Two IPs In A Pod
Brilliant inventions, fresh product designs, iconic brand names and artistic creativity are not only the building blocks of successful business - they deliver a better world for us all. But these valuable forms of intellectual property must be protected in order to flourish. We are the Chartered Institute of Patent Attorneys - the UK's largest intellectual property organisation. Our hosts Lee Davies and Gwilym Roberts chat with entrepreneurs, creatives, patent attorneys and the occasional judge about how patents, trade marks, designs and copyright can improve our lives and solve problems for humanity.
Episodes
On our last episode, we are stepping into the world of global intellectual property advocacy as we sit down with Margaret Polson and Lauren B. Emerson from the American Intellectual Property Law Association (AIPLA) during the INTA conference in San Diego.
Our next guest to join Lee and Gwilym in our San Diego Pubcast is Rob Jackson. Chair of CIPA's UPC Committee, takes us on a captivating journey from his unconventional entry into patent law to his passionate advocacy for UK patent attorneys' involvement in the Unified Patent Court system. With refreshing candor, he reveals how a suggestion from his mother, a legal secretary, and his childhood interest in wha...
Lee and Gwilym were joined by Michael McLaughlin, Patent Attorney at McLaughlin IP Pte. Ltd., for this INTA Pubcast special. Ever wonder what happens when engineering expertise meets international IP law across multiple continents? Michael's twenty-year journey from electrical engineer to Singapore patent firm founder offers a fascinating glimpse into the possibilities of a global IP career.
To start off our San Diego Pubcast special, Lee and Gwilym sit down with Vicki Salmon. Vicki never planned on becoming a patent attorney. While preparing for a career as an accountant after studying natural sciences at Cambridge, a chance conversation with a neighbor who happened to be a High Court judge changed everything. "I think you should have a look at patents," he suggested, introducing her to the pro...
This episode captures a fascinating conversation between UK and Canadian intellectual property experts exploring the unique challenges and innovations in their respective IP systems.
The discussion dives deep into Canada's uncertain landscape for patentable subject matter, where inconsistent case law and examiner interpretations create significant headaches for businesses seeking protection. Unlike Europ...
Step into the fascinating world of global intellectual property protection with Charles Randolph and Brian Beckham from the World Intellectual Property Organization (WIPO). What begins as an annual update on WIPO's activities quickly transforms into a revealing conversation about the organization's far-reaching influence on the intellectual property landscape.
Charles, who heads WIPO's industry...
Alex Gray and Asa Le Fustec from RightHub join us to reveal how they're disrupting the IP management industry with their fresh approach. After spending decades navigating the limitations of legacy systems at companies like CPA Global, they decided to build something entirely new – a comprehensive platform that leverages modern technology to eliminate the inefficiencies that have plagued IP professionals for years...
The upcoming INTA 2026 in London has us dreaming of pub quizzes, battle of the bands, and podcasting from double-decker buses, but before that excitement, we're diving into the world of intellectual property services with Andre Andrade and Emma Browning from RWS.
These fascinating guests share remarkably similar stories of finding their way into IP through language skills, Andre as a Portuguese, Spanish,...
What happens when podcast hosts become the guests? This delightful crossover episode brings together the worlds of "Two IPs in a Pod" and INTA's "Brand & New" as we welcome host Willard Knox for a behind-the-microphone conversation about the art and craft of intellectual property podcasting.
Lee and Gwilym are joined in the Pod Box by Heather Steinmeyer, who shares how her journey to becoming INTA’s Chief Policy Officer began unexpectedly in 1980s New York publishing. There, she gained valuable exposure to content creators and author rights—experience that would later prove foundational to her IP career.
Her fascinating trajectory, which includes time in both corporate and private legal practice before ser...
Lee and Gwilym have landed in San Diego for the INTA 2025 Annual Meeting! Elisabeth Stewart Bradley, INTA President and Vice President of Innovation Law: Trademarks, Copyrights, and Brand Protection at Bristol Myers Squibb, shares her journey from English literature major to IP lawyer, and how the organisation is evolving to support its members in a rapidly changing landscape. Her Presidential Task Force is focused on...
From helping Scotch Whisky manufacturers by protecting the name in Brazil to working on the IP aspects of the UK's Government's reset in relations with the European Union, the work of our IP Attachés is varied and complex. Lee is joined by his deputy Neil for this deep dive into the important world of global IP diplomacy and trade. Attachés responsible for Southeast Asia, China, Latin America, North America,...
It's Mental Health Awareness Week and Lee and Gwilym are joined by Penelope Aspinall from the Jonathan’s Voice charity, along with Joanne Donaldson (HLK), Cathy Bailey (UK Intellectual Property Office) and Sally Bannan (Cytiva), for a powerful discussion on the vital mental health training that the charity provides for line managers in IP firms. The group explores how this training supports healthier, more compas...
The vital intersection between academia and real-world intellectual property practice takes center stage as Lee and Gwilym welcome Enrico Bonadio from City St George’s University of London. His unique journey from IP litigation in Milan to academic research and teaching offers powerful insights into how theoretical and practical perspectives on intellectual property complement each other.
Bonadio reveals how his litig...
Join Lee and Gwilym for an engaging conversation with Keven Bader, Chief Executive of the Chartered Institute of Trademark Attorneys, who shares his personal journey in the realm of intellectual property. They discuss pressing issues, such as the increase of unusual trademark filings and the critical need for collaboration among professional organizations in the field. In a world where technology and innovation are co...
In this episode of Two IPs in a Pod, Lee and Gwilym are joined by Natasha Bamu from Barron Warren Redfern to explore the world of Trade Mark Genericide—what it is, how it happens, and the steps brands can take to prevent it. Plus, Gwilym puts a few word games to the test, with some unexpected results!
Join us for an enlightening episode as we explore the multifaceted theme of Equality, Diversity, and Inclusion (EDI) within the patent profession. Hosted by Lee Davis and Gwilym Roberts, we are thrilled to have guests Greg Iceton and Alexandra Wood share their insights and experiences, shedding light on important EDI concepts and their impact on modern workplaces.
In this episode, we unpack the difference bet...
Our latest podcast episode dives into the intriguing journey of Tom Bridgewater, CIPA Honorary Informals Representative who transformed his physics and robotics expertise into a rewarding career in intellectual property. Tom shares valuable insights about the challenges of transitioning to IP, the importance of supportive training, and the role of organizations like CIPA in fostering community among members.
Join Lee and Gwilym for an enlightening conversation with Ray Naughton from NEG8 Carbon, a pioneering force in the world of carbon capture technology. Ray takes us on a journey from a humble research project at Trinity College Dublin to a cutting-edge enterprise nominated for the 2025 Earthshot Prize. Ray and the peas discuss how innovations might reshape industries by turning captured CO2 into valuable products like ...
Join Lee and Gwilym as they welcome Lewis Parle, an IP insurance expert, who shares his fascinating journey into this niche field and helps unravel the complex, yet critical, aspects of insuring intellectual assets. They discuss the challenges of insuring against infringements, and the importance of asserting IP rights. From the challenges posed by Non-Practicing Entities in the IP landscape to the critical role of IP...
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