The Uber Files: Tales from the Front Seat

Justin and Steven share candid stories and perspectives on movies, music preferences, work experiences, and relationship boundaries in this wide-ranging conversation that moves effortlessly between humor and depth.

• Christopher Nolan's Memento sparks a discussion about psychological thrillers and movie preferences
• Comparing J. Cole, Drake, and Kendrick Lamar's music and their differing impacts and replay value
• Justin's disastrous experience as an Amazon delivery driver in LA hills, complete with a truck hanging off a cliff
• Steven's approach to management and efficiency in previous jobs
• Navigating the potential of growing recognition as content creators
• The challenges of maintaining authenticity on social media while considering audience growth
• Perspectives on blended families, dating partners with children, and relationship boundaries
• Agreement that safety concerns trump all other considerations in relationships, especially regarding "crazy" exes

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
And we are back with another episode of Two for the
Culture.
I'm Justin Devante, I'm StevenRay.
Yes, sir, we're back.
How you feeling, feeling good?

Speaker 2 (00:09):
man Feeling great.
Oh yeah, weekend's good.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like I said, it wasn't nothingtoo much A little bit of tequila
, a little bit of movie.
Watch Memento if you've neverseen it.

Speaker 1 (00:22):
What is it about?

Speaker 2 (00:27):
memento.
You've never seen it, was itabout?
It's just about this guy.
It's about this guy who cannothold new memories, so every five
minutes it's like it's new andhe's trying to solve, basically,
a murder let's hit it okay.

Speaker 1 (00:43):
And who is like, is he just a regular citizen?

Speaker 2 (00:47):
basically, basically like a regular guy who's
murdered uh his wife.
His wife was uh raped andmurdered oh, wow yeah, so he
trying to find him and, um, heforgets every five minutes.
So he has to have polaroids.
He takes pictures of things.
He's like he checks his pocket.
He's like, okay, I stay here,all right, this person I could

(01:09):
trust.
This person I could.

Speaker 1 (01:11):
It is is really cool.
Okay, so my next question is umevery five minutes.
So at what point did he startlosing his memory?

Speaker 2 (01:22):
uh, when when happened to his wife because
they came in, they broke intohis crib and when he tried to
save her, some dude clocked himon the back of his head or
something and then he hit thepavement and then he started
bleeding and shit.
Okay, so it was in that moment.
That's his last memory.
Is his wife?

Speaker 1 (01:41):
getting murdered.
But now he has to rememberevery five minutes for the rest
of life.
So he has to remember that hecan't.
So he can't remember anything.

Speaker 2 (01:53):
Nope, not in the last five minutes.
It resets every five minutes,every five, five, ten minutes.

Speaker 1 (01:58):
But he remembers his wife dying.

Speaker 2 (02:01):
Yeah, so that's his last memory.
Yeah, okay, yeah, everythingwas normal.

Speaker 1 (02:04):
And then after that, every five minutes, yeah, I have
to see this because I alreadyhave so many questions.

Speaker 2 (02:13):
I couldn't even check Instagram.
I couldn't do anything else butwatch that Like you're going to
miss something if you take youreyes off the screen.
Okay, it's Christopher Nolan.
So, that's basically one of myfavorite directors.

Speaker 1 (02:26):
Inception.

Speaker 2 (02:27):
Interstellar what was this on Amazon Prime.

Speaker 1 (02:32):
Okay, so this is like an Amazon Prime original.

Speaker 2 (02:35):
No, you know Amazon Prime.
They got movies now.

Speaker 1 (02:38):
Yeah, but I'm just saying they also yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2 (02:41):
Well, bi-movies are, you know, kind of like Netflix.
You can look up NuttyProfessors.

Speaker 1 (02:46):
Right, that's what I'm saying Like.
Oh okay, Hold on, Let me makesure I'm on the same page.
You know, like Mr and Mrs Smithseries is strictly on Amazon.

Speaker 2 (02:56):
Prime, not an exclusive thing, it's a movie
that came out.

Speaker 1 (03:00):
Oh, okay.

Speaker 2 (03:06):
I got you yeah, in that came out, oh yeah, in
theaters in 2000.
Okay, so this is an old movie.
Yeah, this is one of his.
I think that that moviecatapulted him.
Okay, well he he, he filmedbatman begins, and that in the
same like couple years.

Speaker 1 (03:17):
Okay, yeah did we talk about weapons?

Speaker 2 (03:20):
I didn't see weapons, but I'm not gonna see it you're
not no, I saw a trailer.
I'm straight.
I heard it was great though no,I do believe that it was great,
but I don't fuck with scarymovies oh, okay, right yeah.
So at first I thought it wasjust like a little scary or
whatever, but like when I saw itI'm like I gotta watch this on
like a Saturday at noon orsomething like that I feel you,

(03:43):
but Sinners is not a scary movieto you.
Not at all.

Speaker 1 (03:47):
It's a vampire death.
It is a horror movie, Horrormovie yeah, but scary.
Yeah, I feel like.

Speaker 2 (03:55):
The shit gets silent and then you can get scared in
movies.

Speaker 1 (04:01):
If you're trapped in that environment, then if you go
to the movies you liked it,then that one's scary okay.
So I'm saying those are horrormovies though they're horror
movies yes, but I'm just sayingweapons.
It seems like it's a, you know,a well scripted movie that is
also a horror movie yeah, Iheard a couple people say how

(04:23):
scary it was.

Speaker 2 (04:24):
Okay, yeah, so even the trailer.
The trailer looked like I don'tknow, I just pick up on certain
vibes, it's just like I don'tknow if I want to, but I I do
want to see great movies, though, and it seems like that goes
into that category.
So yeah, I might see it.
I might see it like insidiousis a.

(04:45):
I'm not watching it.

Speaker 1 (04:46):
Yeah, exactly, that's a scary movie, yeah, and
somewhat the first one at leastthat what I watched was like a
well-scripted scary movie, like,okay, it's not, it's
intentionally scary, yeah, butit actually plays off of a
somewhat of a good storyline.

Speaker 2 (05:03):
That is fairly well so so, on this podcast, I'm
gonna just ask you a bunch ofquestions okay, just cuz like.
On the last one, I felt like Iwas talking a lot, yeah, this
one did this one.
So so, like out of all themovies that you've seen and
stuff, what, what, what comes tomind?

(05:23):
Let me say it because now Ihave like the back story of this
shit clipping and like talkingtoo long or something.
But if you could see yourselfin a movie, what movie would
that be that you've seen before?

Speaker 1 (05:40):
If I could see myself in a movie, yeah, what is like
relatable, You're like.

Speaker 2 (05:44):
This speaks to me.

Speaker 1 (05:46):
Speaks to me.

Speaker 2 (05:47):
Yeah, as in you feel like you could be playing that
part.
Okay, so like you see yourselfin this movie.

Speaker 1 (05:53):
Okay, so if I'm acting, what type of I can see?

Speaker 2 (05:57):
myself acting, not that you act, but it's very
similar to your life.
Who I am, yeah, who you are, oh, okay, okay, it's very similar
to like your life, yeah, who youare.

Speaker 1 (06:09):
Oh, okay, okay, I got what you're saying.
You're like damn, that's meyeah uh-huh, um, I don't, I yeah
, I don't know, I feel like itwould be a will smith movie, but
there's no will smith movie uh,many blacks yeah yeah, nah.
Um, that speaks to me.
I'll have to get back to you onthat, because that's very
specific.
I feel like that I don't evenknow what that is for me yeah,

(06:29):
yeah, I feel like there isprobably something like that's
very highly relatable, um, but Ican't.

Speaker 2 (06:37):
It's nothing that is coming to mind at this moment
that there will be a stretch totry to figure it out for you too
.
I just like thought about it Iwas like what wonder, if you
know?

Speaker 1 (06:47):
yeah, I mean music wise.

Speaker 2 (06:48):
I feel like j cole spoke to me a lot oh, for real,
like yeah, damn, he had me onlock for a minute yeah, yeah,
like I think it felt good toknowing that I didn't have like.

Speaker 1 (07:01):
I wasn't the only one that thought how he thought no,
fuck bitches get money uh, Idon't think I'm gonna cheat on
my girl I don't know what j coleis to you, but that's not.

