September 26, 2025 • 57 mins
We dive into the power of showing up and how consistency has been key to building our podcast. The simple act of committing to record week after week has created a foundation for growth that fancy equipment never could.
• Just showing up is the most pivotal thing you can do in pursuing any goal
• The podcast has grown through consistent commitment rather than perfect production
• Vulnerability in relationships includes financial honesty, which many men struggle with
• Having friends who check you when you're wrong is essential for personal growth
• Yes-men are often created when we punish people for giving honest feedback
• Love letters and grand gestures feel empty when daily actions don't match the words
• Creating safety in relationships allows both partners to be their authentic selves
• Women feel most comfortable being vulnerable when they feel both physically and financially secure
Keep showing up for the things that matter to you. Consistency beats perfection every time.
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SPEAKER_01 (00:00):
And we are back for two for the culture.
I'm Justin Devante.
I'm Steven Ray.
Yes, sir.
We're back.
How you feeling?
I feel good, man.
SPEAKER_00 (00:08):
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
Come on.
Like shout out to the toasting.
Greatness.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
To greatness.
Yeah.
That's not good enough.
Okay.
To showing up on the podcast.
Okay, there you go.
SPEAKER_01 (00:25):
Oh, oh, I'm tripping.
My bad big out.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (00:33):
We definitely be showing up.
SPEAKER_01 (00:34):
For sure.
Yeah, yeah.
We're a little bit delayedbecause I've been, you know,
running a cold lately.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (00:40):
No, I told my homie that too.
About um just showing up, bro.
Just showing up is like the bestthing you can do.
SPEAKER_01 (00:50):
I got you.
SPEAKER_00 (00:50):
And what was that in regards to?
Um, you know, you know, um, uhuh, we were talking about like
like I don't know, life ingeneral, and he did not just
like give all his business out,but like he he he's just trying
to there are certain people thatlike don't take steps and not to
(01:18):
say like he don't or whatever,but I'm I'm giving a broader uh
uh visual of like what the wholeconversation was about.
And certain people in life theydon't they don't necessarily
like take that chance or thatthat thing to it could be a
dream, it could be uh a feeling,uh uh intuition of like, man, I
(01:44):
I really need to get into thisor that or whatever.
And or a fitness.
I need I need to get you know,like get fit and all this type
of shit.
And um I was just giving someadvice and it just really made
me think about um myself andwhere I am at today, and just
(02:06):
showing up is like the biggest,most pivotal thing that I've
done.
And like even with us, and thatthat that came up too, like the
podcast.
And it was somebody else, and Iwas like giving advice to.
And like, you know, I got acamera, I got this this this
(02:29):
stupid ass mic, thisda-da-da-da.
Like, what's your advice onstarting a podcast?
You know, and then like youknow, if you remember when we
started, the big the mostimportant thing was making it to
the next week.
Like it ain't this, it ain'tthis, the the the camera, the
light, the the is can we meet onMonday?
(02:53):
And then, you know, now we gotto the point where it's like,
what time are you ready versusdo you want to do the podcast
today?
Yeah, right.
Yeah, right.
Yeah, and it's like that's soit's so important, bro.
Like we couldn't we couldn'thave made it here.
I know it's not, it's not, we'rewe're not like where we're gonna
be yet, and we're not like wherewe started, but it's like just
(03:20):
show up, bro.
SPEAKER_01 (03:22):
Yeah, for sure.
And I yeah, and everything elseis gonna come with it as long as
long as you know, because wecontinue to get better, um, the
production and understandingrepetition, yeah, it's now it's
now it's a habit.
Right.
Um, and I think that you know,the uh viewership and you'll see
(03:43):
like even though it's not likebig growth, you still see small
growth.
Yeah, you see people tuning inon a weekly basis.
Um, so I I totally agree.
Um, even because I was like, youwas like in the beginning, like,
dude, where's the you know,where's the TikTok numbers come
from?
Because we get like three views.
I was like, hey, yeah, I'm withyou.
I don't see, yeah, I don't seethe like evolution in it.
(04:05):
You know what I mean?
Yeah, yeah.
And then, you know, now we'regetting a lot more view count.
And I was like, okay, now thismakes more sense.
Um, because the soulmate ones,uh, the soulmate, uh, I feel
like that was a that was a goodclip that was like um yeah,
yeah, yeah, that went up, atleast for uh TikTok.
SPEAKER_00 (04:23):
I I don't even know.
Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (04:24):
Well, like compared to our numbers on TikTok, it
went up.
It's not like it's like uh yourview number count, but it's
yeah, yeah, yeah, right.
But I'm just saying for oursmall TikTok, it it actually you
know what's funny, and not notto diminish anything you just
said.
SPEAKER_00 (04:41):
So let me start off with that, not to diminish
anything what you said.
I don't be liking when myfriends do that.
What?
They be like, it ain't yournumbers.
I don't be liking it becausey'all don't be knowing, nigga,
like zero to 50 views is great,like even me with quote the
(05:05):
numbers.
It's like I'm looking at thislike, bruh, like we had zero
views last week.
Now we got like 700.
SPEAKER_01 (05:15):
That's a thing.
Yeah, yeah, I I understand,yeah.
GQ me soda.
No, it's all about perspectivethough, it's what really what
I'm saying.
Yeah, yeah.
So I'm saying, hey, it's notit's not what the view count
that you know you're used toseeing, yeah.
But it is traction and it isgrowth, is what I was saying.
(05:36):
So I was I wasn't trying todiminish what we were.
No, no, no, no.
SPEAKER_00 (05:39):
Like that that's why I started off with that that I'm
not trying to diminish whatyou're saying, because I
completely get it.
It's just like, um, again, likeI'm me, so I don't I don't know.
I don't know what it's like toeven see who I am on the outside
or my you know, the the thegrowth or the views or the what
I don't even know what it's liketo see that.
(06:00):
But um, yeah, like I that thathappens a lot for me now.
It's just like it ain't yournumbers.
SPEAKER_01 (06:07):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (06:07):
But it what is it a flyer or something?
SPEAKER_01 (06:09):
No, I'm listening.
SPEAKER_00 (06:10):
No, I know I'm just I'm looking at you.
Uh but yeah, yeah, yeah.
That that that is a thing.
And I I say that to say, youknow, in case it's somebody
listening that that feels thatway, like, you know, my my my my
view count or my sales or myit's cool, but it ain't like
(06:30):
your or it ain't like whoever'sdog, like us growing this thing,
and and I'll be telling you,I'll be like, bro, we got eight
views.
Yeah, right.
Yeah, I'm like, bro, we goteight people sitting in for an
hour, like watching us.
Is that not crazy?
SPEAKER_01 (06:52):
I mean, that's not impressive to me, but yeah,
yeah.
Like impressive, and I'm justsaying that's coming from my old
podcast too.
Facts, facts, facts because fromhere we have um, because we
didn't ever really do videountil the end, which was our
downfall um for a lot ofdifferent reasons.
(07:13):
Um, but but we had a very strongpodcast following on a weekly
basis from tune in fromdifferent parts of the country.
Yeah, so it would that thepodcast was very, very strong.
It was like a word of mouth.
We had and it just it just grewjust the podcast itself.
Yeah, but it we never put thevideo in place, and if we did
(07:34):
that, it would have probablybeen a lot bigger.
So I I saw what we can do, and Iand I heard feedback from a lot
of different people on thepodcast and how much they
enjoyed it.
So, so when I see that, like,yeah, that's not, you know, I
I've been there before, I guessis what I'm saying.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And and so eight people is islike that's a stark contrast to
(07:57):
where I was in the past.
Yeah, yeah.
And I I saw those numberscorrectly.
SPEAKER_00 (08:01):
It's different.
It's like, I don't know, likelike audio, like you can do that
while you work in.
Yeah.
But video is like, I'm watchingthese niggas.
Yeah, yeah.
Like I'm I'm sitting down, I'mwatching.
But I get I get exactly what yousay.
Cause I do, I do, I I do listento I only listen to Theo Vaughn,
to be honest.
Like the only podcast that Ireally yeah, if I type in
(08:25):
podcast, Theo Vaughn is like thefirst one.
But um I'll listen to him sortof in the background while I'm
doing busy work.
So like for to for people to dothat for us is like crazy.
And also to to to piggyback onwhat you said, um what you did
(08:45):
with that last podcast was likeliterally I knew this would
work.
What do you mean?
What like y'all made it say howmany episodes?
50 something?
SPEAKER_01 (08:57):
Way uh way more than that.
Way more than that.
Yeah, because we did like twoyears close to two years?
I think so.
I know we did more than a yearfor sure.
SPEAKER_00 (09:07):
All right, well, either way.
Yeah, right, right, right.
When I saw like episode 52 orshit like that, I was like,
damn, like these folks likereally, you know, and um uh uh I
I I just knew your part in itand like how you showed up every
day.
Right.
And I knew this would work.
(09:30):
Right.
Because like you know, meonline, you can see it.
Yeah, you know what I'm saying?
Whether you you you again likemy friends and all that, the
content ain't for y'all, itain't for my family, you know,
it's it's just a side thing thatI'm you know, Steven is here,
but like race is it's it's aside thing.
(09:52):
And it's not for y'all, but likeI know y'all see it.
Yeah, and me showing up all thetime, I felt like that plus you,
and like uh uh knowing the lastpodcast that you you you were a
part of and all that, and howyou showed up and all that, I
(10:12):
knew this would work.
SPEAKER_01 (10:14):
So, yeah, and that's one of the things to where um
that's I agree with you, is thatyou take uh you have a lot of
the skills that I don't havethat that makes it great because
the last podcast, it was I hadto learn everything, yeah.
Yeah, like me, like starting offwith the podcast, how do you
(10:36):
record?
What devices you use, yeah,purchasing the equipment, yeah,
yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (10:41):
All this would be learning how to edit, yeah,
yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (10:43):
So all of it, like it was it was great for the time
because I was fascinated.
Yeah, and then I was like, oh mygoodness, I want to learn.
Oh, I'm learning how to edit,I'm learning a new skill, you
know, and I had the time for it.
So all of that was like verylike excited to do.
Um even the time to where I waslike trying to figure out how to
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video edit and do all thisstuff, all of that was exciting
at one point.
Now it's it's learningsomething.
It's like, oh, it's like it'smore of an undertaking trying to
learn it all.
Right, right, right.
Um but so you take a lot ofheavy lifting that I was like,
okay, I can bring off the youknow the the podcast stuff.
I have the equipment, I have thethe know-how to clip it down to
(11:26):
what I needed to, um, at leastthe podcast form.
But you know, I didn't havethat, you know, that uh that co
you know that co-star that Icould throw the ball to like hey
he got this, I got this.
Yeah, we should have it shouldhave always been uh a collective
effort, even if one person, Iwas like, I don't mind doing the
(11:47):
heavy lifting, but I can't bethe only, you know, I was like,
bruh, I'm the only camel herelifting up all the everybody's
weight, you know what I mean?
Yeah, and it's just it just camevery and it just it just it was
just just too bearing, and Ijust eventually got too it was
just too much.
Yeah, so and then everybody elsehad their own lives and then
(12:09):
their own life changes, right?
So it was eventually gonna wearout anyway because I didn't have
the enough taking to at the endwe start to work to video
record.
Um, but I was like, let me justlearn how to do it and put it
out there to the universe.
Um, but there's yeah, we itcould have been uh different
things.
Um a lot of it was on some of itwas on me.
(12:32):
Um so I you know I always try tohold myself accountable of the
things that could have beendifferent for sure.
But no, yeah, I think this worksgreat for absolutely no for
sure.
SPEAKER_00 (12:41):
Yeah, but I think after here we'll we'll talk
about that after to expand andall that type.
SPEAKER_01 (12:46):
And another thing that works, because what I was
um one of my concerns aboutdoing the podcast was like how
much can you really dive in on?
Yeah, because you're you're uhyou're a certain degree
separated for some of the topicsthat we talked about before.
Absolutely, yeah, yeah.
It was like, hey, you can'treally go in to talk about this
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one celebrity because you maymeet them one day.
SPEAKER_00 (13:09):
I might meet them, yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (13:10):
Yeah, so I was like, yeah, I was like, and then even
me talking about it can be arepresentation of you.
SPEAKER_00 (13:16):
Yeah, so I appreciate that.
Yeah, I really appreciate youeven thinking about that.
SPEAKER_01 (13:20):
Yeah, yeah.
So I was like, I I don't knowwhat because we used to go in,
you know.
You're talking about I'm like, Iam Yeah, you're like I'm gonna
leave it alone, you know.
