Temptation Island and Reality TV: Why Relationships Fail for Entertainment

We explore the messy drama of reality dating shows like Temptation Island and discuss the surprising emotional toll breakups take on men versus women.

• Weekend recap featuring pedicure experiences and restaurant reviews
• Detailed breakdown of Netflix's Temptation Island and why relationships fail on TV
• Discussion about "sliding into DMs" as the modern approach to dating
• Personal stories of devastating heartbreak and emotional recovery
• Analysis of how emotional intelligence impacts relationship success
• Thoughts on whether men or women handle breakups more difficultly
• Conversation about political issues affecting men that aren't widely discussed
• Reflections on how leadership requires emotional control in relationships

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
What's up?
We are back with anotherepisode of Two for the Culture
how you feeling.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
I feel good, man, I feel good.
What's today, monday?

Speaker 1 (00:10):
This today is Monday the 17th 17th Okay, cool, All
right cool.
Yes, sir, and I'm JustinDevante.

Speaker 2 (00:17):
I'm Stephen Ray.

Speaker 1 (00:18):
And we are back.
How's your weekend?

Speaker 2 (00:21):
Weekend was good, man .
A lot of work, a lot of workdone.
I'm starting a new thing withRay so City.
I'm going harder this year.
Last year I did a couplehundred videos over the course
of the year.
Okay, and I'm going to do whatCountry Wayne said.

(00:41):
He was like three videos a day,day, which for me is a little
different, but uh, yeah.
So I scripted for all those andthen today I filmed the first
21.
That's the first week.
So oh, wow yeah, so it's gonnahave to be like that every week
for me oh, yeah, yeah, so myplant huh, how many hours is

(01:02):
that?
Hours I've actually beendocumenting it so um the the
scripting process for all 21 wasabout five hours in like 45
minutes.
Okay, okay and then the filmingwas actually two hours, two and
a half hours.

Speaker 1 (01:17):
Oh, okay.

Speaker 2 (01:18):
So the meat of it, of course, is the editing but um,
yeah, yeah, I'm just starting it, it getting a roll on it, and
I'm gonna do it again anotherday this week so I could at
least be two weeks up.
So I'm not like scrambling andyeah, yeah, uh, but yeah, that
was that was, that was myweekend.
How about yours?

Speaker 1 (01:36):
uh, it was cool, yeah , so, uh, of course you know I'm
working um during the weekend alot, but the weekend we had a
little time off, me and mygirlfriend, so we spent that
together.

Speaker 2 (01:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:49):
And we got some pedicures.

Speaker 2 (01:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:52):
Yeah, from a place that was cool.
Now they got the little mimosasand stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:59):
Wine and water or whatever.

Speaker 2 (02:01):
I was going to ask you did you have them hoes?
What's it called with the, withthe gel over it, or?

Speaker 1 (02:08):
something, uh, no, no , they did like a natural buff
oh, okay on the feet oh, forreal, yeah yeah, what's cool
they didn't do, they didn't likego crazy with it.
You know, it's more of a yeah,like a feel-good experience,
more anything else.
It's not nothing I would doLike.
I'll probably do like onceevery couple of years or once a

(02:29):
year or something like that.
Okay, yeah, yeah, I'd never feltthe need to do it.
It's just like something likemore of a bonding experience,
more than anything.
You know there's chatting it upwith my girlfriend or whatever.

Speaker 2 (02:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:42):
They were both like American eyes.
It's not like you know.
They had the accent or whatever.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
Oh, okay, that was racist.

Speaker 1 (02:50):
That was definitely racist.
Not really, because it's likeVietnamese monopoly dominant.

Speaker 2 (02:57):
Okay, okay, okay.

Speaker 1 (02:58):
Yeah, so if people who know who get their feet and
nails done that it's Vietnamesedominated and they have heavy
accents Because the people whodid our toes wasn't from here.
They wasn't born here, right,but they went to high school
here.

Speaker 2 (03:15):
Okay, okay, okay.
So they grew up.

Speaker 1 (03:17):
Yeah, so I'm just saying it's not a language
barrier.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:21):
I don't even think the sound is racist.
You just said like we just gotour feet and toes done, but they
actually didn't have an accent.

Speaker 1 (03:29):
Yeah, they didn't have an accent.
Yeah, because if you know, youknow, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (03:34):
I know, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:35):
So I'm just saying it wasn't really a language when I
said they was talking,communicating and just having a
natural conversation.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
That's what.

Speaker 1 (03:42):
I mean Like yeah, but it wasn't like all right, this
laying bears so so heavy.
Why even discuss, you know,having a conversation?

Speaker 2 (03:50):
Oh, okay.

Speaker 1 (03:51):
Yeah, so that's kind of what I was saying.

Speaker 2 (03:53):
See, I didn't feel uncomfortable Like they were.

Speaker 1 (03:55):
I never said we felt uncomfortable, but I'm just
saying enough to have a, andwhat's going on?

Speaker 2 (04:01):
you know with everybody exactly, yeah, I got
you.

Speaker 1 (04:06):
So what?
The girl who's doing my feet?
She went to high school here,she had her own life story,
whatever, and then the guy shootthat was doing her feet was it
was a gay Asian dude no it wascool.
You know, live locally and youknow, so you know they had
everything that was Referringwhat we should Eat out and try

(04:29):
and different things like that.
Yeah, so that was cool.
Then we had.
So we first went to this oneplace that my girlfriend Wanted
to try.
I wanted to try too.
I'm not going to name the place, it was black owned, but uh,
what's it called?
Niggas?
I'm not gonna name the place,it was black owned, but uh,
what's it called niggas?

Speaker 2 (04:46):
no, no, no, I'm not related because it wasn't a good
experience.
Oh, okay, yeah, so we went.
Why what was so?

Speaker 1 (04:54):
so did they have accents so I, you too, buddy,
nah, uh, yeah.
So what I first heard about it,it was because, um, I was
picking up a lady who workedthere, and you know she was.
She was talking about herexperience.
She had that day and how youknow, they ran out of food and
she was, um, you know, somebodywas upset, ready to like jack

(05:19):
with her and she was tellingabout it, you know, and just
over the phone, like I forgotwhat they ran out of, I felt
like it was Oxtails, but itprobably wasn't that and yeah,
so she was very upset andargumentative, so you know.
So I'm, you know, still wantingto give it a chance.
So my girlfriend heard about itbecause, you know, through her

(05:40):
own people, you know like it'sjust known to maybe have a long
wait and you know you can, theydo run out of things.
So we both came in with thatopen mind.
Like hey, people are saying hey, they ran out of food.
You know, the food's great ohuh-huh yeah yeah, sometimes it's
kind of hit or miss if you canhave the item that shows on the
menu.

Speaker 2 (06:00):
Right, okay, damn right, okay, so, damn.
So.
That was the all.
That's a back review before youeven walk in.

Speaker 1 (06:05):
Exactly yeah, they might have so, yeah, so we get
there.
Um, and then you know, take ourorder.
Well, one first sign theydidn't have the alcohol that you
wanted, which was like, uh,like either champagne or tequila
, tequila, and so they didn'thave tequila, which is like a

(06:26):
natural alcohol they didn't havetequila period.
Yeah, exactly, oh not even theher brand right in general okay
they got to do an alcohol run um, so they didn't have that,
which was like okay, we'll live,you know.
So we got waters.
And then you know, we order ourfood.
I may I forgot what I had.

(06:48):
All right, I maybe did.
I can't remember what I, what Idid.
So I ordered, she orders, andthen, about an hour into our
wait, they come in and say theowner comes in and says hey, you
know, my staff half-assed andwe're no longer serving brunch.

Speaker 2 (07:08):
An hour later.

Speaker 1 (07:09):
Yes, an hour later, yeah.

Speaker 2 (07:12):
And y'all not even drinking.

Speaker 1 (07:13):
We're drinking water.

Speaker 2 (07:15):
Damn.

Speaker 1 (07:15):
Yeah, he's like you know, take my number down and
you know I'll comp your mealNext time.
You won't have to pay anything.
You'll have a free meal on us.
I'll comp your meal Next time,you won't have to pay anything.
You'll have a free meal on this.
So for me, I know that he's anew business owner People who do
the Instagram, catering andthings like that.
Now they're transitioning tohaving an actual brick and

(07:38):
mortar building, uh-huh, and nowyou're managing a staff.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (07:42):
Now you got your own expenses, things that you don't
a staff.

Speaker 1 (07:44):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, now you got your own
expenses, things that you don'tcalculate in your mind.
It's a lot.

Speaker 2 (07:51):
How new are they?

Speaker 1 (07:57):
I would be stretching to say they're six months in.
Oh my God, I don't know thoughhe may be longer, but the
establishment how it's ran don'tknow, though he they.
He may be longer, but theestablishment how it's ran is
clearly new.

Speaker 2 (08:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (08:08):
Yeah, yeah, there's.
There's no question about it,because I heard about that
situation months ago.
You know about them notordering getting the food,
Correct.

Speaker 2 (08:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (08:17):
And um, perfect, and so, and so when we get there and
we have that experience, it'slike okay, that's kind of what I
expected.
He's a young dude trying to getthings correct.
I'm not even mad, yeah.
Yeah, it's just kind of, butshe is obviously yeah.

