June 26, 2025 • 46 mins
We reflect on our day of bar hopping through Nashville and dive into deep relationship discussions about friendship after breakups and the correlation between love and pain.
• Adventures through four Nashville bars including Dino's, Mother's Ruin, Oldies, and Pins Mechanical
• Photo booth memories and discovering new spots in the city
• Whether exes can truly become best friends after a relationship ends
• Boundaries needed when maintaining friendships with former partners
• The "equal love, equal pain theory" – how the intensity of love often matches the intensity of heartbreak
• How self-worth changes relationship dynamics and the willingness to accept certain behaviors
• Personal growth through relationship challenges and becoming more guarded after heartbreak
• Surprising global divorce statistics – with Maldives, Kazakhstan and Russia having higher rates than the US
Check out our Instagram for photo booth pictures from our bar crawl and let us know your thoughts on exes being friends!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
and we are back with another episode of two for
culture.
Uh, I'm justin devante, I'mstephen ray and, yes, sir, we
are back.
How you feeling?
I feel good.
I feel really good.
I feel good too.
We had a pretty good timeyesterday just getting out a
little bit, yeah bro, that wastoo fun.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Like I woke up today I was like I'm happy man.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
Yeah, really yeah no, it was actually cool.
Yeah, uh, which picture?
Because you took a lot ofdifferent phone booths that each
we went bar hopping it say, Iknow I'm probably gonna skip it,
so let's just talk about whatwe did, right.
But yeah, so we just, you know,it was a day to where we both
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have free, because I didn't haveto work on Monday.
So we went out.
Where do we start at?
We started at um dino's.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
That was like the burger joint.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
You had the hot chicken right yeah, yeah, you
know they people were worriedabout the burgers.
It was cool, it was okay.
You know, the fries were reallygood with the you had a burger
sauce on top.
Yeah, yeah you had the hotchicken and it was a hot chicken
, too hot for you it.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
It wasn't too hot but like I don't know the initial
taste hit in my mouth, itdefinitely like kind of cleared
my sinuses okay, and that I.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
That was mild all right, they had a spicy.
I knew I wasn't gonna hit thespice.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Oh wow, so if that was fucking mild, yeah, oh, my
god yeah, yeah why even do thatto yourself?
Speaker 1 (01:21):
yeah, so we had it was cool, so we went to Dino's.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Then we went to mother's ruin, yeah yeah, and
that was cool got like a coupledrinks.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
And then that's when we I went to the second floor
and we had the phone booth yeah,and then you like the photo
booth, yeah exactly photo booth.
My fault, I'm gonna start doingthat shit everywhere.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
No, that was actually cool.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Yeah, yeah, yeah posted on Instagram and then I
was fault.
I'm going to start doing thatshit everywhere.
No, that was actually cool,yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
So you had posted it on Instagram, and then I was
like, well, I'm about to do one.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So then I did one.
It was cool.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
But they do come quick because you pay before, so
it's not like you redo it orsee what you done.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
Right.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
And redo another.
One picture is always like yeah, it's too quick, and then you
take three pictures and thatthere when I finally noticed to
stare at that photo thing andnot like myself, oh yeah, so
yeah, that's cool.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Then we went to oldies that was a midtown, oh
die so it's a new bar we got.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Which bar was there before?
I think was maybe like rebar orsomething, and so that's a new
bar and it's a new bar.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
I forgot which bar was there before.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
I think it was maybe like Rebar or something, and so
that's a new bar.
They made it way bigger.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
That's what the old couple was next to us oh, okay,
yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So we went to four places.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Damn, yeah, that last one.
Where was that?
Speaker 1 (02:39):
That was Penn's Mechanical.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
That's the spot.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you was serving me in the little
basketball thing.
Yeah, yeah yeah, you call itBeer Pong.
It's the big version of BeerPong.
Yeah, it's what it was.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Okay, yeah, I fucked with that place.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Yeah, yeah, no, penn's Mechanical is cool, but
it was inevitably going to bethe last place because I was
like I might as well drain mybattery around town and then go
to last place to charge the car.
So I always knew well, we mayhave.
Depending how things started,we was probably gonna start at
ml rose and I would charge thecar there, so we would never
went to pins but, but I was likelet me make this the last trip
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yeah, yeah, yeah, it'll be cool,yeah, yeah and you, we could
have did a lot more.
It had, you know we yeah, no,that was.
That was cool the whole day no,so yeah, yeah, so overall
success.
You know, I was definitelyfeeling like I wish I had the
hookah thing back at the house,oh yeah yeah, that would have
been definitely chilling, Idefinitely didn't know, yeah.
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So I just kind of, you know,chilled out for a little bit
before I started driving Uber,and then you just kind of
relaxed for the rest of the day.
Yeah, I got you, I got you.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
All right, that was dope, that was dope.
I got to go back to that place.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Penn's McKenna, penn's Mechanical, penn's
Mechanical, that place, pens.
Mckenna pens mechanical, pinsmechanical yeah, yeah, yeah, go
there, go there.
Yeah, yeah, no, well, I thinkthey may have another place in
another place.
You know, that's just not theonly place you can uh go to a
bar.
I think they have like thisnationwide thing, I think, oh
really I think uh, um, since I'm, I'm going back the only thing
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they don't serve food.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
They don't.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Yeah, I know that's what they.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
They don't even look right, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
They don't even sound right.
Exactly Like I think they mayhave like Hot Pockets or
something crazy like that.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
That's kind of dope though.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
What?
Because that's why they havethe food truck outside too, oh
yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
That's kind of makes sense a little bit, not really.
All you can do is drink, soyou're going to have to
basically just spend money andyou're not going to sober up.
Does that make?
Speaker 1 (04:54):
sense.
I think you can make money agrip off food, though, and they
have so many tables, yeah, yeah.
And then they have bowling andpeople can eat while they bowl.
Right can eat water boy.
It just makes so much sense tohave food.
Yeah, you definitely losing outon money because more people
can linger on.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
They eat and drink at the same time it makes more
sense to do that I still kind oflike that you know that now you
have to like make whatever yourday is a day like, so we get
food here and then we go herelike if it's like a date yeah, I
mean, I get it's however youwant to look at it.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
But yeah, it would make more sense for them to have
food there.
Yeah, it threw me off when yousaid it.
Absolutely yeah, for sure, um,but no, it was.
I had a really good time.
So I'm glad you know the kindof stars aligned for us to even
have a day to kind of reallyeven enjoy so that was super
dope.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
We can really get if you have nothing to add?
Speaker 1 (05:55):
Is there something that's pressing on your mind?
Pressing, yeah, what do youmean?
Just anything.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Anything yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
No oh.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
I got you nothing I think of yes for sure.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
Yeah, but there's something that uh found
interesting, just, you know,seeing people's relationships
uh-huh, um, and like even my momand dad I don't I wouldn't call
them good friends, but but theyhave a good relationship to
talk and chill or not chill,just like they can have that.
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They haven't had that in yearsand they really don't talk to
each other.
But it just reminds me of thegood.
Usually, if you're in along-term relationship and it
ends, there's always a friction.
That's there and it justsparked a question, even though
my mom and dad don't have thisrelationship because they don't
talk Not that they have like anyanimosity, but could you be in
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a relationship be?
Speaker 2 (06:59):
in a long term relationship with somebody, then
be best friends with them.
Afterwards.
Best friends Mm, hmm, I'm notsure best friends, but I could
be like on the phone, just likekind of cordial, like hey, how
are you?
You know which has happened.
Yeah, I can.
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I know what you're talkingabout, though.
I mean, I don't know if it'slike it could be that close.
Because it sounds like they'renot that close.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
I mean no, but it could be that and it wouldn't
feel weird.
You know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Oh, uh-huh, yeah, but there's some people that I've
seen that are like close friends, and maybe it's because they
were married before and thenthey their best friends and
maybe there's like some tv showyeah I did hear about, maybe in
the past month, that I wasscrolling and there was a guy
and he was married to his wifefor like I don't know 10 I don't
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know the time frame, but a longtime and they broke up and now
she's still.
Now she's still, she's still tothis day like, basically,
controls like his money, likehis finances okay yeah, so I
think, he's not married.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
He's not married yet.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Okay, no, I'm saying married again, because that
would be kind of weird yeah,that would be very strange, that
was my only thing too, becauseI feel like that alone, like
being in another relationship,it's automatically going to fuck
that up.
Well, I think I just don't seewomen just being okay.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
With another person.
Y'all are one, so you'reeffectively controlling our
money.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Oh my God, I didn't even think about that.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
How could somebody be willing to trust another
individual that they was yeah,no, no, I wouldn't be that
trusting and I that'd be astretch to ask for that, yeah,
from another person, let alonewoman or man you know what I
mean.
I couldn't yeah, of course.
Like hey, my ex-husbandcontrols my finances.
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Uh-huh, you be like what yeah,you're gonna have to convince me
you really gonna have to sellme on this why this makes sense
mm-hmm.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Yeah, yeah, I was talking to somebody the other
day and she was cooking onSunday for her family and then
she said, yeah, you know mydad's coming and I don't know
what my mom's doing.
And then I was like, wouldn'tthey just ride together?
She was like, oh no, they'redivorced, they're not together.
I was like, oh, so they hangout and stuff.
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I mean sometimes I mean I don'tthink that if something wasn't
bad that you just have to likenever see this person again.
And she just said it in a waywhere it was like healthy like
it wasn't like any animosity.
