April 24, 2025 • 43 mins
Justin and Steven dive deep into celebrity controversies while exploring how cultural backgrounds shape our understanding of relationships, sexuality, and public image.
• Kevin Gates commenting that LeBron James' wife should be more "in awe" of him like "white women" at games
• LeBron's response using the "lion doesn't concern himself with peasants" quote and why responding at all might have been a misstep
• Shannon Sharpe's $30-50 million lawsuit for alleged sexual assault and the text messages that complicate the case
• Kanye West's shocking confession about sexual experiences with his cousin at age 14
• The cultural difference between predominantly Black and white high schools regarding sexual pressure and virginity stigma
• Personal experiences navigating boundaries, inappropriate behavior, and the challenge of speaking up when something feels wrong
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
And we are back with another episode of Two for the
Culture.
I'm Justin Devante, I'm StevenWright and we are back.
How you doing, man.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Doing good, doing good, doing good.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
That's great to hear.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
What about you?
Speaker 1 (00:14):
I'm doing good.
Had a pretty I wouldn't saybusy weekend.
Got my car back expensive.
Yeah, yeah, expenses carexpenses.
You know doing Uber and makingyour car your business.
You got my car back expensive.
Yeah, yeah, expenses for carexpensive.
You know doing your, uh, doinguber and making your car your
business.
You know it's essential yougotta make sure it's done right
I didn't think about that.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Actually, now that you said that, like you're
literally paving the way to putmaintenance in your path, oh
yeah, for sure, yeah, exactlythat's like you know it comes
with it exactly, I mean.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
But that's like you know.
If you're renting out a home,yeah, there's little things that
you probably like.
If you're the homeowner, likeman, I'm gonna wait to get that
fixed, but if you're uh, thenthe roof falls in no no, no, if
you're, whoever you're uh,leasing out your or renting out
your home to, they may be quicklike hey, I want this little
thing fixed.
Yeah.
So it's important for you to getit fixed, because then it's,
(01:13):
it's going to become a problem,um, and they're, you know, more
complaints, um bad reviews orwhatever have you yeah, the
business in general exactly, soyou don't want to um, and the
longer you take to get somethingfixed, the longer you don't
make, uh, the less money youmake yeah, right or the longer
(01:34):
you don't make money.
So, um, so it's important, um,you know, and you can't.
Apparently you can't get joeschmoe to do it either, because
either because that may havebeen one of my problems as well.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
What do you mean?
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Joe Schmo and something's not done correctly,
and then it leads into a biggerproblem.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Yeah, yeah, you and your passenger stuck on the
highway.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
No, I was just saying like, yeah, yeah, something
wasn't done right previously.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Yeah, no, I get it.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Trying to skip on the expense, and then it became a
bigger problem.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
I wonder if that does happen, that people's cars
break down while someone is inthe car.
Yeah, absolutely Like on theway to the airport.
Yeah, absolutely, that'll befucked.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Yeah, that happens.
Yeah, so that's why people dolike blacks and things like that
.
You know, just feeling morecomfort right on the road yeah
yeah, when I was in dc, someanother guy, uh, was reversing
and didn't see our guy and hitour car, yeah, and so that was a
whole thing, yeah, and so wehad you just get order another
(02:41):
uber and they come and pick youup oh, okay, okay okay, yeah,
yeah yeah, I remember one timewhen I was ubering years back,
uh, my gas it was low and I justI just picked, I just picked up
this white woman from theairport and I could tell when I
saw that, because I thought itwas going to be like a certain
(03:02):
amount of I was really praying.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
I was really praying that because I was already in
line at the uh at the airportand I didn't want to get out of
line because I was like one ofthe next people.
And then she came and then herride was long.
I was like, damn, like I'mgonna need gas.
And then, as soon as she got in, and when I finally had the
(03:25):
courage, I had to say it becausethe exit was right there.
So I was like, uh, I need gasfor a second.
So like it's not gonna take toomuch time, just okay, like I
knew I was gonna get a barrieroh yeah, I've had some, like I
was the one time I well, I wentto Alabama for a trip.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
From the airport I was like, hey, yeah, this is a
longer trip Than what I expected.
Uh, huh.
This is before they gave youthe ride of how Long it was
gonna be.
They just said 45 minutes plus.
Uh huh, yeah, yeah, you didn'tknow which direction you was
going.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Oh yeah, I didn't have that when I was over.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
Yeah yeah, yeah, so, yeah, exactly so the guy was
like yeah, I'm going to need gasto drive you all the way down
to Alabama.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Oh, okay.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Yeah, so it's like an hour and something.
Yeah, I'm going to get gas realquick to make sure I have
enough, and then people are morethan chill.
I don't know why she found thatas an issue.
I mean it issue.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
I mean it was my fault, okay, okay.
Yeah, it was low enough towhere, like, I was winging it.
Oh okay, I was hoping that.
You know, I I was just puttingmore.
So the pressure of being inline at the airport because it's
like the line is like you'reparking your car in atlanta.
It's like you're parking yourcar with a slew of other air I
mean not air bb, uh uber driversit's like an entire parking lot
(04:49):
field, so it's like you're in aqueue yeah, exactly, yeah yeah,
uh-huh, and I was, uh.
Yeah, I was there for a longtime and then it finally came to
my number and then I'm like man, hopefully, but no, it was, it
was a little bit out the way.
I just would have been wingingit and I ain't want that shit to
(05:10):
come to the point, because youdon't know, with the Atlanta
traffic, atlanta traffic isdifferent from LA or anywhere
else.
The traffic stops, it's acomplete stop.
It's not slow.
Sometimes it'll be a absolutestop.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
It's ridiculous, why do?
Speaker 2 (05:32):
you think that is?
Uh, everybody gets off at thesame time.
You know it's the same thingthat any rules.
I don't know, man, but I knowit uh, yeah, my whole time uber
and in atlanta that wouldfucking stop, bro, it was so
annoying.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
And how long are you stopping Because?
I've been in Atlanta severaltimes.
That's never happened like towhere you just got.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
You've never been in like traffic.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
No, I've been in traffic, of course.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
I'm saying like the 5 o'clock, yeah, I'm saying, but
it's never absolute, like unlessthere's a car accident ahead.
Well, maybe because I droveUber that I just had many
chances for something like thatto happen.
That is the overall thing thatI'm saying, but it would happen
(06:18):
a lot.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
And I've noticed with Atlanta, they're not good with
signs Like if you're going downa ramp and that ramp leads to
like coming on to thatinterstate and you're in that
lane, it doesn't let you know.
Like to yield?
Yeah to yield, because you'reentering another person's lane
(06:43):
where you're going into thehighway.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Yeah, like around downtown it gets tricky.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Yeah, and I was like damn, I very much enter
somebody's lane.
I'm glad it's like 12 o'clockat night.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Yeah, no, no, no, no.
It gets really tricky,especially if you aren't
familiar with the area and allthat.
Yeah, you could literally haveto circle around.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
It's ridiculous yeah, well then you got GPS so that
they go in the right way.
Wasn't issue it just likesignal sending, signaling when,
like because sometimes you'llhave your own lane, then you've
got a drift or the other yep,yeah, that's coming on yeah
that's freaking.
But sometimes I'm going on aninterstate and that lane leads
actually into the whole highway,so I don't have.
(07:25):
But sometimes I'm going on aninterstate and that lane leads
actually into the whole highway,so I don't have my own shit.
I'm entering somebody's and Iwas like I should.
Actually there should be ayield sign here.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Yeah, and.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
I saw that way more times than I was like damn
people can easily, you know.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Oh, there's wrecks all the time.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
All the time.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
It.
Yeah, it's ridiculous.
Yeah, yeah, let's go on and getinto it.
Yeah, that's what I was like.
Yeah, there's a lot of littlethings on social media.
Yes, did you see the KevinGates thing with LeBron James?
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Yeah, he said that he wanted better for LeBron.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
Like he was talking about.
When LeBron and savannah do thehandshake, she ain't really
into it, but when he's on thecourt, the white women be in all
him.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
He's like that's what I want you know yeah yeah, my
girl gotta be in awe of me yeah,I mean, yeah, I, I understand
that's too funny.
He don't give a for real, but II saw it when he dropped that
video.
Like, and I don't even, I don'teven be scrolling that much
(08:30):
anymore but I was on Instagramand I said that shit, said like
one two minutes ago and I'm likethat man said some crazy shit
in this video.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
I didn't really feel like it was crazy, though.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
I mean to avoid.
It wasn't crazy in terms oflike, was it true or not?
I got where he was going withit.
But I'm just saying just toverbally speak that out there,
and you're a person of a certaintype of caliber, that shit is
going to go everywhere.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
So it's going to go directly to Savannah?
Yeah, absolutely, kevin Gatesis a celebrity.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Yeah, so I just remember, when he dropped it I
was like okay, and then,literally like 20 minutes later
he's just on all these differenthe's posted over and over and
over again saying the same stuff.
So I got what he was saying.
You know it just like damn,like kind of I'm sure it ruffled
(09:29):
some type of feathers.
And then, uh, lebron, he postedand he was like I don't what is
it?
Speaker 1 (09:35):
yeah, a lion.
Doesn't uh worry about theopinions of a peasant, yeah
right yeah with his.
Yeah, that one I that was forhis queen, because I wouldn't
have felt like LeBron is a highcaliber celebrity to where he
could pretend like he didn't seethat, because one, I mean one.
(10:00):
I didn't know that Kevin Gatessaid it until I saw LeBron's
post and people was talkingabout yeah, yeah, so I'm not
engaged on social media, like Idon't follow.
