Cops and Auditors: Finding Common Ground

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Speaker 1 (00:35):
Disclaimer.
Thank you for listening.
All right, welcome back to Cops1.
Donut, I'm your host, sergeantEric Levine.
I got with me, as always, myco-host Banning Sweatland and,

(00:58):
once again, anthony Christianjumping back on Badge 502.
What's up, buddy?
What's going on, baby?
How you doing Living the dream,sir?
We, we invited him last minute.
Uh, like we do a lot of peopleand just like, hey, how many
people we got tonight.
Uh, 11 minutes later than thefirst time.
Yeah, exactly, and I was like,uh, banning, let's, uh, let's

(01:19):
throw some invites out there.
So there's some invites, we'llsee who joins us.
Um, but this is what we gottonight.
Um, first and foremost, I wantto put out a thank you and an
apology at the same time for thelaw enforcement um officer hall
of fame that we did.
We worked with the internet wehad and then it turned out we

(01:39):
had a huge delay in our what wewere saying versus what our lips
were showing.
And it's live baby, it is whatit is.
We did.
We did the best we could withwhat we was given.
We are hoping we can clear allthat up next year.
Banning what do you got on that?

Speaker 3 (01:55):
maybe, maybe I just need to call elon, see if we
can't get a little starling setup every time we do that and fix
that bro yeah I'm sure there'ssome numbers in the white pages
and I can just yeah look realquick and hammer that out yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:09):
So what we were trying to say when we were out
there, guys, is, um, that wasn'ta, that, that whole hall of
fame thing.
It's not a.
Oh, look at us, we're policeofficers, we're a great thing.
What it is is, it's otherpeople, other officers, whatever
, putting other people up fortrying to be nominated and
honored for a crazy heroic story, the shit that you would want

(02:33):
to see from your cops.
And we had one of them.
What was her name?
Linda Lisa.
I could be way off the theblack female.
They got shot three times.

Speaker 3 (02:44):
Oh gosh, yes, yeah, got shot three times oh gosh.

Speaker 1 (02:45):
Yes, yeah, I'm blanking on her name, but I had
just met her that night.
Anyway, um, like her storycrazy, went into a domestic
violence.
Uh call, uh, partner gets shot,she gets shot three times.
They still were able to get thebad guy and get that lady out
of an abusive relationship.
And that is the type of storiesyou guys need to hear.

(03:07):
Nobody ever hears about it, andthen it doesn't do us any good.
Shout out to the LawEnforcement Hall of Fame, but it
doesn't do us any good if theonly people that are hearing it
are other cops, because that'skind of what was there.
So I am hoping to help spreadtheir stories.
So you guys, you know me, Ilike to show the bad but also
highlight the good.
So that's what we were tryingto do.

(03:27):
But I am going to the comments.
Seeing everybody that's on heretonight.
Let's go down the list.
Constitution of the country.
Girl news.
She was one of the first oneson um ward jumped in.
Harrison brock joining in.
Uh, who else?
We got Mama G in the house.
I think my mom's actually on.
I'm not sure.

(03:47):
We got some people visitingfrom LinkedIn Alex Garcia
probably jumping on off ofBanning's page there.
We also welcome Anthony's pagebecause he's got his linked up,
so all his YouTube followersgive him a shout out there,
anthony.

Speaker 2 (04:04):
What's going on my knuckleheads?
I hope you guys are having anamazing, amazing day.
Thank you guys so much forhanging out with me while I was
posting 6,000 freaking storiesto my socials for the past week.
It's been a crazy week, man.
My guys came in and forced thisweek.
It was pretty awesome.

Speaker 1 (04:22):
I'm reading Harrison Brock's comment.
Freeman Keyes said damn, eric,did someone give you shit about
that?
You did nothing wrong and thestream was workable.
Yeah, we did get a little bitof feedback from some people.
One of the things that got alot of feedback was my mic, so I
changed my mic out with adifferent mic, so hopefully it's
not cutting in and out again.
I do listen to the feedback,y'all, and I try to deal with it

(04:45):
when I can.
Harrison Brock did everyoneelse cancel and Badge 502 was
the last option.

Speaker 2 (04:52):
Yes, it's not that everyone else canceled and I was
the last option.
Everyone else canceled and Iwas the first to respond.

Speaker 1 (04:58):
Oh because he's a first responder.
See what he did there.

Speaker 2 (05:03):
That was vastly more intelligent than what I said.

Speaker 1 (05:08):
Oh, steve Laidner, he's on.
He got cut off today on ourYouTube channel comment section.
He was not being the nicestdude, but I'll give him a chance
on the live.
This is a different sort ofplatform, steve, so I'll let you
.
He said freedom of speech isfreedom of speech, but I'm
guessing self-proclaimed heroesdon't understand this.
So this is where we got started, steve, I'm gonna give you the

(05:30):
whole three strike rule.
Buddy, um, I, I am completelyopen for discussions.
I just uh, when you keep usingthe self-proclaimed heroes which
none of us do that and none ofthe people you're talking about
you've ever heard say thatYou're basically speculating and
lying In that defamation ofcharacter that you're doing.

(05:52):
We're just not going to allowthat to happen.
I'm going to give you anopportunity.
This is strike one.
You got two more strikes.
If you don't want to do that,we're just going to ignore you.
I do give everybody theopportunity to speak their piece
, but if you're going to bedisrespectful, bud, it's just
the way it's going to go.
Here you are the choice isyours, as they say.

Speaker 2 (06:12):
You are so much nicer to your poo-poo sayers than I
am, oh man.
I'm like you know what?

Speaker 1 (06:20):
I am optimistic at heart and I feel that if I give
you the opportunities and yousee that I'm being genuine I'm
hoping that we can discuss likewe're having a beer.
That's how I tell everybody.
I want to sit down because Iknow the problems that you may
have with policing.
If we sat down and bullshittedover it with a beer in front of
us, it would be a good time andwe would be able to get a real

(06:42):
discussion going.

Speaker 2 (06:47):
But the way some people come across when they
talk on the internet, they justget so used to that and they
think that that's how everybodyelse is going to talk with them.
I'm not that way.
I'm just not going to peoplelike that.
You'd be surprised how much wehave in common yeah, yeah,
exactly.

Speaker 1 (06:58):
Um, joseph said good evening.
Way too many tasers beingdeployed this year without a
cover officer.
Oh, that's a good take.
I have actually kind of I kindof agree with that.
I've seen that quite a bitlately.
Um, oh, I can never say thisgirl's name correctly, so I'm
just gonna go with lofton.
How do you cocesh, coceshia,coceshia?

(07:21):
I don't know, I'm not gonnasound like that.

Speaker 2 (07:23):
key and Peele, key and Peele.
Yeah, right.

Speaker 1 (07:26):
Yeah, balake, you mean Blake Blake.
What up Steve Wallace Goingthrough the comments here?
1a stops the government fromstopping speech.
This is a private stream andnot a government stream.
Yeah, that's true, that is true.
Private stream and not agovernment stream.
Yeah, that's true, that is true.
I'm having a beer Dig FreemanKeys.

(07:49):
That's what I'm talking about.
What's great is I know myaudience will only put up with
so much from trolls, so I don'thave to say a whole lot.
So that's what's good, becauseI have a very diverse crowd, pro
and anti-cop.
I don't want to say anti-cop,but they don't care for most
police and so they like that.
They get to say their piecehere and have real dial dialogue

(08:12):
, so they won't put up with thetrolls either.
But, um, let's get into.
Uh, anthony's.
Anthony had quite the weekendand I want to.
I want to highlight thatbecause you got an award, sir.
I did me me please.

Speaker 2 (08:29):
No pictures, no pictures, please no, it was an
insane weekend, so what did youget an award for?
so I got an award for, uh,public health care, uh, through
the spread, the cheerorganization, uh, at the cheer
choice award, which is out ofthe palms casino, out in vegas.
Never been to vegas, never beenthat side of the mason dixon
line or the whatever fourcorners or whatever.

(08:50):
Um, but it's.
It's been a wild weekend beingin in my type of content
creation, where I'm constantlyinteracting with creators that
are are vastly different sectorsof the internet.
You know, we have like righthere, right here I'm talking
with first responders, I talkwith people who make content of
all different types, and to beable to be in the same room with

(09:10):
them and interact and just feellike you're just part of the
crew, part of the ship, is justa really cool experience.
We went out there on Thursday.
I think it was Flew outThursday or Friday.

Speaker 1 (09:23):
There's nobody in the room with you.

Speaker 2 (09:25):
So that's weird.
There is With both of my dogswho don't want to pay attention,
and the cat suit, and the catsuit too.
But yeah, we got out there.
It was a weekend long event.
So we did a what was the firstnight.
First night was the casinonight, so that was kind of cool.

(09:45):
That was also for charity, sothere's a bunch of bunch of
games set up, full, full-blowntable games, but it was all for
charities, all muck money andall went to charity, um.
And then the next day we did apool party and then a club night
at the end which was a uh, afire and ice themed uh, I guess,
club night, which was reallycool.
That would be neat uh were you?

Speaker 1 (10:05):
were you?
Were you Scorpion or Sub-Zero?

Speaker 2 (10:08):
I was decked out.
I could pull up the picture.
I was decked out all in redblack t-shirt, a very real iced
out.
Watch, it wasn't real, it wassuper plasticky.

Speaker 1 (10:20):
But it looked good in pictures.

Speaker 2 (10:21):
It looked good in pictures.
Yeah for the one picture that Itook with it because it was
supremely uncomfortable.
It's not a good picture.
We kind of get the idea it'sboom Red it out Look at you,
that looked almost velvety, sir.
It was very smoking jacket-y.
Thank you so much, keyes.
I see you up there.
Thank you.
Then the final night thatculminated with the actual Cheer

(10:46):
Choice Awards, which is it's afull blown Oscar style show and
just wild and just got downthere, got to meet a whole bunch
more people, get interviewedand they make you, they really
make you feel?
like somebody in a world of youknow self-flagellation.

(11:07):
You know, yeah, but uh, but itreally was.
It was a great time and we werelucky to bring it home and I
was able to bring it home forthe batch 502 community.
I got the best community in theworld and they really deserve it
, it was a community, communitystyle award where I I said I say
it's a community award because,like, if I did something, if it
was a me award, like I'd dosomething cool and I get an
award for it.
Right, like you get a whatever,you get a purple hearts because
you got shot.
You know you get a medal ofmedal of honors because you did

(11:27):
something dope and they rewardyou for it.
This is the community comingtogether.
They want you to get this award.
So it's a full family award andit was just really cool to be
able to represent them out there.

Speaker 1 (11:36):
It's cool that you say that, because that's exactly
what the law enforcement hallof fame thing was that we saw.
I highlighted highlighted TomSmith.
He's on from Gold Shields, goldShields, gold Shield Podcast.
Make sure you guys check outTom Smith.
He was actually honored twoyears ago and then he got to
kind of host and give someawards out this year.

(11:59):
That was pretty cool.
He was the.

Speaker 3 (12:01):
MC.

Speaker 1 (12:04):
He's got that thick New York accent.
He's just like every characteron Blue Bloods, Jordan.
What's up, buddy?

Speaker 3 (12:12):
He is the gold show guy's man, or solid gold, no pun
intended, good dudes.

Speaker 1 (12:19):
Yep, yep.

Speaker 2 (12:20):
Jordan.
The goose of consequence hasarrived.

Speaker 1 (12:24):
Andy Fletcher's in the house.
There's a gal that laughs atthat show, steals workers,
rednecks, etc.
What?
There's a oh roughnecks, yeah,yeah, my bad, I was like I don't
get that.
Tim's giving steve ladner thethe business over here.
He's going after him, love,love it.
Mama G's backing him up.

Speaker 2 (12:48):
The reinforcements are here, yeah.

Speaker 3 (12:50):
Somebody said something about Alan, and no,
alan's not in the backgroundtonight, right?

Speaker 1 (12:55):
No, no, it's all me.

Speaker 3 (12:57):
He's like two miles from me right now and he's doing
his business stuff.
Right now.
I'm down here at the TexasChiefs Association Conference
and it's a great conference.
But yeah, I think we wanted totalk a little bit about the Hall
of Fame, did you not?

Speaker 1 (13:12):
Yeah, I want to talk about that and what you got
going on out there, but we canhit the Hall of Fame first
because you are a board memberfor it.
So why don't you give everybodya little rundown of how long,
or whatever, it's been going onand what it all entails?

Speaker 3 (13:28):
I know they're watching.
I believe this is the seventhyear and it may be the eighth,
so if Banning's wrong I'll slapmyself later.
Let me tell you something.
Megan, the founders of this,and Adam Megan Stockburger and
Adam Davenport out of Toledo,Ohio, founded the National Law

(13:48):
Enforcement Officer Hall of Fame.
That's the entire name of itand it's freaking amazing.
So Megan's father was adetective for many, many years
in Toledo.
Of course, he was patrol atfirst, et cetera, and I became a
successful detective.
We found each other on LinkedInthrough some mutual friends and

(14:09):
they saw that I had a littlebit of a voice on LinkedIn and
they had this amazingorganization that was honoring
top tier these officers.
To go above and beyond, Some ofthese are, unfortunately, after
death that we award people with.
Unfortunately, after death thatwe award people with, and,
knowing that the board ourselveswe don't decide who the award

(14:29):
winners are.
We get hundreds of submissionsfrom around the country all year
long and these go to a thirdparty, and that's the way it
should be.
You know, the board membersshould not be selecting who does
this, and I think the people,the exterior people that do this
do a fantastic job and peoplecan be like oh, you're cops

(14:51):
planning for everything acrossthe country and this and that.
Let me tell you something,there's never really been there.
You know some PDs have awards,ceremonies et cetera, but this
truly highlights the amazingthings that officers are doing
across this country.
And I 100% agree that the Hallof Fame needed to exist and now
that it does, it's amazing.
And for these men and womenthat get entered into this and

(15:14):
canines, by the way, that getentered into this it's frigging
amazing.
And when you go watch this, Imean this is bucket list item
stuff for officers that havedone a long career to be able to
go sit in the audience and seethe recognition these guys and
gals truly deserve.
I mean, Eric, you've been theretwice now.
What's your words for beingthere two times in a row, even

(15:37):
though you're doing a podcastwhile you're there?
How does it hit you to seesomething like that?

Speaker 1 (15:42):
Well, I can tell you, at the beginning I'm so
stressed out because I'm tryingto get everything going.
But for me it's one of thosethings where I self-reflect and
realize that I am soinsignificant in law enforcement
when I hear the stories thatsome of these guys do.
Because it isn't just thisperson went out and got shot.

(16:03):
It's things like that chiefthat we talked to.
That was the chief after.
Was it george floyd, or was it?

Speaker 3 (16:11):
uh, no, I believe it was after george floyd, I think
it was?

Speaker 1 (16:14):
yeah, it was he.
He was the chief after georgefloyd in in I can't remember
where, but wherever it happened.
Um, and then uh, like he hadthis huge community outreach
program that he was doing andwas super successful in, and it
was the community that helpedget him elected for the hall of
fame this year.
Like that, to me, isawe-inspiring.

(16:34):
That's exactly why I like beinga part of this stuff, because
you, you see that it's not just,it's like the things that I'm
trying to do are nothingcompared to what some of these
people have been out there doing, not just for's like the things
that I'm trying to do arenothing compared to what some of
these people have been outthere doing, not just for that
award, but their whole career.
So that's pretty cool.
Are you able?

Speaker 3 (16:51):
to throw up maybe a couple pictures.

Speaker 1 (16:53):
Um, let's, let's, let's talk about dj daniel first
I say I think I got one pictureready to go.
Um, let me, I first I want togive a shout out because, uh,
constitutional country girlgifted five memberships, which
is perfect timing because and Iwill tell you why um, we got
five people that got one.
Uh, no, marine blood did notget one.

