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Ever find yourself at the crossroads of curiosity and thirst, yearning for a path sprinkled with laughter and deep dives into the craft beer world? Our latest episode is a frothy mix of both, as we share tales from Two Roads Brewing in Stratford, Connecticut, and dissect their Lil' Heaven Crushable IPA and the casino-collab Jackpot Juice Hazy IPA. We're not just about the suds, though; join us for a round-table discussion that hops from the comedic genius of Conan O'Brien to the camaraderie and competition brewed by beer passports and trivia nights.

But it's not all hops and giggles. As, we explore the serious side of brewing, discussing how Two Roads not only crafts a mean beer but also leads the way in contract brewing opportunities. We then take a sobering turn to reflect on the sustainability initiatives of this century-old factory turned brewery, sharing how they're pioneering in green practices from solar fields to water conservation. It's a conversation that pours out insights on resource conservation, all while still maintaining the flavor of our favorite brews.

We then navigate through the more intricate landscapes of border security, immigration reform, and the daunting reality of child trafficking. This episode isn't afraid to address the bitter notes of today's pressing social issues, balancing the heaviness with a lighter froth of human versus grasshopper leaps and the intoxicating fact about global inebriation levels. So grab your favorite pint, and let's toast to an episode that's equal parts enlightening and entertaining.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:12):
And welcome in everybody once again here in the
two guys and beer podcaststudio, the palatial estates,
the studios of two guys and beerpodcast, andy Beckstrom with
Sean Field here for anotherepisode, as we get into the
teens, for episodes here.
Today we're going to be talkingabout two roads brewery out of

(00:33):
Connecticut.
They're out of Stratford,connecticut, so that should be a
good time to come along with uson that one.
But Sean, back at it.

Speaker 2 (00:43):
We are back at it More beers, more beers.
It's been a few weeks.
We took a few week break.
Now we're back at it here.
We spent some time putting thestudio together a little bit
more so we can get ready to do avideo podcast so all you lovely
beer masters out there can lookat our ugly mugs on the face
there on the YouTube.
And it's been a good few weeksto take a break and kind of

(01:03):
catch up and reset and get somethings put together to keep on
rolling.

Speaker 1 (01:08):
Two roads brewing is what we're going to be talking
about today.
They have the two roads breweryin Stratford, Connecticut.
They also do Flavortown spiked,which I believe is mostly just
like ready to drink mixedcocktails as what it appears to
be.
But that one's a connectionwith Guy Fieri in that one,
which, by the way, I've kind ofrealized that our podcast is

(01:29):
almost kind of like DinersDrivers Dives, where we try some
of their food, but we're reallytalking about the business more
than anything Pretty much.
We're kind of like that a littlebit.
If you ever get a chance to.
There's a comedian that did athing years ago that I thought
was just absolutely hilarious.
Sean Torres was on Conan is thename of the guy Absolutely

(01:51):
hilarious.
But he kind of goes off likehis whole bid on.
That.
One is like and why do peoplehate Guy Fieri in the first
place?
He is a national platform togive people free business and
doesn't get anything for it, butyou don't like him because he
looks like he drinks MountainDew and stuck his finger in a
socket.

Speaker 2 (02:08):
I think it's that bleach, blonde dyed spiky hair.
I think that's what did itRight.
That kind of gives you the badvibes.
That was from the early 2000s,late 90s, I think that's kind of
.
It's kind of like Nickelbackfor some reason Nobody likes
Nickelback but they put outbangers left and right and left

(02:29):
and right, but nobody likes them.
I think it's the same thingwith Guy Fieri.
It's got to be that spiky beachbond.
It must be.

Speaker 1 (02:35):
Yeah, it must be what it is.
But yeah, if you ever get achance to listen, to look at
that clip of Shane Torres onConan kind of goes off about Guy
Fieri, that's it's absolutelyhilarious.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
I kind of miss Conan.
I like that show Conan.
Yeah, he was pretty good.

Speaker 1 (02:48):
I liked it, especially like when he went to
was it TBS or whatever he wentto, Because it felt like when he
was on NBC as the late night,late show, when he was late,
late then it was hilarious, thenit was good.
When it was the night show, itbecame nope, you have to fit
within this tight little package, and it became almost awkward
in a way Almost the audience wasdifferent to the 10 o'clock or

(03:09):
10, 30 or whenever it came on.

Speaker 2 (03:11):
I think that kind of maybe had a problem with how he
delivered his stuff Right.

Speaker 1 (03:17):
And then when he went to cable it was kind of like,
well, I can just be me, I canjust be who I am, and I think
that, just I think it changednight and day.

Speaker 2 (03:24):
No restrictions and stuff.
Exactly so I think that wasfantastic.
I wonder if he has a podcastnow, does he probably does?
He probably does.
I feel like he does.

Speaker 1 (03:32):
He's got something going.
I'm sure he's got all sorts ofstuff going on.
So let's see here what do wegot here?
Take the road less traveled.
That's the kind of the theme orthe logo, not logo.
What is it?
The jingle, the tagline for tworoads brewing.
That's kind of what they haveas far as their deal.

(03:52):
Taking the road less traveled,the one that I have is going to
be the Lil' Heaven Crushable IPA, 4.8 by volume.
I don't see any otherinformation here on the can, but
yeah, lil' Heaven Crushable IPAis what I got today.

Speaker 2 (04:10):
Perfect and I pulled out out of the two roads back
here.
It's called Jackpot Juice HazyIPA, so you hit the jackpot with
this one.
Hopefully it's actually incollaboration with Mohegan Son,
which we kind of chatted about alittle bit as an Indian tribe
out there that owns the casinoand it says on here everyone's a
winner with this Hazy Juicy IPABrewed in collaboration with

(04:33):
our friends that Mohegan Son.

Speaker 1 (04:36):
Mine doesn't have any explanation, so yours is more
fun.

Speaker 2 (04:40):
It is fun.
Let's see if it hits thejackpot here when we try it.

Speaker 1 (04:43):
Although I'd be willing to bet, though, on their
website they probably got someinformation on Lil' Heaven.
Let's hear it.
Yeah, here we go.
Named after a hidden room inour century old brewery building
where factory workers used togo and take their break stirring
shifts.
Lil' Heaven Crushable IPAcontains tropical fruit notes
balanced with just enough maltcharacter to make this one

(05:03):
Halava heavenly brew.

Speaker 2 (05:05):
Perfect.

Speaker 1 (05:06):
So yeah, I guess it's got some information there.

Speaker 2 (05:10):
Secret room.
They were taking their breaks.

Speaker 1 (05:13):
Seems weird to me.
No, this is your break room.
Is it like that movie?
Was it Employee the Month withDean Cook, you know?
Or they're like kind of.
I always wanted to do thatyears, 100 years ago, you know.
We all worked at Walmarttogether and we had a lot of
backroom area to be able to workwith.
I always wanted to do that likekind of rearrange where some of
the stuff was done On the topsteel up there Could have

(05:34):
absolutely done that.
Go up there, yeah, 100%, yeah.

Speaker 2 (05:36):
Yeah, that was a pretty funny movie with Dean
Cook.

Speaker 1 (05:40):
On the website.
It's just exactly what you saidon the back of yours for the
jackpot.

Speaker 2 (05:45):
Just a jackpot.
Hit the jackpot.
I like casinos.
They're fun, absolutely.

