Walking Both Sides of the Justice System

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Welcome back Finally.
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We have been having technicaldifficulties trying to get this
thing started.
I think we finally figured itout.
It was restream Having problems.
We are trying to get all ourguests back.
We had to boot everybody out.

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Uh, we're so.
We're slowly getting everythingput back together.
So, um, fucking restream.
She's like try this, try this.
I'm like I am not a first timer.
I've already done all thesethings, judy.
Oh shit, but that's not what Iwant to do.

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All right, let me.
I've got to try to get thesemessages yeah, uh, I told them
what to do.

Speaker 3 (02:03):
I don't know if if they're still working on it or
if we're going to have to sendout a whole new link should be
but just in case it's.

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No, it does look different is it okay, let me try
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Guys, bear with us, we arehaving a hell of a night.
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Um, I gotta get lawrence fromnew link.
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That's so weird, like as manyproblems as we've already been
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Listen, I did not start, uh,until we were going live.

Speaker 3 (03:56):
So centurion tactical able to able to dial exactly.

Speaker 1 (04:03):
All right, we got banning in here I got my aol up.
We're good yeah right, okay.
Um okay, it looks like we gotoscar back.
Oscar figured it out.
All right, everybody's comingback.

Speaker 4 (04:16):
Oh shit, here we go have you noticed the last time
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yeah, you're right, it didn't show them.

Speaker 4 (04:25):
It's got me as Alan for some reason, and we're live
already, so that's good.

Speaker 1 (04:30):
Let me.

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Yeah, we were able to test it.
Where was it, we don't know.
So basically, we went with awhole new stream that wasn't
already scheduled, so we startedfrom scratch.

Speaker 5 (04:48):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (04:51):
The lady that is behind the scenes is like well,
thanks for letting me know.
Uh, 24 to 48 hours later we'lllet you know, maybe, what the
problem is Unbelievable.

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So I don't know.
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Um, okay, now that we're alldiscombobulated and I am so
thrown off with my normal stuffno pants, oh um.
It's always no shirt um stickwith the plan, exactly okay so,

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so funny story guys.

Speaker 3 (05:28):
Uh, I was sitting here playing one day and trying
to figure out some behind thescenes stuff and I went live and
I didn't have a shirt on, so umwe probably got more views that
day than, uh, we've ever gottenmostly pedophiles, but it
worked whatever you know,everybody's got their flavor
okay all right, I feel like I'mback in the zone that we're.

Speaker 1 (05:50):
we're back in the woosah zone.
So, all right, I everybody.
I am your host, eric levine.
Today I have with me, as always, alan.
I sit with alan nelson behindthe scenes.
We got banning sweatland, myco-host, and two special guests
today, um, because I was notsure if oscar was going to be
able to get his shit togetherbecause he was Nelson behind the
scenes.
We got Banning Sweatland, myco-host, and two special guests
today because I was not sure ifOscar was going to be able to
get his shit together because hewas having problems, and then I

(06:11):
was not sure if we were goingto be able to get Lawrence.
So I had two what-ifs and bothwhat-ifs showed up.
So we're going to roll with it.
I love it.
I'm going to go with you first,oscar.
I want you guys to know, oscaris a community leader in Zion I
hope I'm pronouncing thatcorrectly and he is Matt

(06:31):
Thornton's BFF.
Foeva, oscar Parham, is thathow you say it, sir Parham?
Yeah, parham, how are you, sir?
I'm doing well, doingphenomenal.
What about you?
I'm doing wonderful.
Now that we got this crabworking, yeah, good.
And then we have Retired and hegoes by RetiredFTO, I believe,

(06:53):
on TikTok, lawrence, sir, howare you?

Speaker 7 (06:56):
I'm good sir, how are you?

Speaker 1 (06:57):
Living the dream, sir .
So Lawrence, can you give alittle bit of your background so
people know who you are?

Speaker 7 (07:04):
All right.
So I've worked for ChicagoPolice for over 20 years.
I retired as a field trainingofficer and I'm big on verbal
judo, de-escalation tactics anddefensive tactics.

Speaker 1 (07:19):
That's what I'm talking about.
He's got a pretty good presencegoing on over there on TikTok.
That's how I found him and themore I listened to the guy, the
more I was like he's right, inline with what we're putting out
there.
I'm trying to make Lawrencemore of a regular thing.
Oscar, my man.
He's been working in thebackground with Matt.
They're out doing some goodthings, especially with Oscar

(07:44):
and Matt's nonprofit Home AwayFrom Home.

Speaker 5 (07:49):
Yeah, the full name is Home Away From Home.
Youth Development and Reentry.

Speaker 1 (07:53):
Okay, so we did Youth Reentry.
Go ahead, youth Development andReentry.
Okay, and now with that, canyou kind of talk about what it
is that you guys do out there?
Badge 502 sideways.

Speaker 5 (08:06):
So I used to be a mentor for a director
organization, right, and one ofthe things I've realized is that
you aren't drawn to the wordmentorship.
You know I had a class wherethey would come and they don't
want to talk.
You know what I mean.
So I decided to use basketballin order to draw them in and

(08:28):
then get them into programmingto where you you know, to get
them into certain programmingcareer, finding them and find
what they love to do okay youknow what I mean.
One of the things if you dealwith youth, now they, if they
don't like doing something,they're not going to do it.
You know what I mean?
It's how I get you jobs all thetime and if they don't like it,
they won't do it.
So basically, what we do is wehelp you find themselves up and

(08:50):
find what they love to do andthen, when we find what they
love to do, put resources behindand accomplish and make careers
out of what they love to dookay, so now the youth that you
guys are getting there.

Speaker 1 (09:02):
They're troubled, correct?

Speaker 5 (09:04):
Yes, most of them, not all of them, but most of
them.

Speaker 1 (09:07):
Most of them Okay, and now can you talk about some
of the struggles and things thatthey have to face and what
they're going through, so peoplecan understand the uphill
battle they have?

Speaker 5 (09:19):
Yeah, most of the struggle comes from poverty
straight poverty, right.
Most of the struggle comes frompoverty Straight poverty, right
.
And I'm talking about, from thestandpoint that you know, a lot
of guys Not dealing withfathers.
That's in the house thatteaches them how to be men.
Okay, so we become theirfathers.
That's why we call it home awayfrom home.

(09:40):
So, yeah, you're dealing withthat.
We're dealing with a lot ofpeople who really don't have
relationships with their parents.
They don't want their parents.
You know we're dealing withyouth that you know love to vape
, or rather vape than work toget some money.

(10:01):
You know what I mean, mean anddo drugs and stuff like that.
So, uh, you know those are alot of the times for you to deal
with.
Uh, you know it's a lot morethat I probably don't even know
about, but I know it's a, youknow.
But the thing is, is that ourthing is dealing with, you know,
just trying to, because I askedthem this one day.

(10:21):
I said said, listen, at whatage do you think that y'all are
going to appreciate what me andMatt do for y'all?
You know what I mean, becausethey don't even appreciate it
right now they don't appreciateit.
But when they get to their 20s,their mid-20s and stuff like
that and life starts chokingthem out, that's when they start

(10:42):
thinking back and like whatthey was trying to really do for
us was was the right thing, itwas real, you know.
So yeah, but yeah, by that timeit's too late exactly yeah,
because now, now, and like Itell them not to touch you off,
like I tell them what happens isis that now you're living,
check to check, you can neverget ahead.

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Start saving your money now.

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Speaker 8 (11:54):
He never gets it.

Speaker 1 (11:55):
He never gets it, but we do got Badge502 in the house
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How are you sir?

Speaker 8 (12:00):
I am just this side of fantastic.
How are you?

Speaker 1 (12:02):
I appreciate you joining, asalways, brother.
I am just this side offantastic.

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How are you?
I appreciate you joining, asalways, brother, love the shirt,
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Kong, in this beast, you should live here.
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Oh, craig gifted 10 more memberships.

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Thank, you Craig.

Speaker 1 (12:53):
Craig going off tonight.
He's trying to get Marine blood.
I mean, tonight is a first ofmany, so let's see if we can get
Marine blood, because all thecrap we've been having going, it
doesn't look like he got onethough.

Speaker 4 (13:07):
I'm convinced it's in his settings.
Man, it's got to be, it's gotto be his settings.

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He showed them to us before.
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give it to youtube, man.
Google doesn't have enoughmoney I know right, exactly, um.

Speaker 1 (13:34):
So, uh, let me get over to lawrence real quick now.
Lawrence, you did, uh, youretired out of chicago which you
, you made it, brother, you madeit.
That's all I got to say.
Um, now can you give us alittle background?
What did you specialize in, uh,while you were out there and,

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uh, what was your favorite thingin a patrol?

Speaker 7 (13:57):
My favorite thing in patrol was FTO.
That was my favorite thing.
Um, when I became official uh,official FTO, um was my favorite
thing.
When I became official,official FTO I mean the bottom
line guys I just understood thatwe can still connect, make
connections with people withoutthis us versus me mentality.

(14:18):
And I got, you know, I eventhough the department doesn't
teach that.
You know, when I started in theacademy they were against that.
They taught against it and youstill get those particular
people who tend to grow up in acertain way that they feel that
it's us against them.
And I was fortunate enough totrick the ones.

(14:39):
All I trained were good peopleand I was an extension of the
academy.
So I just were good people andI was an extension of the
academy.
So I just wanted good peopleand I wanted to understand that
you could balance, keep yourselfbalanced, by training
throughout your career.
We all know that if you don'ttrain, you're not going to be an

(15:00):
effective police officer.
So I insisted, that was one ofmy big things when I had my
recruits.
So you know, 21 years I trainedfor 21 years Twice a week,
every week.
I'm well versed in defensetactics Great, I'm a jiu-jitsu
guy.
I'm a Wing Chun guy, but Ifollow the department's policy.

Speaker 1 (15:23):
I like it.
Don't say Wing Chun becauseIzzo's going to hear about it.
I'm a Wing Chun guy, but Ifollow the department's policy.
I like it.
I like it.
Don't say Wing Chun becauseIzzo's going to hear about it.
I'm going to hear Izzo.
I told you.
I told you, you waste your timewith that jujitsu because you
like to tactically ground hugmen on the ground.

Speaker 7 (15:35):
I love that song man, Everybody Wing Chun tonight
it's a great jam, yeah right,great jam just may I say too,
there's only two really movesthat correlate directly with the
use of force of my departmentso I, I that's just two moves.

Speaker 1 (15:52):
Well, that's it.
That makes it easy for formastering a move that's it you
know it's.
What did he say?
You don't want to master 10 000kicks.
You know, one time you need tomaster one kick 10 000 times.
Uh, yeah, something like that.
Um, oscar, my man.
Now this is what's funny and I Iget shit if I give a platform

(16:15):
to somebody like frank.
Fridays with frank, which youmay not know him, but he's a
very well outspoken cop that'sout there that some may or may
not like.
Frank's my buddy, he's myfriend, my buddy, yeah.
So I'll get crap for having him.
But then I'll get crap forhaving a guy like long island
audit on my show and peopledon't like him because he's an

(16:39):
auditor and they say that he'sout there, they call him a
frauditor.
So I get shit from one side forhaving you know what they're
considering a criminal when he'sout there doing what I consider
education and doing stuff theright way, respectful um.
And then you have, uh, guyslike frank that are out there
that I mean just follow theletter of the law they in and

(17:02):
has a controversial past whichhe's explained.
So I get both sides for givinga platform to those people.
Oscar, can you tell people yourbackground so people know where
you're coming from and how youspecifically can get to these
kids where I wouldn't have achance.

Speaker 5 (17:22):
Oh, yeah, not a problem.
I wouldn't have a chance.
Oh yes, not a problem.
So just so y'all know, I did 30years in prison for a crime I
didn't commit, right and youknow, by the grace of God I was

(17:45):
in a prison with natural life,you know.
And so one day I was on adebate team and when I was on
the debate team we had a debateand it was going to use my story
as the reason why we needed aparole board in Illinois and we
invited some legislators.
The legislators came down,senators and state

(18:06):
representatives, you know, 30came, 30 denied the invitations
that we sent them.
So when they came, I was ableto tell my story because the
teacher told me.
She said well, the debate isgetting too long, we're going to
have to have you write your ownstory.
So when they came, I told themmy story and when I told them my

(18:27):
story, every legislator in theroom was like what you did 30
years for that?
And so they said we've got tochange the law, we've got to
change the laws because this isan atrocity.
But none of them did anything.
It was one legislator that tookan interest in my case and she
happened to be from where I'mfrom, which was even more.

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That's why they had the graceof God.
But she came down and beganinvestigating my case and she
saw, and she wrote me a letterand the governor granted me a
commutation of sentence.
But what he did is he gave me70 years.
Right, so I may have had fivemore years left, but I had a

(19:12):
case sent to the courts at thesame time and when the judge
looked at my case he asked mylawyer.
He said how did you do 30 yearsfor this?
And my lawyer said that's whatwe've been trying to figure out.
So he told the judge and thestate that y'all need to talk.
So they began talking and theyended up saying okay, in the

(19:32):
interest of justice, they gaveme 50 years, we'll put me out
the door, which, having done 10more years than what they had
gave me.
But the reason why I bring thatup is because that's where I get
my passion to try to mentorthese youth, because of the
simple fact that being locked upin a cage is not for being, and

(19:57):
that's what I try to convey tothem.
Actually, right before wetalked here, I teach a class in
the juvenile justice.
With the juvenile justice, thejuvenile is locked up, I get
them connected to me so thatwhen they get out I make sure
they get jobs, so that they youknow that's what we do in the
reentry, and actually our formof reentry is trying to catch

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them at younger ages so thatthey don't go to prison in the
first place.
So we should call it preentry.
The reason why I say that isbecause we're trying to be
pre-venom instead of post-venom.
You know what I mean venominstead of uh, post venom.
You know what I mean?
I was a part of a uh, uh, aviolence prevention team where
we would hear about a crime, uh,a shooting or something like

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that, and then we would go onthe scene and we would go and
ask questions like reporters.
We didn't prevent anything.
So I'm trying to get free.
You know what I mean from thatperspective there.
But I ended up getting outafter a few more months and
that's.
You know that's how it happened, so you did?

Speaker 1 (20:58):
you did the 30 years.
Um, you got not.
You got involved with Matt onthis program and you guys
started, you know, mentoringthese youths.
Now I I'm going to have you onfor a full podcast, like tonight
.
We're just I just want peopleto see you kind of get to know
you.
Same with Lawrence, we're goingto do the same thing with
Lawrence.

(21:18):
We're going to talk, we'regoing to go back and forth.
So you guys kind of get to knowthem a little bit.
But you're not going to get thewhole in-depth thing tonight,
because tonight is we watchvideos, we talk with our
audience and that's kind of whatwe do here tonight.
But I wanted to give people alittle teaser tonight with you,
oscar, and with lawrence if wecan get him on, and since we got
you both, it's kind of the ideatonight.
So now you guys got it kind ofgot it in your head.

(21:39):
And one of the things I want topoint out is a stat that matt
had told me and oscar you youconfirm if it was, it's pretty
close to this but 90, 90 youththat he dealt with that had been
shot and 17 of them ended upbeing killed later.
Because that is the reality ofthe types of kids you guys are

(21:59):
helping.

Speaker 5 (22:01):
Yeah, and and and you know, from that perspective,
yeah, we try to, like I say,catch the ones, cause once, once
them, you get into the game,right, it's almost impossible to
get them out.
So what we're trying to do iscatch them at younger ages,

(22:21):
before they even get there.
That's the pre part of it.
You know we still got a lot ofguys that we mentor, that you
know that it's hard to you knowwe can only do so much with them
.
You know what I mean Becausethey're already in it and they
feel that they have no way outof it.
They did a gang summit one timeand some of the guys you know

(22:45):
called on the phone.
Somebody called them on thephone and said you know, how can
I get out?
You know, because I'm in here,I'm in this town with everybody,
and that's another thing.
That's the other thing thatthey deal with is the gang.
You know it ain't really gangsanymore, they're cliques.
They get with their friends andthe peer pressure.
That's why I always talk to theyouth about peer pressure,

(23:06):
fighting against the peerpressure.

Speaker 7 (23:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (23:08):
But you know, and when you talk about as far as
where I can get in, most youthwant to know that you got skin
in the game right.
So that's how I'm able to getin with them because of the fact
that I've been there and I cancome and tell them about that
and I can let them know.
So that gave me an in.
But, like I say, my thing isjust to make sure that they

(23:31):
don't go through what I wentthrough.

Speaker 1 (23:32):
Like I say, my thing is just to make sure that they
don't go through what I wentthrough.
Yes, um.
So I'm curious, lawrence,because you were so damn close
to what he's referring to.
How did you, through your time,help try to deal with some of
these?
Because I've seen gangbangersat nine years old nine years old

(23:53):
stealing cars, and you try totell that to people that are not
in the space and they eithersimply can't believe it.
No, you're embellishing, you'reexaggerating that fact.
No, I've seen an element of anine-year-old and two
10-year-olds stealing carstogether, a nine-year-old and
two 10-year-olds stealing carstogether, and they were bringing

(24:14):
it to their 16-year-old cousin,who would then flip the car
overnight at a chop shop,somewhere that they knew, or
sell it to a local drug dealer,and they would do that stuff.
So for me I'm just curious,because you're awfully close to
where Oscar was at Very close,actually, so, and we know the

(24:34):
gang issues in Chicago.
So how was it for you?

Speaker 7 (24:37):
As long as I respected them, they respected
me.
That was really simple.
We got out with them, walkedaround.
You know I was still, you know,cautious cautious is what I had
, you know, walking around outthere and whatever the case may
be, but I respected them andthey gave me their utmost
respect and I had a nickname,ball head, and they and we got

(24:59):
along for my entire career thatI was out there I'm sorry, every
one of you bald motherfuckers Icall milk duds white chocolate
milk, right?

Speaker 1 (25:13):
oh man, hey, uh, badge 502.
You have a fan on here tonight.
What's the deal?

Speaker 8 (25:18):
I don't know man freaking hi, cousin mom, I told
you not to every time right.