I know you got a wife, um, yougot a husband, whatever.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Like y'all have separate lives, but the friend
thing that I was saying, or thatyou were saying yeah, well, I
guess is there anybody that youdated that you could see
yourself being best friends with.
See when you throw the best onthere, yeah, just like, well,
okay, you don't have to be onthe best friends, yeah, but it
can be somebody you are friendswith yeah that you can talk.
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You'll call on and talk to themand get a relationship advice
from and yeah, but, you don'tgot to be like.
The best is like hey, you knowyou have to be here.
You know because, becauseyou're supporting me and I
expect you to be there, you know.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
I mean, you know I don't be like that.
Um, yeah, I can see that, I cankind of see that.
Um, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I Ididn't think that at first, but
like after, like the dustsettles from any relationship
really, and then you just kindof see, like where y'all at, I
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have um somebody I possiblycould be like friends, you know,
yeah, I mean I, I think,because I just feel like as soon
as you throw in a new situation, that's your day, right?
Speaker 1 (11:15):
yeah, right, and that's understandably so.
Like you already had a, youalready had a certain dynamic
with each other, yeah, and thennow a person's coming on that's
uncomfortable for thatindividual.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Right.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
So I would, if I'm say I'm that best friend for a
girl that I did date, I couldsee how I should be removed from
what y'all got going.
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
Yeah, could you do it ?
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Could I be friends with somebody I was could you
date a girl and she's bestfriends with her, I mean we're
best friends with daddy.
Well, I mean like like she callshim every time like you had a
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bad day.
I just need to talk to somebodyI mean, I guess, yeah, I guess
that's okay.
It's just when y'all like ify'all are talking about y'all
can grab lunch together, I thinkthat's that's fine.
But in terms of, hey, y'all arereally hanging out at night,
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that's kind of where my drawline is Just brunch time.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Huh, they can just hang out at brunch hours.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
As long as y'all are not going to each other's houses
and it's not dinner Like brunch, and having lunch with somebody
, that should have a goodrelationship definitely.
If it came before me and that'swhat y'all are doing, that's
fine.
I think I can live with that.
And you said her baby daddy.
I mean, you're gonna have tohave a relationship with them
anyway and there's a lot thatyou need to discuss and talk
about parent wise.
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Of course, that can bedefinitely done over the phone,
but I can live with that yeah, Imean I mean, and he's uh, and
then I would assess, hopefullythat he's a good dude.
Obviously, if you're hangingwith him, I would trust your
judgment that you hang withsomebody that's cool.
So if I met him, like he's acool dude, yeah, yeah, yeah, I
totally get why you would wantto hang with him.
Now, if he's like some hood-assnigga, I don't even get it.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
You know what I?
Speaker 1 (13:15):
mean yeah, I don't see it.
I don't like him, he don't likeme.
Hold the other thing huh I'mjust giving this situation oh,
yeah, no I gotta make sense.
I'm hood.
Niggas can be personable.
You know what I mean, but Idon't associate with that, you
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know?
Speaker 2 (13:36):
yeah, yeah yeah, I don't know, man.
I couldn't imagine being with.
I'm trying to put myself intothis and then my girl is on the
phone with her baby daddytalking about I don't care, I
don't know yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
I mean in a person who's friends with like, of
course there's going to be a lotof different things, that would
be kind of draw the line yeah,going to be a lot of different
things.
That would be kind of draw theline.
Yeah, but that person is coming, is like hey, if he's giving
her advice, that is also likekind of checking her in a way.
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It's like you know you do betripping when you do this thing
and you need to work on that andif you think you're going to
keep him, because I think thatsometimes manly advice is
important- important too.
Yeah, yeah, and you're going tosomebody who knows you well,
then as long as that love it'sjust love, you know what I mean.
It's not like friendly love,then it's not none more.
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Then I'm okay with that in acertain way.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
You know what I mean just because I know I'm living
in the one time to me.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
Yeah, I think this is like a fairytale world we're
living in.
Yeah, yeah, we're just assumingthat she's not going to draw
any feelings you know, I mean, Ithink this is a really fancy
world to say I'm saying.
That's why you got to sell iton me yeah, I had just a quick
story.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
I was, I was dating this girl and she broke up with
me for like a random reason,because we got back together
like the next day or some shit.
So she just like crashed out,basically, and just broke up
with me.
And then, yeah, later I foundout, in the 24, 24 hour period
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of us breaking up, she invitedher ex over to her house to talk
about what you just said about,like what's wrong with me?
Like you know, I really likehim.
I literally talking about methe whole time.
And then she said that he leftmad and I'm like what did you
think was going to happen?
He left mad because I'm likewhat did you think was gonna
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happen?
He left mad cuz she invited himover oh.
I mean 2 am yeah and yeah, andthey had that conversation.
So there are people out therethat will do that just like.
Hey, like what's wrong with me?
Like what's what am I doingwrong?
What could I do better?
Yeah and yeah, I don't trustniggas.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
I mean what did?
He wasn't a friend of hers.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
I think maybe she was looking for that but see,
that's not saying yeah.
I'm just saying like thatreminded me of how else that
could go.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Yeah See, I just prayed that my girlfriend has
more self-awareness than that.
So, you invite somebody at 2 amand you didn't you know.
I mean, at bare minimum, letthem know what's happening,
right?
Yeah, that's something you havea phone conversation with, at
minimum, and if you need to getit out, then I can maybe
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somewhat understand a call.
So I don't fault her for tryingto get an understanding of what
she's doing wrong.
I think, yeah, but it was theperson that you didn't really
communicate well with him so hecould know what's happening no,
she told like I said niggas,just gonna be niggas I mean, if
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I get invited over and you wantto talk about love all right,
I'm pulling, so why is he madthen?
Speaker 2 (17:16):
probably because he ain't getting her.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
No, so who?
You mad at yourself, she toldyou while you're coming in.
If, if, if somebody says hey, Ineed help moving.
Yeah, you're like bro you.
If somebody says hey, I needhelp moving, yeah, you know,
like bro, you didn't throw me nopussy, though he's like.
I told you I need help moving,you know?
Yeah, that's on you to be madat yourself?
Speaker 2 (17:36):
Yeah, no, for sure For sure, I was just, I was just
it just reminded me of that onemoment and I was just like bro,
but what the fuck?
Speaker 1 (17:46):
was that.
But yeah, so.
But I think that that actuallyis a good step in the right
direction if, when she did that,at least at that moment you
know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (17:55):
I guess she kept tripping after that.
I said at that moment yeah,yeah, yes so she didn't.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
She tried so, but not only that.
He ain't gonna give good advicebecause he ain't trying to.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, yeah, I think you shoulddo this next time he's trying to
have sex, so he's probablygoing to tell you you did
everything right oh, yeah, yeahyeah, so he's giving bad advice
because he's not coming with theright intentions oh god, yeah,
yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
His whole intention is like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
So he's like whatever allows me the easiest access so
I'm gonna give you you know I'mgonna be a yes man in this
situation yeah so that that yeah, but yeah, I, I do commend if
she's willing to say hey, okay,I've recognized and this is an
issue, and this you're not this.
You're the second person thatreacted in this way.
Maybe it's in me, so let me goback to the original source I
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can see where she was comingfrom, and that was that's.
I give her, at least at themoment, to be props now who she
should.
She should have known who hewas.
But I mean, whatever happenedat that moment I can see.
Uh, I, I don't follow her.
I guess it's at the end of theday I had a question too.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
Yeah, relationships, do you think, and this was the
same, it's with the same girlthat.
I had, um, that I thought aboutthis um, or or one of the many
uh relationships that I was inthat I thought about do you feel
like?
Do you feel like, when you'rewith someone, the intensity of
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love, the level of love that ispoured into the relationship?
Do you think that one daythat's gonna match the intensity
of pain in the relationship?
because I thought about it withthat girl and I was talking to
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you about it one day and I wassaying how quickly we got
together, how fast we moved toget together, was exactly how
fast that shit ended yeah and Ithought about that too in
another relationship of mine oflike how long the long term
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relationship that I had likewith her, she like, and how long
that was and how much love waspoured into it and all that.
And I was fucked at the end ofthat, like couldn't even breath.
So then I thought about, like Iwonder if the amount of love
that you put into something oneday that I don't know that's a
pessimistic way of looking at it, but I wonder if that's true,
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okay.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
so, because you said a little, a lot, okay, okay.
So give me the question onemore time.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
Do you think that the amount of love that you pour
into a relationship, like thelevel of it do you think in that
same relationship, one day painis going to match that same
intensity of?
Speaker 1 (20:56):
love.
I think that it can definitely.
It definitely can for sure,yeah, I mean like does, is it,
is it?
Speaker 2 (21:02):
is it a two-in-one package in everything, every
relationship?
I mean think about all yourrelationships and like how much
you love just this and then likethe end of it yeah, I think it
was.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
I think the more you love them yeah, I think it's.
Yeah, I think there's an equalopposite reaction level to it.
A little yeah and um yeah,because if you love so much and
then you're separating from theperson you love, then that's
going to equal that pain.
I think, yeah, because you,you're mad that you gotta let
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that person go, that that person, but you know, broke your heart
, you know, yeah, so this.
So I think that all that comeswith each other.
Hopefully it doesn't get tothat point and y'all, you know
y'all get married and furtherthe relationship.
But if it breaks up, it's notgoing to be like an oh well
feeling, not if you truly lovethat person you want to see
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yourself with, yeah, but alsoyou can also have that love.
Then it's also like and I knowI didn't follow this, but I know
that it can exist.
So what I was about to this?
