
So it's really not worth itanyway.
He said it, and then I realizedI was just racing to the next
line.
Yeah.
Wisdom.
I mean, I still I do hammer itto get to the speed limit.
Now I speed.

(01:35:55):
Oh I drive like a cop, that'sthe problem.
Um yeah, let me go to the nextvideo here.
We watch that one.
I got one more loaded up here.
Um I did like a full episode.
I didn't even intend to.
I just was gonna jump on hereuntil I was about to go make
some videos and uh I made a fulltwo cops, one donut live stream

(01:36:18):
episode.
All right, let me let me sharethis one here for you guys.
Pardon me, I'm using my lefthand to navigate this mouse.

unknown (01:36:33):
All right.

SPEAKER_00 (01:36:34):
Based on the way that dad's walking here, and
when Sun said that he wanted tobe a canine officer for
Halloween, I don't think this iswhat he planned on.
But mad prompts are being such agood dad.
You're telling me that daddidn't look a little disheveled.

(01:36:54):
Um, I like to show some positivestuff.
And that was that was cool tome.
Um, good dad.
Uh the the the great debate waswhat breed of dog was he?
I said he was a Doberman.
Some people were saying he's ashepherd.
I can tell you whatever it was.
I don't think he intended I'mbeing put on a leash.

(01:37:15):
But I could be wrong.
You never know.
Could be wrong.
Uh Uncle Fatty, yeah.
Discord is its own beast, thatis for sure.
It is.
Discord modding is totallydifferent.
That's why we got Brian Thompsonon there, we got Tim, we got
Marine Blood.
Um, yeah, it's and I don't knowhow to do any of it.

(01:37:37):
I've not had the time to sitthere and really figure out how
to do anything.
Um because I've got TikTok,Instagram, YouTube, Facebook,
and there's three groups onFacebook.
I just want you guys to knowthat.
There's three personal,business, and private group.

(01:37:58):
Uh, then we got threads,clapper, and Twitter, which is
X.
Um, we have a Rumble.
I don't really keep that up todate very well because it was
pulling the videos automaticallyfrom YouTube and it stopped at
some point, and I never knewthat it stopped because I never

(01:38:20):
really used it.
So we do have a rumble, and thenwe also have a Twitch.
So I gotta do all of thosethings.
So that's why I say I don't havethe time to figure a lot of this
stuff out.
Um, what on earth?
I wouldn't be caught dead insomething like that.
Why are you hating?
Uh Ghost said Doby Shep mix.

(01:38:44):
Keys, what up, free?
Free in the house.
Free sent me, and I'm sorry ifI'm blasting out there, Freeman,
but uh sent me a really coolemail about our last live stream
with um San Joaquin ValleyTransparency.
I I have a hard time rememberinghis name.

(01:39:05):
Um but uh between him, I Iactually got more emails from
that episode than any episode,including Kyle Rittenhouse when
we had him on.
I got more emails from that oneepisode than I've on any live
stream that we've done.
Um, which is crazy.
Crazy.
I guess he really what I thinkwhat what really shocked people,

(01:39:29):
which is this was the mostcommon reaction, was that I
never heard of him.
And he's like an OG of FirstAmendment auditing.
Uh I hadn't.
I never his videos had never runacross me.
When I saw his personal page umand and seen his face, I'd never
seen his face before.

(01:39:50):
His voice didn't ring a bell.
So I don't think I've ever evenshared any of his stuff because
I've never he's never runacross.
But having him on the livestream just brought a ton of
people in.
So um it was really cool.
It was really cool that thatepisode resonated with so many
people.
And again, we I think we reallyhelped bridge a gap there.

(01:40:16):
There's so many cops that comeinto our comment section, like,
why do you give these guys aplatform, da-da-da-da-da-da-da,
and just hate on them?
And I'm like, You ever sit down?
I don't want to talk to any ofthem?
Because I do.
Try to figure out their mission,try to figure out what they're
doing.
If they're if they think thatthey're out there doing exactly
what you claim you think they'redoing.

(01:40:37):
So because I I get the same, Iget the same reactions on here
from other cops that hate onwhat what we do here.
Oh, you're just out there forclicks and likes.
You got to be the center ofattention.
Cool.
That's what you think we'redoing.
That's all good for you,brother.
Um, I was like, but I've got ahistory archive of emails of

(01:41:00):
other cops, like, thank you, Ididn't know this.
Thank you, I didn't know that.
Oh, we learned about this.
Uh we'd never been taught aboutFirst Amendment auditors there
about this, or citizens reachingout and saying, Oh, we never
considered that perspective.
Like, that's all this show'sabout perspective sharing.
This is what I would be doing ifI was out on the street.
I would be saying the same exactstuff.

