May 21, 2025 • 52 mins
Justin and Steven share their summer fitness goals and recent dining experiences while unpacking the surprising developments in the high-profile Diddy trial.
• Justin breaks down his three-step fitness plan: consistent gym attendance, intermittent fasting, and calorie management
• Steven recalls a humbling experience at a boxing class where he pushed himself to the limit
• Justin shares his experience at Eddie V's and Pearl Diver, highlighting the unique cocktails and atmosphere
• Proud father moment as Justin watches his daughter Kaya perform in a Peter Pan production
• Deep dive into the Diddy trial, questioning why it seems focused on domestic violence rather than more serious allegations
• Discussion about why the prosecution might be "fighting with both hands tied" and protecting more powerful figures
• Analysis of how public perception of the case is shifting to sympathy for Diddy based on the evidence presented
• Speculation that the prosecution's approach may not lead to a conviction on the serious charges
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
And we are back for another episode of Two for the
Culture.
I'm Justin Devante.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
I'm Steven.
Speaker 1 (00:05):
Wright yes sir, we're back.
How you feeling, man?
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Feel good, bro, feel good.
Just came from the gym.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
So yeah, Getting back in the swing of things.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah .
Speaker 1 (00:17):
You got big summer plans.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
What you mean?
Body wash, yeah, yeah, yeah, Ido want to wise, yeah, I do
wanna.
I do wanna hit another level bysummer.
Summer's right around thecorner, I do, I.
I envision me being invited toa pool party and not wanting to
go, but just going anyway, so Icould on when I'm going that's a
(00:40):
hell of a body transformationthat's a hell of a body
transformation.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
It is well, I guess pool parties is all you know.
It's all summer.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Yeah, I haven't really.
I don't remember the last timeI even went to a pool party.
Me neither.
Yeah, it sounds like somecollege type stuff Right, right
Well yeah, I guess, yeah, yeah,there's going to be pool.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
I'm sure there's going to be pool parties to go
to.
Uh-huh.
Yeah, I remember last yearinvited to one, but besides that
nah.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
For real yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
I was like, yeah, I'm good.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Yeah, I know, that's why I'm like do.
I really want to go Nah.
But I have been working out, sofuck it.
I want to get to that point.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Do you have just more of a weight loss goal?
If I can just lose a little bitof weight at a time, then I'm
good.
I'm not going to try to rush ittoo much, just take it step by
step and just consistently be inthe gym, which I feel like I've
been doing.
So that's step one.
Now step two is just makingsure intermittent fasting.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Yeah, yeah, so that's really step two.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
I'm going to definitely get back into doing
that shit for real, yeah, sothat's step two.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
So now and then step three will be like, and I guess
I'll be covering both at thesame time as diet management.
Yeah, yeah, Because I've played.
I've been just playing with itin and out of it, but I've
gotten really good at step oneuh-huh um, and I feel good about
step one, so now step two andthree are kind of intermingled,
and so that's going to be mynext what's step two or three?
(02:16):
that's the intermittent fastingand then also the uh dieting
portion of it oh yeah yeah, soI've been inconsistent with like
take making sure I'm doingcalorie management and putting
the numbers and then fasting,like last week.
I did pretty good on fasting,yeah, but over the weekend I
didn't because I went to eddiev's yeah are you familiar with
(02:38):
eddie v's?
Uh-uh it's like a um finedining seafood experience type
of thing.
Yeah, it was cool.
I really enjoyed my time.
The service was good and thefood I had is called Parmesan
sole.
It's S-O-L-E, I guess.
(02:59):
Oh okay, it's like a type offish.
What are you like, dang?
Speaker 2 (03:03):
No, parmesan, that's like dang.
No Parmesan, that's cheeseright.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Yeah, exactly.
So it was cool.
It was very you could.
The fish taste wasn't strong,so if you don't like fish but
you wanted to try it, that wouldbe a good one to go to.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Oh, okay.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Yeah, yeah, my girlfriend.
She loves lamb chops, so that'spretty much what she gets at
every single restaurant.
We had lamb chops across thecity.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Trying it at different places.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
I still feel like the ones we made at the house are
still better than any otherplaces we had.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Literally.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
It's not even close to me.
Yeah, but nonetheless we hadher try it.
Yeah, it's not even really evenclose to me.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, butnonetheless they.
So we had her as I tried it,like, yeah, it's still mad yeah,
yeah, he wasn't really messingwith it um, it was.
It's cool.
I mean, that's what she loves.
I like lamb chops too, but youknow, I'm gonna try something
different, definitely like Idon't go around make uh, buying
steaks from like steak houses,yeah, unless they doing it
(04:04):
different.
You, you know completelydifferent.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Than how you cook it.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
It gotta be better than mine, it can't be like the
steaks I have are literally mid,literally.
This is nothing challenging tothis, so you gotta really do
this.
Your steaks gotta be on adifferent level.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
I haven't really eaten steak in a while actually.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
I'm, I'm just gonna try probably something that dish
that probably couldn't make, soI've tried the problems I saw,
cuz I know I've never had itmm-hmm and see if I okay.
I probably can't really do thisat the house like that mm-hmm.
Take some time yeah, so thatwas good, the banana faster,
it's good.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
I always like to get crab cakes if I can I love crab
cakes yeah, that was good,what's all in crab cakes um crap
.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, like breadcrumbs okay, okay,
okay, okay yeah, it's just likea, like a cake, yeah I get what
you're saying.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
I remember now yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
So that was a cool experience.
Then we went out to um damn it.
I'm blanking on the name startwith a p yeah, pearl diver yeah
yeah, pearl diver.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
However, when I got there but I did I definitely
remember you saying somethingyeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
So pearl diver was cool.
Now that was out, because I'vetried to get you out to yeah and
um, that was cool.
Um, we had drinks.
They have like a differentbunch of menus with different
types of drinks on it oh and um.
I had this banana banana drink,which was like whiskey and
banana, and I had this orangesomething and it just has
(05:38):
different types of um likedrinks that you can get that you
probably really couldn't getanywhere else.
Yeah, and it was cool theyplayed.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
The music was like old school mixed with pop stuff
no, like it was it was a vibefor it were there people
performing?
Speaker 1 (05:54):
uh, nah, yeah it's.
It's east nashville, so that'slike a hippie spot oh, okay yeah
, yeah, east nashville is ingeneral, not just Pearl Diver is
.
So anywhere you're going to go,you're going to get people
that's tatted up hippie lookingnose rings.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, I get what you're saying.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
But it's cool, it's relaxed.
You're going to really enjoyyourself for real.
Yeah, no, I'm going to have todo that.
Um, I think I was just burntout or probably probably about
to crash at that point.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Yeah, I think so.
Yeah, that's what it sounded,like you was about to crash.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, every time,every time you ask me, I'll be
wanting to go places with you,but like it'd be like your ass
right, literally at the moment,or like when, whatever my
decision, it's already done.
It's like that happens all thefucking time, like there'll be
times where I'm like man, I cango to walmart, or I could just
(06:51):
order this right now and thenliterally as soon as I pick the
shit up, or it's outside orwhatever.
Then you're like are you tryingto go to walmart?
And I'm like bro, I wish youwould have said this, and that's
the same thing that happened,because, uh, oh yeah, kaya, she
had to play.
She did really well and thenafter that I don't know man I
(07:11):
went on the Taco Bell run forthe whole weekend.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
And you was like screaming that's my daughter.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
I did.
I didn't go crazy, it was thefirst one, so I didn't want to
like embarrass her.
She said she was just sonervous.
She had like three lines, butshe didn't look nervous at all
and she like projected her voiceit was.
It was very much like she knewwhat she was doing, she knew
what she came there for and um,how did she feel, like she did
(07:37):
afterwards she felt like she didgood.
She just said that she was justreally, really nervous, so it
was.
It was just like someone-liners, you know yeah, I saw
the picture you took.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
She got really dark that's what I thought I'm like
you're darker and then she'slike what?
Speaker 2 (07:56):
no, I'm not, I just I'm like have you been outside?
Yeah, so I think I think youknow that they play and stuff
outside, so okay, yeah but I, I,yeah, because she was basically
acting like she wasn't darker.
No, okay, then I'm like bro,you clearly darker, yeah, yeah
yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
It was just noticeable.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Uh-huh, I was like is she getting tans or something
I'm like bro, you got a tan,she's like no, I just yeah, and
I was second guessing, but um no, no, no, yeah, it was a fun
weekend.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
It was fun felt like a great father, yeah it was cool
.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
I'm like all right, bet, now I can start meeting
people and stuff like thatactually being around.
And um, oh yeah, I heard her.
Uh, as soon as I went in.
It was just like before.
I sat down first and then Ilooked up and then her
grandmother walked in and thenher grandmother and her granddad
, so they said by me, and then Iwas just like OK cool Little
(08:55):
family thing.
And then she gets to look out.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Was my grandmother happy to see?
Speaker 2 (09:02):
you, Sure, I mean, it seems like that she's always
smiling.
I think so because when Idropped her off which is random,
because we went to Publix toget a jug of water and she got a
drink for free- that water forfree?
Uh-uh, you know why I said that.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Because she used to be cold with the coupons.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Who, oh, you don't remember that she used to do
something like that with thecoupons.
Yeah, she used to always Damn.
That was a long time ago, butyeah, no, no, no, just summing
it up, after I was about toleave, and then she was like no,
I don't have a picture with youguys.
And then she was like no, Idon't have a picture with you
guys.
And then, like, she took apicture of us.
So I think that would meanshe's happy, I guess.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
I haven't seen her mother in a while, yeah no, she,
we randomly, that's what Imeant.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
We were at Publix and we randomly ran into her on our
day out.
Oh wow, she's like come on.
And then Kyra was like Grandma,I just did a drive.
And then Kyra was like so howam I going to get home?
Do I put my backpack in yourcar?
And then her grandmaimmediately rejected the thought
.
Clearly she was having her ownday.
She's like oh no, no, no.
(10:18):
No, you're going to be withyour dad yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
That was cool, though I know, but I'm glad you
enjoyed your time.
How was the play overall?
What was it?
It?
Speaker 2 (10:30):
was Peter Pan, so it was just a bunch of kids.
You know literally just kidsEvery now and then you'll see
the kids stop and be like, andthen like, look over at the
music director, something,something something something,
something, something, something,something.
(10:50):
You know, like they'll forgettheir lines a little bit.
Uh, sometimes, sometimes therewas a guy he clearly he's gonna
be in theater, clearly like hewas captain hook.
Do you remember the story?
uh, I know that he was, yeah,yeah so he was talking like this
and projecting his voice andlike I'm like all right, this
(11:13):
nigga's gonna be something in itin this acting world.
But uh, it was cool, it was, itwas fun, it was.
It was just a fun experience.
It kind of like brought me backto like damn, like this is what
, um, uh, uh, performing andlike the, the music director and
being a part of like the musicclass and they had this project
(11:35):
that they, they do it in frontof the, the crowd of parents,
and stuff.
That just like kind of broughtme back and I was like damn.
And then this was kaya's firsttime doing that, so she was just
like experiencing that for thefirst time, telling me like
there was so many people andlike everybody was looking at me
and then and it just kind oflike brought me back to uh, to
(11:57):
those times.
