The Gym, Dating, and Shannon Sharpe Drama

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
And we are back with another episode of Two for the
Culture.
I'm Justin Devante, I'm StevenRay.
Yes, sir, and we're back.
How you feeling, how you doing.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
I feel good For some reason every time, like we'll be
talking regular before we start, we'll be talking regular
before we start recording, andas soon as you say and we're
back, it's just I can't help butto smile.
I don't know what it is oh okay.
Yeah, but so we did two daystoday.

(00:30):
Yeah, yeah, all right, I'mgonna, I'm gonna keep that going
for sure.
Yeah, I'm gonna buy a little setfrom walmart.
I saw one today.
Oh, instead of what?
Um dumbbells, some dumbbells,it go up to like 50.
You can interchange it on oneof them.
Oh, yeah, yeah, hell yeah, I'mgonna get that um and and and
kind of start that just to makesure like it'll get done,

(00:50):
instead of like going back andforth all the way I mean all the
time to the gym oh okay, so dolike a home workout.

Speaker 1 (00:55):
I see you've been working the dumbbells oh, yeah,
yeah yeah, but I don't even knowhow much weight.
How much weight is that?
That's gotta be like 30 maybe,yeah, I would, I would figure
it's only one.
So it's like, yeah, you gotta.
Just there should be a long assworkout.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
It's silly but, uh, no, I feel super good.
I feel super good.
It it's a different feeling.
It's like it's like locked inall day, but like that locked in
feeling not just up, but justlike all right.
Next, like the like the wholetime, the whole time we were
there.
Uh, the second time it wasnothing but, um, this, this

(01:34):
millionaire audio book, um, Iforgot the name of it the
mindset of a millionaire,something, something like that.
And then I'm just, I'm justlike locked in, bro, like the
whole time.
I'm seeing people come by backand forth and all this.

Speaker 1 (01:47):
And then in my head it's like I'm better you don't
uh pay attention when you saylocked in, you don't pay
attention to any girl you findattractive there I was gonna
text you.

Speaker 2 (02:03):
I was gonna text you.
As soon as we got in.
There was a.
There was a little white girlin front of us that definitely
had a little something on herwell, because you was in on the
treadmill, so you're probablyseeing something.
No, she was in front of you too.
She was helping somebody and Iwas like, was that the?

Speaker 1 (02:20):
first session or the second?

Speaker 2 (02:22):
I think the second, oh, okay, the second session
yeah.
But, do I pay attention to it?
I mean it's I don't know, it'snot like I don't know.
Would you say that there's likea crazy amount of great looking
people there?
I?

Speaker 1 (02:42):
think there's.
Yeah, I would say, I mean acrazy amount.
I mean like it's a this is.

Speaker 2 (02:48):
This is like a small percentage of um, I mean, shout
out to the people that go there,but yeah, yeah um, yeah, it's
not necessarily like oh my god,every like two seconds.

Speaker 1 (02:59):
Yeah, yeah, not everybody gonna be bad, yeah,
yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, Forsure, Because I mean some people
are on a journey too.

Speaker 2 (03:06):
Yeah, right, yeah, yeah, give them a couple months.

Speaker 1 (03:08):
And some people just like swole as hell.
Like okay, you clearly ain'tdoing this for a man.

Speaker 2 (03:14):
Oh yeah, no, no, no, yeah, yeah, yeah, you have a
competition coming up Exactlyyeah, different walks of life.
I saw somebody the other day.
I mean it wasn't nothing crazy.
I think the only time I doremember seeing somebody and she
looked like a Disney princessor something.

Speaker 1 (03:32):
It was that one time.

Speaker 2 (03:34):
I never saw her again .
I don't think I'd approach.
I don't think she's like mytype, what you mean.
I don't like pretty I don'tknow, have you ever seen
somebody who could be likepretty?
But you know that holding aconversation with them and all
that might not be relatable.

Speaker 1 (03:57):
I see what you mean.
I wouldn't know that until Ispeak with them.
Yeah, she's pretty, butintellectually it's not going to
go no farther than where itstands.
Yeah, yeah, because she's justlike you know, she's not, she's
just thinking I don't know, Idon't want to say stupid.

Speaker 2 (04:18):
Yeah, you're going that route.
That's not the word I'm tryingto use.

Speaker 1 (04:23):
Different type of lifestyle, yeah, yeah yeah, I
always say it like different,that's not the word I'm trying
to use Different type oflifestyle.
Yeah, yeah, it's like hermaturity level is just not high.
Yeah, yeah, is that?

Speaker 2 (04:30):
something you go through often.
What or have gone through often, Like if you're way too ditzy
for me then it's not.

Speaker 1 (04:38):
I got to be around you and it's annoyance level,
yeah, yeah.
And I was like, yeah, it's notgoing to get me there.

Speaker 2 (04:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (04:46):
Yeah, yeah.
So there has to be some type oflike you don't have to be the
smartest person in the room byany means which you have to kind
of understand like comprehendlike be self aware.

Speaker 2 (04:57):
Have you ever uh, uh like started to date someone and
then eventually that showed?

Speaker 1 (05:08):
started to date someone and then eventually that
showed uh, I think I've datedsomebody who was I don't want to
.
She was ditzy and how she moved, but she was intelligent and it
was a play it was uh yeah, yeah, like she.
She could maneuver and be thatditzy person and act ignorant
and but she very much knew whatwas happening oh okay, so it's
like a personality thing uh, Ithink that is a defense

(05:31):
mechanism the defense mechanism?

Speaker 2 (05:33):
yeah, is it like the police pull up?

Speaker 1 (05:35):
I don't know what's going on exactly well, who else
wouldn't do that?
Yeah I don't know what's goingon but she, she played on it
because she was a white girl,you know, I mean and so she
could easily.
But yeah, you can, you don'tnot.
Everybody doesn't play theditsy role I'm confused, but yes
, so she'll how she did thing.