Follow the ball or it's a shaderoom.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
I'm assuming that's who posted but it was plenty of
people yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
so I didn't know that until I saw that and I was like
, oh, I that, but I didn't knowthat came from somewhere.
I thought he because he, youknow, he has a lion symbol, so I
thought he was just kind ofsaying that as a regular post.
But then that's when I was onYouTube and was like oh, lebron
responds to Kevin Gates.
And when I listened to KevinGates' comments he's like I love
(10:39):
LeBron.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Yeah, he kept saying it.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
Yeah, and he was just did you see what he said after
yeah, yeah.
Coffee spelled backwards is e,yeah, yeah, I don't give.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
E yeah, yeah until I get my coffee, but um yeah he
was just saying he was funny.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Yeah, he was like.
You know it's easter, you knowwhat that means?
A lot of bunnies hopping aroundlike bruh, this man and he said
know the truth hurts but itheals.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
Yeah, yeah, I think I love how he I didn't mind If he
wasn't a celebrity, it wouldhave been better, like it would
have been cooler.
I can guess I can get it,because he's like you know, kind
of somewhat he's not out of theaisle on not a peasant right.
(11:28):
Yeah, yeah, well, I don't knowwhy, LeBron say that?
Speaker 3 (11:30):
well, because it disturbed his.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Queen yes, he's saying that, it's the Queen dope
, I mean.
And she shouldn't see him howthe white women do, because she
knows him, she, she smelled hisshit before yeah yeah, yeah, it
sees him at his lows.
See, he.
They've had yelling arguments,screaming at each other.
There's a different level.
Y'all don't see the insightthat she sees on lebron they've
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been together since there was anhigh school he probably you
know she saw the worst of him,so she ain't gonna see him like
they, the people who idolize him.
Of course not that's so that'swhere I disagree with kevin
gates yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
How can he yeah?
Speaker 1 (12:06):
how can he, how could she ever see him, like they do,
because they don't know thereal him absolutely so.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Yeah, that's that's what I was thinking about when
he said that.
I was like, damn, you know it's.
I mean, I get what you'resaying.
But also, like bruh, like sheknows him, knows him, and she
probably is definitelycelebrating this man thing he's
the best and all this type ofsheets.
She's been there.
What are we even talking about?
(12:34):
For the?
Speaker 1 (12:35):
thing I do agree about, kevin Gates sometimes you
do need to remind it is thatthese women do want your place
oh yeah, don't get it confused.
Yeah, so there's a level oftruth to it, to where and and
there also may be a thing, theremay be a world to where she
ain't on top of her game, likeshe may be.
There's a level of truth to ituh-huh yeah, yeah, yeah, so,
(13:01):
yeah, and he, so I.
I don't know the handshakesthat they do and I don't see the
energy around it.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
I haven't even really seen anything.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
So I don't know what he sees.
So there's a level of whereKevin Gates could be right, but
there's also another part of itto where Kevin Gates doesn't
sound like he's considering isthat she knows him well, better
than probably his mama you know,has been there, has been
through everything so therecould be a truth.
(13:33):
I see both sides of it for sure.
I definitely see that uh-huh,but yes, but if I was LeBron
James, I wouldn't have it'splayoff time.
Bro, you got more on your mindthan letting that get you.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
I would have really not even thought about it,
because that's here today, gonetomorrow, yeah, I still think
it's different when you're in it, though that is actually his
piece in a way, after he comesfrom practice and all that type
of shit, and he gets home wherehis piece is supposed to be.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
That shit is a little bit rattled, or probably was
yeah, but it's gonna be rattledregardless if you respond or not
.
Now is it unrattled at thispoint?
Speaker 2 (14:13):
that's what I'm saying.
I don't know, but I just assumethat it did something to the
peace in the home yeah, but I'mjust saying a hit dog will
holler.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
So if it's rattled responding, ankle unrattle it.
She's still gonna have that inthe back of her mind whether you
responded or not yeah, I thinkI just wished for a better
response, or none at all yeahyeah, cuz it's kind of like
Kevin Gage ain't just nobody,you know what I'm saying, and
(14:44):
that's what he was saying in thevideo too.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
He was like I'm not a peasant, but I'm just like
right.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
But he knows Kevin Gates very much understood that
he had to respond.
Obviously he ain't no peasantbecause you still considering
his opinion so you can't say Idon't worry about people's
opinion, but you respond to theopinion you said.
You say that to the house.
That's why I'm saying, yeah,yeah, you say that's his van is
like yeah, he's a peasant.
(15:13):
Why am I worried about hisopinion so pretty much that you
know that?
you did respond the uh.
The saying comes from uh gamerthrones and the saying is when
uh the father lannister, um, hesaid the lions don't worry about
the opinions of sheep oh yeah,like you're a lion, you, that's
your prey.
Why do you care how they feel?
(15:34):
Right yeah, yeah, yeah.
So he said that with his family.
He doesn't say that to thesheep.
He said that like why are youcaring about these peasants
Opinions?
So you say that Amongst thehouses, like why do you care,
it's whatever.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
We know what we got.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Yeah, the response could've been better.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Yeah, yeah, I just would've, or none at all yeah,
for sure, you could just Postyour queen, like I.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Yeah, yeah, you could've just posted her.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
The luckiest man in the world.
Yeah, you could have justposted her.
Y'all may think I got it all.
I mean I don't deserve you.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, and just be like I don'tdeserve you.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
Or something, and just praising your queen.
That's really all you had to do, which he does.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
Yeah, he does it all the time.
So that's why I was like ohyeah, there's just a little
hiccup in the culture.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
But Kevin Gates, you know well what can you expect.
You know it's like this.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
You don't know what that man goes like I don't know,
but it's, it's funny to see,like.
Well, I don't know if the wordis funny, I don't know, it's
some sort of, some sort offeeling that I have just seeing
them together.
I only I don't know if it'senlightenment or what.
What do you mean?
It's just cool, like sheclearly wanted him, like from
(16:58):
seeing him at the thing sheclearly wanted this nigga and
now she's wrapped up in turbansnext to him and I don't know if
it's a turban, is it?
um, she wrapped up yeah, shewrapped up next to him, not
saying that he did that, I thinkshe was muslim before then?
Yeah, I think so uh-huh so uh,but it's just, it's just, it's
cool to see that.
(17:18):
I don't know why it's cool tosee it for me, but it's, it's
just funny you know like he'llsay something, and then you
could just hear her laughing inthe background every time.
So, uh, that's cool.
I think they got a cool littlething going on right.
I'm very much happy for therelationship yeah, it sounds
like it's very fun, very I don'tknow, I don't know what it is
(17:41):
think you know it sounds likethey're enjoying each other's
time and they're good for eachother at this moment.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
From outside looking in.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
Now.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
I don't you know what I mean.
I don't see much of it.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Right.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
So I have the smallest view of it.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
But outside, looking in, you know I'm happy, you know
she found somebody that sheloves because I know she was,
you know very much miserable init.
Like in being single, and howshe even though she did a lot
Once you put a book out to theworld about the relationships
you've been in you.
Now you have the title of beinga hoe.
(18:19):
Yeah, because I didn't know she.
You know she had that type oftitle until the book.
Yeah, I just know she dated acouple people.
But Lori Harvey, yeah, laurieharvey has I've seen more her
delayed slip date, morecelebrities and that whole title
(18:39):
isn't attached to her becauseit's kind of sophisticated yeah
yeah, yes, so I'm.
I'm saying that there's.
There's a movement with grace,but all I knew of britney renner
was that she dated celebrities.
I didn't know it was um becauseof you know.
Now the book's told it all yeah, it was a.
(19:00):
Jalal book.
So she did it to herself, butI'm glad she was able to come
through the light.
It seems like yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
So it all worked out in the end.
Yeah, it seems like she's doing.
I mean she's clearly.
She seems happy from what I see.
Did you hear about Kanye?
Speaker 1 (19:20):
What about him?
No, I didn't hear.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
Well, we'll be looking at it on time Okay good,
Come on phone.
Did you have something else?
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Yeah, so there's also the Shannon Sharp thing.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
Yeah, yeah.
So he got hit with a lawsuit bythe lawyer who's representing
the plaintiff.
It's like Gabrielle orsomething, and she is claiming
rape and she wanted like eitherlike between $30 or $50 million
from him $30 or $50 million.
(19:57):
Yeah, exactly yeah.
30 or 50 million dollars fromhim.
30 or 50 million dollars?
Yeah, exactly yeah.
Um, it was tony.
Busby is also the guy whorepresented another person who
uh tried to sue jay-z.
It was one that they droppeddropped the uh the lawsuit
because it just seems frivolousyeah um, and this seems like
another one, because he datedthis woman for a while and she
(20:19):
was like you know he's talkingabout times where he said you
alleged that I'm gonna kill youtype of thing or you know,
forcing her to do certain things.
Rape was a extreme word thatwas used and um, and then he
responded to it.
It was like, uh, every you know, she tried to blackmail him and
(20:41):
, um, she recorded that tapethem having sex but edited to
where it seemed forceful in away and of course she did it.
She did it beforehand to incitehim during sex to say certain
things.
Is what I was understanding howhis um, what he was responding
(21:03):
to the situation, like, hey, shetried to blackmail me, and then
this is in the recording shesent my lawyer was heavy edited.
We tried to get the real, theoriginal.
She did not give me theoriginal is she water?
Black.
Uh, she seems uh latino what,but then that's based on her
name.
(21:23):
I tried to google what shelooked like, but there's a
couple people that pop up so Ididn't want to attach the
picture to her, but the nameseemed very uh foreign.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Yeah yes, it's just like I didn't know that he was
dating her yeah, I mean they hadvery a lot of sexual encounters
.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
Yeah, they was tight.
