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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Hey, welcome back to another episode of the two Mics
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you for always emailing us. This month. We January, we
didn't get that many emails, but we want to thank
you and to all of you people who tell us
(00:24):
you'd like to have other people on, we're doing that.
We're putting that list together for all of our listeners
and previous guests you're coming back. I want to recycle
as many of you that we're on. The five hundred shows.
The first five hundred shows, we had so many great
times with some of the guests, authors and so on.
All right, look, what's happening is happening? You know, Trump's in.
(00:47):
It's two point zero.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
All right.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
We'll make comments from time to time, but really what
we want to do is recycle some of the best guests.
All right, he won.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
So we got to get on with the show and
not like a two Mike show, right, So hang in
and enjoy this one.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
Look at this character Cotton in the Senate, and how
many more of those guys. They don't care about American troops.
That they care about is the Israelis.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Yeah, yeah, well Tom may Tom Massey said yes, yeah,
they all had a pac handlers yep.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
So listen, the compromise goes very deep.
Speaker 5 (01:59):
I mean, in my own personal experience, Huller Biden and
therefore his entire family, because he had spywear on all
of their technology too. This is way more than I
got with the laptop. In October of twenty eighteen, was
taken down by a four person Mosad team, a woman
named Anna who is kind of like the bait, and
(02:22):
then her three cousins from Russia. Hunter on Tank describes
these as Russians, but they were actually Mosad and I
can confirm that because Mosad came and had a little
sit down visit with me in San Juan, Puerto Rico,
February of twenty twenty two. As soon as it's them,
(02:43):
nobody does anything. I mean, think about it. Young American
girls were raped for the benefit of influence operations run
by Israeli intelligence. The most prominent among them is the
Epstein saga. And this has all been covered up too well.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
Jack, I think that's a that's an excellent point that
we're a little off topic. But I think what we're
going to find out is that they're going to have
an awful time releasing the Epstein papers, the papers that
deal with the murders of the two Kennedy brothers, because
the Israelis were involved in all of them. And that
may be another problem that Trump Scott and you must
(03:23):
have known he was going to have it before this happened.
Speaker 5 (03:26):
Well, and also again I'm so sorry, Phil, because I
want to continue to hear your story if they don't
release the later information concerning the Kennedy assassination that came
out from the Church Committee hearings, particularly those of Angleton
at CIA, and you'll know it's a cover up.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
In my opinion, I think that's exactly right.
Speaker 5 (03:46):
So yeah, well, please continue with your story because it's.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
Well well, Jack, You're right, I mean, everything, everything ties
back into one group. And you know, I've had some
of the greatest people, people like you, you know, that
are interested in America first, I mean the real America first,
not a foreign foreign country. But like Admiral Thomas Moore,
(04:15):
he was one of our biggest champions. He asked the
Congress over and over again to investigate this, and they
wouldn't do it, So they failed. Admiral Arley Burke is
another friend of mine. He couldn't figure out why we
didn't protect that ship. He's been the only time in
(04:36):
American history they didn't protect the ship when it was
under attack. Can you believe that?
Speaker 2 (04:43):
And we were.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
Always in international waters too, We were never out of
international waters. We were twelve point five miles off the
coast of Sinai. So yeah, we were dead men walking
and didn't know it.
Speaker 5 (04:58):
Do you think there's any chance that you're own government
participated in putting you in that situation?
Speaker 3 (05:04):
Absolutely? We were set up probably a year in advance,
because they just didn't whip this up in a couple
of days. They sent us there for a reason. And
you know, there was another All the ships were going
the other way, Jack, and we were the only one
going that way. There was another spy ship there. It
(05:26):
was a civilian Manda SS Valdis. They took it at
out of the area. It could have done the same
thing we were doing, but sinking the SS Valdis with
civilian crew members aboard it didn't sound quite as sexy
as sinking the USS Liberty with two hundred and ninety
(05:47):
four American sailors and marines aboard it, and two hundred
of the crew were spooks, all spies and the rest
of us. I was in ship's company. I was in engineering,
but our only job was to get them to point
A to point B and make sure they were taken
care of.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
How many of you phil are left?
Speaker 3 (06:11):
That's a good question, too, Jack. I would say, I
want to say fifty, but I don't think it's that many.
I mean, I'm pushing eighty, so you know, i'd say
forty forty five, maybe thirty five and a lot of
(06:34):
If there was any of them out there that don't
want to talk and haven't talked, they're out there, but
they're so damn afraid to talk. They just they don't
say anything to nobody, you know. I went to this
one guy's house. He was a friend of mine in engineering.
Well this has been thirty five years ago up in Minnesota,
(06:55):
and we were good friends aboard the ship, and he's
just stand and watch for me and everything, and he
came out on the porch. I was with another friend
of mine, Larry Thorn, he was also aboard the ship,
to go up and see him, and he come out
with a gun and said, you guys, get off my property.
I want nothing to do with the USS liberties. Don't
(07:16):
ever bring it up again. If you come on my
property again, I'm gonna shoot you.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
We left. So that's the way they felt, some of them.
But I'd like to say when you no one should
get by with cold blood premeditated murder, not even Israel,
especially being set up our own government, our own government
sacrificed us.
Speaker 5 (07:40):
Let's say you wanted to get together the group of
survivors who you know who want to talk about it.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
How many people would that be that.
Speaker 5 (07:47):
You could literally put it in a chair and testify
and everything else.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
I would say about twenty. And they're officers, uh, enlisted
and CIA personnel to officers and enlisted. They can testify
and will testify if they would just invite us to congress.
But they will not do that. They're afraid of the truth.
(08:17):
I mean, they're they're all bought and paid for. Tom
Massey said, you know, they all got an a PAC handler.
You go through a PAK and a d L and
they get their orders straight from from those guys. And
if they want to keep their job in Congress and
get re elected, get those million or two million dollar donations.
They told the line for Israel not to the United States.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
How often do you guys get together?
Speaker 3 (08:43):
Well, we've been Yeah, we've been trying to get together
Mike every uh year. This year we're in Norfolk, Virginia. Uh.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Well, tell us a little bit about that. Let's promote
that right now on the show. I understand, and you
do have something coming up, gohead, so tell us about Norfolk.
So some of our people in you know, the Hampton
Rose area, Virginia or DC, want to go down there.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Go ahead.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
Yeah, it's at the Sheridan Inn in Norfolk, and we're
going to have three days of celebration and we have
a beautiful monument there that in fact I had made
up right here in my little town here of some
fabulous artists and stuff. It's all marble. It's the same
(09:33):
marble that all the monuments are made out of in Washington,
d C. To come out of marble Colorado. The marble
was donated and the the artwork on it costs US
around one hundred thousand dollars. But we raised the money
for that. We tried to get the Navy Museum to
take it. They didn't want it.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
Yeah, oh my gosh.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
We tried to get the National Security Agency to take it.
They didn't want it. Tried to get the Cold War
Museum to take it. They didn't want it. So the
government wants it buried up and buried up and buried up. Finally,
we got a VFW Post forty eighth nine in Tide Water, Virginia,
(10:17):
and that's where we're going to have our ceremony for
the dead on the seventh, uh forty eighth nine VFW.