(01:41:21):
So yeah.
Um, there is one.
Oh shit.
There it goes.
Oh, my screen went away for asecond.
I messed it up.
Let me go back to my Instagram.
Um, see what we got on there.
Trev Tattoo said Epstein IslandHalloween party fit.

(01:41:44):
You fucker.
Oh shit.
That's why I like the chat.
Chat, there's so many morepeople that are funny out there
on the internet.
Um, this is one thing that I didwant to share is the comment
section of our Danny Dip video.
Because there is a moron onthere that I wanted to point

(01:42:05):
out.
I think it was the Danny Dipvideo.
Let me see here.
I don't know how well this isgoing to be able to show you
guys.
Share.
You don't need to hear.
Let me pause that.
You don't need to see just uh Ihate when it pauses on me.
Um where is he?

(01:42:34):
Uh that's not what we want.
Maybe it was this.
Oh, did he delete all his stuff?
Oh no, there he is.
This dude right here.
This guy.
William Beller775.
I offered him to come on hereand talk.

(01:42:55):
He didn't want to do it.
He just wanted to talk a bunchof noise.
And I don't normally call peopleout like this, but this guy's
good look, he even he even triedto call me out, so fuck him.
Uh he was trying to make somestupid statement about that this

(01:43:17):
that it needed to be in thechain of evidence.
And I told him we don't call itchain, as like, because he
claims he was a cop at onepoint.
So we don't call it the chain ofevidence.
I've never even heard a coprefer it to it that way.
We always say chain of custody.
That's the language.
And as you can see, he tried toshare this bag and say that this

(01:43:40):
is the evidence, or this is hitproving his point.
And I'm like, if you'd have justread right here at the bottom uh
or the middle of that thing, itsays chain of custody.
Um so, and then he tries toclaim he's got 30 years
experience and everything thathe said, and by the way, he was
taking the side of the cop outof uh Fondu Lac.

(01:44:03):
So that tells you, that tellsyou that this guy has no clue
what he's talking about.
William.beller.775.
William.
Let me see here.
And then I look through hisstuff because I'm an
investigator by nature.

(01:44:24):
And apparently he played a copas an extra.
So he really felt that he knewwhat he was talking about.
IJ name.
Um anyway.
Yeah.
Don't put me on blast.
I won't put you on blast, sir.
Um sorry, I know somebody hadsome comments I was going to go

(01:44:48):
back to and read.
Make sure there wasn't any onInstagram first.
Okay, let me go over here.
Um earth wouldn't be caught deadin okay, yeah.
Um, Marine Blood said justupload them.
Uh look like a little rookiecaught the dang old werewolf on

(01:45:08):
a Halloween.
Um, talking to people who thinkdifferently is the best way to
grow.
Thank you.
Thank you.
That has been my premise thiswhole time.
Um, and and what I've toldpeople a cool byproduct of doing
this show is it's helped mebecome a better cop, uh, in my
own opinion.
Maybe some people don't think Iam.

(01:45:29):
Um, you heard of Joe Cool.
Joe Cool, Chicago, he bouncesaround.
Panelverse, raging tomato flowstate.
He's got some great 1A auditvideos, and he is always willing
to have a conversation.
I I heard you guys calling hisname out, but I did not know who
I still I don't know who that iseither.
I'd have to see one of hisvideos.

(01:45:49):
Um Tim said, Cops complain toyou about clicking views because
they hate you, that you are anhonest cop and you call out
their effed up behavior.
Thank you, brother.
Did you look into SiberianTiger?
Yes, I did.
I did.
Holy shit.
I've never heard anybody talk toa judge the way that he did.

(01:46:09):
And the only way that you canget away with that is by being
100% right and not uh not usingpersonal language.
And he did, and it was pretty umimpressive.
I was the whole time I hadanxiety for him because you
don't know what the hell thejudge is gonna do.

(01:46:29):
Even if you're 100% right, younever know what the judge is
gonna do.
But apparently he and I'll givethe judge credit because the
judge could have stood on egoand didn't.
She stood on doing it rightbecause she got called out, and
he's like, Yep, he's right aboutit.
So, and she stood on that.
So kudos to her.
That's good.

(01:46:50):
She didn't let her ego get inthe way.
Um, Ghost said, This is aboutbalancing wellness and
professionalism, stayinghealthy, sharp, and ready to
lead every day, aka doingbetter.
Yep.
And I full disclosure, I got mydo better stuff, a little shtick
from Joey Schwole.
Uh Joey Swole.
Um, I love what he does for thegym culture.