Speaker 2 (07:13):
No, I was going back on the, the, the way he used to
be when he was coming up.
That's what he was talkingabout.
He was, just, like you know,adjusting to fame.

Speaker 1 (07:20):
I'm well, j cole.
I do love j cole, so I wasn'ttrying to just only put the
negative out there, but I wasjust playing around.

Speaker 2 (07:29):
But uh, right, right, yeah, no, he, he definitely
spoke to me for sure, especiallyin those those college years
yeah, yeah so what's yourfavorite one?
What's your favorite uh?

Speaker 1 (07:38):
uh, my favorite, j cole song album uh 2014 forest.
A lot of people love that shit.

Speaker 2 (07:44):
Yeah, I don't like it I mean I not that I don't like
it, but I just love boringcenter yeah, I like uh boring
center.

Speaker 1 (07:54):
It's cool.
Yeah, but um 2014 for sale jobswas my favorite one yeah,
there's a lot of people'sfavorite I think that was a good
point in his life to where hewas, like you know, reaching
another height but still, youknow, relatively, you know, like
was in tune to the streets,yeah, yeah.

(08:16):
So you know, and I think hestill always will have an
element of that.
But, you know, he's by far asuper rich nigga.

Speaker 2 (08:24):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (08:25):
yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah so, uh, there's a level
that one foot out of it you are.
You know right yeah, yeah I cansee that, but he still had like
one foot in it, if that makessense yeah, um, yeah, he, he
seems the most genuine I guess,but who's your favorite rapper?

Speaker 2 (08:44):
My favorite rapper is I mean, I just try not to say
Drake.
Who's your favorite artist,who's your favorite rapper?
Who's your favorite?
Yeah, drake.
And why is that?
Drake get 90% plays.

Speaker 1 (09:01):
Yeah, yeah.
And why is that?
Is it the versatility?

Speaker 2 (09:07):
It's the versatility.
I think it's my voice like apersonal thing, like it's in my
range of, like how I speak andlike my tone If I were to hum
certain things.
It's things, it's very in linewith it, so it's so easy for me

(09:28):
to sing along to these things.
So, yeah, he got me a long timeago, but I do love the
theatrics that.

Speaker 1 (09:40):
Kendrick portrays in his music.

Speaker 2 (09:43):
It's very I was going to say Oscar-worthy,
grammy-worthy, like it's a moviejust playing out you know?

Speaker 1 (09:54):
Yeah, no, I feel that you can like feel it a little
bit more.

Speaker 2 (09:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (09:58):
Yeah, yeah, when the inflections in his voice, it is
very theatrical.
Yeah, you're 100% right.

Speaker 2 (10:04):
Yeah, it's very beautiful, and get you, get you,
get you, get you drake ain'tdoing that.
Yeah, right, yeah yeah, drakeis very much a here and now I
don't know it's, it's, it's,it's very right now music like
you play the track.
I'm hopping on this hoe likethat's drake, uh, for the most
part, but kendrick, it justseems, except gnx, but like his

(10:27):
other stuff, it just, it justseems so, so well thought out,
like, like niggas can writeessays on that shit, yeah yeah,
so to people, butterfly is oneof my favorite albums.

Speaker 1 (10:38):
That and uh, late registration okay, yeah, yeah
you, you did bump lateregistration a lot uh to be able
to fly.
Um, I tried to get into it.
Still not a super fan.
It's been a little bit bettersince I first listened to it,
but yeah some, sometimes it justdoesn't land you know, yeah,
and you know I still like a lotof kendrick music.

(10:59):
I'll listen to us still a lotof his stuff, but damn, didn't
grow like I loved him when itfirst came out but I don't
really care for it now that'susually how it's like, for some
reason that's the same thingwith me.

Speaker 2 (11:15):
Drake for some reason just got staying power.
You don't even got to betalking deep, but it's just got
like that replay power andKendrick.
Kendrick for me is usually amoment Like damn.
I remember playing that andthen somebody said, you know,
it's supposed to go in reversetoo, and all that type of shit,

(11:37):
and I started getting deeperinto it and they had me for like
a month, just like that was theonly thing I played, like
studied that shit.
Antipipa Butter played like,studied that.
Answer pimple butterfly studiedthat.
And then after it, you know,it's just like the moment just
kind of goes away and then youknow if I'm anywhere, I'm not
just going to play that, youknow what I'm saying.
Or when you're in a car, likeon the radio and all this you

(12:01):
know it.

Speaker 1 (12:02):
it usually switches back to Drake.
Yeah, I would say ThugMotivation 101 is one of my
favorites.
I remember that shit on the CD,yeah yeah, yeah, twisted Dark
Fantasy is another one, yeah.
It still gives me chills when Ifirst played that For real.

Speaker 2 (12:23):
Damn Thug.
Motivation was one of the ones.
Alright, I gotta read thistoday.
That's crazy, it's good Did youhear the story on that.

Speaker 1 (12:32):
On the Thug Motivation.

Speaker 2 (12:34):
So Jeezy said that he went to the photo shoot for the
cover and they wanted to makehim look like.
You know what the cover lookedlike and the boxes were all
filled with fake money and hewas like I can't be doing this
and it's fake money.
He called his homie and gotlike over a million dollars in
cash and replaced the fake moneywith his real money, just so he

(12:58):
could be as authentic aspossible on the cover that's
some real shit.

Speaker 1 (13:02):
Oh, that's crazy yeah yeah, that's hilarious.
I'll take the fake money.

Speaker 2 (13:09):
Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah but for what it was and, like
the, the, the essence of that'sthat's.
That's right up the alley ofwhat really all he was talking
about on that album.
So that's that's dope.
That's some, that's some realrich nigga shit.

Speaker 1 (13:25):
I got you Going back to Christopher Nolan when you
talk about Kendrick andtheatrical, is that I guess my
first question is do you want tomake movies, Absolutely?
Do you want them to haveultimate meetings to them?

Speaker 2 (13:46):
Yes, like, yeah, like Easter eggs yes, okay.
That's my yes.
That's why I'm watching thosetype of movies right now.
You know, I'll say when I dofinish scripts, versus, like I'm
working on this, but, or, inaddition to that, that's, that's

(14:08):
my route, that's my.
I can't do that in these videosthat I do on Instagram.
So, like when I was makingmovies with Rob, like I'm really
into the script, and with my exuh, we used to, we used to
write scripts together too.
So, um, yeah, like I'm reallyinto that shit, bro.

(14:31):
Like, yeah, I love that.
The, the, the, looking the, the,the the, the the the science
part to it, the thepsychological aspect that you
gotta like look back and youknow, get certain things, like
you said, easter eggs that's.
That's completely up my alley.

Speaker 1 (14:51):
So what if you did do that in your videos, in your
small clip video, like I've doneit?

Speaker 2 (14:58):
before, but, like the , the farthest that I would go
with, that is, I'm talking aboutsomebody and only they know
like that's really as far as Ican get in like a 30 second clip
.

Speaker 1 (15:12):
Yeah, I got you right yeah it's only one person, it's
like and you know other thanthat.

Speaker 2 (15:20):
I can't really well, I don't want to say I can't get
too deep into it, but it just is.
It's more difficult to do thatin like a 30-second thing.
So yeah, that's why I like justmaking longer content.
Yeah longer content, okay.

Speaker 1 (15:36):
Yeah, and I feel like it's hard to, because you could
even do five minutes onsomething just in general, like
making a skit.
Is that fairly difficult to do?

Speaker 2 (15:47):
uh, with the green screen yeah, I guess yeah uh,
yeah, with the green screens.
Yes, in a way, the last time Idid that was the granny the
iskit.
It did that like I don't knowhow long ago.
Um, that took two weeks to edit.
So I mean, it takes me like anhour to edit now for like a 20

(16:12):
second video.
That took two weeks of nothingbut editing on this one thing
and I'm very proud of it, I'mglad I did it.
But like that shit was a lotLike I'd rather even though it
was genius, like how I did it,but like it's almost I'd rather
put that time into like making ashort film or something else.

