The Big Joker: Social Media, Dating, and Apocalypse Readiness

Justin and Stephen explore survival strategies in a zombie apocalypse while discussing how modern technology might fail us when society collapses. They debate the practicality of electric vehicles during societal breakdown and share personal approaches to apocalypse readiness.

• Social media platforms serve different purposes with Facebook being more family-oriented and Instagram functioning as a popularity contest
• Public relationships create unique pressures as seen with Will Smith and Jada Pinkett Smith's situation
• Dating in the digital age has evolved with apps, social media followers, and even Uber driving becoming new ways to meet potential partners
• The "big joker" metaphor represents using social status or following as leverage in dating scenarios
• Modern men approach dating differently than previous generations, with less face-to-face interaction due to fear of rejection
• Nostalgia for MTV shows like "Yo Mama" and "Room Raiders" represents a simpler time in entertainment

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, and we are back with another episode of
Two for the Culture.
I'm Justin Devate.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
I'm Stephen Ray.

Speaker 1 (00:07):
Yes, sir, and we're back here.
How you doing, man.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
I'm doing good man, I'm doing good, doing well.
I feel like that fast that Idid is kind of like continuing.
I feel like I don't eat thatmuch during the day anymore at
all.

(00:31):
Yeah, I do it on purpose now alittle bit, though.
So it's more of the animatedfasting then that you're doing,
yeah, but like super intentionalabout it, like well, I think,
yeah.
Yeah, I said last time aboutnot really, uh, eating during
work, like you know through,know through, well, I work all
day, but like I guess like aneight-hour span, eight or
nine-hour span.
Yeah, I do that on purpose now.

Speaker 1 (00:51):
Okay, for sure.
And do you feel like the day'sgoing by fast when you're
working all day?

Speaker 2 (00:58):
now I don't know, I think I'm just starting to get
used to it.
Yeah, I think I'm starting toget used to it.
I usually just have a timer setfor like a three-hour time span
and then, after the timer goesall the way down to three hours,
then I'll take like a littlebreak and then I'll hop back on

(01:19):
and do three hours and thenafter this then I'll do like
another three hours.
It's just easier to kind ofmanage the time that way
understood.

Speaker 1 (01:28):
Yeah, then just sitting there, how?

Speaker 2 (01:29):
how are you?

Speaker 1 (01:30):
doing.
I'm doing good.
Um, true, I feel like I wasjust talking to my aunt not too,
not too long ago, because, um,I went to church and I talked to
her and then I had to workright afterwards and then she's
like you're the hardest personworking out here.
And then I was like, when Ithought about it, I was like,

(01:56):
yeah, you know, I get donedriving for Uber at three in the
morning.
Then you know I rest up, get upfor church starts.
Then you know I rest up, get upfor church starts, bible study
starts at 10.
Then church don't get out tillreally about 1230.
And you know I take care of mygranny.
So I got to get her stuff andthen I was doing her bills and

(02:20):
then going through her mail,making sure you know we went
through everything, and thengoing to work.
Yeah, well, but yeah, butnonetheless, and that was three
day man, you know, but my girlcould mmm yeah, so it was good
beef tips, mashed potatoes andbroccoli okay yeah, absolutely
so and then we chilled becausethere's a new.

(02:40):
Yeah, it be feeling goodsometimes.
Come on, get a good meal.

Speaker 2 (02:43):
Yeah, absolutely yeah yeah, so.

Speaker 1 (02:46):
And then we chilled Because there's a new season of
Last of Us.
Have you watched Last of Us?

Speaker 2 (02:50):
Last of Us.
I don't know what that is.

Speaker 1 (02:52):
Last of Us.
It's like an apocalypse show.

Speaker 2 (02:55):
Yeah, okay, self-explanatory yeah yeah, yeah
.

Speaker 1 (02:59):
Yeah, so it's a zombie apocalypse show.
It's based off of the game Lastof Us.
Yeah.
Yeah, so pretty much the it'slike fungus, so it's a fun.
Guy takes over the, the bodyand then it spreads, and you

(03:21):
know, of course, like a zombie.
So if you get bit then you canbe taken over.
But this one girl was I'm kindof somewhere up a part of the
season for you, but she findsout that she was her mom got bit
while she was giving birth.
So she's, uh, immune to the ohthe fungus taking over her body.

(03:42):
So she still can get torn apart.
But if she gets bit, nothing itwon't affect her.
So now she what people feel likeshe's the key to survival yeah,
yeah yeah, and so you know heit's the kind of journey with
him and this, uh, the main,other main character, uh, older
man, because she's like 14.
Jack, kind of journeying around.

(04:04):
Of course, what they say, ofcourse it's not always worrying
about the zombie, but you got toworry about the people as well.
I was talking to my girl.
I was like I'm taking thatbecause I got to test the next
position.
I was like I'm taking the nextposition.
She was like duh, of courseyou're going to have better

(04:24):
chances if you have a gas caryeah, I thought about that, yeah
yeah, like very, very true, umso.
So that's funny.
They even said that, becauseelon musk uh, the cyber truck is
is like people feel like it's apocket, lift a car, but really
it's still charging you knowthat's gonna be one of the first
ones to go yeah, yeah, yeah,it's bulletproof, so you, you

(04:47):
could be good for a certainextent yeah, yeah yeah, but no,
you can't really go no fartherthan it's over 400 miles.
And if everything, shut downthe grid, shut down your screw
it's over.

Speaker 2 (04:57):
Yeah, I, I thought about that with cars.
I was like, damn, you know, Iwould love to have, and usually
for some reason they be, they befew, the, the electric vehicles
them house be looking sofuturistic.
Yeah, like I was looking upaudis yesterday and like one of
the newest electric out.
That shit looked like it's froma movie like 20 years from now

(05:20):
and it looks so cool, but alsolike bruh if the shit go down.
What the fuck is this for?
There's no reason to have this.

Speaker 1 (05:33):
Yeah, but I guess you know if fuel pumps don't work
and things like that.
But there's so many, you cancycle fuel from other vehicles.

Speaker 2 (05:41):
You can really go.

Speaker 1 (05:42):
I guess it depends on how you look at things.
I ain't no electrician or noengineer that can figure that
out, but um a bicycles bicyclesyeah, bikes and gas cars yeah,
that's where it's at yeah, yeah,so uh, it got me that we're
talking about apocalypse, andhow do you think you'll fare in

(06:03):
apocalypse?
How do you think?
Your affair in Apocalypse.

Speaker 2 (06:05):
How do I think what?

Speaker 1 (06:05):
Your affair like make it, would you feel like you'll
do well?

Speaker 2 (06:10):
I'll do.
I need to learn some shit.

Speaker 1 (06:16):
That race so silly ain't gonna get you far.

Speaker 2 (06:18):
That race, so silly, ain't gonna get me there.
Matter of fact, that shit gonnafuck me up even more.

Speaker 1 (06:22):
I can edit your videos.

Speaker 2 (06:25):
Yeah, it's gonna me up even more.
I can edit your videos.
Yeah, that's gonna me up evenmore.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, gonna ride meoff the strength just being so
silly yeah, yeah, yeah I got you, but uh, no, there, there's
this book that I I'm actuallyjust because you said that like
I'm gonna get this book thisweek but there's this book.
It's like a survival book andit shows you like everything
like how to make water, how torecycle stuff, how to uh, uh,

(06:47):
yeah, like out of air damn.

Speaker 1 (06:49):
Yeah, that's like very futuristic yeah, the world
ends.

Speaker 2 (06:53):
There's a book for it .
So, uh yeah, how to cook stuff,how to like, just just
literally a survival guide, afood network cookbook,
everything shut down well.
I know how to make some lasagna, no, but um, that whole fat you

(07:14):
know what I mean.
Like I'm talking about thatbook.

Speaker 1 (07:16):
It's gonna be, it's gonna be how to make water, how
to make meals and survive it'sgot everything in there.

Speaker 2 (07:23):
I did one thing.
I don't know why I haven'tgotten it.