(05:56):
I was like, okay, you're verysmart to how you lead yourself
to be yeah because you wouldn'tknow that unless you really knew
her.

Speaker 2 (06:04):
Yeah, yeah, oh, okay, okay, okay, yeah, yeah, I don't
think I've, I don't think I'vedated any yeah.

Speaker 1 (06:11):
But I mean, if I was to say her name, you'll probably
know who I was talking about,because she's been around.

Speaker 2 (06:17):
She's actually been around.
She's been around us.
Was it when you had the whitecar?
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (06:30):
Bro, bro, you hated her.
I remember one time we pulledup somewhere to get liquor I
didn't know what you're talkingabout.

Speaker 2 (06:33):
Yeah, she did some with the radio.
Yeah, yeah, I just rememberfrom that moment.
Are you?
You did not.

Speaker 1 (06:39):
No, I know what you're talking about.
She lied for like no reason atall, because it it was.
Like you know, the radio had alike you had to move in a
certain way to use an aux cord.

Speaker 2 (06:51):
Okay, okay, okay, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (06:53):
And she plugged it in and did something and just lied
about it and I was like I knowhow this works.
What's the point of lying?
But it was amongst other things, and now, as I grow up, I feel
bad about how I handled thatrelationship because um I went
harder than what it, what shewas what I should have uh yeah,

(07:16):
yeah, and she actually reallyliked me a lot and I didn't
treat her well yeah okay,because I did go hard but, yeah,
yeah, but, as this is, part ofthe learning situation.
And there's still a lot of me inthat.
You know what I mean, Because Idon't like the.
You know.
I think it's like a what I'mseeing in a lot of traits that

(07:42):
women have.
It's like they're alwaystreated when you talk about
princesseses they're growing uptreated like a princess.
You want your daughter to be aprincess.
You know that she plays withdolls, thinks, idolize and
things like that, and that verymuch leads to that personality
growing up.
Yeah, so it's.
It's hard for me to deal withthat because it's a.

(08:02):
They're more selfish than what aman is yes yeah, yeah, so I
know how I am and I wanted themto share that equally.
It's like I know how selfless Iam.
We all gonna have selfishtendencies, but it's like you
should be at least trying to beas giving.

Speaker 2 (08:21):
Yeah, and that's just hard for me to wrap my head
around that there a lot ofpeople who I've dated are not
always there with that that is athing that I have realized too
with women, that that that it'salmost like the better the
father, it's like, the moreprincessy the girl is exactly

(08:45):
which is crazy yeah, I mean it'sa great life, it's a great
relationship with the father,but it's also like you're not
gonna do this for me.

Speaker 1 (08:54):
My daddy would always do this yeah, yeah yeah exactly
, I think that you you have that.
You have, when they're pretty,the entitlement oh my god,
you're always getting what youwant and things uh-huh and um
they're all.
People are always willing to gothat extra mile for a pretty
woman, um so, and you don't?

(09:15):
You always have insecurities,but it's not like everybody else
yeah yeah, because so manypeople have been going after you
and been showing their like youin different ways, so you have
that as well.

Speaker 2 (09:27):
And I don't well.

Speaker 1 (09:29):
So it's a part, a part of me feels I'm maybe using
it wrong, but it feels right.
When I say the word tear down,it's like, hey, bro, we if this,
I ain't going to be the onethat just went on your hand and
foot, because I have differentpriorities too.

Speaker 2 (09:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (09:46):
And my life ain't your life.
You know what?

Speaker 2 (09:49):
I mean.

Speaker 1 (09:49):
Like you, can only put me in your environment for
so much.
Yeah, I can't.
Just I can't, I can't.
You know, wait on you with thered carpet.
I got things to do there's.
You know, I have obligationsand I feel like that becomes an
issue and they don'tpsychologically realize that

(10:12):
because they've always hadsomething similar to that.

Speaker 2 (10:16):
I feel like the prettier they are, the easier it
is to just be like okay, I'lljust find another nigga that'll
do it.

Speaker 1 (10:23):
And then in my head, that's your prerogative in your
decision.
Yeah, that okay cool, all right.
I feel good with myself thatI'm gonna find somebody else too
.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, and if that'syour personality, that's surely
not what I want so right, I, wecan split Emily.

Speaker 2 (10:44):
Yeah.
No that definitely makes sense.
I'm way more on that.

Speaker 1 (10:48):
Yeah, but it's just when the lies start to happen.
What lies I feel like?
When you have that?
Okay, like I've seen.
So I don't want to just putthis on women or just all women
in the hole, but I've seen towhere it's like.
They're like I can find anotherman.

(11:09):
It typically doesn't really gothat way.
Yeah, it typically they'resneaking, they're, yeah, they're
doing little things that you'renot aware of.
So when it all comes to theforefront, he's like I wish you
would have just gave it to mestraight, because now I'm, I'm
thinking you're in it, butyou're not yeah, that happens

(11:32):
yeah, I think it goes back onsomething else we was talking
about another time, wherethey've already broken up in
their head and then they startdoing that.

Speaker 2 (11:42):
Yeah, the, the opening up the second life yes,
exactly so when.

Speaker 1 (11:48):
So it's like all right, we could, we had.
I didn't know this was as bigof an issue as you made it seem
um so that's so.
That's when it's like yeah, I'mcool if you give it to me
straight, like that, and we justlook amicably.
But when you're actually, youknow economy, I feel and I feel
scammed, I feel used and abused.

(12:08):
Now that's where the scars.
You know what I mean or thewounds happen and um, and then
we all take that into our nextrelationship, you know, because
we're all skeptical, worried,there's a lot of damaged and it
takes a lot to heal that.
But yeah, yeah, and you know, Ithink I've been somewhat good

(12:33):
because I'm the type I probablymentioned it here, I'll mention
it again I'm the type of personwho I trust you until you show
me a reason not to trust you.
Yeah, yeah.
And then you don't want to beon the opposite side where I
don't trust you until you showme a reason not to trust you.
Yeah, yeah.
And then you don't want to beon the opposite side where I
don't trust you, right?

