March 11, 2025 • 57 mins
On this explosive episode of Two Mikes, Dr. Michael Scheuer and Col. Mike welcome back the always insightful Colonel Richard Black (ret.). With his experience as a Marine fighter pilot, Pentagon lawyer, and Virginia State Senator, Black delivers a hard-hitting analysis of America’s collapsing foreign and domestic policies. He breaks down Kash Patel’s massive battle ahead as Attorney General, exposing the FBI’s corruption and its war on American patriots. The Colonel also lays out the brutal reality of U.S. foreign policy—funding Islamist terrorists in Syria, backing ethnic cleansing in Gaza, and sinking $300 billion into Ukraine’s losing war. He warns that the European Union is on the verge of collapse due to open borders, climate hoaxes, and economic suicide. And in Virginia, DEI-driven politics remain a major obstacle for Republicans. A must-listen episode for those who want the raw, unfiltered truth.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
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as many of you that we're on. The five hundred shows.
The first five hundred shows, we had so many great
times with some of the guests, authors and so on.
All right, look, what's happening is happening? You know, Trump's in.
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It's two point zero.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
All right.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
We'll make comments from time to time, but really what
we want to do is recycle some of the best guests.
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to the screen. On the screen, welcome back with us
(02:16):
one of our Virginia former Virginia State Senators, Colonel Dick Black,
who is with us on the screen once again, we
welcome back to the new year, twenty twenty five. Colonel Black,
Welcome back to two Mic, sir.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
It's good to be with you.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Oh, it's always good to have you, sir. Where would
you like to start? I mean today is you just
said Cash Patel was confirmed, which is really really important.
That's really good. We have cash Pateel, we have Palestine.
We just talked about twenty billion dollars for Stacy Abrams
and Georgia. So start it up, Go ahead, Dick, welcome back.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
Yeah, well, great news that cash Pateel is now confirmed.
I guess he could be sworn in at any time
of the president's choosing. He got in by a vote
of fifty one to forty nine. Of course, all of the
Democrats were against him, and then two of the Republican
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ladies for their Susan Collins and the Senator from Alaska,
So and McConnell actually voted for him. This is interesting,
But at any of that, if you think of it,
there are eleven thousand FBI agents. During the big Democrat
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drive to suppress Republican votes and supporters and so forth,
they put forty of the entire FBI to work on
attacking Republican activists by going after the people who had
been at this massive demonstration in Washington to protest the
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stolen election in twenty twenty. There's a lady in my church.
She didn't even go into the Capitol or anything, but
she went to the demonstration. They were after her, interviewing her,
questioning her for you know, they went on for a
couple of years. Different people that I've run into have
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have been victims of this, and it really was a
massive suppression effort in hopes that the Democrats had of
terrorizing Republicans to withdraw from politics. And it didn't work, obviously,
But if you think of it, forty percent five thousand
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FBI agents are now freed up to do things like
helping to seal the border, going after sanctuary cities, investigating them,
investigating organizations that have been involved in fraudulently diverting massive
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amounts of money. You mentioned money going to Stacy Abrams.
I'm not saying it was crooked. I'm saying it's highly irregular,
and so the FBI needs to be looking into things
like this, saying, okay, let's go after the corruption that
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has really characterized the Biden administration. So Caashptel. The Democrats
hated seeing him come in because he is a no nonsense,
really a fierce advocate of law enforcement. So we've got
some very good things on the way.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
With that.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Blank, do you think that there's any any reason to
worry that the forty percent of the FBI that was
assigned to ruin the Republicans, and Trump enjoyed that, and
they had they had been doing that over the course
of four years, not just for or maybe longer, maybe
a second term of four years.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
Yeah, I think the senior leadership of the FBI is
horribly corrupt, horribly anti American, horribly disdainful of the US
Constitution and the rights of ordinary citizens. Now, there were
a lot of FBI agents who were good folks who
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were simply forced to do the investigations that they did,
and I think I think there's going to be a
weeding out process. They've already identified everybody who was involved
in the on the investigations of the demonstration. They're going
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to have to look into it and figure out which
ones were instigators and which ones were simply compliant with
the instructions that they got to go in and investigate.
There are a lot of bad apples. It's not just
a couple. We know that the senior leadership was horribly corrupt.