Yeah, because he had sent, uh,text messages like, hey, this
was the type of relationship wehad.
And she was like I want some ofyour black babies, I want to
put my tongue in your assholethat's what she said yeah, yeah,
yeah, asshole, that's what shesaid.
(22:02):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, likejust a bunch of wild stuff like
to where it's like yeah, if I'mraping her.
Why is she responding?
This to me yeah yeah, yeah,what the fuck?
So, yeah, so he's, he's verymuch outing himself, and this is
the situation where it scaresme when you, when we're in a
highly sexual world, to wherethis is where we land when we
make simple acts mm-hmm yeah, Idon't know if it's just me when
(22:27):
I think about like dang.
It just shows how real theBible is and why you probably
should sustain from sex withinto your wife or husband I mean
I'm sure it has something to dowith it.
I know I'm probably going well,it's the bible, but and that's
the extreme side of things yeah,but that's just kind of how
like land is, like bruh.
(22:47):
This is just come attached toit you know, when, when you have
, uh, sexual intercourse withsomebody who's not and of course
it can happen.
You know your wife can makelies, but at least y'all are one
.
And this is y'all came togetherMm-hmm.
But you know when, cause thisis not his first time dealing
(23:07):
with you know, sexual yeah, hehe's had a sexual assault
allegations before.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
Oh no, no allegations before.
Oh, and then he also had thatvideo you know, was it earlier
this year.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
What is this?
An instagram, yeah, butnonetheless that's embarrassing
too, yeah, I'm just saying yeah,it's, yeah, it's a show your
shoulder, it's not a lawsuityeah of course, but it's
damaging to your reputation.
Yeah, yeah like it's alreadythat damaging, I mean.
Uh, so do you think that if youwas, say, if you had, um, you
(23:40):
accidentally filmed yourselfhaving sex, you put it on your
gram that?
You don't think that's damagingat all to you, to your brand
I'm just going off of what I sawfrom him.
I'm asking uh for me, yeah um,I'm I mean the.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
The quick answer would be I think so.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
Yeah, of course.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
It would do something , but the way that went it
didn't seem like it fuckedanything up for real.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
I mean.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
It seemed like it was like well, should we do
something.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
Yeah, but that does damage your brand, because
that's what you're alsoremembered by.
And not only that.
That's embarrassing, that'sembarrassing to your family,
yeah you have.
You have kids that are in intheir 30s picture.
You coming out with a sex tapeand your daughter seeing it.
Yeah and her friend seeing ityeah, yeah, yeah it's completely
(24:37):
yeah yeah, yeah, yeah rightyeah, and your mama seeing it
you know, yeah, yeah, all yourfriends and family.
That's extremely embarrassingand very uncomfortable yeah no
it's like, yeah, it's, it'sdamaging.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
I guess I was looking more of the business side, like
his life, not necessarily thepeople around him and others
that it might affect.
I was just thinking about didit really fuck up his deals?
Speaker 1 (25:06):
and all that type of stuff.
Thank God it didn't.
But at the same time he worksfor Disney.
It can.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
Oh, yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
Yeah, yeah, he works for ESPN.
Yeah, yeah yeah, maybe if hisjob.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
Maybe if his line of work was different, I think it
might have.
But, because it's like so openand you can talk about whatever
here and do that.
I think that's the main reasonwhy a lot of stuff wasn't good.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
I think that he is a.
He's great at his job.
It's why it's like, bro,there's risk and reward and
you're very much worth.
The reward you bring is we'lltake on the risk, yeah, yeah.
Now, if he was, yeah, yeah, I'mthrowing you away.
Yeah.
But, since he bring.
You know, they shot up thecharts once he came on for the
(25:51):
first time.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's.
He's a big personality andbrings a lot to the program,
because now he was with FoxSports before and after he left,
they got rid of the show.
Yeah, yeah yeah, undisputed,it's called Undisputed.
(26:12):
Yeah, yeah they fired Skip Damn.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was justlow-performing, amongst other
things, but it was just lowperforming amongst other things,
but it was low performing afterhe left and then when he goes
on the espn it shoots up.
Yeah, we'll take on that riskall right this is yeah, yeah,
well, yeah, this is anotherfrivolous lawsuit.
You need to, you need to slowdown, truly, yeah, yeah, you.
(26:33):
That's why you know they alwaystalked about, um, the late
night, uh, late, uh night catyeah um, like you need to find
somebody.
He really just needs to findsomebody which means yeah.
So some one woman that you needto be with and you know, commit
to, because this is, this isthe second time, bro, because I
(26:55):
forgot the other girl's name.
Uh, my uh michelle, yeah,exactly my michelle, yeah, and
this is gabriella, yeah.
So yeah, you messing with toomany people.
You need to slow down and getyou one shit um that's just my
synopsis.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
I don't know what your true thoughts on it I don't
, I still don't know about, Istill don't know.
I'll be back and forth.
I'll be back and forth.
I think, like my soul Says,like you know, just have one
woman.
Yeah, my soul definitely saysthat, like I said, it's like
(27:33):
every time shit gets quiet andthere's no movement and there's
four walls.
Said it's like every time shegets quiet, there's no movement
and it's four walls and it'sjust silent.
I'm like damn, yeah, like awife would be like amazing.
Like you know, no matter whathappens today, tomorrow, no
matter what, that you know, Ialways, in terms of my, my, uh,
(27:56):
processing of my, my thoughtsand stuff, like anytime it's at
like ground zero, it's like,yeah, that that does seem
fulfilling.
It doesn't seem for me, itdoesn't feel like multiple women
.
It seems more if I, if it was abalance, it seems more fun than
fulfilling.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
Yeah for sure.
I think that also is the thingI like to get to know people for
real, like yeah, before we sitdown, like I want to actually
like you yeah of course that isnot going to work every single
time, obviously but, that's whenit's like I actually know your
character yeah, no, for sureyeah yeah, he doesn't.
I don't think he knows likegirls character, for he doesn't.
(28:37):
I don't think he knows lategirl's character.
Obviously he don't really.
Oh, you don't think so no, Imean, how could you?
If he would have saw thiscoming, he would have never
slept with her.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
Oh my God, yeah, yeah , yeah, she's a young chick you
got to know, how these youngchicks move.
Which you, which you thoughtshe loved you because you was
the nice guy.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
I don't think he thinks that, yeah, yeah.
My daddy thinks like that no,yeah, I don't know, but they,
I'm sure they wasn't friends.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
Yeah, no, yeah that that is a big thing, though for
me for sure at least like, yeah,I don't see me growing and just
wanting women around, justbecause, like, I need to know
who these people are I mean, buthe's a very much a freak yeah,
(29:28):
clearly you know, I mean, Ithink that me cutting it short
and saying sexually active iswhat I wanted to say saying
sexually active is what I wantedto say but it's bigger than
that.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So, and he definitely hasfreaky tendencies.
Yeah, yeah, and because thisshit, all shit, this shit be
dropping in a year.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
That is definitely wild.
I don't see how he keepsgetting caught up in that type
of stuff.
But speaking of freaks, I didwant to see this this.
I don't know why my phonedidn't update, uh, the the
podcast thing I'm gonna type I'mtrying to see sinners.
On friday, though, for realthursday, thursday, friday uh
(30:15):
shit, I'm trying to find thisshit was it the Kanye West joint
?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, I thinkI'm about to find it now um, do
you have a breakdown of whatwas happening like?
It's literally, if I can justplay the audio yeah, here it
goes.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
I think I know which one you're talking about.
Uh, no, do you need a?
Speaker 2 (30:38):
No, I'll just do it, and this one doesn't have audio.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
Okay, can you pretty much say what happened?
Speaker 2 (30:47):
So basically, yeah, you talking about sucking a
man's dick.
Yeah, his cousin.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, did they havelike a the lyrics yeah, he
basically said when he was 14,yeah, yeah, he said my dad had
Playboy magazines, but themagazines I found in the top of
(31:10):
my mom's closet were different.
And then he said it was twoboys kissing, two men kissing,
and him and his cousin didn'tknow what that was or whatever,
and then I guess theyexperimented or something.
I didn't read this part.
Can you read it?
Speaker 3 (31:28):
Do you want me to read it?
Speaker 2 (31:29):
He says my name is Ye and I suck my cousin's dick
till I was 14.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
Till.
He was 14?
.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
He says till I was 14 , tweet sent yeah, this is my
song called Cousins.
So basically he's coming outand he's just saying, like I'm
not gay, but like I definitelysucked my cousin's dick when I
was 14 and the beat and all thatshit definitely was hard.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
Oh okay, yeah, it was , it was.
It was hard.
I mean, that's very vulnerableof yay, but also very gay.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
Yeah, but he said he's like I'm definitely not gay
, but I, I did I mean, that's agay act absolutely, I mean that
that's the gayest act you coulddo absolutely
yeah, and he said that uh, maybethat's why he always said that
him and diddy were twins I don'tknow.
He said that he said that.
(32:26):
He said that.
Damn, what was I about to sayBasically?
Yeah, that he said that he didthat with his cousin.
Oh yeah, and he said that Iguess his cousin thought that he
was going to keep it with himto the grave.
In my head I'm thinking what ishis cousin doing right now?
Speaker 1 (32:48):
He got got plenty of cousins maybe, but they're
probably, I feel like his wholefamily knows which one.
Yeah, yeah, like, yeah, I'mpretty sure they know what it is
.