Speaker 2 (12:49):
Because that's not even the one.

Speaker 1 (12:50):
I like to live free in my.
I've always talked about.
I like peace, I like to livefree in my head.
So if I'm worried, then there'sno point of us being together,
because this is thisrelationship is taking too much
of a toll on me mentally yeah,it can ruin everything.
Yes, exactly.

(13:10):
So that's why I'd rather split,if this is what it's going to
be, because otherwise, what arewe doing?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We're living miserable liveswith each other.
We might as well go ourseparate ways and try to figure
out with somebody else,ourselves or whatever, because
it's just not working yeah, no,that that makes sense.

Speaker 2 (13:33):
I've seen that, uh more than a few times with
people and hearing about it fromother people as well.
So, yeah, I think I think moremen should just like leave early
.
Yeah, yeah, and it's randomthat I say that, because I was
scrolling I saw carrie hiltontalk about her and some some

(13:55):
some dude that she was with.
He was a basketball playersergey bucka maybe, uh, uh, they
started with an s, so maybethat's him.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, she said that I wish Iwould have left sooner, and I
feel like more men should dothat.
Like, yeah, like cut her off.

Speaker 1 (14:16):
Yes, but it's also not.
It's hard, I mean absolutely.

Speaker 2 (14:21):
No, I'm definitely one of the the people that.
It's a reason why I say that,because I have experienced
certain things where I like giveyou an open idea or try to see
the human in somebody and belike you know what me, as I'm a
work in progress, because thereare things that I in in certain
relationships, there are thingsthat I wanted to improve on in

(14:52):
myself that I didn't really knowhow to.
So I would kind of like givesomebody else that grace too,
and it always did not work outwell.
So, yeah, I just felt like Idon't know, men should
definitely just end that shitway sooner than you know, before

(15:15):
it gets to certain things.
And then the man is hurt,because I always feel like when
the man is hurt, it's way worse.
It's way worse, it'sstatistically.

Speaker 1 (15:23):
What do you mean?

Speaker 2 (15:23):
It is Men deal with breakups in a harder way.
Yeah, so I just feel like, withthat being said, I feel like
men should definitely be theones to be like nah and of
course I'm talking about men whoare like good guys and you, you
know, deal with women that havethese tendencies that can kind

(15:46):
of throw a relationship off.
Not necessarily just anybody.

Speaker 1 (15:51):
But yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I didn't take my, my breakupWell, well, like not in front of
her, like I wasn't likebreaking down in front of her.
Yeah, I have too much pride,yeah.
Yeah, yeah but mentally it wasa lot like.
For sure, I think I may havementioned it here.

(16:12):
I talk so much openly.
Who knows where I say things,but it was one, Well, two things
One time.
She.
She gave me I don't.
I honestly, I just try toprotect the person, so I don't
say a lot, but I'm freely opento talk about things but I was
like, yeah, that's some of theirstuff and I don't want to just

(16:33):
open it up but, uh, but I'msaying that to say there was
sometimes she broke news or wasgoing to break news to me and
throw over text was like I gottatell you something.
I hate that when you don't, yougotta tell me something, but you
don't and then I was in.
I was in class.
I couldn't hear anything.
The teacher was saying yeah Icouldn't hear anything.

(16:55):
Anybody was telling me it waslike it was.
Whatever is in my head, it wasjust that like it was just like
noise was just blocked.
Yeah, um, so, uh, and then gotthe news it was, it was hurtful
yeah yeah.
And then, um, I remember onetime it was, uh, we already went

(17:16):
through the breakup, whatever.
And then I was like in my head,I was, what did I say?
I was like I can't wait for theday I don't think about her
every day.
Uh-huh uh-huh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I was like I know that day'sgoing to come, but I know it's
not going to be any time soon.

Speaker 2 (17:34):
Because I think about her constantly.
Yeah, after it was over.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, how long didit take.

Speaker 1 (17:40):
I didn't.
You don't know until you don'tknow, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (17:43):
Oh right, Like, oh shit, I haven't thought about
yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (17:46):
I'm like dang, I haven't thought about her in a
long time.
I'm like oh, I'm finally here,yeah yeah, yeah.
But that was.
It was months after I realized.
Yeah, because she's not on mymind anymore.
That makes sense, get outsideyeah, yeah, yeah, I I've maybe
tried that, but also I didn't itdoes.
I don't have the sameconfidence I do in myself now

(18:09):
that I did then.
So uh-huh yeah, yeah.
So it's like when I get outside, there was no holes to run to.
There, was it?
yeah yeah, yeah, because it was,and we, being a girl, broke up
so often that the girl that Iliked just knew I was gonna go
back to her anyway oh yeah yeah,yeah yeah.

Speaker 2 (18:31):
So what you doing, thinking about my ex, what you
doing?

Speaker 1 (18:34):
so I was like yeah, we done, like y'all be back next
week, so it never really yeahyeah, yeah, yeah yeah damn yeah,
yeah, so, yeah, but yeah, so Iand I did yeah, so I didn't have
that confidence.
Like bruh, I'm about to go tobroadway and you know yeah even
there was.
No, that wasn't, probably,wasn't even a thing, but for
real.
So I was just kind of stuckyeah, yeah, yeah with my

(18:58):
feelings yeah, yeah, yeah, if myhead was like uh, you know, I
know plenty of going to be inthat.

Speaker 2 (19:03):
You know what I mean if my head is like uh, you know,
I know, plenty is gonna be inthat.
You know what I mean?
Damn, yeah, yeah, you gotta gooutside, that's that's.

Speaker 1 (19:12):
That's one thing I realized.
I'm made to break up.
You gotta go outside.

Speaker 2 (19:14):
It's not gonna do that.

Speaker 1 (19:15):
Help you at all, I didn't go outside.