(08:38):
So we leave this to Asma.
I took his number down.
I'm probably not going to usethe complimentary mail because
it's just not what I do or evencare about.
Yeah, um, but you know it's apricey meal.
We didn't, of course.
We didn't pay for it because wedidn't get it right um so then
we went to noir or noryou know, I are yeah, noir, yeah

(09:01):
, yeah, so so everybody tells me, you know, um, that the food's
great there and you know youhave a good time.
I've never heard anybody saythat the food was bad, right, so
I'm thinking it's gonna beoverhyped.
Another black owned restaurant.
Okay, it's, it's both of the.
Well noir is more and I'mprobably saying the name wrong.
It's more of a fine diningexperience.

(09:21):
It sounds like it in the otherspot, but they both have
comparative prices.
Maybe Well Noir is more and I'mprobably saying the name wrong
is more of a fine diningexperience.

Speaker 2 (09:25):
It sounds like it In the other spot, but they both
have comparative prices.

Speaker 1 (09:29):
Maybe Noir is maybe or Noir is a tad bit more
expensive, like if the salmon atthe other place was $30, this
one's going to be $40.
I'm just naming the price.
So they're like you know,comparable, but the other ones,
noir's going to be a little bitmore, so I get there.
Oh, keep in mind that we had areservation already at Nora, but

(09:53):
she canceled it because wewalked into the other place.
Yeah, so she tried to scrambleto get reservations.
It's like, hey, you know it'sbusy, you know the bar may have
seats at the bar, but it's notlike we can save your seat at
the bar.
It's comfort, you know firstcome, first serve, so we get
there.
They luckily have seats at thebar for us.

(10:15):
We sit, take our food, wait alittle bit and then our food
comes out.
I get the lamb chops, potatoesand eggs.

Speaker 2 (10:29):
It's brunch.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,so, okay, so it's still what?

Speaker 1 (10:31):
so it's still brunch time.
Yeah, it's.
Uh.
It's like, because we got the,we had reservations at the nail
shop, is what I'm calling it.
Um, at maybe 11, uh-huh yeahyeah, so brunch is gonna be
until maybe three or four right,right, I was just going off of
the other place.

Speaker 2 (10:50):
How you said that the the staff you know he was he
didn't have.
He was understaffed yeah andwe're not doing brunch anymore.

Speaker 1 (10:58):
So I'm not gonna say he was understaffed.
I'm saying that they didn't doa great job at cooking whatever
there's preparing so hold on, sohe said.
He basically said my staffsucks yes oh my god he said
pretty much that's.

Speaker 2 (11:14):
I thought he was saying like bro, I'm
understaffed.

Speaker 1 (11:16):
No, he said like yeah yeah, it wasn't whipping up
whatever.
Okay, well, okay, okay.
So yeah, I was going off of thetime frame.

Speaker 2 (11:23):
I thought that it was like it wasn't whipping up
whatever.
Okay, well, okay, okay.
So yeah, I was going off of thetime frame.
I thought that it was like 3already.

Speaker 1 (11:29):
Yeah, we probably got there at 1230 and then waited
till 130.
I was watching the gamechilling.
It was taking long for the foodto come out, but it's kind of
you know what I expected.

Speaker 2 (11:39):
Right.

Speaker 1 (11:40):
Noir ran slightly.

Speaker 2 (11:43):
I think it's Noir.

Speaker 1 (11:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (11:48):
Yeah right, nor rent slightly.
I think it's noir.

Speaker 1 (11:49):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, people say different but who
knows, I was just trying to saveyou from doing it for another
hour.

Speaker 2 (11:52):
Yeah, I think I'm pretty sure yeah, I'm pretty
sure I could be wrong yeah, yeah, but do you know?

Speaker 1 (11:58):
yeah, no, I are yeah, there's a.

Speaker 2 (12:00):
Uh, there is a certain type of photography.
It's called noir, okay, andit's spelled like that N-O-I-R.

Speaker 1 (12:08):
Yes, okay.

Speaker 2 (12:10):
So I just I would assume that it's called noir.

Speaker 1 (12:13):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2 (12:14):
And it gives off that feel, that stylish feel.

Speaker 1 (12:17):
The good establishment is what I would
say, the establishedestablishment looking ass.

Speaker 2 (12:22):
Right.

Speaker 1 (12:25):
Yeah, yeah, so the place we had lamb chops, I had
potatoes, I had some fruit and Ialso had a bougie margarita or
a bougie sangria.

Speaker 2 (12:33):
Oh, right, right right.

Speaker 1 (12:34):
That was hitting.
The bougie sangria was hitting.
My girlfriend had the samedrink as me as well as she.
Her meal was like salmon stuffwith grits okay and yeah, and
fruit on the side, or somethinglike that.
When, so like when I had theeggs with the potatoes and eggs,
I took one bite of potatoes andinstantly got happy yeah like

(12:59):
the whole mood changed yeah it'sso weird like I mean I'm happy
now you.
At first I was like yeah, thisis going to be an overhyped
experience.

Speaker 2 (13:08):
Did they cop your meal too?

Speaker 1 (13:10):
No, no, no, no.

Speaker 2 (13:12):
You damn near a brand ambassador right now, right.

Speaker 1 (13:16):
I was like, wow, this is actually the best cheese and
eggs I've ever had in my life.
I don't even get it how theymade it that well, my food was
great, her food was great, andthen we had a great experience
right, this sounds good.

Speaker 2 (13:34):
Yeah, yeah, it sounds like I need to.
Yeah, yeah, no, like now.

Speaker 1 (13:37):
Now that it's like, okay, it's no longer overhyped,
it is very worth the the priceoh, yeah, it is great, yeah,
yeah, and it's great to seebecause you know it's
comparative to a fine diningexperience.

Speaker 2 (13:49):
Don't get me wrong.

Speaker 1 (13:49):
But it's also Black-owned, so I just want to
get you.
So it's not no, no, I'm justsaying that some people like to
think that just becauseBlack-owned like bro, you should
be charging a little less.
Uh-huh yeah right, right andthat's why I say it like that.
But I highly recommend, woulddefinitely go again.
The guy who owns it Also owns aclub called Links.

(14:14):
I haven't been in, I think I'veheard of it.
I've did trips there severaltimes.

Speaker 2 (14:20):
Did you take me there ?
Did you take me there one time?

Speaker 1 (14:23):
No, I've never took you there, I've never been
inside.

Speaker 2 (14:26):
You did pick up, sir, but I'm familiar.
Did you take me there?
Huh, did you take me there one?

Speaker 1 (14:28):
time.
No, I never took you there,I've never been inside.
Oh shit, you did pick up, sir.
Okay, okay, yeah, so, but I'mfamiliar, but hey, I would say
9.3 out of 10.

Speaker 2 (14:36):
Whoa yeah yeah, whoa yeah yeah.

Speaker 1 (14:38):
Because I went to Church and Union last time,
which was a good experience, Iwhich was a good experience.
I liked my burger, I liked alot of those things, but that
place was so much better.

Speaker 2 (14:44):
Yeah, yeah, not even a question.
Did they have somebody playinga piano in there, or?

Speaker 1 (14:48):
something.
Uh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
I wouldn't even say that.
Yeah, it wasn't like that.
It was very busy inside, though, for so it was raining in the
A's so it was a lot of peoplethere.
So we get back here.
Since it was raining, I waslike I'm not going to drive

(15:09):
right now, so we get in there.
And so we decided to turn on aTV show, a new Netflix series
called Reality TV, calledTemptation Island.
Have you heard of?

Speaker 2 (15:21):
it no.

Speaker 1 (15:23):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (15:24):
What is it on Hulu Netflix?
It's called Temptation Island,have you?

Speaker 1 (15:26):
heard of it.
No, okay.
What is it on Hulu Netflix?
It's called Temptation Island.

Speaker 2 (15:30):
I'm sure I can just imagine where this is going.
Okay.

Speaker 1 (15:35):
So let me set it up for you.
So, couples go on TemptationIsland.
First there's four couples, sofour girls's four couples.
So four girls, four guys, right?
So then they.
So what the show is trying todo is tempt the other couples

(15:59):
into doing something to showtheir loyalty.
So there's 12 men, 12 women allthere are single women trying
to pursue the, the couples intheir relationship how many
people are here?

Speaker 2 (16:16):
hello, there's 12, means 12 women this.

Speaker 1 (16:18):
For this there's four couples, so eight people okay
or women for men yes so then, sothey're together yes, then
eight out of the so so, so.
So how it happens is then thecup, then the couples come, are
together, and then they bringout 12 women, 12 men.
The couples are going toseparate the 12 women go with

(16:43):
the four men and the 12 men gowith the four women, and they're
all on separate islands yeah,so you can see how messy this
shit is absolutely yeah,absolutely why any woman would
ever decide to think that thatwas a good idea to bring their
men there is is beyond me.

Speaker 2 (17:02):
I was thinking the opposite.
Why, oh well shit, yeah, both,yeah like.

Speaker 1 (17:08):
Right, I can see, see .
So this is where the psychologygame comes along, because you
know you're on TV.
It's Netflix.

Speaker 2 (17:19):
Absolutely.

Speaker 1 (17:20):
So women are going to be less promiscuous than they
would be if it was behind closeddoors.

Speaker 2 (17:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (17:29):
Men are going to be men, yeah.
So, the one dude, the one blackdude that was on the show.

Speaker 2 (17:39):
One.

Speaker 1 (17:41):
No, excuse me, the one black dude of the couples.
Right he was.
No, no, excuse me, the oneblack dude of the couples.
Right, so there's three,there's three white men, one
black dude, one black girl andthree white girl and one maybe
she's asian or something.
Yeah, she's something,something.
Yeah, yeah, she's not white,though, or all the way.
Um, so the one, the one blackdude, he's like bro, I like,

(18:05):
he's like, I like threesomes,you know that's how he?
starts out the show.
I'm highly sexual.
I like threesomes.
My girl won't let me havethreesomes.