This man is probably likepunching the air right now I
mean, of course, yeah, I'll bevery mad, but he also had a
cousin that, um like held a sextape over his head, or something
like that.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
That's what I was thinking.
Maybe that's the same cousin.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
Well then he should.
Maybe he, maybe the cousin wasactually Trying to get some
money for him so he wouldn'tcome out, and this is a way that
he's getting ahead of it.
Damn, I don't know, as a 14year old, that's gay and this is
a way that he's getting aheadof it.
Damn, I don't know, but that'syeah, that's.
I mean as a 14-year-old bro,that's gay.
(33:33):
I mean, like I remember mebeing 14, and we knew what gay
was in the ninth grade, ninthgrade.
Yeah, yeah, you're in highschool.
You know that if you suck aman's dick, that's gay.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
Yeah, yeah, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's pretty
, that's pretty, that's prettyextreme.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
I never wanted my dick sucked that bad, ever.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
I didn't even think I wanted it, sucked it night and
night, I mean, I mean, it wasjust sex like sex in general was
like we're not seeing porn,though yeah, yeah, we're saying
porn.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
I think my thing was more so like wanting to actually
have sex like, actually likeyeah, yeah, right.
Like the, I thought that wasthe first step.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
It definitely was the first step yeah, yeah, but uh,
right, right, right, yeah, it'slike accomplished.
Yeah, get a hand job orsomething.
Yeah, I did have.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
Yeah, yeah, that was the thing, but yeah, either way,
just that would be extreme asfuck.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
Like to be, um, doing all that and for me, like I'm
sure uh, but I can speak forevery man that they were nervous
the first time they had sex oh,yeah, yeah, no, definitely for
sure but yeah, I, I wanted tohave sex only because to get
that stigma of being, if you wasa virgin, he was lame oh yeah,
(34:49):
that shit was going around.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
Yeah, like every, every grade you go up.
Yeah, it's like it's worse yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
But when I talked to q about it, because he went to a
majority white high school,that was never a thing for them
really yeah, so that was reallya black high school thing wow
yeah, exactly I thought that wasevery high school me too.
Nope, yeah, yeah, because Iwanted, because I was like when
I went in middle school, uh, Iwent because we grew up, uh, in
(35:20):
the same area and that was nevera thing for us, like we was
very much being a child at ourages.
But when I, uh, I went tospring, here was just williamson
county, which is majority whiteum county, and going to moving
to memphis shelby county schools, metro, natural or memphis city
schools, but it was day andnight, yeah, yeah, everything
(35:44):
was, uh, you know, very highlyprovocative, sexual yeah yeah,
sexual and things along thoselines, so that was heightened.
But then when I moved back tonashville, going to a majority,
uh, metro nashville publicschools, it was that same way
uh-huh, but it was just likesooner.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
You think what?
Um all that?
No, I'm just saying it was.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
I'm just saying it was going to, uh, majority black
schools versus majority white.
It's just different.
Yeah, yeah to where, likehaving that stigma being a
virgin.
How it was uncool to be oneyeah if you went to.
That's not something that Ieven thought about.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
That's crazy exactly I remember being in 10th grade
and it just seemed like thatlame thing that lame meter was
just rising, that you startedlying on your dick too.
Yeah, I just remember beingfeeling like man, somebody gonna
ask me, somebody gonna ask me,I didn't do nothing.
(36:45):
I got a girlfriend andeverything.
I can't lie on her.
She right here.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Somebody gonna ask me I didn'tdo nothing.
Yeah, I got a girlfriend andeverything.
I can't lie on her.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
She right here yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly,
yeah, yeah.
So that then.
Speaker 3 (37:05):
So that was just um yeah so so I don't even know how
we got that on the kanye westthing I guess.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
Oh, because of his age, went like so we all right,
yeah, yeah, so there was noexperimenting.
We all knew.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
Yeah, yeah, you know, that's gay no, for sure that
that would be extra, like atthat age and that time frame and
his his era, yeah way worsethan ours, and then not that I
went to church growing up too.
Speaker 3 (37:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:30):
Yeah, yeah, yeah I mean.
And definitely the era too islike the older you are, the more
the church was more prevalentin your life.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
The more prevalent and the being homosexual, all
that type of shit Exactly.
Speaker 3 (37:44):
Exactly, you're 100% right, way, way worse.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
That's like you're 100% right, Way, way worse.
Speaker 3 (37:48):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
Especially the deeper in the hood you go.
I'm sure this is not a thing.
Yeah, I guess he just was likeman, fuck it, I'm finna, just
drop the bomb.
Speaker 1 (37:59):
Yeah, yeah yeah, we'll see.
Yeah, I mean, but you had.
I mean there was now that Ilook back on.
Well, I knew it then it's notlike I need to look back and
reflect there were gay people inthe neighborhood like that
didn't come out, yet that verymuch did questionable shit.
Like well, I saw this older gaykid.
(38:25):
Well, he wasn't, I didn't knowhim to be gay at that moment,
but he tried to see my dick when, I was younger, that was very
like I.
I was like 10 and I was likeyeah, no, yeah, I was like no, I
was, it was.
It was very weird.
I'll tell the story.
Um, I've told it on the lastpodcast, why not now?
(38:47):
So it was.
You know how people flashpeople trying to be funny.
Uh-huh yeah yeah, and this onekid, he flashed everybody, like
when he got in the house hepulled out his pants and
everybody ew, yeah, yeah, yeahand.
Speaker 3 (39:06):
I guess, he had liked it.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
Yeah, yeah, liked it.
Your turn who's next.
Speaker 1 (39:14):
Yeah, so that's hilarious.
Speaker 3 (39:16):
Y'all wanna play, right yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:23):
So we.
So he's a childhood.
My dad and his uncle are bestfriends so he's like a family
member so it's really not funnybut that's hilarious so, and
(39:44):
I'll wrap up real quick and sowe go to back to my house and
watch, watching a movie, andthen he shuts the door and I'm
like that's weird, whatever youknow.
I mean yeah, yeah, so I'm thebunk man, I'm watching spy kids
or some shit 3d is fire yeah,yeah, yeah.
(40:06):
And then you know I'm sittingdown.
I have, like the covers over meyou're the only person that's
ever laughed at this, by the wayyeah like so.
So I have the covers over meand I feel like like like a
tarantula on my leg.
I'm like bruh if I reveal thatthere's a tarantula right here,
(40:30):
I'm a scream for good yeah, like, yeah, you like you don't wanna
look down and see the tarantulayeah so I feel it, and then it
gets right here.
Then that zipper, I was likewhat do you do?
It like now, it's not atarantula, I'm like we doing you
know?
I don't know what the wordswere.
But it was probably Somethinglike I wanna see your dick, yeah
(40:51):
, yeah, like.
Of course that wasn't the words.
We're kids.
He's like he's my brother's age, so he's like Three and a half.
Four years older than me, so sohe's probably Kanye West's age
At this time.
Speaker 3 (41:03):
Yeah, exactly yeah, stage at this time, Exactly yeah
.
Speaker 1 (41:06):
And then he was like yeah, so-and-so.
Yeah, so does Dick.
I was like that's so-and-so.
Speaker 3 (41:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (41:15):
I said that's him.
You know I am.
Yeah, I was like nah what?
The fuck yeah.
Speaker 2 (41:22):
That's crazy.
Speaker 1 (41:24):
And I forgot what happened.
Then I remember telling youknow, telling a family member,
uh-huh, and it was like, oh, youshould have beat his ass.
Speaker 2 (41:32):
Yeah, I didn't know where this was going.
Speaker 1 (41:34):
Yeah, yeah, yeah but no, I was just saying like we
know that's long story short tosay you know what gay is?
Yeah, oh, no, for sure, yeah,that was really kind of where I
was going with it.
Yeah, even at 9 10 I knew whatgay was yeah, yeah, yeah and so
yeah, yeah, uh.
So, but you know some people,because he talked about the kind
(41:55):
of west talked about, or yay,whatever, talked about addiction
from porn uh uh, I'm justlaughing at you who's next?
Speaker 2 (42:05):
oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, the closing the door is crazy.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (42:10):
And so because you know the family member, we're
all ages and I told I was.
The thing about it which is thesad part, is like I was like
kind of confessing Uh-huh, likebro, this happened to me.
Speaker 3 (42:22):
You know, and know, and then it was like kind of
joking, like you, you're, you'repunk, you should have actually
fought him, but my head was likebruh, yeah, I'm y'all bigger
than me I ain't gonna win.
Speaker 1 (42:38):
That you know what I mean.
Yeah, yeah, that's y'all's age.
You know what I mean.
Right, I'm definitely going toget you know ran over yeah yeah
yeah, yeah, yeah, oh.
Speaker 2 (42:44):
So that was just like you were just trying to get
somebody to hear you.
Speaker 1 (42:52):
I think, when I look back on it, the feeling that I
got from it was like me tryingto like somebody, trying to say,
hey, this happened to me, I gotsexually assaulted and nobody
wouldn't hear you Like I thoughtthey were going to ride for me.
Speaker 2 (43:07):
You know that moment, yeah yeah like I don't know if
I wanted him to get his ass beatyeah but it was more like hey,
this happened to me yeah, andthey just like it just wasn't
the reaction that you wanted.
Speaker 1 (43:22):
Yeah yeah, yeah, like oh, you whole ass nigga.
What's the reaction?
That's not what they said.
They didn't say you should havebeat his ass.
It was like, yeah, he's ateenager and I'm not.
Speaker 2 (43:33):
Oh right, yeah, yeah, yeah, damn, yeah, but whatever
I mean, it is what it is.