Speaker 2 (19:16):
Okay, yeah, so like it it well, I eventually,
eventually, yeah, it did help alittle bit.
Yeah, it did help a little bit.
It's not gonna stop it when um,it's not gonna stop it when you

(19:37):
know it's silent you know, butit definitely helps.
it definitely helps because youknow outside can be many things.
It could be like you takingyourself to I don't know, just
enjoying yourself somewhere, orlike go hoot with a bunch of
niggas.
You're not finna be thinkingabout your ex while a nigga's

(19:58):
trying to cross you over.
Yeah, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (20:00):
Yeah, Like you know what I'm saying.
She broke my ankles like shebroke my arm.

Speaker 2 (20:06):
Don't don't invite that pussy.
But um, yeah, yeah, yeah, yougot to get out.
That's one thing I definitelyrealize.
Um, you got to get outside, man, but you know that that shit is
not ever going to but you stillgotta lay your head at night.
You know what I mean yeah, itcan speed up the process is what

(20:27):
I'm saying.
You still gotta go through it.
That's like.
That's like you got a infectionor a common cold or something.
You can take something to speedup the process of this thing,
but you still gotta go throughthat shit, yeah.
So, yeah, that that's.
That's something different, butI do.
I do think still like menshould men should be the breaker

(20:49):
uppers more often yeah and thenuh, to that point.

Speaker 1 (20:53):
You know it's hard to break up like you don't want to
see.
You know your girl, your ex,you're crying in front of you
wanting to make it work andyou'd be like, nah, you know
like that's extremely tough.
That is a hard decision to doeverything gets better with time

(21:14):
you whisper it in like what'sthat?
The gorilla dude?
Gorilla dude playing the apesCaesar?
Yeah, exactly.
You whisper it in the Planet ofthe Apes Caesar?
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2 (21:28):
Every ball $20?
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1 (21:30):
And you whisper that thing Everything heals with time
, everything heals with time.

Speaker 2 (21:38):
Yeah, I get it, cause I'm a, I definitely love love.
However, like I said, man, I amslowly getting to the point of
just like looking things dead on.
I'm not even texting womenanymore.

Speaker 1 (22:00):
Oh, wow.

Speaker 2 (22:01):
Yeah, I just take straight niggas now.
It just sounded.
It sounded like that.

Speaker 1 (22:07):
Yeah, I knew when you was going with it.

Speaker 2 (22:08):
I knew exactly what you mean, that was too funny,
yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (22:12):
So where are you at?
Like I don't.

Speaker 2 (22:14):
Bro, is it a comfortable feeling Like?

Speaker 1 (22:16):
It's like For somebody who loves love.
You know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (22:19):
Man, it's like I just see it for what it is.
It's like some of thesefriendships and stuff.
I do understand women like toget hit up and all that, but
like I don't know, I don't dealwith people who don't, I don't
know.
It could be a girl that likesme, but I could, just, I just

(22:43):
know what it is.
It's just like if you have acertain quality about you that I
know I'm not going to get withyou, the conversation fades off
and then now it's to the pointwhere I'm.
It's just crazy, except likeI'm so focused on myself that I
don't need sometimes I don'teven text back.

(23:05):
I don't even I don't know.
Like the other day you asked melike was I lonely?
And I was like no, I'm not.
I just I thought I would be,though, like if I didn't have
any conversation and not causeI'm a uh, I guess I'm like kind
of reserved, but to people thatI talk to and stuff, like I do

(23:27):
like talking and yeah, it's justweird.
It's just like after I kind oflike stepped away from all the
my vices and like all the thingsthat were kind of taking me off
of my game, like my gameelevated yeah and it just it
kind of like knocked offeverything else that I didn't

(23:51):
truly care about for real, and alot of it is just conversations
with women it's just like yeah.
One girl said I told you now itdon't take nothing for me to
just like, yeah.
One girl said one girl saidsomething.
I told you now I don't takenothing for me to just like oh,
all right like I say, you cutoff women quickly.
I don't cut.
I mean, I just stopped talkingto him.

(24:12):
You know one girl said one girlsaid um, she said yeah is crazy.
And I was like yeah, I mean,you just gotta pick better
niggas and she said bye.
I haven't talked to her sinceokay, well, yeah, yeah, no she
said like it was funny, and thenshe thought I was gonna reply

(24:34):
and I just like all right, cool,like bye, I'll never talk to
you again why, uh why, did youlean in that direction?
That was very direct yeah, I,yeah, I took it directly.

Speaker 1 (24:46):
But all right.
No, I'm just saying like, yeah,you need to pick better.
It's like why'd you lean tothat?
Because that, because she does?

Speaker 2 (24:55):
okay, yeah she was like.
She texted me this uh, like I'dbe hating this, I'd be hating
this with girls.
Like they'll say something likethese, only a certain type of
women.
But it'll say something like um, oh yeah, um, yeah, we should
hang out, and all this.
I'm like, all right, cool, cool, cool.
Then a day later I find out yougot a nigga.

(25:17):
Then I'm like I mean, what?
Why?

Speaker 1 (25:21):
And.

Speaker 2 (25:22):
I'm thinking about the type of girls I would want
for me.

Speaker 1 (25:24):
Yeah, right, right.
And it's like, yeah, that'svery, yeah, it's weird, yeah,
it's slimy.

Speaker 2 (25:30):
Yeah, it's like you're trying to dress this up
in your head.
And then, as soon as she said,yeah, I got a nigga, it's the
same girl.
And she said I got a niggaBasically, nigga, it's the same
girl.
And she said I got a niggabasically.
And then I was like, oh well,shit, uh.
So I said something on thelines of well, I gotta watch out

(25:53):
, or something.
I said something like basicallyaddressing that she has a man.
And then she hit me back with Ithought we was friends.
And then I'm like yep, and thenshe said the next day she's
like oh, I guess I'm single now.
He broke up with me and then Iwas like, oh, what happened?

