August 14, 2025 • 58 mins
Justin and Ray dive deep into the purpose behind human connections and how relationships often serve as mirrors reflecting parts of ourselves that need attention or healing. They explore the spiritual dimensions of personal growth, sharing vulnerable stories about self-discovery through repeatedly asking "why" until reaching core beliefs that drive behavior.
• Ray shares how a brief connection with a spiritually-minded woman triggered a profound journey of self-reflection
• Discussion of "spiritual chills" and intuitive guidance that many people experience but rarely develop
• Exploration of a powerful self-reflection technique involving repeatedly asking "why" to uncover root beliefs
• Reflections on past relationships and how they served as vehicles for personal growth
• Thoughts on the balance between optimism and realism in romantic relationships
• Conversation about marriage expectations and the importance of knowing yourself before committing
• Insights into how connections that seem brief or insignificant can catalyze major life changes
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
And we are back for another episode of Two for the
Culture.
I'm Justin Devante Steven.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Ray.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
Yes, sir, we're back.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
I feel like it's been longer than a week since I.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
It does feel like it's been longer than a week.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
Yeah, exactly, it definitely does I guess because
we didn't really get to hang toomuch this weekend, it's because
your daughter's birthday.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Yeah right, my daughter's birthday.
How was that?
It was dope, it was dope.
We, uh, you know, we chilled,we, uh uh, watched movies, we
went to dave and buster's andthen, um, you know, got her a
few toys and then, after that,you know, she, she went with her
mom and she did like the secondpart to her birthday okay, you
(00:43):
know what she did uh, she wentto, uh, some jumping place and
she didn't know it, but a coupleof her friends were there and
uh, and she got more gifts there.
So, um, she had a very, veryeventful weekend and how old is
she now?
Speaker 1 (01:00):
she's nine now, oh she getting old for her.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah , yeah, she's definitely getting
older, so that's, that's dope,and she's just like growing.
I was looking at my, uh, my, myphoto album and just seeing,
like even just simply a year ago, the difference in her height
and her like, the, thestructural changes of her face
she has a new face every every.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
like four years I got you.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
So it's pretty cool to see.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Yeah, does it feel like time's flying by?
Speaker 2 (01:33):
When I look at the photos, when I look at the photo
album, it's like, yeah, likeeven when she was here, she's
like developing, like her brainis just at a different level.
So like I is just is, is, is,it's at a different level.
So like I'm just chilling andI'm like which, uh, so what toy
you want?
And then she's scrolling onAmazon and she's like, hmm, I
(01:53):
don't like this girl.
Bye, get out of here, you know.
And then, oh, I like thissleigh, love it, that it.
I'm like this is a whole girl.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Right, yeah, it's not a baby or anything.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
So it's hilarious to chill with her and see her
personality coming out now andstarting to expand.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
So it's really dope, yeah, because the reason why I
said that is because nine yearsago, of course, that's when you
had her, but then another nineyears from now she'll be an
adult.
So, yeah, yeah, so, whoa, yeah.
So now, thinking about that,it's like has time plied out,
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flied um, flown by since thistime, since she was born?
Then it's gonna be, you know,just as quick when she's an
adult now oh my god, that wasnine years ago.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Wow, not 18.
18 is crazy yeah that's that'sout of high school oh my god.
And she got her early birthday,so she, she, probably she might
be out by 17.
Oh, that's what you're sayingor late early late I don't know,
she's younger than yeah, mostof people yeah right, she'll be
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graduated by 17 because Igraduated at 17.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
oh, okay, okay okay, yeah, you're 100, right, yeah
and uh.
So I was just thinking aboutparenthood, you know, and how
quick that flies by.
That's crazy.
And you want more kids, right?
Speaker 2 (03:28):
I do.
I want like at least two more.
I mean, hopefully I find a wife.
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
No, I'm just thinking about how much older she'll be
to them.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
You know, I thought about that earlier today.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
I was like you know if I want more kids.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
I kind of gotta have them now, like you don't got to,
I don't have to, but I wouldprefer that because, yeah, I'm
33, so when they're 20, uh, 53,I'll be 53, and then, when
they're 30, an actual adult.
You know, 63, that's like agood age to to be.
So I'd rather I don't know, I'drather I would.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
I would have wanted it to play out like that, but
I'm not right, right, and youknow where's kissing there, she
can watch her, your babies rightyeah yeah, no, that'll be wild.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
That'll be wild.
She'll have like a youngersibling.
I can.
I can probably see her momgetting married or some shit
before I do.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Okay, I mean who?
Speaker 2 (04:29):
knows Right, who knows?
Do you want to be married?
Speaker 1 (04:33):
Yeah, okay, I'm just saying is there a requirement
for you to be married and havekids?
Yeah, okay, okay, so that's.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
I mean, requirement is pretty heavy, but I prefer
yeah, right, strong prefer.
Yeah, exactly yeah, strongprefer.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Yeah, I mean, of course things don't happen the
way they plan to Facts, yeah,but I'm just saying that's the
goal is to get married, thenhave kids.
You know, because some peopleare just like, hey, I'll have
kids and you know, I'd neverwant to be married.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Yeah, you know, I'd never want to be married.
Yeah, yeah, hopefully I don't,hopefully I don't go down that
way.
I'm like in the middle rightnow.
I feel like my soul wants awife.
I think I said before my soulwants a wife, but like I don't
know man I'm not sure like,especially like being on my own
and stuff, and it's like I don'tgotta think too much about
everything I'd love.
I'd love a companion I'd loveto like.
Um, it just seems like a lot islost you know when, once you,
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it's just got to be the rightperson that's all it is.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Do you know what you're looking for?
Well, I don't feel like you'rereally looking.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
You're not dating to marry right, uh, if I date
anybody, it would be to, um, ifI make anyone my girlfriend, I
see like qualities of a wife inthat person.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
It wouldn't be just to make that person a girlfriend
well, I guess my question iswait and I understand that is
that if you go on a date, theidea is like, hey, I'm looking
to find my next companion, or isit just to go on a date because
I want some companionship,because I feel like it's you
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know how we've been hanging outlately I feel like it's more
like the companionship.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Like I'm just looking to have somebody to hang with,
more so than I'm looking toactually find a lifelong partner
.
Yeah, anytime, I've met a girland we ended up actually dating
it.
That wasn't the intention atfirst.
I just know what I like, solike I usually come into it in a
way, you phrase that becausethat sounds for, for instance,
um you, you're correct like insome way.
I'm not necessarily looking for,so I'm very interested in
connections like I feel like, uh, when you connect with somebody
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, it's a visual representationof a mirror of something about
you, like yourself.
If, if you understand what I'msaying, if I connect with
somebody, there's something inthem that I see that is
mirroring from my energy.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
Okay, I've never um, not, no, and not only that is,
I've not thought about that formyself.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Not only that, I've not thought about that for
myself, yeah, so I just think ofit like that and certain
connections are.
It just kind of speaks to whoyou are at, whatever point of
life you're at, for example, sowhen you get with somebody and
by the time, unfortunately, ifthat relationship ends, then now
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y'all are at two differentplaces.
But in the beginning y'all wereprobably mirroring certain
things.
That was that y'all connectedon.
But you know, you might growapart and all that type of shit
to where y'all aren't like.
You could grow out of somethingor be in two totally different
places with somebody.
But you know, when you firstmet them y'all were like there,
(08:08):
you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
You could grow out of something or be in two totally
different places with somebody.
But you know, when you first metthem, y'all were like there.
You know what I'm saying.
I mean, I understand that partof it.
But yeah, and you know now, asI get and I'm sure you probably
feel somewhat similar is nowthat I get older, it's, you know
, growing apart is, I'm notgoing to say, much more
difficult, difficult, but it'slike phases of your life and of
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course I can't speak to reallythe future.
Whom I'm going to be, I wouldimagine now just be like a just
a tier different from what I amnow.
But you know, like what Iwanted at 18 is going.
It's completely different thanthen, I wouldn't even say
completely different, but it'sdifferent than I wouldn't out.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
I see the world differently right, I'm sure it's
gonna be.
They attract different people,you know same right, right, yeah
, yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
And you know, I think when I was younger, I probably
could have settled for I'm notgonna say anything, but I could
have settled for less.
Yeah, that's what I meant.
Yeah, yeah, anything, but Icould have settled for less.
Yeah, that's what I meant.
Yeah, yeah, like that you canhave a certain amount of.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Let's say you go to a place and you have a certain
amount of women there.
Let's say there's like it's tenwomen there and depending on
what place you are in your life,you will attract instead of
this one, it would be herinstead of her it would be her.
You know what?
I'm saying yeah, so I just lookat, I just look at connections,
(09:30):
just like what is this for?
Like what is?
I look at everything as like,um, I don't know damn near.
Like it's already written in away just like, what is this
connection for like?
What is this for like?
For instance, less say a whileago, I connected with a girl and
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she was like super spiritual,right, and nothing really went
anywhere with that.
But because she was sospiritual, after like talking to
her for like a day or some, Ium, um, um, all right, was to it
(10:12):
.
This happened last week, allright.
So, um yeah, last week I Italked to somebody and super,
super, duper spiritual, likeerica badu type, looking do you
like that?
Speaker 1 (10:26):
super super, duper, spiritual, like erica badu type
looking.
Do you like that?
Uh, I like, I like pretty women.
No, do you like the?
The?
Speaker 2 (10:31):
spirituality of erica badu.
I don't really know erica badu,so I I just said the look, the
look of then I'm just sayinggoing off the vibe.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
I don't really know.
Erica badu, I'll answer thequestion.
No, I don't like that but go.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
I don't know.
I don't have a certain type butso she's like nature earthy
nature, earthy tree hugger,literally.
Yes, so, but she's very pretty,very, very pretty woman.
But no, I just had aconversation with her.
It didn't go anywhere, likenothing crazy and simply, it was
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just simply that right.
And, like I said, I just lookat everything, like connections
are just, they're supposed to bethere, like it's supposed to
mirror something.
You know, if I actually end upconnecting with this person.
So I talked to her for a second, we was on the phone for a
little bit, whatever.
It didn't really go anywhere atall.
Boom, after that really haven'theard from her, even like hit
her up at all after that.
It's like a mutual thing, butuh, high by situation.
(11:30):
But what I will say is, after Ispoke to her, she, um, like I
said, she was a very, veryspiritual person, um way more
connected to I don't know thingsthan than.
I am, and I started to getcurious and right after I uh, uh
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talked to her the next day, Iwas like, damn, you know, I'll
be looking up a lot of shit, andthere are certain things with
me that happen that I feel likekind of like supernatural or
whatever.
That feels like I'm connected toGod and all this.
So I just went down a rabbithole.
I went down a rabbit hole andthen I ended up finding like
(12:12):
better ways to connect, likebetter, better ways to meditate,
better ways to um, to uh, uh,uh, strengthen that uh
connection right with mepersonally.
And then I started to implementthose.
Then, a day or two later, Istarted now the girl's gone,
(12:33):
right, so now I'm just on thisme thing.
So then I started to implementthose things and I started to go
deeper within myself right, andI ain't telling anybody, but
I'm not gonna go too too deepbut uh, there are a lot of
things that happened with me inpast relationships and past like
um, things that I didn't thinkwas traumatic for me but was,
(12:55):
and I was just trying to divedeeper into that and, uh, I just
found ways to deal with thosethings?
Speaker 1 (13:03):
Was it painful when you dove deep?
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Yes, it was like and before I go to the second part
and actually like dive into this, what I set that up for was to
tell you like sometimes speakingto somebody ain't about getting
into a relationship with them.
Sometimes it's just like like aconnection that was supposed to
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happen, for something else tohappen.
So that's how I'd be looking atstuff sometimes.
So, um, that's what I meant byit Ain't necessarily all about
like, if I see a girl and I'mlike, all right, am I going to
marry you?
Like it's more so, like what isthis even about?
Or why, how did how, why did weeven connect in the first place
?
So that's just how I look atthings.
