Dating in Your 30s: The Good, The Bad, and The "Did He Really Climb Through Her Window?"

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, we are back with another episode of Two
for the Culture.
This is Justin Devante.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
This is Stephen Ray.

Speaker 1 (00:07):
Yes, sir, we are back .
How you feeling?

Speaker 2 (00:09):
Feel good, feel good.
I feel like time is passingvery, very, very quickly.

Speaker 1 (00:14):
I know I think I'm with you, oh yeah, New chop.
Oh yeah, Right, right yeah yeah, yeah, got new chop, got right
right yeah, yeah, uh, yeah I gotnew chop, got lowered
significantly.
Yeah, I'm a whole new man outhere.
Yeah, uh, which I'm happy, I'mexcited about because one it
doesn't look bad yeah and two.

(00:34):
It's just I was tired of justmaintaining the hair and hair
all over the place, yeah, thenyou know it's greasy, I'm
touching my face, yeah, and it'sjust becoming a whole mess, so
it's just good to get kind ofrid of it.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
Yeah, do you feel different when you walk outside,
like when the air touches yourhead it hasn't hit yet.

Speaker 1 (00:54):
Yeah, yeah, it's gotta get cold, yeah exactly,
and by that time I'll be used tothe haircut too.
So yeah yeah, so it's probablya good uh time to cut off, but
it's been actually years oh yeahyears um, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:09):
When's the last time you had it?

Speaker 1 (01:11):
um, I would say like two, three years ago easily,
because if you, if I put it down, it was going to my shoulder,
oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
So yeah, I feel you.
Yeah, it looks good, looks likeyou got your shit together
exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:27):
And then not only that, it was um.
Now I'm seeing the gray hairspop up oh yeah, yeah, you didn't
see it before no, I was seeingthem, but now they're prevalent
yeah because it was hittingamongst the many.
So I'll see one occasionallyand I'll grab it like dang.
I'm getting them everywhere,but now I'm like, okay, they're
all about yeah but yeah, thatjust comes with time and you

(01:50):
know wisdom yeah, that's whatthey say gray hair is just
wisdom yeah, no, it is, andstress yeah that's really what
it is yeah, but no, buteverything's good and uh, so I
was just happy to get it doneand kind of get out the way.
Uh, yeah, so, and then it's hereso you can grow back if you
want to yeah lord willing, youwill see.
You know, I may not be able.

(02:10):
Yeah, yeah, the receding yeah,luckily my hair hasn't been
receding it doesn't look likeyou're gonna lose hair yeah,
yeah, but at the same time itcan always start in the back,
you know, back of the head, andgo out.

Speaker 2 (02:23):
It doesn't always start in the front.
It would be I don the back, youknow, back of the head and go
out.

Speaker 1 (02:25):
It would be I don't know you know, you have the back
of the head too.

Speaker 2 (02:28):
That can just start receiving uh-huh yeah, mine just
spins out.
Mine spins out since I was, orspun out since I was a kid,
because it's been receiving, see, I guess.

Speaker 1 (02:40):
So no, I'm just saying that's where it can start
.

Speaker 2 (02:43):
But I usually see when people's hair do that.
It's kind of like in the middleright here.

Speaker 1 (02:48):
Is your dad bald-headed?
Yeah, oh, okay.

Speaker 2 (02:51):
Yeah, but I hear it skips a generation.
I mean, I'm okay.
Like you know, if I go thatroute, I'm hitting the gym twice
a day, that ain't going to helpyour hair, though it's supposed
to once you do emphasis on theworkout you can do the little

(03:13):
spike.

Speaker 1 (03:13):
You know the hair prickle thing the hair prickle
thing yeah, yeah, where they dolike uh oh, go to turkey yeah,
yeah, exactly, I don't know whatyou call them though surgery,
yeah, and, and he got his gaptooth Hair transplant.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He's got his teeth fixed InTurkey too, his hair and his

(03:33):
teeth fixed.

Speaker 2 (03:34):
It's a bundle deal from the same nigga.

Speaker 1 (03:36):
Yeah, and he got a limousine ride to the hotel.

Speaker 2 (03:40):
Was the doctor, the limousine driver too.

Speaker 1 (03:42):
Nah, it was this lady .
He showed me the pictures,everything.
But when I tell you, five bandsfor.
Both five, five thousand foreverything.

Speaker 2 (03:50):
Yeah how does the doctor know how to do the hair
and the teeth?

Speaker 1 (03:55):
I don't know, but I mean that you can have an
electrician and a plumber too.
You know he can be all thosethings.

Speaker 2 (04:03):
These are years of experience.

Speaker 1 (04:05):
Maybe Some people have that years and are trained.

Speaker 2 (04:09):
He can do the teeth too.
Was it like normal lookingteeth or big veneered teeth?

Speaker 1 (04:17):
I don't know what they did.
He had a gap too.
I don't know how that worked.
He had a gap in between histeeth.
He got them closed in somehow.
Alright, yeah, I mean it'sscience bro.

Speaker 4 (04:31):
I don't know what to tell you.
I don't know how they did that.

Speaker 1 (04:33):
But when I said when he showed me the picture, I was
like I started to laugh Cause Iwas like this is your twin.
Yeah, yeah.
Oh.
And then he's like no, that'sme.
And I was like bruh, that ain'tyou.
I had to make sure I wasn'tcrazy and I looked up old
pictures.
Bruh, this man looked like adifferent person for real.

Speaker 2 (04:54):
For real.

Speaker 1 (04:55):
Yeah, yeah, without the plastic surgery.
Uh-huh, I was lost, literally.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
Damn.
So he looked.
He looked different.

Speaker 1 (05:07):
Now, yes, uh-huh, so so you must not have talked to
him in a while, or no?
I mean not only that, I, Italked to him.
We keep up with each other onlike a quarterly basis.
I would say uh-huh a coupletimes per year, but I mean, we
got instagram.
The pictures are night and day.
It's not like oh, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (05:21):
What's what's so night and day about?
Is it just the teeth?

Speaker 1 (05:24):
I don't know, bro, I don't know how to it literally
looks like a different person.
I'm not even kidding.
I'll show you when I stop usingmy phone as a camera.

Speaker 2 (05:32):
Yeah, okay.

Speaker 1 (05:33):
That's crazy.

Speaker 2 (05:34):
You know, I have a friend who did that too, both,
actually, but the one, the hairtransplant was in Turkey and
then the teeth was like in Miamior something.
Oh, okay, yeah, I'm thinkingabout getting my teeth done, not
really done, but like whitened.

Speaker 1 (05:52):
Oh, okay.

Speaker 2 (05:52):
And.

Speaker 1 (05:54):
I don't know.
Yeah, I'm not in a rush, I needthe bottom while we're here but
, I'm not in a rush to get noneof that stuff.

Speaker 2 (06:01):
Yeah, no, I'm definitely thinking about it,
I'm thinking about it.

Speaker 1 (06:04):
I got you, I got you.

Speaker 2 (06:05):
Yeah, might as well.
I gotta get this shit fixed.
I don't got 5,000 to givenobody.

Speaker 1 (06:09):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So I ain't giving nobody 5,000.
Yeah, not for that.

Speaker 2 (06:14):
Yeah, did you hear about the women that came from?
All the women that went tospace?

Speaker 1 (06:22):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, that are all the women that went
to space.

Speaker 2 (06:23):
Oh yeah, yeah, that shit is crazy.
They just like it's like a tripthat people go on now yeah and
then.

Speaker 1 (06:30):
But didn't the astronauts?
Didn't we just talk about theastronauts getting stuck in
space?
Yeah, those are like the realones though I mean, but yeah,
that that makes it even morescary because they do it for a
living yeah, that's what I'msaying.

Speaker 2 (06:42):
And then now people are just going up there at will.
It's kind of like um a vacation, you just book it you just go
go out of space and you comeback, come back already.
Yeah, oh, they're back uh-huhthat you only up there for like
I don't know how long you're upthere.
but it's very quick, yeah, youjust like float into the um,

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like basically on the edge orwhatever, just far enough to
where you still are in the, theuh atmosphere, the atmosphere,
you have the gravitational forceof earth, to where you're not
going anywhere and you justfloat in for a second and then
you come down.
So you come down and then it'slike two pairs of parachutes or
something like that, and then,like on the video, you could

(07:29):
hear them while it was goingdown and then when the first
parachute came out, usually andthe second one comes out, like
they did not know if they wasgonna live or die, like, like
clearly, but that is crazy, Ihave to watch that video because
that actually seems hilarious,because I know Gayle.
King and.

Speaker 1 (07:49):
Jeff Bezos' fiance was on there.

Speaker 2 (07:51):
Yep, katy Perry.
Okay, katy Perry was on.
It's just like people justgoing to space.

Speaker 1 (07:57):
Who was the pilot, or whatever I don't know yeah.

Speaker 2 (08:01):
I don't know, that's crazy.
I wonder how much concessionsare on there.
Probably like $100 for a bottleof water, you know how, like on
a plane.

Speaker 1 (08:13):
Right, yeah, yeah, yeah, or you could just wait.

Speaker 2 (08:18):
Yeah, you could just wait.
But, I mean it would be cool tolike do something or like have
a shot of something while you'reup there, just like bro.
Just mean it would be cool tolike do something or like have a
shot of something while you'reup there, just like bro, just to
do it.

Speaker 1 (08:29):
I don't even know if I want to, I'm not going.
No, okay, yeah, I'mhypothetical Free.
Yeah, all right, so I'll justpass it off to you Okay, okay,
no, I didn't know if it wasbecause of the expense of it, no
, okay.

Speaker 2 (08:46):
I don't jump to things where off the first try
you could die.

Speaker 1 (08:51):
Okay, so did we talk about A little bit Bungee
jumping.
Yeah, did we talk about thathere.

Speaker 2 (08:58):
I don't know if we just expanded upon it, but yeah,
bungee jumping, jumping,jumping out of a plane scuba
diving.
I really don't fuck with scubadiving have you been?

Speaker 1 (09:09):
it's beautiful.
Have you did it?
Yes, okay not not likeprofessionally, but like I stuck
my head up on water, but it waslike on vacation, some group
thing, they just they.

Speaker 2 (09:22):
They go a little bit farther out and then you see the
coral, the reef, the fish andall that stuff.
You go down you can see it.

Speaker 1 (09:33):
Okay, so you put a wetsuit on though.
Yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, yeahDid you have oxygen tank or you
had the little.

Speaker 2 (09:39):
No, it wasn't oxygen tank.
Okay, you just hold your breath.

Speaker 1 (09:46):
If you go down a little bit far enough, yeah, but
you get the little weak ass.
I don't know, I ain't never didnone of that.

Speaker 2 (09:50):
Yeah, the, the little , the oxygen that goes up above
water, like you're gonna reallyjust stay right here the whole
time.

Speaker 1 (09:55):
Oh, okay, okay, so you got the little snorkel joint
.
Yeah, it does not go up thatthis is like right here.
Oh yeah, so you can't evenfucking move oh you really can't
go down here for real okay, sothat's, that's groupon worthy,
though you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (10:10):
Yeah, yeah but it was beautiful though.
It was beautiful, but I just donot like.
I don't like that groupons arein jamaica it wasn't in jamaica.
It was what was that.

Speaker 1 (10:23):
It was in puerto rico okay, I didn't know, groupons
was international.

Speaker 2 (10:28):
Actually I don't think it was a Groupon.
Maybe it was a Groupon, I don'tknow, it was just some
excursion thing, some excursion.
I just don't like it'sbeautiful, but I also don't like
things where the escape planisn't concrete.

Speaker 1 (10:48):
What do you mean?

Speaker 2 (10:49):
If a shark is coming, what the fuck?

Speaker 1 (10:52):
Right, swim faster.
You're dead.
It's over.

Speaker 2 (10:57):
The escape plan is done.
You cannot get to the fuckingboat that fast.
And then when you're underthere, even though it's clear,
you still cannot see past acertain point.
So if a shark is coming 30miles an hour, it's over.
You're going to see that shitby the time you turn around.

Speaker 1 (11:18):
It's here they say punch him in the nose.

Speaker 2 (11:22):
Fuck around, lose an arm.
That's what they told me.
No, that's no, that's that.
Shit scared me.
Yeah, but sharks don't likehumans.