(26:16):
Niggas is crazy.
I was like you need to pickbetter.
And then she said bye, laughout loud, I was out yeah yeah
yeah, yeah, yeah, and that's onethat probably together.
Yeah, yeah, that's probably, sheprobably moved on yeah,

(26:38):
probably like that yeah yeah, Idon't know, I didn't, it's just
like certain things, was she fat.
What would you say?
Her 1 out of 10?
1 out of 10.

Speaker 1 (26:53):
She was like 6.7.
So she was very middish.

Speaker 2 (26:59):
She was.
Yeah, you can say, I never mether.

Speaker 1 (27:02):
So I don't know in real life.
How quick are you to FaceTimesomebody if you meet them online
?
Man.

Speaker 2 (27:12):
I need to do that first.

Speaker 1 (27:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (27:15):
I need to do that first, not quick, because I feel
like that's awkward.
I feel like that's awkward, Ifeel like for I'll be giving
folks the benefit of the doubtbecause I'm me, like, I'm
actually what's on there, yeahso I just automatically know you
know what I look like and Iknow what you look like, yeah,

(27:38):
yeah, but um, yeah, somebody hadtricked me.
I, that's what I told you about.
I had a conversation, it wascool, we had a long conversation
, and then we FaceTimed and Iwas like that ain't the photos.
That's not the pictures.
And I'm like damn.
We had a real good conversation.
It was a long conversation andI was like damn she, cool as

(28:04):
hell.
And then when the FaceTime cutoff, I was like damn, cool as
hell.
And then when the FaceTime cutoff.
I was like damn, she got my assand I was like, damn, I should
really FaceTime these people,but I don't want to be.
The first thing that I do isjust FaceTime somebody.

Speaker 1 (28:14):
That's so weird what was that link between when y'all
first exchanged numbers to theFaceTime?

Speaker 2 (28:22):
what was the?

Speaker 1 (28:23):
link, link, like a week was a week apart.

Speaker 2 (28:27):
A couple days uh to when we facetimed yeah, from the
time you got her number, fromthe time y'all facetime how many
days apart was that, uh, it waslike a day okay, so that wasn't
that long then yeah, no, butlike we just had an initial, our
initial conversation on thephone lasted way longer than

(28:47):
normal because it was like agreat conversation.
And then at the end of thatconversation she was like I'm
about to do something and shejust said, like she suggested to
facetime okay so and I was likeI mean all right.
And then I did, and I was likedamn yeah, you was very

(29:10):
disappointed I was.
I just I don't understand.
Yeah, yeah, like, why?
Yeah, that, I don't like that.
I don't like that.
Yeah, I don't like that.
Yeah, and she had a lot ofpictures.
That's what fucked, mia, ohokay.
I'm like you ain't had justthree, you had about 50.

Speaker 1 (29:29):
Yeah, how did you fool me?

Speaker 2 (29:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (29:34):
But yeah, women can do makeup really well and it's
literally simple things thatpeople can do to where it
enhances your beauty.

Speaker 2 (29:44):
One thing I realized, though check to see if they
smile in their pictures okaythat needs to go down in history
somewhere.
Okay, check to see if they smilein their photos that's rule
number one that there are a lotof I don't know what rule that
is, but that is a big one.
That is a big one.
Check to see that.
Because that was a thing whenshe yeah, because every time,

(30:06):
like she laughed and all thatthen it was a couple.
It was like it was her and itwas another girl.
This is, this is over a periodof time, like a long period of
time, but it was another girland then she smiled and she was.
She was insecure about hersmile and she would kind of get
off of the FaceTime a little bitevery time that she would smile
and you can clearly see likewhile she's getting off she has

(30:28):
a gap in it like I give a fuck,but like she did.

Speaker 1 (30:34):
And then I was like damn.

Speaker 2 (30:36):
Like I didn't know you were insecure.
But, I'm just saying like and Iwould have never known that
either, because she didn't smilein the photos.

Speaker 1 (30:45):
I'm just saying I forgot it because you mentioned
you.
Oh, my question I remember nowit was what do you know what you

(31:06):
want in a woman?

Speaker 2 (31:06):
now, yes, for the most part I do, because I'm
still growing.
I don't know which way I'mgonna go.
I do know which way I'm gonnago, but I also don't, because I
didn't pop yet you didn't pop.
I didn't pop yet you didn't pop.
I didn't pop Like right sosilly.

Speaker 1 (31:25):
Oh, okay, I didn't know Like.

Speaker 2 (31:26):
I'm the no.
No, I didn't pop yet, so Idon't know what that life is
about.
You know what I'm saying?
Like that could change.
It's going to change.
I don't know what.
That's going to be, okay, so Idon't know what that's going to
be.
So I'm saying I know for themost part I want a woman who

(31:48):
works out, who is close to Godand can like it's a little loose
, like, not just like superstrict.

Speaker 1 (32:02):
You know what I'm saying?
Go to the bars and have drinks,yeah, okay, like some Knows,
how to twerk.

Speaker 2 (32:08):
I mean that's fine, okay, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (32:13):
Do you think you want her to be reserved or she can
be the life of the party?

Speaker 2 (32:22):
Does that matter to you?
No, I've had, I've had bothbefore.
I like both, I like both.
I I do like I don't know, it'slike the.
The other stuff can be kind oflike up and down because, you
know, I, I do like a girl who'sall over me and stuff, but at
the the same time not just allover me but like has a big

(32:44):
personality, just like has a bigpersonality, because then I'm
laughing, I do like to laugh.
That is big for me.
But let's say, if you tone thataspect down, but you turn up,
gives massages, cooks all thetime, I can deal with that.

Speaker 1 (32:59):
Yeah, wait, wait, yeah, so like yeah, all the
other stuff could deal with that.

Speaker 2 (33:01):
Yeah, right, right, yeah, so like, yeah, all the
other stuff is just kind of likefine tuning and it's case by
case basis, but I do know thatthat's mainly what I want and,
of course, somebody who's likeextremely like, interested in me
well, she meets all that buthas a big body count.

