Free Speech is The Way with Jeff Dornik

Today, on the Two Mikes, Colonel Mike and Dr. Mike welcomed back Jeff Dornik who is now the chief of a new Network called “Maverick”, which he transitioned into from his former network, Freedom First. The new network will have 8 to 10 different shows on a weekly basis. He also has developed a new social media platform called PickAx. The system is now web-based but in two months an app will be available. He also is the host of the Jeff Dornik Show, which is a free speech and an America First program. Mr. Dornick also is spending an increased amount of his time cooperating with other people who are seeking to support the reforms of the national medical system that have been advocated by Robert F. Kennedy. The lunacy of continuing the status quo is underscored by the fact that the system is still urging poisonous covid shots for all Americans, and especially for children. Such a situation surely indicates Kennedy has his work cut out for him and that the those who run the federal medical bureaucracy are still intent on killing as many Americans as possible.

We also spoke about Trump’s plan for imposing on new and substantial tariffs on countries that his aides have proven to use high tariffs against American products and other tools – like the EU’s Value added-taxes. Trump moved ahead with this reciprocal tariff plan, even though many economists – especially Libertarians -- are claiming that such tariffs are the road to economic disaster. While that may be, it is hard to disguise the damage that has been done to America’s industrial and agricultural bases by foreign tariffs deliberately designed to do that damage. There also is the point that Trump successfully used tariffs during his first term and derived economic benefits for America therefrom. All tariff-based policies are, of course, going to cause some turmoil in an international system in which countries use their tariffs to damage the American economy, but only because those discriminatory tariffs were imposed against the United States. There is no knowing how Trump’s tariffs will impact the U.S. economy, but only uniformed or under-experienced Americans can expect to rebuild their economy and workforces without some kind of accompanying pain.


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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:02):
Hey, welcome back to another episode of two Mics. As
you know, we're going on five years over five hundred shows.
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we started out America Outloud, dot news, the National Security
Now Colonel Mike, Doctor Mike on Monday eight pm. But
why I'm making this new intro is because we need
you to get on board. Go to the website Two Mikes,

(00:44):
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(02:13):
Things are gonna be bad. Things are going to be
coming that we don't expect. We don't know. All right.
We appreciate your support. Five years over five hundred shows.
We try to give you the best. I hope you
liked that last one. We did, the big one. We
had Jack Maxi on again, Part one, Part two with
USS Liberty. Everybody's waking up now. Oh no, don't tell me.

(02:37):
Oh is that No, it's not. It's a first Amendment.
We have the first Amendment on Network Radio dot us.
We have the first Amendment on Maverick. We have the
first Amendment on two mics dot us. We have the
first Amendment on americathloud dot news, America outloud, dot news.
That's right, only first Amendment. If there's no first Amendment,
we're not doing the show. Sorry, no editing. We're not Foxnews,

(02:59):
fake news News, max ohe and none of that. Those
guys play the game, by the way, Oh yes, don't
theyk that stuff ain't edited? All right, even those big
name podcasters with the big salaries. We don't have a salary,
by the way. Okay, we do this because we love
our country and we critique when we have to just

(03:19):
go to America out loud, dot news. We just critique
the president on tariffs. We believe economy has to be
a company.

Speaker 2 (03:25):
Yeah, I get it.

Speaker 1 (03:26):
We got to have reciprocal things. But you know what tariffs? Hm?
Anybody know about economy? Did he speak to Ron Paul?
Did he speak to Tom Tom de Lorenzo, Did he
speak to Murray Sabred? No, he didn't speak to Tom Assey.
We know that he's looking to blow tom Assey out.
All right, so let's get with the program. Huh. It's

(03:47):
First Amendments, Second Amendment and all the bill rights and everything.
That's what we have. Any other country comes here and
tells us we have to change our laws to make
them happy. Really, really, we go to your country and
change the laws to make us happy. So shut your
ass up. Okay, hey, listen, another great show coming up.

(04:08):
Enjoy it, don't forgit it. Put some comments, send us
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We take them all and we thank you, thank you
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(04:29):
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dot com, tw Mike's dot us. Hey, enjoy the show.
Thank you by four three two one. Hey, welcome back

(05:26):
your own with two Mikes. Doctor Michael Shower, New York
Times bestselling author and Colonel Michael never wrote a book anyway. Hey, listen,
I just want to say something. A few years ago,
we brought on this guy with the Freedom First Network
and his name is Ira, our goal Guy. Now, just
in case you weren't around a couple of years back,

(05:48):
I think it was what abound nineteen or something like that.
He joined Freedom First Network and it was all the
shows on there and we were advertising our goal Guy.
And it's still on our website. Two Mikes U tw
Mike's dot us. If you got in with us a
few years ago, I believe if you're listening to us
now and you're still listening to us over the years,

(06:09):
you probably bought gold anywhere from thirteen hundred to fifteen
hundred dollars an ounce. Let me repeat that, thirteen hundred
to fifteen hundred dollars an ounce. We were talking about
it back then on all the shows, and we said
get in with our goal guy, and we did have
a lot of people that called in. A lot of
people have bought go Here's the thing. We don't know
who you are, we don't know where you live, we

(06:29):
don't know how much you buy. It's very confidential. Iris
in the business forty two years. He just tells us, Hey,
people called in. They heard it on two mics. Okay, today,
your gold is worth thirty one hundred dollars. Just listen
to me carefully. Thirteen fourteen, fifteen. It's thirty one hundred
dollars an ounce.

Speaker 2 (06:45):
Now.

Speaker 1 (06:46):
So if you didn't get in with us, then you
may want to get in with us now, right, Okay,
So here's the deal. It's on the website. It's ourgoalguy
dot com. You click the link thing. It goes right
to his website and you just say, hey, you heard
it on the two Mics. Now, is goal the best
thing for you? I don't know. We're not professionals. I
was in the business forty two years. He's the only

(07:08):
guy I know licensed by cftc OH And here's the
best deal. When you buy gold from IRA or silver
whatever you buy whatever medals, you're not going to have
to wait three years to break even. He makes a
very small little commission profit. He likes to explain to
you why you should have medals in your portfolio. It's
a nice conversation. All you have to do is say hey,
I heard it on the two Mics, and he'll let

(07:29):
us know that. You know, thank you. He'll give us
a thank you. He's a sponsor, right, okay, So if
you want the free speech, if you want the First Amendment, right,
if you want to listen too mics, if you want
to listen to any of our shows, okay, then you
got to support the sponsors. We have other people on there. Also.
We have the most exotic perfume that Mike buys his

(07:50):
wife every year. I think he does. Okay, do you
still spend that money, Mic, well you saving it? Yeah, okay, okay,
and then then we have MP shield, we have other things. Okay.
So having said that, we get that out of the way.
That's little housekeeping. Remember thirteen, fourteen, fifteen hundred, you already
doubled your money and maybe more than double. All right,

(08:11):
so you know, don't forget to visit our goalguide dot com.
I'm going to be saying this on every two MIC show,
by the way. Okay, So now we're going to bring
back the guy who created the Freedom First network, which
is now a new network. He'll tell you all about it.
He hasn't been on our show for a while, so
he sent us a message. He's been traveling. He's going
to give us an update, and he's really on top

(08:33):
of this AI stuff, unlike us old guys. You know,
we're just still pressing the hyperlinks. Okay, and we don't
use chat GPT. I call Mike and I have a chat.
So let's welcome back Jeff Dornick, who's who's been done
a lot of things. How many years we're doing this now?
Five years? Jeff?