Speaker 2 (18:13):
You know, as soon as he gets to the island.

Speaker 1 (18:15):
But that's before.
This is like during theinterview.

Speaker 2 (18:18):
Oh the interview, yo what's up, I'm.

Speaker 1 (18:20):
Da, da, da da da.
I like threesomes, of course itdidn't go like that, so I'm I
was like all right, bruh him,yeah, yeah, yeah I was like
because after I played a gamewith my girlfriend, who you
think is gonna cheat, right, Ilike none of them gonna make it,
yeah, it's in my head.
I was like none of them arereally gonna make it out the

(18:41):
show.
All of them want to cheat andshe's like you should have faith
.
Blah, blah, blah.
And I'm like, bro if, because Ithought in my head that the 12
girls are designed for them totempt, Right, but the 12 girls
are actually there, being single, trying to find a man, Uh-huh,
and trying to find their man,which is weird.

(19:04):
So I was like I thought theywas like paid to, like hey, you
got to tempt them to fall.
You know what I mean.
But they was actually.
No, I'm actually pursuing lovetoo.

Speaker 2 (19:12):
So I'm going to take somebody's man.

Speaker 1 (19:14):
Yes, and the 12 men?
Is I'm going to take somebody?

Speaker 2 (19:17):
I'm going to take somebody's girl.

Speaker 1 (19:19):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2 (19:21):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (19:21):
Yeah, perfect, perfect, yeah, exactly, okay,
yeah, um perfect, perfect,little, uh, yeah, concoction so
so it's it's a great showbecause it is messy as hell.
I'm good, and they set it upevery step of the way to be
messy.
Yeah, so a part of of how theymake it messy is because they're
all on the island and they havewhat's called bonfires right so

(19:45):
you so.
They each show the person a clipof what's going on in their
part of the island first.
So any messy moment you talkingabout her man like, one person
was like why?
Why, dear god?
Why did?
Did the universe send me thispiece of shit, man?
She?

Speaker 2 (20:09):
said that yes To herself.

Speaker 1 (20:11):
She said that to another guy.

Speaker 2 (20:16):
Yeah, yeah yeah, she said it to another guy.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, and it wasrecorded.

Speaker 1 (20:19):
Another girl says my man has bitch tendencies Shit.
Another girl says my man hasbitch tendencies, yeah, yeah.
So keep in mind.

Speaker 2 (20:29):
They're watching that on the other side.

Speaker 1 (20:31):
So that's not the first bonfire, by the way, I'm
just not remembering the firstone.

Speaker 2 (20:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (20:36):
But it was all set up to like damn, this is what
you're saying, this is how youreally feel.
Bet, this was the first bonfire, so they was already having
like establishing connectionsbecause all of the women of
course there's beauties behindthe eye of the beholder, but all
the women are bad to somebodyand definitely beautiful, yeah,

(20:58):
so you're gonna out of the 12women.
You're gonna find what you likein there right, that's not even
a question.
So um long story long.

Speaker 2 (21:08):
So it's so pretty much what episode did you get to
?

Speaker 1 (21:12):
I'm close to the end okay do you want me to spoil it?

Speaker 2 (21:16):
um, yes, okay, okay, okay yeah, so I'm with.

Speaker 1 (21:20):
So the black dude, so all four of them.
In my eyes they kind of all butone cheated Right Straight up
One.
The only reason they spared hisass.

Speaker 2 (21:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (21:35):
The only reason he didn't cheat is because the girl
her name was Alex, she wasn'tfeeling him Damn, she was
feeling the black dude.
The girl her name was Alex, shewasn't feeling him Damn, she
was feeling the black dude.
And she wound up having athreesome with the black dude
with another chick Yep, yeah,yeah, yeah.
And so she spared him Becausehe was like hey, I'll take a

(21:57):
shot of this, margarita, if youkiss me.
She said I don't even liketequila.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeahquila,yeah, yeah yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (22:05):
Meanwhile in her room was a big ass bottle of tequila
.

Speaker 1 (22:09):
She's like bruh, I ain't really feeling this bad
like yeah so that's only reasonwhy is because she kind of
spared his relationship and shedidn't really show the really
unflattering clips of him, Ifeel like.
So the show spared him and shespared him yeah uh.
But but the black dude he cameout, he, you know, he uh, he

(22:31):
gets his threesome whatevercomes out the bathroom.
He's like damn, it's burningtime.
Keep in mind, they're gonnashow the clips of this happening
to his girl yeah yeah, yeah.
And then he comes in.
He comes in like you know, youhave your one-on, your your the,
the follow-up after whathappened to yourself with all
the cameras talking about theincident.

(22:52):
He's like I just came out ofthe threesome.

Speaker 2 (22:56):
I don't have no regrets.

Speaker 1 (23:01):
You know, honesty is the best policy.

Speaker 2 (23:04):
Yeah, yeah yeah, you know, honesty is the best policy
, yeah, yeah, yeah, doesn't shewant honesty, yeah.
Damn yeah, would you go on ashow like that?

Speaker 1 (23:13):
if you had a girl, that's what I was going to ask
you.
Uh-huh, but long story short,the part is she still.
You can tell she still wantsher man yeah.

Speaker 2 (23:23):
Yeah, yeah, yeah who, the black dude, the still she's
, you can tell she still wantsher man.

Speaker 1 (23:25):
yeah, yeah, who the black girl who saw him.
Yeah, she.
She was like if this, if thiswas reality, this would never
happen.
He's only doing this becauseyour island is not by me girl,
it already happened, yeah yeah,yeah.
And then the other two whitegirls it was his idea.

Speaker 2 (23:38):
He's like hey, they got a show on the other two
white girls broke up with theirman.
Uh-huh.

Speaker 1 (23:42):
Yeah, because you also get a tablet to um during
uh later on in the episode torecord yourself for 30 seconds
saying hey, I still want to bewith you.
Be speaking to you, yeah, yeah,and you can either show, you can
either take record that 30seconds or, uh, not send them

(24:03):
anything at all.
Yeah, so two of the guys didn'tget anything at all and of
course that hurt, damn, yeah,yeah, yeah and so, but they
would send recordings and, likeyou know, kind of mixed
messaging a little bit, um.
But then the one couple who,the dude that didn't cheat, they

(24:23):
they had.
They're like I'm proud of you,you're the only one that you
know, stay strong in it.
And then he's like I love you,I miss you.
This makes you want us to betogether.
Uh-huh, yeah, yeah.
And then he, he's like you know, you're the only one I want.
This is all I wanted.
Proof you, my number one.
Blah, blah, blah.
So they got stronger in it.
Only one couple got strongerstronger.

Speaker 2 (24:42):
in that show the ratio sounds right, the black
woman.

Speaker 1 (24:45):
She in denial Pretty much.
And then two, they broke up andnow they're pursuing the other
guys in the house.

Speaker 2 (24:53):
Right.

Speaker 1 (24:55):
That is wild.

Speaker 2 (24:57):
That's wilder than any other Netflix show that I've
seen.

Speaker 1 (25:03):
It's extremely wild because it's messy.
Because, like, this is howmessy they are.
So not only do they have thebonfire where they show clips
after days of them having sexwith other people, Right, they
also they have this tent towhere there's like hey, you can
go inside the tent and we can'tfilm you, we just hear the sound

(25:24):
.
So of course they film yougoing into the tent.
So if you go into the tent, theother house gets a blaring
signal.
It's like and it turns red.

Speaker 2 (25:40):
As soon as they enter , as soon as they enter.

Speaker 1 (25:42):
So both houses get it .
If a woman goes in there withanother guy, then they hear it
on the other house.
If another, if another uh mangoes in with one of those women,
they hear on each side sothey're like they don't know
what happened.

Speaker 2 (25:55):
They don't quiet as fuck.
Huh, they're being quiet asfuck, not saying anything what?

Speaker 1 (26:00):
no, they're going inside the tent and it alerts
the other, the other island.
So so, yeah, so it's not beingquiet because you, the only
thing you're trying to do is notsee them.
Hey, I'm trying to fuck in thistent or I'm trying to kiss in
this tent yeah but it's going toalert, but they don't know who
who's going inside the tent.
They just know that somebodywent inside the tent right, yeah

(26:21):
, yeah, okay.

Speaker 2 (26:22):
So they just know somebody went in, but you just
said that that sound was beingrecorded no sound inside the
tent is recorded can they hearthat?

Speaker 1 (26:31):
no, no not until you get to the bonfire, you can see
who went inside the tips, or ifthey're moaning or if they're
lip smacking or whatever, okay,yeah, so you can be quiet, but
you're.
You're also having sex insidethe tent, so you may be moaning.
Or they got hella audio a boommic so you can be quiet.
But you're also having sexinside a tent, so you may be
moaning.
Or they got hella audio a boommic so you can hear like does
this feel good.
You know what I mean.

(26:51):
Yeah, yeah, and they'remouthing it out in the subtitles
Absolutely, yeah, yeah, yeah,exactly.
So that's how messy it is.
So people like this one, theblack girl, this is before he
has a threesome.
This one, um, the black girl,this is before he has a
threesome.
He didn't go inside the tent,but she was crying, thinking
like I hope it's not him.