(16:35):
That's like closer in line withwhere I'm going, even though it
is because it is a short storyor whatever, but putting myself
in there and green screeningmyself in there and editing it
all together, and that was a lotso, which is why I never did a
five minute video again but umdid you get good viewership from

(16:58):
it eventually later on it wasabout 10k, which is good for
YouTube, but I would have to dothat consistently over and over
and over, like maybe once a weektype thing, and it was just
incredibly taxing.
I got you and on top of that,like what, I'm not putting

(17:18):
anything out for like two weeksand it's just exhausting.

Speaker 1 (17:24):
And when you say two weeks, is what is that?
What's your day?
Look like?

Speaker 2 (17:28):
that's eight hours a day spending on this one video
yes okay, two weeks of thatwhole time, that that man, it
was too exhausting first time?

Speaker 1 (17:40):
huh, is that because it was your first time, or you
think it will always be twoweeks?

Speaker 2 (17:43):
yeah, because, like it, wasn't just a one-on-one
conversation.
This is me outside the house,walking in the house, saying hey
, granny, the door opens, Igotta edit all this together.
I walk into the room.
I did there's so many clips, itwas too, it was too much.
But you know, like I, I'll bewilling to do that if I was like

(18:05):
funded for something likehonestly, I wouldn't even want
to do that, I just want to paysomebody to do all that and I
just come with the script okay,I got you do you think that it's
easy for you to uh distributeroles and control distribute
roles.
What?

Speaker 1 (18:22):
do Like you do this one thing, you do that, or do
you feel like you micromanage oryou're a micromanager.

Speaker 2 (18:32):
I think for my own stuff I'd be more passionate
about it for sure.
And me with an editor mindset,I can see me being a little bit
like that.
But not like, but not like.
I'm not like a annoying guy towork with, but I'm me being

(18:52):
passionate about it and it'smine and I'm an editor too.
Like, if you tell me you can'tdo something, like, bro, like
I've been doing this by myselffor like 10 years, you can't do
this, so I don't know, itwouldn't be, it wouldn't be too
much of a micromanager, do you?

Speaker 1 (19:13):
micromanage like at your, at your job.

Speaker 2 (19:15):
I'm saying like, like , when you work at Amazon like
other jobs, no.

Speaker 1 (19:25):
You're just like he's going to get fired anyway.
No, I give you I am.
If I'm managing somebody, I'mgoing to coach you the way you
want to be coached and that'show I receive it to other people
I tell you like hey, you cancome to me with anything, as
long as it's respectful and youknow know, just give a sound

(19:46):
argument and I'm okay to becritiqued if.
If that's how you like it, thenI'll give it to you that way.
If you don't, if you want to beoff for yourself, then I'll let
you be up to yourself.
If you want to be, want to beme next to you and try to give
you some guidance through thewhole thing, then I can do that.
It's just how, however, youlike it you know as long as well
.
I'm gonna have to get myfeedback anyway yeah, I give you

(20:08):
oh how I feel like hey, youknow I'm always trying to be
respectful like hey, I think,trying it this way, would be
good, and then you'd be like,nah, I think this way.
I was like, okay, well, you know, all right, fine, you know it's
nothing today.
It just depends on what thetime on job looks like, and as
long as you're being productive,then it is what it is.

(20:30):
Yeah, so when I did manage, Idon't think I was ever really
that difficult to work with.
So, yeah, and it was operatingoff a good team, good vibes, we
had a good time for what it was.
I mean, we're in crawl spacesand attics.

Speaker 2 (20:47):
So yeah yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (20:48):
So really, you just want to get the job done, but we
had audits afterwards, so we'llhave to pass the audits up.
If we didn't do it right thefirst time, we'll come back.
But you know that's the part ofthings Mistakes are going to be
made, so I'm not going to bethe one to be upset at a mistake
or anything like that, but I'llhave to come behind you,

(21:12):
because it's also my duty tomake sure that the job is done
too.
So, yeah, but it's like, hey, weneed to work on this thing, or
delegating, have the battle isbeing prepared.
So what is the job world goingto look like?
Hey, you do this.
If we can get this done in 45minutes, then we can get to we

(21:33):
can finish for the day and getpaid you know, paid for the rest
of the day if we can get thisdone in two hours.
So I'm going to do this work onthis.
If you give before, I'll comehelp you and yada yada and just
have it built out beforehand.
It's a collaborative thing Ifeverybody's invested, which
typically who doesn't like toget paid for eight hours when

(21:55):
they're working five?
Yeah, yeah.
So it kind of works out thatway, just how the structure is.
So that's why, when I wastalking to the boss, the owner
is like let's make it alsoincentive based.
If you don't get mad if theystep on the roof, you know or
any of us do it if build, buildthat into the structure of your

(22:17):
compensation quality, how manytimes you come back and then you
know you'll feel good about itbeing more efficient and you'll
feel less bad if somebody makesa mess out because they don't
get paid for that so everybodyhas buy-in.
so that's structurally how Irecommended things.
Um, because ultimately I don'tlike to be.

(22:39):
I'm an efficient-minded person,even though I don't apply that
in all my lives, which I need todo, but outside of me, like I
like to.
That's where my mind reallygoes.
It's like, hey, if we canactually look for less tools and
that takes out an hour out ofour day just trying to find
things let's organize itbeforehand, let's get everything
done, and that you know we cancut our business by 30%.

(23:03):
So those are things I like todo and you know you can apply or
you cannot.
Yeah, so I'll always bringthose recommendations, but don't
come to me whining.
It's not as fast, because Igave you the recommendations
that I suggested on what wouldhelp and your way didn't go as

(23:26):
planned.
So it is what it is.

Speaker 2 (23:28):
I remember working at Amazon when I was in LA, as a
delivery driver, and the peopleon my team I guess I would
always have to meet them,because I was always late to
meet them, because, like, I wasalways late, like, not not late

(23:48):
to work, but they would finishat like, if, if, if we clocked
in at 10, you know, they wouldfinish at like 5, 5 pm, uh,
maybe even four or three, andthey would always have to come
help me because I, like, I justcould not get that together, and
then they would have thesesuggestions and they'd be like,
you know, all you got to do isthis, this, this, this, this,

(24:09):
and I was like oh, you know whatthat does speed up time and I
would still be coming out therelike 10 at night not even
finishing and like that.
So I don't know man, maybesometimes people it's just not
the job for them sometimespeople, it's just not the job
for them.

Speaker 1 (24:29):
I mean that that is true.
That's true too.

Speaker 2 (24:30):
Yeah, yeah but did you have a reason on why you
wasn't successful?
Bruh I, I was puzzled at myselfyou know how.
You know how frustrating it islike everybody's giving you the
tools of what you need tosucceed and you just in here,
failing, and you just like, bro,I was doing everything they
said.
You just in here, failing, andyou just like, but I was doing
everything.
They said, oh my god, it, I wasjust, it, just, it just would

(24:51):
not go right.
It just would not go rightevery single time and I tried
but like, yeah, that, that thatwasn't for me, or maybe I just
should have stayed there for acouple more months, or whatever
yeah, I mean, I think that youit sounds like I mean the one
that wasn't the world for you.

Speaker 1 (25:07):
Yeah, also too, is you didn't, you didn't give it
enough time yeah, yeah, no, Iwas just new.

Speaker 2 (25:13):
I was just new, but I don't.
I won't be liking that, even ifI am new, I'm like all right.
So how do I get better thanlast week?
I just was not getting better,yeah.

Speaker 1 (25:20):
I'm like yo what?
What is going on?

Speaker 2 (25:23):
yeah, and I crashed that truck too.

Speaker 1 (25:25):
Oh wow, yep, sure did , definitely did that it was on
a hill, Because we in LA, we inLA, la Like the Hidden Hills
type thing.

Speaker 2 (25:36):
Bruh, the driveway is so skinny it goes all the way
up.
They gave me this huge truck,the biggest one, and I got to
come all the way up here, boomdeliver this and I had to get
back down and I can't turnaround.
How do people do?
And one time it was on, it waslike it was.

(25:57):
It was like when Simba gotlifted up off of which car off
the Lion King yeah, the cliff itwas.
I was on a real cliff and I'mbagging this shit.
I think I Got a 50-50 chance ofmaking it home today.
Well, I'm on the cliff, I'mbagging up and then the truck is
coming off and of the cliff andI gotta like turn it around and

(26:21):
go down.
It was too scary.

