Empathy vs Responsibility, Prodigal Son, Uber Stories

Episode Transcript

SPEAKER_01 (00:00):
And we are back with another episode of Two for the
Culture.
I'm Justin Devante.
Stephen Ray.
Yes, sir.
And we are back.
Yes.
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SPEAKER_00 (00:09):
Please like scare and subscribe.
Yeah.
Kaya is staying there all thetime now.
How was uh Yeah, so Kaya cameover.
We had fun.
It's so crazy.
Um she she doesn't have like aTikTok or an Instagram or like
anything like that.
But and I don't even say thesethings.
Comment, like, and subscribe.
I don't the last time I did itwas probably like 10 years ago

(00:31):
when I was on YouTube.
So she does not get this fromme.
So she's on YouTube watchingother probably little kids
sometimes, TikTok dances and allthat.
And they're like, like, share,and subscribe.
And like, it's just it's justfunny.
She'll tell me to record herjust so she can show people.
We had recorded like 15 TikToksfor her.
Oh wow.

(00:52):
And then she said, Can you sendthem to me?
And I'm like, Yeah.
She said, What did they say?
I was like, Who?
She said, You didn't post it?
Just like really waiting on theexperience of being behind it or
whatever.
So I know she's she's gonna goin when she has a phone.
She's begging for one now.
But I'm no, we're not doing it.

SPEAKER_01 (01:12):
Yeah, because I mean, how do you really be able
to?
I guess you got parental controlon your phone as well.
But you know, these kidsnowadays they more savvier than
us.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So they yeah, they can probablyfind a way around it.
And then with TikToks, I'm surethere's like a baby TikTok or
something.
Yeah, but I'm sure you know it'sprobably filtered.

SPEAKER_00 (01:32):
Uh yeah, all of them have some type of setting.

SPEAKER_01 (01:34):
Yeah, but I mean, but that ain't gonna stop, you
know, ill-willed people to tryto get into it too, and then you
know, say mean things to achild.
Yeah.
How old is she now?
Nine.
Yeah, she can wait on that.
Yeah, she can wait on it.

SPEAKER_00 (01:48):
Yeah, but so-and-so has a phone.
I'm like, I don't care.

SPEAKER_01 (01:51):
Okay, yeah, it's great.
Yeah, yeah.
And they depressed.

SPEAKER_00 (01:56):
Uh, it's too funny.
The one who cries in the cornerall the time.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Goes to school.

SPEAKER_01 (02:03):
They call me fat.
And how's how's she?

SPEAKER_00 (02:06):
Uh, she's good.
Uh, she's good.
She's happy.
Yeah, very happy, very happy.
Still, still giving cool dadvibes.
I pick her up from school, sheruns into my arms, jumps.
Like, yeah, like I I wonder howlong that's gonna be, you know.
There's it's probably I I don'tknow how many more years that

(02:26):
would be.
I've never done that.
My sister's never done that.
So I don't know what the effectis, but I'm very glad I have
that effect right now.
Right, right.
Yeah, I'm very that's the it'salmost like an accomplishment
for real, just to see yourchild's eyes light up every time
you're around.
So yeah, that's that's that'ssuper dope.

SPEAKER_01 (02:47):
Yeah, do do you appreciate because it just rem
reminds me of the people whodon't have good communication
with their baby mother in termsof like not being able to see
their child with the one or whenthey want, or it's an issue, or
it's always like uh a temperwhen they're you know together
or talking.
Do you take that inconsideration?

(03:08):
Like, I'm glad I got it at leastthis way.

SPEAKER_00 (03:10):
Yeah, no, everything.
Okay.
Everything about it.
Yeah, it could have been wayworse.
Like, you know, just being umjust open.
It's just like a lot of things Iwould have done.
Uh uh I there was just a timeframe where I had a guilty
conscience of when I was in LA.
Because I was in LA for a bunchof years trying to chase this
dream or whatever, purposefully,because I knew that when Kaya

(03:35):
got older, it would be very hardto leave from or it was already
hard, but like I saw a littlebit of an opening at that time
frame because there are thereare some years where she won't
remember that I'm like back andforth uh of like every other,
like whatever, like buyingflights and then the hotel.

(03:57):
She don't even remember a lot ofthat now.
So purposefully, I was puttingmyself in positions of trying to
make sure if I'm gonna be here,I'm here with something, you
know, which is now like raceauxiliary, where it's it's grown
to, but uh, and the connectionsand all the connections I made
or whatever.
But I had a guilty consciencethe whole time when I was out

(04:19):
there because like I'm not inthe city with my daughter.
So I say that to say thebeginning relationship with her,
it could be way worse.
And because of how ourinteractions have been and
things that I've done with her,as well as her mom being cool,

(04:45):
even when she didn't have to be,like, yeah, bruh.
Like, I'm I'm extremely thankfulthat things have kind of got to
this point.
So, uh, and I'll that that's whyI'm here.
So I can like consistently makeeverything better.
Because I do have that in theback of my head.
It's a guilty con Kai will neverremember it, but you know, as
long as she knows who daddy isand he's around.

(05:07):
Right, right.

SPEAKER_01 (05:08):
And yeah, because I I'm trying to think about when I
was a uh a kid.
Maybe it's the fact that who youknow, who my dad is and why I
don't have any like really illwill.
And you know, because it's likesomewhat unfair to my mom in
some cases, and I'll break itdown a little bit more on what

(05:31):
I'm what I'm meaning.
So are you familiar with likethe story of the prodigal son?
So I'm gonna kind of uh sum upthe story real quick.
And so there was um two sons,one son wanted his inheritance
um right off the bat, prettymuch.

(05:52):
Like he wanted his inheritancenow, and he he had the other one
that was staying with his dadand you know, doing everything
right.
And then um the other the I itwas just say first son and
second son.
The first son went off, youknow, there was a famine in the
land, ruined all the money.
Uh like spent all the money.
Uh-huh.

(06:12):
And then um, and then you know,he was even, you know, eating
the same thing.
Like he was down bad eating thesame thing pigs were, just
trying to eat.
So he went back, you know, tohis father.
He was like, you know, Icouldn't, you know, I don't
deserve to stay here.
You know, I, you know, spiteverything, you know, I yeah, I

(06:33):
could at least, you know, staywhere, you know, kind of like
with the animals type of thing.
Um really summing up the storyand kind of messing up.
But essentially, um the dadwelcomed back with open arms,
you know, it's like and he had aparty and it was like, hey, you
know, my son is finally backhome.
But the other son was like, I'vedid everything right.