(17:14):
So everybody drink, um, and uh,we, yeah, salute, and I am not
drinking smoke wagon tonight.
Guys, it's officially summerfor me anyway, and I switched
over to tequila.

Speaker 5 (17:27):
Oh, ooh.

Speaker 1 (17:28):
Very well, so I've got me some Casa Amigos Anejo.

Speaker 2 (17:34):
Casa Amigos is nice.

Speaker 1 (17:35):
Oh Anejo too.

Speaker 2 (17:36):
You got a little color in your tequila too.

Speaker 3 (17:38):
Yes, sir, I'm boring.
Tonight I just have carbonatedwater.

Speaker 1 (17:45):
No splash of lime sir .

Speaker 2 (17:49):
I'm babysitting the rest of that bottle from last
week oh nice.

Speaker 1 (17:54):
FYI, I think Kingslayer sent me a message
today saying he's willing to beon.
He has a mic and a camera.
So, kingslayer, if you're stillwilling to be on, I told you
guys our members.

Speaker 2 (18:05):
I'll switch over to the side here.

Speaker 1 (18:07):
I appreciate it.
I'll let you guys jump on.
We don't have a huge agendatonight, so I apologize for that
.
But what I was trying to get atfor timing, hey, we just posted
the Matt Thornton episode, theinterview with Matt.
So what we did is somethingunique.
I don't post the full episodesanymore.

(18:27):
I stopped doing that a fewyears back because it kills my
algorithms.
But what doesn't mess with thealgorithms and is kind of a
bonus for those that do havememberships is I'm going to post
the important episodes, likewith Matt.
Matt's an important episode.
So if you want to watch thefull episode, all you got to do
is have a membership.
So if you get a membership, youcan watch the full thing.

(18:49):
But if not, I don't want to beunfair and not let, because I
think Matt's out trying to doreally good things and I think
he deserves to be heard for free.
You can listen to the fullaudio for free.
Go to Apple, go to Spotify orany of the other things that we
have it on and you can listen toit.
So, but if you kind of want tosupport the cause, we gave you a
little bit more so you canwatch along because you know,

(19:09):
Matt's a good looking dude.
Why wouldn't you not want towatch Matt?
So we got that going on.
So if you guys want everybodythat got memberships tonight you
obviously are now have accessto watch that full episode, and
I wish we could have got him onhere tonight.

Speaker 3 (19:25):
Is.

Speaker 1 (19:25):
Marine Blood episode and I wish we could have got him
on here tonight.
Is marine blood on here?
I heard somebody, is he odd?

Speaker 3 (19:29):
that makes it even better, and separate by devil
dog, if you're still on with usappreciate being right.

Speaker 1 (19:32):
Uh, speaking of devil dogs, our other devil dog is,
um uh, mr bill fold.
I don't see him on yet.
He must be a busy dude tonight.
So is here's what it is.
Shotguns and tattoos anddrinking some watermelon vodka
and Truly I don't even know whatthat is.
Truly is like a seltzer.
Oh, the static water, yeah.

Speaker 5 (19:53):
Yeah, yeah, yeah Static water, I like it.

Speaker 3 (19:55):
You know two cops, one donut.
We don't get political at all,but we did have Nicholas Minster
at the Hall of Fame.
Everybody's going to rememberhim from up in Pennsylvania.
He's the first Secret Serviceguy that jumped on at that time
candidate Trump, during theelection.

Speaker 1 (20:13):
Oh, that's right, yeah, and he was there as well.
Speaking of not gettingpolitical yeah yeah.

Speaker 2 (20:21):
Very not political.

Speaker 3 (20:24):
And this young man, just so those of you who don't
know I don't think he turned onyour TV at all in the past few
months, but that's DJ Daniel andhe's been kind of indoctrinated
by a lot of police departments,including the Secret Service.
The young man has gone throughso many medical feats and for
him to still smile and want tobe a police officer is what

(20:46):
drives my heart and and kind ofencapsulates my career.
I know, eric all of us whatwe've done to see him still
standing and wanting to be apolice officer is amazing and
for him to come to this eventand the poor kid's been all over
the country and everybody wantsto get a picture with him.
I was like a child when I sawhim and I'm like high five and

(21:08):
I'm like, hey, man, uh, can Iget a picture with you?

Speaker 6 (21:11):
yes, yes you did?

Speaker 5 (21:12):
he looked at me and he goes.

Speaker 3 (21:13):
Take your hat off.
As long as you're not bald,I'll take a picture with you I
love it he's got a sense ofhumor oh yeah, he throws burns
all day.

Speaker 1 (21:22):
Oh, that kid is fucking spicy, yeah he was a
burning kid yeah, like I cameover and you know I was getting
ready, I asked him hey, can Iget a picture with you?
I had the patch in my hand buthe wasn't looking right and he
goes.
Sounds kind of sus me getting apicture with the dude yeah, it
was awesome man started laughing.

(21:42):
I goes well, I come bearinggifts, sir, and he I said it's
pretty much the best patchyou've ever seen and I turned it
and showed it to him and hiseyes lit up.
So I knew I had him.
I was like hell yeah, here wego, wrangled him in Yep, I had
him.
Uh-oh, harrison Brock justtried to gift 10 memberships.
Let's see if it goes through.

(22:07):
He's always doing that.
Oh my God, please, no MarineBlood.
Please, no Marine Blood.
C Piss Off.
Got one.
Christian Holsey, antoine Blair, john Nunnery got one Neon
Sniper Very cool name Lacey R,jeff Parrish, lkm, ryan LeMay
and Cree Gordon.

Speaker 2 (22:22):
All got Everybody drink, still not your boy.
Oh my God, you don't have tocarry me off of this podcast.

Speaker 3 (22:30):
Does he have his settings to where he can accept
a friggin' membership?

Speaker 2 (22:36):
Pardon his strategy.

Speaker 1 (22:38):
I don't know.
I hope so.
Yeah, maybe he's screwinghimself up.

Speaker 2 (22:42):
Ken Harker said.

Speaker 1 (22:45):
Great job, brother Banning, at Hall of Fame.
Appreciate you, ken.
Thank you very much.
Yeah, let's.
Hey, if you can message shit.
I don't know how to do this.
I'm trying to figure out how toget Kingslayer the link so he
can get on Kingslayer.
If you can, private message myInstagram.

(23:09):
Yeah, private message myInstagram if you're on there.
Just let me know if you're onthere and then private message
that and I'll send you a linkand then you can copy that and
put it in or whatever socialmedia platform you have us on.
Let me know, because I don'twant your information to go over
our internet here.

Speaker 2 (23:27):
Strictly on MySpace.

Speaker 1 (23:29):
Yeah, MySpace was the shit boy.
You could put your own music toeverything I'm telling you.

Speaker 2 (23:36):
The thing is, you had to be like an entry-level coder
to have like a reallynice-looking MySpace.
And it was you got it man?

Speaker 1 (23:44):
Yeah, Mine looked like you cut, like you did some
um scrapboarding, likescrapbooking that's what it
looked like.
It's like a little you pasteand put stuff all over it, but
it doesn't look like it flowsvery well so good yeah, so good.
Yeah, I loved it such a nerdyeah you, you log on and right
away.

(24:04):
I think my very first song Iever put on there was Closing
Time.
I don't know why I really likedthat song at the time.
I think that was my first songfor it.

Speaker 2 (24:13):
That song just speaks to me.

Speaker 1 (24:15):
Alright, steve Ladner , you've officially got put in
timeout.
Sir Steve, let me just do thepee-pee wax.
Yeah, let me see here, put userin timeout.
There is a timeout, literally.
That's cool.

Speaker 2 (24:34):
You got put in timeout.

Speaker 1 (24:36):
That's why we can't have nice things, steve.
You did it to yourself, buddy.
I mean, tim said is he evensubscribed?
He actually is subscribed.
I think he won one of those, uh, free.
I think that was harrisonbrock's fault.
He got on through, harrisonbrock.
Um, I love it, tim.
Tim's like just says cops.

(24:56):
These guys don't think thatthey are.
But again, these guys are nothere to speak on how other cops
act and how they are.
They are not here to speak onhow other cops act and how they
are.
They are not self-proclaimedheroes, not at all.
I'm more like a Foo Fightershero.
Foo Fighters, foo Fighters.

Speaker 2 (25:14):
That's such a great, great gang clip.
Is it the accent on Foo or theaccent on Fighters?
It's actually on Fighters,ladies and gentlemen, foo
Fighters, pretty good.
It's actually on fighters,ladies and gentlemen, foo
Fighters, pretty good.

Speaker 1 (25:28):
That's pretty good man.
That was pretty good.
You should have accepted thereward like that it was
inconsolable when I heard that.
That was great, was he on SNLIs that what it was?
Yeah, yeah, there's a video ofDavid Grohl talking about it.

Speaker 2 (25:43):
right, yeah, but there's a video of david grohl
talking about it, right, yeah,but there's a video of another
actor's name will come to me,you know, in 45 minutes, of him
talking about an interactionthat he had with them and it was
just the most amazing thingjohn john pollock.
It was john pollock, he does,he does an amazing freaking,
yeah, walking I like walking,yeah, I like him.

Speaker 1 (26:02):
Uh, what's that joe dirt?
He's like, ah, he's talking tomy friend all wrong, you do it
again.
I'll have to stab you in theeye with a lot of soldering iron
.

Speaker 5 (26:10):
Stab you in the face with a soldering iron.

Speaker 3 (26:15):
He was in Wayne's World too, wasn't he?
Yeah he was in Wayne's World 2.

Speaker 1 (26:20):
He was the debt.
Was he the debt?
No, he was.
Maybe he was one?
No, was he the producer?

Speaker 2 (26:23):
He was the debt.
Was he the debt?
No, he was.
Maybe he was one.
No, was he the producer?

Speaker 1 (26:28):
He was like a record executive, or something like
that, or maybe I'm getting himconfused with somebody.
I can't remember.
I think he was in it, though Ithink he was.
I think he was in the one withCassandra.
Yeah, I had a crush on her,holy cow, a little Tia on her

(26:50):
holy cow a little.

Speaker 2 (26:50):
Uh, tia, yeah, yeah, yeah that was my childhood right
there.

Speaker 1 (26:53):
Sorry, I can't stand up for a minute, guys, I'll be
right back can't get out of thepool now okay, okay, hold on.
You guys chat um.
I've got Demon Kingslayer.
I'm going to send him a link.

Speaker 2 (27:09):
So, Bannon, what was the week like at the Hall of
Fame?

Speaker 3 (27:12):
Man, it was great.

Speaker 2 (27:16):
Besides the actual main heart of the event,
everything around it must havebeen really awesome.

Speaker 3 (27:20):
It was man and I was blessed enough for the Hall of
Fame folks to be able to putboard members up in the Omni
Hotel.
That's not something thatBanning is going to go get on
that hotel is.
They give us a little bit of adiscount, obviously for the
event that's going on there.
The event is very pricey.
Wherever you put that on, it'sa lot of people.
You've got to bring in all thefood.

(27:43):
I mean you get a really nicefrigging several star dinner.
I mean, and the folks that werethere I had buddies of mine
there.
You know you have a sheriff,mark Lamb out of Arizona,
america sheriff was there aswife Janelle, both frigging
sweethearts.
Bill Weyburn, tarrant Countysheriff, he's kind of the the
Mark Lamb of Texas, if you will.

(28:03):
Guy loves his employees, loveshis citizens, tries to take care
of everybody 100%, equally.
Just great people.
And then having people like DJcome, mr Munster, the Secret
Service agent, dj who, no, Ididn't say I said DJ, no, no, I
said DJ and Munster.

Speaker 1 (28:23):
Oh, okay.

Speaker 3 (28:28):
No, no, I said DJ and Munster.
Oh okay, no, johnson is hislast name, but Munster being
there as well.
I mean just to be surrounded bypeople that have gone through
so much strife in their life orexceeded beyond officers that we
personally know is amazing.
I mean, you're sitting, youhave heroes all around you and
I'm just this country bumpkinand municipal cop in a previous
life Are they self-proclaimedheroes.

(28:50):
Right right.

Speaker 1 (28:52):
Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 3 (28:53):
Self-proclaimed heroes.
Here we go.
What's great about these and itdoesn't really get out in
mainstream media, or any mediafor that sense is these people
that get inducted into the hallof fame.
They have no clue.
It's going on yeah I mean thewhole process.
They're just out there stilldoing either day.
They're still cops 100, you know100 of the time, and they get

(29:14):
some and come down and bringtheir spouse and all that and
they're and they're gettinginducted into the hall of fame.
I mean that's I know it's notthe the baseball hall of Fame or
the Football Hall of Famewhatever.
Sports is sports and I lovesports, but whatever.
But these are guys that arejust out there working a job.
They took a frigging oath,they're so far above and to be

(29:35):
in a room full of them, man,yeah.
I hope this rubs off.
I hope I can be as amazing asthese people someday.
That's awesome.

Speaker 1 (29:45):
Well, we got Kingslayer on.
I muted his mic for now becausehe's having camera issues.
I'm going to unmute him, see ifhe can hear us.
Kingslayer, can you hear us,buddy?

Speaker 4 (29:53):
Yes, I can.
Okay, cool, we got a mic.

Speaker 1 (29:56):
Where's that camera at bro?

Speaker 4 (29:59):
It's not working.
I don't know what's going on.
Come on.

Speaker 2 (30:02):
He's got that camera that your other buddy had from
the last episode.

Speaker 4 (30:06):
It's a Logitech something.

Speaker 1 (30:12):
Brio, it's a.

Speaker 2 (30:13):
Brio.
That's actually a good camera.
I got dueling Brios right here,yeah.

Speaker 3 (30:16):
Whatever it is, it's going to be better than my
camera.

Speaker 4 (30:18):
C930E.
It's like.

Speaker 1 (30:20):
That's a 1080p then yeah, yeah, I.
It's a 1080p then yeah, I knowthat camera.
Going over to the comments,we're going to let him
troubleshoot While he's doingthat.

Speaker 3 (30:32):
Freeman Keys asked if I'm wearing one.
I think he's talking about myshirt.
No man, I don't have it with meon this trip.
I've only got one bag I canbring.
I wasn't able to bring it, butI will be wearing it on the next
episode.
I got a I think it's a five 11shirt that I'm wearing tonight.

Speaker 1 (30:50):
There we go, king Slayer.
What's up buddy?
Hey, thanks for coming on.
Man Appreciate you.

Speaker 3 (30:54):
No problem.

Speaker 4 (30:56):
I was.

Speaker 3 (30:56):
I've just been.

Speaker 4 (30:57):
I think it's funny how he came in and criticizing
and it Like I, you just spentlike the last like hour and a
half arguing with me on YouTubecomments.

Speaker 1 (31:07):
But it's, I don't look at it as an argument.
We're discussing, we'redisagreeing, and that's okay.
We could still like listen.
This is the beauty of ourplatform we do not have to agree
.
We don't have to agree on atopic.
That's okay.
That doesn't mean you're wrong.
It doesn't mean I'm right.
We just have to agree on atopic.
That's okay.
That doesn't mean you're wrong,doesn't mean I'm right.

(31:27):
We just don't agree on thatparticular topic.
But we're going to discuss it.
We'll bring it up.
I'm going to actually I thinkit's the same video um, not lane
splitting.
What video were we talkingabout?
inventory, right, inventory yesokay, I just saw your lane
splitting video, yeah, uh, solet me share the screen.
We're going to go to this.
So this was the discussion thatuh kingslayer and I had.

(31:49):
Look at that lovely retro rivalshirt.
Shout out to retro rifle.

Speaker 6 (31:54):
Shameless plug to one of our sponsors oh man they're
such an awesome company yeah, soall right, guys, we'll play

(32:17):
this video that goes by the nameAlaska Audits.
Oh, the meter's up.
No, it's not a meter.

Speaker 1 (32:22):
There's no parking right now?

