October 3, 2025 • 30 mins
Rick Hill appeared on the Two Mikes show to discuss his experience with apricot kernels and their connection to what some claim to be a cancer treatment. The claims behind this is that Laetrile, or Vitamin B17, a compound known as amygdalin found in apricot kernels, is a natural and effective treatment for cancer. This substance supposedly works by specifically destroying cancer cells while leaving healthy tissue untouched. There is a suggestion that the medical establishment has been suppressing this information for a long time. The advocacy is that individuals can use the kernels or supplements containing B17 as a way to both prevent and treat the disease, asserting it is a long-standing, powerful, natural remedy that patients should be free to choose. This of course should be done with extensive research and under the care of professionals in this field.
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said he is, and that's Rich Hill and Rich Welcome
to two mich your time on. Tell us a little
(03:58):
bit about you and what you want to speak about.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Okay, thank you, Mike and Mike looking forward to this.
My story is unique for just two reasons. One, it
was a long time ago. It was in the early
days of this whole movement when I decided to leave
the Mayo Clinic without having chemotherapy or radiation that were prescribed,
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and left and went to Tijuana, I know, Tijuana, Mexico,
and then was very vocal about it. When I got home,
having written books and given speeches, the American Cancer Society
came after me to try and discredit me, used to
(04:49):
run articles in newspapers that say I never had cancer
in the first place. So I wrote the Mayo Clinic
and I said, the American Cancer Society as a q
there's you of wrongdoing there. It is sign well stationary
at the Mayo Clinic, huh yeap and signed by the doctor.
(05:10):
There's a signature and it just says this. I'm not
going to read the whole letter. Those that have asked
whether you actually did have cancer in the first place,
you are entirely right. You add stage three high grade
a little like stage four high grade embryono South Carsonoma.
(05:32):
So not lying to you, I got the proof because
so many people wanted to believe that what I did
couldn't possibly have worked, including the Mayo Clinic. And if
you think I'm ugly, now, that's what I look like
fifty years ago at the Mayo Clinic. That's a gastric
tube going from my nose down into my stomach. Not pleasant.
(05:58):
And I was on morphine I one hundred and twenty
pounds and the chemotherapist told me bring your family in
it's time. I was twenty four years old, we'd been
married only a year and a half. My wife was
just expecting our first You know, your life can go
from zero to sixty in a minute, and it can
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also go from sixty to zero in a minute. Oh.
I had three bizarre events happened to me that encouraged
me to answer the question what were you thinking leaving
the Mayo Clinic? Where are you serious about this? And
the first one, quickly is that I was at the
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Mayo Clinic and they told me that I was going
to start chemo on a Monday, and this was a Friday.
That day, I got a letter in the mail for
ten cents doamp and that ten cents Stamp pulled it out.
The letter said, dear Rick, if you want to Lee live,
(07:07):
you've got to leave the Mayo Clinic. Pastor John Valentine
signed it, and I thought, mind your own business. I mean,
you're not a doctor. I know about this, probably what
you know. But he was a John Birch Society member,
(07:27):
very conservative, maga on steroids. They even wanted to get
us out of the UN in the sixties. And if
you heard the President speak this morning at the UN,
he kind of suggested we might just do that. He's
so disgusted. So I read this, I call him up.
(07:47):
I said, John, if I didn't know you're a Baptist pastor,
I think, what are you smoking? Why do you think
I need to leave the Mayo Clinic? He said, because
some clinics understand drugs, and you're at one of those.
Some clinics understand the human immune system. You're not at
one of those. I said, well, where would I have
(08:09):
to go to get to one of those places? And
he said, well, you're going to fly into San Diego.
I said yeah. Then he said yeah, you get on
a bus and You're going to go to Tijuana and
what are they going to do, going to smoke dope
or something? Yeah, what are you going to do? And
he said, well, we're going to take They take a
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derivative of apricots and they make a serum out of
it and they inject it into your vein, like right there.
And I said apricots. Huh. I said, this is a
lot for me to take home to my family. Anything else?
(08:54):
He said, yeah, I'll call a few people. I gave
you a couple of numbers, so I'm not going to
do that. But I am going to go to the
chemotherapist and I am going to say, hey, here's what
I was told today. What do you think I should do?
And he leaned back in his chair and he said,
you know, Rick, it is warm in Tijuana this time
of the year. I thought, at first, I get this
(09:16):
weird letter, you know, out of the clear blue. Then
a Mayo chemotherapist drops a hint. I mean he's not
going to say no, you got to leave now. You know,
he's got a pretty good job there, pretty good gig.
And I said, message delivered, Thanks so much, and I
walked out went home. He had dinner told my family
(09:39):
this whole story. My brother Sam Hill stood up and said, Ricky,
we always knew you were stupid, we just didn't know
how bad it was. And I said, well, thanks, Sam,
appreciate the support. Got all over.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
Rick By any chance, you wouldn't have any relatives in Virginia,
would you?