But I know that it can exist.
So what I was about to say, orwhat I am saying, is, when you
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love somebody, there is like mylast one I've only been to a
relationship the one I'm in nowand the last one, so the one
previous to it it was like, allright, I can see why this will
not work out.
Yeah, yeah, I was like we'rejust too different.
There's a lot of things in yourlife that you have strife in um
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, but I ignored them.
So what and what?
I'm saying?
That, too, there is theopposite side of to where I
could have been like phased thatout over over time and be like
all right, yeah, I need to comeup with an exit plan because
this ain't going to work.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, yeah.
And then that's like let meease my heart.
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I'm not saying this ain't mebecause I don't think I really
have that emotional control tothat degree, at least in my, in
my mind.
Now there is a more controlthat I maybe not let you see.
Yeah, yeah, like he looksunfazed by this, but actually
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I'm, but I'll deal that in mymind.
Yeah, back then I was very muchled with my sleeve, for sure,
but yeah, yeah, so but I thinkthat if you truly love a person,
that there's not that pain isgoing to equal that love that
you have for her.
And then we, for me, I getguarded and I get kind of
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hardened into it.
So it's harder for you to getmore accepting of that love yeah
, into it.
So it's harder for you to getmore accepting of that love yeah
, yeah, and because I may treatyou as equal as that last
relationship, but because that'sfairness, I don't want to take
that away from anybody but it'smore accepting and be more um,
uh, controlling of how your most, how how you act, makes me
(24:15):
react.
Am I making sense?
Speaker 2 (24:17):
Yeah, okay, you're giving yourself more.
So the power versus love itself, exactly.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
That's beautiful.
That's exactly what I wastrying to say in all that.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
Yeah, To where it's like all right.
I still may be heartbroken to adegree, but I'm not going to be
overreactive.
I understand how this goes.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
Yeah, yeah all right, yeah, that scares me a little
bit sometimes.
I mean, I haven't been well, Iguess, like today now, uh,
myself now today it kind ofscares me a little bit, like if
I start liking a girl and thenlike when the love starts
happening liking a girl and then, like, when the love shit
(24:59):
starts happening, I I do, well,it hasn't happened yet, but uh,
when I, when I look forward likein the future and shit, um,
yeah, it does kind of like it'slike a small little thing in my
head, just like, damn, like themore that I like this person,
like something.
I mean, even if you're marriedwhatever, even if, even if you,
you stay with this person untillike death, I feel like that
(25:21):
love something's gonna happen towhere, like, it's gonna be the
same intense, uh, the sameintensity of how it is is to add
to my point, is I over the lastit's 2025.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
So over the last two years I hold myself to a higher
regard than I ever have before,like I was, and not to say I
don't have insecurities now, butI had a lot more than have
insecurities now, but I had alot more than yeah to where that
?
You know, I felt that, eventhough I now looking at, I
(26:02):
brought a ton, a lot to thetable, but I, I was the cat, you
know, she was a catch more thanI was.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, so, yeah, sothat, so the leverage was felt,
I felt like in my mind, eventhough uh everybody else may
have seen different in my mindthat I was definitely she was
already catching me and she hadmore of that leverage.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
I get that.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
And so now I feel more as like that does change
things actually.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
I do remember feeling that before.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
Damn.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
Yeah, it changed the shit.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
Because now I'll be like I know absolutely I'm not
for everybody and so I alwaysstate that I want to be clear on
that.
But also I know I see, now thatI got experience, I see how
other people date too, and I waslike, hey, there's a lot of
things I don't have, but there'sa lot of things I don't have,
but there's a lot of things I dohave and you ain't just gonna
(26:59):
get me everywhere.
You know, yeah, it's, I'm notthat easy to replace for real oh
, yeah, yeah yeah, so you can doit if you want, but I know how
many people will be happy withbeing a partner who have the
same attributes as me that's,that's fact so what about you?
(27:19):
Uh, in terms of the, uh, the,the love to pain, equalness of
it do you?
Feel that same way, or do youfeel?
Speaker 2 (27:28):
I feel like it might be a two-in-one thing, mm-hmm,
mm-hmm.
Yeah, I don't know.
I'm trying to think of everyrelationship that I've been in
and the ones where it was likereal love there.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
It was, the more it like they.
I'm the same near amount ofpain.
Yeah, yeah, somewhere in thereyeah, how?
Speaker 1 (28:02):
what's your perspective on it?
I feel like you're not astraumatized as I am or your past
relationship like like, oh,like never gonna date anybody
with no, no, I don't thinkthat's what I I do, but I feel
(28:22):
like I'm hardened to a certaindegree.
You know, I feel like you're,you're very, you know, and I'm,
I'm cautious, uh-huh, yeah, yeah, um, but I feel like you don't
have that same PTSD in that way.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
I don't know.
I just feel like I really don'tknow how to answer that Ask me,
okay.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
Well, okay, I'll be more specific and not compare us
to.
Is that?
What I'm saying?
Is I feel like you should bemore hard in giving your past
relationships.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
Yeah, then is, I feel like you should be more hard in
giving your past relationshipsyeah yeah, then what I feel,
like you are um, I think, Ithink now it's a little
different.
Um, just because of literallylike my last relationship, like
that just taught me a lot.
I was just thrown off by likehow well she was treating me.
(29:18):
I was like I'm just let thisslide, I'm gonna let this slide.
And then eventually it was likeokay, this is exactly what I
did before, or it was, it was.
It was totally different,different circumstances
situations of course but, um,nah, now I'm like really like I
(29:38):
could just see what's going tohappen, or I could see like, oh
shit, if I let this slide, if Ilet that slide.
Now, in relationships likemoving forward, my main thing is
holding the frame, like of therelationship, I guess.
So it's not necessarily PTSD,because I just feel like
(30:00):
everybody is different and Idon't know.
I just got this thing of like Igot a lot of shit that I need
to improve on for myself.
So me today and me five yearsfrom now, something's going to
be different in terms of growth.
So like, if I'm just super hardon somebody, not saying like I
(30:21):
just let them do anything, but Idon't think everybody's perfect
, so but yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,I'm not trying to like be into
something again to where itfeels like past relationships.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
Do you feel like I'm too hard in my relationship?
Speaker 2 (30:39):
Yes, Okay, yeah, yeah , that I understand.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
Okay, I was like I see what he's saying, yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
Yeah, no, I wasn't no-transcript.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,yeah yeah, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah
, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
(31:17):
yeah's very respectable, but um,yeah, sometimes it's just like
I don't understand say what, soI broke up with no, I, I
definitely never just told me astory like no, oh, I know what
story you're talking about,because I only broke up one time
.
It's not like I just be breakingup no, I'm saying really nearly
like that no, no, no no, I.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
So, yeah, the story, yeah, so it was just like hey, I
have a boundary and I, I choosepeace over that.
So if you're giving me morestrife, then then that's, that's
an issue, and you go over theboundary that I told you not to
go over, so that.
So that's completely, andthat's the only time I've ever
did that.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
I'm talking about moments where you would have an
argument and then you were likealright, bet, we ain't sharing
locations no more.
You're just like take that away.
I'm just saying it's something.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
If I did that, then I was tripping.
You know what I mean.
I don't even know thecircumstance you're speaking on
Bruh.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
You said something happened and then the girl was
mad at you for something, or itwas something dealing with a
time frame or when something wassupposed to happen, and then
y'all had a back and forth andthen you were like all right,
I'm just going to turn mylocation off, you ain't going to
know where I'm at, I ain'tgoing to know where you at, and
(32:39):
like, I don't know bro.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
I'm like it was just an argument.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
Yeah yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.
Maybe you can re-give me thestory off camera, because I
don't maybe I said that to sayit, but I didn't do it.
Yes, you did okay well, I'm,I'm.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
I don't know what you're talking about.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
I'm just trying to find out what.
What it makes sense, becauseI've only I've, I maybe did that
like twice, like, and I don'tcare that.
The two reasons doesn't soundlike that, was it okay?
Yeah yeah, yeah, so um but notthe way.
Yeah, yeah you know, I I thinkthat I can be tough on in
general.
Yeah, I make and this isactually.
(33:25):
I said this to her yesterdayand it was speaking, she was a
part of the thing, but it wasn'tlike just about her, it was
talking about me, like I puteverybody else first and I
choose me last.
Yeah, so there's a level ofthings I feel like I can get
(33:46):
away with.
And I told her I'm not sayingthis is right, but this is how I
feel and I know it's wrong, butI was like there's things that
I can do or get away withbecause I know I'm.
There's nobody that can tell methat Justin is an absolute
selfish person.
Am I?
Can I do selfish things attimes?
Yes, but those are rare times,but I always put people before
(34:07):
myself, and so when I do that,there's things that I may be
less willing to budge on,because I know how many times I
made sure you were straight overme.
Yeah, so I'm so, in a way, Itry to, and it could be very
transactional, it could beperiod away, but there's things
that I'm willing and willing notto accept.
(34:28):
Yeah, and I can be very toughin situations, because if I am
working more to make sure you'restraight then there's less
grace on your half.
You know what I mean.
Yeah, yeah, that's so.
That's just kind of how itworks in my head.
I know there's a level of wrongin that.
I know that's right in that too, but there's wrong in that as
(34:49):
well, and I need to be morebetter on presenting.
That is so.
I do agree that I can be tootough sometimes.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
Sprinkle it out.
Speaker 1 (35:03):
But I knew that's what the answer you was going to
give.
I'll be surprised if you'relike, nah, you ain't tough.