Yeah, yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker 1 (43:41):
Yeah, so we're coming up.
Speaker 2 (43:45):
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, oh.
So yeah, it's right on themoney.
Speaker 1 (43:47):
Exactly All right.
Well, this was a good episode.
Yeah, we got to chop it in realquick, but we'll be back.
This is Two for the Culture.
We love y'all.
Speaker 2 (43:56):
All right peace.
And we are back with another episode of Two for the
Culture.
I'm Justin Devante, I'm StevenWright and we are back.
How you doing, man.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Doing good, doing good, doing good.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
That's great to hear.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
What about you?
Speaker 1 (00:14):
I'm doing good.
Had a pretty I wouldn't saybusy weekend.
Got my car back expensive.
Yeah, yeah, expenses carexpenses.
You know doing Uber and makingyour car your business.
You got my car back expensive.
Yeah, yeah, expenses for carexpensive.
You know doing your, uh, doinguber and making your car your
business.
You know it's essential yougotta make sure it's done right
I didn't think about that.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Actually, now that you said that, like you're
literally paving the way to putmaintenance in your path, oh
yeah, for sure, yeah, exactlythat's like you know it comes
with it exactly, I mean.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
But that's like you know.
If you're renting out a home,yeah, there's little things that
you probably like.
If you're the homeowner, likeman, I'm gonna wait to get that
fixed, but if you're uh, thenthe roof falls in no no, no, if
you're, whoever you're uh,leasing out your or renting out
your home to, they may be quicklike hey, I want this little
thing fixed.
Yeah.
So it's important for you to getit fixed, because then it's,
(01:13):
it's going to become a problem,um, and they're, you know, more
complaints, um bad reviews orwhatever have you yeah, the
business in general exactly, soyou don't want to um, and the
longer you take to get somethingfixed, the longer you don't
make, uh, the less money youmake yeah, right or the longer
(01:34):
you don't make money.
So, um, so it's important, um,you know, and you can't.
Apparently you can't get joeschmoe to do it either, because
either because that may havebeen one of my problems as well.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
What do you mean?
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Joe Schmo and something's not done correctly,
and then it leads into a biggerproblem.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Yeah, yeah, you and your passenger stuck on the
highway.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
No, I was just saying like, yeah, yeah, something
wasn't done right previously.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Yeah, no, I get it.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Trying to skip on the expense, and then it became a
bigger problem.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
I wonder if that does happen, that people's cars
break down while someone is inthe car.
Yeah, absolutely Like on theway to the airport.
Yeah, absolutely, that'll befucked.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Yeah, that happens.
Yeah, so that's why people dolike blacks and things like that
.
You know, just feeling morecomfort right on the road yeah
yeah, when I was in dc, someanother guy, uh, was reversing
and didn't see our guy and hitour car, yeah, and so that was a
whole thing, yeah, and so wehad you just get order another
(02:41):
uber and they come and pick youup oh, okay, okay okay, yeah,
yeah yeah, I remember one timewhen I was ubering years back,
uh, my gas it was low and I justI just picked, I just picked up
this white woman from theairport and I could tell when I
saw that, because I thought itwas going to be like a certain
(03:02):
amount of I was really praying.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
I was really praying that because I was already in
line at the uh at the airportand I didn't want to get out of
line because I was like one ofthe next people.
And then she came and then herride was long.
I was like, damn, like I'mgonna need gas.
And then, as soon as she got in, and when I finally had the
(03:25):
courage, I had to say it becausethe exit was right there.
So I was like, uh, I need gasfor a second.
So like it's not gonna take toomuch time, just okay, like I
knew I was gonna get a barrieroh yeah, I've had some, like I
was the one time I well, I wentto Alabama for a trip.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
From the airport I was like, hey, yeah, this is a
longer trip Than what I expected.
Uh, huh.
This is before they gave youthe ride of how Long it was
gonna be.
They just said 45 minutes plus.
Uh huh, yeah, yeah, you didn'tknow which direction you was
going.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Oh yeah, I didn't have that when I was over.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
Yeah yeah, yeah, so, yeah, exactly so the guy was
like yeah, I'm going to need gasto drive you all the way down
to Alabama.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Oh, okay.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Yeah, so it's like an hour and something.
Yeah, I'm going to get gas realquick to make sure I have
enough, and then people are morethan chill.
I don't know why she found thatas an issue.
I mean it issue.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
I mean it was my fault, okay, okay.
Yeah, it was low enough towhere, like, I was winging it.
Oh okay, I was hoping that.
You know, I I was just puttingmore.
So the pressure of being inline at the airport because it's
like the line is like you'reparking your car in atlanta.
It's like you're parking yourcar with a slew of other air I
mean not air bb, uh uber driversit's like an entire parking lot
(04:49):
field, so it's like you're in aqueue yeah, exactly, yeah yeah,
uh-huh, and I was, uh.
Yeah, I was there for a longtime and then it finally came to
my number and then I'm like man, hopefully, but no, it was, it
was a little bit out the way.
I just would have been wingingit and I ain't want that shit to
(05:10):
come to the point, because youdon't know, with the Atlanta
traffic, atlanta traffic isdifferent from LA or anywhere
else.
The traffic stops, it's acomplete stop.
It's not slow.
Sometimes it'll be a absolutestop.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
It's ridiculous, why do?
Speaker 2 (05:32):
you think that is?
Uh, everybody gets off at thesame time.
You know it's the same thingthat any rules.
I don't know, man, but I knowit uh, yeah, my whole time uber
and in atlanta that wouldfucking stop, bro, it was so
annoying.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
And how long are you stopping Because?
I've been in Atlanta severaltimes.
That's never happened like towhere you just got.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
You've never been in like traffic.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
No, I've been in traffic, of course.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
I'm saying like the 5 o'clock, yeah, I'm saying, but
it's never absolute, like unlessthere's a car accident ahead.
Well, maybe because I droveUber that I just had many
chances for something like thatto happen.
That is the overall thing thatI'm saying, but it would happen
(06:18):
a lot.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
And I've noticed with Atlanta, they're not good with
signs Like if you're going downa ramp and that ramp leads to
like coming on to thatinterstate and you're in that
lane, it doesn't let you know.
Like to yield?
Yeah to yield, because you'reentering another person's lane
(06:43):
where you're going into thehighway.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Yeah, like around downtown it gets tricky.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Yeah, and I was like damn, I very much enter
somebody's lane.
I'm glad it's like 12 o'clockat night.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Yeah, no, no, no, no.
It gets really tricky,especially if you aren't
familiar with the area and allthat.
Yeah, you could literally haveto circle around.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
It's ridiculous yeah, well then you got GPS so that
they go in the right way.
Wasn't issue it just likesignal sending, signaling when,
like because sometimes you'llhave your own lane, then you've
got a drift or the other yep,yeah, that's coming on yeah
that's freaking.
But sometimes I'm going on aninterstate and that lane leads
actually into the whole highway,so I don't have.
(07:25):
But sometimes I'm going on aninterstate and that lane leads
actually into the whole highway,so I don't have my own shit.
I'm entering somebody's and Iwas like I should.
Actually there should be ayield sign here.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Yeah, and.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
I saw that way more times than I was like damn
people can easily, you know.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Oh, there's wrecks all the time.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
All the time.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
It.
Yeah, it's ridiculous.
Yeah, yeah, let's go on and getinto it.
Yeah, that's what I was like.
Yeah, there's a lot of littlethings on social media.
Yes, did you see the KevinGates thing with LeBron James?
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Yeah, he said that he wanted better for LeBron.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
Like he was talking about.
When LeBron and savannah do thehandshake, she ain't really
into it, but when he's on thecourt, the white women be in all
him.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
He's like that's what I want you know yeah yeah, my
girl gotta be in awe of me yeah,I mean, yeah, I, I understand
that's too funny.
He don't give a for real, but II saw it when he dropped that
video.
Like, and I don't even, I don'teven be scrolling that much
(08:30):
anymore but I was on Instagramand I said that shit, said like
one two minutes ago and I'm likethat man said some crazy shit
in this video.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
I didn't really feel like it was crazy, though.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
I mean to avoid.
It wasn't crazy in terms oflike, was it true or not?
I got where he was going withit.
But I'm just saying just toverbally speak that out there,
and you're a person of a certaintype of caliber, that shit is
going to go everywhere.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
So it's going to go directly to Savannah?
Yeah, absolutely, kevin Gatesis a celebrity.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Yeah, so I just remember, when he dropped it I
was like okay, and then,literally like 20 minutes later
he's just on all these differenthe's posted over and over and
over again saying the same stuff.
So I got what he was saying.
You know it just like damn,like kind of I'm sure it ruffled
(09:29):
some type of feathers.
And then, uh, lebron, he postedand he was like I don't what is
it?
Speaker 1 (09:35):
yeah, a lion.
Doesn't uh worry about theopinions of a peasant, yeah
right yeah with his.
Yeah, that one I that was forhis queen, because I wouldn't
have felt like LeBron is a highcaliber celebrity to where he
could pretend like he didn't seethat, because one, I mean one.
(10:00):
I didn't know that Kevin Gatessaid it until I saw LeBron's
post and people was talkingabout yeah, yeah, so I'm not
engaged on social media, like Idon't follow.
Follow the ball or it's a shaderoom.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
I'm assuming that's who posted but it was plenty of
people yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
so I didn't know that until I saw that and I was like
, oh, I that, but I didn't knowthat came from somewhere.
I thought he because he, youknow, he has a lion symbol, so I
thought he was just kind ofsaying that as a regular post.
But then that's when I was onYouTube and was like oh, lebron
responds to Kevin Gates.