Speaker 2 (10:01):
No?
Speaker 1 (10:02):
No, the reason I say that we got round Hill
in Virginia, I didn't know if it was a relative.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
No. My folks were from Alabama and Texas.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
You know, I'm just being sarcastic round Hill.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
So you know, I called this guy and uh and
and he tells me I should I get around the table.
Everyone gave me a dirty look. That's where I left off.
My father in law stood up. He said, I like it.
(10:37):
I'll take him, and I'll help pay for it.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
Nice.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
I said, deal. Now, just like God led Abraham's servant
to the well to find a woman suitable for him,
don't say that today with any neighborhood inference. And she
was there waiting for him. Got back and another servant said,
how in the world did you make your mind up
(11:05):
to travel four hundred and fifty miles on a camel
one way to find a woman who had married Abraham's son,
and the servants said, well, I being in the way
the Lord led me. In other words, even though those
circumstances were crazy, A one month trip on a camel
(11:29):
four hundred and fifty miles with some jewelry for a
dowry maybe half million bucks.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
And possibly one hundred and seventeen degrees.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Oh, it was a miserable trip. And there you go,
and here I am. In one twenty four hour period.
I get a crazy letter, I get a chemotherapist who
knocks me down with it with a statement, and then
I get a father in law after my family's thrown
(11:59):
me away, says I like it. I'll take him. So
I being in the way the Lord led me. I
couldn't come up with a human reason why those things
three happened. Those three things happened to me.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
When that happened or not, I was That's why I'm
thinking that one.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Yeah, okay, I being in the way the Lord led me.
And here's what I want your listeners and viewers to know.
It doesn't say that I was one hundred percent believer
in this process. At the time, I had my doubts.
Are you kidding? And I was afraid I'd wake up
in the middle of the night in a cold sweat.
(12:40):
But I'm sure that the Abraham servant, halfway through that trip,
two hundred and fifty two hundred some miles into it,
on the back of a sweaty camel, thought, what was
I think? Aim I got down to TJ. It's a
big switch from the United States back in the seventies.
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And I made up my mind that day that I
was going to do whatever they asked me to do.
I just didn't know what that implied. How you want
to take a break and we'll cover that when they
get back.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
No, hang on a second. I want to say something
at this point in the show that all knowledgeable about,
believe it or not, Mexico and you know this Rick
in Panama and a couple other countries. You know, we're
playing around with an FDA that doesn't want to do
stem cell approvals. They don't want to do anything that's
the future of a medical care. And you know, Mexico's
(13:42):
way ahead of us. They already got compounds, their hotels,
resort kind of operations. You go down there and do
the stem cell and all the other stuff. I won't
tell you who the big celebrity is that went down
there recently and had his eyesight restored. But it's you know,
we laugh about Mexico in a lot of ways. Okay,
but they are so even even for dentists, right, if
(14:03):
you go down there, what is it one third the
price to get the implants and so on. They have
like compounds and you know, little cities where you get
the stuff the next day it's made. So you know,
I understand. But our country, you know, we're regulated to death.
And you know, pharma is a big industry. They love drugs.
Every other commercial at night network where you know TV
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drug Drug, Drug, and now they have like a Disney
dance when they do one of those shots in the arm.
You know, da da da, very very overweight people in
skin tight clothing dancing. You think you're on a Disney cruise, right,
and at the end you see, well here's the side effects.
Go ahead. I'm sorry, you.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Know, you're absolutely right this. Of course, this was back
in the early seventies and Leo Trell believed ME was
very new at that time, unknown other clinics, so it
was a little different landscape than today. And I agree
with you. We've actually got an agreement in the last
couple of weeks, and I've got an eight hundred number.
(15:07):
I can about that. If anybody in your tribe is
suffering the way I did, or give this eight hundred
number a call. And I won't tell people what to do.
I will tell them what I did, and if it
sounds good to them, I can show them a place
to go to get medical supervision. And I think I
(15:30):
was happy with it.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
I have the best write I have the best note
writer as a co host right now, so you could
say the number, He'll write it down.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
Go ahead, Hey, it's eight hundred eight seven seven six
seven five oh. Some days I answer it and uh,
and I'll chat with you and I'll tell you what
I think about what I did, and I can today
we can ship our products and not be in legal problem.
(15:58):
But we're careful about how we did described it. They're
adjunk like high dose vitamin C or uh. You know
Meyer's cocktails for hangovers. That's how we classified this, and
so you know, we keep our nose clean. But today
you can get good help medical supervision. I mean, for
(16:22):
less than half of what I spent when I went
down there, because it was so new they were spending
half their money on legal lawyering. Up today they don't
quite have to do that. So do you want to
see the products that they gave me?
Speaker 1 (16:39):
Your book too, I want to see your book. Put
your book on the screen there.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
All right, this is a book that I wrote. This
is the fourth or fifth edition. It's called Too Young
to Die. And this is how thick it is. All right?