Speaker 2 (27:11):
Meanwhile he's having a whole threesome outside of
the tent, so it don't even.
Oh, yeah, okay, he's outside,for real, for real right right,
he don't care, he has no regrets.

Speaker 1 (27:19):
Yeah, no regrets that is.

Speaker 2 (27:23):
That's wild.
Yeah, I'm not.
I'm not really surprised.
I'm not really surprised.
They have a lot of differentshows.
I felt like we're leading up tothat.
I think that's the thanos ofall of the shows that they had
before yeah, uh, no, yeah I waslike why somebody would do this
to to show loyalty.

Speaker 1 (27:44):
That's a hell of a.
That's a hard way to play agame Because you're with
beautiful women for several days.
Like I know, they've at leastbeen for 10 days.

Speaker 2 (27:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (27:56):
And you're going on.
Y'all got scheduled dates witheach other.
You can pick somebody you gotto go on a date with.
You're taking shots at thehouse, drunk as hell.
I couldn't get on a show likethat.
I'm like for what I feel likeyou are.

Speaker 2 (28:11):
I feel like to get on a show like that your
relationship either one is not Idon't know if your relationship
is real or not like why wouldyou go on there?
It's kind of like what's theword common sense?
Like bruh, why would you dothat?

(28:33):
You?

Speaker 1 (28:34):
know, I think it's just famous.
Maybe, like it's a part of thatis being want to be famous.

Speaker 2 (28:42):
I dated somebody before and they had an
opportunity to go on this showcalled something with X,
something with an X, to wherethey would go on an island and I
guess a bunch of differentpeople would see their X's on

(29:04):
the island and kind of see whathappens.
And she turned it down.
I mean, maybe she turned itdown because of me, because I
was like what the fuck are youdoing?
Like what is this?
But she definitely thoughtabout the money.

Speaker 1 (29:17):
Yeah, I mean For sure .
Yeah, I mean there's a lot ofmoney.
Absolutely, it still buildsyour fame.
At the same time, it does.
Yeah, yeah, it does, so you canplay it better.

Speaker 2 (29:27):
I wonder if somebody like transitioned out of that to
like a better, not a better buta more range to their
celebritism.

Speaker 1 (29:37):
Right, so I mean.

Speaker 2 (29:39):
Is that a word?

Speaker 1 (29:39):
I'm sure yeah, so like is that a word?

Speaker 2 (29:41):
I'm sure yeah, so like love is blind right out
there.

Speaker 1 (29:42):
No, I ain't talking about love is blind but I'm just
saying I'm saying temptationisland type well, I mean that
this first season who knows?

Speaker 2 (29:49):
it depends on how likable you are no, I'm saying
right now like dude, can youthink of anybody in your head
that started off on somethinglike that?
That's just like they have a, a, a, I don't know, a, a career
of I career, that's not that.

Speaker 1 (30:05):
But it evolved the love and hip hop of the world.
You know, it's just realitytelevision yeah if you're
charismatic, you can in your joband you got the right team
around you, you can flip into alot of different things okay,
yeah, I can see that.

Speaker 2 (30:19):
I can see that with, like, the bad girls club and
shit like that but he clearlywanted to go there for a
threesome.

Speaker 1 (30:24):
The black dude, that was really on his mind.

Speaker 2 (30:27):
He manifested that shit.
Yeah, he definitely walked outwith the win.
Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 1 (30:34):
I mean it's 12 women and they bad and they young and
they drinking.

Speaker 2 (30:40):
I don't understand why you and they on the island
with them by themselves.
So yeah, I feel like it's justa certain type of person.
You got to be a certain type ofperson to go on there, you know
, and I feel like those showsare really only made for, like,
the college ages, you know.

Speaker 1 (30:56):
Nah, because there's men on the other island that are
36.
Shit, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And they're in 30s.
Yeah, yeah, okay.

Speaker 2 (31:08):
Well, it's a certain type of some of the young dudes
are 22, I got friends that woulddo that yeah uh, I don't know
about, in a relationship I don'tknow, maybe they would, I don't
know yeah, I mean you couldmake it, it could be.

Speaker 1 (31:17):
I mean, the island is lit for the guys, yeah, yeah
for for the, for the other guys,the 12 islands, like bruh, like
that, don't even seem that litlike you just have fun amongst
your, your, your boys, reallykind of because a lot of those
girls aren't gonna be be with it, not because they don't want to

(31:39):
.
It's because their image, sothey can't yeah their image
having sex immediately on theisland you gotta be like strong
in your player so they become alot of them like you're my
bestie.
You know I mean type of shitand then.
But some dude like the two thatbroke off um, it's the white

(31:59):
girl, she's in a.
Pretty much they have their ina black dude that's on the
island.
They probably gonna have sexyeah yeah, yeah, but that was
stemming off of some breakuptype stuff.
And then another girl, her.
She saw her man having sex withanother person, so that opened
her up to be you know more outthere.
So she kissed another guy.
She's into the young dudethat's on there.

(32:20):
Oh my god yeah, so they may endup something, but it may be
like too much.
You know what I mean.
We'll see.

Speaker 2 (32:27):
They don't usually ever work out.

Speaker 1 (32:29):
Yeah, of course it's not, but it's that one couple,
though.

Speaker 2 (32:31):
I don't know if you've ever seen it.
Love is Blind.
With it was a black girl and awhite dude.

Speaker 1 (32:37):
Yeah, no, they told me about yeah.

Speaker 2 (32:40):
I think they still together.

Speaker 1 (32:41):
Yeah, well, there's some couples on Love of Bottoms
work, but this ain't that.
This ain't designed for peopleto stay Absolutely.
Yeah, this is designed forliterally mess Like how can we
create some mess?

Speaker 2 (32:55):
and shit for TV.
What the fuck?
Yeah, that sounds like anamazing watch.

Speaker 1 (33:01):
Literally.

Speaker 2 (33:02):
What's the next episode?

Speaker 1 (33:03):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, like we binged it for real and
we haven't binged anything in along time.

Speaker 2 (33:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (33:08):
Yeah, so we're like two we're on.
It was Saturday, so we're onMonday, and we probably got
maybe two episodes left.
Damn, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (33:17):
Yeah, that's how I like to watch Netflix shows
anyway anyway, yeah, yeah soliterally just like temptation
island.

Speaker 1 (33:22):
But if you was, if you was with your boys, then it
would be like hella fun.
But if you come in there as acouple, you just know that your
shit's gonna probably get ruineduh, yeah yeah that's all.

Speaker 2 (33:33):
That's how it always kind of seemed to me.
Have you ever seen theultimatum?
Yes I love that.
It's so messy that what you'retalking about is like times five
oh, yeah, yeah, the ultimatum.
You got to pick another coupleright, and you got to marry them
.

Speaker 1 (33:50):
Yeah, exactly, yeah, exactly that that one is like
you can, you can't get out ofyour couple.
You know you can't choosenobody else.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So you stuck with the good andthe bad of them and that's just
going to be a turn up becausethey're not gonna probably be
your partner.
Yeah, for the most part, butthat's completely.

(34:10):
If you ain't taught to that.
One chick that's there, there'sanother chick that's bad, and
another and another yeah, Idon't.
And then not only that, and notonly that, they they kick off
people on the show and they alsobring up.
So if they kick off two boysand two girls, they're bringing
in another two boys and anothertwo girls.

(34:30):
So, yeah, they're gettingbadder, you know what I mean.
Alright, let's bring up somemore.
That's messy as hell, yeah,yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2 (34:41):
That's a funny show.

Speaker 1 (34:42):
Have you watched Drewski's show?
I watched a little bit, likethe have been love yeah, that
shit is funny.

Speaker 2 (34:48):
Yeah, that's grade a entertainment yeah yeah, but
that's just entertainment.

Speaker 1 (34:53):
He ain't really looking for love for but it's,
it's amazing.

Speaker 2 (34:56):
I mean, yeah, the man got studs on there he is he
kissing the studs?
He had kissed one stud on thelast one, not like a big super
smooch, but like they basicallywon a challenge in a way.
They won a challenge and helike pecked them on the lips.
He pecked them on the lips, butwhy?

Speaker 1 (35:16):
are you calling him?
I don't know, because it soundswow.

Speaker 2 (35:23):
I don't know why I did that.
That's hilarious.
I naturally did that shit.

Speaker 1 (35:30):
Damn, that's funny.
That's how much the stud lookslike.
No.

Speaker 2 (35:34):
Which is like I just super stereotyped the stud, like
when I did that.
No, like it wasn't like a supermasculine stud.
Oh, okay.
But either way, that's funnyand they had Dr Umar on there.

Speaker 1 (35:49):
Talking to the white girl.

Speaker 2 (35:51):
Everybody that wasn't black.
He was talking to them and justlike grilling they ass for not
being black.
For real.
It was hilarious.
You gotta watch that.
Sometimes the Dr Umar episodeIs probably the most funny.
Yeah, that shit.
I think that shit had got likea million In like a couple hours
.

Speaker 1 (36:09):
Oh, wow, yeah, I definitely probably Got to see
that drug.
I started to watch it but, yeah, I got distracted.

Speaker 2 (36:15):
Yeah, it's super messy, super messy, like in a
ghetto way, girls fighting.

Speaker 1 (36:22):
Oh yeah, of course.

Speaker 2 (36:23):
Oh yeah, so it's like some Zeus shit.
Zeus yeah, this is like, thisis like.
This is like what's that showcalled Flavor of Love?
Oh, yeah, yeah yeah, but 50% ofthe women have anger management
issues.
Oh okay, yeah.
So as soon as the word bitchflies out, you're gonna see

(36:44):
hands like from somewhere.
It's a girl from memphis onthere.
She definitely beating girls up.
Yeah, under the table, justclapping my hands, yeah, yeah no
, um, no, that's, that's it.