I'll be like, oh really.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
I can't go harder oh shit.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
Now I can get the whips and chains out.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
We're over.
Nah, nah, the whips and chainsout.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
We're all right on time.
I got a game.
Do you got a game?
Speaker 2 (35:25):
I have one, but you're going to win.
Oh God, we can do it.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
This one's supposed to be fun, because this one is
going to be tough.
There's no way you're going toget this shit right.
All right, yeah, because I youknow I had the question already
in line, but I never reallylooked up the answers.
And then when, because Ithought I was I thought you know
that.
Well, let me give the game well, let me do mine first okay,
that sounds more interesting.
Speaker 2 (35:47):
Okay, so, uh, there's a list, uh in the us of um, of
where, like uh, ranked like the,the top 10 cities with the most
beautiful women okay and I wasjust going to ask you can you
give me five that's on that list, the top 10 cities, yeah I have
(36:08):
most of them in my new york.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
Yes, okay, um los angeles, yes, well, I mean, I'm
just naming the bigger cities.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
I know, this is what I thought about it after I'm
like you know what, but allright chicago yes okay, okay,
okay.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
So that's three atlanta, yes, boston, boston, no
, I don't think so.
San Francisco, yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
Did you know Nashville was on there?
Oh no, I didn't.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
Yeah, like on multiple different lists.
Okay, nashville was on there.
Speaker 1 (36:49):
I wasn't even going to say Nashville.
Yeah, most beautiful girls inthe country.
Okay, was Memphis on there?
That was.
That sounded a little shadyjust giving my history about.
I actually think that I meanand maybe it's more of a black
(37:11):
woman thing.
They y'all got one of the mostbeautiful women black women
there is.
I just think so in general,like now when I went to cordoba
high school I was like oh yeah,cordoba, yeah there was a just a
lot of beautiful black women,yeah yeah, it was just yeah.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
Those schools, those on the outskirts, yeah yeah,
yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:25):
So that's just the reason why I said that uh-huh
and yeah, but then of course youknow it's majority white
country.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
So that just makes sense.
Oh right, yeah, yeah, yeah,yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:34):
Without Nashville?
Yeah, exactly.
Exactly, and what you're goingto find attractive is really
what I'm saying, because you'relooking through white people's
lens.
So, they're not going to sayMemphis.
So I was just really kind ofthey're not, you know what I
mean yeah, so mine is of thatlist.
This is actually Let me justgive the game.
So this is the top fivecountries With the highest
(37:58):
divorce rates, and I'm going tohelp you out a little bit.
But it's just going to be alittle guess Whatever country
you're thinking about, it's notit?
Yeah, yeah, so I thought, soI'm going to give you one that's
not on.
Yeah, yeah, so I thought, youknow, I just so I'm gonna give
you one that's not on the list.
United states is not on thelist that was my first one, yeah
(38:20):
exactly, then that's actually.
I was shocked yeah, for realthough yeah, um, so this is per
1000, and so it's based on mostrecent global data from 2021
through 2023 where do people goto cheat?
(38:41):
I'm gonna go with divorce Idon't think you're gonna get one
of these damn you know theseyou?
Know some of these countries,but you're not gonna get it.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
And I'll help you out Spain.
Speaker 1 (38:55):
No.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
London.
Speaker 1 (39:09):
No.
Speaker 2 (39:11):
Is it somewhere in the UK?
No, yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:14):
Then it'll be UK on those or England.
So you said a city.
Speaker 2 (39:21):
Yeah, I'm not the greatest at that.
Speaker 1 (39:24):
So there's nowhere in North America.
Speaker 2 (39:27):
Nowhere in North America, mexico, that's it.
Speaker 1 (39:31):
That's North America, north or South America.
How about that?
Speaker 2 (39:42):
Hmm, I'm going to start throwing shit out there.
Tokyo.
Speaker 1 (39:45):
That's the city, but you're still wrong.
It's not Japan, it's not evenAsia I mean, asian-ist is one of
them, but they're more centraleurope mostly.
But it's actually kind of tougha little bit.
Uh, give you one.
Um, I'm gonna give you this onebecause you're not gonna guess
(40:07):
it.
Speaker 2 (40:08):
Kazakhstan why did I know you was gonna say that
really, oh god, what the fuck.
I should have said that umthat's number two in the world.
Speaker 1 (40:21):
Pakistan that's the only stand you got on the list.
Afghanistan was next um uh,thailand no uh, thailand, no, no
Asian country, like that shit.
Greenland nah, I feel likeyou're out of guesses.
(40:47):
I think I'm out of guesses.
So number one is Maldives.
Yeah, how would you ever haveguessed that?
And that's just consistentlythe highest worldwide, so it's
like unanimous and it's leading.
Kazakhstan is number two,russia is number three, belarus
is number four, belgium isnumber five.
(41:09):
Where's Belarus?
It's up there in like, likeclose to Russia, I think.
Belgium is like the midpointbetween Germany, germany, france
or something like that it's inthat whole Central Europe.
So the reason why I divorcewhile Maldives is like number
(41:34):
one, divorce is legally simple,simple and affordable.
Yeah, so social acceptance ishigh, so it's just like regular
divorce is fine it's easy, yeah,exactly.
Kazakhstan and other formerSoviet states like Russia and
Moldova, is no-fault divorcelaws evolving social norms and
(41:54):
economic pressures.
That's very vague, and Belgiumand other Western European
countries, as financialindependence and gender equality
contribute to easierdissolution of marriage.
Speaker 2 (42:10):
Socially accepted.
Yeah, yeah, so it ain't evenknow like um.
You know how the the phrase ischeaper to keep her yeah they
don't even go through this, yeahexactly so, even with united
states.
Speaker 1 (42:25):
So this is like three percent.
Uh, maldives is 5.52 per 1000.
Uh, united States is 2.7 to 2.8per 1,000.
So it's significantly lowerthan a lot of these countries,
just because it's extremelyexpensive to get divorced here.
Yeah, yeah, so that's kind ofreally why we're actually lower.
(42:47):
Because we're actually lowerthan China.
Speaker 2 (42:51):
Really.
Speaker 1 (42:52):
Yeah, china is 3.2.
China is more strict.
Yeah, exactly With, really yeah, china's 3.2.
Speaker 2 (42:57):
With everything.
No, I didn't know that?
Speaker 1 (43:00):
That was cool.
Speaker 2 (43:01):
That was a good game.
Speaker 1 (43:02):
Yeah, really good.
I think we can kind of wrap itup here yeah.
Hold on.
There's one thing we actuallydidn't talk about.
We can finish here.
I wanted your take on uh besimone uh huh.
Speaker 2 (43:20):
I just saw a post of her response of um, the
conversation that she had withher friend, and in the response
it said watch the whole thing.
But um, and in response it saidwatch the whole thing.
But I've been seeing so manymemes of like other people doing
(43:40):
it.
It's too funny.
It's just like there was onewith this girl and she was like
she was like yeah, and then mycar broke down and the other
girl was like Jesus, I lost myhouse and my Jesus.
That was too funny.
Speaker 1 (43:58):
Yeah, yeah, that definitely the internet gives
her no grace.
Oh yeah, no, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (44:05):
That was the perfect thing for her online presence.
Yeah, for people to just tag onto something, yeah, but what do
I think about it?
Um, I I from the clip, from the, from the clip alone.
(44:27):
Clearly, I did not watch thewhole thing right, but the clip
that is being circulated aroundviciously, um, it just sounds
like.
It just sounds like it paintedthe picture of making her look
like she was just thinking aboutherself or you know, like this,
this, this person that like Idon't know that, that that can
(44:49):
come off as like jealous aboutnot having, because it was, it
was a two-part thing.
Right, it was like the girlended up having some type of
success or whatever, and then beSimone was like she, she wished
(45:11):
it.
You know, it was both of theminstead of just her.
Speaker 1 (45:14):
I never saw that clip .
The one that I was saying shewas not giving no grace for was
her choosing H&M overBloomingdale's because she was
broke.
What, yeah, that's the one.
Speaker 2 (45:27):
What you talking about B Simone.
Speaker 1 (45:29):
Yeah, she was like I'm giving a general statement.
That's not what she said.
She wasn't saying I'm broke,but she was like she didn't have
the same affordability as shehas in the past you talking
about the friend?
no, b Simone saying that likehey, I was looking at
Bloomingdale's and I was lookingat the price of Bloomingdale's
and like damn, we're gonna haveto go to H&M.
You didn't see that video?
(45:51):
Okay, well, we'll.
I think we just need to brushgo to H&M.
You didn't see that video?
Uh-uh, okay, well, I think wejust need to branch upon it and
we're going to keep thisconversation for next week.
Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (45:59):
You don't know about the friend and like basically
telling her about how her lifewas terrible and then she was
friends with B Simone.
Speaker 1 (46:09):
No.
Speaker 2 (46:10):
And she was listing all these things and then he
smokes like wow, like likeclearly she could have helped
her.
Speaker 1 (46:19):
Oh, oh no.
Speaker 2 (46:20):
I have to see that.
No, that's literally what.
Speaker 1 (46:23):
That's not what I've been seeing.
Speaker 2 (46:25):
Yeah, maybe, yeah.
Speaker 1 (46:28):
And this sounds like it's the same podcast.
Yeah, yeah, maybe.
Speaker 2 (46:30):
Yeah, well, we got some things to brush up on,
because I have a separateconversation.