So that was that.
It was cool, to kind of likesee that, see that within her.
I don't know if she's going tobe I I don't know.
I don't know if she's going tolike get into that.
You know, like clearly, as shegets older, I'm going to be more
and more and more into thatworld.
So she's going to see it'sgoing to be around her.
So I wonder if she will.
(12:19):
But she wasn't, she wasn'tnervous, so i't know.
She said she doesn't like it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
And that's not going to be everybody's thing.
And you know, she also has hermama's genes too, right?
Speaker 2 (12:32):
I still be having stage fright.
I just fight through it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, it's not really my thing.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
Yeah, but some people have that passion.
I think you had that passionearly on.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Yeah, that passion.
I think you had that passionearly on.
Uh, yeah, I think like it'smore just so like creating
things.
Um, yeah, it still scares me alittle bit to be in front of
people.
I literally have to forget.
And I I just developedsomething to where, like I know
for a fact inside, I'm gonna befucking terrified when I'm in
front of people, and then Iliterally just switch a button,
(13:07):
just like don't listen to thatshit, just start talking.
I have to like, I have to havea whole process yeah, it's more
practice and rehearsal.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
For me, it's like a duty.
Yeah, like the times that I'vehad to public speak is more as
it was, that I had to.
Yeah.
Yeah, it wasn't like I want todo this and go out and do this,
but it's like, all right, I needto probably public speak or get
more comfortable doing it,because I know it wherever life
takes me, it's always, it'salways good trait to have yeah
(13:39):
it's like.
It's like I probably need totake boxing classes.
Yeah that I'll you know that,I'll know I'll need it.
But just in case you know youwant to protect yourself in case
you don't have a weapon on youor go out to the gun range or
things like that.
That's how I treat life.
It's like it's best to kind ofmitigate the risk, just in case
it happens.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
You're not unprepared yeah, yeah, I definitely agree
with that too.
Yeah, they be.
They be working the shit outthem boxers, though.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
Oh excuse me, maybe not pay for boxing classes, but
maybe have like a bag, apunching bag.
Oh like hey, let me correct myform, let me look on YouTube,
let me put like an hour aweekend.
You know what I?
Mean like an hour a weekend.
Uh-huh, you know I mean yeah,go to the gun range on, you know
(14:27):
, once every Saturday orwhatever mm-hmm this is like
it's best that I have it, justso I can be comfortable, because
it's better to be prepared thanunprepared absolutely yeah, but
like actually spend moneytaking budget classes like I
look at like as long as I'mabove the average, yeah, yeah,
one of the odds is like maybe Ishould.
(14:47):
I also need to learn thatcommunication to de-escalate
some shit.
If I know a nigga can beat myass.
Yeah, that's where that gunrange comes into play.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Yeah, okay, that's too funny yeah, no, I definitely
thought about it, though Ithought about it.
I'm going to do it eventually.
I'm going to do it eventually.
It's just like I got to getmore into my fitness bag to even
fuck with them.
I remember before I was likereally into fitness, not saying
(15:18):
I'm just like the fittest guyever but there was an event and
then, uh, me and my ex went toit and it was a boxing.
It was a boxing class.
It was, for it was like to hypeup the fast and furious film or
some shit like that.
And it was a boxing class andthey man, that shit was so
(15:38):
tiring, like it was in the mall,and I threw up in the middle of
the mall and I threw up when Iwas there like it was just so
hard it was.
Yeah, and at that time frame Iwasn't even working out at all
no, I'm just curious.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
I'm just, you know, asking the question uh-huh.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
So the boxing class was in the middle of the mall uh
, yeah, it was at a, a a place,though, like it was that okay,
yeah, like an actual store, okay.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
So it's not like the kiosk is in the middle of the
mall right now no, no no, okay,okay, that's what I'm thinking
no, no, no no people walking by.
They see you boxing dying?
Speaker 2 (16:21):
no, no, it was an actual how.
There are stores Like one ofthem was a fitness place.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
Okay, okay, yeah, so you just threw up in the middle
of the boxing place I walked.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
I mean I walked into the bathroom.
Oh, okay, you made that waymore dramatic.
I mean the middle of the mallthat it kind of was, but nobody
saw it except my ex.
Yeah, like you know, like thisplant next to you, you know how
they have like random plants inthe mall.
Like I just went straight up tothat shit star healing I
thought you said you went to thebathroom in the boxing match.
(17:00):
They, they like they worked usout so much that like I threw up
multiple times.
I threw up while I was in thereand then I went back out and
I'm like we ain't done, oh mygod.
So I went back.
You know my girls here they gotniggas that's boxing.
They can see me tired and Ijust did.
(17:22):
I just something in me justdidn't want to see these look at
me and be like, so I went backout there.
I went back out there for alittle bit.
My girl right, I look too howdid she feel?
did she like hold her head andsay I don't know, she, she's,
(17:42):
she's, she's really good with umencouragement.
Uh, I wouldn't say that she'sreally good with keeping herself
like oh yeah poised.
You know, like you wouldn'tknow if something's wrong, so
she's hard to read sometimes.
So I don't know, I, I couldn'teven, I couldn't even, I didn't
even had the energy to even likesee if she was going through
(18:05):
shit, because I was justthrowing up everywhere, yeah,
yeah, yeah.
But that made me want to likelater on like I gotta do better
than this I gotta get myselfinto this, because there's I'm
no match for these guys.
It's just like there there wasno.
There's bruh the hell no, if ais is jump roping for 15, 20
(18:27):
minutes, doing this with hishand, then going to jumping on a
uh treadmill, then going backto jump roping and then like bro
how am I, how I'm gonna?
be tired as yeah and like acouple of punches, let alone if
I miss one and most of my windis out it's over.
So yeah, that that inspired me,as well as um, michael b,
(18:48):
jordan and creed to like yeah,you know how much was the class?
Different levels, I don't know,I don't know if it was a
different.
Uh, I don't know how much itwas okay, yeah, but it's paid
for it.
No, no, no, no.
It was an event like.
So we as influencers, we I hadto look stupid now that I'm
(19:09):
really thinking about that butthey invited a bunch of
influencers to there to try thisclass for the movie uh for uh,
for what's Creed?
I don't know, maybe it mighthave been Creed, but it was for
some movie, some movie.
So most of the influencers thatwere there were clearly like
(19:30):
fitness people.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Yeah, so like I mean women, it was mostly women,
mostly women in there.
Were they bad, they're cute.
Yeah, you know the pick of.
You know influencers in LA thatkind of had the same type of
style.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
Was your ex participating or was she just
watching?
Speaker 2 (19:52):
No, she was in there.
I didn't understand it.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
How was she doing?
Speaker 2 (19:56):
She was tired, but she kept going I'm like you
don't even fucking work out yeahever.
Yeah, that she used to get onmy nerves like she.
She never had to work out ever,ever so I don't know if she
just did so much when she wasyounger that the metabolism just
stayed that's not a real thingI did.
(20:18):
I wouldn't think it would be,but that shit don't make sense.
It never made sense.
I had to get abs, I had to workfor them and eat, right.
She just woke up.
It looked like she just ranthree miles or some shit.
Yeah, I don't know.
There's some other shit goingon.
She made it through.
I don't know what was wrongwith me.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
That is hilarious.
Yeah through, I don't.
I don't know what was wrongwith me.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
That is hilarious yeah, yeah, yeah yeah it sucked.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Did you feel like if you would have consistently went
, you would actually be able toduck yeah and we yeah.
Yeah, I didn't know if it waslike more so for the workout?
Um, what do you mean?
Like this is actually a placeto where you get fit, not to
actually learn how to box.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
No, the whole place was, I think, a boxing place.
Yeah, the whole place was.
So everything there was kind offor that centered um, um, um
purpose okay, I got you.
Yeah, that was, that was a lot,that was a lot yeah, you really
realized like you really ain'tdoing for real, like you know
(21:24):
you, you meet someone who's at ahigher level of something that
you're doing and you're like,damn, like I ran a mile today,
but this just ran seven.
It's like how did yeah and he'sstill throwing on this like 100,
200 punch.
Now how?
The like people are out there.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Yeah, that's just work hard, dedication.
That's what you want to do,just consistency.
We can actually really get intoit.
There's a big trial that's beengoing on.
Have you been keeping up withthe DD trial?
I mean, I don't have a choice.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
You just open your phone and somebody's.
Have you been keeping up withthe DD trial?
Speaker 1 (22:02):
I mean I don't have a choice, Right, right.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
You, just you open your phone and it's somebody's
getting clapped.
Talking about getting clapped,I'm saying just like something
about some sexual with the trial.
Does this surprise you?
No, and I still don't thinkthey're gonna charge this with
nothing.
Okay, what do you feel like?
Speaker 1 (22:26):
I feel like I mean, you never know, but I just feel
like this is, this is the diddytrial that I didn't really want
yeah like I wanted the galanemaxwell, I wanted the Ghislaine
Maxwell.
Jeffrey Epstein Diddy trial.
You know what I mean.
Like hey, I know he did this tothis person.
(22:50):
He actually was not even thehead leader, it was actually
them folks.
You know I wanted the whole.
I know I wasn't going to get it, but you know there was a lot
of branches that Diddy falls inwith.
You know how you have like thefamily tree and you know he's
just like the bottom level.
There's top people that youknow that he worked with.
(23:13):
That I was hoping this is justa bunch of A.
He beat Cassie's ass.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
I don't even see a lot of that hey, he beat
cassie's ass.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
I don't even see a lot of that like that's, that's,
that's.
That's essentially what they're.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
It seems like they're convicting them up I think I
thought it was sex trafficking.
They're trying to get him onthat.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
But it's, it's really it.
But who?
Who cares that you, you paidfor a process, who that you
brought prostitutes in, like whyis that such a big thing?
I don't know.
Like.
Why is that even worth?
Even putting all this moneytowards.
It's something way bigger thanthat, and that's what's annoying
me about it.
(23:52):
It's like bro really, we onthat, and then even the latest
person who came in from DirtyMoney, don Richards.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
Yeah, that's right.
I thought her name was DonRashad.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Yeah, exactly, if you want to be fancy with it,
that's her actual name.
Yeah, it's like Simpsong.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
Yeah, I'm going to start going by that name, but
what about it?
Speaker 1 (24:16):
She just you know, hey, did you see Cassidy's ass
get beat?
Yeah, alright, bro, we get it.
Is that what this is about tobe?
We saw the video, like,actually, if this was truly
about sex trafficking, rico,follow the money.
Where's the money?
Nobody showed us receipts.
Yeah, there's no money trail.
(24:39):
So it's like what we really onfor real they just tried to
stick them with somethingbecause for what though?
I mean, I don't know I mean,yeah, that's what I'm saying.
It's like, this is like wealready know.
This is.
There's a bigger play at hand,because this is just like a
trial for nothing it's startingto be a trial for nothing this
(25:01):
time to be a trial for nothing.
Yeah, it's like, all right, weget it.
Hey, she got her.
She got 20 million, she got herrestitution, or she already got
it yeah, from Diddy she been got20 million from did oh cuz he
offered it like the next dayexactly yeah, yeah, she got 20,
but I thought that this isfederal yeah, but I'm saying
(25:24):
like, if this, this is reallyjust a child about what he did
to cassie and it's, it's abigger play at hand and we got
to sit here and watch this andthis is not.