Speaker 1 (25:28):
So um hi, badge five but you guys don't know this.
But badge 502, we're trying to.
We're trying to find a space toget him under the fold of the
DTV stuff more.
As soon as we go out and filmthese pilots, I think we're
going to have a real shot atgetting him what he's looking to
do and we're going to supportthat however we can.
That's a hope.
See if we can work that out,sir.

Speaker 8 (26:00):
But while we got you, what are some of the things you
got going on right now, buddy,oh, it's been pretty wild.
You know my um.
We are.
We're currently 30, a littleover 33 weeks, uh, pregnant.
So we just did a um, a littleonline uh baby shower type deal
because I was asked to uh, it'snot really something that I I
wanted to do, necessarily, butthe the batch 502 community kept
asking me to put the babyregistry online, so I gave it a
few extra steps.
I went ahead and put it on mywebsite so people had a little

(26:21):
work to do if they wanted to seeit, but they ended up
bombarding us.
So we did half of the babyshower online today.
We're going to do it again inabout a week because we got a
few more that came in.
So right now it's just been alot of home life and content
creating and just biding timeuntil the pitter-patter happens.

Speaker 1 (26:38):
What's going to happen when your kid has to
explain to his friends thatthat's not his grandpa watching
him graduate?
It's a dad.
It's going to be real tough.

Speaker 8 (26:46):
I'm sure I'm going to get that.
Your granddaughter is so cute.
I'll be like thanks, get awayfrom me.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm sure I'mgoing to get that.
Your grand, your granddaughteris so cute.
I'd be like thanks, get awayfrom me.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (26:54):
Yeah, yeah, make sure , can you tell them real quick.
For any of the new people thatdon't know who you are, Can you
tell them, kind of your yourfirst responder background.

Speaker 8 (27:04):
So I'm a 911 emergency medical dispatcher.
I've been working for thepolice for about a little over
five years now.
Cpr instructor I've been doingall this for roughly about the

(27:24):
same time CPR instructor forabout three years.
I got into it right in theheight of COVID.
I started EMT school about amonth before COVID hit and, yeah
, it just kind of spiraled fromthere.
We went from completelyin-person interactions to not
being able to meet, not beingable to do anything.
In fact it probably took me itprobably took me three times

(27:47):
longer to graduate EMT school.
I think I was in the EMT schoolfor a little over nine months.
I felt like to uh once Ifinally passed.
So it was rough.
You know, actually I guess Istarted two months before covet
started and, uh, finished upright in the guts of it.
So that's nice.
That was an exciting time.
An exciting time to become a uh, a medical professional hell

(28:08):
yeah.

Speaker 1 (28:09):
Well, okay, now you guys have a little background in
502 if he's new to y'all.
But uh, I want to get Banningon here.
He's been pretty quiet tonight,banning.

Speaker 8 (28:17):
Look at that guy.

Speaker 1 (28:18):
Give people your background real quick, because I
know some of the guys on thepanel will want to know too.

Speaker 8 (28:23):
I can see he just got back from work.
I see his signal in thebackground.

Speaker 3 (28:27):
Hey, Banning, hold on just one second.
So I just have to give a shoutout Go join our Discord.
One of our fans actually tooktheir shirt off, so they joined
my crew.
I sit with that one.

Speaker 4 (28:41):
Whoever didn't hear that?
That's our Discord.
We'll throw it up in the chatsection several times tonight
for y'all to come join us there.
For those of y'all that don'tknow me, I'm not that special
Name's Banning Sweatland.
Right after high school servedin the Marine Corps, Did some
really cool stuff in there.
When I got to transition fromthe Marines into law enforcement

(29:03):
I got out basically two weeksafter the towers or two weeks
before the towers got hit on9-11.
Got right into law enforcementvery early on in my career.
Got into canine, Did canine foralmost 10 years.
My dog's name was Mary Jane.
She was great for finding MaryJane and other illicit
substances.
So then I, you know, after 10long years of doing that, went

(29:27):
back into patrol and I was downin the Dallas-Fort Worth area
for the majority of my career.
I retired one time it was out ofHaltom City I can say their
name now Great city to work forand then moved out to we call it
BFE out in Jack County, Texas.
Worked for Jack's BoroughPolice Department for a couple
years as running the patroldivision and then head to the

(29:50):
county.
I saw some issues at the countyand went out there to try to
fix them.
I ran for sheriff, lost by acouple hundred votes and decided
to pop smoke, enter the privatesector in the law enforcement
tech industry, and I now workfor a company called Mark 43.
That's a computer-aideddispatch report management
system and analytics piece forlaw enforcement.
That's Banning in a Nutshell.

(30:11):
I served three years on theNational Law enforcement officer
hall of fame board.
It was outstanding and, uh, rana non-profit of my own for my
own as well.
But again, just a just a normalguy out here to trying to make
the world better one small pieceat a time I like it, love it.

Speaker 1 (30:29):
Uh, wade's.
Wade's talking some smack, hegoes.
I've been shot at more timesthan all of the panel put
together because he said he grewup on the line of the Bloods
and Crips.

Speaker 8 (30:38):
You don't know, man, ems is a rough life.
You ever forget to bring astair chair into a house.
Man, it's dangerous moves.

Speaker 1 (30:47):
We got somebody saying good morning from Japan.

Speaker 8 (30:51):
Konnichiwa.

Speaker 1 (30:52):
Yeah, yeah, dormio omegato, mr roboto.
I think that's what it is um,there we go my, I don't know if
you know this.

Speaker 8 (31:01):
Uh, my, my counterpart, uh, rob, have you
seen any of rob the emt's uhcontent?
I have not, I refuse so emsrobert's kind of like the yin to
my yang.
He does a lot of the uh yeseswhen I say no.
If you can kind of put thepicture on that, rob is uh
almost fluent in japanese, soI've learned quite a bit from
him.

(31:21):
It's wild he's.
He has so many like interestingstories.
He's like I spent two yearsstudying japanese over in japan
at a university over there andhe blocked you, correct he what?

Speaker 1 (31:31):
and he blocked you right I have.

Speaker 8 (31:33):
Honestly, he probably .
I don't see why he hasn't.
I have two videos where I tiedhim up in the video with cravats
.
I mean, at this point you'dthink he would have.

Speaker 1 (31:41):
Nice Super smart.

Speaker 8 (31:45):
Super smart.
He's a parkour athlete.
It's like what the hell?
What do you not do?

Speaker 1 (31:50):
I didn't know I would put parkour and athlete in the
same thing together.

Speaker 8 (31:57):
But you know, don't get me wrong.

Speaker 1 (31:58):
You have to have athletic ability to do parkour.

Speaker 8 (32:01):
Yeah, I mean I blew my back out freaking trying to
change the light bulb in myrefrigerator yesterday.

Speaker 1 (32:05):
Yeah, but I'm not calling you an athlete because
you'd choose to jump frombuilding to building like an
idiot.
It's not my thing.
Sorry, now you can go playBatman on your own time.

Speaker 8 (32:19):
That's Banning's job.

Speaker 1 (32:21):
Oh man, that would be 300 pounds of just wrecking
ball going across building tobuilding.
You guys ever seen thejuggernaut start building up
speed?
That's going to be Banning.
We'll see if our plane gets inthe air tomorrow.
There you go, okay.
So, um, before we get startedon the videos, I just want to

(32:41):
give everybody a little updateon what we got going on with dtv
and uh, two cops, one, donutand matt and and banning and
stuff we got going on.
We have two pilots that we'regoing to film in Scottsdale.
Tomorrow is when we fly out andit's going to be all week long,
so we are trying to get a live.

(33:03):
Tomorrow night we have someguests that may be stopping by
because Friday's with Franklives out there, so does
America's Sheriff Mark Lamb,frank.
Friday's with frank lives outthere.
So does, um, freaking, I'mamerica, sheriff, uh lamb jesus,
mark lamb I can't think offucking names all of a sudden,
so they may stop by.
Um, I do know retro rifleslocated in arizona, so we may be

(33:27):
able to try to get them.
Um, but really what we want todo is just kind of give you a
behind the scenes.
It's not really going to be somuch like a body cam live or
anything like that.
We just make go live and justhang out and then let you guys
sit there and chill with uswhile we hang out.
So that may be what we gotgoing on, because other than
that, I don't know how much timewe're going to have to do

(33:47):
anything else, because we'regoing to be filming every day,
all day.
We're really excited.
So we're going to be doing areal-time crime center pilot and
we're going to be doing a umfirst responder tech pilot, so
where we talk about all thelatest and greatest technologies
coming out.
So I want you guys to think thetechnology show.
I want you to think top gearmeets um, mythbusters, if you

(34:10):
will.
So that's that's kind of thelook we're going for.
That's going to have me, mattban Banning and Jared Cosina,
who is also a part of what wegot going on and then the
real-time crime center show isreally just going to be about
the people that do the job andme and Jared and maybe Matt or,
I'm sorry, maybe Banning willchime in from here and there.
But again, it's a concept, it'sa pilot to see if we can get

(34:35):
interest and get those going.
Then, if we can get those going, those are going to help fund
all the other things that we gotgoing.
Oscar can tell you all thefilming that we've been doing
with Matt.
We got a lot going with Matt.
He's killing it.

Speaker 5 (34:50):
That's what he did.
Okay, I got you.
That's us telling he's killingit.
Oh, that's what he did.
Okay, I'll be seeing.
Okay, I got you.
Yep, yep, that's our that's.

Speaker 1 (34:56):
That's us telling Matt is a, he's a soldier.
I tell you, if you tell Matt,if I want you to do this, matt's
going to do it.
He's going to do it exactly howyou tell him to do it and he
hey.

Speaker 4 (35:09):
Eric, that retro rifle is a 12-minute drive from
where we're staying.
Just FYI, there we go.

Speaker 1 (35:15):
I tried to order a couple new shirts before we went
out and I couldn't, so I knewthat they were out there.
I was like we'll just stopsomewhere and I'll get some
shirts.
So that's the way we'll do it.
And then let me see Any othernews other than that.
Oh, we just filmed an interviewwith lenny nabetsky.

(35:36):
Um, he's a retired new jerseystate trooper.
Uh, banning was on that one.
It's our first in studio.
Uh, combo, and I do have toapologize I've got two really
good lenses and then a kit lens,so I've got three cameras.
The one that was on banning wasthe kit lens and it was.
It zoomed in on him pretty good, so I apologize for that.

Speaker 4 (36:00):
It's not terrible, but it's a little apologies that
those have to see my mug thatclose and, and for some reason,
banning only wanted to stare atlenny.

Speaker 1 (36:10):
I don't know if he was infatuated with him, but he
refused to look at the camera.
We probably would have figuredout the issue early if he had
looked at the camera once in awhile man, when you, when
somebody's addressing you, youlook at him and you make eye
contact, man and I.

Speaker 4 (36:22):
Just that's the way I do business and I forget that
cameras are even in the room.
Yeah, it's just banning talking, so I don't want to think
somebody to think that I'mlooking because I give shit less
about the damn cameras, man butme, as I'm trying to like
produce this thing, I'm like inmy head I'm yelling at banning.
Look at the camera, look at thefucking camera next time you put
a freaking burger or taco aboveit, man, I'll stare at it all

(36:44):
night all right, okay, so here'swhat we're going to do next,
guys.

Speaker 1 (36:48):
we're going to um, we're going to pull up some
videos that got some goodresponses from our social media
pages and I'm going to go toYouTube first, oscar and
Lawrence and get your guys'sreaction on it.
So, before you, we talk aboutwhat my reaction is and we're
going to kind of flush out whatwe think about those videos

(37:09):
Sound like a good plan.
Oh yeah, hell yeah, guys, let'sget going.
All right, I'm going to sharethe screen here and um.

Speaker 5 (37:23):
We're gonna scroll down one second.

Speaker 1 (37:28):
I accidentally started another video in the
background.
I can hear it.
Oh my god, another video in thebackground and I can hear it.
Oh my God, one second.

(37:48):
There we go.
Okay, I couldn't find the videothat was making all the noise
in my headphones that you guyscouldn't hear.
Couldn't find the video thatwas making all the noise in my
headphones that you guyscouldn't hear One second.
All right, where is the videowe're sharing?
Okay, here we go.
You guys can see that, right.
Yep, okay, okay.
So quick background.
If you can't read the big title, this is in England or the UK

(38:12):
or something like that.
It is a 92 year old man who isa double leg amputee.
Okay, so just know that goinginto this, put it down, put it
down, put it down Seriously.

Speaker 8 (38:29):
Can you hold that door?
Put it down.
Lost chance.
Can you hold that door?
I can't get through, donald.
Put it down.
Put it down now.
Come on, last chance, right,put it down, drop the knife.

Speaker 2 (38:41):
Drop the knife.

Speaker 5 (38:44):
Look out the door.
Do it now.

Speaker 6 (38:46):
Drop the knife, Donald drop the knife, oh this
is better babe.
Donald.

Speaker 2 (38:53):
Put it down Put it down, put it down.

Speaker 1 (38:58):
All right.
So you guys just saw that We'vegot a 92-year-old double
amputee and the report listedthat the knife was a butter
knife and he's staying in somesort of assisted living and
obviously he wasn't going downwithout a fight there.
So I'm going to go to Lawrencefirst.

(39:19):
Oh God, all right.
Lawrence man, now just kind oflet the crowd know how you work.

Speaker 7 (39:28):
All right.
Well, I told you guys I'm goodon verbal judo de-escalation
tactics.
I would have been there a whileuntil I created some sort of
connection with them.
I couldn't have done that.
I would have found some way.

(39:48):
I mean, I've been in.
I was not in those exactsituations, but I've been in
some similar situations.
We just have to those exactsituations, but I've been some
similar situations.
We just have to wait it outsometimes you got all day.
It's not like you got.
You know.
You got two or three minutes,we got all day and we got a full
tour duty.
I'm gonna take that time andand try to get create some sort
of connection, and that'susually what I do.

Speaker 1 (40:09):
So thank you, okay, so your your your suggestion,
which is crazy to think to, towait.
I mean, that dude is, you know,five minutes from a scheduled
nap.
Anyway, that's the way I seethat my man's about to kick in.
Like why, why are we rushingthat?

(40:34):
We used the entire use of forcecontinuum on this man in the
span of five seconds.
We went from pepper spray tobaton to taser, all in the span
of like 15 seconds on a man thatis not chasing anything.
So, all right, austin, my man,you are not a cop, so I want to

(40:55):
know what is you as a civilian?
How are you looking at policewhen you see that, oh, am I
looking at police?

Speaker 5 (41:03):
yeah be the truth.
Give me the truth.
I'm gonna definitely give youthe truth.
The only thing is, is thisright?
I can't say I look at thepolice, I look at him.
You follow what I'm saying.
The guy that did every policenot gonna do like that.
That's one of the things thatwe got to realize, and I, you
know is that every police is notgonna operate like that right.

(41:26):
So when we start stereo andother police because of the way
somebody do it, that's not.
I don't think that's right.
You follow what I'm saying.
But he was definitely excessive.
It was definitely excessivebecause it's been done better.
You know he needed probably tohave, uh, lawrence's
de-escalation tank.

(41:47):
You can tell you don't have anyreally de-escalation tanks, but
you know, as far as how I lookat the police as a whole, don't
look at them any differentbecause I know that that's not
what everybody would do.
That's just one person that'sdoing that right, yeah, yeah,
it's um.

Speaker 1 (42:05):
So I'll give you guys my two cents.
I'm I'm looking in the chat,I'm just waiting for mr billfold
to go off.
Oh, he already did a little bit.
He goes or walk over and grabthe freaking butter knife, right
, yeah?
For me there's absolutely andyou guys can hear it in my
explanation absolutely zeroreason to be using any use of

(42:30):
force at that point.
As Lawrence said, you got allday.
That dude's going to fallasleep before he's a problem to
anybody else.
And if he's going to use abutter knife on himself, okay,
so be it.
If he decides to do it, he's 92, y'all, he's earned it.
If he wants to use it onhimself, all right.
As soon as he passes out ordrops the knife, I'll move in.

(42:54):
But I'm not going to doanything.
I'm not going to rush that.
You tased him, you peppersprayed him.
I mean, maybe it was on hisbucket list, maybe that's what
he wanted, maybe he's like screwit.
I've lived a long life.
I ain't never been in a fight.
I lost my legs to diabetes, Idon't know.
And now he's trying to go outwith his boots on.

Speaker 4 (43:16):
Tell me what you got banning.
I can just think of happygilmore.
When you think about that dudethat's watching his grandmother
makes me want to uh punch thestaff in the face.
For how sometimes these I knowthere's some good nursing homes
out there.
I'm not saying they're bad, butI unfortunately I've had to
read the reports of some of themin texas's just disgusting Um.
What I would do is I'd find thelunch lady, get a couple of
pieces of toast, I'd sit next tohim, we'd butter it up, he'd

(43:38):
probably put it down and and Icould slowly slide it away and
he's probably do a medication.
He might've been denied, uhfrigging, somebody to come visit
him.
The guy's nose is frigging.
Uh, his, his life is limited.
Family can't probablyfinancially take care of him at
their house or it's not bigenough.
So there's probably a lot offamily issues there and man,

(43:59):
it's just time to sit back.
Just like Lawrence said, it'sfrigging.
You're on taxpayer dime.
It doesn't mean.
If you're there for an extrahour, who gives a shit.
Take care of the people thatyou've got to take care of.

Speaker 1 (44:11):
Yeah, I'm with you.
Yeah, I saw that video andinstantly like because I keep
putting out.
One of my favorite things to doright now is find videos of
cops from other countries,because one of the big things
that people always say well,they do it so much better in the
, in the euro, they do it somuch better in australia.
They do it so much better injapan.
I'm like, listen, there'sdemons in all of them.