And when I listened to KevinGates' comments he's like I love
(10:39):
LeBron.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Yeah, he kept saying it.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
Yeah, and he was just did you see what he said after
yeah, yeah.
Coffee spelled backwards is e,yeah, yeah, I don't give.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
E yeah, yeah until I get my coffee, but um yeah he
was just saying he was funny.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Yeah, he was like.
You know it's easter, you knowwhat that means?
A lot of bunnies hopping aroundlike bruh, this man and he said
know the truth hurts but itheals.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
Yeah, yeah, I think I love how he I didn't mind If he
wasn't a celebrity, it wouldhave been better, like it would
have been cooler.
I can guess I can get it,because he's like you know, kind
of somewhat he's not out of theaisle on not a peasant right.
(11:28):
Yeah, yeah, well, I don't knowwhy, LeBron say that?
Speaker 3 (11:30):
well, because it disturbed his.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Queen yes, he's saying that, it's the Queen dope
, I mean.
And she shouldn't see him howthe white women do, because she
knows him, she, she smelled hisshit before yeah yeah, yeah, it
sees him at his lows.
See, he.
They've had yelling arguments,screaming at each other.
There's a different level.
Y'all don't see the insightthat she sees on lebron they've
(11:51):
been together since there was anhigh school he probably you
know she saw the worst of him,so she ain't gonna see him like
they, the people who idolize him.
Of course not that's so that'swhere I disagree with kevin
gates yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
How can he yeah?
Speaker 1 (12:06):
how can he, how could she ever see him, like they do,
because they don't know thereal him absolutely so.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Yeah, that's that's what I was thinking about when
he said that.
I was like, damn, you know it's.
I mean, I get what you'resaying.
But also, like bruh, like sheknows him, knows him, and she
probably is definitelycelebrating this man thing he's
the best and all this type ofsheets.
She's been there.
What are we even talking about?
(12:34):
For the?
Speaker 1 (12:35):
thing I do agree about, kevin Gates sometimes you
do need to remind it is thatthese women do want your place
oh yeah, don't get it confused.
Yeah, so there's a level oftruth to it, to where and and
there also may be a thing, theremay be a world to where she
ain't on top of her game, likeshe may be.
There's a level of truth to ituh-huh yeah, yeah, yeah, so,
(13:01):
yeah, and he, so I.
I don't know the handshakesthat they do and I don't see the
energy around it.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
I haven't even really seen anything.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
So I don't know what he sees.
So there's a level of whereKevin Gates could be right, but
there's also another part of itto where Kevin Gates doesn't
sound like he's considering isthat she knows him well, better
than probably his mama you know,has been there, has been
through everything so therecould be a truth.
(13:33):
I see both sides of it for sure.
I definitely see that uh-huh,but yes, but if I was LeBron
James, I wouldn't have it'splayoff time.
Bro, you got more on your mindthan letting that get you.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
I would have really not even thought about it,
because that's here today, gonetomorrow, yeah, I still think
it's different when you're in it, though that is actually his
piece in a way, after he comesfrom practice and all that type
of shit, and he gets home wherehis piece is supposed to be.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
That shit is a little bit rattled, or probably was
yeah, but it's gonna be rattledregardless if you respond or not
.
Now is it unrattled at thispoint?
Speaker 2 (14:13):
that's what I'm saying.
I don't know, but I just assumethat it did something to the
peace in the home yeah, but I'mjust saying a hit dog will
holler.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
So if it's rattled responding, ankle unrattle it.
She's still gonna have that inthe back of her mind whether you
responded or not yeah, I thinkI just wished for a better
response, or none at all yeahyeah, cuz it's kind of like
Kevin Gage ain't just nobody,you know what I'm saying, and
(14:44):
that's what he was saying in thevideo too.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
He was like I'm not a peasant, but I'm just like
right.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
But he knows Kevin Gates very much understood that
he had to respond.
Obviously he ain't no peasantbecause you still considering
his opinion so you can't say Idon't worry about people's
opinion, but you respond to theopinion you said.
You say that to the house.
That's why I'm saying, yeah,yeah, you say that's his van is
like yeah, he's a peasant.
(15:13):
Why am I worried about hisopinion so pretty much that you
know that?
you did respond the uh.
The saying comes from uh gamerthrones and the saying is when
uh the father lannister, um, hesaid the lions don't worry about
the opinions of sheep oh yeah,like you're a lion, you, that's
your prey.
Why do you care how they feel?
(15:34):
Right yeah, yeah, yeah.
So he said that with his family.
He doesn't say that to thesheep.
He said that like why are youcaring about these peasants
Opinions?
So you say that Amongst thehouses, like why do you care,
it's whatever.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
We know what we got.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Yeah, the response could've been better.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Yeah, yeah, I just would've, or none at all yeah,
for sure, you could just Postyour queen, like I.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Yeah, yeah, you could've just posted her.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
The luckiest man in the world.
Yeah, you could have justposted her.
Y'all may think I got it all.
I mean I don't deserve you.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, and just be like I don'tdeserve you.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
Or something, and just praising your queen.
That's really all you had to do, which he does.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
Yeah, he does it all the time.
So that's why I was like ohyeah, there's just a little
hiccup in the culture.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
But Kevin Gates, you know well what can you expect.
You know it's like this.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
You don't know what that man goes like I don't know,
but it's, it's funny to see,like.
Well, I don't know if the wordis funny, I don't know, it's
some sort of, some sort offeeling that I have just seeing
them together.
I only I don't know if it'senlightenment or what.
What do you mean?
It's just cool, like sheclearly wanted him, like from
(16:58):
seeing him at the thing sheclearly wanted this nigga and
now she's wrapped up in turbansnext to him and I don't know if
it's a turban, is it?
um, she wrapped up yeah, shewrapped up next to him, not
saying that he did that, I thinkshe was muslim before then?
Yeah, I think so uh-huh so uh,but it's just, it's just, it's
cool to see that.
(17:18):
I don't know why it's cool tosee it for me, but it's, it's
just funny you know like he'llsay something, and then you
could just hear her laughing inthe background every time.
So, uh, that's cool.
I think they got a cool littlething going on right.
I'm very much happy for therelationship yeah, it sounds
like it's very fun, very I don'tknow, I don't know what it is
(17:41):
think you know it sounds likethey're enjoying each other's
time and they're good for eachother at this moment.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
From outside looking in.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
Now.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
I don't you know what I mean.
I don't see much of it.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Right.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
So I have the smallest view of it.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
But outside, looking in, you know I'm happy, you know
she found somebody that sheloves because I know she was,
you know very much miserable init.
Like in being single, and howshe even though she did a lot
Once you put a book out to theworld about the relationships
you've been in you.
Now you have the title of beinga hoe.
(18:19):
Yeah, because I didn't know she.
You know she had that type oftitle until the book.
Yeah, I just know she dated acouple people.
But Lori Harvey, yeah, laurieharvey has I've seen more her
delayed slip date, morecelebrities and that whole title
(18:39):
isn't attached to her becauseit's kind of sophisticated yeah
yeah, yes, so I'm.
I'm saying that there's.
There's a movement with grace,but all I knew of britney renner
was that she dated celebrities.
I didn't know it was um becauseof you know.
Now the book's told it all yeah, it was a.
(19:00):
Jalal book.
So she did it to herself, butI'm glad she was able to come
through the light.
It seems like yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
So it all worked out in the end.
Yeah, it seems like she's doing.
I mean she's clearly.
She seems happy from what I see.
Did you hear about Kanye?
Speaker 1 (19:20):
What about him?
No, I didn't hear.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
Well, we'll be looking at it on time Okay good,
Come on phone.
Did you have something else?
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Yeah, so there's also the Shannon Sharp thing.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
Yeah, yeah.
So he got hit with a lawsuit bythe lawyer who's representing
the plaintiff.
It's like Gabrielle orsomething, and she is claiming
rape and she wanted like eitherlike between $30 or $50 million
from him $30 or $50 million.
(19:57):
Yeah, exactly yeah.
30 or 50 million dollars fromhim.
30 or 50 million dollars?
Yeah, exactly yeah.
Um, it was tony.
Busby is also the guy whorepresented another person who
uh tried to sue jay-z.
It was one that they droppeddropped the uh the lawsuit
because it just seems frivolousyeah um, and this seems like
another one, because he datedthis woman for a while and she
(20:19):
was like you know he's talkingabout times where he said you
alleged that I'm gonna kill youtype of thing or you know,
forcing her to do certain things.
Rape was a extreme word thatwas used and um, and then he
responded to it.
It was like, uh, every you know, she tried to blackmail him and
(20:41):
, um, she recorded that tapethem having sex but edited to
where it seemed forceful in away and of course she did it.
She did it beforehand to incitehim during sex to say certain
things.
Is what I was understanding howhis um, what he was responding
(21:03):
to the situation, like, hey, shetried to blackmail me, and then
this is in the recording shesent my lawyer was heavy edited.
We tried to get the real, theoriginal.
She did not give me theoriginal is she water?
Black.
Uh, she seems uh latino what,but then that's based on her
name.
(21:23):
I tried to google what shelooked like, but there's a
couple people that pop up so Ididn't want to attach the
picture to her, but the nameseemed very uh foreign.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Yeah yes, it's just like I didn't know that he was
dating her yeah, I mean they hadvery a lot of sexual encounters
.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
Yeah, they was tight.
Yeah, because he had sent, uh,text messages like, hey, this
was the type of relationship wehad.
And she was like I want some ofyour black babies, I want to
put my tongue in your assholethat's what she said yeah, yeah,
yeah, asshole, that's what shesaid.