And they took it, and I'm proud they did. And
it's standing tall as it should be, and it's a beautiful,
beautiful monuments almost six foot tall, well a little over
(10:40):
six foot tall, and both sides are beautifully done. It's
just a magnificent monument that our government didn't want. But
it was other veterans coming to help other veterans at
this VFW post, which is pretty outstanding. You can't go
to your government, but you can go to your veterans.
(11:02):
And if they're not, if I can say this bought
and paid for, like the American Legion is, we got
banned from the American Legion. We wanted a booth there.
We seven a thousand dollars check. This has been I
don't know five years ago, six years ago national convention.
Two of my shipmates went there, Glenn Oliphant and Ernie Gallo.
(11:29):
There was no booth and we said, well they did.
This is what they told me. Ernie, I'll just give
you a check or use my credit card and they
can pay me back if you didn't get the check.
We're still want the booth. And they said, no, you're
not going to have a booth here. You're not going
to have a booth. So Glenn took up these America
(11:52):
took his American American Legion card out and tore it
up into tiny little pieces and dropped it and a
couple of pieces fell on a woman's breast. She had
him arrested for assault and he went to jail. This
is a combat wounded veteran trying to tell the truth
of the rest of the American Legion. They bannis for life.
(12:15):
You're not never allowed to come back to the American Legion.
So screw them. I tore up my car too. I
want none to do with them.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Amazing, totally amazing.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
My gosh, God.
Speaker 5 (12:30):
For you know, sticking to your guns man. This is
a story that needs to be told, and particularly now
as they're attempting to draw us into another conflict. I
believe in the Middle East it will not be to
our benefit.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
No, that's that's coming. I mean, they just stopped a
free flow of aid. If there was that jack into Gaza.
Now they are not getting any more food or water
or anything like that. So I don't know what's going
to happen. I can't I can't change that, none of
us can. But we can talk about it. And the
(13:07):
USS liberty is a straw that will break the camel's
back because we're the red hat top of the head
of the spear, a live people that were there and
saw carnages put upon America. When they've tacked our ship.
They've attacked a flagged American ship. That's an act of war.
And nobody did nothing anything about it, not even not
(13:31):
even the what is it the Geneva Conventions? What was it?
You attacked one? You attack all? Yeah, yeah, NATO our
Article five and nobody come to help us. And nobody's
come to help us yet except people like you, you know,
(13:52):
on alternative media, and you know, I might say if
I could give a little advertisement for the USS Liberty, Well,
thank you. I appreciate that. We're a very small organization
and we take donations so I can travel, and others
if they if they can or they're willing to go
(14:14):
around the country and educate people about the USS Liberty
and what they did to us and what they did
to America, and just go to Ussliberty Veterans dot org.
USS Liberty Veterans dot org. If you want to donate
by credit card or whatever, and if you would like
(14:35):
to send a check, send it to a Liberty Veterans
PO Box three thousand, Paulsy's Island, South Carolina, two nine
five eight five. Again, PO Box three thousand, Polsy's paw
(14:57):
l e Ys Island, South Carolin. I am two nine
five eight five. All donations are tax deductible. We're a
five oh one three c. How we got that, we
haven't taken it away from us yet, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
Yeah, well, we have very good patriots that listen to
the two mics for more than five years now, and
I'm sure we'll have a few people contact you and
it's this is just an amazing story. That's got to
be continued to be told till ever you last one
of you are gone, you.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
Know, absolutely, And that's my feeling totally. You know, I'm
not going to shut up, Tom Jed Why should I?
Now I've had I've been threatened. Uh. I can't tell
you how many times to shut up. But it's too
late for me to shut up. I'm not doing it.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
And the irony is the name of the ship was
the USS Liberty Right with a big flag, brand new
one up there flying. They knew it. And like you say,
our government set it up, and they probably set it
up a year in advance. It took them that much
time to figure it out. And we had Linda Johnson,
Nixon Ford and you can go on and on all
(16:12):
the way to Donald Trump one and two, and no one,
no one has said, Okay, you know we have to
we have to expose this and and give these guys
some medals. And this is a sin on our government.
You know, Germany's paying for the Holocaust and the war forever.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
You know, they pay the survivors and everybody who commits
these sins has to pay for the rest of their life.
And and somehow we we do not. We do not
promote for giving uh you people, I mean for what's
taken place. The American people owe you a debt of
(16:50):
apology because of our are really bought and paid for
governments that we've had since Lyndon Johnson. And and that's
the reason why Kennedy was gone. And these Kennedy files
are never going to be there. You saw what happened
last week with the shit show They put up the
three ring binders. They showed you the cover like a
little kid in school play. Nobody opened it up and
(17:13):
read one line. There was nothing in there to read.
They just paraded them out there. Jack. Did you notice
that shit show? Jack?
Speaker 2 (17:21):
Which one are we talking about?
Speaker 1 (17:23):
When they came out with the binders last week at
the White House, they all had a Jeffrey Epstein binder
with nothing inside.
Speaker 5 (17:31):
Listen, you know I've been saying it for years that
this was a Masad operation. I mean, Gislaine Maxwell's father,
Robert Maxwell's buried on the Mount of Olives as a
great hero of Israel, was working for Mosad, and Gislaine
was largely doing for her father of what she later
(17:52):
ended up doing for Jeffrey Epstein, and just a little
ironic twist to all of this, actually went on a
triple date with Gislaine Maxwell, probably like nineteen ninety one,
and to this day, the other five people who are
on that date we talk about her as this awful
human being who we couldn't stand. This is long before
(18:16):
Epstein ever gets arrested. But she did the same thing
for her father in England. That's how Prince Andrew was
drawn into the Epstein thing. So we can't undervalue the
nature of blackmail in the way in which they relate
to the US government. US government officials, intimidation, you name it.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
Yeah, this is their stock in trade.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
Bet blackmail. They've got them, and I don't think they'll
ever Maybe they well, at least some of it, I
don't know, but I just think a little bit would
be detrimental to so many different people, and they don't
want that, of course. But we go back to Kennedy,
as you were saying earlier, Uh, you know, he was
(19:08):
totally against, totally against Israel getting nukes and the moaning
and he said that and sooner after that he was
he was assassinated. And you know Lindon Johnson, that snake
when he got sworn in and everything, and then he
(19:31):
he told Israel, you had a friend in Kennedy, but
now you have really found a good friend with me.
And they did. They cooked up a plan to destroy
an American ship, spy ship, send us to the bottom,
and get us into World War three. And we were
(19:52):
damn close, guys, our ship not to sink and saved
millions of lives. Millions of lives, that's how close it was.
It's frightening even think about it. But God had a plan,
He knew what was going on. He had a plan.
He says, you ain't going to sink this ship. And
they didn't. Can you imagine the mighty idea for two
(20:12):
frickin hours of nothing but pure hell, nowhere to run,
nowhere to hide. They couldn't sink an old World War
two victory whole ship. So we kicked our ass and
didn't fire a shot.
Speaker 5 (20:29):
Wasn't there at one point when you guys actually put
up a larger flag two that.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
Was yes, that was the last flag. That was the
last flag we put up. It was seven by thirteen
Holiday callers. They shot two of the other brand new
flags we had down had jack. They were five by
eight flags. And this holiday callers is for holidays, right,
Well you know what I'm talking about. And you could
(20:57):
see that thing forever. When the tour pedo boats got there,
they said they could see no flag. That flag was
we had twelve knots of wind coming over the deck.