Speaker 6 (32:23):
Oh yeah, so that gave you a probable cause to go
through his vehicle.
Yeah absolutely Okay.
Hey, now what's your name andaddress number?
Again, Off to you 28241.

Speaker 1 (32:30):
28241.
Okay, thank you, sir.
So I ran across.
All right, we've watched that,okay.
This officer says I didn'tactually have time to fit it in
the video.
How do I stop sharing this?
There we go.
So the officer says he's like,did you have PC to search that?
And he's like, yes, I did.
I am going to speculate, basedon my training and experience,

(32:56):
that he wasn't meaning I had PCto search the vehicle, as in a
probable cause search he had theability to search.
It's actually an exception to asearch warrant to do an
inventory check of the vehicle,which is not a search, which is
not a search, but we'll get intothe elephant in the room on
that, and I think this is whereKingslayer is actually.

(33:17):
I think this is where we justcouldn't connect it as we were
trying to type.

Speaker 4 (33:20):
Yeah, I think it is.

Speaker 1 (33:21):
But so in an inventory.
So this is how this goes as faras I know and I'm not an
attorney, but this is how I'vedone it for as long as I can
remember the car was going to betowed.
So in the fact that the car isgoing to be towed, me as an
officer I'd call a wrecker.
Hey, I got a car that's parkedin a spot it's not supposed to
be.
It can't stay here.

(33:41):
There are some circumstanceswhere a car just can't stay
where it's at, it's blocking,it's doing something, so you got
to move it versus just writinga ticket and walking off.
So as this officer goes to towthis vehicle, he has to check to
make sure it's secure.
So he probably pulled on a doorhandle and it opened.
He's like, ah shit, that's whatI think every time it happens.

(34:03):
I'm hoping all the doors arelocked, because I don't want to
do an inventory, I just want totow it and get it out of there.

Speaker 2 (34:08):
It's a long sheet.

Speaker 1 (34:10):
Yeah.
So now that he opened it he'slike crap.
Now I got to inventory thevehicle because we're liable if
there's any valuables in there.
The last thing we want to findout is this guy's claiming you
know I had a $25,000 Rolexsitting in the center console or
whatever.
We checked the vehicle.
You can't go in anything lockedIf there's a safe in there.
I think somebody brought up asafe.

(34:30):
If there's a safe in there,it's like a little portable and
we can't open it If it's shut.
We just pick it up if it'smovable and that becomes a part
of the inventory.
So you take all that stuff thatyou inventory that's worth
money and you take that to theproperty room and that's where
that person is going to have togo get their stuff, because we
can't trust that car to sit in awhat's the word?

(34:54):
auto pound that's not ours,because it's not going to go to
our auto pound, it's just goingto go to whoever's on top of the
list for the local auto poundGoing to Joe's wrecker.
Yeah, so that's how that goes.
Now the elephant in the room iswhat if he finds something
illegal that's admissible, likethat can go against you?
So now you got to wonder arecops going to do this type of

(35:16):
search, cause it really is asearch Are they going to do that
just because they're trying tofind something illegal?
And I think that would be wrong.
So I'll talk more on it, but Iwant to give Kingslayer his say.

Speaker 4 (35:35):
So I think the disagreement was the releasing
the car after doing theinventory search, because the
way I understand it is that theinventorying a vehicle is
actually a search.
It's just a because the FourthAmendment is unreasonable
searches and seizures.
So it's technically areasonable search.
So it is a search, but it'sjust considered a reasonable

(35:57):
search if you inventory it andthen take it to the impound.
But my problem comes in when,um, when you um search the
vehicle, you're like hey, I'mgonna tow this car.
You search the vehicle.
The person comes out says, hey,this is my car, can I just move
it?
You say, yeah, okay, well thenyou just searched it.

(36:18):
Incident two you're not towingthe vehicle, so you're not
actually impounding the vehicle,so you're searching it without
an impound.
So you, why'd you search thisvehicle?
because I was going to impoundit okay, you know, yeah, that
just that means anytime you haveanything that you can impound

(36:41):
the vehicle over, you can can gowell, I'm going to impound this
, search the vehicle, then justnot even call a record and be
like well, I decided not tobecause it's my discretion.

Speaker 1 (36:52):
Well, that's where it changes.
You can't do that for one.
You absolutely can't do that.
Now, the difference in betweenwhat you're saying and what
happened in this video is theowner actually shows up during
the tow.
So he said hey, call me, I calla wrecker and I'm going to.
I got to impound this carbecause it's blocking or
whatever reason, it's illegallyparked and we can't allow it to

(37:12):
stay here.
So he starts to do hisinventory search and he's like
all right, so he's going throughthe motions and then the owner
shows up and now, with the ownershowing up, that changes things
.
Now he's like like hey, bro, isthis your car?
Like you're not supposed topark here, and then they can
have that discussion, and thisis where the discretion comes in
.

Speaker 2 (37:28):
However, you don't have that discretion until that
owner arrives, until he popssomething yeah, the other option
is, of course, you can have theowner show up on scene and be
like bye, I'm taking your car.
Yeah, yeah, the other thing,you got her option, we'll take
it.

Speaker 1 (37:42):
Yeah, we'll take it and to me that the ladder is a
dick move yeah, it's a real.
Yeah, so, especially when youdo have that discretion.
Yeah, because I trust me.
I think and this is just mespeculating most cops that I
know I don't want to stand thereand tow a vehicle.
It's a pain in the ass and ittakes forever it's 95 degrees.
I want to do fun things, right,I want to do fun things.

(38:02):
So to me the want to do funthings, so to me the owner
showing up, you're like fuckinghallelujah.
Thank you, sir.
This is your car.
You got to move it, dude, likehere's your ticket.

Speaker 4 (38:13):
My problem was in the video.
At least the wrecker wasn'teven there.

Speaker 5 (38:19):
Right.

Speaker 4 (38:22):
So that means the auditor must have walked up
while he was in the car, withthe owner there, but the
wrecker's not there.

Speaker 5 (38:30):
Right.

Speaker 4 (38:31):
So if you call the wrecker, you're waiting next to
the car for the wrecker to comeand the owner walks out and says
hey, that's my car, Can I takeit and move it?
And you say yeah, sure, I'mgonna.

Speaker 1 (38:45):
you know, inventory it first, real quick that's what
it seems like happened in well,I don't think, I think, I don't
think that's what happened.
I think he had inventoried andthen the guy showed up half like
right while he was doing it.
Um, but again we don't know.
That I'm guessing you could beright, I could be right but I
think he was instance.

(39:05):
I agree with you in your, inyour speculation.
I agree with you.
I do think that that would bewrong and you can't do an
inventory.
If you plan to, as soon as inmy mind, I'm going to release it
to the owner yeah it's done.
I can't inventory that.
What do you got to add to that?

Speaker 3 (39:23):
no, it's 100 the same as what eric is saying.
At least you got to add to that.
No, it's a hundred percent thesame as what Eric is saying.
At least we're speaking aboutTexas, but it's the same in a
lot of states and, just like youknow, eric said it's.
The last thing we want to do isdeprive somebody of their
property when it's improperlyparked or in a fire lane or
something like that.
And usually and this is justBanning speaking when I pulled
up to something like that andI'm dealing with something or a

(39:44):
car's broke down, I getdispatched to try to contact the
registered owner and they havethree to five different ways
that they can do that, usingdifferent companies like Lexus
or Accurant, lexus, nexus, towhere they'll type that plate in
the VIN number.
They're going to try to getphone numbers.
We try to get a hold of theowner to where we're not costing

(40:05):
them money.
The last thing we want to do isthat.
But you know, if a fire marshalcomes in, it's straight up.
Call me a wreck, we'll get thisout of here.
Now it's a fire lane, it's gone, and that's just one example.
You know, broken down on theside of the road, If that back
tire is in the lane, now I cankill somebody.
So we got to get a tow truckstarted there.
Now I'm down.
I've had my vehicles towed twicein my life.

(40:27):
I'm not the type of guy that'sgoing to be like oh I'm a cop,
I'm off duty and this is my carand I'm broke as hell because I
am a cop and I can't get itmoved yet.
But I've got, I've got a recordcoming.
That's had to tell people likethat.
But we do our due diligence andI'm speaking for me and Eric

(40:48):
and most of the people we haveon this podcast.
We care about everybody we dealwith.
And once you exhaust allmeasures and you say, start me a
record, we've got to do that.
And once you say, start me arecord now.
It's costing that privatebusiness money to pay that
driver of a private business tocome there and and with it
depends on the departmentalprocedures, sops, general orders

(41:12):
, whatever laws that they'refollowing on.
If you can cancel one, I wouldlove to you know.
The record has been coming forfive minutes.
Owner shows up hey, I ran outof gas.
I've got my gas Now I'vecanceled.
I, hey, I ran out of gas.

Speaker 2 (41:23):
I've got my gas now I've canceled I don't know how
many records.
Yeah, I've definitely had tomake a few calls and cancel it.

Speaker 3 (41:27):
You bet and it sucks for that record company because
now they're out, whatever youknow the driver's salary, the
maintenance of the vehicle forthat five minutes of driving it
gets expensive when you own acompany.

Speaker 1 (41:51):
But if they come back and they can move the car, we
can cancel the record, dependingon the departmental policies
across the country.
Well, let's get into the thethe dirty part of it, because we
know it's happened.
There's cases of it whereofficers are using inventory to
search a car, like to absolutelydirty search a car, and that
gets into.
There's checks and balances,you know what I mean.
Like there's, there's way, likeI was telling Kingslayer, if I
call for a wrecker that stays inroute until I have an actual

(42:15):
justification of why I canceledit, it can't be.
Here comes the wrecker.
I do my inventory, sure.
So I'm like, fuck, I didn'tfind anything good.
I canceled the wrecker, I'mjust going to write a ticket.

Speaker 2 (42:26):
I can't imagine them canceling it and being like just
leave your car exactly where itis yes, that will be
investigated, so so yeah, mything is everything you guys
said I agree with.

Speaker 4 (42:39):
It's just the.
I think the disagreement comeswith the.
When should you inventorysearch?

Speaker 2 (42:47):
When.

Speaker 4 (42:47):
Okay.
So like if you call a wrecker,say, hey, I'm calling a wrecker
If you can cancel it, you justwait until the wrecker gets
there.
Right when the wrecker putsdown the bed, Okay, now I'm
going to inventory search,because then the wrecker's there
, the bed's down, this thing'sgoing up, okay.
So then you go, okay, I'm goingto inventory search, because
then the record's there, thebed's down, this thing's going

(43:08):
up, okay.
So then you go, okay, I'm goingto inventory search.
So even if the um owner comesout, well, the record's already
there, the car's already, youknow, ready to go.
It's like, well, it's, it'salready, you know, we've already
reached this point versus youknow you've called the wrecker.
You're like, okay, I'm gonnainventory search now.
And then you start inventorysearching and then the owner

(43:29):
walks up and he's like, hey,this is my car, you know well,
you're, you've inventoried it.
So now it has to be impoundedbecause so.
So your, your gripe would bemore so once that inventory is
completed at that, at that pointthat's yeah, that's the line,
line the dividing line is thisvehicle is now being transported

(43:50):
, because if it's not beingtransported and taken, then now
you've searched the vehiclewithout the ability to inventory
it, so now it's a non-inventorysearch.

Speaker 1 (44:09):
Okay, I do see where you're coming from.

Speaker 2 (44:12):
I'd be willing to bet that that's so.
You know how they talk about.
You have three branches ofgovernment.
You have your executive, yourlegislative and your judicial.
I guarantee you that, as anexecutive person executing a law
, I guarantee you that someonewith a law degree would argue
that, sure, you'd be going rightto court with that.
Whether you want or not, that'sthe.

Speaker 3 (44:33):
Thing.
And I'm going to tell you rightnow and we don't know each other
.
I mean, this is the first timeyou've been on our show is.
I've only had one incidentwhere I'm searching something
and came up with some seeds andstems in a cellophane wrapper
that was in the driver's seat.
The car was unlocked so I haveto inventory, put the property
on there.
Owner shows up hey, this is mycar.

(44:53):
I'm like hey, this is you know,this is was on the driver's
seat Is this yours?
Type of thing.
And and the tow truck was notthere yet.
But since the tow truck wasabout to pull up, what I did is
I put that in property becausethe window was cracked a little
bit I don't know if somebodywalked by and threw that in
before I.
I you know the guy said itwasn't his um, even though the

(45:15):
car was unlocked.
So I can't sit there and say itwas.
So what I did is I took thoselittle seeds and stems and did
not have a suspect.
Um, obviously it's narcotics,so you're not gonna have a
victim on it.
And that was property andnobody you know nobody received
a ticket.
I was able to give the car backto the gentleman and was able
to cancel the tow truck.
Tow truck wasn't happy but I'msorry.

(45:37):
The guy came back.
It was a gas issue on the carand nobody got charged for it.
But I can't sit there and takea what Texas considers as a as a
illegal substance still andgive it back to somebody.
And I can't leave it in the car.
But it was put into propertyand eventually put up for what's
called destruction.

Speaker 4 (45:56):
Yeah, I understand and I agree with that it's.
It's just one of those thingswhere it's like you know, if
you're searching the car and youdon't take it, you've unwarrant
.

Speaker 3 (46:06):
You've searched the car without probable cause, Sure
, and that's where inventorydoes become a search, if your
reason for towing the vehicleerases.
So anything I believe and I'mnot an attorney that's found
between that and an arrest ismade can be considered what's
called fruits of the poisonoustree.
So we can sit here and go.

(46:27):
You know, like I said, I'm notan attorney on this at all, but
I'm not going to arrest orincriminate or put charges to a
DA if that, if the inventorysearch disappears, does that
make sense?
So it's, it's going to go onproperty but nobody can go pick
up, you know, unless, unless theyou know, the police

(46:47):
department's willing to gofingerprinted and write a
warrant further down the road.
This and that because we didhave the legal ability to get in
there for an inventory.
This was found.
But I don't know of many policedepartments that's going to do
many resources on stuff likethat and I understand where
you're coming from and most Ihate to use the word educated
officers are not going to make awrong call on that.

Speaker 1 (47:10):
Yeah, and it's also man, everything's about time
saving.
I hate to say it that way, butif I wait till the tow truck
driver gets there, now that towtruck driver is going to be
pissed and I'm going to have todeal with that complaint.
You're damned if you do, damnedif you don't.
All the way around, you wait,cool.
Now the guy shows up he didn'thave to search shit and he gets

(47:32):
to take his car, but now the towtruck driver just gets there.
Or you wait and the tow truckdriver gets there, and now
you've got to make him waitwhile you tow, and everything
about his night is how many carshe tows in a night.
Um so, and then you go into acitizen's rights, which should
be our main priority, and Ithink that's what kingslayer's
saying, like, bro, if you got away to avoid looking through my

(47:53):
shit, don't look through my shit.

Speaker 4 (47:54):
And I agree, but the weird one about this if you
can't legally look into my shit,don't look into my shit but
that is a legal look.

Speaker 1 (48:02):
Yes, but that's what I'm arguing is that was a legal
look my.

Speaker 4 (48:06):
My argument it was it was an illegal look because he
didn't impound it.

Speaker 2 (48:10):
So it's not an inventory search, it's a search
right and you know that's as, assomeone who, so I don't know
how much you know about me, butI'm I'm an emt, I'm a 911
dispatcher.
I never went to police academyand I promise you I sure as hell
didn't go to law school.
But your question is completelyvalid.

(48:31):
Just so in case anybody elsehasn't mentioned that your
concern is reasonable, becauseone of the basis of this country
are your fundamental rights.
So I absolutely understandexactly what you're saying and,
as someone who stands on themconsistently, I absolutely
respect that.
But the only slight would be ifsomeone says you know well, you

(48:53):
know exactly.
That argument is you know, youdidn't need to search my car.
If you're going to, let me havethe car, that officer is going
to be like all right then I'mnot giving you the car and
they'll do that.
I'm not saying that Sarge andBanning will do that, but I can
guarantee you that there'sofficers that are out there
that'll just be like oh okay,you want to dance yeah.