Speaker 1 (16:52):
So how many pages is that?
Speaker 2 (16:54):
One hundred pages of quick read? I'll tell you what
it's got pictures, take print the whole thing. But I'll
tell you why it's important, because it gives people hope.
I'm a storyteller. I told the true story. I showed
you the letter, but the good, funny, the not so funny,
(17:15):
what happened to me. And they'll enjoy it. They can
get it free. What I took was three things. I
took B seventeen laatrill, but in the liquid form when
I was in treatment. Now I take one one hundred
capsule milligram capsule a day. One that's a three month supply.
(17:38):
And I take pro enzymes. Can you tell an old
guy is taking it every day? At ten and two?
I take two of these Because if you and I'll
tell you how you're going to get this book. I'm
in a reference free, absolutely free. And then they gave
me the pro enzyme or the pro gammic and gammic acid.
(18:03):
Those three things is all it was. Plus the diet,
get off of bad food, eat organic eighty percent raw
and uncooked. Kind of boring for a while. And detox.
They wanted me to do mile fasting and taught me
how to do what we call calonics, not my cup
(18:25):
of tea, not what I do when I have a
day with nothing to do, but still in all I
detox and I got on this program. And if your
viewers want to go to our website, which is our
n C like Rick Nancy Kathy r n C or
cat store stre dot com and up in the right
(18:51):
hand corner a little magnifying glass a search bar type
Rick and it'll come up with these three products. And
if you do that with a subscribe, which you can
cancel at any time, and people do, you'll get the
book free. You'll ship it.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
Your products manufactured in America.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Yeah, they're all and we even grow all of our
apricot seeds. We can also get this that is called
an apricot kernel, and that's what's inside the pit of
an apricot that has the healing properties in it. And
they're kind of bitter. If you don't want to take
(19:32):
the one hundred milligram tablet, take six of these a day,
just throw them in in the morning and munch them
down a little bitter. Did I say that clearly? But
you'll get used to it.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
And so it's God's medicine. It's God's medicine to mankind.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
Remember in Genesis, God said that he said, every herb
and seed I have provided for you, we quit doing that.
I mean, when people eat an apple, they don't eat
the seeds. Why not? They did? Exactly like this identical
has that bitter flavor and then kind of an amoretto finish.
(20:15):
Bakers use this stuff for amaretto muffins and all that
kind of thing. So they're over one hundred and twenty
foods that have high levels of what's called nitrilocide, the
same active ingredient that's in those vials or in the
seeds or in the capsules. Not a ton of money.
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No one's ever been hurt doing it. I've never relapsed.
I've never had any kind of chemotherapy. Or radiation.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
All these things could we say on this show with
you because you have more knowledge. But I've heard over
the years chemo is basically just taken you out. When
they give you chemo, it's pretty much what they do.
It burns you right out.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
I'm not sorry. I didn't take it right because that
chemo therapist dropped that weird statement immediately. And that's because
he knew he was going to administer at tenomyas and
D to me, and I think he believed can't prove it.
I believe he believed that it would kill me pretty quickly. Yes, Oh,
(21:29):
it doesn't kill everybody that takes it. In fact, there
are clinics out there that do low dose chemo. I
can tell you about that on the eight hundred number.
But it's a tenth of a dose and it works
really well. But there's more research. Let me give away
the free book. Here's what it's called, and I want
your viewers to have it. Well, that's the picture of
(21:52):
the book, World Without Cancer beautiful.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Griffin, I will go yes, Rich going
back to JVS one minute. Uh, they're good friends of
our show. We have them on time to time. I've
had the former president on John McManus who passed away, Uh,
the president President. We had on Wayne who is a
(22:18):
friend of us. In fact, we had him on the show.
Remember Mike, I had Wayne on with John together with us.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
I do.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
Yeah. Wayne and John McManus and I grew up within
thirty minutes of each other. I never met each other.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
I'm gonna see Wayne in about a month. He's gonna
come to San Diego to help start in East County
chapter I joined. I was at Red Phil and I
joined the birt Society. Imagine how my mind has changed
about so many things.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
Well, if they had Birch societies everywhere, people would understand
the Constitution, they would understand what Americans founding is. In fact,
now what they're promoting is they're not saying Christian, nationalist,
Christian is that they're saying, it's Americanism. And that's it.
That's the bumper stick. It's Americanism. That's it. We don't
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have to add one more word, and it's all for America.
We don't have to worry about all the other thing,
you know, blah blah blah, because a lot of these
guys are fakes anyway, and they're just trying to make
money on coining the terminology, you know. But yeah, they're
great people at JBS. You go on there, you get
all the information you want. And Griffin's been friends with
them for many, many years.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
Yeah, let me let me tell you how to get
that for free. I don't want it because some people
are saying, well, what he's Eddie free? Go on to
my World Without Cancer dot com. Just put the wordmind
front of World without Cancer dot com a thing of
spring up. Don't have to give a credit card free.