But he got a whole conspiracyof killing tupac and biggie
right.
Yeah, there's way bigger stuffthan we can be on yeah, no, I
(25:49):
said that.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
I said that, um, you know, like the, the, the, the
thought of uh, what's his name?
Kid, cuddy, car blowing up,like I was saying, unless they
got some shit, like this niggafingerprint on the bomb, like
this nigga ain't going nowhere.
But you, what are we?
You, we just talking.
Is there no gossip?
Speaker 1 (26:10):
they don't even care about that.
I don't even think theymentioned that in the trial.
The most they mentioned kidcutting with takashi.
He's like oh, um they gotjealous.
You got jealous and theybrought both of y'all in a
meeting and talk about nothing,about a car we won't blowing up.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
That's how I know they don't care uh, no, they did
say something about her roomgot trashed when she started to
see him exactly that's what I'msaying.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
They said nothing about car blowing.
They talked about them datinghim, because they didn't mention
no car blowing up.
They, they ain't reallymentioning nothing, for real.
They just mentioning domesticviolence, and that's not even
what he's on trial for.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
Which is sex trafficking.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
That's the thing.
They're not even talking aboutsex trafficking her.
They're talking about the timethat he paid for prostitutes to
come in, come in to their cityor state or whatever.
He's not even talking aboutCassie's sex trafficking.
They're all trying to make thatHer testimony was more about
(27:12):
assault and him hiringprostitutes.
Yeah, that's what it's beenabout right now.
I don't know, and their nastysex campaigns and they'll be
drugged out on it.
Yeah, but everybody about rightnow?
Yeah, I don't know.
And they're nasty sexcapadesand they'll be drugged out on it
.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
Yeah, but like everybody already knew that,
yeah, it's like what's the point?
Speaker 1 (27:31):
And you got all this team of prosecutors, lawyers,
James Comey, the leader of theFBI's daughter.
You got so many people on thiscase for what?
Speaker 2 (27:46):
so many people on this case for what.
I feel like they knew clearlyhe's, he's, he's linked to some
shit for sure, but it seems likethey just I don't know.
I feel like this worked with somany other people as in like
like thug or that's, that's,that's not his tier, but I'm
just saying like waited for theright moment to where they had
enough information, or like dirt, like wait so they had the
(28:08):
right things, and then they wentin and it seems like they just
came at this on the wrong angle,to where it would be very hard
to close.
I don't know what's the?
I mean, are they just trying toget him in jail, like take away
his assets or something?
Everything that's coming out inthe trial just seems like it's
(28:31):
everything we already knew andit's nothing new for real yeah
or nothing, nothing to get himon.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
The thing about Rico is, you know, established
because of the mob and, you know, getting actual leaders put in
jail.
This is a one-man, rico.
Yeah, so that's one.
So you're just trying to builda combination of things to give
to, uh, give him his long, longterm, potentially life sentence,
(29:07):
and so you're just throwingeverything and just hoping that
sticks.
But it's, it's sore, piss poor,that it's just like, okay, what
are we doing?
Speaker 2 (29:18):
this is definitely getting so now.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
Now diddy's actually getting public sympathy,
sympathy, yeah, to where it'slike, okay, so y'all doing all
this?
Because it's because he, hebeat up cassie you, so you're
going to give him a long-termsentence for that.
But we already know he's beenthrough.
He's actually did worse things,yeah, and this is what it's
(29:42):
going to be.
So he's getting actuallygetting more public sympathy,
way more than we should have.
Because at first, you know,they were showing the justin
bieber videos.
Uh-huh, him bieber, beinguncomfortable around diddy.
You know what I mean.
Yeah, yeah, and he was hearingall types of conspiracies around
him.
And now it's like this is whatyou, what you gotta show for it.
(30:06):
You just saw it.
Hey, hey, don richard, did youever see him beat up cassie?
Yeah, all right, the wholepublic seen that.
Yeah, yeah, everybody wasshowing.
How much of a piece of crap didhe was yeah, yeah yeah.
So let's, let's move on toactual, real charges that we
thought y'all was going topresent.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
I just feel like the what is it called?
The case that they're trying tobuild, or whatever is in the
wrong.
It's not the right angle, so Ifeel like it's already over with
.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
Because the prosecution is fighting with
both hands tied behind theirback, because they're protecting
somebody but not presentingtrue charges.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
Who do you think they're protecting?
Speaker 1 (31:01):
I think they're protecting um.
I think they're protecting um,whoever was, who's ahead of
diddy and the record label thathe worked with at the time.
There's several, there'sseveral names I I just can't
remember, so I don't want to puton somebody, um, but there's
several music moguls that arebigger than diddy that I've did
worse.
(31:21):
I'm sure.
Yeah, that, um, that they can't, only they can't do so much
Like even, uh, like the um,what's the, what's the guy,
little ride lawsuit.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
The rod.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
Yeah yeah, he said he's the one who sued Diddy and
he had pictures and evidence ofwhat Diddy did.
He was the same person who waslike you know, there's a Philly
rapper who had sex with Diddyand there also was a guy that
just recently performed in theSuper Bowl that had sex with
Diddy.
I don't know if you rememberthat lawsuit, but yeah, yeah, so
(31:58):
that was the thing that youknow.
They was talking about MeekMill.
That's who they was talkingabout.
Meek Mill, that's who they wastalking about.
And then he was referring toUsher, and so Meek Mill was like
I ain't never did nothing gay,you know.
So, I'm sure you saw that.
Yeah, yeah.
And then he also on the lawsuit.
He talked about how Diddy shota man and then called the police
(32:20):
.
And then called, called apolice and a person named the
police officer that worked in la.
That was that um covered it upand he's like a police cover-up
and he does several differentcases, like even wanted did his
security guard work for michaeljackson and was the second
person on the scene when michaeljackson died and he was 20
(32:42):
years old, like 20 somethingyears old at the time, fresh out
of college, head of securityfor Michael Jackson.
Like, like, he had names, likespecific names, he had pictures
of the blood and crime scene.
Yeah, and then the um, thecrime scene was reported by the
news but it was lightly coveredand it showed like somebody was
(33:03):
shot up, shot outside the youknow the recording studio, but
actually it was shot, he wasshot inside.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
Just to cover it up.
Yeah, so he like, I mean I'msure at this point.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
Yeah, it was like Diddy would have had sex with
sex with other men, and he hadcameras everywhere around his
house.
He had film of everybody.
I wish I knew his name.
I'll just call him out.
I just can't remember, like theold man, the music mogul Quincy
Jones.
No, no, no, no, no, he was awhite man.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
Clive.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
Davis yes.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
Yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
Exactly.
Yeah, that's who it is.
Yeah, yes, yeah yeah, yeah,exactly yeah that's who it is.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
Yeah, yeah, yeah you found with me to say no, no, I
didn't.
Uh, yeah, exactly.
Yeah, yeah, like him, yeah, um,um, like you that he this is
according to little rod, likewhat you know, be with diddy in
his room for hours and I'm suresomething's going on there
uh-huh yeah, so I mean there'sactual crimes that did he commit
(34:07):
, that you can really get themon a rico for real, but you're
not even touching that becausethere's so many um uh vines to
that tree that you don't want togo, you don't want to touch, so
you have to completely leave itout.
That's what I'm saying.
The prosecution has a handsbeside that, behind the back,
because they're processing,because it is just shows that
(34:28):
about the whole DiMaggio case onwhy this is actually happening
oh you know, with the liquorcompany oh yeah actually filing
a civil rights lawsuit becausehe's accusing, not promoting the
brand, but was reported becausedid he had De Leon and the
what's uh?
No, that's not.
(34:49):
No, it's um.
No, it was uh, what's umClooney's liquor.
George Clooney yeah, what's hehas?
He has the big tequila.
Casamigos, I thought that wasthe rock no, the rock has uh,
yeah, yeah so but uh, thatDiMaggio's pushing them
(35:11):
promoting their brand but notpromoting Diddy on any suit.
And they wind up settlingbecause of all this stuff.
Diddy couldn't fight thislawsuit, and then this one.
Yeah yeah.
So it just keeps on buildingthis public sympathy of Diddy,
and it was really never supposedto be that way.
But now people are like wantingto see Diddy get out, because
(35:33):
now it's starting to be unjust,according to the evidence you're
giving.
Now, if you could actuallyrelease you, if you could untie
your hands and and actually geteverybody, if you truly wanted
to get everybody under Rico, youcould.
You could get Clyde.
You, if it's a Rico Rico, youcould.
You could get Clyde.
If it's a Rico charge, you canget Clyde Davis, because it's
more than just one person.
(35:54):
Rico ain't supposed to be aone-man.
Rico, it's supposed to beseveral.
You can actually do it if youwanted to.
But you got your hands tied andnow they're looking stupid and
a waste of time.
Waste of time.
Pay your money.
Now, what it is, if anything,it's um, it's just dominating
the headlines.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
So whenever you know people can get passed through
and under the rug, um, becausethis is so dominant that that'll
be a thing that can happen aswell you think people are just
scared because most of thosepeople not most of, but some of
those people that's on thattrial, I feel like they would
have never said anything andthey would have never even been
(36:36):
on the trial.
Even if, um, they would havenever been on the trial, uh, if
it wasn't like a court order toshow up yeah, yeah, I'm sure I
mean, and they cassie sued diddy, so that was the easy one if
you can go.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
According to the lawsuit you get seen don
richards sued diddy, so that'sanother one.
You're like brad, you know, sothat's another one that you can
grab.
You're gonna subpoena, but yeah, of course yeah, yeah, you get
your.
He did.
He has several high-ranked paidlawyers that are phenomenal at
(37:13):
that job.
They're going to make your asslook stupid and the prosecution
ain't your savior.
They don't love you like that.
They ain't going to take care ofyou.
So you with vicious you knowwhat I mean.
Picture, you know you gotvicious.
You would.
This is you know I mean.
Picture, you know you gotvicious rock-rollers coming at
you and you just got somebodyholding a hand out like just
(37:37):
covering themselves.
That's only gonna last for solong.
Yeah, they eventually gonnamove the hell out the way and
let you get bitten up theprostitution in for themselves.
So when they going oh, thishappened, but in 2021, you asked
for that.
Happened back in 2015, but in2021 you asked for Diddy for a
(37:58):
job mm-hmm and it told her howmuch of a great man you were mmm
so this is clearly a murdergrab, is it not?
you just sued him, but just lastyear, you know.
I mean, so they freaking lineby line.
He has proof, he has receipts,he has whole text message chains
.
The prosecution don't give adamn like that.
(38:18):
They ain't going through lineby line text messages because
these these law, these um peoplewho are working for diddy got
people who work for them and aregoing through everything with a
fine tooth comb highlightingthere's no, those prosecutions
don't stand a chance when itcomes to that.
So the defense is going to eatthem alive every single time and
(38:41):
make them look stupid.
And when you got your hand tiedbehind your back, I mean I can
never say what a jury's going todo, but you got to be convicted
by 12 and nobody.