Speaker 3 (49:13):
And it's all going to fall back on administrative
paperwork on what the rules andregs are, because when we're
doing that tow, it's notnecessarily a criminal tow, but
when you enter thatadministrative mode of towing
somebody's personal property,now you have vicarious liability
on the officer for things thatcan go missing, and then you

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have liability on the departmentitself.
Oh man, I had $50,000 in there.
I own a bar.
I locked it underneath thedriver's seat and I went to get
gas really fast and you canthink about how that enters it
as well.
So you've got to literally goin there and look at everything.
Okay, we've got a bag ofdiamonds in the back.
It's got 28 little tinydiamonds in it and you're doing

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that on your tow sheet.
Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.
And I'm going to take itbecause the monetary value is so
high.
It's going to go into propertyand a good officer is going to
put that in front of his bodycamera.
He's counting everything out.
This is what I got, and thesecould be cubic zirconias or
diamonds.
We're not jewelers, but we'regoing to put them in little
crystallized substances andwe're not.
Most of these guys haven't seeneither one of those things and

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we're going to put you know,this is just, you know, reaching
, but it can happen and ithappens on a daily basis.
So we we're covering our butt,covering our police department's
butt and but, like you said yes, I understand where you're
coming from when that inventorystops, depending on the
paperwork that the officer hasto follow on his department and
whatever's in that rule book isgoverned that he has to follow

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that.
But if it ends, it ends.
And if it's a good officerwhich 99.9% of them are good it
should stop.
And that just goes intoproperty, whatever illicit
compound that they found, and itgoes into property for either
destruction or seizure,depending on what it is.

Speaker 1 (50:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (51:00):
Andy, oops, sorry, I was going to say that's exactly
why I agree with the inventorysearches.

Speaker 1 (51:07):
You do or you don't.

Speaker 4 (51:08):
I do.
I do agree with inventorysearches.
I just it's that I don't thinkwhat that officer in the video
did was an inventory search.
I just think it was a non-PCT,unwarranted search of the
person's vehicle.

Speaker 1 (51:21):
Because he didn't tow it.

Speaker 2 (51:23):
Because he didn't, because he didn't Correct.

Speaker 1 (51:31):
Because search of the person's vehicle because he
didn't tow it, because he didn't, because he didn't correct,
because it's not impounded, itis not an inventory search,
right?
Um, so here's another questionI post to you do you know that
when that car is impounded, onceit's on the truck and goes,
it's out of the police officers?
custody, so I understand that sowhen I guess the semantics go
into is when the search actuallyshould occur.
So in this one he thought thecar was there.

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He didn't know if it had beenthere all night.
He didn't know if it had beenthere a couple minutes, that
doesn't matter.
But he probably ran the plate,put it in the system, checked it
takes a while.
He didn't just go up to it andwas like I'm gonna open the door
and see if I can get it, andlike he didn't just do that, I
promised that I, I, I, he, Iaccept that yeah, he probably

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dragged his feet, hoping, likejust what I said, that the owner
did show up so he could just belike, all right, uh, now I can
get rid of this.
And uh, it didn't happen.
So he's like, fuck, I'm gonna,I'm going to have to tow this
thing.
So he calls for a wrecker.
And as he's going through it,then dude shows up.
Now that sucks because, like Isaid, that comes down to who do

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you want to be a dick to?
You want to be a dick to thecitizen that's right there and
is able to take his car, butaccording to you and the way
that you want an inventory done,I mean he was impounding that
car.

Speaker 4 (52:48):
My thing is the officer's in a lose-lose
situation.
Either way, thank you.

Speaker 1 (52:53):
That's all I wanted to hear.

Speaker 4 (52:57):
I am not making bones about it.
The officer in my situation isin a lose-lose because the
person walks up says hey, hey,that's my car.
Well, you've.
You're now inventorying thatcar, which means you are
impounding that car.
That car is going to impoundbecause you are taking this
stuff out, documenting it,because it is going to the

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impound.
If it was not going to theimpound, you would not have the
right to search that car rightso if you release, if you
release it.
Well, now you looked at thatstuff not to send it to impound,
but to release it back to theperson right, yeah, andy
fletcher jumped on.

Speaker 1 (53:37):
He said only one or only thing is once the owner
shows up, stop inventorying.
I believe he did.
I think what he was doing wasgoing and shutting the doors,
that's he was.

Speaker 2 (53:45):
Saw the owner come up , I guess at that moment, you're
, you are under the impressionof you're under your own
impression, that this vehicle isnow going to be impounded.
So there's no reason for him tostop this search, and but once
that, once that person shows up,no-transcript to not suppose.

Speaker 1 (54:14):
I'm definitely writing a ticket just to cover
my own ass.

Speaker 4 (54:17):
Yeah for sure I think I actually mentioned that the
officer was gonna lose.
Lose in our, in our comments oh, did you.

Speaker 1 (54:22):
Yeah, yeah cuz.

Speaker 4 (54:23):
I said the officers in a lose lose, because either
you know he's impounding the carhe's you know he's costing them
money, he's costing them timeto go get the car, you know even
if he doesn't take it on andsays you know this is just worth
it telling the car so, or theofficers violating the person's

(54:43):
rights.
And while he's at, while heviolated the officer's violating
the person's rights and whilehe violated the person's rights,
he now gives him a ticket.
So it costs him time and moneyto deal with the ticket.
So you've either taken his carwhich costs him time and money,
or violated his rights andcosted him time and money.
Right yeah.
So, the officer's in dickheadposition, either way yeah, that

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I and I agree I.

Speaker 1 (55:09):
I so for us.
I think your argumentabsolutely has to go to court
yeah, that's because I think alitigation it's a really good
argument.
I'm not saying like I can't, I'mnot poking holes in it.
I just don't agree with yourargument.
That's the only difference.
But that's what court'ssupposed to figure out, because
the defense is going to make agood argument and the

(55:30):
prosecution is going to make agood argument.
I think, in what you're saying,I think the courts would have
their hands full.
That's going to be a reallytough fucking call that's at
that point.

Speaker 2 (55:40):
That's a civil civil rights case.

Speaker 3 (55:45):
Yeah, absolutely it is, and there's not much, and I
may be wrong, but I follow caselaw pretty good.
There's not much case law to gooff on that.

Speaker 5 (55:54):
I think, there's like….

Speaker 3 (55:57):
When you stop the inventory versus when the owner
shows up.
Yeah, that's right.
Now you are meaning and I'mspeaking about the officer
you're doing your job up untilthis point.
Owner is now there.
He's the registered owner ofthe vehicle.
He said, hey, I'm here at thisand this and this.
Well, the officer, the officer,has a couple of choices Cut your

(56:18):
citation and be gone.
Or, if you have, you know.
Or if you have, you know, let'sjust let's.
Let's blow this up and make itis what it is.
You have a weapon of massdestruction in that friggin
thing and you've already calleda three letter organization
there and this has got to beinvestigated because this
vehicle was going somewhere tocause extreme violence.

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The only thing the officer hasto go on that is up until that
legal point, till the officerarrives.
Now, once you found that device, if you know what you're doing
as an officer, you stop, you geta warrant, you follow through
with everything.
Now you get that three-letterorganization to come and adopt
that case, et cetera.

(56:59):
But that's an extreme, and I'mjust talking about an extreme
right now.
But if you talk about anextreme, you also have to talk
about the lighter of things.
Maybe there's one little tinyfreaking roach in there.
You know against the law etcetera, but that officer more
than likely is going to takethat and put it into property.

Speaker 1 (57:19):
I wouldn't have seen it.
I wouldn't have seen it,honestly, I know that, but I'm
just covering the entirespectrum.
I don't know what roger looked.
It could be a rolled cigarette,for all I know yeah, I'm not a
drug dog, I'm sorry oh, you'regood, go ahead.

Speaker 4 (57:34):
honestly, I don't think my argument would ever
really make it to like a highlevel in court, because it's
first oh well, you got your carback.
No attorney is going toactually take that civil rights
case because it's not going toget any.
There's not going to be Unlessyou get an Institute for Justice

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or something.

Speaker 1 (57:56):
Don't be so sure.
Every attorney wants their nameto be a part of case law.

Speaker 2 (58:00):
He found a firearm in that car.
He found something severe whenhe was in that car and you're
like, well, look man, youshouldn't have been searching
that car.
You're not towing it.
Well, yes, I should, well, no,I shouldn't.
Yeah, there's gonna be lawyerslying, bro, I think I'm telling
you your argument is that goodlike?

Speaker 1 (58:14):
it's good like it's the way you present that
argument is.
So I read a lot of case law andto me I'm looking at the way
you argue them.
Damn, that would be a fun caseto watch.
That would be a fun case towatch?
Yeah for sure.
I think you're underestimatingyour own argument, because your
argument is fucking deep, that'strue, there's a lot of levels

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to that I consider it to like asearch incident to citation.

Speaker 4 (58:42):
You can't search somebody.
Incident to citation, right,right, no, you can't search
somebody.

Speaker 1 (58:46):
incident to citation, right, right no, you can only
search some incident to arrest,correct Well let's say
somebody's like.

Speaker 4 (58:50):
Well, this is technically what's the lowest
level arrestable offense.

Speaker 1 (58:55):
A class B misdemeanor in Texas.
Technically you can cash bond.

Speaker 4 (59:00):
Yeah.
So what's the most mundanething that you know of?
I could cash bond you onmeeting speeding.

Speaker 1 (59:07):
So let's say, I'm like, I'm taking you before the
judge because I don't believethat you'll appear, because you
refuse to sign your ticket I'mtalking about like trespass,
like not trespassing, but uhlike jaywalking like jaywalking
it would have to turn intosomething, because, I mean,
jaywalking is not an arrestableoffense.

Speaker 3 (59:27):
The only three things that are not arrestable in
Texas and Eric knows these aswell as I do is what is it?
The container in the vehicleRight Speeding?

Speaker 1 (59:40):
Speeding we're talking about, if they sign it.

Speaker 3 (59:43):
And now the new one is texting.

Speaker 4 (59:46):
Okay, so you can technically arrest somebody for
jaywalking, right?
So let's say a police officersaid you know what?
I can arrest this guy forjaywalking.
I'm gonna go, you're underarrest for jaywalking.
So he searched, he searches him, you know, does everything, you
know, does the full searchbecause you are under arrest,
right.
And then says you know what I'mfeeling like a nice guy right

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now, signs him a citation andsays no, that's one thing, even
though the academies could bemuch better.

Speaker 3 (01:00:16):
That is, you can't tit for tat on that.
So if you've made your decisionto arrest and you've done a
search and to arrest, that manor woman that's under arrest has
got to go to jail.
That's that's so.
That's similar, and I'm goingto break off one story on this,
just so you can understand thelaw enforcement side of it.
If I come up to you and you're,you're, you're driving whatever

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vehicle, and I say, hey man,you know I'm going to have you
step out of the car for a second.
You got four or five otherpeople in there and the music's
loud.
I want them to still jam out.
You're their designated driver.
Let them have fun.
Get you out to the back of thecar.
Hey man, do you mind if Isearch your vehicle?
You know what, man?
My attorney's always told me totell you to go fuck off on a

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search and that's your right,right, so me, I'm not going to
violate that right.
But if there's an officer that'squestionable may say well, I
stopped you for not using yourturn signal 100 feet prior to
turn.
I'm going to make the decisionnow, since you denied me that
I'm going to what's calledinstanter.
You on no turn signal.

(01:01:20):
You know now you have just dugas a police officer, dug
yourself into a legal holethat's going to put you in
prison.
So that original reason for thestop, the original probable
cause, okay, you as an officerhave to make that decision right
now.
Am I going to cite this personor am I going to arrest this
person for the criminal drivingoffense that just happened in

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front of me?
Because when anybody has apolice officer light up the red
and blues behind them and theirtheir action stops and they pull
to the right side being safe,that's technically an arrest.
Is it something going on yourrecord?
No, but it's an arrest.
Your movement has stopped.
So the state of texas looks atthat as we've made an arrest
right now, and that's the sameas Oklahoma, louisiana, new

(01:02:04):
Mexico, arizona, california.
And if you go up there and inlieu of going to jail, I'm
writing you either a citation ora warning, or verbal, whatever
it is and releasing you from thescene.
So if I ask you to search thatcar and you tell me to go, pound
sand, like somebody that knowstheir rights can do, and the
officer can't get pissed offabout it in a legal right mind

(01:02:28):
and he decides to use that firstprobable cause, right the way
he stopped you to arrest you.
That's where the red flags comeup.
That is absolutely.

Speaker 4 (01:02:37):
You cannot do that yeah, that that's why I tell
everybody, everybody I meet, Ialways tell them if a cop asks
you a question, say I invoke, Iinvoke my Fifth Amendment, right
.
Because?
Then?
Because there's a case lawwhere if you don't clearly
invoke your rights, you can'tactually.
You know your silence can beused against you.
So if you say I don't answerquestions, you're not invoking

(01:03:00):
your right.
So I tell everybody, if a copasks you a question, say I
invoke my right to remain silentyou actually have the right to
not dig holes if they ask thesearch, search, you say I don't
consent to searches or seizures,right, but if they but comply,
honestly a little liabilitybetween you know, two cops one

(01:03:23):
and the general public.

Speaker 3 (01:03:25):
We're peace officers, right.
So we have the basic knowledge.
We're not attorneys and we wantevery Tom, dick and Harry that
watches the show to protecttheir rights, and that's what
we're here to do.
So we're going to give youstuff based on our career, what
we've seen, what we've done.
We've also seen the bad videosthat y'all have seen out there

(01:03:48):
and what you can do.
And you know I've been stopped.
I'm not the cop that you know.
The flash is a badge and I'vebeen.
I've been.
You know, state trooper asked meto search the car and I looked
at my watch, I checked the timeand I'm like you know what, dude
, go ahead and search.
I knew I had a pack ofMarlboros.
I've got a bad habit.
I've got two cans of Copenhagenlong cuts sitting in there.
I'm like you know what In a bagof clothes.

(01:04:09):
Go ahead and knock yourself out, man.
Next thing, I know two moretroopers show up.
A dog shows up.
I'm going through.
I think it was my first midlifecrisis.
I had a Mustang and I putLamborghini doors on it.
They I knew there's nothing inthere illegal and they're taking

(01:04:31):
apart my battery cover and thehood and this and this and this.
And one of them went back andsearched something.
He's like are you a cop?
And I'm like, yeah, but I'm acivilian.
Right now I'm on the motorwayjust like everybody else.
He asked me to search my carand I've got the time, so go
ahead, you want to see mylicense?
But if your dog didn't indicate, I'm about to end it because
I've got to be somewhere in 30minutes.

(01:04:54):
No harm, no foul against y'all,you're just doing your job.
They're like why didn't youjust say you're a cop?
I'm like I don't believe that'sright.
That's just not the way I rollbusiness.
And they're like dude, we wouldhave man, we just tore your car
apart.
We looked at everything.
I'm like, hey, man, go outthere and find the next fish.
And I don't care if somebodysearches my car, just don't
break it.
You know what I mean?

(01:05:14):
Uh, you might find some spitwhen I miss my spitter or
something like that.
Nothing illicit in my car.

Speaker 2 (01:05:20):
Yeah, go ahead and search it real quick, but that's
just me and kudos to you,slayer, because I tell you what
there's, and listen I'm.
One of my biggest downfalls isI'm in my comment section way
too much and there are 100people who do not know their
rights as much as you do and asmuch as they should, I mean.
I can give you an easy example.

(01:05:40):
I had a guy that was on youguys know the channel Taco
Reacts or something like that.

Speaker 4 (01:05:46):
I think I've seen it when I'm scrolling through my
feed or something.
He's hilarious.