(07:23):
You know, I ended up running a Senate election, I
guess my last Senate election before I retired, and it
was the wife of an FBI agent who was in
discussions with Governor Terry mcculliff, and the next thing, he's rising, rising,
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rising to where he ends up in a position to
potentially help to block the investigation of Hillary Clinton with
her wiping thousands of emails from her email server in
controversial contravention of a court order, I believe. So there's
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there's a lot of bad actors at very high levels.
And there are some of these just career bureaucrats in
the FBI who many many career bureaucrats of FBI are
real dedicated, great people, but some of them are really nasty, uh,
power brokers who who are working against the American people.
(08:35):
That's what cash Bettel's got ahead of him. He's gotta
he's got to figure it all out and try to
fix it.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
A No, I was just gonna, isn't Is it not
incumbent im an FBI person or a c I a
person to refuse as the military is or is is
it's incumbent on the military to refuse in a legal order.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
Well, yeah, if it's something that he knows is unlawful,
he's not supposed to do it. Now we know that
there was one, there was one FBI agent who was
actually convicted of making a false official document basically forgery. Yes,
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where he created a document that was really a fundamental
part of the whole Russia hoax, and he used that
then to get one of these FEISA warrants that opened
the door so that the FBI could spy on the
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incoming Trump administration. Even before Trump was sworn into office,
they had begun spying on him by virtue of a
false document created by the FBI.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Yeah, what's the statute of limitations on that?
Speaker 3 (10:06):
It varies. I mean there's typically a five year statute
of limitations on many things, but it varies. It depends
on what the particular offense is.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Okay, well, everybody should know that your background. You are
a former JAG officer, correct.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
Yeah, that's right. I was the chief of the Criminal
Law Division at the Pentagon.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
Right. So. And also we do have in our area,
our community within the Beltway, Virginia and Maryland, we have
a lot of FBI living in that area, many FBI agents,
we do.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
And we've got a lot of fine folks. I have
a just a delightful fellow who who attends church with me,
has got a great, big family, beautiful family, wonderful people.
His wife's a real firecracker conservative. So there are lots
of good people, and you know, we don't want them
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to get swept up as we're wayne in Howse.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
But did you hear anything about a name for a
deputy to cash Pattel? Is there a name out there?
I don't know that, Okay, Mike, did you hear anything?
Speaker 2 (11:21):
I have not heard either, Colonel Okay.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
All right, So that's a that's another win for Trump,
amazing fifty one. So let's take that and let's go
a little bit now to what's going on in the Gulf,
in the Middle East, center of the Black I mean,
you've been following this from the beginning October seventh, going
on two years. What do you think of this plan?
(11:47):
You know, mind sweep this Gaza strip and rebuild it
like Monaco or you know, Miami on the med I mean,
what do you think of that? I don't think all
the Arabs are going for it, but he's trying to
sell it. It's not good for Cairo, it's not good
for Egypt, it's not good for some of the people
within the area where the Muslim Brotherhood could rise. What
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do you say about that?
Speaker 3 (12:11):
Yeah, well, I think it's based on a false premise
that somehow the Palestinian people from Gaza don't want to
go back because it's all been bombed to smither, rings
which it has. The Israelis have systematically destroyed all infrastructure
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that supports human life, and I think clearly the idea
was to drive all Palestinian people out of there. It's
important to remember that there are no Jewish people in
Gaza zero. There are a few Christians about one percent.
(12:58):
Most of the people in Aza, or Muslims. Why Israel
even wants it is a question. I mean, it's it's
probably should just be its own political entity. But the
people who live there, that is their home. It's like
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if the United States were just bombed mercilessly. It would
take almost nuclear weapons to do the same thing to
the United States that's been done to Gaza. But even
if there were nuclear even if there was just a
nuclear whole cost here, how many of us would say, oh,
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I want to get out of the United States. It's
you know, it's all torn down. I think ordinary people
say Okay, let's get up and go again. And people
will go back to the place where their home used
to stand and that's what they got, that's what they own,
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and they'll you know, they may put up a little
little cardboard and stick shack to live in, but they
don't just say, oh, let's go somewhere else in the
world and get out of here. There's no evidence whatsoever
that the people in Gaza want to leave Gaza. They
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want the war to end. Keep in mind, just the
tiniest portion of the population in Gaza had any inkling
about the raid that was about to be done on
the Israeli settlements. So most of these people, i'd say,
you know, ninety five percent probably higher, had no inkling
(14:51):
of it. And basically they were just trying to live
their lives and you know, raise their families, their children,
you know, tend to they're end of their crops and things,
and so they don't want to leave. And I think
the Arab countries have you know, they've made it pretty
clear we don't support having them driven out and turning
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it into a kind of a riviera for foreigners to
come in and take over. And you know, way the
casinos and stuff, that's not what the people who live
there want. They just want a place where they can
survive and where their children can live.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Well, you know, it's so much of Israeli foreign policy
to me is just based on Laban's realm, if you will,
and to pull a traveling in that particularly welcome words.