They could see that flag. And also one of the
pilots was recorded, and we we have that information too.
Uh but Sir's American ship. But sir is American ship.
(21:19):
You have your orders. Hit it, and hit it they did,
and the consequences are well known.
Speaker 5 (21:26):
And this was from the later transcripts that we got
from NSA.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
Right, Yes, yeah, nsay or c I A or right?
Who knows?
Speaker 5 (21:37):
Were you guys instrumental in getting those things out?
Speaker 3 (21:41):
Yes, yes, we've been trying and well we got them,
but nobody cares if we got him. They don't mean
anything to him. You know, it's black and white voice
voice transmissions and uh, nothing, nothing happens. I mean, I
(22:01):
still can't get it now after fifty seven, be close
to fifty eight years in June that this would happen,
and we would still be fighting to get it done.
To tell the truth. I mean, to have the world know,
not just America. But the world know exactly what the
hell happened with these people, not just in Israel, but
(22:22):
our government is just as guilty of cold blood and
murder of their own citizens as Israel because they're the
ones that hired the hitmen, and the hitmen just couldn't
couldn't get the job done. So tell me how badass
the IDF is.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
Well they get.
Speaker 5 (22:38):
Improven their failure in the last eighteen months in Gaza.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
I mean, yeah, they couldn't do what the Marines did
in Fallujah, and door to door was not part of
their menu.
Speaker 5 (22:50):
No, But what I want to also ask you about
the captain ends up getting the Congressional Medal of Honor, right,
and the ship is one of the most decorated ships
in US history. How were you guys given your decorations
for valor, et cetera. I mean, was that in the
(23:10):
oval office for the Medal of Honor?
Speaker 2 (23:13):
Or?
Speaker 5 (23:15):
Was this done before a big command down in Norfolk,
you know, with a parade or.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
How was it done?
Speaker 3 (23:25):
Well? The old man he got his Medal of Honor
at the shipyard in Norfolk, Virginia. It was a very
small group of people, and you know, usually the Medal
of honor was presented by the President of the United
States in the Oval Office or the East Room or
wherever they want to do it. Right West winged it,
(23:48):
but that never happened, so the cover up still continued.
Then it was very low key, not a lot of fanfare,
but a lot of I didn't get uh my awards
till after the fact, after I was out of the Navy,
(24:09):
and that was at a recruiting station in Colorado that
they gave me a bronze star with a V and
a lot of other stuff. There's no needy to go
into that, but purple Heart and combat action, just on
and on. But that was with no fan fair either not.
(24:30):
You know, I really didn't think too much about a medal.
I didn't. I didn't ask for one or any medal.
I was just happy to get out of there with
my life. But about a year after the attack, he
finally ran me down and I was awarded those.
Speaker 4 (24:48):
Unbelieving me, sir, if you could give me your give
me the dates once more of your manual.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
Meeting, Yes, would you get that piece and paiper for
me the reunion stuff. My wife's gonna get me there,
all right, sir, you.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
Talk about an all Folk Mike, Yes, we have that.
We have that film, Mike, we have that. Okay, yeah,
Funny supplied that to us.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
Thank you, Okay, good, good deal, all right? Yeah, but uh,
thank you, Hony. The Uh, the only one we're going
to get this done is through people like you. And
you know, yeah, I've been crying like a smash cat
for years and years and years and get rebuffed. You know,
(25:37):
I write letters to Congress and they say there's already
been an investigation. They're liars. There's never been an investigation.
The only investigation there was was a Board of Inquiry
which was set up to begin with John McCain Jr.
Admiral John S. McCain Jr. He he he was part
of the cover up. Uh. And LBJ directly said, I
(26:01):
want this done in seven days and find it as
a mistaken identity period leave the rest of it alone.
That's what they did.
Speaker 5 (26:10):
What's Admiral kids relationship to all this? He must have
been involved in the cover up from day one?
Speaker 3 (26:17):
Yeah, Oh yeah, yeah they were. They were ordered to
find it was a mistaken identity and yeah, I think
the high brass where I know John McCain, Uh, John
McCain's daddy, John McCain senior or junior blag admiral. He
was head of European Forces Europe, a supreme commander. You know,
(26:42):
he was in on it. There was probably four or
five handful of them that were in on it, and
they did a good job too. And they're they're still
holding it back with people they're too afraid to go
up against. Uh. This in a state with the truth.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
Terrifying it is.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
I mean, yeah, it is terrifying. It's just it's you must.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
Have been you must have been told one hundred times
how brave you are, and I'm just gonna make it
or a thousand or ten thousand times. I'm just going
to add it to it, because you're a brave man
to survived. God has blessed you, and you're brave to
go on the road. I mean, listen, it takes bravery
to do what you're doing and expose what our country.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
And we do this.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
We do this on the two mics, we do this
on a National Security our, on America out Loud, which
is a First Amendment freedom of speech network, because this
is all we got. I mean, if you don't want
to stick up for what we have, you know, the Constitution.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
Then you don't want.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
We don't have. We don't have what we think we have.
It's it's just a dream. It's a fantasy. Our own
country and our own country. Look, the younger people and
people that have woken up now for the last couple
of years, realize we'd oidation. Let's not kid ourselves. Let's
not say that. Yeah, we're you know, we're all about
truth and democracy. We have a new Secretary of State.
(28:08):
The first thing he does, the first act he does,
is allow four billion dollars war and weapons to go
to Israel. And he didn't even go to the Senate.
He didn't even get congressional approval. It's one of their boys. Hey,
just send it over, you know. I mean, we got
to stop. We got people in tents in North Carolina.
We got people homeless all over this country. Somebody did
(28:30):
a statistic the other day. We have given since the
beginning of Israel, the average family has given over three
hundred and forty five thousand dollars per family, per person
I'm sorry, per person in America, all right, towards Israel's
survival and benefits. I mean, come on, we don't do
this for our own people. So let's not kid ourselves anymore.
(28:53):
We're talking on the two mics. We talk free speech.
I mean, this show today is every one of you
who listen. Whether you like it or not, you can comment.
I don't care, you know, we don't care about that.
But just push it out there and push it to
all your friends and family who are in the tank
for the Ukraine and Israel. This is what our country
has gone through. This is what Phil and the crew
(29:16):
at the USS Liberty has gone through. The survive and
God bless you Phil, God bless you and the rest
of you guys.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
You know, Oh that's I really appreciate that. Thank you
so much. Well, God bless you guys too. I mean,
it takes courage to talk about this subject, you know.
And you know, I've been cut off of YouTube for
a while and I've been banned from Facebook for life
(29:43):
because of my comments. But with the alternative media and
social media and x X is actually pretty good. I
can't believe it, but they haven't censured me yet, but
it takes it.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
They were pretty good.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
They're allowing some stuff on there. But we have a
listener who follows us and he's I put him on
the show a couple of times with Mike, who says,
what you allow your country to do to other people,
eventually they will allow you, will allow.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
Him to do it to yourself.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
And that's what's happened to us. We allowed our country
to do some bad things, and now they do it
to us. I mean they've been doing it a tout
for years. You know. You know, Jack's a free speech guy.