(06:55):
You know, so and he had, butnobody's throwing anything a
party from me for doing thethings right.
And so I'm saying all that tosay is like for my dad, who can
kind of be compared to theprodigal son, he's like, hey,
I've like he, you know, wasn'the was fairly present, but he

(07:17):
spent uh a stint in prison aswell.
So there was a lot of distance,a lot of not hearing from him, a
lot of um lies and notdelivering.
Um, but I never held thatagainst him.
But yeah, yeah, as soon as, youknow, my mom does something
that, you know, I may not likeit, but like, you and you did

(07:38):
this as a child, you know.
Yeah, yeah.
I'm like, why do I not have, youknow, why am I judging them
differently when one clearlyshowed up more than the other?
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
So I didn't, so I think, yeah,uh kind of you're right in a
way.
It's like, yeah, she I don'tthink that, you know, one, she's

(07:59):
probably not gonna remember noneof it, none of it, but you're
also that you're here now.
Yeah.
You know, so it I think it'skind of like water under the
bridge.
And what whether she she's nine,I don't think she's not gonna
think too deeply about thingseither.
Oh no, no, I'm good.
Yeah, yeah.
But I there's gonna be a level.

SPEAKER_00 (08:15):
As long as I stay, you know, uh uh be a great
father.

SPEAKER_01 (08:18):
Yeah, exactly.
And you know, we're all gonna umyou know, reminisce, at least
I'll speak for myself.
I reminisce in the past, andyou're like, yeah, I don't know
why that person did what theydid.
Even when I'm younger, I waslike, you know, like I'll use an
example, like my aunt, she usedto make me eat beans.
You hate beans, yeah, yeah.

(08:40):
And so what did she make you eatthem?
Or is it part of the meal?
No, so my mom told her goinginto it that I don't Justin
doesn't like beans, you know,don't make him beans, yada yada.
And then she would make she likeshe she's gonna eat whatever I
cook.
So so that was a part of it.
She would make beans, and thenshe said, You can't leave the

(09:01):
table until you eat them.
Right.
And then I'm like, Why am Iforced to eat this crap?
You know, and so I'm literallytaking one bean at a time and
and gagging.
Like, yeah, they think I'm likegoing crazy.
Like, like it's not that bad.
Mix it with everything else.
I'm like, then that ruins thewhole meal.

(09:22):
Like, at least I got the friedchicken I can enjoy, but now I
gotta mix the chicken with thebeans, you know what I mean?
Yeah, and so yeah, I wouldliterally wait at the table.
And I was like, if you know achild doesn't like a certain
thing, why would you force themto eat it?
Yeah, that is slightly hateful,and there's no way you can say
otherwise.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, yeah.

(09:42):
Because now I you know, mycousin's kids, they don't like
tomatoes, they don't like this.
I'm making by the time I getdone, I'm making three different
meals, bro.
Yeah, you know what I mean, andit's all a love because you
don't like I don't want to giveyou something you don't care
for.
Um, but yeah, so I was like, Ilook at back uh uh the decision
I was making, I was like, bruh,she really didn't like me for

(10:03):
real.
I I truly believe that at thetime, yeah, yeah, because I was
a gay kid growing up and aroundthese badass kids that you know
what I mean.
I think she really didn't.

SPEAKER_00 (10:13):
Damn, but yeah.
And you think it it was um ahateful.
Well, I mean, I guess uh in myhead I was thinking, you know,
if you had um if she didn't havemuch or whatever, then cool,
like y'all had beans orwhatever.
But you're saying that there wasother things on the plate to
where you would have beensatisfied.

SPEAKER_01 (10:29):
Oh, yeah, like that there was also there's an
element of hey, don't say meyou're hungry later.
I'm not yeah, I will starve,yeah.
Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, but yeah, there's it wasn'tjust beans and bread, you know
what I mean?
Yeah, that's what I was saying.
We ain't we wasn't down bad likethat, but nah nah.
Damn, yeah, that's messed up.

(10:51):
Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (10:52):
I don't think anybody did did did did that.
Uh no, no, no, I I never wentthrough that.

SPEAKER_01 (10:58):
No, that that's hilarious.
But uh telling the story in theprodigal son, how do you how do
you feel about that?
Do you feel like that was whatdo you mean?
Um, well, I guess if you was theother the the second son, would
you feel away?
Like, bruh, I've did everythingright.

SPEAKER_00 (11:14):
Yeah, I'll feel away.
But also, like, I don't know.
A part of me would be like, Iwould feel away, but I would
also feel like I'm in adifferent position than that
person too.
So like they're slick sufferinga little bit.

(11:36):
You know what I'm saying?
So if I'm not suffering, Iguess, and if I did everything
right, and you know, even if Iam, I don't know, struggling
with life and all that, I'm in adifferent position than that
person.
So, you know, I'm not going tosleep at night thinking like,
ah, fuck.

SPEAKER_01 (11:53):
You know, I could have bought some prostitutes
too.

SPEAKER_00 (11:57):
But just, you know, I think that's a thing.
That's happened with a couplepeople in my life, um, where uh
yeah, like like I'm not gonnathink too much on this person
just because I'm in the positionthat I'm in.
They might be I don't know,uplifted or this or that, and I

(12:18):
kind of feel a way about that,but then I'll usually just snap
out of that and be like, mystory or whatever's given to me
is like for me.
And it's not like I'm losing.
That's what you're saying.
Yeah, I got you.

SPEAKER_01 (12:32):
And so and okay, you're changing up, and that's a
uh a good topic to kind of umbuild on is just like hey, how
we can look at somebody and beI'm gonna use the word envious,
even though it's negative, butlike you or and that's kind of
like won somebody's life, soI'll use the word like hey, it's

(12:53):
supposed to be me, me, me, methat has that money or where I
why I am, where I'm at.
And we all have a kind of bird'seye view of things.
We don't see the full picture.

SPEAKER_00 (13:04):
Isn't a bird's eye?

SPEAKER_01 (13:06):
Um well maybe I'm saying it the opposite way.
But yeah, we don't have visionversus bird's eye.
Yeah, yeah, I guess.
Maybe.
Yeah, I think you're right.
You're 100% right.
Something like that.
But anyway, yeah, yeah.
So we uh we don't see the fullpicture.
Right.
Yeah, yeah.
Uh of things.
And we can look at somebody'slife and hey, they got it great,
but uh but honestly, they'reprobably maybe suffering inside.

(13:27):
There's a lot that you know,decisions that they make or uh
that they don't show to othersof how they're actually
depression is like putting themdown and yada yada and so forth.
Um so um I try my best not to doit, but I think we all have that
in us.
Like I I have to tell myself,like, bro, you tripping, like

(13:48):
you know I mean, you're likeyour life's actually good.