But what the greater israel business is? Somehow in their mind,
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more land makes more security. And it just seems to
me with the population that doesn't grow very much, and
with what over a million or maybe a million and
a half by now Israelis who have left the country
because of the war, where are they going to get
the people to control it? I would wonder, And I
(16:14):
don't know why someone hasn't said in that Yehu, you
know you're a nutcake. We're never going to supply you
a garrison to protect yourselves. You can't keep your army
in the field right now, very well, there's people not
showing up to fight, And it just seems to me
it's almost a nineteenth century approach to national security.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
Well, it's a strange situation over there in the United States.
While we provide all of the arms, we have very
little control over it. I you know, I was quite
disappointed that the legitimate government of Syria was overthrown. It
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took thirteen years to do it, but in the end
they just sort of collapsed because they had no food.
They've been blockaded, starved, just bled to death for thirteen years.
And now accommodation in the United States, Turkey, Israel, Great Britain,
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they've all installed al Qaeda. Now, al Qaeda was the
group that flew the planes into the Twin Towers and
the Pentagon, killing three thousand American people on nine to eleven.
It was only ten years between nine to eleven and
when the Central Intelligence Agency was working day and night
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to put al Qaeda in control of Syria, and they didn't.
The Syrians were so adamantly opposed that it took it
took thirteen years to pull it off. And now what
have we achieved by by the massive slaughter of people
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in Syria and the new government of Syria. You have
a guy Mohammed al Jilani, who was the founder of
al Qaeda in Syria. He was very closely associated with
the with the founder of ices and he fought against
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American troops in Iraq. He was jailed in the Abu
Grave prison, later moved to Syria where he took over
the al Qaeda forces there, which really were the heart
and soul of the whole revolution against the Syrian government.
Under him, they would capture Syrian soldiers periodically, and at
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one time I remember they they sort of surrounded a
bunch of them in an air base, and after a
long siege, the Syrian soldiers surrendered and they stripped them
into their underwear. They ran them out in the desert,
and then they beheaded all and they put them in
a line and beheaded them one after the other, so
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that the people waiting in line to be beheaded had
to watch the others being beheaded first. This is the
nature of these people. When you talk about evil. Al Qaeda,
the group that now controls Syria because we put them
in power, is as evil as any group of human
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beings that you can imagine on the planet. They conducted
a campaign of mass organized rape throughout the country, raping
not only all of the women that they captured, but
all of the little girls and the little boys.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
They attracted pedophiles from all over the world who came
to fight against the Syrian government because they knew that
under al Qaeda they could own small children, they could
rape small children, and be completely immunized under the law
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of al Qaeda. You know you can, you can have
sex with a seven eight nine year old child and
both boys and girls, and they did it on a
massive scale. And so now this is the government that's
been put in place, and I think I think Biden
(20:50):
made a decision, a very conscious decision. He wanted to
create as much chaos for Trump as possible before Trump
moved in and uh and took control. And so one
of the things he did is I think he he
made a big push to to overthrow the government so
(21:15):
that Trump would be in this damned if you do,
damned if you don't situation where what does he do?
How does how does he does he work with this
new al Qaeda government? Does he somehow try to oppose it?
He's left in an impossible situation. Uh. Israel has managed
(21:36):
to seize some additional territory and they kind of take
whatever they want, but as you mentioned, here's the problem,
how much how much land do they want with the
population that they've got.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
Today they reported Dick that that Israel has troops since
here in Lebanon, and UH, that's kind of that's kind
of this heartening to think that you know, this is
the neighbor and really they don't have a war going
on with living on other than the fact that every
other day there's a hes Blood. They say, there's a
hes Blah looking for them. So it's just a greater
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it's an expansion, like Mike said, the greater Israel, which
we saw on the map at the UN Remember when
he came to you and he said, here, these are
going to be our trading partners. But he basically showed
us a greater Israel. And it's not good for America's image.