Speaker 1 (05:51):
I don't usually gamble, though, so I'm not much
of a I'll go.
I'm absolutely.
They're fun to be around.

Speaker 2 (05:58):
I like being there, it's the atmosphere, the sights,
the sounds, the lights.
You know people going crazywhen they win.

Speaker 1 (06:04):
Absolutely.

Speaker 2 (06:05):
I think people go crazy when they lose everything
they have.

Speaker 1 (06:07):
Sometimes that's almost more fun.
The people watching is justabsolutely fantastic when you
get there.
So let's see here.

Speaker 2 (06:15):
Well, I suppose we're going to get the first track.
Track it open.
I'm getting some cotton mouthhere.
Here we go, hit the jackpot.
Jackpot.

Speaker 1 (06:25):
Juice, hazy, ipa, I think you got some whoa kind of
overflowing a little bit here.
I got a little bit on ourscreens over here.
That's pretty good.

Speaker 2 (06:34):
First couple of sips I do like it in the first couple
of sips Jackpot juice, hazy IPAOf course.
Like I said earlier, it sayshit the jackpot on the can.
I think for a Hazy IPA it hitsthe jackpot.

Speaker 1 (06:49):
Nailed it.

Speaker 2 (06:50):
It kind of tastes a little juicy, almost kind of you
know a little bit of grape typejuice flavor in it.
There is definitely a juicesomething in there, on the
palate for sure when you drinkthis.

Speaker 1 (07:03):
Yeah, this one.
It's got some tropical feel toit, but I can't put my nose on
exactly what it is, but it'svery, very smooth.

Speaker 2 (07:11):
Yeah, this is pretty smooth too.
When you smell it, you candefinitely smell some sort of
juice in it.
Like to me, it smells likethere's a little bit of grape
juice in here, or grape orsomething.
Maybe there isn't, that's justwhat the what the scent is.
I'm getting in the aftertastethat I'm getting my crushable
IPA.

Speaker 1 (07:31):
It's it's an IPA in name but I don't really get a
lot of hops out of it.
It's kind of light down those.
So it's, if you like somethingwith some flavor and some feel
to it, but not a lot of hops,not real hoppy, this might be a
good one.

Speaker 2 (07:45):
It is Same thing with this one.
I agree with you there.
It is not hoppy at all for anIPA.

Speaker 1 (07:51):
A little bit of malt.
It does the description withsome malt character definitely
get a little bit out of that.
So it's good stuff.
So let's see here, stratford,connecticut, that's, that's
where we're going All the richpeople yeah, Connecticut.
Yeah, well, that's where the netthe Stratford wives never seen
that movie.
Let's see here.

(08:13):
Two roads isn't just the logoin our building, it's our
philosophy.
Life seems offer up two ways togo and just so happens we
prefer the one less traveled,and having some fun along the
way in our lives or careers, andespecially our beers.
Now for the road less traveledphilosophy being brought to life
in beers that we create and howwe create him.
That's what they say on theirwebsite, so that's kind of what

(08:34):
their thought is.
That's when you know kind ofwhere you're going from Two
roads, in kind of an old Formerfactory that's there for friends
that dreamed of starting it upin 2012.
I foster the philosophy in thebeers in that spirit.
Phil Markowski, a award-winningbrewmaster and 27 year craft
beer veteran.

Speaker 2 (08:57):
I don't know who you're talking about, but that
name, that last name, what'sthat last name?
Phil Markowski, what's that?
Monsters ink movie, oh Mike wasout.
That's the first thing Ithought, and I thought of the
old lady with the glasses sayingwhatever.

Speaker 1 (09:11):
I.
That's the first thing Ithought of when you said so.
Macaus gave you brew your beer.

Speaker 2 (09:27):
So you know you're thinking of it too there we go.

Speaker 1 (09:30):
That's I can see, you know, like I can see her just
right at the end there.
I don't remember what her namewas, but that's.
That was great.
So, phil, he was a brewmaster,27 year craft beer veteran and
created an extensive lineup thatcreates Unique twist on classic
beer styles, named one of the10 best breweries in America by

(09:50):
paste magazine.

Speaker 2 (09:52):
Sound like a magazine that would be a paste beer, but
no, I've never heard of anypaste making of any kind of
years I remember the paste I atein grade school, out of the can
, it's true.
It's probably made out ofhorses.

Speaker 1 (10:04):
Elmer's base exactly.
Let's hear one many awards,including gold for the Belgian
lambic style In Ales in 2016 atthe Great American beer festival
.
That's nice.
How was a?
So I went to trivia just theother day to a brewery here kind
of up the road, and they weregiving away different prizes

(10:26):
throughout the course of thething or whatever, and my niece
actually want a Hot passportfrom them that they had nice and
it's it's buy one, get ones,and it's something like 130
breweries or something like that, something crazy.
But if you're the first one tocomplete all of them and turn it
in, you win like $1,500 and anentry to the Great American beer
festival, which is, I believe,in Denver.

(10:48):
If I remember correctly, it'sin Colorado.
I know that much.
I think we've talked about alittle bit before on some of our
other Episodes, but greatAmerican beer festival, nice,
big competition and I'm guessingthere's a little bit of beer to
be able to drink so little yeah, yeah, so that's kind of
something kind of fun.

Speaker 2 (11:03):
But why aren't we buying these passports and
winning first place?
Well, yeah, no, no, no well see?

Speaker 1 (11:08):
well, apparently, like the same guy has won it
like two or three years in a row, and he's usually gets it
within the first couple ofmonths.

Speaker 2 (11:13):
So we're already doing it in like three weeks.
We can just drive to thebreweries like stamp, stamp,
stamp, stamp and that's what Itold her.

Speaker 1 (11:20):
Well, I mean we're not gonna skip out on the beer
part.

Speaker 2 (11:23):
We got a stamp.

Speaker 1 (11:24):
That's what I told her.
I'm like research anddevelopment, exactly our indeed,
we're gonna write this off aspart of the you know what we're
doing here.
So I told her this.
It was Saturday that we wereout there and Came back here and
you know Everybody had like oneor two more just kind of
relaxing and talking about youknow the week and we were
planning the in-laws anniversaryparty and all the other stuff
or whatever and we're like allright, we got to get on this

(11:46):
thing.
So we, going on the North Shore, we're gonna go up to Grand
Marais, get to Luz and hit likeyou know eight, nine breweries
tomorrow.
And she said yeah, and thenthey showed up here and we just
had Sunday coffee and we butthat was the plan we were gonna
get you know like eight to tenout of the out of the way, right
off, right off the bat.
But such as life, you know likeright, all the best laid plans,
but it is a great thing.
I used to have like not thisparticular one, but you know we

(12:08):
used to get one, probably likethree, four or five years ago,
and we try to get to a bunch ofthem because, as I mentioned
before, involved in the breweryrunning series.
So I'm going to a lot of thesebreweries, which is always kind
of fun.
So you sign up for the run andthe run would come with one or,
depending on you sign up for,like the gold, or however you
signed up, you might get twofree beers as part of the
registration.
So if you have the two freebeers part of the registration

(12:31):
and then you buy one and youhave the passport, now you get
four for the price of one.
Wow, let me tell you, somebodyelse is driving home.

Speaker 2 (12:41):
I would hope so.
Yeah, isn't always bad.
I was drinking.
Drive people.
Yeah, don't drink.
And drive.

Speaker 1 (12:44):
Absolutely don't do that, Don't get in at any of
that.