Speaker 1 (07:24):
Yeah, that would help so you don't really need to
learn how to survive wheneverything right, right, what
you mean?

Speaker 2 (07:31):
like when everything good, yeah, when everything good
, I ain't even thinking about it.
But when amazon shut down andthe world shut down, I'm gonna
be.
I don't want to say I'm gonnabe fucked, but let's just say.
Let's just say pre-book versuspost-book, that would be two
different outcomes for me.
I feel like.
So, since we're in pre-bookright now, I don't know how long

(07:51):
, I don't know.
Man, I got a survival mindset,though you know I'm good in
terms of not giving up andtrying to figure out how to do
shit and ration and all thattype of shit.
I'm good on that aspect.

Speaker 1 (08:09):
But Do you think you could Kill a zombie easily?

Speaker 2 (08:12):
Kill a zombie I ain't never seen one.

Speaker 1 (08:14):
No, I'm just saying, actually I have.

Speaker 2 (08:17):
Niggas on meth.

Speaker 1 (08:19):
Oh, okay.

Speaker 2 (08:20):
Yeah, that's the closest you gonna get.
Them motherfuckers are strong.

Speaker 1 (08:23):
Yeah, you know from experience.

Speaker 2 (08:27):
I didn't get to fight him off but, like you know, got
robbed by one and he wasn'tscared of anything, Nothing.

Speaker 1 (08:34):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (08:36):
He wasn't scared of nothing.

Speaker 1 (08:38):
Literally.
That is actually crazy.

Speaker 2 (08:41):
I forgot about that, yeah nah, he wasn't scared of
shit.
Yeah, yeah.
So yeah, I would assume azombie actually crazy, you know,
I forgot about that.
Yeah, nah, he wasn't scared ofshit, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (08:46):
So yeah, I would assume a zombie is something
like that yeah yeah, that'spretty hard to be, you know he's
a zombie, you know, becauseit's different, because people
offer drugs it's a little bitdifferent.
You don't want to kill thembecause you know they'll come
back to life fairly regular.
But if every, if the world youknow goes to hell and you know
that zombies exist, I feel likeit'll be kind of easy to kill,

(09:06):
cause some easy to kill, likenot like easier to kill a zombie
than a nigga on meth.
No, I'm saying like.
I'm saying like rationalizingyour mind I'm killing the man,
that's not.
I'm not saying like thedifficulty of stabbing him to
death, I'm saying likerationalizing your mind.
Oh.
Hey I difficulty of stabbinghim to death I'm saying like

(09:28):
ratcheting on your mind oh hey,I, I can, I need to drop him.

Speaker 2 (09:29):
Oh yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Okay, so yeah, just not justjust just second nature to be
like all right, like an ant likean ant, yeah, all right exactly
.
Get this man out the backyardyeah I could see that.
Yeah, I'm not caring about anyof them.
What if one of them was yourfamily member?

Speaker 1 (09:48):
you getting dropped two times as fast I know where
to hit you.

Speaker 2 (09:53):
I know your weak spots and everything I know.
You got a bad leg.

Speaker 1 (09:56):
I mean I feel bad cause, like damn.
What if the cure came prettyquickly?
You know what I mean as soon asyou drop the ass that's already
self-defense and it depends,because there's the thing about
the uh last of us versus likewalking dead.
The last of us, they, they, I,I feel like faster than they was

(10:19):
as humans, uh-huh yeah yeah,say they move for real oh yeah,
yeah yeah, so you ain't justeasily like just punch one or
stab one in the head and theykeep on moving.
nah, bruh, because you know,like the walking dead I'm sure
you've seen the walking deadthey like you know you can stab
them real quick and it's it'snot until they all just really

(10:40):
kind of huddle around you towhere you can't do nothing about
it.
But then that one can movearound and get you yeah.

Speaker 2 (10:49):
I ain't trying to see that?

Speaker 1 (10:51):
Of course not.
No, that's man, that'd be crazy.

Speaker 2 (10:54):
I wonder if there is something there's got to be
something that can make humansdo that, Because niggas, when
people get rabies they be likedifferent.

Speaker 1 (11:04):
Yeah, when humans do it.

Speaker 2 (11:06):
I only saw it in a movie, yeah.

Speaker 1 (11:08):
I say humans, when animals yeah, they be like
they're more aggressive.
Uh-huh.
Yeah, and also they start, theytwitch and like have you seen a
raccoon on rabies from theRaccoon on rabies no.
Yeah, on YouTube, like they'llstart glitching and seizing up
and be weird, very weird, therewas actually a raccoon at our

(11:30):
church.

Speaker 2 (11:35):
I'm sorry, I don't know.
I wasn't expecting that.

Speaker 1 (11:40):
Alright he was sizing people up at the altar.
So, nah, no, it was in theattic.
Uh, so my mentor there was, um,because one the church would
either like you have the heat onbut it wouldn't get hot you
know, yeah, it was in or viceversa.

(12:01):
And then at first it was like,all right, the church is just
not, it's older, it's not energyefficient.
And then you know they come upthere because that's the work we
do, what my mentor does.
What is so funny?

Speaker 2 (12:13):
because you got to lead into a story.
Well, you starting the story.
I'm saying so that that thatthe ac was like tripping yeah
and then y'all finna, go upthere and find this crazy ass
cracker.

Speaker 1 (12:28):
I didn't go up anywhere, yeah, go ahead, so I'm
just telling the story as he'stelling it to me.
And then so.
But as I know, because I go tothe church and we're obviously
not receiving hate, but I'mthinking it's just older weather
and stuff I know we did work upthere before but I was like it
shouldn't be like this.
We did better things.

(12:48):
But come to find out there islike big gaping holes open, like
the, the uh duck.
You know, a big old duck linewas split open and so there's
like dang you know, like justwhat's going on, just not
thinking anything of it, like weneed to replace these or, you
know, seal them up as best as wecan and then so they come out.

(13:10):
You know, one of the workers islike, hey, there's something up
here.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And then you see these peeringeyes looking at him.
Yeah yeah, yeah.
So they're like oh shoot,that's a raccoon.
So the raccoon in the winterwas ripping up the ducks because
that's what's heat was comingout, so it could feel better.
Yeah, yeah.
But then so they kind of kindof knocked on the ceiling and

(13:34):
kind of let it out a certainpath.
Long story short, and thatthing was big as hell.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Why it let out?
They climbed down the ladder uhand then they sealed it back up
the patch.
I wonder what it was eating Ithink no, it was coming to and
from so oh, he was living in thechurch I mean shoot.

(13:57):
It was like you know, sleepinghere by night and going out by
day yeah, yeah and then you knowwe got trash stuff.
It could be munching on thetrash.

Speaker 2 (14:06):
Yeah, yeah, sunday is the best day, yeah yeah, yeah,
you got soul food Sunday.
Yeah, soul food Sunday man.

Speaker 1 (14:15):
So he was very much living and chilling for real.

Speaker 2 (14:18):
Shit, yeah, yeah, that's crazy.

Speaker 1 (14:20):
Yeah, yeah, but the zombie apocalypse?
You know, I think it's you knowbetter to huddle up.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Fivepeople, you know.

Speaker 2 (14:30):
Yeah, you're definitely going to.
You cannot be by yourself.
Yeah, yeah, no, fucking zombieapocalypse.

Speaker 1 (14:34):
Last podcast we talked about it and it was like
I'm going to get my girl.
I'm like bruh, this is zombieapocalypse.
You going all the way tomurfreesboro.

Speaker 2 (14:46):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, to get her to come back.

Speaker 1 (14:47):
What do you mean?
Like, because that's where hewas living at the time who um
tape oh, uh-huh yeah, yeah, hewas like I'm going to get my
girl and like, yeah oh, oh yeah,I think that's a bad idea.
I'm just saying.
It's like you, gotta, you'regoing through a zombie
apocalypse just to get her.
You better hope she come to youyou're right.

(15:08):
Oh my god and then, and then,y'all fend for yourselves and
it's just you the whole waythere yeah, yeah, I think he
Will Smith.