Speaker 1 (11:31):
Humans so if they attack, tell the niggas that
died yeah, yeah.
Well, I'm saying you they'll,they'll they're more curious, is
what I hear and they'll attackyou.
Think you're something else?
But then when they text you,they don't want you was pretty
much done by then it's not likea bear.
A bear will kill you like I'mtrying to kill you, a shark will

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just take your arm off yeah,yeah, yeah, yeah good intentions
this woman shark, who lost herarm to a shark.
She said it felt like an orgasm.
Yeah, she belong out there.
I don't know what that likewhen you lose your arm.

(12:16):
It's like euphoric in some way.

Speaker 2 (12:19):
Yeah, because you're dying I don't know.
You're losing a lot of blood,so I'm sure it's you for it.

Speaker 1 (12:25):
I think it's just the swiftness of it.
The swiftness of it.

Speaker 2 (12:29):
Yeah, yeah, your arm detaching from your body.

Speaker 1 (12:32):
You know, like if you cut a head, snake off and it's
still alive and it's somehowattached to its body still even
though its head is still moving,yeah yeah yeah.

Speaker 2 (12:46):
I don't know.
I went to the dentist one timeand got an extraction and he
pulled the tooth out and I swearto god, I could feel the tooth
crackling.
I could feel it crackling likeit.
I can feel it crackling Like Ican feel it being pulled out of
my skull.

Speaker 1 (13:07):
You could hear it.
I know what you're talkingabout.
Yeah, but you're numb.

Speaker 2 (13:12):
Yeah, I was numb.
I mean, yeah, I was numb, butlike I still felt I could feel
like something was being crackedoff yeah.
Yeah, so like how old were you?

Speaker 1 (13:22):
29, 30.
So last year, a couple yearsago, yeah, so like.

Speaker 2 (13:24):
How old were you?
29, 30.

Speaker 1 (13:27):
So last year, a couple years ago?
Yeah, yeah, I got it.
Yeah, a couple years ago.

Speaker 2 (13:31):
But I'm just saying like there wasn't no euphoric
feeling Like something was beingripped apart, so a whole arm.
Yeah, I said the swiftness ofit.

Speaker 1 (13:40):
That wasn't swift.
He was, you know, there andthere Planting his feet to the
ground and tugging on it.
You know of it, that wasn'tSwift.
He was, you know, damn nearputting his feet to the ground
and tugging on it, you know.
Holding your head back and youknow then pulling on it.
Yeah, that's different.
It would be different ifsomebody was like pulling on her
arm, like if she had.

Speaker 2 (13:57):
Like a shark.

Speaker 1 (13:58):
No, no, like if she had two vehicles attached to
both her arms and was rippingthem off Now.
That would be swift, that wouldhurt.

Speaker 2 (14:09):
I could see if both of them, if both of the cars,
went 0-60 in a certain amount oftime frame.

Speaker 1 (14:19):
Are you victim shaming right now?
I'm just saying that.

Speaker 2 (14:22):
I don't know how a shark can clean a person's arm
like like, just clean, do thatshit fast as hell to where
you're like oh, this is euphoricversus like it's it has to tug,
because it can only swim therazor shark so you're just
saying voop is off, yeah, I meanthey're huge creatures.

Speaker 1 (14:43):
I mean it's different if you got like a, like a
hammerhead, and maybe they'renot as powerful, but if you got
a great white brother, greatwhite sharks yeah, you still got
.

Speaker 2 (14:52):
This is meant for grazing bro, you're guessing.

Speaker 1 (14:58):
I'm saying what she's .

Speaker 2 (14:59):
Anytime I've seen a shark eat somebody.
Them motherfuckers are likethis in the water.

Speaker 1 (15:05):
See him eat anybody.
It's clips out there.

Speaker 2 (15:09):
I don't think you've seen what you're talking about
I've definitely seen clipsbefore where somebody uh got bit
by a shark and then wherethere's just gnawing on them,
nah, not just gnawing on them,but like their body definitely
was moving.

Speaker 1 (15:21):
You never saw that before I mean, you just saw a
shark just like, and then, allof a sudden, they didn't have an
arm?
I ain't seen none of either.
Yeah, yeah, I'm just sayingwhat her story was.
It wiped it clean off.
I think that's very.

Speaker 2 (15:36):
I think that's very true she goes to the beach
reminiscing and shit yeah, Imean they say that like, uh,
what's what?

Speaker 1 (15:43):
like, what's the laughing hyenas?
Yeah, they say the hyenas havepowerful jaws that can break
down bone.
Those are just regulardog-looking, you know,
mediocre-sized creatures.
A great white is completelydifferent.
Those are the apex predators,damn near of the ocean.

Speaker 2 (16:07):
Hmm, yeah damn near Okay so maybe, yeah, you
probably, yeah, you probably,maybe, yeah, I could sort of see
it, depending on the person.
Yeah, yeah yeah.

Speaker 1 (16:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (16:17):
They got like fragile ass.

Speaker 1 (16:19):
I mean yeah, yeah, and she was a kid at the time
too.

Speaker 2 (16:22):
Oh, yeah, oh.

Speaker 1 (16:22):
But yeah, and she was a kid at the time too, oh yeah,
oh.
But I mean, I think it stillcould rip up a man's arm off
instantly.

Speaker 2 (16:30):
Yeah, I'm definitely underestimating, like, the power
of it, but it does seem.
If I were to think about it, itdoes seem like the whole body
of the shark is a muscle.
Like it's working that outforever.

Speaker 1 (16:44):
I mean, yeah, I mean it's a predator to the highest
degree, Because crocodiles, theydo that twist of death and rip
your body apart.
Yeah, yeah.
What do you think a shark cando?
And they have razor's hell ofteeth and they constantly grow.
You know what I?
Mean yeah, I didn't know that Ididn't know that.

Speaker 2 (17:04):
I haven't seen anybody like really get fucked
up off of a crocodile.
Did you see that movie?
That one time I forgot the nameof the movie Crawl Did you ever
see that yeah, it was like acrocodile movie.
It was like a crocodile in abasement.
That man was big as fuck.
Oh man no no, no, no, I justthought of it.

Speaker 1 (17:24):
Nah, because it's funny how we got here.
We was talking about just scubadiving and stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (17:29):
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

Speaker 1 (17:32):
So bungee?
We said, bungee jumping is a no.

Speaker 2 (17:34):
I don't like any of that stuff.
I feel like I'm afraid to falldeeply in love with a woman and
she wants to do some crazy shitand then I just do it with her.

Speaker 1 (17:50):
Oh, I will watch.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (17:55):
How about you.
I've done it before.
That's what I'm saying.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (17:59):
Well, not, not like nothing crazy like that, but it
was just like a cliff and thenshe jumped off and I was like
what, what the?
But then she was okay, shejumped off a cliff.
She jumped off.
Yeah, first I'm like I ain'tjumping off this mother into a
body of water to a body of water.
Okay, there you go me and heraren't together anymore so she

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killed herself, yeah yeah,herself she had a bad day but
yeah, yeah, yeah she.

Speaker 1 (18:33):
She really desperately wanted to get away
from you all right.

Speaker 2 (18:37):
So we won't be going back, at least I won't no, I
know.

Speaker 1 (18:40):
So she jumped off like a waterfall yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (18:43):
Yeah, it was a waterfall.
That is still scary very much.
Yeah, she was like two storieshigh.

Speaker 1 (18:48):
Okay, so it was like a house.

Speaker 2 (18:52):
Basically, but like yeah, two stories.

Speaker 1 (18:54):
Did she know the depth of the water?

Speaker 2 (18:57):
Yeah, we went with a guy.

Speaker 1 (18:59):
So he did it first.

Speaker 2 (19:00):
No, he didn't Okay, which is why I didn't do it.

Speaker 1 (19:04):
I'm like all right, you do it.
So I'm just saying did you knowhow it was?
Like damn, this is actuallywaist deep, or whatever.

Speaker 2 (19:13):
Um, I could tell by when she jumped.

Speaker 1 (19:16):
No, I'm just saying did she know, did y'all know, or
was he was just telling us that, oh you could, it's actually 10
feet deep yeah, oh, okay, yeah,he was just telling us.

Speaker 2 (19:26):
You know, people do this all the time, I can show
you pictures.
And I was like I'm not doingthis.
And then she did it.
And then, um, yeah, she did it,she came out, okay, and then I
was like now I look like a hoe,so, and he didn't make it any

(19:47):
better and I was like, man, fuckthis dude, what did he say he
was just like oh, come on, yougirl do it.

Speaker 1 (19:58):
You don't want to do it, so he's not this is not
Puerto Rico, it's Puerto Rico.

Speaker 2 (20:03):
I forgot his accent.
I just knew he had an accent Ijust had to throw something on
there, okay, because that soundsvery real he was easy, yeah, so
yeah, he said that shit and I'mlike man, fuck this nigga.
And she was coming up therewhile he was saying it, so he

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made sure he said it while shecould hear.

Speaker 1 (20:27):
Oh, he hated her.

Speaker 2 (20:29):
Yeah, man, and I just knew she was okay At first,
like how she felt was veryclumsy.
It was very like I knew I couldlike do this jump better than
she can.
I just didn't want to do it.
But, seeing that she was okayand all that, I just like went
for it and I just rememberfalling for a long ass fucking

(20:51):
time to where, like you know howyou think you have control of
your body, falling and shit.
It reached some point on thatfall where I did not have
control and the whoo turned intomama bro, I never screamed like

(21:15):
that before ever.
It was like I swear to god, Iwas like splash and I was like
yo so you didn't do it twice no,yeah, I came up and I was like,

(21:38):
oh my god it was, and you know,after it's over, it's like damn
like that was crazy, that waslike it is a like exhilarating
feeling it really is.
You really feel what it feelslike to be alive Like you do.
So you know yeah.
But I just remember doing thatthat one time and I don't know

(22:04):
man, I don't know if I'll beable to do that.
I don't know man, I don't knowif I'll Be able to do that.
I don't know that, cause theother ones are extreme Bunchy
jumping.
I can't do that.
I'll barely do a helicopterride now.

Speaker 1 (22:19):
Barely do a helicopter ride, mmhmm.
Yep.

Speaker 2 (22:23):
Somebody else just.

Speaker 1 (22:24):
I'll do a helicopter ride you done?
Ithmm, somebody else justpassed.
I'll do a helicopter ride IfI'm in Nashville.
I'm spooked.
I'm not spooked, I'll do ahelicopter ride.
It's still like a plane Forreal.

Speaker 2 (22:39):
Yeah, I'm kind of spooked on that.
I was okay with it at first,but uh, nah, the helicopter shit
.
I just feel like it's notreally it.

Speaker 1 (22:53):
Yeah, I'll do it, but I'm I lean towards why.
What do you mean?
What am I?
How does it serve me?
As in the helicopter yeah, likeI'd rather it be like going
from one destination to anotherversus doing it for fun oh okay,

(23:14):
so not like a date like I woulddo it because I'm sure that's
what my girlfriend would want todo.
yeah, but for me I'm like howdoes this really serve me for
real, like some things, I'm thattype of boring person.
I can Google this and get acomprehensive understanding of

(23:36):
what would happen if I'm on it,so why would I then just enjoy
it?
You know, what.

Speaker 2 (23:41):
I mean as in, like you don't.

Speaker 1 (23:44):
Like I can envision what I'm gonna see and I'm just
high in the air seeing thingslike I am in a plane yeah you're
just like what's the point?
Yeah, yeah, exactly but, ifit's like hey, bro, you know
it's an emergency and you needto go to this helicopter to get
you know to miss traffic uh yeah, okay, that makes sense.

Speaker 2 (24:03):
I'll take a helicopter ride yeah, I can see
that I'll still be spooked.
Yeah, somebody, just excuse me.
Somebody, um, literally, justuh, like it was just some crash
like a couple days ago, yeah,and this dude like he traveled
to new york, uh, to I don't know, like chase's dreams of flying,

(24:25):
and and then like he littered,like that happened yeah I, I had
a class with a girl who died.

Speaker 1 (24:32):
Damn, she was up because we had mtsu.
You have the business in theaerospace building, so a lot of
the aerospace guys have samesimilar classes, and I was, yeah
, she um like crashed into likea mountain or something like
that when was that years ago, Imean like we was living in
murphysburg, type of thing andshe was she was a pilot.