But trying to just give an armon this conversation, and I
still and I still would do that,but you know, you still keep it
in mind.
Uh and but a lot of it, a lot ofour conversation you will too.
(13:43):
It's gonna happen.
Yeah, and a lot of ourconversation now is just more
um, it's not just on a specificlike news topic.
Yeah, it's just like talkingabout life.
Like I got a bunch of questionsum about life.
SPEAKER_00 (13:59):
All right, well, yes, you know what that was for
us, yeah.
That was clearly for us.
I I I fuck with you, bro.
Uh love you I love you too, bro.
SPEAKER_01 (14:07):
Okay, I got you.
I didn't I didn't know if youwas gonna be able to say it like
some men can't, like just hellno.
Uh okay, I got you.
SPEAKER_00 (14:13):
I uh yeah, for sure, bro.
You damn you yeah, out of my mymy friends, you're you're
definitely in the top for if youhaven't realized.
SPEAKER_01 (14:23):
Yeah, yeah.
No, I uh same likewise.
Uh yeah, that's that's okay.
SPEAKER_00 (14:28):
Yeah, yeah.
You know, you gonna cheersagain?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
To us.
SPEAKER_01 (14:34):
Yeah, exactly.
Cheers to friends, friendship.
All right, let's get into it.
So I feel like you know, wealready talked, we're already
kind of talking about it alittle bit.
It's vulnerability.
Okay.
Um, so this in terms of apartner.
Right.
Um, I got several questions onit.
How long does do you think ittakes you to be open up and to
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be vulnerable with the partner?
Do you feel like it just dependson the person?
Like, like in terms of hey, Ican talk to you.
Is there maybe certain partneror somebody you're talking to or
you meet, like, I feel like Ican truly open up to you.
Do you feel that ever?
SPEAKER_00 (15:15):
I I feel yeah.
That's that's usually the onlytype of people that I end up
speaking to for a while.
SPEAKER_01 (15:25):
Okay, I'm gonna stop you real quick.
SPEAKER_00 (15:26):
Okay.
SPEAKER_01 (15:27):
All right, compare your um your two last
relationships.
Yeah.
The one that was public and theone that was not that I'm for
more familiar with.
Okay.
So one was a publicrelationship.
How long, if you don't mindtalking about, how long did it
take you to be vulnerable withher?
Because she was very popularwhen you first started talking
to her.
(15:47):
Was it hard to be vulnerablewith her in the beginning?
SPEAKER_00 (15:50):
Um was it hard to be vulnerable with her?
No, no, no, like anybody I'm ina relationship with, to even get
to a relationship with me, Imean it was probably a bit
easier.
But well, whatever.
(16:11):
Even to get into a relationship,um it takes a lot for me to do
that.
And to be in a relationship withanyone, vulnerability is a part
of that.
So yeah, no.
Like it wasn't, it wasn't hardfor me to be vulnerable.
(16:34):
It wasn't hard for me to bevulnerable with her.
Um it did take some time.
For sure, though.
SPEAKER_01 (16:43):
Yeah, like um, yeah, like did she ever know your true
circumstances?
Uh like in terms of like um I'mgonna stop you.
SPEAKER_00 (16:59):
I'm gonna stop you.
Okay.
Yeah, no, you was about to youwas about to go in.
SPEAKER_01 (17:02):
No, no, no, I don't think I was gonna go in.
Like you was a broke nigga.
SPEAKER_00 (17:18):
You was broke.
Did you tell him?
SPEAKER_01 (17:30):
Okay, you know me better than I thought you did.
SPEAKER_00 (17:35):
I was trying to see how you was gonna say it, but I
was just like, save it.
Like, let me let me do it foryou.
SPEAKER_01 (17:40):
I got you.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm talking about in thebeginning.
This is all in the beginning.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (17:46):
Nigga, seeing that girl, man, dog.
First of all, I mean, you know,you know, she's Courtney now.
And I'll I'll say this,whatever.
Yeah.
Clearly, we've been drinking.
But um, yeah.
Um at the time she was hurt,baby.
(18:06):
Yeah, right, right, right.
Yeah.
Um yeah.
Yeah, hell no.
Why am I lead with that?
SPEAKER_01 (18:17):
Yeah, this is like why I'm gonna leave with that.
Yeah, because it's all about vowell, yeah, that's that's too
much.
Like, of course, you likebecause I I think we all have
that in in us as men.
We gotta get back on track.
Yeah, no, but we all have thatas men, like, hey, should um
(18:39):
because okay, so more than 50%of us don't have enough for
savings.
Um and so that's a lot of men,and uh it's more than 50%.
It's majority of people don'thave yeah, have a savings or
enough for savings or pay enoughto pay their bills for the next
month.
(18:59):
Yeah, yeah.
So there's a medi income.
We're all paycheck to paycheckfor the most part.
Yeah.
Um, so that being said, um thatthat's gonna be true for a lot
of men.
It's definitely gonna be truefor uh a lot of black men
because if that's the average,black people, it's just the
average is uh have it the worst.
(19:21):
Yeah, so um so so uh where was Igoing with this?
Uh I don't know, me beingbroken.
Yeah, okay.
No, no, that's not right.
That's not that's not wrong.
Yeah, yeah.
But so a lot of us don't haveit, and we there's a
conversation that we don't likewe necessarily don't we don't
(19:41):
need to ever I don't think we'reever gonna lead to it, but we're
also there's a proud element toit as well.
To whereas like hey proudelement, what do you mean?
Like, like I made it through it.
I can't yeah, yeah.
I'm going to push through eventhough I don't got it.
And and I and I have that a lotin me too.
SPEAKER_00 (19:58):
Yes, yeah, it's so silly in a bottle.
SPEAKER_01 (20:01):
Yeah, because I'll even speak on myself.
There's a lot of times I don'tgot it at all.
You know, and I'm like, I gotta,you know, there's this, you
know, date night that'sexpected, you know, things are,
you know, I have more money thanI thought I was gonna that I
thought I was gonna have, orless money, and I still gotta
act like everything's cool andokay.
(20:24):
Um, even though I hate thatthis, you know, that this bill's
coming.
But I said I was gonna do it, sowe're here now.
Um, but now it's more to belike, hey, I'm only hurting
myself, because it was aconversation that um I had with
my girlfriend.
Um this was like we had broke upand we was like getting kind of
(20:47):
things back together, and it wasa point element.
I was just like, let me behonest about the um what was
going on during this time.
Yeah.
And I was like, you know, whenwe had tripped that to take that
trip to DC, um like that waspretty much all my savings, yada
yada.
I did that for you, you know,and um and it was an element of
(21:12):
like I don't care.
Like that that was not however Isaid it didn't penetrate like I
thought it would.
Yeah, yeah.
And I and so because I was like,now I had this job.
This was when we I was stilldoing interviews and process,
and I still wanted to be makethis special because we had
talked about it before, and youknow, that I was going to sleep
at charging stations trying toget some rest during in between
(21:34):
my work hard, you work hard,yeah, yeah.
And you know, um, so now it's ait's a just a tad bit different,
but I still have elements oflike, you know, I gotta spend
this, that, and that.
Um, but I didn't say that for along time and I just kept it in.
Yeah, yeah.
And then um that became anotherconversation.
(21:57):
But now it's like I'm not I'monly hurting myself, pushing
through for what?
You know, like I need to bevocal and communicative about
how I truly feel.
Yeah.
Um, because it's only hurtingme.
So if I can't give you the realreality of my situation because
I uh care what you think of me,that's not doing me any favors.
(22:18):
Facts.
Yeah, yeah.
So so that that's why I'm like,of course, it's an element of
vulnerable, like, hey, you're inmy business too.
But there's a reality of like,hey, I don't got it like that.
And that's kind of where I'mlanding now.
It's like, bruh, hey, I'm I'mletting you know I'm pushing
through because you want thisthing, but I don't got it like
that.
(22:39):
And I'm not going to pretendanymore.
You know what I mean?
Because I'm only truly hurtingmyself.
Yeah, facts.
Yeah, yeah.
Because I'm on at the end of theday, I'm gonna have to pay for
this.
unknown (22:48):
Okay.
SPEAKER_01 (22:49):
Yeah, yeah.
Cause there's emergencies thatlike there's emergencies that's
gonna come around the cornerthat you're not gonna expect or
that you're not gonna be awareof, and that you trying to push
through may hey, that tire maypop.
You know what I mean?
And then you gotta pay an extracouple hundred bucks that you
didn't have.
Facts.
So I gotta be truthful, is like,hey, you know what?
(23:11):
Hey, if you don't, if date nightis what's keeping us together,
then maybe we shouldn't be.
Right.
Yeah.
unknown (23:17):
No.
SPEAKER_01 (23:18):
So I was yeah, I was talking about vulnerable, but we
can kind of move a little bitpast that because Well, hold on,
let me go then.
SPEAKER_00 (23:24):
Okay.
Alright, so uh, first questionon chat GPT.
Yeah.
Uh literally, like either way.
Uh do people fall in love withthe person or with how the
person makes them feel?
SPEAKER_01 (23:41):
Do people fall in love with the person or the
person make them feel?
Or how they make them feel.
I mean, I think they fall in Ithink they fall in love with the
person.
unknown (23:52):
Okay.
SPEAKER_01 (23:53):
Yeah, because how they make you feel is fleeting.
I can be, you know, umemotionally abusive too.
I mean, like, is that is that alie though?
SPEAKER_00 (24:07):
Emotionally abusive?
Like, like I know that's I knowyou, but that's a very strong
word.
Make me abuse.
SPEAKER_01 (24:13):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I got you.
No, I'm just saying, not me.
Like, like my bad.
No, I'm just no, no.
I'm just saying the person canbe emotionally.
I'm sorry.
But I mean, and this element oftruth to everybody, like anybody
can be emotionally abusive andsay you're not shit.
Facts.
So, so and and them give atruthful situ of how they see
(24:34):
it.
Right.
Yeah, and yeah, yeah, yeah.
You don't have to clear it upfor me, by the way.
Yeah, yeah.
And and and that's so, butthat's can be what's deemed
emotionally abusive.
Like, you know what I mean?
I'm not gonna call you the Bword, but I'm you know what I
mean.
They'll be like, hey, how youI'll be sugarcoated enough to
wear that's what I'm saying.
SPEAKER_00 (24:54):
Yeah, yeah.
I struggled with that too.
Yeah, women.
Um, I will say, like, the B wordis is very uh unfortunately, I I
have said it before, but umthat's too let me not like walk
(25:16):
off a cliff.
But but but but but what I'msaying is is um that that
telling people what they are,you know, um it's very hard to
do that, like in a nice way.
SPEAKER_01 (25:36):
Yeah right.
I mean, because you you it'sit's an element of putting them
down.
Oh god, but if they if if youdon't put the mirror to their
face, how do they really see?
How do you see yourself?
SPEAKER_00 (25:48):
Yeah, okay, so that's that's what thank you for
clearing it up.
Um that is exactly what I'msaying.
What I'm saying is is that thereare times where people surround
themselves with yes men and yeswomen that could be your
friends, that I don't consideryou a yes man.
You know what I'm saying?
And you probably likewise, Idon't at all.
(26:09):
Yeah, yeah, you probably don'tconsider me a yes man.
And um there are people, and umI've seen it a lot of times with
women, um, and probably not men,because I probably uh I'm really
good at picking friends andenergy that I'm around, so I
(26:31):
don't even see that shit.
But uh I've seen it where peoplewill they don't even know that
they're doing it, but they likehave yes people like around
them.
And then like being that personto be like going back to what I
said, like the B word, it's likeyou're kind of being let me just
(26:55):
be me, like you're kind of beinga bitch right now, like you
know, like that type of shit,sometimes you need to hear that,
you know what I'm saying?
Uh but but not for me, likesaying saying that specifically,
but like sometimes you need tohear I don't know, I'm hearing
(27:16):
what I'm saying, and I feel likethat's a clip that's that's just
like go out, yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (27:21):
So But I know what I'm saying, yeah, yeah like and
I agree, and look, and I can addon to that too.
Okay, yeah, because the the soyou you're right in the way that
you're saying, hey, people putyes men around them and and not
really knowing it, and and alsopeople are creating um the the
(27:42):
people that may have been nomen, yes men too, by by scolding
them or punishing them when whenwhen they're actually trying to
give you the truth.
They're trying to give you thetruth, yeah, yeah.
So you're you're creating a yesman when you say I'm cutting
them off or I ain't talking tothem.
You know what I mean?
(28:02):
You're talking, yeah, yeah,yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (28:04):
So so for example niggas off and be like, I'm only
you ghosting to ghost mean.