Mike is his free speech guy. He's got the blog
non hyphen Intervention two dot com. He's been thrown off
a couple of times. You know, the A listers, they
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go after him from time to time and tell tell
him take down stuff. But you know, Mike, Mike, how
many years you got the blog up there? Oh?
Speaker 4 (30:44):
It must be about fifteen years now, fifteen years.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
Jack's been on various shows, he was co host and
hosting shows. And you know when when everything hit the
fan during the pandemic and Jack was right out there
will hunt the laptop. I mean, he put his life
out there too. That's another hero salute to you too.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
Jack. Oh, thank you, I mean, I mean good company.
Speaker 5 (31:08):
If we're talking about that question that I had for you,
Phil again kind of a technical one. When they reconstructed
the ship for its you know, debut back on the
east coast in Malta. There's gotta be some photographic record
of the battle, damage and the repairs, even if we're
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just talking about engineering records.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
Have you guys in your hands on that stuff.
Speaker 3 (31:35):
Yeah, we've We've got a lot of it. It's on
our site USS Liberty Veterans dot org. You can go
there and check it out. We're building a new site
now because we're getting more traction. We ever did Jack,
you know, because well in the last nine months it's
been it's been coming out more and more and more.
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Candae Owens did a wonderful interview. I was very pleased,
very honored to be with her. But she she busted
the door wide open. And you guys are the busting
the door open. It takes all of us to get
this right and write your congressman, see what they tell you,
but be prepared to be lied to. So you know,
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just like your laptop, you turned over the laptop from hell.
Look how they skated by that one.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
And I actually ran a cover up.
Speaker 5 (32:36):
I mean I actually believe that Comer and Jordan ran
a multi year cover up. Peter Strock's wife was made
head of sec enforcements. So problem on the Wall Street side, right.
I think the whole thing has been a cover up
in some regards. I think what laptop was covered up,
not so much because of the biolabs in Ukraine and
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the evidence CIA funding and Wuhan and all these really
horrible things. I think it was covered up because it's
obvious that Israeli intelligence took down Hunter Biden in October
of twenty eighteen.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
I mean there's video evidence. I mean there's pictures of
all these people.
Speaker 5 (33:17):
There's stuff went to the cloud that they didn't realize
and Hunter saved it.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
Hunter talks about it.
Speaker 5 (33:26):
But again, this is Israeli intelligence operating at will inside
the United States of America. And this is the new normal,
or maybe it's maybe it's always been the normal and
I'm just being getting the revelations of how it actually.
Speaker 4 (33:42):
Only it was the British in nineteen thirty eight to
forty one that tried to that made sure we got
into that damn war. Again. It's the same thing with
the Israelis, although they're much more sophisticated.
Speaker 3 (33:54):
Yes, yeah, well they sophisticated because of the good old USA.
But uh in nineteen seventy three, that was a young
compare war right now, Yes, yeah, admir Moore he was
still active uty then he was former Chairman of the
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Joint's Staff twice. And also he's the only admiral in
the United States never that that controlled at one time
the European Forces and then he went to the Pacific Forces.
He was a supreme commander. He's the only ones ever
accomplished that. He h there was an Israelily an ambassador.
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I do forget his name, I can I can find
it though, but he told the Admiral Moore that he
wanted this, this, this and this and this and this,
and Admiral Moore says, I can't do that. You have
to go through Congress. And he got stern with the
Admiral says, just get me what I told you I
needed and I'll take care of Congress and I'll be damn.
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He got everything they wanted. He got it for him because.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
Of it's back in seventy three. Now, back in seventy.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
Three, yeah, right, you know, it was only six years
after the liberty got hit. So who controls this country?
They didn't pay it. I mean, listen, when you murder somebody,
you do the crime. You know you got to do
the time. I don't. There's no statute of limitations on murder,
and there's no statue of limitations on war crimes. So
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what is our government hide? And how bad is it?
Is it just as bad as the Epstein files? Is
it bad as the Kennedy files? RFK Martin Luther King Junior?
Is it as bad as those? Or is it worse?
Who knows?
Speaker 1 (35:55):
It's probably worse Phille. But I wouldn't I wouldn't sign
off today without saying to our evangelical friends in the
Protestant community, the evangelical community, take your heads out of
your ass. Just take your heads out of your ass.
You're at that pulpit every week pounding away about the
only democracy and our only ally, and God blesses those
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in Genesis, God blesses those who bless Israel. You know,
let's take it for what it's worth, all right. These
are not the Israelites, These are not the Jews of
the Bible. You know, it only takes a fifth grade
education to figure that out. Already, Schofield Bible was financed
by who you'll get the answer to that one. And
that's what they did, and they got you all convinced.
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The John Hagees and the guy that's hanging around Trump,
Robert Jeffries, by the way. Robert Jeffers, by the way,
was the first guy when the steel went down on
the twenty twenty election, was the first guy to kick
Trump to the curb. He was in the White House
every month, but when the steel went down, he called
the president said nope, what's his name? Joseph R. Biden
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is the new president, So just stop what you're doing.
That was his best friend, and he still comes to
the White House. So just take your heads out of
your ass, like I said, and you know, smell the roses.
This is a survivor an attack on our country, an
attack on our ship, and attack on American citizens and
almost World War three. All right, I'm just saying it
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like it is. I got to wrap at that. Phil,
you got the last word. Go ahead, Jack, Phil, Mike,
whoever wants to go for it.
Speaker 3 (37:31):
Well. First of all, I want to thank all you
guys for your kindness and your support. It means the
world to me. You take time out for us to
hear the story and remember, and I hope you tell
other people. We need to support Usslibtyveterans dot org or
the address I gave you Polsey's Island. We need all
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the help we can get if we if we want
to get the word out, and you know, hopefully if
you guys can make it, come on down the reunion.
You'll see some survivors there and other dignitaries. I bet
you'd be welcome with open arms.
Speaker 1 (38:12):
Jack, go ahead.
Speaker 5 (38:14):
Now, I just want to confirm, fellow, that's on March seventh,
and tell us the VFW hall again.
Speaker 3 (38:21):
No, it's it's not on March seventh, it's June sixth,
seventh and eighth.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
June sixth, seventh, eighth.
Speaker 3 (38:30):
Yeah, and now that that's in Norfolk, Virginia at the Sheridan.
You guys said you had that information right.
Speaker 1 (38:36):
Yeah, we got it from Fuddy or produce.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
We're going to put it in a footnotes.
Speaker 4 (38:39):
Mike, go ahead. I just wanted to thank you, sir
for your your presentation and your ability to deliver not
only the experience but the details associated with it. There's
no one really in the right mind who could not
think you're telling the truth. And that an operation which occurred. First,
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the first step was observing where you were. Then there
were an aircraft attack, and then there was a motor
boat attack. Clearly, or a motor torpedo attack. Clearly, you're
you're you're telling the absolute truth in a painful way
for all of us to listen to, but certainly something
the American people need to know. And we will do
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our bit as much as we can to uh get
your story out into the into the media and see
what happens. But God bless you and and all of
the all of the crew.
Speaker 3 (39:38):
Well, thank you, and I'll relay that and uh, if
you guys can help me in any other way, get
me on any other show, we will. Let's just go
get them because it's gonna Oh listen, remember what Hillary said,
it takes a village.