Speaker 2 (24:56):
She was um driving.
It was it called driving it?

Speaker 1 (25:00):
uh flying flying it.

Speaker 2 (25:02):
Yeah, yeah.
I'm like what?
What's the word?

Speaker 1 (25:05):
I was just going to agree Like yeah, I think so.
But yeah, she was flying,correct.
Yeah, and then not too recentlylast year, they had a guy.
He was flying from Canada tohere and his plane broke down or
whatever, and it crashed inNashville Like right next to the
interstate in the woods orwhatever, with his family his

(25:29):
whole family and then theyshowed him communicating with
the airport we have the runwayclear for you.
He's like I'm not going to makeit.
And then you get to hear it andit was like I'm about to die
and kill my whole family causelike, yeah, there's nothing we

(25:51):
can do.
Yeah, I drove by.
I drove by there just like itwas just like a big pit of
flames and I was like what'sgoing on here?
And then I saw people likeoutside and stuff looking at it.
I was like what's going on here.
Then I saw people like outsideand stuff looking at it.
I was like this ain't normal,clearly, and then found out it
was him was it a small plane?

(26:14):
Yeah.
I hear a lot about small planesgoing down more than the bigger
ones yeah, that was just sad tosee, so I'm yeah, I don't need
to like the little Indian planething, I'm cool with just flying
commercially mm-hmm yeah, no, Idefinitely see that a lot of

(26:37):
people have a lot of privateplanes too, but they'd be like
big as hell yeah, what I see.
You tell me, like the floor,move with the joints yeah, yeah,
that would not be cool you saidwho drake?

Speaker 2 (26:48):
oh yeah um the kardashians yeah, ross, yeah,
has his went away or some.
What happened?

Speaker 1 (26:58):
to it, you telling me .

Speaker 2 (26:59):
something happened to it, yeah, it disappeared or
something, something, somethingcrazy happened to it, yeah it
disappeared or something.

Speaker 1 (27:04):
Something crazy happened to it.
Yeah, everybody that crossedyour path ended up.
No, I'm just talking.

Speaker 2 (27:08):
Just kind of fucked up.

Speaker 1 (27:10):
Yeah, yeah yeah, I don't, man, I'm scared of
fucking flying bro, I really am,but you fly fairly often though
.

Speaker 2 (27:17):
Not anymore.

Speaker 1 (27:19):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (27:20):
But I do want to get out though.
Not going to lie, Get out whereI want to go to Miami, Dallas
and back to LA.
Atlanta's just gonna be a given.
Well, yeah, and you're gonnafly to Atlanta, yeah.

Speaker 1 (27:35):
I'll just drive to Atlanta, but what's in Dallas?

Speaker 2 (27:38):
I just want to see what's there.
I just feel like somethingmakes me feel like I can be
there and feel like I kind ofbelong in a way.
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (27:54):
Huh, is there something you've seen on
Instagram?

Speaker 2 (27:59):
Not necessarily on Instagram, Maybe just like the
type of people that come out ofthere.
I don't know man.
I feel like it's like Atlanta,but like less dangerous.
It's dangerous everywhere.

Speaker 1 (28:15):
I think it's probably just as dangerous in Dallas.

Speaker 2 (28:18):
You think just as.

Speaker 1 (28:19):
I think so.

Speaker 2 (28:22):
Well, I still think I'd rather do Dallas to do it
later.

Speaker 1 (28:29):
But I do love LA that .

Speaker 2 (28:31):
Just think that Dallas is big as hell for you
probably you haven't been likeoutside of the airport.

Speaker 1 (28:39):
No, mmm, but you've been outside the airport right
and down for like five minutesoutside of it yeah, going to a
hotel you didn't want to get outat all.

Speaker 2 (28:49):
Uh, no it was like my flight got canceled and they
just thankfully I forgot whichairline it was, but they, they
comped me a hotel for the night.

Speaker 1 (29:08):
Sounds like it wasn't Spirit.

Speaker 2 (29:10):
Yeah right.

Speaker 1 (29:11):
Right.

Speaker 2 (29:12):
I was thinking it was Spirit, but I'm like, nah, they
comped me a hotel, yeah yeahyeah, so.
I don't know oh yeah, that'swhen I was working for.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, I was working for somepeople.
It was like some politicalstuff.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah and then,yeah, they had comped that for
me, so that was dope, but likeeverything was closed in there

(29:33):
so it had to be like 12 or 1 inthe morning when I got there.

Speaker 1 (29:37):
Oh, okay, right so.

Speaker 2 (29:41):
Well, it could have been the bar you went to.
Yeah, I did go to a bar theyhad a bar downstairs.

Speaker 1 (29:43):
Oh, that's not what I meant, though.
Oh well, it was still cool itwas still cool.

Speaker 2 (29:47):
You know, this shit was cheap as fuck.
Like that's when I realizedwhat it was to be um single for
real, like going out, like it'samazing, um, like having, uh, a
girl and you're constantly goingoutside and constantly like
paying for things, I agree it'stotally different.

(30:10):
But then I'm saying like, on topof that, I was in LA, so drinks
and all that shit was like alot more.
The parking, everything wasjust more compared to everywhere
else that I've been.
So it was just crazy.
That was the first time Ireally understood, because I was

(30:30):
like recently single, excuse me, when I got there.
So I was recently single and itwasn't in la, and it was this
bar, this hotel, and then thebill came.
I'm like man, this is amazing.
This shit was like 30 somedollars.
I was like whoa yeah that'sbruh.

(30:51):
That ain't nothing but a little,a little.
Uh, netflix charge wellnowadays, yeah right, no, I
totally, I totally agree withyou in terms of being single and
how cheap it is to do thingsit's incredibly cheap bro, like
you could order anything and Ihave to even, you know well, I

(31:15):
mean, I do want to um, um, stayin an abundance mindset but,
it's just, it's just it'stotally, it's totally different,
yeah, completely different yeah, I mean, it's not.

Speaker 1 (31:27):
It's literally night day yes, yeah, yeah because I
was like I don't remember beinggoing the movie.
We went to the movies.

Speaker 3 (31:35):
I was like the movie's expensive yeah, I was
like damn this shit expensive,yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (31:41):
I was like I don't remember the movies being this
expensive did you go?
It's not really that expensiveuh did you go to?
Just the whole night added upoh, the facts yeah yeah yeah,
because you spend definitely 200.
It was like 170 for the mealfor both of us that's inside the
movie theater.
No, hell, no, no, no, no.

(32:02):
I'm saying like.

Speaker 2 (32:03):
There are movie theaters, that where you can
like order food yeah, yeah, I'mnot, not the concessions thing,
yeah right yeah, it's not thatextravagant.

Speaker 1 (32:12):
They just got a bar at the movie theater, yeah, cuz
this movie date is attached tothe mall too.
Right, right, but no, so wewent to the restaurant this,
right, yeah, what's Fridaycalled Lyra which was good I
enjoyed it, but then that was170.
Then the movie tickets was like40-something for both of us,

(32:36):
and then we had a bottle ofalcohol.

Speaker 2 (32:39):
Y'all snuck it in.
No, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 1 (32:41):
We had drunk it before and then after.

Speaker 2 (32:47):
Oh, okay, I slept with drinking before a movie.

Speaker 1 (32:48):
Okay, I'm going to sleep uh well, we took like a.
I took two shots, so it's notsleepable yeah, and then um, and
then yeah, so the, the, thebottle was like $40.
The movie was like $40.
And then the dinner was $170.

(33:13):
So, yeah, I add up all thatshit real quick.
Yeah, it's like, bro, this islike.

Speaker 2 (33:19):
We're not going out next weekend.
Yeah, you said what we're notgoing out next weekend.

Speaker 1 (33:23):
Oh for sure, yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure, yeah,
because I don't we're not goingout next weekend.
Oh for sure, yeah, yeah, yeah,for sure, yeah, because I don't
even like the idea of doing that, because I even go into work
and work is like, yeah, so getyour hair done, it's not going
to be by me.
Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
So you were like we got to pick.
You know you got to pick yourbattles and choose what you
wanna get done.

(33:43):
Yeah, or we going to Chili'sfor real, uh huh yeah, that's
how I say it in my head yeahyeah, yeah that's too funny.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's like wegonna have Chili's, but then
I'll be going to Chili's andI'll be like the bill be ran up.
I'll be like bruh this Chili'sbruh this some shit, yeah me
neither but I.

(34:04):
I assume that's what happenedbecause we went to this like
nonchalant country bar and thebill was more than I like 75
dollars.
Uh-huh, like I'm not.
I'm mad that it's displaced,like the feed is supposed to be
like eight bucks bro you know,oh, I know what you're talking
about.

Speaker 2 (34:18):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, um uh, but no, it's different.
Yeah, definitely different.

Speaker 1 (34:23):
No, so we had went to uh the movies and called and
saw the stop.
I think that's what it'sdifferent.
Yeah, no, so we had went to themovies and call it, saw the
stop.
I think that's what it's calledthe stop.
I'm sure I'm saying it wrong,but it's like either the go or
stop or don't stop or somethinglike that.
Okay, so pretty much I wasn'tmad at the movie, though I would
go out because I want to seesinners.

Speaker 2 (34:43):
Yes, but yeah, yeah, I think it might be way better
than what I'm thinking, thatit's starting to give that
because they're going way toohard with the marketing for the
marketing, yeah, this one had nomarketing oh yeah, I don't even
know where my girlfriend foundit at, but she was telling
everybody and it soundedinteresting.

Speaker 1 (35:00):
So pretty much what it's about.
It's about um a lady.
She goes out for the first time.
She's um, she was a victim ofdomestic violence and she goes
out on her date for the firsttime and during the date she's
receiving messages from um, anunknown person, um telling her

(35:23):
she, you know, you're about tohave a terrible night and and
she's like, okay, somebody'splaying with me.
And then they use her name,violet.
You're going to have a terriblenight and it's like how do you
know my name?
Because apparently it's thisapp like.
It's like a um android app.
It's it's probably some made-upshit, but android app that you
can just airdrop things to aperson's phone uh-huh within a

(35:47):
50 yard or 50 meters ohokay, yeah.
So it's somebody within therestaurant.
And so then they say they say,hey, kill your date, or we kill
your son.
And then she's like okay, she'slike you know.
Then she's like, look at yoursecurity camera.

(36:07):
Then there's a guy at her house, yeah, yeah and, and he's like
waving his gun and, uh, her, theson and the his, his, her
sister's downstairs or isupstairs.
So he's like, oh, so somebody'sat my house.
She's like you gotta kill yourdate.
You're like, and so he's like,oh, somebody's at my house.
She's like you got to kill yourdate, and so he's telling her to

(36:28):
do assignments.
But any time she's like doingsomething like he knows, like
somehow he's seeing cameras,somehow he's hearing her voice.
Like she tried to go to likehey, he's a, because the dude's
a, a photographer.
He like, take his sd card andbreak it in the bathroom.
So she goes to the bathroom andshe tries to sign for help like

(36:52):
ask somebody for help, enlisted.
He's like don't be stupid,don't ask them for help.
And then, so how are theyseeing her?
So apparently there's like, um,like he uh bugged the bathroom.
Oh, do you want me to uh, to uh, give away the plot?
and everything I thought youwere oh okay, I was gonna stop

(37:13):
there it reminds me a lot ofthis movie I made with rob.

Speaker 2 (37:18):
Okay, yeah, but uh-huh and um.

Speaker 1 (37:20):
So, um, what do you?
What do you say before you giveup?
Give away, um, no spoilers.
Yeah, yeah, exactly, spoileralert, alert.
Spoiler alert, yeah, yeah, um,yeah, so comes to find out.
So she's originally she, it's,it's a date, it's uh, through
one of the apps, um, so shemeets a couple people before the
date comes.

(37:41):
He's running late.
You know one guy she bumps intoand he's like, oh funny, but
yeah, this is our second timebumping into each other.
She thinks it's him who's doingit.
It's not um.
But then there's another guywho's on a blind date and, um,
he's kind of off in this corneror whatever.
The blind date.