SPEAKER_00 (13:51):
I think maybe I don't know, I think maybe around
10 years ago, maybe, and beforethen, I would have spurts of
that.
But um, I don't know.
The older I get, I just realizeif it is something like that
where I feel like I want this orthis or that, the answer usually

(14:13):
is pretty clear.
Like I didn't do what I neededto do to get that.
Yes.
Yeah.
So nigga, that's why.
Right.
Yeah, like I have other friendsthat um kind of figured out the
whole uh or or or people when Iwas in LA, you know, I've been
this social media game forever.

(14:34):
And I'm kind of living a normallife in a way uh when I was
there, you know, working a joband uh, you know, paying the
bills and all this.
I I I'm I'm moving like a normalperson, but I'm still rubbing
shoulders with people who'vebeen in the game probably the
same amount of time and they'rein the mansion, like and got

(14:54):
another home somewhere else.
And they just it's simple, theyjust figured it out like or some
different way than I could, orthat they took different steps
or something, something wasdifferent.
Um so I I would I don't know, II usually check myself when it
comes to stuff like that becauseyou never know.

(15:15):
You you never know what theycarry as well.
Like, do I really want to berecording myself 24-7 and like
lose the sense of no?
I'm just comparing me to like acertain type of content creator,
but like uh or not anybodyspecific, but there's a certain
type of content that makes likehella money, but like I I

(15:38):
wouldn't like to live my life uhwith uh a button on record, like
the whole time.
Like streaming, yeah, streamingor or vlogging everywhere and
doing everything.
I don't like that.

SPEAKER_01 (15:50):
Yeah, I think so if this if you know, Lord willing,
this podcast will be bigger andwe can do more, and yeah.
Um, but I like this um format ofthings to where we can have fun,
we can, you know, tell about ourown experience, crazy or
whatever, have it have you, butwe also have serious
conversation.

(16:12):
You know, yeah, ain't no littlekid be like, hey, you know, it
like well maybe your content's alittle bit different, different,
but what they would see of me isnot like you know, like uh, hey,
do the Odell dance.
You know, make a joke, yeah,yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, tell me a joke.
I used to hate that one.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (16:33):
Tell me a joke.
Like, nigga, I'm I'll be greenscreen.
That ain't the same thing, bro.

SPEAKER_01 (16:38):
Uh definitely, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (16:40):
It's like dance, nigga.
Yeah, yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_01 (16:43):
Bro, so so yeah, so they may be excited to possibly
see me, but they it wouldn't belike, bruh, it'll I could see it
more like you trying to get meto debate you on something.
Uh-huh.
Versus you.
You know, think about this.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
Like, I disagree with the withhow you said that thing.
You know what I mean?
And I'm like, okay, but youknow, yeah.

(17:04):
It wouldn't be like, hey, bruh,like, you know, like pranking
type of thing.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (17:08):
I imagine.
Yeah, I mean, you are who uh Imean people perceive you it what
you portray.
Yeah.
So yeah, I remember.
I remember that actually when Iwas in uh before we met, when I
was at U of M.
And my content back then, Ihated it.

(17:31):
But I kept doing it because itwas just like natural, not even
natural, but it was just normalfor me to have this routine.
Like I'll tell stories, youknow, I got like a story for
everything, and like I used totell those stories on um like a
rant.
I don't know if you rememberlike growing up watching
YouTube, but there'd be a lot ofpeople like just just simply

(17:51):
talking into the camera andtelling stories.

SPEAKER_01 (17:53):
I remember you did that at M Tissue.

SPEAKER_00 (17:56):
I yeah, I hated them.
Yeah, but I I like the story,but it's like it's not even how
I sound.
It was very then I went overhere and then and then she said
I but and then like I would seemyself when I was at the U of M,
and clearly some at MT, which iswhy they died down.
But like it wasn't me for real.

(18:18):
It was just like and people Imet was waiting on that to come
out.
Yeah, like I it was this girl, Ijust remember this.
It was this girl invited me andLloyd, because me and Lloyd had
the page together, and sheinvited us to her birthday party

(18:39):
or something, and it was like athing.
It's like, oh yeah, Steve andLloyd's coming or whatever.
And then we was just, you know,at Benny Hannah's just chilling,
just talking, and she was justlike, Where's the funny?
Like, where's the stuff?
You know, it's her birthday, andlike I'm being, it's like Santa
Claus on a bad day or something.

SPEAKER_01 (18:58):
Do you feel any obligation to be funny?

SPEAKER_00 (19:00):
Or yeah, yeah, because she invited us, we're
the guys, you know, yeah.
She was just expecting us to forme to do the thing, and like
that's not even my voice forreal.
Yeah, I got you.
So I used to hate that.
Like, people would people wouldwould know me off of that type

(19:21):
of content, and it was sodifferent, like walking through
U of M, and I I used to beposted on WorldStar sometimes.
Yeah, so I could hear myselfsometimes walking through
because people would usuallywatch World Star before they go
to class or something like that.

SPEAKER_01 (19:35):
Oh, okay, I got you.

SPEAKER_00 (19:36):
So it'd be people in the UC or the university center
where you get your food andstuff, and I'll be going to
Burger King and I'll hear myvoice like from this post that I
know I just got posted onWorldStar.
And it don't even sound like me.
And that used to mess with me alot, which is why now clearly my
content is more in a way, likewho I am, my my cadence of how I

(19:58):
speak.

SPEAKER_01 (19:59):
Yeah, because you got pushed on World Star a lot.
Did you send it to World Star?

SPEAKER_00 (20:03):
Uh-uh.
Okay, they just found your Yeah,World Star usually have or from
what I remember, World Starwould have their picks.
Everybody would have a timeframe.
So, like, you remember Fat BoySSE?
He he had a certain time pocket.
There was this other dude, Iforgot his name.

(20:25):
He would have a time pocket, andit would be like he's the funny
guy right now.
You know what I'm saying?
They would have stuff like that,and and you could tell because
like you would start gettinginto that algorithm, and then
they'll start posting you less,and then you're out of it.
So, um, yeah, I had a littlerun.
I had a little run with um WorldStar.
That was fire.

SPEAKER_01 (20:46):
I got you.

SPEAKER_00 (20:46):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And we used to watch World Star.

SPEAKER_01 (20:48):
Uh the Vine Comps for sure.
Yes, yes.
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

SPEAKER_00 (20:52):
I can't wait to it's gonna be so nostalgic.
I hope I could get on theBreakfast Club or whatever they
call it now.
I think that's a good thing.
Like that would be extremelylike a a win for my younger
self.
Like as we would used to justwatch interviews and things like
that all the time.
So to actually be on there, thatwould be crazy.

SPEAKER_01 (21:12):
I think that's that's very possible.
I think that's very possible.