I don't think nobody's gonna getcomfortable, based off of what
I'm seeing oh god nobody's gonnafeel comfortable giving a man a
life sentence for that Iwouldn't even want to be there
(39:03):
as a jury no okay, I was justsaying yeah yeah, yeah, I mean,
yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
Yeah, like I wouldn't even want to, I'll be, I'll,
nah, bro, that, that that'sthat's.
Can you just imagine like it'sup to you, uh, to put like
somebody away?
That's possibly like a reallybad, yeah, and then you know,
you and your whole family is nowpossibly in danger.
(39:30):
For that, you know, I'm sayingI don't, I don't see anybody
wanting to do that shit for real.
Some of it sounds like asuicide mission just off of I
don't know, I don't know how badthis dude is or whatever.
But you know, the storiestravel.
So, like you know, we hear alot of things and a lot of this
shit we already heard.
(39:50):
But there's a whole lot ofother shit that we heard about
this man that it just soundsscary a little bit.
Speaker 1 (39:59):
Yeah, I mean, I don't think he would have gone away
with that because he's alreadyconvicted at that point you
think so.
Yeah, I mean I'm sure there's alot more people on his list to
get revenge on, and the firstpeople are the people who
testified against him.
Speaker 2 (40:14):
Oh yeah, facts.
That's what I'm saying too.
Speaker 1 (40:18):
And the people who put him in jail was the
prosecution.
So there's a long list of folksyou want to get after before
you really get to the jury.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:29):
Yeah, you just, you never know, bro, you never know
how powerful these people are.
Yeah, I'm sure.
Speaker 1 (40:33):
Yeah, that's a lot of work when you actually know the
people who put you in jail'sname last name and where to find
them.
Y'all got mutual friends.
Speaker 2 (40:42):
That's that's, that's that's man.
Speaker 1 (40:44):
And then you're, now that you're in jail, so
everything's recorded, soeverything's going to be a lot
tougher to communicate.
Speaker 2 (40:51):
It just seems like this man's going to be home soon
.
Speaker 1 (40:54):
Oh, I mean, if that's where they're going with it now
, maybe they got some real.
All the evidence is presentedto each side, so it's not like
you're going to show somethingthat the defense hasn't seen.
Uh-huh.
Like even the text messages thatthey show cassie, the, the
prosecution never saw that.
Because, like, hey, you hadthis whole thing you're talking
(41:19):
about.
There's like, hey, that wasn'tpresenting evidence and they,
they spun it a different way.
And there's like, hey, cassieread this like I don't know, I
don't, I don't know legal stuff.
But there's like this man ishere for the rest of you know,
this is a trial that could puthim in the rest of his life.
You know you said a lot thatyesterday, so we did some things
(41:42):
to respond to that we have.
That contradicts a lot of whatyou said.
Yeah, and a lot of it is like,yeah, this is not how somebody
who get the ass beat on aregular basis, like if, if I'm
scared of somebody, I ain'tgonna cheat on that person, yeah
(42:03):
, like yeah, yeah, I was like Iknow I'm coming home to ass
kicking.
You know what I mean.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And no matter if my lady beatmy ass regularly or sometimes
and brutally, why would I stickmy penis in another chick Pussy?
(42:24):
Don't feel that good.
Yeah.
To note hey, the people who arehandling me is on her payroll,
so they know I'm gonna be outhere with somebody else uh-huh,
right, right, it's gonna comeback.
Speaker 2 (42:39):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, hmm, uh, it's, it's
just not set up.
It's not set up to where I feellike this man is going down.
I think that I think, when itall happened and they, they
broke into his house and theswat, you know, everybody showed
up.
Whatever I, I was like, oh,this shit is real.
(42:59):
Yeah, I was like, oh, they'reabout to get his ass, exactly,
exactly, thank you I was likedamn, they're really, they gonna
get them on some exactly,exactly so you did.
Speaker 1 (43:09):
That's what.
I'm glad you brought that pointup, because you're saying they
did all that, rated both, allhis three homes just to tell me
that he'd been beating cassie'sass for years like you're like
that.
That sounds crazy to me.
Speaker 2 (43:24):
No, they, that's what I'm saying.
The angle must have switchedsomething, something happened.
Speaker 1 (43:30):
Yeah, he stopped this man from getting on the jet.
You arrested his.
Speaker 2 (43:33):
This man was down there, Pablo Escobar.
Speaker 1 (43:36):
Yeah, like this is what you did it for.
Like that sounds so dumb to me.
Yeah, yeah, to be a wholedomestic violence face.
Oh, he got all these charges,rico.
He must have did something.
Hey, don Richardard, did yousee his?
Him beat cassie ass?
Yes, he threw a frying pan athim, which is ridiculous.
Don't run, yeah yeah, uh yeah,whatever, sir, yeah, so that's
(44:01):
kind of where I'm at with it.
Speaker 2 (44:02):
It's like, bro, what we really doing that was a movie
like that was crazy.
Yeah, I was like damn.
They got his ass for show showand then they said it was.
I don't know if they said itwas rico, I think.
Speaker 1 (44:13):
I think it was sex trafficking then I mean, yeah,
basically it's, it's a bunch ofstuff uh-huh sex trafficking.
They add whatever charges youcan throw at it yeah yeah, yeah,
added in you buy?
A 12.
Speaker 2 (44:27):
I just knew, I knew they had them.
Yeah, I was like damn.
And then people you know starttalking like oh shit, if he
going down, then Jay-Z going togo down.
Right right, jay going to godown.
Yeah, nah, they talking aboutfucking.
They talking about a strippercame over and he wanted to smash
(44:50):
on Cassie.
Speaker 1 (44:51):
Yeah, yeah, they're talking about just sex with.
Hey you drunk piss.
All this is just disgusting.
Speaker 2 (44:58):
I'm not surprised about any of it.
Yeah, yeah, nothing.
Speaker 1 (45:02):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you rub the semen on your
nipples.
It's like all this is justtrifling that was a little.
That's disgusting.
That was a little that'sdisgusting.
Speaker 2 (45:10):
But that was a little okay, but I'm still not
surprised about any of thisstuff.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's like weknew his parties was crazy.
We knew that stuff got crazy.
Yeah, of course we're going toget all this information.
So I don't know, I don't see ityear.
How long is the trial?
Speaker 1 (45:26):
I thought it was supposed to be two weeks, but
maybe it's eight, I don't knowas long as hell that's and what?
Speaker 2 (45:34):
how does that go, do they?
They go every other day, orevery day, five days a week shit
, okay, yeah, and for how long?
Uh, maybe eight weeks, maybe ohno, no, I meant like in a day
oh, oh, I don't know, yeah, Idon't know how that goes.
Speaker 1 (45:50):
Three to five hours, that's crazy.
Yeah, that's a lot I mean.
Speaker 2 (45:55):
so it's the beginning , then it just started right.
Speaker 1 (45:58):
Last week.
Speaker 2 (45:59):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (45:59):
Which is supposed to do more than this.
Catch you when I'm staying forthree or four days.
So she's done and that was thestar witness by the way, so that
was supposed to destroy him,and he gained more sympathy but
(46:20):
I mean, she was already paid off.
Speaker 2 (46:23):
she clearly didn't want to come, so what did they
think?
They forced her to be there?
Speaker 1 (46:33):
I mean, you got subpoenaed.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (46:36):
If you don't show up, you'll have jail time, Right.
So I'm saying what would youexpect to happen for real?
Speaker 1 (46:43):
Well, I mean she, she already got the money to not
say anything, right?
I mean, she did she.
What it sounded like to me wasI still got a public image to
protect, so I can't show I'm thewild one in this case.
So I got to defend myself,protect myself and point the
(47:04):
finger at him mostly.
So she did that.
She pointed a lot and said alot, but it more was victim
mentality, as you probablyexpected.
Um, but then the but her shitwas easily, to easily, debunked
you're right because she was awilling participant after a
certain amount of years.
You're, no, I mean, you're, uh,you're choosing I mean one's so
(47:29):
that she broke up with daddybefore, so she wasn't held
captive yeah, uh, yeah yeah,they talked about michael b
jordan.
Her dating michael b jordan.
Her dating cutting her,cheating on him.
Her shooting films when he'snot there.
Her getting mad when he she'sdating other people.
Her being jealous of kim porteryeah, yeah, so her being, you
(47:53):
know, diddy coming to um her aidwhen he felt like she was too
drugged out and took her to awellness center yeah, so it was.
It was showing like like hey,he's not as bad as y'all say he
is.
Now he is bad, but he loved her.
That was clear.
(48:14):
Yeah, yeah, they loved eachother and they even asked hey,
do you still love?
Have love for him.
She's like I have love for thepast and then now that what we
talking about right now likethat what we talking about right
now?
Speaker 2 (48:28):
ain't that what we talking about right now?
Speaker 1 (48:30):
exactly that was just saying that I still have
feelings for him.
Yeah, and not only that, shecheated on her, now husband with
Diddy on FaceTime.
Speaker 2 (48:44):
I didn't.
Oh, that's what that was shecheated on him with her.
I just remember reading that hecalled her or something.
Speaker 1 (48:53):
Yeah, exactly One time yeah.
Speaker 2 (48:54):
Not that he cheated, that she cheated.
Speaker 1 (48:56):
It was several instances of weird things like
that.
Mm-hmm.
I mean, he was her trainer.
That was paid for by Diddy.
Speaker 2 (49:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (49:06):
Yeah, so.
Speaker 2 (49:09):
This is a lot.
This is a lot.
This is a lot.
I don't think nothing gonnahappen to him.
I feel like he's gonna um shit.
Yeah, I feel like he's gonnaget out, and it's just gonna be
a little different when he getsout, cause, like a whole bunch
of people were quiet exceptBoosie, yeah yeah mean Boosie's
(49:31):
always been honest about how hefeels, so he's never really
changed on that.
You can appreciate that at leasthe ain't gonna lie for nobody
or hide how he feels, and Iappreciate that about him, wrong
(49:53):
or right yeah, I mean he justcaught it like you know how
everybody can just see it rightnow that it's just like bro, you
arrested this man to say thathe's a freak, like that's what
it's looking like.
So I don't know.
I don't know.
Unless it's like it's, thiscase will be closed and then
(50:13):
there is a new case.
I think this shit over withyeah, all the other ones.
It seemed like it was prettymuch dead set.
They were going to jail, likebill cosby or who else, like the
epstein people did.
It was just like to.
I'm pretty sure this is a deepsituation too, but they were
(50:35):
just hitting them with peopleand situations and the clear
evidence and right now it justdoesn't seem like it's going
that way we'll see what youthink gonna happen I think, yeah
, yeah, I, I don't.
Speaker 1 (50:55):
I don't know for sure , because I mean, did he pay for
prostitutes here?
So so, yeah, that's clear.
I, I think that you need tofind the money before you
convict him and honestly, Ithink that if they're, if I'm on
a jury, it's like bruh, it's awaste of time.
(51:17):
Niggas do this all the time isthis what we're really here for?
I'm not.
I'm not.
I don't feel comfortable addingthis on to rico, if you want to
give him two years, orprostitution is what Prostitutes
get out in a week, in a day.
Speaker 2 (51:35):
I mean, is that really a thing now?
Speaker 1 (51:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (51:39):
I mean escorts are.