(23:55):
We will ship you a PDF, which is an electronic
three hundred page book. At first half of the book
is what is this stuff? How is it invented? And why?
Second half of the book is why did our government
turn against it? And I would answer it in a
simple phrase. You here, nobody kicks a dead dog. If
(24:17):
all of us took it wiped out, the government would
have left us alone. But when so many people like
John's father leatro case histories, the Richardson Cancer Clinic experience
sixty three case histories of terminal people that he treated
(24:38):
with exactly what I did, and they came in with
guns drawn, arrested him, put him in jail with his
nurse and took away his medical license. This is what
John Junior lived through. The guy that I'm hopefully, yeah,
you'll get on your show, but that's where you read.
(25:00):
If your people will order that free book, I'll guarantee
you it'll have every answer they could ever ask and excellent.
Put it down and go, you know what, I'm gonna
log on. I'm gonna do that. And if they log
onto our website, you have created I think, do you
have a discount qude or I can provide one?
Speaker 1 (25:20):
Oh, you can provide one.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
That's okay, well, okay. At the end of an order
on our nc store dot com website, they'll pick out
what they want and at the end it'll say, do
you have a discount quote? Put rick ten? Okay, that
means ten percent off, and that's that's a good deal.
(25:42):
This is not expensive stuff. And fifty years later, I'm
still taking it.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
God brush, Yeah, that's amazing.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
So it's a lifetime commitment. And when people get you know,
in remission and quit and say, DoD's that bullet that
is so bad because if it comes back, it comes
back and force I'm sure you know stories.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
Oh yeah, but it's amazing. That you know, we have
this natural ability with God's help of giving us the seas,
like you say, and we have things in this country.
But again, like you say, they had guns drawn right here.
We lived near Mennonites and not Amage. They were a
little bit north of us, but most of the Mennonites.
They raided their farms during COVID over milk and vaccines.
(26:28):
And imagine that these guys had a DNA that they
were just living out there on the farm having their
feet touched the dirt. No one got COVID. You know.
In fact, where we are in the valley, a lot
of these kids never even had a NASCAR or get
vaccines and they survived. They played during COVID. Kids were
rolling in the mud. It was great. Kids were playing
(26:50):
like normal children. They didn't have any tablets and apples going,
you know, apple iPads, so it was really fun. But
you know, they survived. Nobody died. Nobody died. So Rick,
wrap it up for us. I want to thank you.
Can come back again anytime and give us some more stories.
This is good stuff.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
Well, I want to thank Mike and Mike to Mike's
I want to thank them because they are part of
the solution, not the problem. And if all of us
would do our share. However, if it's a handshake and
somebody you get talking with somebody and they say, oh,
I just my doctor just told me, and you say, well,
(27:27):
I got an eight hundred number you can call, just
get his opinion. If we would do whatever we can,
we can turn this thing around. We got three years
left and an attack dog on staff. Bobby. Look what
he's been through, loss, his father, lost his uncle, you know,
(27:48):
and now once is he get on there and say
all right, get rid of all guns. He gets on
there and says, change the hearts of people. No able
flew Abel with a rock. They didn't out Rick.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Have you met Have you met Bobby? Have you met
him at all?
Speaker 2 (28:08):
Have not? I think I probably will if I stay
with John because he's well connected. Oh good, yeah, but
I'm interested. I uh yeah, I think he's a winner
and courageous. Boy. What he did yesterday with the tailand
all thing, whoa you talk about picking a fight. I
(28:29):
don't know if you got to see it, but if
he didn't google.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
It, I had. I had a listener call me yesterday.
He's not just he's a friend that's why he got
my number. But he called me yesterday afternoon and started
talking to me about this tailand all thing. And I
thought he was going to talk about that case. Remember
years ago, he had a case where the poisoned til
and all. They had to take it off the shelf.
So I said, why are you bringing this up? I mean,
(28:51):
that's a little time ago. And he goes, no, no,
I found out that this tailing all was basically destroying
men's testerol testosterone. And I'm like, you kid, He says yeah.
And he's a kind of a chemist kind of guy,
you know. And he said yeah, he said, I didn't
looked at the studies and so on. He says, thiland O.
I said, I didn't even know that. All I thought
it was, you know, was that crackpot at the time
(29:12):
when they had to take all Thailand off the show.
It's really not good for you anyway. I mean, doctors
will tell you if you have to take one, don't
take too many, or you know, so on. So your lover, yeah,
the liver, anybody who was a fatty liver cannot take
it either. They tell fatty liver people you cannot take talano,
you know, what I mean, So, how good is it? Right?
(29:32):
It's going through your system and the liver gets affected,
you know, Rick, thank you so much. Mike, you want
to say something here, just.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
Thank you very much.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
It's hard to believe that if there's good news in
the world, and we're certainly appreciate, appreciative of you to
come and talk to us.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Well, I can't wait for you to have John Richardson
Junior on and I can't wait to come back in
another four or five months because I'll have new information.