SPEAKER_00 (21:17):
Yeah, yeah, I I think I think that's that's
that's cool.
But that is something that I uhthought about.
That is something I thoughtabout.
Something else uh I did want tobring up.
Did you have something?
So something else I did want tobring up this weekend.
I posted this post on my story,which was for like motivational
purposes or something like that.

(21:38):
Like I I felt like I I had it onmy heart to share it.
And then within like 10 minutes,I took it down, and I had like
mixed reviews in my head aboutthe whole situation.
What happened?
So I'm in a lift, coming home,and it's this woman, older black

(22:01):
lady, uh, 60, I believe.
She she's 60.
Um, and she had the brightest,excuse me, the brightest smile.
Like, like I said, older blacklady, so it definitely reminds
you of your grandmother, youraunt, your, you know, it's very
relatable.
Talking, just talking.

(22:23):
And she was talking about hersons and talking about a whole
bunch of other stuff, and thenit's just you, it's just one of
them the black women that liketo talk for real.
So, and I'm just bigging it up,you know, and then it gets to
the point now the ride is maybelike 15 minutes or something.
No, it's like 20 minutes.
So, like, you know, the 10minutes went by now, we're a

(22:45):
little bit more acclimated toeach other.
And then she starts opening up,and then she says, you know, um
uh so yeah, and I picked up thisguy one time, and we were
talking about God, and we weretalking about all of this this
stuff, like really building arapport with each other, and by

(23:08):
the end of the ride, he gets outand he says that he has COVID.
And she ends up getting hisnumber or something like that,
so I guess he could check on heror something like that.
Two people that was on the planewith him died because of him.
Right?
She gets COVID.
I don't know what I don't knowif this is, it's gotta be

(23:28):
somewhat recent.
So I didn't even know COVID wasstill like throwing hands like
that for real.

SPEAKER_01 (23:33):
Yeah, but uh how did you know that two people died
because of him?

SPEAKER_00 (23:36):
Because she got his number.

SPEAKER_01 (23:38):
And I'm saying, how does he know?
Uh I mean, how does he knowthat?

SPEAKER_00 (23:42):
Uh two people on the plane died.

SPEAKER_01 (23:44):
Okay, yeah, yeah, but you know, I ain't keeping up
with people after that.
You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_00 (23:49):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (23:51):
I mean, but but maybe they were close.
Okay.
I had to have found out.
Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (23:58):
That's pretty serious.
Yeah.
So he had to somehow have foundout.
He probably was like sad aboutdoing that because he lied on
the application or something uhwhen he left Japan.

SPEAKER_01 (24:09):
Okay.

SPEAKER_00 (24:09):
And he had it, he lied, acted like he didn't have
it, and then he got on the planeand came uh here.
And uh somehow he found outlater that two people, two
people died.
So, does that, gets uh in thecar with the lady, whatever,
great conversation, boom, hetells her that he has COVID, and

(24:32):
then now she's like, How yougonna talk about God and this
and that?
And you first you're supposed tocare about your brothers and
your sisters, and now she'sgoing off on this dude, just
venting.
And then she says, Um, then shesays, uh, she got it, and it was
bad, like to the point where shewas driving for the school

(24:57):
system uh for 15 years, and sheended up having to let that go.
So she lost her job.
Then her son had to take care ofher, but her son ended up
catching COVID, and her son'skidneys almost failed.

SPEAKER_01 (25:16):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (25:17):
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
This is nigga, this shitthrowing hands for real steel.

SPEAKER_01 (25:20):
So she said this is recent?

SPEAKER_00 (25:22):
It has to be recent, because I'm gonna I'm gonna
finish the story.
So her son ended up taking careof her, and he ended up getting
it, then he ended up getting outof work as well.
You know what I'm saying?
Like it's like they're in thehospital, this the whole ordeal.
And then the landlord of herplace was selling the apartments

(25:46):
or house, I don't know.
And she didn't have the money tobuy it outright.
So basically they had to go.
And now they stay in a hotel,and she lifts basically every
day or every other day to payfor the hotel that they stay in.

(26:09):
And by the time she dropped meoff, she was just like, you
know, I can tell that you'reyou're a great guy, you have a
great spirit.
We talked about Kaya a littlebit, and she said, you know, you
make sure that you uh take careof your daughter, and da-da-da.
Then she pulled up here and shelooked up and she was just like,

(26:31):
Wow, like this looks a reallygreat place to stay, you know.
And I'm just like, damn, like,you know, I I just feel like she
she just said, you know, you areextremely blessed.
And I was just thinking abouteverything when I got out the

(26:53):
car, and then I'm like, damn,yo.
Um like we are, we are likeextremely because she was like
it took a lot, that wholesituation.
She said she doesn't know whatit was for.
Even her friends was telling herto sue this man, but a lot of
other people are suing this dudebecause of that whole situation.
And she said no, because likehe's already suffering, and it

(27:18):
kind of like ties into what Iwas saying earlier.
Uh, but yeah, she was like, no,he's already suffering, and he's
already going through his ownthing.
God's supposed to fight thebattles, you're supposed to, you
know, just do whatever you dealtwith.
And it did take a lot, but itdidn't take my life.
And then when she pulled up andshe looked at the apartments,
and I'm just like, damn, yo, um,I am extremely blessed.

(27:41):
Like, this is the people are outhere living completely different
lives and can go through things,and it could really knock them
off, like bad or very badly.
And I posted it, and that wasthe mind frame that I was in.

(28:02):
And somebody was like, Oh,that's really good, that
da-da-da-da.
You know, like like I was justbasically trying to motivate
people to look at life in adifferent way because we always
want to get to that next stepand the next thing and the
biggest thing, but you reallydon't really see how much is
here right now.
Um it was a very interestingthing, and some people got it,

(28:26):
what I was trying to give.
Then somebody hit me up, andthey actually said something
that was in the back of my mind,but I kind of like put it down.
Excuse me.
I kind of put it down because Iwas thinking this this message
is more important than thisthing that's in the back of my
mind.
But they brought it up, and thenthey were like, you know, I get

(28:49):
what you're saying about allthis, and then she was like,
some people basically withoutsaying, I don't want to make it
sound like this person was justsuper mean or whatever, but it
was just like a a realistic wayof looking at the situation, and

(29:09):
it was just like certain peopleend up have first of all, life
is life in general.
So, you know, everybody'ssubject to or no one is exempt
from going through something, orthe the the the actual heaviness
that life can actually bring.
However, this person brought itup, and it was in the back of my

(29:32):
mind too when I was in the car.
And it seems like that is true,but there is also a thing that's
true of like, or I feel like,although I want to get I want to
get your perspective on this.
Um that also, even though lifedoes life, we have a lot more

(29:57):
control than we think we do ofourselves.
Situations.
So me feeling sad.
I don't want to sound crazysaying this, but like I do, I am
empathetic to that situation.
And a lot of people that gothrough certain things like
that.
But just like I told you earlierwhen we were talking about me

(30:19):
being in this game for so long,but not figuring out that thing.
And the difference between meand that person is they figured
it out.
Nigga, I gotta figure it out.
I feel like there's another wayof looking at things sometimes
where yes, life can like lifeand it could knock you down and
stuff, but there is aresponsibility there of putting
yourself in different positions.