It's not good. And I hope that Trump changes a
lot of his position on what's going on there. Apparently
(22:33):
he's lightening up on Zelinsky. What do you say to
that one? He's like, I'm not I'm not too into
Zelensky anymore.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
And showed the other one. I think Trump he's only
got so much maneuvering room in the in the Middle East,
and he's you know, he's had some success. They're already
with with you know, with the hostage swap, and at
least he's got some discussions going on. So I give
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him a little bit of leeway because it's very difficult
for the president of the United States to to deal
with somebody like Netan Yahoo who is in a position
to pull a lot of strings behind the scenes. And
so we'll see. But now in Ukraine, I think I
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think Trump is going to have an enormous win in
Ukraine because he you know, it's all started with a
ninety minute phone call that he had with President Putin.
And I've always I've always liked to see Trump talk
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to other leaders one on one, not at some.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
Big you know, yes, I agree, I agree because Trump is.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
A good listener. People don't realize that, but I've been.
I've been on the receiving end of it once where
you know, he asked me a question. I was one
of the warm up speakers for him during his at the.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
Richmond Colisseum that the rich Mind guy was there Richmond Colosseum.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
And and so afterwards he would have two or three
warm up speakers and then he'd come on. And so
afterwards he came up to me as he was they
were taking him out the back door. He said, hey,
he said, he said, are we are we going to
win Virginia? And I told him, I said, unfortunately, I
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don't think we will. And so I'm giving him news
he doesn't want to hear, and so he just stopped
and he said, said, why do you think this is?
And so we began to talk back and forth and
and at a certain point, Secret Service and his entourage
started yelling, mister President, I'm not miss President, but Donald Trump,
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We've got to get going, got to meet the next appointment.
He said, no, he said, I want to talk to
this guy, and so he just continued. We probably talked
for fifteen minutes or so, and he was very attentive
to everything that was said. And this happens with foreign leaders.
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The problem we have with foreign policy is that presidents
get intelligence briefings that are extraordinarily distorted. We talk about
people as bad guys and so forth, and we always
forget the history that led up to what they're doing.
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For example, I don't think the State Department CIA wanted
to talk about the fact that under Obama, we overthrew
the government of Ukraine and we installed a revolutionary hunter
that forced portions of Ukraine to declare their independence the
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Russian speaking areas, and then Obama armed and built up
a huge Ukrainian army to go and attack those areas,
and Putin was desperately trying to avoid war. Russia was
not on a war footing. Their army many many of
(26:38):
their soldiers were not even allowed to go past the
Russian borders under existing law, so they were totally unready.
And the Foreign Minister, Lavrov was a wonderful diplomat, and I.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
Think he's one of the best out there, Dick, he's
been out there along, was a great speaker, he's.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
Fantastic, He is an amazing man. And he and President
put together proposals to say, look, let's let's ward off
this coming war, and NATO just sort of brushed it off.
It was we know where this is headed. We don't
want to want to waste time diverting attention. So eventually
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it reached a point where the Ukrainian army, massive army
was about to attack the Lugansk Republic and the Natzig Republic.
They had very small armies and they were to just
swamp them and then they would have driven their forces,
Ukrainian forces right up to the Russian borders. Who knows
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whether they would have stopped there. Russia had no choice
but to launch the attack. You know, there's a standard
rule of thumb in the military that you need to
have a numerical advantage of at least three to one
when you're attacking as opposed to defend it. When Putin
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ordered the attack by Russian forces across the border into Ukraine,
the numerical odds were reversed, so you had one Russian
versus three Ukrainians, and the Russians were attacking despite this
(28:30):
huge numerical disadvantage. They did it because they wanted to
upset the attack schedule for the Ukrainian armies that were
about to attack the Russian speaking areas. So yes, you
can technically say, okay, Putin started the war by attacking
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across the border, but that's ignoring a lot of history,
including the fact that there was already a hot war
that had killed fourteen thousand people. It wasn't a real
small war, and this was Ukraine attacking these two areas
that had, for very good reasons, declared their independence just
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you know, the United States colonies. We declared our independence
against against England, and somehow we seem to think it
makes no sense for anybody else to do the same
thing we did. But it made very good sense for Primea,
which has always been Russian, and Donatsi and Lolgansk because
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they were being told, Okay, Russia is no longer a
legitimate language. So if you're a school teacher who has
been teaching school for forty years, if you can't speak
the other language, you're gone. If you want to go
and get a driver's license as a Russian speaking person
in the domestic republic, then you have to get an
(30:09):
interpreter because everything will be done only in Ukrainian. So
they you know, if you understand the background. The background
is a little complex, but if you understand it, you say, wow,
what Ukraine was doing was outrageous and it's no wonder
(30:29):
there was a war.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
Well, he didn't even want an election. I mean, you know,
he's a tyrant, this guy. He wouldn't permit an election either.