Speaker 2 (15:18):
Michael B Jordan.

Speaker 1 (15:18):
Yeah, I swear, yeah, yeah, yeah, that'll be lit.
Are they supposed to come outwith it?
Yeah, okay.

Speaker 2 (15:25):
I Am Legend 2.

Speaker 1 (15:26):
That would be hard.

Speaker 2 (15:27):
Now they coming out with.
They accepted Will Smith backin Hollywood with Open Arms,
Open Arms.
He got.
Men in.
Black coming out.

Speaker 1 (15:38):
He finna shoot that.
I didn't really care for the.
I tried to watch the last one.

Speaker 2 (15:43):
I'm not the big, I don't even remember it yeah me
neither.
Yeah, last one I remember wasthe one with the woman, the
octopus woman I don't evenremember that oh well, yeah, and
he had some girl, rose, rose,rosaria, oh, god rosie something
dawson something.

Speaker 1 (16:02):
Yeah, she was fine yeah, she was definitely fine,
yeah, but uh, because he, Iremember he was on, uh, will
smith was on drink champs he waslike yeah, I watched like 20
minutes of it okay, he said that.
You know a lot of people didn'twant to do features with him.
I didn't know that yeah, yeah,exactly who I don't know.
I don't.
He didn't name the people.

Speaker 2 (16:22):
They didn't want it because of what they couldn't
have been slapping.

Speaker 1 (16:26):
Yeah, that's what he was saying.
Most rappers would love to jumpon that he said artists.
He didn't say rappers.
Okay, yeah, yeah, and maybe Isaid rappers, but he said
artists, so depending on whothat was.

(16:47):
Also, it was funny he he wastelling the story about how, um,
he had got off the internet forfive or six months and how
people was really going in onhim and he did.
He only knew a couple people.
That kind of went in on him andthen he was telling the story
about how his homeboy charliemack was.
Uh, he was about to shake upwith one dude like hey, what's
going on and then he's liketrying to uh-uh.
He's like that's so.
So, nah, yeah, yeah, because hewas one of the ones who was

(17:08):
going in on him oh so his friendwas like no, don't don't shake
up with him, uh, because he wastalking about you, yeah, exactly
oh, damn, yeah, damn yeah,exactly so.
so I'm saying open arms that youknow ain't that fully open, it
ain't wide open, but it's open.

Speaker 2 (17:26):
Yeah, well, I guess what I meant is just Hollywood
money-wise, not necessarilyindividuals he used to interact
with.

Speaker 1 (17:34):
I guess I got you, yeah, but he's going to have
opportunities.
I mean, he just slapped a manon TV.

Speaker 2 (17:39):
Yeah, I mean it?
Was the craziest thing ever, Imean absolutely, absolutely.

Speaker 1 (17:48):
But I'm saying when it all boils down to it, it's
not the most unreprehensiblething you could have ever done
in your life.

Speaker 2 (17:52):
Yeah, no, I don't even feel a way for it.
I don't even think about itwhen I look at his videos and
stuff, even when that popped up,I don't even think about it.

Speaker 1 (18:04):
I do a little bit really yeah, yeah, how does he
feel?
Because, that is veryembarrassing though it's.

Speaker 2 (18:12):
It seems like he is embarrassed that people got to
see that side of him, notembarrassed for slapping him
yeah, yeah yeah, I feel like hemeant that shit yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (18:24):
Yeah, he definitely meant that shit.

Speaker 2 (18:25):
Also there was something a long time ago where
somebody it was either a skit orthis actually happened.
It was the exact same thing.
Or somebody walking on the, orit was in a movie or something.
Somebody walking on stage atlike some grand you know thing
where they get awards and allthis, and like somebody got
slapped, and it was damn nearlike the exact same thing.

(18:47):
So a part of me feels like inmy little conspiracy, part of my
mind feels like damn, I wonderif, like that shit was just like
a play for the people.
You know, sometimes I thinkabout that.

Speaker 1 (19:03):
But I don't know.
Yeah, I doubt it.
Yeah, but I mean, if you're,but then again, how do I really
know?

Speaker 2 (19:12):
Yeah, it was too perfect too.

Speaker 1 (19:13):
Yeah, yeah, because nobody talks about the August
Housina stuff too.
So I guess, which means Like atfirst he was getting a lot of
heat for the August Housina JadaPickett Smith stuff.

Speaker 2 (19:25):
Well, I mean a lot of heat for the august house even
jada pickett smith stuff.

Speaker 1 (19:27):
Well, I mean, he, he got heat for anything dealing
with jada, yeah, but now it'sall focused on him and that,
unless jada pinky at this point,don't you think, or no?

Speaker 2 (19:34):
yeah, I think people are tired of talking about jada
for real I think, I think it'slike the same story for real.
It's like every time.
It's usually like the samestory for it.
It's like every time it'susually she does something that
the masses don't necessarilyagree with.
And then it's the second partto that, which is you kind of

(19:56):
like look over to the side atwill and like what does he think
about this?
And like that has been a cyclefor so many years.
I feel like it's kind of like akanye thing where, like when
kanye do something crazy, thenyou're just like all right, bro,
that's kanye.
I feel like that's kind of howpeople are treating this whole
thing, do you?

(20:17):
I wonder what happened with redtable talk though.

Speaker 1 (20:19):
Oh, it got discontinued because facebook
stopped doing their contentstuff oh, oh.

Speaker 2 (20:24):
So they was like oh ain't no money in this bit, and
they pull it out, yeah, yeahlike we don't really.

Speaker 1 (20:30):
Yeah, it's not as profitable as we would like, but
they tried to get in thecontent game a little heavy they
got in there I mean, I mean inin their own way, like um the
own tv content or show content.
So they tried it.
It wasn't really for them.
And they did that withdifferent things, like have you

(20:51):
ever heard of Poke by Facebook?
No.
Exactly, that was their versionof Snapchat.
No.

Speaker 2 (21:01):
Yeah, so they tried to I remember you could poke
people 's what I thought?

Speaker 1 (21:07):
no no, no, no, it was um.
It was their version ofsnapchat no, I didn't know that
yeah, yeah and um.
So they tried that.
That failed.
They really thought they wasgoing to bring snapchat to the
ground as like they did.
Reels, or was that?
Uh, not reels?
Thread Vine, I'm saying it.

Speaker 2 (21:25):
Oh, they killed.

Speaker 1 (21:26):
Vine.

Speaker 2 (21:28):
Oh, instagram, yeah, and they had by Instagram.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Vine did get killed.

Speaker 1 (21:35):
Yeah, exactly yeah.
And then they tried to do thatwith Twitter, with threads.
Uh-huh, because you created athread account.
Is it popping?
I don't be on threads I don'tknow why.

Speaker 2 (21:48):
I, I don't know, I, I don't understand.
I understand that realm like Iwas in that way of thinking when
I was in college for maybe likea year or two.
I don't understand people, evenon facebook, if you take away
the photos and memes and allthis stuff and then you're just
like refreshing your feed andpeople are just saying things.

Speaker 1 (22:11):
Well, I mean that's what my space was about really
for real, don't you think,because it was all in the big
and um we were in the three.

Speaker 2 (22:19):
I thought we just went to people's pages.

Speaker 1 (22:24):
Yeah, but they had to be doing something.
They had pictures in the post,they had your top favorites.

Speaker 2 (22:31):
Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah .

Speaker 1 (22:33):
And then you message each other.

Speaker 2 (22:34):
That ain't the same thing.
I'm saying, that's like, that'slike an individual Preference.

Speaker 1 (22:43):
Okay, what am I missing there?

Speaker 2 (22:45):
As in.
Like you go to a certain page.

Speaker 1 (22:48):
No, I agree with MySpace, you're right.

Speaker 2 (22:50):
Yeah, yeah, no, no, no, I meant you go to your news
feed and it's nothing but myday's going well, man.
Fuck my parents.
Hey, trump is crazy.
When it's just words.
I don't understand how peopleget caught up in it and like,
are on that all day.
I don't understand that.