Speaker 2 (12:47):
That's the disclaimer for the episode.

Speaker 1 (12:49):
Drink responsibility, Yep friends don't let friends
drive drunk always bringsomebody else to drive you
around Because you're gonna havethose four and then you can
want to go to another placeBecause you still have the
passport and you got to get moreplaces.

Speaker 2 (13:01):
So the passports, buy one, get one at every place,
right?

Speaker 1 (13:04):
Yeah, I thought so yep, so yeah, pretty soon six
becomes eight, we should getthem to let us sponsor them on
our show.

Speaker 2 (13:10):
I'll do a little advertisement about them, and
there we get some kickback.

Speaker 1 (13:14):
I like that.
I think that that's a brilliantplan.
We'll make this happen.
I'll have my people talk totheir people and by my people
will be one of us right, we willtalk, and I think they're good.

Speaker 2 (13:28):
In like 26 states or 28 states have a hot passport.
Okay, for specific states.
Yeah, yeah this one me on theexact number of states, but I do
know you can get one fordifferent.

Speaker 1 (13:40):
Google it right now, no, this one had, so this one
had.
I was like 125 or somethinglike that or whatever, but
there's probably 10 of them thatwere not Minnesota, so they
actually added them.

Speaker 2 (13:50):
Usually they're like just.

Speaker 1 (13:51):
Minnesota, but it put a bunch, a couple of them like
superior Hudson, I think therewas one or two in like Iowa or
something, because they're, Imean they're kind of bordering,
you know.
I mean, you know it's.
I think there was one, it waskind of random though that was
in like Kansas City, butotherwise everything else was
like on the border of Minnesota,you know.
I mean like Grand Forks orsomething like that.
So, which is some point timewe're gonna be talking as

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speaking Grand Forks, fargo area.
Drecker is on the list here.
Come on the list.
At some point in time.
If you're listening out thereon the podcast, make sure when
you go to liquor store next timego and pick up some Drecker,
and then you'll be ready for thenext episode perfect at some
point time in the future.
So I'm still kind of windingthat one up just a little bit.
So, uh say, to do all thesesocial media platform for that

(14:36):
up and coming, but for now we'llcontinue drinking this IPA.

Speaker 2 (14:40):
This is a very good IPA to drink.
I have no problems with thisjackpot juice hazy IPA.
I would drink definitely a lotmore of this.
In fact, this IPA is so tastyand light that I would probably
drink a few of these after Imowed the lawn for four hours.
And hot and sweaty, becauseit's that like light of A taste,
light of a beer, not heavy andthick and for an IPA.

Speaker 1 (15:03):
Are you taking shots at peak course?
Sure, are you doing.
Call back to an episode youknow earlier.
So two roads moving furtheralong, their their website here
a little bit.
If you go to their website totwo roads brewing calm Talks a
lot about what they do, a lot ofwhat they have for beers, their

(15:23):
contact page.
They actually have anopportunity where you can do
contract brewing, which is kindof an interesting thing.
They have the ability.
You basically have aworld-class facility and a team
dedicated to make your stuff butat the same time they're still
Small townish or at least that'skind of the thing.
They're not Coors or they'renot Miller.
It's it's a different kind ofdeal.

(15:44):
So if you have something youwant to be able to try to expand
as a brewer, you can be able todo that without having to like
upscale all of your equipment.
You can actually, you know kindof pay to be able to work that
out.
So kind of a little bit of adifferent deal with that.

Speaker 2 (15:57):
That's pretty cool, especially if you're a home
brewery, you know, and you wantto try to get out there a little
bit or have a larger capacityTo make your stuff.
They actually partner with abrewery to use their equipment.
That's pretty cool.

Speaker 1 (16:10):
They are owned and managed by the beer industry
veterans.
They are the first brewery tobe designed, built and staffed
to offer contract services,including craft beer,
barrel-aged Heartseltzer and RTDor ready to drink cocktails.
So that's kind of theFlavortown deal where you're
gonna get like a vodka Lemonade,you know, or vodka cranberry,

(16:30):
like that kind of thing, or likea fruit punch kind of deal.
So in 2020, combined productionof two roads in the contract
brands made them the 19thlargest independent brewer,
according to data compiled bythe Brewer's Association.
So they've definitely expandedquite a bit with what they, what
they've been able to offer overthe course of the years.

Speaker 2 (16:50):
Nice.

Speaker 1 (16:51):
Nice, the leadership founded by four partners with
over 75 years Brad Hittle is theCEO work for a LeBat and Papst,
papst.

Speaker 2 (17:01):
Yes, their chief.
Yeah, some good, that's someheavy hitters right there, I
haven't even heard of a LeBat,and for a while I would assume
they're still making beer andthey're out there, if not
somebody.
I'm sure, owns their recipesand stuff.

Speaker 1 (17:13):
We may have to go up to Bemidji to get it, but right,
I'm not beyond the road trip,that's not something that is on
my wheelhouse Phil McCarvus key.
Mike was out ski Been brewingcommercially since 1989.
Prior to that he was at NewEngland Brewing Company in South
Hampton Public House, wondozens of awards at the Great
American beer festival and WorldCup medals World beer cup

(17:37):
medals, I should say now.

Speaker 2 (17:37):
World Cup.
He was not a soccer player.
Oh, so maybe a soccer ball, notthat level football.

Speaker 1 (17:43):
Chief commercial officer Clem Pallani Worked with
Brad at LeBat and Phil at NewEngland Brewing Company, so some
connection right.
There also had sales rolls atEJ Gallo, which I believe is
wine.
Hmm but I mean it's sales, sosure.

Speaker 2 (18:01):
I don't drink wine.
I think all wine is terrible.
I've tried numerous red winesand white one.
I just I'm just not a wine guy.

Speaker 1 (18:08):
After I've had a few I'm willing to try even more.
But Generally there's onlyabout one kind of wine, like if
I want a cruise or somethinglike that, like I'll have.
Like, oh, there's only one thatI'll order and it's the only one
that I'd like Built up enoughtaste so that actually kind of
enjoy it.
When I go to Ligur store, Idon't I don't ever go to the
wine section.
No, like I'm gonna have asauvignon blanc, but if I'm on

(18:29):
cruise then it's like, well,that's the thing I know.
I'm wearing all nice get up andI'm ordering a flaming yawn.
I'm gonna get something kind ofInstead of a blue moon.

Speaker 2 (18:39):
You know Light on the table, yeah, so.

Speaker 1 (18:48):
Phil and Brad and Clem.
Who else joined the crew?
Peter Doring, chief financialofficer and chief operating
officer.
Career in finance before oh wow, he had a career in energy
finance before joining directorD e R e K T, o, r, so director

(19:08):
shipyards as.
Coo and CFO, so a Little bit ofa different path to get.
Everybody else has got a lot ofbrewing background, so he goes
from shipyards to energy, tobrewery.

Speaker 2 (19:23):
Yeah, no, he's a CFO for a brewery.

Speaker 1 (19:25):
I mean, that's probably kind of like how a lot
of people like myself At somepoint.
I want to have a bar, I want tohave a sports bar.
I could do this.
It'll be maybe a project when Iretire, oh, and how it's here,
oh, okay, I have the opportunityto do that.
So why wouldn't you try to dothat?
You know, give her a shot.
Then they have a manager ofoperations, brian Holinger.
So a lot of people that areinvolved with that process

(19:47):
through different leadership.
Located in Stratford,connecticut, ideally suture a,
situated to serve customers anddistributors through the
Northeast and Mid Atlantic area,and Approximately give or take
12 or 13, there are about ahundred million people within
500 miles of Stratford.