Speaker 2 (01:05:50):
But he has this insane truck and he just blasts
music in the middle of thisfield.
He's like I just want you tosee how loud as much as you how
loud this music gets.
Right, he's blasted andsomebody in the comment section
was like your right to blastthat music doesn't trump my
right to not hear it.
And I was like oh no, no, no,it most certainly does.
I'm like it protects the rightsthat you don't like, not not

(01:06:13):
the rights you like.
But I'm like now if there's atown ordinance or something,
what they want, but not thepoint, but yeah, but yeah,
seriously, kudos to you to evenbe, for even having the

(01:06:37):
intelligence and the wherewithalto raise these questions yeah,
and having the balls to come on,dude, I mean you never know how
this is gonna go, but you, youfollowed us.

Speaker 1 (01:06:44):
You know how we are, but you know, I try to tell
people, man.
I was like how much vetting ofyou did I do kingslayer?

Speaker 4 (01:06:52):
uh, not any really.
I think we had a conversationabout me coming on to talk about
qualified immunity.
And then you're like I'msetting something up, and then
you're like and I just haven't.

Speaker 1 (01:07:02):
It hasn't come.
It hasn't come yet.
We're waiting on Vaughn, that'sour.

Speaker 4 (01:07:11):
And then I messaged you today like, yeah, I'll come
on and talk about this if youwant.

Speaker 3 (01:07:13):
We're definitely going to have a great panel and
I think that's going to be anight.
We're probably going toadvertise two weeks out.
I haven't talked to Eric much,but I want as many people as we
can.

Speaker 1 (01:07:22):
Yeah, that's going to be a big one.
It is yeah, yeah.
And now that we've had you on,sir, you're still, I told you
then you're still more thanwelcome to be on with that one.
You're still, I told you, thenyou're still more than welcome
to be on with that one, I think,mr Belfold said he wants to be
on that one too Careful.

Speaker 2 (01:07:39):
once they get a hold of you, they don't.

Speaker 1 (01:07:43):
So that's where I want us to be different.
I want us to offer the platformto the people that follow us
and that have compellingarguments against what the
copsplainers are doing, Because,I mean, that's what some people
like to tease us that wecopsplain.
That's not our intentions, but,yes, sometimes I am
copsplaining.
I hear myself and I'm like God,I am copsplaining, I'm doing
the things, I'm doing the thing.

Speaker 3 (01:08:05):
We're human guys, I mean, we're just like y'all,
which may be a differentprofession than you do.

Speaker 1 (01:08:11):
It's not a lot of people like you man Teachers,
welders and this and that.

Speaker 3 (01:08:15):
And if I go try to step off in that career, I'm
going to get my ass eaten CauseI have no freaking clue.
I'm going to reach out to y'allhow do I do this?

Speaker 2 (01:08:22):
Get your ass.

Speaker 4 (01:08:22):
Honestly, it's funny, I'll be watching the video and
I'll just be steaming andsteaming and I'm like you know
what?
There are good cops like twocops.

Speaker 1 (01:08:37):
I just I start like thinking two cops, one donut in
my head over and over.
It's like it's a good man,that's good.
That's kind of what we'rehoping for.
At least there's two of themout there, right here's.

Speaker 3 (01:08:47):
Here's the rear, or the reality, on eric and I and
badge 502 and people that webring on here.
There are so many more in thedrone droves, I mean, of good
cops out there and you're nevergoing to see them in the media
because they're not crossingthat.

Speaker 2 (01:09:03):
Yeah they didn't do it.

Speaker 3 (01:09:04):
You know, and there's literally hundreds of thousands
on duty every day across thiscountry and they're not crossing
that line.
They were out there upholdingthe law and protecting the
rights of the citizens, and any,and I wish we could kind of
show the the the map on that ofwhat it looks like, but hell, I
can't even draw that.
I can't draw a stick.
But there's so many great copsout there, man, and I hope we're

(01:09:27):
doing a good job representingacross this country.

Speaker 4 (01:09:30):
Yeah I just it's with with bad cops.
I just I'll watch a video andI'll see a bad cop do something
bad and there's 15 cops standingaround yeah, yeah like, like.

Speaker 3 (01:09:43):
Why aren't they stopping that?
Why isn't?

Speaker 4 (01:09:45):
and I get it man yeah , like the um, that sunrise
police, the sunrise police thing, where, um, the supervisor or
whatever was getting in theband's face and he's I'm a
pepper spray, you like, holdingit real close, and the female
cop grabs him and oh, yeah, andsays, and then he pulls around
and pushes her by the net, bythe throat yeah it's, there's
seven officers standing around.

(01:10:07):
What saying?
Hmm, this supervisor is aboutto assault a man, and then he
turns around and assaults ourmember of our team, even though
she's in the right yeah andthey're just standing there
watching this other officer.
It's like okay, so all seven ofyou plus that supervising
officer are bad cops how didthat I?

Speaker 2 (01:10:29):
haven't seen that.

Speaker 1 (01:10:30):
How yeah it's it's heat that dude ends up getting
fired and charged, by the way,for those that don't know.
So that was a positive and I'mnot going to defend it because I
know me, if I would have seenthat, I'd like to think.
Anyway, we all say what wewould have done, but I would
like to think I would have donethe same thing that she did.

(01:10:51):
I will say it takes a lot morestones at her level because she
was a rookie.
I mean a rookie rookie, likefirst year officer, takes a lot
more stones to do that at thatlevel than it does for somebody
that's got a couple years undertheir belt and they know that
dude and they're like you'rehoping that the Sarge is going

(01:11:12):
to pull himself back and youdon't want to step on toes and
all that shit.
So it's not making an excuse,they should have done something.
But it's not an easy decisionbecause you're hoping, you're,
you're trying to wait till thatlast possible second, like okay,
he's going to stop, he's, he'sgoing to, like all right.
And then we saw what we saw.

(01:11:32):
So, um, but you're right, theyI don't want to say that they're
bad cops either.
We've all made mistakes anderrors in judgment.
It doesn't necessarily makeyour whole life and what you do
and what your cause is bad, sothat's kind of in that moment
they are a part of the bad copclub yeah, yeah and I'll give

(01:11:54):
you that um country girl.
I appreciate it, but I think Ithink youtube cut us off on
memberships.

Speaker 4 (01:12:01):
So if you guys want to help support, hit those
stickers or whatever the otherthings are um I've actually seen
like um super chat um, videosof stuff where it's like uh,
where it's like oh, these copsdon't seem like they're doing
something wrong, but I'm likethese cops are doing something
extremely wrong.

(01:12:21):
Like, um, there's a video where, um, I think detectives say hey
, if you can stop this car, stopthis car, you know.
So the cop stops the car, hewalks up yeah, you know, starts
talking to him, guys like youknow, talking back.
You know the cop's not askingfor the um, you know he's like I

(01:12:45):
stopped you for misuse ofblinker.
And then he's like the dogrolls up and you know, like five
minutes into the stop they'drun the dog, which I'm not a fan
of dogs.
I just I don't think they'reaccurate enough.
I don't think they should.

Speaker 1 (01:13:03):
Don't get banning going.
He used to be a canine officer.

Speaker 4 (01:13:06):
Honestly, I I'm not a fan of canines in any role in
law enforcement, so so I'm goingto enter.

Speaker 3 (01:13:13):
So I'm not a fan of properly trained canines
Properly or improperly Well, I'mnot a fan of the improperly
trained.
So in the dog industry, if youlook at it globally, it's about
the really good ones are lessthan 20 across this country that

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are outstanding trainers etcetera, et cetera, and there's
some loose end stuff that are inthe Supreme Court and state
Supreme Courts on how thattraining goes.
When I came into K-9, it was2003.
Our chief was if we're going todo this and we're going to do a
Homeland Security grant on it,it's got to be the best in the
business and so my dog's name,and I think you'll get a kick

(01:13:59):
out of it.
My first dog was Diesel, and youcan't see it on my arm.
You can see that little bumpright there.
He ate my lunch so he didn'tmake the cut.
He broke my radius, myona, bothbones and I damn sure wasn't
going to release that as a as adog in the public.
I'm glad he bit me and notsomebody else.
The, the, the second dog that Ihad, didn't make it through

(01:14:21):
training and tried to die on meat the at the gun range and we
were exposing to firearms.
My third dog did make it.
We did great at the Olympics forfor narcotics tracking and
what's called audit recovery,did great at the Olympics for
narcotics tracking and what'scalled auto recovery.
And she was great at findingdope and her name was Mary Jane.
She was a black lab, I namedher like that at frigging,

(01:14:45):
finding dope man.
And we do what's calleddiversionary tactics trainings.
It's twice a week that we weredoing our trainings.
Most agencies do one, but mypartner and I his name is tom
myers at the agency I worked atand we friggin, you know, twice
a week are going out there anddo this training and when we do
the training we use cotton ballsthat are absorbed around the,

(01:15:05):
the actual narcotics that are,that are created by the dea,
that are 100 pure and and that'show we would train our dogs and
then when we go out on thestreet, we don't provide a treat
to these dogs.
You'll see a lot of videos ofdogs going and once they find
the dope, the handler or thepolice officer that's in charge
of that dog boom, there's atreat for finding your dope.

(01:15:27):
No, when it's a live find, youdo not reward your dog, and
that's a big thing for me and Isee a lot of bad stuff over the
country in reference to thesedogs.

Speaker 4 (01:15:37):
But your logs are very, very they, they, they got
to be thick, they have to begood and if you don't have a
good dog, get it the hell offthe street period yeah, because
I think I there was that onestudy that came out of chicago
that said like the dog's overallaccuracy were like for finding
anything you know they'd hit outof all their hits was like 45

(01:16:02):
percent and then with certaincommunities it was like 20
percent and it's like why arethey?
Why are the all these dogs butnone of them are finding
anything?

Speaker 3 (01:16:17):
That's a problem that I have.
So in my career I had my dog onthe street for nine years.
I had two vehicles that nonarcotic substance were found in
it, but there's somethingcalled a rage estate statement.
The driver came across andstated look man, we smoked a
joint about four hours ago.
I put the joint out back in theold cars where you had the

(01:16:41):
mirror control that was manualto move that driver's mirror
around Because it was metal.
He put the joint on that andput it out the window.
So we went and confirmed thatyou had an ash substance right
there and the dog did indicateon the driver's side door.
My dog the accuracy was I'mgoing to use the word was

(01:17:01):
fucking crazy.
She was amazing at it and wedid that two times a week.
Boom, boom, boom, boom.
We're going to do more cleancars with nothing in it, brand
new cars out of manufacture at acar lot, boom, boom, boom, boom
, boom to where we can log thatproperly.
And then if we did a dirty carit's going to be used one with

(01:17:21):
all kinds of other scents, withpizza and everything else.
But that dog has got to do thatindication.
Mine was a sit and point withher nose and it's got to be
where that odor is coming from,and if it's not, we retrain and
go back to it.
But mary jane was.
She was an accurate dog, so Ican sit there and go on dogs and

(01:17:41):
yes, there are bad dogs outthere.
I'm not in the dog world anymoreand this thing is kind of blown
up across the united stateswhere these wannabe trainers and
judges of dogs have come out.
But until the supreme court,state or state Supreme Courts
change things, it's going tokeep rolling the way it is.
There are some amazing dogs outthere, but I agree with you,
there are some not so amazingdogs out there as well.

Speaker 4 (01:18:04):
I always come back to the.
This is a I think it's a DEA.
It was happening in theairports and they're like can we
search you real quick?
You bought a last minute ticket, you know, can we search your
bag?
Yada, yada, yada.
The person says no goes, sitson his plane because he had
already been through TSA.
He had already been through allhis checkpoints.

(01:18:24):
This was not related to flyingat all airport security so much.
I think it was a DEA or maybe itwas, I'm not sure if it was ATF
one of the four three-letteragencies Comes on, grabs the
luggage off, walks off with it,and so the guy follows and he's
like why are you detaining me?

(01:18:45):
And the guy's like I'm notdetaining you, I'm detaining
your stuff, you can leave at anytime.
And then he's like we're goinggonna hold it here until my dog
can run around you.
So the dog runs around and hitson it and it's like, oh, open
it up, nothing's in there.
And it's like before he, uh, um, before the dog hits the you

(01:19:10):
know canine hamster like youknow making noise and pointing
towards there, because the dogwalks around it twice and just
doesn't do anything.
And then the officer walks byand points and gestures and then
the dog sits and he's like, oh,did you see that the dog, the
dog hit on the bag.
so it's like yeah, the snickersbar in there bro yeah, yeah,

(01:19:35):
honestly that that was um one ofthe reasons why, um that
agency's not allowed to work in,not not allowed to do what they
called cold consent encountersanymore, and because, it got
caught on video these officers.
It's not consensual.

Speaker 1 (01:19:54):
Right, I want to give a shout out real quick to
Harrison.
He, harrison, brock, he got usa super sticker.
Drop 50 bones on the page,specifically Harrison, man,
every and everybody that thattried to buy memberships and
stuff tonight.
I just want to give a thank you, cause what you guys do is
actually helping support what wedo.

(01:20:14):
That money doesn't go into meor Banning or anybody else's
pocket.
It just rolls right back intowhat we're trying to do and so,
again, appreciate that.
Thank you very much, harrison.
I want to make sure he got averbal shout out for doing that,
but all right, so all right.
Kingslayer, sir, I want, uh,thank you for being on tonight.

(01:20:40):
Um, we're gonna get into thebody cam reviews and all that
stuff, so I'm gonna bid youfarewell for now.
I think everybody loved youbeing on here, um, on the panel
and definitely in the chat, soyou are welcome back at any time
.
Sir, let me know what topicsand stuff that you want to hit
on if you feel passionatelyabout them um, I feel
passionately about a lot.

Speaker 4 (01:21:00):
Um, can I say something?
Absolutely so the reason Ibrought up like the incident to
to a citation earlier after Ibrought up the incident like the
inventory search, was becausethat's how I see my scenario the
inventory search going and thatthat's what I could compare
what that officer in that videodid.
That that's why I you know,that's why I compared it like

(01:21:22):
that okay, fair enough I, I, Ididn't want to you know it to
come off like I was trying tolike no, no, brother, we
appreciate this, this is why,eric originally created this.

Speaker 3 (01:21:35):
You know, this is truly the the bridge between the
community and law enforcement.
Uh, taking the experience thatwe have, the experience of the
panelists that we bring on, andfor you to be questioning
something, we're freakingamericans.
If we're not questioning, we'renot americans.
You know.
That's what this country isbuilt on.
Is the freaking revolutions werefought over too you know, and

(01:21:56):
it's and it's, and I love thatyou did that.
I love that eric was able toreach out to you, actually came
onto the show.
Man, this is what this is allabout.
Yeah, like I said, you knoweric has mentioned this several
times we don't make money onthis.
You know, in the, in 10 yearsfrom, if we pull a paycheck
frigging awesome, what we'redoing right now is trying to

(01:22:17):
educate the public of just lawenforcement, of what we know to
protect your rights.
If you can bring this type ofstuff up, that's what we're
built on, man, thank you forhaving the cojones, so to speak,
to come on the show man.
That says a lot about you.

Speaker 2 (01:22:33):
Thank you for having a better mic than half the
letter on there.

Speaker 4 (01:22:37):
Is my mic all right.

Speaker 5 (01:22:38):
No, your mic is glorious.
I got a blue Yeti.

Speaker 2 (01:22:42):
You can't see it now, but I got a Yeti roughly here
someplace.

Speaker 4 (01:22:46):
Okay.

Speaker 5 (01:22:47):
Yeah, you sound great bud.

Speaker 4 (01:22:49):
Honestly, another topic that I'm passionate about
is knitting, not knittingunderwater basket weaving I mean
I I just picked up, uh goingskeet shooting.
But there you go yeah, is that?
is.
Well, I'm interested in likesearch and seizure stuff so I

(01:23:11):
like um.
I've been one of the peoplewho's been pushing you guys
about like the stiegled warrantsor whatever, whenever it comes
up um third party searches onhouses and my position on that
is, according to stiegled, aslong as the person who's got the
warrant is isn't creating anaccidental circumstance, no

(01:23:32):
matter how bad the warrant youhave to get a search warrant to
a house.
That's my basic position onthat.
I know we could go an hour anda half on that.