SPEAKER_01 (28:10):
Yeah, or even Actually, the no man loved you.
Yeah, exactly.
A hundred percent.
And you're ghosting the friendsthat okay, they already you may
have not responded, like I hatethat what you said to me.
They may have checked you whenyou was tripping, and then you
not respond for two months.
And they're like, Well, I knowthat I don't want to create this
(28:30):
thing fraction between usbecause I do love you, so I'm
gonna leave it alone.
So you you're creating no uh yesman, and and now it's not
bettering yourself because Ithink that we're both open up to
criticism.
I yeah, we may not love it, butI don't like it at all.
Yeah, but like but it's it'sessential.
(28:52):
You're like, we gotta know whenwe're trip when we're tripping
or doing wrong.
Absolutely.
How do we grow?
How?
Yeah, if everybody's saying,hey, you're doing everything
right, then you're that's rethat's affirmation, that's
reassurance, and you're gonnathink that you're doing
everything right.
But they're just that they'resaying you're when you do things
right, they're clapping on, butwhen you do things wrong, they
(29:14):
don't say anything.
So you never get the feedbackthat you need to make yourself
better.
And then you wonder why.
Oh, why this relationship endedafter three months?
It must have been them.
SPEAKER_00 (29:25):
Gotta be.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (29:28):
Everybody el nobody else says I do wrong.
SPEAKER_00 (29:29):
Yeah, bitch.
He definitely was crazy.
SPEAKER_01 (29:31):
Yeah, exactly.
He he did this thing.
It's it's it's funny how thathappens because they'll nobody's
perfect.
SPEAKER_00 (29:38):
The niggas.
You know, like this man, she wasshe sucked, she da da da da.
I remember that time you checkedme where I was like, I went off.
Like I I went in a pastrelationship.
Mm hmm.
Yeah.
And then you was like, bro, youreally like didn't have to do
that.
And I I knew I didn't.
(29:59):
Yeah, right.
But like somebody else said it.
SPEAKER_01 (30:02):
Right, right.
And you do you do that with metoo.
Yeah.
I think we yeah, yeah, and Idon't want to hear it.
But it's true.
It's like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I may be stuck in my way for themoment, but I think about it
like, yeah, that's kind of myyeah, yeah, yeah.
Uh but yeah, so I think we havethat with each other.
It's like something it hurts.
(30:22):
Uh my my boy Q has a lot of thattoo.
Um, like it was something, itwas it was something small I was
tripping about.
It was uh I burped and my girlhas a strong nose.
So he goes, ew.
She has a strong nose.
I burped.
Yeah, yeah.
(30:42):
That's totally funny.
I tell her as like you likethere's a uh on the side note, I
was I was watching the YouTubechannel.
She got a strong nose.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's too.
Hold on, put a pen in that realquick.
On a side note, that there isthis lady who uh her husband had
Alzheimer's, and uh she couldlike he went into this
(31:03):
Alzheimer's group, and theseAlzheimer's smelt like him.
Like, yeah, yeah.
So she could essentially uh soshe was at this Alzheimer's
conference, and then she waslike uh said to one of the
people who was doing the Q ⁇ A,like, why do people with
Alzheimer's smell the same?
Right?
(31:24):
And then he's like, There's nostudy based off of that, but
that's that study you lit.
I don't even know if that'sreally good.
That's not me lit.
Okay, that's what you're saying.
Okay, and so so Alzheimer'speople smell the same thing.
Okay, bear with me.
It's not a lit thing, okay,okay, okay.
(31:44):
And uh, like there's a fragranceof smell.
Let me keep on I don't I don'tknow.
I said I watched the YouTubechannel, I didn't get to ask her
any questions, but um so so thatquestion that stuck with her,
then he responded to her, andthen he's like, all right, um he
gave several people withAlzheimer's uh like she had he
(32:08):
had her sniff who was inAlzheimer's, and so she smelt
them, and out of the ten, shegot nine of them right.
Yeah.
And then not only that, the onethe ones she got wrong, huh?
SPEAKER_00 (32:25):
Are all ten of them with Yeah?
SPEAKER_01 (32:27):
So she had like a sniff test, like, okay, like let
me put this to the nine of themright.
SPEAKER_00 (32:31):
I'm saying are all ten of them they have
Alzheimer's.
She was like, Alzheimer's.
So let me get the Alzheimer.
SPEAKER_01 (32:38):
No, no, like she was like, it was a group of
collective shirts, and shesmelled the ones, and 10 of or
nine of them, she she out of theten, she guessed nine.
SPEAKER_00 (32:48):
Right, okay, okay.
But then some of them weren't.
SPEAKER_01 (32:50):
Exactly.
And then what happened was theone that she got wrong wasn't
diagnosed with Alzheimer's yet,but he actually had it.
Exactly.
So I'm saying that to say aslike, bruh, you got you can
sniff cancer out of people, youknow, because her nose is that
strong.
But it was she's the one, sheneeds to be like in the lab or
(33:15):
something.
Yeah, so yeah, so I was tellingthat to my my girl, I was
telling my boy Q, it's like, youknow, she has this was in the
beginning of the relationship,and this was sensitive, but I'm
being vulnerable.
And then she was so I burped andshe's like, ew, and that hurt my
feelings.
That hurt my feelings.
I got cancer.
(33:37):
Yeah, and then he was like,You're being sensitive, yeah.
And I like that is true, yeah,yeah.
And and then now that when shedoesn't, I don't care, but I'm
just saying sometimes we gottasay the thing that goes against
like I want you to feel me, butlike, nah, bro, you tripping.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And so I have luckily I have youand Q and other friends that
(34:01):
check me when I'm tripping.
Oh, okay.
And I I think that a lot ofpeople can't handle that.
And they're they just want yesmen to surround them because it
makes them feel good.
But it's not true, truly not totheir benefit.
And they wonder why things arenot going, the relationships
they have with other people arenot working, and since they have
so many yes men in their corner,they don't truly realize it's
(34:22):
them.
Right.
SPEAKER_00 (34:23):
No, that that is, yeah.
Actually, when I think about ourconversations and our
conversations with other people,our friends, I can tell, I I can
understand how you say I'm not ayes man.
Yeah, I definitely be like,y'all shouldn't be together.
Like, y'all, yeah, yeah, da dada da da da.
(34:44):
Yeah, yeah, y'all, da da da da.
So um same thing with y'all.
Yeah.
Okay.
Used to do it in the beginningof the podcast.
Yeah, you be like, I used tohate that shit, bro.
You you used to be like, um youused to preface it with
negativity.
(35:05):
So you'll say, you'll say, Ialready know what you're gonna
say.
But um, do you think you're agood boyfriend?
Like, no, no, no.
You'll say, you'll say, you'llsay like certain things, bruh.
Like, bruh, like it, it's it's acertain amount of of of no man
(35:30):
that you carry.
And which is probably the thethe reason why we still friends.
SPEAKER_01 (35:36):
Right, right.
And I I feel like what the pointthat you're getting it there is
true to whatever you was likegetting to.
Oh yeah.
Cause yeah, I I I do do that.
Um, because I think at the endof the day, it's it's about
care.
And some people I don't feel theneed to do that with.
Right.
Like you just do that.
Yeah, yeah.
I don't I don't love I'm notgonna say I was gonna say I
(35:58):
don't love you enough, but Idon't care to have go make this
back and forth thing becauseyou're gonna be you regardless.
Regardless.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And we, you know, this thisrelationship, you know, isn't
strong enough for that to youprobably look at me like I gotta
be around you, nigga.
Like yeah, yeah, and and and andmaybe I may not have the words
(36:19):
to penetrate that's light enoughfor you to carry it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You know, yeah, and I that'll betoo like I don't know the words
that besides it being direct, Idon't know how to say it to
where it can make you thinkabout it a little bit more later
on without it hurting, you knowwhat I mean?
Right, right.
Yeah, and um, so my nextquestion to you is uh do you
(36:40):
feel like you need to go totherapy?
Cause we I um from my knowledge,we both don't go to therapy.
SPEAKER_00 (36:46):
Yeah, no, I don't, I don't, um which is weird, which
is very weird for me to like sayout loud.
No.
Um maybe it's because I have Ihave people around me that I can
(37:08):
like speak to and talk to, andI'm I'm I'm at a place with
myself that I'm very vulnerable,then I'm like, bro, I can't
figure this certain shit out orwhatever.
I think it's necessary to go totherapy, but only for a certain
(37:31):
amount of time.
I think as humans, and you know,like I'm I'm on this like
scientific type of shit, likewhen you talk about your traumas
too much, you're in a habit oftalking about your trauma.
(37:54):
I don't believe that isbeneficial.
I think what's beneficial istalking about it, getting
through it, and moving on.
When you go to therapy and it'scrazy for me to even say this
because like I I I was once likea very therapy person, but like
(38:16):
I feel like it's very like likelike like like moment not
monumental, but mo momentmomental is that a word?
I don't know what you're tryingto say.
Like a moment.
Like it's very like deal withthis, move on.
Okay.
Yeah, I got you.
So get in therapy for thisthing, move on.
Because like when you do that,you're you're creating the habit
(38:39):
in your head of like constantlythinking about this thing that
traumatized you.
I've done that with myself, it'snot a good thing.
So yeah, right.
SPEAKER_01 (38:52):
Um, and I feel you, and that's my grandmother has
it, I feel like has a similartake on that as well.
Yeah.
Um the only thing that I that Islightly have a slightly
different take about is that doyou lean on your intuition?
SPEAKER_00 (39:10):
You know I do.
SPEAKER_01 (39:12):
Oh well, yeah, exactly.
Right.
It was it was a leadingquestion.
Um, so yeah, so by leaning onthat, a lot of things can be
like there's an intuition, thenyour then your trauma, like your
PTSD kicking in.
So you may have a similarexperience that make you feel
away, but you like this don'tfeel good, but it may be your
(39:33):
PTSD and not your intuition.
And when you truly don't addressthe situation, I feel like a lot
of people don't know thedifference.
You see what I'm saying?
I can see that.
Yeah, yeah.
So it's like if you never reallyfully try to dive into a
traumatic experience and healfrom it, then you like I, you
know, you lash out and be like,dang, where'd that come from?
(39:55):
It was like it was an intuition,you know, I felt this thing, and
it it was because of you, andlike, nah, that seems something
traumatic in your past.
Yeah, because I I'll be, youknow, be talking to people, and
you're like, you know, I fit Ifelt this.
This don't feel right.
And I'm like, you're cute,you're accusing me of of
(40:19):
something.
So like my intuition, I'm like,okay, I know exactly what I did,
yeah, and I didn't do whatyou're accusing me of.
Right.
So either your intuition is fullof ish, or this is PTSD.
Yeah, because yeah, like how canyou accuse me of cheating?
(40:39):
I'm using an example.
How can you accuse me ofcheating when I know I didn't
stick my dick in anybody?
Right.
Like that so I know what I did,so I know your intuition ain't
right.
So I maybe I did somethingsimilar to where the lot your
past relationship did that.
And and and now you're you'reyou're taking that traumatic
(41:02):
experience and thinking it'sthis.
But I know exactly what I did,so I know that's not either your
intuition is completely trash orit's PTSD.
SPEAKER_00 (41:10):
Facts.
No, I I definitely get whatyou're saying on that.
Yeah um the intuition is yeah,when it when it comes to stuff
like that, I can I canunderstand exactly what you're
saying.
SPEAKER_01 (41:22):
Yeah, so so as so as like I'm in a place of like,
okay, you can accuse me forwhatever, but I know what the
action that I did for realbecause I know I was there.
Of course, it's my own actions,so I know I didn't do that.
So you you're you'reautomatically telling me, you're
automatically telling me this isa PTSD.
(41:44):
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
It's like I know what I didn'tdo, so you can lean on that and
feel that way, but I I honestlyI it tells me either your
intuition trash or your PTSD.
So I was like, yeah, so I so Iknow you need that healing.
Yeah, yeah.
So I was like I thought aboutthat too.
SPEAKER_00 (42:02):
Like another, yeah, that's that's that's deep.
But um yeah, I don't know.
That's too deep for the podcast.
Is it?
I think so.
Like, like I think, well, maybeif let's just let's just say
(42:23):
they'll never see it.
Okay.
Let's just say they'll never seeit.
Nah, we've been drinking.
Okay.
Nah, yeah.
Okay, okay.
SPEAKER_01 (42:31):
Well, if we can put a pin on that, maybe notate it,
and maybe we can maybe anotherpodcast we can get your dots
together.