(20:07):
Wow, so not a very, not a verybad to be able to.
You know location to be attheir quarter mile off of I-95,
so they're right on easy to beable to get to and get in and
out of 56 miles to Boston.
So a lot, of, a lot ofopportunity to be able to do
that.
Let's hear the contract side ofthings two large manufacturing

(20:28):
compliance manufacturingfacilities on nine and a quarter
acres totaling 125,000 squarefeet is what they have between
the storage, storage buildingsand the manufacturing facilities
.
So that's kind of crazy, likehow much they have 225,000
square feet.

(20:49):
Okay but they do lease anadditional 21,000 square feet
Across the street for overflowstorage needs.

Speaker 2 (20:57):
So those combined are like the size of a small
Walmart.
Then, mm-hmm, yeah, 140,000square feet.

Speaker 1 (21:02):
So which, if you think of all of the stuff that
Walmart's have in there and youknow it seems kind of small when
you go into something like that, but if it's only beer and it's
only one brewery, a lot ofspace.
That's a lot of beer you couldbe able to put in there.
Main building was constructedin 1911, additions in 46 and 54

(21:22):
and then in 2012, when two roadsbought it.
They gutted it, cleaned it,painted it, did new floors,
drainage and electrical systems,as well as boilers and lighting
.
So a lot of work that they didwhen they first got it, and they
also have area to which istheir innovation center hmm, it
is located at the bookends withthe main facility and it houses

(21:45):
the pilot brewery, along withseven 100 barrel fermenters, an
abundant barrel aging and folderaging infrastructure and its
own dedicated lab.
No, they have.
They have a lot going on overthere.
I think it'd be kind of fun tobe able to go and check that out
at some point in time.
Don't say that out loud becauseAmanda's already like you guys

(22:07):
gonna want to do road trip outthere.

Speaker 2 (22:10):
That's fine yeah you know why not who's opposed to
road trips.

Speaker 1 (22:13):
You know why.
Would you get, let's hear,brewing system is sold in 2012,
state-of-the-art and use aBromit Siemens based system, and
on their website they list allof their details.
Brewhouse is an automated fiveone hundred barrel system.
They can, let's hear, up to200,000 barrels per year,

(22:37):
depending on product mix.
So they got all sorts ofdifferent things.
So, about anything you wouldwant to be able to do.
So if you want to upscale or upsize what you have as far as a
distributorship, especially ifyou're on the east coast, this
is something you'd want to beable to get in that way, you
don't have to buy thatinfrastructure.
You can just alright, here'swhat we're gonna do.
If nothing else, you could dothat for a couple of years while

(23:00):
you build up yourinfrastructure with that influx
of capital and be able to dothat.
So they got canning lines,bottling lines, kegging lines
and and all sorts of warehouses.
So lots of stuff to be able tofind on just on their contact
page.
That's all.
This is all stuff that's juston their general website that
they have.

(23:20):
So a lot of really cool stuffthat you can find on there.
So what else do they do?
Well, they make good beer, bythe way, and drinks.

Speaker 2 (23:28):
Yeah, they do make real good beer.
Again, this jackpot juice ifyou can get a hold of it
somewhere, two roads whereveryou live, try it.
It's good stuff by the mix pack, the IPA mix pack that we have
here it's definitely worth a try.
This jackpot juice, hazy IPA Ididn't mention his 5.8% alcohol
volume, but we did talk aboutthat.

(23:49):
It is collaborated with theMohegan Sun Indian tribe, which
is pretty interesting.
What they've done with the NBAWNBA I'm sorry, wnba Nobody
really pays attention to a wholelot, let's be honest, but those
WNBA players are highly skilledand they're very good,
absolutely Tremendous ballplayers pulled some cool stuff

(24:11):
up about the Mohegan Sun and howthey actually purchased the
WNBA team and brought them upthere.

Speaker 1 (24:16):
Yeah, I didn't, I was .
I thought at one point in timethat the Connecticut Sun played
At the Mohegan Sun casino and Ijust thought initially I'm like,
well, it's just, they have anarea to be able to do that.
They'd be kind of a coolAttraction for people going
there.
In a way, it's kind of like youknow Vegas, you go to shows,
you know it's kind of one ofthose kind of deals that, right,
this is our draw to be able toget people here.

(24:37):
Well, that is part of it, butthat's only a small part of it.
It actually turns out.
I didn't know this.
Probably maybe I did at onepoint time in my life, but
sometimes I drink beer andforget things.
And so it actually was theOrlando miracle.
That was a team when the WNBAfirst started.
They spent a couple of years inOrlando as the sister franchise

(24:57):
to the Orlando magic, afteryears of some issues with
financial Problems and whatnot,which I think that there's
especially early on.
I think there was a lot of thatwith the WNBA which, yeah, is
gonna happen with just about anystartup kind of leak.
You've seen that with the US FLor the XFL now twice, or the
what was the other PFL or thedifferent things that they've

(25:17):
had.

Speaker 2 (25:17):
Yeah, they just don't draw the revenue that
established exactly franchisesdo or established leagues do.

Speaker 1 (25:25):
And so they, you know , kind of ran through some
issues there and so they werekind of on the verge of kind of
folding up shop and so theMohegan Indian tribe actually
purchased them.
So it's actually the tribe thatpurchased the Connecticut Sun
or the Orlando miracle and movethem to Connecticut and then
renamed them the Connecticut Sunand have a play there.

(25:45):
So they're actually a tribalowned Organization, which I
thought was kind of a basketballthing.

Speaker 2 (25:51):
Yeah, I remember the Orlando miracle like we were
talking.
I remember the name in the WNBAbut of course I don't follow
the WNBA too closely to knowthat they were about to fold or
they got bought and moved toConnecticut Sun.
I wouldn't even have knowntheir land or miracle was around
at one time till you brought itup.
But when I thought about it I'mlike, oh yeah, I do remember
there was a WNBA team in Orlando.

(26:12):
I just had no clue.
It moved up to Connecticut andI always have known of the
Connecticut Sun Because, if Iremember correctly, Lindsay
Whalen was drafted by a goodsign.

Speaker 1 (26:22):
I was just gonna say that was.
It was a.
It was one of the first coupleof years that they moved to
Connecticut Is when they draftedher.

Speaker 2 (26:28):
Lindsay Whalen play out there for a few years before
we we somehow acquired her.
I don't know if we traded for.

Speaker 1 (26:33):
Yep, we traded for so that was that was what I was
reading on here was the.
It was very Controversial evenwhen they drafted her, because
they assumed that what we'regonna draft her and just trade
her to Minnesota right away,which would be a little bit
weird, because if there's nottrade equity there, why would
you just do that?
You know, for whatever.
But they drafted her anyway andshe played some high-level

(26:54):
basketball there for it Was likesix years, I think.

Speaker 2 (26:57):
She was there that?

Speaker 1 (26:57):
long she was there, yeah, and then they were kind of
they peaked and had a lot ofplayoff drama within their team
and, you know, there wereinjuries and just stuff going on
and they started kind of goover the edge and so they were
just like, all right, we need tokind of reset.
And they traded and try to makea bunch of different deals, you
know, to be able to fix thingsa little bit to a certain extent
, and that's how we ended upbeing able to Weasel Lindsay

(27:19):
Whalen out of Connecticut youknow, of course she's in the
WNBA Hall of Fame.
It was a release of one.