Now, second part now this isjust something that I feel like
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everybody should do, right.
So I sat down and I had thesethings where I felt like I went
through certain things that Ididn't know that was traumatic
for real.
But it's kind of like arollover, like a snowball effect
, like you go through somethingand then, for some reason, even
if you forgive this person oreven if you get through these
things, there's this like,there's this like it's like the
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symptoms are still there.
It's like the you got cured forcovet, but you still can't
taste or smell, right.
So, and I didn't know why, Istill had these things in my
head, that was just stilllingering.
And then I was like, all right,I'm gonna deal with it.
Because when I looked up thespiritual stuff, it said like,
like to connect closer to youknow, the divine spirit,
whatever you have to deal withyour traumas because that's like
in your body, stuck there andin your cells.
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And I'm like all right, so letme try that.
So I sat down and I feel likeeverybody should do this.
I sat down and I was like whydo I have these feelings?
And then I feel like everybodyshould do this, bro, I sat down
and I was like, why do I havethese feelings?
And then I'm like, okay, well,this person did this.
And then you just keep askingyourself why and this ain't just
no simple like thing, right,and you have to be completely
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honest with yourself becauseit's not going to work either
other way.
So I was like, okay, becausethey did this thing.
Why did they do that thing?
Well, because you did thisthing.
Why did they do that thing?
Well, because you did that.
Why did I do that?
Oh, because I'm skipping overthe stuff that's like meant for
me.
I'll tell you after the podcastand then I'll go to like the
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the root of everything, becauseI did blah, blah, blah.
Why did you do blah, blah, blah?
And then I was like because itwas hard to like keep my word.
Why was it hard to keep yourword?
Now I'm saying this fast to you, but this was really hard for
me to get to every single levelof this thing.
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So every time I asked me aquestion, it got, I got more
emotional and I had to search,like, for the answer, the real
answer, not like oh, I just gotdistracted, like why?
Why are you getting distracted?
Because I could stay on task.
Why can you stay on task?
Because I didn't what I say, Ididn't what did.
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I say I didn't believe that Icould stay on task.
Why don't you believe that youcan?
You see how deep it's getting.
It's not even about the issue.
Now it's like me and I said sowhy?
Why don't I feel by this timeI'm crying?
So I'm like, why don't I feelby this time I'm crying?
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So I'm like, why don't I feelthat I can finish a task?
And then it got to.
I don't, but what is it?
I don't think I'm strong enoughto.
Yeah, I don't think I'm strong.
Now, every time it goes down,now it's taking longer for me.
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I was sitting there for like 40minutes with myself, so, and
then I got to.
I don't believe I'm strongenough to do what I say,
basically why I didn't believein myself, why, why I didn't
believe in myself, why and thenit got to.
It got all the way down to.
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I didn't believe in God orGod's plan enough, and that was
the last thing.
And then I was like I was likeboohooing at that point.
It was just like I felt like Iwas like I was like boohooing at
that point.
It was just like I felt like Iwas talking to God himself, like
, and it all came from me justsaying hey to this girl, right,
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you see what I'm saying.
So, like, some connections isjust is meant for other things.
So I'm just like open for that.
But I think everybody should dothat.
I feel like I'm spiritually ina different place than, like
probably the past I don't knowhowever many years just from
this past week alone, because Irealized, like you can literally
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dig into yourself and it wasn'tjust that that traumatic
experience or I don't want toput too much on the traumatic,
but like, because people reallybe going through shit but, um,
that experience, that kind oflike, stayed with me.
It was the surface level thingand I had to.
When I got deeper into all ofthat and I like dealt with that
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and like cried about it and andlet all that stuff out, it
opened my mind up to many otherthings that happened in my life
or many other setbacks that Idid for myself, many other ways
that I pulled myself down, andit just opened my mind to, oh
shit, like this is all connected, everything is connected.
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It ain't just about thatsituation, it's just like there
was something going on with me.
So, yeah, yeah, that was thatwas.
That was something that I wentthrough last, yeah, like last
week yeah, that's super dope.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
There it is.
Yeah, that's a lot ofself-reflecting, you know, yeah,
I'm a self reflective person,not that I probably in some
moments I've gotten deep with it, like trying to understand why
my decision was that decision.
I do that frequently, but maybenot keep on asking my question
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to that.
Uh, keep on asking myself thatquestion on why and why.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
But I'm like, why did I do?
Speaker 1 (19:20):
that like what made me answer behave in that manner
that was like inappropriate yada, yada, um.
So I do that, but maybe notinto that death and I probably
need to go there.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
I've never done, I've never done it I was telling
other excuse me, other friendsabout that.
That's um, this I've never doneit, I just saw, I read it.
I was just trying to figure outhow to get closer to like, just
be more spiritual and like tryto, you know, get, get a better
connection.
And it said to do that and thenI was like I'll try.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
I was kind of scared to do that.
Yeah, it was like you can'tlose this?
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Who's it?
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
Cause I've heard I've heard this before what you just
said.
I've heard it before, so that'swhy I asked that question yeah,
um, uh, uh, um uh.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
Remember how I told you.
Oh well, well, I got it fromjust looking up on google and it
was a whole bunch of thingsthat pop up, so it'd be reddit
this, this, that other peopletelling their stories and things
like that.
And I told you um before how Isaid how, um, if I'm at like a
crossroad or some shit, and I'vebeen like this for a long time
that if I go left or if I have achoice to either go left or
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right, I'm gonna like reallythink about that shit and there
will be like some chill orsomething that happens.
That I told you it feels likesupernatural, that like, if I
look to the right and I get sometype of chill or whatever, I'm
going right and I never knew whyI had those things.
And then, when I had thatconversation with her, kind of
like, I'm like, damn, I'll begoing on rabbit holes about the
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grid going down and um, you know, astrology sometimes, or or
earth and all this, I'm like Inever did that for me, like that
thing that that I feel.
And then I'll start looking itup and I'm like it's a thing
like there are many other peoplethat have that thing and it's
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called spiritual chills and somepeople call it psychic chills
and I was, you know, I don'tknow, like it's it.
I just went down a rabbit holewith that.
I don't know.
I'm just a full, firm believerthat that is not no normal shit.
And I swear to God, when I wasreading how to get closer and
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shit, you would have thought Iwas in an ice bath.
It has never been when I satthere and I was meditating, my
eyes meditating my eyes.
I look like one of the monks, uh, and I was asking myself, like
why?
And trying to go deeper anddeeper and deeper.
I have never felt a chill thatstrong, ever so, like, there's
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this I'm connected to something,you know I'm saying so, I'm a
firm believer in that shit now.
But, um, yeah, it's not, it'sit's.
There are a lot of other peoplethat have that and I feel like,
uh, we just have to find waysto, um, tap into that, that
intuitive spirit.
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You know, I feel like everybodygot something and more people I
mean some people have, you know, different ways of of feeling
certain things or whatever.
But uh, yeah, I don't think it'sjust like some random thing
anymore, especially aftersitting there and like that was
the strongest random thing,random thing as in like yeah,
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you know, sometimes I feel likeGod be talking to me.
Sometimes I feel like I got likereally good intuition and,
da-da-da-da, I feel like we needto like treat that shit like
Harry Potter in a way, like yougo to this school and you
develop this task, you developthis power or whatever you know
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you want to call it.
Like I feel like we should bedoing that in this lifetime
rather than just saying like,yeah, you know, sometimes I talk
to God and da, da, da, da, da.
Like how do you maximize thatshit?
You know?
Speaker 1 (23:18):
so that's like some type of shit I've been on lately
.
Okay, and you're spitting, yeah, okay, and um, you, you're
spitting, yeah, uh.
There's something I wanted toadd to the conversation and it
was, uh, when you talked aboutthe uh free spirit lady that you
met, um, and sometimes it's notum about, like, why she enter,
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why she entered my life, whatwas the purpose?
Sometimes they're gonna be like, why is you into hers?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, cuz she's a,she's a being as well.
So you know, you, she, you knowthere's also sometimes it she
may not be able to, you know,lend to your growth that person,
whoever, but you can maybe lendto theirs.
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Yeah, absolutely, yeah, yeah,yeah.
So that's something I want toadd that you know, like every
person that enters your lifecould be in a learning lesson,
but also you could be a learninglesson for them.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
Absolutely, uh, I definitely take that to um, I'm
aware of that, which is whyplatforms like this I mean, the
deeper I go with that stuff,most likely I will save some
things for me, just to protectit, because I don't know where
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it's gonna go.
But I am aware that at least youknow, like we have we have
conversations sometimes, um, butI do feel like I'm a vessel for
something.
So, like other friends I have, Iwill, like sit and talk to them
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and like tell them I'm onlytalking with one other person,
like what I just said, uh, and II said that to to him
specifically to help him like,and whatever he got going on,
and whoever, or platforms likethis.
You know, I feel like that'skind of what it's for as well,
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like the, the more, uh, Ielevate mentally, spiritually,
physically, like it's it'ssupposed to be on somewhat of a
display, because how else, howelse would I have known to do
that if that shit wouldn't, if Iwasn't able to look it up, you
know, or it find me in myfrequency or whatever I'm
(25:44):
thinking right now.
So, yeah, no, I definitely.
I don't think I was much, for Ididn't even talk to her about
it because we really like, likeI said, that was like a high by
situation.
But but for people I do, I amaware of that that I can
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possibly like change someoneelse's mindset or help do that.
So I I do try to like givewhatever information I can
because, um, I'll be needingthat shit are you, are you
curious about her?
Speaker 1 (26:21):
not really, okay, I was just asking no, not really
okay.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Yeah, she, uh, she ain't gonna watch this but uh,
yeah, she, uh, she.
She went live Like one day andit was just like Nigga after
nigga In the comments, and thenshe was like Just Y'all blow
some kisses for me when I butbefore I leave, and it was just
Hella, niggas blowing kisses andI was like I'm outta here, so
(26:48):
why did that bother you?
Speaker 1 (26:49):
I'm not finna be one of these.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
I mean.
So why did that bother you?
I'm not going to be one ofthese.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
I understand that.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
We're just not.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
Why is that her fault ?
Speaker 2 (26:57):
It ain't her fault.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
No, I'm just saying, like there's a certain, but it
sounded like it was a clear turnoff.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
It ain't got nothing to do with hers specifically,
but I feel like you know somepeople you can have certain
conversations with and it canbenefit both of you, but it ends
there.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
Yeah, so that's all I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
I mean, yeah, we don't know that, though we don't
know God's plans.
It's not like he just flippedyou the script real quick so you
can read over it Like oh, sheain't supposed to, she's
supposed to stop right here.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, we don't know anything.
That's a fact.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
That's why I said like I'm just very interested in
like the connections in general, like what is this?
Speaker 1 (27:44):
for.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
Because there are people that I've had
conversations with and then likethat shit dead for two years
and then all of a sudden theypop back up and like, hey,
what's going on?
Now we're more friends than wewere back then.
So I I don't know, I'm notlooking for anything, though but
I was just saying how like thebutterfly effect, basically okay
.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
So how crazy it is to so why?
Um crazy it is to so why?
Why do you think that?
Speaker 2 (28:20):
bothered you.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, if we go intothe wise in line?
Speaker 1 (28:26):
I know, no, I ain't in line, but nothing no, so
you're saying you pretty muchlike I value myself more to to
follow suit with what, what allthe other men doing, but yeah,
I'm not finna be the fifth oneyeah, you don't have to do
kisses, but you can still beinterested in her because you
know, for whatever reason, no,for sure, I just.
(28:48):
I just wasn't gonna be in theseventh one, okay, like sending,
but I feel like that was aturnoff in her to where you
didn't want to reach out to heranymore no, we, I mean it's a
hey and okay like I said, it'snot, and this is a person you
met here in Nashville.
I didn't meet anybody okay, I'mafter this free spirit lady you
was talking about.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
Yeah, no, I never met her.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
Oh okay, oh okay.