Speaker 1 (51:41):
So I mean you can convict him on it, but yeah, you
can't convict him on it.
I mean on prostitution, I meanif you get caught paying for
cooch then that's illegal.
Okay, I guess.
I think we did it.
Yeah, oh yeah.
All right.
Well, this is two for theculture.
(52:01):
We'll be back for anotherepisode.
Speaker 2 (52:03):
All right.
Speaker 1 (52:03):
Yes, sir.
And we are back for another episode of Two for the
Culture.
I'm Justin Devante.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
I'm Steven.
Speaker 1 (00:05):
Wright yes sir, we're back.
How you feeling, man?
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Feel good, bro, feel good.
Just came from the gym.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
So yeah, Getting back in the swing of things.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah .
Speaker 1 (00:17):
You got big summer plans.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
What you mean?
Body wash, yeah, yeah, yeah, Ido want to wise, yeah, I do
wanna.
I do wanna hit another level bysummer.
Summer's right around thecorner, I do, I.
I envision me being invited toa pool party and not wanting to
go, but just going anyway, so Icould on when I'm going that's a
(00:40):
hell of a body transformationthat's a hell of a body
transformation.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
It is well, I guess pool parties is all you know.
It's all summer.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Yeah, I haven't really.
I don't remember the last timeI even went to a pool party.
Me neither.
Yeah, it sounds like somecollege type stuff Right, right
Well yeah, I guess, yeah, yeah,there's going to be pool.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
I'm sure there's going to be pool parties to go
to.
Uh-huh.
Yeah, I remember last yearinvited to one, but besides that
nah.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
For real yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
I was like, yeah, I'm good.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Yeah, I know, that's why I'm like do.
I really want to go Nah.
But I have been working out, sofuck it.
I want to get to that point.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Do you have just more of a weight loss goal?
If I can just lose a little bitof weight at a time, then I'm
good.
I'm not going to try to rush ittoo much, just take it step by
step and just consistently be inthe gym, which I feel like I've
been doing.
So that's step one.
Now step two is just makingsure intermittent fasting.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Yeah, yeah, so that's really step two.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
I'm going to definitely get back into doing
that shit for real, yeah, sothat's step two.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
So now and then step three will be like, and I guess
I'll be covering both at thesame time as diet management.
Yeah, yeah, Because I've played.
I've been just playing with itin and out of it, but I've
gotten really good at step oneuh-huh um, and I feel good about
step one, so now step two andthree are kind of intermingled,
and so that's going to be mynext what's step two or three?
(02:16):
that's the intermittent fastingand then also the uh dieting
portion of it oh yeah yeah, soI've been inconsistent with like
take making sure I'm doingcalorie management and putting
the numbers and then fasting,like last week.
I did pretty good on fasting,yeah, but over the weekend I
didn't because I went to eddiev's yeah are you familiar with
(02:38):
eddie v's?
Uh-uh it's like a um finedining seafood experience type
of thing.
Yeah, it was cool.
I really enjoyed my time.
The service was good and thefood I had is called Parmesan
sole.
It's S-O-L-E, I guess.
(02:59):
Oh okay, it's like a type offish.
What are you like, dang?
Speaker 2 (03:03):
No, parmesan, that's like dang.
No Parmesan, that's cheeseright.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Yeah, exactly.
So it was cool.
It was very you could.
The fish taste wasn't strong,so if you don't like fish but
you wanted to try it, that wouldbe a good one to go to.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Oh, okay.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Yeah, yeah, my girlfriend.
She loves lamb chops, so that'spretty much what she gets at
every single restaurant.
We had lamb chops across thecity.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Trying it at different places.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
I still feel like the ones we made at the house are
still better than any otherplaces we had.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Literally.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
It's not even close to me.
Yeah, but nonetheless we hadher try it.
Yeah, it's not even really evenclose to me.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, butnonetheless they.
So we had her as I tried it,like, yeah, it's still mad yeah,
yeah, he wasn't really messingwith it um, it was.
It's cool.
I mean, that's what she loves.
I like lamb chops too, but youknow, I'm gonna try something
different, definitely like Idon't go around make uh, buying
steaks from like steak houses,yeah, unless they doing it
(04:04):
different.
You, you know completelydifferent.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Than how you cook it.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
It gotta be better than mine, it can't be like the
steaks I have are literally mid,literally.
This is nothing challenging tothis, so you gotta really do
this.
Your steaks gotta be on adifferent level.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
I haven't really eaten steak in a while actually.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
I'm, I'm just gonna try probably something that dish
that probably couldn't make, soI've tried the problems I saw,
cuz I know I've never had itmm-hmm and see if I okay.
I probably can't really do thisat the house like that mm-hmm.
Take some time yeah, so thatwas good, the banana faster,
it's good.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
I always like to get crab cakes if I can I love crab
cakes yeah, that was good,what's all in crab cakes um crap
.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, like breadcrumbs okay, okay,
okay, okay yeah, it's just likea, like a cake, yeah I get what
you're saying.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
I remember now yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
So that was a cool experience.
Then we went out to um damn it.
I'm blanking on the name startwith a p yeah, pearl diver yeah
yeah, pearl diver.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
However, when I got there but I did I definitely
remember you saying somethingyeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
So pearl diver was cool.
Now that was out, because I'vetried to get you out to yeah and
um, that was cool.
Um, we had drinks.
They have like a differentbunch of menus with different
types of drinks on it oh and um.
I had this banana banana drink,which was like whiskey and
banana, and I had this orangesomething and it just has
(05:38):
different types of um likedrinks that you can get that you
probably really couldn't getanywhere else.
Yeah, and it was cool theyplayed.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
The music was like old school mixed with pop stuff
no, like it was it was a vibefor it were there people
performing?
Speaker 1 (05:54):
uh, nah, yeah it's.
It's east nashville, so that'slike a hippie spot oh, okay yeah
, yeah, east nashville is ingeneral, not just Pearl Diver is
.
So anywhere you're going to go,you're going to get people
that's tatted up hippie lookingnose rings.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, I get what you're saying.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
But it's cool, it's relaxed.
You're going to really enjoyyourself for real.
Yeah, no, I'm going to have todo that.
Um, I think I was just burntout or probably probably about
to crash at that point.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Yeah, I think so.
Yeah, that's what it sounded,like you was about to crash.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, every time,every time you ask me, I'll be
wanting to go places with you,but like it'd be like your ass
right, literally at the moment,or like when, whatever my
decision, it's already done.
It's like that happens all thefucking time, like there'll be
times where I'm like man, I cango to walmart, or I could just
(06:51):
order this right now and thenliterally as soon as I pick the
shit up, or it's outside orwhatever.
Then you're like are you tryingto go to walmart?
And I'm like bro, I wish youwould have said this, and that's
the same thing that happened,because, uh, oh yeah, kaya, she
had to play.
She did really well and thenafter that I don't know man I
(07:11):
went on the Taco Bell run forthe whole weekend.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
And you was like screaming that's my daughter.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
I did.
I didn't go crazy, it was thefirst one, so I didn't want to
like embarrass her.
She said she was just sonervous.
She had like three lines, butshe didn't look nervous at all
and she like projected her voiceit was.
It was very much like she knewwhat she was doing, she knew
what she came there for and um,how did she feel, like she did
(07:37):
afterwards she felt like she didgood.
She just said that she was justreally, really nervous, so it
was.
It was just like someone-liners, you know yeah, I saw
the picture you took.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
She got really dark that's what I thought I'm like
you're darker and then she'slike what?
Speaker 2 (07:56):
no, I'm not, I just I'm like have you been outside?
Yeah, so I think I think youknow that they play and stuff
outside, so okay, yeah but I, I,yeah, because she was basically
acting like she wasn't darker.
No, okay, then I'm like bro,you clearly darker, yeah, yeah
yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
It was just noticeable.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Uh-huh, I was like is she getting tans or something
I'm like bro, you got a tan,she's like no, I just yeah, and
I was second guessing, but um no, no, no, yeah, it was a fun
weekend.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
It was fun felt like a great father, yeah it was cool
.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
I'm like all right, bet, now I can start meeting
people and stuff like thatactually being around.
And um, oh yeah, I heard her.
Uh, as soon as I went in.
It was just like before.
I sat down first and then Ilooked up and then her
grandmother walked in and thenher grandmother and her granddad
, so they said by me, and then Iwas just like OK cool Little
(08:55):
family thing.
And then she gets to look out.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Was my grandmother happy to see?
Speaker 2 (09:02):
you, Sure, I mean, it seems like that she's always
smiling.
I think so because when Idropped her off which is random,
because we went to Publix toget a jug of water and she got a
drink for free- that water forfree?
Uh-uh, you know why I said that.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Because she used to be cold with the coupons.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Who, oh, you don't remember that she used to do
something like that with thecoupons.
Yeah, she used to always Damn.
That was a long time ago, butyeah, no, no, no, just summing
it up, after I was about toleave, and then she was like no,
I don't have a picture with youguys.
And then she was like no, Idon't have a picture with you
guys.
And then, like, she took apicture of us.
So I think that would meanshe's happy, I guess.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
I haven't seen her mother in a while, yeah no, she,
we randomly, that's what Imeant.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
We were at Publix and we randomly ran into her on our
day out.
Oh wow, she's like come on.
And then Kyra was like Grandma,I just did a drive.
And then Kyra was like so howam I going to get home?
Do I put my backpack in yourcar?
And then her grandmaimmediately rejected the thought
.
Clearly she was having her ownday.
She's like oh no, no, no.
(10:18):
No, you're going to be withyour dad yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
That was cool, though I know, but I'm glad you
enjoyed your time.
How was the play overall?
What was it?
It?
Speaker 2 (10:30):
was Peter Pan, so it was just a bunch of kids.
You know literally just kidsEvery now and then you'll see
the kids stop and be like, andthen like, look over at the
music director, something,something something something,
something, something, something,something.
(10:50):
You know, like they'll forgettheir lines a little bit.
Uh, sometimes, sometimes therewas a guy he clearly he's gonna
be in theater, clearly like hewas captain hook.
Do you remember the story?
uh, I know that he was, yeah,yeah so he was talking like this
and projecting his voice andlike I'm like all right, this
(11:13):
nigga's gonna be something in itin this acting world.
But uh, it was cool, it was, itwas fun, it was.
It was just a fun experience.
It kind of like brought me backto like damn, like this is what
, um, uh, uh, performing andlike the, the music director and
being a part of like the musicclass and they had this project
(11:35):
that they, they do it in frontof the, the crowd of parents,
and stuff.
That just like kind of broughtme back and I was like damn.
And then this was kaya's firsttime doing that, so she was just
like experiencing that for thefirst time, telling me like
there was so many people andlike everybody was looking at me
and then and it just kind oflike brought me back to uh, to
(11:57):
those times.
So that was that.
It was cool, to kind of likesee that, see that within her.
I don't know if she's going tobe I I don't know.
I don't know if she's going tolike get into that.
You know, like clearly, as shegets older, I'm going to be more
and more and more into thatworld.
So she's going to see it'sgoing to be around her.
So I wonder if she will.
(12:19):
But she wasn't, she wasn'tnervous, so i't know.
She said she doesn't like it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
And that's not going to be everybody's thing.