Speaker 3 (30:38):
Yeah. Yeah, you know, for the first time, you got
President Trump saying, hey, look the guy's not even the
elected president of Ukraine. He has been out of office
for about a year and he refuses to allow elections.
And they say, oh, well, you know it's because there's
(31:01):
martial law that they can't have election. Well, don't give
me that. If Zelensky woke up tomorrow morning and said, hey,
look we're gonna I want parliament to put through a
bill that makes an exception to martial law so we
hold elections. They would have it done that afternoon. The
reason is that there is only one party. Zelensky outlawed
(31:26):
every other political party in Ukraine except his own, and
that then he he controls, he exercises power through the
secret police. Uh. He is a total dictator. There is
nothing democratic about this man whatsoever.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
Well, go ahead, Mike, Yeah, I just.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
I'm both Ukraine and uh, the Middle East. I think
if we took a series of Ukraine large with Europe included,
if you look at what we're doing or what we're
faced with, it seems to me that the one best
thing for America would be to stay out of the way.
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If Netanyahu wants to expand to Jordan and over Syria,
it's up to the Arabs to stop. It's not up
to us, especially since with pump is back and we're
going to be energy independent. It's not a nice thing
(32:33):
to see, But is it worth continuing a pattern of
foreign policy that involves us in wars that are astronomically expensive,
terribly bloody on both the enemy and ourselves, and we
never win. You when you look it just seems to
(32:53):
me to be common sense to say enough, we're staying home.
We've got some work to do here, and this whole
idea of keeping NATO when you know Advance, Advance's speech
at Munich was a tremendously honest speech and a tremendously
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realistic one that NATO alliance was not only a defense alliance,
it was to protect democracy. And from what I can tell,
and we're certainly not getting honest reporting out of Europe.
But when they make a mistake and they show us
people being arrested because they're praying next to an abortion center,
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that they won't even talk about the two hundred and
fifty thousand young ladies who have been raped by Pakistani groomers.
What in the hell are we paying to support them for?
There seems to be a lack of common sense in
this country in something as simple as what is our
(33:57):
business and what is not? And until we figure that
one out, it seems to me more the same is likely,
and more the same is tremendous expenditures, dead American kids
on the field, and more enemies for the United States.
So I know the world is not a simple place,
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and I've never thought it was, But there are points
where it's not an offense to the United States that,
as the leader, so called leader of the free world,
that we don't take rec we don't take umbrage at
people fighting to get their independence or their self determination,
(34:42):
as the professors call it. It just seems to me
that this is the time for that. We've got lots
to do here at home. Let the Israelis fight if
they want, but stop arming them, and stop arming NATO
and paying for their their you know, whether they say
sixty percent of the NATO alliance is funded by us,
(35:05):
maybe that's too simplistic, but we've tried the other since
nineteen forty five, the internationalists americal leader of the Free
world wars everywhere, paying for alliances which other attendees are
cheating or just not paying. It seems to me there's
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a lesson here that's not all that opaque, and if
we learned it, we might be better off and might
have a more common sense foreign policy.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
Well, you know, I agree with that. It's interesting that
Trump has touched on something that is a very obvious
truth that's never spoken about. The United States is protected
by five thousand or five or six thousand miles of
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open blue water ocean on both sides. And so the
idea that somehow Russia or China or Rant or all
of these other places threatened is malwarkey.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
It is right.
Speaker 3 (36:18):
They may be in a geopolitical struggle. Maybe there's maybe
we're competing economically in that kind of thing, but you look,
China is mainland China is you know, I don't know,
it's one hundred and fifty miles between that and Taiwan,
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which is, you know, traditionally a province of China. That's
an enormous barrier between mainland China and Taiwan, which is
why it's you know, they're not going to attack tomorrow,
because it's that's a that's a very tough not to crack.