No, it was just like some.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
Internet shit, yeah, just internet shit.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
Okay, I got you Okay.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
Yeah, no, it wasn't nothing crazy All right
Understood.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
Yeah, no no, no no no , you know I like I don't know
Some women.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
they're so beautiful, but like I don't know Not her
specifically, but like anythingthat feels like you're.
I don't know.
I don't know her like that, soI don't even want to group that
in.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
Yeah, yeah I feel like it's just so much harder to
meet somebody and get to knowtheir spirit for real on the
internet on the internet.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
Oh, um, yeah, for sure, not for sure, but I mean
we had a conversation though.
So, like we was like on thephone, so I, you know, I kind of
like picked up on certain vibesand stuff, so it wasn't just
like a so.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
So when you first talked to her, it was like, yeah
, this probably ain't gonna lastlong actually yeah, and then
she hit me up randomly.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
Yeah, and she hit me up randomly, and then that
sparked like us uh speakingwhich sparked everything else
okay so I don't know, so I don'tknow why.
I don't know why she did it.
She don't even follow me, sookay, what was she saying?
Speaker 1 (30:39):
hey, big head, what was it?
Speaker 2 (30:42):
no, it's just just just.
Just.
Hey, I don't know likesomething was funny.
She sent it to me, okay, and itjust start.
It just sparked something okay,I got you.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
Yeah, I understand, yeah, yeah so it wasn't.
It wasn't that crazy okay, sodo you treat um, are you like
that with ladies who you see,see around is like hey she,
she's so beautiful, she'sprobably getting a lot of other
men's attention, so you won'tmove in that direction?
Speaker 2 (31:10):
no, anybody beautiful is getting hella attention.
I don't think I ever want tosee a girl's dm like ever,
because that is just like kindof hurt your heart a little bit.
So I'm good on that you know,the prettier the woman, the you
got to multiply by 10 the or 100of how much dms they got.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
She said that too.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
She was like I just get so many DMS and that it uh,
and I'm like it's crazy, that'sa different world for a pretty
woman on social media yeah, it'sthat's kind of like it's too
much.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
I feel like it's too.
So do you?
You feel like that messes upher head a little bit.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
You just mean like them in general.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
Like they're getting so much validation how?
Can they put their stock intoone person, knowing that there's
so many other men that wantthem.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
Yeah, you got to be like.
Sometimes I'm just kind of Ithought about that too.
I was like man to see, you know, to get replies from certain
people, sometimes over like theyears.
I thought about it.
I'm like, you know, thesepeople probably got so many
(32:24):
goddamn messages and shit.
My blue check must like help alittle bit.
And even that ain't enoughBecause I'll be going on some
people's pages like oh, she'scute the game like this photo.
Nick Cannon follows this girl.
Da-da-da-da, Nick Cannon.
First of all, he's knocking upeverybody.
But yeah, I'll see all that.
I'm like, wow, it's that.
(32:45):
I wouldn't say it's that easy.
But when you're pretty onsocial media, you're
automatically marketed to likeeverybody.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
I mean Nick.
Nick Cannon gets a lot of money.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
Fairly good looking guy Right With a huge amount of
clout and is highly intelligent.
So, yeah, that makes sense.
It does, but yeah, so I that,um, we're all one of ones, right
?
There's nobody like us.
Our dna is unique and different.
Um, so it's just what youconnect to.
(33:22):
So that's why yeah yeah, Ithink we all can get stuck in
that place of where it's likeyou know, dang she got.
Why is she choosing me?
but, at the same time is youoffer something you're going to.
Always.
Any person is going to offersomething different than what
somebody else will.
(33:42):
Yeah, because you have nobodygrew up in your shoes.
You have a different experience, a different mindset, so it's
just what connects with you tothat person why they may want to
stick around or not.
You know and and that's kind ofthe, the value that I know I
bring is like hey I'm.
I know I'm not going to be meantfor everybody, not everybody,
(34:02):
I'm not going to be desired byeverybody, right?
But I know the value that I dobring, I know the love that I do
bring, I know the care that Ido bring.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So you know it.
It ain't going to be foreverybody, but I know there's.
I was like I know I'm doing somuch more.
Yeah yeah, yeah, than thetypical, so I can sleep at night
at the end of the day, yeah nofor a fact.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
That's definitely how I live.
So that's why I say it Likenowadays definitely how I live.
So that's why I said likenowadays.
Anyway, I just be looking atconnections kind of differently
just like, what is this for?
what is what is?
And a couple previousconnections that I had.
I think that I was somethingfor them.
You know, like in um, certaincertain aspects, um, but that's
(34:50):
definitely how I think about it.
I'm not like like, why did theypick me?
I think maybe I was like thatbefore, but yeah, nowadays it's
it's more so.
What is this?
What is this for?
What's the grand scheme?
I think, because it's alwayssomething like.
It's always something when Iget to know somebody.
(35:10):
It's deeper than just just likea simple conversation.
It's always like some somethingthat is that I self-reflect on,
um, I get to know a person.
They do a couple things intheir life that I wish I could
get better at, or, you know,it's always some reason for
these, uh, connections and I doyou think you're okay?
Speaker 1 (35:34):
well, I'll answer my question.
What I think is happening, Ithink that you're making a lot
of connections.
So that was I was gonna ask youdo you think you're making a
lot of connections?
I'm gonna just say, I thinkthat you're making a lot of
connections, mm-hmm, and isthere a reason why one of those
are not sticking?
Oh, out of the connections thatI've had, yeah, um because,
(36:00):
there's been a lot ofconversations, a lot of
exchanging numbers and you knowI haven't seen.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
You know one just penetrate um I, I mean it's just
like every now and then I mean.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
So you're making way more connections than any other
average dude would let's calmdown a little bit.
No, I'm that's.
That's the truth, doesn'tmatter you know, like.
I think it was something like aman and I'm overstating the
number.
A man will never.
An average man will never sleepmore than seven women.
(36:39):
I think that's like.
I think I'm overstating thenumber.
Speaker 2 (36:45):
Yeah, I mean I'm not out there.
Speaker 1 (36:49):
I'm just bringing that to set the stage.
So if that's the case, then theamount of chances they have to
exchange numbers aresignificantly less than what you
had over the past, since youtransitioned to a different
(37:10):
setting.
Speaker 2 (37:11):
You talking about, like Raystall City?
No, I was talking about here,yeah, yeah, the the past, since
you um transitioned to adifferent setting.
You're talking like, right, so?
Speaker 1 (37:12):
city.
Uh, no, no, let's talk abouthere and yeah, yeah um yeah, for
sure.
So I'm just saying like, someof those connections is like
okay, is it because you're at,not at a place to want something
stronger?
And that kind of it sets me tothe original question of when I
(37:34):
asked about like, are you datingto marry um?
Speaker 2 (37:38):
I mean I like.
I said I like what I like.
So when usually, when it comesto a point which is, it only
happened twice in the past,maybe three but, two to three
times in the past.
What ten years that I?
So I mean I was in a six yearrelationship, so that's six
(38:03):
years off top just gone.
It's a very long time.
So gone as in not in a negativesense yeah.
But, just like you know, likeyou skipped six years out of
that alone.
Speaker 1 (38:17):
How do you feel about I'm sorry to cut it off and
talk to something different howdo you feel about six years in
general?
Like being in a relationshipwith somebody and it not be the
ending that you wanted, do you?
Is it like?
Are you somewhat resentful ofno like?
Speaker 2 (38:35):
damn I wish.
Speaker 1 (38:36):
This was at least four.
You know what I?
Speaker 2 (38:38):
mean resentful of the amount of years.
Speaker 1 (38:40):
Well, because you got the six years, then you got
healing yeah, yeah, yeah yeah,so you got that too yeah, yeah,
and and if, if you really cometo a place of healing, i'm'm
sure it is at one point.
I don't know if you're fullythere, but no, I am Okay, I'm
definitely there.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, yeah,but.
Speaker 2 (38:57):
I'm not resentful of the time.
You know that was a verytransitional time period for me
and I'm glad that happened then.
And I'm glad that happened thenBecause if it happened later.
Yeah, I just wouldn't wantsomething like that to happen
later.
Like the amount of lessons thatI learned in that relationship
(39:21):
were just grand.
Did you ever want to leave,leave her.
Yeah, I was so committed thatany time that I thought I just
want to be to myself, I wouldtalk myself out of it.
Yeah, so if we, if we weren'tin, if we weren't seeing eye to
(39:44):
eye, if we, if, you know, ifthings just weren't going well,
then you know, I would say thesethings to myself, like I'm in
it till I'm out of it, and whichmeans I'm fully in this.
You know, I'm not gonna tellmyself that I'm gonna break up
with.
I was just, I was thatcommitted, uh, to the
(40:04):
relationship that anytime, youknow, those thoughts of how I
say like your words becomereality.
It started then, like in thatrelationship and I would see, I
would visually see, if one dayI'm like I can't deal with this
girl, that day would be that.
(40:25):
And then there were days whereI would wake up where I say I
don't know if this shit going towork out and I'm like no Words
are real.
If I want this shit to work.
It's going to work, and I wouldtry five times harder that day,
and that day would be a totaldifferent outcome.
So when it came down to likeman breaking up and all that, I
(40:49):
would talk myself out of it andsay something super positive to
myself to uh, to, to, to likeveer me back on the path of
commitment yeah, and they peopletalk about.
Speaker 1 (41:00):
And that's where I don't.
I disagree with the, the lineof like words of affirmation,
like just speaking intoexistence and like I feel like
you're also blinding yourself toreality to a certain level.
Like, yeah, you can't speak,you know you can't speak.
(41:22):
Everything into existence, yeah, yeah, and that's just the
nature of the beast.
Speaker 2 (41:28):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (41:30):
Some things just going to be roadblocks yeah, so
it's not gonna be likeeverything's gonna be good as
gold, as long as I think it is.
Yeah, yeah, I mean.
So I'm saying that to say it'slike some, if I'm in prison, I'm
in prison, I can't speak likeI'm free you know, so you gotta
lend yourself to the realitysituation.
If you know, I'm not saying thatit's easy to say when it didn't
(41:54):
work out, but it's also.
I still want to live.
I don't want to still livefoolishly.
I'm like, hey, thisrelationship is going to build,
it's going to work I know it isand then you're still going to.
You know you're still going tohave the shortcomings of the
(42:17):
person that maybe not match whoyou are.
Speaker 2 (42:21):
No, I mean, that's a fact.
So I mean, yeah, there's alwaysa sense of reality with that.
But I visually see it all thetime, all the time with multiple
different relationships.
There are things that are ingirls' heads, that shit just
plays out.
There are things that peoplecan get in a person's ear.
(42:42):
That's all they think about.
Boom, that's what therelationship is.
So there is a line betweenbeing optimistic and just the
reality of the situations.
Y'all probably love each otherdifferently.
You probably you know.
The harsh truth is like maybethere's somebody out there
(43:03):
better for both of you.
Yeah, so you know you gottafigure that out.
Yeah, but I you know you got tofigure that out too, yeah, but
you know, life is just, I don'tknow.
Speaker 1 (43:16):
Do you feel like you at some point?
Did you see it coming Like,yeah, all the time.
Okay, yeah, all the time.
Throughout the whole thing.
Speaker 2 (43:24):
Yeah, you know how many times that girl wanted to
break up with me yeah, I got you.
Yeah, Hell yeah, Like that shitwas all the time and I sat
myself too and went through thatwhole thing.
You know the ending of thatrelationship.
It ended exactly how I thoughtof myself, without saying too
much about the end of therelationship, but everything
(43:49):
that happened, that's exactlywhat.
Speaker 1 (43:51):
I thought about myself.
Speaker 2 (43:52):
Well, I just had to tell you after certain ways it
played out, I had to think aboutit.
I'm like, damn, it's like yougo to a basketball game and you
didn't prepare for thebasketball game.
You ain't hooped in two weeks.
But these people on the otherteam, they've been training
(44:13):
every day and then you see themand you actually might be the
same, you might have the sameskill as them.