(01:47:11):
And he's not, he doesn'tchastise, he educates, he calls
out the behavior when he seesit, he calls out good behavior
when he sees it.
Um, and I'm using the sameformula.
I didn't intentionally take thatfrom him, but I used what he's
doing for my own niche.
Um maybe a foreign cop.

(01:47:31):
Someone tried arguing, someonetried arguing law with me, and I
pulled out the term reasonablecause.
He combined reasonable, takablesuspicion and probable cause.
I mean, it happens.
A 30-year TV cop veteran makessense.

(01:47:51):
Right?
He's not a cop.
He played one on TV.
He also stayed at a holiday andexpress.
So you would know.
Uh, you can't fight that.
I keep telling my kids, this isfrom ghosts, I keep telling my
kids, don't believe everythingto see on those TV shows.
Um, the Don Dunpeel said yes,Iberian Tiger is quite
entertaining, auditor.
Yes, he is.

(01:48:12):
Um DMA always tells cops dobetter.
Who's DMA?
DMA.
I know I'm I don't I'm not mybrain isn't functioning out who
that is.
Key.

(01:48:34):
Millennial cop joined.
Ooh, that's a bold statement outthere.
Denver Metro Audits.
Oh okay.
You guys know so you guys knowso many auditors.
It's crazy to me.
There's so many out in thecommunity for that stuff.
It's nuts.
Do you enjoy the chat just asmuch as the show?

(01:48:54):
Join the Discord 24-7.
Thank you, Marines Blood.
Uh let's see if it shows up.
I clicked it.
There it is.
Copy that.
And just so you guys know, youcan do a screenshot on your
phone, and then there's a littlewindow on the on the picture

(01:49:16):
when you go to the picture thatallows you to highlight text in
a picture.
So if you're like, well, I can'tclick on this link here.
Yeah, just take a screenshot, goto your photos, click that
little three-lined, it lookslike a little piece of paper in
the bottom right-hand corner ifyou got an iPhone, like an
adult.
Uh, and then you go over there.
Oh, young Jacob joined.

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Jacob Wirtz, my boy out there inArizona.
What's going on, Jacob?
Wix Frank joined.
What's up, Wix?
Looking at my people onInstagram because Instagram's
dwindling quickly.
I got no more videos, so they'relike, them out.
Inland Audien Media inWashington State is great.

(01:49:59):
I can tell you right now, thereare types of auditors I won't
watch because they drive meinsane.
Um, the ones that are superconfrontational, overly
aggressive, just assholes.
I don't, I won't watch them.
Do I agree they have the rightto do what they're doing?
Yep.
Do I have to like it?

(01:50:19):
Nope.
Do I think that they're doingmore harm than good for their
message?
Yep.
Look at the really, reallypopular ones and look at the
look at the quality of thefollowing.
Like Long Island Audit, like,you know, San Joaquin Valley.
Look at the quality of thepeople that follow those guys.

(01:50:41):
It's because they they take thetime.
They educate, they do, they'renot overly aggro.
I think that's why they get sucha good following.
But then you look at the onesthat are super aggressive, they
may have a huge following, butthe engagement is just toxic.
Just toxic.
Um, what do you think aboutthese so-called audits of

(01:51:04):
dispensaries?
I support Leah and a few otherauditors trying to get positive
change, but the dispensaryvisits seem to be just
pointless.
I don't know what that is.
You mean like weed dispensaries?
I don't know.
I've never seen an audit on aweed dispensary.
I like how Marine Blood keepsraising his pay.

(01:51:26):
Do you like the mods and want tosupport 4,000% pay raise?
Donate here.
Buy me a coffee.
Uh that is the goal, though,guys.
The goal is to have asustainable income for the show
where we can pay our mods, wherewe can pay Matt and Banning and
Alan and uh Deadleg and Trey.

(01:51:48):
That's the idea.
Right now I'm just getting themequipment.
Um, that's that's the short-termgoal.
Deborah Bond said, I agree.
I don't like the aggressiveauditors.
You can see they deliberatelyantagonize.
Mayflower kids said, Yeah, it'sa new trend now.
Yeah, I don't like it.
Or, oh, maybe he's talking aboutthe dispensary.

(01:52:08):
Yeah, weed stores indeed.
What do you what I I don'tunderstand?
How are you gonna audit a weedstore?
I don't understand that.
Like, so the Don Dunpeel said,Um, yeah, there's a few people
who do those First Amendmentaudit, First Amendment
protection agency almostexclusively stands on a sidewalk

(01:52:31):
outside of a dispensary.
Oh, do people not want otherpeople knowing that they're
getting weed?
I guess maybe that's it.
That's mostly FAPA Dongdispensaries.
What?
I feel like that'sinappropriate.
Whatever you just said, AndyFletcher.
Uncle Fatty, 4,000 times zerostill equals zero, yeah?