SPEAKER_01 (30:41):
Absolutely.

SPEAKER_00 (30:42):
Because if I was in a hotel with my mom, dog, I I I
would have to do the most to getout of that.
I have to.
And even me even being strucklike that to even be in that
situation would make me feellike I have some type of

(31:04):
responsibility of even beingthere.
Not necessarily it's a hundredpercent.
Well, I mean, as a man, I Ialways be like, everything's a
hundred percent my fault.
It just makes me cope withthings better that way to not
blame anybody for anything.
Yeah, life is life, but shit, ifI had a stash, I wouldn't even
be going through this right now.
So I always just wanted to askyou, like, your perspective on

(31:27):
that.
Like, do you feel like do youfeel like everything is based
off of just like some people ormost people are in their
situation that they can't getout of because of life?
Or is it like, and you canempathize with that?
Like I said, this is a sadstory, very sad story.
The older mom, 60, her son istrying to take care of her, he's

(31:50):
he's there too.
You know what I'm saying?
So, or are we not taking theright steps to save us from
these rainy days that could turninto tsunamis?
I got you.

SPEAKER_01 (32:03):
Well, I already told you I don't feel bad for
homeschooling.
I'm just kidding.
Well, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I just wanted to lighten it up alittle bit.
Yeah, yeah, but uh yeah, so it'sI mean, it's a blend, right?
You know, like there's thingsthat are out of your control.
You can control if a tornadohits your house and destroys
everything.
But what you can control is youmaking sure you have insurance

(32:26):
and protecting yourself.
Yeah, so some things are gonnahappen, life is gonna happen,
you know, uh a bullet can strikeus dead now, and there's nothing
we can do about it, but we canmake sure we're prepared as best
as possible.
Um, that's um, I know we we weall live, you know, damn near
paycheck to paycheck.
We, you know, we're strugglingas Americans here.

(32:47):
But that's uh I mean, but that'sa importance also of community.
You know, she's older in age,maybe she may not have that, but
also I'm kind of looking at herson.
Is his son like, is he Downsyndrome or you know what I
mean?
Like, is he is he a workingbody?

SPEAKER_00 (33:04):
Uh yeah, he's working.

SPEAKER_01 (33:05):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay, so okay, gotcha.
So so I'm wondering, like, whyis he not able to provide?
Yeah, like why are you not ableto come have income together?

SPEAKER_00 (33:16):
Because just because they are, they're just even at a
hotel.

SPEAKER_01 (33:19):
Okay, so where was what so you don't have any
credit or you have bad credit?
Was that wasn't that COVID'sfault?
Like, you know what I mean?
Like, so maybe, you know, maybethey they got swarmed with
medical bills over it, but thosetake time.
They don't just, you know, likein terms of hitting your credit,

(33:41):
you know, there's time there'spayment plans, so there's things
you can do.
So there is some things shedidn't cover herself on the back
end, clearly.
But I think we I mean, we'rewe're all, you know, just
probably a couple months, notmaybe a week or two for missing
a paycheck or struggling.
Um, so I can't really say whatis in what's her fault fault.

(34:05):
I'm not saying for herspecifically, but just for but
in general, I'm I always land onmy regardless.
Um, you can feel bad, but at theend of the day, what is it truly
gonna mean?
You know, like it doesn't soundlike she's asking for you to
feel bad for her.
She's just venting because ofwhat is what it is.

(34:25):
So she's just having aconversation.
It's like, yeah, so the story ishey, hey, be blessed because
anything happened at the time,but it's also not, hey, don't
feel bad for me.
Yeah, so I think that is likedang.
You know, I think it's like howmy nephew is, like how he can't
walk.
I don't think I don't, you know,Lord willing, I'll be there next

(34:46):
month and I'm gonna do my bestto do so.
But from what I'm understanding,there's no feel bad for me
mentality, but his situation ishella unfortunate to you know be
taking your ability to walk justlike that for no reason, you
know.

SPEAKER_00 (35:00):
Like you do you want to explain it?

SPEAKER_01 (35:02):
Um that's what I'm saying.
You know, pretty much gettinggetting to long story short,
getting to a coma waking up, andyou don't know how you got
there, you don't know whatcaused it, and you just wake up
with not with the ability towalk.
It's not there's really not muchto explain.
Yeah, because there's yeah,because the doctors don't know.

SPEAKER_00 (35:22):
That's crazy.

SPEAKER_01 (35:23):
Yeah, so you know, so he was now he's finally out
of the hospital, but it's justlike dang.
It's like those are the reasonswhy you're like, I am blessed.
How much can I really complain?
There's a lot I can complain on,but at the end of the day, you
know what I mean?
There's so many more peoplewhose situation is worse.
Even her situation ain't thatbad.

(35:44):
She's able to pay for a place tostay.
It may not be exactly what shewants, right?
But it is shelter, and God isproviding.
God didn't destroy her hervehicle is still working.
Did it feel like it was runningwell?

SPEAKER_00 (35:57):
Uh, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (35:57):
Okay, so her vehicle was running well, able to make
income.

SPEAKER_00 (36:00):
She was saying all of this too.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (36:02):
Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So, so there's yeah.
My friend, who we both know, wasstaying at a at a hotel for a
long time.
And then he finally got him anapartment with him and his
family.
So that those things, those arecome-ups.
It's it's it's I'm not gonna sayI would I would definitely
empathize and like dang thatthat's unfortunate.

(36:25):
But um, but her situation isthat's you know, that's I a
really good story to tell.
Um, but and I think that herstory's not done.
There's things that but I guessI'm saying all that to say that
it's a little bit of both.
It's God's completely incontrol.
And so we we just gotta do ourbest part to be prepared.

(36:49):
Because we at the end of theday, I'm I'm not the person who
wants people to feel bad for me.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So if I'm in a like a crappypredicament, I'm not at I don't
typic I rarely ask for a handoutor a favor of Lintu.
I'm very stubborn in that way.
And um, maybe I will in thefuture.
Um any anything can happen.