Speaker 1 (46:33):
This sounds like it's the same podcast but yeah, yeah
, maybe I don't know, yeah, yeah, well, we got some things to
brush up on, because I have aseparate conversation versus
yours.
And we're going to just save itfor next week.
Yeah, we can do that, all right, for sure.
Well, this is Justin Devanteand Steve.
Ray All right, we two for theculture.
We'll see y'all.
Speaker 2 (46:52):
Peace.
and we are back with another episode of two for
culture.
Uh, I'm justin devante, I'mstephen ray and, yes, sir, we
are back.
How you feeling?
I feel good.
I feel really good.
I feel good too.
We had a pretty good timeyesterday just getting out a
little bit, yeah bro, that wastoo fun.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Like I woke up today I was like I'm happy man.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
Yeah, really yeah no, it was actually cool.
Yeah, uh, which picture?
Because you took a lot ofdifferent phone booths that each
we went bar hopping it say, Iknow I'm probably gonna skip it,
so let's just talk about whatwe did, right.
But yeah, so we just, you know,it was a day to where we both
(00:38):
have free, because I didn't haveto work on Monday.
So we went out.
Where do we start at?
We started at um dino's.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
That was like the burger joint.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
You had the hot chicken right yeah, yeah, you
know they people were worriedabout the burgers.
It was cool, it was okay.
You know, the fries were reallygood with the you had a burger
sauce on top.
Yeah, yeah you had the hotchicken and it was a hot chicken
, too hot for you it.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
It wasn't too hot but like I don't know the initial
taste hit in my mouth, itdefinitely like kind of cleared
my sinuses okay, and that I.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
That was mild all right, they had a spicy.
I knew I wasn't gonna hit thespice.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Oh wow, so if that was fucking mild, yeah, oh, my
god yeah, yeah why even do thatto yourself?
Speaker 1 (01:21):
yeah, so we had it was cool, so we went to Dino's.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Then we went to mother's ruin, yeah yeah, and
that was cool got like a coupledrinks.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
And then that's when we I went to the second floor
and we had the phone booth yeah,and then you like the photo
booth, yeah exactly photo booth.
My fault, I'm gonna start doingthat shit everywhere.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
No, that was actually cool.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Yeah, yeah, yeah posted on Instagram and then I
was fault.
I'm going to start doing thatshit everywhere.
No, that was actually cool,yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
So you had posted it on Instagram, and then I was
like, well, I'm about to do one.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So then I did one.
It was cool.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
But they do come quick because you pay before, so
it's not like you redo it orsee what you done.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
Right.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
And redo another.
One picture is always like yeah, it's too quick, and then you
take three pictures and thatthere when I finally noticed to
stare at that photo thing andnot like myself, oh yeah, so
yeah, that's cool.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Then we went to oldies that was a midtown, oh
die so it's a new bar we got.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Which bar was there before?
I think was maybe like rebar orsomething, and so that's a new
bar and it's a new bar.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
I forgot which bar was there before.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
I think it was maybe like Rebar or something, and so
that's a new bar.
They made it way bigger.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
That's what the old couple was next to us oh, okay,
yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So we went to four places.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Damn, yeah, that last one.
Where was that?
Speaker 1 (02:39):
That was Penn's Mechanical.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
That's the spot.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you was serving me in the little
basketball thing.
Yeah, yeah yeah, you call itBeer Pong.
It's the big version of BeerPong.
Yeah, it's what it was.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Okay, yeah, I fucked with that place.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Yeah, yeah, no, penn's Mechanical is cool, but
it was inevitably going to bethe last place because I was
like I might as well drain mybattery around town and then go
to last place to charge the car.
So I always knew well, we mayhave.
Depending how things started,we was probably gonna start at
ml rose and I would charge thecar there, so we would never
went to pins but, but I was likelet me make this the last trip
(03:22):
yeah, yeah, yeah, it'll be cool,yeah, yeah and you, we could
have did a lot more.
It had, you know we yeah, no,that was.
That was cool the whole day no,so yeah, yeah, so overall
success.
You know, I was definitelyfeeling like I wish I had the
hookah thing back at the house,oh yeah yeah, that would have
been definitely chilling, Idefinitely didn't know, yeah.
(03:43):
So I just kind of, you know,chilled out for a little bit
before I started driving Uber,and then you just kind of
relaxed for the rest of the day.
Yeah, I got you, I got you.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
All right, that was dope, that was dope.
I got to go back to that place.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Penn's McKenna, penn's Mechanical, penn's
Mechanical, that place, pens.
Mckenna pens mechanical, pinsmechanical yeah, yeah, yeah, go
there, go there.
Yeah, yeah, no, well, I thinkthey may have another place in
another place.
You know, that's just not theonly place you can uh go to a
bar.
I think they have like thisnationwide thing, I think, oh
really I think uh, um, since I'm, I'm going back the only thing
(04:23):
they don't serve food.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
They don't.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Yeah, I know that's what they.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
They don't even look right, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
They don't even sound right.
Exactly Like I think they mayhave like Hot Pockets or
something crazy like that.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
That's kind of dope though.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
What?
Because that's why they havethe food truck outside too, oh
yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
That's kind of makes sense a little bit, not really.
All you can do is drink, soyou're going to have to
basically just spend money andyou're not going to sober up.
Does that make?
Speaker 1 (04:54):
sense.
I think you can make money agrip off food, though, and they
have so many tables, yeah, yeah.
And then they have bowling andpeople can eat while they bowl.
Right can eat water boy.
It just makes so much sense tohave food.
Yeah, you definitely losing outon money because more people
can linger on.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
They eat and drink at the same time it makes more
sense to do that I still kind oflike that you know that now you
have to like make whatever yourday is a day like, so we get
food here and then we go herelike if it's like a date yeah, I
mean, I get it's however youwant to look at it.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
But yeah, it would make more sense for them to have
food there.
Yeah, it threw me off when yousaid it.
Absolutely yeah, for sure, um,but no, it was.
I had a really good time.
So I'm glad you know the kindof stars aligned for us to even
have a day to kind of reallyeven enjoy so that was super
dope.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
We can really get if you have nothing to add?
Speaker 1 (05:55):
Is there something that's pressing on your mind?
Pressing, yeah, what do youmean?
Just anything.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Anything yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
No oh.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
I got you nothing I think of yes for sure.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
Yeah, but there's something that uh found
interesting, just, you know,seeing people's relationships
uh-huh, um, and like even my momand dad I don't I wouldn't call
them good friends, but but theyhave a good relationship to
talk and chill or not chill,just like they can have that.
(06:30):
They haven't had that in yearsand they really don't talk to
each other.
But it just reminds me of thegood.
Usually, if you're in along-term relationship and it
ends, there's always a friction.
That's there and it justsparked a question, even though
my mom and dad don't have thisrelationship because they don't
talk Not that they have like anyanimosity, but could you be in
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a relationship be?
Speaker 2 (06:59):
in a long term relationship with somebody, then
be best friends with them.
Afterwards.
Best friends Mm, hmm, I'm notsure best friends, but I could
be like on the phone, just likekind of cordial, like hey, how
are you?
You know which has happened.
Yeah, I can.
(07:20):
I know what you're talkingabout, though.
I mean, I don't know if it'slike it could be that close.
Because it sounds like they'renot that close.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
I mean no, but it could be that and it wouldn't
feel weird.
You know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Oh, uh-huh, yeah, but there's some people that I've
seen that are like close friends, and maybe it's because they
were married before and thenthey their best friends and
maybe there's like some tv showyeah I did hear about, maybe in
the past month, that I wasscrolling and there was a guy
and he was married to his wifefor like I don't know 10 I don't
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know the time frame, but a longtime and they broke up and now
she's still.
Now she's still, she's still tothis day like, basically,
controls like his money, likehis finances okay yeah, so I
think, he's not married.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
He's not married yet.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Okay, no, I'm saying married again, because that
would be kind of weird yeah,that would be very strange, that
was my only thing too, becauseI feel like that alone, like
being in another relationship,it's automatically going to fuck
that up.
Well, I think I just don't seewomen just being okay.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
With another person.
Y'all are one, so you'reeffectively controlling our
money.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Oh my God, I didn't even think about that.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
How could somebody be willing to trust another
individual that they was yeah,no, no, I wouldn't be that
trusting and I that'd be astretch to ask for that, yeah,
from another person, let alonewoman or man you know what I
mean.
I couldn't yeah, of course.
Like hey, my ex-husbandcontrols my finances.
(09:03):
Uh-huh, you be like what yeah,you're gonna have to convince me
you really gonna have to sellme on this why this makes sense
mm-hmm.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Yeah, yeah, I was talking to somebody the other
day and she was cooking onSunday for her family and then
she said, yeah, you know mydad's coming and I don't know
what my mom's doing.
And then I was like, wouldn'tthey just ride together?
She was like, oh no, they'redivorced, they're not together.
I was like, oh, so they hangout and stuff.
(09:37):
I mean sometimes I mean I don'tthink that if something wasn't
bad that you just have to likenever see this person again.
And she just said it in a waywhere it was like healthy like
it wasn't like any animosity.
I know you got a wife, um, yougot a husband, whatever.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Like y'all have separate lives, but the friend
thing that I was saying, or thatyou were saying yeah, well, I
guess is there anybody that youdated that you could see
yourself being best friends with.
See when you throw the best onthere, yeah, just like, well,
okay, you don't have to be onthe best friends, yeah, but it
can be somebody you are friendswith yeah that you can talk.
(10:22):
You'll call on and talk to themand get a relationship advice
from and yeah, but, you don'tgot to be like.