Speaker 1 (39:52):
But we could take that advice, right, Yeah. Film saluting
philm saluting you, bravos, as we say in the navy, bravos, Zulu,
I'm saluting you and the crew. Thank you.
Speaker 3 (40:05):
I salute you guys too. God bless you and have
a great day.
Speaker 1 (40:09):
Thank you, sir, Thank you,
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The first five hundred shows, we had so many great
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All right, look, what's happening is happening? You know, Trump's in.
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It's two point zero.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
All right.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
We'll make comments from time to time, but really what
we want to do is recycle some of the best guests.
All right, he won.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
That's it.
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So we got to get on with the show and
not like a two Mike show, right, So hang in
and enjoy this one.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
Look at this character Cotton in the Senate, and how
many more of those guys. They don't care about American troops.
That they care about is the Israelis.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Yeah, yeah, well Tom may Tom Massey said yes, yeah,
they all had a pac handlers yep.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
So listen, the compromise goes very deep.
Speaker 5 (01:59):
I mean, in my own personal experience, Huller Biden and
therefore his entire family, because he had spywear on all
of their technology too. This is way more than I
got with the laptop. In October of twenty eighteen, was
taken down by a four person Mosad team, a woman
named Anna who is kind of like the bait, and
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then her three cousins from Russia. Hunter on Tank describes
these as Russians, but they were actually Mosad and I
can confirm that because Mosad came and had a little
sit down visit with me in San Juan, Puerto Rico,
February of twenty twenty two. As soon as it's them,
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nobody does anything. I mean, think about it. Young American
girls were raped for the benefit of influence operations run
by Israeli intelligence. The most prominent among them is the
Epstein saga. And this has all been covered up too well.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
Jack, I think that's a that's an excellent point that
we're a little off topic. But I think what we're
going to find out is that they're going to have
an awful time releasing the Epstein papers, the papers that
deal with the murders of the two Kennedy brothers, because
the Israelis were involved in all of them. And that
may be another problem that Trump Scott and you must
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have known he was going to have it before this happened.
Speaker 5 (03:26):
Well, and also again I'm so sorry, Phil, because I
want to continue to hear your story if they don't
release the later information concerning the Kennedy assassination that came
out from the Church Committee hearings, particularly those of Angleton
at CIA, and you'll know it's a cover up.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
In my opinion, I think that's exactly right.
Speaker 5 (03:46):
So yeah, well, please continue with your story because it's.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
Well well, Jack, You're right, I mean, everything, everything ties
back into one group. And you know, I've had some
of the greatest people, people like you, you know, that
are interested in America first, I mean the real America first,
not a foreign foreign country. But like Admiral Thomas Moore,
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he was one of our biggest champions. He asked the
Congress over and over again to investigate this, and they
wouldn't do it, So they failed. Admiral Arley Burke is
another friend of mine. He couldn't figure out why we
didn't protect that ship. He's been the only time in
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American history they didn't protect the ship when it was
under attack. Can you believe that?
Speaker 2 (04:43):
And we were.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
Always in international waters too, We were never out of
international waters. We were twelve point five miles off the
coast of Sinai. So yeah, we were dead men walking
and didn't know it.
Speaker 5 (04:58):
Do you think there's any chance that you're own government
participated in putting you in that situation?
Speaker 3 (05:04):
Absolutely? We were set up probably a year in advance,
because they just didn't whip this up in a couple
of days. They sent us there for a reason. And
you know, there was another All the ships were going
the other way, Jack, and we were the only one
going that way. There was another spy ship there. It
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was a civilian Manda SS Valdis. They took it at
out of the area. It could have done the same
thing we were doing, but sinking the SS Valdis with
civilian crew members aboard it didn't sound quite as sexy
as sinking the USS Liberty with two hundred and ninety
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four American sailors and marines aboard it, and two hundred
of the crew were spooks, all spies and the rest
of us. I was in ship's company. I was in engineering,
but our only job was to get them to point
A to point B and make sure they were taken
care of.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
How many of you phil are left?
Speaker 3 (06:11):
That's a good question, too, Jack. I would say, I
want to say fifty, but I don't think it's that many.
I mean, I'm pushing eighty, so you know, i'd say
forty forty five, maybe thirty five and a lot of
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If there was any of them out there that don't
want to talk and haven't talked, they're out there, but
they're so damn afraid to talk. They just they don't
say anything to nobody, you know. I went to this
one guy's house. He was a friend of mine in engineering.
Well this has been thirty five years ago up in Minnesota,
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and we were good friends aboard the ship, and he's
just stand and watch for me and everything, and he
came out on the porch. I was with another friend
of mine, Larry Thorn, he was also aboard the ship,
to go up and see him, and he come out
with a gun and said, you guys, get off my property.
I want nothing to do with the USS liberties. Don't
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ever bring it up again. If you come on my
property again, I'm gonna shoot you.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
We left. So that's the way they felt, some of them.
But I'd like to say when you no one should
get by with cold blood premeditated murder, not even Israel,
especially being set up our own government, our own government
sacrificed us.
Speaker 5 (07:40):
Let's say you wanted to get together the group of
survivors who you know who want to talk about it.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
How many people would that be that.
Speaker 5 (07:47):
You could literally put it in a chair and testify
and everything else.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
I would say about twenty. And they're officers, uh, enlisted
and CIA personnel to officers and enlisted. They can testify
and will testify if they would just invite us to congress.
But they will not do that. They're afraid of the truth.
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I mean, they're they're all bought and paid for. Tom
Massey said, you know, they all got an a PAC handler.
You go through a PAK and a d L and
they get their orders straight from from those guys. And
if they want to keep their job in Congress and
get re elected, get those million or two million dollar donations.
They told the line for Israel not to the United States.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
How often do you guys get together?
Speaker 3 (08:43):
Well, we've been Yeah, we've been trying to get together
Mike every uh year. This year we're in Norfolk, Virginia. Uh.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Well, tell us a little bit about that. Let's promote
that right now on the show. I understand, and you
do have something coming up, gohead, so tell us about Norfolk.
So some of our people in you know, the Hampton
Rose area, Virginia or DC, want to go down there.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Go ahead.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
Yeah, it's at the Sheridan Inn in Norfolk, and we're
going to have three days of celebration and we have
a beautiful monument there that in fact I had made
up right here in my little town here of some
fabulous artists and stuff. It's all marble. It's the same
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marble that all the monuments are made out of in Washington,
d C. To come out of marble Colorado. The marble
was donated and the the artwork on it costs US
around one hundred thousand dollars. But we raised the money
for that. We tried to get the Navy Museum to
take it. They didn't want it.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
Yeah, oh my gosh.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
We tried to get the National Security Agency to take it.
They didn't want it. Tried to get the Cold War
Museum to take it. They didn't want it. So the
government wants it buried up and buried up and buried up. Finally,
we got a VFW Post forty eighth nine in Tide Water, Virginia,
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and that's where we're going to have our ceremony for
the dead on the seventh, uh forty eighth nine VFW.
And they took it, and I'm proud they did. And
it's standing tall as it should be, and it's a beautiful,
beautiful monuments almost six foot tall, well a little over
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six foot tall, and both sides are beautifully done. It's
just a magnificent monument that our government didn't want. But
it was other veterans coming to help other veterans at
this VFW post, which is pretty outstanding. You can't go
to your government, but you can go to your veterans.