Speaker 2 (08:47):
Yeah, I think what would be starting was it twenty
twenty twenty twenty one something like that.

Speaker 1 (08:51):
It's twenty twenty. Yeah. I just saw the other day
on Rumble that we had five thousand, five million, seven hundred.
You're in eighty eight thousand views over five years on
four hundred and seventy shows A mage in it.

Speaker 2 (09:05):
Oh my gosh, it's wild. It's it's it's, it's it's
crazy when you think, when you think, it's like, you know,
you guys been doing the show for what like half
a decade now, and it's it's, it's it's it's pretty.
It's pretty crazy. But but also too, it's like, you know,
it's the heart the hard part with with all of
this and like running a network and you know, you know,
all that kind of stuff is like you know, it's
like you were you deal with shadow Band, and you
deal with censorship because you know, you guys talk about

(09:27):
things that aren't necessarily popular in the mainstream. I talk
about things that aren't necessarily popular in mainstream. And I
mean we've we've even been you know, decently shadow band
on on Rumble and and all that kind of stuff,
which is which is led to remember just.

Speaker 1 (09:39):
Remember when you guys and us we used to get
what thirty sixty one hundred thousand views on the show, remember,
and then all of a sudden, I think locals sold
out to Rumble and Rumble did something in the jungle,
and then Bongino came in and all of a sudden,
the best guests we had we couldn't pull more than

(09:59):
two thousand views from sixty thousand views. I'm like, what
happened here? Imagine this? The right wing shadow banded us
on Rumbletoe Like you.

Speaker 2 (10:08):
Yeah, Like like if you go back and you look,
you look at all of our episodes, like we had
built up Freedom First network to where, like you said,
we were getting thirty thousand and fifty thou hundred thousand
views an episode, like across the board with all of ours,
like we had put a lot of work in building
it all up, and literally overnight and one you can
go back and you can trace this. And I went
back and looked at this. Overnight it went from we
had thirty thousand views in an episode, the next episode

(10:29):
it went down to fifteen hundred, and then we were
never able to get it back up. And what was
interesting is that then I reached out to customer support
at Rumble to find out, okay, what's going on. And
the guy responded to me, and he probably shouldn't have
because you know, they were messing with us. He's like, Oh,
there's this button right here that that's clicked. Let me
unclick this and let me see if this fixes it

(10:50):
for you. He unclicks it and he's like, just give
it a few days. I'll go back to normal. Never
came back.

Speaker 1 (10:56):
Yeah, we were. We were al Gore rhythm, like a
vice president al Go Rhythm. I mean they gave it
to us. So anyway, I mean we still survive. You know,
we do the freedom first of First Amendment stuff. Mike.
As you know, Mike has been out there way before
we even had the two Mike Show. We used to
do the radio sixteen years ago. But before that, he

(11:18):
was very popular as a commentator on CBS and that
Fox and all that, and he was canceled before it
was cool. That's what's great about Mike.

Speaker 2 (11:28):
Wait wait wait wait wait before all the rest of us.

Speaker 1 (11:31):
But you know, they still love him on our t
and what's that other show Mike redacted? And what is
that underground something decent? Whatever? That guy is strong.

Speaker 3 (11:41):
There's another art one too, I think.

Speaker 1 (11:43):
Yeah, they love him. Oh but and then they'll call
him a Putin puppet, you know, because he went on
our te You know, Urtie's got free speech. By the way,
I just Jeff, just as before we get started with
going on what you're doing. I just listened to David Knight,
who used to be with Alex Jones, and he just
called it out on today's show. He said, look, if
you want to have First Amendment, you can't have these

(12:04):
Zionists getting involved in our country. And then saying that
these guys are flying around with a protest and you
got to get rid of these people. It's just nuts,
all right. So Jeff, tell us give us the updates.
So it's no longer Freedom. First, did you pull all
the shows to Maverick? Now? How does this work?

Speaker 2 (12:20):
Yeah, So basically we incorporated all the shows over to
over to Maverick Broadcasting, and I'm in the process of
dealing with h with Rumbull right now on getting you know,
officially all the channels switched over to the to the
new account and all that kind of stuff. But you know,
I basically I teamed up with Matt Couch and so
we rebranded relaunched Freedom forst Network. Now as Maverick Broadcasting Network.
And so we got a bunch of awesome shows and

(12:41):
we're bringing on some new ones as well. So you know,
Karen Kingston's going to come on and have her own show,
Teddy Daniels is going to hop over. I'm talking to
Tina Forte. We're gonna be adding some some really cool
new shows. But the key though is that you know,
we're running it all under one, you know, one parent account.
So if you guys just look up Maverick Broadcasting Network,
you guys will see it and then all show.

Speaker 1 (13:00):
You have the logo there? Could you show us the logo?
Is it there in your office? There?

Speaker 2 (13:04):
I don't have it right here right here behind me.

Speaker 1 (13:07):
Yeah, put it on the screen if you can.

Speaker 2 (13:09):
Yeah, let me let me, let me let me see
if I can do that really quick.

Speaker 1 (13:13):
Yeah, you got to show them the logo so they
know what they're looking for.

Speaker 2 (13:16):
Yeah, let me let me see if I can. I'm
gonna I'm gonna try and share the screen really quick.
Let's see here, but it's not shown share here, we go. Okay,
so but but yeah, so if this will allow me,
it won't allow multiple presenters sharing for this meeting, it won't.

(13:36):
It won't let me do it. But what so I'll
pull it up on my on my phones that way
you can you can see it, and I'll hold it
up to the screen. But so like you guys can
see right there. So that's Maverick Broadcasting. We run all
the we run all the shows through that and then
that way, you know, you get access to the entire lineup.

(13:56):
You'll see that we're posting clips from the shows. You
guys can see the full episodes. And we got an
amazing lineup and I'm really excited about what we're doing
with Maverick and teaming up on that couch and all that.

Speaker 1 (14:06):
So also, you're doing a really good job, Mike, and
I swell that you're doing a really good job when
we send you a two Mike show and you posted
on what is that thing X right where you do
the one minute two minute clip right, which you did
with the who is that guy we had on Mike
the USS Liberty right Phil? Yeah, yeah, So he had

(14:27):
the Jack Maxi one minute two minute clips which he
ran on X which really really did well, you know,
and people really found out that there is a Jack
Maxie that had the laptop now you know.

Speaker 2 (14:39):
Yeah, no, it was great, And I think it really
helps because it makes you because I think a lot
of times there's there's such great content on like your
shows and everybody's show on the network, but it's there.
It's like, you know, when you're doing it, like a
half hour hour long show. You know a lot of
times a lot of stuff gets glossed over. People don't
know about it to even go look at it. So
kind of sharing those clips I think gives people, you know,

(15:00):
a good chance to see, oh, this is this is
really what they're diving into, and if they want more,
then they can listen to the entire episode.

Speaker 1 (15:05):
Yeah, that's a great way to promote it. And you
saw we did. We had to flip that show into
two parts because it was such a long shot. I mean,
he had so much to speak about. You should get
him on. Phil is a great guest and you know,
a lot of people don't realize it, especially your generation.
Nobody remembers. But you know, that was pretty much right
after Kennedy in the beginning of Here we Go. You know,

(15:26):
it's just well, there are ally I don't think so
after you watch that thing, there's an ally there you.