The best is like hey, you knowyou have to be here.
You know because, becauseyou're supporting me and I
expect you to be there, you know.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
I mean, you know I don't be like that.
Um, yeah, I can see that, I cankind of see that.
Um, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I Ididn't think that at first, but
like after, like the dustsettles from any relationship
really, and then you just kindof see, like where y'all at, I
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have um somebody I possiblycould be like friends, you know,
yeah, I mean I, I think,because I just feel like as soon
as you throw in a new situation, that's your day, right?
Speaker 1 (11:15):
yeah, right, and that's understandably so.
Like you already had a, youalready had a certain dynamic
with each other, yeah, and thennow a person's coming on that's
uncomfortable for thatindividual.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Right.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
So I would, if I'm say I'm that best friend for a
girl that I did date, I couldsee how I should be removed from
what y'all got going.
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
Yeah, could you do it ?
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Could I be friends with somebody I was could you
date a girl and she's bestfriends with her, I mean we're
best friends with daddy.
Well, I mean like like she callshim every time like you had a
(12:05):
bad day.
I just need to talk to somebodyI mean, I guess, yeah, I guess
that's okay.
It's just when y'all like ify'all are talking about y'all
can grab lunch together, I thinkthat's that's fine.
But in terms of, hey, y'all arereally hanging out at night,
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that's kind of where my drawline is Just brunch time.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Huh, they can just hang out at brunch hours.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
As long as y'all are not going to each other's houses
and it's not dinner Like brunch, and having lunch with somebody
, that should have a goodrelationship definitely.
If it came before me and that'swhat y'all are doing, that's
fine.
I think I can live with that.
And you said her baby daddy.
I mean, you're gonna have tohave a relationship with them
anyway and there's a lot thatyou need to discuss and talk
about parent wise.
(12:51):
Of course, that can bedefinitely done over the phone,
but I can live with that yeah, Imean I mean, and he's uh, and
then I would assess, hopefullythat he's a good dude.
Obviously, if you're hangingwith him, I would trust your
judgment that you hang withsomebody that's cool.
So if I met him, like he's acool dude, yeah, yeah, yeah, I
totally get why you would wantto hang with him.
Now, if he's like some hood-assnigga, I don't even get it.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
You know what I?
Speaker 1 (13:15):
mean yeah, I don't see it.
I don't like him, he don't likeme.
Hold the other thing huh I'mjust giving this situation oh,
yeah, no I gotta make sense.
I'm hood.
Niggas can be personable.
You know what I mean, but Idon't associate with that, you
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know?
Speaker 2 (13:36):
yeah, yeah yeah, I don't know, man.
I couldn't imagine being with.
I'm trying to put myself intothis and then my girl is on the
phone with her baby daddytalking about I don't care, I
don't know yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
I mean in a person who's friends with like, of
course there's going to be a lotof different things, that would
be kind of draw the line yeah,going to be a lot of different
things.
That would be kind of draw theline.
Yeah, but that person is coming, is like hey, if he's giving
her advice, that is also likekind of checking her in a way.
(14:15):
It's like you know you do betripping when you do this thing
and you need to work on that andif you think you're going to
keep him, because I think thatsometimes manly advice is
important- important too.
Yeah, yeah, and you're going tosomebody who knows you well,
then as long as that love it'sjust love, you know what I mean.
It's not like friendly love,then it's not none more.
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Then I'm okay with that in acertain way.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
You know what I mean just because I know I'm living
in the one time to me.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
Yeah, I think this is like a fairytale world we're
living in.
Yeah, yeah, we're just assumingthat she's not going to draw
any feelings you know, I mean, Ithink this is a really fancy
world to say I'm saying.
That's why you got to sell iton me yeah, I had just a quick
story.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
I was, I was dating this girl and she broke up with
me for like a random reason,because we got back together
like the next day or some shit.
So she just like crashed out,basically, and just broke up
with me.
And then, yeah, later I foundout, in the 24, 24 hour period
(15:24):
of us breaking up, she invitedher ex over to her house to talk
about what you just said about,like what's wrong with me?
Like you know, I really likehim.
I literally talking about methe whole time.
And then she said that he leftmad and I'm like what did you
think was going to happen?
He left mad because I'm likewhat did you think was gonna
(15:45):
happen?
He left mad cuz she invited himover oh.
I mean 2 am yeah and yeah, andthey had that conversation.
So there are people out therethat will do that just like.
Hey, like what's wrong with me?
Like what's what am I doingwrong?
What could I do better?
Yeah and yeah, I don't trustniggas.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
I mean what did?
He wasn't a friend of hers.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
I think maybe she was looking for that but see,
that's not saying yeah.
I'm just saying like thatreminded me of how else that
could go.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Yeah See, I just prayed that my girlfriend has
more self-awareness than that.
So, you invite somebody at 2 amand you didn't you know.
I mean, at bare minimum, letthem know what's happening,
right?
Yeah, that's something you havea phone conversation with, at
minimum, and if you need to getit out, then I can maybe
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somewhat understand a call.
So I don't fault her for tryingto get an understanding of what
she's doing wrong.
I think, yeah, but it was theperson that you didn't really
communicate well with him so hecould know what's happening no,
she told like I said niggas,just gonna be niggas I mean, if
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I get invited over and you wantto talk about love all right,
I'm pulling, so why is he madthen?
Speaker 2 (17:16):
probably because he ain't getting her.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
No, so who?
You mad at yourself, she toldyou while you're coming in.
If, if, if somebody says hey, Ineed help moving.
Yeah, you're like bro you.
If somebody says hey, I needhelp moving, yeah, you know,
like bro, you didn't throw me nopussy, though he's like.
I told you I need help moving,you know?
Yeah, that's on you to be madat yourself?
Speaker 2 (17:36):
Yeah, no, for sure For sure, I was just, I was just
it just reminded me of that onemoment and I was just like bro,
but what the fuck?
Speaker 1 (17:46):
was that.
But yeah, so.
But I think that that actuallyis a good step in the right
direction if, when she did that,at least at that moment you
know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (17:55):
I guess she kept tripping after that.
I said at that moment yeah,yeah, yes so she didn't.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
She tried so, but not only that.
He ain't gonna give good advicebecause he ain't trying to.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, yeah, I think you shoulddo this next time he's trying to
have sex, so he's probablygoing to tell you you did
everything right oh, yeah, yeahyeah, so he's giving bad advice
because he's not coming with theright intentions oh god, yeah,
yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
His whole intention is like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
So he's like whatever allows me the easiest access so
I'm gonna give you you know I'mgonna be a yes man in this
situation yeah so that that yeah, but yeah, I, I do commend if
she's willing to say hey, okay,I've recognized and this is an
issue, and this you're not this.
You're the second person thatreacted in this way.
Maybe it's in me, so let me goback to the original source I
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can see where she was comingfrom, and that was that's.
I give her, at least at themoment, to be props now who she
should.
She should have known who hewas.
But I mean, whatever happenedat that moment I can see.
Uh, I, I don't follow her.
I guess it's at the end of theday I had a question too.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
Yeah, relationships, do you think, and this was the
same, it's with the same girlthat.
I had, um, that I thought aboutthis um, or or one of the many
uh relationships that I was inthat I thought about do you feel
like?
Do you feel like, when you'rewith someone, the intensity of
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love, the level of love that ispoured into the relationship?
Do you think that one daythat's gonna match the intensity
of pain in the relationship?
because I thought about it withthat girl and I was talking to
(19:46):
you about it one day and I wassaying how quickly we got
together, how fast we moved toget together, was exactly how
fast that shit ended yeah and Ithought about that too in
another relationship of mine oflike how long the long term
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relationship that I had likewith her, she like, and how long
that was and how much love waspoured into it and all that.
And I was fucked at the end ofthat, like couldn't even breath.
So then I thought about, like Iwonder if the amount of love
that you put into something oneday that I don't know that's a
pessimistic way of looking at it, but I wonder if that's true,
(20:32):
okay.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
so, because you said a little, a lot, okay, okay.
So give me the question onemore time.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
Do you think that the amount of love that you pour
into a relationship, like thelevel of it do you think in that
same relationship, one day painis going to match that same
intensity of?
Speaker 1 (20:56):
love.
I think that it can definitely.
It definitely can for sure,yeah, I mean like does, is it,
is it?
Speaker 2 (21:02):
is it a two-in-one package in everything, every
relationship?
I mean think about all yourrelationships and like how much
you love just this and then likethe end of it yeah, I think it
was.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
I think the more you love them yeah, I think it's.
Yeah, I think there's an equalopposite reaction level to it.
A little yeah and um yeah,because if you love so much and
then you're separating from theperson you love, then that's
going to equal that pain.
I think, yeah, because you,you're mad that you gotta let
(21:37):
that person go, that that person, but you know, broke your heart
, you know, yeah, so this.
So I think that all that comeswith each other.
Hopefully it doesn't get tothat point and y'all, you know
y'all get married and furtherthe relationship.
But if it breaks up, it's notgoing to be like an oh well
feeling, not if you truly lovethat person you want to see
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yourself with, yeah, but alsoyou can also have that love.
Then it's also like and I knowI didn't follow this, but I know
that it can exist.
So what I was about to this?
But I know that it can exist.
So what I was about to say, orwhat I am saying, is, when you
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love somebody, there is like mylast one I've only been to a
relationship the one I'm in nowand the last one, so the one
previous to it it was like, allright, I can see why this will
not work out.
Yeah, yeah, I was like we'rejust too different.