Speaker 1 (26:22):
I knew I was, I wasn't gonna stay there yeah,
that would have been enough forme to be like I'm good.
Yeah, I don't even like to dothat in my expedition, yeah yeah
do you have like rear cameras?

Speaker 2 (26:34):
rear camera.
Yeah, what did I see?
The sky like I'm on a cliff.
I'm just saying, yeah, I see abunch of clouds, like what the
fuck?
Like?
No, that was scary, that wastoo scary, that was scary.
Yeah, yeah, I knew I wasn'tgonna make it there, yeah, yeah,
nah, I'm good you tried it yeah, yeah, that is what it is well

(26:57):
hopefully they maderecommendations on maybe getting
a smaller car.

Speaker 1 (27:02):
Just yeah, like give a personal Well hopefully they
made recommendations on maybegetting a smaller car.
Yeah, like give a personal car.
Do they do Amazon Flex?

Speaker 2 (27:08):
They do, they do.
Yeah, that's your own car.

Speaker 1 (27:12):
I think, yeah, exactly, so maybe you can get
those type of cars and takethose deliveries or something,
because that seems verydangerous.

Speaker 2 (27:19):
I definitely came back down and one of the OGs
that worked there the nextmorning they had put him on the
heels because that seems verydangerous.
I definitely came back down andone of the ogs that worked
there the next morning, they hadput him on the heels.
And then he just straight upsay so, I told y'all I don't
like doing them heels.
I I did.
He switched me with somebodyelse.
I'm like damn, I could havejust said that yeah, I wrecked
the out of that.
That had scratches all on, thatdid you report it I didn't have

(27:41):
a choice.
Okay.
Okay, I came back in thewarehouse the was down there
falling off.
I was like, yeah, I did this.
Hmm, okay, make sure you make areport about that, like all
right, like whatever.
No, I definitely I'm not gonna.
I quit that.
I quit that one, like maybe twoweeks after that yeah, I just

(28:06):
knew how long did you stay twoweeks.
I mean, yeah, it wasn't thatlong at all.

Speaker 1 (28:14):
I was miserable.
Of course you wasn't going toget another job.

Speaker 2 (28:19):
I just wasn't.
I wasn't getting better.
I'm fucking up the cars.
I'm a liability.
I just wasn't, bro, likenothing was working.
I wasn't getting better, I'mfucking up the cars.

Speaker 1 (28:24):
You was only there for two weeks.

Speaker 2 (28:26):
I'm a liability Matter of fact.
This job is a liability to menow.

Speaker 1 (28:29):
No, I think they did.
Do you think they just didn'ttrain you well, because it just
sounds like they just told youto start driving.

Speaker 2 (28:38):
Oh God, oh God.
They said go around these cones, cones.
I hit one of them like it'sgood he's ready.

Speaker 1 (28:52):
What?
Yeah, I just fucked y'all upnow.
Yeah, yeah, of course.
Yeah, yeah, it's over, that'shilarious.

Speaker 2 (28:54):
I mean they be trying to get them out there, people
be quitting and you know it'slike a temp agency damn near
right.
So you know you can't turneverybody around, but I held it
down, you know, in the training.

Speaker 1 (29:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (29:06):
I greeted everybody.
Anybody that needs to go first,I'll go first.

Speaker 1 (29:10):
I was trying to be number one.

Speaker 2 (29:12):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You gotta jump onto the FedExtruck because the thing I fucked
that shit up the footstoolwhateverool, whatever gone.

Speaker 1 (29:24):
I got you.
Uh, I think who could you thinkyou could do around here and
I'm not doing that ever.
No, no, I'm just saying, likethis one would probably be a
little bit better maybe, yeah,no in the streets.

Speaker 2 (29:34):
It was cool.
It was definitely cool.
The only thing is just likewith any other job, you just get
used to the job itself.
So after the, the physic, thephysical portion of you just
like holding boxes and runningaround all day.
After that things get smoother.
But no, it was too manydifferent things in la, but like
yeah, like downtown and now youcan't park here.

(29:58):
And then you got to figure out,yeah, it's, it's a lot of
aspects to it, but again, I justwasn't there that long, yeah,
and I knew, yeah, yeah, and Idon't be liking that part part
of things too.

Speaker 1 (30:08):
It's like it's not um , because I had a similar thing
with like uber eats and doordash when I was doing that.
It's like bruh, I gotta findsomewhere to park downtown to
pick up this food and you knowthey, they didn't have any me,
any tickets specifically foruber eats but, you'll see it
happen.
You know, and I was like dude,you're supposed to right.
And now this is when theysomewhat paid well yeah yeah,

(30:32):
exactly, even pre-covid before.
Yeah, like not to get too muchinto the weeds, but I could.
You got surge charges with uberyou make still get element of
it now, but surge chargesmatched uber charges when you're
a driver and a uber eats driverthat you can work off hand in

(30:55):
hand with each other, so it'ssurgeon all together mmm and
then now I would just eat off ofsurges.
So it still wasn't really worthit to do go in a parking garage
and then wait for the order.
Then come back and have itvalidate your parking and all
this stuff.

Speaker 2 (31:10):
That still was doing too much.

Speaker 1 (31:12):
But now it's even worse.
Yeah, to where you're gettingthree bucks for an order and you
hope that they tip.
Yeah, it's like I don't have tolive for tips like that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, youhope that they tip.
Yeah, it's like I didn't.
I don't like have to live fortips like that yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah.

Speaker 2 (31:26):
I feel that that's kind of what it was with
instacart exactly, and then yougot it again.

Speaker 1 (31:31):
It was cool with them yeah, and then you got to go
all the way up to the floor andstuff like that.
I heard instacart though yeah,I mean I didn't like that either
.
Yeah, because then you got aplace like Sprouts to where you
got a half a cup of macadamianuts and I didn't know Sprouts
like that.
So I'm looking for all thethings and you got the timer
ticking.
Yeah, like oh, the macadamia inthe owls.

(31:55):
Yeah, scoop it into the bag.

Speaker 2 (31:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (31:58):
Yeah, that's so dumb.
And this was during COVID, whenI was really at the instant
cart height and so half thisain't there.
Yeah, yeah so now I gotta havea replacement of the pedia
lights.

Speaker 2 (32:09):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, like no I remember that that was
a terrible time I hated sproutstoo, until, like I, I learned
sprouts.

Speaker 1 (32:17):
They're all sort of similar well, yeah, now that I
go to sprouts, but at the timethat's like going into like a
new galaxy where yeah like Ididn't know nothing.
The owls wasn't really.
They're not really set up toreally look to see what you need
at the time yeah, yeah, becausethey're kind of like all laid
out on the wall and if you don'tknow where you're at, then it's

(32:39):
, it's confusing.
Now I can go to spross becauseI go there often and I can know
what I need, but then I've neverbeen to spross before yeah,
costco used to mess me up too,though.

Speaker 2 (32:47):
Yeah, exactly, because they ain't got.
They don't even got the words.
Yeah, exactly oh my god.

Speaker 1 (32:53):
But the only thing about costco is, they tipped
well on costco oh, facts, yeah,yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (32:59):
Nice families, yeah, nice little lifestyle exactly
they.

Speaker 1 (33:01):
They tip well.

Speaker 2 (33:02):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I definitely agree with
that.

Speaker 1 (33:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (33:05):
Usually, it's usually a nice little house you pull up
to.

Speaker 1 (33:08):
Exactly.
Yeah, yeah and just drop off onthe porch.
Yep, yep, and this is beforepandemic.
Before, like, dropping off onthe porch was a thing.

Speaker 2 (33:16):
Did I tell you that I did Instacart and it was a
naked woman at the door?

Speaker 1 (33:21):
Oh nice, no, I'm just kidding.

Speaker 2 (33:26):
I think I did tell you.
Yeah, one day.
I'm Instacarting and nicelittle neighborhood or whatever,
and I have the order and I seea guy with his shirt off outside
while I'm pulling up.
It's a guy with his shirt offoutside and that's all.

Speaker 1 (33:41):
I saw.