Speaker 1 (36:58):
That's like like the zeus one with the aaron the
plumber yes, in a way yeah, heis coming up bro, did you see
the video with aaron the plumber?

Speaker 2 (37:08):
this man was he called?
Uh no, he was on.
He filmed himself.
First of all, he's trying tofight everybody in the world,
right?
Yeah, so he got all that hypeand all that type of shit and
then he filmed it.
There's a clip.
There's a clip.
It's about like one minute longand it starts off and it's
three.
It's three different clips puttogether.
The first clip is him saying Ineed that, I need that fade, I

(37:34):
need that fade.
Yo whack, you know, whack 100I'm like whack, I need that fade
, um, this other dude, I needthat fade on blood or on whoever
he was talking to.
It was mostly the bloods On thebloods.
I need that I need.
And it went to the next clip.

(37:56):
Next clip was him in the bedwith the phone, with the phone
up like this, it was on speakerand it was Wack.
Wack was like Nigga when we itwas okay, yo yo mama, yo yo girl
, your kid won't give a fuckabout nothing, nothing.
And he was like bro, I wasn'teven like really on that, for

(38:16):
real.
He said I wasn't even reallylike boop.
And then it went to the thirdclip and the third clip was him
in the car.
Him in the car and it wassomebody filming on the
passenger side and he's lookingover.
He's looking over at thepassenger side while he's, uh,
driving.
He's like, oh, I'm going to thejailhouse, I'm going.

(38:36):
No, no, he's like I'm going tothe police, I'm going to the
police.
He said killing moms.
They want to off moms.
He said they want to off moms.
Oh, he got to go.
He did it, he did it Boop.
We didn't stop.

Speaker 1 (38:51):
I respect that, that's the last.

Speaker 2 (38:54):
What?
What do you mean?
The man was like I'll fight you, nigga, I'll fight you, I'll
fight you.
And the dude was like oh,what's up then?

Speaker 1 (39:02):
And he's like nah, no , no, I'm just saying he's like
bro, I'm trying to fight.
I have a boundary.
You put a boundary on me.
No, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like I respect it, like bro,there's a boundary to his limit.

Speaker 2 (39:14):
All right.

Speaker 1 (39:14):
He ain't just.
And then he's recording himselfbacktracking.
I kind of respect, respect thatloki, okay, yeah, yeah, I just,
it's funny to me.

Speaker 2 (39:31):
Yeah, it's hilarious the whack was for real they talk
about killing kids.
Nah, he did it, he did it.
I'm going to the police rightnow.
That was too funny.
That's hilarious, bro.
That was too funny.
Yeah, um yeah I got some randomquestions.
Bro.
All right, what you got fromthe final all right.
So sponsored by chat gpt.
So you know, on this podcast wedo a lot of talking about

(39:56):
relationships, politics and theculture yeah, right so I got a
whole bunch of random things, um, to talk about since we're.
So I got a whole bunch of randomthings to talk about since
we're in.
Since we're in the laughingmood right now, I'll ask one of
these.
So let's start withrelationships.
Okay, all right.
And I haven't answered these inmy head or anything.

Speaker 1 (40:20):
I'm hearing these for the first time.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (40:23):
He's hearing these for the first time.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, he'shearing these for the first time
, so I'm going to just go off.
Something random Is slidinginto DMs, the modern version of
may I court you, or just digitalthirst.

Speaker 1 (40:39):
It all depends on how you do it, but it can be both.

Speaker 2 (40:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (40:43):
I don't know if that's, it's you like.

Speaker 2 (40:44):
Is it like?
Do you think that the, the artof getting to know someone, is
dying?
Not necessarily not necessarilyhold on, not necessarily like
when you you go out and you'reon a date or whatever.
I'm saying like the firstinitial hollering at somebody.
Do you think that has or is, is, is?

Speaker 1 (41:09):
dying.
I want to go back.
I I want to hold that questionbecause I want to go back to
what you just said about thesliding to them what it is.
It is that that note.
Do you like me, yes or no?
Yeah, or maybe yeah that's whatsliding into the ends remind me
of because it is hard to saywhat you, how you feel in person

(41:29):
.
So you want to, at least youknow, take that rejection by
yourself.

Speaker 2 (41:34):
You don't want it to be front-facing I feel like do
you like me with that?
I feel like, do you like me?
Yes or no is way moreaggressive than sliding into a
DM.

Speaker 1 (41:46):
Because you just say hey, you can say hey.

Speaker 2 (41:47):
You can say, oh, I've seen somebody put a basketball
emoji Like, oh, my ball stood inyour court, something you know.
But do you like me, yes or no?
I mean, that's very blunt andto the point, right.

Speaker 1 (42:02):
But at the same time it is trying to get somebody's
attention because that'ssomebody you like, so you want
them to talk to you if anything,so that's what so?

Speaker 2 (42:12):
but yeah, it's not, of course, exactly equivalent
but that's very similar, but I'msorry yeah, I feel like that's
even what you just said is apart of what I'm saying about
like the game aspect, becauselike you doing it and writing it
on and giving it to the girland like the physical world,
it's like it still is like damn,he did all, he put his.

(42:32):
You know that's like a dudewalking across the street to a
girl.
She sees him walking the wholeway.
I'm like damn, like he's likereally trying to get at me so I
feel like that's a uh upperlevel of um, what's the word?
just trying to get down, tryingto holler at somebody what's,
what's?
Is there another word for that?

Speaker 1 (42:50):
I mean, yeah, I think it's both of those yeah but how
do you feel about that?

Speaker 2 (42:55):
uh sliding to your dm um of it being what like the
new version of hollering atpeople yeah it's definitely that
.
It's absolutely that I think Ihave been in social media for so
long, and I'm so at this.
At this point, I'm used to thethought of whoever I get with is

(43:17):
probably not in my city, so,and I've grown to get to this
point, though, just being asocial media for so long.
And your videos do this, andthen you see somebody and then
you're like shit.
She might reply because I gotthis many amount or I'm funny,
whatever.
So let me just say hi, so Ihave definitely indulged in that

(43:38):
, but I I before that, though,um, or even now, if there is
somebody that I think is cute,or whatever I will, I will walk
up to her and I'll ask um, yeah,you know rejected or which.
I think I got rejected the lasttime I did that.

Speaker 1 (43:56):
Oh, okay.

Speaker 2 (43:56):
Yeah, I was at an airport, she was too fine.
What did she say to you?
Oh my God.

Speaker 1 (44:01):
No.

Speaker 2 (44:04):
I don't remember what she said.
I was just like.
It was just that feeling.
That that's when I rememberedreally like or or, actually
thinking about it and assessingthe whole thing.
Now that social mediadefinitely like, messes people
up with that, uh.
Or the confidence, because youget confidence from failures,
basically, or trying, so okaywell, anything I I I, you don't

(44:29):
agree, not really.
What are you having?

Speaker 1 (44:32):
that's a name anything you don't get
confidence in failing.

Speaker 2 (44:36):
Yes, you, do you can do the bill.

Speaker 1 (44:37):
You can get bill resentment from it.
It just depends on who you arebut anything, anything I am car,
anything, anybody livesomething that gets to you, that
can get to you like maybe I'mnot good enough, maybe I should
stop trying, maybe I should moveon to something else if you're
confident one thing you'reconfident in I'm confident in um
my ability to uh uh, see theperception of people.

(45:05):
If that makes sense.
If that makes sense, I don'tknow if that.

Speaker 2 (45:11):
See the perception of people.

Speaker 1 (45:12):
Oh, I'm able to see through people very easily.
I'm confident in that ability.

Speaker 2 (45:17):
Okay, was there ever a time where you felt that you
had?
Was there ever a time that youhad to develop that skill, or a
time that you didn't have thatskill?
Yeah, okay, so did you fail inthat area?

Speaker 1 (45:35):
But that wasn't an intentional failure.

Speaker 2 (45:37):
I didn't say it was intentional.
I'm saying confidence is builtoff of trial and error, like
failing any confidence.

Speaker 1 (45:45):
But I think that confidence also builds off of
success.
If you keep constantlysucceeding in an area that
builds confidence, I think we'reboth right here.
Yeah, I think it could be both.
It just appears like you know,when you have the people who,
what's?
The people who don't get girlsLames.

Speaker 2 (46:01):
No.

Speaker 1 (46:04):
No, no, Like people who build resentment from women
because they constantly getrejected and they turn out to
really dislike yeah, or wantedto see them get.
I'm not gonna say just like,but wanted to see them get in on
because they feel they have alack of confidence in themselves
but then if you get, if you geta lot of women, then you may

(46:26):
build that confidence and youknow what I mean so it could
work both ways and then, butthen you.
But I agree that it's trial anderror that makes you great at
what you do right, yeah, forsure, yeah but it can also
reverse, go the other way, andthat's why I'm saying okay, no,
I think we.

Speaker 2 (46:43):
it's basically the same thing.
Um, let me see, let me see, letme see, let me see, let me see,
let me see, let me see.
I'm going to go with what youwant, relationship politics or
culture.

Speaker 1 (46:56):
I will go Keep going with relationship Relationship.
Let's see, let's see.

Speaker 2 (47:01):
Let's see 200.
Who suffers more from a breakupMen, women or the friends
forced to listen to both sides?
It?