(01:52:55):
Yes, it does.
Yes, it does.
That's what makes what we do sogreat.
Everybody that's a part of whatwe do is volunteer so far.
And my goal is to make it so itisn't volunteer for them.
I want them to get paid to helpfurther what I consider a good

(01:53:17):
mission.
That's why I do it.
Um they take up a lot of theirtime to help do what they do.
Just because they believe inwhat they're doing.
And I think that's uh valuable.
I think there's value to that,and I think what we're doing
holds value.
So, yes, if anybody out therewants to support us, you can

(01:53:38):
join our YouTube channel or youcan do the buy me a coffee
thing.
That does help.
Um I know this was impromptu, soI don't blame anybody for not
donating during an impromptulive.
We have our go-to live stream onMonday nights uh at 9 p.m.
Um that time could change.

(01:54:01):
I am considering Sunday nights,but Monday nights just seem to
work best.
And I think weekends is verymiss.
Like, look right now.
I mean, we've got 30 somethingpeople on on uh YouTube,
Facebook, LinkedIn, and thenwe've got like two on Instagram,
so not nearly as much as wenormally have on our Monday

(01:54:26):
nights.
Deborah Bond said, some peopledon't want it known that they
buy weed.
Some because of their jobs, it'snot allowed if they are a
federal employee.
Oh, yeah, I guess I could getthat.
So what you're telling me isthey're looking to create an
interaction is really whatthey're doing.
Yeah, I don't think I agree withthat either.

(01:54:49):
Yep.
I'm gonna go and just agree thatI don't like that type of audit.
Um free said, I'm not crazyabout bank audits either, just
to look suspicious.
I love Kansas Cityaccountability.
He has a quick wit, but notcrazy about banks.

(01:55:09):
Um, without the confrontationalauditors, the low-key auditor
would not be able to do whatthey do.
The OGs mowed the field for allthese new people.
Uh, that's a good argument.
That's that's fair.
I don't think that's uhterrible.
Um El Chivo said, I'm one of thetwo on Instagram.
Thanks for the shout-out.

(01:55:30):
I love it.
Hell yeah, brother.
Anytime.
You know, you think about it.
For me, when I do these, if Ican have a classroom size of
people, I'm happy.
And I think 20 to 30 people is aclassroom size.
So just the fact that we've gotuh 30 something people right

(01:55:53):
now.
Oh, Instagram went dark.
We got nobody on Instagramaccording to what it's showing
me.
Um, Mayflower Kid said, I don'tthink pissing off the public is
the best way to get publicsupport.
True.
Uncle Fatty said, Shit, I'm twominutes late.
Have a great day, y'all.
Be safe out there.
Today's a great day to learnyour neighbor's name.
I like that.

(01:56:14):
Now I have to speed to the weedstore.
Um, the whole point of any auditis to get a cop interaction to
see how they do.
Free bongs for the first 50 inthe door.
No.
Um, it's about a person's rightsand not the fake rights of
businesses.

(01:56:35):
So I will say that um I havelearned that some of these
auditors are calling the cops onthemselves.
What do you guys think aboutthat?
Just like magnet fishers dumpingstuff in the water and finding
it like they authentically foundit.

(01:56:59):
I'm curious what your guys'thought is on that.
How do you guys feel out thereabout First Amendment auditors
calling the cops on themselves?
I would say that that's wrong.

(01:57:19):
Um 1127 said, I'm learninglesson that if you want your
private, if you're privately inpublic, you have to create it.
Um said, your content is goodand your conversations are well
stated.
This is the way.
Hell yeah.
I like the uh Star Wars theme.

(01:57:40):
This is the way.
I don't know if you guys cannotice if it's showing up on
camera, but my camera looks likeit's just like back and forth,
and I don't know why it's doingthat.
I hope my camera's not breaking.
But that is bugging the shit outof me.
Let me look at my Instagram.

(01:58:01):
Somebody sent me a privatemessage.
Who sent me a private message?
I don't see.
Maybe it's under general.
There it is.

(01:58:24):
It was from Big Daddy.
Let me pull it up here.
We're gonna pause it.
We're gonna share it.
Somebody sent a video in.
Always like that.
Share.
All right, we'll unmute it andwe will play the incorrect way

(01:58:46):
to greet the police.
This is uh at relentless.140Instagram page.
So shout out to them.
Oh shit.
Dang it, Mr.
Billfold.