(38:01):
You can say like you're a jerk,you're an asshole, and she
walks off.
But he was already saying hownervous he was for the blind
date.
So, uh, when that happens, uh,the bartender, she's like burnt
is everything okay.
Because she's like clearlypanicking throughout the date
because she, he has her doingdifferent assignments, like, hey

(38:22):
, you gotta spike his drink, youknow, you gotta.
Uh, you gotta break his sd card, you gotta do this and that.
So she's like you know, ofcourse.
And so the bartender is likewhat's wrong?
Um, she's like you know, it'sjust um so, and so she's making
up an excuse.
She's like oh, okay, becauseyou know it's funny how that

(38:43):
happened, because that guy whohad that bad day, he been
staring at you all night, yeah,yeah.
And then she goes to him and islike I know you're sending me
the pictures, I'm paraphrasing.
And then he's like no, I'm not.
And she's like yes, you are.
He's like Violet, no, I'm not.
And then she's like how do youknow my name?

(39:05):
Never told you my name.
Yeah, he's like.

Speaker 2 (39:07):
Uh, he caught me he's like that whole beat in my head
went from like a certain amountof stars to one as soon as okay
, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah it's,it's cool though it's not like
the best movie ain't like a badmovie.

Speaker 1 (39:29):
It could be better.
Yeah, because a lot of it'sbullshit.
You're like you can't plan thatwell.
Yeah, so they could have easilyhad not planned to go to that
date and went somewhere else.
You know what I mean.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
He's like I've been planningthis for weeks.
He's like how do you know allthis?
So he's like sit down.
And then she's like blah, blah,sit.

(39:49):
And then she sits down.
He's like, yeah, thatphotographer, he actually works
for the mayor, he's an FBIinformant and you got to kill
him before his trial, otherwisewe kill your son.
And so he gave her the bow andthen he was like I'm playing
chess not, you know, this ischess, not Yahtzee because she's

(40:11):
a therapist, because she's beena therapist since she went
through her domestic violencecase.
He's like the pills youdescribed to your patients is
what's in there plus fentanyl.
You know, yeah, yeah, so you'regoing to go down for this.
And so a part of it was he hadtold her to pour it in that shot

(40:32):
.
So it looked like she did pourit in the shot.
But then when the dude came tothe table he saw them sitting.
He's like what's going on?
And then she's like no cheersto a good night.
And then he's like I'm good,and he's like no cheers, cheers.
And so he takes a shot.
While he takes a shot, the theuh villain looks at him.
She pours it in his dessert.

(40:54):
And then, um, and then he takesa shot.
He walks back to the table.
He's like now, call your manoff.
This is the dumb ass part.
She's like call your man off.
And then he's like, okay, she,he took the shot, you can leave.
And then, and then he startseating, eating the uh dessert.
And then that's when they show.

(41:15):
Then she's like, yeah, he'slike this dessert tastes amazing
, I'm going to have it to myself.
And uh, she's.
And then he starts like kind ofcoughing a little bit.
You know, yeah, yeah, yeah, youknow you're gonna go down for
this is gonna be great.
And then that's when she tellshim I poured that in your
dessert and he's like you, bitch, you're my man hasn't left yet,

(41:38):
and so he calls him to comekill her, kill the son and the
sister oh uh, like bro you, whydid you snitch on you?
And so he pulls out his pistol.
Tried to kill her in front ofthe restaurant.
Uh, he dies, whatever.
But then she has to go to thehouse right and and kill the
nigga.
So she never called the policeuh yeah, yeah, yeah.

(42:02):
And so she goes to the houseand saves her sister and her
brother and her son doesn't healready know, though, what the
guy at the house?

Speaker 2 (42:09):
doesn't he already know that?

Speaker 1 (42:11):
yeah, yeah yeah, but he suck, I mean he are uh.
So during that time he alreadybeats, uh, knocks out his, the
daughter and pins the son in thebedroom.
Yeah so, so he never reallykilled him, but they already
knew.
So she, the sister, kind ofawakened from getting knocked
out.
And so she kind of tries tofight him off.

(42:31):
She gets shot.
The son runs away in themeantime and hides, and then she
comes in the house and saveshim.

Speaker 2 (42:41):
Okay, so how was it over?
What do you rate it?

Speaker 1 (42:44):
I give it about a six and a half.
Six and a half, yeah, yeah,give it six and a half, six and
a half.
Yeah, yeah, give me six and ahalf seven.
It wasn't a bad watch.
I know I described it terribly.

Speaker 2 (42:53):
No, I got it, I got it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, about a sixand a half.

Speaker 1 (42:57):
Yeah, yeah, I would watch it again.

Speaker 2 (43:00):
Oh, you would.

Speaker 1 (43:01):
Yeah, Because it was a lot of little cool things
about it, but it was just like,of course, hella unrealistic
because a lot of stuff it's like, bro, you're going to call
somebody.
Oh yeah.
Yeah, you're going to call one.
Yeah, you're going to call thepolice at some point to say hey,
definitely you're not going tosnitch and let them know that

(43:23):
you put that in his drinkbecause that was like I would
have left it alone.
You know that you put that inhis drink because that was like
I would left it alone.
You didn't need to know that hewas going to die before he died
uh-huh, yeah, yeah exactly,yeah, yeah.
So she very much got uh and oh,in the meantime she uh, the
pianist she had wrote on a on adollar bill um, you know, save

(43:46):
me, type of thing.
And to the pianist, he pouredthe drink in his drink and he
got her, the pianist killed.

Speaker 2 (43:52):
So that's really the only besides the villains the
only person who died um okay soyeah, yeah, that, yeah, it
reminds me a lot of this thing Imade with um, the, with rob.
Uh, the only difference was,like the, the, the woman had to
kill her family, rob.
The only difference was thewoman had to kill her family.
Was it her family?
No, the woman had to kill theneighbor's family because in her

(44:15):
ear there were some people thatneeded him dead.
Basically, and they had her kidabout to kill him.
It was a little similar whenyou said that I'm surprised you
haven't heard about um blackmirror, though black mirror is
like going no, I heard aboutblack mirror.

Speaker 1 (44:32):
I just never seen any episodes because black mirror
has been around for a while yeah, well, and I'm lying.
I've seen an episode or twoabout black mirror because,
black.

Speaker 2 (44:44):
It has different cast each episode right uh, yeah
yeah, it's like every episode isa new thing yeah, because I had
the one with ethony mackie yeahyeah, when he was playing the
video game, when he was havingsex with his friend yes yeah,
that's very weird to me.
On the motor, on the motorcombat stage, yeah, um, yeah,

(45:05):
yeah yeah, that did happen.
It was a very weird episode,but I mean, yeah, it's weird, I
don't know it's weird, but it'samazing though I mean it's still
good, but it makes me feelweird, At least that certain
episode does.
Right right, yeah, all theother episodes it's different,

(45:28):
everything is different.
Yeah, so it's pretty dope andit's a dope watch.

Speaker 1 (45:32):
And they had to find out like am I gay for real?
You know?

Speaker 2 (45:37):
Yeah, I do.
It's coming back to me.
Yeah, and then.

Speaker 1 (45:40):
Yeah, and they found out they wasn't really gay so
they continued to have sex witheach other on the game.
Yeah, on the game.
Yeah, somebody had to take it,though, so that's really crazy.

Speaker 2 (45:51):
Yeah, that did that happen.
And then he had what uh one?
A hall pass.
And then his wife got to have ahall pass of actually fucking
somebody.
I don't remember that part ofit yeah, yeah, like she wanted a
hall pass from him, and so hehad a hall pass to yeah, fuck

(46:13):
his best friend on the game yeah, that's very weird very weird.
And then she had a hall pass toactually go out in the real
world and do something withsomebody at a bar that she went
to.

Speaker 1 (46:30):
And so I also saw it was like because there's a lot
of horror in it, right?

Speaker 2 (46:34):
Not really.
Okay, no, it's.
Usually it's just big sci-fipsychological thrillers.
That's really what it is, andit's always in an environment
that's in either the near or farfuture, so it's always in the
future somehow, or some type ofor even if it could be in the

(46:54):
past, it would be sometechnologically advanced
civilization compared to ourswhere we are right now.
You gotcha, yeah, so it'spretty dope.
But speaking of random partnersand all that, uh, did you hear
what neo said about, like all ofhis girls?

Speaker 1 (47:15):
that he can't.
They can't have sex with nobodybut him or something yeah, yeah
.

Speaker 2 (47:18):
So, like they can't, they can't do anything, but he
can if he wants to yeah, he'srich.

Speaker 1 (47:26):
That's how that shit goes I know somebody.

Speaker 2 (47:28):
I know somebody who's not rich and they have a girl,
and I don't know if they're likethis now, but he was praising
it at one point.
Him and another friend theywere at that.
Uh, we were somewhere.
It was like a kickback orsomething and they both were in
sort of the same situation ofhaving a girl and they had an

(47:52):
open relationship.
But the girl could do somethingwith with other women if she
wanted to and but she couldn'tdo anything with men, but he
could with other women.
And I'm asking could you be ina relationship like that?
Absolutely?

Speaker 3 (48:08):
But she couldn't do anything with men but he could
with other women.

Speaker 2 (48:09):
Okay, and I'm asking could you be in a relationship
like?

Speaker 1 (48:11):
that Absolutely.
You already knew that.

Speaker 2 (48:16):
I didn't, I didn't.

Speaker 1 (48:20):
I don't think I could that you can have sex with
other women.

Speaker 2 (48:23):
I feel like the foundation is too messy, Like
something's going to go wrong itis messy.
Yeah, that's what I feel.
I messy, like something's goingto go wrong.
It is messy.

Speaker 1 (48:33):
Yeah, that's what I feel like.
I feel like something's goingto go, but it's less messy when
you're getting your dick set.
Yeah, but like it feels less,worse.

Speaker 2 (48:39):
I, I feel you, I just I had that conversation with
them that day I just I don'tthink I it just sounds like
something's.

Speaker 1 (48:50):
I don't think, it just sounds like something's not
right, like something's goingto go wrong, very much.
So.
I mean, when you there's moreparties involved in your
relationship, then the odds ofher going wrong are amplified.
Yeah, but I mean that.
So it's only going to get asbad as the discipline if.

Speaker 2 (49:10):
if you're very, if you're in the relationship and
y'all have boundaries, as longas y'all go in that boundaries
and everybody involved knowsyour boundaries, then that's
fine I I'm just saying, I'msaying emotionally, like just
how the human brain works ingeneral, like if I'm out here
doing this with all these girlsand my girl sees a guy, I would

(49:37):
just assume that her mind wouldwonder a little bit her mind's
gonna wonder regardless yeah,but I'm actually out here doing
stuff with people.

Speaker 1 (49:49):
I feel like that would make her mind wonder a
little bit more than just likeshutting that off but she, she
has another person she can go onto who you said another woman
oh, yeah, yeah she, yeah, shehas to like women for it, for it
to work yeah yeah, yeah, but Imean even even so, there's
relationships to where uh uh,married wives let their husbands

(50:15):
step up uh-huh yeah, I mean,but when you talk about when
their mind wanders, your mind'sgonna wander, if your
relationship or not, and you'rejust uh, mutually exclusive,
exclusive to each other.

Speaker 2 (50:27):
Yeah, no, I'm not saying that, I'm just saying the
psyche of a person.
I just feel like it just feelsmessy, like clouded, like no
structure.
I mean it can be structure, butI just feel like how the mind
works long term, specificallylong term, it just doesn't feel

(50:50):
like that is a solid foundationfor a relationship.
You gotta explain to me why notbecause I feel, like if you're
able to do something that I'mnot able to do, eventually I
feel like you're missing thepoint.

Speaker 1 (51:05):
We you keep on saying that they're both able to have
sex with women.
Yeah, but I'm saying she'sattracted to men too.

Speaker 2 (51:13):
OK, so she actually likes.
Men.

Speaker 1 (51:17):
OK, so is she if we're together.
She no longer attracted to men.

Speaker 2 (51:25):
If we're no longer together.

Speaker 1 (51:26):
I said if, if, if.
Oh, excuse me, I misspoke.
If we are together and we're ina monogamous relationship
exclusive to each other, is sheno longer attracted to men?
No, she's still okay, and shesaid she, she doesn't have sex
with other men too.
So what?
What is it?
So?
Why does what the other persondoes contingent on how you

(51:47):
behave?
If that's within y'all'sboundaries, if that's what
you're willing to accept, it'seither you're willing to accept
it or you're not.
No, I know so at that point yougo to back to the table.
Hey, bae, I thought I would beup for this and this is a lot
more difficult for me.
Um, and then y'all can talkabout it yeah, I just feel like

(52:08):
that's the again.