Speaker 2 (33:42):
Very normal, very normal, very normal.
You know, sunny outside Alwayssunny in California and I get
the water.
And then, as I'm walking up tothe porch, the door is wide open
.
Door is wide open and there's alady that just starts like

(34:04):
walking for it.
It looked like a silhouette ofthe lady at first.
So there's just a door is wideopen.
It's kind of dark in there andin the back they have the, their
door open, the, the back dooropen, so the only thing you see
is dark room.
It's bright in the back and asilhouette of a body walking

(34:25):
toward the front.
So, and then, you know, thelight start.
I have to walk up to the, the,the porch.
So like I'm seeing thissilhouette come closer to me as
I'm going to the porch, and thenlight hits her and I mean fully
naked, tatted up all the way,older lady, clearly had work

(34:48):
done, like big boobs, big, youcould see the butt from the
front.

Speaker 1 (34:56):
So you saw her vagina and everything.

Speaker 2 (34:58):
I'm pretty sure, yeah , I'm pretty sure.
But what caught me off guardwas she talk like this yeah,
this, yeah, okay she was finewith being naked in front of you
, absolutely okay.

Speaker 1 (35:09):
Okay, I didn't know if you just saw her no, no, no,
she's walking to the door, whileI'm yeah so, and she's walking
to the door.

Speaker 2 (35:17):
I see her.
I'm like hell, no so then I getthe rest.
Wasn't cute in the face then no, she was like an older white
lady okay an old white lady, notan older like 45, I mean like
maybe 60.
Okay yeah, and got the body,all that shit done, tatted okay,
tatted up, and I just rememberputting the last thing down and

(35:41):
it was like thank you so muchwhat was our man doing chilling
on the couch.
This is them.
This is just this day lifestyle.
I wouldn't be surprised theywere somebody or just the
hippies from LA.
Yeah, so you know there arepeople out there, but that that
threw me off one time yeah, theonly time I've came well, I'm

(36:05):
not gonna say close to that um,because there's one particular
time uber driving you know youget hit, you get uh proposed for
sex and stuff like that.
Okay yeah, yeah, so I wasthinking flirting, that's all
right no, I mean no, that wasn'tthat.

Speaker 1 (36:21):
Yeah, there's flirting, that happens.
But yeah, some people want tobe instantly with it.

Speaker 2 (36:27):
Hmm, and you want to tip.

Speaker 1 (36:31):
They wouldn't ask me for the only thing.
It would be close to asking formoney or like paying.
Format is like paying for mytime was like I still gotta work
do.
How much does it cost to getyou stop working?

Speaker 2 (36:43):
yeah, yeah, but they'd be lit for real.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, like two,three in the morning yeah, yeah,
so I got 200 no, no I was likethat's price.

Speaker 1 (36:54):
I didn't say it to them, but in my head I'm like
that's prostitution, you knowyeah, yeah, I don't want to feel
like a prostitute.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, but you knowsome people be cool and then you
chat up and then you canexchange.
Yeah, yeah, I don't want tofeel like a prostitute.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But you know some people becool and they chat up and then
you can exchange numbers thatway.
But yeah, that was a thing fora while.
Yeah, dang yeah.

Speaker 2 (37:15):
Was it a thing for a while because you kept going to
the same spot purposely?

Speaker 1 (37:19):
Same spot, Like these type of girls come out of here.
So how much is purposely likethese type of girls come out of
here?
So I'm just uh, I mean twoo'clock.
Well, keep in mind we're atourist city, so it's not like
there was one place that youwould go and the girls will be
with it.
It'll be like you're justdriving, naturally and since
this is a bachelorette city, Ihave a bigger car, you fit more
people in there and somebody'sprobably gonna be down for some

(37:40):
type of thing yeah, so it'll belike that, but yeah, so that's
why I'd be like it's.
You know it's a different type,it's different types of women
out here that I could, you knowyou could.
If you don't know your womanlike that, then you could be
there definitely.
You know loyalty concerns forsure.

Speaker 2 (38:02):
Jeez yeah.
That's why I don't mess around.
I feel like that energy isgoing to come back one day, or
maybe it'll just happen, I don'tknow.

Speaker 1 (38:11):
Yeah, yeah, because they can definitely be with it
and you know it was definitely anorm for a while.
Yeah, yeah, Now that I do mostof my drives in the Model Y,
it's not really that, Becauseit's really more like a couple
passenger vehicles.
You know, like two passengersin there.

Speaker 2 (38:30):
Versus the whole party.

Speaker 1 (38:31):
Yeah exactly To where it's going to be more turnt,
there's more people involved andthere's going to be a lot of
hyping up.

Speaker 2 (38:39):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (38:40):
Versus, you know, just like her and her friend you
know, or you having a ride homeand want to feel comfortable in
your ride home, or couples,yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (38:52):
I don't think I've had any crazy stuff.
I used to Uber in Atlanta.
Actually I don't think Ipurposefully Ubered at night.
I was always kind of shaky ofbeing recognized as Ray, so
Silly.
So yeah, I got recognized twiceout of like 500 rides, yeah,

(39:14):
and I actually picked up someinfluencers that I didn't know
but like were around when peoplewere creating content that I
was around and I just neverlooked back.
I just never looked behind me,I got you, yep, I know exactly
who they were.
It's too funny.

Speaker 1 (39:33):
I got you, yeah.
Yeah, Did you pick them up froma nice house Like damn, they
doing way better than me.

Speaker 2 (39:38):
Ha Shit in Atlanta, man, all them folks was they,
was they was out here gettingmoney.

Speaker 1 (39:44):
yeah, I got you.

Speaker 2 (39:45):
But um, uh, uh, uh, uh.
No, I would usually be from theairport, yeah.
I would do a lot of airportrides.
So that that was my main.
That was my main thing was theairport rides.

Speaker 1 (39:58):
Oh, okay.

Speaker 2 (39:58):
Yeah, so yeah, I fucked with it, but um.

Speaker 1 (40:06):
I think it's a hustler's thing like I like.
Maybe one such anotherappreciates that you do that
because like, hey, that's a wayto make money oh yeah, oh yeah,
yeah.

Speaker 2 (40:14):
And then I was scrolling and saw a clip of
young jock over it and they wasgetting on his ass like in the
car.
You ever saw that the man wasin the car?
They was getting on his asslike in the car.
You ever saw that the man wasin the car that was getting on
his ass?
It's like why are you over him?
And he had to finish the ride.

Speaker 1 (40:29):
Yeah, so I was thinking about I was in my head
a little bit, but I mean Iunderstand, I think it's yeah,
I'm glad.
I'm glad I don't live like thatyeah, where it's like I'm not a
recognizable face at all.
Yeah, yeah, so it is kind oflike sometimes, sometimes it's
certain areas certain areas butI haven't felt like that.

Speaker 2 (40:50):
No, wow, I mean honestly, the last time I felt
like that was at your house acouple times, oh yeah just uber
eats and shit yeah yeah, it wasliterally like I don't know,
it's know it's a different typeof crowd.
It was like more black people.
When I was at your house Well,then again I don't really order
anymore but yeah, yeah, a coupleof Taco Bell, wendy's visits or

(41:15):
just Ubering somewhere, like,yeah, I would get recognized,
yeah, it's cool.

Speaker 1 (41:21):
Then it's like, yeah, I understand that because I
look at like you have peoplethat recognize you.
It's like 500,000 people, okay,yeah and there's like dang,
that really changed.
Because you think like that, Ithink that spread out throughout
America.

(41:41):
Thanks, yeah, yeah, but somehowthere'll be a lot of
recognizable faces of that 500000 that like oh, I watch their
videos yeah, it's pockets yeahyeah, pockets of um cities, you
know certain certain uhdemographic um out here, memphis
there's a couple differentplaces.

(42:02):
Yeah, so it can happen.

Speaker 2 (42:05):
Yeah, that kind of scared me out of not scared me
out of but I just like thedifference between being where I
was at in.
Atlanta and.
Memphis and LA, because LA is,like, who am I for real?
Like Jamie Foxx is across thestreet.
You know y'all ain't worriedabout me, right, right, so I
definitely liked it more, um, interms of not being recognized

(42:29):
out there.
Can you see yourself um dipinto that, because you're
actually you know, you'reactually doing that, yeah right
yeah, but also I'm not.

Speaker 1 (42:40):
you're doing a lot of social media stuff, so I don't
really be in that world you are.
I'm just saying like it don'tfeel like.
I just feel like I upload.
Yeah, I do the audio podcaststuff.