(01:59:15):
Oh, he's punching the car.
He had a knife or a gun.

(01:59:35):
I can't tell.
He had some sort of weapon.
Yeah, that's the definition ofuh that's the definition of
FAFO, man.
You um can't you're not allowingthe cop to get out of the car,
you're hitting the window with aweapon.
Pretty dumb.
Not my style.

(01:59:55):
I would have just drove down theroad unless somebody was in
imminent danger.
Um, I would have drove down theroad and been like, all right,
this dude's uh following me witha knife.
I think I think sometimesofficers force a situation that
they don't need to force.
I'm not saying he did that here.
I don't I don't know all thedetails, but watching that, uh,
I would agree with uh with Mr.

(02:00:18):
Billfold, that is not the way togreet the police.
Um Mayflower Kids said, well, areal audit is to change policy
and law and to protectconstitutional rights, not this
other bull.
I agree that is a good point forit.
And I do agree that FirstAmendment audit stuff has

(02:00:40):
created great police training.
I've been first hand witness toit.
Um I believe it is a validtactic if the officer says that
they got a complaint.
How is he going to enforce acomplaint on someone who calls
on them for themselves?
Yeah, absolutely.
Because now you don't have avictim of anything.
Find out who the caller is.

(02:01:02):
And again, this goes into ifcops were doing the job the
right way.
Um you're already trying to makecontact with the complaint.
Because if the complaint can'tarticulate a crime, there's no
reason to even make contact withan auditor.
It was racist, wasn't it?

(02:01:23):
I look like a white boy sayingthat.
Hard to tell in this littlevideo, but um.
People have said they feeluncomfortable about it.
It's considered rude to welcomepolice with a pew-pew.
It is.

(02:01:44):
I don't know if he had a gun orif he had a knife, but whatever
it was, he was beating on thewindow with it.
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and talk about them.
Um, ID has look fake, the onlyword you can read, press.
Um look up auto the watchdog.
Actually, I mean talks withauto.
I have reached out to him.
He is funny.
Um, I want to get auto on.

(02:02:26):
I think auto would be great.
I uh there's one where he's gotlike four different signs, he's
on the corner.
Um, he's talking to a guy thatis also a SWAT officer, and the
other officer that comes out isalso a SWAT officer, like part
time.
And I was laughing.
I thought what he was doing washilarious.
But he was right.
And he was testing those copslike knowledge to the extreme

(02:02:48):
because they I truly think theywere figuring it out as they
were going.
They they weren't sure, and thatshows you the truth.
Training.
That is a training issue.
That's not a cop knowinglyviolating the law because they
have qualified immunity.
It's not any of that.
That's a training issue, guys.
When I watch that, I can tellyou 100% they weren't sure.
They were like, fuck.
I think I can enforce this.

(02:03:09):
Maybe I can't.
That was the body language I wasgetting from that.
Um, the auditors who callthemselves are abusing their
position, and what they'retrying to do as a whole, they're
making a bad name for the rest.
Yep.
Welcome to police work, fuckers.
That's what happens if badpolice do bad shit.

(02:03:31):
Nah, 11127 said, uh Otto is theman.
Yeah, he's funny.
He is a funny dude.
I like his stuff.
Um Trevit uh Trev Tattoo saidFirst Amendment auditors are
setting the bait.
Only dumb cops fall for it.
Cops that understand the lawhave nothing to worry about.

(02:03:52):
100%.
And if they're doing it theright way, they never have to
make contact with the auditor.
Now, talking to San Joaquin, hewants you to at least come up
and say, like, hey man, theycalled, but we know you didn't
do anything wrong.
So to other cops out there, givethem that.
Give them that, I guess.
It's not that bad.

(02:04:12):
Go up there and say, hey, theycalled.
Um, we're not doing anythingabout it.
Uh we know that this is a firstamendment, right?
So have a good day.
You gave them a little bit ofcontent to share of you doing
your job the right way.
So Mike Cucumber.
I kind of want to be a cop now.
See?
Yeah.
Mike's drinking the Kool-Aid.

(02:04:36):
Next thing you know, we're gonnahave Mike's gonna be like, yeah,
I Kool-Aid Mandador the otherday.
Oh yeah.
Oh shit.
Yeah, if you guys got any morevideos.
Um and to my mods on um what thehell is that called?
Discord, let me know if there'sa video that I need to share on

(02:04:59):
there.
I'm looking at it right now.
Uh on the live stream chat.
Trying to make this video just alittle bigger so I can see more
stuff.
Um yeah.