Speaker 2 (15:32):
Know, yeah, yeah, well you know, and I think even
you know, from my perspective, look looking at this where
you know, to me, whether or not you are pro
Israel or you think that you know, you think that
there are ally or not or whatever it is, to me,
it's it still comes back to the idea and the
base principle of we need to deal with what's going
on in our country first before we even start getting

(15:55):
involved in all these other countries. And so it's like
all of US conservatives and Trump supporters and all that
we've been saying, stop giving money to Ukraine, stop getting
involved with that war, stop getting involved with that war,
and all of a sudden when it comes to Israel,
it's like, oh, we need to send all the money
over there, and we're like wha hold on to say,
what just happened here?

Speaker 1 (16:10):
Did you see the list after usaid, I mean all
the money that they blew and my god, I had
no idea was that bit? And then they have the
nerve to say, well, we still got to send billions
over to Israel for a war. Come on, man, stop
it already, you know, And Rubio's saying he wants another
forty five or fifty billion dollars back in so he can,
you know, distribute that around the globe. I mean, this

(16:34):
guy probably the picks were crazy, Jeff, but this guy's
got to be the top of the list of gosh,
how did he pick this guy? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (16:42):
Yeah, But also, like think about this. This is what I
keep coming back to when we're when we're supporting all
these other countries. Right, so we don't have a surplus,
We're in debt, and what are we doing. We're borrowing
money from other countries with interest, and then we're turning
around and just giving the money away free to all
these other countries. So we're borrowing money in order to
give to other countries. Why aren't they going in borrowing

(17:03):
this money? Why do we have to borrow it on
behalf of them and then give it to them interest free?
How does this make any sense?

Speaker 1 (17:10):
What's the way we don't even pay it back? Jeff?
It becomes grands you know. Yeah, Okay, let's rock and roll.
So Jeff went somewhere the other way last week. You
was somewhere right, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (17:19):
Over the weekend, I was up in Rochester, New York
for the for the Summit on Truth and Wellness that
Shannon Joy was putting on up there. It was a
phenomenal event.

Speaker 1 (17:28):
Tell us a little bit about that.

Speaker 2 (17:29):
Yeah, so so Shannon put this together. This is this
is the third event, and it's it's raising money for
the Americans for a Health I think it's Americans for
Health Alternatives. And so they're trying to set up a
new alternative healthcare system that's more you know, naturopathic, holistic,
but also like a parallel economy to where it's like

(17:50):
it's a members association. You can join, it's like fifty
dollars a year, and then you get access to you know,
to medical doctors that are that are the kind of
doctors that you want, the people that will prescribe the
right things. They're not pushing vaccines and not pushing you know,
all the ridiculous COVID drugs and all that kind of stuff.
So it was to raise money for that, and so
Pickax was actually a sponsor, which is my social media platform.
We were the primary sponsor for the event, and so

(18:12):
we went out there and it was great because Shannon
decided to do something different this year than previous years,
so she just did two panels. So we did one
panel in the morning. That was all dealing with technocracy, transhumanism,
artificial intelligence that I participated in and we went for
two hours, So we just went on there and it
was a good conversation among all the panelists. And then
the second one was on medical freedom, COVID all that

(18:35):
kind of stuff, and it was a phenomenal lineup with
everybody from Mary Holland who's the CEO of Children's Health Defense,
to nail Me Wolf, to doctor Pierre Corey, Sasha Lettapova,
a great, great lineup of participants really, but it was
really cool because we all had a chance to kind
of engage with each other and interact and which then

(18:56):
leads to conversations that you don't normally hear or when
it's just somebody going in with a with a with
a prepared talk, because then one person says something, somebody
else adds their expertise. It was it was a really
cool event. You guys can actually go see it on
the Pickaxe Rumble accounts if you guys go to pick Umble.

Speaker 1 (19:13):
Great, great, So yeah, we could pick up how long
is that a couple hours? You got a couple hours
worth of stuff on pickos.

Speaker 2 (19:18):
I think it ended up being like six hours long.
So the panel with each panel was two hours long,
so there's two panels, and then we did a Q
and A at the end as well, so all together
was like five or six hours.

Speaker 1 (19:28):
Did you get a lot of good views people tuning
in on that one?

Speaker 2 (19:31):
Yeah, live, live viewers. We had about seventy thousand viewers.
And so by the by the time we're done with
it and all the promotion and all that kind of stuff,
we're probably looking at it, it'll be about four or
five million views altogether. It's pretty epic.

Speaker 1 (19:43):
Wow, do you hit that in like four or five
million views?

Speaker 3 (19:46):
Yeah, that's a good number.

Speaker 1 (19:48):
Good number. So tell us Pickaxe, how's that doing.

Speaker 2 (19:52):
It's it's going. It's going really well. So so we're
officially in pre launch, like it's available on the app
right now. So again for people that aren't aware, Picka
is the social media platform that I built. It's we're
dedicated to freedom of speech and freedom of reach, whereas
like on X you have freedom of speech but not
freedom of reach, which means that Elon lets you say
whatever you want, but that doesn't mean he has to
allow anybody to see it. And so what we're doing

(20:14):
specifically is. It's kind of a hybrid between X and
substack to where you get the social media component, you
can write and post articles directly in there. We're gonna
be rolling out a new email newsletter feature very similar
to substack, but it'll have some additional monetization features for
content creators. And then we're gonna be rolling out and
appen about the next six to eight weeks. And so

(20:34):
we're really rocking to roll in there. But we're working
on some really cool innovative features that will really help
to amplify your voice instead of all the rest of
the platforms which has taken your data, your thoughts, your
ideas and then just funneling it in artificial intelligence, and
then you're basically paying to build up their technology. I'm
just inverting that. It's like, you know, we're gonna use
technology to build up you as opposed to the other

(20:56):
way around. So you guys can sign up right now
actually at pickax dot com.

Speaker 1 (21:00):
Well we I do. I do have one for two
mics we have we're on there, Mike, Yeah, so I
post some stuff there time to time. You know, I
just figured out how to like cut nut cut and faste,
like copy the link to send it from your place,
your pickaxe to somewhere else. I didn't realize. I do
like the embed thing. It's different, but other than that,

(21:21):
it's a nice clean it's it's a clean slate. And
now you're getting more people to join. I see different
people on there. You know, the original Freedom First guys
are there.

Speaker 2 (21:32):
Still pretty much pretty much all the Freedom First guys
are there. And then we just had Aaron Day who's
with the Brownstone Institute, just joined, Doctor Mary and Tally
Boden just joined. I was just talking to Pierre Corey earlier,
who's the who's the guy that came up with the
ivermectin being effective for for COVID. He's hopping on there.
So we're getting we're getting some really cool uh you know,
people joining joining up with with the platform. So and

(21:54):
I was talking with she and Joy and she was
she announced on her show, uh just I think was
yesterday that she's in the process of transitioning completely off
of X and then she's she's pretty much gonna be
making pickax hurt her primary and only social media platform.
So we're we're definitely growing to get some really cool
people on there.

Speaker 1 (22:11):
So last week he did something with a stock buy, right,
didn't he Apparently he sold X to something one of
his AI companies, like one of these stock moves. I
guess it was to alleviate getting hit by lawsuits or
whatever for you know, what's going on in Washington.