(44:32):
They, I promise you, if you goto japan, I'm like, listen,
there's demons in all of them.
I promise you, if you go tojapan, I think that's the, their
mafia, like the yakuza orwhatever it is.
They've got whole assterritories, like the size of
counties, that the police don'tgo into and there's just bodies,
just bodies they don't like andthat's the places the tourists
don't go.
But they have a lot moremilitaristic control over their

(44:57):
country.
Like if you think, as a UScitizen, you're just going to be
able to go wherever the hellyou want over there, you can't
and the police will stop you.
So that's what I'm trying totell you, like each place has
its own demons.
So that's what I'm trying toshow you.
Yes, there's places we canimprove here in the US for sure.
So that's what I'm trying toshow you.
Yes, there's places we canimprove here in the US for sure.
I mean, we see it all the timewith these First Amendment audit

(45:17):
videos, the 2A videos, the, youknow, force an ID, all these
different things.
There's things we need to workon.
We got our own demons.

Speaker 4 (45:28):
But let's also start at legislation.
Das, judges.

Speaker 5 (45:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (45:33):
Yeah, and I think we the whole circle.

Speaker 5 (45:36):
And I just think it's you know, from the perspective
of the question that you askedme.
I just think it's you know it'swrong to categorize everybody
based on the actions of oneperson.
You follow what I'm saying, soyeah.

Speaker 1 (45:52):
Those two cops.
I'm just, those are the twocops.
So yeah, those two cops.

Speaker 5 (45:55):
I'm just.
Those are the two cops.
Yeah, definitely I was going towhere you asked me the question
how I look at the police in thehome.
That's how I look at the policeas a whole.
That's why I was saying it likethat.
Go ahead though.

Speaker 1 (46:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (46:12):
You know I don't know everybody every department's
use of force policy.
However, I'm pretty surethere's a policy where you can't
tase a 92-year-old Definitelyin our policy.
So I already know some otherdepartment policy.

(46:32):
However, like you said, hecan't walk, he can sit there,
you can wait it out and we'reall trained.
We're all trained.
Now the problem is did thattraining soak in and did you
continue?
Were you consistent with thetraining throughout your career?
That's extremely importantBecause if you don't handcuff
for six months, you're going toforget.

Speaker 1 (46:54):
Right.

Speaker 7 (46:55):
So none of the training, any of the training
that you receive, whether youknow it's, I know, it's kind of
basic in the academy.
However, if you don't even keepup with that, you're going to
do what those two did.

Speaker 1 (47:07):
And that goes into like badge 502 career field, I
think it's.
I think when you don't get therepetitions in there, this is my
biggest fear on the medicalside, because you'll see EMTs,
you'll see, you know yourambulances, whatever you want to
call them, come out and you'llsee the rookie come out and
you'll see the person that ishas been um off of work.

(47:30):
They've been on work.
You know, oh, oh days, they'vebeen hurt and they come back and
they'll say something like yeah, I just got back.
You know, now I'm out with therookie, I want the rookie on me
right away.
I want the rookie.
Why?
Because the guy that's been outthere, that's been off duty and
hasn't got the reps in.

Speaker 8 (47:49):
It is a perishable skill it's a perishable skill,
for sure so the stuff you shouldtrain the most is the stuff
that you use the least.

Speaker 1 (47:57):
Yeah, and that's what I get into when I try to tell
these people about controltactics or some of the like.
A lot of people on here they'relike they need to train more on
the Constitution and theacademy and I'm like, listen,
when you come from a podunkdepartment and you don't face
any actual constitutional thingsthat you learned in the academy

(48:20):
and you don't get the reps in,when the worst thing that
happens is, you know, aunt may'scomplaining about the next door
neighbor's trash can that blewover in your yard, you start to
lose that stuff.
It's not an excuse, it's justreality.
And these dumbasses that wecatch in the police world on

(48:41):
camera were like how does thishappen?
Well, this is how it happens.

Speaker 8 (48:44):
You better call somebody.

Speaker 1 (48:47):
You're not having to rep police and we got Alan.
I mean, hey, the one argument Iwill put up there though, is we
got Alan.

Speaker 3 (48:55):
I mean Alan, hey.
The one argument I will put upthere, though, is in the
department I worked in, I had tolearn how to talk really well
because I was the backup thatwas coming.
Oh, wow, and so I had to learnhow to handle myself in
situations when you're byyourself and you may have one
other coming with you.

Speaker 1 (49:16):
So questions, Alan, because you did come from a very
small agency I want to know, inall reality, with all of this
that we've been doing on thepodcast you've been a part of
this for a long time the stuffthat we've talked about in the
reps that we get in has therebeen a point that you sat back
and you're like, damn, Iwouldn't have remembered that
while I was out there, because Ididn't face this, or I don't

(49:46):
remember learning this, or Ilearned it and I forgot it.

Speaker 3 (49:56):
I mean, honestly, the extensive amount of training
that I got was coming out of theacademy and you know you have
to push the issue because to goto any continuing ed or anything
like that, you know, a lot oftimes the agency shorthanded so
they didn't have time to sendyou to another training and so I
had to be the type of personthat wanted to improve myself to
force it to happen.
And you know there was.
You know, especially now that Iwatch the show and listen,

(50:21):
there's so many things that youknow, like in the beginning I
was like why would I havethought that way?
And now that I've been aroundand kind of, you know, sucked it
in and, you know, been like asponge a sponge.
I wish more officers could justgo and experience field
training with a field trainingofficer from a big agency for a

(50:42):
month and then go back, becausethere's things that I don't
think you would ever experience.
Eric on my side of things, andthere's definitely things on the
night.
You know, when I went and rodealong with you, you know there's
things there that I would havenever experienced, and so being
able to make themselves better,that, I really think is is an

(51:03):
issue.
There's nobody around heretalking about auditors, and
unless you're smart enough tounderstand that, you need to

(51:25):
improve on that.
You know I know of a localsituation.
I'm still commissioned there,so I won't talk about it but you
know they messed it up and itwas not the right, right call by
the officer.
When you walk in and you'retrying to get somebody to talk

(51:45):
about a certain get an officerto come talk to you and then
they are filming through thewindow and everybody's like, oh,
you can't film this, well, waita minute.
Like, if you don't want me tofilm it, don't put it in the
window.
Like that's.
That's that you know, and we'vetalked about that how many
times.
But this is within the lastyear, shouldn't still be

(52:07):
happening but but we see it.

Speaker 1 (52:10):
No, and and that's one of the things that's kind,
and I want to read mr Billfold'sresponse here.
He says I refuse to believeit's a training issue.
There are 12-year-olds thatknow more about constitutional
rights than the majority of LEOs.
I think it's willful disregard,not lack of training.
I think that that's a mutuallyexclusive ideology and I don't
agree with it.
I think that there's a littlebit of what you're saying right.

(52:36):
I think there's a little bit oflack of repetition.
So it you don't have the repsin and it starts to go away.
Um, then you've got poortraining period.
I think it's a little bit of allof it and just depends on where
we go when we talk about it,what the issue really is.
Um, clearly, like that joffreyon guy that we talked about in
that disposition, like that is,that is exactly what you're

(53:01):
talking about.
I think that's willfulignorance.
I think that that officeryou're talking about is, uh,
absolutely that craig gift andanother membership.
Thanks, brother, appreciate it.
Um, but, uh, and and then, oh,I, I did want to mention um bmhc
outdoors you became a baker'sdozen.
So, thank you very much, sir,appreciate you.

(53:23):
Um, yeah, I I.
So the way that I kind of seeit is, it's a little bit of
everything.
It's lack of reps, lack oftraining, um, and then willful
ego, ignorance, stuff all comes,comes in.
He said disagree all you like,the proof is in the pudding.

(53:45):
Well, I just disagreed, and Ibacked it up with a logical
response.
So now it's your turn.
If you want to argue me, thengive a logical response, Not the
proofs in the pudding.
That's not proof, brother.
So go ahead.

Speaker 7 (54:02):
I just want to respond to that too.
We have people on the outsidelooking in, and a lot of people,
when they're on the outsidelooking in, they really don't
have a clue.
They have an idea, but reallydon't have a clue.
They have an idea, but thatdoesn't actually mean that you
know those are the facts, andwhen you yes, I agree some of it

(54:22):
, you know you get those onceyou learn, once you go into the
academy.
If you're not consistent withthat training, you will forget.
There's no doubt in that.
But you know, you still havepeople coming up to police
officers asking them about theThird Amendment, the 12th
Amendment.
I'm like, those amendmentsdon't apply to the police, to
policing.
So you know, and I do agree,though, that we all should know

(54:46):
the amendments that apply to lawenforcement.

Speaker 1 (54:49):
Absolutely, and I agree.
I agree.
I don't.
It's not an excuse.
I'm getting feedback in my head.
I hear it too.
I'm not, don't?
It's not an excuse, I'm gettingfeedback in my head.

Speaker 4 (54:56):
I hear it too.

Speaker 1 (54:57):
I'm not sure who it's coming from.
I'm going to mute Oscars realquick because it tends to be
phones, so I'm going to see testtest, test one, two.
I'm not hearing are you guyshearing it?
No, I'm going to unmute him.
We're running through ourtechnical difficulties again in
it.
No, I'm going to unmute him.
We're running through ourtechnical difficulties again,
okay.

Speaker 8 (55:15):
Just crossing them all off the list.

Speaker 1 (55:18):
Tactical, you, son of a bitch he's like.
Remember Joffrey was trained bythe United States Security
Forces.
If you don't know this,Lawrence and Oscar, I am
security forces for the AirForce.
Our military brothers on herethat aren't Air Force love to
poke me every chance they can.

Speaker 7 (55:35):
Air Force here too, I hear you too See See.

Speaker 4 (55:42):
Y'all do have the best bases.
I'm not going to lie.

Speaker 8 (55:45):
Jim Clash here too.

Speaker 1 (55:47):
That best, chow all that stuff yeah.

Speaker 5 (55:51):
All right Air Force.

Speaker 1 (55:54):
You see what's up.

Speaker 8 (55:56):
It's all funny games.
Make fun of the Air Force untilyou need them, because when
they show up man.

Speaker 1 (56:02):
You go soften the targets before you get there.
You're welcome.

Speaker 8 (56:06):
I know I guard the planes.

Speaker 1 (56:09):
I guard the planes.

Speaker 8 (56:10):
I take that ladder off.
Here's a ladder.
I stand there with my gun, Iguard the planes, so you got to
take that ladder off.
Here's a ladder.

Speaker 1 (56:14):
A little one-run ladder.
I stand there with my gun, poorarms, and I'm like don't cross
that line.

Speaker 8 (56:19):
The real fast.
Salute that the pilot's gotthat real fast one.

Speaker 1 (56:23):
Oh yeah, yeah, Sharp, I like it.
All.
Right, let's share screen.
Let's go to which one is thiscalled, can you?

Speaker 8 (56:34):
I was actually down at the Jersey Shore the other,
maybe a week ago, and we're justhanging out and I start here on
this little grumble in the skylooked up in two eight tens Just
blew right past us.

Speaker 1 (56:47):
I was like that's awesome.

Speaker 8 (56:48):
Hell yeah maybe yeah, being in South Jersey, just see
these right by all the basesdown there.
There's always cool.
That was freaking awesome, youlook up and it's like that's a
different sound.

Speaker 4 (56:59):
It's nice to listen to them down range, too, a
little bit of that bird.

Speaker 8 (57:03):
Oh my God, imagine, imagine they should send some
test rounds across freaking theJersey shore.

Speaker 1 (57:10):
All right, let's uh, let's go over to this guy here.
Um, I'm trying to find a goodfit for our setup here, but it
will not let there we go.
Now we got everybody in there.
Okay, what happens if I do this?
Oh, it does.
Let me biggie size on there.

Speaker 2 (57:32):
Let's go Was you flipping me off.

Speaker 5 (57:35):
I don't know who flipped me off.

Speaker 2 (57:37):
First Amendment protected speech.
Okay so, sir, please educateyourself on this only comment
before you start spouting.
You can't make a law againstany of my constitutional rights.
I need your name.

Speaker 8 (57:48):
Oh he mad.

Speaker 2 (57:48):
In-contract information.

Speaker 1 (57:50):
I'm not playing this game over and over with you,
okay.

Speaker 2 (57:56):
I'm telling you, you're obstructing me because
you committed.
You don't know what destructionis.

Speaker 6 (57:58):
You don't know what disorderly is.
Okay, first, I'm not arguingwith you, sir.
We're done with you for rightnow.

Speaker 2 (58:01):
First, amendment protected speech.

Speaker 5 (58:03):
That's what this is what is your last name?

Speaker 1 (58:07):
nope if you fail to identify yourself to me, you
won't go to jail, you can getone too.

Speaker 3 (58:12):
First Amendment protected Free speech.
How do you spell that, freespeech?
First Amendment?
That doesn't bug me.

Speaker 6 (58:17):
That's what you pulled me over for.

Speaker 1 (58:19):
Okay, all right, since we've done this video.
All right, I have done thesevideos a lot where cops not only
pull them over for a trafficviolation, they admit openly I
pulled you over for flipping meoff.
Why did you do that?
He mad Right, Oscar how oftenyou go around flipping off

(58:47):
police.
Don't, don't because I'm wise,I'm not stupid, I ain't trying
to get no attention.

Speaker 5 (59:01):
The thing is, if that was me right, anything he asked
me for, I'm gonna make sure Igive it to him because I want to
see what he's gonna arrest mefor.
I would want to see what he'sgonna arrest me for.
You know so I, when he askedfor my name, I would make sure
that I followed every part ofthe law.
After that, followed what I'msaying, I'm going to see what
are you going to arrest me for.
You know, flipping you off sothat I'll be ready to take that
to court.

Speaker 8 (59:22):
Could you put that in writing for me please?

Speaker 1 (59:25):
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
I love Ryan's comment here.
He even got out in the rain tobe a tyrant.
I ain't getting out of the rainfor you, for nothing sorry, bro
, being big mad is not a crime,so it better be life and limb if
I'm getting out so no, that'sall.

Speaker 5 (59:43):
I wouldn't.
I wouldn't just let him, Iwould give him my name, I
wouldn't give him, you know, notype of obstruction or nothing.

Speaker 1 (59:49):
I would just comply and that was what I like to tell
people to do, oscar, um, one ofthe things that I'll tell
people to do, oscar, one of thethings that I'll instruct people
to do, because they're alwayslike, well, what should I do if
I don't agree with it?
I'm like, okay, the side of theroad is not where you want to
argue and not comply, but whatyou can do is make your protest
noted.

(01:00:09):
Say, sir, is your body cam going?
It is Okay, cool.
I don't agree with this.
Say, sir, is your body camgoing?
It is okay, cool.
I don't agree with this.
I feel like you pulled me overfor improper Reasons, but I'm
going to give you my ID out ofyou know.
Threat Of arrest and I don't doit, but just voice what your
Protest is.
That that's A civil society.
That's how you do it.

Speaker 5 (01:00:28):
But that it was Important.
What you just said is your bodycam On, because a lot of people
don't think about doing Sayingthat right, you know what I mean
?

Speaker 1 (01:00:35):
yeah, because that lets them know that he's
accountable now yeah, and forofficers out there, the thing
that I I like to tell people,like when I do a traffic stop,
one of the things I love to dois say you know, hey, I'm
officer levine, the reason Ipulled you over is this is there
any reason you did that?
And while you're doing or canyou get your license and
insurance?
And while you're doing that,feel free to take this time to

(01:00:57):
get your cell phone out andstart recording.
I like to give them the like.
I let them know hey, I'mrecording, like I'll be
recording.
You record too.
I want you to have your own setof evidence.
Um, but you really had to messup if you got me pulling you
over, at least in the last 10 or15 years, because I don't pull
people over.
Uh, so that that is one way youdo it.

(01:01:18):
And to what oscar's sayingyou're complying.
But you comply by noting yourprotest.
Lawrence, what do you got man?

Speaker 7 (01:01:29):
that's embarrassing, it's embarrassing, it's
embarrassing for the policedepartment.

Speaker 1 (01:01:34):
That's embarrassing.

Speaker 7 (01:01:36):
And believe it or not .
I didn't have trainees ask meabout that and I had to explain
to them.
They shut their finger.
It means nothing.
It's not against the law.
Let's move forward.
And just like you said too, Ialways told people the reason
for the stop, even when theywere recording me.
I never acknowledged thatbecause I didn't care about
being recorded.
That was like no big deal to me.

(01:01:57):
So I, I, I it's, it's a bear,it's not that's a rough one.
Yeah, there's no reason that.
There's no reason to pullanybody over for a first
amendment.
Protected activity.

Speaker 1 (01:02:11):
Yeah, yeah or words Climate protected activity, yeah
, or words, yeah, and Mr Bill,he makes a great point on this
one and this is one of thosethings I kind of when I first
started doing the podcast stuff.
And you know, just going off ofthis is where us as cops, we
get stuck in a fifth bowl.
Okay, I'll fully admit that,like you do get surrounded by

(01:02:33):
certain things for so long, youjust start to forget what it was
like before you were a cop, andone of the things I tend to
forget and, um, this is thepoint that I that is very
important, especially what he'ssaying here.
He said the side of the road iswhere they will kill you over a
retaliatory stop.
Most of us do not have the moneyto fight in court when the
tyrant stack false charges.
Um, I think that's important.

(01:02:55):
Like I always say, fight incourt, fight in court.
And I I never consider the factthat, like some people can't
take the time off work, somepeople can't, you know, you do
start to take it for granted andI don't think about that all
the time.
And I need to, I need to beconscious of that before I just
so recklessly say go fight incourt, you got it made, you'll

(01:03:16):
win, you'll win.
You got everything in yourfavor, and not everybody has the
means to figure that shit out.

Speaker 7 (01:03:23):
Right.
I think one of the biggestproblems, too, is a lot of
people don't know the rights andthen when they watch social
media they try to exercise thewrong rights you do see that and
when that happens, when theyget pulled over lawfully and
then they exercise those wrongrights, it ends up in court

(01:03:43):
anyways.
So that's why I always say haveyour day in court, not on the
side of the road.
I like it, I understand it isexpensive, or I, I or you don't
want to miss a day.
I understand that completely.
But how many people say I'm not, I'm invoking my Fifth
Amendment when you haven't evenasked him a question yet.

(01:04:04):
So I'm like what?

Speaker 1 (01:04:09):
Sir, I just want to say my name, and that's what I
mean.

Speaker 7 (01:04:13):
You don't want to say my name.
That's what I mean.
You don't want to createsomething if you're not really
understanding your rights.

