August 23, 2025 • 18 mins
It’s another huge week of pro wrestling and All Elite Wrestling is back with a hard-hitting pay-per-view — AEW Forbidden Door 2025, live from the O2 Arena in London, England on Sunday, August 24! Ryan and Denton are here to break it all down with full predictions on the match order, winners, and surprises that could shake up the AEW landscape. Full Match Card Predictions:
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- Hangman Page vs. MJF – AEW World Championship (title can change hands on count-out or DQ)
- Toni Storm vs. ROH Women’s Champion Athena – AEW Women’s Championship
- Zack Sabre Jr. vs. Nigel McGuinness – IWGP Heavyweight Championship
- Kazuchika Okada vs. Swerve Strickland – AEW Unified Championship
- The Hurt Syndicate (Bobby Lashley & Shelton Benjamin) vs. FTR vs. Bandido & Brody King – AEW Tag Team Titles, Triple Threat
- Mercedes Moné vs. Alex Windsor vs. Persephone vs. Bozilla – TBS Championship, Four-Way
- Kyle Fletcher vs. Hiromu Takahashi – TNT Championship
- Darby Allin, Kenny Omega, Will Ospreay, Hiroshi Tanahashi & Kota Ibushi vs. Jon Moxley, The Young Bucks, Gabe Kidd & Claudio Castagnoli – Lights Out Steel Cage Match
- Adam Copeland & Christian Cage vs. Killswitch & Kip Sabian
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Two dudes with attitudes of wrestling podcasts with Brian and
(00:04):
Joyce Wrestling.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
And m w oh.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
And this is our ae W Forbidden Door Prediction show.
We got nine matches on this card, a lot of
stuff happening, a lot of implications, a lot of rivalries,
a lot of possibly new titles.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Ryan, are you ready to predict? Yeah? I am.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
And if you like this and you want to see
other stuff like it, go subscribe. Don't forget to subscribe
to our channel. Go let us know in the comments
where you think about Forbidden Door. This doesn't this is
We should just call it door, which we joked about
last week because there's nothing really forbidden about it. But yeah,
let us know in the comments where your predictions are
and if you agree with us or disagree, let us know.
(00:45):
So we're excited for Forbidden Door. It should be a
good show.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
It should be good.
Speaker 4 (00:50):
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Speaker 2 (01:15):
Pop man, all right, it is Forbidden door time, my friend.
I'm ready? Are you ready?
Speaker 1 (01:28):
And like Ryan said, tell us in the comments, whether
you agree or disagree, Ryan's gonna try to for not
only make the predictions of the matches, go to the
order as well.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
You're starting with the women's championship match.
Speaker 5 (01:40):
I am. I think they're going to open the show.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
I do, but AW was impossible to predict match outcomes
because they'll put you know, the revolution that we went
to earlier this year, they had like four matches back
to back to back that all could have closed the show.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
They had the cage match, they had the John Moxley
Copeland match, they had the offspring match. They had was like,
oh my gosh, like all of these matches could close
the show, and they did them back and back to back.
So aw's impossible.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Over well, Tony Khan is the king of booking matches
and putting him in a good order, let's get into it.
We got the Women's AAW champion, Tony Storm versus the
ROH Women's Champion Forever Champion, Athena. It's only for the
AAW Women's World Championship. I think this is the hardest
match to predict.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Who do you got?
Speaker 3 (02:28):
I'm gonna give this match to Tony's Storm. This week,
I think Tony Storm retains the title and I think
ultimately continue she the last time she was in London,
she got this by Mariah May, and I think she
(02:49):
wants to get her come up into London. I think
she's gonna hand Athena her first loss, just like she
handed Mercedes Monnet her first loss in AEW and then
I think that either all out next month or maybe
later on in the year, Athena will beat Tony Storm.
But right now, I'm gonna get the win to Tony Song.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
You know what, We're gonna finally disagree from the last
prediction show as well, but I'm gonna go with a Fena.
I'm gonna throw it out there. I think she's red hot.