(02:05:22):
Well, we're at two hours.
We're a little over.
Drop the two-party system said,how can LEOs not know about 1A?
I learned that like secondgrade.
Public education has gonedownhill.
Okay, here's what I will sayabout knowing the amendments and
knowing laws.

(02:05:43):
You can know the law, butapplying them to situations is a
different skill.
So having the freedom of speech,for instance, you've got the
freedom of speech, right?
But there's certain things youcan't do.
You can't, you know, yell firein a public setting, like a
train or a plane in thecourtroom, stuff like that.

(02:06:07):
Or being in a court.
You're not allowed to film ifthe judge says so.
Like it's knowing when theyapply and when they don't.
So, yes, you can know theconstitution, but not know
necessarily how to apply them.
That's the challenge, and that'swhy we have the issues we have,
because some people are good atit, some aren't, some learn it

(02:06:30):
as they're going.
They they figure it out, theyget better at it.
Some people never get better atit because they never get
challenged.
They're they're enforcing it thewrong way because they think
they're right, and then untilthey're until somebody
challenges that shows them thatthey're wrong.
That's what First Amendmentauditors do.
I think a lot of these copsthink that they're right.
Um, because I've had cops, likewhen I first learned about

(02:06:52):
HIPAA, I didn't realize thatHIPAA was the responsibility of
the people with the HIPAAinformation.
I thought it was illegal for meto even try to take it.
I didn't understand that lawproperly.
And that's how this stuff'sgoing.
People don't they're incorrectin how they're applying the law
or how they're looking at theconstitution.

(02:07:13):
It's a perspective.
Um sorry, I think I missed somecomments over here.
I'm gonna go back.
Um I put a good copy video inthe Discord.
A good copy.
Oh let me see.

(02:07:39):
Oh my god, it's so loud.
Let me try to share it over herein front of me.
I will.
Okay, let me share the screen.
Freeman sent a video in.

(02:08:00):
Share?
Okay, let's watch this.
I wish I had a way to turn thedamn volume down in this video.
It's destroying my eardrums.
Sorry if it's too loud, y'all.
Shout out to Newsner orwhoever's trying to claim claim
a publicly owned video for theirown website.
I love when people watermark afucking public video.

SPEAKER_04 (02:08:25):
Sir, sir, sir, sir, sir.

SPEAKER_01 (02:09:05):
Let's see if I can stop.

SPEAKER_00 (02:09:09):
Alright, I'm just gonna say if I noticed this, I
would have pulled in front of itand come to a rolling stop with
it.
That's probably how I would havetried this one.

SPEAKER_04 (02:10:49):
Hey, hey, stay with me! Hey, wake up, sir.

SPEAKER_00 (02:10:55):
This is the type of care and compassion that you
want from your cops.
I I can hear it in his voice.
I can hear that he cares.
So, yes, this is a this is agreat video.
Um, and according to the video,it saves his life.
So, yeah, I like that stuff.
Thank you, free.
CE knows.
I like to.
Somebody said, can you biggiesize?

(02:11:17):
Or is Alan when you need him?
Uh, I can't.
Not on uh, not when I do thevertical mode.
Mike Cucumber said, Eric, I'm atax accountant, and I can tell
you that you know you I can tellyou that I know very little
about tax law.
It is so vast that I can neverknow everything.
I always keep an open mind tolearn more.
I like that.

(02:11:37):
Acting like you know everythinggets you in trouble.
Yeah, for sure.
For sure.
And that's and that's part ofthe problem with uh with cops, I
think.
When when we truly don't know,we pretend like we know.
We fake it till we make it.
Um and then that can get us introuble too.
Uh Tasker said, it's a goodvideo.

(02:11:58):
If I heard what would happen, ifI heard what would happen, I
would guess a cop mistook it asa DWI.
Um, yeah, at first, but I mean,I I would have figured that was
he figured out that that was amedical issue right away.
Um, because he called fire anEMS and even said, like, this
guy looks like he's slumpedover.

(02:12:18):
Um Lacey said, a rareoccurrence.
I disagree.
I disagree.
I think this stuff happens allthe time, just doesn't get
shared.
Um, and and one of the reasons Ibelieve that is because I see
it.
I personally see it now in myposition as a real-time crime
center sergeant.
I get to see a lot of coolvideos of cops doing good shit,
and they don't even knowanybody's watching.

(02:12:39):
They don't they don't know thatI'm watching.
So it's pretty cool.
I think a lot of it happens, butnobody this is one of the things
that we try to do with our show.
We try to share more of this soyou can get the feel goods to
see that stuff.
Because it does happen moreoften than you're you're aware
of.
And just like some of the badstuff happens more often than

(02:13:02):
cops are aware of.
Especially this First Amendmentaudit stuff.
It's funny that that's kind oflike the that's kind of like the
uh catalyst for a lot of ourstuff is First Amendment audits.
It's just so easy, it justhappens so often.
We're gonna keep putting videosout until it stops, I guess.