Speaker 1 (01:04:20):
Go ahead, Oscar.

Speaker 5 (01:04:22):
Well, to me, what happened was that he pulled them
over and I was trying to arrestthem.
He was trying to find a reasonto arrest them.
Yeah, yeah, he was trying tofind a reason to arrest them.
I pulled you over's like, yousee, like he was trying to find
a reason to arrest him.
You know, I'll pull you overbecause he said something.
I can't remember exactly whathe said, but it was basically
saying, uh, about himinstructing.
You know, he was looking for areason to arrest him.

(01:04:44):
Now he can't arrest me, hecan't really arrest him right
now, but he's looking for him togive him a reason to arrest him
yeah, there's some goodcomments out there right now.

Speaker 1 (01:04:52):
Um, I want to get to uh miro I don't even know how to
pronounce this miro, I'm justgoing to call you miro.
Um, the fight it in court thingis the dumbest, most unjust
shit ever.
There were cops pulling overpeople on highways for speeding
that are far away states becauseit's cheaper to pay than to
fight it, and that that's a goodargument.

(01:05:14):
Seeing people pull pullout-of-state plates over, I
remember driving in Michigan.
We would drive, we'd take 75all the way down to Florida.
I had some family in Florida,so that's how we'd go visit.
It was a miserable drive.
I remember my family alwayssaying yeah, we've got to be
careful through the statesbecause they'll pull you over
for having an out-of-state platelike that's in the culture.

(01:05:36):
People know that, so that thatis that's a valid argument.
And then uh king said thejudicial process is the
punishment, and he ain't wrongthere either.
Right, you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:05:52):
Like you still got to take the ride sometimes and
that's some bullshit, so I wantto fire up the the chat a little
bit.
You know, as a new officer, Iremember one of those things
that in those scenarios whereyou couldn't believe somebody
would flip you off as you were acop or somebody would call you
a pig or, and I remember when Iinitially got into law

(01:06:16):
enforcement I didn't have a verygood FTO experience and I
didn't know how to push that offmy back and so I had to learn
as I went that I actuallyappreciated and that was more of
them respecting me.
I felt like when they wouldcall me names or oink at me when
I was coming around and thingslike that.

(01:06:38):
And so when I see videos likethis, it just it.
It makes me think of you know,did their FTO not set them up
enough times to teach them howto let that roll off their back?

Speaker 7 (01:06:54):
May I ask a question?

Speaker 1 (01:06:55):
Yeah, go ahead.
I think we've got to askpermission.

Speaker 7 (01:06:59):
In the academy is where they teach you.
That's where it should be,that's the foundation, Because
when I was in the academy myfirst day, they said people are
not going to like you forwhatever their reasons are.
You're going to get the middlefinger, you're going to get all
kind of names being quality.
They told us that in theacademy and there's where you
need to soak in that, that thatyou know, if you didn't get the

(01:07:20):
training I you know.
I'm sorry to hear that, but youknow well and and so, yeah, so
my agents.

Speaker 3 (01:07:26):
So where I came from in uh, fto, it's not a full-time
or not a full-time academy,it's uh, you pay for the, you go
through the experience andsadly, I think it's more like
here's the exam.
We're going to teach you and getyou ready for the exam and then
when you go to this localagency that's willing to hire

(01:07:47):
you, you have to do some of theexperience things that the
bigger agencies do with insidethe academy.
And so, you know, it wasanother opportunity for me to
have a full time career whileI'm going through the police
academy because just of mycircumstances.

(01:08:10):
But you know there are a lot ofagencies that that's how they
do it and um, so you're notgetting some of the hands-on
experiences I.
You know, I know one of thebigger agencies in our area.
You know, every day one of thefirst things they do is they
walk into a scenario situationit, you know it's not based on

(01:08:34):
um curriculum or things likethat.
You know they kind of whatevercurriculum they're going to work
on today, they they started offwith a scenario based and so
they get some more of thathands-on experience before
they're going through FTO.

Speaker 1 (01:08:47):
Yeah, mr Belford, um, you know, this is, this is part
of the problem that we have toovercome as cops, and that's one
of the problem that we have toovercome as cops and that's one
of the things that we need towork on with this show is you
know, he said that's why I don'ttrust cops.
The culture is all aboutpunishing people with the
process.
Until these cops start payingto feed my children, how can I

(01:09:15):
be made whole as a victim oftyranny?
And that's a powerful statement, because he ain't wrong.
The system in itself is apunishment, because now you've
got to find a babysitter, findsomebody.
You know some of these guys andthis is why I try to get off.
Look at the whole picture.
When you pull someone over,right, you see that they've got
ticket after ticket after ticketafter ticket, every ticket, and

(01:09:37):
they they're trying to tell youI can't get out of this hole,
but I gotta work, I gotta go to,I gotta drive to work, and you
know, and you didn't pull thatperson this is cops, and I'm
trying to challenge you to thinka little deeper.
You didn't pull him over forspeeding.
You pulled him over because hisregistration was out or his
plate was bad.
That's not a, that's not amoving violation.

(01:09:57):
That's a dude that can't getout of the hole.
And you're perpetuating thecircle.
You got to see the biggerpicture and you're going to be
able I'm hoping you're going tobe able to read that when you
talk to him and you're going toknow if they're.
You know, you're gonna have afeeling if they're full of shit
or not.
So go ahead, vinny.

Speaker 4 (01:10:15):
I was just going to say.
I mean, obviously I can onlyspeak about the Lone Star State,
the great state of Texas, anddoing this for for for 21 years
here, frigging, we were able totell our rookies as they came on
.
The traffic stop is probablyone of the only things you're
going to have discretion on.
And I want you to think aboutfamily members.

(01:10:38):
I want you to think abouteverything when you're stopping
somebody, on how, when yourfamily members get stopped,
regardless of their backgrounds,regardless of this, and that it
goes back to that old, whenyou're five years old, your
mother tells you treat people asyou wish to be treated.
And you know respect goes along way, and I think I've had
two traffic complaints in 21years.

(01:11:00):
And there for a while I wasaveraging, I wasn't writing a
lot of tickets.
We were out there looking formajor, major loads of narcotics
heading to the east, but weweren't writing a lot of tickets
.
We'd stop, we'd go through ourlittle process, warning on to
the next, and obviously have aprobable cause for everything.
But that's the.

(01:11:20):
I know most of the other statesare like that as well.
It's not a shall it's officerdiscretion on if you can write a
citation or do a warning,because, just like you were
saying, eric, when you have theprobable cause, you have every
reason to take it back there andyou're making that decision.
Am I going to write thiscitation or not?
And you swipe the driver'slicense and you see, you know,
in the past two years maybe Idon't know hypothetically 10

(01:11:41):
entries for citations andanybody I don't care what your
financial status is you get thattype of that many tickets and
you get points on your licensesin some states and you're not
going to be able to claw back upto the top.
It's like somebody with badcredit problems.
I've been down that road.
I've gone through bankruptcy,you know, trying to climb out of

(01:12:01):
a frigging Canyon.
Sometimes you just got to bethat person to help somebody get
back up to the top and givethem a frigging warning once in
a while.
Just anyway, I'll get off mypedestal myself.

Speaker 1 (01:12:12):
I'll, just anyway, I'll get off my pedestal myself.
You good, I like it, yeah, okay.
So I guess my biggest takeawayfrom this discussion so far is
cops.
Okay, let me let me look rightin the camera.
Cops out there, if you'rewatching this show, be mindful
and understand that you arepotentially perpetuating a

(01:12:34):
situation that cannot be fixedin what you do with your traffic
stops.
And two, the other part that Iwould challenge officers to do
is make sure that your trafficstop and what comes of it isn't
a form of punishment by usingthe system.
I like the way that Mr Belfoldput that.
I didn't think of it in thatway.

(01:12:55):
I've thought of it, but not inthat way.
The way he said that actuallyreally stuck with me.
I'm going to push back on copsDon't use the system as a
punishment.
Try to figure out if that'swhat's happening.
If it is, you're in the wrong.
It's not our job to punish.

(01:13:16):
That is not our job.
You either have it or you don't.
You were either going to do itor you weren't.
If you're doing it off ofemotion or ego, you're in the
wrong automatically.
That's the way I see that.
Tim said tickets, tickets,tickets.
Well, if you've got them, cometo our Discord and Eric will
laugh at you for getting them.

Speaker 7 (01:13:36):
I like Tim.

Speaker 1 (01:13:37):
Tim is on a roll tonight, y'all.
He is always trying to getpeople over to our Discord.
He's like a great mod to haveover there.
He's our tactical sleepingSanta.
So for anybody that needs tofind him, badge 502, lawrence
even because I'm going to getLawrence in on this.
Alan and Banning already know,but on our Discord we have

(01:13:59):
channels set up specifically forour hosts and for people that
have channels.
So you can come to our Discordand maybe one night we have a
Q&A.
Maybe people just postquestions and periodically
throughout the week you cancheck on there and see on your
channel If somebody had aquestion for you.
Maybe they got some questionson your content and they'll post

(01:14:21):
the link.
Hey, I want to know somethingabout this, but we want to offer
that up for you guys.
Um, down the road.
So make sure you guys do that.
Oh bad, you're muted.
Buddy, there you go.
You're unmuted, go ahead.

Speaker 8 (01:14:35):
Come hang out, the water's fine.

Speaker 1 (01:14:39):
Yeah, so MagDump dropped $2.
He said uphold the law, don'tuse the badge to hassle.
Agreed.

Speaker 8 (01:14:48):
I don't hassle anybody.

Speaker 1 (01:14:51):
MagDump member for seven months, by the way, look
at him.
I'm proud of him, one of thebest names that we've got too.
So, all right, let's go toanother video real quick.

Speaker 3 (01:15:02):
Um, we've already done that one, and you know, he
should maybe rename it to theclip dump, for yeah, our brother
that's not here tonight um,okay, we're gonna do tonight.

Speaker 1 (01:15:14):
Okay, we're going to do this video and then we're
going to get to the body camreview things.
Okay, let me Actually I lie.
There's one other video, butI'm going to show this one first
.
And Badge 502, I found out it'syour mic.
That's giving a lot of feedback.

Speaker 8 (01:15:31):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:15:32):
Yeah, there's like Okay, how about?

Speaker 8 (01:15:34):
I do.
Yeah, how about I do this?
How about I take these off andI just use the cell phone itself
?

Speaker 1 (01:15:38):
Okay.

Speaker 8 (01:15:39):
Let me shut my head off.

Speaker 1 (01:15:42):
At least he had pants on.

Speaker 8 (01:15:44):
Oh yeah, oh, we're at it.
Ghost Patch.

Speaker 1 (01:15:48):
Go to ghostpatchcom See what Banning's showing right
there.
You guys can find some Two CopsOne Donut swag at ghostpatchcom
.
Just type in Two Cops, oneDonut.
Oh, there we go.
That's the metal band.

Speaker 8 (01:16:01):
I'll come out and jump on my desktop.

Speaker 1 (01:16:04):
Okay, sounds good.

Speaker 2 (01:16:06):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:16:07):
Let me share.

Speaker 3 (01:16:10):
Hey, what was that challenge coins?
Eric, I saw something youtalked about.

Speaker 1 (01:16:15):
Challenge coins yeah didn't you say we had some
challenge coins?
Oh, we do have challenge coinson Ghost Patch, if you go there.
Absolutely, sir, appreciate youbringing that up.
All right, we're going to bigsize.
There we go and let's watch howthis one unfolds.

Speaker 2 (01:16:35):
Hey, the reason I'm stopping out with you, city of
Ormond states that you can'tpark on an unimproved lot.
Okay, oh, I can't.
You cannot, sir.
No, yeah, we're just sleepingin the car for a couple of days
because I'm moving into my newapartment tonight.

Speaker 6 (01:16:46):
Okay, who's in there with you?

Speaker 2 (01:16:48):
It's myself.
Okay, do you guys have ID withyou?
Yeah, perfect, if I can seethat I'm sick today, so I'm not
at work.
I have a flu.
I was in the hospital yesterday.
Okay, all right, give me asecond, all right.
Yeah, does he?
Have money for gas.
Do you have money for gas?
No, I'm not trying to giveinterviews.
I understand your financialstruggle.

(01:17:08):
All right, drive park on anunimproved lot.

Speaker 1 (01:17:12):
Alright, I'm going to pause it real quick.
There is one issue that I havewith this guy that I hope he can
improve over time.
He he's being awesome, but hedoesn't sound like he's being
awesome.
He is a.
He's talking like a robot.
He's talking like a cop, like arobot cop.
If he could just get a littleinflection in his voice I think

(01:17:34):
he would be perfect.
But he sounds like a robot.
He's like all right, I am notgoing to like I need to educate
you and inform you, and and likeI'm like ah, come on, dude,
like a person, talk to him Likehe's a person, you're talking
like RoboCop, but let's justkeep going, cause I want you
guys to see this.

Speaker 2 (01:17:54):
Okay, it's a $250 fine.
Okay, I'm not going to strikeyou with it.
I don't see any dope oranything.
Been sober for three years.
How bad are you financially?
You don't have money for gas atall.
I don't have nothing at all.
We're going to drive up to theBJ's.
Okay, I have a BJ's membership.
I'm going to put in $20 in yourtank.
okay, that way you guys can getaround and get situated.

(01:18:14):
All right, I had to.
All I ask is that you make gooddecisions with this.
Listen, tough times are toughtimes.
Everybody goes through toughtimes.
Lean on each other and supporteach other.
That's the only way you getthrough it.
That's the only way me and mywife get through it.
We lean on each other.
I came from a very poorbeginning.
There's no shame in that.

(01:18:34):
It's what you do with what youhave that makes a difference.
So be that change.
Be the change on each other andsupport each other.
Okay, that's all I ask you guys.
Have a great day, all right?

Speaker 1 (01:18:43):
god bless you yes, I look like a genie.
Uh, that's not what I was goingfor um yeah, that's a very cool
.
Um, there we go.
Look at the professional studio.
Now I like it.
Let's say something real quickit's not working yet oh yeah, it

(01:19:04):
is there, it is there, we gothere, we go Nice.
So, oscar, I'm going to go withyou first, brother, you see
something like that.
You see police doing that.
What do you think?

Speaker 5 (01:19:14):
It really goes back to what I was talking about at
first.
That's why you can't say allpolice.
You know what I mean when yousay the police.
To me I didn't see anythingwrong.
I agree with you talking thoughthe way he's talking like a
robot, but as far as everythinghe basically it was kind of like

(01:19:36):
a form of mentorship to me, theway he was just trying to make
right decisions, but I thoughtit was all right.
I didn't see anything wrongwith that.

Speaker 1 (01:19:45):
Yeah, yeah, country girl, did I answer your question
, go ahead.

Speaker 5 (01:19:51):
I said did I answer your question.

Speaker 1 (01:19:53):
I thought you said to answer my question.
I thought you were going tokeep going no you're good.
Country girl said good cop, butthe guy didn't ask for a
therapy session Come on CountryGirl.
How are you going to pick atthat one?
That was a good one.
That was a good one.
I mean again, other than theRoboCop talk.
It was very unemotional, eventhough it was an emotional call.

(01:20:17):
It was very unemotional,lawrence.
What do you got, bro?

Speaker 7 (01:20:23):
I agree with the same thing.
You know the the um robottalking, but other than that I
would.
I would have taken care of ittoo.
I would put gas in the car oneof the biggest things too.
I don't like what officers dowhen they say I'm going to
educate you yeah, yeah, I have aproblem with that because
you're not there.
if you tell someone you failedthe step of the stop sign,
you're not going to go throughthe statute.

(01:20:43):
You're just going to say youfailed to stop at a stop sign,
that's it.
You're not going to educate.

Speaker 1 (01:20:48):
Yeah, yeah the whole.
It's a $250.
Fine, but I'm not going to giveit to you Like you're trying to
put yourself, like I just didthis for you.
You're lucky that I did this.

Speaker 8 (01:20:59):
You're so lucky, I don't think anybody else would
have done it.

Speaker 1 (01:21:04):
Yeah, yeah, all of these other cops out here on my
agency, they would have gave youthat $250 fine, but not me,
cause I'm different.
You were in the South end oftown, bro, right, if you'd have
been illegally parking on thisbig open, empty lot, those other
cops would have got you with a$250 fine.
It's stupid.

(01:21:25):
Um, now was the guy probablyout there doing an investigative
stop, because it's not normalfor a car to be parked in that
area.
Yeah, I'm okay with that.
I'm okay with an investigativestop trying to figure out what's
going on.
Um, and I, I could have donewithout all of the here's what I
could have done and more of the.
Okay, tell me what's going on,all right, cool, let me get your

(01:21:47):
info real quick.
Uh, all right, bro, everythingseems to be checking out.
I want to help you like I need.
I'm gonna try to help you outlike I like that.
And then you know, some peopleget upset about the id crack.
Listen, that's just how we dothings.
I I've explained myself amillion times on here.
You guys know that I don'tthink it's wrong to ask about

(01:22:09):
ask for ID.
You had an offense here, so youcan technically demand ID if
you want, you got a trafficoffense.

Speaker 4 (01:22:14):
But just real quick.
Lawrence has got a jet.
Lawrence, how can everybodythat's watching?
Oh, I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
How can everybody that'swatching?

Speaker 7 (01:22:25):
Oh.

Speaker 4 (01:22:25):
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
How can everybody that'swatching this podcast tonight
find you?
I know you got to.
You got to cut out.

Speaker 7 (01:22:33):
Yeah, you could go on my on TikTok and it's.
I got it's Lawrence retired FTO.
I got a ton of videos andthat's actually how I found Matt
Eric Eric.
Oh yeah, so yeah.
Yeah, I got a ton of videos andthat's actually how I found
Matt, eric, all of you.
So yeah, yeah, well, that's howI found Matt too, but yeah, so
just go on my Tik TOK and findme there at Lawrence retired FTO

(01:22:55):
.

Speaker 1 (01:22:56):
So real quick, Lawrence, before you go, this is
your channel, correct?

Speaker 7 (01:23:03):
Yes, that's correct.