Speaker 1 (33:18):
Does that bother you?
A big body count yeah, she's upfor 50 men 50 men.

Speaker 2 (33:24):
I don't know, yeah, it's gonna, it's gonna you know.
Yeah, I don't know, becausethat's, that's a life decision
what if that's that's?

Speaker 1 (33:34):
that's a decision making skill.
What if she has a low bodycount?
She meets all that but has sexwith one of your close friends
but didn't date him.
Counts she meets all that buthad sex with one of your close
friends, but didn't date him.
So your homie was like yeah, Idon't care if you, if you like
that, it was just a one-timething there's no energy behind

(34:08):
it.

Speaker 2 (34:08):
You know, on paper it doesn't matter, but, but in
real life, like I just had, Idon't, I don't be wanting.
That's like me, me showing upto the same function with you.
We got the same shirt on.
This is like it's cool, likewhy we got the same shirt on.
It's like this awkward feelinglike every time we see each
other.

Speaker 1 (34:26):
I'm saying you like her a lot, it's not like.
And then?

Speaker 2 (34:28):
yeah, I like this shirt a lot yeah yeah, yeah, but
when I see you, like you know,I don't know.

Speaker 1 (34:37):
I don't know if I could do.
Does it depend on the friend?

Speaker 2 (34:41):
I don't think it depends on the friend.
I don't that if I could do it,does it depend on the friend?
I don't think it depends on thefriend.
I don't that's kind of, and Ihave a friend.
I have a friend who actually,like, has somebody who dealt
with somebody else before.
Not me but like another friendwho has somebody else that dealt
with somebody before, they'redoing great, you know.

Speaker 1 (35:06):
And it's great's great.
But yeah, I don't know you cando it.

Speaker 2 (35:08):
I don't, I don't know , I don't know if I could.
I feel like it's awkward alittle bit.
What about you?
You think you could do that?

Speaker 1 (35:14):
uh like he didn't care at all he didn't care at
all and I found like because Iusually don't strive if I I
would have to like not knowinglygo for that person you know,
what I mean, like I can go intoit knowing, because it's still a
little weird.
Yeah, yeah, yeah because then Iknow her through him for the

(35:37):
most part oh yeah, kind of I cansee it later.
Yeah, yeah.
But if that's somebody I'mtalking to for four months, then
it's like oh, tate smashed.
I would kind of live, yeah,yeah.
And he was like bruh, I'm coolwith it, yeah, I'm cool with it

(35:59):
too.
I just, I won't see it that way.
Yeah, yeah, like even you Waslike yeah, I was like Okay, yeah
, yeah.

Speaker 2 (36:07):
I just I yeah.
So there was a time when I wasin a room With the girl I was
dating and I was in the roomWith A friend who was dating A
girl that I dated and say onemore time I'm in a room with me

(36:30):
and a girl I'm dating right now.
Yeah, and also in the room ismy homie, who is with a girl
that I dated before, and we playa game.
We're drinking and we play agame was that present?
I don't know, just tell me ifyou remember, or not okay but we
play.
You were present in the carwhen we drove, yeah, you

(36:53):
remember that one.
So yeah, and then it was anever have I ever game.
And then it was like then itgot to a sexual standpoint, oh
yeah, never have I ever did this.
But in my head, like I wentwith you for a while yeah, yeah,
yeah.

Speaker 1 (37:11):
So you wanted to cut him out, but you knew not to no,
it wasn't that.

Speaker 2 (37:15):
It was just like how awkward is this?
Okay, yeah like even for mygirl at that time, like
listening and like never had,but like they did something and
I'm in my head if something popsup that I did with her.
Yeah, that's awkward as fuck,that's awkward yeah.
So that alone, that thatsituation alone, it just like

(37:40):
being with somebody who didsomething with somebody.
It's like it could be cool, butcertain instances make you be
like why the fuck, yeah, am Ieven here?

Speaker 1 (37:49):
I'm just understood.
That would be awkward and Iwould semi have a problem with
that situation yeah but thoseare very one-offish oh god, one
in a million yeah, like how?
What are the odds at our agethat we're playing never, ever,
ever?

Speaker 2 (38:02):
oh god, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's so weird now.
Oh yeah yeah yeah, so.

Speaker 1 (38:11):
So that would be like a weird situation and then,
yeah, but that's, yeah, that's,that's not the normal, what I'm
talking about.
I'm talking about like aone-off yeah, not you dating
somebody for years, and then ohyeah yeah, to where you know
that person intimately uh-huh,yeah, yeah okay, because that
yeah, so that's just acompletely different situation

(38:32):
I've seen it work.

Speaker 2 (38:33):
Yeah, I've seen it work.

Speaker 1 (38:35):
My mind, I don't know , I don't um, I don't like shit
lingering for me I think, Ithink it would linger in my mind
like I'm sure, yeah, yeah, butI also don't want to if they're
fitting.
I said fit all the qualitiescooks well, hilarious.
Everything I want in a womanthen I'm not going to.

(38:55):
Yeah and she has a low bodycount.
For whatever, I'm not even thetype of person to ever ask for
my body count.
Um, but I don't like to see alot of people you dated, because
then I'm going to just thinkyou have a high body count it's
like yeah, yeah so I neverreally had to, I guess well,

(39:16):
nashville's small yeah, yeah,yeah and so
um and then people be out andabout a lot and then I know you
be out like that.

Speaker 2 (39:25):
I don't really care for that uh-huh, I don't like a
girl who goes out all the timeyeah, well and Well, and me for
me, I go um, and my sister kindof spotted it.