I think she is that girl. She looks great, she
wrestles great, She's been cutting good promos. She's the ROH
Champion for the past three decades.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
In a row.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Why not let's just throw it on her and see
what happens. I don't If Tony wins, I'm not gonna
be surprised. I think that's the odds on favorite. But
I'm gonna go ahead out on a limb and say
Athena wins the Women's Championship.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
Yeah, and normally I would agree. I was predicting the
Athena to win, but then the WWE started all this
counterprogramming stuff and now I'm like, okay, what can Adaw
do to respond to that? And that is hold the
title off, keep the title off Tony Storm this week
or at least a forbidden door, and then have a
big moment where Athena beats Tony Storm at all out
(03:59):
next month and then you know, you kind of responding
to some of that kind of kind of program.
Speaker 5 (04:03):
At least that's what I would do.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Yeah, all right, all right, what do you think match
number two is? Right? Whoo? All right?
Speaker 1 (04:11):
You got the IWGP World Heavyweight Championship title match between
the champion, Zach Saber Junior versus Nigel McGuinness with Garcia
in his corner for maybe he's gonna help him lose,
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
But who do you got let's hear it.
Speaker 5 (04:27):
That's exactly what it is.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
I think Zach Saber Junior is going to retain his championship,
and I think Nigel mcgannis. I think Daniel Garcia is
going to cost Nigel McGinnis to match. He's gonna finally
turn heel and we're gonna get some personality from Dai
Narsia for a while. He needs a We talked about
Samy Zay needing a changing character. I think Daniel Varsity
is another one who needs a really bad changing character,
(04:49):
and I think a heel turn would do him wonders
and him turning on Nigel McGuinness would be I think
a good start. So Zach Saber Junior retains, Nigel McGinnis
takes the pin because of Damian Garcia.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
I fully agree Zach wins helped from Danny gard You
can tell he didn't even want to team up with them.
Nigel kind of like it was an awkward thing on
Collision too, where he was like, hey, buddy, you tried
your best, you almost won champ and then he was
like you want to be in my corner and Danny
Garcia was like, what the all right?
Speaker 2 (05:16):
It was very weird obviously. Yeah, it smells turning. He
needs it, all right, what's next?
Speaker 1 (05:23):
We got the renewed Edge and Christian now as Cope
and Christian Cage and they will tag up against one
Kip Saban and a returning Lucasaurus, but he'll be called
kill Switch. Nick Wayne got injured. I don't know what
it was, but nonetheless, you have a return, but you
have a return. Who's gonna win?
Speaker 5 (05:45):
You know, I'm gonna go kill Switch and Kip saving.
I think that.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
I think you're trying to really push the patriarchy.
Speaker 5 (05:55):
You're trying to and I think it's gonna add some ten.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
I think FTR is going to come out and call
and cost Cop and Cage to match. I think maybe
Coke fights with Dax Harwood and and Cash Wheeler and
take they take it into the crowd or something, and
he abandons Christian Cage, causing Christian Cage to basically lose
by himself. He's down three to one because uh, I
(06:21):
think Nick Wayne's going to interfere. I think Kick Savian
is going to get blows in. I think Mama Wayne's
going to get there, and of course Killswitch is going
to do his thing. But so I think that's going
to add more attention to cop and Cage, and you know,
can they trust each other as they go after the
taxing titles later on? At all out? So I think
Coping Cage take the loss here and build the patriarch
(06:43):
up a little bit.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
You know.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
The only way they lose if FTR comes out to
help them. But I just the pop they get if
they win. I have to go out of the tradition Cage,
I have to, I just don't. I mean, this is
what he does though. Tony Kahan love he brought somebody
in who's the guy he just introduced on was it Collision?
He had him a brand news sign and he's all
elite and then he lost like he always has people
(07:08):
like Josh Hauxen was one, but he just had someone
this past week. He just has people PROMI here and
then lose, Like what the heck are you doing? So
I can see it happening. But now I gotta go
with that of Copeland and Christian k Here.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
I'm gonna stick with ye.
Speaker 5 (07:21):
That's why I want to win.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
But I could just see I can see a scenario
if you want to continue, because Christian Kage acted like
he didn't want to be with Copeland anymore. He want
to be in this tag team. So there's obviously still
some tension there. Imagine if FTR does come out and
Coke fights him into the crowd, leading Christian Cage stranded
and can you trust him?