Speaker 1 (01:23:04):
Okay, make sure you guys go like, follow, subscribe,
uh, his channel for us.
Um, I am trying, I'll.
I'll just tell you guys rightin front of lawrence, I don't
care, uh, I'm trying to make himmore of a part of what we're
doing because, uh, once you gosee his stuff, you'll you'll
understand he's of the of thesame mindset that we are.
So I really like what he'sdoing and I want him to be a

(01:23:26):
part of what we're doing.
So, alright, lawrence, Iappreciate you, brother, thank
you very much, thank you and hegone.
Okay, you guys like him.
Yeah, he's a good dude.
I've been following him for awhile and actually he does a lot
of live chats on his TikTokwhere he just kind of does ask a

(01:23:49):
cop a question stuff and hedoes really good.
And so I jump on occasionallyand I'm just like, hey, you know
, I'll jump on and ask him aquestion or two and we seem to
get along.
I really like him.
Wade's asking a questionquestion panel.
How many of you have found thebouncing car in the parking lot
before?
Oh, my, oh, my god, a lot.

(01:24:11):
If you knew some of the nastythings I have seen, I mean you
know what?

Speaker 4 (01:24:17):
let me, let me give you a 30 second.
I'm not even going to say thedepartment I was at, because
it's anyway I was.
Uh, I finally got used to anarea where I was at and I heard
that there was a lot of criminalacts that were going on at this
public park and to keep an eyeon it, since it was in my beat
and parked, blacked out, in theparking lot, parked up behind a

(01:24:38):
tree, and there's a littlewalking trail that you can kind
of go around where the lightsdon't hit you.
So you can kind of go aroundwhere the lights don't hit you,
so you can kind of keep an eyeand look out in the park.
And I'm new, I'm learning, andso I'm doing this walk.
I check out with dispatch inany way.
I get over there and I get mybinos up and and and.
Uh, we had, we had a shooting inthat parking lot the week
before.
Let dispatch know I was thereand I got my binos up.

(01:24:59):
I'm looking, there's 10, 15cars out there.
There's some separated bybuildings so they have a little
bit of privacy.
And then I see two with somepeople doing stuff on a hood.
They'll probably not be okay Ifkids were happy.
You have to take time andaccount too.
It's at that time we had acurfew in the state of Texas.
There was mostly just adultsout in that parking lot.

(01:25:20):
So am I going to go check outwith them?
I may beat my siren when Ileave and hopefully they do the
right thing and take off, takeit to a hotel.
But anyway, I hear behind me Ihad no clue that this person was
back there.
Swetland, what are you doinghere?
And it was one of the patrolsupervisors, Keep in mind.
I'm a year and a half on andI'm like holy crap, sergeant,

(01:25:46):
had no clue, you were here.
Uh, do you want my assistantsto go down here?
Are you wanting to do something?
He goes.
Well, if we go down there andinterrupt, they won't be back
next weekend.
He's getting big and I'm likeare you freaking, kidding me?
So I I figured supervisors onscene, I'm out, and he was
trying to make a joke, but justthe way that could be construed
by somebody.
Man, oh, that's bad stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:26:07):
So anyway, yeah, I'm gonna read mr billfolds.
Uh, he's on fire tonight.
By the way, mr billfolds got alot of flame going on today.
That didn't sound right.
That's not what I meant, mrbillfold.
You're you're killing it.
You got really good commentstonight, my bad um.
He said the asking for id absenta crime is a problem.
What does an ID tell an officerabout potential criminal

(01:26:29):
activity?
Cops only ask to run warrants.
It's the LEO version of scratchoff tickets.
He ain't wrong.
He is not wrong.
It's a part of it, for sure.
I agree with him to a point,but I think the caveat for me is
any time that I ask for an IDabsent a crime, I let them know.

(01:26:52):
Hey, you don't have to ID, butcan I get your identification
for X?
And if I'm going to run it, Iwill let them know.
More than likely, though, ifI'm telling them I'm not running
it, I am just simply gettingyour information so I can get it
for the report that I'm aboutto do or for whatever.

(01:27:14):
So I think there's a fair playthere.
What do you think?
Oh, go ahead, oscar.
No, oscar, you go Real quick.

Speaker 5 (01:27:22):
Oh, go ahead, oscar.
No, oscar, you go Real quick.
So let me ask you if any of youask for an ID, like from what
you just said, and they don'tgive you the ID and they refuse
to give you the ID, how is yourresponse after that?

Speaker 1 (01:27:39):
You know what?
I mean my response, and I'lltell you the God's honest truth,
my response.
If I tell you, hey, can I getyour ID?
Just so, I got this informationfor my stuff.
The report I'm going to have todo you are not under
investigation.
You don't have to give it to me.
If they say I don't want to doit, I'll be like you know what I
tell them.
That's your constitutionallyprotected right.

(01:28:00):
I appreciate that.
I honestly tell them.
I appreciate it because I wantthem to know that I'm going
above and beyond to betransparent and accountable for
what I'm asking, I think.

Speaker 5 (01:28:11):
I think a lot of people think that it draws
suspicion when when they don'tdo it.

Speaker 1 (01:28:15):
You know what I mean and I'll fully admit I I'm not.
There's not a lot of cops I'veever seen do what I do right and
I can't make them.
I can't make them um and themasking isn't illegal, but I can
tell you what I do and I can.
More importantly, I can tellyou why I do it.
If there's not a crime, I willask you, but I inform you

(01:28:39):
because I think that is thebiggest um problem we have.
It's no different than gettinga public defender versus a
well-seasoned, paid-for defenderattorney.
A public defender is going todo just enough where your
attorney is going to go aboveand beyond.
I want to be the attorney youpaid for.

(01:29:00):
That's the way I look at it.
So, Tim, we have voting classes.

Speaker 4 (01:29:08):
I feel like we're gonna get a false advertisement
lawsuit you just want to be alittle bit better than stall
goodman yeah, yeah, goodman wasawesome.

Speaker 3 (01:29:19):
you know, I I think you would agree with me, eric
and banning.
You know, in the great state oftex, texas, as we say that you
know so many times the peoplethat we deal with when we're
they want to help, and so it'slike you almost have that
conversation where it's justlike, hey, can I see your ID?
Because they just know thatyou're doing your job and it's

(01:29:43):
not even that big a deal, justknow that you're doing your job
and it's not even that big adeal.
And then people, then you haveto remember that you know, oh
yeah, you don't have to get it,because I'm so used to having
that conversation of we'recollecting information for a rec
or things like that, and it'slike you know, I do have to
check myself and go, oh yeah,yeah, it's not that big a deal

(01:30:04):
if you don't want to give it.
You know and move on to thenext subject matter.

Speaker 1 (01:30:09):
Yeah, tim, or I'm sorry.
Mr Belford said, cops will sayif you did nothing wrong, why
won't you ID?
I tell you what if I hear yousay that shit while I'm on scene
, I'm going to tell you kickrocks, I got it.

Speaker 4 (01:30:21):
Don't be saying that shit to people, that's going to
be a talk later at the stationOnce you clear that call.

Speaker 1 (01:30:28):
Yeah, now you're compelling ID and I don't agree
with that, no more than I agreewith soliciting trespass and
some of that shit, shotguns andtattoo.
I love Alan's donut shirt.
I just want you to know thatRetro Rifle designed that shirt
around the podcast before weever became sponsors.
They actually emailed me andsaid hey, we, we would love for

(01:30:50):
you to wear the shirt.
We kind of, uh, were inspiredby the podcast for it.

Speaker 3 (01:30:54):
We're like I'm on board so the best part about it
is the the sprinkles guys.

Speaker 1 (01:31:02):
They're bullets.
Yeah, there's no guns on thisone.

Speaker 3 (01:31:04):
Just bullets.

Speaker 5 (01:31:07):
Right, that's right, all right.

Speaker 1 (01:31:12):
Okay, I got one more short video, so we'll watch this
one.
This one is gangster as fuck.

Speaker 4 (01:31:20):
Everybody's still good on time.
I don't want to step on anybodyif they've got a jet.

Speaker 5 (01:31:25):
I think everybody's good.
I'll do it in a second, but myphone is going 6%.

Speaker 1 (01:31:30):
Hey bro, you ain't come charged, dang you just like
Matt.
You two peas in a pod Can't getyou straight with technology.

Speaker 5 (01:31:47):
I think my cord got a shortage in it.
I got my cord.
It's going down.
Is it going down slower?

Speaker 1 (01:31:55):
Two Cops.
One Donut is going to make itsfirst official donation to a
nonprofit and we are going toget the two pillars of home away
from home.
We're gonna get them someiphone cords.
We're gonna get them hooked up,we're gonna get them proper.
All right, let me, uh, let mepull this video up real quick,

(01:32:20):
um, and then we'll, I we'll dothis video, oscar, and then I'll
let you say goodbye.
Okay, let me share the screen.
You guys are going to like thisone.

Speaker 8 (01:32:33):
Oh yeah, it's a great video.

Speaker 5 (01:32:37):
No it's good shit.
Oh fuck, Fuck, he shot me.
God damn it.

Speaker 2 (01:32:49):
Officer shot 13-D-04, .
I am shot but I'm up and movinggot it Shots fired, shots fired
, shots fired.
Call UMS, something's wrong.
Hey, tourniquet, tourniquet,tourniquet 13-D-04.
All right, putting thetourniquet on me.

Speaker 5 (01:33:09):
God damn it.

Speaker 2 (01:33:12):
Go get him.
Get behind the car, get behindthe car.

Speaker 5 (01:33:19):
I'm bleeding like a son of a bitch.
Tourniquet man here, Alright,here.

Speaker 2 (01:33:21):
Tie that shit up on me, go here, turn it, get my ass
here All right here, tie thatshit up on me, go high.

Speaker 5 (01:33:28):
First off.

Speaker 1 (01:33:29):
let me say all right, let me get this, let me get
this off of here, gangster.

Speaker 4 (01:33:37):
I've seen this a couple of times.
I'm going to give two centsthat are not going to give out
the video and we'll let otherpeople go, but I've been in some
hairy situations like this andthankful to to to walk away from
it.
But my, my boy, they got hit.
That car charges that weapon,gets back in the fight, delivers
around, communicates, deliversmore rounds, takes out the

(01:34:01):
threat and then assesses that's,that's.
That's good stuff, man.
I wish every officer could havethe heart and the brain to be
able to stay in the fight toprotect the people out there.

Speaker 1 (01:34:12):
You can't tell me your boy didn't serve.
That is to me okay.
This is where I'll tell y'allthat dude was probably a Marine.
I'm just going to put it outthere.
He's probably a Marine.
That's my feeling on that.

Speaker 5 (01:34:30):
Oscar, I want to give you a chance to respond to that
before you've got to go, theonly thing.
Well, I'm going to be honestwith you.
For some reason, that video, Icouldn't really see it that good
because I'm on the phone andit's real small, right, I
couldn't see that one that good.
I'm not going to lie to you.
Okay, could you hear it?
I heard the shooting and Iheard what he was saying, but I
couldn't really see what wasgoing on.
I could barely see the otherone, but I could see it.
I couldn't see that one at all,really, just like I seen your

(01:34:53):
hand and stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (01:34:55):
I didn't really see it, okay, but you could hear
what he was saying and he wasvery calm.
Taking fire yeah, definitely.
So to me that is a rare breed.
There's a lot of us that thinkthat we'll be cool, that we can
hear that shit and until youactually get shot at, get shot

(01:35:20):
and take fire you can say allthe shit you want Until you're
in that position.
That is how you hope you'll act, okay.

Speaker 5 (01:35:29):
I was trying to figure out where I was going
with that one.
I ain't hoping I didn't reallysee it.
I ain't gonna lie Fucking.

Speaker 1 (01:35:37):
Craig Craig.
Go home, You're fired.
How are you going to get firedon your day off, Craig Craig?
How?

Speaker 4 (01:35:44):
did I know you were going to go right for that man,
I can't help it.

Speaker 5 (01:35:48):
It was real being on here with y'all.

Speaker 1 (01:35:49):
Thanks for the invite and, like you said, if you
wanted me to do another one, I'malways open to it All right,
oscar, what we're going to do,we're going to get you set up
proper with the mics and allthat stuff, and we're going to
do a real interview because Ijust want to give people a
little teaser of you and yourbackground, because I think you
are out there doing great things.
Thank you, despite the fuckinghorrible cards that you had to

(01:36:14):
play and between what you andMatt got going on.
Dude, like you know, every timeI talk to Matt about it I start
tearing up because I get somoved by what you guys are doing
and you know I'm a crier, soyou don't know that on here I'm
a baby.
I cry about everything.
But what you two got going on,I support it a hundred percent

(01:36:35):
and I'm hoping, with the dtvstuff, dude, we start making you
guys rock stars and really putout your message in a new way,
not just for you two, becauseyou two deserve it, but for the
kids, because they deserve achance.

Speaker 5 (01:36:49):
Definitely.

Speaker 1 (01:36:51):
Tell people how they can find you real quick.
I'm going to pull it up whileyou do that.

Speaker 5 (01:36:57):
So you can find us basically more so on Facebook or
at HomeAwayFromHome, and thenyou can find us on Instagram at
HomeAwayFromHome, and then youcan find us on Instagram at
HomeAwayFromHome YouthDevelopment and Reentry, and we
have a website HomeAwayFromHomeHomeAwayFromHomeYDRcom.
It's Youth Development andReentry.

(01:37:19):
Ydr is Youth Development andReentrycom and that's our
website.
So those are the ways you canfind us.

Speaker 1 (01:37:26):
Let me make sure that what I've got pulled up right
now is the right thing.
Is that it?

Speaker 5 (01:37:35):
Is that the new website?
It is.
That's the website.

Speaker 1 (01:37:42):
Meet Oscar Parham right there, that's you.
Is that the the website?
Yes, uh, meet oscar parhamright there, that's you new
website.

Speaker 5 (01:37:49):
No, we got two websites.
The other one we had.
We had to get it redone.
So, yeah, that's the.
I'll just make sure you got thenew one, but more so all of our
videos on facebook.
Right there, me and mont weredoing some.
Uh, those two kids were uh,they was friends when they was
little and then they was all ofa sudden they started trying to
kill each other.
So we had to do some kind of uh, what you call it uh, get them

(01:38:13):
back together.
Ah, you know, okay, gotcha.
So, yeah, they grew up friendsand one of them got mad because
of something, and now they'rejust trying to, you know.
So we had to bring them backtogether, just to reconcile them
together.

Speaker 1 (01:38:27):
That's what that was okay, intervention speed okay, I
like it.
I love it.
Yeah, I like man, I love that.
You two I mean I, I look at mycareer banning.
Maybe you could say the sameabout you, alan and I I'm trying
to like think of of the goodthings that I've done.
I've done some good things.
In my head I'm like I helpedthis person, I helped that

(01:38:51):
person.
You motherfuckers are outkilling it.
I mean, if I were to try tocompare what I've done in my
career, you two have donesomething that I could never
fathom.

Speaker 5 (01:39:01):
I would never even have thought of what y'all are
doing and it's so impressive oneof the things I wanted to do
when we went team that wouldmake was I wanted to kind of cuz
he.
Let me tell you a quick storyabout when I was like up it's
funny that my phone went up 1%.
It's been going down but one ofthe things they got used to be

(01:39:24):
anti-police right.
We all were when we were young.

Speaker 1 (01:39:29):
I still kind of am.

Speaker 5 (01:39:33):
But when I was locked up right, because in prison you
look at COs as police, right,right, but I had a CO
correctional officer who was mybest friend, you know.
But I have a CEO correctionalofficer who is my best friend.
You know what I mean I'mtalking about.
It was a time when my moneycame late and he made sure I had
food every day until I got tomy.

(01:39:55):
We was able to get back to thestore.
I got, I got my money the sameday that they went to the store
and I couldn't go to the store,so he would always bring me food
from the officer's kitchen.
You know I'm saying so.
I realize.
I realized.
You know we, we became bestfriends.
A guy named shaggy.
He's my buddy, you know.
I've been looking for him sinceI've been out because that I
told him you haven't found himyet no, but the thing is is that

(01:40:20):
, like I say, it's that that youknow.
So understand that there aresome good cops, there's some
good people and you're going tohave some bad ones, but
everybody not.
I'm not going to judgeeverybody based on the actions
of the few you know.
The bad ones you know, sothat's where I, kind of you know
, fall in at.

Speaker 1 (01:40:39):
Gotcha.
Yeah, well, when we connectlater I'm going to get more info
on that and I'll see if I can'thelp find your dude.

Speaker 5 (01:40:48):
Okay, definitely, and you just so you know, he's a
probation officer now he's a.
He's a probation officer inChicago, I think somewhere.
But yeah, like I say, thank youfor having me on, thank you all
for you know it was a pleasure.
Really enjoyed doing the show.

Speaker 1 (01:41:09):
Thank you very much.

Speaker 5 (01:41:10):
My story is book worthy.

Speaker 1 (01:41:12):
Now just so you know.

Speaker 5 (01:41:13):
I'm going to let you know that when you do get me on
here, my story is book worthy.
It's a lot that I just you know.
I gave you a tidbit.

Speaker 1 (01:41:20):
All right, do me a favor, don't tell me, don't tell
me, don't tell me all the juicydetails when we have you on.
I want you to get that book.
So I want you to hold somestuff back and I'm going to help
you get that book, okay.
That's what I'm going to dohelp you get that book, All
right.

Speaker 5 (01:41:37):
All right, brother, Okay take it.

Speaker 1 (01:41:45):
All right, he was great.
Oscar was great man.

Speaker 4 (01:41:48):
I can't wait, hopefully, I mean man.
I hope maybe I can be a fly onthe wall during that interview,
because you truly only readbooks or see different
investigative shows about thesmall percentage of that happens
to people and how dare a stateallow that to happen?
I don't know all his detailsyet.
Right, good grief, 30 friggingyears, is that what he said?

Speaker 1 (01:42:12):
Yeah, 30 years.
Yep, yep, and I am trying tobadge 502 sent us a video, so
I'm trying to what, what?

Speaker 8 (01:42:22):
an experience I'm trying to.
What an experience.

Speaker 1 (01:42:25):
I'm trying to pull that up.
Wherever it went, there it isNow.