That's a whole nother thing.
Okay, you got an you got anotherquestion or topic for the
podcast before I guess them.
SPEAKER_00 (42:44):
Um, another one.
Let's see.
SPEAKER_01 (42:52):
Uh are you like any mini mini mo in it?
SPEAKER_00 (42:56):
Oh god.
SPEAKER_01 (42:57):
Okay, I mean, I got stuff, by the way.
Well, go ahead, big dog.
Okay, I got you.
I do.
Okay, so I've I was just talkingto you about the roller coaster
um today.
I feel like you got something.
SPEAKER_00 (43:10):
Uh uh, the the second, I don't know.
The second one is but but youhaven't you haven't dealt with
that.
I have.
Okay.
Uh, I'm gonna just read thethird one.
Didn't even read it yet.
Okay.
Fuck it.
Let's go.
Uh do soulmates truth.
We talked about soulmates.
We did.
I'm gonna go with four.
Is unconditional love realisticin human relationships, or is it
(43:34):
conditional by nature?
I mean I think uh-huh.
A little bit.
No, go ahead and cook realquick.
No, no, no, no.
SPEAKER_01 (43:42):
Because unconditional is I think that's
um now I'm about to look it up.
Unconditional love is showinglove for another person without
considering how it'll benefityou, or what you would get in
return.
Okay, okay.
I can I think that's very rare.
Okay, unconditional love fromthat's that's not how I
(44:02):
interpreted when you first saidit.
Well, I think that is showinglove for another person without
considering how it would benefityou.
Facts.
Or how you would get in return.
Facts.
I yeah, unconditional love is isreal.
Like I love my grandmother, Ilove my mom, unconditional love.
We're not talking about that.
Okay, well, I'm just saying thatmeans it exists though.
SPEAKER_00 (44:22):
Facts.
Okay, yeah, I'm saying like uhuh relationships.
Um you're in a relationship, soI don't want to like no blood
out there.
I I gave I gave let's take herout.
SPEAKER_01 (44:35):
Let's take her out and uh we let's keep her in.
So, like for for me, it's thisis just therapeutic if if if if
somebody ever feels a way aboutit, is that's a conversation
that we'll have.
Because like I at this point,I'm like, just be vulnerable and
speak your truth becausesomebody may be going through a
similar situation than you, andthat is, and I I'm not the
(44:58):
person to try like put makeup ona pig, and I talk about my
relationship enough to otherpeople, make up on the pig,
yeah, yeah, so to where it'slike bruh, hey, it is what it
is.
If maybe me speaking openly, I'mnot saying for this, but maybe
sometimes speaking openly willmake that change, and me
speaking up will, yeah, likehey, sometimes you gotta uh it
(45:21):
can it can help her her to help.
But okay, showing love foranother person without
considering how to benefit youor you're getting returned, I
can say in my relationship thatI is it's somewhat conditional.
So, and I'll speak for myselfand I won't I'll take her out,
um, take how she um what shedoes.
(45:42):
But I feel like what I do isconditional because um if I'm
doing something for you and youjust don't really care about it,
then or how how I interpret asyou don't care.
Um and you may, and I'm I'msaying it, I'm saying it wrong,
(46:06):
um you may care about the thingthat I do for you, or you may
ask me to do this thing, but ifit's not um, if you're not
showing me the love that I thatI should feel, then it makes me
not want to do the thinganymore.
So for I'm gonna use acompletely separate example.
If you tell me to take out thetrash, and it's not my trash, we
(46:30):
don't live together, um, and mytra the trash is 500 yards away.
And I that's not my trash.
I'm taking out your trashbecause you asked me to, and I
start taking out your trashcommonly, and you just don't
care.
It makes me not want to take outthe trash anymore.
Okay, yeah, it's like you don'tappreciate the thing, the act.
(46:52):
So why why would I continue todo it?
And that's how I feel aboutcertain things.
Now that's very small incomparison to other things, but
yeah, yeah, but it's like, okay,I know you want me to do this
thing, and actually you need itneeds to be done.
Or say if the trash is so heavythat you can't take it out
(47:14):
yourself, then you shouldappreciate me being here for to
be able to do this thing, right?
So, um, and now I'll um I'll sayum I'll add on to it a little
bit.
Because I talked about this tomy mom about love letters, and I
(47:34):
maybe mentioned love letters toyou.
Or have I ever talked about loveletters?
No.
Okay.
How do you feel about loveletters?
Because this reminds me of maybeyou did.
Um I think we have.
I think we have because I talkedabout um love letters.
SPEAKER_00 (47:50):
It just ain't in like get up to the par that I
would love for it to be.
SPEAKER_01 (47:56):
Hey, you're so I can write this love letter telling
you how much you mean to me andhow much important you are in my
life and how life-changing.
If but it don't if I say that,if I say that to you, but
ultimately like like dang, thissounds like I'm gold.
But if you're not treating melike gold, then it's it's
(48:19):
exactly what the love letter isexactly what it is.
It's a love, it's it's it'swords on a sheet of paper.
SPEAKER_00 (48:25):
Words on a sheet of paper.
SPEAKER_01 (48:27):
Yeah, so and that's kind of where I land with it.
It's like, okay, oh, that feelsgreat, that sounds good, but if
I'm coming home and you're mad,you're upset, and it's like you
can miss me if I'm here gone,then that love letter doesn't
mean that much to me becauseyou're not honoring the words
that you're saying.
(48:48):
You know what I mean?
Because if if if I've truly feelabout this, like like dang, I
love my mom.
But but if I ain't if I ain'tsaying like yeah, like you're
cussing my mom out, you knowwhat I mean?
Yeah, yeah.
I cussing my mom like you suck,you always been terrible,
mother.
I never appreciate what youdone.
You you didn't do much for me.
SPEAKER_00 (49:06):
Upload a video.
I love my mom.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (49:09):
Yeah, then it's is that that letter doesn't mean
much.
Facts.
Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (49:15):
No, that that has happened with me a few times.
Uh and I definitely felt that.
It was just like, I don't know.
I'm a lover boy, like like asyou know, but like I I love
love, I love the whole thing.
And like, so my my letters behidden.
My letters be like very on pointto who you are as a person.
(49:37):
And when I be getting lettersback, some of them letters just
be like, mmm, you ain't youain't doing that.
Like you ain't really like I Ithink I think you're inspired,
like from what I've done.
My letters.
I think you're inspired from myletters versus like your letters
(50:00):
actually meaning certain things.
But um yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (50:05):
So I would say that so do you feel like it's like,
hey, you're just saying thatbecause I've written you one and
you feel the obligation to writeme one back, even though you
don't really mean it for real.
SPEAKER_00 (50:14):
Sometimes, yeah.
I gotcha.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
They'll definitely be like,it'll definitely be that.
It'll definitely be.
I and now that I'm thinkingabout it, like some of them are
that.
It's like, nah, let me write himsomething because he definitely
changed my day that day, likemonths or years ago or whatever.
(50:35):
Yeah.
So let me just say something.
SPEAKER_01 (50:38):
But like I'm reading him like because sometimes I
want that, you know, like honey,I'm home and I'm greeted with
love and a kiss, like you missme.
Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (50:47):
But if I'm going, if I'm coming home and you rolling
your eyes, like I still rememberfor to this day, I had a girl,
um um um and I went to work andI came, I got off work and I
came to the crib, and she justhad a note there.
(51:09):
It was like, I'm so proud ofyou, or something something like
that.
And the crib was cleaned up, youknow what I'm saying?
Like the the you know, likepeople, men when we have women
and um they clean the house andd just do whatever, sometimes
like we we may overlook certainthings that they do.
(51:34):
But like the clean was I mean,uh the crib was clean, the
everything was like a differentvibe as soon as I came back
home.
And it was very like spick andspan.
And um there was a note.
There was a note right there,and it was like on the desk, and
(51:55):
as soon as I sat down, and thenshe was cooking food, and then
she was about to come in as soonas I was about to come uh uh or
sit down, really, like from thecrib, and in the note it was
just like great job today, da dada and then it was salmon,
broccoli, right?
It was it was normal, it wasn'tlike anything crazy, and it was
just like a plate there, and itwas like bruh.
(52:18):
I remember that too this day,because it was like being
appreciated, bruh, like thatthat that shit is so monumental
for uh uh men, you know, evensimply like thank you for doing
(52:43):
whatever, you know what I'msaying?
Like that shit, it really putsyou in a different mindset of
what you're doing it for.
You know, it's not like umyou're doing everything for
yourself, but like yeah, it's toto to to come to come home and
be appreciated.
(53:05):
That shit makes you want to toclock back in tomorrow.
SPEAKER_01 (53:11):
No, I I totally agree.
Yeah.
Um because and that is because Ilive by a positive affirmation.
Uh-huh.
Like that that's the feel.
Yeah, it's like you did greattoday.
Yeah, and and it it's it's alot.
And I feel that for feel thatlike, man, I truly appreciate
(53:33):
you.
Like, you know, you saved meduring this time, you know, or
whatever.
It doesn't have to be thatstrong, but it could be
something along those lines.
Like, yeah, bruh, like that youcame in so clutch.
Like, I can only imagine whenthe when people do podcasting be
like, bruh, I was about to killmyself, and then you actually
came through.
That makes you want to keepgoing.
That's fuel, bruh.
SPEAKER_00 (53:54):
Like people say that about my videos, yeah, yeah,
exactly.
Italy, yeah.
Like, hey, bro, I don't know ifyou understand, but like your
videos are medicine.
Yeah, yeah.
And I'm like, wow, like this islike you know, you know me.
Like as a side job, like it'slike a something that's funny as
fuck, and then I just do it, youknow.
(54:15):
I mean, I'm clearly likededicated, but but like to be
dedicated to something and to Iknow it's bigger than me.
Again, like I'm Steven in reallife.
That's race or silly, that's notme, you know what I'm saying?
And um to get messages and belike, bro, like you you got me
(54:39):
out of depression, bro.
You you da da da from women.
Hey, this was so funny.
I was going through somethingand like you really brightened
up my day.
Well, throw me some cooch.
Throw me some pussy.
SPEAKER_01 (54:53):
No, I'm just I'm just being funny.
SPEAKER_00 (54:54):
No, I'm being funny too.
Yeah, yeah.
Um, that's too much.
SPEAKER_01 (54:57):
But but no, but that's extra added uh fuel.
Um that keeps you going.
Yeah.
Wow.
SPEAKER_00 (55:03):
Yeah, and you you appreciate me.
Yeah, you appreciate the thingsI'm doing what like I I'm I'm
I'm better showing up tomorrownow.
Exactly exactly.
Yeah, same with a man.
Like the the the the when I hada relationship and I I had a
woman and you know coming homeand seeing her, like feeling
safe, that's the best thing fora man.
(55:28):
Come seeing your girl and youknow she feels safe.
Ooh, that's a different type ofthing.
SPEAKER_01 (55:34):
That's actually elaborate on that more.
What you mean feel safe?
SPEAKER_00 (55:37):
When she feels uh, when she feels safe, we got
about 10 minutes.
Yeah, on my on my okay, we canwe can wrap it up here.
Uh but um but when a woman feelssafe, man, that's truly who she
is.
That that's that inner child.
That's Kaya for me.
Like that's like those who don'tknow, like I have a daughter
(55:59):
named Kaya, and um when a girlfeels safe and she can turn her
brain off, that's that'sliterally who she is, like as a
person.
And like if she can just bethat, that's the best thing for
a man.
(56:20):
You know, like and to be honest,you have to be that nigga
though.
You have to, you have to, youknow, provide the experience of
like you said, like, you know,when you go out, da-da-da, boom,
you pay the bill, whatever.
But to your girl, bruh, likethat is the best thing that they
can experience, right?
Just like just being safe andjust being like taken care of
(56:45):
and all that, that is the hype,I feel like.
That is the best version of thatwoman that you're gonna see.
SPEAKER_02 (56:54):
Okay, yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (56:55):
Like when she's safe, oh, you're gonna get exact
you're gonna get exactly whatyou seek from her from the first
time you've seen her.
And and that's when the billspass due.
Okay, okay, I got you.
I got you.
SPEAKER_01 (57:06):
So not it not necessarily safe from it's also
not just including safe andprotection.
Like, I feel safe or protected.
It's more it's more of likefinancially safe.
No, both of them.
Oh, yeah, okay, I got you.
I got you.
SPEAKER_00 (57:19):
Yeah, like when they feel safe and protected, you
know, yeah, they are literallythat soft girl.
Just like, uh daddy, I love you.
Like that girl, you know whatI'm saying?