I'll guarantee you.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
Earlier than that, you're welcome. If it's earlier than four
or five months, you're welcome. And thank you for coming
on because we like to inform the people. We have
enough shows up there over five hundred where we have
smart and bright people like yourself coming on, and that's
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to two mich your time on. Tell us a little
(03:58):
bit about you and what you want to speak about.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Okay, thank you, Mike and Mike looking forward to this.
My story is unique for just two reasons. One, it
was a long time ago. It was in the early
days of this whole movement when I decided to leave
the Mayo Clinic without having chemotherapy or radiation that were prescribed,
(04:28):
and left and went to Tijuana, I know, Tijuana, Mexico,
and then was very vocal about it. When I got home,
having written books and given speeches, the American Cancer Society
came after me to try and discredit me, used to
(04:49):
run articles in newspapers that say I never had cancer
in the first place. So I wrote the Mayo Clinic
and I said, the American Cancer Society as a q
there's you of wrongdoing there. It is sign well stationary
at the Mayo Clinic, huh yeap and signed by the doctor.
(05:10):
There's a signature and it just says this. I'm not
going to read the whole letter. Those that have asked
whether you actually did have cancer in the first place,
you are entirely right. You add stage three high grade
a little like stage four high grade embryono South Carsonoma.
(05:32):
So not lying to you, I got the proof because
so many people wanted to believe that what I did
couldn't possibly have worked, including the Mayo Clinic. And if
you think I'm ugly, now, that's what I look like
fifty years ago at the Mayo Clinic. That's a gastric
tube going from my nose down into my stomach. Not pleasant.
(05:58):
And I was on morphine I one hundred and twenty
pounds and the chemotherapist told me bring your family in
it's time. I was twenty four years old, we'd been
married only a year and a half. My wife was
just expecting our first You know, your life can go
from zero to sixty in a minute, and it can
(06:21):
also go from sixty to zero in a minute. Oh.
I had three bizarre events happened to me that encouraged
me to answer the question what were you thinking leaving
the Mayo Clinic? Where are you serious about this? And
the first one, quickly is that I was at the
(06:46):
Mayo Clinic and they told me that I was going
to start chemo on a Monday, and this was a Friday.
That day, I got a letter in the mail for
ten cents doamp and that ten cents Stamp pulled it out.
The letter said, dear Rick, if you want to Lee live,
(07:07):
you've got to leave the Mayo Clinic. Pastor John Valentine
signed it, and I thought, mind your own business. I mean,
you're not a doctor. I know about this, probably what
you know. But he was a John Birch Society member,
(07:27):
very conservative, maga on steroids. They even wanted to get
us out of the UN in the sixties. And if
you heard the President speak this morning at the UN,
he kind of suggested we might just do that. He's
so disgusted. So I read this, I call him up.
(07:47):
I said, John, if I didn't know you're a Baptist pastor,
I think, what are you smoking? Why do you think
I need to leave the Mayo Clinic? He said, because
some clinics understand drugs, and you're at one of those.
Some clinics understand the human immune system. You're not at
one of those. I said, well, where would I have
(08:09):
to go to get to one of those places? And
he said, well, you're going to fly into San Diego.
I said yeah. Then he said yeah, you get on
a bus and You're going to go to Tijuana and
what are they going to do, going to smoke dope
or something? Yeah, what are you going to do? And
he said, well, we're going to take They take a
(08:32):
derivative of apricots and they make a serum out of
it and they inject it into your vein, like right there.
And I said apricots. Huh. I said, this is a
lot for me to take home to my family. Anything else?
(08:54):
He said, yeah, I'll call a few people. I gave
you a couple of numbers, so I'm not going to
do that. But I am going to go to the
chemotherapist and I am going to say, hey, here's what
I was told today. What do you think I should do?
And he leaned back in his chair and he said,
you know, Rick, it is warm in Tijuana this time
of the year. I thought, at first, I get this
(09:16):
weird letter, you know, out of the clear blue. Then
a Mayo chemotherapist drops a hint. I mean he's not
going to say no, you got to leave now. You know,
he's got a pretty good job there, pretty good gig.
And I said, message delivered, Thanks so much, and I
walked out went home. He had dinner told my family
(09:39):
this whole story. My brother Sam Hill stood up and said, Ricky,
we always knew you were stupid, we just didn't know
how bad it was. And I said, well, thanks, Sam,
appreciate the support. Got all over.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
Rick By any chance, you wouldn't have any relatives in Virginia,
would you?
Speaker 2 (10:01):
No?
Speaker 1 (10:02):
No, the reason I say that we got round Hill
in Virginia, I didn't know if it was a relative.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
No. My folks were from Alabama and Texas.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
You know, I'm just being sarcastic round Hill.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
So you know, I called this guy and uh and
and he tells me I should I get around the table.
Everyone gave me a dirty look. That's where I left off.
My father in law stood up. He said, I like it.