Speaker 1 (47:10):
women or the friends forced to listen to both sides.
It's definitely not the thefriend.

Speaker 2 (47:12):
Absolutely.
Again, it's a chat, gpt, butyeah, it's going on the right
track.

Speaker 1 (47:18):
Um, it, it.
It all depends on who getsbroken up with.
I say men Suffers the most.
Yes, every time I think I wantto agree with you, but it just
if.
If I'm breaking up with a girl,I'm not going to suffer the
most.

Speaker 2 (47:34):
Because you're breaking up with a girl.
I'm saying like a bad breakupon either side.
Who suffers the most?
Oh?

Speaker 1 (47:40):
yeah, if the person let's ask the question, the
person, if they're gettingbroken up with which male or
female suffers the most from theone they get married.

Speaker 2 (47:52):
Men for sure, absolutely, yeah, yeah I think
there's like a oh shit, what thefuck?
Um, my bad, we got sometechnical difficulties, we're
good.
Um, let me literally takethings like way harder, but I

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think maybe it's because of likethe friend structure and how
men operate that is because ofthat because men don't really
like men don't really like me.
I hate Saying Whatever's wrongIn any relationship Just for
some reason.
It's just like.

(48:37):
Saying what's wrong?

Speaker 1 (48:39):
In the relationship, like telling her what she's
doing wrong.

Speaker 2 (48:41):
Telling my friends like Okay.
This is going wrong In therelationship.
It's like as soon as it leavesmy mouth, I'm just like did I
really need to say that?

Speaker 1 (48:54):
okay, okay and I never felt that for me.

Speaker 2 (48:58):
I know we talk all the time, but I'm saying like
venting is one thing, but againI feel like with women, women
talk more with their friends ingeneral, so they have more
opportunities to unload thispain or whatever.

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It is not saying that theydon't go through anything or
it's not hard.
I just feel like with men Ican't count on one hand men that
come to me when they're likestruggling in a relationship
yeah, I mean yeah definitelyhave a friend to do so, yeah

(49:41):
it's, it's, it's, it's just,it's few.
I just feel like with women it'sit's a little bit more.
Um, I don't know, I'm not awoman, but it seems that every
time I had a woman like herfriend circle is like they'll
lift her up.
You know, like everybody andeverybody come over if she's

(50:01):
going through it, and all thatyou know?
Okay, that's what you're saying, yeah the support system is
just a little different.
Oh yeah, yeah, for sure, yeahright, I totally agree on that.

Speaker 1 (50:10):
The support system is different, but if somebody's
going through it, I think we docheck on our people.
Yeah no, yeah, yeah, yeah, wemay not stop everything we're
doing to make sure they're okay,but it depends on what happened
, you know yeah yeah, so ifthere's a point to where it's
like hey bro, I know how much he, because we have one of our

(50:31):
friends like I know how much heloves her yeah so if something
goes awry and you know shecheats or something like hey, we
need to check on this manbecause he's devastated right
now yeah and so it.
For a while it was like we hadour conversations when it would
be not specifically cheating,but issues in the relationship,
and then we'll all we'll comeback and be like bruh.

(50:53):
We had to come as like bruh, wedon't he?
She's not good for him, right?
Yeah, he may not see this, buthe's actually above her uh, and
I feel that with a lot of guys.
You know what I mean.
Yeah, a lot of my friends.
It's like bruh like, becausesome, some women, they don't
realize how much they strugglewith the communication part of

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it, and then they also thinkvery highly of themselves, so
they don't think it's them.

Speaker 2 (51:21):
I mean, that happens a lot.

Speaker 1 (51:22):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (51:24):
I mean I guess there's certain type of people
too that that happens with.
All in all yeah, I just that umthe way men operate versus
women.
I could just see more so thatmen like really take shit like
harder um absolutely, I mean I,I can speak for myself.

Speaker 1 (51:44):
Yeah, yeah, I took my shit hard yeah, very hard.
I don't even know if you canremember the time that you know
when me and my ex girlfrienduh-huh broke up.

Speaker 2 (51:56):
I'm not broken up it wasn't even.

Speaker 1 (51:57):
We wasn't even together, to be honest.
We was always on the back andforth and then we was like we're
in a relationship but we're notphase so.
So when you, when you came in,it was more so we wasn't in a
relationship, but I very muchstill loved her.
I'm only going to speak formyself.
That was very troublesome forme.

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It's really hard for me to hearMe too.

Speaker 2 (52:24):
That was crazy.
I ain't never even seen me thatlow before.
That shit was crazy.
I ain't never even seen me thatlow before.
That shit was crazy.
Like I was fucking working out,just fighting tears, working
out, because you know, thisrelationship was so big and huge
and when it ended it was justlike damn, it was like a death.

(52:46):
It was like a death in thefamily.
That shit was wild.

Speaker 1 (52:50):
I mean, I can still say that I never wished that on
me, I never wished that onnobody, on me in particular,
like one thing A that it's hardfor me to relive.

Speaker 2 (53:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (53:04):
Yeah, that is one of them.
Yeah, it's just like one of mytop things to relive.
Yeah, it's just like one of mytop things to relive, cause I
just remember how like I'll bein a in a class and how I was
the the that was so heavy Icouldn't even hear anybody.

Speaker 2 (53:19):
Absolutely.

Speaker 1 (53:20):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, so you could be talkinglike Justin, I couldn't hear you
.
You know what I mean.
That would be so loud, all Icould so loud.
All I could think about was her.
Yeah, like going through thatmotion that I would like any
relationship.
I was like I'd rather be bymyself than feel this yeah, yeah
.
If I have to scramble and feelout and what you're doing and

(53:41):
where you're at, I'm gonna breakup because yeah I can't.
I'd rather move on than have tofeel this pain of worrying about
you.
Yeah.
Absolutely, that was yeah To goon a full panic of overthinking
.
I'd rather be at peace.
That's why I try.
You know, I've been loyal andLord will not constantly be

(54:03):
there.
I'm humbly saying my loyalty.
Is I just like peace, bro?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, just relax.

Speaker 2 (54:09):
Yeah, that is a total different ball game.
Yeah, yeah, that is wild.
Like I can even understand howyou know men in long-term
relationship marry with kids andall that.
Oh my god, like if somethinghappens and you gotta deal with
that shit new kids and this andthat and houses and so so I so.

Speaker 1 (54:31):
Now we're on a deep level, and I want to get just a
tad bit more deeper, if I mayyeah how do you think and I'll
respond, but I want to ask youhow do you think your girl
reacted compared to how you werereacting at the time?
If you was to guess, during thebreakup oh, not the same at all
.

Speaker 2 (54:47):
No, I was super surprised of how she was even
acting.
Yeah, like I was not.
That that was one of the mainreasons why I was just like
super messed up in the head.
I was just like distraught.
I'm like man, I could havesworn this type of shit would
never happen to me and it washappening in real time and it

(55:10):
wouldn't.
It didn't stop happening andI'm like it was just move after
move, after move and I'm like yo, I, I just felt like I was
living in a different world.
So her on her side, I can'tspeak for and I also can't speak
for whatever drove or whateverdrives a woman to act

(55:31):
differently.
So I'm sure 100.
I had some type of play intothat of pushing a certain person
to their points, just to givecredit.
But, um, yeah, I was surprised,I, I was, I was, um, I was
messed up about that.
But how she, she reacted.
It was already done and I feellike that.
I feel like it was a totaldifferent phase.

Speaker 1 (55:52):
That's what you're saying.
She was on the phase of gettingover the situation while you
were just going through thebreakup phase.

Speaker 2 (56:00):
Yeah, I'm still in love, I'm still like you're my
woman and all this stuff.
And then this is boom Like no.

Speaker 1 (56:11):
That's very tough.

Speaker 2 (56:12):
Yeah, so I'm thinking um for women, which I hear a
lot sometimes they're alreadydone.
Like they already done, did theprocess, cried and this and
that while you was at work yeahright shit by the time you get
back and all this is that that.
So yeah, it's kind of likecommitment, um, the whole

(56:33):
breakup phase, you know, or themmoving on.
It's just committed to I said Iwas gonna leave this nigga, I'm
gonna leave him, I'm gonna dowhat I did.
So they're just in the, thecommitment of what they already
did.
So that's probably like a wholedifferent process of pain and
all that for them.
Depending on who they are, theycould just be like evil, yeah.

Speaker 1 (56:57):
I think I have a sibling that's on that route,
like like, I don't know, I'veI've never saw her in love okay,
that's different.
Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, whethershe met.
Yeah, yeah, how she handles andmoves.
It's a study.
You know what I mean.
It's like fast, it's not.

(57:18):
It's evil to whoever she's with.
I look at it that way, uh-huhuh-huh yeah yeah.
And how she moves, but it's likeyou can't disturb her
emotionally, like you can'tcheat on her a million times and
she would react emotionallyLike I'm making.

(57:41):
That's not a true statement,but that's the feeling I get.
Like okay, ed, but if you pissher off, it's enough for her to
stab you Okay, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (57:53):
So it's so zero to 100 type thing.

Speaker 1 (57:55):
No, no, no, I'm saying it wrong and I'm not
properly articulating myselfwhen I say piss her off.
You could ask her the samequestion 10 times and that's
enough for you to get punched inthe face, okay.
Yeah yeah, yeah, but if you wasto have sex with?
Another chick it wouldn't bethat much disturbing, it
wouldn't be enough for her to bephysically violent with you.