Speaker 5 (07:40):
So that's the only thing I can see.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
All right, what's next? The TNT Championship match.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
You got the champion Kyle Fletcher versus what is it,
Takahashi against Takahashi for the championship, TNA T and T Championship.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Who do you got?
Speaker 1 (07:59):
This is the only forbid door match, I think, Yeah,
well I guess Nick Sabers, Kyle Fletcher or Zach Saber.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Yeah, Kyle Fletcher.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
Yeah, I mean that's really it. I mean yeah, but
that no, no way stands or butts. Kyle Fletcher's getting the.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Win the end.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Zero percent chance Kyle Fletcher loses this match. That's why
he's going against Takahashi. So all right, next up here
it is, we got the TBS Championship in a four way.
We got Mercedes Monday versus Alex Windsor versus per Sephony
versus bo Zilla for Sephony?
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Did I say that right? Yeah, versus bo Zilla.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
I don't know why.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
That's like the hard name card, all right, but who
do you got?
Speaker 3 (08:45):
I have been really impressed with Alex Windsor since her
debut in ae W and repairing her with Tony Storm
has been a fantastic thing for her and getting us
excited about this match, And I'm also, believe it or not,
I'm gonna give the a little bit of credit. I
think putting Mercedes with Athena as kind of a little
bit of an alliance has done wonders for both of
(09:07):
them as well. Athenum's already that girl, but I think
it's helped Mercedes a little bit. But with that being said,
I think Mercedes gets to win here, and I don't
think she's dropping the titles anytime soon. She's not losing
back to back.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Peelis no, and this is another forbidden door match because
obviously Persafena is from CML and Bozilla's from stardom, so
this is a although the you know, everybody wrestles on you,
but the only person has a chance is Alex Windsor.
I don't think if she does win it, she'll win
it in a four way, So yeah, Mercedes Monday. This
looks like the easiest predicted match at the night it
(09:41):
she doesn't even look like she belongs Tony Storm.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
And it's kind of like, all right, the Tag Team
Championship is it a three way now? After a time
limit draw?
Speaker 1 (09:53):
And we got one Hurt Syndicate versus FTR versus Broddo.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Who do you got you had?
Speaker 3 (10:02):
You had a tournament, a tournament that you can't you
have the finals of a tournament that go to a
time limit draw. And so the answer is a triple threat.
You can't do overtime, you can't do like five more minutes.
Speaker 5 (10:14):
You know you have to do it.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
It's time them draw. I don't get it. I really
want the Hurt Syndicate to retain, but I think it's
I think these are FDR's titles to lose next month
at all out to coping cage. So I'm gonna say
FTR get the win. I think the Prodido takes the pin,
and yeah, I don't Maybe MJF costs the Hurt Syndicate
(10:37):
or something and we get that few going forward or something.
Speaker 5 (10:40):
I don't know, but FTR is gonna win.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
Yeah, man, that'd be like the Super Bowl ending in
an overtime draw like they just like ended after fifteen
minutes to go. Well, that's it, ty game, you're both
super Bowl champions. FTR one is winning. I think the
only reason why I was put into a three way
for this was so they can pin Brodido instead of
pinning the Hurt Syndicate. I think the Hurt Syndicate's gonna
move on to MJF. They eluded at it on Dynamite,
(11:05):
So yeah, FDR's time. They're the hottest tag team right now.
They're gonna win it and eventually lose it to one
coping Christian Cage in the future.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
So I got FTR winning it, and they deserve it.
They're doing some of their best work right now. Man.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
These teams turn into hills and they get so damn good.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
They really do. They really, and I'll give AW more credit.
I think the pairing of Broddo has has been fantastic
as well. I think they're proud, really taken to him,
and they've been They've been fun to watch, so I'm
excited about that. The tactics in an AW slowly slowly
starting to cook.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
I agree. I agree. What do you got next?
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Who you got the AEW Unified Championship. One Okata versus
one Swerve Strickland.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Who do you got? That's the hard one to predict
as well.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
Yeah, I'm gonna give it to Okada. There's rumblings out
there that Swarve Strickland has a knee injury and he
has to have some surgery and he's gonna miss miss
some time. And you know, this was something that happened
before all in, but he wanted to see the Hangman
page story through. So there's that's what the rumor mill
is saying. So I think, obviously this is the perfect
(12:11):
time for him to lose and Okada retains have all
eight thousand members of the don Kallis family beat up
Swerve as a way to write him off TV or something.