Speaker 2 (27:25):
Four titles with the Minnesota.
Lynx was a star for theMinnesota Golden Gophers.
Now Did the Connecticut Sun wina title with her.

Speaker 1 (27:34):
I don't think that did yeah, I have to yeah, I'd
have to go back and Check my outof records here and then with
the Golden Gophers.

Speaker 2 (27:42):
Didn't we get to the final four with her?
Yeah, we got to the final four.
We lost with her and.

Speaker 1 (27:48):
Janelle McCarville and I don't remember a single
other person was on thatparticular team but I don't know
.

Speaker 2 (27:53):
They were good that year and Janelle McCarville got
drafted into the WNBA too.
Yeah, she played a handful ofyears, but she didn't have
nearly the career no then sheplayed a couple years at the end
of her career with Minnesota aswell with the Lynx.

Speaker 1 (28:05):
Mm-hmm, let's see your rise to prominence.
They defeated EasternConference.
Finals ruled on their run wouldend.
They lost to the Seattle stormand 2004 they must add Sue Bird
back in 2004.
Yeah, I think so yeah, 2005.
They acquired somebody and hadto deal with injuries and they

(28:32):
lost.
They had a home court advantage, but they lost in the finals in
four games in a, the best offive, okay.

Speaker 2 (28:41):
So I thought she played in the finals with
Connecticut.
But, like I said, I don'tfollow the WNB 8 too closely, so
I don't I can't say for certain.
But I did follow it a littlebit closer when she played here
at the links with my Amor andSimone Augustus and we just
dominated for about eight yearswhen we won four titles and went

(29:01):
there what six times with fourtitles.

Speaker 1 (29:05):
That was a whole lot of fun they lost in an upset in
the Eastern Conference finalsthe following year and then in
2007.
Just a Dismal kind of year, butthey were able to battle back
into play-out position.
And Then let's hear game oneagainst the fever.
They had a 17-point lead in thethird quarter, which, if you've

(29:25):
ever watched an NBA game,doesn't mean anything until the
last five minutes of the game,which is a little aggravating to
me.
Yeah, but they raced back toforce overtime.
It went three over times, firsttime that happened in WNBA
play-off history.
Son eventually won it, but thefever won the next two games and
eliminated him from theplayoffs in 2007.
So, yeah, it looks like theyhad a kind of a high point there

(29:47):
for five.
And then it just kind of allfell apart kind of after things
with that.
And let's see here when didthey trade?
Trying to find where theytraded.
Yet 2010, they traded LindsayWhalen.
They snagged the first overallpick With the from the links.

(30:09):
So that's what it was.
We had the first overall pickGotcha.

Speaker 2 (30:12):
Yeah, definitely worth it for us.
I mean, we only won four titleswith her, so yeah perfect.

Speaker 1 (30:18):
Hard to say if you got really a good return on
investment with that one.
So yeah, that's a tough one.
Yeah, she's a Hall of Famer.

Speaker 2 (30:24):
So yeah, Charles Barkley introduced her to the
Hall of Fame too which is prettycool, that man's a no-go ahead.
Yeah, he has no filter.
I mean, he probably has a smallone because he has to, but he's
pretty filter-free, even he'scommentating.

Speaker 1 (30:41):
FCC balance.
That's about it beyond that,right?
So a couple of things I want tomention about two roads here
before we kind of delve off intoLa La Land and everything else.
So one of the other things it'sreally big for them.
The moment that they built that100 year old factory, they
immediately decidedsustainability was going to be a

(31:03):
priority, and so they startedtrying to reuse parts of the
factory to be able to do some ofthe things that they're doing.
I mean that have now worked abunch of green initiatives in
2014.
They added a 70 panel solarfield.
Nice provides high-temperaturewater for production needs.
They preheat to brewing waterand cover 100% of the heat

(31:24):
requirements for canning,restrooms and kegging lines.
Even in winter, a sunny dayyields a surprising amount of
energy.
So kind of interesting.
They do a lot with waterconservation.
They use eight gallons of waterto brew one gallon of beer, or
the typical brewer uses Eightgallons of water to brew one
gallon of beer, which is verybizarre.

(31:44):
Why that would necessarily beBecause anytime that I've brewed
as a home brewer, you usuallyuse six gallons for five gallons
of beer.
So I don't know what they'redoing with the rest of their
beer, or if I don't understandthe massive production side of
things, but again, that'ssomething that Brandon might
have to be able to bring to thetable on that one.

(32:05):
So it's a little bit differentwith that, but they only use six
gallons for it, so they save alittle bit of water that way.
A lot of the equipment comesfrom Europe and they use clever
methods for conservation.
For example, a bottling linereuses filters and the water
used to rinse the bottles priorto filling, so they reuse a lot
of the sure water.
That's happening, and the cleanin place system used to clean

(32:29):
the brewing equipment was alsoanother place that they save
water.
They capture, rinse water andreuse it for the next cleaning
job, therefore Reducing theamount of water right and
wastewater that they're puttingin the the sewers as well, so
Saving a lot with theirelectricity.
They have a lot ofhigh-efficiency LEDs, advanced

(32:49):
network lighting controls, smartLED lighting is used throughout
the facility and breweries thatautomatically dims or brightens
according to the ambient lightthat's out there, so it's able
to be adjusted as it goesautomatically.

Speaker 2 (33:02):
A lot of companies seem to do that now.
Big corporations do.
A lot of retailers do that.

Speaker 1 (33:08):
Let's hear, and they have installed dozens of VFDs or
variable frequency drives Torun the pumps or motors and it
only runs as fast as needed andthen shuts down when it doesn't
need it, so saving a lot ofenergy there.
Waste water they created a fairamount of wastewater, but it's
a combination of yeast grainsolids, rinsing water and

(33:29):
alkaline solutions.
Contains a lot of biologicalOxygen demand from live yeast
and trace amounts of brewingminerals, so they use that to
keep their bio reactor runningsmoothly as it breaks down
solids and wastewater.

Speaker 2 (33:42):
Yeah, you need that bio reactor functioning properly
.
You know you don't want that toget out of out of bio.

Speaker 1 (33:48):
I had a little bit of that over this course of the
weekend.

Speaker 2 (33:50):
It was a bad day.

Speaker 1 (33:52):
Let's see here A lot of steam used during the brewing
process.
They use that for steam boilersto be able to, you know, try to
do some heating and some oftheir natural gas uses.
So they save some money withthat and also use less Bustle
fuels.
I guess to a certain extentthat to be able to heat the
brewery, heat the tasting roomsand then just Random elements

(34:13):
throughout the entire building.

Speaker 2 (34:15):
Yeah, it's interesting about this.
It seems to be a common themewith breweries.
You know we talked about acouple episodes ago Boulevard
brewing and out of Kansas Citydoes so much conservation type
of stuff there and renewableenergies and Things like that
and we talked about with the fattire.
You know that beer from thatbrewery out in Colorado, a lot

(34:36):
of renewable stuff, conservationTechnology there.
The stuff's definitelyinteresting that the technology
and the the processes go to saveenergy.
It's kind of fascinating kindof how all that works.