And you know, she also has hermama's genes too, right?
Speaker 2 (12:32):
I still be having stage fright.
I just fight through it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, it's not really my thing.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
Yeah, but some people have that passion.
I think you had that passionearly on.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Yeah, that passion.
I think you had that passionearly on.
Uh, yeah, I think like it'smore just so like creating
things.
Um, yeah, it still scares me alittle bit to be in front of
people.
I literally have to forget.
And I I just developedsomething to where, like I know
for a fact inside, I'm gonna befucking terrified when I'm in
front of people, and then Iliterally just switch a button,
(13:07):
just like don't listen to thatshit, just start talking.
I have to like, I have to havea whole process yeah, it's more
practice and rehearsal.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
For me, it's like a duty.
Yeah, like the times that I'vehad to public speak is more as
it was, that I had to.
Yeah.
Yeah, it wasn't like I want todo this and go out and do this,
but it's like, all right, I needto probably public speak or get
more comfortable doing it,because I know it wherever life
takes me, it's always, it'salways good trait to have yeah
(13:39):
it's like.
It's like I probably need totake boxing classes.
Yeah that I'll you know that,I'll know I'll need it.
But just in case you know youwant to protect yourself in case
you don't have a weapon on youor go out to the gun range or
things like that.
That's how I treat life.
It's like it's best to kind ofmitigate the risk, just in case
it happens.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
You're not unprepared yeah, yeah, I definitely agree
with that too.
Yeah, they be.
They be working the shit outthem boxers, though.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
Oh excuse me, maybe not pay for boxing classes, but
maybe have like a bag, apunching bag.
Oh like hey, let me correct myform, let me look on YouTube,
let me put like an hour aweekend.
You know what I?
Mean like an hour a weekend.
Uh-huh, you know I mean yeah,go to the gun range on, you know
(14:27):
, once every Saturday orwhatever mm-hmm this is like
it's best that I have it, justso I can be comfortable, because
it's better to be prepared thanunprepared absolutely yeah, but
like actually spend moneytaking budget classes like I
look at like as long as I'mabove the average, yeah, yeah,
one of the odds is like maybe Ishould.
(14:47):
I also need to learn thatcommunication to de-escalate
some shit.
If I know a nigga can beat myass.
Yeah, that's where that gunrange comes into play.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Yeah, okay, that's too funny yeah, no, I definitely
thought about it, though Ithought about it.
I'm going to do it eventually.
I'm going to do it eventually.
It's just like I got to getmore into my fitness bag to even
fuck with them.
I remember before I was likereally into fitness, not saying
(15:18):
I'm just like the fittest guyever but there was an event and
then, uh, me and my ex went toit and it was a boxing.
It was a boxing class.
It was, for it was like to hypeup the fast and furious film or
some shit like that.
And it was a boxing class andthey man, that shit was so
(15:38):
tiring, like it was in the mall,and I threw up in the middle of
the mall and I threw up when Iwas there like it was just so
hard it was.
Yeah, and at that time frame Iwasn't even working out at all
no, I'm just curious.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
I'm just, you know, asking the question uh-huh.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
So the boxing class was in the middle of the mall uh
, yeah, it was at a, a a place,though, like it was that okay,
yeah, like an actual store, okay.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
So it's not like the kiosk is in the middle of the
mall right now no, no no, okay,okay, that's what I'm thinking
no, no, no no people walking by.
They see you boxing dying?
Speaker 2 (16:21):
no, no, it was an actual how.
There are stores Like one ofthem was a fitness place.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
Okay, okay, yeah, so you just threw up in the middle
of the boxing place I walked.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
I mean I walked into the bathroom.
Oh, okay, you made that waymore dramatic.
I mean the middle of the mallthat it kind of was, but nobody
saw it except my ex.
Yeah, like you know, like thisplant next to you, you know how
they have like random plants inthe mall.
Like I just went straight up tothat shit star healing I
thought you said you went to thebathroom in the boxing match.
(17:00):
They, they like they worked usout so much that like I threw up
multiple times.
I threw up while I was in thereand then I went back out and
I'm like we ain't done, oh mygod.
So I went back.
You know my girls here they gotniggas that's boxing.
They can see me tired and Ijust did.
(17:22):
I just something in me justdidn't want to see these look at
me and be like, so I went backout there.
I went back out there for alittle bit.
My girl right, I look too howdid she feel?
did she like hold her head andsay I don't know, she, she's,
(17:42):
she's, she's really good with umencouragement.
Uh, I wouldn't say that she'sreally good with keeping herself
like oh yeah poised.
You know, like you wouldn'tknow if something's wrong, so
she's hard to read sometimes.
So I don't know, I, I couldn'teven, I couldn't even, I didn't
even had the energy to even likesee if she was going through
(18:05):
shit, because I was justthrowing up everywhere, yeah,
yeah, yeah.
But that made me want to likelater on like I gotta do better
than this I gotta get myselfinto this, because there's I'm
no match for these guys.
It's just like there there wasno.
There's bruh the hell no, if ais is jump roping for 15, 20
(18:27):
minutes, doing this with hishand, then going to jumping on a
uh treadmill, then going backto jump roping and then like bro
how am I, how I'm gonna?
be tired as yeah and like acouple of punches, let alone if
I miss one and most of my windis out it's over.
So yeah, that that inspired me,as well as um, michael b,
(18:48):
jordan and creed to like yeah,you know how much was the class?
Different levels, I don't know,I don't know if it was a
different.
Uh, I don't know how much itwas okay, yeah, but it's paid
for it.
No, no, no, no.
It was an event like.
So we as influencers, we I hadto look stupid now that I'm
(19:09):
really thinking about that butthey invited a bunch of
influencers to there to try thisclass for the movie uh for uh,
for what's Creed?
I don't know, maybe it mighthave been Creed, but it was for
some movie, some movie.
So most of the influencers thatwere there were clearly like
(19:30):
fitness people.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Yeah, so like I mean women, it was mostly women,
mostly women in there.
Were they bad, they're cute.
Yeah, you know the pick of.
You know influencers in LA thatkind of had the same type of
style.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
Was your ex participating or was she just
watching?
Speaker 2 (19:52):
No, she was in there.
I didn't understand it.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
How was she doing?
Speaker 2 (19:56):
She was tired, but she kept going I'm like you
don't even fucking work out yeahever.
Yeah, that she used to get onmy nerves like she.
She never had to work out ever,ever so I don't know if she
just did so much when she wasyounger that the metabolism just
stayed that's not a real thingI did.
(20:18):
I wouldn't think it would be,but that shit don't make sense.
It never made sense.
I had to get abs, I had to workfor them and eat, right.
She just woke up.
It looked like she just ranthree miles or some shit.
Yeah, I don't know.
There's some other shit goingon.
She made it through.
I don't know what was wrongwith me.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
That is hilarious.
Yeah through, I don't.
I don't know what was wrongwith me.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
That is hilarious yeah, yeah, yeah yeah it sucked.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Did you feel like if you would have consistently went
, you would actually be able toduck yeah and we yeah.
Yeah, I didn't know if it waslike more so for the workout?
Um, what do you mean?
Like this is actually a placeto where you get fit, not to
actually learn how to box.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
No, the whole place was, I think, a boxing place.
Yeah, the whole place was.
So everything there was kind offor that centered um, um, um
purpose okay, I got you.
Yeah, that was, that was a lot,that was a lot yeah, you really
realized like you really ain'tdoing for real, like you know
(21:24):
you, you meet someone who's at ahigher level of something that
you're doing and you're like,damn, like I ran a mile today,
but this just ran seven.
It's like how did yeah and he'sstill throwing on this like 100,
200 punch.
Now how?
The like people are out there.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Yeah, that's just work hard, dedication.
That's what you want to do,just consistency.
We can actually really get intoit.
There's a big trial that's beengoing on.
Have you been keeping up withthe DD trial?
I mean, I don't have a choice.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
You just open your phone and somebody's.
Have you been keeping up withthe DD trial?
Speaker 1 (22:02):
I mean I don't have a choice, Right, right.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
You, just you open your phone and it's somebody's
getting clapped.
Talking about getting clapped,I'm saying just like something
about some sexual with the trial.
Does this surprise you?
No, and I still don't thinkthey're gonna charge this with
nothing.
Okay, what do you feel like?
Speaker 1 (22:26):
I feel like I mean, you never know, but I just feel
like this is, this is the diddytrial that I didn't really want
yeah like I wanted the galanemaxwell, I wanted the Ghislaine
Maxwell.
Jeffrey Epstein Diddy trial.
You know what I mean.
Like hey, I know he did this tothis person.
(22:50):
He actually was not even thehead leader, it was actually
them folks.
You know I wanted the whole.
I know I wasn't going to get it, but you know there was a lot
of branches that Diddy falls inwith.
You know how you have like thefamily tree and you know he's
just like the bottom level.
There's top people that youknow that he worked with.
(23:13):
That I was hoping this is justa bunch of A.
He beat Cassie's ass.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
I don't even see a lot of that hey, he beat
cassie's ass.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
I don't even see a lot of that like that's, that's,
that's.
That's essentially what they're.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
It seems like they're convicting them up I think I
thought it was sex trafficking.
They're trying to get him onthat.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
But it's, it's really it.
But who?
Who cares that you, you paidfor a process, who that you
brought prostitutes in, like whyis that such a big thing?
I don't know.
Like.
Why is that even worth?
Even putting all this moneytowards.
It's something way bigger thanthat, and that's what's annoying
me about it.
(23:52):
It's like bro really, we onthat, and then even the latest
person who came in from DirtyMoney, don Richards.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
Yeah, that's right.
I thought her name was DonRashad.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Yeah, exactly, if you want to be fancy with it,
that's her actual name.
Yeah, it's like Simpsong.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
Yeah, I'm going to start going by that name, but
what about it?
Speaker 1 (24:16):
She just you know, hey, did you see Cassidy's ass
get beat?
Yeah, alright, bro, we get it.
Is that what this is about tobe?
We saw the video, like,actually, if this was truly
about sex trafficking, rico,follow the money.
Where's the money?
Nobody showed us receipts.
Yeah, there's no money trail.
(24:39):
So it's like what we really onfor real they just tried to
stick them with somethingbecause for what though?
I mean, I don't know I mean,yeah, that's what I'm saying.
It's like, this is like wealready know.
This is.
There's a bigger play at hand,because this is just like a
trial for nothing it's startingto be a trial for nothing this
(25:01):
time to be a trial for nothing.
Yeah, it's like, all right, weget it.
Hey, she got her.
She got 20 million, she got herrestitution, or she already got
it yeah, from Diddy she been got20 million from did oh cuz he
offered it like the next dayexactly yeah, yeah, she got 20,
but I thought that this isfederal yeah, but I'm saying
(25:24):
like, if this, this is reallyjust a child about what he did
to cassie and it's, it's abigger play at hand and we got
to sit here and watch this andthis is not.
But he got a whole conspiracyof killing tupac and biggie
right.
Yeah, there's way bigger stuffthan we can be on yeah, no, I
(25:49):
said that.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
I said that, um, you know, like the, the, the, the
thought of uh, what's his name?