But the English Channel twenty one miles separates England from
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the rest of Europe, and yet it's protected Europe, you know,
for hundreds and hundreds of years from invasion twenty one miles.
There actually are people who can swim twenty one miles,
and here we are. We've got five thousand miles six
thousand in the case of the Pacific that separate dus
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So that's the greatest defensive barrier on the face of
the planet. The United States is gifted with that in
a way that other great countries are not. Now, I
think Trump he's very accurate and saying, look, we were
protected by these oceans, and he's just announced I don't
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know that he has announced it, but Secretary of Defense
Pete Hegset has announced that the decision was made that
the United States will cut its defense budget eight percent
a year for five years. Now, if you do that,
it's a sloping curve, so it ends up that at
the end of the five years, the defense budget has
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gone down from eight hundred and fifty billion dollars down
to I believe it's five hundred and twenty one billion,
thirty four percent reduction by the end of that period,
which is unprecedented. I don't know when it's happened, except
maybe the wind down from the Second World War something
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like that. But it is a very very massive cut
in the overall defense budget, and I think it reflects
President Trump's realization that we are protected by our oceans.
We need to slim down so that we don't bankrupt ourselves,
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and and then what we have left, we're going to
harden it. We're going to make our troops much more
combat effective than they ever had been in recent years.
So I think we're seeing good things on the horizon. Politically,
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it's it's not always easy to deny weapons to especially
to Israel. But but I think, I think what he's done,
what he's done so far and what he's in the
process of doing, is historic. It's probably the greatest foreign
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policy shift in ever ever since the Second World War,
where we you know, coming out of the Second World War,
we were dominant over the world and particularly Europe. Europe
was was destroyed, Germany was shattered, and we we set
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up a system where NATO was run by a US
general and NATO exerted power and influence throughout Europe. Then
we created this European Union, which was the most undemocratic
form of government on the planet. There. You know, their
executive branch is not elected, it's this European Commission, And
(40:37):
I don't even know exactly how they decide who's going
to be that. My guess is the US has a
big input, but the people have no input on on
who is the who runs the executive branch or the EU.
Then you have members of all the countries who elect
uh members of Parliament to go to the europe In Parliament.
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But guess what, they can't introduce bills. You know, they
go there and they it's well, they received legislation that's
handed down by these unelected bureaucrats of the European Commission,
(41:21):
and then they're able to sort of monkey around with
them a little bit and and carb a little on
the edges and that kind of thing. Well, this is
this is absolute tyranny. This is not democratic. We're always saying, oh,
you know our democratic partners.
Speaker 1 (41:37):
In Europe, Yeah, Dick, we have we have people that
come on the two mics that talk about our democratic
allies or NATO allies. And I laughed myself for if
I'm like, come on, you guys have been in the
military thirty years, your officers in the military retired. What
democratic ally you talking about. They're locking up people in
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Britain for free space each There's a guy, there's a
guy on the internet that was in the first Trump administration.
He was with the d n I and NSA, and
he's always talking about how great out like great Britain. Yeah,
they're the ones that's fight on Trump. They're the ones
in a luck looked at people for free speech.
Speaker 3 (42:19):
Yeah, I ended up on a this disinformation list out
of Ukraine that that was you know, it was set
up with the help of this Nina Jankowitz or whatever
her name was, or had tried to do the same
thing in the United States, and then they said, no,
(42:39):
we're not gonna We're not going to have censorship here.
So she goes over and she does censorship there, and uh,
you know, and all of Europe is into this thing,
you've you know, in Germany, it's sad. Uh. They passed
laws after the Second World that said said you you
(43:00):
can't challenge certain things, you can't use certain phrases, and
they've jailed people for it. And now here in Germany,
the only party that gives any voice whatsoever to the
German people is the Alternative for Deutsche Land, which is
AfD Party. And now people are swarming to the AfD
(43:26):
party because Germany is in a terrible recession. Now people
are going hungry in the streets, and and well.
Speaker 1 (43:35):
They wanted to fight Putin, you know, Senator Black, they
wanted to fight Putin, and then they found out that
they got to chop down trees to heat their homes.
How stupid is that for smart people?