(37:11):
Uh so I also want to be humbleenough to know, like, bruh, it's
completely her fault.
She should have done this andthat.
It's like you can prepare it asyou know, you can pair it to you
know, uh 24-7 stuff happens.
Yeah, uh yeah, yeah, yeah.
Uh mosquito can bite you and getwest now, then you can lose your
you can lose this or that.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.

(37:31):
So first of all, that's tooscary.

SPEAKER_00 (37:33):
Well, yeah, the mosquitoes.
Uh yeah, if that shit come back.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
No, that was a perfect way to.
I mean, let's let's justconspiracy theory-wise.
That's a perfect way to get ridof a lot of people.
Uh mosquitoes?
You never even feel them.

SPEAKER_01 (37:51):
Either way.
Yeah.
That's the truth.
Yeah.
Um, so so I don't I think that Idon't know why you take I don't
feel like you should have takenthat one down.
I because I I'm the because Ifelt that.

SPEAKER_00 (38:06):
After after she said that, I was like, you know, I
was thinking that in the back ofmy head.
And I like, I like I said, Idrowned that out with the
empathy.
But in the back of my head, I'mlike, man, we all like I don't
want to be in that position whenI'm that age.

SPEAKER_01 (38:26):
Yeah, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_00 (38:27):
And then doing this certain again, you know, some
like people aren't born with thesame ambition and drive, and
like, I want to go to the nextstep or the next step versus
somebody working the same job inthe same position for however
many years.
Like, I I I couldn't do that.
Like for that long, the sameposition, like not moving up,
nothing, you know.
Um right, but I thought that inthe back of my head, and the

(38:49):
only reason I took it down wasbecause it was my page, I felt
like I wasn't being a hundredpercent authentic.
And like after that person saidthat, I was thinking of the post
differently.
And I'm just like, like, I'mgonna have this up here, but I
honestly feel like this now.

SPEAKER_01 (39:09):
Like, it's kind of kind of her father a little bit.

SPEAKER_00 (39:11):
Like theirs, yeah.
Like a little bit.
Like, I I have that a littlebit, so now this post isn't a
hundred percent authenticanymore.
Yeah.
So that's why I took it down.

SPEAKER_01 (39:19):
And the only part I think, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (39:21):
Which I'm glad we're talking about it here, so it
still lives on.
Yeah, yeah.
But yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (39:24):
And I don't, yeah, when she was telling, I was
like, I don't think she he sheshould have been mad at that man
about when he's kind of tellinghim about his story about the
COVID.
But I mean, what you mean?
Like she was mad at him beforeshe knew she had COVID from him,
right?

SPEAKER_00 (39:41):
I mean, he clearly had it.
So I'm saying that if this,let's say it's the height of
everything, and you know thatyou got like even you.
So you got a grandmother thatyou taking care of.
Uh yeah.
So if you in an Uber for 40minutes and y'all just kick in
ha ha, and this nigga say, I gotCOVID, that's gonna change some
things in your head.

SPEAKER_01 (40:00):
Okay, I'm I'm I I missed that part.
I thought he was just opening upto her.
No, right, right when like hegot dropped off.
So he he just he killed twopeople and then came up.
And then fucked up a lot ofpeople and kept carrying on.
I g I guess.
Yeah, I guess.

SPEAKER_00 (40:16):
I I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 (40:16):
I don't know how many people he affected, but I
mean, like, he just killed twopeople apparently from the
story, and now you still like- Ithink I think she found that out
later because he had just gotoff of the plane.

SPEAKER_00 (40:27):
Oh, okay.
So, yeah, he just she got himfrom the airport, and then she
made sure that he got or or hemade sure he got her number or
something just to check on herbecause he felt bad.

SPEAKER_01 (40:40):
Okay.

SPEAKER_00 (40:40):
Yeah, just in case she would catch it and she
actually caught it within like aweek or two.
Oh man.
Something later.

SPEAKER_01 (40:46):
That's like an aggressive covert.
I didn't think I thought it waslighter version, like that's
kind of scary.
Yeah, yeah.
We need to look into that newone.
Yeah, nah, that man said thekidneys almost failing.
Was she a bigger lady?

SPEAKER_00 (40:59):
A little bit.

SPEAKER_01 (41:00):
Okay, okay, okay.
Yeah, yeah.
So her son, and how is her son?
Because if she's 60, he has tobe in his 40s.
So I don't remember.
And and that, yeah, and that'skind of where I'm leaning on.
It's like, hey, what is he doingto provide?
I mean, he got a job.
Does he?
Yeah.
He got a job.
Okay, so the income from Lyftand that, you know, and that I'm

(41:22):
really analyzing the life, butthat seems like a lot of people.
That's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_00 (41:25):
All this stuff was in the back of my head, like
something's just Yeah, yeah,yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (41:30):
You know, there's a there's there's something to the
story that we're missing, forsure.

SPEAKER_00 (41:34):
Or maybe not.
Maybe it's just not enough.
It's just not enough.
And then maybe the situation.

SPEAKER_01 (41:40):
You know what I mean?
Like, yeah, that that canactually do do you well.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'm I do Uber for two years.
And that was not really it, butthat that was majority of my
income, and I did well.

SPEAKER_00 (41:56):
So I mean, I'm sure.
I mean, like I said, I don'tknow.
I don't know.
I'm not in her shoes or or orthe son's shoes, but it seemed
like the son was out of work fora while because of that.
Yeah, yeah.
The same thing happened with himwhere he had to like um I guess
lead a job.
That really doesn't like make alot of sense to me.

(42:17):
Because if you got COVID, nigga,you got COVID.
You can't come here.

SPEAKER_01 (42:20):
Yeah, yeah.
And now we'll see you whenyou're done.
We have medical leave.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, we got different things.
Yeah, I don't want to do that.
Now I'm picking apart a story.
Yeah, right.
Yeah, well, she was a very sweetlady.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So, yeah.
Nah, I remember.
Yeah, yeah.
This is now you that was a verysweet story.
Then I had an another Uberdriver.

(42:42):
He was like a foreign guy,Arabic from somewhere in the
Middle East.
And then he's like, you know,yeah, my my family is
struggling, yada, yada, yada.
And then he's just talking to meabout his story.
It sounds like BS to be real.
And then and then as I leaveout, he's like, Don't forget
about my family.

(43:03):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like, get your I like bruh, I'mgonna tip you.
Now I'm not.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
What?
Like, like it was like like aokay, so you're the dressing no
the the passing.
Yeah, yeah.
He's telling me a wax sob story.
And that's what I was thinkingtoo in the back of my head.
I'm not saying that that's thecase.

SPEAKER_00 (43:23):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
How many times you didn't tellpeople this?