(02:13:23):
But yeah, this cop's do this copdid a great job.
And I loved I I love that youcould hear the the care.
You could hear the care in hisvoice.
It wasn't uh he wasn't goingthrough the motions, he wasn't
saying a script.
He was he was truly into it.
So oh one of my goals for thisyear, like I have goals with all

(02:13:46):
of our social media stuff.
Because if you're not growing,then you're doing something
wrong.
So we've continuously grown,like across all platforms.
Everything keeps going up, somereally slow, like TikTok.
I don't understand TikTok.
Uh Twitter, I really don'tunderstand Twitter.
We're at like 500 people.

(02:14:06):
We've been there since and I'vehad it for all almost five
years.
I've been doing this.
I just don't know how to growTwitter or X, whatever you want
to call it.
I don't know how to grow that.
Um, but everything'scontinuously gone up.
Um, and my goal for YouTube andmy goal for Instagram and
Facebook were this.

(02:14:27):
I wanted to get 20,000 people onour YouTube.
I wanted to get 150,000 on ourFacebook, and I wanted to get
our Instagram up to 175,175,000.
Um, and from where they started,like I think we were at maybe

(02:14:47):
10, 10 or 12,000 at the end ofthe year last year.
So we are almost there.
We're like less than 500 shorton our YouTube.
I think we're gonna make it forthe 20,000 there.
So that's cool.
That just shows what we're doingis working.
Um, I don't get obsessed withthe numbers.
That's not a thing for me.
I get obsessed with you knowgrowth.
Yeah, are we growing?

(02:15:08):
Because if we're not growing,again, it's a self-reflection
moment, we're not doing theright thing, but we're growing.
So I think we're doing the rightthing.
We're gonna continue to do this,we're gonna continue to listen
to y'all's feedback and adjustand offer more live stream stuff
so you guys can ask questions.
Um, we're doing our ego classthis Monday.
So that's what the live streamis gonna be about Monday night.

(02:15:28):
I'm gonna have my buddy GeorgeLopez on here, not the comedian.
Um, he's the one that developedthe ego class that I've talked
about.
And what I hope to get out ofthat is while we sit down and
discuss this ego course thathe's created, you guys can have
something to reference from nowon to other people.
Because what we're gonna do isonce the recording is over, once

(02:15:49):
we the live streams done, we'regonna go back, we're gonna edit
that down to a course that youguys can share with any
department and be like, this iswhat your guys need.
So when you see officers fromyour city or other cities that
you think need to have itbecause they fell victim to
their own ego, they can have atraining course that's out there

(02:16:10):
and available.
We're not just we're not justtalking the talk and preaching
at people.
We are showing you how to fixit.
So, and we're not charging adime.
I'm gonna put that shit outthere for free because it's only
going to improve police workacross the board.
Um, so we're gonna be doing thatMonday night.
So it's gonna be pretty cool.
Um this year is about over.

(02:16:34):
Do you mean for next year?
No, no, this is this is what wewere trying to get for this
year.
We're almost at the 20,000 onYouTube.
We are not even close onInstagram.
Instagram, I think it's been at150.
It's at 152 right now, but um,we'll go up 5,000, but we'll
drop 5,000.
Like it just, I don't know whatInstagram does.
It just kind of doesn't let usgrow.

(02:16:56):
Um, so we're not gonna hit the175 with them.
Um, Facebook, we were at like112.
Um, and we're almost to 150.
I think we're like 8,000 short,something like that.
So there's a chance.
There's a chance we could bethere.
Um, so we've hit all of ourgoals with all, or we're pretty

(02:17:18):
pretty close to hitting all ofour goals except for Instagram.
That's just not gonna happen.
I know that one's not gonnahappen.
Um, but yeah, but yeah, we'redoing the ego class um Monday
night.
So uh X isn't growing marineblood because you didn't pay for
the blue check mark.
Yes, I did.
When I when the blue check markcame out under X, I paid for it

(02:17:38):
for a year, no growth, nothinghappened.
So that's when I was like, well,it's not even worth paying for.
Um I'll send the link to mysheriff's department so they can
throw it in their junk folder.
Control is the symptom of theego.

(02:18:01):
Well, you gotta be fair.
There is a level of control thatyou need to have on a police
call.
So, um, I and there's a level ofego that you need to do police
work.
There's there's a uh a level ofum what's the word?
A level of arrogance that youneed to do police work, I think.