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And if they're not, if I can say this bought
and paid for, like the American Legion is, we got
banned from the American Legion. We wanted a booth there.
We seven a thousand dollars check. This has been I
don't know five years ago, six years ago national convention.
Two of my shipmates went there, Glenn Oliphant and Ernie Gallo.
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There was no booth and we said, well they did.
This is what they told me. Ernie, I'll just give
you a check or use my credit card and they
can pay me back if you didn't get the check.
We're still want the booth. And they said, no, you're
not going to have a booth here. You're not going
to have a booth. So Glenn took up these America
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took his American American Legion card out and tore it
up into tiny little pieces and dropped it and a
couple of pieces fell on a woman's breast. She had
him arrested for assault and he went to jail. This
is a combat wounded veteran trying to tell the truth
of the rest of the American Legion. They bannis for life.
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You're not never allowed to come back to the American Legion.
So screw them. I tore up my car too. I
want none to do with them.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Amazing, totally amazing.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
My gosh, God.
Speaker 5 (12:30):
For you know, sticking to your guns man. This is
a story that needs to be told, and particularly now
as they're attempting to draw us into another conflict. I
believe in the Middle East it will not be to
our benefit.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
No, that's that's coming. I mean, they just stopped a
free flow of aid. If there was that jack into Gaza.
Now they are not getting any more food or water
or anything like that. So I don't know what's going
to happen. I can't I can't change that, none of
us can. But we can talk about it. And the
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USS liberty is a straw that will break the camel's
back because we're the red hat top of the head
of the spear, a live people that were there and
saw carnages put upon America. When they've tacked our ship.
They've attacked a flagged American ship. That's an act of war.
And nobody did nothing anything about it, not even not
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even the what is it the Geneva Conventions? What was it?
You attacked one? You attack all? Yeah, yeah, NATO our
Article five and nobody come to help us. And nobody's
come to help us yet except people like you, you know,
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on alternative media, and you know, I might say if
I could give a little advertisement for the USS Liberty, Well,
thank you. I appreciate that. We're a very small organization
and we take donations so I can travel, and others
if they if they can or they're willing to go
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around the country and educate people about the USS Liberty
and what they did to us and what they did
to America, and just go to Ussliberty Veterans dot org.
USS Liberty Veterans dot org. If you want to donate
by credit card or whatever, and if you would like
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to send a check, send it to a Liberty Veterans
PO Box three thousand, Paulsy's Island, South Carolina, two nine
five eight five. Again, PO Box three thousand, Polsy's paw
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l e Ys Island, South Carolin. I am two nine
five eight five. All donations are tax deductible. We're a
five oh one three c. How we got that, we
haven't taken it away from us yet, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
Yeah, well, we have very good patriots that listen to
the two mics for more than five years now, and
I'm sure we'll have a few people contact you and
it's this is just an amazing story. That's got to
be continued to be told till ever you last one
of you are gone, you.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
Know, absolutely, And that's my feeling totally. You know, I'm
not going to shut up, Tom Jed Why should I?
Now I've had I've been threatened. Uh. I can't tell
you how many times to shut up. But it's too
late for me to shut up. I'm not doing it.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
And the irony is the name of the ship was
the USS Liberty Right with a big flag, brand new
one up there flying. They knew it. And like you say,
our government set it up, and they probably set it
up a year in advance. It took them that much
time to figure it out. And we had Linda Johnson,
Nixon Ford and you can go on and on all
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the way to Donald Trump one and two, and no one,
no one has said, Okay, you know we have to
we have to expose this and and give these guys
some medals. And this is a sin on our government.
You know, Germany's paying for the Holocaust and the war forever.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
You know, they pay the survivors and everybody who commits
these sins has to pay for the rest of their life.
And and somehow we we do not. We do not
promote for giving uh you people, I mean for what's
taken place. The American people owe you a debt of
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apology because of our are really bought and paid for
governments that we've had since Lyndon Johnson. And and that's
the reason why Kennedy was gone. And these Kennedy files
are never going to be there. You saw what happened
last week with the shit show They put up the
three ring binders. They showed you the cover like a
little kid in school play. Nobody opened it up and
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read one line. There was nothing in there to read.
They just paraded them out there. Jack. Did you notice
that shit show? Jack?
Speaker 2 (17:21):
Which one are we talking about?
Speaker 1 (17:23):
When they came out with the binders last week at
the White House, they all had a Jeffrey Epstein binder
with nothing inside.
Speaker 5 (17:31):
Listen, you know I've been saying it for years that
this was a Masad operation. I mean, Gislaine Maxwell's father,
Robert Maxwell's buried on the Mount of Olives as a
great hero of Israel, was working for Mosad, and Gislaine
was largely doing for her father of what she later
(17:52):
ended up doing for Jeffrey Epstein, and just a little
ironic twist to all of this, actually went on a
triple date with Gislaine Maxwell, probably like nineteen ninety one,
and to this day, the other five people who are
on that date we talk about her as this awful
human being who we couldn't stand. This is long before
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Epstein ever gets arrested. But she did the same thing
for her father in England. That's how Prince Andrew was
drawn into the Epstein thing. So we can't undervalue the
nature of blackmail in the way in which they relate
to the US government. US government officials, intimidation, you name it.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
Yeah, this is their stock in trade.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
Bet blackmail. They've got them, and I don't think they'll
ever Maybe they well, at least some of it, I
don't know, but I just think a little bit would
be detrimental to so many different people, and they don't
want that, of course. But we go back to Kennedy,
as you were saying earlier, Uh, you know, he was
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totally against, totally against Israel getting nukes and the moaning
and he said that and sooner after that he was
he was assassinated. And you know Lindon Johnson, that snake
when he got sworn in and everything, and then he
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he told Israel, you had a friend in Kennedy, but
now you have really found a good friend with me.
And they did. They cooked up a plan to destroy
an American ship, spy ship, send us to the bottom,
and get us into World War three. And we were
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damn close, guys, our ship not to sink and saved
millions of lives. Millions of lives, that's how close it was.
It's frightening even think about it. But God had a plan,
He knew what was going on. He had a plan.
He says, you ain't going to sink this ship. And
they didn't. Can you imagine the mighty idea for two
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frickin hours of nothing but pure hell, nowhere to run,
nowhere to hide. They couldn't sink an old World War
two victory whole ship. So we kicked our ass and
didn't fire a shot.
Speaker 5 (20:29):
Wasn't there at one point when you guys actually put
up a larger flag two that.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
Was yes, that was the last flag. That was the
last flag we put up. It was seven by thirteen
Holiday callers. They shot two of the other brand new
flags we had down had jack. They were five by
eight flags. And this holiday callers is for holidays, right,
Well you know what I'm talking about. And you could
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see that thing forever. When the tour pedo boats got there,
they said they could see no flag. That flag was
we had twelve knots of wind coming over the deck.
They could see that flag. And also one of the
pilots was recorded, and we we have that information too.
Uh but Sir's American ship. But sir is American ship.
(21:19):
You have your orders. Hit it, and hit it they did,
and the consequences are well known.
Speaker 5 (21:26):
And this was from the later transcripts that we got
from NSA.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
Right, Yes, yeah, nsay or c I A or right?
Who knows?