Kid, cuddy, car blowing up,like I was saying, unless they
got some shit, like this niggafingerprint on the bomb, like
this nigga ain't going nowhere.
But you, what are we?
You, we just talking.
Is there no gossip?
Speaker 1 (26:10):
they don't even care about that.
I don't even think theymentioned that in the trial.
The most they mentioned kidcutting with takashi.
He's like oh, um they gotjealous.
You got jealous and theybrought both of y'all in a
meeting and talk about nothing,about a car we won't blowing up.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
That's how I know they don't care uh, no, they did
say something about her roomgot trashed when she started to
see him exactly that's what I'msaying.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
They said nothing about car blowing.
They talked about them datinghim, because they didn't mention
no car blowing up.
They, they ain't reallymentioning nothing, for real.
They just mentioning domesticviolence, and that's not even
what he's on trial for.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
Which is sex trafficking.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
That's the thing.
They're not even talking aboutsex trafficking her.
They're talking about the timethat he paid for prostitutes to
come in, come in to their cityor state or whatever.
He's not even talking aboutCassie's sex trafficking.
They're all trying to make thatHer testimony was more about
(27:12):
assault and him hiringprostitutes.
Yeah, that's what it's beenabout right now.
I don't know, and their nastysex campaigns and they'll be
drugged out on it.
Yeah, but everybody about rightnow?
Yeah, I don't know.
And they're nasty sexcapadesand they'll be drugged out on it
.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
Yeah, but like everybody already knew that,
yeah, it's like what's the point?
Speaker 1 (27:31):
And you got all this team of prosecutors, lawyers,
James Comey, the leader of theFBI's daughter.
You got so many people on thiscase for what?
Speaker 2 (27:46):
so many people on this case for what.
I feel like they knew clearlyhe's, he's, he's linked to some
shit for sure, but it seems likethey just I don't know.
I feel like this worked with somany other people as in like
like thug or that's, that's,that's not his tier, but I'm
just saying like waited for theright moment to where they had
enough information, or like dirt, like wait so they had the
(28:08):
right things, and then they wentin and it seems like they just
came at this on the wrong angle,to where it would be very hard
to close.
I don't know what's the?
I mean, are they just trying toget him in jail, like take away
his assets or something?
Everything that's coming out inthe trial just seems like it's
(28:31):
everything we already knew andit's nothing new for real yeah
or nothing, nothing to get himon.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
The thing about Rico is, you know, established
because of the mob and, you know, getting actual leaders put in
jail.
This is a one-man, rico.
Yeah, so that's one.
So you're just trying to builda combination of things to give
to, uh, give him his long, longterm, potentially life sentence,
(29:07):
and so you're just throwingeverything and just hoping that
sticks.
But it's, it's sore, piss poor,that it's just like, okay, what
are we doing?
Speaker 2 (29:18):
this is definitely getting so now.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
Now diddy's actually getting public sympathy,
sympathy, yeah, to where it'slike, okay, so y'all doing all
this?
Because it's because he, hebeat up cassie you, so you're
going to give him a long-termsentence for that.
But we already know he's beenthrough.
He's actually did worse things,yeah, and this is what it's
(29:42):
going to be.
So he's getting actuallygetting more public sympathy,
way more than we should have.
Because at first, you know,they were showing the justin
bieber videos.
Uh-huh, him bieber, beinguncomfortable around diddy.
You know what I mean.
Yeah, yeah, and he was hearingall types of conspiracies around
him.
And now it's like this is whatyou, what you gotta show for it.
(30:06):
You just saw it.
Hey, hey, don richard, did youever see him beat up cassie?
Yeah, all right, the wholepublic seen that.
Yeah, yeah, everybody wasshowing.
How much of a piece of crap didhe was yeah, yeah yeah.
So let's, let's move on toactual, real charges that we
thought y'all was going topresent.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
I just feel like the what is it called?
The case that they're trying tobuild, or whatever is in the
wrong.
It's not the right angle, so Ifeel like it's already over with
.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
Because the prosecution is fighting with
both hands tied behind theirback, because they're protecting
somebody but not presentingtrue charges.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
Who do you think they're protecting?
Speaker 1 (31:01):
I think they're protecting um.
I think they're protecting um,whoever was, who's ahead of
diddy and the record label thathe worked with at the time.
There's several, there'sseveral names I I just can't
remember, so I don't want to puton somebody, um, but there's
several music moguls that arebigger than diddy that I've did
worse.
(31:21):
I'm sure.
Yeah, that, um, that they can't, only they can't do so much
Like even, uh, like the um,what's the, what's the guy,
little ride lawsuit.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
The rod.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
Yeah yeah, he said he's the one who sued Diddy and
he had pictures and evidence ofwhat Diddy did.
He was the same person who waslike you know, there's a Philly
rapper who had sex with Diddyand there also was a guy that
just recently performed in theSuper Bowl that had sex with
Diddy.
I don't know if you rememberthat lawsuit, but yeah, yeah, so
(31:58):
that was the thing that youknow.
They was talking about MeekMill.
That's who they was talkingabout.
Meek Mill, that's who they wastalking about.
And then he was referring toUsher, and so Meek Mill was like
I ain't never did nothing gay,you know.
So, I'm sure you saw that.
Yeah, yeah.
And then he also on the lawsuit.
He talked about how Diddy shota man and then called the police
(32:20):
.
And then called, called apolice and a person named the
police officer that worked in la.
That was that um covered it upand he's like a police cover-up
and he does several differentcases, like even wanted did his
security guard work for michaeljackson and was the second
person on the scene when michaeljackson died and he was 20
(32:42):
years old, like 20 somethingyears old at the time, fresh out
of college, head of securityfor Michael Jackson.
Like, like, he had names, likespecific names, he had pictures
of the blood and crime scene.
Yeah, and then the um, thecrime scene was reported by the
news but it was lightly coveredand it showed like somebody was
(33:03):
shot up, shot outside the youknow the recording studio, but
actually it was shot, he wasshot inside.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
Just to cover it up.
Yeah, so he like, I mean I'msure at this point.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
Yeah, it was like Diddy would have had sex with
sex with other men, and he hadcameras everywhere around his
house.
He had film of everybody.
I wish I knew his name.
I'll just call him out.
I just can't remember, like theold man, the music mogul Quincy
Jones.
No, no, no, no, no, he was awhite man.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
Clive.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
Davis yes.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
Yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
Exactly.
Yeah, that's who it is.
Yeah, yes, yeah yeah, yeah,exactly yeah that's who it is.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
Yeah, yeah, yeah you found with me to say no, no, I
didn't.
Uh, yeah, exactly.
Yeah, yeah, like him, yeah, um,um, like you that he this is
according to little rod, likewhat you know, be with diddy in
his room for hours and I'm suresomething's going on there
uh-huh yeah, so I mean there'sactual crimes that did he commit
(34:07):
, that you can really get themon a rico for real, but you're
not even touching that becausethere's so many um uh vines to
that tree that you don't want togo, you don't want to touch, so
you have to completely leave itout.
That's what I'm saying.
The prosecution has a handsbeside that, behind the back,
because they're processing,because it is just shows that
(34:28):
about the whole DiMaggio case onwhy this is actually happening
oh you know, with the liquorcompany oh yeah actually filing
a civil rights lawsuit becausehe's accusing, not promoting the
brand, but was reported becausedid he had De Leon and the
what's uh?
No, that's not.
(34:49):
No, it's um.
No, it was uh, what's umClooney's liquor.
George Clooney yeah, what's hehas?
He has the big tequila.
Casamigos, I thought that wasthe rock no, the rock has uh,
yeah, yeah so but uh, thatDiMaggio's pushing them
(35:11):
promoting their brand but notpromoting Diddy on any suit.
And they wind up settlingbecause of all this stuff.
Diddy couldn't fight thislawsuit, and then this one.
Yeah yeah.
So it just keeps on buildingthis public sympathy of Diddy,
and it was really never supposedto be that way.
But now people are like wantingto see Diddy get out, because
(35:33):
now it's starting to be unjust,according to the evidence you're
giving.
Now, if you could actuallyrelease you, if you could untie
your hands and and actually geteverybody, if you truly wanted
to get everybody under Rico, youcould.
You could get Clyde.
You, if it's a Rico Rico, youcould.
You could get Clyde.
If it's a Rico charge, you canget Clyde Davis, because it's
more than just one person.
(35:54):
Rico ain't supposed to be aone-man.
Rico, it's supposed to beseveral.
You can actually do it if youwanted to.
But you got your hands tied andnow they're looking stupid and
a waste of time.
Waste of time.
Pay your money.
Now, what it is, if anything,it's um, it's just dominating
the headlines.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
So whenever you know people can get passed through
and under the rug, um, becausethis is so dominant that that'll
be a thing that can happen aswell you think people are just
scared because most of thosepeople not most of, but some of
those people that's on thattrial, I feel like they would
have never said anything andthey would have never even been
(36:36):
on the trial.
Even if, um, they would havenever been on the trial, uh, if
it wasn't like a court order toshow up yeah, yeah, I'm sure I
mean, and they cassie sued diddy, so that was the easy one if
you can go.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
According to the lawsuit you get seen don
richards sued diddy, so that'sanother one.
You're like brad, you know, sothat's another one that you can
grab.
You're gonna subpoena, but yeah, of course yeah, yeah, you get
your.
He did.
He has several high-ranked paidlawyers that are phenomenal at
(37:13):
that job.
They're going to make your asslook stupid and the prosecution
ain't your savior.
They don't love you like that.
They ain't going to take care ofyou.
So you with vicious you knowwhat I mean.
Picture, you know you gotvicious.
You would.
This is you know I mean.
Picture, you know you gotvicious rock-rollers coming at
you and you just got somebodyholding a hand out like just
(37:37):
covering themselves.
That's only gonna last for solong.
Yeah, they eventually gonnamove the hell out the way and
let you get bitten up theprostitution in for themselves.
So when they going oh, thishappened, but in 2021, you asked
for that.
Happened back in 2015, but in2021 you asked for Diddy for a
(37:58):
job mm-hmm and it told her howmuch of a great man you were mmm
so this is clearly a murdergrab, is it not?
you just sued him, but just lastyear, you know.
I mean, so they freaking lineby line.
He has proof, he has receipts,he has whole text message chains
.
The prosecution don't give adamn like that.
(38:18):
They ain't going through lineby line text messages because
these these law, these um peoplewho are working for diddy got
people who work for them and aregoing through everything with a
fine tooth comb highlightingthere's no, those prosecutions
don't stand a chance when itcomes to that.
So the defense is going to eatthem alive every single time and
(38:41):
make them look stupid.
And when you got your hand tiedbehind your back, I mean I can
never say what a jury's going todo, but you got to be convicted
by 12 and nobody.
I don't think nobody's gonna getcomfortable, based off of what
I'm seeing oh god nobody's gonnafeel comfortable giving a man a
life sentence for that Iwouldn't even want to be there
(39:03):
as a jury no okay, I was justsaying yeah yeah, yeah, I mean,
yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
Yeah, like I wouldn't even want to, I'll be, I'll,
nah, bro, that, that that'sthat's.
Can you just imagine like it'sup to you, uh, to put like
somebody away?
That's possibly like a reallybad, yeah, and then you know,
you and your whole family is nowpossibly in danger.