But uh, you know, the billspassed, dude, it's like nigga.
Yeah, then it turned to that.
(57:41):
Uh, but but you know, women arethey best when men are their
best.
SPEAKER_01 (57:48):
Understood.
I think that was a good closing.
That was a great closing.
Yeah.
All right.
Well, this is two for theculture.
We'll be back.
We'll be back.
Yes, sir.
And we are back for two for the culture.
I'm Justin Devante.
I'm Steven Ray.
Yes, sir.
We're back.
How you feeling?
I feel good, man.
SPEAKER_00 (00:08):
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
Come on.
Like shout out to the toasting.
Greatness.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
To greatness.
Yeah.
That's not good enough.
Okay.
To showing up on the podcast.
Okay, there you go.
SPEAKER_01 (00:25):
Oh, oh, I'm tripping.
My bad big out.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (00:33):
We definitely be showing up.
SPEAKER_01 (00:34):
For sure.
Yeah, yeah.
We're a little bit delayedbecause I've been, you know,
running a cold lately.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (00:40):
No, I told my homie that too.
About um just showing up, bro.
Just showing up is like the bestthing you can do.
SPEAKER_01 (00:50):
I got you.
SPEAKER_00 (00:50):
And what was that in regards to?
Um, you know, you know, um, uhuh, we were talking about like
like I don't know, life ingeneral, and he did not just
like give all his business out,but like he he he's just trying
to there are certain people thatlike don't take steps and not to
(01:18):
say like he don't or whatever,but I'm I'm giving a broader uh
uh visual of like what the wholeconversation was about.
And certain people in life theydon't they don't necessarily
like take that chance or thatthat thing to it could be a
dream, it could be uh a feeling,uh uh intuition of like, man, I
(01:44):
I really need to get into thisor that or whatever.
And or a fitness.
I need I need to get you know,like get fit and all this type
of shit.
And um I was just giving someadvice and it just really made
me think about um myself andwhere I am at today, and just
(02:06):
showing up is like the biggest,most pivotal thing that I've
done.
And like even with us, and thatthat that came up too, like the
podcast.
And it was somebody else, and Iwas like giving advice to.
And like, you know, I got acamera, I got this this this
(02:29):
stupid ass mic, thisda-da-da-da.
Like, what's your advice onstarting a podcast?
You know, and then like youknow, if you remember when we
started, the big the mostimportant thing was making it to
the next week.
Like it ain't this, it ain'tthis, the the the camera, the
light, the the is can we meet onMonday?
(02:53):
And then, you know, now we gotto the point where it's like,
what time are you ready versusdo you want to do the podcast
today?
Yeah, right.
Yeah, right.
Yeah, and it's like that's soit's so important, bro.
Like we couldn't we couldn'thave made it here.
I know it's not, it's not, we'rewe're not like where we're gonna
be yet, and we're not like wherewe started, but it's like just
(03:20):
show up, bro.
SPEAKER_01 (03:22):
Yeah, for sure.
And I yeah, and everything elseis gonna come with it as long as
long as you know, because wecontinue to get better, um, the
production and understandingrepetition, yeah, it's now it's
now it's a habit.
Right.
Um, and I think that you know,the uh viewership and you'll see
(03:43):
like even though it's not likebig growth, you still see small
growth.
Yeah, you see people tuning inon a weekly basis.
Um, so I I totally agree.
Um, even because I was like, youwas like in the beginning, like,
dude, where's the you know,where's the TikTok numbers come
from?
Because we get like three views.
I was like, hey, yeah, I'm withyou.
I don't see, yeah, I don't seethe like evolution in it.
(04:05):
You know what I mean?
Yeah, yeah.
And then, you know, now we'regetting a lot more view count.
And I was like, okay, now thismakes more sense.
Um, because the soulmate ones,uh, the soulmate, uh, I feel
like that was a that was a goodclip that was like um yeah,
yeah, yeah, that went up, atleast for uh TikTok.
SPEAKER_00 (04:23):
I I don't even know.
Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (04:24):
Well, like compared to our numbers on TikTok, it
went up.
It's not like it's like uh yourview number count, but it's
yeah, yeah, yeah, right.
But I'm just saying for oursmall TikTok, it it actually you
know what's funny, and not notto diminish anything you just
said.
SPEAKER_00 (04:41):
So let me start off with that, not to diminish
anything what you said.
I don't be liking when myfriends do that.
What?
They be like, it ain't yournumbers.
I don't be liking it becausey'all don't be knowing, nigga,
like zero to 50 views is great,like even me with quote the
(05:05):
numbers.
It's like I'm looking at thislike, bruh, like we had zero
views last week.
Now we got like 700.
SPEAKER_01 (05:15):
That's a thing.
Yeah, yeah, I I understand,yeah.
GQ me soda.
No, it's all about perspectivethough, it's what really what
I'm saying.
Yeah, yeah.
So I'm saying, hey, it's notit's not what the view count
that you know you're used toseeing, yeah.
But it is traction and it isgrowth, is what I was saying.
(05:36):
So I was I wasn't trying todiminish what we were.
No, no, no, no.
SPEAKER_00 (05:39):
Like that that's why I started off with that that I'm
not trying to diminish whatyou're saying, because I
completely get it.
It's just like, um, again, likeI'm me, so I don't I don't know.
I don't know what it's like toeven see who I am on the outside
or my you know, the the thegrowth or the views or the what
I don't even know what it's liketo see that.
(06:00):
But um, yeah, like I that thathappens a lot for me now.
It's just like it ain't yournumbers.
SPEAKER_01 (06:07):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (06:07):
But it what is it a flyer or something?
SPEAKER_01 (06:09):
No, I'm listening.
SPEAKER_00 (06:10):
No, I know I'm just I'm looking at you.
Uh but yeah, yeah, yeah.
That that that is a thing.
And I I say that to say, youknow, in case it's somebody
listening that that feels thatway, like, you know, my my my my
view count or my sales or myit's cool, but it ain't like
(06:30):
your or it ain't like whoever'sdog, like us growing this thing,
and and I'll be telling you,I'll be like, bro, we got eight
views.
Yeah, right.
Yeah, I'm like, bro, we goteight people sitting in for an
hour, like watching us.
Is that not crazy?
SPEAKER_01 (06:52):
I mean, that's not impressive to me, but yeah,
yeah.
Like impressive, and I'm justsaying that's coming from my old
podcast too.
Facts, facts, facts because fromhere we have um, because we
didn't ever really do videountil the end, which was our
downfall um for a lot ofdifferent reasons.
(07:13):
Um, but but we had a very strongpodcast following on a weekly
basis from tune in fromdifferent parts of the country.
Yeah, so it would that thepodcast was very, very strong.
It was like a word of mouth.
We had and it just it just grewjust the podcast itself.
Yeah, but it we never put thevideo in place, and if we did
(07:34):
that, it would have probablybeen a lot bigger.
So I I saw what we can do, and Iand I heard feedback from a lot
of different people on thepodcast and how much they
enjoyed it.
So, so when I see that, like,yeah, that's not, you know, I
I've been there before, I guessis what I'm saying.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And and so eight people is islike that's a stark contrast to
(07:57):
where I was in the past.
Yeah, yeah.
And I I saw those numberscorrectly.
SPEAKER_00 (08:01):
It's different.
It's like, I don't know, likelike audio, like you can do that
while you work in.
Yeah.
But video is like, I'm watchingthese niggas.
Yeah, yeah.
Like I'm I'm sitting down, I'mwatching.
But I get I get exactly what yousay.
Cause I do, I do, I I do listento I only listen to Theo Vaughn,
to be honest.
Like the only podcast that Ireally yeah, if I type in
(08:25):
podcast, Theo Vaughn is like thefirst one.
But um I'll listen to him sortof in the background while I'm
doing busy work.
So like for to for people to dothat for us is like crazy.
And also to to to piggyback onwhat you said, um what you did
(08:45):
with that last podcast was likeliterally I knew this would
work.
What do you mean?
What like y'all made it say howmany episodes?
50 something?
SPEAKER_01 (08:57):
Way uh way more than that.
Way more than that.
Yeah, because we did like twoyears close to two years?
I think so.
I know we did more than a yearfor sure.
SPEAKER_00 (09:07):
All right, well, either way.
Yeah, right, right, right.
When I saw like episode 52 orshit like that, I was like,
damn, like these folks likereally, you know, and um uh uh I
I I just knew your part in itand like how you showed up every
day.
Right.
And I knew this would work.
(09:30):
Right.
Because like you know, meonline, you can see it.
Yeah, you know what I'm saying?
Whether you you you again likemy friends and all that, the
content ain't for y'all, itain't for my family, you know,
it's it's just a side thing thatI'm you know, Steven is here,
but like race is it's it's aside thing.
(09:52):
And it's not for y'all, but likeI know y'all see it.
Yeah, and me showing up all thetime, I felt like that plus you,
and like uh uh knowing the lastpodcast that you you you were a
part of and all that, and howyou showed up and all that, I
(10:12):
knew this would work.
SPEAKER_01 (10:14):
So, yeah, and that's one of the things to where um
that's I agree with you, is thatyou take uh you have a lot of
the skills that I don't havethat that makes it great because
the last podcast, it was I hadto learn everything, yeah.
Yeah, like me, like starting offwith the podcast, how do you
(10:36):
record?
What devices you use, yeah,purchasing the equipment, yeah,
yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (10:41):
All this would be learning how to edit, yeah,
yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (10:43):
So all of it, like it was it was great for the time
because I was fascinated.
Yeah, and then I was like, oh mygoodness, I want to learn.
Oh, I'm learning how to edit,I'm learning a new skill, you
know, and I had the time for it.
So all of that was like verylike excited to do.
Um even the time to where I waslike trying to figure out how to
(11:04):
video edit and do all thisstuff, all of that was exciting
at one point.
Now it's it's learningsomething.
It's like, oh, it's like it'smore of an undertaking trying to
learn it all.
Right, right, right.
Um but so you take a lot ofheavy lifting that I was like,
okay, I can bring off the youknow the the podcast stuff.
I have the equipment, I have thethe know-how to clip it down to
(11:26):
what I needed to, um, at leastthe podcast form.
But you know, I didn't havethat, you know, that uh that co
you know that co-star that Icould throw the ball to like hey
he got this, I got this.
Yeah, we should have it shouldhave always been uh a collective
effort, even if one person, Iwas like, I don't mind doing the
(11:47):
heavy lifting, but I can't bethe only, you know, I was like,
bruh, I'm the only camel herelifting up all the everybody's
weight, you know what I mean?
Yeah, and it's just it just camevery and it just it just it was
just just too bearing, and Ijust eventually got too it was
just too much.
Yeah, so and then everybody elsehad their own lives and then
(12:09):
their own life changes, right?
So it was eventually gonna wearout anyway because I didn't have
the enough taking to at the endwe start to work to video
record.
Um, but I was like, let me justlearn how to do it and put it
out there to the universe.
Um, but there's yeah, we itcould have been uh different
things.
Um a lot of it was on some of itwas on me.
(12:32):
Um so I you know I always try tohold myself accountable of the
things that could have beendifferent for sure.
But no, yeah, I think this worksgreat for absolutely no for
sure.
SPEAKER_00 (12:41):
Yeah, but I think after here we'll we'll talk
about that after to expand andall that type.
SPEAKER_01 (12:46):
And another thing that works, because what I was
um one of my concerns aboutdoing the podcast was like how
much can you really dive in on?
Yeah, because you're you're uhyou're a certain degree
separated for some of the topicsthat we talked about before.
Absolutely, yeah, yeah.
It was like, hey, you can'treally go in to talk about this
(13:06):
one celebrity because you maymeet them one day.
SPEAKER_00 (13:09):
I might meet them, yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (13:10):
Yeah, so I was like, yeah, I was like, and then even
me talking about it can be arepresentation of you.
SPEAKER_00 (13:16):
Yeah, so I appreciate that.
Yeah, I really appreciate youeven thinking about that.
SPEAKER_01 (13:20):
Yeah, yeah.
So I was like, I I don't knowwhat because we used to go in,
you know.
You're talking about I'm like, Iam Yeah, you're like I'm gonna
leave it alone, you know.
But trying to just give an armon this conversation, and I
still and I still would do that,but you know, you still keep it
in mind.
Uh and but a lot of it, a lot ofour conversation you will too.
(13:43):
It's gonna happen.
Yeah, and a lot of ourconversation now is just more
um, it's not just on a specificlike news topic.
Yeah, it's just like talkingabout life.
Like I got a bunch of questionsum about life.