They actually needed to keep upwith you, but because you see
them, then you're like, once youget in your head, you're like,
damn, they are so much strongerthan me.
You're going to play weaker.
There's so much yeah.
Speaker 1 (44:34):
so once you finally lose, the game like you've been
lost before you even got on thecourt and you know there's a lot
of truth and that's what peoplesay.
You're playing to the level ofyour competition as well.
It's like if you know somepeople.
You know if they're goingagainst a weak team, they don't
play as hard, or yeah um, but itactually you saying that?
(44:56):
um just thought about why I havemy own struggles in the
relationship.
Is is and I want to see if youyou agree with me on your
relationship.
Is that?
Do you feel like your partnerdoesn't dig deep within
themselves enough the times thatshe was in it, like the
(45:18):
long-term relationship?
Um?
dig deep enough um, like justabout themselves and
self-reflect, and like wondering, because you, it's like the
times that you know, you're like, hey, I feel like she wants to
give up all the time you know orwhatever, sometimes I I can
(45:39):
like apply to my ownrelationship and be like are you
, are you willing to go deepenough into yourself and to
figure out who you truly are?
Speaker 2 (45:49):
I think there are certain points with everybody
where you're gonna have to meetthat version of yourself.
So even where I am today, Iwasn't.
When I was with her, you know,like me sitting there and trying
to figure out where is thistrauma coming from?
Where I didn't go that deepback then.
Plus, I wasn't even taking careof myself for real, to even
like get to the point of evendoing it and I think it was the
(46:11):
same thing, sort of on.
Well, she was taking better careof herself, but, um, yeah, I
think we both, yeah, we, we bothwere uh, um it it was different
for both sides, but she couldhave done better and I could
(46:32):
have done better with that ofreflecting and figuring that out
, you know.
But again, like in that thatspan of my life, that's
something that I recently had to, you know, like figure out why
why?
Because there were many thingsthat I could have improved on
and just didn't, mm.
And I knew what was wrong.
I knew exactly what was wrong.
(46:52):
I knew, you know, the thingsthat I needed to improve on.
It was like right there, it wasjust blatant and I just would
not get to the point of gettingthere and again, like, a lot of
(47:16):
that was taking care of myselfand, um, being true, true to
myself.
So I think everybody just hasto get to a certain point with
that.
That could be age, that couldbe traumatic events that could
be you know you walk outside,see god himself, I don't know.
But, um, yeah and yeah, in thatrelationship we both had a hard
time, on both sides, to likecorrect those things on a deep
(47:39):
level, of getting to the pointof being that person that we
needed to be for ourselves,which would reflect to the other
person.
Speaker 1 (47:51):
Understood.
We got one more conversationcuz I yeah, yeah, no, exactly,
because at some point I was likeI haven't talked about my whole
mom my own weekend.
But I was like man, my stuff isnot important compared to the
conversation, but but I'm it wasalright, we can talk about next
one.
Yeah, it was actually cool,though, but the last one Because
(48:15):
we were talking about marriageand relationships Is Halle Berry
.
Speaker 2 (48:20):
First husband yeah.
Speaker 1 (48:22):
His name was David Justice.
I wasn't familiar with him.
He's a baseball Former baseballplayer but he divorced Halle
Berry Because she didn't cook orclean.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (48:31):
How do Hearing?
Speaker 1 (48:32):
that baseball player but he divorced have a berry
because she didn't cook or clean.
Yeah, how do you hearing that?
Do you think that's?
But I'm sure there's morecontext to it.
Uh-huh, but just off of that,how does that?
Does that sound crazy to you,or?
Is that like.
Speaker 2 (48:45):
I wonder what the cleaning situation was yeah, I
don't know if it's like a, youdidn't clean the whole house, or
your side of the bed lookscrazy, yeah, yeah, yeah, like,
yeah, you know, your room looksfucking wild, or there's tissue
on in the bathroom floor, likeyou know.
I don't know what that was, butI kind of see it two ways.
(49:06):
Like I don't know, some thingscan just be like done with a
maid, right, right.
So like I grew up my mom didn'tcook all the time and so I
don't even look for that in awoman.
You know it's nice, it's acherry on top, but I never
experienced the home cooked mealevery single day.
(49:26):
So like, if she say she don'tfeel like cooking, I get it, I
get it, I don't eat it, you know.
So, um, but the, the, the, Idon't know it's a toss-up.
I don't know exactly fully whathe meant, how you feel about it
um, I, there's a lot of thingsthat I can.
Speaker 1 (49:49):
That I think about is um, I still, I'm on the same
fence as you as in terms of,like, okay, what is cleanliness
and what does that look like?
Yeah, um, but as far as cookingand cleaning, she's halliburton
, so she can't afford everything, you, that you can afford, so
why does she need to cook herclean, like I?
(50:10):
I?
I can understand, if you know,if she's a stay-at-home mom, I'm
like, okay, what do you bringit to the table?
But if you can, if she canpurchase, like at the end of the
day, it's time efficiency.
If she's making a lot of money,then that's dedicating her time
to cooking and cleaning.
(50:31):
It's just like inefficient towhat she got going on too like
cooking in preparation takes avery long time, right?
yeah, it's not just no thingthat you can just pop in the
oven for 15 minutes and it'sdone.
No, that's hours.
Speaker 2 (50:46):
Yeah, I think maybe that's just his love language.
Speaker 1 (50:48):
Yeah, and why didn't you know that Like at the end of
the day.
You kind of blame yourself forthat too, and I'm not saying
that he didn't.
But yeah, if cooking, if that'swhat matters to you most, yeah,
yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, it depends.
He may not have truly knownhimself, but I think those are
very hard standards, and andthen I'll have to listen to
(51:13):
interview, because that that'san absolute for you.
You're a baseball player.
You play a hundred andsomething games a year.
A hundred and something, yeah,games a year.
So how often are you at home?
Why is this an absolute?
Speaker 2 (51:30):
yeah, it sounds like, I don't know like he either
grew up.
He either grew up, and that'sthat, that was the thing, or, um
, that's one of his uh, his lovelanguages.
I think that's kind of whatthat is.
Speaker 1 (51:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (51:49):
Do you think, going back on the other stuff we was
talking about, do you think it'seasy for couples to dive deeper
, to find that inner thing thatwe were talking about, of um,
trying to be better on bothsides?
(52:10):
Do you think one side isusually like?
Speaker 1 (52:12):
yes yeah well, well, I'm and that's partially untrue,
because I know men that don'tuh, just really dig deep in
themselves at all- and they'revery selfish and yeah, so they
don't realize they're as much ofa problem as anybody else is.
So but and it's kind of unfairbecause I have a lot of friends
(52:38):
that look within themselves andyeah, so I'm looking at it at a
different angle and I know womenthat are too, but they're all
the women that I mean I speak to.
They're older.
Speaker 2 (52:53):
They've been in relationships.
Speaker 1 (52:55):
Most of them are married or been married, so it's
just completely different.
Speaker 2 (53:01):
Do they say that they had to do that type of stuff,
like later in life or comparedto your age?
Um?
Speaker 1 (53:07):
I don't know the answer to that question, um, but
then I, I learned, I see, youknow, my own relationship and
her friends is like I don't, itdoesn't feel like most of them
do that.
Um, I could be completely wrongin that, but yeah, yeah, I
don't, you know, it's kinda youknow it's it's.
(53:30):
I feel like it should be moreself reflection Than what I see.
But then again, I don't know, Idon't know him like that and I
don't have that conversationWith him like that.
So I, I literally Probably I'mjust guessing and what, how
there's you know.
You, probably I'm just guessing, and what, how there's.
You know you can see how peoplemove.
You know you can see somebody.
Hey, he looked drunk, but maybehe just you know, what I mean.
(53:52):
Yeah, yeah, maybe he just umwhatever you know, maybe he just
got his own different shoes orsomething you know what I mean.
Yeah, but and that's what it is.
It's like they just how theymove.
Doesn't look like as muchself-reflection on this side,
but I, I truly don't know um,and and then I feel like it
should feed off more.
(54:12):
Yeah, like there's a level ofwe kind of feed off on each
other it was like hey, you knowwhat you should move like, or
you should, you like.
we check each other in a waylike no, that, no, that's not
good for you, or you shouldn'tbe doing that, or you should try
this.
I mean, we talk about it on thepodcast all the time and it
could be a lot of not doing that, of not checking your own
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friends to where it could bethat too.
Speaker 2 (54:39):
Yeah, I do feel like, when I really truly think about
it, I only have those certaintype of conversations with
certain people.
Yeah, so, and then I plus Ihave to know somebody for a
while, damn near to um, or hasto be, a certain type of of
energy within me and the, theperson I'm talking to, to even
(55:01):
be able to speak about thosethings.
So maybe some people do do that,because I've heard that before
of people saying you know, I'mworking on myself, I'm dead.
But sometimes I feel likepeople just like throw that out
there, just throw that, sayingout there you know, like you
know, we're gonna usually likesingle women after a breakup.
(55:21):
That's the first thing that Ikind of hear is, like you know,
I've just been working on myself, I've and I just don't know
what that truly means.
But it depends on the person.
Speaker 1 (55:33):
It depends on the person yeah, and in terms of if
we can kind of close here soon.
But in back to that positiveaffirmation thing is like I take
when I speak to people I justkind of speak humbly in a sense
Like maybe if I'm talking a lotit can maybe get arrogant or
confidence, or it seems like heknows a lot, but I try to be
(55:56):
like, make myself less than Like, but I speak, I think highly of
myself in my mind.
Yeah, yeah, so I'll be like youknow I'm dumb, you know, or
I'll say something like that.
And to me they were like youknow you're supposed to speak,
you know yourself into existenceKing, I'm like I don't be that
deep with it because I know howmuch I value myself in my mind.
(56:21):
You know what I mean, but humbly, I'll try to come off humble.
Like hey, you know, it may bethe night.
I'll say a lot Like maybe thisis the naive side of me, maybe
it's because I don't have a lotof experience, and then I'll
state my point.
Speaker 2 (56:35):
Yeah, You're just saying like you kind of do that
for yourself, but not.
Speaker 1 (56:46):
No, I do that for other people, so they don't feel
like.
Speaker 2 (56:46):
I'm stepping on toes or boundaries, right?
No, I'm saying you do theaffirmation, that type of ordeal
, like more for yourself but notlike in, like you're not going
to a table and saying like I'm aking.
Yeah, you might leave the tableand be like these niggas like
that.
Speaker 1 (57:05):
Yeah, in a sense innocence.
Yeah, pretty much, yeah, yeahyeah, I kind of.
Speaker 2 (57:10):
Yeah, I'm here in there with that, but yeah yeah,
because I would like bro.
Speaker 1 (57:14):
Bro, why am I?
Why do I care about theiropinions?
Yeah, like I.
It's a um, it's a saying in theGame of Thrones.
Yeah, but that was a Game ofThrones reference.
It's like a lion, doesn't worryabout the opinions of a sheep.
Oh right, yeah, so that was aGame of Thrones reference, which
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is a phenomenal saying, becausethat's very true A lion ain't
going to worry about how a sheepfeels about him.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're a lion.
Why would you care?
yeah, exactly, yeah, yeah and I,and I just kind of take that
mantra with me a little bit.
Speaker 2 (57:54):
Yeah, no, that is a good one.
Um yeah, so I heard somethingelse like that too I forgot the
other one, but that in my mind.
Speaker 1 (58:01):
But I try to be humble and be like, yeah, you
know yeah, that's what?
Speaker 2 (58:06):
uh, yeah, that's what it reminded me of.
Chris brown used to dancebattle people and then
eventually he stopped dancebattling people because he's
like, why the fuck am I?
Speaker 1 (58:13):
I'm chris brown yeah, and he said something like that
yeah, so which, which makessense.
Speaker 2 (58:20):
It's like you know, you got this, this type of uh,
thought process and and way ofthinking like why even?
Speaker 1 (58:27):
why even do?
Speaker 2 (58:27):
that, so I agree with that all right.