Speaker 8 (01:42:30):
Anytime I go on social media and I hear that
nothing beats a Jet 2 Holiday,I'm like, oh God, this is
terrible.

Speaker 1 (01:42:39):
All right, I'm going to pull this video up here.
Badge 502 sent in.
It looks like they stoppedcomments.

Speaker 8 (01:42:45):
I had commented.
Pull this video up here.
Badge 502 sent in.
It looks like they stoppedcomments.
I had commented on this video.

Speaker 1 (01:42:50):
Okay, can you guys see this?
There's no way to biggie sizeit.
I apologize, it is what it isAll right let's go.

Speaker 6 (01:42:59):
Nothing beats a jet to holiday and right now you can
save 50 pounds per person.

Speaker 1 (01:43:06):
Oh no, down goes fraser.

Speaker 2 (01:43:13):
There's three of them 22 kilograms.

Speaker 3 (01:43:16):
There's three of them one's got a gun, so that's a
cop.

Speaker 7 (01:43:22):
But now with jet two holidays, but now with Jet 2
Holidays, package holidays.
The song.

Speaker 8 (01:43:28):
Anytime I hear that song now, I'm like, oh god,
what's about to happen?

Speaker 1 (01:43:32):
Right, yeah, it's never anything good.
Well, at least they finish upStrong.

Speaker 8 (01:43:38):
You know there's probably a market for this.

Speaker 4 (01:43:40):
I wonder if they invented a chair for stairs that
you could just Get people outof houses a little bit easier
they actually have that well,some moving companies have this
uh friggin deal that gets yourwasher and dryer and it's
mechanical and they hit thebutton when they get to
apartment stairs and it frigginjust walks the beast right up

(01:44:03):
right, oh my god I'm like I'mwatching this.

Speaker 8 (01:44:05):
I'm like there's about 4 000 different ways you
could have got that patient outof that house and you chose the
way that smashed their face intothe concrete.

Speaker 1 (01:44:14):
Right, let's do that oh my god, I am so angry right
now with restream.
It is just keeps fucking up.
Everything tonight withrestream has been fucking up, oh
my god.
Anyway, all right, um craig,clearly they moved on to discord

(01:44:35):
.
In case you didn't hear oh man,that's so funny.
Uh, watch the music.
He's trying to warn us.
Yeah, we might get jammed upfor the music playing on
copyright.

Speaker 4 (01:44:51):
Hey man, grab that little teaser.
You put out 300-pound man.

Speaker 1 (01:44:55):
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, we could do that one too.

Speaker 4 (01:44:59):
Let me see I apologize for the size of my mug
in this.

Speaker 1 (01:45:05):
Let me see here, let me share screen Boom, biggie
size.
All right, let's go.

Speaker 6 (01:45:17):
Hear about the 300-pound guy that disappeared.
Well, now that we've put it thatway, so you know, my friends at
the FBI and I was veryfortunate, Like I was assigned
to the FBI for eight and a halfyears working on JTTF, but
before that when I was workingorganized crime.
You know the running joke islike we had a case on a guy in
Bonanno Capo in again MonmouthCounty, new Jersey, frankie

(01:45:38):
Coppa.
Right, I'll tell a little bitabout the case.
But, like you know, the thingabout the case is like, as we're
getting ready to take it down,like Frankie Coppa just
disappears, right, he's nowhereto be found.
Like we've got all of hisphones like tapped and then all
of a sudden, like nobody canfind Frankie, nobody's heard
from Frankie, nobody has seenFrankie, nobody knows where

(01:45:59):
Frankie is.
And then, lo and behold, wefind that frankie is now in
witness protection.
So the running joke there wasonly the feds could make a 300
pound man disappear I wasthinking he was swimming with
the fishes, but he made it.

Speaker 1 (01:46:15):
He lived good for him love it.
So that is a teaser for y'all.
Um, that was the first timebanning, and I have done an
in-studio podcast together.
That was a little teaser withLenny.
That's me who was a retired NewJersey State Trooper and then
went over to Albuquerque andactually worked at Albuquerque

(01:46:36):
PD for a little bit and thenwent private sector, so with
Peregrine, which happens to beone of our sponsors.
But Lenny is a great dude, Um,very good personality.
So fucking Tim is on firetonight.
What is going on in the commentsection tonight?
Y'all are killing it.
I love it.
Um, all right, let's get.
We're, uh, almost two hours in.

(01:46:58):
We haven't even gotten to whatwe normally do.
Uh, so I'm going to go aheadand share screen.
We're going to give a shout outto Ryan Mays thing up there.
Are you guys on Discord now?
I love the sarcasm, sir.
Oh, that's the wrong one.

(01:47:19):
Dang it.
I tried to click on it while Iwas laughing.
It didn't work.
Are you guys on Discord now?
Okay, first and foremost, shoutout to Police Activity.
At Police Activity on YouTube,we get all of our videos for
these body cam reviews, it seemslike, from them, and they're

(01:47:40):
awesome.
So make sure you like andsubscribe.
But before we watch this videofrom Police Activity, I just
remembered there is an insanevideo that was shared with me
today from X, which is formerlyknown as Twitter, so we're going
to share this screen instead.
I am going to try to biggiesize this and when it plays, I

(01:48:03):
don't know how this is going towork out.
This is a little longer and Ihave seen this one, so I'm going
to let you guys judge this.

Speaker 2 (01:48:13):
I want you to turn your body came off Protocol.
Is that you?

Speaker 6 (01:48:16):
turn it off as a citizen request.
It's a turn it off.

Speaker 3 (01:48:20):
So, they want you guys to leave.
Yes, let's just leave, let'sjust make it easy.

Speaker 6 (01:48:24):
Okay, so they want you guys to leave, let's just
leave.

Speaker 2 (01:48:26):
Let's just make it easy, okay.

Speaker 6 (01:48:26):
We're going to make it easy.

Speaker 8 (01:48:30):
That's not the point We'll talk over here.

Speaker 2 (01:48:32):
Okay, Can we all talk Can?

Speaker 6 (01:48:34):
we all talk for a second.
We'll talk over here.

Speaker 8 (01:48:36):
They want you to leave.

Speaker 2 (01:48:37):
Can we talk?

Speaker 6 (01:48:40):
Who is she?

Speaker 2 (01:48:43):
to you.

Speaker 6 (01:48:44):
What's that?
Who is she to?

Speaker 3 (01:48:45):
you she is our college friend.
Nothing happened, okay.

Speaker 6 (01:48:49):
She's a friend.
Yes, no, I'm not.
You guys just want him out.
Do you want him trespassed?
Anything we can do?
Yeah, trespass.
Yeah, I just need him out.
Trespass, get him out.
Yeah, please.
No, I'm not.

Speaker 2 (01:49:04):
No, I'm not, do we?

Speaker 6 (01:49:06):
want to chat.
I know that your protocol is,so you're trespassing, so we've
got to leave now.

Speaker 2 (01:49:12):
We're not trespassing .
You haven't notified us thatwe're trespassing.

Speaker 5 (01:49:14):
You're not trespassing, I don't want to
arrest you guys.

Speaker 2 (01:49:19):
You're not going to arrest us.

Speaker 3 (01:49:20):
So let's leave.
We've got to go.

Speaker 2 (01:49:22):
Your protocol is your protocol, is the protocol is If
we ask you to do, the body camoAll right, I'm going to pause
it right there for now.

Speaker 1 (01:49:31):
All right, emt badge 502.
I'm going to go to you first,bud, because this isn't your
realm, necessarily.
So what are you seeing fromthese two females and what is
your take on it as a personoutside of law enforcement?

Speaker 8 (01:49:48):
So you have two intoxicated female parties who
are apparent.
It looked like someone.
Something in the clip said thatshe worked with the attorney's
office, or something like that.

Speaker 1 (01:49:59):
Possibly.

Speaker 8 (01:50:00):
Possibly so.
She appears that she thinks sheknows the protocol for for the
police department.
If there's anything that I'veseen in my history is that the
executive branch and thelegislative branch do not know
how each other wash their hands.
Uh, so that's inaccurate.
Uh, although it did sound likethat officer solicited a
trespass.
Uh, so I don't know how I feelabout that don't tell me about

(01:50:22):
my life.
Listen, I am in, am in lawenforcement, just like you are,
so I didn't love that.
I know they're supposed torequest a trespass.
They're not supposed to be like, but you want them trespassed,
right.
But you do have parties thatare being requested to slide
away from the building just tohave a conversation, requested

(01:50:46):
to slide away from the buildingjust to have a conversation.
Um, far as I know, there's noprotocol about shutting off body
camera.
That's seems no erroneous.
You know that doesn't soundaccurate.
Um, so you basically have twobelligerent parties outside of
an establishment that don't wantto be removed from an
establishment, that are going tobe removed from an
establishment okay, I like itall.

Speaker 1 (01:51:02):
Right, uh, banning.

Speaker 4 (01:51:03):
I'm gonna let you go next, sir in reference to some
of those questions in thecomments.
You know, when we first got ourbody cameras, when I was at a
medium to large agency, itactually did come out in our in
our memo before uh uh, rule orgeneral order was if you came to
somebody's private home andyou're there, either they called

(01:51:23):
you, you come there oninvestigation.
If they asked you to turn itoff before entering the private
home, you had to, which scaredthe crap out of me.
I still had my audio on to mydash cam, knowing that I
operated with that for years andwas okay.
But I, I liked the body camera.
I, I just I love having it onthere.
Just another perspective.
It's another set of ears,another set of eyes, um, to

(01:51:50):
prove what you're doing outthere.
Um, and then it obviously Ithink it was in effect for about
three to three and a halfmonths, and then it came out If
you're there, if you have alegal reason to be there period,
if you're there in public andyou're dealing with somebody,
that body cameras can be on ahundred percent.
And we had a rule in there tooYou're not muting it, you're not
turning it off intermittently,it's it's it's running for the
duration of the call.

Speaker 1 (01:52:09):
Yeah, yeah, agreed, alan.

Speaker 3 (01:52:14):
I was lost in the focus of being a blonde at the
moment.
No, um, like we didn't even,I'll be real honest, we didn't
even have a policy for the firstfour years of me carrying the
body camera and, uh, like youknow, once I you know it was
just treated the same way as ourin-car camera.

(01:52:36):
As soon as, uh, you know,showing up to the scene, I
turned it on and turned it offwhen I left.
So so you know, most like ours,we uh didn't ever turn the
little red light on or theyellow light on, so you pretty
much couldn't tell ours were on,uh, unless you felt it vibrate.
And so, um, it was, you know itjust became a common knowledge

(01:53:01):
that I ever, once in a while,felt it vibrating, so I knew it
was still working.
I didn't even operate to thebody camera.
I you know, it was just part ofmy uniform.

Speaker 1 (01:53:10):
Yeah, I can tell you right now that I've never heard
of any policy that allows me toturn my body camera off at the
request of some civilian citizen.
Even if I know you're theprosecutor or a judge or
whatever, nothing that I've everheard of will let me turn my

(01:53:35):
body camera off while I'mactively investigating a call.
So the fact that they're tryingto get him to turn his body
camera off tells me they knowthat they're in the wrong and
they're trying to hide that.
So you guys have heard me saylisten, I'm all about
accountability and transparencywith cops, but I think you all

(01:53:57):
need to push a little harder, alittle farther.
I think you need to push thattowards courts.
I think you need to push thattowards corrections, because you
guys got the cops covered.
It's getting better and better.
I always think police isimproving, although we do see
setbacks.
Don't get me wrong.
I'm an optimistic person.
I do see a lot of great things.
I think policing, if you'relooking at it like you're

(01:54:19):
looking at the stocks, it's gotits dips, but it it's
continuously going up.

Speaker 4 (01:54:25):
So we're getting better yes, we want to slap the
shit out of the ones that createthe dips.
We're right there with you.
Yeah, the ones that are doinggood high five friggin, then
treat them the way they.
They should be treated as a asa base officer.
But the ones that are causingthe dip in that stock market,
like there's eric just said I'mgoing to build a bar, yeah,

(01:54:45):
we're going to have VIP parkingand we're going to have I the
night said not saying you didthis, but it's only great if
it's not messed with.

Speaker 1 (01:54:53):
Officers shouldn't be permitted to mute or turn their
cams off until after they'reseparated from the call Agreed.

Speaker 8 (01:55:01):
A hundred percent agreed.
It's as much for officeraccountability as it is officer
safety.

Speaker 1 (01:55:07):
I think that's one of the things I used to think.
There were times when camerasshould be muted, like if my wife
calls in or whatever.
And then I started to thinkabout some of the arguments that
our followers have mentioned.
Our members have mentioned isthat's what the redaction team's
for, and I'm like you know what.
You're right.

(01:55:27):
That's what they get paid to do.
So why mute it?
Period, if it's going out, itneeds to be filtered and they
need to figure out what needs tobe allowed and what doesn't.
That's not my job.
My job as the cop is to makesure I get everything while I'm
out there.
So if you're a policedepartment that's out there and
you've got a policy that allowsyour guys to mute it, I say you

(01:55:51):
get rid of that.
Get rid of that.
Even if it's a tactical team,like we go to tactics or SWAT
guys and all that stuff and theytalk about that then fucking
redact it, mute it afterwards.
It's not that hard.
That's what it's for.
I'm with you guys on that one.
Andy Fletcher's with me.
Yay, eric, I feel like Andyjust got his pom-poms out.

(01:56:14):
You bootlicker.
Andy's a bootlicker.
Andy.
You bootlicking son of a bitch.
How dare you agree with me.
I got him, I got him.
I got him Burn.
All right, sick burn, sick burn.
Yeah, let's keep going.
I don't like that.
It keeps putting badge 502 atthe bottom.

(01:56:35):
I feel bad for you.
I'm not even doing that here,here, hold on.

Speaker 8 (01:56:41):
Oh, oh, there you go.
Now I get to be on top of eric.

Speaker 2 (01:56:43):
there you go that makes erica switch okay, no, no,
I understand you don't want todeal with it but the protocol is
and your protocol is.

Speaker 3 (01:56:56):
If I ask you to turn off the body cam, you have to
turn it off that's not aprotocol, ever anywhere.

Speaker 1 (01:57:02):
That's a want to call .
Sorry, that's a want to call.
Yeah, that's a want to call.
That's not a protocol.
That's a T-shirt idea rightthere.
Want to call?
All right, keep going.

Speaker 2 (01:57:10):
That's your protocol.
She's a lord.

Speaker 1 (01:57:13):
By the way, does anybody else get the movie White
Girls?
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:57:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:57:21):
Oh, my God.
I think they're used to notbeing told no, very often trying
to push their chest that's allI see coming right now.

Speaker 1 (01:57:33):
You want to talk about mothers?

Speaker 4 (01:57:38):
I applaud if you don't get your voice.
I always struggle with that manyeah, I'm sure you do Banning.

Speaker 1 (01:57:46):
I'm sorry, you're all man.
I've got very high femininetendencies.

Speaker 4 (01:57:51):
That's a qualification for the Air Force
to get in.
I'm not a white girl.

Speaker 1 (01:57:55):
My bad White chicks.
That's what I was thinking of,oh shit.

Speaker 6 (01:58:00):
So she knows.
Well that's lawyer stuff, sothat's not true.
So we got to go.

Speaker 2 (01:58:04):
No, it is that's law.
I'm an AG.

Speaker 3 (01:58:07):
I'm an AG.
Good for you.
I don't give a shit, let's go.

Speaker 8 (01:58:10):
Beautiful response.
That's the best response ever.

Speaker 1 (01:58:15):
Okay, listen For those that are watching this.
She just name dropped herposition.
Now you're trying to use yourtitle to get you through
something legally.

Speaker 4 (01:58:29):
Fuck you, you need to be fired?
Yep, right now, right, and youneed to ride tonight to
understand the insides you know.
Be better at your freaking job.

Speaker 1 (01:58:36):
Yep, she needs to be fired absolutely.
You just tried to use yourposition, which I don't.
Is the AG like a politicalposition?
I don't know.
Ag is probably appointed, right, yeah, appointed, or something
like that.
Like, no, you're done, I don'tcare that you can't handle your
booze, that that you beingpublicly intoxicated is one

(01:58:58):
thing, I it's a ticket, I don'tcare.
But you trying to use yourposition, you just screwed up,
fired right away, even evenoutdoors, is like boom make me
want to look at some of hercases and realize.

Speaker 4 (01:59:16):
If she truly is one, how is she, uh, how is she
presenting these?

Speaker 1 (01:59:20):
yeah, and I'm with acorn on this one.

Speaker 8 (01:59:22):
He's like that was great, I'm an ag I don't give a
fuck, that's exactly how itshould be yeah, the amount of I
could not care less that cameout of that man's voice, yeah oh
, jesus, I can't read this one.

Speaker 1 (01:59:39):
You are inappropriate , sir, but that's funny, so
anyway.
Yeah, let's keep going so partof the argument was made like
are they on a public sidewalk?
I would argue no, because wegot tables out here so it seems

(02:00:03):
like we're on this restaurantclub's property um that's
probably paid for space thereyeah, some sort of paid for
space, exactly like you'resaying banning.
You got anything on that?

Speaker 4 (02:00:14):
nope, I I think we're still good for public.
I mean, the public has directaccess.
Look where the police carsparked at.
It's obviously a drivable alley.
Yeah, public's got directaccess.
I mean.
So if this keeps going on andon, they're they're doing their
best not to take enforcementaction.
They probably have severalcalls holding in that area yeah,

(02:00:35):
yeah, and I love that.

Speaker 1 (02:00:36):
He just looked over at the husband and goes can you
get your children?
Listen?
I'm all for being professional,but as soon as you start
dropping that, you're an ag.
Yep, my professionalism is gone.
You've lost it.
I'm giving you the full.
The full, I like this tactic.

(02:01:10):
He's trying to wake them up.
I think what he's really tryingto do is sober them up.
He's saying I'm done, you'rebeing detained, and I think he's
got plenty enough to detainthem.
You've clearly got publicintoxication.
So I think he's trying to takea moment to sober them up and
say to this guy, the, thehusband over there, you gotta

(02:01:30):
get him out of here.
Like I'm not trying to arresthim, but you, you're not
listening and I gotta dosomething extreme to wake you up
you are not immune.