Speaker 1 (34:48):
You know like so many different breweries.
They also they're spent grain.
A lot of places will send it tolandfills, but so many
businesses and I really likethis they send it to farmers
average 500 tons per month thatthey send to a dairy farms right
, you know cattle farms ofdifferent sorts.
You know I've seen it go to alot of pig farmers, a lot of
things like that.
So I like pork they do a lot ofthat.

(35:10):
Absolutely, it's absolutelyfantastic.
I like bacon, bacon, goodbacon's fantastic.

Speaker 2 (35:15):
I do think bacon's a little bit overrated.
You know, for a while there hadthis brief Moment like what ten
years of everything?
Was bacon, bacon, this baconAll right, you're over doing the
bacon a little bit, right, youknow, like me, some bacon.
Yeah, but now does myeverything my malt from Burger
King.

Speaker 1 (35:31):
We had the bacon chunks in there like okay, got
too far.

Speaker 2 (35:35):
I'll carry it away with the bacon.

Speaker 1 (35:38):
Let's see here what else say.
They got the last littlesection here.
They reuse a lot of stuff.
They did six hundred thousanddollars worth of cleanup when
they bought the building.
So how you think about theinvestment on the front side,
like you're talking about amillion dollars just to get the
building going.

Speaker 2 (35:54):
Right before you even clean before you remodel.
I that's just to get it cleanedup ready to build unreal.

Speaker 1 (35:59):
They had a clean up contaminated soil, asbestos,
lead paint with a state grant.
They were able to get somemoney to be able to help pay for
some of that and be able torenovate the building.
But most of the pieces you seein this tasting room are
actually from the old factoryand other sources, so that way
they're not Just throwing thingsaway a to have that history
there but also be less wasteonce again.

(36:21):
So they use a lot of that.
Panels in the bar in thetasting room are made from old
wood from the factory that wasthere.
Some of the wire spools on thetables are used from the old
factory tasting rooms.
At area 2, which is they theLab, if you will, it has a bunch
of tables that are made fromwood that was Reclaimed from a

(36:43):
church that was in the area aswell.
So lots of stuff going on there,trying to be able to reuse a
lot of stuff and being able toJust try to help the environment
to a certain extent, or atleast I shouldn't say help in a
very.
I always think it's funny whenpeople are like, oh, it's ego
friendly, like I don't know thatanything is ego friendly.
I think it's just less equalharmful, is more so what it is.

(37:07):
So, yeah, they do a lot ofthings or whatever to be able to
help with, trying to be able toHelp the planet or at least not
harm it as much.
So, yeah, a lot of goodinformation there from two roads
brewing, as I mentioned, theair other could they're kind of
connected with the Flavortownspiked, which doesn't have a

(37:29):
whole lot of information ontheir website, just shows a
press release that Guy Fieri hasa Line of malt beverages with
two bro, two roads brewing,flavortown spiked is what they
have.

Speaker 2 (37:42):
So you know that they were a very sound buddy.
Flavor town sounds like a song,like somebody's gonna make a
song is gonna be calledFlavortown they probably could
you think so like a pop song ora rap song or something.

Speaker 1 (37:56):
I like it.

Speaker 2 (37:56):
We should do that we could work on that in between
episodes.
That's what we'll do, and thenyou can sing it for everybody, I
will I won't, I won't, I won'tdo that.

Speaker 1 (38:05):
Maybe, if I have the, the road to ruin double IP.
I will start then we'll starttalking about doing some singing
.
So I look forward to that.
I you know, I just can't wait.
So yeah, that's kind of theinteresting.
That's all the information thatwe have here.
There's also a really goodarticle I won't go too much into

(38:26):
it, but it is really goodarticle on good beer hunting
comm.
That talks a lot about Mike wasout ski, I mean Phil Markowski
about his background and whatthey're doing with the brewing
and what they have there.
So I kind of recommend it.
He spent 18 months of traveland research to be able to write
a book and Spend a lot of timein Belgium and learned a lot

(38:48):
about brewing from there as well.
So kind of an interestinglittle read there.
So if you get a chance to checkthat out, definitely power ski.

Speaker 2 (38:57):
Mike was out ski.
Are you done with your reports?

Speaker 1 (39:02):
So yeah, so that's kind of the recap of two roads
brewing nice.

Speaker 2 (39:07):
Yeah, it's good beer.
Go get yourself some two-roadbrewing absolutely.

Speaker 1 (39:11):
Yeah, let's see here.
What else do we got going on inthe the world of Since we're
talking about two roads here.

Speaker 2 (39:19):
I've got two roads we can talk about kind of let's
Kind of get a little political,but we're not because it isn't
the Republican thing or aDemocrat thing, but it's a
pretty big thing.
I need to crack the double IPAhere before we get to the world
right now that a lot of peoplearen't talking about, or at
least mainstream media isn'ttalking about it, but of course
all your independent newsmedia's.

(39:39):
Let's talk about the borderwall or border down between us
and Mexico.
You know if you haven't beenpaying attention.
Of course Texas has been tryingto secure the border themselves
because the federal governmentis not obeying the federal law
and Stopping an invasion if youwant to call it an invasion from
that country.
They're literally.
The border patrol is literallyLetting the illegal immigrants

(40:02):
being released Into the countrynow.
So let's chat about that.
But anyway, what's your wholetake on the border wall thing?
I'm glad Texas is doing whatthey're doing.
Arizona joined, 27 other statesjoined, to send resources down
there to stop this, because theBiden administration is not and
again, this isn't RepublicanDemocrat thing, this is just
basic law versus not law.

(40:23):
The law says Legal immigrationis illegal and you cannot do it.
But our or the press, theadministration running the
country, doesn't want to doanything about it.
So I'm proud of the states thatare doing it, but the same time
, we need to have some sort ofreform through Congress, in the
Senate, to like these peoplethat want to come to this
country and do it legally.
It needs to be a quickerprocess.

(40:44):
Yes, you know these peoplecan't sit on these lists for
eight, nine, ten years to try tocome here and have a better
life.
We need to get people processedthrough a quicker, through a
judge, and get themDocumentations.
They can work and pay theirfair share taxes like the rest
of us.

Speaker 1 (40:58):
They can come here and try to Survive and live a
good life like the rest of usand that was what I was gonna,
exactly what I was gonna saythat, again, not making it, you
know, into a political thing, toa certain extent, just a
welfare thing, and even awelfare Just of the country in
general is you got to know, like, who's getting there?
I mean, businesses dobackground checks, everybody

(41:18):
does something like that.
You know, if you, it doesn'thave to be something where we're
taking five years to be able todo these background checks.
Granted, it's a little harderwhen you're going to countries
that don't have the proverbialinfrastructure to be able to
track some of that stuff.
So it does make a little morechallenging, but at the same
time, I will 100% concede toanybody that complains about it,

(41:40):
the point that you're makingthat the process is as About as
cumbersome as it could possiblytakes forever.
Yeah, if it's something that do,I think that there should be
people just streaming freely.
I do not know, we don't havethat, even coming from Canada.
I'm not not in, people arerunning away from Canada, but we
still have the same thing.
We still have border protection.
We still have, if you're likethere's at one point there was a

(42:03):
thing on CBS Sunday morning,because, yes, I am an old fella
and I do like watching CBSSunday morning, but there was a
bus that would actually have togo to.
I believe it was like theNorthwest angle or something,
which is like you got to gothere either by water or through
.