(22:02):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, likejust a bunch of wild stuff like
to where it's like yeah, if I'mraping her.
Why is she responding?
This to me yeah yeah, yeah,what the fuck?
So, yeah, so he's, he's verymuch outing himself, and this is
the situation where it scaresme when you, when we're in a
highly sexual world, to wherethis is where we land when we
make simple acts mm-hmm yeah, Idon't know if it's just me when
(22:27):
I think about like dang.
It just shows how real theBible is and why you probably
should sustain from sex withinto your wife or husband I mean
I'm sure it has something to dowith it.
I know I'm probably going well,it's the bible, but and that's
the extreme side of things yeah,but that's just kind of how
like land is, like bruh.
(22:47):
This is just come attached toit you know, when, when you have
, uh, sexual intercourse withsomebody who's not and of course
it can happen.
You know your wife can makelies, but at least y'all are one
.
And this is y'all came togetherMm-hmm.
But you know when, cause thisis not his first time dealing
(23:07):
with you know, sexual yeah, hehe's had a sexual assault
allegations before.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
Oh no, no allegations before.
Oh, and then he also had thatvideo you know, was it earlier
this year.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
What is this?
An instagram, yeah, butnonetheless that's embarrassing
too, yeah, I'm just saying yeah,it's, yeah, it's a show your
shoulder, it's not a lawsuityeah of course, but it's
damaging to your reputation.
Yeah, yeah like it's alreadythat damaging, I mean.
Uh, so do you think that if youwas, say, if you had, um, you
(23:40):
accidentally filmed yourselfhaving sex, you put it on your
gram that?
You don't think that's damagingat all to you, to your brand
I'm just going off of what I sawfrom him.
I'm asking uh for me, yeah um,I'm I mean the.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
The quick answer would be I think so.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
Yeah, of course.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
It would do something , but the way that went it
didn't seem like it fuckedanything up for real.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
I mean.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
It seemed like it was like well, should we do
something.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
Yeah, but that does damage your brand, because
that's what you're alsoremembered by.
And not only that.
That's embarrassing, that'sembarrassing to your family,
yeah you have.
You have kids that are in intheir 30s picture.
You coming out with a sex tapeand your daughter seeing it.
Yeah and her friend seeing ityeah, yeah, yeah it's completely
(24:37):
yeah yeah, yeah, yeah rightyeah, and your mama seeing it
you know, yeah, yeah, all yourfriends and family.
That's extremely embarrassingand very uncomfortable yeah no
it's like, yeah, it's, it'sdamaging.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
I guess I was looking more of the business side, like
his life, not necessarily thepeople around him and others
that it might affect.
I was just thinking about didit really fuck up his deals?
Speaker 1 (25:06):
and all that type of stuff.
Thank God it didn't.
But at the same time he worksfor Disney.
It can.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
Oh, yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
Yeah, yeah, he works for ESPN.
Yeah, yeah yeah, maybe if hisjob.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
Maybe if his line of work was different, I think it
might have.
But, because it's like so openand you can talk about whatever
here and do that.
I think that's the main reasonwhy a lot of stuff wasn't good.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
I think that he is a.
He's great at his job.
It's why it's like, bro,there's risk and reward and
you're very much worth.
The reward you bring is we'lltake on the risk, yeah, yeah.
Now, if he was, yeah, yeah, I'mthrowing you away.
Yeah.
But, since he bring.
You know, they shot up thecharts once he came on for the
(25:51):
first time.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's.
He's a big personality andbrings a lot to the program,
because now he was with FoxSports before and after he left,
they got rid of the show.
Yeah, yeah yeah, undisputed,it's called Undisputed.
(26:12):
Yeah, yeah they fired Skip Damn.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was justlow-performing, amongst other
things, but it was just lowperforming amongst other things,
but it was low performing afterhe left and then when he goes
on the espn it shoots up.
Yeah, we'll take on that riskall right this is yeah, yeah,
well, yeah, this is anotherfrivolous lawsuit.
You need to, you need to slowdown, truly, yeah, yeah, you.
(26:33):
That's why you know they alwaystalked about, um, the late
night, uh, late, uh night catyeah um, like you need to find
somebody.
He really just needs to findsomebody which means yeah.
So some one woman that you needto be with and you know, commit
to, because this is, this isthe second time, bro, because I
(26:55):
forgot the other girl's name.
Uh, my uh michelle, yeah,exactly my michelle, yeah, and
this is gabriella, yeah.
So yeah, you messing with toomany people.
You need to slow down and getyou one shit um that's just my
synopsis.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
I don't know what your true thoughts on it I don't
, I still don't know about, Istill don't know.
I'll be back and forth.
I'll be back and forth.
I think, like my soul Says,like you know, just have one
woman.
Yeah, my soul definitely saysthat, like I said, it's like
(27:33):
every time shit gets quiet andthere's no movement and there's
four walls.
Said it's like every time shegets quiet, there's no movement
and it's four walls and it'sjust silent.
I'm like damn, yeah, like awife would be like amazing.
Like you know, no matter whathappens today, tomorrow, no
matter what, that you know, Ialways, in terms of my, my, uh,
(27:56):
processing of my, my thoughtsand stuff, like anytime it's at
like ground zero, it's like,yeah, that that does seem
fulfilling.
It doesn't seem for me, itdoesn't feel like multiple women
.
It seems more if I, if it was abalance, it seems more fun than
fulfilling.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
Yeah for sure.
I think that also is the thingI like to get to know people for
real, like yeah, before we sitdown, like I want to actually
like you yeah of course that isnot going to work every single
time, obviously but, that's whenit's like I actually know your
character yeah, no, for sureyeah yeah, he doesn't.
I don't think he knows likegirls character, for he doesn't.
(28:37):
I don't think he knows lategirl's character.
Obviously he don't really.
Oh, you don't think so no, Imean, how could you?
If he would have saw thiscoming, he would have never
slept with her.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
Oh my God, yeah, yeah , yeah, she's a young chick you
got to know, how these youngchicks move.
Which you, which you thoughtshe loved you because you was
the nice guy.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
I don't think he thinks that, yeah, yeah.
My daddy thinks like that no,yeah, I don't know, but they,
I'm sure they wasn't friends.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
Yeah, no, yeah that that is a big thing, though for
me for sure at least like, yeah,I don't see me growing and just
wanting women around, justbecause, like, I need to know
who these people are I mean, buthe's a very much a freak yeah,
(29:28):
clearly you know, I mean, Ithink that me cutting it short
and saying sexually active iswhat I wanted to say saying
sexually active is what I wantedto say but it's bigger than
that.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So, and he definitely hasfreaky tendencies.
Yeah, yeah, and because thisshit, all shit, this shit be
dropping in a year.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
That is definitely wild.
I don't see how he keepsgetting caught up in that type
of stuff.
But speaking of freaks, I didwant to see this this.
I don't know why my phonedidn't update, uh, the the
podcast thing I'm gonna type I'mtrying to see sinners.
On friday, though, for realthursday, thursday, friday uh
(30:15):
shit, I'm trying to find thisshit was it the Kanye West joint
?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, I thinkI'm about to find it now um, do
you have a breakdown of whatwas happening like?
It's literally, if I can justplay the audio yeah, here it
goes.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
I think I know which one you're talking about.
Uh, no, do you need a?
Speaker 2 (30:38):
No, I'll just do it, and this one doesn't have audio.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
Okay, can you pretty much say what happened?
Speaker 2 (30:47):
So basically, yeah, you talking about sucking a
man's dick.
Yeah, his cousin.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, did they havelike a the lyrics yeah, he
basically said when he was 14,yeah, yeah, he said my dad had
Playboy magazines, but themagazines I found in the top of
(31:10):
my mom's closet were different.
And then he said it was twoboys kissing, two men kissing,
and him and his cousin didn'tknow what that was or whatever,
and then I guess theyexperimented or something.
I didn't read this part.
Can you read it?
Speaker 3 (31:28):
Do you want me to read it?
Speaker 2 (31:29):
He says my name is Ye and I suck my cousin's dick
till I was 14.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
Till.
He was 14?
.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
He says till I was 14 , tweet sent yeah, this is my
song called Cousins.
So basically he's coming outand he's just saying, like I'm
not gay, but like I definitelysucked my cousin's dick when I
was 14 and the beat and all thatshit definitely was hard.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
Oh okay, yeah, it was , it was.
It was hard.
I mean, that's very vulnerableof yay, but also very gay.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
Yeah, but he said he's like I'm definitely not gay
, but I, I did I mean, that's agay act absolutely, I mean that
that's the gayest act you coulddo absolutely
yeah, and he said that uh, maybethat's why he always said that
him and diddy were twins I don'tknow.
He said that he said that.
(32:26):
He said that.
Damn, what was I about to sayBasically?
Yeah, that he said that he didthat with his cousin.
Oh yeah, and he said that Iguess his cousin thought that he
was going to keep it with himto the grave.
In my head I'm thinking what ishis cousin doing right now?
Speaker 1 (32:48):
He got got plenty of cousins maybe, but they're
probably, I feel like his wholefamily knows which one.
Yeah, yeah, like, yeah, I'mpretty sure they know what it is
.
This man is probably likepunching the air right now I
mean, of course, yeah, I'll bevery mad, but he also had a
cousin that, um like held a sextape over his head, or something
like that.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
That's what I was thinking.
Maybe that's the same cousin.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
Well then he should.
Maybe he, maybe the cousin wasactually Trying to get some
money for him so he wouldn'tcome out, and this is a way that
he's getting ahead of it.