Speaker 2 (52:10):
I mean I've definitely heard of
relationships and seeing thathappen.
I just don't think long termit's like.
I feel like that would have tocalm down then that's the
conversation that you have hmm,yeah, but are those people you
talked about still together?

Speaker 1 (52:28):
I'm curious.

Speaker 2 (52:31):
One of them.

Speaker 1 (52:32):
Oh, you got multiple people in open relationships
like this.

Speaker 2 (52:35):
No, at that one time where I was sitting at the table
it was two friends and both ofthem at that time frame was in
open relationships.
Okay.
And.
I don't think, even though oneof them is still in that
relationship I don't think itwas one of them is still in that
relationship.

Speaker 1 (52:48):
I don't think it was like it was then probably so,
because I mean, it sounds likethey're young, all right, yeah,
yeah, so they're young.
So I'm sure this is somethingthey probably are new to uh-huh
so you're learning.
Like you are in a relationship,your relationship, what you

(53:08):
tolerated in the beginning isgoing to be different within
what you tolerate five yearsfrom in the relationship yeah
yeah, so, yeah, so that's just anatural relationship well, yeah
, I mean know what you don'tlike and do like yeah yeah, but
I mean for me in that is thatbecause I didn't, I don't have

(53:36):
like women I'm not necessarilythreatened by or jealous of, so
so I can, I can tolerate thatbecause that's not a concern of
mine.
It's when you step outside theboundary of what we laid and
then I was like, okay, all right, so you can't.
You clearly are not disciplinedenough to operate in this

(53:56):
boundary so we got to shut itoff.
So yeah, so that's.
That's where it comes.
It like some.
You're not.
You're not either discussingthe rule with the other party,
so they don't know how to move,or you're not.
You're not telling what'sactually happening, or nobody
knows the boundaries and I andyou're clearly stepping over the

(54:17):
boundary.

Speaker 3 (54:18):
So we got to shut it down because you don't know how
to operate in it.

Speaker 1 (54:20):
So that's typically kind of how it is.
It's like either you go back tothe negotiate the table and be
like, hey, you know what my mymind can't take all that I
thought I could, but now thatI'm in it I realize I can't.
And and then you were like, ok,and that person can either
choose to be like you know what,this is what I love to do, and
you have to accept what theother person gives, because that

(54:43):
was a deal that y'all broughtto and now the conditions change
.
Or the person is cheating orgoing outside the boundary so
you gotta reel it back.

Speaker 2 (54:55):
I get on it, I get on it.
I just, I guess all I'm sayingis personally.
I just don't see it.
Um, it's just, I guess it's howmy mind works.

Speaker 1 (55:04):
I just don't think it just looks messy yeah yeah and
it breeds toxicity yeah yeahyeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 (55:11):
If everybody just yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it just
looks like uh, like like a wholeuh, like a uh what says?

Speaker 1 (55:22):
like.
I don't even know what to callwhat the word I'm coming in, but
it's like a like, just like amax it now.

Speaker 4 (55:27):
It just looks gross it looks very undisciplined,
yeah for sure I.

Speaker 1 (55:32):
I see the vision that you have for it yeah, that's.

Speaker 2 (55:34):
I think it's definitely uh certain people
certain people do certain things.

Speaker 1 (55:39):
Yeah, yeah, but but there is structure in it there
is structure yeah, there can be.
Now, if you're just like, hey, Ilike hoes, so I'm gonna keep on
fucking them and, by the way,you can fuck other hoes too like
, yeah, I can see where you'regetting that from.
But if they're saying, hey,like, for me it'd be like, hey,
my time, I like to spend my timeworking and hustling.

(56:02):
Now, if, if I'm not, if youcan't always get all of me, so
if you want to have somebodyelse to take you out sometime
and that be a girl, you likegirls, okay, I'm willing to talk
about that.
Now, here's the boundaries ofwhat I will allow.
Yeah, yeah, I'm first priority.

(56:24):
So if I call, you don't answerand you're with somebody else
now, that's a problem, becausenow I'm second to that person.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, so this is what.
If you're willing to acceptthat we shake on it and then you
go outside that boundary, thenI'm going to have a problem.
So let's make that clear.
Yeah, so I mean.

(56:45):
But so that is like y'all doy'all's own thing and have fun.
Now I get to work and get to dobuild my own business up
without having to worry aboutlike I'm not spending enough
time.
It's like, oh, shenanigans cantake care of that, yeah, yeah,
yeah.

Speaker 2 (57:01):
You know what I mean yeah, my brain doesn't work like
that.
It's crazy.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, toreach a song.

Speaker 1 (57:06):
Yeah, I mean, but that's fine.

Speaker 2 (57:09):
It's like I think that I get what you're saying,
though, for sure that is a taskfor sure of always having to.
It just comes with anyrelationship in general that
time that you got to spend, thetime you got to split up going
out, the time you got to splitup going out and all now you got

(57:31):
, now you need to um factor inthe spending of more and more
spending, more, uh grinding thanyou did before you know.
So I definitely get what you'resaying about that.
And then, like, splitting thattime up, um, yeah, I'm just, I
ain't built like that yeah.

Speaker 1 (57:44):
Yeah, I think I mean you like what's yours.
I don't think there's nothingwrong with liking what's yours
yeah yeah, yeah, I don't.
You don't like that.
I think you also probably havean idea like I don't want to
lose nobody to somebody too, orthe fact that somebody else is
being able to pleasure just aswell as me it's more of uh

(58:05):
because you, because I'm sureyou wouldn't like to hear, and
this same for me, um, like, likethe hell that you know,
previously somebody was, youknow, knocking it down.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, better than Icould.
That wouldn't feel good either,but I'm sure that's probably
been the case mm-hmm yeah, yeah,I can't be your best you ever

(58:28):
had every time.
You know, definitely if youhave multiple partners.

Speaker 2 (58:32):
I don't know that's, that's the main thing.
I think the main thing is justmore.
So what is it?
It's more of a I guess youcould say a territorial thing,
or it's more of a.
It's like a pact, like it's abond, like I just feel like well

(58:58):
with me, I just don't, I don'twant to think about anything a
woman or not?
like not saying that I'mthreatened by a woman.
It's not necessarily that.
It's just like it's only.
It's only when I'm again likein love with a person and when I
get there and it's just like,brad I, I want it to be me and

(59:19):
you only yeah and uh and you're,uh, you.

Speaker 1 (59:25):
It sounds like you just kind of love love, which is
also good too yeah.
And I have a lot of those.
I mean, I think everybody hasthat in them.
But as, on the other side ofthat, as I grow older, I do see
when people can Marry somebodyFor other reasons Outside of

(59:49):
love, easily Fix, yeah, yeah,like whether it's the
partnership of it, like, hey, wealign in these areas, so you
make the best partner for thealignment of what I see Like if
somebody wants to be a housewifeand somebody's a provider and
they want kids and they build upto that.
Alignment of what I see like ifsomebody wants to be a
housewife and somebody's aprovider and they want kids and
they build up to that, and thenI can see that being more of a

(01:00:12):
thing it's like hey, I believein god you believe in god.
You know we have theseboundaries.
I may not have that absolutelove, but we align in a lot of
places and I I want to keep thatI've seen that.

Speaker 2 (01:00:24):
I've seen that before .

Speaker 1 (01:00:25):
Yeah I guess it works in their own fashion and I used
to never think I could live inthat place.

Speaker 2 (01:00:31):
I don't think I can.
Yeah, it doesn't.
It doesn't feel like.
It doesn't seem like that'shappiness.

Speaker 1 (01:00:38):
It seems like you're doing a good job yeah, and, and
I'm not old enough to to toreally give that huge
perspective.
But what I feel like is just mepersonally.
I have a lot on my plate and mygranny needs to take care of my
dad just gave me the power ofattorney for his decision making

(01:01:02):
.
Because it's self declining.
It's like, yeah, I got a lot ofthings on my plate, yeah, yeah,
yeah, yeah.
Things on my plate, yeah, yeah,yeah, yeah.
Happiness, yeah, yeah, yeah,it's very much what you find in
it.
It's like you got a lot ofpriorities and you, if you want
to be happy, you got to findyourself happiness within those

(01:01:22):
priorities you know what I meanand whatever so.
So what I mean is that it's likeI'm a glass.
I'm a glass half full, not halfempty.
It's like alright, I likepodcasts, so if that's what made
me happy, you better dwell inthose things.
You know what I?
Mean yeah, I like time bymyself, you know so yeah, that's

(01:01:47):
what everybody does.
I'm just saying little things.
It's like, yeah, some, somethings are going to bring you
happiness and some things aregoing to bring stresses.
It always doesn't have to beanother person well, I wasn't
putting that much weight on.
I understood, understood uh-huh.

Speaker 2 (01:02:07):
well, I was just saying, first of all, like a
person, being happy iscompletely your responsibility.
I believe that it's not likeanybody else.
What I was saying, more so, wasjust the people that become
married to someone because theyfit perfectly in this box of

(01:02:30):
their life, versus you actuallyhave you actually feel like
you're, like your soul's tiedwith this person?
Yeah, like the differencebetween the two.

Speaker 1 (01:02:45):
um, I would just want a balance of that of both yeah,
I think I just live, yeah, Ijust I, I just, I guess I
understand, you know I used tobe I would say I would be 100
with you when I was in a firstrelationship yeah but now that

(01:03:07):
I'm 32, about to be 33, so youcan, you can have, you can have
a wife and you're not in lovewith her um, I can I have a wife
that I'm not in love with her?

Speaker 2 (01:03:16):
you can marry.
You can marry somebody thatyou're not in love with I don't
know if that's the case.

Speaker 1 (01:03:22):
That's not basically what I'm saying that's not
really what I'm saying, though.
I think that you can lovesomebody and hey, ultimately, do
they align to what like, like.
What I tell my girlfriend islike.
What I'm looking for is kindness, respect um loyalty um yeah,

(01:03:48):
critique without being harsh,yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah, non-aggressive.
In most moments, of courseyou're going to be emotional
about things, but can you acceptyou know what I'm doing in
conversation and then not haveto be this whole thing Like, can
I tell you that wasn't okay andbe calm-minded and you accept

(01:04:10):
it, it, you know?
So it's like little things likethat.
Ultimately, if you're pretty,you know I mean you got a nice
body, I mean I can, if you fitthat shell, then we're gonna
there's.
There's things I'm gonna likeand don't like about you but as
long as you fit that mold, I'm,I'm, I think I can love you, bro
, you know what I mean.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

(01:04:31):
So so it's like I don't want toseem like, oh, you can't they
no love in whatever.
It's like that person is goingto be your, the mother of your
child.
You're going to love thatperson, you're going to protect.
You want to see her happybecause you get more happiness
out of that.

Speaker 2 (01:04:46):
But at the same time your soul's tied but at the same
time your soul's tied yeah, Imean that was a little extreme,
but like yeah, yeah, I just itseemed like you were saying more
, so you can marry somebody thatyou don't like for real I can
see how you got that, yeah, yeahlike what I meant.
So time it's just like you knowyou look at a person.

(01:05:07):
Like you know that you're inlove with this yeah, some people
.

Speaker 1 (01:05:09):
I'd be disgusted by no-transcript.
I wouldn't marry you if you wasthe last person on Earth.
Yeah, yeah, I'm not saying Ican marry any old body if they
got a good career.
No, If it fits perfectly.
But I'm just saying I saidwhere are y'all lying at?

(01:05:32):
Yeah, I don't have to be.
You know you take my breathaway.
Yeah, and that's where I thinkultimately, where they like when
you talk about love is love islike you take my breath away.
I can't stop thinking andspeaking about you.

Speaker 2 (01:05:39):
You know what it's like it's not, yeah, it's not
puppy love yeah, but, yeah, butit very much.

Speaker 1 (01:05:44):
People have that hopeless, that romantic,
romanticized love in that way.
It's like are we?
Hey, you cool, yeah, you'repretty.
I well, I find you attractive.
Um, a, your personality fits towhat I want to see my wife be
yeah okay and I think I can lovethat and we can grow.