Speaker 1 (58:30):
I feel like we did it yeah all right, well, this is
two for the culture.
We'll be back.
We'll be back, yes, sir.
And we are back for another episode of Two for the
Culture.
I'm Justin Devante Steven.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Ray.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
Yes, sir, we're back.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
I feel like it's been longer than a week since I.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
It does feel like it's been longer than a week.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
Yeah, exactly, it definitely does I guess because
we didn't really get to hang toomuch this weekend, it's because
your daughter's birthday.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Yeah right, my daughter's birthday.
How was that?
It was dope, it was dope.
We, uh, you know, we chilled,we, uh uh, watched movies, we
went to dave and buster's andthen, um, you know, got her a
few toys and then, after that,you know, she, she went with her
mom and she did like the secondpart to her birthday okay, you
(00:43):
know what she did uh, she wentto, uh, some jumping place and
she didn't know it, but a coupleof her friends were there and
uh, and she got more gifts there.
So, um, she had a very, veryeventful weekend and how old is
she now?
Speaker 1 (01:00):
she's nine now, oh she getting old for her.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah , yeah, she's definitely getting
older, so that's, that's dope,and she's just like growing.
I was looking at my, uh, my, myphoto album and just seeing,
like even just simply a year ago, the difference in her height
and her like, the, thestructural changes of her face
she has a new face every every.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
like four years I got you.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
So it's pretty cool to see.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Yeah, does it feel like time's flying by?
Speaker 2 (01:33):
When I look at the photos, when I look at the photo
album, it's like, yeah, likeeven when she was here, she's
like developing, like her brainis just at a different level.
So like I is just is, is, is,it's at a different level.
So like I'm just chilling andI'm like which, uh, so what toy
you want?
And then she's scrolling onAmazon and she's like, hmm, I
(01:53):
don't like this girl.
Bye, get out of here, you know.
And then, oh, I like thissleigh, love it, that it.
I'm like this is a whole girl.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Right, yeah, it's not a baby or anything.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
So it's hilarious to chill with her and see her
personality coming out now andstarting to expand.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
So it's really dope, yeah, because the reason why I
said that is because nine yearsago, of course, that's when you
had her, but then another nineyears from now she'll be an
adult.
So, yeah, yeah, so, whoa, yeah.
So now, thinking about that,it's like has time plied out,
(02:39):
flied um, flown by since thistime, since she was born?
Then it's gonna be, you know,just as quick when she's an
adult now oh my god, that wasnine years ago.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Wow, not 18.
18 is crazy yeah that's that'sout of high school oh my god.
And she got her early birthday,so she, she, probably she might
be out by 17.
Oh, that's what you're sayingor late early late I don't know,
she's younger than yeah, mostof people yeah right, she'll be
(03:13):
graduated by 17 because Igraduated at 17.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
oh, okay, okay okay, yeah, you're 100, right, yeah
and uh.
So I was just thinking aboutparenthood, you know, and how
quick that flies by.
That's crazy.
And you want more kids, right?
Speaker 2 (03:28):
I do.
I want like at least two more.
I mean, hopefully I find a wife.
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
No, I'm just thinking about how much older she'll be
to them.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
You know, I thought about that earlier today.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
I was like you know if I want more kids.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
I kind of gotta have them now, like you don't got to,
I don't have to, but I wouldprefer that because, yeah, I'm
33, so when they're 20, uh, 53,I'll be 53, and then, when
they're 30, an actual adult.
You know, 63, that's like agood age to to be.
So I'd rather I don't know, I'drather I would.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
I would have wanted it to play out like that, but
I'm not right, right, and youknow where's kissing there, she
can watch her, your babies rightyeah yeah, no, that'll be wild.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
That'll be wild.
She'll have like a youngersibling.
I can.
I can probably see her momgetting married or some shit
before I do.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Okay, I mean who?
Speaker 2 (04:29):
knows Right, who knows?
Do you want to be married?
Speaker 1 (04:33):
Yeah, okay, I'm just saying is there a requirement
for you to be married and havekids?
Yeah, okay, okay, so that's.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
I mean, requirement is pretty heavy, but I prefer
yeah, right, strong prefer.
Yeah, exactly yeah, strongprefer.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Yeah, I mean, of course things don't happen the
way they plan to Facts, yeah,but I'm just saying that's the
goal is to get married, thenhave kids.
You know, because some peopleare just like, hey, I'll have
kids and you know, I'd neverwant to be married.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Yeah, you know, I'd never want to be married.
Yeah, yeah, hopefully I don't,hopefully I don't go down that
way.
I'm like in the middle rightnow.
I feel like my soul wants awife.
I think I said before my soulwants a wife, but like I don't
know man I'm not sure like,especially like being on my own
and stuff, and it's like I don'tgotta think too much about
everything I'd love.
I'd love a companion I'd loveto like.
Um, it just seems like a lot islost you know when, once you,
(05:30):
it's just got to be the rightperson that's all it is.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Do you know what you're looking for?
Well, I don't feel like you'rereally looking.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
You're not dating to marry right, uh, if I date
anybody, it would be to, um, ifI make anyone my girlfriend, I
see like qualities of a wife inthat person.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
It wouldn't be just to make that person a girlfriend
well, I guess my question iswait and I understand that is
that if you go on a date, theidea is like, hey, I'm looking
to find my next companion, or isit just to go on a date because
I want some companionship,because I feel like it's you
(06:09):
know how we've been hanging outlately I feel like it's more
like the companionship.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Like I'm just looking to have somebody to hang with,
more so than I'm looking toactually find a lifelong partner
.
Yeah, anytime, I've met a girland we ended up actually dating
it.
That wasn't the intention atfirst.
I just know what I like, solike I usually come into it in a
way, you phrase that becausethat sounds for, for instance,
um you, you're correct like insome way.
I'm not necessarily looking for,so I'm very interested in
connections like I feel like, uh, when you connect with somebody
(06:52):
, it's a visual representationof a mirror of something about
you, like yourself.
If, if you understand what I'msaying, if I connect with
somebody, there's something inthem that I see that is
mirroring from my energy.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
Okay, I've never um, not, no, and not only that is,
I've not thought about that formyself.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Not only that, I've not thought about that for
myself, yeah, so I just think ofit like that and certain
connections are.
It just kind of speaks to whoyou are at, whatever point of
life you're at, for example, sowhen you get with somebody and
by the time, unfortunately, ifthat relationship ends, then now
(07:47):
y'all are at two differentplaces.
But in the beginning y'all wereprobably mirroring certain
things.
That was that y'all connectedon.
But you know, you might growapart and all that type of shit
to where y'all aren't like.
You could grow out of somethingor be in two totally different
places with somebody.
But you know, when you firstmet them y'all were like there,
(08:08):
you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
You could grow out of something or be in two totally
different places with somebody.
But you know, when you first metthem, y'all were like there.
You know what I'm saying.
I mean, I understand that partof it.
But yeah, and you know now, asI get and I'm sure you probably
feel somewhat similar is nowthat I get older, it's, you know
, growing apart is, I'm notgoing to say, much more
difficult, difficult, but it'slike phases of your life and of
(08:29):
course I can't speak to reallythe future.
Whom I'm going to be, I wouldimagine now just be like a just
a tier different from what I amnow.
But you know, like what Iwanted at 18 is going.
It's completely different thanthen, I wouldn't even say
completely different, but it'sdifferent than I wouldn't out.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
I see the world differently right, I'm sure it's
gonna be.
They attract different people,you know same right, right, yeah
, yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
And you know, I think when I was younger, I probably
could have settled for I'm notgonna say anything, but I could
have settled for less.
Yeah, that's what I meant.
Yeah, yeah, anything, but Icould have settled for less.
Yeah, that's what I meant.
Yeah, yeah, like that you canhave a certain amount of.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Let's say you go to a place and you have a certain
amount of women there.
Let's say there's like it's tenwomen there and depending on
what place you are in your life,you will attract instead of
this one, it would be herinstead of her it would be her.
You know what?
I'm saying yeah, so I just lookat, I just look at connections,
(09:30):
just like what is this for?
Like what is?
I look at everything as like,um, I don't know damn near.
Like it's already written in away just like, what is this
connection for like?
What is this for like?
For instance, less say a whileago, I connected with a girl and
(09:51):
she was like super spiritual,right, and nothing really went
anywhere with that.
But because she was sospiritual, after like talking to
her for like a day or some, Ium, um, um, all right, was to it
(10:12):
.
This happened last week, allright.
So, um yeah, last week I Italked to somebody and super,
super, duper spiritual, likeerica badu type, looking do you
like that?
Speaker 1 (10:26):
super super, duper, spiritual, like erica badu type
looking.
Do you like that?
Uh, I like, I like pretty women.
No, do you like the?
The?
Speaker 2 (10:31):
spirituality of erica badu.
I don't really know erica badu,so I I just said the look, the
look of then I'm just sayinggoing off the vibe.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
I don't really know.
Erica badu, I'll answer thequestion.
No, I don't like that but go.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
I don't know.
I don't have a certain type butso she's like nature earthy
nature, earthy tree hugger,literally.
Yes, so, but she's very pretty,very, very pretty woman.
But no, I just had aconversation with her.
It didn't go anywhere, likenothing crazy and simply, it was
(11:07):
just simply that right.
And, like I said, I just lookat everything, like connections
are just, they're supposed to bethere, like it's supposed to
mirror something.
You know, if I actually end upconnecting with this person.
So I talked to her for a second, we was on the phone for a
little bit, whatever.
It didn't really go anywhere atall.
Boom, after that really haven'theard from her, even like hit
her up at all after that.
It's like a mutual thing, butuh, high by situation.
(11:30):
But what I will say is, after Ispoke to her, she, um, like I
said, she was a very, veryspiritual person, um way more
connected to I don't know thingsthan than.
I am, and I started to getcurious and right after I uh, uh
(11:51):
talked to her the next day, Iwas like, damn, you know, I'll
be looking up a lot of shit, andthere are certain things with
me that happen that I feel likekind of like supernatural or
whatever.
That feels like I'm connected toGod and all this.
So I just went down a rabbithole.
I went down a rabbit hole andthen I ended up finding like
(12:12):
better ways to connect, likebetter, better ways to meditate,
better ways to um, to uh, uh,uh, strengthen that uh
connection right with mepersonally.
And then I started to implementthose.
Then, a day or two later, Istarted now the girl's gone,
(12:33):
right, so now I'm just on thisme thing.
So then I started to implementthose things and I started to go
deeper within myself right, andI ain't telling anybody, but
I'm not gonna go too too deepbut uh, there are a lot of
things that happened with me inpast relationships and past like
um, things that I didn't thinkwas traumatic for me but was,
(12:55):
and I was just trying to divedeeper into that and, uh, I just
found ways to deal with thosethings?
Speaker 1 (13:03):
Was it painful when you dove deep?
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Yes, it was like and before I go to the second part
and actually like dive into this, what I set that up for was to
tell you like sometimes speakingto somebody ain't about getting
into a relationship with them.
Sometimes it's just like like aconnection that was supposed to
(13:25):
happen, for something else tohappen.
So that's how I'd be looking atstuff sometimes.
So, um, that's what I meant byit Ain't necessarily all about
like, if I see a girl and I'mlike, all right, am I going to
marry you?
Like it's more so, like what isthis even about?
Or why, how did how, why did weeven connect in the first place
?
So that's just how I look atthings.
Now, second part now this isjust something that I feel like
(13:47):
everybody should do, right.
So I sat down and I had thesethings where I felt like I went
through certain things that Ididn't know that was traumatic
for real.
But it's kind of like arollover, like a snowball effect
, like you go through somethingand then, for some reason, even
if you forgive this person oreven if you get through these
things, there's this like,there's this like it's like the
(14:12):
symptoms are still there.
It's like the you got cured forcovet, but you still can't
taste or smell, right.
So, and I didn't know why, Istill had these things in my
head, that was just stilllingering.