Speaker 3 (43:46):
You know, I think the people wanted to fight Putin
the government did, and unfortunately the United States decides the
government of Germany.
Speaker 1 (43:58):
Yes, yes, no, I don't mean the people absolutely know
the government, of course, but I mean they had these
people chopping down trees, going back to wood burning stoves
because well, we have to fight Putin and we don't
we don't want the oil. Well, how stupid is that?
Speaker 3 (44:14):
Green climatism business nonsense? But they they got the Germans.
Germans had a wonderful whole industry. It's a very very profitable,
good industry. They told them, oh, you got to shut
it down, so they shut it down, and they said, okay,
(44:34):
well we'll build nuclear power plants. That'll make up for
some So then they said, oh, you got to shut
down the nuclear power plants, so they did. Okay, so
now you got to you got to you know, power
up a great industrial nation with pin wheels and sun chips.
And now they say, oh, wait, you know, in the winter,
(44:57):
it didn't work real well because windmills don't sit in
and the one chips they don't have any suns. So yeah,
so I guess a little bit cold now, and then
I mean it's a disaster. And then along comes Biden,
and Biden ordered the CIA to carry out a very
(45:18):
complex operation whereby American divers went down and set charges
and blew up the Nordstream pipeline, and the Nordstream pipeline
was feeding natural gas from Russia into Germany. And what
happens Germany is a little bit unique. And you can't
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understand their economy if you don't understand the importance of
the chemical industry there right hundreds of years ago, well
at least one hundred and fifty years ago, maybe there's
a guy named Fober Hunts Fober. I think he came
(46:01):
up with this ingenious system whereby you could take natural
gas and air and with it you could produce ammonia,
and with that you could produce ammonium nitrate fertilizer, biggest
fertilizer in the world. And with that you could go
on and on and every chemical produced. Beginning with natural gas,
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they become more and more complex until you're doing pharmaceuticals
and you're doing automobile paints and all kinds of things.
In Ludwikshaven, Germany, there is a massive chemical works there's
some three thousand chemical plants, each one building on the
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other increasing complexity. Is the biggest chemical concentration in any
country in the world. We go in, we cut off
the natural gas, which is at the top of this
pyramid of the chemical industry. We cut it off and
we say, okay, now you've got to buy natural gas
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from US at five or six times the price. So
all of a sudden, the price of all the chemicals
out of Germany goes soaring through the roof, and now
companies are going bankrupt right and left in Germany, and
it's not going to happen until they get cheap, reliable
(47:31):
Russian gas again. So we do things like this, the
idea that somehow Germany is our great ally and all
these others. No, we don't think any of them will
destroy their economy in the wink of an eye. If
we think it'll, it'll help bring down Ukraine and maybe
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make a little bit, a little bit of cash for
some of the some of the people, some of the
sons of senators and presidents.
Speaker 2 (48:08):
It's a world that is you know, I think for
sometimes we have an educational, an educated elite that runs
this country. Serve that the only things that are complex
are worth can considering the complexity. How many times does
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somebody start a speech or an answer to a question
that this is very complex, and you know, we have
to do this and do this, and it takes forty
years and you never solve anything. But you made within
thirty seconds or minute two thirds of the answer to
a great for a policy problem for us. Two oceans
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put there by God, and a secure border. You have that.
It's plenty. You know, all the brilliant professors say things, well,
that ocean business is just you know, yesterday when there
was sailing ships with masts and sales on them. And
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I always think when I hear that is that we
had a goodly well protected border, or at least a
better protected border and two oceans during the Cold War,
and it made us unassailable except by a nuclear war,
which would have destroyed the attacker in return. And the
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Russians couldn't figure out how to get enough of an
army here to occupy us. The Chinese aren't going to
be able to do it except through the open border.
There's certain basics in America. And the other thing we've
forgotten is that we are all falling creatures that there's
a lot of people who are not concerned or not
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even aware of that fact that people can be tremendously
positive and kind and knowledgeable, but they also can be bastards.
And if you don't keep that in mind, it seems
to me the scum sometimes rises to the top. And
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you put that natural order of things together with the
way our educational system works at the moment, we have
a hell of a problem.
Speaker 1 (50:35):
Well, you could make Germany great again, Mike. Just kick
out America, Just kick out America. Did you see, Dick
that they moved the Volkswagen plants when they closed them.