Speaker 2 (22:29):
Yeah, so he so he sold X to his to
x AI, which is his artificial intelligence you know platform.
And when you look at when you look at his
announcement tweet, it was it was really interesting because it
just confirmed everything I've been saying since day one, where
I said Elon Musk did not get a loan for
forty four billion dollars in order to buy Twitter and
convert it to x to defend free speech. He got

(22:52):
it because he was doing a big data collection in
order to develop the most relevant update artificial intelligence on
the planet and for people that aren't away. His other company, Tesla,
is one of the worst offenders at data collection, and
so you know, obviously they stalk everybody and collect all
of your data where you go, what you do in
your car. But then every time you plug in your phone,
if you go look at the terms and conditions when

(23:13):
you bought the Tesla, every time you plug in your phone,
they can collect the data off of your phone that's
plugged into your tesla as well, and so they're doing massive,
massive data collection everywhere, and again it's all funneling into
this artificial intelligence. So now that XAI now officially owns X,
basically X is just being used as this massive, massive

(23:33):
data collection in order to again make the make his
artificial intelligence the most relevant up to date AI on
the planet, which it actually is right now. When you
know if far exceeds chat GPT or any of these
other chatbots. So you know, to me, that's really concerning,
especially when you start looking at what he's doing with
DOGE and all the data collection that he's doing through

(23:54):
that and all the government documents and all that kind
of stuff. It's pretty wild and pretty crazy when you
think when you think about the kind of power that
he has because he has access to basically all the
information that anybody would ever need. When when when you're
doing something like.

Speaker 1 (24:09):
This, you know what's scary this AI. We spoke to
a pastor and minister out in Sacramento a while ago
and he talked about that chat GTV and he you
know how it's going to tie in and end times
and so on Jeff with you know, robots, transhumanism, you've
all Haradi kind of programmed.

Speaker 2 (24:30):
Yeah, well, you know, I think I think the thing
is that a lot of people see Elon Musk is like, oh,
he's he's opposing World Economic for him and he you know,
he's one of our guys because he, you know, is
teamed up with Team Trump. But I would argue that
Elon Musk is actually, you know, a different side of
the same coin as World Economic Form. He's trying to
basically essentially do the exact same thing. It's just in
a different way. You know, you've you've all know Harari

(24:51):
you know, famously said that that they're that they want
to that they're basically taking away free will and they
can control you from within. Well that's exactly what Elon's
trying to do with neuralink. You know, you know, they're
gonna have the ability to erase your memories and replace
them with new ones. As he explained on Joe Rogan's podcast,
that's terrifying, that's wild, that's crazy, But but you know
it's it's it's weird how how so many people have

(25:15):
come to his defense, and how many and how many
people are like cheering on Elon with a lot of
these things that he's doing, and I'm like, what he's
actually trying to accomplish is not good. He had an
interview I think, I want to say about a year
and a half ago, two years ago with Benjamin nett
Yaho where net Yah, who was basically at a conference
interviewing Elon and asking, Okay, so what's where Where's AI

(25:36):
going with all of this?

Speaker 1 (25:37):
Right?

Speaker 2 (25:37):
What's the end game? And Elon explained, You're we're either
gonna have Terminator in the next ten years where the
robots take over the plane, or we're gonna have Heaven
on Earth over the next ten years. And Benjamin nett
Yaho responds with, okay, so what does that mean? What
does that look like? What is Heaven on Earth? And
Elon goes on to explain that Heaven on Earth is
basically human beings are no longer necessary. We don't have

(25:59):
to work, We'll have universal basic income, We'll have access
to everything. We've got our brainships that are that are
connecting our brains to the Internet and connecting to artificial intelligence,
will have access to all the information. If you want food, cool,
you can print it if you want, like you Basically,
it's a hedonistic lifestyle on steroids. That is Elon Musk's
definition of heaven on Earth, which to me, you're taking

(26:22):
away every single definition of what it means to be
human because now, all of a sudden, there's no more struggle,
there's no more self improvement, there's no more learning. You're
just an all consuming blob of flesh. And you know,
but the problem is we have to look at what
is Elon Musk's worldview. Elon Musk's worldview is anti god.
It's atheistic. He's basically trying to create God through his

(26:42):
artificial intelligence and superintelligence and all of that. Like, it's
kind of terrifying with someone when somebody like that is
basically the most powerful man on the planet, when you
think about all the things that he has access to.

Speaker 1 (26:54):
Yeah, I you know, we had that conversation with the
Minister about it. You know, Satan has benefits, always had benefits, right,
So this guy's going to give you all the benefits
and then you're going to have to worship them, just
like the people in the music industry and the entertainment industry,
they all get the benefit. You know, you're going to
give up your soul. You have a temporary, great lifestyle

(27:16):
if it's if that's what you want, right, but it's
short lived, and that's exactly what he's looking to do.

Speaker 2 (27:22):
Yeah, well, you know, and then and then it's like,
you know, he'll do that to the point to where
then he'll probably get bored with with with everybody just
being all consuming blobs of flesh, and that's when it's like, oh,
let's go colonize Mars and let's just get you know,
when you think about this too, it's like, you know,
think about like like you said, you're you know, it's
like you're look at what Satan offers, and Satan is
always the kind of a counterfeit of what Jesus is

(27:44):
is going to eventually do as well, So elon, you know,
his plan is to essentially rapture a small group of
people from planet Earth and go into outer space, into
Mars and colonize Mars. He's it's almost like he's trying
to you know, recreate or be Jesus reincarnated. It's it's
pretty crazy when you actually think about it.

Speaker 1 (28:04):
Well, yeah, he's got some weird brains and you know,
maybe he's a smart guy in some fashion, but you know,
if you read the Bible, you know where this guy
is coming from. Oh yeah, oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (28:14):
Well and it's also crazy when you start looking into
you know, his family history and what was it his
grandfather that was like the ultimate like transhumanist, and you
know there's a lot of craziness in that family.

Speaker 1 (28:26):
His mom, his mom also you know, just weird, weird people. Okay,
so we're doing Maverick. We're all Freedom first. You got
to pump all less because I still see saw Freedom
first on Rumble. So how many shows do you think
you're going to have this like this month up on
Maverick down.

Speaker 2 (28:45):
Jeff, Yeah, so we've got about, I would say, probably
like eight to ten shows that are running basically a
week on a weekly basis, So you know, we're pumping
out probably you know, twenty five thirty episodes a month
as of right now. So it's me you know, consistent
and then and again, the nice thing is like if
you follow, if you follow Maverick, you know broadcasting on Rumble,

(29:05):
then you'll get access to, you know, the entire lineup
of shows we go live stream all that if you
if you want to subscribe to each individual show on
like Apple Podcasts and Spotify you can do that as well.
And but yeah, like we're just we're just trying to
put together a really cool, you know community of shows
and then you know, hopefully we can start doing some
you know, you know, cross integration and maybe we'll do
like a maybe like a monthly panel show, you know,

(29:27):
things like that. But it's been a lot of fun
kind of working with Matt Couch on this as well.
You know, he's new direction.

Speaker 1 (29:32):
New direction. Yeah, so okay, so we covered that. So
now most show is going to be pretty much the
same in content or everybody's got their own kind of thing.