SPEAKER_01 (43:26):
Yeah, yeah.
But but you the one who saidthat was on the road.
Huh?
Did she lead with that?
Like, hey, yeah, guess what?

SPEAKER_00 (43:32):
Lead with it?

SPEAKER_01 (43:33):
Yeah, yeah.
What do you mean?
No, I'm saying yeah, it's notlike y'all had a good
conversation going before that.

SPEAKER_00 (43:37):
Yeah, right, right, right.
Yeah, so it didn't.

SPEAKER_01 (43:40):
Yeah, his, he was went in as soon as I hopped in
the car.
Oh, yeah, she's a little bitmore experienced.
Like, bruh, like, stop it.
Like, you know what I mean?
She definitely hit it.
Let me tip gracefully.
You know what I mean?
And that's typically how itgoes.
Yeah.
Like, yeah, I'll I'll tip justnaturally.
But if you're going to give mesome, the man said, Don't forget

(44:01):
about it.
He didn't say that exactly, buthe by the time I was about to
get out of the car, hereiterated the the story.
Yeah.
Like, hey, you know, throw mesomething.
And I'm like, yeah, nah, Ididn't like that.
Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (44:17):
That's funny.
She did a little bit of thattoo.
Yeah.
But like, I'm like, I I don't Idon't even want to talk
negatively about that anymore.
Like I said, very sweet lady.

SPEAKER_01 (44:24):
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
I'm and I'm sure she was verynice.
And you know, I would have justthrew her something because she
was an old lady driving.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
Uh she's like, this nigga don'tgo tip, but let me get him.
Yeah, let me get add some sauce.
Yeah.
Uh yeah, yeah.
No, but uh, because you know,you hear stories going on, it'd
be sad.
Like, even it's not even a sadstory, but he was just he was

(44:47):
uh, you know, trying to do moreas a driver, you know, as when
he was driving his Tesla, and Iwas like, bruh, the way you're
going, he's like, Man, I don'tnever get tips.
Just talking naturally.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
Because he knows I'm he wasknows I was an Uber driver, and
I was telling him, like, yeah, Idon't never get tips, yada yada.
And then I was telling him likehow much I do.
He's like, man, I don't getnothing nowhere near that.

(45:08):
He's driving a Tesla?

SPEAKER_00 (45:09):
Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_01 (45:10):
Yeah, and then I'm like, I was like, man, I'm gonna
take care of you.
He's like, nah, nah, that's nothow I meant it.
You know what I mean?
But I was like, I I know whatyou how it is, but I feel like
that's some BS.
Because I'm enjoying myexperience, and people should be
able to throw you a littlesomething.

SPEAKER_00 (45:25):
And I was it might be an energy thing.
It might be an energy thingbecause I remember being in
Victorville, I used to staythere, and this one dude, I I
forgot where I was going.
As soon as I got in the car, Iimmediately started complaining.
I got in the car, he was like,another slow day.

(45:46):
He was like, uh and I didn'tthink that this was gonna be how
he was gonna be, because on thedashboard is a Bible, next to it
is something else.
It looks like he works hard andhe's very diligent and like
close to God type thing.
And usually that's a certainenergy that comes with that.
Right, yeah.
So like he immediately startedcomplaining.

(46:08):
He was like, Man, I don't get notips.
These drives be like fiveminutes.
Where are you?
He said he drives be like fiveminutes.
Where are you going?
Five minutes.
Yo, I'm in the back, like, whyhe picked me up?

(46:30):
Yeah, right.
That's I I want to say, like,nigga, why you driving then?
Like, yeah, you complain aboutyou in Victorville.
Yeah, right.
This is the middle of thedesert, you know what I'm
saying?
He's like, Yeah, I don't reallyget no trips out here.
If I do, it's just up thestreet.
I'm going right up the street,too.
Right, right.
I'm like, bro, you talking aboutme.
Like, what are you doing, bro?

(46:53):
Yeah, yeah.
So there are people thatdefinitely.
Did you throw them something?
I I I can't remember.
I'm sure.

SPEAKER_01 (46:58):
Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_00 (46:59):
But I was only going up to the street.

SPEAKER_01 (47:01):
Like, like, did that like a turnoff to like Brian?
Yeah, I got you.
For sure.
Yeah, that's funny.

SPEAKER_00 (47:06):
No, he's just immediately stuck, but you're
talking about me.
You're not even talking, it'd bedifferent if you like, man, my
last ride, they sucked.
They was rude and all this.
You you like, man, these peoplewith the five-minute drives.
Mine's five four minutes.

SPEAKER_01 (47:22):
Yeah, that's hilarious.

SPEAKER_00 (47:23):
Like, bro, you talk about me, bro.
Why, why am I you talking aboutme?
So, yeah, I think that thatmight be a thing too.
Like, it's just certain energythat people have.
Maybe your energy is a littledifferent.
Um I don't know.
But especially when you youcaught me off guard when you say
he had a Tesla, because that'slike not the worst experience to

(47:45):
have.

SPEAKER_01 (47:45):
Yeah, yeah.
And he was talking about tipsand trying to make them more.
He wasn't, he wasn't strugglingfinancially.
It's not like he wasn't downbad.
Let me say that.
Was he making I felt like heshould be making more given the
experience I had?
Absolutely.
And I just like, dude, why areyou accepting every trip?
Some of them are just notadvantageous, some of them don't

(48:07):
give you anything, so you bestuck in traffic that doesn't
make any sense either.
Um, but yeah, so but I yeah,outside of that, I was like, he
should be tip, you know, tipwell.
Yeah, right.
I felt like yeah, yeah.
Because I get sometimes I'll belike, yeah, I ain't just when I
hear people compare that tomine, I'm like, I don't know
what I'm really doing to reallytip, get to get tips like that.

(48:30):
Oh, I'm just chilling andconversating with folks, you
know what I mean?
Yeah, yeah.
But uh, and some you know,sometimes I don't be feel like
talking.
Yeah, and that can be severaltimes.
I'm like, bruh, y'all annoying,get the hell out of here.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,yeah.
And and and sometimes I'll saythat, I was like, bruh, I did
not play no talking, but youyou're like you you I'm enjoying
my time.
You're like, you got me to openup or something.

(48:50):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, and just havea laugh about it.
And sometimes I'll be in a goodmood and be like, bro, what
y'all on?
Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (48:56):
I I uh I used to drive Uber for I don't know, a
year, two.
And then I did Instacart andshit when I was in LA, but I
didn't used to talk.
I I I used to like because I wasalways scared of um knowing who
you were knowing who I was aftera certain point.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
I used yeah.
No, I probably should have,because I was not an awful lot.