But I think it's gonna be a great match. I
can't wait for it. But I think O'cada wins just
based on the fact that Swerve could be heard.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Yeah, I'll bet on Okada until he loses, and he
never does, so I will forever bet on him until
that happens. So yeah, I got Ocada beaten sword of
Strickling and defending his AW Unified Championship.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Belt keeping the don Kallis family strong.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Yeah, all right, and main eventime we got through at
number nine. All right, we got one hangman, Adam Paige
defending his title against one MJF. MJF has talked himself
out of it. This is a no d. You can
win by DQ, you can win by help, you can
win by anything. And he is not giving up his contract,
but pretty much tells us that he's losing.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Who do you got?
Speaker 3 (13:10):
Yeah, Haman Page is winning. I don't know he's gonna
win through hell or high water. He's gonna find a
way to win. I like that they undid their mistake
this week with MJF not cashing in the contract. I
like that. You know, people were talking about how it
loose made the unpaid real week. I actually don't think
it did.
Speaker 5 (13:28):
I think it made him look dumb.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
I actually think you know, his whole character is that
he doesn't act on impulse anymore. He doesn't get angry
over things. But I like the added nugget that you know,
he did act impulsively, and he did act angrily towards
MJF this week, and it.
Speaker 5 (13:45):
Shows that he's flawed. He still has those flaws and
He's not.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
Perfect by any stretch, and I think that's a cool
character trait for Adam Paige to have. But Adam Bage
is gonna win. I don't know how he wins. I'm
sure somebody will help or even though technically if he
has help then m JF wins.
Speaker 5 (14:02):
So somehow, some.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
Way, Adam Page is gonna win. He's going to go
two and oh if it's in JF this.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
Year, is he's going to go to and oh, and
that's going to pay later on in the future. But
he will win and move on to other part people,
Darby Allen and so on, while MGF moves on to
Mark Brisco and the Hurt Syndicate, and he will have
a busy four or five months until he defeats Hangman
Page and cashes in and wins the World Championship and
(14:27):
gets back.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
His triple B.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
So this was the only right decision. And I think
after Tony con did it not just me, but I
think a lot of people talk about how stupid of
a decision it was, how quick it was, and I
think he realized that and thought, oh, that was a mistake,
let's get it back.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
So yeah, good call on that, and you.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
Know, yeah, if that's if that's true, and shout out
to him for listening to the crowd.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
Yeah, he usually does. He's definitely an Internet person. All right,
Oh sorry, that wasn't the main event. I forgot the
real main event. But technically it's not the main event
because a lights out stale cage match happens after the
lights are out. Will ast is not even allowed to
be in the damn match BRUV. But we got, you know,
basically the Death Writers versus Will Osprey and friends. You
guys can see everyone who's in the match, a whole
(15:08):
bunch of people.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Who do you got? You got Team Mox or you
got team will Osprey.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
Mmmm. This one's actually hard to predict. But I'm gonna
go team I'm gonna go Team mox. I think that
the Death Writers meeting, I think they're gonna I think
they need a big victory, and I think they need
to do something to Darby Allen. Darby Allen has been
getting the best of John Moxley over the last couple
of weeks now, and I think it's got to set
up for John. Moxley's got to get some revenge and
(15:37):
he's got to get some come ups against Darby Allen
for everything that he's done to him. So I think
this is how we get to Darby versus John Moxley
all Out in Canada next month. But I think, you know,
after losing the title at all In and then constantly
being you know, he's won a couple of matches on
Dynamite here and there, but I think John Moxley and
his team need a big victory. And I don't know.
(16:00):
Obviously it's a cage Master's you know, anything can go,
they can cheat to win. But I think this sets
us up for Darby Allen versus John Moxley at all Out,
which Darby Allen wouldn't win.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
Yeah, I like that call.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
I think it's gonna have something to do with will Osprey,
though I also think Team Moxley is gonna win. But
I think I think Will Ospray is injured and I
think he's whatever he wanted to do this match. Yeah,
I think he wanted to do this match, so I
think it's gonna take it really easy, but at some
point something's gonna happen. He's gonna get his butt beat
down and he's gonna take the pinfall and then be gone.