(10:37):
I'll take him, and I'll help pay for it.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
Nice.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
I said, deal. Now, just like God led Abraham's servant
to the well to find a woman suitable for him,
don't say that today with any neighborhood inference. And she
was there waiting for him. Got back and another servant said,
how in the world did you make your mind up
(11:05):
to travel four hundred and fifty miles on a camel
one way to find a woman who had married Abraham's son,
and the servants said, well, I being in the way
the Lord led me. In other words, even though those
circumstances were crazy, A one month trip on a camel
(11:29):
four hundred and fifty miles with some jewelry for a
dowry maybe half million bucks.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
And possibly one hundred and seventeen degrees.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Oh, it was a miserable trip. And there you go,
and here I am. In one twenty four hour period.
I get a crazy letter, I get a chemotherapist who
knocks me down with it with a statement, and then
I get a father in law after my family's thrown
(11:59):
me away, says I like it. I'll take him. So
I being in the way the Lord led me. I
couldn't come up with a human reason why those things
three happened. Those three things happened to me.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
When that happened or not, I was That's why I'm
thinking that one.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Yeah, okay, I being in the way the Lord led me.
And here's what I want your listeners and viewers to know.
It doesn't say that I was one hundred percent believer
in this process. At the time, I had my doubts.
Are you kidding? And I was afraid I'd wake up
in the middle of the night in a cold sweat.
(12:40):
But I'm sure that the Abraham servant, halfway through that trip,
two hundred and fifty two hundred some miles into it,
on the back of a sweaty camel, thought, what was
I think? Aim I got down to TJ. It's a
big switch from the United States back in the seventies.
(13:03):
And I made up my mind that day that I
was going to do whatever they asked me to do.
I just didn't know what that implied. How you want
to take a break and we'll cover that when they
get back.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
No, hang on a second. I want to say something
at this point in the show that all knowledgeable about,
believe it or not, Mexico and you know this Rick
in Panama and a couple other countries. You know, we're
playing around with an FDA that doesn't want to do
stem cell approvals. They don't want to do anything that's
the future of a medical care. And you know, Mexico's
(13:42):
way ahead of us. They already got compounds, their hotels,
resort kind of operations. You go down there and do
the stem cell and all the other stuff. I won't
tell you who the big celebrity is that went down
there recently and had his eyesight restored. But it's you know,
we laugh about Mexico in a lot of ways. Okay,
but they are so even even for dentists, right, if
(14:03):
you go down there, what is it one third the
price to get the implants and so on. They have
like compounds and you know, little cities where you get
the stuff the next day it's made. So you know,
I understand. But our country, you know, we're regulated to death.
And you know, pharma is a big industry. They love drugs.
Every other commercial at night network where you know TV
(14:25):
drug Drug, Drug, and now they have like a Disney
dance when they do one of those shots in the arm.
You know, da da da, very very overweight people in
skin tight clothing dancing. You think you're on a Disney cruise, right,
and at the end you see, well here's the side effects.
Go ahead. I'm sorry, you.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Know, you're absolutely right this. Of course, this was back
in the early seventies and Leo Trell believed ME was
very new at that time, unknown other clinics, so it
was a little different landscape than today. And I agree
with you. We've actually got an agreement in the last
couple of weeks, and I've got an eight hundred number.
(15:07):
I can about that. If anybody in your tribe is
suffering the way I did, or give this eight hundred
number a call. And I won't tell people what to do.
I will tell them what I did, and if it
sounds good to them, I can show them a place
to go to get medical supervision. And I think I
(15:30):
was happy with it.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
I have the best write I have the best note
writer as a co host right now, so you could
say the number, He'll write it down.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
Go ahead, Hey, it's eight hundred eight seven seven six
seven five oh. Some days I answer it and uh,
and I'll chat with you and I'll tell you what
I think about what I did, and I can today
we can ship our products and not be in legal problem.
(15:58):
But we're careful about how we did described it. They're
adjunk like high dose vitamin C or uh. You know
Meyer's cocktails for hangovers. That's how we classified this, and
so you know, we keep our nose clean. But today
you can get good help medical supervision. I mean, for
(16:22):
less than half of what I spent when I went
down there, because it was so new they were spending
half their money on legal lawyering. Up today they don't
quite have to do that. So do you want to
see the products that they gave me?
Speaker 1 (16:39):
Your book too, I want to see your book. Put
your book on the screen there.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
All right, this is a book that I wrote. This
is the fourth or fifth edition. It's called Too Young
to Die. And this is how thick it is. All right?
Speaker 1 (16:52):
So how many pages is that?
Speaker 2 (16:54):
One hundred pages of quick read? I'll tell you what
it's got pictures, take print the whole thing. But I'll
tell you why it's important, because it gives people hope.
I'm a storyteller. I told the true story. I showed
you the letter, but the good, funny, the not so funny,
(17:15):
what happened to me. And they'll enjoy it. They can
get it free. What I took was three things. I
took B seventeen laatrill, but in the liquid form when
I was in treatment. Now I take one one hundred
capsule milligram capsule a day. One that's a three month supply.