(39:30):
For that, you know, I'm sayingI don't, I don't see anybody
wanting to do that shit for real.
Some of it sounds like asuicide mission just off of I
don't know, I don't know how badthis dude is or whatever.
But you know, the storiestravel.
So, like you know, we hear alot of things and a lot of this
shit we already heard.
(39:50):
But there's a whole lot ofother shit that we heard about
this man that it just soundsscary a little bit.
Speaker 1 (39:59):
Yeah, I mean, I don't think he would have gone away
with that because he's alreadyconvicted at that point you
think so.
Yeah, I mean I'm sure there's alot more people on his list to
get revenge on, and the firstpeople are the people who
testified against him.
Speaker 2 (40:14):
Oh yeah, facts.
That's what I'm saying too.
Speaker 1 (40:18):
And the people who put him in jail was the
prosecution.
So there's a long list of folksyou want to get after before
you really get to the jury.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:29):
Yeah, you just, you never know, bro, you never know
how powerful these people are.
Yeah, I'm sure.
Speaker 1 (40:33):
Yeah, that's a lot of work when you actually know the
people who put you in jail'sname last name and where to find
them.
Y'all got mutual friends.
Speaker 2 (40:42):
That's that's, that's that's man.
Speaker 1 (40:44):
And then you're, now that you're in jail, so
everything's recorded, soeverything's going to be a lot
tougher to communicate.
Speaker 2 (40:51):
It just seems like this man's going to be home soon
.
Speaker 1 (40:54):
Oh, I mean, if that's where they're going with it now
, maybe they got some real.
All the evidence is presentedto each side, so it's not like
you're going to show somethingthat the defense hasn't seen.
Uh-huh.
Like even the text messages thatthey show cassie, the, the
prosecution never saw that.
Because, like, hey, you hadthis whole thing you're talking
(41:19):
about.
There's like, hey, that wasn'tpresenting evidence and they,
they spun it a different way.
And there's like, hey, cassieread this like I don't know, I
don't, I don't know legal stuff.
But there's like this man ishere for the rest of you know,
this is a trial that could puthim in the rest of his life.
You know you said a lot thatyesterday, so we did some things
(41:42):
to respond to that we have.
That contradicts a lot of whatyou said.
Yeah, and a lot of it is like,yeah, this is not how somebody
who get the ass beat on aregular basis, like if, if I'm
scared of somebody, I ain'tgonna cheat on that person, yeah
(42:03):
, like yeah, yeah, I was like Iknow I'm coming home to ass
kicking.
You know what I mean.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And no matter if my lady beatmy ass regularly or sometimes
and brutally, why would I stickmy penis in another chick Pussy?
(42:24):
Don't feel that good.
Yeah.
To note hey, the people who arehandling me is on her payroll,
so they know I'm gonna be outhere with somebody else uh-huh,
right, right, it's gonna comeback.
Speaker 2 (42:39):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, hmm, uh, it's, it's
just not set up.
It's not set up to where I feellike this man is going down.
I think that I think, when itall happened and they, they
broke into his house and theswat, you know, everybody showed
up.
Whatever I, I was like, oh,this shit is real.
(42:59):
Yeah, I was like, oh, they'reabout to get his ass, exactly,
exactly, thank you I was likedamn, they're really, they gonna
get them on some exactly,exactly so you did.
Speaker 1 (43:09):
That's what.
I'm glad you brought that pointup, because you're saying they
did all that, rated both, allhis three homes just to tell me
that he'd been beating cassie'sass for years like you're like
that.
That sounds crazy to me.
Speaker 2 (43:24):
No, they, that's what I'm saying.
The angle must have switchedsomething, something happened.
Speaker 1 (43:30):
Yeah, he stopped this man from getting on the jet.
You arrested his.
Speaker 2 (43:33):
This man was down there, Pablo Escobar.
Speaker 1 (43:36):
Yeah, like this is what you did it for.
Like that sounds so dumb to me.
Yeah, yeah, to be a wholedomestic violence face.
Oh, he got all these charges,rico.
He must have did something.
Hey, don Richardard, did yousee his?
Him beat cassie ass?
Yes, he threw a frying pan athim, which is ridiculous.
Don't run, yeah yeah, uh yeah,whatever, sir, yeah, so that's
(44:01):
kind of where I'm at with it.
Speaker 2 (44:02):
It's like, bro, what we really doing that was a movie
like that was crazy.
Yeah, I was like damn.
They got his ass for show showand then they said it was.
I don't know if they said itwas rico, I think.
Speaker 1 (44:13):
I think it was sex trafficking then I mean, yeah,
basically it's, it's a bunch ofstuff uh-huh sex trafficking.
They add whatever charges youcan throw at it yeah yeah, yeah,
added in you buy?
A 12.
Speaker 2 (44:27):
I just knew, I knew they had them.
Yeah, I was like damn.
And then people you know starttalking like oh shit, if he
going down, then Jay-Z going togo down.
Right right, jay going to godown.
Yeah, nah, they talking aboutfucking.
They talking about a strippercame over and he wanted to smash
(44:50):
on Cassie.
Speaker 1 (44:51):
Yeah, yeah, they're talking about just sex with.
Hey you drunk piss.
All this is just disgusting.
Speaker 2 (44:58):
I'm not surprised about any of it.
Yeah, yeah, nothing.
Speaker 1 (45:02):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you rub the semen on your
nipples.
It's like all this is justtrifling that was a little.
That's disgusting.
That was a little that'sdisgusting.
Speaker 2 (45:10):
But that was a little okay, but I'm still not
surprised about any of thisstuff.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's like weknew his parties was crazy.
We knew that stuff got crazy.
Yeah, of course we're going toget all this information.
So I don't know, I don't see ityear.
How long is the trial?
Speaker 1 (45:26):
I thought it was supposed to be two weeks, but
maybe it's eight, I don't knowas long as hell that's and what?
Speaker 2 (45:34):
how does that go, do they?
They go every other day, orevery day, five days a week shit
, okay, yeah, and for how long?
Uh, maybe eight weeks, maybe ohno, no, I meant like in a day
oh, oh, I don't know, yeah, Idon't know how that goes.
Speaker 1 (45:50):
Three to five hours, that's crazy.
Yeah, that's a lot I mean.
Speaker 2 (45:55):
so it's the beginning , then it just started right.
Speaker 1 (45:58):
Last week.
Speaker 2 (45:59):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (45:59):
Which is supposed to do more than this.
Catch you when I'm staying forthree or four days.
So she's done and that was thestar witness by the way, so that
was supposed to destroy him,and he gained more sympathy but
(46:20):
I mean, she was already paid off.
Speaker 2 (46:23):
she clearly didn't want to come, so what did they
think?
They forced her to be there?
Speaker 1 (46:33):
I mean, you got subpoenaed.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (46:36):
If you don't show up, you'll have jail time, Right.
So I'm saying what would youexpect to happen for real?
Speaker 1 (46:43):
Well, I mean she, she already got the money to not
say anything, right?
I mean, she did she.
What it sounded like to me wasI still got a public image to
protect, so I can't show I'm thewild one in this case.
So I got to defend myself,protect myself and point the
(47:04):
finger at him mostly.
So she did that.
She pointed a lot and said alot, but it more was victim
mentality, as you probablyexpected.
Um, but then the but her shitwas easily, to easily, debunked
you're right because she was awilling participant after a
certain amount of years.
You're, no, I mean, you're, uh,you're choosing I mean one's so
(47:29):
that she broke up with daddybefore, so she wasn't held
captive yeah, uh, yeah yeah,they talked about michael b
jordan.
Her dating michael b jordan.
Her dating cutting her,cheating on him.
Her shooting films when he'snot there.
Her getting mad when he she'sdating other people.
Her being jealous of kim porteryeah, yeah, so her being, you
(47:53):
know, diddy coming to um her aidwhen he felt like she was too
drugged out and took her to awellness center yeah, so it was.
It was showing like like hey,he's not as bad as y'all say he
is.
Now he is bad, but he loved her.
That was clear.
(48:14):
Yeah, yeah, they loved eachother and they even asked hey,
do you still love?
Have love for him.
She's like I have love for thepast and then now that what we
talking about right now likethat what we talking about right
now?
Speaker 2 (48:28):
ain't that what we talking about right now?
Speaker 1 (48:30):
exactly that was just saying that I still have
feelings for him.
Yeah, and not only that, shecheated on her, now husband with
Diddy on FaceTime.
Speaker 2 (48:44):
I didn't.
Oh, that's what that was shecheated on him with her.
I just remember reading that hecalled her or something.
Speaker 1 (48:53):
Yeah, exactly One time yeah.
Speaker 2 (48:54):
Not that he cheated, that she cheated.
Speaker 1 (48:56):
It was several instances of weird things like
that.
Mm-hmm.
I mean, he was her trainer.
That was paid for by Diddy.
Speaker 2 (49:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (49:06):
Yeah, so.
Speaker 2 (49:09):
This is a lot.
This is a lot.
This is a lot.
I don't think nothing gonnahappen to him.
I feel like he's gonna um shit.
Yeah, I feel like he's gonnaget out, and it's just gonna be
a little different when he getsout, cause, like a whole bunch
of people were quiet exceptBoosie, yeah yeah mean Boosie's
(49:31):
always been honest about how hefeels, so he's never really
changed on that.
You can appreciate that at leasthe ain't gonna lie for nobody
or hide how he feels, and Iappreciate that about him, wrong
(49:53):
or right yeah, I mean he justcaught it like you know how
everybody can just see it rightnow that it's just like bro, you
arrested this man to say thathe's a freak, like that's what
it's looking like.
So I don't know.
I don't know.
Unless it's like it's, thiscase will be closed and then
(50:13):
there is a new case.
I think this shit over withyeah, all the other ones.
It seemed like it was prettymuch dead set.
They were going to jail, likebill cosby or who else, like the
epstein people did.
It was just like to.
I'm pretty sure this is a deepsituation too, but they were
(50:35):
just hitting them with peopleand situations and the clear
evidence and right now it justdoesn't seem like it's going
that way we'll see what youthink gonna happen I think, yeah
, yeah, I, I don't.
Speaker 1 (50:55):
I don't know for sure , because I mean, did he pay for
prostitutes here?
So so, yeah, that's clear.
I, I think that you need tofind the money before you
convict him and honestly, Ithink that if they're, if I'm on
a jury, it's like bruh, it's awaste of time.
(51:17):
Niggas do this all the time isthis what we're really here for?
I'm not.
I'm not.
I don't feel comfortable addingthis on to rico, if you want to
give him two years, orprostitution is what Prostitutes
get out in a week, in a day.
Speaker 2 (51:35):
I mean, is that really a thing now?
Speaker 1 (51:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (51:39):
I mean escorts are.
Speaker 1 (51:41):
So I mean you can convict him on it, but yeah, you
can't convict him on it.
I mean on prostitution, I meanif you get caught paying for
cooch then that's illegal.
Okay, I guess.
I think we did it.
Yeah, oh yeah.
All right.
Well, this is two for theculture.
(52:01):
We'll be back for anotherepisode.
Speaker 2 (52:03):
All right.
Speaker 1 (52:03):
Yes, sir.
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