And then I was like, all right,I'm gonna deal with it.
Because when I looked up thespiritual stuff, it said like,
like to connect closer to youknow, the divine spirit,
whatever you have to deal withyour traumas because that's like
in your body, stuck there andin your cells.
(14:35):
And I'm like all right, so letme try that.
So I sat down and I feel likeeverybody should do this.
I sat down and I was like whydo I have these feelings?
And then I feel like everybodyshould do this, bro, I sat down
and I was like, why do I havethese feelings?
And then I'm like, okay, well,this person did this.
And then you just keep askingyourself why and this ain't just
no simple like thing, right,and you have to be completely
(14:57):
honest with yourself becauseit's not going to work either
other way.
So I was like, okay, becausethey did this thing.
Why did they do that thing?
Well, because you did thisthing.
Why did they do that thing?
Well, because you did that.
Why did I do that?
Oh, because I'm skipping overthe stuff that's like meant for
me.
I'll tell you after the podcastand then I'll go to like the
(15:18):
the root of everything, becauseI did blah, blah, blah.
Why did you do blah, blah, blah?
And then I was like because itwas hard to like keep my word.
Why was it hard to keep yourword?
Now I'm saying this fast to you, but this was really hard for
me to get to every single levelof this thing.
(15:39):
So every time I asked me aquestion, it got, I got more
emotional and I had to search,like, for the answer, the real
answer, not like oh, I just gotdistracted, like why?
Why are you getting distracted?
Because I could stay on task.
Why can you stay on task?
Because I didn't what I say, Ididn't what did.
(16:07):
I say I didn't believe that Icould stay on task.
Why don't you believe that youcan?
You see how deep it's getting.
It's not even about the issue.
Now it's like me and I said sowhy?
Why don't I feel by this timeI'm crying?
So I'm like, why don't I feelby this time I'm crying?
(16:29):
So I'm like, why don't I feelthat I can finish a task?
And then it got to.
I don't, but what is it?
I don't think I'm strong enoughto.
Yeah, I don't think I'm strong.
Now, every time it goes down,now it's taking longer for me.
(16:49):
I was sitting there for like 40minutes with myself, so, and
then I got to.
I don't believe I'm strongenough to do what I say,
basically why I didn't believein myself, why, why I didn't
believe in myself, why and thenit got to.
It got all the way down to.
(17:10):
I didn't believe in God orGod's plan enough, and that was
the last thing.
And then I was like I was likeboohooing at that point.
It was just like I felt like Iwas like I was like boohooing at
that point.
It was just like I felt like Iwas talking to God himself, like
, and it all came from me justsaying hey to this girl, right,
(17:32):
you see what I'm saying.
So, like, some connections isjust is meant for other things.
So I'm just like open for that.
But I think everybody should dothat.
I feel like I'm spiritually ina different place than, like
probably the past I don't knowhowever many years just from
this past week alone, because Irealized, like you can literally
(17:55):
dig into yourself and it wasn'tjust that that traumatic
experience or I don't want toput too much on the traumatic,
but like, because people reallybe going through shit but, um,
that experience, that kind oflike, stayed with me.
It was the surface level thingand I had to.
When I got deeper into all ofthat and I like dealt with that
(18:17):
and like cried about it and andlet all that stuff out, it
opened my mind up to many otherthings that happened in my life
or many other setbacks that Idid for myself, many other ways
that I pulled myself down, andit just opened my mind to, oh
shit, like this is all connected, everything is connected.
(18:39):
It ain't just about thatsituation, it's just like there
was something going on with me.
So, yeah, yeah, that was thatwas.
That was something that I wentthrough last, yeah, like last
week yeah, that's super dope.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
There it is.
Yeah, that's a lot ofself-reflecting, you know, yeah,
I'm a self reflective person,not that I probably in some
moments I've gotten deep with it, like trying to understand why
my decision was that decision.
I do that frequently, but maybenot keep on asking my question
(19:15):
to that.
Uh, keep on asking myself thatquestion on why and why.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
But I'm like, why did I do?
Speaker 1 (19:20):
that like what made me answer behave in that manner
that was like inappropriate yada, yada, um.
So I do that, but maybe notinto that death and I probably
need to go there.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
I've never done, I've never done it I was telling
other excuse me, other friendsabout that.
That's um, this I've never doneit, I just saw, I read it.
I was just trying to figure outhow to get closer to like, just
be more spiritual and like tryto, you know, get, get a better
connection.
And it said to do that and thenI was like I'll try.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
I was kind of scared to do that.
Yeah, it was like you can'tlose this?
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Who's it?
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
Cause I've heard I've heard this before what you just
said.
I've heard it before, so that'swhy I asked that question yeah,
um, uh, uh, um uh.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
Remember how I told you.
Oh well, well, I got it fromjust looking up on google and it
was a whole bunch of thingsthat pop up, so it'd be reddit
this, this, that other peopletelling their stories and things
like that.
And I told you um before how Isaid how, um, if I'm at like a
crossroad or some shit, and I'vebeen like this for a long time
that if I go left or if I have achoice to either go left or
(20:31):
right, I'm gonna like reallythink about that shit and there
will be like some chill orsomething that happens.
That I told you it feels likesupernatural, that like, if I
look to the right and I get sometype of chill or whatever, I'm
going right and I never knew whyI had those things.
And then, when I had thatconversation with her, kind of
like, I'm like, damn, I'll begoing on rabbit holes about the
(20:53):
grid going down and um, you know, astrology sometimes, or or
earth and all this, I'm like Inever did that for me, like that
thing that that I feel.
And then I'll start looking itup and I'm like it's a thing
like there are many other peoplethat have that thing and it's
(21:14):
called spiritual chills and somepeople call it psychic chills
and I was, you know, I don'tknow, like it's it.
I just went down a rabbit holewith that.
I don't know.
I'm just a full, firm believerthat that is not no normal shit.
And I swear to God, when I wasreading how to get closer and
(21:37):
shit, you would have thought Iwas in an ice bath.
It has never been when I satthere and I was meditating, my
eyes meditating my eyes.
I look like one of the monks, uh, and I was asking myself, like
why?
And trying to go deeper anddeeper and deeper.
I have never felt a chill thatstrong, ever so, like, there's
(21:58):
this I'm connected to something,you know I'm saying so, I'm a
firm believer in that shit now.
But, um, yeah, it's not, it'sit's.
There are a lot of other peoplethat have that and I feel like,
uh, we just have to find waysto, um, tap into that, that
intuitive spirit.
(22:19):
You know, I feel like everybodygot something and more people I
mean some people have, you know, different ways of of feeling
certain things or whatever.
But uh, yeah, I don't think it'sjust like some random thing
anymore, especially aftersitting there and like that was
the strongest random thing,random thing as in like yeah,
(22:40):
you know, sometimes I feel likeGod be talking to me.
Sometimes I feel like I got likereally good intuition and,
da-da-da-da, I feel like we needto like treat that shit like
Harry Potter in a way, like yougo to this school and you
develop this task, you developthis power or whatever you know
(23:04):
you want to call it.
Like I feel like we should bedoing that in this lifetime
rather than just saying like,yeah, you know, sometimes I talk
to God and da, da, da, da, da.
Like how do you maximize thatshit?
You know?
Speaker 1 (23:18):
so that's like some type of shit I've been on lately
.
Okay, and you're spitting, yeah, okay, and um, you, you're
spitting, yeah, uh.
There's something I wanted toadd to the conversation and it
was, uh, when you talked aboutthe uh free spirit lady that you
met, um, and sometimes it's notum about, like, why she enter,
(23:44):
why she entered my life, whatwas the purpose?
Sometimes they're gonna be like, why is you into hers?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, cuz she's a,she's a being as well.
So you know, you, she, you knowthere's also sometimes it she
may not be able to, you know,lend to your growth that person,
whoever, but you can maybe lendto theirs.
(24:07):
Yeah, absolutely, yeah, yeah,yeah.
So that's something I want toadd that you know, like every
person that enters your lifecould be in a learning lesson,
but also you could be a learninglesson for them.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
Absolutely, uh, I definitely take that to um, I'm
aware of that, which is whyplatforms like this I mean, the
deeper I go with that stuff,most likely I will save some
things for me, just to protectit, because I don't know where
(24:39):
it's gonna go.
But I am aware that at least youknow, like we have we have
conversations sometimes, um, butI do feel like I'm a vessel for
something.
So, like other friends I have, Iwill, like sit and talk to them
(25:01):
and like tell them I'm onlytalking with one other person,
like what I just said, uh, and II said that to to him
specifically to help him like,and whatever he got going on,
and whoever, or platforms likethis.
You know, I feel like that'skind of what it's for as well,
(25:22):
like the, the more, uh, Ielevate mentally, spiritually,
physically, like it's it'ssupposed to be on somewhat of a
display, because how else, howelse would I have known to do
that if that shit wouldn't, if Iwasn't able to look it up, you
know, or it find me in myfrequency or whatever I'm
(25:44):
thinking right now.
So, yeah, no, I definitely.
I don't think I was much, for Ididn't even talk to her about
it because we really like, likeI said, that was like a high by
situation.
But but for people I do, I amaware of that that I can
(26:05):
possibly like change someoneelse's mindset or help do that.
So I I do try to like givewhatever information I can
because, um, I'll be needingthat shit are you, are you
curious about her?
Speaker 1 (26:21):
not really, okay, I was just asking no, not really
okay.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Yeah, she, uh, she ain't gonna watch this but uh,
yeah, she, uh, she.
She went live Like one day andit was just like Nigga after
nigga In the comments, and thenshe was like Just Y'all blow
some kisses for me when I butbefore I leave, and it was just
Hella, niggas blowing kisses andI was like I'm outta here, so
(26:48):
why did that bother you?
Speaker 1 (26:49):
I'm not finna be one of these.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
I mean.
So why did that bother you?
I'm not going to be one ofthese.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
I understand that.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
We're just not.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
Why is that her fault ?
Speaker 2 (26:57):
It ain't her fault.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
No, I'm just saying, like there's a certain, but it
sounded like it was a clear turnoff.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
It ain't got nothing to do with hers specifically,
but I feel like you know somepeople you can have certain
conversations with and it canbenefit both of you, but it ends
there.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
Yeah, so that's all I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
I mean, yeah, we don't know that, though we don't
know God's plans.
It's not like he just flippedyou the script real quick so you
can read over it Like oh, sheain't supposed to, she's
supposed to stop right here.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, we don't know anything.
That's a fact.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
That's why I said like I'm just very interested in
like the connections in general, like what is this?
Speaker 1 (27:44):
for.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
Because there are people that I've had
conversations with and then likethat shit dead for two years
and then all of a sudden theypop back up and like, hey,
what's going on?
Now we're more friends than wewere back then.
So I I don't know, I'm notlooking for anything, though but
I was just saying how like thebutterfly effect, basically okay
.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
So how crazy it is to so why?
Um crazy it is to so why?
Why do you think that?
Speaker 2 (28:20):
bothered you.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, if we go intothe wise in line?
Speaker 1 (28:26):
I know, no, I ain't in line, but nothing no, so
you're saying you pretty muchlike I value myself more to to
follow suit with what, what allthe other men doing, but yeah,
I'm not finna be the fifth oneyeah, you don't have to do
kisses, but you can still beinterested in her because you
know, for whatever reason, no,for sure, I just.
(28:48):
I just wasn't gonna be in theseventh one, okay, like sending,
but I feel like that was aturnoff in her to where you
didn't want to reach out to heranymore no, we, I mean it's a
hey and okay like I said, it'snot, and this is a person you
met here in Nashville.
I didn't meet anybody okay, I'mafter this free spirit lady you
was talking about.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
Yeah, no, I never met her.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
Oh okay, oh okay.
No, it was just like some.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
Internet shit, yeah, just internet shit.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
Okay, I got you Okay.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
Yeah, no, it wasn't nothing crazy All right
Understood.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
Yeah, no no, no no no , you know I like I don't know
Some women.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
they're so beautiful, but like I don't know Not her
specifically, but like anythingthat feels like you're.