(17:38):
And I take pro enzymes. Can you tell an old
guy is taking it every day? At ten and two?
I take two of these Because if you and I'll
tell you how you're going to get this book. I'm
in a reference free, absolutely free. And then they gave
me the pro enzyme or the pro gammic and gammic acid.
(18:03):
Those three things is all it was. Plus the diet,
get off of bad food, eat organic eighty percent raw
and uncooked. Kind of boring for a while. And detox.
They wanted me to do mile fasting and taught me
how to do what we call calonics, not my cup
(18:25):
of tea, not what I do when I have a
day with nothing to do, but still in all I
detox and I got on this program. And if your
viewers want to go to our website, which is our
n C like Rick Nancy Kathy r n C or
cat store stre dot com and up in the right
(18:51):
hand corner a little magnifying glass a search bar type
Rick and it'll come up with these three products. And
if you do that with a subscribe, which you can
cancel at any time, and people do, you'll get the
book free. You'll ship it.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
Your products manufactured in America.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Yeah, they're all and we even grow all of our
apricot seeds. We can also get this that is called
an apricot kernel, and that's what's inside the pit of
an apricot that has the healing properties in it. And
they're kind of bitter. If you don't want to take
(19:32):
the one hundred milligram tablet, take six of these a day,
just throw them in in the morning and munch them
down a little bitter. Did I say that clearly? But
you'll get used to it.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
And so it's God's medicine. It's God's medicine to mankind.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
Remember in Genesis, God said that he said, every herb
and seed I have provided for you, we quit doing that.
I mean, when people eat an apple, they don't eat
the seeds. Why not? They did? Exactly like this identical
has that bitter flavor and then kind of an amoretto finish.
(20:15):
Bakers use this stuff for amaretto muffins and all that
kind of thing. So they're over one hundred and twenty
foods that have high levels of what's called nitrilocide, the
same active ingredient that's in those vials or in the
seeds or in the capsules. Not a ton of money.
(20:38):
No one's ever been hurt doing it. I've never relapsed.
I've never had any kind of chemotherapy. Or radiation.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
All these things could we say on this show with
you because you have more knowledge. But I've heard over
the years chemo is basically just taken you out. When
they give you chemo, it's pretty much what they do.
It burns you right out.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
I'm not sorry. I didn't take it right because that
chemo therapist dropped that weird statement immediately. And that's because
he knew he was going to administer at tenomyas and
D to me, and I think he believed can't prove it.
I believe he believed that it would kill me pretty quickly. Yes, Oh,
(21:29):
it doesn't kill everybody that takes it. In fact, there
are clinics out there that do low dose chemo. I
can tell you about that on the eight hundred number.
But it's a tenth of a dose and it works
really well. But there's more research. Let me give away
the free book. Here's what it's called, and I want
your viewers to have it. Well, that's the picture of
(21:52):
the book, World Without Cancer beautiful.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Griffin, I will go yes, Rich going
back to JVS one minute. Uh, they're good friends of
our show. We have them on time to time. I've
had the former president on John McManus who passed away, Uh,
the president President. We had on Wayne who is a
(22:18):
friend of us. In fact, we had him on the show.
Remember Mike, I had Wayne on with John together with us.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
I do.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
Yeah. Wayne and John McManus and I grew up within
thirty minutes of each other. I never met each other.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
I'm gonna see Wayne in about a month. He's gonna
come to San Diego to help start in East County
chapter I joined. I was at Red Phil and I
joined the birt Society. Imagine how my mind has changed
about so many things.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
Well, if they had Birch societies everywhere, people would understand
the Constitution, they would understand what Americans founding is. In fact,
now what they're promoting is they're not saying Christian, nationalist,
Christian is that they're saying, it's Americanism. And that's it.
That's the bumper stick. It's Americanism. That's it. We don't
(23:15):
have to add one more word, and it's all for America.
We don't have to worry about all the other thing,
you know, blah blah blah, because a lot of these
guys are fakes anyway, and they're just trying to make
money on coining the terminology, you know. But yeah, they're
great people at JBS. You go on there, you get
all the information you want. And Griffin's been friends with
them for many, many years.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
Yeah, let me let me tell you how to get
that for free. I don't want it because some people
are saying, well, what he's Eddie free? Go on to
my World Without Cancer dot com. Just put the wordmind
front of World without Cancer dot com a thing of
spring up. Don't have to give a credit card free.
(23:55):
We will ship you a PDF, which is an electronic
three hundred page book. At first half of the book
is what is this stuff? How is it invented? And why?