Speaker 1 (23:08):
I mean words, mean something though.

Speaker 2 (23:12):
Yeah, I just I don't see how these things are still
this big.
My, my mind doesn't like like.
I made a thread account and itwas cool, but I I got bored with
it very quickly because it wasTwitter.

Speaker 1 (23:28):
Yeah, exactly yeah.

Speaker 2 (23:30):
Well, I'm just not a Twitter guy.
I guess that's all it is.

Speaker 1 (23:33):
Yeah, yeah, yeah I mean, but Twitter, facebook is
more than just words.
They have videos attached to ittoo.

Speaker 2 (23:41):
Yeah, I don't know man, I don't know, I guess I'm
just not hip to it.
It, I don't know man, I don'tknow, I, I guess I'm just not
like hip to it.
It doesn't like.

Speaker 1 (23:48):
it doesn't make me stay on there yeah, I mean, I
don't have, I'm not on facebooklike that, I'm really not on
really all social media likethat for real, so um.
So, at the end of the point, Idefinitely get what you're
saying, but I can see theattachment of facebook.
I mean the allure, I mean thiscontent.
People post videos on facebookthey also post what they're

(24:12):
doing.
They post pictures that it'sjust multi-platform things that
you can look on facebook yeah,it is, it is I.

Speaker 2 (24:19):
I will say that it is , and maybe it's just not my
thing, I don't know when.
It's mostly because instagramis in facebook kind of sort of
now.
It's like the opposite.
It's like it's not mostly wordsor quotes, it's mostly videos
and photos, yeah, so I think I Ijust naturally gravitate more

(24:39):
toward that I don't know.
I mean yeah, yeah, because Imean also also, that's the, the
scope that you come from yeahI'm saying, even when I was in
it, like in college with twitterand all that I used to, I used
to like yeah actually I used toreally be on there and then it
just faded out yeah, yeah, andI'm just saying like, but

(25:02):
journalists they Twitter.

Speaker 1 (25:04):
They're probably less likely on Instagram because
they're more of writers.
Bloggers, I'm sure are onTwitter more.
So, I'm just saying the scopeof where you come from, where
you do video and photographywell that's just going to be
where you land in it.
Journalists are going to landon Twitter.
You know I don't.
Facebook is just you know it's.

(25:24):
Facebook is just you know it'sjust the og so everybody's on it
and that's just a way you keepup with family and things along
the line, because your grannyprobably on it you know what I
mean?
Yeah, yeah you can messagefamily quickly yeah, it's a lot,
yeah, exactly but then it'smessy, so you enjoy the
messiness of it because peopleare dogging their family out.

Speaker 2 (25:44):
Yeah, yeah, I definitely associate Facebook
with more of a a hood way oflife.
Um, yeah, yeah, it's definitelymore family-oriented.
Yeah, I think Instagram is morelike flashy.
Yeah.
Like popularity contests.

(26:06):
Yeah, exactly, Uh-huh.

Speaker 1 (26:08):
And you can really kind of be it and you know your
Facebook profile is very muchyour profile.

Speaker 2 (26:14):
You know what I mean?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (26:17):
So you're Justin Smith're, you're justin smith,
or excuse?
Me right, right yeah and soyeah, yeah, you could be
whatever your username.

Speaker 2 (26:24):
Your username ain't your name that is facts, that is
fact yeah, so you're this wholedifferent person for real that
is not whole different, but yeah, that's a part of yourself,
that's actually you?
Yeah, exactly, that's a fact.
Actually I've done that before,where I'll post something.
Maybe I did this like years ago, but I'll post something and

(26:48):
then let's say like a cute girlwould like respond or some shit,
but she ain't got no picturesand I got to check to see if she
real, so I would just type hername in Facebook.

Speaker 1 (26:56):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2 (26:59):
And see what pops up.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, 100 factcheck.
Yeah, exactly, it's factchecking exactly.

Speaker 1 (27:05):
So that's how I know if I meet you on the street.
And then you add me as a friendon facebook, I was like, all
right, I got like one of themost common names in america, so
you was really searching for me.
Oh god, oh god, I have donethat before people.

Speaker 2 (27:18):
I guess people do do that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it helps outa lot.
They got like the area code intheir bio oh they got the area
code like something, something615 like uh, nashville, all

(27:50):
right, nashville, keisha johnson, there she is two kids?
Okay, yep, nobody.
That shit that got um.
It's like it could show youwho's following, who you're
following or who you followedthe latest.
Uh, you know what I'm sayingyeah, I don't.

Speaker 1 (28:06):
So how does it?
Is it an app that tracks that,or it's?

Speaker 2 (28:10):
no, it's literally just on there so anytime you
follow somebody, nigga bro, it'slike you can't even be curious
for real like if you're no youcan be curious, but I'm saying
that I've learned that from awoman like would look at my
profile and she's like I see whoyou following.

Speaker 1 (28:30):
I'm like oh, okay how .

Speaker 2 (28:33):
And then one day I realized how they do it and they
literally just like look atyour following and after the
people that um you mutuallyfollow you mutually follow.
It's literally the last peoplethat you followed, so they could
track that shit oh, okay yeah,that's like bruh well, it sounds

(28:54):
like you shouldn't be followingnobody, no more.
That's what I be feeling likesometimes, like now.
It's like I'm so hesitant.

Speaker 1 (29:01):
Now you gotta unfollow them and then follow
the person you want.
Then follow the other personright back.

Speaker 2 (29:08):
What you mean.

Speaker 1 (29:11):
So say it's me on Instagram.
You can unfollow me, thenfollow the person.
That's too targeted.

Speaker 2 (29:19):
I don't know who's gonna look or who I would talk
to that, you know.
But I've I've realized that andI've seen that and I'm like bro
, that's a whole you, youtelling yeah, like you snitching
for real, like who do you befollowing to where they be
feeling that way?
who I let's say, like if I'mtalking to a person yeah and

(29:39):
then let's say let's say that Iwas very close to a person or
just just talking to them allthe time, and then now I don't
talk to them all the time.
And then let's say they wantedto check up on me.
And then they go to my page andthey see oh, this niggas
following this girl, this girl,but I mean, I don't be following
that many women like like letme follow, follow, follow.

(30:01):
I don't do that, but there was atime where if I did follow
somebody, they would know,exactly like one x knew, who the
new girl was oh, you know whatI'm saying.

Speaker 1 (30:12):
Okay, okay, I'm here now yeah, it's like they bro
they stalking the girl you justrecently followed because they
think that's who you're talkingto it's easy money, because then
it's like it ain't nobody afterher.

Speaker 2 (30:24):
Oh, he definitely talking to her.
Yeah, like, oh my god, come on,man, you telling yeah, so.

Speaker 1 (30:30):
so on that relationship because it was like
a jada pickett thing questionthat I kind of did have Like so
when you was in a publicrelationship, could you do you
feel like you would be WillSmith in a way, to where you was
stuck in the actions that shedone because she couldn't be

(30:54):
somewhat controlled?
You know what I mean?
I?
think hmm, and so I'll kind offurther explain.
So Will Smith really couldn'ttell Jada Pickett anything
because she was going to say,regardless whatever she had, or

(31:17):
whether it was to his detrimentor not.
Do you think there?
You know, there was an aspectto what you had to.
Your relationship was like.
You know, hopefully she don'tgo get too wild because, you
know, when I get home it's notlike she me explaining it, it is
going to make it much better, Ithink nowadays.

Speaker 2 (31:40):
No, I think at one point I was creeping on that.
I was creeping on like I don'tknow how far that would be, but
at the same time, like they'relike what, 50 something maybe
yeah, so this is 20 somethingyears probably of it being a

(32:01):
certain way and it kept gettingbigger, bigger, bigger, bigger,
bigger, bigger till it got tohere.
so I feel like nowadays, nah, I,I wouldn't be in a relationship
where it could get.
It could get so far that I'm onyour show and I'm like y'all
was in a relationship.
No, we was like in anentanglement.