Speaker 2 (42:15):
Canada again.

Speaker 1 (42:17):
But they would have to stop at a phone booth, call
in the names of all the kidsaround the bus and then be able
to proceed and then do it againbefore getting to the school,
and so it's something like thatthat we have all of these things
in place.
If, if it's done the right wayand that's the biggest hang-up
is that it should be done theright way and people should have
to be able To go through somesort of process and be able to

(42:40):
get all of these things, becausethey're getting all of the
protections and all of thethings that are Beneficial about
being in this country, thatthat we enjoy, but at the same
time, they're skipping like alot of the things.
And, granted, do we lose all ofour rights when we do something
illegal to a certain extent, butyou're still extended, you know
a bunch of rights when you'rein jail and things like that,

(43:00):
and you can.
We can get into all of thepolitical discussions about that
, but I will 100% say I Trulybelieve that there should be.
Whether it's a wall, I guess Idon't care if it's a wall or
something, because you canalways get around a wall, you
can dig, you can go over, youcan cut them, take a boat around
the edge.
There's so many different waysto be able to do that.
People have been coming fromCuba and barrels.

(43:23):
Right makes you have raps sothere's always going to be a way
, but I don't believe that itshould be just completely wide
open.
However, I do think that theprocess needs to be fixed.
It should not take years,especially if somebody has a
legitimate case for some sort ofpersecution, whether it be
family or my family justhappened to have a section of

(43:46):
land that the cartel was movingin, and Well, they killed my
husband by lopping his head off,and, you know, they gave us one
chance to run, and so we tookoff.
Right, that might have a littlebit of a case.
Instead of throwing them in acage, let's try to expedite some
of that.
How do you do that?
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (44:04):
That's part of why.

Speaker 1 (44:05):
I don't run for any political office.
I don't have the answers.
I identify that there'sproblems and they think that it
should be fixed.

Speaker 2 (44:10):
The problem is both Republicans and Democrats.
They can't agree on anything.
They always vote down partylines.
Nobody crosses the aisle toMake a common sense Solution to
something like the immigration.
Reform needs to happen.
It needs to happen quickly andpeople just can't wait that long
to become citizens.
You know.

Speaker 1 (44:29):
If anything.

Speaker 2 (44:31):
Give them work visas so they can work, you know, and
pay taxes like everybody else.
It's just not that difficult.
But you know, politicians seemto make everything difficult for
Republicans and Democrats alike.

Speaker 1 (44:42):
Every, every single decision in the end by a
politician is made for politicalreasons.

Speaker 2 (44:48):
Oh and.

Speaker 1 (44:49):
I think that that's I'm not.

Speaker 2 (44:50):
I'm not supposed to be.
That's the problem, absolutely.

Speaker 1 (44:53):
And that's what it kind of makes me.
It reminds me a little bit of awhat was the?
Trying to remember the exactquote.
But again, you know, if we'retalking into your politics or
whatever, I'm gonna fall back onthe West Wing because that's my
level of politics.
You know TV show but at onepoint time they made the comment
that Politics gets in the wayof actually accomplishing
anything.

(45:13):
If you want to be able toaccomplish anything you take,
like 14 people that areRepublican, 14 people that are
Democrat.
If you want to submit a page,whatever it is, you lock them in
a room with all of the issuesand Nobody gets to talk about
why they voted a certain way orwhat they voted for.
They just make the decisionsand Come out as a group and say

(45:37):
this is what needs to be done orthis is what's happening and it
can't be politicized, andthat's the only way you'd be
able to get anything done.
Now.
Is that any chance?
That's gonna happen?
Absolutely not.
It'll never happen.
But at the same time, like,that's one of the things that
you, like, you can't make.
And I feel like at one point intime in my life, you could get
stuff done, you could do thosethings.

Speaker 2 (45:57):
It was very political , but you could still get things
done slow, but it happens yeahespecially within the last
probably 10 plus years.

Speaker 1 (46:05):
You're not.
If you say that you're aRepublican, or if you say you're
a Democrat, people willquestion you about all the
things that you believe andstuff like that, and then you
are not Deemed worthy becauseyou are not Republican enough
right, you're not democraticenough and you.
You can argue with me If youwant, but look at what is
happening with nationalelections.

(46:27):
That's what's happening rightnow, that something to yeah, and
it's like if you can't getsomebody that can bring people
to more to the middle, we'renever gonna get anything
accomplished.
It's just not gonna happen.
You're gonna have to wait untilone side has the majority and
we're starting to see it nowwhere it's one side has the
majority and then they fixeverything that half the people
want and mess everything up thathalf the other people want, and

(46:49):
then it pendulum swings to theother side and it's a clear
majority by everybody for theother side and the same things
happen on that side, and thenit's just bickering back and
forth.

Speaker 2 (46:59):
And then the problem is the majority versus the
nonmajority.
So slim it's like 52 to 48,yeah, 51 to 49, you know.
So it's not like it's a massivemajority or a massive minority
of voters.

Speaker 1 (47:11):
It's almost 50 50, you know it's pretty crazy,
which is why it's alwaysmind-boggling to me that when
we're getting somebody that'sgoing to be again Democrat,
republican, whatever they'regoing to be the quote nominee of
something, we're still pickingsomebody that has to be so
extreme on the edge of that,because we don't want them to

(47:32):
try to agree with anybody.
We don't want that.
We don't want that party tocome over here and try to
dictate what we're doing,because then you look soft,
right and it's like, okay, ifit's 50 50 and you're not
willing to acknowledge the otherside, then you're just a moron
and I will put that on a bumpersticker Right now, like that's
just.
I just don't understand, wrapmy head around that and it's, I

(47:56):
don't know.
It's part of why I've hatedpolitics I just don't want to be
involved in because it justdrives me.

Speaker 2 (48:01):
It makes everybody mad and there's so much of it
that's common sense stuff onboth sides that both have good
common sense ideas but neitherother side want to come to a
resolution.
You know, like the border wallthing and processing immigrants
faster, that needs to happen.
We need to have a wall.
I do believe we just can't havehundreds of thousands of people
coming over every month.

(48:21):
We just can't support it.
You know, the sanctuary citiesnow New York and stuff are
coming out complaining Becausethey can't support them.
Well, no crap, you know, wejust don't have the resources to
support hundreds of thousandsof people coming over constantly
.
But if we have a wall to slowit down but process people
faster so we can give them aspot to go and papers to go and

(48:41):
papers to get the jobs and thereneeds to be social services
available to be able to get down.
Up and right away.

Speaker 1 (48:48):
Yeah, if you, if you're just like, okay, you just
breeze right on through and nowwe're gonna dump you in Santa
Fe with you're now on the streetnow.
Now you're a bus, bye, it's noteasy to become unhomeless you
know, and that's a wholedifferent argument but it's not
easy to get out of that becauseeven just going to a job
interview Okay, well, now youdon't speak English, or even if

(49:09):
you do, maybe it's a little bitand you're dirty and you're
wearing same clothes You've hadon for three months, right
Ripped in, torn and maybe evensome blood on it from stuff
you've gone through.
And now you're trying to beable to have an interview and,
granted, this is for, like,pushing cards at Walmart or
something like that, but at thesame time, what are the odds

(49:29):
you're gonna be able to getsomething like that?
Well, it makes it tough and thenif you do that, does that help
get you somewhere?
You know, I mean, like, theprocess to be able to advance
yourself in a way, to be able tomake yourself sustainable,
isn't easy.
It's challenging.
You can make the argumentwhether it should be or
shouldn't be, but it's not easy,you know it's especially when
you're fleeing to a differentcountry.