Speaker 1 (01:23:43):
I love it.
I'm not going to get into thattonight.
I want to get into some ofthese videos, because we're
already an hour and a half intothis.
Fuck it, we'll bring it up nexttime.

Speaker 5 (01:23:52):
We'll do that next week week.

Speaker 1 (01:23:53):
I guess we got topics for next week.

Speaker 2 (01:23:58):
Thanks, for being a real one, brother appreciate you
, man now do I just hit leave,or let me see

Speaker 1 (01:24:04):
here, top right.
You can just hit brother.
Thank you so much appreciateyou, kingslayer, thanks for
having me home to the familywe're going to have Kingslayer
getting a green having me yes,sir, Home to the family.
We're going to have Kingslayergetting a green screen and he's
going to be getting new lightsand all that shit.

Speaker 3 (01:24:21):
That's cool, dude man .
It's just got very expensivethose people watching right now
that have questioned stuff.
You've seen stuff.
If you have the ability to doit I mean, unfortunately we
can't get everybody on one night, but Eric can sit there and
start doing a lineup and getpeople on I mean, we're, we're.
We're not the enemy, we're heretrying to show you how to

(01:24:41):
protect your rights, show youhow to do the right things.
Yep, um, if we see a video thatwe, we state that that the law
enforcement probably did right,there's a lot of years of
experience behind that.
We're not just saying we're notcops planning.

Speaker 5 (01:24:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:24:54):
We.
You know Mr Bill, I love him.
I haven't met him yet.
I'm going to buy the dude abeer.
He's a former Marine like me,so he's probably yeah, we got.

Speaker 1 (01:25:02):
I want to go drinking with that guy, you bet, man.

Speaker 3 (01:25:07):
For sure, so many that had some negative thoughts
on cops and now may have alittle bit more of a positive
thing on some cops.
We've done our job.

Speaker 1 (01:25:18):
Yeah, somebody is hitting the fuck out of their
mic.
I don't think it's mine, goddamn it.
He's like it's me.
Yeah, I was like what is thatnoise?

Speaker 5 (01:25:29):
It's going to take me anywhere.

Speaker 3 (01:25:30):
Your hat looks like mine and I was getting excited,
man, I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 (01:25:34):
Oh yeah, you're good, you're good, uh, yeah you um,
so let me, let me see.
I had another video I wanted tobring up.
Uh, let me see here.
Hey, why are you?

Speaker 3 (01:25:45):
bringing that up.
I'm going to talk about the,the hat that eric and I are
wearing yeah, go ahead sir sothere's a guy named uh I know he
doesn't like his name to beused, so Michael Best.
He's up in the north.
We'll say that, but you canlook it up.

Speaker 6 (01:26:01):
What's his address?

Speaker 3 (01:26:01):
Yeah, it's 402 Main Street.
No, I'm just kidding.
Law enforcement officer whatwas it?
Support Foundation?
So Eric and I are both wearingthat hat and I've known Michael
for years, so look up.
National Law EnforcementOfficers Support Foundation.
These guys are doing thingsfrom mental health care and

(01:26:22):
everything else for cops thathave experienced some stuff and
they're not making any money onit.
These guys are truly helpingpeople in the first responder
industry.
Man, he's doing a great job.
I'll leave it at that Go look itup yourself and make your own
opinion on it.
If you have the ability todonate towards this cause, if

(01:26:43):
not, like and subscribe to hispage and share it with others.

Speaker 1 (01:26:47):
I want to just give a creepy coincidence.
If you look at my hat, that istwo arrows from old school, bow
and arrow, and then it, you know, obviously has the initials in
there for what it stands for.
I want you guys wrong elbow orwrong arm.
That is my chippewa tattoo,that I got chippewa on my
background and it is damn nearidentical.

(01:27:10):
It's got my wife and kidsinitials on it.
Has its own meaning, but it'sjust kind of creepy how that
came up.
So anyway, shotguns and Tattoossaid Well done Kings.
I usually fuck around and chatand listen at work.
I love it.
Let's see here.

(01:27:32):
La Princess said work, I loveit.
Um, let's see here la princess.
Uh said hey, good to see yougetting into week four.
Farm tech classes instructorsays I'm one of his most
thorough students.
Guess I'm not doing as bad as Ithought I don't know the
difference between milligramsand micrograms.
Don't tell me told me oh, that'sfunny, so anyway, guys, um, let

(01:27:56):
me get.
I wanted to show this videohere but share, uh, just because
this one was another one thatpeople were chatting about, so
I'm split.

(01:28:20):
Cars to the left and the rightand instant karma, I know.
So, okay, stop sharing.
I wanted to just briefly getinto what that guy was doing
would be considered lanesplitting because traffic was
moving.
Now in california you can lanesplit and lane filter.

(01:28:42):
In the video you hear medescribe what lane filtering is.
That's when vehicles arestopped in the car or the
motorcycle filters its way tothe front.
Um, I will tell you guys thatin my I'm not a motorcycle rider
and when I first saw lanesplitting and filtering I hated
it.
I'm like no, fuck you, I gottawait, everybody gotta wait.

(01:29:02):
You're a car too, like justbecause you only got two wheels
and no cage, that ain't my fault.
Uh, I have reversed that.
Um, I am a lane filtering fan.
I think it makes sense.
I think it saves a lot of rearendings that happen to
motorcyclists.
They get guys, listen, I'veI've seen the stats.
Motorcyclists are more oftennot at fault for their accidents

(01:29:27):
.

Speaker 2 (01:29:27):
It's more often another motorist that causes an
accident motorcycles cause moreaccidents to themselves Um when
there's a vehicle involved,right?

Speaker 1 (01:29:39):
So in this um I claimed that this obviously the
truck was at fault and you couldtell that it clearly moved over
to try to prevent him fromsplitting lanes.
And people were like, well, howcan you prove the intended that
?
And I'm like it's not that hard, you just make the argument.

(01:30:00):
Hey, where the cop was located,he could see in front of the
truck.
There was clearly no indicationof an obstacle in the way.
There was nothing for him to go.
He didn't use his turn signalto go to the right, there were
cars in the right lane so hewasn't merging and he timed it
perfectly.
At the same time, this bikejust happens to be lane
splitting.
So any reasonable and prudentperson would believe that he was

(01:30:21):
doing some sort of road rageincident here, and in my
training experience with roadrage, this is common and I was
stopping this vehicle to preventit from escalating so that
that's how I see that.

Speaker 2 (01:30:35):
You do absolutely get the rider.
I mean, I've been riding for along time.
You absolutely have theshorties on the sporties that
are blasting 70 miles an hour,lane splitting and that's
obviously completely reckless.
Obviously, I don't think I needto tell anybody that you
shouldn't do that, but people doabsolutely.
When you're going at such aslow speed, there are bikes that
I mean that particular bike isnot, but there's bikes that are

(01:30:57):
air-cooled.
You sit in 90, 95, 100 degreeweather.
Your bike can go roasty, toastyand you're not.
Now you're not going anywhere.
Now you're pushing a 700 poundbagger out of the middle lane of
the highway yeah, and that wasanother thing I learned in this.

Speaker 1 (01:31:12):
And here is one of the points I want to make about
the podcast y'all, I changed mystance on the motorcycle lane
splitting and all that stufffrom doing the podcast four
years ago.
I didn't.
So when I try to tell you guysthat I learned just as much from
y'all as you do from me, like Imean it, if you go back and

(01:31:32):
watch some of the firstmotorcycle videos I made, my
stance was not the same and I'mnot the guy that's going to go
delete it.
I want you to see theprogression I've made.
I've I've changed my stance onsome certain as a person yeah,
so I'm, I'm with it.
Um, now, lane splitting initself I find dangerous, just

(01:31:54):
because you know no one'stalking about it.
Like motorcycles are hard, likeI love you motorcycles, but
you're hard to see sometimes.

Speaker 2 (01:32:00):
Oh, yeah, I agree, Listen, you got guys that slam,
that throttle, but what a no, no, no, no, no.
How many times have you hadsomebody do that?
And by the time you actuallyhear it, look over your shoulder
they're coming past you.

Speaker 1 (01:32:19):
Yeah, you.
I know people think that youslam on your throttle.
You're here and it you're notthere.
Yeah, and stop breakingpeople's fucking mirrors.
Some of them deserve it, someof them have it coming, but
those are the ones that aretrying to assault you with their
car.
Some of them it's a clearaccident.
They didn't mean to cut you offor do whatever.
It is understand.
Your life is on the line andit's high stakes and everybody's
stress level and you know hypervigilance is is going crazy
when we're driving 70 80 milesan hour.

(01:32:41):
But damn, don't go breakingpeople's mirrors when it's an
accident yeah, and you'rerecording it too by the way,
yeah, yeah, now, don't get mewrong, I do it's funny.

Speaker 2 (01:32:51):
it's funny to watch, funny for us.

Speaker 1 (01:32:55):
You get that bill in the mail.
I fully admit it's wrong, butit's still funny to watch.
It's like watching little kidslearn hard lessons.
It cracks me up when they takea header off of the coffee table
or something High stakes roastytoasty vibes.

Speaker 2 (01:33:16):
I like it.

Speaker 1 (01:33:21):
So yeah, I just wanted to get that video out
there kind of give a littleclarification, because it was.
I was getting like quick back,like what are you going to
charge them with?
A whole bunch of things.
One of the things you could getcharged with there minimum is
obstruction Obstructing the lane, obstructing the flow of
traffic.
He didn't have to leave thelane to do that, so he was

(01:33:43):
obstructing that vehicle frombeing able to go forward?

Speaker 2 (01:33:45):
Is there a driving right of center ticket?
I know there's driving left ofcenter, ticket right Like
drifting over the line and stufflike that.

Speaker 1 (01:33:53):
Well, he wasn't over the line.

Speaker 2 (01:33:54):
He didn't fail to maintain the lane yet, I guess.

Speaker 1 (01:33:57):
Yeah, so reckless.
You could say it was a recklessmove simply because there was
nowhere for him to go.
There's no reason for him tomove that way.
I mean, like I said, you canarticulate all this stuff Car
right next to him.
Yeah, so I'm going to take asecond shameless plug, guys.
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(01:34:18):
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Speaker 3 (01:34:29):
I don't have access to it.
I've got over 20 messagestonight Banning.
I've sent you see me onFacebook but it's been hacked.
I don't have access to it.
I've got over 20 messagestonight Banning.
I've sent you a message onFacebook.
What do you think about thispolice video and it's real quick
copy and paste.
I'm not on Facebook.
It's my old, when I ran forsheriff.
It's still on there.
However, send everything forBanning at LinkedIn and I do

(01:34:49):
Instagram.
Now I've stepped up Instagram,but I started it not too long
ago.
I've got, like I don't know,five followers.
What's your Instagram?
Banning Sweatland.
I come up with really coolnames, so yeah, banning.

Speaker 2 (01:35:04):
Sweatland, will I be your highest follower, oh?

Speaker 3 (01:35:08):
God, I mean literally .
I have not had it that long atall.
We're getting them there,though I keep tagging them in
everything that we do.
Jay says subscribe.

Speaker 1 (01:35:20):
Jay's just screaming Love it.
Yeah, I like Badge 502's fansbecause they're all super
educated medical nerds.
They're awesome.
Oh yeah, noids, that's the best.
Seymour fields, not seymourbutts.
Uh seriously, the bikes I knowwe think like I love it.

(01:35:43):
Uh seriously, the bikes arejust as reckless as the cars and
trucks.
Saying it's for safety whenhe's trying to share a lane with
a pickup, he just wants to gofast.

Speaker 2 (01:35:53):
Eh, maybe some, but there's definitely bikers on the
road that just want to, and youdon't even need to take my word
for it.
You've seen the videos they'rejust blasting.
They're doing 90 miles an hourwhere you should be doing 20.
They're dickheads are out there.
They're a hundred percent.

Speaker 1 (01:36:08):
Yeah, they are out there, but I don't just like I
drive like a grandma and.

Speaker 2 (01:36:14):
I'm talking about like an old grandma, not one of
the like fun, cute ones that arelike 50 years old.

Speaker 1 (01:36:18):
No, that's not me and I just want to say it's the
same.
I look at motorcyclists likepeople, like I want people to
look at cops.
Yeah, you're seeing some badcops out there.
You're seeing these videos andif that's your algorithms,
that's all you're going to see.
It's the same with themotorcyclists 99 of these
motorcyclists are out theredoing the right thing.
It's just the ones that youkeep seeing on your videos

(01:36:39):
because they're fun videos towatch.
Trust me, I watch them too.
Yeah, the boring ones don'tmake the cut.
Yeah, yeah, the boring onesdon't make the cut.
Exactly, all right, let me,we're going to post the videos.
So, first and foremost, we'regoing to post the videos.
So, first and foremost, we'regoing to give a shout out to the
one that we get all the videosfrom.
So I want you to see their pagePolice activity on YouTube.

(01:37:00):
Make sure you guys subscribe tothem or follow them or whatever
it is, but they've got 6.5million subs, so I don't think.
I think they need more.
They're not doing too well 7million is ostentatious.
Right, exactly.
So we're going to go to ourvery first video.
So for those listening, ifyou've never done this, if

(01:37:22):
anybody on Badge 502 is likewhat the fuck are we doing?
Now?
We're going to watch body camvideos and we are going to talk
to you guys through those asthough we are the officers in
the video and try to break thecall down as it goes of what we
would do next and then see howaccurate we are.
It's kind of a different way.

(01:37:44):
We're not monday morningquarterbacking.
We're trying to explain whatwe're thinking as a call
develops, so then you can seehow consistent the training is
across the board.
Um, with whatever this officerin the video is seeing.
So viewer discretion advised.
We don't know what it's goingto show.
We've never seen these videos,so this one is five minutes long

(01:38:06):
.
We're going to biggie size thisvideo and play 10-4,.

Speaker 6 (01:38:15):
He's right there, give us a 33.
Let me see your hands.
Let me see your hands Get onthe fucking ground right now.

Speaker 1 (01:38:30):
Okay, not a common reaction.
I'm going to say already offthe bat, my spidey senses are
way up.
These were people they werelooking for because they clearly
called it.
Hey, there they are.
This is where they're at.
They have triangulated.
And for me in this, when you'vegot uniformed officers giving

(01:38:53):
you commands and you are clearlyignoring those and just trying
to walk through or about to runto me it looks like he's about
to rabbit and run.
That is a big red flag Banning.
I'll let you go next.

Speaker 3 (01:39:07):
What do you see?
No same thing, I mean.
And look at the crossfire here.

Speaker 1 (01:39:12):
Yeah, I was going to let you get that one.

Speaker 3 (01:39:14):
That kills me as a firearm destructor.
But what situation do we have?
You know they're figuring itall out.
What's going on?
His hands and his pockets areto his sides.
They're obviously wanting apeaceful conclusion.
We don't know how this is goingto pan out, so we'll go from
there.

Speaker 1 (01:39:31):
Yeah, like Ward, we're just going to stroll this
way.

Speaker 2 (01:39:34):
Just moseying along.

Speaker 1 (01:39:36):
Yeah, yeah, Just walking through.
You got anything, Anthony, onthis?
What your concerns are rightnow.

Speaker 2 (01:39:44):
Obviously, he's walking directly between the two
officers.
So immediately, crossfire isgoing to be something that you
want to worry about, but he'sobviously being completely
noncompliant.
He's completely ignoringanything that the officers are
saying.
At this point, he's eithercooking and booking or he's
gonna.
That's the only thing he knows.
He's either gonna cook and bookor draw down on these guys.
So this is okay, looks like asketchy situation okay, fair
enough.