Second half of the book is why did our government
turn against it? And I would answer it in a
simple phrase. You here, nobody kicks a dead dog. If
(24:17):
all of us took it wiped out, the government would
have left us alone. But when so many people like
John's father leatro case histories, the Richardson Cancer Clinic experience
sixty three case histories of terminal people that he treated
(24:38):
with exactly what I did, and they came in with
guns drawn, arrested him, put him in jail with his
nurse and took away his medical license. This is what
John Junior lived through. The guy that I'm hopefully, yeah,
you'll get on your show, but that's where you read.
(25:00):
If your people will order that free book, I'll guarantee
you it'll have every answer they could ever ask and excellent.
Put it down and go, you know what, I'm gonna
log on. I'm gonna do that. And if they log
onto our website, you have created I think, do you
have a discount qude or I can provide one?
Speaker 1 (25:20):
Oh, you can provide one.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
That's okay, well, okay. At the end of an order
on our nc store dot com website, they'll pick out
what they want and at the end it'll say, do
you have a discount quote? Put rick ten? Okay, that
means ten percent off, and that's that's a good deal.
(25:42):
This is not expensive stuff. And fifty years later, I'm
still taking it.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
God brush, Yeah, that's amazing.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
So it's a lifetime commitment. And when people get you know,
in remission and quit and say, DoD's that bullet that
is so bad because if it comes back, it comes
back and force I'm sure you know stories.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
Oh yeah, but it's amazing. That you know, we have
this natural ability with God's help of giving us the seas,
like you say, and we have things in this country.
But again, like you say, they had guns drawn right here.
We lived near Mennonites and not Amage. They were a
little bit north of us, but most of the Mennonites.
They raided their farms during COVID over milk and vaccines.
(26:28):
And imagine that these guys had a DNA that they
were just living out there on the farm having their
feet touched the dirt. No one got COVID. You know.
In fact, where we are in the valley, a lot
of these kids never even had a NASCAR or get
vaccines and they survived. They played during COVID. Kids were
rolling in the mud. It was great. Kids were playing
(26:50):
like normal children. They didn't have any tablets and apples going,
you know, apple iPads, so it was really fun. But
you know, they survived. Nobody died. Nobody died. So Rick,
wrap it up for us. I want to thank you.
Can come back again anytime and give us some more stories.
This is good stuff.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
Well, I want to thank Mike and Mike to Mike's
I want to thank them because they are part of
the solution, not the problem. And if all of us
would do our share. However, if it's a handshake and
somebody you get talking with somebody and they say, oh,
I just my doctor just told me, and you say, well,
(27:27):
I got an eight hundred number you can call, just
get his opinion. If we would do whatever we can,
we can turn this thing around. We got three years
left and an attack dog on staff. Bobby. Look what
he's been through, loss, his father, lost his uncle, you know,
(27:48):
and now once is he get on there and say
all right, get rid of all guns. He gets on
there and says, change the hearts of people. No able
flew Abel with a rock. They didn't out Rick.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Have you met Have you met Bobby? Have you met
him at all?
Speaker 2 (28:08):
Have not? I think I probably will if I stay
with John because he's well connected. Oh good, yeah, but
I'm interested. I uh yeah, I think he's a winner
and courageous. Boy. What he did yesterday with the tailand
all thing, whoa you talk about picking a fight. I
(28:29):
don't know if you got to see it, but if
he didn't google.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
It, I had. I had a listener call me yesterday.
He's not just he's a friend that's why he got
my number. But he called me yesterday afternoon and started
talking to me about this tailand all thing. And I
thought he was going to talk about that case. Remember
years ago, he had a case where the poisoned til
and all. They had to take it off the shelf.
So I said, why are you bringing this up? I mean,
(28:51):
that's a little time ago. And he goes, no, no,
I found out that this tailing all was basically destroying
men's testerol testosterone. And I'm like, you kid, He says yeah.
And he's a kind of a chemist kind of guy,
you know. And he said yeah, he said, I didn't
looked at the studies and so on. He says, thiland O.
I said, I didn't even know that. All I thought
it was, you know, was that crackpot at the time
(29:12):
when they had to take all Thailand off the show.
It's really not good for you anyway. I mean, doctors
will tell you if you have to take one, don't
take too many, or you know, so on. So your lover, yeah,
the liver, anybody who was a fatty liver cannot take
it either. They tell fatty liver people you cannot take talano,
you know, what I mean, So, how good is it? Right?
(29:32):
It's going through your system and the liver gets affected,
you know, Rick, thank you so much. Mike, you want
to say something here, just.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
Thank you very much.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
It's hard to believe that if there's good news in
the world, and we're certainly appreciate, appreciative of you to
come and talk to us.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Well, I can't wait for you to have John Richardson
Junior on and I can't wait to come back in
another four or five months because I'll have new information.
I'll guarantee you.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
Earlier than that, you're welcome. If it's earlier than four
or five months, you're welcome. And thank you for coming
on because we like to inform the people. We have
enough shows up there over five hundred where we have
smart and bright people like yourself coming on, and that's
why we have the two Mics podcast. You know, we
put it out there. Thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
All right, guys, thank you, thank you,
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