Speaker 2 (29:43):
Everybody kind of has everybody kind of has their own
kind of thing. So like you know, like for me,
you know, with my show personally, you know, I'm just
interviewing people now that that I just you know, most
interested to talk to. It's like who do I want
to pick their brains? So like the last couple of
guys I had Senator Ron Johnson on the show, Mary
Tally about Bowden, doctor Pierre Corey, you know, things like that.
Whereas like Dustin Faulkner, like with Battlefront front Line, he's

(30:05):
typically focusing more on like, Okay, what's happening in Texas,
what's happening down on the border. You know, he does
a lot of that more investigative reporting and and things
that aren't necessarily covered in the mainstream media. So he's
so he's great, you know, from from that, from that perspective,
and then you've got like Jerome Jerome Bell on you know,
Sunday Nights, who has the Radical Republicans, and so he's
a lot of times having some really interesting conversation. I

(30:27):
think he had Phil Turney on a show the other
day as well, but he get he gets some really
interesting conversations and you know, and from him, from him
specifically as well, Like he he takes a look at things,
and I would say he's very aligned with with you
and doctor schuyer on on a lot of you know,
politics and Israel and all that kind of stuff. But

(30:47):
he also is looking at everything from the perspective of
being a black conservative and he's very he's very you know,
out and proud about that, and so a lot of
his conversations also hinge around that side of the conversation
and how the Democrats are totally you know, screwing minorities
and the whole deal. So when h show kind of
has their own little niche which which is which is
kind of cool?

Speaker 1 (31:07):
Good? Good, Mike. Do you have anything to say today? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (31:10):
I think that the problem we really have is that
people are desperate for something to happen. That's out of
the norm for the last you know, since since since Clinton,
and so far Trump has not delivered it. The last

(31:33):
spending bill was enormous. He's at war in two different
places and looking for more enemies. His economic policy is
a little strange. I'm a little less anti tariff than
some people are, but certainly to pick on a country
that is our essential northern security defense is a foolishness.

(31:59):
And to think of taking Canada into this union, all
it would ever do was to put a bunch of
very smart, very industrious people into the Democratic Party with
a majority that we would never be able to challenge
in terms of voters, legitimate voters. Regarding Musk, I don't

(32:25):
know a lot about what he talks about, but I
know if everything most of what they're saying is true,
He's stopped a lot of waste, and I think he's
made it clear that the reason so much money goes
overseas is because there's a substantial kickback on it from
it to the Democratic Party and their allies. So that's

(32:51):
kind of where I am at the moment. We have nothing,
We have no permanent change yet. We've talked about this
a little bit on one of our shows recently, but
everything that's been done has been done by an executive order,
all of which forever whoever is the party, I think
are unconstitutional. But we have nothing that can't be overturned

(33:13):
with the pen of a new president. And yeah, it's
only sixty days or seventy days, however many but four
years go quick, especially if we're in danger of losing
one or both of the houses in twenty six. So,
you know, the rhetoric's been good, some of what well, no,

(33:40):
most of what Muscus people have found has been spectacular,
but now spent. It's all being spent on sending our
fleets and air forces and their soldiers to the Middle
East to support an absolutely pointless country in terms of
the interests of the United States. I'm much further away

(34:01):
from Trump, I think than I was seventy days ago.
Sixty days ago, but not despairing, but just wondering what happened.
And if there's not a change, I think we're headed
for a resurgence of of idiots. Maybe there's you know,

(34:28):
and he is a couple of them. You mentioned Rubio,
that lunatic who is the Department of Defense chief. The
rest of them seem to be not very public, except
for the women like you.

Speaker 1 (34:41):
You just hit you just hit on something here. I
don't know if jeff'sware of it. Jeff, are you aware
that this guy headset brought his wife to some you know,
highly classified meetings just recently and and this is not
the first time, second time, and you know these these
no military high brass so like, hey, wait a minute, man,

(35:02):
you know she she doesn't have clearance. And then he
wants to bring his brother for a job at the Pentagon.
I mean, this is not Fox News, you know, what's
what do you what's up with that? You know?

Speaker 2 (35:13):
I don't know, I mean I did, I did see that,
and and I feel like and I and I agree
with doctor Showyer as well. In general, I feel like
the last you know, since Trump's gotten into office, I
feel like there's been a change in like what we
voted for, Like right, you know, there's a difference between
what we voted for and what he's what he's actually
doing right now, Like what like what we voted for

(35:35):
wasn't let's let's conquer Canada. What we voted for, wasn't
let's conquer Greenland and as absorb it, you know, and
bring it like like like doctor Shuyer said, it's like
you bring in Canada as the fifty first state, like
you guys realize that they are a decently socialist country,
like like they are, they would be flaming Democrats and

(35:56):
and you know, it's it's like why why would we
even consider it or talk about it?

Speaker 1 (36:01):
But he's never spoken about it during a campaign. He
never once said anything about Greenland in Canada. And it's
like a smoking mirrors, you know, this is like behind
the curtain, the Wizard of Ours kind of stuff. Jeff,
I have another question also, remember we used to get
these stats with Apple, you know, where we were around
the globe and where we were on the on the charts.

(36:23):
They don't even do that anymore for the show, as
do they there's no.

Speaker 2 (36:26):
More so so the one the one entity that that
was doing that ended up closing down. I think it
got bought out by like Spotify or something like that.
So now so now Spotify, I think they have their
own internal rankings, but I haven't even been able to
I haven't even like looked to see how to how
to look at that and all that. But yeah, I
think it used to be like chartable or something like that,
and they.

Speaker 1 (36:47):
Used to get there because we were on like at
one point we had twelve countries, you had like six. Yeah,
you know, we were like, I mean you were like
hot to trot in one country like number two or
three Denmark. I forgot what it was where you know,
every week you were hitting it in Australia in Denmark,
and then you were in Japan big time for a while.
And then we had like I don't know, eleven twelve

(37:08):
at the height of where we we really were in
the high right, I mean, we were less than one
hundred in a lot of those countries you know on
the Apple, you know, people listening on the Apple. I
was just curious, like, but I know we have listener notes,
and listener notes gives you an idea of where we are,
which is good to know. I mean, you know, this
way we have an idea who's following both of us,

(37:30):
you know.

Speaker 2 (37:31):
Oh yeah, no, totally, totally. I yeah, they're definitely you know,
I need to I need to, you know, figure out
and see if there's if there's another alternative like charterabawl
on that one. But but I really I wanted to
respond to one thing that doctor Shorey was saying about Elon,
because this is another thing where it's kind of it was,
it was kind of smoking mirrors when it when it
comes to doze, right, you know, And I said from
the very beginning that if if Elon does what what's

(37:52):
promised to us, which is exposed the fraud, I exposed
the waste and kind of cleans all that up in
streamlines like that, that would be that would be phenomenal.
The concern that I have with it. There's a couple.
There's a couple of things. Number one is that you know,
is that we passed the Continuing Resolution, which basically, you know,
you know, Elon comes in there with DOS and he
makes all these cuts and all that kind of stuff,

(38:12):
and then you know, and then Trump supports the Continuing Resolution.
How many how many Continuing resolutions have we done in
a row? Was it six seven, eight something? Like that,
and then attacks Thomas Massey for opposing the Continuing Resolution,
And all the Continuing Resolution did was just refund all
the things that that Elon must expose. So what was
the whole What was the whole whole point of this?
So that's one. Then the other side of it is

(38:33):
that Elon's going in and he's making all these decisions arbitrarily.
What he should what constitution he should be doing is
exposing the fraud, finding the waste and then going back
and presenting a report to Congress. Who's who are the
House representatives is supposed to be the ones that actually
dictate the spending bills and all that kind of stuff,
and the President of the United States, But instead he's
acting as the investigator, the prosecutor, the judge, and the