Speaker 1 (01:40:04):
All right, let's keep going shots fired.

Speaker 6 (01:40:11):
Shots fired saw something.

Speaker 1 (01:40:16):
I didn't see it now that doesn't mean that it wasn't
there, just the video that I'mlooking at.
I couldn't see it, so, um,let's, uh, damn, I'm hoping to
god.
He crazy, he had thatmalfunction.
He's using a glock too, so yeahhe might have limp wrist.
I don't yeah.
Good, they're getting verbalcommands there.

(01:40:48):
There, it was a blizzard whichwas a big net oh, he fired too

(01:41:09):
crossfire, crossfire, jesus,jesus

Speaker 2 (01:41:14):
oh my god, did you hear?

Speaker 1 (01:41:16):
that I think a tire got hit yeah, I'm gonna go back.
I think in the crossfire thisofficer over here fired and I
can hear a tire going out.
I'm gonna go back.
I think I think this officershot over here and hit a tire.

Speaker 2 (01:41:41):
Right there, did you hear that?

Speaker 1 (01:41:43):
Shot, fired.
The guy unasked when the gunwent down.

Speaker 6 (01:41:50):
Where is he?
Do you see him?
Do you see him?

Speaker 1 (01:41:53):
Yep, right here, let's go.
Good communication.
He said yep, he's right here,let's go.
Where's the gun.

Speaker 6 (01:42:08):
Gun's right here.
Gun's right here.

Speaker 5 (01:42:11):
Good communication.

Speaker 1 (01:42:13):
So for me, and I think somebody said it, a
country girl said too many givencommands.
Yeah, everybody was yelling.
Too many people talking.

Speaker 6 (01:42:28):
Let's keep going.
They got the gun.
You fucking move.
I'm going to blast your headoff, oh, it's good.

Speaker 1 (01:42:45):
Okay, with a little scared straight program, do not
move, do not move.
My question is did the dude gethit?

Speaker 6 (01:42:56):
India 649,.
We're hit India six.
Right now.
We're taking one, because rightnow stop moving.
I.

Speaker 4 (01:43:01):
Got my gun oh.

Speaker 1 (01:43:16):
God, okay, he's in custody.
Bro, take the gun off his headand I will just say in uh, badge
502.
You can probably back me up onthis.
Did you hear the way he groanedin pain?
That wasn't a normal groan,it's going south fast.

Speaker 3 (01:43:40):
It's getting close to Agnell.

Speaker 1 (01:43:42):
Yeah, that was his movements that he was doing.
I don't think those were evenvoluntary.

Speaker 2 (01:43:49):
So His car tire is getting hit.

Speaker 1 (01:44:12):
I've never seen a gun get displayed.

Speaker 2 (01:44:15):
Shots fired, just the real one?
How many shots is?

Speaker 6 (01:44:19):
that what?
Where is he?
You see him, you see him.

Speaker 1 (01:44:23):
Yeah, that was good on that officer.
I can see him register that hishands were empty and that he
stops firing.
Did you notice that?

Speaker 3 (01:44:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:44:37):
It definitely looked like he pulled back.

Speaker 1 (01:44:39):
I'm going to go back just a little bit.
I think he registered it.
I'm still trying to look for it.
Look right here Shot firedFires.
Now he sees his hands and hestops.
Drop the gun.
Now that gun's already gone.

Speaker 2 (01:44:57):
Where is he?

Speaker 6 (01:44:57):
You see him, you see him, yeah, right here, and he
stopped that.
Guns already gone.

Speaker 1 (01:45:14):
Roll on your face, let me see your fucking hands
right now.
Put your fucking hands out,let's go forward.
We already seen this part.

Speaker 6 (01:45:20):
Hold legs.
Hey bro, where are you hit at?
Where are you hit at?
Where are you hit?

Speaker 1 (01:45:29):
Where are you hit at?
So anytime we get hit in thisarea, what are we worried about
over here, anthony?

Speaker 2 (01:45:36):
so obviously you have your femoral artery.
Over there you can lose quartsof blood and it takes zero time.

Speaker 1 (01:45:45):
I think you bleed out from your femoral in like what
minute and a half two minutesyeah, it's a two minute bleed
time usually two to three minutebleed time, depending on how
heavy your heart's beating atthat point.

Speaker 2 (01:45:57):
Um, yeah, that's a, that's a big, that's a big order
.
It's huge.
Um, and other other than that.
It's the largest bone in yourbody, your femur, the largest
one in your body.
So even if you don't hit thefem, the femoral artery, you're
talking about possibly snappingthe biggest bone in your body.
So you're yeah bad day.
Anytime you've ever heardanybody say shoot him in the leg
, just shoot him in the leg, bro.

(01:46:17):
You are actually asking tomortally wound that person.

Speaker 1 (01:46:20):
Yeah, kingslayer Super Chat.
He gave us a $5 donation.
He said it's life and death.
Simon says Make sure there isonly one.
Simon.
Also listen to Simon, I love it.

Speaker 2 (01:46:36):
Thank you, kingslayer laser.
Bad news put them in the hipthey can't walk.

Speaker 1 (01:46:38):
Yeah, um, and, and, for those that don't don't know,
in in badge 502.
You tell me if I'm wrong onthis, but from what I was told I
had another officer friend ofmine, um matt pierce, who's been
on my show.
His femur was broken fromgunfire.
He was shot seven times, Ibelieve.

Speaker 2 (01:46:56):
Uh by a bad guy.

Speaker 1 (01:46:57):
uh, as he was jumping a fence to go look for the bad
guy in this high grass, the dudeambushed him and, uh, the first
shot went through his femur andwhat I was told is the bones in
the femur.
The way that it works is, assoon as the femur gives way, all
those muscles spin around,because the bone is literally

(01:47:19):
like like a band around it yeah,the bone is supported by the
tendon ligaments in that part ofthe body.

Speaker 2 (01:47:25):
Mind you, remember, you have everything is in there.
Your knee is is right there.
All that stuff is all heldunder tension, um, which is why
you get so much relief when wepull traction on it and put
something like a traction splinton you.
When you now, mind you, youstill have a broken leg or you
still have, you know, a hole inyou, okay, okay, at that point

(01:47:45):
you're hurt, right.
But the amount of relief youget when we pull tourniquets,
absolutely the amount of reliefthat a patient gets when we pull
tourniquets, absolutely theamount of relief that a patient
gets when we pull traction onthat, because your bone
splinters, it's like this, youknow.
So you have this stuff digginginto your bones.
So when we pull traction on it,and now it's like this, at
least all that stuff's notdigging into you, but everything
contorts.
So when you break a femur ifyou've ever seen anybody who's

(01:48:09):
broken a hip, you'll see onefoot's like this and one foot's
like this your whole leg turns.
It's all held together undertension.
So yeah, you're absolutely rightIf you break your femur.
Stuff's getting twisted,stuff's getting torqued around.
It's not a good day, it's a badday.

Speaker 1 (01:48:23):
Yeah, I'm not 100% in belief yet, from what we see,
that that femoral has been hit.
I do believe he's been hit,obviously, and he's bleeding,
but that's not enough blood yetfor me.
But that doesn't matter, I'mstill going to put a tourniquet
on this leg.
And then the other concern iswhen you get hit in that pelvic

(01:48:46):
area because there's so manythings going on behind your dick
I don't know a better way tosay it.

Speaker 2 (01:48:54):
That's all organs.

Speaker 1 (01:48:56):
Gotcha Anything, you get shot in the pelvis.

Speaker 2 (01:49:01):
If you get shot in the abdomen, that's a bad day
man.

Speaker 1 (01:49:03):
Oh yeah, the gut shots are the worst.
All right, we're going to keepgoing here.

Speaker 6 (01:49:09):
Hey, let me grab my med bag.

Speaker 1 (01:49:13):
The officer recognized, I think, his talents
right away.
There's just a differencebetween somebody in pain and
somebody dying.

Speaker 5 (01:49:21):
Mm-hmm.

Speaker 6 (01:49:23):
No, I'm good.
Hey, here, bag here gloves bag.
Yep, good this guy was a.

Speaker 1 (01:49:43):
Boy Scout hey, sit, hey right here, right here,
right here, here.

Speaker 5 (01:49:45):
back there gloves back like everybody's doing
something, everybody's being apart of the team hey, secure
that.

Speaker 6 (01:49:53):
A watch that, stay watching that.
You, hey, watch that, staywatching that.

Speaker 3 (01:49:57):
You know, and at that point of the video, and Eric
and you can disagree with me ifyou want, that's fine.
But when we figure it out he'sgot a serious injury, let's go
ahead and uncuff.
We've got the guns gone, let'suncuff.
Let's let that.
You know, I'm not a doctor.
I don't have what bad 502s.
Get in reverse too, but I wantto get those arms back out.

(01:50:17):
I think that's going to helpwith some breathing, just as a
guess.
But let's render aid, get themedics in there and do the
life-saving stuff, period.

Speaker 2 (01:50:26):
Yeah, one-third of a femur hit Ouchies.
Yeah, I don't envy that that.
Yeah, I don't envy that.
That's tough.
You're doing tough stuff everyday.

Speaker 1 (01:50:35):
I don't know, what that means.

Speaker 2 (01:50:36):
Bone necrosis.
Basically her, at least in thisparticular situation, it's
one-third of a femoral head.
So your femoral head is thepart that connects up to your
the part that comes up and outto your hip, like that, or the
part that's down at the bottomof the boat and she has one
third of it left.

(01:50:57):
So it's been necrotizing, it'sbeen eating away, it's been
deteriorating.

Speaker 1 (01:51:01):
Gotcha, yeah, damn Alright, we're going to Banning.
May have to bounce.

Speaker 3 (01:51:08):
Unfortunately I've got a couple meetings I've got
to go to for this conference.

Speaker 1 (01:51:10):
Okay, no worries, you've got a couple of meetings
I got to go to for thisconference.

Speaker 3 (01:51:13):
Okay, no worries you got to go right now Five minutes
.
Okay, I say I got one morevideo.

Speaker 1 (01:51:18):
It is four minutes long, so you know it doesn't.
We never get through them infour minutes.
But let's see here, let's sharethe screen, make sure we got
the right one.
Boom Again, police activitygoing to biggie size and let's
go oh, this is michigan.

(01:51:47):
All right, we've talked aboutthis a million times.
We're going to call a directionof travel traffic.
How heavy it is, I wouldconsider this light traffic.
I've been a few times with you.
Traffic at 1636, can you gettraffic conditions?

Speaker 6 (01:52:02):
please, there we go.

Speaker 2 (01:52:07):
Is this just proof that you don't need to go
construction lanes?

Speaker 1 (01:52:11):
Yeah, definitely not.
This is a 1640.
You don't need to goconstruction lanes.
Yeah, definitely not.
Why we don't follow right ontheir ass in case they take an
exit right away?
Last second, that's we stayback.
Rookie officers, they like tofollow right on that bumper and
a bad guy will make alast-second move off an exit and

(01:52:34):
for whatever they've seen onYouTube.

Speaker 3 (01:52:35):
There's different agencies that are going right in
for that bit immediately,depending on the state and
region of the country.

Speaker 1 (01:52:40):
Here, yep, now I will give um livingston county.
They have a good sheriff'sdepartment.
Um, I'm from michigan and, uh,now I can't say that a hundred
percent, I'm just saying theyhad a good reputation back when
I was there.
So I'll say that he's riding upon this other car's butt Going

(01:53:04):
down the ramp.
We're going to have an exitcoming up here, major
intersection.
I'm slowing way down Going intothe city.

Speaker 5 (01:53:16):
They're in minor's picture instead Going over the
yard 643.

Speaker 1 (01:53:21):
Ok, I didn't jump ahead, they jumped ahead.
Oh yeah, whoops, Think you justran the sheriff out.
Are we hearing a gunshot?

Speaker 6 (01:53:33):
It's like a.
I'll call a 3-5.

Speaker 5 (01:53:36):
Are we hearing a gunshot?
Hmm?

Speaker 2 (01:53:38):
Looking to be reacting to it.
Oh hell, you can disturb them.

Speaker 1 (01:54:03):
I'm going to jump ahead because we're just
pursuing for a while.
Good time to hit, it Can do it.

Speaker 2 (01:54:20):
I'm starting to push another.
I got head on the car.
Another car on Jolly Jolly ismissing.

Speaker 1 (01:54:25):
Oh Lord, Four oxygen Five I think one's stuck in
there right now.
Yep, he's still in there.

Speaker 2 (01:54:36):
He's like I'm good.

Speaker 5 (01:54:44):
There's one, one white male, three black.

Speaker 1 (01:54:52):
You got one.
All units responding.
The advised suspect may stillbe armed.
The advised suspect may stillbe armed.
Use caution.
You got one, oh, you got two.

Speaker 5 (01:55:01):
Oh, he's running.

Speaker 1 (01:55:03):
Go boy, go Go Kick it .
I hope he made it.
I hope he made it.

Speaker 2 (01:55:12):
So, guys, I will tell you and Banning you tell me.
I hope he made it.
I hope he made it, maybe if Istayed here long enough Guys.

Speaker 1 (01:55:15):
I will tell you and Banning you.
Tell me if you got one.
You got them all.
They always rat, they alwaysrat.

Speaker 2 (01:55:24):
You were in the backseat, dude.
You were in the backseat.
We don't want you.

Speaker 5 (01:55:27):
You were in the backseat.

Speaker 1 (01:55:31):
You weren't even a part of this man.
You ain't him, you ain't aboutthis car.
You were trapped.
We understand, Listen, peerpressure bro, we get it.

Speaker 2 (01:55:39):
We've been hearing about peer pressure our whole
lives.

Speaker 1 (01:55:40):
Man, listen, I get it , I wouldn't even have been here
, I've got to bounce.

Speaker 3 (01:55:44):
My Uber's about to pull up Hell.
Yeah, brother.
Thank you so much for watching.
We'll see you next time.

Speaker 1 (01:55:54):
Later, brother, take it.
Thank you so much for watching.
We'll see you next time later,brother, we'll see you, take it
easy.
So in this, uh, I will saythat's, you know, when you catch
one, you got, you got them all.
Yeah, you do, they're gonna,they're gonna rat, they always
rat, on every single personthere's no reason not to.

Speaker 2 (01:56:09):
You're not freaking, not spending the rest of your
life hanging out with this kidyeah, and you, you play the
compassion role.

Speaker 1 (01:56:15):
I will tell you right now, I would have been like
listen, you stuck around, youknew not to run, even though he
would have ran if that freakingairbag wasn't in his way.

Speaker 2 (01:56:24):
You knew wrong place, wrong time.
Yeah, you know that guy upfront.
You see how reckless he was, Ibet you.
I bet you.
None of the friends in that carwanted anything to do with this
.
He just took off.
But you guys were all probablyscreaming don't do this right.

Speaker 1 (01:56:35):
You guys all were, I bet you yeah, yeah, oh yeah, I
bet not a single one of themwere.
Uh, they, they were all under18.

Speaker 2 (01:56:46):
Guarantee, yeah, 100 yeah, they don't care, yeah, so
oh, it's fine, there can't benothing ryan, let me christ
thought that guy would neverleave.

Speaker 1 (01:56:58):
Oh shit, that is funny.
Look at Marine Blood.
Still not a member.
Still not a member.
That's cool, marine Blood.
You don't want to support us.

Speaker 2 (01:57:07):
That's cool man you don't have to wait for some of
that alright, let me share thescreen.

Speaker 1 (01:57:13):
share screen.
I get it, man, you do ityourself.
You don't have to wait for someof that.
Yeah, all right, let me sharethe screen.
Share screen.
All right, listen to all of us.
Two Cops, one Donut peoples.
Make sure you jump on to Badge502.
How can they find you onYouTube, sir?

Speaker 2 (01:57:29):
Right here at Badge 502.
Badge 502 across all platformsEMT Badge 502.
Badge 502 across all platformsEMT Badge 502 on Instagram
because I guess somebody decidedthey needed that before I
showed up.
They didn't realize how amazingI was going to be.