SPEAKER_00 (13:59):
All right, well, yes, you know what that was for
us, yeah.
That was clearly for us.
I I I fuck with you, bro.
Uh love you I love you too, bro.
SPEAKER_01 (14:07):
Okay, I got you.
I didn't I didn't know if youwas gonna be able to say it like
some men can't, like just hellno.
Uh okay, I got you.
SPEAKER_00 (14:13):
I uh yeah, for sure, bro.
You damn you yeah, out of my mymy friends, you're you're
definitely in the top for if youhaven't realized.
SPEAKER_01 (14:23):
Yeah, yeah.
No, I uh same likewise.
Uh yeah, that's that's okay.
SPEAKER_00 (14:28):
Yeah, yeah.
You know, you gonna cheersagain?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
To us.
SPEAKER_01 (14:34):
Yeah, exactly.
Cheers to friends, friendship.
All right, let's get into it.
So I feel like you know, wealready talked, we're already
kind of talking about it alittle bit.
It's vulnerability.
Okay.
Um, so this in terms of apartner.
Right.
Um, I got several questions onit.
How long does do you think ittakes you to be open up and to
(14:55):
be vulnerable with the partner?
Do you feel like it just dependson the person?
Like, like in terms of hey, Ican talk to you.
Is there maybe certain partneror somebody you're talking to or
you meet, like, I feel like Ican truly open up to you.
Do you feel that ever?
SPEAKER_00 (15:15):
I I feel yeah.
That's that's usually the onlytype of people that I end up
speaking to for a while.
SPEAKER_01 (15:25):
Okay, I'm gonna stop you real quick.
SPEAKER_00 (15:26):
Okay.
SPEAKER_01 (15:27):
All right, compare your um your two last
relationships.
Yeah.
The one that was public and theone that was not that I'm for
more familiar with.
Okay.
So one was a publicrelationship.
How long, if you don't mindtalking about, how long did it
take you to be vulnerable withher?
Because she was very popularwhen you first started talking
to her.
(15:47):
Was it hard to be vulnerablewith her in the beginning?
SPEAKER_00 (15:50):
Um was it hard to be vulnerable with her?
No, no, no, like anybody I'm ina relationship with, to even get
to a relationship with me, Imean it was probably a bit
easier.
But well, whatever.
(16:11):
Even to get into a relationship,um it takes a lot for me to do
that.
And to be in a relationship withanyone, vulnerability is a part
of that.
So yeah, no.
Like it wasn't, it wasn't hardfor me to be vulnerable.
(16:34):
It wasn't hard for me to bevulnerable with her.
Um it did take some time.
For sure, though.
SPEAKER_01 (16:43):
Yeah, like um, yeah, like did she ever know your true
circumstances?
Uh like in terms of like um I'mgonna stop you.
SPEAKER_00 (16:59):
I'm gonna stop you.
Okay.
Yeah, no, you was about to youwas about to go in.
SPEAKER_01 (17:02):
No, no, no, I don't think I was gonna go in.
Like you was a broke nigga.
SPEAKER_00 (17:18):
You was broke.
Did you tell him?
SPEAKER_01 (17:30):
Okay, you know me better than I thought you did.
SPEAKER_00 (17:35):
I was trying to see how you was gonna say it, but I
was just like, save it.
Like, let me let me do it foryou.
SPEAKER_01 (17:40):
I got you.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm talking about in thebeginning.
This is all in the beginning.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (17:46):
Nigga, seeing that girl, man, dog.
First of all, I mean, you know,you know, she's Courtney now.
And I'll I'll say this,whatever.
Yeah.
Clearly, we've been drinking.
But um, yeah.
Um at the time she was hurt,baby.
(18:06):
Yeah, right, right, right.
Yeah.
Um yeah.
Yeah, hell no.
Why am I lead with that?
SPEAKER_01 (18:17):
Yeah, this is like why I'm gonna leave with that.
Yeah, because it's all about vowell, yeah, that's that's too
much.
Like, of course, you likebecause I I think we all have
that in in us as men.
We gotta get back on track.
Yeah, no, but we all have thatas men, like, hey, should um
(18:39):
because okay, so more than 50%of us don't have enough for
savings.
Um and so that's a lot of men,and uh it's more than 50%.
It's majority of people don'thave yeah, have a savings or
enough for savings or pay enoughto pay their bills for the next
month.
(18:59):
Yeah, yeah.
So there's a medi income.
We're all paycheck to paycheckfor the most part.
Yeah.
Um, so that being said, um thatthat's gonna be true for a lot
of men.
It's definitely gonna be truefor uh a lot of black men
because if that's the average,black people, it's just the
average is uh have it the worst.
(19:21):
Yeah, so um so so uh where was Igoing with this?
Uh I don't know, me beingbroken.
Yeah, okay.
No, no, that's not right.
That's not that's not wrong.
Yeah, yeah.
But so a lot of us don't haveit, and we there's a
conversation that we don't likewe necessarily don't we don't
(19:41):
need to ever I don't think we'reever gonna lead to it, but we're
also there's a proud element toit as well.
To whereas like hey proudelement, what do you mean?
Like, like I made it through it.
I can't yeah, yeah.
I'm going to push through eventhough I don't got it.
And and I and I have that a lotin me too.
SPEAKER_00 (19:58):
Yes, yeah, it's so silly in a bottle.
SPEAKER_01 (20:01):
Yeah, because I'll even speak on myself.
There's a lot of times I don'tgot it at all.
You know, and I'm like, I gotta,you know, there's this, you
know, date night that'sexpected, you know, things are,
you know, I have more money thanI thought I was gonna that I
thought I was gonna have, orless money, and I still gotta
act like everything's cool andokay.
(20:24):
Um, even though I hate thatthis, you know, that this bill's
coming.
But I said I was gonna do it, sowe're here now.
Um, but now it's more to belike, hey, I'm only hurting
myself, because it was aconversation that um I had with
my girlfriend.
Um this was like we had broke upand we was like getting kind of
(20:47):
things back together, and it wasa point element.
I was just like, let me behonest about the um what was
going on during this time.
Yeah.
And I was like, you know, whenwe had tripped that to take that
trip to DC, um like that waspretty much all my savings, yada
yada.
I did that for you, you know,and um and it was an element of
(21:12):
like I don't care.
Like that that was not however Isaid it didn't penetrate like I
thought it would.
Yeah, yeah.
And I and so because I was like,now I had this job.
This was when we I was stilldoing interviews and process,
and I still wanted to be makethis special because we had
talked about it before, and youknow, that I was going to sleep
at charging stations trying toget some rest during in between
(21:34):
my work hard, you work hard,yeah, yeah.
And you know, um, so now it's ait's a just a tad bit different,
but I still have elements oflike, you know, I gotta spend
this, that, and that.
Um, but I didn't say that for along time and I just kept it in.
Yeah, yeah.
And then um that became anotherconversation.
(21:57):
But now it's like I'm not I'monly hurting myself, pushing
through for what?
You know, like I need to bevocal and communicative about
how I truly feel.
Yeah.
Um, because it's only hurtingme.
So if I can't give you the realreality of my situation because
I uh care what you think of me,that's not doing me any favors.
(22:18):
Facts.
Yeah, yeah.
So so that that's why I'm like,of course, it's an element of
vulnerable, like, hey, you're inmy business too.
But there's a reality of like,hey, I don't got it like that.
And that's kind of where I'mlanding now.
It's like, bruh, hey, I'm I'mletting you know I'm pushing
through because you want thisthing, but I don't got it like
that.
(22:39):
And I'm not going to pretendanymore.
You know what I mean?
Because I'm only truly hurtingmyself.
Yeah, facts.
Yeah, yeah.
Because I'm on at the end of theday, I'm gonna have to pay for
this.
unknown (22:48):
Okay.
SPEAKER_01 (22:49):
Yeah, yeah.
Cause there's emergencies thatlike there's emergencies that's
gonna come around the cornerthat you're not gonna expect or
that you're not gonna be awareof, and that you trying to push
through may hey, that tire maypop.
You know what I mean?
And then you gotta pay an extracouple hundred bucks that you
didn't have.
Facts.
So I gotta be truthful, is like,hey, you know what?
(23:11):
Hey, if you don't, if date nightis what's keeping us together,
then maybe we shouldn't be.
Right.
Yeah.
unknown (23:17):
No.
SPEAKER_01 (23:18):
So I was yeah, I was talking about vulnerable, but we
can kind of move a little bitpast that because Well, hold on,
let me go then.
SPEAKER_00 (23:24):
Okay.
Alright, so uh, first questionon chat GPT.
Yeah.
Uh literally, like either way.
Uh do people fall in love withthe person or with how the
person makes them feel?
SPEAKER_01 (23:41):
Do people fall in love with the person or the
person make them feel?
Or how they make them feel.
I mean, I think they fall in Ithink they fall in love with the
person.
unknown (23:52):
Okay.
SPEAKER_01 (23:53):
Yeah, because how they make you feel is fleeting.
I can be, you know, umemotionally abusive too.
I mean, like, is that is that alie though?
SPEAKER_00 (24:07):
Emotionally abusive?
Like, like I know that's I knowyou, but that's a very strong
word.
Make me abuse.
SPEAKER_01 (24:13):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I got you.
No, I'm just saying, not me.
Like, like my bad.
No, I'm just no, no.
I'm just saying the person canbe emotionally.
I'm sorry.
But I mean, and this element oftruth to everybody, like anybody
can be emotionally abusive andsay you're not shit.
Facts.
So, so and and them give atruthful situ of how they see
(24:34):
it.
Right.
Yeah, and yeah, yeah, yeah.
You don't have to clear it upfor me, by the way.
Yeah, yeah.
And and and that's so, butthat's can be what's deemed
emotionally abusive.
Like, you know what I mean?
I'm not gonna call you the Bword, but I'm you know what I
mean.
They'll be like, hey, how youI'll be sugarcoated enough to
wear that's what I'm saying.
SPEAKER_00 (24:54):
Yeah, yeah.
I struggled with that too.
Yeah, women.
Um, I will say, like, the B wordis is very uh unfortunately, I I
have said it before, but umthat's too let me not like walk
(25:16):
off a cliff.
But but but but but what I'msaying is is um that that
telling people what they are,you know, um it's very hard to
do that, like in a nice way.
SPEAKER_01 (25:36):
Yeah right.
I mean, because you you it'sit's an element of putting them
down.
Oh god, but if they if if youdon't put the mirror to their
face, how do they really see?
How do you see yourself?
SPEAKER_00 (25:48):
Yeah, okay, so that's that's what thank you for
clearing it up.
Um that is exactly what I'msaying.
What I'm saying is is that thereare times where people surround
themselves with yes men and yeswomen that could be your
friends, that I don't consideryou a yes man.
You know what I'm saying?
And you probably likewise, Idon't at all.
(26:09):
Yeah, yeah, you probably don'tconsider me a yes man.
And um there are people, and umI've seen it a lot of times with
women, um, and probably not men,because I probably uh I'm really
good at picking friends andenergy that I'm around, so I
(26:31):
don't even see that shit.
But uh I've seen it where peoplewill they don't even know that
they're doing it, but they likehave yes people like around
them.
And then like being that personto be like going back to what I
said, like the B word, it's likeyou're kind of being let me just
(26:55):
be me, like you're kind of beinga bitch right now, like you
know, like that type of shit,sometimes you need to hear that,
you know what I'm saying?
Uh but but not for me, likesaying saying that specifically,
but like sometimes you need tohear I don't know, I'm hearing
(27:16):
what I'm saying, and I feel likethat's a clip that's that's just
like go out, yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (27:21):
So But I know what I'm saying, yeah, yeah like and
I agree, and look, and I can addon to that too.
Okay, yeah, because the the soyou you're right in the way that
you're saying, hey, people putyes men around them and and not
really knowing it, and and alsopeople are creating um the the
(27:42):
people that may have been nomen, yes men too, by by scolding
them or punishing them when whenwhen they're actually trying to
give you the truth.
They're trying to give you thetruth, yeah, yeah.
So you're you're creating a yesman when you say I'm cutting
them off or I ain't talking tothem.
You know what I mean?
(28:02):
You're talking, yeah, yeah,yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (28:04):
So so for example niggas off and be like, I'm only
you ghosting to ghost mean.
SPEAKER_01 (28:10):
Yeah, or even Actually, the no man loved you.
Yeah, exactly.
A hundred percent.
And you're ghosting the friendsthat okay, they already you may
have not responded, like I hatethat what you said to me.
They may have checked you whenyou was tripping, and then you
not respond for two months.