Speaker 2 (42:53):
That's it, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1 (42:55):
There's no comments in that you know when you're
working on it.

Speaker 2 (42:58):
Yeah, yeah, so.

Speaker 1 (43:00):
I don't really see it so.
I'll see it on you really don'thave a presence, I guess like
on social media, so it's notlike I can gain a following,
because everything that I'mattached to is the the two for
the culture account, so that'smore of a business thing yeah if

(43:20):
you know, like, if I'm takingmyself out out, like, no, I know
it.

Speaker 2 (43:24):
I know it for a fact.
I was gonna.
I was gonna say that I Irealized that in one of our
podcasts I was like, oh, hedoesn't know, this can go viral,
yeah like it was like something.
It was something you said and Iwas like, oh, he just hasn't
seen it yet.
He don't like not saying youdon't know nothing, but like

(43:44):
yeah, it's going.
It's like the more that we dothis, you're on my page.
Like so I'm not going to stopmaking videos, we're not going
to stop doing the podcast.
Like that, shit is going togrow and then you will be in
that you might be somewhere oneday and then somebody might give
you the little eye.
Yeah, yeah, yeah for sure, andthat you might be somewhere one
day and then somebody might giveyou the little eye.

Speaker 1 (44:03):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure.
I'm nowhere near that now and Idon't.
Yeah, yeah and but, so if, if,like 10 people are coming up to
me like, oh okay, this takingoff, but I'm gonna feel it
before you, like I'm notcompletely clueless to it, all
right yeah yeah, so it's likeI'll see the youtube shorts.
Yeah, yeah, but um, so I'll seelike.
All right, these hoes aregetting a hundred thousand.

Speaker 2 (44:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (44:25):
But also I want to speak authentically, my truth
too.
So there's a level of like Iwant to stay out of it because I
don't want that to get in myhead, cause I can easily like I
shouldn't say that but so-and-sois going to hear this thing,
easily like I shouldn't say thatbut so and so is going to hear

(44:46):
this thing, and.
But I still want to speak mytruth because, like what we
mentioned with j cole is he, hespeaks, you know the truth, he,
you know he's authenticallyhimself, and that spoke to me
and I want to be that in my ownway for somebody else.
Like you're right, hey, he didhave a lot of struggles growing
up and I can.
I can certainly relate.
Maybe that may help me getthrough this moment of time that
I'm in.
So there's a level ofauthenticity Because I can

(45:10):
easily, because even being in arelationship, even how much I do
say, there's so much I holdback on yeah yeah, and I can't
say, yeah, that's not going togo well, I was like this ain't
going to go.
Well right, I was like thisain't gonna go well, yeah.
I can at least defend this if Igo here, that'll be saying too
much and that can make her feeluncomfortable effects.

Speaker 2 (45:30):
Yeah, right, right, no, yeah, it can't seep into
your own life.
Yeah, he's, certain things he'seasily, and you know there'll
be time.

Speaker 1 (45:40):
When I did my last podcast, like my sister was like
I heard you say it.
It's not like I said yourspecific name yeah but I I'll
defend it you know, I'll defendthe action of what I thought was
inappropriate.
And now you handle a situationyeah yeah, and, and it's kind of
and I'll use sibling, I havethree sisters, yeah yeah, yeah,
yeah.

Speaker 2 (46:01):
So you don't know who I'm talking about exactly for
real, yeah no, I did.
Yeah, no, I I do that.
I do that too.
Yeah, I just look at it as like.
I mean, I look at everythingthat I do at this point, like on
social media that you know justautomatically assume
everybody's watching this yeah,just because you don't know, you
don't know audio.
We can have like 50 videos andthey get two views and one of

(46:24):
them got like 10 million likeyou don't, you really don't know
.

Speaker 1 (46:27):
But yeah, and I'm my own critic, so I'll see certain
things like I need to change howI handle that or say that or do
that, or my look, you know,because now I put those
Invisalign joints back in likeyeah like yeah real.
To my face.
I can see the cricket.
I was like I need to fix that.

Speaker 2 (46:42):
Yeah.
I critique myself as well oncertain things and how to speak.
It is helping me a lot in termsof speaking on camera or just
having a conversation on camera.
I feel like in the beginning Iwas a little bit more reserved

(47:04):
or held back or whatever.

Speaker 1 (47:05):
Yeah, but um, I do want to get into one thing
though yeah.

Speaker 2 (47:09):
Yeah, I'm trying to think of something random too.

Speaker 1 (47:10):
I got you uh, tracy Ellis Ross, did you see her
comments?
Comments um, so she was justtalking about, I guess she dated
a guy, didn't work out, but, um, like Obama's a close friend of
yours, and either it was I'mprobably saying it wrong Either
it was a recommendation from afriend or from Obama.

Speaker 2 (47:32):
Hey, you should date this person.

Speaker 1 (47:33):
Or he knew about him but didn't say anything Like hey
, this is actually not a goodperson for you and kind of left
it alone.
She kind of blamed him jokingly.
But the overall conversation ishow would you do you think that
you could be put on by another?

(47:56):
I got to this is too partial topark question.
Do you think that you'll bewilling to accept um a date if
me or another friend was torecommend a girl to you?
That was that think it couldwork between y'all two uh, from
yeah, maybe, maybe.

Speaker 2 (48:19):
yeah, I just got this thing where, like you know,
there was a time where, well,this is different, but I just
feel like everybody likes whothey like, so, like, if it
doesn't happen, naturally, thenit probably wasn't like kind of
meant to be.
I've never been set up on adate before, so that would be

(48:42):
weird.
I would probably do it just todo it once, um, because I mean,
y'all know me, so you know thatI probably would.
I, I don't know I I could saymaybe, yeah, maybe, I would
uh-huh, what would you?

Speaker 1 (48:58):
do um with.
Uh, if I was single, yeah, uh,yeah it, it it would have to be,
yeah, for sure y'all I wouldtake it because yeah, y'all
gonna, y'all gonna think shecute if and that's the first
part of it- yeah, right like ifthe only time I don't is when
it's like um from a girl oh,yeah, I was like I'm probably.

(49:22):
I'm way more kind of probablylike now I'm cool.

Speaker 2 (49:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (49:26):
Yeah, I had to be that shallow Like.
Let me see your Instagramaccount.

Speaker 2 (49:29):
No, I'm good yeah.

Speaker 1 (49:31):
I'm like I'm cool on this one, yeah, yeah, yeah,
because they're more personalitydriven and like my single,
you're single, my friend single,come together, I like y'all
both Like no, that's not how itworks, yeah.
We actually be compatible, right, yeah, so the guys, the homies,
they're going like, hey, shebad and she kind of like you a

(49:52):
little bit, or you know, we toldher about you and she got this
thing going.
Is she fine, and you got thisthing going.
I think this could work, yeah,and so I would be more willing
to that for that.
But my second part question iscould you be a friend that'd be

(50:13):
willing to hook up?
What do you mean.
Your other homie.

Speaker 2 (50:20):
Have you ever alley-ooped your other homie
before?
No, I haven't.
That goes more to what I wassaying, what I was about to say.
So, like I have a homie, andone time there was this girl who
, um, he was in a relationshipand the girl dm'd him and he's
just basically like hey, or likeyou, cute something like that

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that.
And then he was in arelationship, so he was just
like hey, bro, she DM me, butshe's available if you want to
talk to her, and I'm just liketo me.
That just doesn't make sense.

Speaker 1 (50:59):
At this age.

Speaker 2 (51:00):
It's just like people , like who they like she, like
you, you, you know I'm saying so, like to try to alley her to me
first of all, like we're twodifferent complexions where you
know, I'm saying like people wholike me, gonna like me yeah
right, yeah, so the um, the, thealley thing.
To be honest, I don't know.

(51:23):
I don't want to say go tooharsh, but I feel like if I
could easily alley a girl, youcan't bring her home to mama.
If you get what I'm saying she'sa whore just like, if it's that
easy, just like oh, what's thisain't work for me, go ahead.

Speaker 1 (51:43):
I did that, I did that before was she a whore?
Yeah, you know her.
Yeah, I'll talk to you about apodcast.
I mean, you don't know her likethat.

Speaker 2 (51:55):
Yeah, oh shit, I thought it was all right.

Speaker 1 (51:59):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, you know her through me.