Speaker 1 (39:35):
It's like I'm a man like a chameleon, to where I can
be in different places andsomewhat fitted not maybe all
the way, but um, but so I I knowplaces where not to go, because
that's somebody I used to date.
You know what I mean yeah yeah,so so it that's not gonna be

(39:56):
the same thing that happens tome yeah yeah, because I was like
okay, this girl I talked to sheworks here, I'm not gonna go
there, yeah, yeah no for a fact,that's just exactly, but yeah,
you would think um so you raninto somebody who somebody dated
before.
Oh yeah yeah, yeah, damn, butbut was it?

Speaker 2 (40:16):
was it a situation where, like they definitely
could have avoided this?

Speaker 1 (40:20):
it's not so.
It's not like it's an actualissue in that, in itself, like
that one particular instance.
I'm just saying, for example,an instance, but if it happens
multiple times, then I'm like,alright bro.
Like yeah, yeah, it's justweird.

(40:42):
It's a feeling it's likealright, who am I dating?
You know what I mean?
Yeah, because you're very much.
Yeah.
Yeah, I feel like it's anotherpart of you that I don't know,
yeah, yeah, but they know, huh,of course they know.
Yeah, they know they're supposedto know themselves well, so I'm
just so.

(41:02):
That's why I was like, okay,it's like all right, who are you
really for real?
Yeah, yeah, yeah so.

Speaker 2 (41:13):
But we actually run up on time and there's a couple
things that we can just because,uh, just, uh.

Speaker 1 (41:16):
So so the shannon sharp thing, um so the the
biggest thing it's not the factthat he raped her.
I think everybody's not hadthat discussion.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, becausethat's what he's actually
getting sued for and people aremissing that.
Yeah, yeah, so it's the.
The conversation is about theirage and discrepancy.

(41:38):
Do you feel that as the issue?

Speaker 2 (41:41):
uh, I think that's alarming.
It's a little I don't know ifthe word is alarming, but it
just feels like I just don'tunderstand.
As of right now in my life, Idon't really understand sitting

(42:02):
down and talking to a20-year-old woman yeah, yeah,
even for me right now.
Yeah, yeah, even for me rightnow like when it goes down to
like 10 years, and then I can, Ican hear it, I can sense it on
them that they're younger andthey think like differently,

(42:24):
like not on the same uh level asI do.
I can feel it, I can see itwhen they walk and talk, and so
it's like to be 20 more yearsolder and with that same type of
person, uh, I, I just don'tunderstand that right now.

(42:47):
So that's that's kind of likemy thing and it just makes me um
now, so that's that's kind oflike my thing and it just makes
me um, wonder what that is.
But, like you have said, uh oneday about how you know,
leonardo dicaprio uh, deals withsuper young women and um other
people, other, a lot of otherpeople.
So I, I just don't understandit.

Speaker 1 (43:09):
So I asked a question in a different way.
How do you feel when you'reable to teach your girl
something and they get extremelyexcited that?
You gave them that information.

Speaker 2 (43:24):
So I get that.
That I do get, because I datedsomeone who was like like 31,
like a year younger than me, andthen I dated someone who was
like 28 and it was different andit was like I knew for a fact

(43:47):
that I could say more to her andshe would be more so not only
receptive, but more so excitedabout the information.
Yeah, because it seemed like I Iam a very knowledgeable person
yeah and with the other girl,who was like 30 something, I

(44:09):
could tell that they're like Iwould have to go further to to
surprise her.
You know, of course she wassmart to tell anyway.
But yeah, there is definitely adifference.
I will say that.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (44:23):
Yeah, and so I think that there's something about
that too.
I'm going to speak toShannonannon like sports.
Shannon is like he has that,because I mean, once she's that
young, so there's a lot ofthings.
There's what he beauty is inthe eye beholder, so they talk
about her looks and how she'saverage, in which I feel that

(44:45):
way too but, also that's to thebeholder, so that's kind of
irrelevant.
So you have that aspect of her,her fitness, her willing to have
sex often, to keep going tokeep up with his sexual appetite
, and then for his, what I feellike the biggest thing of them

(45:08):
all is for him to show hersomething.

Speaker 2 (45:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (45:11):
Yeah, and she gets excited.
You know she's OnlyFans, youknow probably not making a bunch
because it's a very saturatedmarket.
And then you're able to giveher thousands of dollars, be
able to pay her rent, boy, wouldthat get anybody excited?
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah yeah, yeah, now youhave financial freedom that's

(45:32):
what we all ask for yeah, oh,yeah, yeah because she said 25
000 for each sheet.
First of all, she ain't, thatwasn't a joke.
She, she's very much whethershe's trying to play it off and
making a joke.
She wants 50 000.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And maybe he he gots a lot ofmoney.

(45:52):
He got an.
He said he got paid from thatcat Williams interview three
times what he made in the NFL ina year or something like that.
Dang yeah.
So he that's just one interview, he has multiple.
Uh, a hundred, yeah, yeah, yeah, espn money, fox money, his NFL
check um Nightcap.

Speaker 2 (46:16):
He got investments, I'm assuming yeah there's a lot
of money that Shannon Sharp has,so he very much as easily gave
her $50,000 or plus yeah, I mean, he knows I do agree with that,
I do agree with that, uh, andagain, like that's why I say I
just don't necessarilyunderstand right now, just

(46:38):
because of that whole thing, butlike I do get the whole
submissive thing.
It seems like it seems likeit's more of a submissive
relationship from the woman ifthe man is just very, very
knowledgeable, and one way tofor sure know that is if the age

(46:59):
gap is, it's got a big age gapand um, my, not, uh, oh, because
we we got a lot of things.

Speaker 1 (47:11):
One more thing to cover, but the point, not point.
What I wanted to also add tothat Shannon Sharp lawsuit is
something don't feel right inthis there's a lot of, is it?
I don't know if it's maybe herjust idea, but it don't feel

(47:32):
that way Because the only reasonwhy I'm really saying that is,
if she's 21, $10 million for herto be doing something she's
been doing with him.

Speaker 2 (47:46):
Are you saying for him to like already trying to
shut it up?