I don't know.
I don't know her like that, soI don't even want to group that
in.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
Yeah, yeah I feel like it's just so much harder to
meet somebody and get to knowtheir spirit for real on the
internet on the internet.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
Oh, um, yeah, for sure, not for sure, but I mean
we had a conversation though.
So, like we was like on thephone, so I, you know, I kind of
like picked up on certain vibesand stuff, so it wasn't just
like a so.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
So when you first talked to her, it was like, yeah
, this probably ain't gonna lastlong actually yeah, and then
she hit me up randomly.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
Yeah, and she hit me up randomly, and then that
sparked like us uh speakingwhich sparked everything else
okay so I don't know, so I don'tknow why.
I don't know why she did it.
She don't even follow me, sookay, what was she saying?
Speaker 1 (30:39):
hey, big head, what was it?
Speaker 2 (30:42):
no, it's just just just.
Just.
Hey, I don't know likesomething was funny.
She sent it to me, okay, and itjust start.
It just sparked something okay,I got you.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
Yeah, I understand, yeah, yeah so it wasn't.
It wasn't that crazy okay, sodo you treat um, are you like
that with ladies who you see,see around is like hey she,
she's so beautiful, she'sprobably getting a lot of other
men's attention, so you won'tmove in that direction?
Speaker 2 (31:10):
no, anybody beautiful is getting hella attention.
I don't think I ever want tosee a girl's dm like ever,
because that is just like kindof hurt your heart a little bit.
So I'm good on that you know,the prettier the woman, the you
got to multiply by 10 the or 100of how much dms they got.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
She said that too.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
She was like I just get so many DMS and that it uh,
and I'm like it's crazy, that'sa different world for a pretty
woman on social media yeah, it'sthat's kind of like it's too
much.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
I feel like it's too.
So do you?
You feel like that messes upher head a little bit.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
You just mean like them in general.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
Like they're getting so much validation how?
Can they put their stock intoone person, knowing that there's
so many other men that wantthem.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
Yeah, you got to be like.
Sometimes I'm just kind of Ithought about that too.
I was like man to see, you know, to get replies from certain
people, sometimes over like theyears.
I thought about it.
I'm like, you know, thesepeople probably got so many
(32:24):
goddamn messages and shit.
My blue check must like help alittle bit.
And even that ain't enoughBecause I'll be going on some
people's pages like oh, she'scute the game like this photo.
Nick Cannon follows this girl.
Da-da-da-da, Nick Cannon.
First of all, he's knocking upeverybody.
But yeah, I'll see all that.
I'm like, wow, it's that.
(32:45):
I wouldn't say it's that easy.
But when you're pretty onsocial media, you're
automatically marketed to likeeverybody.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
I mean Nick.
Nick Cannon gets a lot of money.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
Fairly good looking guy Right With a huge amount of
clout and is highly intelligent.
So, yeah, that makes sense.
It does, but yeah, so I that,um, we're all one of ones, right
?
There's nobody like us.
Our dna is unique and different.
Um, so it's just what youconnect to.
(33:22):
So that's why yeah yeah, Ithink we all can get stuck in
that place of where it's likeyou know, dang she got.
Why is she choosing me?
but, at the same time is youoffer something you're going to.
Always.
Any person is going to offersomething different than what
somebody else will.
(33:42):
Yeah, because you have nobodygrew up in your shoes.
You have a different experience, a different mindset, so it's
just what connects with you tothat person why they may want to
stick around or not.
You know and and that's kind ofthe, the value that I know I
bring is like hey I'm.
I know I'm not going to be meantfor everybody, not everybody,
(34:02):
I'm not going to be desired byeverybody, right?
But I know the value that I dobring, I know the love that I do
bring, I know the care that Ido bring.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So you know it.
It ain't going to be foreverybody, but I know there's.
I was like I know I'm doing somuch more.
Yeah yeah, yeah, than thetypical, so I can sleep at night
at the end of the day, yeah nofor a fact.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
That's definitely how I live.
So that's why I say it Likenowadays definitely how I live.
So that's why I said likenowadays.
Anyway, I just be looking atconnections kind of differently
just like, what is this for?
what is what is?
And a couple previousconnections that I had.
I think that I was somethingfor them.
You know, like in um, certaincertain aspects, um, but that's
(34:50):
definitely how I think about it.
I'm not like like, why did theypick me?
I think maybe I was like thatbefore, but yeah, nowadays it's
it's more so.
What is this?
What is this for?
What's the grand scheme?
I think, because it's alwayssomething like.
It's always something when Iget to know somebody.
(35:10):
It's deeper than just just likea simple conversation.
It's always like some somethingthat is that I self-reflect on,
um, I get to know a person.
They do a couple things intheir life that I wish I could
get better at, or, you know,it's always some reason for
these, uh, connections and I doyou think you're okay?
Speaker 1 (35:34):
well, I'll answer my question.
What I think is happening, Ithink that you're making a lot
of connections.
So that was I was gonna ask youdo you think you're making a
lot of connections?
I'm gonna just say, I thinkthat you're making a lot of
connections, mm-hmm, and isthere a reason why one of those
are not sticking?
Oh, out of the connections thatI've had, yeah, um because,
(36:00):
there's been a lot ofconversations, a lot of
exchanging numbers and you knowI haven't seen.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
You know one just penetrate um I, I mean it's just
like every now and then I mean.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
So you're making way more connections than any other
average dude would let's calmdown a little bit.
No, I'm that's.
That's the truth, doesn'tmatter you know, like.
I think it was something like aman and I'm overstating the
number.
A man will never.
An average man will never sleepmore than seven women.
(36:39):
I think that's like.
I think I'm overstating thenumber.
Speaker 2 (36:45):
Yeah, I mean I'm not out there.
Speaker 1 (36:49):
I'm just bringing that to set the stage.
So if that's the case, then theamount of chances they have to
exchange numbers aresignificantly less than what you
had over the past, since youtransitioned to a different
(37:10):
setting.
Speaker 2 (37:11):
You talking about, like Raystall City?
No, I was talking about here,yeah, yeah, the the past, since
you um transitioned to adifferent setting.
You're talking like, right, so?
Speaker 1 (37:12):
city.
Uh, no, no, let's talk abouthere and yeah, yeah um yeah, for
sure.
So I'm just saying like, someof those connections is like
okay, is it because you're at,not at a place to want something
stronger?
And that kind of it sets me tothe original question of when I
(37:34):
asked about like, are you datingto marry um?
Speaker 2 (37:38):
I mean I like.
I said I like what I like.
So when usually, when it comesto a point which is, it only
happened twice in the past,maybe three but, two to three
times in the past.
What ten years that I?
So I mean I was in a six yearrelationship, so that's six
(38:03):
years off top just gone.
It's a very long time.
So gone as in not in a negativesense yeah.
But, just like you know, likeyou skipped six years out of
that alone.
Speaker 1 (38:17):
How do you feel about I'm sorry to cut it off and
talk to something different howdo you feel about six years in
general?
Like being in a relationshipwith somebody and it not be the
ending that you wanted, do you?
Is it like?
Are you somewhat resentful ofno like?
Speaker 2 (38:35):
damn I wish.
Speaker 1 (38:36):
This was at least four.
You know what I?
Speaker 2 (38:38):
mean resentful of the amount of years.
Speaker 1 (38:40):
Well, because you got the six years, then you got
healing yeah, yeah, yeah yeah,so you got that too yeah, yeah,
and and if, if you really cometo a place of healing, i'm'm
sure it is at one point.
I don't know if you're fullythere, but no, I am Okay, I'm
definitely there.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, yeah,but.
Speaker 2 (38:57):
I'm not resentful of the time.
You know that was a verytransitional time period for me
and I'm glad that happened then.
And I'm glad that happened thenBecause if it happened later.
Yeah, I just wouldn't wantsomething like that to happen
later.
Like the amount of lessons thatI learned in that relationship
(39:21):
were just grand.
Did you ever want to leave,leave her.
Yeah, I was so committed thatany time that I thought I just
want to be to myself, I wouldtalk myself out of it.
Yeah, so if we, if we weren'tin, if we weren't seeing eye to
(39:44):
eye, if we, if, you know, ifthings just weren't going well,
then you know, I would say thesethings to myself, like I'm in
it till I'm out of it, and whichmeans I'm fully in this.
You know, I'm not gonna tellmyself that I'm gonna break up
with.
I was just, I was thatcommitted, uh, to the
(40:04):
relationship that anytime, youknow, those thoughts of how I
say like your words becomereality.
It started then, like in thatrelationship and I would see, I
would visually see, if one dayI'm like I can't deal with this
girl, that day would be that.
(40:25):
And then there were days whereI would wake up where I say I
don't know if this shit going towork out and I'm like no Words
are real.
If I want this shit to work.
It's going to work, and I wouldtry five times harder that day,
and that day would be a totaldifferent outcome.
So when it came down to likeman breaking up and all that, I
(40:49):
would talk myself out of it andsay something super positive to
myself to uh, to, to, to likeveer me back on the path of
commitment yeah, and they peopletalk about.
Speaker 1 (41:00):
And that's where I don't.
I disagree with the, the lineof like words of affirmation,
like just speaking intoexistence and like I feel like
you're also blinding yourself toreality to a certain level.
Like, yeah, you can't speak,you know you can't speak.
(41:22):
Everything into existence, yeah, yeah, and that's just the
nature of the beast.
Speaker 2 (41:28):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (41:30):
Some things just going to be roadblocks yeah, so
it's not gonna be likeeverything's gonna be good as
gold, as long as I think it is.
Yeah, yeah, I mean.
So I'm saying that to say it'slike some, if I'm in prison, I'm
in prison, I can't speak likeI'm free you know, so you gotta
lend yourself to the realitysituation.
If you know, I'm not saying thatit's easy to say when it didn't
(41:54):
work out, but it's also.
I still want to live.
I don't want to still livefoolishly.
I'm like, hey, thisrelationship is going to build,
it's going to work I know it isand then you're still going to.
You know you're still going tohave the shortcomings of the
(42:17):
person that maybe not match whoyou are.
Speaker 2 (42:21):
No, I mean, that's a fact.
So I mean, yeah, there's alwaysa sense of reality with that.
But I visually see it all thetime, all the time with multiple
different relationships.
There are things that are ingirls' heads, that shit just
plays out.
There are things that peoplecan get in a person's ear.
(42:42):
That's all they think about.
Boom, that's what therelationship is.
So there is a line betweenbeing optimistic and just the
reality of the situations.
Y'all probably love each otherdifferently.
You probably you know.
The harsh truth is like maybethere's somebody out there
(43:03):
better for both of you.
Yeah, so you know you gottafigure that out.
Yeah, but I you know you got tofigure that out too, yeah, but
you know, life is just, I don'tknow.
Speaker 1 (43:16):
Do you feel like you at some point?
Did you see it coming Like,yeah, all the time.
Okay, yeah, all the time.
Throughout the whole thing.
Speaker 2 (43:24):
Yeah, you know how many times that girl wanted to
break up with me yeah, I got you.
Yeah, Hell yeah, Like that shitwas all the time and I sat
myself too and went through thatwhole thing.
You know the ending of thatrelationship.
It ended exactly how I thoughtof myself, without saying too
much about the end of therelationship, but everything
(43:49):
that happened, that's exactlywhat.
Speaker 1 (43:51):
I thought about myself.
Speaker 2 (43:52):
Well, I just had to tell you after certain ways it
played out, I had to think aboutit.
I'm like, damn, it's like yougo to a basketball game and you
didn't prepare for thebasketball game.
You ain't hooped in two weeks.
But these people on the otherteam, they've been training
(44:13):
every day and then you see themand you actually might be the
same, you might have the sameskill as them.
They actually needed to keep upwith you, but because you see
them, then you're like, once youget in your head, you're like,
damn, they are so much strongerthan me.
You're going to play weaker.
There's so much yeah.