Speaker 2 (01:06:06):
That's what's fucking me.
Up is like I think I could lovethat yeah like I'm just saying
I don't want to say that.

Speaker 1 (01:06:11):
I know I'm going to love it, but I was like okay
yeah, it literally sounds likewe can make something into this
bond because we're going to verymuch grow with it.

Speaker 3 (01:06:19):
We can even grow out of love or grow in, you know,
grow into it yeah love is strongand fickle yeah exactly, yeah
you're gonna fall in love withthe person you're gonna to fall
in love with the person You'regoing to fall out of love with
the person, especially if you'remarried.

Speaker 2 (01:06:31):
I expect unfortunately I do expect to be
in love and out of lovethroughout that process of being
married.

Speaker 1 (01:06:41):
But as long as your personality is strong, like hey,
she's hilarious and enjoyableto be around, you typically
don't lose that.
Yeah, you're right.
Yeah, so unless somethingdramatic happens to where you're
traumatized, you typicallydon't lose some of those same
features that you've always hadwithin yeah.
So as long as you have that andyou know we're good, we're a

(01:07:05):
good time, we can make thisthing work yeah, yeah but yeah,
so I was.
I was just more on the side of,just like bruh, you know we
gotta be clenched to each otherat all times and be hugged up
like my little sugar plum, yeahall those really sound nice, but
uh, it's just not superrealistic to me and not

(01:07:28):
something I want anyway, yeah, Ithink I think we both took each
other what we said in extremeways.
Yeah, exactly yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:07:38):
I just, yeah, I got to, I got to be attracted into
this one because I feel like I'mgoing to be different.
I'm not going to be fully theperson that I could be in this
marriage if I don't like you forreal.

Speaker 1 (01:07:55):
Yeah, of course this trip gonna be different.

Speaker 2 (01:07:59):
My effort into making you happy is gonna be different
.
You know, if I'm fed up withyou like nigga, fuck you.
I'm not finna.
Try to make amends.

Speaker 1 (01:08:11):
I don't really like you, like that I think one of
the worst and best qualitiesabout myself is some is like
that is to where.
Regardless who you are, if Ifeel like you bullshitting and
tripping, I don't feel anypressure or pressure to like be
the.
Oh, I'm apologize, even thoughI'm not wrong oh yeah yeah, yeah

(01:08:34):
, yeah, like, nah, I'm standingon this.
I think you're tripping, andfine.
If you want to pout and be inyour own corner, all right.
Better for me, because I liketo be above myself anyway.
So you, I don't lose, Iliterally don't like like it's.
It's like the best or worstthing for me.
It's like.
I feel like I should makeamends, but I enjoy being by

(01:08:55):
myself, so it sucks for you.

Speaker 2 (01:08:58):
Turns on something.
Exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:09:01):
Put my headphones in.
All right, bye.
I wanted to hear this podcastanyway, oh God.
Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:09:14):
I could just like see you in the house Like happy,
just swinging your feet in yourchair Listening to a podcast and
she just slamming shit whileshe's cleaning.

Speaker 1 (01:09:22):
Oh well, I feel like leaving.
I'm gonna go work.
How about that?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, like I'mconfessing at this point, cause
this is literally how I think.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's not likeI'm confessing at this point,
because this is literally how Ithink yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,
it's not like I express myselfoutside of this, but yeah, it's
some of those things likealright, you're mad, fine, I'll
work some more.
Yeah, now I get to work inpeace now.

(01:09:45):
I have to call in all the damntime.
Yeah, so okay.
Oh yeah, yeah, because shelistens.
I might have to call in all thedamn time.
Yeah, so okay.
Oh yeah, yeah, because shelistens.
I'm going to have to explainmyself with this.
But that's very much true.
sometimes it's like yeah, eitherwe figure it out at that moment
or you lose, because now you'rejust mad.
Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah becauseI'm not going to stoop myself to

(01:10:08):
get mad with you.
No, fair, yeah, yeah, becauseI'm not going to stoop myself to
get mad with you.
No, yeah, so, yeah.
So we can either be adults andtalk about it and be,
open-minded, or it's just goingto be this and either way I'm a
half glass full person, so I'mI'm not going to take an l in
this, I promise you I'm not well, that's okay yeah that makes
sense I mean I do.

Speaker 2 (01:10:29):
I do believe that, um , it's very important, kind of
to go to your point, it's veryimportant for, like the man to
keep frame in the relationship.
Yeah, that's that's super,super important.
Um, because, if not, then, likeonce you start like um, doing

(01:10:49):
kind of what you said, you werelike, even if they know they
tripping or maybe they don'tknow they tripping, but they are
and then as soon as when youkind of break frame and then
you're like well, what do youwant to do tonight?
Just to get over it or whatever.
Like that respect level goesdown yeah yeah, like, every like
, every time.

Speaker 1 (01:11:10):
Yeah, and I'll just be upfront about a situation,
and it's like when she's mad, Ican visibly tell when she's mad.
Yeah.

(01:11:31):
But it's in my head the sillything.
It's like silly thing.
For example, she has a child,he's like you staying over
tonight, and then I'm like askyour mom, you know like yeah,
what do you mean?
No, so he's asked me thatseveral times.
I've answered him before, buthe kind of asked that more times
.
I'm going to give you you longstory.

(01:11:51):
Short about shorter.
Um, yes, I can answer him everytime, but I I just push it back
to his mom at this point umshe's like you can answer.
I was like no, I think it should, I think you can like I'm
trying to figure out what what'sgoing on?
Here.
It's so silly, it's literallythe silliest thing.
It's like yeah, it's justawkward for him to ask.

(01:12:15):
You know people are asking, Ijust throw it to you so you can
answer them, because it's like aone and done thing.

Speaker 2 (01:12:21):
Oh, uh-huh.

Speaker 1 (01:12:21):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And then she's like you cananswer them.
I was like I'm not, I'm not,you got it, and that's something
.
She got mad at it because she'slike you know, you can't just
dismiss me.
And then so I was like you'recrying over here.

(01:12:43):
But so my thing is is like OK,we can have a civil discussion
about it, but you're now, you'renot.
Now, this ruined your night.
Now, since I think it's sosilly to have ruined your night,
I'm not going to try to make itcomfort you.

Speaker 2 (01:13:03):
It's so silly to me.

Speaker 1 (01:13:05):
I'm about to go away, you can just tell him yeah, he
is or he's not, or whatever.
Just keep it as that, becauseyou can just tell him yeah, he
is, or he's not, or whatever.
Yeah.
And just keep it as that.
But so it's like one of thosesilly things to me, to where
it's like I could maybe fix this.
But I know what it was reallyall about.
It was the fact that she feelsthat I'm dismissing her, which

(01:13:30):
is silly, cause I knew that wasthe issue.
I was like which is silly to mebecause the more times than not
, we lean on to what you want todo or what you asked me to do.
So if you ask me, so so I and Igave her cause.
We talked about it the next day, cause I wasn't giving in.
So you're going to have tobring it to the floor because we

(01:13:52):
know what the I know what theissue is.
I'm just waiting for you to sayit because it gives me peace.
You're like you can just be mad, but it's not going to help
your situation?
yeah, because I'm gonna just beto be to myself and act like
nothing happened.
Um, so, so, um, so we got to.
She's like yeah, I just feel,because that's what she said,
you know, I just, I just feellike you're dissuasing me.
You can't do that whenever youplease, and I'm like that's, you

(01:14:15):
know, in my head.
I'm like do you not know howthis relationship goes?
It barely leans on to what Iwant.
So I gave her the example.
I was like yeah, I was like youremember we was at the airport.
I was like, yeah, I was likeyou remember we was at the
airport and then she told me todo something Like hey, instead

(01:14:36):
of going to the front, we'regoing to scan in here.
And then I said, hey, I prettymuch I'm paraphrasing I was like
you know, happy wife, happylife type of thing.
And the man was next to me andsmiled Like, yeah, yeah.
And then he and he as, and thenwe talked about it during the
uh, during the flight, and he'slike yeah, yeah, yeah, he.

(01:14:56):
He's like he's a wise man.
I'm speaking for the way he wasthinking about me yeah, like
good choice and so yeah and then.
So I used that as an example.
I was like, yeah, we alwayslean on to what you got to do,
but the times that I tell you,no, I'm not doing this is where
you have a problem, uh-huh yeah,I don't, so it's it's really

(01:15:17):
you, you feeling like you can,you should.
You don't realize that.
You think that you shouldcontrol everything and and
that's really where the problemslie there's a suit lie.
The one thing you don't havecontrol and I don't just obey
your command is the actual issue.

Speaker 2 (01:15:35):
I can see that with certain relationships.
I don't fully believe in thequote happy wife happy life.

Speaker 1 (01:15:45):
No, I was using that as an example.

Speaker 2 (01:15:46):
I mean, you clearly aren't moving like that, you
clearly aren't moving like that.
Uh, you really aren't movinglike that from time to time,
yeah, but uh, yeah, I don't, Idon't fully believe in that shit
.
Yeah, um, the somebody saidhappy spouse, happy house.

Speaker 1 (01:16:01):
I'm more into that, like um yeah so, like both of us
matter.
Okay, yeah so, but at when Italk it doesn't sound like how
the relationship is and itsounds like it could be more of
my way.
But it's really never that,because I'm very considerate of
the other person.

(01:16:22):
But that's the thing about me.
Is I which, for better or forworse, I self reflect on that
decision and I justify if youshould be mad or not.
So I'll look at it like damn.
I did accidentally step my footout and tripped you.
I should apologize for thatbecause that was wrong with me

(01:16:45):
and I'll apologize.
But if I did something that youoverreacted on, I'm like bruh
nah.
I ain't apologizing for it, youknow.
So I pick and choose based offof what I think the situation is
, to say, hey, I'm wrong, sothat could work against me
sometimes and it could work forme in a lot of times so but I

(01:17:08):
consider you is ultimately like,a lot of everything I do is
based off of her.
Yeah, uh-huh, and you're like,okay, let me consider her and
think about how she's going tofeel, and.
But sometimes there'll be timesto where it's like, hey, I
would love to spend time, but Ihave to work.
You know, I have to pay thesebills.
I have to get it because a lotof these bills are going

(01:17:32):
somewhere else.
I've overspent or whatever thesituation may lie.
Yeah, yeah.
So I'm sorry that that you'refrustrated, but this is also my
life and I.

Speaker 2 (01:17:41):
You're just going to have to be mad yeah, yeah, you
just shine a light on those theother times as well.
Yeah, yeah, no, that makessense.

Speaker 1 (01:17:50):
Yeah.
So it's not like just me beingpicky and being the bully and
the boss, it's like, no,sometimes I have to step my foot
down, otherwise I'm not gonnapush over or run over it.
And if that's where you thinkthis relationship is going to be
, you have another thing coming,because otherwise I'm just
gonna be miserable and at somepoint it's going to be too much

(01:18:12):
and all, and so I very much soat this point, it's like we're
dating, we're dating to marry,but I still want to take my time
.
I'm not gonna rush into anything.
Yeah, because I still need tosee more, I still need to see
change, I still need to seedevelopment.
So if we, if you still, ifwe're still in year two, I,

(01:18:35):
we're still Ricky's, you know, Imean, and we haven't learned
each other, we haven't tried totry to see what, what each other
likes, enjoys, and try to makeadjustments in a relationship
about that.
That's the problem yeah yeah,yeah.
So I don't, I'm I, I, I don'tbelieve in divorce yeah, yeah so
once I'm in it, I'm in it and Idon't want to be stuck either.

(01:18:57):
Yeah, yeah, so I'm gonna makesure that I I you know
everything yeah, exactly so.
I was like I don't want to seeno, no cliff.
And then just willy nilly likebro, I see the clip there, but
I'm still.
Maybe I have a parasail.
It's like nah, I see I need tohit the brakes in in hope, yeah,

(01:19:18):
yeah yeah so, so I want to makesure the things that I see is
that we are at least makingchallenges to overcome it.
Yeah, and I think that sheshould think very much that same
way.