Speaker 1 (47:49):
No.
For her not to take thatsettlement seems very, very
weird to me, because she she hasto.
When they making you an offer,you have to come back to your
client with that.
So tony busby is a lawyer, um,and he's he, he's the one giving
guidance.

(48:09):
So he's telling her no, we canget more, but just for some
reason for her not to acceptthat feels like there's a lot of
things going on.

Speaker 2 (48:21):
Like timing.
He actually did do something.

Speaker 1 (48:23):
No, not really.
I'm saying it feels a littlebit more darker.
In what way?
I'll just plainly say what I'msaying.
The Cat Williams interviewdisturbed a lot of people.
Yeah, yeah, yeah so people oncethey get back, and Cat Williams

(48:47):
was supposed to come again tohis podcast to reveal whatever,
yeah, to reveal whatever youknow what I mean.
Uh-huh People very much do notlike Shannon Sharp For real,
yeah, for sure.
I mean.
Yeah, that was his platform toreveal a lot that tore down
people's houses and brands thatthey need to build back up.

(49:08):
So I don't.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I feel likethere's more to play than what
it just leads on.
And I'm just using that as anexample.
I don't know what's behind thescenes, but it feels much more
than just that.

Speaker 2 (49:21):
I do feel like if somebody said something crazy
and I said, look, here's 10million, I feel like I did
something to even do that.

Speaker 1 (49:35):
Yeah, but you okay because they're able to show you
a recording of hey, this iswhat I have on you.
We got a lot more.
She could have been filming alot of.
She could have had a teddy bearon the camera and put camera
and put his thumb up, her thumbup his butt, mm-hmm.
Oh very revealing.

(49:56):
Hey, we don't put this onTwitter.
Yeah, yeah, so is so it couldbe anything, because she already
talked about eating his ass inthe text message oh, I didn't
even see that I think I believe,I believe, so, yeah, yeah.

(50:19):
Or or vice versa uh-huh, yeah,yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (50:21):
So it could be easily wilder shit I, I can, I can see
that, yeah, yeah but there'sanother.
Yeah, yeah, 50 million is a lotyou think this is a ploy to
take him down.
I just didn't think.
Usually, when stuff like thathappens, it feels like that
person is bigger, like Diddy big.

Speaker 1 (50:43):
But people very much want their get back.
So, for example, what remindsmeulk hogan is is big.
Yeah, I mean you when you saysomebody's bigger.
The shannon sharp stuff iseverywhere.
It's not just a, just a asection in the black twitter.

Speaker 2 (51:05):
You know what I mean this is everywhere.

Speaker 1 (51:07):
Anybody who's talking about is getting a ton of views
.
It's a very much a huge thingso yeah, yeah.
So this is like you know.
I don't want to say this isamerica renowned information.
Yeah, he's on espn, theworldwide leaders in sports.
Yeah, he had the biggestinterview in youtube history
yeah, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah sohe's a big one he's in the hall

(51:32):
of fame from cry out lies.
Used to be the best tight end,the best in his field, so he's,
he's.
I mean there's no, I don't knowwho.
Yeah, diddy is a huge name, butshannon sharp's up there, yeah,
yeah, so, um, so, yeah.
And then, not only that, itdon't if, if you're my, I my, I

(51:53):
I'm going to take you down,regardless of how you you can,
you tore down my shit.

Speaker 2 (51:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (51:57):
I'm going to tear down your you tore down my brand
Huh.
What did he tear down by havingCat Williams?

Speaker 2 (52:02):
Cat Williams really just talked about black people
for real.

Speaker 1 (52:06):
Okay, there's a lot of big names that he mentioned.

Speaker 2 (52:10):
Steve Harvey, sedgwick's Entertainer.
What does Tony Busby care?
It don't.
I was thinking you was talkingabout corporations, that it
seemed like it was just straightcomedians.

Speaker 1 (52:23):
Yeah, yeah, I mean yeah, he can say a lot of things
.
Harvey Weinstein, he talkedabout a lot of things.
I had an executive ask to suckmy dick.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, and you'rebiting back on and you may say
more yeah yeah, yeah, there's alot of things, a lot of people,

(52:44):
and not only that the peoplethat you just named, those,
those are big guys, big brands.
So if they get an opportunityto tear somebody down I'm not
saying they did, um, they couldyeah and and they can use it
through lawyers.
They do things through lawyersall the time yeah, and that's

(53:05):
very much what lawyers do, so sofor her, for him to not take
that 10 million dollars fromgabriella tells me.
There's a bigger play than thathe knows he can get more.
Yeah, and somebody's probablypushing him and paying him on
the side to go further.
Yeah, so they gave him a numberthat he couldn't, that they

(53:27):
that they know he wouldn'trefuse or that he was going to
refuse, so they can make it athing.
That's why I feel like it's notyeah, yeah, because otherwise
10 million we.
So, while I get 30, 40, 50 ofthat as a lawyer, that's easy
money I'm done call it a day Igot easy, easy bad, that's what

(53:48):
I was, I didn't have to gofurther.
I didn't have to put my nameinto this.

Speaker 2 (53:53):
You think they're trying to shut?

Speaker 1 (53:53):
them down.

Speaker 2 (53:54):
Huh, you think they're trying to shut them down
.

Speaker 1 (53:56):
I think they're putting.
I think they did what theywanted, they got what they
wanted done.
So whatever happens, happens, Idon't think nothing happened,
for real.

Speaker 2 (54:06):
He took a break from ESPN, or whatever.

Speaker 1 (54:09):
They can go further.

Speaker 2 (54:11):
I feel like the only thing they could go further with
is it just being humiliating.

Speaker 1 (54:17):
It is very much humiliating, not like he raped
somebody.
We do got a close shot though.

Speaker 2 (54:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (54:24):
Alright, this is two for the culture.
We'll be back with anotherepisode.
Sorry for cutting it off soquickly.
Absolutely Alright, peace.