(38:57):
jury and the executioner, all in one act, all at
the same time. So that's a concern. And then my
third concern with Doge is is the fact that he's
using large language models and artificial intelligence right now and
he's building these for the government. But the problem is
is that he's not licensing the AI to the government
to be government property. He's still retaining ownership. So while

(39:19):
he may be taking the data, putting into the AI
and then giving the data back. The AI is under
his control, and the AI is is learning everything that
is in the government. And so when I when I
was at the summit over the weekend, Naomi Wolf was
talking about her concerns, you know, uh, you know from
that perspective where you know, she was in a lawsuit
with with Elon over being censored in shadow Band and

(39:40):
all that kind of stuff. And then all of a sudden,
Elon goes in and now and then he went into uh,
you know, the IRS and the Treasury and like all
this kind of stuff. He has access to everybody's information.
And then so then he started being he had access
to all of Naomi's you know information, and you know,
tax returns and financials and all that kind of stuff.
And up it being that because he had access to everything,

(40:03):
he was able to use that and leverage it and
all that kind of stuff to where she ended up
being forced to settles as opposed to her being able
to actually pursue this case to the extent that she needs.
And so it's one of those things where okay, clearly
we have somebody that has conflicts of interest, you know,
he has all these kind of different kinds of government contracts.
He's going into virtually every single kind of department you
can possibly think of. And he's not properly licensing these

(40:27):
large language models and artificial intelligence to the government. He's
kind of retaining ownership, Like that's a concern. Is this
all going back into XAI again? Is he going to
become the most powerful man on the planet because he's
going to have access to the entirety of the data
that's coming out of the government. It's crazy when you
start diving into this.

Speaker 1 (40:43):
Yeah, it's like, you know, when we spend all this
money and we give it to mi T or Stanford,
you know, dapper inventions or creations, and then we'd never
get as the taxpayer who funds all this for whether
it's dop remit sent for your whatever. We don't get
any shares in the company. We don't get any shares

(41:05):
in what they do. And then they put it out
to either the military private sector. We don't see any
benefit for us. Right, it's the same program. It's constantly
and this is what happened in the automobile industry while back.
Remember when Obama was president, he basically gave the union GM.
Everybody got smoked on the on the stocks with GM

(41:25):
and Buick and so on, and now you know it's
the unions and Trump's You know, Trump doesn't understand the automobile.
He understands the hospitality industry. He doesn't understand automobiles. He
doesn't realize that. You know, ninety percent of the cars
are assembled here with parts from everywhere. And you know
your Dodge rams are coming from Mexico, your other trucks

(41:46):
coming from Mexico. Maybe the four is the only one
built in let's say Lorain, Ohio or something. You know,
I mean, nobody looked at that. And it's such a
goofball announcement to say that, you know, to put these
taxes and these companies. Remember just started back with Regan
reggae in the day when Reagan was president, the end
was up and down, and he played with the Japanese.

(42:08):
Reagan didn't even realize he thought they should buy Cadillacs
and cheval Ats. If you go to Japan, the streets
are not made for Cadillacs and Chevrolets, So why are
they gonna buy them? You know what I mean, you'd
have to have a big street. You know, they got
these little Tonka toys with wheels on them, you know,
rollerskates with wheels. So nobody understood it. I mean the
Japanese they do have some some American cars, but it's

(42:28):
not it's not a model. And Americas don't Americans don't
want to make right hand drive cars. We used to
do years ago, but we don't make them. So why
are you gonna buy them? You know? And anybody has
the right. So you have all these smart people, so
called smart people around the president. Nobody says, well, remember
the last time you're in Japan, you didn't see any
left hand cars. Most people drive right hand cars. You

(42:50):
go to Malaysia, you go to Singapore, you know, you
go to Hong Kong, it's all right hand drive. You know.
So it's just it's so dumb to do this. And
this is a major Look. It's a industry, I think
one the last I checked, Jeff, it's one and every
six people in America are related to the automobile industry
some way or another. Okay, so how do you pick

(43:11):
that one? I mean he should have picked his nose.

Speaker 2 (43:13):
But anyway, but but but here's the thing, like on
that like like I'm not. I'm not. I'm not opposed
to tariffs if used properly, right, And the thing is,
but I think the problem is that he's he's jumping
the gun way too quickly on this. I get using
tariffs and the threat of tariffs in order to negotiate.
I totally understand that the whole deal. But the problem is,

(43:35):
like you like, you're dealing with like the automobile industry, right,
It's like, you know, it's like on one, it's like,
you know, Trump wants to, you know, bring the automobile
industry back here to the country, and the whole deal.
I get that, Okay, So what you do is, as
you say, like, look, you have X number of views,
you have two years to set up manufacturing here. After
two years, we're going we're going to institute a twenty
five percent or fifty percent something insane. So you better

(43:57):
set up manufacturing here in the United States. But just
to draw this like on everybody, it's like, how how
does that help anybody? It's all it's gonna do is
screw all of us, you know. I was recently at
the Natural Products food expout in Anaheim, California. I was
talking to a lot of the brands and CEOs of
food companies, and they're all struggling right now because because
of tariffs with Canada, because a lot of them rely

(44:18):
on uh on you know, products from Canada and the
development of of their food trucks, whether it's the farmers
or the or the food companies, some of its packaging,
some of its you know, different ingredients, different things like that.
And they're like, crap, We're already running on very slim
margins and then you're gonna add tariffs on top of that.
It's it's gonna screw a lot of companies. And there's
gonna be a lot of legitimate companies that are going

(44:40):
to go out of business, uh because of because of
a lot of these decisions. Again, if used properly, tariffs
can be a very effective thing. But I feel like
we're just throwing that around wait way too fast and
wait way too uh you know, liberally, and all of
a sudden, now we're we're looking at this like this
is this is gonna screw a lot of Americans big time.

Speaker 1 (44:59):
I I spoke to somebody this morning from Florida who
said most of the snowbirds have already packed and went,
and a lot are canceling from coming down to Florida
when they come down for a month or so vacation.
You know, So that'll affect the tourism industry and bed
and breakfast B and B industry in Florida from the
people in Canada. And I'll be honest with you, Jeff.

(45:22):
You know, I live, Mike and I live in the
Valley area, and you know I see all the Canadian
license plates coming down the interstate with the r vs
and so on, you know, and there's not a lot.
You don't see a lot this month. You don't see
a lot last month. I mean, it's pretty much done deal.
You know what I mean. It's people are canceling. And
you know, here's the thing. There are they've been our

(45:45):
friends for years. And I said it on a show
with Mike. I guess last week no one remembers or
when Mike gets the button only I don't get your
face say hi, Jeff, so I get your face on here.
When when nine to eleven happened, Okay, we couldn't land
the planes in America, Okay, planes landed in Europe, planes

(46:06):
landed in Canada. It was the Canadian people who went
out to the airports and took the American people that
were coming off the plane and didn't drive into a
gymnasium or school or a stadium or a hotel. They
took them into their homes. These are our northern neighbors.
And I remember very clearly. You know, there was a

(46:29):
friend of mine who was a Canadian ambassador and he
had a going away party in Washington and I attended
it and we spoke about that, and I think there
was three of us in a room of thirty who
actually remembered that. They said, oh, wow, I didn't even
know that these are our these are our neighbors in
the North. Now they may have a cuckoo bird kind
of government, which we have in a democratic party, which

(46:51):
is you know what they are, but you know, these
are our neighbors. Mike went to school up there. I
vacationed up there in the summer in the winter as
a young guy, you know, teen years We would go
up there, a bunch of guys from New York City,
you know, and they're nice people. They're just nice people.
So to hammer them on the head and say this
is that, isn't it bad enough? What they went through

(47:13):
with Trudeau. And you remember the truckers. Remember the truckers
what they did to them. They canceled their bank accountants
and all this other stuff, and they had to do
go fundmes. And those guys were on the front line
with those eighteen wheelers around Toronto, Ottawa. I mean, come on,
mister Trump, these are no other neighbors. These are people
who took us into their homes when nine to eleven happened.