Speaker 2 (52:01):
Oh, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, so yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (52:03):
This was back in the 0201 college.

Speaker 2 (52:05):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (52:06):
Was it?
Was it a college campus?
Campus Crossings campus, campuscrosses, yeah, so those were
back in those days, we hadreally good times there, yeah,
yeah, really good times uh.
But yeah, yeah, I tried to dothat one mile homeboy like she,
she going, yeah, and then, uh,he was just doing too much.
We talked about it.
We talked about it, uh,actually recently, and I was

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like you know from myunderstanding how she said it
was like he was doing a lot.

Speaker 2 (52:31):
Oh damn, yeah, that sucks like too quick you're like
you're too my understanding howshe said it was like he was
doing a lot.
Oh damn, yeah, that sucks liketoo quick.

Speaker 1 (52:34):
You're like you're too quick, he's like no,
actually I spent time.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, and then I,you know, I tried to say, okay,
that's not how she portrayed it,damn, because she was like, you
know, like before modernfeminism.
She was kind of that to be likeshe was cool, um, but going at
the same time so it was likeshe's a friend but she's willing

(52:57):
to be down for whatever.
Yeah, yeah, because she she'sless emotionally attached to
things and you know if, if thevibe is right, she'll she'll be
down for it yeah, yeah, so it'snot like less emotionally
attached, so it's all adding up.

Speaker 2 (53:11):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, so it's not like less emotionally
attached, so it's all adding up.

Speaker 1 (53:13):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So it's not like you would likecorner, like she's a hoe yeah
at the end of the day, she is acool human being, but she's down
for the vibes so yeahsophisticated?
Yeah, definitely not that ohdamn.

Speaker 2 (53:29):
I was trying to give her a couple pointers.

Speaker 1 (53:31):
Yeah, but it was bottom line.
It was like he was doing toomuch kind of like too quickly.

Speaker 2 (53:37):
How would you feel if like has that ever happened to
you to where, like, you werewith a girl or whatever, and
then later on you found out shesaid something behind your back,
like about you.
Like this nigga's lame.

Speaker 1 (53:49):
I'm sure.

Speaker 2 (53:50):
As in, like you heard about it, I wouldn't say this.

Speaker 1 (53:56):
This guy's lame not not, I just threw something out
there, but yeah, yeah, somethinglike that was a critique about
me yeah, yeah, yeah, I think forreal, I don't think I've yeah,
like not nothing, I don't know,maybe I don't know yeah, for
sure.
I mean it's not gonna be like,hey, she said this thing, it was
, I think it was.
You're gonna say it.
You're gonna say it to me forreal like yeah, for the most

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part I'm trying to think well,that's not true.
I was like, for the most part,anytime I've like kind of dated,
I have a relationshipafterwards, but that's not
actually true.
But but sometimes, yeah, youhear a critique or whatever.
Like that's fair criticism yeahyeah, fine yeah, yeah yeah, I
do do that thing yeah, yeah,yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (54:41):
So that's too bad.
I'm pretty sure they do that,but I haven't heard anything
like.
Come back to me yeah.

Speaker 1 (54:46):
I mean it kind of is what is if you, if yeah, and
that's kind of sometimes itcenters I live by.
It's like hey, I did the thing,so I got to kind of own it yeah
and it sucks that it's in theforefront, but it's the truth.
So it kind of is what it is.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it mightsting a little bit, but that's
the truth and I did.

(55:06):
I did something that they thatwas funny or slightly
embarrassing, so you gotta kindof live with it and then at the
end of the day I got a brotherwho is doesn't let you live down
moments, yeah, and my sister'sgood for that too.
So they, they always bring upthe the they're embarrassing
thing oh yeah, yeah, so it'slike, but I was 10 years old and

(55:29):
so those, so I have to livewith that in the worst way.
So when you say a thing that'skind of like halfway true, it's
like, why would I try to defendthe thing?
When it's kind of true, I getwhat you're saying.
So now you got to really takeit with a smile.

Speaker 2 (55:44):
Yeah, I don't know.
Well, again, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (55:47):
I'm pretty sure every girl does that.
But like I just haven't Wellmost I'm pretty sure most, most,
most people do you feel likeyou're too cool for things.
Too cool for things?
What do you mean?

Speaker 2 (55:57):
yeah, like, like I think I did at one point.

Speaker 1 (56:00):
Yeah, like I'm too cool, like too cool to um, like
be embarrassed type of thing.

Speaker 2 (56:20):
Uh no, I used to used to when, um, I think I told you
like I, I put like everythingon me being light-skinned at one
point like this is myconfidence, my look, I cared
about people thought like how amI?
It could be a party and I'mjust standing on the wall, I'm
like how can I stand on thiswall?
The coolest that I can, like,you know, and eventually this is
like being yourself.

(56:40):
It's just like the, the bestfucking thing ever and then you
know, like dating as well, thatkind of brought me closer to
like life is just life breath.
Like you know, I've been withwomen who are just super clumsy,
so so pretty, but like one ofthe clumsiest people you would
ever meet and they just did notgive a.
And then, like you know, justjust meeting certain people like

(57:01):
that took me out of that, thatlike trying to be too cool type
thing.
So yeah, otherwise I wouldn'tbe dancing on tick tock with my
daughter you know what?

Speaker 1 (57:11):
I'm saying like not caring if I'm hitting this move
right, yeah, but at the sametime did that feel like that
brings you to hoes too?

Speaker 2 (57:18):
Just.

Speaker 1 (57:21):
Just no.

Speaker 2 (57:24):
No, no, okay, I love my daughter.
You know, two things can betrue at once yeah, yeah, yeah.
Of course Two things can betrue at once.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't thinkit.
You know, I'm going to just sayno, oh God.

(57:45):
I'm going to say no, yeah, yeah, yeah, yep, but it's good vibes
.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, good vibes.

Speaker 1 (57:52):
I say no, yeah yeah, but um, it's good vibes, yeah.
Yeah, I think it.
It pairs well.
That's something that's funwith your daughter and she loves
to do that too, but it's alsopeople.
I mean, it shows love like thatshows a fam, a family man yeah
so it pair, if those both ofthose things pair as well with
social media in general so Ithink, it's.
It's good for both worlds.

(58:12):
It's a win-win, I think yeah,no, for sure.

Speaker 2 (58:16):
Even even every time before I post kaya, I always ask
myself, like, who is this for?

Speaker 1 (58:22):
you know, with a lot of the posts that I that I do,
you know.

Speaker 2 (58:26):
Like, yeah, do I just just genuinely love this video,
or am I trying to get someviews on a Saturday or some shit
?
You know what I'm saying and Inever go that route.
I'm very intentional with that,with her.

Speaker 1 (58:41):
Yeah, and I think it also goes back to what we talked
on a previous podcast aboutpromoting positivity.
We ask hey, can you be arighteous billionaire?
You will naturally see it.
You don't really see it onsocial media.
I think it's just.
It's always good, regardless ofthe bash.
You're just doing this forsocial media.
I'm promoting positivity, soyou can look at it however you

(59:03):
want to, with a lens, but out ofall the negative we see all the
realities.
You know, salacious stuff, allthis drama-filled headlines that
I'm, at the end of the day,promoting positive.
Would you rather do that as asee that amongst black people,
black family, black unity, oryou know, what I mean.

Speaker 2 (59:21):
For sure.

Speaker 1 (59:22):
In an era where we all grew up with well, not we
all, but a lot of us grew upwithout the fathers in the
household and you see somebodysay that's a win, yeah.
So if you want to nitpick andsay like, even did you see Money
?
Long critique, the LifeJennings video must be nice yeah

(59:46):
, yeah, yeah.
She was pretty much saying likeyou know, like that was like
she grown up and realized thatwas kind of like a haters anthem
.
You're like must be nice butreally it was just like he was
saying that's ultimately what hewanted oh, yeah, yeah, yeah,
it's not like yeah, yeah.
So it's like I'm saying that tosay it's like more of a nitpick

(01:00:06):
thing.
It's like, hey, yeah, this youcan say, hey, this is just about
views or whatever, right,honestly, it's promoting, um,
something that everybody shouldtry to have and that's a
relationship with their daughter, the child, uh, when their
father.
So I'm here for it yeah, no,that's true that.