There's a lot of things in yourlife that you have strife in um
(22:44):
, but I ignored them.
So what and what?
I'm saying?
That, too, there is theopposite side of to where I
could have been like phased thatout over over time and be like
all right, yeah, I need to comeup with an exit plan because
this ain't going to work.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, yeah.
And then that's like let meease my heart.
(23:05):
I'm not saying this ain't mebecause I don't think I really
have that emotional control tothat degree, at least in my, in
my mind.
Now there is a more controlthat I maybe not let you see.
Yeah, yeah, like he looksunfazed by this, but actually
(23:28):
I'm, but I'll deal that in mymind.
Yeah, back then I was very muchled with my sleeve, for sure,
but yeah, yeah, so but I thinkthat if you truly love a person,
that there's not that pain isgoing to equal that love that
you have for her.
And then we, for me, I getguarded and I get kind of
(23:49):
hardened into it.
So it's harder for you to getmore accepting of that love yeah
, into it.
So it's harder for you to getmore accepting of that love yeah
, yeah, and because I may treatyou as equal as that last
relationship, but because that'sfairness, I don't want to take
that away from anybody but it'smore accepting and be more um,
uh, controlling of how your most, how how you act, makes me
(24:15):
react.
Am I making sense?
Speaker 2 (24:17):
Yeah, okay, you're giving yourself more.
So the power versus love itself, exactly.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
That's beautiful.
That's exactly what I wastrying to say in all that.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
Yeah, To where it's like all right.
I still may be heartbroken to adegree, but I'm not going to be
overreactive.
I understand how this goes.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
Yeah, yeah all right, yeah, that scares me a little
bit sometimes.
I mean, I haven't been well, Iguess, like today now, uh,
myself now today it kind ofscares me a little bit, like if
I start liking a girl and thenlike when the love starts
happening liking a girl and then, like, when the love shit
(24:59):
starts happening, I I do, well,it hasn't happened yet, but uh,
when I, when I look forward likein the future and shit, um,
yeah, it does kind of like it'slike a small little thing in my
head, just like, damn, like themore that I like this person,
like something.
I mean, even if you're marriedwhatever, even if, even if you,
you stay with this person untillike death, I feel like that
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love something's gonna happen towhere, like, it's gonna be the
same intense, uh, the sameintensity of how it is is to add
to my point, is I over the lastit's 2025.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
So over the last two years I hold myself to a higher
regard than I ever have before,like I was, and not to say I
don't have insecurities now, butI had a lot more than have
insecurities now, but I had alot more than yeah to where that
?
You know, I felt that, eventhough I now looking at, I
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brought a ton, a lot to thetable, but I, I was the cat, you
know, she was a catch more thanI was.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, so, yeah, sothat, so the leverage was felt,
I felt like in my mind, eventhough uh everybody else may
have seen different in my mindthat I was definitely she was
already catching me and she hadmore of that leverage.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
I get that.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
And so now I feel more as like that does change
things actually.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
I do remember feeling that before.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
Damn.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
Yeah, it changed the shit.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
Because now I'll be like I know absolutely I'm not
for everybody and so I alwaysstate that I want to be clear on
that.
But also I know I see, now thatI got experience, I see how
other people date too, and I waslike, hey, there's a lot of
things I don't have, but there'sa lot of things I don't have,
but there's a lot of things I dohave and you ain't just gonna
(26:59):
get me everywhere.
You know, yeah, it's, I'm notthat easy to replace for real oh
, yeah, yeah yeah, so you can doit if you want, but I know how
many people will be happy withbeing a partner who have the
same attributes as me that's,that's fact so what about you?
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Uh, in terms of the, uh, the,the love to pain, equalness of
it do you?
Feel that same way, or do youfeel?
Speaker 2 (27:28):
I feel like it might be a two-in-one thing, mm-hmm,
mm-hmm.
Yeah, I don't know.
I'm trying to think of everyrelationship that I've been in
and the ones where it was likereal love there.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
It was, the more it like they.
I'm the same near amount ofpain.
Yeah, yeah, somewhere in thereyeah, how?
Speaker 1 (28:02):
what's your perspective on it?
I feel like you're not astraumatized as I am or your past
relationship like like, oh,like never gonna date anybody
with no, no, I don't thinkthat's what I I do, but I feel
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like I'm hardened to a certaindegree.
You know, I feel like you're,you're very, you know, and I'm,
I'm cautious, uh-huh, yeah, yeah, um, but I feel like you don't
have that same PTSD in that way.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
I don't know.
I just feel like I really don'tknow how to answer that Ask me,
okay.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
Well, okay, I'll be more specific and not compare us
to.
Is that?
What I'm saying?
Is I feel like you should bemore hard in giving your past
relationships.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
Yeah, then is, I feel like you should be more hard in
giving your past relationshipsyeah yeah, then what I feel,
like you are um, I think, Ithink now it's a little
different.
Um, just because of literallylike my last relationship, like
that just taught me a lot.
I was just thrown off by likehow well she was treating me.
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I was like I'm just let thisslide, I'm gonna let this slide.
And then eventually it was likeokay, this is exactly what I
did before, or it was, it was.
It was totally different,different circumstances
situations of course but, um,nah, now I'm like really like I
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could just see what's going tohappen, or I could see like, oh
shit, if I let this slide, if Ilet that slide.
Now, in relationships likemoving forward, my main thing is
holding the frame, like of therelationship, I guess.
So it's not necessarily PTSD,because I just feel like
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everybody is different and Idon't know.
I just got this thing of like Igot a lot of shit that I need
to improve on for myself.
So me today and me five yearsfrom now, something's going to
be different in terms of growth.
So like, if I'm just super hardon somebody, not saying like I
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just let them do anything, but Idon't think everybody's perfect
, so but yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,I'm not trying to like be into
something again to where itfeels like past relationships.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
Do you feel like I'm too hard in my relationship?
Speaker 2 (30:39):
Yes, Okay, yeah, yeah , that I understand.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
Okay, I was like I see what he's saying, yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
Yeah, no, I wasn't no-transcript.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,yeah yeah, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah
, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
(31:17):
yeah's very respectable, but um,yeah, sometimes it's just like
I don't understand say what, soI broke up with no, I, I
definitely never just told me astory like no, oh, I know what
story you're talking about,because I only broke up one time
.
It's not like I just be breakingup no, I'm saying really nearly
like that no, no, no no, I.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
So, yeah, the story, yeah, so it was just like hey, I
have a boundary and I, I choosepeace over that.
So if you're giving me morestrife, then then that's, that's
an issue, and you go over theboundary that I told you not to
go over, so that.
So that's completely, andthat's the only time I've ever
did that.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
I'm talking about moments where you would have an
argument and then you were likealright, bet, we ain't sharing
locations no more.
You're just like take that away.
I'm just saying it's something.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
If I did that, then I was tripping.
You know what I mean.
I don't even know thecircumstance you're speaking on
Bruh.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
You said something happened and then the girl was
mad at you for something, or itwas something dealing with a
time frame or when something wassupposed to happen, and then
y'all had a back and forth andthen you were like all right,
I'm just going to turn mylocation off, you ain't going to
know where I'm at, I ain'tgoing to know where you at, and
(32:39):
like, I don't know bro.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
I'm like it was just an argument.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
Yeah yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.
Maybe you can re-give me thestory off camera, because I
don't maybe I said that to sayit, but I didn't do it.
Yes, you did okay well, I'm,I'm.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
I don't know what you're talking about.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
I'm just trying to find out what.
What it makes sense, becauseI've only I've, I maybe did that
like twice, like, and I don'tcare that.
The two reasons doesn't soundlike that, was it okay?
Yeah yeah, yeah, so um but notthe way.
Yeah, yeah you know, I I thinkthat I can be tough on in
general.
Yeah, I make and this isactually.
(33:25):
I said this to her yesterdayand it was speaking, she was a
part of the thing, but it wasn'tlike just about her, it was
talking about me, like I puteverybody else first and I
choose me last.
Yeah, so there's a level ofthings I feel like I can get
(33:46):
away with.
And I told her I'm not sayingthis is right, but this is how I
feel and I know it's wrong, butI was like there's things that
I can do or get away withbecause I know I'm.
There's nobody that can tell methat Justin is an absolute
selfish person.
Am I?
Can I do selfish things attimes?
Yes, but those are rare times,but I always put people before
(34:07):
myself, and so when I do that,there's things that I may be
less willing to budge on,because I know how many times I
made sure you were straight overme.
Yeah, so I'm so, in a way, Itry to, and it could be very
transactional, it could beperiod away, but there's things
that I'm willing and willing notto accept.
(34:28):
Yeah, and I can be very toughin situations, because if I am
working more to make sure you'restraight then there's less
grace on your half.
You know what I mean.
Yeah, yeah, that's so.
That's just kind of how itworks in my head.
I know there's a level of wrongin that.
I know that's right in that too, but there's wrong in that as
(34:49):
well, and I need to be morebetter on presenting.
That is so.
I do agree that I can be tootough sometimes.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
Sprinkle it out.
Speaker 1 (35:03):
But I knew that's what the answer you was going to
give.
I'll be surprised if you'relike, nah, you ain't tough.
I'll be like, oh really.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
I can't go harder oh shit.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
Now I can get the whips and chains out.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
We're over.
Nah, nah, the whips and chainsout.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
We're all right on time.
I got a game.
Do you got a game?
Speaker 2 (35:25):
I have one, but you're going to win.
Oh God, we can do it.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
This one's supposed to be fun, because this one is
going to be tough.