(32:24):
I'm walking off the show, I'mcutting this bitch off.
Like I said before, I could seehow I was allowing certain
things in differentrelationships that I probably I
could see how something canstart small and keep getting
bigger and bigger, bigger,bigger for years and years and

(32:44):
years.
And then now you like kind ofstuck in this thing Cause you
told yourself you was committedand now now the commitment is
bigger than how you feel.
Um, I can kind of see how thatcould possibly play out again.
I'm only like 30 something sobut just um, hypothetically
speaking, I can kind of see howthat would be, but nowadays,

(33:06):
like nah man, like certainthings, it's just not worth it,
bro, like that sucks like Idon't know what he's dealing
with, I don't know what theirrelationship is, but, um, it
just seems like it is a verystressful situation as a man and

(33:26):
men go through shit on theirown.
Like you got to work all thefucking time, you got to do this
, this, that to make sure yourfamily's together, and, like you
, you already got your ownstretches and shit, the, the
last, the, the.
The main thing that you want isto come home to a wife that's
just like full of peace and likewill just make you feel like

(33:47):
the world ain't I don't know the, the she balances out the world
that you have to deal withoutside of the home.
That's what I, that's what Iwould want you know.
So, like, if it's not that, andI gotta come home and then like
I to deal with outside of thehome, that's what I would want.
So, if it's not that, and I gotto come home and then I got to
deal with shit, and then I gotto deal with shit in the public
on top of everything, you'reputting that stress on me.

(34:10):
I would assume I can only assumeboth of them was on some shit,
but it seemed like her shit wasmaking him stressed out publicly
right I don't know what he wasdoing behind the scenes if he
was making her ass stressed outI'm sure that's on him, but uh,
that's, that's just.
That's just all we see rightand so to that.

Speaker 1 (34:34):
Do you feel like you can go back into a relationship
and uh, be in a publicrelationship again where you're
kind of somewhat on equalplaying field as popularity goes
uh?

Speaker 2 (34:46):
it's not.
It isn't something that I'mlike wanting right now.
I guess it's like, if ithappens, it happens.
But I would much rather be withsomebody that, like, I could

(35:08):
keep a low profile with and youknow stuff like that, because,
um, the, the, the.
I think the quote is it's likeif you date publicly, you break
up publicly yeah and like thatshit.

Speaker 1 (35:23):
I don't like that shit at all so do you feel like
you had to keep it go deeper,like, regardless of the
situation, you had to keep therelationship going because it
will be a public breakup?

Speaker 2 (35:40):
Are you talking about my past relationship?
Yeah, did I feel like that?
No, I never thought about otherpeople.
No, I never thought about otherpeople.
I knew that was always going tobe a thing, like even to this
day.
I'm not a guy who wants to belooked at like while I'm outside
and it's cool if somebody likewalks up to me.

(36:02):
It's like a respectful thing.
But also, still, even ifsomebody does that the rest of
the time I'm in the store, Iknow that this nigga's looking
at me.
Yeah, you know Like.
I don't like thinking aboutstuff like that, yeah, I get it.
So you know, like I don't likethinking about stuff like that.

(36:23):
So you know, yeah, so I don'tnormally think about other
people, or I didn't think aboutother people, but in the end I
always knew what I signed up for, which is?
It's just, it's kind of like agift and a curse thing.
It's like you can get a wholebunch of praise.
It's kind of like a gift and acurse thing.
It's like you can get a wholebunch of praise.
But shit, if I have a badargument with my girl and it

(36:48):
just so happens to be somewhereand somebody across the street
recognizes it's me or her, andthen we record it and now we on
Shade Room and now you know.
So it's kind of like I knowthat I signed up for this, so
it's kind of like acceptingwhatever happens, which is kind
of what happened.
Like I had a.
A pay is still hacked, I don'teven know how to get this back,

(37:10):
but they be posting, um, I don'tknow if they still do now, but
like they did for like a yearand a half straight I don't know
if they still do now, but likethey did for like a year and a
half straight kept posting meand my ex, like on the page over

(37:32):
and over, even the engagementphotos and like all that stuff,
like over and over and over andover.
So like there were times whereI would speak to somebody new
and then it'll be like a weeklater.
It'll be like a week later.
First of all, these girls aredefinitely I don't know they,
they be letting stuff slide.
Because they be letting stuffslide at least a little bit.
If you got a little bit ofclout or something, because I
would, I would.
I remember there was a timewhere I would speak to somebody
and then you know we'll have aconversation or whatever, and

(37:53):
then, like after a week pass,like after a week passed,
they'll say, hey, you know, Ididn't really want to ask, but
like, are you single?
I'm like what?
I'm like we've been talking fora week.
And then she's like, oh yeah,no, I mean, it's cool, I was

(38:20):
just wondering because, like Isaw you and your fiance being
posted on that, I'm like hold up.
First of all you thought that Iwas still with her, you were
still talking to me, and thenyou know, but it's all that shit
comes with it.
So I didn't do that for people,but it is, it is a thing.
So that's something that Ialways think about.
I'm like damn like, if you getwith somebody and it's in the

(38:41):
public eye, you like kind ofannounce it y'all this is my
girl now and then if both y'allgot some clout or whatever, the
first initial thing is, oh mygod, they're so cute together.
Oh, it's just inevitable withwhoever you with, no, they're so
cute together.
They, oh, they're so happy andoh, they're so happy.
And then that bruise.
But it's also developingsomething that kind of lasts

(39:04):
after a breakup and I don't know.
It could be annoying, it couldbe annoying.

Speaker 1 (39:12):
Understood Do you feel like that the content that
you put out and how great it isthat you can't live up to that
man.
To what To the content that youare if that makes sense Like

(39:33):
Will Smith, how he had toportray and be somebody who he
wasn't ultimately inside.
You know what I?
Mean wasn't ultimately inside.
You know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (39:46):
Um then you have to like, oh, now that you're with
somebody.

Speaker 1 (39:48):
They see your flaws versus.
They think of this whole visionof who you are in their head um
, I can kind of tell what I if.

Speaker 2 (40:02):
If I were to talk to somebody on a romantic level, it
would usually be I would onlyallow a certain type of person
to be like, actually intimatewith, and like romantic and
actually with if I know for afact steven can be vulnerable

(40:24):
with them.
So I don't even allow like Imight I don't know like have
conversations or some shit likethat with certain people.
But like some people you couldjust tell it's like they want.
They want the guy with 600 or amillion followers or whatever.

(40:49):
They want that dude and thatwith the glitz and glamour of
what it looks like, I guess, orwhatever they have in their head
really, because I'm justhopping in movies, but them they
see a successful guy and allthat.
If they make that shit up intheir head, you could tell who
wants that person versus like ohno, he's like a really cool guy

(41:12):
.
I would actually love to talkto him.
Okay, I got you.
Yeah, so I don't really allowthose type of people to be very
close to me.

Speaker 1 (41:21):
I get it of people to be like very close to me, I get
okay.
So do you find it hard notusing the clout influence you
have through social media toyour advantage?
We're meeting somebody onpublic that you do like that may
not know who you are, becauseit is at the end of the day, it

(41:42):
is a tool that you have it's alittle super flex yeah, like you
know, I was like bruh it's likeyou can either, you know, use a
hammer to bang down a door oryou use one of them, uh, those
battering rams.
You know, it's like all right,bro, like I have a battering ram
and I'm choosing very much notto use it.

Speaker 2 (42:02):
You know what I mean.
I don't like the first of all.
I don't go out much so I don'twrite.
I don't like date around andall that for real, um, uh, but I
don't usually do that at first.
I don't usually do that atfirst Like I know.
I know that's like, that's likethe secret, like the secret

(42:25):
move I got, or the, the, the,pokemon, that's the big joker,
the big joke.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know I gotthe big joker and, like you know
, you just meeting somebody andif I think she's cute, or she
thinks I'm cute, or whatever.
And then we're talking and dahdah, dah.
You know, I know as soon aslike what's your Instagram?