Speaker 2 (01:00:25):
I definitely, I definitely.
Uh, keep that in mind everytime before I click upload with
her.
It's positivity, yeah yeah, she, yeah, like I'm uh, if she had
an instagram she would blow upoh, okay yeah, like I think
about that all the time too, butI mean literally like she

(01:00:46):
doesn't even.
She doesn't even know how thisstuff works, but she knows how
it works.
Like if I give her my phone andshe said I just want to take a
video of me flipping on like onthe bed, she starts it off, just
like this.
Hey guys, uh, today I'mflipping and I'm and I'm just
like yo, if you had a platform,it'd be over with.
It'd be over with that.

Speaker 1 (01:01:06):
That scares me, though, but she got a lot of you
built into her but she got alot of you built into her.

Speaker 2 (01:01:16):
I see that I don't.
Yeah, it's there, like, yeah,it's definitely there.
So, yeah, that kind of messeswith me a little bit, because
she's so talented and you know,like big, big, big, big stars,
they usually start off smallthey usually start off small,
then they get in there and then,you know, then it builds their
whole career from there and Ican kind of see, like if she
wanted to, like it could do that.

Speaker 1 (01:01:35):
But I'm also scared because she's a child you know,
I would have to be everywherewith her, like literally, like
no, that should.
Just scares me a little bit, Iguess.
I guess my last question to youis how does it, do you think
that having a blended householdcould work for you and meaning
that, say, if you had custody ofyour, your daughter, and then

(01:01:59):
they had a child as well, comingtogether, do you think that
would?

Speaker 2 (01:02:02):
be as in like when she comes over the other child
comes over.

Speaker 1 (01:02:06):
Well, so you?
You marry a woman that has achild and then you bring your
daughter into that.
Oh is that is that somethingyou could do without, or you
wouldn't mind living in thatthat line.

Speaker 2 (01:02:18):
Uh, I would love for that to to.
You know that's the, the, thevibe.
Yeah, I would love for that to.
I don't see.

Speaker 1 (01:02:26):
Well, I guess, I guess, does the thought of that
puts you away from it, like, nah, I'm not going to.

Speaker 2 (01:02:31):
I mean, it is what it is at this point.

Speaker 1 (01:02:33):
Okay, you know, like I, I'm saying if the other lady
had a child, mm-hmm, yeah, I'msaying the thought of her coming
into your domain with yourchild.
I was like, nah, the thought ofthat doesn't sound right.

Speaker 2 (01:02:48):
Or like that's fine.
I haven't gotten to that pointyet, but I'm not opposed to that
at all.
I feel like that would beextremely selfish of me to kind
of like have that concreteboundary, especially if I really
like a woman you know like, andI could see, like my life with

(01:03:08):
this girl and all that you know,that's an, an adjustment, it's
a very like, mature thing to do.
So, uh, if anything, I wouldwant to be with somebody that
that would be the result of, youknow her having a kid, because
otherwise we just wouldn't, wewould stop the relationship at a

(01:03:29):
certain point versusprogressing to that.
Yeah, that's a different.
I've seen it happen.
I've seen it happen before, soyou know, so I'm going to give
you a scenario.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:03:44):
So you've been dating this girl for four months.
She has a child, and then fourmonths y'all intense love.

Speaker 2 (01:03:51):
You think?

Speaker 1 (01:03:52):
about proposing.

Speaker 2 (01:03:54):
Hell.
No, I ain't thinking about noproposing no four months.

Speaker 1 (01:03:57):
This is a scenario, okay, all right, all right, all
right, add eight months to it,all right.
And then you realize and fourmonths sounds better, because it
sounds impossible that thisscenario will happen in eight
months.
But four months, four months.
You're at least thinking aboutit.
It's not like you're about todo it.

Speaker 2 (01:04:14):
Yeah, she's too perfect.

Speaker 1 (01:04:16):
Everything's great, founds out she has a crazy baby
daddy.
Yeah, is that a deal breaker?
She's everything you want in awoman.

Speaker 2 (01:04:30):
It's going to do something.
It's definitely going to dobecause then because now your
stress is my stress, yeah, so itwould it would do something.
I don't like.
I don't like, yeah, I wouldprobably break up with a girl
over there.
Yeah, because, like, if you're,if your mom is childish, or if

(01:04:53):
your cousin, this girl, justchild, whatever, just just like
if we have a martin and pamrelationship you know, I'm
saying we're always roastingeach other.
Just get the fuck out my foot,brian, trying to talk, I could
deal with that.
However, a man and like hecrazy.
And then now, if I love you,there's some form of protection

(01:05:14):
that I have to be involved with.
And now what?
Like?
men are crazy you know, and wetalking about a crazy man, like
anything can happen and I ain'tputting myself in that type of
shit.
So I had to check that up tothe game.

Speaker 1 (01:05:31):
Could you do it?
No, yeah, yeah, it's not worthone, it's different.
You know, it's not just mysafety involved, it's the people
that you care for safetyinvolved.
It's like what links is thisperson wanting to go to?
You know what I mean?
He, he's he.
I don't know his moral code oranything.

Speaker 2 (01:05:51):
Right, yeah, yeah, so he could step to my grandma's
house, yeah yeah, yeah, oh God,or whatever, some niggas be
ready to blast off of anargument.

Speaker 1 (01:05:59):
Your child.
Yeah, exactly, yeah.
So I got to not only worryabout my safety.
I got to worry about the safetyof the people closest to me
that I tend to.

Speaker 2 (01:06:07):
Mm-hmm.

Speaker 1 (01:06:08):
Yeah, of course not.
It's never worth that.
Yeah, no, I agree with that.

Speaker 2 (01:06:12):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:06:14):
Because I got to be selfish on my side and say, hey,
I'm willing to put my family atrisk because I love this
individual, absolutely not.

Speaker 2 (01:06:24):
Hell, no, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:06:25):
And I love myself too , yeah yeah, it's like yeah,
there's.
No, I don't.
At least, I've neverexperienced a bond like that in
the world that puts my life andmy family's life in danger
because I'm dating or I lovesomebody.
That would be selfish on mypart and that would be a selfish
request of you to ask me to bestanding here by you when that
was your decision to make withthis man in the first place

(01:06:45):
right sucks for her definitelysucks for her.

Speaker 2 (01:06:49):
I don't know who she gonna get with.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:06:51):
Well, you gotta be another crazy nigga, you gotta
have that equal oppositereaction.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:06:58):
Then they cancel each other out oh god, yeah, yeah,
yeah, the best friends, yeah,yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:07:04):
Both them niggas crazy yeah, yeah, and then at
the end of the day, I'm notwilling to not only go to jail
for, but go to trial for.
You know, as like yeah, yeah,you know what I mean.
Like I should I gotta gothrough the whole legal process
on pleading my innocence letalone.

Speaker 2 (01:07:21):
I don't even like arguing with men yeah, I don't
remember the last time I arguedwith a man like for what?
Like no, it's too much.
That can happen, bro.

Speaker 1 (01:07:33):
People are too crazy and people are very crazy, and I
just said crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:07:37):
It's too easy to just .

Speaker 1 (01:07:38):
Yeah, 100%.
Too easy yeah.
And people be doing it for less.

Speaker 2 (01:07:44):
I just saw a video the other day of this dude in
his car and he was just talkingin the camera and then somebody
came up basically saying man,give me your chain.
The man said no, dead.

Speaker 1 (01:07:56):
Yeah, that's insane.

Speaker 2 (01:07:57):
Dead.
I'm like bruh, you can't evensay no, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:08:02):
How about you give me , let me see the gun before you
shoot me?

Speaker 2 (01:08:06):
At this point I just automatically assume yeah, I got
you, I ain't even trying toyeah my chain ain't worth the
damage.
Now let's make it just likegive me the money.

Speaker 1 (01:08:13):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Hmm, no, I just didn't want toshow you the real shit.
Bow Over with.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's just too easy to killsomebody.
I totally agree, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:08:24):
Yeah, so no I think we did it.

Speaker 1 (01:08:28):
Yeah, we're good, for sure, for sure.
All right.
Well, this is Two for theCulture.
I'm Justin Devante, steven Ray.
Yes, sir, we'll be back.

Speaker 2 (01:08:37):
All right.