Speaker 1 (44:34):
so once you finally lose, the game like you've been
lost before you even got on thecourt and you know there's a lot
of truth and that's what peoplesay.
You're playing to the level ofyour competition as well.
It's like if you know somepeople.
You know if they're goingagainst a weak team, they don't
play as hard, or yeah um, but itactually you saying that?
(44:56):
um just thought about why I havemy own struggles in the
relationship.
Is is and I want to see if youyou agree with me on your
relationship.
Is that?
Do you feel like your partnerdoesn't dig deep within
themselves enough the times thatshe was in it, like the
(45:18):
long-term relationship?
Um?
dig deep enough um, like justabout themselves and
self-reflect, and like wondering, because you, it's like the
times that you know, you're like, hey, I feel like she wants to
give up all the time you know orwhatever, sometimes I I can
(45:39):
like apply to my ownrelationship and be like are you
, are you willing to go deepenough into yourself and to
figure out who you truly are?
Speaker 2 (45:49):
I think there are certain points with everybody
where you're gonna have to meetthat version of yourself.
So even where I am today, Iwasn't.
When I was with her, you know,like me sitting there and trying
to figure out where is thistrauma coming from?
Where I didn't go that deepback then.
Plus, I wasn't even taking careof myself for real, to even
like get to the point of evendoing it and I think it was the
(46:11):
same thing, sort of on.
Well, she was taking better careof herself, but, um, yeah, I
think we both, yeah, we, we bothwere uh, um it it was different
for both sides, but she couldhave done better and I could
(46:32):
have done better with that ofreflecting and figuring that out
, you know.
But again, like in that thatspan of my life, that's
something that I recently had to, you know, like figure out why
why?
Because there were many thingsthat I could have improved on
and just didn't, mm.
And I knew what was wrong.
I knew exactly what was wrong.
(46:52):
I knew, you know, the thingsthat I needed to improve on.
It was like right there, it wasjust blatant and I just would
not get to the point of gettingthere and again, like, a lot of
(47:16):
that was taking care of myselfand, um, being true, true to
myself.
So I think everybody just hasto get to a certain point with
that.
That could be age, that couldbe traumatic events that could
be you know you walk outside,see god himself, I don't know.
But, um, yeah and yeah, in thatrelationship we both had a hard
time, on both sides, to likecorrect those things on a deep
(47:39):
level, of getting to the pointof being that person that we
needed to be for ourselves,which would reflect to the other
person.
Speaker 1 (47:51):
Understood.
We got one more conversationcuz I yeah, yeah, no, exactly,
because at some point I was likeI haven't talked about my whole
mom my own weekend.
But I was like man, my stuff isnot important compared to the
conversation, but but I'm it wasalright, we can talk about next
one.
Yeah, it was actually cool,though, but the last one Because
(48:15):
we were talking about marriageand relationships Is Halle Berry
.
Speaker 2 (48:20):
First husband yeah.
Speaker 1 (48:22):
His name was David Justice.
I wasn't familiar with him.
He's a baseball Former baseballplayer but he divorced Halle
Berry Because she didn't cook orclean.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (48:31):
How do Hearing?
Speaker 1 (48:32):
that baseball player but he divorced have a berry
because she didn't cook or clean.
Yeah, how do you hearing that?
Do you think that's?
But I'm sure there's morecontext to it.
Uh-huh, but just off of that,how does that?
Does that sound crazy to you,or?
Is that like.
Speaker 2 (48:45):
I wonder what the cleaning situation was yeah, I
don't know if it's like a, youdidn't clean the whole house, or
your side of the bed lookscrazy, yeah, yeah, yeah, like,
yeah, you know, your room looksfucking wild, or there's tissue
on in the bathroom floor, likeyou know.
I don't know what that was, butI kind of see it two ways.
(49:06):
Like I don't know, some thingscan just be like done with a
maid, right, right.
So like I grew up my mom didn'tcook all the time and so I
don't even look for that in awoman.
You know it's nice, it's acherry on top, but I never
experienced the home cooked mealevery single day.
(49:26):
So like, if she say she don'tfeel like cooking, I get it, I
get it, I don't eat it, you know.
So, um, but the, the, the, Idon't know it's a toss-up.
I don't know exactly fully whathe meant, how you feel about it
um, I, there's a lot of thingsthat I can.
Speaker 1 (49:49):
That I think about is um, I still, I'm on the same
fence as you as in terms of,like, okay, what is cleanliness
and what does that look like?
Yeah, um, but as far as cookingand cleaning, she's halliburton
, so she can't afford everything, you, that you can afford, so
why does she need to cook herclean, like I?
(50:10):
I?
I can understand, if you know,if she's a stay-at-home mom, I'm
like, okay, what do you bringit to the table?
But if you can, if she canpurchase, like at the end of the
day, it's time efficiency.
If she's making a lot of money,then that's dedicating her time
to cooking and cleaning.
(50:31):
It's just like inefficient towhat she got going on too like
cooking in preparation takes avery long time, right?
yeah, it's not just no thingthat you can just pop in the
oven for 15 minutes and it'sdone.
No, that's hours.
Speaker 2 (50:46):
Yeah, I think maybe that's just his love language.
Speaker 1 (50:48):
Yeah, and why didn't you know that Like at the end of
the day.
You kind of blame yourself forthat too, and I'm not saying
that he didn't.
But yeah, if cooking, if that'swhat matters to you most, yeah,
yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, it depends.
He may not have truly knownhimself, but I think those are
very hard standards, and andthen I'll have to listen to
(51:13):
interview, because that that'san absolute for you.
You're a baseball player.
You play a hundred andsomething games a year.
A hundred and something, yeah,games a year.
So how often are you at home?
Why is this an absolute?
Speaker 2 (51:30):
yeah, it sounds like, I don't know like he either
grew up.
He either grew up, and that'sthat, that was the thing, or, um
, that's one of his uh, his lovelanguages.
I think that's kind of whatthat is.
Speaker 1 (51:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (51:49):
Do you think, going back on the other stuff we was
talking about, do you think it'seasy for couples to dive deeper
, to find that inner thing thatwe were talking about, of um,
trying to be better on bothsides?
(52:10):
Do you think one side isusually like?
Speaker 1 (52:12):
yes yeah well, well, I'm and that's partially untrue,
because I know men that don'tuh, just really dig deep in
themselves at all- and they'revery selfish and yeah, so they
don't realize they're as much ofa problem as anybody else is.
So but and it's kind of unfairbecause I have a lot of friends
(52:38):
that look within themselves andyeah, so I'm looking at it at a
different angle and I know womenthat are too, but they're all
the women that I mean I speak to.
They're older.
Speaker 2 (52:53):
They've been in relationships.
Speaker 1 (52:55):
Most of them are married or been married, so it's
just completely different.
Speaker 2 (53:01):
Do they say that they had to do that type of stuff,
like later in life or comparedto your age?
Um?
Speaker 1 (53:07):
I don't know the answer to that question, um, but
then I, I learned, I see, youknow, my own relationship and
her friends is like I don't, itdoesn't feel like most of them
do that.
Um, I could be completely wrongin that, but yeah, yeah, I
don't, you know, it's kinda youknow it's it's.
(53:30):
I feel like it should be moreself reflection Than what I see.
But then again, I don't know, Idon't know him like that and I
don't have that conversationWith him like that.
So I, I literally Probably I'mjust guessing and what, how
there's you know.
You, probably I'm just guessing, and what, how there's.
You know you can see how peoplemove.
You know you can see somebody.
Hey, he looked drunk, but maybehe just you know, what I mean.
(53:52):
Yeah, yeah, maybe he just umwhatever you know, maybe he just
got his own different shoes orsomething you know what I mean.
Yeah, but and that's what it is.
It's like they just how theymove.
Doesn't look like as muchself-reflection on this side,
but I, I truly don't know um,and and then I feel like it
should feed off more.
(54:12):
Yeah, like there's a level ofwe kind of feed off on each
other it was like hey, you knowwhat you should move like, or
you should, you like.
we check each other in a waylike no, that, no, that's not
good for you, or you shouldn'tbe doing that, or you should try
this.
I mean, we talk about it on thepodcast all the time and it
could be a lot of not doing that, of not checking your own
(54:34):
friends to where it could bethat too.
Speaker 2 (54:39):
Yeah, I do feel like, when I really truly think about
it, I only have those certaintype of conversations with
certain people.
Yeah, so, and then I plus Ihave to know somebody for a
while, damn near to um, or hasto be, a certain type of of
energy within me and the, theperson I'm talking to, to even
(55:01):
be able to speak about thosethings.
So maybe some people do do that,because I've heard that before
of people saying you know, I'mworking on myself, I'm dead.
But sometimes I feel likepeople just like throw that out
there, just throw that, sayingout there you know, like you
know, we're gonna usually likesingle women after a breakup.
(55:21):
That's the first thing that Ikind of hear is, like you know,
I've just been working on myself, I've and I just don't know
what that truly means.
But it depends on the person.
Speaker 1 (55:33):
It depends on the person yeah, and in terms of if
we can kind of close here soon.
But in back to that positiveaffirmation thing is like I take
when I speak to people I justkind of speak humbly in a sense
Like maybe if I'm talking a lotit can maybe get arrogant or
confidence, or it seems like heknows a lot, but I try to be
(55:56):
like, make myself less than Like, but I speak, I think highly of
myself in my mind.
Yeah, yeah, so I'll be like youknow I'm dumb, you know, or
I'll say something like that.
And to me they were like youknow you're supposed to speak,
you know yourself into existenceKing, I'm like I don't be that
deep with it because I know howmuch I value myself in my mind.
(56:21):
You know what I mean, but humbly, I'll try to come off humble.
Like hey, you know, it may bethe night.
I'll say a lot Like maybe thisis the naive side of me, maybe
it's because I don't have a lotof experience, and then I'll
state my point.
Speaker 2 (56:35):
Yeah, You're just saying like you kind of do that
for yourself, but not.
Speaker 1 (56:46):
No, I do that for other people, so they don't feel
like.
Speaker 2 (56:46):
I'm stepping on toes or boundaries, right?
No, I'm saying you do theaffirmation, that type of ordeal
, like more for yourself but notlike in, like you're not going
to a table and saying like I'm aking.
Yeah, you might leave the tableand be like these niggas like
that.
Speaker 1 (57:05):
Yeah, in a sense innocence.
Yeah, pretty much, yeah, yeahyeah, I kind of.
Speaker 2 (57:10):
Yeah, I'm here in there with that, but yeah yeah,
because I would like bro.
Speaker 1 (57:14):
Bro, why am I?
Why do I care about theiropinions?
Yeah, like I.
It's a um, it's a saying in theGame of Thrones.
Yeah, but that was a Game ofThrones reference.
It's like a lion, doesn't worryabout the opinions of a sheep.
Oh right, yeah, so that was aGame of Thrones reference, which
(57:38):
is a phenomenal saying, becausethat's very true A lion ain't
going to worry about how a sheepfeels about him.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're a lion.
Why would you care?
yeah, exactly, yeah, yeah and I,and I just kind of take that
mantra with me a little bit.
Speaker 2 (57:54):
Yeah, no, that is a good one.
Um yeah, so I heard somethingelse like that too I forgot the
other one, but that in my mind.
Speaker 1 (58:01):
But I try to be humble and be like, yeah, you
know yeah, that's what?
Speaker 2 (58:06):
uh, yeah, that's what it reminded me of.
Chris brown used to dancebattle people and then
eventually he stopped dancebattling people because he's
like, why the fuck am I?
Speaker 1 (58:13):
I'm chris brown yeah, and he said something like that
yeah, so which, which makessense.
Speaker 2 (58:20):
It's like you know, you got this, this type of uh,
thought process and and way ofthinking like why even?
Speaker 1 (58:27):
why even do?
Speaker 2 (58:27):
that, so I agree with that all right.
Speaker 1 (58:30):
I feel like we did it yeah all right, well, this is
two for the culture.
We'll be back.
We'll be back, yes, sir.
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