(58:17):
Wow, yeah yeah, her, her emotion, maybe emotional intelligence,
and maybe she hasn't met theright person, but from what I've
seen, it's like, dang, do youlove anybody or do you love what
they do for you?

Speaker 2 (58:29):
Or do you love what?

Speaker 1 (58:31):
they do for you.
Uh-huh, yeah, yeah, so it'smore of if you can be a very
good provider and I'll mostlyreact off your.
This is my own synopsis.
This could very well not betrue, but I'll react off of the
thing of the providing beingtaken away versus I can replace
you with a million providers,right, yeah, yeah, so it doesn't

(58:51):
have to be you in particular.

Speaker 2 (58:54):
Yeah, it's just what you do for me, yeah I could say,
yeah, that's, that's ainteresting yeah, but my girl is
not on that level.

Speaker 1 (59:04):
You know she's very, yeah she's, she's very much into
the person she's with are yousaying your girl now?

Speaker 2 (59:11):
yeah, yeah, exactly, right, right, right yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (59:13):
So it's like my girl can't paint her face.
Yeah, she can't be like youknow, grieving and I'm not
noticing uh-huh okay no, yeah,at least with me.
Now she may be able to do thatwith her last partner, like be
behind herself.
But you can very much tellShe'll use words that I can tell

(59:37):
exactly how you feel Like theway she'll say interesting.

Speaker 2 (59:42):
Oh, interesting, yeah , yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (59:46):
Say what you got to say.

Speaker 2 (59:47):
Do we got to talk about this?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, it's justinteresting.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, it's justinteresting.
That's too funny.
Uh, where are we at?

Speaker 1 (59:57):
oh we, right on an hour um, you want to do a
political one all right, let'ssee a political one.

Speaker 2 (01:00:05):
It was something that I was looking at.
I thought was pretty thoughtprovoking.
I thought was pretty thoughtprovoking.
These are a couple good ones,so I'm going to go with the
first one.
Has social media made politicalconversations Better or worse?

Speaker 1 (01:00:24):
Social media made political Conversations better
or worse.

Speaker 2 (01:00:29):
I would say worse.
Right, I would think.
Would think it works, right,yeah, I would think worse.
There's too much informationout there uh, yeah, and that's
so.

Speaker 1 (01:00:39):
That's very vague, um , but I mean, and then it's
everybody's opinion and youdon't know who's saying what, if
they're actually a real personor if they're a bot, and so many
people troll yeah I can.
I can never take it too serious, like yeah right, I do believe
that.

Speaker 2 (01:00:56):
Uh, so what political issues impact men the most, but
are rarely talked about?
What do you think?

Speaker 1 (01:01:03):
what political issues impact men the most?
But I rarely talked about doyou got one that comes around
know?

Speaker 2 (01:01:11):
you, you, you be honest a little bit more than me
, so I was curious to what youwould think I mean nothing on
the top of your head I meannothing.

Speaker 1 (01:01:21):
I think that that's rarely talked about.
Um, I think I would just gowith.
If I'm thinking something thatjust comes to my head, I I would
say abortion.

Speaker 2 (01:01:30):
Uh-huh.

Speaker 1 (01:01:31):
Because I mean, nobody talks about the man in
that it's rarely talked about.
It takes two people to tango.

Speaker 2 (01:01:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:01:40):
But you automatically eliminate the one, as if his
opinion doesn't matter.

Speaker 2 (01:01:46):
That was a good one.

Speaker 1 (01:01:47):
Yeah, so that's just kind of how it's like dang, his
opinion doesn't matter at all,so he's literally just a sperm
donor in every situation.
Yeah and how that's and how theytalk about it's women's rights,
and men chew.
You know like they get a say.
It's like yeah, because it alsotook me to create that child as

(01:02:09):
well.
I understand that it is in yourwomb, but that is also my seed,
so I should be at least to havea conversation and say and to
be able to put into yourdecision making.
Now I don't have to be theperson that puts the nail in the
coffin, but like hey, myopinion matters.

Speaker 2 (01:02:27):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I feel like it doesn't reallytruly matter.
Yeah, so I think, that's hardeven say for real, you know,
because it's really not my body,it's not so.

(01:02:54):
But there, uh, people basicallylike going through it or
whatever, and like homes thatare split up because men aren't
there yeah, right right, uh, Ithink that could be one, because
it, you know, and then if thereare people that are taking
advantage of that, then it'sreally just, in a way, for the

(01:03:16):
people that are taking advantageof it.
It's solidifying the uh homes,uh, that you know, the family
isn't together, yeah, so it'slike splitting up families, um,
and kind of making it.
I don't know if it would be anorm, but it would just it would

(01:03:37):
.
It would strengthen the disruptin families that don't, you
know, uh, I guess really havemuch right, right, right, right,
um, yeah, definitely back inthe old day for sure, because
that's kind of what it wasdesigned.
Families that don't, you know,uh, I guess really have much.

Speaker 1 (01:03:45):
Right right, right right.
Um, yeah, definitely back inthe old day, for sure, cause
that's kind of what it wasdesigned to do, I think, if you
ask me yeah um, because thegovernment is if they given our
handouts, they taking somethingto ink, yeah.
There's very few situations towhere they don in return.

(01:04:09):
Yeah, they'll say hey, I wantthis thing in return.
They're going to get somethingin return, and that's just kind
of how it goes.
Yeah, um, yeah, so I think thatwas kind of the situation.
Now that it's a fully fledgedthing, it may not be exactly
what it's intended to be, whatit used to be, I don't know.
Um, I still, I still think, Iknow it's not even.
I think that the system can beran way better way more

(01:04:31):
efficient, and if you trulycared about the people, you
wouldn't have it ran the way itis currently.
You're right, yeah, do we havetime for one?

Speaker 2 (01:04:41):
more.
Let's see what role.
This is something that Ithought was interesting.
What role does emotionalintelligence play in a
successful relationship for men?

Speaker 1 (01:04:59):
um emotional intelligence.
What can you define emotionalintelligence?
Emotional intelligence.
So Can you define emotionalintelligence?

Speaker 2 (01:05:05):
Emotional intelligence.
So instead of being likeerratic, volatile with my
emotions, if you know, I'm justletting you know.
It's like I don't know ifirritating is the best word, but

(01:05:33):
it's making me a littlefrustrated when you say things
over and over.
Can, like you just say it thisway for me that's like it's
eliminating yeah, yeah, and Ithink it was funny.

Speaker 1 (01:05:45):
I was in aana and he was an old head and then he was
like he was talking about hisdaughter dating and he's like,
yeah, he lacked emotionalintelligence and she said that
to his father.
He was like emotionalintelligence.
I need to look that up.
That's some new shit.
Yeah yeah, yeah, so for meemotional intelligence is like

(01:06:05):
the I shouldn't tell you how Ifeel.
You should be able to read iton me.

Speaker 2 (01:06:09):
Yeah, you should be able to oh as in like for the
opposite person like emotionally, you supposed to be your IQ.

Speaker 1 (01:06:16):
Intelligence is supposed to be able to kind of
figure out what's happening.

Speaker 2 (01:06:20):
So I feel like it might be a broad, a broad thing,
yeah that's my own definition.

Speaker 1 (01:06:26):
we'll have to look up to actually what the meaning is
.
But emotionally, if you'resupposed to kind of know what's
going on, you ain't supposed tolack man.
A lot of people can lack thesituational awareness Like hey,
I'm actually pissing her off.

(01:06:46):
I should stop making fun of heryeah you know what I mean.
Yeah, yeah, I'm actually doingtoo much in this situation.
I need to calm down yeah yeah,yeah.
So there's things to where it'slike, hey, he lacks emotional
intelligence because he kept on,you know, poking the bear when
he should have known that it wasactually okay, so all right,
you're saying it's more like aread the room and yourself.

Speaker 2 (01:07:09):
Yeah, exactly Type thing.
Okay, like a back and forth.
Okay, I never thought of itlike that.

Speaker 1 (01:07:13):
So that's just kind of how I see it.
Maybe it's more romanticizedthan that, but that's just kind
of like hey, he actuallyunderstands what's going on.
He actually tries to approachme in a different way because he
knew that way wasn't effective.

Speaker 2 (01:07:31):
Right right.

Speaker 1 (01:07:32):
But then they also.
Now it can be also used as away of communicating.
Like hey, this is kind of whereI've seen it be used.
You're doing therun-of-the-mill game and it's

(01:07:52):
not effective, you know, yeah,like you're still trying to say
most shit knowing like, hey,girl, yeah, like like hey,
hollering at the girl down thestreet and you, hey, girl, you
know like tone down yeah,exactly that could be lacking
emotional intelligence.
You're actually supposed tocourt me, you know yeah.
So, it can be kind of skewedand used in different ways.

(01:08:14):
But I think, it's really morereading the room.

Speaker 2 (01:08:16):
Yeah, I can see what you're saying.
With that, I can see whatyou're saying.

Speaker 1 (01:08:20):
Reading her body language.

Speaker 2 (01:08:22):
Right, right, yeah, just maybe an overall thing,
situationally aware, I think.
Um, I actually think it'sextremely important for men to
be emotionally intelligent, Ithink more so than women, even
though it's a big thing that youknow, people say women are so

(01:08:42):
emotional and this is now theygot to get their emotions
together and all that, thoughyou know a part of that, and
I've seen with many women thatis true.
I also feel like there can't bea leader in the house if this
nigga doesn't have that.
I feel like there are a lot of.
There are a lot of stories thatI've heard about men all from

(01:09:06):
women where I realized, likeguys are like crazy, like for
real, and nobody knows, you know, like ain't no friend gonna
tell you.
Um, yeah, you know, I just didthis crazy ass shit, just
something like maybe domesticviolence, or I just stalked her

(01:09:26):
and like went to her house whileshe was whatever.
I've heard stories about a dudetrying to climb up this girl's
on the second floor of a houseand he climbed up and like tried
to get in her kitchen window,like was it dating no, they
broke up already okay, I'msaying, I'm just saying they
it's not like it was somebody hesaw at school.