Speaker 4 (02:01:41):
You're about to go for a ride.
Wake the hell up or it's it'sgo time yes, exactly, uh.

Speaker 1 (02:01:46):
Wade lucero said trespass, obstruction, assault
on an officer and resisting whatelse?
Um, and mr billfold said that'sa public easement.
Um, yeah, and that's where itkind of gets tricky.
This is where I kind of likeI'm like all right, you're
trying to trespass somebody, butis that a public area or is

(02:02:07):
that the restaurant's area?
If the restaurant is like kindof, what badge 502 was saying is
is if that's an area thatthey're paying for, because
that's possible.
I see that in Miami all thetime.

Speaker 4 (02:02:20):
Chairs and the tables out there.

Speaker 8 (02:02:21):
More than likely that easement stretches to the curb
line Right If they have thechairs and the tables out there,
more than likely that easementstretches to the curb line Right
when you have the cafes withthe tables and everything part
of their property is that area.

Speaker 1 (02:02:30):
Yes, so in that, when that's the case, and it's
probably one of those thingsthat they only have it at night,
it's probably like a nighttimething.

Speaker 8 (02:02:38):
From this time to this time, it's your area, kind
of like when you have, forinstance, over here I don't know
how it is out by you guys, butwe have a lot of hot dog trucks
out here.
It's public roadway, but assoon as that hot dog truck's
there, that's now their property, that's their property.

Speaker 1 (02:02:53):
Oh, okay.

Speaker 8 (02:02:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:02:54):
Yeah, exactly Just hook her up and she can tell the
CO how many phone calls she'sentitled to Take a ride, Blondie
.

Speaker 1 (02:03:03):
Mr Biltmore is on it tonight.
I love it.

Speaker 5 (02:03:06):
I'm an AG.
I'm an AG.

Speaker 1 (02:03:09):
Everybody's an AG.

Speaker 5 (02:03:12):
What's wrong with you ?

Speaker 3 (02:03:13):
What are you talking about?
You're being great.
If she just said that, can youspell that?

Speaker 1 (02:03:20):
Can you spell AG for me?
Can you repeat that backwards?
What?

Speaker 3 (02:03:24):
does that mean?
Can you repeat that backwards?

Speaker 1 (02:03:27):
I'd have been like yeah, I'm an AG too.
All guns, baby, all guns.
Can you relax, sir?

Speaker 8 (02:03:39):
she's not doing anything wrong, ag, I'm an AG.

Speaker 2 (02:03:42):
She's an AG, you're not.

Speaker 6 (02:03:47):
Let's go.
I'm not being arrested.

Speaker 8 (02:03:47):
You're putting me in cuffs.
I'm not AG.
She's an AG.
She's an AG.
I'm not being arrested.
You're putting me in cuffs.

Speaker 6 (02:03:49):
Do you have any weapons on you?

Speaker 8 (02:03:51):
No.

Speaker 6 (02:03:51):
I'm an AG.

Speaker 3 (02:03:52):
You're literally an AG.

Speaker 5 (02:03:54):
Let me tell you something.

Speaker 8 (02:03:57):
Linda, Linda, Linda.

Speaker 4 (02:04:04):
Booking in one, possibly two Karens at the end
of this.

Speaker 1 (02:04:08):
So just because you're put in cuffs does not
mean you're arrested.
I understand the implication.
I understand how some peoplecan know that If you're an AG,
you know that that's not thecase.
You know that you can bedetained in handcuffs.
Now I would argue on behalf ofthe general public that if they

(02:04:29):
get put in cuffs, it'sreasonable for them to think
they're being arrested.
But you're an AG, as you'vetold us a million times.
You should know better that.
He told you you're not underarrest, you're being detained.
And you keep arguing.
You put me in handcuffs, I'munder arrest.
So it doesn't work that way.

Speaker 3 (02:04:48):
What are you doing Seriously?

Speaker 2 (02:04:50):
You're arresting me, EG.
Are you under arrest right now?

Speaker 3 (02:04:54):
No, you're putting me in handcuffs and you're
marandizing me.
You're not marandizing me.

Speaker 7 (02:05:00):
I'm not questioning you, oh my god.

Speaker 1 (02:05:02):
Okay, badge 502 said it 502, that is incredible that
you know that, and you're noteven a cop, so explain.
I'm a First Amendment auditor.

Speaker 8 (02:05:17):
So, Miranda is for when you're going to be
questioned.
I'm not questioning you, I'mkicking you off a three-foot
sidewalk.
Kick rocks, lady.

Speaker 1 (02:05:24):
Correct.
All right.
Now for those wondering whatwe're talking about with Miranda
the way that Miranda works andwe see this all the time on the
New York police shows as soon asthey start putting cuffs on him
, like, you've got the right toremain silent.
Anything you say can and willbe used against you.
In a court of law, you have theright to an attorney
Da-da-da-da-da.
And they keep going down thatline.
That's not how it works in reallife.

(02:05:45):
That's not how it works.
You only get the Miranda red toyou if they're going to
question you once you're undercustodial arrest.
A regular street cop is notgoing to question you.
He's got enough.
He doesn't need any more.
He arrested.

(02:06:06):
He doesn't need any more.
He arrested you, so now you'regoing to jail.
He doesn't give a shit aboutanything else.
He got what he needed, so hedoesn't need to question you.
And it's the same for these tvshows that you see, like blue
bloods and and law and order andall these things.
When you see him get arrested,they start reading the miranda
rights.
The only way that they're goingto start reading you the
miranda rights is if theycontinue to question you about a
crime after the fact of arrest.

(02:06:26):
That is what they're talkingabout.
So in this it's a simple PI.
Nobody gives a shit.
They're not questioning youabout anything or trespass.
I told you to leave.
You refused to leave.
Now you're going to jail fortrespass Criminal trespass.
There's no questioning.
So you don't need to readMiranda.
So I can't for the life of mefigure out banning.

(02:06:47):
Why the fuck she's like youdidn't read me, my Miranda
rights.

Speaker 4 (02:06:50):
I'm questioning if she's a secretary within the
building.

Speaker 1 (02:06:54):
Yeah, I don't feel like she's an actual AG.

Speaker 4 (02:06:57):
And then she probably tells the AG you want me to say
I'm an AG and he's like I'mjust kidding me to say I'm an AG
and he's like I'm just kidding,Can I pull this card?

Speaker 8 (02:07:05):
He'll get me out, he'll get me out.

Speaker 1 (02:07:09):
That's going to help.

Speaker 3 (02:07:12):
Her husband is the AG .

Speaker 4 (02:07:14):
Oh, that would be bad .
Just tell him you're an AG.
He'll never know.

Speaker 1 (02:07:18):
You know what?
There's a lot of Marine andArmy lieutenants that, like the
lieutenants''s wives, that liketo pull that card at the gate

(02:07:42):
what do we call that?
You're gonna regret it.
What is that?

Speaker 4 (02:07:47):
right, yeah, retaliatory, but retaliatory,
yeah, and she's definitely not areasonable and prudent person
by any stretch of theimagination you just said you're
the ag, so you threw that cardout there.

Speaker 8 (02:07:58):
Now you're threatening retaliation so big
smile on her face too.

Speaker 1 (02:08:04):
Yeah, she's super happy.

Speaker 2 (02:08:07):
Wow, I'm in, I'm in, I'm in.

Speaker 8 (02:08:15):
Get your hands off.
Me Get your hands off me, wewill get the license.

Speaker 6 (02:08:19):
No, no, no, get out of here.

Speaker 1 (02:08:27):
Get back Get back right now.

Speaker 2 (02:08:28):
Get the data team.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,no, no, no, no no no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no no no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
I'm right here.
I'm right here, it's okay, I'mright here, no, no.

Speaker 5 (02:08:46):
I'm right here.

Speaker 3 (02:08:47):
He's right there, I'm right here, come on babe, no,
no.

Speaker 1 (02:08:54):
Easy, easy boy Babe babe, All right.

Speaker 4 (02:08:57):
Babe, I'm right here, no babe babe, please, I'm here.

Speaker 2 (02:09:00):
I'm right here, please, I'm here.

Speaker 7 (02:09:01):
Please, I'm here no.

Speaker 5 (02:09:03):
Please, I'm scared.
I'm right here, please, I'mserious.

Speaker 7 (02:09:04):
Please, I'm serious.
No, I'm not going to find those.
I'm asking, I'm right here.

Speaker 8 (02:09:09):
No, okay, no, please.
I'll do this twice, brian.

Speaker 2 (02:09:11):
I'm right here.
No, no, no Babe.

Speaker 7 (02:09:12):
Babe, I'm right here, babe, I'm right here.

Speaker 1 (02:09:22):
No, babe, relax.
What's wrong with you?
Yeah, that's resisting.
For sure.
There's a charge for resistingdetention or arrest.
So you know what else you'llregret Not going to CODs.
I love that you guys have madethis into a thing, it is a thing

(02:09:48):
.
But my friends in AG center ohmy God.
Ag is an already going to jail.
That's what the AG stands for.
So, use a.
Use a Kimora.
You spelled Kimora wrong, butthat that's okay.

(02:10:09):
I understood what you meant.
Um, yeah, why are we?
I'm telling you, girls that areunder 100 pounds are some of
the worst to try to.
It is one of the hardest fightsof your life because you're
you're in a weird position if Ido too much and keeping them in
cuffs like, yeah, if I do toomuch, I'm going to break them.
Yeah, if I do too much I'm goingto break them, but they're

(02:10:31):
wiring, they get around a lot ofthings and they can hurt you
like a cat.
Better with the boulder wrap.
The boulder wrap, oh my God,one of the most gimmicky fucking
tools out there.

Speaker 4 (02:10:43):
They need to tell that dude to go home and get his
frigging pants back.

Speaker 8 (02:10:47):
Yes.

Speaker 4 (02:10:48):
I'm sorry man, I don't think he will.
If he's not going to doanything.
Paya, go somewhere else andfind somebody else.
You know, Say Paya.

Speaker 3 (02:10:57):
Maybe that's what he was hoping for, man.

Speaker 4 (02:11:01):
They may have been wearing him out like she's been
wearing that cop's up.

Speaker 1 (02:11:06):
Marine bloods.
Do you have more videos of ag'sbeing arrested?
Join the discards discord soyou can share them.
Oh, let's keep going we don'twant to put you in handcuffs.
Let's go, let's go.

Speaker 8 (02:11:18):
No, we don't want you did you're making, you're
overreacting, you're adding toit, you're overreacting.

Speaker 6 (02:11:26):
No.

Speaker 1 (02:11:27):
My 10th and 18th.

Speaker 6 (02:11:29):
Please take my hands off.
Please take my hands off, no.

Speaker 7 (02:11:33):
Please take my hands off.

Speaker 3 (02:11:34):
You're overreacting.
You didn't have to have thishappen.

Speaker 5 (02:11:38):
Get in the car, no, no.

Speaker 6 (02:11:39):
No.

Speaker 5 (02:11:41):
Babe, no, you got two to take.
No, no, no, no, babe, no, no,no.

Speaker 8 (02:11:52):
Get back.
Get back.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, nono.

Speaker 2 (02:12:03):
Get your feet in the car.

Speaker 4 (02:12:04):
Go on the other side Come on.

Speaker 7 (02:12:07):
I'm right here.

Speaker 1 (02:12:09):
I'm right here watching you get your ass
fucking arrested.
If it's me, I'm going to theother side of the car and I'm
going to pull her across so shedoesn't kick.

Speaker 4 (02:12:19):
And that dude's winking at other blonde chicks
and lying going in the club.
He's like I'll be around in asecond.

Speaker 1 (02:12:26):
He's like I'll be around in a second.
He's like finally, I got myfirst night of freedom.

Speaker 8 (02:12:32):
It's normal when we left the house.

Speaker 1 (02:12:35):
Listen, right now I don't have anything other than
the possibility that we'retrying to trespass from a public
sidewalk.
That's the only littleimplement on this that I would
give against the officers, butother than that, I'm I'm a
hundred percent on their side.
I'm 99% on their side.

Speaker 4 (02:12:56):
I'm thinking you're probably going to see a frigging
PI on that as well.

Speaker 1 (02:13:01):
Right, yeah, public in talks, for sure, for sure.
Which is that's an arrest allday.
I'm just curious if they'regoing to try to arrest her for
trespass and if that is not anactual thing, in that position.

Speaker 4 (02:13:13):
Depends on the state.
What is that?
Newport News, virginia?
All I saw was Newport, so Idon't know what state it's in.

Speaker 1 (02:13:19):
Oh yeah, I don't even know.
Craig said, said still thinkthey should have just turned
their body cam off, like sherequested, and then tased her
nothing beats a jet two holidayoh, country girl truth, country
girl doesn't fucking play thoughshe's, she's.
I would never want to fightcountry girl, that's for sure.

Speaker 8 (02:13:44):
Dave, dave, no, get your feet in the car.
Who the fuck are-.

Speaker 5 (02:13:47):

Speaker 8 (02:13:49):
You're a grown adult, you're acting like a kid.

Speaker 1 (02:13:52):
Dan, I'm gonna go back.

Speaker 3 (02:13:55):
Dan, you're a grown adult.
You're acting like a kid.
Dan, dave, dave, dan, I'm gonnago back partner.

Speaker 2 (02:14:00):
No, Dan, please Get your feet in the car.

Speaker 7 (02:14:05):
No, no, dan, no, dave , dave no.

Speaker 8 (02:14:14):
Who the fuck are you In the car?
You're a grown adult.
You're acting like a kid.
I don't understand.

Speaker 2 (02:14:22):
Dan no.

Speaker 7 (02:14:26):
Who the f*** are you?
This is so inappropriate.
You're overreacting, dan.

Speaker 8 (02:14:40):
Dan she sucks.

Speaker 3 (02:14:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (02:14:43):
What do?

Speaker 1 (02:14:44):
you mean?
What do you mean, sir?
I think she sucks, yeah.
What do you mean?
What do you mean, sir?
I think she's an AG yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:14:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:14:53):
I don't get where you're coming from Unbelievable.
I like it.
Miro.
Does she expect babe?

Speaker 8 (02:15:01):
I don't know, but he is right there.

Speaker 1 (02:15:08):
Mr Bill Fould can't fight ccg and she shoots.
Yeah, that's true.
Yeah, you can't.
Uh, so yeah, guys, um, I'm justgonna say this, like when you
start dropping your title and Iput some videos out of mayors
that do it there's a good one ofa mayor that gets pulled over
on a traffic stop and calls thechief immediately.
he doesn't know who I am.

(02:15:29):
I'm like no, fired immediatelythe moment you try to start
using your position.
You know what I do when I getpulled over I fucking eat it.
Ah, shit, yeah, shit, yeah, mybad, especially if I know I'm
wrong.
There have been some times Ihad a guy pull me over.

(02:15:49):
One time he said I rolled thestop sign.
I'm like, oh shit, Ilegitimately didn't think I did.
I didn't know I did, but Ididn't go.
I'm a cop, yep.

Speaker 8 (02:16:01):
You're a cop and you rolled the stop sign.

Speaker 1 (02:16:04):
Yeah, I didn't do that.
If, if it happens to besomething that comes up, like if
you ask if I have any weaponsin the car, I always leave the
door open.
Yep, I have a weapon in the car, sir, all right.
Hey, uh, where's the weapon at?
It's over here, I'm right.
You see my credentials andthey're always like yep, I want
a secret.
So I've shown that.
So AG stands for always guiltyYep, yep man.

Speaker 4 (02:16:30):
I'm going to follow this one up and see where this
one goes.

Speaker 1 (02:16:33):
Tim, want to be your daddy.
Come to Discord and tell usthat's the best one tonight.
The best one tonight.

Speaker 3 (02:16:47):
There's definitely going to be handcuffs involved.
Yeah, yep.

Speaker 1 (02:16:53):
While you got the husband cucking in the corner.

Speaker 4 (02:16:59):
Oh, she went way out in left field.

Speaker 8 (02:17:02):
Is this real satin?

Speaker 1 (02:17:06):
All right, let's go to some body camera view.

Speaker 3 (02:17:10):
Okay, All right, Somebody Brian just said that
was the assistant attorneygeneral.

Speaker 4 (02:17:17):
Oh Wonder how she got through school.
She obviously didn't retainanything.

Speaker 8 (02:17:21):
Nope, yep, that's bad news, that might be one of the
best videos you've shown us ohfor sure.

Speaker 2 (02:17:30):
Thank you, Twitter.

Speaker 1 (02:17:31):
We may have to start showing Twitter or X, sorry.
Alright, let's biggie size andlet's go.
This is from Police Activity onYouTube 98 and 94, 23.

Speaker 2 (02:17:43):
Right here, right here, put the gun down, okay.

Speaker 1 (02:17:57):
I immediately saw that.
Did you guys see it, Benny?
Did you see where the bad guywas located?
Are you muted, Benny?

Speaker 4 (02:18:09):
Am I back now?
There you go, yeah, sorry.
Yeah, did you mute the part Imuted it because I had to pour
more water into my cup.

Speaker 1 (02:18:18):
Oh, water, of course, hydrogen, okay.
So yeah, if I show up on sceneand the bad guy starts firing at
me, I guess the only natural uh, the only natural response is
to just fire back.
Um, by the way, there's ashirtless man in our discord.

Speaker 4 (02:18:37):
I see it right now I hope that guy that's shooting at
him is not a freakinggin' AGman.

Speaker 1 (02:18:41):
Jesus.

Speaker 4 (02:18:45):
You know how.

Speaker 1 (02:18:46):
I know it's not an AG Banning.

Speaker 4 (02:18:48):
How's that?

Speaker 1 (02:18:50):
He hasn't told us he's an AG.
Oh, that's right.

Speaker 4 (02:18:53):
What a bum.

Speaker 1 (02:18:57):
Oh shit, all right, let's keep going here.
Apparently, he's holding thevehicle.
Jesus, those are rifle rounds.
Yes, like 12 of them.

(02:19:18):
Yes, if you can't see the shellright here, that is a rifle
round.
Where's the gun?
Where's the gun?

Speaker 2 (02:19:55):
okay, I, I have no fucking clue what happened here.