For a while and it will cost his team the match.
(16:35):
So yeah, I got team Box as well. Death Writers prevail.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Yeah, all right, yeah, I think Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
I was just gonna say, I think they need a
big victory and I think they'll get it and then
then they can go their separate ways.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
By the way, what's up with Gabe kid? We didn't
have time for Wheeler Uta? Or he's like good enough
to be Yeah, I don't care.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
Yeah cool, he hasn't even been on TV though. Let's
bring him back, will or you're not good enough?
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Get off my screen? All right?
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Two dudes with attitudes of wrestling podcasts with Brian and
(00:04):
Joyce Wrestling.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
And m w oh.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
And this is our ae W Forbidden Door Prediction show.
We got nine matches on this card, a lot of
stuff happening, a lot of implications, a lot of rivalries,
a lot of possibly new titles.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Ryan, are you ready to predict? Yeah? I am.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
And if you like this and you want to see
other stuff like it, go subscribe. Don't forget to subscribe
to our channel. Go let us know in the comments
where you think about Forbidden Door. This doesn't this is
We should just call it door, which we joked about
last week because there's nothing really forbidden about it. But yeah,
let us know in the comments where your predictions are
and if you agree with us or disagree, let us know.
(00:45):
So we're excited for Forbidden Door. It should be a
good show.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
It should be good.
Speaker 4 (00:50):
Hit that music tool dudes with attitudes, let's go dudes
and the attitudes roots. It's aggressively speaking, so less Dune
is we're frowning and didn't they hit it? Get your
attention to five starf brad cans stalk to the ending,
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(01:12):
so on time to lack and listen to the podcast
when they get it.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Pop man, all right, it is Forbidden door time, my friend.
I'm ready? Are you ready?
Speaker 1 (01:28):
And like Ryan said, tell us in the comments, whether
you agree or disagree, Ryan's gonna try to for not
only make the predictions of the matches, go to the
order as well.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
You're starting with the women's championship match.
Speaker 5 (01:40):
I am. I think they're going to open the show.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
I do, but AW was impossible to predict match outcomes
because they'll put you know, the revolution that we went
to earlier this year, they had like four matches back
to back to back that all could have closed the show.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
They had the cage match, they had the John Moxley
Copeland match, they had the offspring match. They had was like,
oh my gosh, like all of these matches could close
the show, and they did them back and back to back.
So aw's impossible.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Over well, Tony Khan is the king of booking matches
and putting him in a good order, let's get into it.
We got the Women's AAW champion, Tony Storm versus the
ROH Women's Champion Forever Champion, Athena. It's only for the
AAW Women's World Championship. I think this is the hardest
match to predict.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Who do you got?
Speaker 3 (02:28):
I'm gonna give this match to Tony's Storm. This week,
I think Tony Storm retains the title and I think
ultimately continue she the last time she was in London,
she got this by Mariah May, and I think she
(02:49):
wants to get her come up into London. I think
she's gonna hand Athena her first loss, just like she
handed Mercedes Monnet her first loss in AEW and then
I think that either all out next month or maybe
later on in the year, Athena will beat Tony Storm.
But right now, I'm gonna get the win to Tony Song.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
You know what, We're gonna finally disagree from the last
prediction show as well, but I'm gonna go with a Fena.
I'm gonna throw it out there. I think she's red hot.
I think she is that girl. She looks great, she
wrestles great, She's been cutting good promos. She's the ROH
Champion for the past three decades.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
In a row.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Why not let's just throw it on her and see
what happens. I don't If Tony wins, I'm not gonna
be surprised. I think that's the odds on favorite. But
I'm gonna go ahead out on a limb and say
Athena wins the Women's Championship.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
Yeah, and normally I would agree. I was predicting the
Athena to win, but then the WWE started all this
counterprogramming stuff and now I'm like, okay, what can Adaw
do to respond to that? And that is hold the
title off, keep the title off Tony Storm this week
or at least a forbidden door, and then have a
big moment where Athena beats Tony Storm at all out
(03:59):
next month and then you know, you kind of responding
to some of that kind of kind of program.
Speaker 5 (04:03):
At least that's what I would do.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Yeah, all right, all right, what do you think match
number two is? Right? Whoo? All right?