Speaker 5 (21:37):
Were you guys instrumental in getting those things out?
Speaker 3 (21:41):
Yes, yes, we've been trying and well we got them,
but nobody cares if we got him. They don't mean
anything to him. You know, it's black and white voice
voice transmissions and uh, nothing, nothing happens. I mean, I
(22:01):
still can't get it now after fifty seven, be close
to fifty eight years in June that this would happen,
and we would still be fighting to get it done.
To tell the truth. I mean, to have the world know,
not just America. But the world know exactly what the
hell happened with these people, not just in Israel, but
(22:22):
our government is just as guilty of cold blood and
murder of their own citizens as Israel because they're the
ones that hired the hitmen, and the hitmen just couldn't
couldn't get the job done. So tell me how badass
the IDF is.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
Well they get.
Speaker 5 (22:38):
Improven their failure in the last eighteen months in Gaza.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
I mean, yeah, they couldn't do what the Marines did
in Fallujah, and door to door was not part of
their menu.
Speaker 5 (22:50):
No, But what I want to also ask you about
the captain ends up getting the Congressional Medal of Honor, right,
and the ship is one of the most decorated ships
in US history. How were you guys given your decorations
for valor, et cetera. I mean, was that in the
(23:10):
oval office for the Medal of Honor?
Speaker 2 (23:13):
Or?
Speaker 5 (23:15):
Was this done before a big command down in Norfolk,
you know, with a parade or.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
How was it done?
Speaker 3 (23:25):
Well? The old man he got his Medal of Honor
at the shipyard in Norfolk, Virginia. It was a very
small group of people, and you know, usually the Medal
of honor was presented by the President of the United
States in the Oval Office or the East Room or
wherever they want to do it. Right West winged it,
(23:48):
but that never happened, so the cover up still continued.
Then it was very low key, not a lot of fanfare,
but a lot of I didn't get uh my awards
till after the fact, after I was out of the Navy,
(24:09):
and that was at a recruiting station in Colorado that
they gave me a bronze star with a V and
a lot of other stuff. There's no needy to go
into that, but purple Heart and combat action, just on
and on. But that was with no fan fair either not.
(24:30):
You know, I really didn't think too much about a medal.
I didn't. I didn't ask for one or any medal.
I was just happy to get out of there with
my life. But about a year after the attack, he
finally ran me down and I was awarded those.
Speaker 4 (24:48):
Unbelieving me, sir, if you could give me your give
me the dates once more of your manual.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
Meeting, Yes, would you get that piece and paiper for
me the reunion stuff. My wife's gonna get me there,
all right, sir, you.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
Talk about an all Folk Mike, Yes, we have that.
We have that film, Mike, we have that. Okay, yeah,
Funny supplied that to us.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
Thank you, Okay, good, good deal, all right? Yeah, but uh,
thank you, Hony. The Uh, the only one we're going
to get this done is through people like you. And
you know, yeah, I've been crying like a smash cat
for years and years and years and get rebuffed. You know,
(25:37):
I write letters to Congress and they say there's already
been an investigation. They're liars. There's never been an investigation.
The only investigation there was was a Board of Inquiry
which was set up to begin with John McCain Jr.
Admiral John S. McCain Jr. He he he was part
of the cover up. Uh. And LBJ directly said, I
(26:01):
want this done in seven days and find it as
a mistaken identity period leave the rest of it alone.
That's what they did.
Speaker 5 (26:10):
What's Admiral kids relationship to all this? He must have
been involved in the cover up from day one?
Speaker 3 (26:17):
Yeah, Oh yeah, yeah they were. They were ordered to
find it was a mistaken identity and yeah, I think
the high brass where I know John McCain, Uh, John
McCain's daddy, John McCain senior or junior blag admiral. He
was head of European Forces Europe, a supreme commander. You know,
(26:42):
he was in on it. There was probably four or
five handful of them that were in on it, and
they did a good job too. And they're they're still
holding it back with people they're too afraid to go
up against. Uh. This in a state with the truth.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
Terrifying it is.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
I mean, yeah, it is terrifying. It's just it's you must.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
Have been you must have been told one hundred times
how brave you are, and I'm just gonna make it
or a thousand or ten thousand times. I'm just going
to add it to it, because you're a brave man
to survived. God has blessed you, and you're brave to
go on the road. I mean, listen, it takes bravery
to do what you're doing and expose what our country.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
And we do this.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
We do this on the two mics, we do this
on a National Security our, on America out Loud, which
is a First Amendment freedom of speech network, because this
is all we got. I mean, if you don't want
to stick up for what we have, you know, the Constitution.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
Then you don't want.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
We don't have. We don't have what we think we have.
It's it's just a dream. It's a fantasy. Our own
country and our own country. Look, the younger people and
people that have woken up now for the last couple
of years, realize we'd oidation. Let's not kid ourselves. Let's
not say that. Yeah, we're you know, we're all about
truth and democracy. We have a new Secretary of State.
(28:08):
The first thing he does, the first act he does,
is allow four billion dollars war and weapons to go
to Israel. And he didn't even go to the Senate.
He didn't even get congressional approval. It's one of their boys. Hey,
just send it over, you know. I mean, we got
to stop. We got people in tents in North Carolina.
We got people homeless all over this country. Somebody did
(28:30):
a statistic the other day. We have given since the
beginning of Israel, the average family has given over three
hundred and forty five thousand dollars per family, per person
I'm sorry, per person in America, all right, towards Israel's
survival and benefits. I mean, come on, we don't do
this for our own people. So let's not kid ourselves anymore.
(28:53):
We're talking on the two mics. We talk free speech.
I mean, this show today is every one of you
who listen. Whether you like it or not, you can comment.
I don't care, you know, we don't care about that.
But just push it out there and push it to
all your friends and family who are in the tank
for the Ukraine and Israel. This is what our country
has gone through. This is what Phil and the crew
(29:16):
at the USS Liberty has gone through. The survive and
God bless you Phil, God bless you and the rest
of you guys.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
You know, Oh that's I really appreciate that. Thank you
so much. Well, God bless you guys too. I mean,
it takes courage to talk about this subject, you know.
And you know, I've been cut off of YouTube for
a while and I've been banned from Facebook for life
(29:43):
because of my comments. But with the alternative media and
social media and x X is actually pretty good. I
can't believe it, but they haven't censured me yet, but
it takes it.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
They were pretty good.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
They're allowing some stuff on there. But we have a
listener who follows us and he's I put him on
the show a couple of times with Mike, who says,
what you allow your country to do to other people,
eventually they will allow you, will allow.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
Him to do it to yourself.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
And that's what's happened to us. We allowed our country
to do some bad things, and now they do it
to us. I mean they've been doing it a tout
for years. You know. You know, Jack's a free speech guy.
Mike is his free speech guy. He's got the blog
non hyphen Intervention two dot com. He's been thrown off
a couple of times. You know, the A listers, they
(30:36):
go after him from time to time and tell tell
him take down stuff. But you know, Mike, Mike, how
many years you got the blog up there? Oh?
Speaker 4 (30:44):
It must be about fifteen years now, fifteen years.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
Jack's been on various shows, he was co host and
hosting shows. And you know when when everything hit the
fan during the pandemic and Jack was right out there
will hunt the laptop. I mean, he put his life
out there too. That's another hero salute to you too.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
Jack. Oh, thank you, I mean, I mean good company.