(49:18):
Yeah, them long ass trips.
I didn't know I I wasn't fullymeant for that.
But like the same radio stationevery stuff, like all the time,
every day.

SPEAKER_01 (49:29):
Yeah, I remember and it's it's really it's really
good money if you know if youknow how to do it right in
definitely the city that you'rein for sure.
So now it's like it's it's theschool, it's a good experience.
Um, like, you know, of course,it there's elements of danger
because I don't know if you thethe um there was one guy that
recently got convicted forkilling an Uber driver.

(49:51):
Yeah, yeah, it was yeah, it wascrazy.
I think this is up inPennsylvania.
This happened several years ago.
It was a lady Uber driver, he hehad a mask on, grabbed her hair,
put a gun to her, and she'slike, I have a family.
He's like, I got one too.
Oh yeah, you mentioned that.

SPEAKER_00 (50:06):
Yeah, yeah, and then killed her.
You said the way you brought itup, it sounded like it was an
accident or something.

SPEAKER_01 (50:12):
No, no, he no shot and robbed her, yeah, yeah.
And yeah, like took her phone,tried to cash up himself money,
which is like, bruh, at leastlet me get to if you gonna do
something like that, let menegotiate my way into something
else.
You know what I mean?
But like, one, as like, let metell you this is a bad idea.
Yeah, you're let me present.

(50:33):
Yeah, as like you'retransferring your money to
yourself and I'm dead, you'regonna get caught, bro.
Let's let's find another avenue.
One, one thing I'm doing is ifI'm driving, if you put a gun to
me and you're crouching up,stepping on no brakes.
You know what I mean?
You're flying.
We're gonna do she's a woman, soit's a little bit different, but
like I'm thinking they're atthat they're at a stop or

(50:54):
something.
Uh that's not how it looked inthe camera.
It sounded like she was driving,because at first she was doing
she would yeah, and then she hewas kind of like tugging on her
hair and she's like, What isthis?
You know, like what's grabbingme?
And then um, because she had acamera and he took off the
camera thing, and I was like,bruh, this is like the easiest
way to get caught.

(51:15):
It's like was it his actualname?
I have no idea, but I mean hegot caught.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's like, damn, it's like justno avoiding dumb niggas.
It's just like people who don'tproactively think about their
own decisions.
And so I was like, dang, it'slike you can't avoid that.
Like somebody who was like, hey,give me your wallet, don't give

(51:35):
it blah blah blah and kill youimmediately.
Like, like, damn, like that'sthe consequence.
That's what you get for notgiving me the thing.
Yeah.
And then said it's like, man,shit, it wasn't that easy.
Let me move on.
You know what I mean?
Let me somebody else is gonnagive me it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So they run off and get nothing.
And so you all you got was amurder charge.

(51:56):
Facts.

SPEAKER_00 (51:57):
Nah, I'd be seeing, well, I don't know.
In the hood, people get awaywith a lot of things, but with
uh not necessarily what you'retalking about, but a lot of
people who end up killing likecelebrities and rappers and all
that, it's just like a ninetimes, I mean, nine times out of
ten chance you're gonna getcaught.
I don't know what changed in thealgorithm of the police, uh, or

(52:21):
I don't know what changed in thepolice algorithm and all that,
but it ain't like 10, 20 yearsago where people just get who
killed Tupac.
I don't know.
Who killed, I don't know, yougetting caught, bro.
Like, I don't remember in thepast at least five to seven.
Five to seven, any rapper whogot killed, for the most part,

(52:43):
they didn't find out who thesepeople were.
Oh yeah.
Yeah, it ain't like it used tobe back then.

SPEAKER_01 (52:47):
No, I totally agree.
Um, yeah.
Um, and then sometimes they'reboasting about it too.
You know, yeah.
Yeah, the younger they are, Iguess.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And it's and then they'll youknow, have money, you know,
yeah, yeah, be posted up withthe same sh the same stuff they
own they did in the murder.
Yeah, but yeah, it's just reallynot, it's not thinking.

(53:10):
And that's just like I gottalook out for every you know,
everybody, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (53:14):
That's the worst people to eat yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (53:18):
Yeah, because it's you know, the emotional man you
gotta worry about.
Yeah, somebody who is a veryprideful, don't have anything,
and all they have is theirpride.
Yeah, so if you take that fromthem, they're gonna kill you for
it.
Yeah.
But oh you make host somebodywho ain't got a big thing.
Oh, you made fun of me in frontof a bunch of girls?
Dead.
Facts.

SPEAKER_00 (53:37):
You know what I mean?
Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I don't even like uh I don'teven like like I feel like
drinking henny and going to theclub is a dangerous idea.
Cause like I don't I rememberone time I was at I was in Vegas
and this dude just bumped me.

(53:59):
I don't know what it was, but itwas something about him bumping
me.
I just like looked at this niggalike who the fuck this nigga
think he is?
And I I think about thatsometimes.
And he looked back too.
And then the girl who I waswith, she just like kind of
grabbed me to like go the otherway.
Okay, but I was just thinkingabout that.
I'm like, damn, like you can'teven get into random fights for
real no more.

(54:20):
Like yeah, you gotta be reallyhave yourself in check just in
case you run across one of thesedumb people who just don't care.

SPEAKER_01 (54:28):
I totally agree.
And that's what it that's whatum I like to have my distance
one from the next person next tome.
Like, if I'm walking on the samestreet, I'm gonna move over.
Because one, I don't know ifyou're crazy or not, and I wanna
be honestly so I can seewhatever if you pull out
something real quick.
And um two, it's just the thestory about the there's a

(54:49):
black-owned restaurant.
It was uh I forg I'm forgettingthe name.
Um but nonetheless, a man duringthe day killed somebody in that
restaurant, and I'm sure it wasover absolutely nothing.
It sounded like he was lookingfor him.
No, it was like he's sittingdown eating.

(55:10):
I well, I don't know to be 100%,but it seemed like probably an
argument uh uh ensued forwhatever reason, and then he
shot and killed him.
And I'm sure it was overnothing.
I'm sure it could it could havebeen simply like, dang, I can't
believe this mother effer uhdidn't open the door for me,

(55:30):
like keep the door open and shutit on me.
You know what I mean?
Or you can be like, excuse me,you know what I mean, or
whatever.
It could be something so small.

SPEAKER_00 (55:38):
That is wow.
I'm definitely blessed to nothave to or not have had a run in
like that.
Absolutely.
Yeah, yeah, because it's it'severywhere.
You never really know.

SPEAKER_01 (55:51):
Absolutely.
Where are we at?
We're fifty six.
I think we did it.
Yeah, I don't have nothing withthat.
All right.
Well, this is two for theculture.
We'll be back.
We'll be back.