Speaker 1 (04:11):
You got the IWGP World Heavyweight Championship title match between
the champion, Zach Saber Junior versus Nigel McGuinness with Garcia
in his corner for maybe he's gonna help him lose,
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
But who do you got let's hear it.
Speaker 5 (04:27):
That's exactly what it is.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
I think Zach Saber Junior is going to retain his championship,
and I think Nigel mcgannis. I think Daniel Garcia is
going to cost Nigel McGinnis to match. He's gonna finally
turn heel and we're gonna get some personality from Dai
Narsia for a while. He needs a We talked about
Samy Zay needing a changing character. I think Daniel Varsity
is another one who needs a really bad changing character,
(04:49):
and I think a heel turn would do him wonders
and him turning on Nigel McGuinness would be I think
a good start. So Zach Saber Junior retains, Nigel McGinnis
takes the pin because of Damian Garcia.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
I fully agree Zach wins helped from Danny gard You
can tell he didn't even want to team up with them.
Nigel kind of like it was an awkward thing on
Collision too, where he was like, hey, buddy, you tried
your best, you almost won champ and then he was
like you want to be in my corner and Danny
Garcia was like, what the all right?
Speaker 2 (05:16):
It was very weird obviously. Yeah, it smells turning. He
needs it, all right, what's next?
Speaker 1 (05:23):
We got the renewed Edge and Christian now as Cope
and Christian Cage and they will tag up against one
Kip Saban and a returning Lucasaurus, but he'll be called
kill Switch. Nick Wayne got injured. I don't know what
it was, but nonetheless, you have a return, but you
have a return. Who's gonna win?
Speaker 5 (05:45):
You know, I'm gonna go kill Switch and Kip saving.
I think that.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
I think you're trying to really push the patriarchy.
Speaker 5 (05:55):
You're trying to and I think it's gonna add some ten.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
I think FTR is going to come out and call
and cost Cop and Cage to match. I think maybe
Coke fights with Dax Harwood and and Cash Wheeler and
take they take it into the crowd or something, and
he abandons Christian Cage, causing Christian Cage to basically lose
by himself. He's down three to one because uh, I
(06:21):
think Nick Wayne's going to interfere. I think Kick Savian
is going to get blows in. I think Mama Wayne's
going to get there, and of course Killswitch is going
to do his thing. But so I think that's going
to add more attention to cop and Cage, and you know,
can they trust each other as they go after the
taxing titles later on? At all out? So I think
Coping Cage take the loss here and build the patriarch
(06:43):
up a little bit.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
You know.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
The only way they lose if FTR comes out to
help them. But I just the pop they get if
they win. I have to go out of the tradition Cage,
I have to, I just don't. I mean, this is
what he does though. Tony Kahan love he brought somebody
in who's the guy he just introduced on was it Collision?
He had him a brand news sign and he's all
elite and then he lost like he always has people
(07:08):
like Josh Hauxen was one, but he just had someone
this past week. He just has people PROMI here and
then lose, Like what the heck are you doing? So
I can see it happening. But now I gotta go
with that of Copeland and Christian k Here.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
I'm gonna stick with ye.
Speaker 5 (07:21):
That's why I want to win.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
But I could just see I can see a scenario
if you want to continue, because Christian Kage acted like
he didn't want to be with Copeland anymore. He want
to be in this tag team. So there's obviously still
some tension there. Imagine if FTR does come out and
Coke fights him into the crowd, leading Christian Cage stranded
and can you trust him?
Speaker 5 (07:40):
So that's the only thing I can see.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
All right, what's next? The TNT Championship match.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
You got the champion Kyle Fletcher versus what is it,
Takahashi against Takahashi for the championship, TNA T and T Championship.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Who do you got?
Speaker 1 (07:59):
This is the only forbid door match, I think, Yeah,
well I guess Nick Sabers, Kyle Fletcher or Zach Saber.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Yeah, Kyle Fletcher.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
Yeah, I mean that's really it. I mean yeah, but
that no, no way stands or butts. Kyle Fletcher's getting the.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Win the end.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Zero percent chance Kyle Fletcher loses this match. That's why
he's going against Takahashi. So all right, next up here
it is, we got the TBS Championship in a four way.