(02:18:25):
Um because you're interjectingyourself into people's problems
or you're interjecting yourselfinto somebody breaking a law and
you gotta hold them accountable.
Like that takes a level ofconfidence, it takes a level of
arrogance, it takes a level ofego, takes all those things.
It's just gotta be controlled.
It took a legal level of ego forme to think I could get online

(02:18:48):
and do what I do on here.
There had to be a level of egofor that.
And a continued ego to thinkthat what I'm doing is making a
difference.
But that gets the ego to try todo this gets lowered and lowered
the more you get the feedbackfrom people like we really like
what you're doing.
So yeah, absolutely.

(02:19:09):
I think that police work doesrequire a level of ego.
You just gotta recognize it.
You can't let it emotionallyhijack what you're doing.
Um if it isn't sent by LEOs toLEOs, that's where it will go
from Lacey.
Yeah, I think that's the point.
That's why we do what we do.
And I'll call it out on videosoccasionally hear me say, if

(02:19:30):
you're not gonna listen to theseauditors, you're not gonna
listen to other people, um,perhaps you'll listen to another
cop that's telling you.
And I get it wrong sometimes.
Like shit.
I thought earlier that uhrecording was a Supreme Court
ruling.
I was wrong.
It was a circuit court ruling.
My bad.
I was wrong.

(02:19:51):
It happens.
Ego and confidence are twodifferent things.
Yes, ego and confidence are twodifferent things.
I agree.
You still need both.
You still need both.
Um but yeah, like Mike Cucumbersaid, it takes humility to
continue.
Agreed.
Agreed.
Marine blood.

(02:20:11):
Follow two cops when don't haveX.
I don't I have no hope for X.
I think there's a there's someway.
I think there's some way to keepX to grow it.
I I just don't know what thatis.
And because I don't pay it awhole lot of attention, I I
literally, everything that Ipost on Inst on all the rest of
the platforms, I post onInstagram.

(02:20:34):
Um, but I don't, or I'm sorry, Ipost on X, but I don't interact
on X because I don't get anyinteraction.
So maybe that's why.
Maybe it requires a level ofinteraction.
I just don't have.
If all right, let's put it outhere.
If anybody wants to be a mod formy ex, I don't even know if that
allows you to do that, but ifanybody wants to be a mod for

(02:20:54):
our ex that knows how to grow X,hit me up.
Shoot a message to one of ourDiscord mods or to me, and we'll
get it going.
Because I don't even know why Icontinue to do it on X.
It's just it's not reachinganybody, it doesn't grow.
And nobody interacts.
I get like three people thatinteract.

(02:21:18):
But well, boys and girls, I needto make some videos.
It's oh fuck, it's almost noon.
So yeah, I need to make somevideos and get those out there
so my algorithms will keep goingthe way I need to go.
I asked Grok.
It's all about the algorithm.
Yeah, see?
I have no algorithm on on X.
I think that's the problem.
But hey guys, thank you verymuch.

(02:21:40):
Let me go over to Instagram realquick.
I think I've been neglecting thecomments over there.
I really need somebody that cando this stuff with me.
Uh no, I didn't miss anything.
I didn't miss anything.
Beautiful.
I do need to figure out.
Well, uh Evan Evan D.
Evandro, Toronto.

(02:22:01):
Hi from Canada, Constable, andDe Oliveria.
Oliveria.
What's up, Canada?
My old stomping grounds.
I'm originally from Michigan,used to go into Windsor and
Toronto all the time.
Didn't even need a passport backin the day.
But yeah, everybody in the chat,thank you for joining.

(02:22:23):
This was impromptu.
Um, we had fun.
Uh Marine Blood said, We don'thave any mods over there on X.
Feel free to draft me.
Um Lacey said, put three eyeatlas in the title, Eric.
Yeah, right.
Uh, Instagram isn't important.
I love my Instagram.

(02:22:44):
You shut your mouth, sir.
But yeah, everybody, thank youfor joining us.
Again, if you want to supportus, like, subscribe, follow.
That really does help us out aton.
Share us with somebody, get thema join on.
Um, if you really love whatwe're doing, again, um, go to
the buy me a cup of coffee,which Marine Blood will put in
the chat, um, or go to ourYouTube and support a membership

(02:23:06):
there.
All of that does help us out.
Um, I might have to replace thecamera here soon because as you
can see, it is wobbling back andforth.
And there's no earthquakes oranything going on.
I don't know what the deal is.
But all right, guys.
Appreciate y'all.
Have a good night.
Um, and see you Monday night forour live stream for the Ego
class.

(02:23:26):
Take it easy.

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