And they're like, Well, I knowthat I don't want to create this
(28:30):
thing fraction between usbecause I do love you, so I'm
gonna leave it alone.
So you you're creating no uh yesman, and and now it's not
bettering yourself because Ithink that we're both open up to
criticism.
I yeah, we may not love it, butI don't like it at all.
Yeah, but like but it's it'sessential.
(28:52):
You're like, we gotta know whenwe're trip when we're tripping
or doing wrong.
Absolutely.
How do we grow?
How?
Yeah, if everybody's saying,hey, you're doing everything
right, then you're that's rethat's affirmation, that's
reassurance, and you're gonnathink that you're doing
everything right.
But they're just that they'resaying you're when you do things
right, they're clapping on, butwhen you do things wrong, they
(29:14):
don't say anything.
So you never get the feedbackthat you need to make yourself
better.
And then you wonder why.
Oh, why this relationship endedafter three months?
It must have been them.
SPEAKER_00 (29:25):
Gotta be.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (29:28):
Everybody el nobody else says I do wrong.
SPEAKER_00 (29:29):
Yeah, bitch.
He definitely was crazy.
SPEAKER_01 (29:31):
Yeah, exactly.
He he did this thing.
It's it's it's funny how thathappens because they'll nobody's
perfect.
SPEAKER_00 (29:38):
The niggas.
You know, like this man, she wasshe sucked, she da da da da.
I remember that time you checkedme where I was like, I went off.
Like I I went in a pastrelationship.
Mm hmm.
Yeah.
And then you was like, bro, youreally like didn't have to do
that.
And I I knew I didn't.
(29:59):
Yeah, right.
But like somebody else said it.
SPEAKER_01 (30:02):
Right, right.
And you do you do that with metoo.
Yeah.
I think we yeah, yeah, and Idon't want to hear it.
But it's true.
It's like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I may be stuck in my way for themoment, but I think about it
like, yeah, that's kind of myyeah, yeah, yeah.
Uh but yeah, so I think we havethat with each other.
It's like something it hurts.
(30:22):
Uh my my boy Q has a lot of thattoo.
Um, like it was something, itwas it was something small I was
tripping about.
It was uh I burped and my girlhas a strong nose.
So he goes, ew.
She has a strong nose.
I burped.
Yeah, yeah.
(30:42):
That's totally funny.
I tell her as like you likethere's a uh on the side note, I
was I was watching the YouTubechannel.
She got a strong nose.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's too.
Hold on, put a pen in that realquick.
On a side note, that there isthis lady who uh her husband had
Alzheimer's, and uh she couldlike he went into this
(31:03):
Alzheimer's group, and theseAlzheimer's smelt like him.
Like, yeah, yeah.
So she could essentially uh soshe was at this Alzheimer's
conference, and then she waslike uh said to one of the
people who was doing the Q ⁇ A,like, why do people with
Alzheimer's smell the same?
Right?
(31:24):
And then he's like, There's nostudy based off of that, but
that's that study you lit.
I don't even know if that'sreally good.
That's not me lit.
Okay, that's what you're saying.
Okay, and so so Alzheimer'speople smell the same thing.
Okay, bear with me.
It's not a lit thing, okay,okay, okay.
(31:44):
And uh, like there's a fragranceof smell.
Let me keep on I don't I don'tknow.
I said I watched the YouTubechannel, I didn't get to ask her
any questions, but um so so thatquestion that stuck with her,
then he responded to her, andthen he's like, all right, um he
gave several people withAlzheimer's uh like she had he
(32:08):
had her sniff who was inAlzheimer's, and so she smelt
them, and out of the ten, shegot nine of them right.
Yeah.
And then not only that, the onethe ones she got wrong, huh?
SPEAKER_00 (32:25):
Are all ten of them with Yeah?
SPEAKER_01 (32:27):
So she had like a sniff test, like, okay, like let
me put this to the nine of themright.
SPEAKER_00 (32:31):
I'm saying are all ten of them they have
Alzheimer's.
She was like, Alzheimer's.
So let me get the Alzheimer.
SPEAKER_01 (32:38):
No, no, like she was like, it was a group of
collective shirts, and shesmelled the ones, and 10 of or
nine of them, she she out of theten, she guessed nine.
SPEAKER_00 (32:48):
Right, okay, okay.
But then some of them weren't.
SPEAKER_01 (32:50):
Exactly.
And then what happened was theone that she got wrong wasn't
diagnosed with Alzheimer's yet,but he actually had it.
Exactly.
So I'm saying that to say aslike, bruh, you got you can
sniff cancer out of people, youknow, because her nose is that
strong.
But it was she's the one, sheneeds to be like in the lab or
(33:15):
something.
Yeah, so yeah, so I was tellingthat to my my girl, I was
telling my boy Q, it's like, youknow, she has this was in the
beginning of the relationship,and this was sensitive, but I'm
being vulnerable.
And then she was so I burped andshe's like, ew, and that hurt my
feelings.
That hurt my feelings.
I got cancer.
(33:37):
Yeah, and then he was like,You're being sensitive, yeah.
And I like that is true, yeah,yeah.
And and then now that when shedoesn't, I don't care, but I'm
just saying sometimes we gottasay the thing that goes against
like I want you to feel me, butlike, nah, bro, you tripping.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And so I have luckily I have youand Q and other friends that
(34:01):
check me when I'm tripping.
Oh, okay.
And I I think that a lot ofpeople can't handle that.
And they're they just want yesmen to surround them because it
makes them feel good.
But it's not true, truly not totheir benefit.
And they wonder why things arenot going, the relationships
they have with other people arenot working, and since they have
so many yes men in their corner,they don't truly realize it's
(34:22):
them.
Right.
SPEAKER_00 (34:23):
No, that that is, yeah.
Actually, when I think about ourconversations and our
conversations with other people,our friends, I can tell, I I can
understand how you say I'm not ayes man.
Yeah, I definitely be like,y'all shouldn't be together.
Like, y'all, yeah, yeah, da dada da da da.
(34:44):
Yeah, yeah, y'all, da da da da.
So um same thing with y'all.
Yeah.
Okay.
Used to do it in the beginningof the podcast.
Yeah, you be like, I used tohate that shit, bro.
You you used to be like, um youused to preface it with
negativity.
(35:05):
So you'll say, you'll say, Ialready know what you're gonna
say.
But um, do you think you're agood boyfriend?
Like, no, no, no.
You'll say, you'll say, you'llsay like certain things, bruh.
Like, bruh, like it, it's it's acertain amount of of of no man
(35:30):
that you carry.
And which is probably the thethe reason why we still friends.
SPEAKER_01 (35:36):
Right, right.
And I I feel like what the pointthat you're getting it there is
true to whatever you was likegetting to.
Oh yeah.
Cause yeah, I I I do do that.
Um, because I think at the endof the day, it's it's about
care.
And some people I don't feel theneed to do that with.
Right.
Like you just do that.
Yeah, yeah.
I don't I don't love I'm notgonna say I was gonna say I
(35:58):
don't love you enough, but Idon't care to have go make this
back and forth thing becauseyou're gonna be you regardless.
Regardless.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And we, you know, this thisrelationship, you know, isn't
strong enough for that to youprobably look at me like I gotta
be around you, nigga.
Like yeah, yeah, and and and andmaybe I may not have the words
(36:19):
to penetrate that's light enoughfor you to carry it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You know, yeah, and I that'll betoo like I don't know the words
that besides it being direct, Idon't know how to say it to
where it can make you thinkabout it a little bit more later
on without it hurting, you knowwhat I mean?
Right, right.
Yeah, and um, so my nextquestion to you is uh do you
(36:40):
feel like you need to go totherapy?
Cause we I um from my knowledge,we both don't go to therapy.
SPEAKER_00 (36:46):
Yeah, no, I don't, I don't, um which is weird, which
is very weird for me to like sayout loud.
No.
Um maybe it's because I have Ihave people around me that I can
(37:08):
like speak to and talk to, andI'm I'm I'm at a place with
myself that I'm very vulnerable,then I'm like, bro, I can't
figure this certain shit out orwhatever.
I think it's necessary to go totherapy, but only for a certain
(37:31):
amount of time.
I think as humans, and you know,like I'm I'm on this like
scientific type of shit, likewhen you talk about your traumas
too much, you're in a habit oftalking about your trauma.
(37:54):
I don't believe that isbeneficial.
I think what's beneficial istalking about it, getting
through it, and moving on.
When you go to therapy and it'scrazy for me to even say this
because like I I I was once likea very therapy person, but like
(38:16):
I feel like it's very like likelike like like moment not
monumental, but mo momentmomental is that a word?
I don't know what you're tryingto say.
Like a moment.
Like it's very like deal withthis, move on.
Okay.
Yeah, I got you.
So get in therapy for thisthing, move on.
Because like when you do that,you're you're creating the habit
(38:39):
in your head of like constantlythinking about this thing that
traumatized you.
I've done that with myself, it'snot a good thing.
So yeah, right.
SPEAKER_01 (38:52):
Um, and I feel you, and that's my grandmother has
it, I feel like has a similartake on that as well.
Yeah.
Um the only thing that I that Islightly have a slightly
different take about is that doyou lean on your intuition?
SPEAKER_00 (39:10):
You know I do.
SPEAKER_01 (39:12):
Oh well, yeah, exactly.
Right.
It was it was a leadingquestion.
Um, so yeah, so by leaning onthat, a lot of things can be
like there's an intuition, thenyour then your trauma, like your
PTSD kicking in.
So you may have a similarexperience that make you feel
away, but you like this don'tfeel good, but it may be your
(39:33):
PTSD and not your intuition.
And when you truly don't addressthe situation, I feel like a lot
of people don't know thedifference.
You see what I'm saying?
I can see that.
Yeah, yeah.
So it's like if you never reallyfully try to dive into a
traumatic experience and healfrom it, then you like I, you
know, you lash out and be like,dang, where'd that come from?
(39:55):
It was like it was an intuition,you know, I felt this thing, and
it it was because of you, andlike, nah, that seems something
traumatic in your past.
Yeah, because I I'll be, youknow, be talking to people, and
you're like, you know, I fit Ifelt this.
This don't feel right.
And I'm like, you're cute,you're accusing me of of
(40:19):
something.
So like my intuition, I'm like,okay, I know exactly what I did,
yeah, and I didn't do whatyou're accusing me of.
Right.
So either your intuition is fullof ish, or this is PTSD.
Yeah, because yeah, like how canyou accuse me of cheating?
(40:39):
I'm using an example.
How can you accuse me ofcheating when I know I didn't
stick my dick in anybody?
Right.
Like that so I know what I did,so I know your intuition ain't
right.
So I maybe I did somethingsimilar to where the lot your
past relationship did that.
And and and now you're you'reyou're taking that traumatic
(41:02):
experience and thinking it'sthis.
But I know exactly what I did,so I know that's not either your
intuition is completely trash orit's PTSD.
SPEAKER_00 (41:10):
Facts.
No, I I definitely get whatyou're saying on that.
Yeah um the intuition is yeah,when it when it comes to stuff
like that, I can I canunderstand exactly what you're
saying.
SPEAKER_01 (41:22):
Yeah, so so as so as like I'm in a place of like,
okay, you can accuse me forwhatever, but I know what the
action that I did for realbecause I know I was there.
Of course, it's my own actions,so I know I didn't do that.
So you you're you'reautomatically telling me, you're
automatically telling me this isa PTSD.
(41:44):
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
It's like I know what I didn'tdo, so you can lean on that and
feel that way, but I I honestlyI it tells me either your
intuition trash or your PTSD.
So I was like, yeah, so I so Iknow you need that healing.
Yeah, yeah.
So I was like I thought aboutthat too.
SPEAKER_00 (42:02):
Like another, yeah, that's that's that's deep.
But um yeah, I don't know.
That's too deep for the podcast.
Is it?
I think so.
Like, like I think, well, maybeif let's just let's just say
(42:23):
they'll never see it.
Okay.
Let's just say they'll never seeit.
Nah, we've been drinking.
Okay.
Nah, yeah.
Okay, okay.
SPEAKER_01 (42:31):
Well, if we can put a pin on that, maybe notate it,
and maybe we can maybe anotherpodcast we can get your dots
together.
That's a whole nother thing.
Okay, you got an you got anotherquestion or topic for the
podcast before I guess them.
SPEAKER_00 (42:44):
Um, another one.
Let's see.
SPEAKER_01 (42:52):
Uh are you like any mini mini mo in it?
SPEAKER_00 (42:56):
Oh god.
SPEAKER_01 (42:57):
Okay, I mean, I got stuff, by the way.