There's no way you're going toget this shit right.
All right, yeah, because I youknow I had the question already
in line, but I never reallylooked up the answers.
And then when, because Ithought I was I thought you know
that.
Well, let me give the game well, let me do mine first okay,
that sounds more interesting.
Speaker 2 (35:47):
Okay, so, uh, there's a list, uh in the us of um, of
where, like uh, ranked like the,the top 10 cities with the most
beautiful women okay and I wasjust going to ask you can you
give me five that's on that list, the top 10 cities, yeah I have
(36:08):
most of them in my new york.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
Yes, okay, um los angeles, yes, well, I mean, I'm
just naming the bigger cities.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
I know, this is what I thought about it after I'm
like you know what, but allright chicago yes okay, okay,
okay.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
So that's three atlanta, yes, boston, boston, no
, I don't think so.
San Francisco, yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
Did you know Nashville was on there?
Oh no, I didn't.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
Yeah, like on multiple different lists.
Okay, nashville was on there.
Speaker 1 (36:49):
I wasn't even going to say Nashville.
Yeah, most beautiful girls inthe country.
Okay, was Memphis on there?
That was.
That sounded a little shadyjust giving my history about.
I actually think that I meanand maybe it's more of a black
(37:11):
woman thing.
They y'all got one of the mostbeautiful women black women
there is.
I just think so in general,like now when I went to cordoba
high school I was like oh yeah,cordoba, yeah there was a just a
lot of beautiful black women,yeah yeah, it was just yeah.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
Those schools, those on the outskirts, yeah yeah,
yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:25):
So that's just the reason why I said that uh-huh
and yeah, but then of course youknow it's majority white
country.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
So that just makes sense.
Oh right, yeah, yeah, yeah,yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:34):
Without Nashville?
Yeah, exactly.
Exactly, and what you're goingto find attractive is really
what I'm saying, because you'relooking through white people's
lens.
So, they're not going to sayMemphis.
So I was just really kind ofthey're not, you know what I
mean yeah, so mine is of thatlist.
This is actually Let me justgive the game.
So this is the top fivecountries With the highest
(37:58):
divorce rates, and I'm going tohelp you out a little bit.
But it's just going to be alittle guess Whatever country
you're thinking about, it's notit?
Yeah, yeah, so I thought, soI'm going to give you one that's
not on.
Yeah, yeah, so I thought, youknow, I just so I'm gonna give
you one that's not on the list.
United states is not on thelist that was my first one, yeah
(38:20):
exactly, then that's actually.
I was shocked yeah, for realthough yeah, um, so this is per
1000, and so it's based on mostrecent global data from 2021
through 2023 where do people goto cheat?
(38:41):
I'm gonna go with divorce Idon't think you're gonna get one
of these damn you know theseyou?
Know some of these countries,but you're not gonna get it.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
And I'll help you out Spain.
Speaker 1 (38:55):
No.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
London.
Speaker 1 (39:09):
No.
Speaker 2 (39:11):
Is it somewhere in the UK?
No, yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:14):
Then it'll be UK on those or England.
So you said a city.
Speaker 2 (39:21):
Yeah, I'm not the greatest at that.
Speaker 1 (39:24):
So there's nowhere in North America.
Speaker 2 (39:27):
Nowhere in North America, mexico, that's it.
Speaker 1 (39:31):
That's North America, north or South America.
How about that?
Speaker 2 (39:42):
Hmm, I'm going to start throwing shit out there.
Tokyo.
Speaker 1 (39:45):
That's the city, but you're still wrong.
It's not Japan, it's not evenAsia I mean, asian-ist is one of
them, but they're more centraleurope mostly.
But it's actually kind of tougha little bit.
Uh, give you one.
Um, I'm gonna give you this onebecause you're not gonna guess
(40:07):
it.
Speaker 2 (40:08):
Kazakhstan why did I know you was gonna say that
really, oh god, what the fuck.
I should have said that umthat's number two in the world.
Speaker 1 (40:21):
Pakistan that's the only stand you got on the list.
Afghanistan was next um uh,thailand no uh, thailand, no, no
Asian country, like that shit.
Greenland nah, I feel likeyou're out of guesses.
(40:47):
I think I'm out of guesses.
So number one is Maldives.
Yeah, how would you ever haveguessed that?
And that's just consistentlythe highest worldwide, so it's
like unanimous and it's leading.
Kazakhstan is number two,russia is number three, belarus
is number four, belgium isnumber five.
(41:09):
Where's Belarus?
It's up there in like, likeclose to Russia, I think.
Belgium is like the midpointbetween Germany, germany, france
or something like that it's inthat whole Central Europe.
So the reason why I divorcewhile Maldives is like number
(41:34):
one, divorce is legally simple,simple and affordable.
Yeah, so social acceptance ishigh, so it's just like regular
divorce is fine it's easy, yeah,exactly.
Kazakhstan and other formerSoviet states like Russia and
Moldova, is no-fault divorcelaws evolving social norms and
(41:54):
economic pressures.
That's very vague, and Belgiumand other Western European
countries, as financialindependence and gender equality
contribute to easierdissolution of marriage.
Speaker 2 (42:10):
Socially accepted.
Yeah, yeah, so it ain't evenknow like um.
You know how the the phrase ischeaper to keep her yeah they
don't even go through this, yeahexactly so, even with united
states.
Speaker 1 (42:25):
So this is like three percent.
Uh, maldives is 5.52 per 1000.
Uh, united States is 2.7 to 2.8per 1,000.
So it's significantly lowerthan a lot of these countries,
just because it's extremelyexpensive to get divorced here.
Yeah, yeah, so that's kind ofreally why we're actually lower.
(42:47):
Because we're actually lowerthan China.
Speaker 2 (42:51):
Really.
Speaker 1 (42:52):
Yeah, china is 3.2.
China is more strict.
Yeah, exactly With, really yeah, china's 3.2.
Speaker 2 (42:57):
With everything.
No, I didn't know that?
Speaker 1 (43:00):
That was cool.
Speaker 2 (43:01):
That was a good game.
Speaker 1 (43:02):
Yeah, really good.
I think we can kind of wrap itup here yeah.
Hold on.
There's one thing we actuallydidn't talk about.
We can finish here.
I wanted your take on uh besimone uh huh.
Speaker 2 (43:20):
I just saw a post of her response of um, the
conversation that she had withher friend, and in the response
it said watch the whole thing.
But um, and in response it saidwatch the whole thing.
But I've been seeing so manymemes of like other people doing
(43:40):
it.
It's too funny.
It's just like there was onewith this girl and she was like
she was like yeah, and then mycar broke down and the other
girl was like Jesus, I lost myhouse and my Jesus.
That was too funny.
Speaker 1 (43:58):
Yeah, yeah, that definitely the internet gives
her no grace.
Oh yeah, no, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (44:05):
That was the perfect thing for her online presence.
Yeah, for people to just tag onto something, yeah, but what do
I think about it?
Um, I I from the clip, from the, from the clip alone.
(44:27):
Clearly, I did not watch thewhole thing right, but the clip
that is being circulated aroundviciously, um, it just sounds
like.
It just sounds like it paintedthe picture of making her look
like she was just thinking aboutherself or you know, like this,
this, this person that like Idon't know that, that that can
(44:49):
come off as like jealous aboutnot having, because it was, it
was a two-part thing.
Right, it was like the girlended up having some type of
success or whatever, and then beSimone was like she, she wished
(45:11):
it.
You know, it was both of theminstead of just her.
Speaker 1 (45:14):
I never saw that clip .
The one that I was saying shewas not giving no grace for was
her choosing H&M overBloomingdale's because she was
broke.
What, yeah, that's the one.
Speaker 2 (45:27):
What you talking about B Simone.
Speaker 1 (45:29):
Yeah, she was like I'm giving a general statement.
That's not what she said.
She wasn't saying I'm broke,but she was like she didn't have
the same affordability as shehas in the past you talking
about the friend?
no, b Simone saying that likehey, I was looking at
Bloomingdale's and I was lookingat the price of Bloomingdale's
and like damn, we're gonna haveto go to H&M.
You didn't see that video?
(45:51):
Okay, well, we'll.
I think we just need to brushgo to H&M.
You didn't see that video?
Uh-uh, okay, well, I think wejust need to branch upon it and
we're going to keep thisconversation for next week.
Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (45:59):
You don't know about the friend and like basically
telling her about how her lifewas terrible and then she was
friends with B Simone.
Speaker 1 (46:09):
No.
Speaker 2 (46:10):
And she was listing all these things and then he
smokes like wow, like likeclearly she could have helped
her.
Speaker 1 (46:19):
Oh, oh no.
Speaker 2 (46:20):
I have to see that.
No, that's literally what.
Speaker 1 (46:23):
That's not what I've been seeing.
Speaker 2 (46:25):
Yeah, maybe, yeah.
Speaker 1 (46:28):
And this sounds like it's the same podcast.
Yeah, yeah, maybe.
Speaker 2 (46:30):
Yeah, well, we got some things to brush up on,
because I have a separateconversation.
Speaker 1 (46:33):
This sounds like it's the same podcast but yeah, yeah
, maybe I don't know, yeah, yeah, well, we got some things to
brush up on, because I have aseparate conversation versus
yours.
And we're going to just save itfor next week.
Yeah, we can do that, all right, for sure.
Well, this is Justin Devanteand Steve.
Ray All right, we two for theculture.
We'll see y'all.
Speaker 2 (46:52):
Peace.
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