(42:48):
It's going to change theenvironment.
You know it's not going to belike I wonder.
I wonder what he's about.
It's going to immediately belike oh, he's this, you know,
and I I kind of don't.
I love it, don't get me wrong.
I definitely love having ajoker there, but I I just play.

(43:10):
I like playing it.

Speaker 1 (43:12):
Well, I'd rather like show that after you realize
like I'm a cool guy okay, so, um, so the other thing is what
they don't ask about yourinstagram and there's, there's
somebody you like, you're,you're in a party, in like a
social gathering I don't evenwant to use the word party, a
social gathering and there's a,uh, a cute girl that you see

(43:35):
yeah but guys also like her,like her as well, so they're
fighting for that attention andthen you're like all right, this
is the thing that sets me apartfrom everybody else the big
joker yeah, yeah, yeah but she's, she's very much feeling, you
know she's.
You can't tell which way thewind go goes.
You know she may be feeling oneguy, you don't know oh yeah,

(43:56):
yeah.
So are you willing to use thatbig joker?
And I was like, hey, follow meon instagram, what's your name?
Uh, nah, okay, no, I think it'sa little cap with that.

Speaker 2 (44:06):
No, I wouldn't do that okay yeah, because because
now I'm like to me, now I'mdesperate yeah, but it's
somebody you really like and youknow I don't I don't want no
woman like that, though I youmaybe I used to, but like I
don't, I like women who like me.

Speaker 1 (44:20):
Yeah, they may like you, but you got to very much
work for that.

Speaker 2 (44:26):
If I got to like work for it like that, then I'm not
throwing out my Instagram likethat.

Speaker 1 (44:33):
Oh okay, so you're comfortable with losing
something?
Yeah yeah, yeah no.

Speaker 2 (44:38):
I'm comfortable with losing because it's like I just
learned now that the girls wholike you it's just a way better
outcome.
So like, if I'm at a event, asocial event, and you take
Instagrams and all that away,you're still going to be treated
way better.
That girl that you're talkingabout, I'm going to have to

(45:00):
chase her, even after, after theeffects of the, the, the page
and all that goes down, I'mstill gonna have to chase her a
little bit just because, likeshe didn't see me and was like I
like him do you like chasing orno?
I like, I like.

(45:23):
It's like a two-part answer One, no, and two, if I know for a
fact that you like me, like alot, I would like to show you
effort of showing you that Ilike you.
So if it's a situation of Idon't know if you like me the

(45:45):
same and I gotta chase you to totry to get you to see that, I
don't like that.
I used to do that okay, yeah,um, yeah, I'm like I said, I'm
way now.
I like people who like me, butit's life bro.

Speaker 1 (46:02):
Way better life that way Okay, but I think and I'm
asking, the chase and initiativeare two separate things.
Like initiative, is you askingher out on a date?
Yes my initiative is you askingher out on a date?

(46:28):
Yes, chasing is like she reallyain't feeling me and I'm kind
of, you know, really convincingher.
I'm trying to convince her tolike me.

Speaker 2 (46:33):
Yeah, exactly yeah no , I don't know not that so like
that could be one in the sameyou know of you, um, asking a
girl on a date man it's like avenn diagram.

Speaker 1 (46:43):
Like they meet up and there's like you know what a
venn diagram is, where you havethe two circles and two circles
and both the similarities are in, you know, in a intertwined in
that one circle.
But yeah, so it's like a venndiagram, I'm sure a chasing
initiative, um how do you feelabout that?

Speaker 2 (47:00):
like if you were at a party and well, I don't got no
big joker you got a Tesla.

Speaker 1 (47:07):
I've never alright.

Speaker 2 (47:08):
Well, let's say, everybody outside got this.
This is three niggas with bikesand is one dude with a Honda
and is you with the Tesla.
And she says, as soon as youwalk in, you got a girlfriend.
But yeah, no, but we can stillplay it as all right so and then

(47:30):
, as soon as you walk in, yousee a girl you like damn, like
she's really cute, and the firstthing she says is oh my god, I
just love a nigga with a tesla Iswear to god, I just love a
nigga with a Tesla.
Well, excuse me, it's the samesetting and you don't know who
she's feeling.
You don't know anything.
What would you do?

Speaker 1 (47:49):
Yeah.
So look at my Tesla app and seehow much it's charging right
now.
But you know what's funny, Ididn't know.
So the Tesla I got it becauseit qualified for Uber Black and
I want an electric vehicle thatqualified for Uber Black because
I didn't have to worry aboutthe maintenance thing,

(48:11):
maintenance attached to it,because it doesn't measure
transmission.
So I was like, let me lease oneand see how I like it.
Oh, that's dope, yeah, yeah,because I don't have to worry
about the maintenance part, themaintenance of it.
Yeah, exactly, all I got is tirerotations and stuff that has to
do with the tires.
So that was the reasoningbehind it.
I didn't look at it all as coolbecause it's not like a

(48:33):
Mercedes or like a.
That's not the mind I had to ituntil I started to use it for
Uber and I realized, oh, peoplefind this as a luxurious vehicle
and you know, now they'recurious, wanting to know.
Now I feel like it's easier asan Uber driver which I did, and

(48:53):
I can't really even say thatbecause the Expedition was
giving me just as much, you know.
But I feel like people wasfalling in love with the Tesla
and it felt like people wasfalling in love with the tesla
and was, and it felt like it wassomewhat easier.
Um, but yeah, so I didn't.
Yeah, I didn't realize thatuntil really later on but yeah I
mean, I I'm very much a longgame person anyway, so like when

(49:22):
I was single, I would be at,like I told you about the place,
the golden door yeah yeah, andthey'll be talking to the
bartenders and being cool withthem and just chatted up and
eventually, you know, forming acool relationship and building
on top of that mm-hmm yeah, soit'll be places like that I'm
using as example, like to, wherepeople frequent the place all

(49:46):
the time to where we can have aconversation, build a friendship
and then go out.
I don't have.
Um, I feel like uber was verygood at making quick dates
because, you know you're in acar, you kind of forced to talk
to somebody.
They're interested in you verymuch off the bat.
You can go, get drinks realquick and go, you know, hang out
with other people.

(50:06):
Yeah so, and so it was.
I always had that.
I mean, I've been doing it foreight or nine years, so my
dating psychology is different.
So I was like I got uber that Ican hang.
I'm sure it's always going tocome, because they always do,
and then I can still build arelationship with the people at

(50:27):
the places I frequent.
Yeah yeah, so my dating aspectis completely different than the
average person.
Like I had tried the datingapps, it did work for me in some
aspects, but I never the peoplethat I really entertained.
I knew that's not who I wantedto marry.

(50:47):
Yeah.
And kind of with Uber for themost part.

Speaker 2 (50:50):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I feel that with the datingapps, I had got off of there.

Speaker 1 (50:58):
Yeah, and yours is kind of way different than what
mine was.
I could you know.
What.
Yeah, yeah, dating apps yeahfor you.

Speaker 2 (51:05):
I mean, even if, like it just felt like it felt like
the people on the dating appswere just like kind of desperate
and I could say the same thingfor me at that time I was lonely
, at that time I wasn't goingoutside, I wasn't whatever.
And I was like bro, let me forme.
At that time I was lonely, atthat time I wasn't going outside
, I wasn't whatever, and I waslike, bro, let me just like, hop

(51:26):
on here, it's easier.
And and I realized that, like Iwas just running into certain
people where, even if we matchedor whatever and we were talking
, it was cool, not 10 times outof 10.
Now, well, I'm gonna say ninetimes out of 10, because I'm
pretty sure there's lovelypeople on these apps, but, um,

(51:49):
nine times out of 10, it'll besomebody that I'm just like.

Speaker 1 (51:52):
I know I ain't finna hang out with this person after
like week three yeah, and alsothat's the thing about uh uber
that that it works to a lot ofpeople, including myself at one
point in time.
Advantage is that the datingapps it's a game.
Uber, that stuff cuts rightthrough the fluff.