(47:36):
Nobody wants to remember, you know, good people. These people
that lived there are not the government. I mean some
of the people lived there a government, but not all
of them. But look at the effect it's going to
have big time. Like you say, just in food, there's
a lot of stuff that comes out of candidate. It's
organic too, right, and a lot of products. Yeah, I
mean I see labels all the time. And I know

(47:57):
you're on top of this because your wife's on top
of it. You watch this.

Speaker 2 (47:59):
Clothes too, Yeah, well yeah, and it's it's just something
that a lot of people don't don't think through. And
it's like there there's a lot there's a I get
saying like look Canada, if if, if you're not gonna
help us with X Y, and Z or you know,
I think Trump was using like illegal immigration or you know,
drug smuggling or whatever it is. If you're not gonna
help us with that, we're gonna withhold our funding of

(48:20):
your government. Okay, I get that. To me, that that
that's a that's a fair negotiation tactic. Do do what
you need to do, be responsible, you know, help us,
help us fix this problem, and then we'll keep well,
we'll we'll keep the aid going X, Y and Z. Fine,
that's that's fine. But I feel like we're now we're
we're positioning ourselves as it's like we're we're becoming enemies
of everybody, and and to me, that's not America first,

(48:43):
like like we need to put our interest first. And
you know, it's like stop funding wars, stop getting involved
with wars, the whole deal. But that doesn't also mean
that we need to start screwing everybody and turn everybody
and and their mother into an enemy. Like now we're
just gonna be an island all all off by ourselves.
And and again, Canada, we've had a pretty decent relationship

(49:05):
with them over the years. You know, Mexico obviously can
be a little bit more hostile again we're dealing with
the cartels and like all that kind of stuff. But
it's just like, why are we just saying, like everybody,
go f yourselves, like, is this really where we need
to be right now?

Speaker 1 (49:17):
Yeah? You remember all these sixty days ago, everybody around
the world wanted to have a Trump. We want a
Trump here, we want a Trump in our country. Let's go,
let's roll this back a minute. Jeff. You might not remember, Mike, Mike,
years ago when Hong Kong was, you know, being turned
over to the communist Chinese. Okay, a lot of the
people from Hong Kong wanted to live in America. They

(49:37):
wanted to buy places in Florida, California, and we basically
denied quality people to come here. And that's what built Vancouver.
It became boom. All the people from Hong Kong ran
to Vancouver and Australia. They got the Gold Coast, right,
How did we make that move? And say, wait a minute,
they weren't qualify. These people are running out with millions

(49:57):
and millions of dollars. They just want to to escape
to freedom, and we had the nerve to say, well,
you know, not really, you know, because we like the
third world. But look what they did for Vancouver. Look
what they did to the Gold Coast in Australia. Now
I guess they regret Australia because of the jam stuff.
But you know, this is the brains of the American government.

(50:19):
And I think as we go forward, just like our
education system is a disaster, you know where we are
on the world chart. Are our leaders are elected and
non elected administrative leaders. They have a lot to to
do to shine because I could get a guy that's
pushing a car to Costco that could think better than

(50:41):
some of these people, to be honest with you, you know.

Speaker 2 (50:43):
Yeah, well, and I think specifically with with with a
lot with a lot of these issues, like I'm losing
I'm losing faith in the Trump administration to actually handle
a lot of things, a lot of these things properly.
And I feel like like there's there's not very many
Like everybody in Congress is just falling in line with
whatever Trump says. The only the only people that are
willing to take a stand against against the Trump administration
on these things are gonna be like Thomas Massey and

(51:04):
a handful of times, you know, Rand Paul. Outside of
that everybody's just like, yes, Trump, We're gonna do whatever
you want, you know, President Trump. And it's just like.

Speaker 3 (51:11):
Because they can arrange not to be blamed for it, yeah,
you know, they'll be able to say, listen, these are
all executive orders, so we had no involvement in it.
If that's what they wanted to do. The other thing,
I think what we're what we're also missing, is we're
giving the Democrats a chance not only to recover from

(51:32):
the beating they took, but to re establish their ability
to manipulate government, media and all of that stuff.

Speaker 1 (51:43):
It is.

Speaker 3 (51:44):
It is unconscionable that Trump has not arrested anybody.

Speaker 1 (51:49):
Mike, it's historical. We lose when you have the White House,
you lose the midterm, right.

Speaker 3 (51:53):
Well, it's historical, but they're working at it.

Speaker 1 (51:56):
If we all know, I mean, yeah, it's not. It's
a historical, but they're working overtime at it. That's what's happening.

Speaker 3 (52:03):
What we wanted to do, I think, is to unleash
as many as many legal arrest warrants as we could,
first to get some of those bastards in jail, but
more important to make them leave the country and were

(52:24):
missing that opportunity. The panic that they talk about in
the Democratic Party, there's no reason for it right now
except they know what they did.

Speaker 1 (52:34):
But it seems that they're out there raising tons of money.
On what's going on right now, they're raising tons of money.

Speaker 3 (52:40):
And Trump could could make sure the country was on
his side by throwing Schumer or whoever else, or Hillary
or any of these clowns at least arrest them, get
them into the courts. Why hasn't it happened the people
who killed how many million people with COVID shots that

(53:00):
they knew were lethal? Why is there no action? You
know what I'm afraid of most of all is that
Trump will somehow try to emerge himself as the reuniter
of the NATO Alliance when we could finally were on
the verge of getting rid of those Charlatan, tax eating,

(53:25):
anti white people who run the EU. I'm just afraid
he's going to step forward and say, oh, NATO is irreplaceable. Bulloney.
Let NATO see how it can do with putin by themselves.
If he has any interest in them. I think he
probably rather steered clear of any of those sexual perverts.

(53:46):
But NATO is gone. It's been gone since nineteen ninety one,
and it's just drained us of money and got us
involved in wars. So there's lots of things that Trump
can do. Why he doesn't see that, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (54:00):
Well.

Speaker 2 (54:00):
Well, and the piggyback off of what you're saying, because
it's it's a really it's a really good point, is
that you know, there were a lot of promises made
by the Trump administration and and a lot of these
you know, department heads that on day one, we're going to.

Speaker 1 (54:12):
Do X Y and Z.

Speaker 2 (54:13):
Well they've been in what office for a couple of
months now, X Y and Z has not happened. Last
I checked the Epstein files not been released. Last, last
I checked the smoking gun. When it came to the
JFK files not released. They probably just dropped that as
a big needle in a haystack and just pulled the
needle out.

Speaker 1 (54:28):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (54:28):
I think, excuse me, it's because the Israelis are involved
in both of them, and probably are involved in the
RFK assassination. That's that's the problem for them. I think.