(49:50):
It's that much more challengingand there's just not that
structure available for it right, and what's really just talking
about this?

Speaker 2 (49:58):
I'm gonna open another one.
And what's really disappointingabout all this?
And we can't process immigrantsfaster, but we can't have them
float across, so we need a wall.
What was taking advantage ofthis is the cartel.
They're making hundreds ofthousands of dollars, if not
millions, charging these peoplesaying they'll bring them across
the border, and they do, foreight thousand dollars ahead and

(50:18):
ten thousand dollars ahead.
You know I've even seen videosonline of the cartel on the
other side of the wall, likegiven a salute as they let
people go through the gate.
You know I'm thinking how manywomen get raped along these
journeys when you have tens ofthousands of people trying to
come and how many have died.
And child trafficking?
You know that's, that's huge,but nobody ever wants to talk
about child trafficking.
You know which is Not evenchild trafficking.

(50:41):
We'll call it human traffickingor a better term for it.
That's not politically arcedslavery, because that's what it
is.
You know you can still buyslaves today, if people aren't
aware of that.
You can go over to Middle Eastand actually buy one on a market
today, in 2024, which doesn'tever seem to get talked about.
But that's what's coming acrossthe border is.
You know, women are gettingraped and Kids are getting

(51:01):
trafficked.
It's crazy Like we need to stopthat, not have this notion of
an open border so they'll stopthe cartels from bringing people
over.
But if we can actually getpeople processed quicker, if
they come here through legalcheckpoint quicker so we can
process them faster, that shouldhopefully Eliminate the whores
that some of these people haveto go through just to try to get

(51:22):
here and try to have a betterlife.

Speaker 1 (51:24):
Even mitigate just a handful of it.
You know, if you can lessen it,do something I have.
It should be processed.
You know there's enough.
There's enough wealth in thiscountry To be able to do some of
these things, and I understandthat that means more taxes and
more financial burdens orwhatever you want to say money
properly, because the governmentdoesn't spend money properly,

(51:45):
let's leave.

Speaker 2 (51:46):
the money is already taken and exists, they just
choose not to spend it properly.

Speaker 1 (51:50):
That's a flat-out fact right there.
Yeah, that's I don't know.
I spent time in Florida walkingaround a different place over
there.
Let me tell you there's somemoney available.
So, yeah, I I don't know.
It's good thing this one's adouble.

Speaker 2 (52:06):
That's really all I got about that, you know.
I just thought I kind kind oftied in with two roads.
You know there's roads downthere, one on this side of all,
one on some of that side of all,depending on where you're at on
each side of the River.
But Seeing it on the news andsocial media like it seems so
simple for most averageAmericans to figure this out.
You know.
But why our federal governmentisn't doing anything about it?

(52:27):
When it is the law, they'rebreaking the law.
You got states that are tryingto enforce the law.
You got politicians, senatorsand congressmen that don't do
anything about it, barely putany bills forward.
It's pretty sad all the wayaround, you know.
It's just.
It's kind of heartbreaking.
This is supposed to be thegreatest country in the history
of earth and we're dropping theball, man hardcore powers.

Speaker 1 (52:51):
A hell of a drug, and if you come up with a political
stance, it's not popular.
You lose that drug money, power, greed.

Speaker 2 (52:58):
You know it's crazy.

Speaker 1 (53:00):
It's.
It's a hell of a thing.

Speaker 2 (53:01):
So all right, I got a fact for you you want to fact
now?
I think.

Speaker 1 (53:04):
I got another fact for you too, but I'll let you go
first.

Speaker 2 (53:06):
Disappointing political.
Well, it wasn't reallypolitical talk just common sense
stuff.
You know, after a couple beerswe can figure out solutions, and
all this stuff We've talkedabout that before we were gonna.

Speaker 1 (53:16):
We have an app for a how to respond to your wife, or
something, didn't we?

Speaker 2 (53:19):
were gonna do something like that.

Speaker 1 (53:20):
That would be cool too.
That was probably a terribleidea.

Speaker 2 (53:24):
Ideas only get better with more beer.
They never never bad ideas.
All right, so here we go.
So here's the crazy fact I cameacross the other day.
If humans could jump like agrasshopper, grasshoppers can be
aggressive.

Speaker 1 (53:38):
That would be aggressive.

Speaker 2 (53:40):
Humans could easily jump the length of an entire
football field if we could jumplike a grasshopper.
That's unreal.
Can you imagine jumping 300feet?

Speaker 1 (53:49):
I I could imagine jumping it, but I think that my
knees would say no, because thelanding I'd have to superhero
land like.

Speaker 2 (53:57):
Seeing some human just fly into the air, oh, my
god, that'd be unreal kind ofreminds me that movie jump.
Or you ever watch that moviejumper?
Yeah, that was.

Speaker 1 (54:08):
We've here and appear here.
It was kind of an interestingconcept.
I feel like it was kind of alittle bit weird the way that
they did it and I guess I'm notthe biggest Christian's and fan,
but that was pretty solid movie.
A little bit of Sam Jackson inthat one too.
Yeah, that was pretty good,good for fact.

Speaker 2 (54:23):
you got over there, did you know?

Speaker 1 (54:25):
I know a lot of this.
This almost seems like I'llknow a little bit more after
another drink of this thispertains to that.
Even to it, almost in a way,seems a little low to me, but I
guess, I don't know, have anyframe of reference at any point
in time.
0.7 of the entire world'spopulation is drunk.

Speaker 2 (54:49):
That's hilarious.
That is the coolest fact Ithink I've ever heard.

Speaker 1 (54:54):
So just in case you wanted to know, you know 0.7%
point seven tire world like.
Is drunk.
There's a part of me that feelslike it's almost a little bit
low, just because at any pointin time.
I mean, I guess I don't knowhow many people would be drunk
in the Twin Cities right nowbecause bars are open or
whatever.
But we're getting closer to theway we're recording the podcast
.
We're getting closer to youknow, nine, ten o'clock or

(55:16):
whatever.
At some point time it's gonnabe nine ten o'clock in another
time zone right and that's gonnakind of travel the world.
So is that 1% of the populationwhere that time zone is like on
a Monday?
Well, I don't know, we're nottaking that.
I would like to know thisinformation.
On a Saturday, friday, saturday, stats are a little bit

(55:37):
different, that's.
Maybe that's where I'm thinkingit's.

Speaker 2 (55:39):
I don't think you'll be jumping the length of the
football field if you're one ofthose 0.7% Of the world
population.

Speaker 1 (55:45):
No it might be one of those like a foosball, football
field, like something like that, you know, or maybe one of
those.
What was the old?
You plug it in, you know, andit vibrated.
The little plastic guys.

Speaker 2 (55:58):
Oh, the football guys , yeah, something like that.

Speaker 1 (56:01):
Like that's probably, that's probably more likely, so
perfect, well we hope youenjoyed today's podcast.
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We talked about how many peopleare drunk on the planet.
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So, sean, I think further.

Speaker 2 (56:53):
No, thanks for listening everybody I really
appreciate, and God bless youall and until next time.

Speaker 1 (56:58):
This is two guys.
The beer podcast Cheers you.