Speaker 1 (02:19:59):
Guns right here you hear the scene.
I like it, got it Okay.
I have no fucking clue whathappened here.

Speaker 4 (02:20:10):
He lost all his money inside the casino and came
outside and took it out oneverybody.
Is that what happened?
I saw something about a casino.

Speaker 1 (02:20:16):
Okay, reno, nevada, along with partnering agencies,
report of an active shooter sohe went out on a shooting spree
before the police even werecalled.
Arrived on scene two and a halfminutes and immediately located
the suspect.
So that's very good responsetime.

(02:20:38):
When officers arrived on scene,suspect immediately started
firing at officers Okay, prettyopen and officers Okay, pretty
open and shut.
Active shooter showed up twoand a half minutes later.

Speaker 4 (02:20:51):
Stopped, the active shooter Dispatched.

Speaker 1 (02:20:55):
Yeah, that was very well done.
I'm only using a Mossberg inservice.
Yeah, I saw the shotgun too.
You don't see that?
A Mossberg in service?
Yeah, I saw the shotgun too.
You don't see that.
A whole lot.
No Marine Blood.
They did not blur all theKool-Aid.

(02:21:15):
That's a good way to put it.
I love it.

Speaker 8 (02:21:19):
Oh shit, I can tell you right now this EH, taylor, I
can tell you guys right nowthis EH Taylor, I can tell you
guys right now Good old Colonelman, good old.

Speaker 1 (02:21:31):
Colonel in one of my videos.

Speaker 4 (02:21:38):
I am loving it.
Okay, did you get that from theAG, or was that giving you a
signal?
Oh shit, coupons on our Discord.
Don't forget to swing by ourDiscord.

Speaker 1 (02:21:45):
I love the way you said that.

Speaker 8 (02:21:51):
Discord I'm new to Discord.

Speaker 1 (02:21:54):
Okay, like the kernel check out a picture of it in
the Discord.
You know, I do find it odd thatBadge502's mic is complete
opposite of everybody that weever see.

Speaker 8 (02:22:07):
This is like dangling it might hang just this way
yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:22:11):
Ugh.

Speaker 8 (02:22:11):
I'm going to have to go like this there you go.

Speaker 1 (02:22:16):
All right, let me see here.
All right, you guys, let'sbiggie size this one.
There we go.
That's my biggie size sound.
What did that say 167 millionPowerball jackpot winner gets
tased what he's going to be ableto score the AG.
Let me tell you this right nowIf I win 167 million dollars,

(02:22:38):
you ain't going to see me?
I'm probably going to get tased.
I'm probably going to get tasedtoo.

Speaker 8 (02:22:43):
I'm going to act a fool, I'm going, going to get it
, I'm probably going to get ataste too.

Speaker 1 (02:22:46):
I'm going to act a fool.
I'm going to act a fool.
I love my lieutenant, but I maygo act a fool in front of him
just to see what he does, justone time.
Lt.
I do this out of love and thentake a shit out of the desk, I
don't know.
See what happens.
Alright, we'll probably getsome sound here in a second.

(02:23:06):
How are we gonna ignore thedude that was just laying on the
?
Floor hold on, let's go back.
Yeah, there's a person justlaying out how the fuck did we
just?

Speaker 8 (02:23:21):
how do we gloss over that?

Speaker 4 (02:23:23):
hey, that's a public easement, don't even say
anything to him normal.

Speaker 1 (02:23:29):
Here we got a call about a random dude, not this
guy.
This ain't our call, we ain'twe're gonna keep going that's
the most emt shit I've ever seen, right there I've seen emt's
drive right by.
We got a guy on the ground.
That's not our call.
We're dealing with somethingelse he's bleeding out.
That's not our call.
That one may have peed onhimself.

Speaker 3 (02:23:52):
I'm out.

Speaker 8 (02:23:58):
This guy's on the phone.
He's like yeah, I don't know.
Oh, oh, shit I was looking atcomments I don't know.

Speaker 1 (02:24:05):
Oh shit, I was looking at comments.
What is this guy doing?

Speaker 2 (02:24:09):
Are you kidding me?
Oh, was that good on the ground?

Speaker 1 (02:24:16):
In the May, fight this dude's shirtless.
Alan, where were you on?
I'm going to go back.
I want to go back to when wemade contact with this dude.

Speaker 3 (02:24:29):
Well, if you go to our Discord, you might see a
shirtless man right now.

Speaker 4 (02:24:33):
Is that blonde chick sitting right there?
The AG no.

Speaker 1 (02:24:36):
Dude, you aren't lying.
That looks like her, doesn't it?
It does look like her, newport,nevada.
All right, let's keep goinghere.
I want to see oh, okay, he'sfighting shirtless guy.
I didn't see that.
Okay, so these guys are allright.

(02:24:57):
He's got a little rear nakedchoke going on.
I'm all right with that.

Speaker 4 (02:25:00):
Hey, shirtless, I think there's another one.

Speaker 1 (02:25:03):
No, no, he's got neon shoes, so he gets this guy and
he's like this guy's like Idon't want, yeah, this.
This guy tried to kick the copfor unknown reason.

Speaker 2 (02:25:18):
On the ground.
No, he's 12, step it up.

Speaker 6 (02:25:20):
I just got kicked you enough, he's 12, step it up.
I just got kicked.

Speaker 5 (02:25:24):
Relax, do not Just stay down.
No, you're not.
No, you're not.

Speaker 2 (02:25:27):
Stay right fucking here, you enough.
I didn't even know you werehere, doesn't fucking make a
difference.

Speaker 1 (02:25:36):
No, that actually does make a pretty big
difference.
The guy was actively in a fightwith fucking nut job in a
shirtless and just kicked you bythe way.

Speaker 4 (02:25:43):
I wonder if a shirtless and just kicked you,
by the way, I wonder ifshirtless guy is a buddy of his
and they just got in a squabble.

Speaker 1 (02:25:48):
Yeah, it kind of looks that way.
Possibly, or maybe he's just agood Samaritan who's trying to
get this guy to fucking chillout.

Speaker 3 (02:25:55):
What the fuck are you doing?

Speaker 2 (02:25:58):
I got popped in the face.

Speaker 1 (02:26:00):
Securing everyone.
He said I got popped in theface.
Yeah, I get that.
Secure everybody, you're byyourself.
No shirt, no shirt.

Speaker 8 (02:26:14):
He got served pretty good, he did get served.

Speaker 1 (02:26:16):
He got served a foot to the face.

Speaker 2 (02:26:21):
You stay there.
Sit your goofy ass on that, putyour hands behind your back
right and go fuck now.

Speaker 5 (02:26:29):
Put your hands behind your back, get him.

Speaker 1 (02:26:31):
Most drunk eyes ever.

Speaker 4 (02:26:33):
I thought that was Aquaman for a second.

Speaker 1 (02:26:35):
He's got that.

Speaker 8 (02:26:36):
Aquaman scale.

Speaker 1 (02:26:38):
I was about to say the same thing, Aquaman damn, he
let himself go Shit.
He believed in two things fishand Jesus.

Speaker 3 (02:26:51):
Is that a younger Tim ?

Speaker 6 (02:26:55):
Hey guys, you want to know what's going on with him.

Speaker 1 (02:26:57):
These days he's in the MMA fighting with police.
See it in the.

Speaker 4 (02:27:00):
Discord yeah I was going to say he's about to tell
these officers, you can put mycharges in discord.

Speaker 2 (02:27:11):
Fucking wall against the wall.

Speaker 1 (02:27:22):
Take down buddy.

Speaker 2 (02:27:24):
No, I have one on the ground there.
He fucking kicked me in theface.

Speaker 8 (02:27:30):
He's fucking gone, let's go back Fucking wall,
let's go back Against the wall.

Speaker 1 (02:27:36):
Okay, takedown, boom.
Not only did he just, hecollected, he lifted, collected,
he lifted and took him down.
Pure scrimmage, yep.

Speaker 8 (02:27:50):
Taser deployed no how long was I on there?

Speaker 2 (02:27:56):
oh, he's bleeding he fucking kicked me in the face.

Speaker 1 (02:27:59):
He's fucking going yeah, that's a good read that's
good alright pass game twofucking going.
Yeah, that's a good read that'sgood, all right I just want to

(02:28:24):
say this is like one of theugliest, wannabe looking hotel
resort things I've ever seen.

Speaker 4 (02:28:34):
I've been to some bad ones, trust me it's 2am, the
bar closed and this fuckingplace is open yeah they're
allowing you to be IOB, so comeon in and party.

Speaker 1 (02:28:47):
Outdoors.

Speaker 3 (02:28:48):
This is perfect, I think they have a place like
this down in.
Odessa.

Speaker 1 (02:28:53):
Yeah, yeah, I don't know.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:28:58):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:29:00):
Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah .

Speaker 4 (02:29:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (02:29:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:29:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:29:10):
Yeah, yeah All right boys, we got it.
We got to at least get him inthe recovery position.

Speaker 7 (02:29:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:29:18):
I get it.
He had the tackle coming all ofthat, but we got to get him in
the recovery position Fight over, get medics there and then
figure out what the hell you got.
Mt, can you explain to us therecovery position and what it's
for?

Speaker 8 (02:29:29):
Put them on your side , Make sure they can breathe.
If they throw up, you throw upout and they don't throw up in.

Speaker 1 (02:29:34):
Yep Keeps the airway clear.
I like it.
Well, the medics may be tied upover on the other.

Speaker 8 (02:29:41):
call the Medics are 25 feet away.

Speaker 1 (02:29:43):
No they're with the AG right now.

Speaker 8 (02:29:46):
The cover condition is pretty amazing.
It's just the simplicity of thethings that have changed.

Speaker 6 (02:29:57):
He fucking kicked me, he's gone.

Speaker 5 (02:30:04):
You see, I have man, you walk up and you fucking kick
him and you hit me in thefucking face.
I'm sorry, man.

Speaker 8 (02:30:11):
Alright.

Speaker 5 (02:30:13):
Have you ever been?

Speaker 8 (02:30:14):
kicked in the face, no, but I have stayed at a
Holiday Inn Express.

Speaker 1 (02:30:17):
Fair, he apologized.
I mean, Maybe you weren't hisintended target.
Yeah, he couldn't stand up.
I wouldn't be far-fetched tosay his kick just missed.

Speaker 5 (02:30:24):
I mean.

Speaker 8 (02:30:24):
Maybe you weren't his intended target I mean the dude
.
He couldn't stand up.
I wouldn't be far fetched tosay his cake just missed.

Speaker 4 (02:30:29):
And don't forget to ask if they want a criminal
trespass Before they take him.

Speaker 1 (02:30:33):
Yeah, yes, solicit that trespass before you go.

Speaker 8 (02:30:36):
Save your fucking stories for later.
He's pissed.
He's a parrot.
That dude's big mad he's like.

Speaker 1 (02:30:42):
Keep your that dude's big mad he's like stuff your
scars in a sack.
He didn't even know what to say.
You kicked me in the face, manRelax man Busted me right in the
mouth, Mark.
Relax, it's police work, bro.
You get hit, it happens.
Don't take it personal, justrelax, oh shit, you'll look fine

(02:31:04):
, you'll.
Don't take it personal, justrelax, oh shit, you'll look fine
, you'll be okay, I promise so.
All right, that is, that's it.
That's what we got tonight.
That's all the videos thatwe've got right now.

Speaker 8 (02:31:18):
You found some bangers today, man.

Speaker 1 (02:31:20):
Yeah, yeah, we had some good stuff.
We're at two and a half hours.
I think.
You know me and banning got aflight to catch tomorrow, so we
do, we do can't wait.
Can't wait to hear the update.
Yeah, we've got some good stuffgoing on.
Um, yeah, it's gonna be good.
Um, I can't wait and my hope isthis is the catalyst to get
some, some bigger things, uh,off the ground.

(02:31:40):
Um, badge 502.
I know I've talked to youoffline on some things.
I definitely think, if thesetake off, we're going to be able
to come up with some little,because your thing's comedy baby
.

Speaker 8 (02:31:54):
You got some cool ideas, you do.

Speaker 1 (02:31:56):
And I want to take those ideas and put them into
something that has theproduction that it deserves,
because there's only you knowhow it is.
There's only so much we can dofrom our fucking basement, so I
want to get that stuff going.
But looking over at thecomments, uh, marine blood said
you know, the hotel mall shouldask officers to leave their cars

(02:32:19):
there.
The flashing lights add to thedecoration.
Yeah, all they had was thewhite lights on the fake palm
trees.

Speaker 4 (02:32:27):
Man, I'm just glad we got to go freaking live.
I didn't know if we were goingto be able to go live.

Speaker 1 (02:32:31):
I know I can't believe it.
We spent about a half hourtrying to get that fucking
troubleshooted.

Speaker 4 (02:32:37):
Man, the whole time y'all were doing that, I was
applying for the AG's position.
Here, I'll let y' you know howit goes.

Speaker 8 (02:32:45):
I hear it's open these days.

Speaker 4 (02:32:47):
There's a link in our Discord if anybody wants to go
apply.

Speaker 1 (02:32:53):
Eric Levine for AG.
I can't do it because when Iget drunk I would never say I'm
the AG.

Speaker 4 (02:33:04):
Steve needs more videos.

Speaker 1 (02:33:05):
he'll give you his id he's giving up the id crack.
I love it.
Oh shit, no, it was great.
Uh, good episode tonight, guys.
Um, appreciate it, I've, I'vegot a shutdown, I've got a lot
of packing to do and thesecameras that I'm using I have to
take with me.
So, um, only one like is thatall we got tonight was one like

(02:33:29):
god damn weird.
We don't push that shit enough.
I guess I think that's theproblem, guys, listen, it
doesn't.
I'm not asking for you to giveus money.
I haven't talked about money atall tonight, except for at the
beginning.
Um, yeah, uh, if you can'tdonate, that's fine.

(02:33:49):
I don't want your hard-earnedmoney.
I would rather you just like,follow and, uh, subscribe.
That stuff helps us a lot.
So if you could do that, thatwould help out a lot.
Uh, badge 502 before we get outof here.
How can people find you,brother?
I?

Speaker 8 (02:34:03):
I am all over social media.
Everything is Badge502 exceptfor Instagram, because somebody
beat me to the draw that littlerat fink, it's EMTBadge502 over
there.
We also have our YouTube andour TikTok and our Facebook and
all that good stuff.

Speaker 1 (02:34:17):
Yes, so for all of our people, please especially
try to find Badge502's YouTubechannel.

Speaker 8 (02:34:23):
Come check it out.
You can especially try to findbadge 502's youtube channel.

Speaker 1 (02:34:26):
I want to check it out, but you can check it out at
badge 502.com has all the linksto everything and, yeah, I want
her store and all that goodstuff.
I want that to grow.
I want his youtube to get upthere.

Speaker 8 (02:34:32):
So me too.
I have such a nice plaque spotand I can't fill it.

Speaker 1 (02:34:37):
What's crazy to me is you have an incredible amount
of followers on facebook,instagram.
Uh, we're close to three milacross everything.

Speaker 8 (02:34:49):
Tiktok's at like 860, yeah uh.
Instagram's at like six andchange.

Speaker 1 (02:34:56):
Facebook's at like five and change which is crazy,
but your youtube is not thereshe's a tough egg to crack
tiktok's at 660 tiktok's.

Speaker 8 (02:35:03):
the hard egg to crack TikTok's that 660.

Speaker 1 (02:35:04):
For me, tiktok's the hard egg to crack.
Now don't get me wrong.
Listen everybody, I am not TwoCops, One Donut is not at the
numbers that he is at at all,Because on Instagram and all
that shit he is murdering us.

Speaker 8 (02:35:21):
I'm super famous.
That's why I wear Gray Haynest-shirts.

Speaker 1 (02:35:28):
But TikTok, I cannot.
I'm at maybe 20,000, which is,don't get me wrong, I'm very
appreciative of that, buteverything else is 150,000.
I don't know how you get it.
I don't know how you get it,but what I really want to grow
is, if you haven't found out,tonight is our Discord channel.

Speaker 8 (02:35:50):
Want to help grow Anthony's YouTube Join.

Speaker 1 (02:35:53):
Top 1.
Donuts Discord, yes, but yeah,anthony, we're going to.
I think we may already have achannel for you on there, maybe
not, but that's definitelysomething that we want to do is
have a channel for you on there.
Maybe not, but that'sdefinitely something that we
want to do is have a channel onthere, just so people can come
ask you questions.
You get to it when you get toit.

(02:36:13):
I don't want you to feel Tomattend me.
Yeah, I don't want you to feelobligated to.

Speaker 8 (02:36:20):
I got told 76 times to put my Discord up.

Speaker 1 (02:36:23):
Yeah, thanks to Tim.
Tim was killing it tonight.
Uh, banning, what do you got?
Closing comments sir.

Speaker 4 (02:36:30):
I think it was a great video.
I'm glad the powers that befinally let us get online.
I'm looking forward to thisweek.
I think everybody, once theysee the, the pretty, the, the
fit, the finish I can't talkfinish product of what we're
going to do in Scottsdale isgoing to be amazing.
We're going to try to bringy'all some outstanding content
out there, and if y'all couldjust help us uh like and throw
it out if you like and you wantto throw it out, obviously, but

(02:36:53):
I think it's going to be great,man, I think it's going to be
frigging awesome.
Uh, what Eric is developinghere, and thank you to Chris and
Paulina, and I think this wholeplan is coming together.
I think it's amazing, man, it'sright around the corner.

Speaker 1 (02:37:07):
baby Alan, you got any?

Speaker 3 (02:37:10):
closing comments.
Brother, no, just thanks forhaving me and bearing with us.

Speaker 1 (02:37:16):
I couldn't figure it out, that was good, we were all
trying to figure it out, we justhad to go offline and need a
power ring and came back on.

Speaker 4 (02:37:21):
We're good, I like it All.
We just had to go offline andneed a power ring and came back
on.

Speaker 1 (02:37:24):
We're good, I like it All.
Right, guys, Everybody have agood night.
Thanks for joining in.
Take it easy.
Thanks y'all.

Speaker 8 (02:37:30):
Take care.

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