Speaker 2 (54:40):
I'm sorry, And no, no, I mean it makes it
makes it makes perfect sense. But but the problem, the
problem is that. It's like, you know, we had all
these promises, you know, you know, uh, you know, even
RFK Junior. It's like, for the longest time, I was like, look,
we're going to deal with the COVID jabs, We're going
to deal with with Fauchi, We're gonna deal with all
these different kinds of things. And nothing's happening when it comes.
Hardly anything's happening when it comes to vaccines. Nothing's really

(55:01):
going on when it comes when it comes to the
COVID jabs and all that kind of stuff. I mean,
we still have the CDC recommending three doses of the
COVID nineteen mRNA you know shot for for children as
young as six months old like that, like that. That
is horrific. And he hasn't done any he hasn't done
anything with that. So when we're looking at this from
that perspective, it's like there was a lot of promises

(55:22):
made in a lot of expectations that were gonna happen immediately,
and it's like they're trotting out all these you know,
kind of secondary and third rate issues and saying, look
at all these things we're doing. It's like, yeah, but
what about the important things are we just gonna, you know,
distract us with all with all these other issues. We're
gonna we're gonna prosecute, you know, somebody who does twenty
thousand dollars worth of damage at a Tesla dealership for

(55:43):
twenty years in prison. But we're not gonna go after
fouc you. We're not gonna, we're not gonna deal with
with all of all the release of transparency, with all
these files and investigations. We're not gonna do the things
that we really need to do. But we're gonna we're
gonna distract you over here by dealing with all X,
Y and Z. Yeah, that's my concern with all this.

Speaker 3 (55:58):
You go and you can go right to the top
of big Pharmer. You can get gates, you can get
all of them, and you can get them in jail.
I think I don't think it'd be that hard to
indict him, given the evidence that's been out there for.

Speaker 1 (56:10):
Someone Mike, that's a good point. You could go after
a guy for burning or Tesla and give him up
to twenty years of terrorism, but a medical terrorism you
haven't done anything. The political terrorism where they pulled the
coup on his damn country. Okay, not a word, call
me Brennan fifty one, you know, X by chiefs. Not

(56:31):
a word. So I'm trying to think, now, is it
just Israel, Mike and Jeff or is it beyond that?
Or is now and this is going to go off
to the lift I'm going on the cliff with this one.
Or is Trump just part of the cabal? And people
keep saying that.

Speaker 3 (56:48):
That's certainly what it suggests in some ways that when
you don't go after someone who is clearly not only
anti American, but a criminal and perhaps a depraved individual
praying on children, you can't have to wonder why, you know,
maybe he's afraid of starting a civil war. I don't know.

(57:10):
Well let him fight, you know, let us fight. Well,
then it will end it. It won't end the country,
but it will end the problem of these democrats.

Speaker 1 (57:21):
And if you people out there listening to the show
today want the Confederate flag with the picture of the
General Michael schuer in the center, just send us an
email and I'll send you a copy. I have it.

Speaker 3 (57:37):
Mar Michael, there you go.

Speaker 2 (57:39):
But on one thing thought, doctor Schuyer, too, is that,
like you know, I think I think it's really important
when when it comes when it comes to Trump, is
that you know, Like for me, I'm looking at this like, Okay,
why aren't we doing X, Y and Z. Why aren't
we dealing with all of this? But to me, I
go back to this, and you know, you could argue
Trump is a part of the cabal, which I think
there's there's a legitimate argument to be made there. Now

(58:01):
the question is he knowingly a part of it or
or is he being used? You know, like he could
be And again, maybe I'm giving him a way too
much credit. He could be a useful idiot because he
maybe he doesn't understand.

Speaker 1 (58:13):
His ego, you know that he could be useful idiot exactly, Yeah,
because his ego goes above and beyond. You know, remember
when he was coming around second time, we heard things like, well,
his family won't be involved, this one won't be involved.
In the meantime, you got this the daughter in law
making picks for the White House. You have the daughter
making picks for the White House. You have people in
the White House that shouldn't be there, Bush people. It's

(58:35):
like having Pence and Rents previous back in there. So
come on, you know, I mean, well.

Speaker 3 (58:43):
To be compassionate for a minute too, Colonel. I think
you make a good point. I think it could well
be that Trump knows they're going to kill someone of
his family.

Speaker 1 (58:50):
Yep, yep, yep, yep.

Speaker 2 (58:52):
Yeah, it could it could be. But also, like for me,
I'm looking at a lot of a lot of these
picks and a lot of these things.

Speaker 1 (58:58):
You know.

Speaker 2 (58:58):
For example, it's like, you know, RFK Junior gets in there,
as you know, and I backed him when he was
running for president, right, he gets in there as Secretary
of h the.

Speaker 1 (59:05):
First man, Yeah, I know it was.

Speaker 2 (59:09):
So he gets in their secretary of HHS, right, and
we all expected that, you know, he would have his
his pick of the draw when it comes to the
heads of all of his departments. Well, it ends up
that the people that are getting picked, except for like
maybe a couple of them, they're all being handpicked by
Susie Wiles, who's Trump's Trump's chief of staff, was his
campaign manager, and Susie Wiles has deep ties with Big Pharma,
big food as a lobbyist and all that. And so

(59:31):
when you when you I see what's happening here, and
it seems to me that that Basically, Trump is making
the same mistake he's he made the first time around,
in the sense of, you know, he had RAN's prebous
as chief of staff and he's just replaced Ryan's previous
with Susie Wiles as his chief of staff. They're both,
in my opinion, establishment, establishment shills with deep ties with
these big corporations that are our enemies.

Speaker 1 (59:53):
Do we know who? Do we know who put her
name forward to be in there? Does anybody know? Mike?
You know digestion.

Speaker 3 (59:59):
I don't have any idea where she I know where
she came from, but I don't know who was your sponsor.

Speaker 1 (01:00:03):
Yeah, it's amazing he's alarmed themselves with It's just I
don't know anyway, guys, let's wrap it up. This is
a good show. Jeff, who was nice having you back on.

Speaker 3 (01:00:11):
Thanks for coming on, Jeff.

Speaker 2 (01:00:12):
No, it's always a blast talking to you, guys. I
always love our conversations.

Speaker 1 (01:00:16):
Alrighty, so last words go ahead, Jeff.

Speaker 2 (01:00:19):
Yeah, definitely. You know, so again, you know, the way
that I always look at everything is like I just
try to look at it from the perspective that you know,
let's figure out, figure out what you believe. Figure out
your worldview. Let's deal with the issues, and you know,
especially over the next few years, because we got a
lot of work we got to do, uh you know,
you know, moving forward, we got to open up, change minds,
open up you know, hearts and eyes and all that
kind of stuff. So we just keep talking about these things.

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Speaker 1 (01:00:57):
Mike, you need your own individual and besides the two mics,
because you write those beautiful blogs that have that literature.
It's just unbelievable. I mean that that ambience of flavorful
words that when he puts a blog up, it's amazing.
I mean, I love his blogs. He tells me, Hey,
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have great having you on my last work ahead.

Speaker 3 (01:01:30):
Just luck to you do in this endeavor, and I
hope we can help however we cancer.

Speaker 1 (01:01:34):
And I know you having your own account.

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And right now, right now it's web based only, but
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Speaker 3 (01:01:53):
Okay, yep, perfect, Thank you sir, of course.

Speaker 1 (01:01:58):
Thank you. Hey, Jeff, thanks, were talking to you, was
talking to you soon. Thank you so much.

Speaker 2 (01:02:02):
Sounds good. Thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:02:05):
Yeah,