Speaker 2 (01:19:30):
I mean people.
I feel like at this age, thatis the thing.
Now I'm kind of going back andforth myself.
I'm just like I don't know.
It's like when life is moving,even though I don't be moving
around too much, but like whenthings are in motion I feel like

(01:19:51):
I can have fun and just like bearound people or women that you
know just like to are anaddition to my life in a way,
but more so on.
Like you don't have much, you,you can't like get in.
It's just like, um, I'm at thisplace right now like I don't

(01:20:15):
even know.
I feel like I want a wife, butalso like, do I?
I don't know.
It's like it's.
I'm kind of going back andforth with that in my head.
I think I do, but also it'slike the way people are nowadays
.
It just seems like a lot ofpeople don't think in the way of

(01:20:41):
all right, I'm going to bemarried to this person forever.

Speaker 1 (01:20:48):
I think.
I mean I can't answer that.
I mean I think that one well,well, yes, I can people do?
Think that, like that, it'sjust that you also I mean, once
you allow certain things, it'shard to reel it back in at some
point yeah, like yeah, if you'reallowing things for a couple

(01:21:09):
years and then they run over youcompletely, then yeah, yeah,
then it's always going toprobably be that.
Yeah, you can't, and you'refive, just like, oh, what's
something different now youswitching up, yeah yeah, yeah.
So so you got to be what yourstandards is, is what your
boundaries is, and it very wellbe that, cause I and I'll speak

(01:21:31):
directly to you is like somethings that I feel like you, you
shouldn't.
You shouldn't have probably letsomebody do.

Speaker 2 (01:21:39):
Oh no For a fact.
No, that, that, that, um, thatisn't why I'm saying all that.
I definitely had to learn fromthat and grow from that type of
stuff.
Uh, being around certain womenhaving being treated certain
ways I didn't know I could, andthen like allowing certain
things or seeing a girl who'sthe prettiest girl I've ever

(01:22:03):
seen in my life, and then youknow, realize there's, there's a
person behind that face.

Speaker 1 (01:22:10):
You know what I'm saying.
I think the people showed youwho they were.
Oh for a fact, like I think,every relationship they showed
from what I from outside lookingin, showed you who they were.

Speaker 2 (01:22:20):
No, absolutely.
I've thought about that plentyof times.
Just, you know, when arelationship is over, then you
kind of like assess the wholesituation, assess myself, and
then you kind of like assess thewhole situation, assess myself,
and then the responsibility ofbeing tied up into something
that could have been done on thefirst thing, which is like it's

(01:22:40):
kind of hardening a shell alittle bit.
It's kind of like getting tothe point of I'm at the point
now where I like I don't knowlike it's I wouldn't even call
it patience, it's just like away of life in a way, if

(01:23:01):
something just seems weird oroff, like I'm not even
entertaining it, like to thepoint where I can say, hey, hi,
miss somebody, and then if shesays, what's up, I'm done, like
I'm out.

Speaker 1 (01:23:20):
I'm like that.
I'm down to there Like youhired me, so she got to break
you with absolute love.
Hey, handsome, hey.

Speaker 2 (01:23:30):
That'll keep me around for a couple more minutes
, you're on us.
You're on the clock, so yeah, soshe gotta absolutely be head
over heels for you then no, notjust that, it's just like just
all that stuff, like kind oflike what you said.
It's like I I damn near havejust spidey senses now, just

(01:23:50):
anything Like anything.
If, if you say you're going tocall me tomorrow, even as a
friend, like if you say you'regoing to call me tomorrow, no,
no.
If you say you're going to callme today, and then you went out
with some people and you hit meback like our friendship just
took a little toll.

Speaker 1 (01:24:07):
Oh yeah, yeah, like it's down to that Now.

Speaker 2 (01:24:12):
It's down to that now .
It's just like I just see howyou, I just go straight off
actions now, okay, likecompletely.
So it's probably going to bedifficult for me to get into
another relationship.
I don't see that even it reallydon't matter.
Like now, I've been intosituations where, like a girl
was so pretty, a girl treated meso well and it's like I don't
know what else.

(01:24:32):
Like now going through thosethings yeah it's like like what
else could be given to me thatwould kind of make me like allow
certain things to to happen,and even going through those
things, I realize what that does, where it can get to, where it
can go, how bad it could be onyear, this or month that yeah,

(01:24:59):
you know, if I think that, if Iwas analyzing generically
situation I think they probablyone they weren't completely
honest on how they felt in alltheir situations, because there

(01:25:20):
are signs in the world I'm surethey saw to where they're like,
hey, I need to stop and askquestions.

Speaker 1 (01:25:25):
And not only that, they probably didn't know how to
play sidekick.
Well, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,yeah, like, like, oh, not
psychic, that's yeah, yeah, orbe your right hand you know, I
mean for oh yeah yeah, yeah,yeah and so yeah, cuz yeah, cuz
there could have been a lot ofthings prevented if the

(01:25:46):
communication was absolutely keyyeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:25:50):
No, there was something.
There's a bit of both, it's abit of both, and then you know,
just being completely honest, Iwasn't like the perfect person
in these relationships, I feellike yeah yeah, but I'm saying
like I definitely could havebeen that just assessing myself.
like I do understand that somethings happened to where I gotta

(01:26:16):
look at myself and realize likeshould I have even been in a
relationship at that point of mylife like of where I was in the
certain uh mind state that Iwas in the certain decisions
that I was making?
Some of those things Ishouldn't even have been in a
relationship in general.

Speaker 1 (01:26:36):
Yeah, I think you went after what you wanted.

Speaker 2 (01:26:42):
I always do that there are signs, though, that I
chose not to look at In anyrelationship that I've been in.
Usually it's in the beginning,it's usually always some slight,
some real slight, and then yousee that yeah, yeah, yeah, and
then you're like, no, she'spretty yeah.

(01:27:03):
Or no, she said I'm sorry today.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Just like those little thingsthat you look at the other
things, and then those thingsget bigger and bigger.
But probably same with men,probably you know same exact
thing.
Um, but yeah, but now those,those, those, those senses are
like extremely heightened now towhere?
Yeah it's, it's just kind ofdifferent, it's just like damn

(01:27:27):
yeah I can.
Literally I feel like I canjust stop talking to anybody.

Speaker 1 (01:27:35):
Oh okay, yeah, it's like kind of weird yeah, I, I
understand that because I meanI'm somewhere in there where I
can see me fitting in that samebubble, but it's more how I'd
look at it is there's.
I have like a oh well mindset,hey, I messed up.

(01:27:56):
Oh well, you know.
Like, hey, it is what it is, ithurt.
Yeah, of course I'm gonna feelit.
I'm gonna think about it, butin the day, oh well yeah yeah,
like, what are you gonna do?
You're gonna be miserable forthe rest of life.

Speaker 2 (01:28:12):
You gotta move on thanks yeah, yeah, have to stay
in motion yeah, there's now.

Speaker 1 (01:28:16):
Learn from it and take that on, because there's
great people out there stillyeah, bro, that was something
else.

Speaker 2 (01:28:22):
That, uh, that that kind of gets me through that to
where it's and I'm acting likeI'm just like dating all around
the world.
So I'm not doing that, but um,there is something to where you
know the people that did youwrong or like the, or even
yourself you know like after you, kind of which I'm still
working on this but likeforgiving people to like what

(01:28:45):
they have done, or yourself ofputting yourself in like certain
situations or allowing certainthings or certain things
transpire to a certain point, towhere it can be on your mind,
and all that when you activelyknow that when you let that go,
you give yourself room like foranything to happen like you give

(01:29:07):
yourself room for like ifsomebody did you wrong, you
forget that person.
That weight is now lifted offyour shoulders to where, like,
you're lighter and on top ofthat, you have more room to um,
to, to, to experience somebodyelse like, or to experience
something that's that possiblyis completely for you and you

(01:29:28):
can actually open up your eyesand see it.

Speaker 1 (01:29:30):
Yeah, and I think there's, and that the greatest
thing about men, because theyalso like it's hard to the day
as a man, which which is true,but you, if you look in I feel
like you're a certain type ofman for sure, uh for sure yeah,
but I think that even, even,even for well, I think that
you're for sure, I totally agree.

(01:29:51):
So I think we're probablyLooking at it from a probably a
privileged Perspective a littlebit.
But just what I was going tosay is that, as a woman, good
men Are kind of hard to come by,exactly, so it's like that's
even scarier.
To think that hey, somebody'sGoing to be loyal, somebody's
going to be loyal, somebody'sgoing to provide and care and

(01:30:14):
not beat my ass.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, like that.
Actually there's a very limitedsupply.
There's not a limited, I don'tthink there's a.
As much as it is for men.
A limited, a limited supply ofwomen who wants a man, wants to
be right and have that nuclearfamily.
Now do they have the submissionkey to it and know how to be a?

(01:30:37):
woman um, or a wife or yeah,have that femininity aspect and
uh can follow guidance orleadership.
I should say uh, that now that'sa lot, that's a lot tougher,
but that's if I'm putting myselfin anybody's shoes.
It's hard to follow somebody'sdecision when you want to make
another one, but at the sametime we're going to lean into

(01:30:58):
what you want anyway.
So when she was talking aboutdismissing, it's like, yeah,
those are seldom cases to whereit's like, yeah, I don't feel
like doing this, and if you havea problem with it, it is what
it is, because it's such aminute situation and these are
rare occasions.
So if you're like, hey, if he'ssaying, I, I know my man.

(01:31:21):
That's why I was like, hey, Iknow my man.
If he's not wanting to dealwith it, then fine, I'll deal
with it and that's what it is.
Cause he asked the same thingyesterday, the same question,
and she answered it.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
So it's like, okay, yeah, I'm,I'm, so, I'm, I'm glad we have
the thing about is that at firstI was questioning her, her, her

(01:31:45):
ability to self reflect, butnow it's like she, we just got
to go through these phases forher to realize like, yeah, it's
not actually a real issue hereum and we can move on.
It's going to be those so whereshe gets mad and then she comes
back later and we talk about itas adults and then we get over
it or get moved past it but yeahso, but I think, but long story

(01:32:11):
short of all that is thatdefinitely a guy in your case is
that, yeah, we all gonna geteffed, yeah, and screwed over,
yeah, taken advantage of yeah,yeah, that's just one part about
dating, but I think that thereis more light in the end of the

(01:32:31):
tunnel for a man than it is awoman I

Speaker 2 (01:32:34):
think yes, I also feel like.
Again, it depends on who youare, but yeah, yeah that.

Speaker 1 (01:32:43):
That because I'm saying good man is just as short
as supplies like how, how many,how many relationships, you
know, to where they're doing.
The man is doing the basics,right right right right yeah,
yeah no, that's a fact.

Speaker 2 (01:32:58):
That's a fact.
Everyone, every, usually everyperson that I have dated, there
clearly was a difference betweenme and whoever she was dating
before.
If anything, it usually alwaysworked in my favor of just how I

(01:33:21):
am in general, and that doestell you a lot about the dating
pool yeah, and that's when theycome back to you like, damn, and
that's what I was telling aboutour friend.

Speaker 1 (01:33:34):
It's like let her go, bruh, because, please, fast and
expeditiously.
Yes, yeah, but I was like she'sgonna come back around because
there's, there's not as short asyou.
It's gonna hurt.
You see, her date people.
But that guy, guy, he ain't you, and that's just a fact.
Yeah.
So let her go date and she'sgoing to be back.

(01:33:59):
If you love her, she's going tobe back, but I can tell you
she's not for you because it'sbetter out there, right?

Speaker 2 (01:34:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:34:06):
And you know, now he's come to terms with it.
It feels, like Of course, he'sstill salty about a lot of
things, which is going to be thecase, but at the same time, I
was like you're finally there.
You know, what I mean.
Yeah, yeah, you're finallyexcited about dating
opportunities, which you shouldhave been.
Yeah, none of these are wifey,but they're at least a breath a

(01:34:29):
fresher, uh, a breath of freshair yeah yeah, and you will find
.
Trust me, you're gonna find thefind the one person for you
that's gonna suit you for real,because you you probably
probably already passed some ofthese girls by yeah, it's a lot.
Yeah, there is a lot of womenout there yeah, I'm even the
people that you dated or orliked you do you?
Do you think about it like?

(01:34:50):
You know what I could have gaveum her more of a chance.
I should have did that uh, girlsthat I've like even liked or
even talked to for a little bit,like you know what.
She's actually a good personand I should have I should have
given her more of a chance.

Speaker 2 (01:35:05):
I should have.