Speaker 1 (01:57:42):
I guess All right, let's keep going here.
We're sharing, let's biggiesize A little drone shot.
Yeah, this is interesting.
Police activity doesn't usuallystart their stuff out like this
, so let's see how it goes.

Speaker 5 (01:57:59):
Tell me on drone 911, where's your emergency?
Can you send me a police car toWalmart in Hispania Because
there's a reckless guy crashingmy vehicle?
Okay, did you guys crash in theparking lot or on the street?
No, he crashed me twice onpurpose In the parking lot or on
the street.
Yeah, on the street.
No, he crushed me twice and thepurpose and the parking lot on
the street, yeah on the parkinglot.

(01:58:23):
I know his address.
Okay, hold on a second.
Hold on a second.
What type of car are they in?
He's in the toyota tacoma.
Okay, why are you saying hepurposely hit your vehicle
because I got his kids in thecar?

Speaker 1 (01:58:33):
because I slept with his girlfriend.
That's what I was expecting.
Oh, this took a twist, didn'tit?

Speaker 2 (01:58:39):
so I've, so I've got his kids in the car, so he's
smashing my vehicle I'm gonnaguess it's baby mama let him
take the kids.

Speaker 1 (01:58:51):
This is a guess.
I don't know shit about thiscall baby mama drama.
That's where I'm going withthis, so let's keep wait, wait,
wait.
What marine blood say before wego, before we keep going?
But don't you like the drinkinggame, eric?

Speaker 2 (01:59:04):
it would stop if I become a member right, but I
can't even walk to my bedroom atthis point, I know right, bro,
like the drinking game needs toso who is this person?

Speaker 5 (01:59:15):
he's the dad.
I'm the stepdad called it.
We were dropping them off.
We're five minutes late.
He got mad and he crashed me.
Nice and perfect, okay, but hehit you.
He hit your car with his car,correct?
Yeah, he's back into my car twotimes.
He backed into my car two times.
He basically totaled my car.
So can you guys please send acover?

Speaker 1 (01:59:39):
You're not a garage, john.
What vehicle?
The truck looks clean, yeahreally, but he's not stopping or
moving.

Speaker 5 (01:59:50):
Okay, now he is.
I copy 18, eagle Shearing.
He's on logic 414.
Man.

Speaker 2 (01:59:54):
Eagle Healing.
He's not watching, he's 14.
Man, I don't see anything.

Speaker 1 (02:00:01):
Okay in this like these are the domestic shit
serious.

Speaker 2 (02:00:07):
So I'm going to felony stop this car.

Speaker 1 (02:00:09):
Yes, I'm going to felony stop this car.
So for those listening, ifyou're not familiar with a
felony stop, it's basically I'mgoing to come out, guns drawn
and I'm loud hailing you, driver, roll down your windows.
Driver, stick your hands outthe window Now, with your left
hand, take your keys, throw themoutside the car Like we're
doing all that.
That's what we're going to doon a felony stop.

Speaker 2 (02:00:29):
Thank you, nina going to do on a felony stop um.

Speaker 1 (02:00:31):
Thank you, nina, I was just gonna say shout out to
nina, she found your channel andsubscribe.
So hell yeah, crack me up.
Hell yeah, that's what I liketo hear.
That yeah, he's a funny dude.
He is a funny dude, let's keepgoing roll the windows down,
stop stop I agree.

(02:00:52):
I would not let this guy exitthe vehicle unless I'm
controlling every movement fromhere, because this person's not
rational and what he's doingright now is not normal.
So my spidey senses are off thecharts, right now, I love that.
Hey stay right there.

Speaker 6 (02:01:17):
One hand looks clear.
Hey, stop where you are rightnow I'm not gonna lie where he's
at.

Speaker 1 (02:01:22):
I may, I may bum rush him, but I'm, that's me, I'm
confident in my grappling andstuff like that.
He's, he's almost in.
I'm gonna, you know, goldberghis ass.
I'm gonna say this isconfrontational at yeah this is
confrontational yeah, uh.
So I'm not a fan of that lefthand right now, um, but I do

(02:01:47):
like that I can see the righthand.
What's country girl saying overhere?
Damn, you got me beat by far.
I've only had three spinalsurgeries, need at least three
more four knee, and need a totalwhat?

Speaker 6 (02:02:01):
is wrong with you?
What?

Speaker 1 (02:02:01):
are you guys doing in your lives?

Speaker 3 (02:02:03):
You need all these crazy surgeries.

Speaker 1 (02:02:06):
I'm a cop and I've had none from police work.
I probably need some, but Ihaven't had any, it's coming.
Yeah, I know right.

Speaker 6 (02:02:15):
Hey, I don't want to tease you, sorry.
One at teaser point.
I'm cooperative.

Speaker 1 (02:02:24):
You're not listening and I'm having a felony.
Stop you, I'm tasing you, I'mnot giving you a whole lot.
I'm going to give you one ortwo warnings, which they've
already done, and he's still notlistening.
No, dump him you cannot affordto play the safety issue here.
What do you?

Speaker 2 (02:02:39):
think no, 100%.
This party already knew why hewas being stopped.
He pulled over immediately.
He knew what was going on.
He knows the story.
This is the type of personthat's going to pull over
immediately or he's going tosend you on a 20-mile drive.
And he pulled over quick.
So he knows what the situationis.
He got out of the vehicle.
He knows he's got him dead torights.
Now he's going to either try toexplain it to him or God knows

(02:03:01):
what, but he's also trying tocontrol the situation and at
this point you are no longer incontrol of that situation.
Let the officer do what he'sgoing to do, and you know what
At worst, you're going to get acouple tickets.
You're going to get a couplecharges that are not going to
end up being that serious whenyour lawyer drops them down.
Just call it a day, bro.
Cut your losses.

Speaker 1 (02:03:19):
Yep, I'm not sure what Andy Fletcher is saying
here.
You'll get TERP Eric sooner orlater.
What is that?
I don't know that one.
I don't know that one.
I'm assuming it's an acronymfor something.
You see, ward, what an acronymis.
It's letters that representseveral words.
Just letting Ward know.

Speaker 2 (02:03:39):
I'm watching that little laser dance on his belly.

Speaker 1 (02:03:41):
Yeah, yep.

Speaker 2 (02:03:43):
About to take that ride.
That's what I want to take,tased once at my gun range, just
for the giggles.

Speaker 1 (02:03:51):
TCOD Usually congenital bullshit.
Rough life.
You are a country girl makessense, all right.

Speaker 5 (02:03:59):
uh, let's keep going what are you waiting on?

Speaker 1 (02:04:07):
okay, too much so this guys you have heard me say
this a million times on herewhen you hesitate, you end up
creating a situation where ahigher level of force is used
because you didn't use it whenyou had the opportunity, because
you were hoping to deescalate.
This is where the deescalationbullshit goes out the window.

(02:04:29):
Look at the totality of thecircumstances.
You've got a guy that hitanother vehicle allegedly
several times, with his own kidsin the fucking car.
It's not lethal Whether theywere in his car or the other
dude's car.
He's not all right in the headand now he jumped out of a
vehicle which is not normalbehavior on a felony traffic

(02:04:51):
stop while you're pointing gunsand tasers at him and he
continues to walk towards youand not put his hands up.
Tase him Problem, just do it,because if you hesitate now,
he's going to end up pullingsomething a knife, a gun or
whatever and then you have toshoot him when you could have
tased him and maybe moved in andsaved a life.

Speaker 2 (02:05:07):
Agreed.
A lot of departments don't evenhave tasers, so if you're able
to utilize it, just utilize it,man.

Speaker 1 (02:05:11):
Yeah, so you know, don't let him get there oh.
I pulled a gun.

Speaker 2 (02:05:21):
Now you got to shoot him.
You pulled a gun.

Speaker 1 (02:05:22):
That's my cop.
That looked like him shooting.
It looked like he was shootingover there.

Speaker 6 (02:05:41):
Yep, he just shots, fired.
Take a look up here in front ofthe car Gun-picking eastbound
still shooting.

Speaker 5 (02:05:56):
Shot fired I copy shot fired Gun-picking eastbound
starting county.

Speaker 6 (02:06:01):
Anyone copy what?

Speaker 1 (02:06:01):
the fuck was that Did ?

Speaker 5 (02:06:03):
he throw the gun at him.

Speaker 2 (02:06:04):
It was a good throw.

Speaker 6 (02:06:12):
Get on the ground now .
Beam bag, beam bag, beam bag.
Get on the ground, he Beam bag.
Beam bag, beam bag.
Get on the ground, he ate it.

Speaker 1 (02:06:20):
Beam bag.

Speaker 6 (02:06:21):
You're pretty far, bro.
Get on the fucking ground.

Speaker 2 (02:06:27):
That wasn't beam bag.

Speaker 1 (02:06:28):
How about that Good restraint by these officers?
Think about it, guys.
He just shot at them andthey're not using deadly force.
So I like to point out anythingthat's all bloodthirsty people
Like look.

Speaker 5 (02:06:48):
These guys didn't know he was shooting a gun,
absolutely hurled.

Speaker 6 (02:06:56):
That's a good throw.
Good job, man.
Can you just roll the windowsdown for me?
Please Roll the windows down,Stop.

Speaker 2 (02:07:03):
Stop, let him jump out of your vehicle.

Speaker 6 (02:07:06):
Hey, stay right there , bro, stop Stop.

Speaker 1 (02:07:10):
And hear the way he's talking, as he's challenging
this guy.

Speaker 2 (02:07:16):
He's being chill and calm yeah he was not being, he
wasn't being overly, he wasn'tbeing aggressive just just to.
Let's get in the car.
Just what are you doing?

Speaker 1 (02:07:24):
just get in the car um, I'm glad that ron jones
brought this up.
Do they get a bonus for sayingshots fired?
Um, no, we don't get a bonusfor that.
But what irritates me withofficers is they get so so they
try to get on that radio as fastas they can, and that is not
the time to do it.
Handle business.
If you're in a shootout, screwthe radio, unless you're by

(02:07:47):
yourself.
He's not.
He's got three officers atleast there dispatch knows where
you are.

Speaker 2 (02:07:53):
You said it 75 times clear the air.

Speaker 1 (02:07:55):
Somebody will get that information out there when
there's a lull, when they havethe time.
But that guy was actively beingshot at and he still called out
shots fired like fuck thathandle business.
Um, patriot owned business inthe house he.
He said hey brother, how youbeen, Eric, I've been well sir.
Actually had him on my podcastprobably our first year and just

(02:08:23):
been a good relationship on ourFacebook channels and stuff.
Had a Patriot-owned businessusing their private group stuff
and sharing each other's stuffwhen asked but doing well
brother, let's see, let me keepgoing here.

Speaker 6 (02:08:37):
Hey, stop where you are right now.
Hey, I don't want to tease you.
When does he grab the gun?
Wait, I don't know what Iexpect, don't move, don't move
right now.
I don't want to have to teaseyou, man, don't get back in the
car.

Speaker 1 (02:08:55):
Don't get back in the car.

Speaker 6 (02:08:56):
This is great, now hey stop.

Speaker 1 (02:08:59):
He transitions over to his gun.
Okay, we fired first.

Speaker 6 (02:09:11):
Self-charge, self-charge.

Speaker 2 (02:09:33):
What was that?
I like that one-handed grip.
It's good sit up.
What was?

Speaker 6 (02:09:35):
that I like that one-handed grip.
It's good for the camera.

Speaker 2 (02:09:37):
You're right.
Yeah, it's very cinematic.

Speaker 1 (02:09:42):
I'm really broke.
Get out from behind me.
You're not doing anything overthere.

Speaker 6 (02:09:49):
Hey, show me your eyes, no problem.

Speaker 1 (02:09:56):
You're trying to steal the walk oh okay, this was
after the attack.
Beautiful.
You can see his hands.

Speaker 6 (02:10:03):
Are you injured?
Hey, are you hit?
Hey, boss, are you hit?
All right, roll over.

Speaker 2 (02:10:14):
Good, good over.

Speaker 1 (02:10:14):
Good, good work, good work, and that is, I think.
Did we show this one?
Yet we showed that one.
We're not watching an 18-minutevideo.
We showed that one.
Yeah, we're good, we watchedall the videos that I pulled up.

Speaker 2 (02:10:30):
Thank you John.

Speaker 1 (02:10:31):
Except that 18-minute one.

Speaker 2 (02:10:33):
But yeah, that's not even the fact that he chucked
his gun at him is I know that iseverything about that funny?

Speaker 1 (02:10:41):
dude so um else throw your hammer, yeah, so I want to
give guys, um, I want to giveyour page, especially in my page
, some things to look forward to.
We've talked about how we arecreating DTV, the Donut Network,
donut TV, whatever you want tocall it.
We have Anthony in mind and arehoping to create a show that

(02:11:05):
highlights Anthony and all theshenanigans that go on in his
head that you guys will be ableto subscribe to.
It's my only chance.

Speaker 5 (02:11:11):
Yeah, exactly, it's going to be him putting
dressings on his feet and stufflike that in his head that you
guys will be able to subscribeto, and it's my only friends
yeah exactly it's going to behim putting dressings on his
feet and stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (02:11:18):
So yeah, that's 100% painting my toenails and stuff?

Speaker 1 (02:11:21):
yeah, exactly, but you're going to be instructed on
how to properly wrap and stufflike that, as he's showing that
stuff.
So how to stop, how to stopweird bleeds and whatnot.

Speaker 2 (02:11:33):
All bleeding is weird until it stops right.

Speaker 1 (02:11:35):
But the good thing is everything stops bleeding.
Yeah, but that is all we havefor tonight, guys.
I want to thank everybody thatdecided to throw memberships and
buy some super chat stickersand all the cool things.
Appreciate that.
Steve Ladner, I hope you enjoyyour 24-hour ban from talking in
the chat.
You ruined that for yourself,but I know you're watching.

(02:11:58):
I know you're still watching.
We know you're here, yeah.
You'll start charging your rent.
You'll get another opportunity,because I don't ban people.
I don't, unless you're racist.
If you're racist or you arecalling for violence on somebody
, then you'll get banned.

Speaker 2 (02:12:14):
I always say on my channel that I don't block
discussion, I just blockdisgusting.
There you go.
You could use that.
Yeah, I like it, just put alittle TM next to it.

Speaker 1 (02:12:25):
Perry Lemley said I got thrown across an ambulance
last year.
I need my left side done.

Speaker 2 (02:12:32):
So you want me to throw you across the ambulance
on your left side.

Speaker 1 (02:12:35):
Yeah, if you get thrown across on the opposite
side, it'll even things out.
You'll be good that is theuniverse working itself out.

Speaker 2 (02:12:43):
That is the universe working itself out.
I don't make the rules, it'sjust how it goes.
Welcome to homeostasis.
It's either nothing hurts oreverything hurts, yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:12:52):
I like it.
So, kingslayer.
Again, thank you, brother, forjumping on Appreciate you.
You had great content tonight,great conversation, that was fun
.
It's fun to get people on herethat aren't cops.
I tell all cops, try not tohave all cop friends.
Have some people that areoutside of law enforcement.
It will keep you level.
But Nina said Sergeant Levine,badge 502, cool, how about the

(02:13:17):
bandage advice?
Oh, love it, love it, dowhatever you can to not make
things worse.

Speaker 2 (02:13:24):
That's it Exactly.

Speaker 1 (02:13:26):
All right, guys, everybody have a good night.
Thank you for listening andtune in next week, hopefully
probably on Mondayay or tuesdaynight.
We'll see which night works out.
We'll try to get um make sureyou guys check out the new
episode with matt thornton.
Um listen to that, share thatand uh, I got nothing else.
Guys have a good night have agood night y'all.

Speaker 2 (02:13:45):
Don't forget to tell somebody that you love them oh,
I like that.

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