Damn, I don't know, as a 14year old, that's gay and this is
a way that he's getting aheadof it.
Damn, I don't know, but that'syeah, that's.
I mean as a 14-year-old bro,that's gay.
(33:33):
I mean, like I remember mebeing 14, and we knew what gay
was in the ninth grade, ninthgrade.
Yeah, yeah, you're in highschool.
You know that if you suck aman's dick, that's gay.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
Yeah, yeah, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's pretty
, that's pretty, that's prettyextreme.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
I never wanted my dick sucked that bad, ever.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
I didn't even think I wanted it, sucked it night and
night, I mean, I mean, it wasjust sex like sex in general was
like we're not seeing porn,though yeah, yeah, we're saying
porn.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
I think my thing was more so like wanting to actually
have sex like, actually likeyeah, yeah, right.
Like the, I thought that wasthe first step.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
It definitely was the first step yeah, yeah, but uh,
right, right, right, yeah, it'slike accomplished.
Yeah, get a hand job orsomething.
Yeah, I did have.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
Yeah, yeah, that was the thing, but yeah, either way,
just that would be extreme asfuck.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
Like to be, um, doing all that and for me, like I'm
sure uh, but I can speak forevery man that they were nervous
the first time they had sex oh,yeah, yeah, no, definitely for
sure but yeah, I, I wanted tohave sex only because to get
that stigma of being, if you wasa virgin, he was lame oh yeah,
(34:49):
that shit was going around.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
Yeah, like every, every grade you go up.
Yeah, it's like it's worse yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
But when I talked to q about it, because he went to a
majority white high school,that was never a thing for them
really yeah, so that was reallya black high school thing wow
yeah, exactly I thought that wasevery high school me too.
Nope, yeah, yeah, because Iwanted, because I was like when
I went in middle school, uh, Iwent because we grew up, uh, in
(35:20):
the same area and that was nevera thing for us, like we was
very much being a child at ourages.
But when I, uh, I went tospring, here was just williamson
county, which is majority whiteum county, and going to moving
to memphis shelby county schools, metro, natural or memphis city
schools, but it was day andnight, yeah, yeah, everything
(35:44):
was, uh, you know, very highlyprovocative, sexual yeah yeah,
sexual and things along thoselines, so that was heightened.
But then when I moved back tonashville, going to a majority,
uh, metro nashville publicschools, it was that same way
uh-huh, but it was just likesooner.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
You think what?
Um all that?
No, I'm just saying it was.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
I'm just saying it was going to, uh, majority black
schools versus majority white.
It's just different.
Yeah, yeah to where, likehaving that stigma being a
virgin.
How it was uncool to be oneyeah if you went to.
That's not something that Ieven thought about.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
That's crazy exactly I remember being in 10th grade
and it just seemed like thatlame thing that lame meter was
just rising, that you startedlying on your dick too.
Yeah, I just remember beingfeeling like man, somebody gonna
ask me, somebody gonna ask me,I didn't do nothing.
(36:45):
I got a girlfriend andeverything.
I can't lie on her.
She right here.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Somebody gonna ask me I didn'tdo nothing.
Yeah, I got a girlfriend andeverything.
I can't lie on her.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
She right here yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly,
yeah, yeah.
So that then.
Speaker 3 (37:05):
So that was just um yeah so so I don't even know how
we got that on the kanye westthing I guess.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
Oh, because of his age, went like so we all right,
yeah, yeah, so there was noexperimenting.
We all knew.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
Yeah, yeah, you know, that's gay no, for sure that
that would be extra, like atthat age and that time frame and
his his era, yeah way worsethan ours, and then not that I
went to church growing up too.
Speaker 3 (37:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:30):
Yeah, yeah, yeah I mean.
And definitely the era too islike the older you are, the more
the church was more prevalentin your life.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
The more prevalent and the being homosexual, all
that type of shit Exactly.
Speaker 3 (37:44):
Exactly, you're 100% right, way, way worse.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
That's like you're 100% right, Way, way worse.
Speaker 3 (37:48):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
Especially the deeper in the hood you go.
I'm sure this is not a thing.
Yeah, I guess he just was likeman, fuck it, I'm finna, just
drop the bomb.
Speaker 1 (37:59):
Yeah, yeah yeah, we'll see.
Yeah, I mean, but you had.
I mean there was now that Ilook back on.
Well, I knew it then it's notlike I need to look back and
reflect there were gay people inthe neighborhood like that
didn't come out, yet that verymuch did questionable shit.
Like well, I saw this older gaykid.
(38:25):
Well, he wasn't, I didn't knowhim to be gay at that moment,
but he tried to see my dick when, I was younger, that was very
like I.
I was like 10 and I was likeyeah, no, yeah, I was like no, I
was, it was.
It was very weird.
I'll tell the story.
Um, I've told it on the lastpodcast, why not now?
(38:47):
So it was.
You know how people flashpeople trying to be funny.
Uh-huh yeah yeah, and this onekid, he flashed everybody, like
when he got in the house hepulled out his pants and
everybody ew, yeah, yeah, yeahand.
Speaker 3 (39:06):
I guess, he had liked it.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
Yeah, yeah, liked it.
Your turn who's next.
Speaker 1 (39:14):
Yeah, so that's hilarious.
Speaker 3 (39:16):
Y'all wanna play, right yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:23):
So we.
So he's a childhood.
My dad and his uncle are bestfriends so he's like a family
member so it's really not funnybut that's hilarious so, and
(39:44):
I'll wrap up real quick and sowe go to back to my house and
watch, watching a movie, andthen he shuts the door and I'm
like that's weird, whatever youknow.
I mean yeah, yeah, so I'm thebunk man, I'm watching spy kids
or some shit 3d is fire yeah,yeah, yeah.
(40:06):
And then you know I'm sittingdown.
I have, like the covers over meyou're the only person that's
ever laughed at this, by the wayyeah like so.
So I have the covers over meand I feel like like like a
tarantula on my leg.
I'm like bruh if I reveal thatthere's a tarantula right here,
(40:30):
I'm a scream for good yeah, like, yeah, you like you don't wanna
look down and see the tarantulayeah so I feel it, and then it
gets right here.
Then that zipper, I was likewhat do you do?
It like now, it's not atarantula, I'm like we doing you
know?
I don't know what the wordswere.
But it was probably Somethinglike I wanna see your dick, yeah
(40:51):
, yeah, like.
Of course that wasn't the words.
We're kids.
He's like he's my brother's age, so he's like Three and a half.
Four years older than me, so sohe's probably Kanye West's age
At this time.
Speaker 3 (41:03):
Yeah, exactly yeah, stage at this time, Exactly yeah
.
Speaker 1 (41:06):
And then he was like yeah, so-and-so.
Yeah, so does Dick.
I was like that's so-and-so.
Speaker 3 (41:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (41:15):
I said that's him.
You know I am.
Yeah, I was like nah what?
The fuck yeah.
Speaker 2 (41:22):
That's crazy.
Speaker 1 (41:24):
And I forgot what happened.
Then I remember telling youknow, telling a family member,
uh-huh, and it was like, oh, youshould have beat his ass.
Speaker 2 (41:32):
Yeah, I didn't know where this was going.
Speaker 1 (41:34):
Yeah, yeah, yeah but no, I was just saying like we
know that's long story short tosay you know what gay is?
Yeah, oh, no, for sure, yeah,that was really kind of where I
was going with it.
Yeah, even at 9 10 I knew whatgay was yeah, yeah, yeah and so
yeah, yeah, uh.
So, but you know some people,because he talked about the kind
(41:55):
of west talked about, or yay,whatever, talked about addiction
from porn uh uh, I'm justlaughing at you who's next?
Speaker 2 (42:05):
oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, the closing the door is crazy.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (42:10):
And so because you know the family member, we're
all ages and I told I was.
The thing about it which is thesad part, is like I was like
kind of confessing Uh-huh, likebro, this happened to me.
Speaker 3 (42:22):
You know, and know, and then it was like kind of
joking, like you, you're, you'repunk, you should have actually
fought him, but my head was likebruh, yeah, I'm y'all bigger
than me I ain't gonna win.
Speaker 1 (42:38):
That you know what I mean.
Yeah, yeah, that's y'all's age.
You know what I mean.
Right, I'm definitely going toget you know ran over yeah yeah
yeah, yeah, yeah, oh.
Speaker 2 (42:44):
So that was just like you were just trying to get
somebody to hear you.
Speaker 1 (42:52):
I think, when I look back on it, the feeling that I
got from it was like me tryingto like somebody, trying to say,
hey, this happened to me, I gotsexually assaulted and nobody
wouldn't hear you Like I thoughtthey were going to ride for me.
Speaker 2 (43:07):
You know that moment, yeah yeah like I don't know if
I wanted him to get his ass beatyeah but it was more like hey,
this happened to me yeah, andthey just like it just wasn't
the reaction that you wanted.
Speaker 1 (43:22):
Yeah yeah, yeah, like oh, you whole ass nigga.
What's the reaction?
That's not what they said.
They didn't say you should havebeat his ass.
It was like, yeah, he's ateenager and I'm not.
Speaker 2 (43:33):
Oh right, yeah, yeah, yeah, damn, yeah, but whatever
I mean, it is what it is.
Yeah, yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker 1 (43:41):
Yeah, so we're coming up.
Speaker 2 (43:45):
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, oh.
So yeah, it's right on themoney.
Speaker 1 (43:47):
Exactly All right.
Well, this was a good episode.
Yeah, we got to chop it in realquick, but we'll be back.
This is Two for the Culture.
We love y'all.
Speaker 2 (43:56):
All right peace.
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