Speaker 5 (31:08):
If we're talking about that question that I had for you,
Phil again kind of a technical one. When they reconstructed
the ship for its you know, debut back on the
east coast in Malta. There's gotta be some photographic record
of the battle, damage and the repairs, even if we're
(31:29):
just talking about engineering records.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
Have you guys in your hands on that stuff.
Speaker 3 (31:35):
Yeah, we've We've got a lot of it. It's on
our site USS Liberty Veterans dot org. You can go
there and check it out. We're building a new site
now because we're getting more traction. We ever did Jack,
you know, because well in the last nine months it's
been it's been coming out more and more and more.
(31:59):
Candae Owens did a wonderful interview. I was very pleased,
very honored to be with her. But she she busted
the door wide open. And you guys are the busting
the door open. It takes all of us to get
this right and write your congressman, see what they tell you,
but be prepared to be lied to. So you know,
(32:24):
just like your laptop, you turned over the laptop from hell.
Look how they skated by that one.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
And I actually ran a cover up.
Speaker 5 (32:36):
I mean I actually believe that Comer and Jordan ran
a multi year cover up. Peter Strock's wife was made
head of sec enforcements. So problem on the Wall Street side, right.
I think the whole thing has been a cover up
in some regards. I think what laptop was covered up,
not so much because of the biolabs in Ukraine and
(32:59):
the evidence CIA funding and Wuhan and all these really
horrible things. I think it was covered up because it's
obvious that Israeli intelligence took down Hunter Biden in October
of twenty eighteen.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
I mean there's video evidence. I mean there's pictures of
all these people.
Speaker 5 (33:17):
There's stuff went to the cloud that they didn't realize
and Hunter saved it.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
Hunter talks about it.
Speaker 5 (33:26):
But again, this is Israeli intelligence operating at will inside
the United States of America. And this is the new normal,
or maybe it's maybe it's always been the normal and
I'm just being getting the revelations of how it actually.
Speaker 4 (33:42):
Only it was the British in nineteen thirty eight to
forty one that tried to that made sure we got
into that damn war. Again. It's the same thing with
the Israelis, although they're much more sophisticated.
Speaker 3 (33:54):
Yes, yeah, well they sophisticated because of the good old USA.
But uh in nineteen seventy three, that was a young
compare war right now, Yes, yeah, admir Moore he was
still active uty then he was former Chairman of the
(34:16):
Joint's Staff twice. And also he's the only admiral in
the United States never that that controlled at one time
the European Forces and then he went to the Pacific Forces.
He was a supreme commander. He's the only ones ever
accomplished that. He h there was an Israelily an ambassador.
(34:41):
I do forget his name, I can I can find
it though, but he told the Admiral Moore that he
wanted this, this, this and this and this and this,
and Admiral Moore says, I can't do that. You have
to go through Congress. And he got stern with the
Admiral says, just get me what I told you I
needed and I'll take care of Congress and I'll be damn.
(35:04):
He got everything they wanted. He got it for him because.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
Of it's back in seventy three. Now, back in seventy.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
Three, yeah, right, you know, it was only six years
after the liberty got hit. So who controls this country?
They didn't pay it. I mean, listen, when you murder somebody,
you do the crime. You know you got to do
the time. I don't. There's no statute of limitations on murder,
and there's no statue of limitations on war crimes. So
(35:37):
what is our government hide? And how bad is it?
Is it just as bad as the Epstein files? Is
it bad as the Kennedy files? RFK Martin Luther King Junior?
Is it as bad as those? Or is it worse?
Who knows?
Speaker 1 (35:55):
It's probably worse Phille. But I wouldn't I wouldn't sign
off today without saying to our evangelical friends in the
Protestant community, the evangelical community, take your heads out of
your ass. Just take your heads out of your ass.
You're at that pulpit every week pounding away about the
only democracy and our only ally, and God blesses those
(36:18):
in Genesis, God blesses those who bless Israel. You know,
let's take it for what it's worth, all right. These
are not the Israelites, These are not the Jews of
the Bible. You know, it only takes a fifth grade
education to figure that out. Already, Schofield Bible was financed
by who you'll get the answer to that one. And
that's what they did, and they got you all convinced.
(36:40):
The John Hagees and the guy that's hanging around Trump,
Robert Jeffries, by the way. Robert Jeffers, by the way,
was the first guy when the steel went down on
the twenty twenty election, was the first guy to kick
Trump to the curb. He was in the White House
every month, but when the steel went down, he called
the president said nope, what's his name? Joseph R. Biden
(37:03):
is the new president, So just stop what you're doing.
That was his best friend, and he still comes to
the White House. So just take your heads out of
your ass, like I said, and you know, smell the roses.
This is a survivor an attack on our country, an
attack on our ship, and attack on American citizens and
almost World War three. All right, I'm just saying it
(37:24):
like it is. I got to wrap at that. Phil,
you got the last word. Go ahead, Jack, Phil, Mike,
whoever wants to go for it.
Speaker 3 (37:31):
Well. First of all, I want to thank all you
guys for your kindness and your support. It means the
world to me. You take time out for us to
hear the story and remember, and I hope you tell
other people. We need to support Usslibtyveterans dot org or
the address I gave you Polsey's Island. We need all
(37:54):
the help we can get if we if we want
to get the word out, and you know, hopefully if
you guys can make it, come on down the reunion.
You'll see some survivors there and other dignitaries. I bet
you'd be welcome with open arms.
Speaker 1 (38:12):
Jack, go ahead.
Speaker 5 (38:14):
Now, I just want to confirm, fellow, that's on March seventh,
and tell us the VFW hall again.
Speaker 3 (38:21):
No, it's it's not on March seventh, it's June sixth,
seventh and eighth.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
June sixth, seventh, eighth.
Speaker 3 (38:30):
Yeah, and now that that's in Norfolk, Virginia at the Sheridan.
You guys said you had that information right.
Speaker 1 (38:36):
Yeah, we got it from Fuddy or produce.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
We're going to put it in a footnotes.
Speaker 4 (38:39):
Mike, go ahead. I just wanted to thank you, sir
for your your presentation and your ability to deliver not
only the experience but the details associated with it. There's
no one really in the right mind who could not
think you're telling the truth. And that an operation which occurred. First,
(39:05):
the first step was observing where you were. Then there
were an aircraft attack, and then there was a motor
boat attack. Clearly, or a motor torpedo attack. Clearly, you're
you're you're telling the absolute truth in a painful way
for all of us to listen to, but certainly something
the American people need to know. And we will do
(39:26):
our bit as much as we can to uh get
your story out into the into the media and see
what happens. But God bless you and and all of
the all of the crew.
Speaker 3 (39:38):
Well, thank you, and I'll relay that and uh, if
you guys can help me in any other way, get
me on any other show, we will. Let's just go
get them because it's gonna Oh listen, remember what Hillary said,
it takes a village.
Speaker 1 (39:52):
But we could take that advice, right, Yeah. Film saluting
philm saluting you, bravos, as we say in the navy, bravos, Zulu,
I'm saluting you and the crew. Thank you.
Speaker 3 (40:05):
I salute you guys too. God bless you and have
a great day.
Speaker 1 (40:09):
Thank you, sir, Thank you,
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