Well, go ahead, big dog.
Okay, I got you.
I do.
Okay, so I've I was just talkingto you about the roller coaster
um today.
I feel like you got something.
SPEAKER_00 (43:10):
Uh uh, the the second, I don't know.
The second one is but but youhaven't you haven't dealt with
that.
I have.
Okay.
Uh, I'm gonna just read thethird one.
Didn't even read it yet.
Okay.
Fuck it.
Let's go.
Uh do soulmates truth.
We talked about soulmates.
We did.
I'm gonna go with four.
Is unconditional love realisticin human relationships, or is it
(43:34):
conditional by nature?
I mean I think uh-huh.
A little bit.
No, go ahead and cook realquick.
No, no, no, no.
SPEAKER_01 (43:42):
Because unconditional is I think that's
um now I'm about to look it up.
Unconditional love is showinglove for another person without
considering how it'll benefityou, or what you would get in
return.
Okay, okay.
I can I think that's very rare.
Okay, unconditional love fromthat's that's not how I
(44:02):
interpreted when you first saidit.
Well, I think that is showinglove for another person without
considering how it would benefityou.
Facts.
Or how you would get in return.
Facts.
I yeah, unconditional love is isreal.
Like I love my grandmother, Ilove my mom, unconditional love.
We're not talking about that.
Okay, well, I'm just saying thatmeans it exists though.
SPEAKER_00 (44:22):
Facts.
Okay, yeah, I'm saying like uhuh relationships.
Um you're in a relationship, soI don't want to like no blood
out there.
I I gave I gave let's take herout.
SPEAKER_01 (44:35):
Let's take her out and uh we let's keep her in.
So, like for for me, it's thisis just therapeutic if if if if
somebody ever feels a way aboutit, is that's a conversation
that we'll have.
Because like I at this point,I'm like, just be vulnerable and
speak your truth becausesomebody may be going through a
similar situation than you, andthat is, and I I'm not the
(44:58):
person to try like put makeup ona pig, and I talk about my
relationship enough to otherpeople, make up on the pig,
yeah, yeah, so to where it'slike bruh, hey, it is what it
is.
If maybe me speaking openly, I'mnot saying for this, but maybe
sometimes speaking openly willmake that change, and me
speaking up will, yeah, likehey, sometimes you gotta uh it
(45:21):
can it can help her her to help.
But okay, showing love foranother person without
considering how to benefit youor you're getting returned, I
can say in my relationship thatI is it's somewhat conditional.
So, and I'll speak for myselfand I won't I'll take her out,
um, take how she um what shedoes.
(45:42):
But I feel like what I do isconditional because um if I'm
doing something for you and youjust don't really care about it,
then or how how I interpret asyou don't care.
Um and you may, and I'm I'msaying it, I'm saying it wrong,
(46:06):
um you may care about the thingthat I do for you, or you may
ask me to do this thing, but ifit's not um, if you're not
showing me the love that I thatI should feel, then it makes me
not want to do the thinganymore.
So for I'm gonna use acompletely separate example.
If you tell me to take out thetrash, and it's not my trash, we
(46:30):
don't live together, um, and mytra the trash is 500 yards away.
And I that's not my trash.
I'm taking out your trashbecause you asked me to, and I
start taking out your trashcommonly, and you just don't
care.
It makes me not want to take outthe trash anymore.
Okay, yeah, it's like you don'tappreciate the thing, the act.
(46:52):
So why why would I continue todo it?
And that's how I feel aboutcertain things.
Now that's very small incomparison to other things, but
yeah, yeah, but it's like, okay,I know you want me to do this
thing, and actually you need itneeds to be done.
Or say if the trash is so heavythat you can't take it out
(47:14):
yourself, then you shouldappreciate me being here for to
be able to do this thing, right?
So, um, and now I'll um I'll sayum I'll add on to it a little
bit.
Because I talked about this tomy mom about love letters, and I
(47:34):
maybe mentioned love letters toyou.
Or have I ever talked about loveletters?
No.
Okay.
How do you feel about loveletters?
Because this reminds me of maybeyou did.
Um I think we have.
I think we have because I talkedabout um love letters.
SPEAKER_00 (47:50):
It just ain't in like get up to the par that I
would love for it to be.
SPEAKER_01 (47:56):
Hey, you're so I can write this love letter telling
you how much you mean to me andhow much important you are in my
life and how life-changing.
If but it don't if I say that,if I say that to you, but
ultimately like like dang, thissounds like I'm gold.
But if you're not treating melike gold, then it's it's
(48:19):
exactly what the love letter isexactly what it is.
It's a love, it's it's it'swords on a sheet of paper.
SPEAKER_00 (48:25):
Words on a sheet of paper.
SPEAKER_01 (48:27):
Yeah, so and that's kind of where I land with it.
It's like, okay, oh, that feelsgreat, that sounds good, but if
I'm coming home and you're mad,you're upset, and it's like you
can miss me if I'm here gone,then that love letter doesn't
mean that much to me becauseyou're not honoring the words
that you're saying.
(48:48):
You know what I mean?
Because if if if I've truly feelabout this, like like dang, I
love my mom.
But but if I ain't if I ain'tsaying like yeah, like you're
cussing my mom out, you knowwhat I mean?
Yeah, yeah.
I cussing my mom like you suck,you always been terrible,
mother.
I never appreciate what youdone.
You you didn't do much for me.
SPEAKER_00 (49:06):
Upload a video.
I love my mom.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (49:09):
Yeah, then it's is that that letter doesn't mean
much.
Facts.
Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (49:15):
No, that that has happened with me a few times.
Uh and I definitely felt that.
It was just like, I don't know.
I'm a lover boy, like like asyou know, but like I I love
love, I love the whole thing.
And like, so my my letters behidden.
My letters be like very on pointto who you are as a person.
(49:37):
And when I be getting lettersback, some of them letters just
be like, mmm, you ain't youain't doing that.
Like you ain't really like I Ithink I think you're inspired,
like from what I've done.
My letters.
I think you're inspired from myletters versus like your letters
(50:00):
actually meaning certain things.
But um yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (50:05):
So I would say that so do you feel like it's like,
hey, you're just saying thatbecause I've written you one and
you feel the obligation to writeme one back, even though you
don't really mean it for real.
SPEAKER_00 (50:14):
Sometimes, yeah.
I gotcha.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
They'll definitely be like,it'll definitely be that.
It'll definitely be.
I and now that I'm thinkingabout it, like some of them are
that.
It's like, nah, let me write himsomething because he definitely
changed my day that day, likemonths or years ago or whatever.
(50:35):
Yeah.
So let me just say something.
SPEAKER_01 (50:38):
But like I'm reading him like because sometimes I
want that, you know, like honey,I'm home and I'm greeted with
love and a kiss, like you missme.
Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (50:47):
But if I'm going, if I'm coming home and you rolling
your eyes, like I still rememberfor to this day, I had a girl,
um um um and I went to work andI came, I got off work and I
came to the crib, and she justhad a note there.
(51:09):
It was like, I'm so proud ofyou, or something something like
that.
And the crib was cleaned up, youknow what I'm saying?
Like the the you know, likepeople, men when we have women
and um they clean the house andd just do whatever, sometimes
like we we may overlook certainthings that they do.
(51:34):
But like the clean was I mean,uh the crib was clean, the
everything was like a differentvibe as soon as I came back
home.
And it was very like spick andspan.
And um there was a note.
There was a note right there,and it was like on the desk, and
(51:55):
as soon as I sat down, and thenshe was cooking food, and then
she was about to come in as soonas I was about to come uh uh or
sit down, really, like from thecrib, and in the note it was
just like great job today, da dada and then it was salmon,
broccoli, right?
It was it was normal, it wasn'tlike anything crazy, and it was
just like a plate there, and itwas like bruh.
(52:18):
I remember that too this day,because it was like being
appreciated, bruh, like thatthat that shit is so monumental
for uh uh men, you know, evensimply like thank you for doing
(52:43):
whatever, you know what I'msaying?
Like that shit, it really putsyou in a different mindset of
what you're doing it for.
You know, it's not like umyou're doing everything for
yourself, but like yeah, it's toto to to come to come home and
be appreciated.
(53:05):
That shit makes you want to toclock back in tomorrow.
SPEAKER_01 (53:11):
No, I I totally agree.
Yeah.
Um because and that is because Ilive by a positive affirmation.
Uh-huh.
Like that that's the feel.
Yeah, it's like you did greattoday.
Yeah, and and it it's it's alot.
And I feel that for feel thatlike, man, I truly appreciate
(53:33):
you.
Like, you know, you saved meduring this time, you know, or
whatever.
It doesn't have to be thatstrong, but it could be
something along those lines.
Like, yeah, bruh, like that youcame in so clutch.
Like, I can only imagine whenthe when people do podcasting be
like, bruh, I was about to killmyself, and then you actually
came through.
That makes you want to keepgoing.
That's fuel, bruh.
SPEAKER_00 (53:54):
Like people say that about my videos, yeah, yeah,
exactly.
Italy, yeah.
Like, hey, bro, I don't know ifyou understand, but like your
videos are medicine.
Yeah, yeah.
And I'm like, wow, like this islike you know, you know me.
Like as a side job, like it'slike a something that's funny as
fuck, and then I just do it, youknow.
(54:15):
I mean, I'm clearly likededicated, but but like to be
dedicated to something and to Iknow it's bigger than me.
Again, like I'm Steven in reallife.
That's race or silly, that's notme, you know what I'm saying?
And um to get messages and belike, bro, like you you got me
(54:39):
out of depression, bro.
You you da da da from women.
Hey, this was so funny.
I was going through somethingand like you really brightened
up my day.
Well, throw me some cooch.
Throw me some pussy.
SPEAKER_01 (54:53):
No, I'm just I'm just being funny.
SPEAKER_00 (54:54):
No, I'm being funny too.
Yeah, yeah.
Um, that's too much.
SPEAKER_01 (54:57):
But but no, but that's extra added uh fuel.
Um that keeps you going.
Yeah.
Wow.
SPEAKER_00 (55:03):
Yeah, and you you appreciate me.
Yeah, you appreciate the thingsI'm doing what like I I'm I'm
I'm better showing up tomorrownow.
Exactly exactly.
Yeah, same with a man.
Like the the the the when I hada relationship and I I had a
woman and you know coming homeand seeing her, like feeling
safe, that's the best thing fora man.
(55:28):
Come seeing your girl and youknow she feels safe.
Ooh, that's a different type ofthing.
SPEAKER_01 (55:34):
That's actually elaborate on that more.
What you mean feel safe?
SPEAKER_00 (55:37):
When she feels uh, when she feels safe, we got
about 10 minutes.
Yeah, on my on my okay, we canwe can wrap it up here.
Uh but um but when a woman feelssafe, man, that's truly who she
is.
That that's that inner child.
That's Kaya for me.
Like that's like those who don'tknow, like I have a daughter
(55:59):
named Kaya, and um when a girlfeels safe and she can turn her
brain off, that's that'sliterally who she is, like as a
person.
And like if she can just bethat, that's the best thing for
a man.
(56:20):
You know, like and to be honest,you have to be that nigga
though.
You have to, you have to, youknow, provide the experience of
like you said, like, you know,when you go out, da-da-da, boom,
you pay the bill, whatever.
But to your girl, bruh, likethat is the best thing that they
can experience, right?
Just like just being safe andjust being like taken care of
(56:45):
and all that, that is the hype,I feel like.
That is the best version of thatwoman that you're gonna see.
SPEAKER_02 (56:54):
Okay, yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (56:55):
Like when she's safe, oh, you're gonna get exact
you're gonna get exactly whatyou seek from her from the first
time you've seen her.
And and that's when the billspass due.
Okay, okay, I got you.
I got you.
SPEAKER_01 (57:06):
So not it not necessarily safe from it's also
not just including safe andprotection.
Like, I feel safe or protected.
It's more it's more of likefinancially safe.
No, both of them.
Oh, yeah, okay, I got you.
I got you.
SPEAKER_00 (57:19):
Yeah, like when they feel safe and protected, you
know, yeah, they are literallythat soft girl.
Just like, uh daddy, I love you.
Like that girl, you know whatI'm saying?
But uh, you know, the billspassed, dude, it's like nigga.
Yeah, then it turned to that.
(57:41):
Uh, but but you know, women arethey best when men are their
best.
SPEAKER_01 (57:48):
Understood.
I think that was a good closing.
That was a great closing.
Yeah.
All right.
Well, this is two for theculture.
We'll be back.
We'll be back.
Yes, sir.
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