Speaker 2 (52:15):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (52:15):
Like y'all hanging out, y'all getting to know each
other.
Immediately hanging out, youget the vibe very quick, you
know what I mean.
Yeah, yeah, I mean.
Of course people can be fooledand also vice versa on apps,
other immediately hanging out.
You get the vibe very quick.
You know what I mean.
Yeah, yeah, like I mean ofcourse people can be fooled, and
also vice versa on apps.
But it's like, all right, I, Iunderstand about this.
Is somebody I want to hang outwith because I never.
I like my job with uber, so Iwas never going to be, and

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they're really the initiatorI've maybe in one time once or
twice literally, and it was, youknow, after having a
conversation that I, you know, Itried to, yeah, but out of nine
years, but every time was inthe street, cuz I never want to
lose my position.
They'll report my you know he'sflirting with me yeah, or make

(53:02):
it uncomfortable or back I'm,I'm getting.
I'm very much a rated system,so yeah, you can put notes or
like feedback.
You know all those things.

Speaker 2 (53:11):
So that's what happened to me.
Yeah, what well?
Not, not, not on the datingside.
But I do remember a coupletimes where I would like it
would happen, like two, let'ssay, like in an hour long ride I
would accidentally uh put, putmy foot on the the brake, like

(53:33):
while on the highway.
Not, and it was nothing crazy,it was just like a small ass
jerk, not even wanting to makeyou do that but it was just like
smart, and this is duringtraffic so not like we hitting
70 and it does that, yeah, andthen I would just apologize just
because, like oh, sorry aboutthat.
And then she's like oh no, it'sfine, I drop her off and I got

(53:55):
like three notes on my shit justlike he stopped and started and
while he was driving.
It was very uncomfortable.

Speaker 1 (54:03):
See, I don't I mean I'm sure I mean one.
There's one for sure that, likeshe was very much a Karen.
Yeah.
Yeah, so, but that was withLyft, and if I report you bad,
if I report you bad, you reportme bad, it cancels out.
So that rating doesn't goattached to it, so she was very

(54:25):
much a Karen and I drove off onher ass.

Speaker 2 (54:28):
Oh, you know, you said that yeah.

Speaker 1 (54:29):
I don't know if I'm talking about her.

Speaker 2 (54:31):
I think you did.

Speaker 1 (54:32):
Yeah, I very much drove off on her ass.
But yeah.
So I knew I was getting a badrating but I was going to rate
her bad but back.
But then she reported he wasdrunk.
Like yeah, I should have didthat then yeah, yeah, I was like
damn I should just canceled it.
But yeah, I did, I did.
She was two rides.
Yeah, I did talk about it, butyeah, it was two.

(54:53):
It was uh, two stops and shewas like brad being a straight b
, but nonetheless yeah yeah, sothat's the thing.
That's's kind of like.
Uber is kind of like a cheatcode for things like that.
It's like speed dating Verymuch speeding, and it's speed
dating because they were thehours in the location.

(55:14):
They've already vetted methrough the Uber app, like
they've seen.
They see the vehicle I'mpicking them up and they see my
profile picture.
They already have an ideaformulated in the head before I
even pick them up uh-huh yeah,and that's very much so because
they be with it immediately.

(55:35):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So I was like okay, yeah, yeah,yeah.
At first it was like it's about.
Sometimes it can be about likeyou're actually a cool dude, but
most of the time they alreadyhave it in their hand.
They're like oh, you're sohandsome, blah, blah, and yeah,
yeah, yeah, they already, theyalready looked you.

Speaker 2 (55:51):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, they already swiped left, yeah
right yeah, like like beforethere before.

Speaker 1 (55:58):
I'm not gonna go go into details, but I've gotten
actual while riding to pick herup a phone call from her.

Speaker 2 (56:06):
Oh, like, okay, Like, hey, what's your sign?

Speaker 1 (56:13):
Quicker than that?
Okay, yeah, very much quickerthan that.
That was never a question.
Uh-huh, yeah, yeah, yeah, oh,my God yeah yeah, yeah.
So that's how.
That's how the cutting throughthe fluff it could be that's
crazy.

Speaker 2 (56:30):
No, dating is.
Dating is a thing I couldn'timagine.
I think speed dating would bekind of cool.
I would like to do that one day, but in the right setting.

Speaker 1 (56:37):
I think hosting it will be great hosting iting it.
Yeah, yeah.
That's why I wanted to get OJto do it.
Host it.

Speaker 2 (56:46):
Host it.
What you mean you was going tothrow your own on the block or
something.

Speaker 1 (56:53):
Like when we first did the podcast and all the
plans I had for it for the firstone, I very much thought it
could be great and big and, likeI wanted, like a place to where
we actually a podcast space butalso like maybe a small event
space, uh-huh.
To where we could do likeevents like speed dating or like

(57:14):
stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (57:15):
Just literally setting it up for your community
.

Speaker 1 (57:18):
I mean, well, it could be a podcast space and
like off in a room, but alsohave, like I told you, like Rose
, this place called Rosemary'sGolden Door.
There are actual houses thatare made into an event space.
Oh yeah.
So, it could be.
It was like something like thatin my mind.
Oh OK.

(57:39):
To where you can build it outand it could be like it don't
have to be nothing crazy, it canbe like 20 people, yeah, yeah,
yeah, yeah, and speed dating andyou know, just have it going
and have OJ host it.
It would have been hilarious,it would have been great, a good
time yeah.
And because I had drove a girlwho was hosting and speed dating
.
Uh-huh speed dating, and so shewas just telling me about how

(58:04):
the thing about it is that thethe some of the people are
continuous like continuous speeddaters, which doesn't sound
like a problem, but they slickslow this is like like me, like,
like like they.
Mine ain't right.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So they're like the girls arelike brad.
This is him again.

(58:24):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (58:25):
Oh it's a turnoff, uh , but I mean they'll have
getting.

Speaker 1 (58:28):
But she's going to again but she's a yeah, but so
the feedback is getting is thatI have the same continuous guys
that are a part of speed datingand it's I'm trying to see a
different flow of people come in.
So I can you know they can saythe same thing about her ass?
they could, yeah, but women,there's the same motherfucking

(58:52):
girl yeah, yeah, yeah, but butthey're, they're, but women
drive that.
That's, they're the driver.
Yeah, yeah of that.
So so they're going to be theone who kind of has a control.
And they say yeah yeah.
When it comes to speed datingyeah yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, men
ain't gonna be.
Yeah, men, are the the onesthat are trying to find the?

(59:15):
Well, they're both trying tofind the partners all right, but
when?
when?
The dating world and the chaseand the culture, women control
that whole thing yeah, I canyeah, it's more acceptable for a
woman to go to.
Like you have ladies, you haveladies nights, women get in free
, like I'm saying, like thatwhole culture, women is, you

(59:37):
know, the, the actual personcontrol.
So they're going to have to saythe men that you're going to
have to deal with whatever thewomen bring, you know what I
mean.
Uh-huh.
Yeah, yeah.
So they kind of say what goes.
So the host is going to leanmore to their feedback than the
other guys.
I'm sure they're going toconsider them.
But you know, I mean guys payfor it.

(01:00:00):
They're going to be the oneswho pay for the whole date.
They're going to be funding thewhole thing On a speed date.
I'm just saying that's how itgoes.
What it's naturally how it goes.
That's chivalry.
So if you go to a bar and it's aspeed dating thing.

(01:00:20):
A woman's going to say do youwant me to buy you a drink?
Who's going to say that?

Speaker 2 (01:00:24):
first, I'm thinking speed dating has nothing to do
with drinks or food.

Speaker 1 (01:00:31):
Speed dating.

Speaker 2 (01:00:32):
Is you go there?
I'm talking to shit, like 20minutes we talking and then we
get up and go.
I'm buying everybody food inthis bitch.