Speaker 1 (01:35:05):
Yeah pursued that a lot harder.
Have pursued that a lot harder.

Speaker 2 (01:35:10):
I think I've pursued everything that I wanted to
pursue.

Speaker 1 (01:35:13):
Even the person who you said you was on the phone
with for hours.
Yeah, exactly, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:35:24):
But I you talking about.

Speaker 1 (01:35:29):
Nah who you talking about.

Speaker 2 (01:35:34):
The person that lives in.

Speaker 1 (01:35:35):
Atlantalanta.
Oh, uh-huh, okay with with.

Speaker 2 (01:35:36):
That had not been a good option for you um I don't
know, I don't, I don't, I'm notsure, I'm not sure I'm not sure
I mean that it's.
It's more of like a cool thing,not necessarily like a a spark,
oh okay but I mean, I nevereven, like, had a chance to even

(01:35:57):
like sit down and talk for realoh, okay.

Speaker 1 (01:36:00):
Okay, I thought she liked you for a second.
I think she did.
Yeah, I think so too yeah, yeah, that was something I didn't
really know that used to be oneof my close friends, so I she
never told me, but I can, I knowhow she moves uh-huh, no, I
didn't, I didn't know that.

Speaker 2 (01:36:16):
Um yeah, but she definitely, she's definitely
saying yeah, but she's a goodperson for real yeah, yeah
you're just saying, like ifthere was anyone that I just
like I was just like along thoseaspects.

Speaker 1 (01:36:28):
It wasn't like nothing for real, for real but
it's like brad, she's actuallycoming down.
She was solid, that's your dayoh, uh, yeah, I can I can think
of a couple names, yeah yeah, Ithink still I usually have.

Speaker 2 (01:36:44):
if there was something that I wanted like in
that aspect, like that far oflike I could see this girl being
my girl, like actually gettingto that point, usually I've,
I've tried to to do that, to getto that point.
But to answer your questionabout going back, or just like
how you said, like with himshe's gonna come back and I

(01:37:06):
don't know, I don't know withany of them, maybe maybe I don't
know, I don't know, I don'tknow with any of them.
Maybe maybe I don't know, Idon't know, that's kind of hard
to say.
Would you re-date?

Speaker 1 (01:37:17):
Well, I'm in a relationship.

Speaker 4 (01:37:19):
Oh right right right, right, right, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Never mind, never mind, nevermind.

Speaker 1 (01:37:23):
So no, yeah, yeah, yeah, but I can give honest
feedback of what, like, if therewas, if I was to be able to
single single again, the answerwould be no, because I um, I
don't even know where I wouldbegin with the previous people

(01:37:44):
that I've been in a relationshipwith yeah, so much more people
have moved on yeah, yeah yeah,with their lives.
Like other people are marriednow, yeah, yeah, so yeah, every
my relationship would have tobecome poorly.
There would be you know what Imean so so the.
The quick answer is no, yeahyeah, I think that's.

Speaker 2 (01:38:03):
That's.
The only reason I said uh, Idon't know was just because
maybe like some, some personlike sprinkled out within there,
but usually everybody kind oflike my thing is not even
necessarily just them, but it'slike their environment and
choices of who they hang aroundin there, multiple people like

(01:38:30):
how they move, yeah.
Yeah, it's just like I don'tknow if I want that even if
you're cool like you're going tobe a product of who you talk to
.
That's one of the main things islike, if we're mad at each
other, who's going to have themost influence on you?

(01:38:52):
It's like your environment, thepeople that talk that out.
If you got, yes, women allaround you which are a couple,
relationships that I have justjust yes people.
It's like I don't think that'llever help anything yeah, like
you need somebody, notnecessarily a no man, but yeah,
somebody that that can look atthe us factor versus more of my

(01:39:16):
homie or my girl when it comesto a building relationship yeah,
yeah, because if I'm always onyour side.
You probably like dog a womanout or something not not
necessarily you, but just likemy homies.

Speaker 1 (01:39:28):
Yeah, I think, yeah, I think our friends do a good
job of checking each other whenwe're tripping, even when we
don't want to hear it, becauseone even I know I don't can't
think of running in my friendsthat don't do it, but but maybe
one or two, but I got enoughthat do.
And if you love somebody, youdon't want to see nobody just

(01:39:50):
completely self-destruct.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you'relike yeah, like what you, what
you want, you know, likesomebody, we got to say
something yeah yeah, yeah.
Now, whatever the explanationyou give is like all right, he's
delusional, whatever.
You know what I mean I at leastsaid something not for a fact.

Speaker 2 (01:40:08):
That's definitely important.
I I wish I saw that more inwomen's relationships I I
totally agree yeah, it's usuallylike girl and it's always the
the quote of the day.
He was crazy and but but thereare crazy niggas out there
absolutely.
I've heard stories about menfrom women.
I'd never even thought I wouldhear.
But yeah usually still, even ifthey are like kind of okay me

(01:40:33):
and yeah it's tagged as our girl.
He was crazy he did it.

Speaker 1 (01:40:37):
Yeah, everybody's not gonna handle everything
perfectly and we're gonna slipup.
We got emotions too, yeah yeah,yeah so anybody could be crazy
at any moment.
Thanks, yeah, yeah, and it's.
That's up to the other person'sinterpretation did he choke you
.
Yeah, like yeah, yeah, right,did he try to run you off the
road?
Now, that's crazy yeah but himcalling you 10 times because

(01:41:00):
he's trying to hear from you.
I think that's just a moreemotional thing yeah yeah, yeah
absolutely yeah, yeah, I waslike now.
He still stayed within hisboundaries even though y'all
broke up, but he just want tohear from you.
It's like, yeah, I can seewhere that could be, you know,
on the grade line.
But, he didn't.
You know he.
It's not like he broke downyour door.
Yeah.

(01:41:20):
Yeah, did he pull up to yourhouse unannounced?
I don't find that crazy, Idon't Me personally.
Pull up to I don't your houseunannounced when y'all broke up.
I don't find that crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:41:34):
That part of the story.
Yeah, it depends where thatstory goes, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:41:40):
He knocked his door and you didn't answer.
You didn't answer and he left.

Speaker 2 (01:41:44):
Oh, and he left.

Speaker 1 (01:41:46):
Now if he's standing on the top of the tree Trying to
peek through the blinds?

Speaker 2 (01:41:49):
Yeah, that's crazy, I heard about it.

Speaker 1 (01:41:51):
This one girl said she standing on the top of the
tree trying to peek through theblinds.
Yeah, that's crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:41:53):
I heard about it.
Yeah, yeah, this one girl saidthis.
She was.
She lived on the second floor.
She said this man climbed theladder on the outside and tried
to get in through the window.
Yeah, yeah, what the yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:42:05):
yeah, I mean that's scary, of course it is what?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But what if?
What if one of your girls didthat?
Is that is that scary likethat's just to listen, no, no
seriously.
It's like the relationshipsyeah, if somebody.

Speaker 2 (01:42:22):
First of all, all of them is it scary?

Speaker 1 (01:42:25):
is what I'm saying?
Are you going to be scared?

Speaker 2 (01:42:28):
if I'm on the second floor and I see her like this in
the window next to therefrigerator.

Speaker 1 (01:42:38):
You ain't gonna be scared for real.
Yeah, I'm like, oh my god, likeno she really loves me.

Speaker 2 (01:42:45):
She really loves me, you know, you are no, I'm gonna
be like I will think she reallyloves me for sure, but also like
dang girl, you just climbed theladder to, to, to to try to get
in my.
No, that's definitely Iwouldn't know what to do.

Speaker 1 (01:42:57):
It is crazy but I you ain't gonna be scared.
That's what I'm saying yeahokay maybe in that moment.

Speaker 2 (01:43:03):
I maybe in that moment because I'm conscious and
I know that if she tries someshit, I'm stronger than her, so
I can just pin her down orsomething, but once she leaves
and it's quiet, I'm going to belike oh shit, I'll be like I
can't go to sleep.

Speaker 1 (01:43:21):
Yeah, steven, you didn't answer my text messages.

Speaker 2 (01:43:26):
Oh, my God, Everything.
I would be heightened Like if Ididn't.
I don't want to answer thiscall, but should I?
Yeah, yeah, no, that's, that'scrazy, no, no we're getting in.

Speaker 1 (01:43:37):
What I mean this is over beyond.
Yeah.
But I was watching things acouple months ago.
It was like the youtube, um,like murder files, whatever.
And it was this guy, this guy,this lady.
She called the police becauseshe found her ex-boyfriend Keys
in her house.
Yeah, yeah.

(01:44:00):
And then she called the police.
She runs to the bathroom andthen she's like I need the
police here.
My boyfriend's here somewherein the house.
I found Keys in my room, Idon't know where he's at, and
you know my mom, dad and littlebrother's here somewhere in the
house.
I found his keys in my room, Idon't know where he's at, my mom
, dad and little brother's here.
So he winds up, of course,beating the house.

(01:44:20):
He kills her family, yes, whileshe's on the phone with the
police, so you hear it, all thegunshots and everything.
What the fuck?
Yeah.
Then he breaks down the doorand he's like look what you made
me do.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And then she somehow gets outthe house and runs, and then

(01:44:45):
that's when the police come andeventually he was on the run for
a while, uh, but nonetheless,that's another part of insanity
that you know, we can'tcomprehend oh my god, how is
that even possible?

Speaker 2 (01:45:04):
but that's scary man girls really do be going through
this yeah, that's scary, likeyou know, as a man, it's like
you see, a like, all right, it'sone of us.
Yeah, yeah, but like as a woman, yeah, yeah, that's like that's
like a giant at the door andyou know for a fact.

Speaker 1 (01:45:20):
Hey bro, I'm not gonna make it yeah, yeah, oh my
god, yeah, yeah, it's different,and and he has a gun too.

Speaker 2 (01:45:27):
You know and he cuts your family.

Speaker 1 (01:45:28):
So you hear the gunshots.
Pow, pow pow pow pow yeah allover the house and then he's
like, yeah, what do you want meto?
Do yeah yeah, it's already done.
What do?
You want me to do?
You know what?
The fuck?
Yeah, absolutely insane.

(01:45:49):
Oh, that's a.
Yeah, for sure, it's like that's, you know.
So that's what I mean.
Of course, there's only 1% ofmen like that.
That's killing your wholefamily.
But there's another part ofdomestic violence, and that's
prevalent.
Loyalty is even harder to find.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Protective providers stand upis minimal too.

(01:46:13):
So, when you have individuals.
That's where I bring myconfidence and security.
As I grow up as a man, it'slike, hey man, this Because for
me I'm loyal when I'm not acheater.
But a part of that is I like mypeace.
Yeah.
I think I've talked about it aton.

(01:46:33):
I just like peace at the end ofthe day.
I don't want to come home withstrife, I can't.
I like peace in my mind, yeah.
I don't like the things ofliving in guilt yeah, because
that's overbearing.

Speaker 2 (01:46:45):
Yeah, I don't like that shit.

Speaker 1 (01:46:48):
Yeah, to start feeling bad and to hide and
conceal things.
My piece is just too much.
It's too important.

Speaker 2 (01:46:56):
Yeah, I completely agree with that.
That shit fucks me up.
You got to think too much Everytime I've lied about anything.
Usually that shit is playing inthe back of my head and then
you got to be on 10 whenanything is close to that lie.

(01:47:17):
So like, make sure this liedoesn't go certain.
It's too much.

Speaker 1 (01:47:23):
Exactly, exactly.
Yeah.
Like, yeah, I can lie solidly,but yeah, I can't Eventually.
I'm a person, person I'm gonnaslip up yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah, yeah.
I'm not gonna always rememberlike damn I need to lie about
this instance you know, what Imean yeah, yeah, so, yeah

(01:47:44):
because yeah, so it's noimportant living in that world,
yeah no I can't, I literallycannot do that I saw myself in
certain moments.

Speaker 2 (01:47:56):
I'm like bro did you not about that life bro?
You're really not.
You're not, bro, you could.
Yeah, this is just not my life,but yeah, this was a good, good
episode.
Yeah, yeah, oh shit, yeah, thisis the longest one.

Speaker 1 (01:48:10):
Huh, yeah, exactly.
Well, this is um two for theculture there we go.
Uh, we love y'all.
We'll be back, peace.

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