(01:09:49):
I'm saying he is not in controlof himself.
Yeah, that's man, it's aspider-man out like uh, but I'm
just saying like they always arein leadership roles, they

(01:10:15):
always are intact like they areintact with their emotions.
They don't get out of control.
They don't really raise theirvoice.
They might say, say a fact orsomething and be stern with it,
but never like I ain't seen apresident be like man.
Fuck that who.

Speaker 1 (01:10:35):
Trump be like that It'll be.
The Zelensky meeting was like afuck.
All that no that was stern.

Speaker 2 (01:10:46):
That goes along with what I'm saying.
It was stern, it was like no,you're not not gonna do that.
You're not gonna.
It wasn't like no man, get thisman out of here like he wasn't
like that.

Speaker 1 (01:10:57):
He can have that in him and but, but that's.
There's a game to it too.
Yeah, yeah, so yeah, he ain'tgonna, he ain't gonna be that in
front of the cameras in theworld.
You know what I mean, but yeah,so I still don't think he'll
get loud but I'm just, I'm well,I'm just saying presidents in
general, yeah, yeah yeah yeah,that is.
I don't think that truly speaksto their stoicism.

Speaker 2 (01:11:19):
Yeah it's got to they gotta.

Speaker 1 (01:11:20):
They have to get there and do the role and credit
, because it is not that theythe wildest wildest, yeah, they
showing their ass.

Speaker 2 (01:11:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:11:28):
But to me that's more orchestrated than it gives them
credit for how they are inprivate, because they're
probably still probably just ascrazy like us.
Yeah, yeah yeah, I mean, yeah,I mean, like JK all them, how
much pussy Clinton and them Wasgetting on.

(01:11:49):
You got flight logs on FCNIsland.
Them some wild boys.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, this isstraight up, you gotta kill
people.
Yeah, you're a wild boy To be apresident, I don't care what
you say, but you ain't probablyComing up and like, hey, I'm
gonna Jump up a tree toMelania's house, but I mean what
you say, but you, you ain't.
You ain't.
You ain't probably coming upand like, hey, I'm going to, uh,
I'm going to jump up a tree tomelania's house, but I mean, I,

(01:12:12):
I think you really have that'san interesting conversation
where you landed uh-huh becauseI you know, there's times to
where I'll speak to myself aboutmyself.
There's times where you're likeI want to pull up.
I want to pull up on her assright now, but I know I have the
perception Of how it would look.

Speaker 2 (01:12:33):
That's emotional intelligence.

Speaker 1 (01:12:36):
But it's hard not to yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:12:42):
Have you ever seen the clip of the dude?
He was like all I'm saying isyou know, if I argue with, if we
arguing, and I tell you shut up, don't you think it's wise for
you to shut up?
No, yeah.
Oh my God, that shit was so.

(01:13:03):
It was on the Joe Buddenpodcast, bro.
It was this old dude he started.
Everybody was like what thisman about to say.
It's like If I tell you he waslike an older guy, you could
tell he done slapped some womenaround.
If I tell you Nobody should befighting, Nobody should be
fighting.

(01:13:24):
But Don't you think it would bewise for you to shut up?
If I tell you to shut up?
Yeah but men should be moreemotionally intelligent.
That's all I'm saying.
It could go in leadership roles.
It can go in relationship,which is sort of the same thing.

Speaker 1 (01:13:45):
Your community?

Speaker 2 (01:13:46):
You ain't never did no crazy shit in a relationship
crash, yeah, yeah not, not, notlike climbing walls, but like,
yeah, no, there are definitelytimes where I had to look in the
mirror and be like hey bro, wecan't ever, like you know, say
stuff like that anymore, or youknow, just like growing up being
different relationships, yeahno, there's a lot of things.

(01:14:11):
And now I'm like, now it's downto the point of like, if I even
the other time I was here and Ihad a, got an argument with
somebody and I had to checkmyself, I'm like, damn, it
wasn't like crazy.
But now it's like I'm all theway down here Checking myself,
just like, bro, we gotta bebetter.

Speaker 1 (01:14:32):
I mean, we got so much more to live for.

Speaker 2 (01:14:34):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:14:37):
You really have yourself, but you're like.
You know my mom loves me.
You know I take care of my mom.

Speaker 2 (01:14:42):
You got a kid you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:14:43):
There's so much more that we can do when things
happen to where it's like thisain't that much going to jail
for?
I can't put my life on the line.

Speaker 2 (01:14:51):
There's so much at risk.
So and I love me.

Speaker 1 (01:14:54):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:14:55):
So it's like it's easier to move on, or I thought
about that many times of when Iused to stay in like atlanta.
That's when I was like kind ofgoing out like that, and it's a
different vibe, a differentenergy out there at night and,
um, just being around guys likethere was this one time I was, I
was at, uh, this, this bar withmy ex at the time and at the

(01:15:20):
time both of us were, like, youknow, sort of at our heights in
a way of the, the celebrity shit, the, the um social media fame.
So when we would walk in wewould get like certain looks and
stuff like that.
So this dude I'm at the barthis dude comes up to me, he's,

(01:15:41):
he's bigger than me and he gotlike, is his friend with him?
And then he say he just he tapsme.
He was like, hey, I put my 20right down there, bro, you got
my 20 and I'm just super random,you know, and I'm from memphis
or you know from you understandjust the area or whatever.

(01:16:03):
So I'm like you know this, whencertain energy greets you, it's
like an automatic like yeah,you take on the energy that you
bring you take on that energyexactly.
So now I'm like, damn, like,we're in the middle of the bar.
I got my girl here.
I gotta protect her.
This nigga pressed me over his20 that I it wasn't my fault.

(01:16:27):
And now he's like he's startingto like Raise his voice and
shit.
And then he's like, nah, bro, Iput my $20 right here, bro,
like I know that you didsomething.
And I'm like, bro, I ain't donothing with your $20.
And it got there.
So now I'm looking at thisnigga in the eye, he looking at
me in the eye, and then he lookback at his friend.
He look back at me.
He was like I was just playing,bro, you right, so silly bro, I

(01:16:51):
just had to fuck with you realquick.
It took me a second to evenlaugh, bro.
I'm like what the fuck?
But I say that to say I thoughtabout moments like that where
you know the theory of you drinksome henny and then you know
you at the club and some niggabump into you all of a sudden.

Speaker 1 (01:17:09):
Bro who the?

Speaker 2 (01:17:09):
fuck who who bumped into me and like how that could
literally lead to death, brolike yeah people dying.
It may not even be you, it maybe a random person in a club or
whatever, but like that is justcrazy.
So yeah that emotionalintelligence, I feel like it's
so.

Speaker 1 (01:17:26):
It's so far more important than self yeah, that's
the worst part about being likedoing the funny shit yeah, that
people want to be funny withyou and you don't yeah yeah,
that's why I'd rather be like,but I'd rather talk about
political seriousness, becausethat, that energy doesn't even
greet.
You know.

(01:17:47):
Yeah, if I was to ever be onthat, it was yeah, yeah, I
haven't felt that that way in alot of moments there.

Speaker 2 (01:17:54):
there are moments, though.
There there was a time where Iwas at, uh, um, uh, what's the
homecoming for?
It's in atlanta.
It was just like huge, justhomecoming for a bunch of the
HBCUs out there and it was, Imean, flooded with people, bro,
like you can't.

(01:18:14):
Even you got to walk like this,you got to scoot to go wherever
you go in, like a whole mileradius, and people was tapping
me on the shoulder.
Say something funny bro, Saysomething, funny bro.

Speaker 1 (01:18:23):
I can't even run away .

Speaker 2 (01:18:25):
That man got his phone out, snapped it.

Speaker 1 (01:18:31):
Hey bro, this right, so silly bro.
Look, I'm like, bro, get me outof here.
Bro, it will happen, yeah, yeahyeah, it will happen like that.
So I I get what you're saying.
Yeah, that has to suck for real.
Yeah, it has its moments.

Speaker 2 (01:18:42):
It has its amazing moments and I'm not.
I'm not.
I'm a shy person Actually.
So I like to talk and all that,but it's usually just With the
people closest to me, not likerandom people.

Speaker 1 (01:18:54):
Yeah, yeah, nah, but this was another great episode.

Speaker 2 (01:18:59):
Yeah, this was a great episode, yeah yeah, yeah,
no, we really talked.

Speaker 1 (01:19:02):
I love the questions yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:19:04):
We gotta do the chat GPT more For sure.
Yeah, I mean I gotta.
I love the questions.
Yeah, we got to do the chat GPTmore for sure.
Yeah, I mean I got to think ofstuff.
Yeah, no, that's hilarious.

Speaker 1 (01:19:13):
Yeah, but hey, I don't got no more to add.

Speaker 2 (01:19:17):
I'm good man.

Speaker 1 (01:19:18):
All right.
Well, this is another episodeof Two for the Culture.
We'll be back.

Speaker 2 (01:19:21):
We'll be back.
Yes, sir, all right yeah.