We got Mercedes Monday versus Alex Windsor versus per Sephony
versus bo Zilla for Sephony?
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Did I say that right? Yeah, versus bo Zilla.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
I don't know why.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
That's like the hard name card, all right, but who
do you got?
Speaker 3 (08:45):
I have been really impressed with Alex Windsor since her
debut in ae W and repairing her with Tony Storm
has been a fantastic thing for her and getting us
excited about this match, And I'm also, believe it or not,
I'm gonna give the a little bit of credit. I
think putting Mercedes with Athena as kind of a little
bit of an alliance has done wonders for both of
(09:07):
them as well. Athenum's already that girl, but I think
it's helped Mercedes a little bit. But with that being said,
I think Mercedes gets to win here, and I don't
think she's dropping the titles anytime soon. She's not losing
back to back.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Peelis no, and this is another forbidden door match because
obviously Persafena is from CML and Bozilla's from stardom, so
this is a although the you know, everybody wrestles on you,
but the only person has a chance is Alex Windsor.
I don't think if she does win it, she'll win
it in a four way, So yeah, Mercedes Monday. This
looks like the easiest predicted match at the night it
(09:41):
she doesn't even look like she belongs Tony Storm.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
And it's kind of like, all right, the Tag Team
Championship is it a three way now? After a time
limit draw?
Speaker 1 (09:53):
And we got one Hurt Syndicate versus FTR versus Broddo.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Who do you got you had?
Speaker 3 (10:02):
You had a tournament, a tournament that you can't you
have the finals of a tournament that go to a
time limit draw. And so the answer is a triple threat.
You can't do overtime, you can't do like five more minutes.
Speaker 5 (10:14):
You know you have to do it.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
It's time them draw. I don't get it. I really
want the Hurt Syndicate to retain, but I think it's
I think these are FDR's titles to lose next month
at all out to coping cage. So I'm gonna say
FTR get the win. I think the Prodido takes the pin,
and yeah, I don't Maybe MJF costs the Hurt Syndicate
(10:37):
or something and we get that few going forward or something.
Speaker 5 (10:40):
I don't know, but FTR is gonna win.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
Yeah, man, that'd be like the Super Bowl ending in
an overtime draw like they just like ended after fifteen
minutes to go. Well, that's it, ty game, you're both
super Bowl champions. FTR one is winning. I think the
only reason why I was put into a three way
for this was so they can pin Brodido instead of
pinning the Hurt Syndicate. I think the Hurt Syndicate's gonna
move on to MJF. They eluded at it on Dynamite,
(11:05):
So yeah, FDR's time. They're the hottest tag team right now.
They're gonna win it and eventually lose it to one
coping Christian Cage in the future.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
So I got FTR winning it, and they deserve it.
They're doing some of their best work right now. Man.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
These teams turn into hills and they get so damn good.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
They really do. They really, and I'll give AW more credit.
I think the pairing of Broddo has has been fantastic
as well. I think they're proud, really taken to him,
and they've been They've been fun to watch, so I'm
excited about that. The tactics in an AW slowly slowly
starting to cook.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
I agree. I agree. What do you got next?
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Who you got the AEW Unified Championship. One Okata versus
one Swerve Strickland.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Who do you got? That's the hard one to predict
as well.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
Yeah, I'm gonna give it to Okada. There's rumblings out
there that Swarve Strickland has a knee injury and he
has to have some surgery and he's gonna miss miss
some time. And you know, this was something that happened
before all in, but he wanted to see the Hangman
page story through. So there's that's what the rumor mill
is saying. So I think, obviously this is the perfect
(12:11):
time for him to lose and Okada retains have all
eight thousand members of the don Kallis family beat up
Swerve as a way to write him off TV or something.
But I think it's gonna be a great match. I
can't wait for it. But I think O'cada wins just
based on the fact that Swerve could be heard.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Yeah, I'll bet on Okada until he loses, and he
never does, so I will forever bet on him until
that happens. So yeah, I got Ocada beaten sword of
Strickling and defending his AW Unified Championship.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Belt keeping the don Kallis family strong.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Yeah, all right, and main eventime we got through at
number nine. All right, we got one hangman, Adam Paige
defending his title against one MJF. MJF has talked himself
out of it. This is a no d. You can
win by DQ, you can win by help, you can
win by anything. And he is not giving up his contract,
but pretty much tells us that he's losing.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Who do you got?