Speaker 1 (01:00:39):
No, the ones you like .
Maybe, hey, can I get her adrink.
You're trying to get her toloosen up the drink gonna come
out after.

Speaker 2 (01:00:46):
The drink will come out when she on the next day, I
don't know how I ain't been.

Speaker 1 (01:00:50):
You know speed dating , I'm just okay, yeah, the place
I was dropping off was a baruh-huh yeah, this is valentine's
day I'd love to.

Speaker 2 (01:00:57):
I'd love to not even really to find anybody, but just
to actually just like do itlike a social thing.

Speaker 1 (01:01:04):
Yeah, yeah, yeah understood yeah, that'll be cool
yeah, yeah, yeah.
But I mean, the baddies ain'treally the ones who really speed
dating absolutely I don't Ihighly doubt it.

Speaker 2 (01:01:16):
Yeah, it's, but it's definitely bartholomew on them
yeah, no, no, I'm just joking Ihave no idea right, the, the,
the, the linebacker friend, theone that fiends off the guys,
yeah, yeah, no, but um, yeah, Idon't that.

(01:01:36):
That's that's what I thoughtabout the dating apps too.

Speaker 1 (01:01:39):
I was like brady girls ain't on here yes, they
are, though oh well shit theyare, but I don't know the amount
of times I hear people goingout and they hear that hinge
notification come up or thatthat it used to be tender
notifications all the time andthey'd be on them, active for
real like very attractive womenthey're pretty yeah well, okay,

(01:02:02):
I mean I'm sure they are.

Speaker 2 (01:02:03):
I just I just haven't .
I deleted mine quick, so Ididn't really like any and are
you talking?

Speaker 1 (01:02:10):
are you talking about the ones back in college days
or?

Speaker 2 (01:02:14):
I'm saying now I I don't think.
I don't think like the quotebaddies, or like the girls who
can walk outside and they canpretty much pick any man they
want, whatever they ain't on ourday naps they definitely are,
for sure.
I'm telling you well shit,maybe you're right I just always
assume that they have so muchplay.

(01:02:34):
Why would I put myself on a dayI could just go outside?

Speaker 1 (01:02:38):
because this era of men don't be aren't the same
aggressive as they used to be inthe past.
Yeah, yeah.
So you know, I mean, as wealways have.
You know, rejection hurts.
It never feels good to beturned down to be said no to in
general.
Yeah.
So, but that's even worse.

(01:02:58):
When you got, I was justlistening to the diary of the
CEO today and there's talkingabout how, like you know, you be
at the gym and like are youlooking at my butt?
You know what I?
Mean yes.
You get ridiculed and killedonline for that?
Yeah, so that's going to.
You're going to internalizethat as a man?

(01:03:19):
Yeah, and then you'd be like,ah, creep, you know what I mean?
That really don't feel good soyou're gonna internalize that or
hear stories of that, see it oninstagram.
Women talk about it.
So you never want to be thatguy, so you're going.
So they're getting.
There's less approach happeningum in and you can face that

(01:03:45):
easier online.
Otherwise you're not going,you're just going to get ghosted
and that's harmless and allthings considered, because
there's a million reasons whyyou can ghost it.
You can interpret it howeveryou want in your head, you can
feel it, but it don't feel asworse as you know, getting
online I mean getting in person.

Speaker 2 (01:04:04):
Or rejecting in person, exactly, yeah, yeah,
yeah, it definitely doesn't feelgood.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:04:10):
But through the spaces.
I mean the person has what theydo, probably Different pictures
of them yeah.
What you mean, like I'm talkingabout on social dating apps.
Then you can look up theirInstagram, get a vibe of who
they are uh-huh so you're doingyour own type of you know

(01:04:30):
investigations yeah reminderwhat you think there and then
you pursue, but there's a lot ofrelations to be built.
I don't, I don't, I don't dogit, but it's the thing about
dating gaps.
It doesn.
It's not a beautiful story, ohjust to tell somebody yeah, yeah
, yeah, yeah, we met on hand.
Which?
Which that matters to me.
That matters Like my.

(01:04:51):
My girlfriend loves our storyLike I think it's a good story
too.

Speaker 2 (01:04:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:04:56):
Yeah, yeah, how we met.

Speaker 2 (01:04:59):
Yeah Versus just yeah .

Speaker 1 (01:05:01):
How we met versus just um yeah or not even how we
met how we dated, cause you knowit's, it stemmed from us going
to high school and then herfriend passed away.
I appeared at her uh, balloonrelease party.
And then and I tell the story,cause, when we're out on dates,
talking to whoever's in front ofus like how did y'all meet?
And then um, whoever's in frontof us like how did y'all meet?

(01:05:28):
And then, um, from there, um no, she, uh, I went out to see her
.
She messaged me.
I didn't do anything with thatmessage until I'm really giving
long story short of it until Imet at she was a bridesmaid at
my cousin's wedding oh yeah yeah, yeah, and then we've been
together ever since yeah, yeah,yeah, I get what you're saying
about those stories.
Oh so it sounds you know morebeautiful term story name you

(01:05:49):
get the all and she loves that.
I like it too.
And if it's just a way, betterstory like hey, yeah, we met on
Instagram, but you also havefirst dates, and how did that?
First date go and that could beall the story.
Yeah, he's actually a.
DM.
But you also have first dates.
And how did that first date go?
And that could be your wholestory yeah, Like he slipped the
pill, but it was hilarious howit was done, you know, and I

(01:06:12):
just was laughing.
We was laughing together eversince, or whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:06:16):
Yeah, I think, well, I know some people.
Well, I only know one personfor real.
It's like an older friend ofmine.
She went on Hinge and she'sstill with the guy.
That's like two years in now.
Yeah, yeah.
So there are definitely peopleout there, four people for sure.

Speaker 1 (01:06:38):
For sure, yeah, but I think we just cut each other
off really quick too.
For sure I think we just cuteach other off really quick,
because when somebody doessomething wrong through hands or
it's like you said, the wrongthing X.

Speaker 2 (01:06:55):
I feel like that's people in general today.

Speaker 1 (01:06:58):
It's very much like.
Next You're familiar with.
Next I'm 35.
I got it.

Speaker 2 (01:07:02):
Yeah, you familiar with Next, right, yeah, I'm 35.
I got it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And then you get out of the bus.
Next.

Speaker 1 (01:07:07):
That was great, and then come back on the bus.

Speaker 2 (01:07:13):
Oh, you know what I mean MTV was the shit.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Damn.
Room Raiders.
Yeah, fucking Yo Mama, yeahyeah, yeah, damn room raiders.

Speaker 1 (01:07:23):
Yeah, fucking your mama.

Speaker 2 (01:07:24):
Yeah, you remember that your mama was lit oh my god
, I need to watch an episode ofthat, yeah yeah, I'm trying.

Speaker 3 (01:07:30):
I'm trying to bring it back as we did.
I don't think it it can't beyeah yeah

Speaker 1 (01:07:35):
they had a whole crowd of people like they was
stomped the yard or some shit,and then you go into that
person's house and figure outjokes that she was gonna make it
to you.
Remember that that person'shouse and figure out jokes that
she was gonna make it to you.

Speaker 2 (01:07:43):
Remember that that was a yes.
Coming back, yeah, yeah, but Igotta watch that.
That need to come out the vault.
Yeah, yeah, what the but?

Speaker 1 (01:07:53):
even um.
Punked was good oh, that'sclassic yeah, yeah, so that,
yeah this is.
Damn.

Speaker 2 (01:08:01):
How you?

Speaker 1 (01:08:02):
feeling I feel good.
Yeah, no, we're doing good ontime.
Ah well damn.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I was like yeah, we got littlethings that we could talk about,
but I think we can save it fornext week.
Yeah, yeah.
More information will developand we'll have more of that
process around it.

Speaker 2 (01:08:20):
Yeah, no, definitely no, that was pretty cool yeah
it's always something to talkabout for I guess.
So if we just just starttalking, exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:08:29):
Well, uh, this is two for the culture.
We'll be back peace love y'all.