Speaker 3 (13:10):
Yeah, Haman Page is winning. I don't know he's gonna
win through hell or high water. He's gonna find a
way to win. I like that they undid their mistake
this week with MJF not cashing in the contract. I
like that. You know, people were talking about how it
loose made the unpaid real week. I actually don't think
it did.
Speaker 5 (13:28):
I think it made him look dumb.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
I actually think you know, his whole character is that
he doesn't act on impulse anymore. He doesn't get angry
over things. But I like the added nugget that you know,
he did act impulsively, and he did act angrily towards
MJF this week, and it.
Speaker 5 (13:45):
Shows that he's flawed. He still has those flaws and
He's not.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
Perfect by any stretch, and I think that's a cool
character trait for Adam Paige to have. But Adam Bage
is gonna win. I don't know how he wins. I'm
sure somebody will help or even though technically if he
has help then m JF wins.
Speaker 5 (14:02):
So somehow, some.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
Way, Adam Page is gonna win. He's going to go
two and oh if it's in JF this.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
Year, is he's going to go to and oh, and
that's going to pay later on in the future. But
he will win and move on to other part people,
Darby Allen and so on, while MGF moves on to
Mark Brisco and the Hurt Syndicate, and he will have
a busy four or five months until he defeats Hangman
Page and cashes in and wins the World Championship and
(14:27):
gets back.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
His triple B.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
So this was the only right decision. And I think
after Tony con did it not just me, but I
think a lot of people talk about how stupid of
a decision it was, how quick it was, and I
think he realized that and thought, oh, that was a mistake,
let's get it back.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
So yeah, good call on that, and you.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
Know, yeah, if that's if that's true, and shout out
to him for listening to the crowd.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
Yeah, he usually does. He's definitely an Internet person. All right,
Oh sorry, that wasn't the main event. I forgot the
real main event. But technically it's not the main event
because a lights out stale cage match happens after the
lights are out. Will ast is not even allowed to
be in the damn match BRUV. But we got, you know,
basically the Death Writers versus Will Osprey and friends. You
guys can see everyone who's in the match, a whole
(15:08):
bunch of people.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Who do you got? You got Team Mox or you
got team will Osprey.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
Mmmm. This one's actually hard to predict. But I'm gonna
go team I'm gonna go Team mox. I think that
the Death Writers meeting, I think they're gonna I think
they need a big victory, and I think they need
to do something to Darby Allen. Darby Allen has been
getting the best of John Moxley over the last couple
of weeks now, and I think it's got to set
up for John. Moxley's got to get some revenge and
(15:37):
he's got to get some come ups against Darby Allen
for everything that he's done to him. So I think
this is how we get to Darby versus John Moxley
all Out in Canada next month. But I think, you know,
after losing the title at all In and then constantly
being you know, he's won a couple of matches on
Dynamite here and there, but I think John Moxley and
his team need a big victory. And I don't know.
(16:00):
Obviously it's a cage Master's you know, anything can go,
they can cheat to win. But I think this sets
us up for Darby Allen versus John Moxley at all Out,
which Darby Allen wouldn't win.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
Yeah, I like that call.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
I think it's gonna have something to do with will Osprey,
though I also think Team Moxley is gonna win. But
I think I think Will Ospray is injured and I
think he's whatever he wanted to do this match. Yeah,
I think he wanted to do this match, so I
think it's gonna take it really easy, but at some
point something's gonna happen. He's gonna get his butt beat
down and he's gonna take the pinfall and then be gone.
For a while and it will cost his team the match.
(16:35):
So yeah, I got team Box as well. Death Writers prevail.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Yeah, all right, yeah, I think Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
I was just gonna say, I think they need a
big victory and I think they'll get it and then
then they can go their separate ways.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
By the way, what's up with Gabe kid? We didn't
have time for Wheeler Uta? Or he's like good enough
to be Yeah, I don't care.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
Yeah cool, he hasn't even been on TV though. Let's
bring him back, will or you're not good enough?
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Get off my screen? All right?
Speaker 1 (17:09):
There it is nine for nine hopefully. Let us know
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