They had to close the Volkswegen plants, and Putin said, well,
just move them over to Russia. Oh is that right?
Speaker 2 (50:54):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (50:55):
And he told because they were all unemployed overnight, and
he said, hey, we got Volkswagen plants in Russia. Get
over here, will give you jobs. I mean, in order
for the Europeans to get back on their feet properly,
they're going to have to stand up to the Americans
and say, look, there's enough problems in the world. We
signed on to this. We cut our own throats. We
want to say good night. I won't close this show,
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unless I asked Senator Black Mike, what about this next
year election in Virginia. What do you think, Dick?
Speaker 3 (51:27):
You know, it's very unclear. One of the things that
we know is happening is that Virginia has a tremendous
number of federal employees. Correct for the most part, they're Democrats.
Not in some areas like the FBI are not not
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predominantly Democrat, probably more Republican there, but in the other
agencies they tend to be almost uniformly Democrat. A lot
of those people, particularly at the higher levels, are going
to lose their jobs. They're they're already starting to move
out of of the area. We don't know exactly how
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that's going to play out. It's it's going to diminish
the Democrat financial base, particularly in northern Virginia. At the
same time, you could say, well, will it fire up
the Democrat base to campaign? I don't know. Sometimes when
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you're when you're out pounding the pavement looking for a job,
the last thing you're thinking about is is elections. So
it's unclear how this is going to play out. I
do know that the the DEI has become so so
(52:52):
ingrained in everything in Virginia that it's really become just
a horror story here and uh, and there's no indication
yet that Virginia's is moving quickly to get in line
with Trump Trump's position on de EI. So we still
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have tremendous racial discrimination, we still have the transgender horror
that's being faced by our children in schools all the time.
So there's lots of reasons that that good leaders can
can step forward, run for office and uh and win elections.
(53:37):
But it's it's just a little unclear at this point.
It's too early to tell, but it's going to be
very interesting. I think I think Republicans should be able
to take back at least one well, the only the
only house that's up for election is the House of Delegates.
But if we can take the House of Delegates, we
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can block a tremendous amount of really really, so, have you.
Speaker 1 (54:03):
Seen the latest reports in your area Loudin County the
amount of homes that are up for sale, and I
mean quickly within two weeks, it's a tremendous percentage.
Speaker 3 (54:14):
There are lots of federal worker who are resigning getting
out of the area. This is what I'm talking about.
A lot of these people make up the Democrat voting base.
And you know, some of these people, if you're a
high level sees employment senior executive service, you make a
(54:37):
quarter of a million dollars a year. Right, These people
are able to stroke checks for you know, ten thousand
dollars if they see a candidate they like, you know,
maybe donate thirty thousand in a cycle. All of a sudden,
these people are going to be leaving, so it's going
to hurt their financial base. So it's going to be
(55:02):
fascinating to watch what happens. There are very few states
that have off year elections, the odd year elections, like Virginia.
Virginia is the most prominent one. New Jersey sometimes gets
a little attention. I think Mississippi may be one, but
clearly Virginia is the most important state. And it's it's
(55:28):
just kind of a toss up to figure out exactly
what's going on. It's just a little bit too early to.
Speaker 1 (55:36):
Do we still have do we still have approximately eight
hundred thousand retired military people in the state in the
Commonwealth of Virginia.
Speaker 3 (55:45):
The number of it, but I know it's tremendous because
if you go down to Norfolk, Norfolk naval base in
the world, so tremendous concentration there. We've got We've got
the Pentagon, That's how I got through the pen A going.
Uh and we've got, you know, many other bases like
(56:05):
Quantico Marine Base, very significant. We've got a number of
of air bases, Andrews Air Force Base Oceania, lots of
lots of military air bases. So uh, yeah, there's a
lot of a lot of military folks. And ah, the
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military has shifted a little bit politically from what it
used to be, particularly under under Biden, where he he
drove out a lot of a lot of patriotic Americans
and and sometimes replaced them with the people who were
(56:47):
DEI not not very patriotic, not very in love with
their country. So on. On balance, the military retirees are
a conservative block, but not entirely conservative. We just we'll see.
It's it's a very complex situation in in Virginia, and uh,
(57:12):
the the Democrats have got their grips on it. But
but still we've we've got a good fighting chance to
take it back.
Speaker 1 (57:22):
Well that's good news. I want to thank you Senator
Black for coming back on the two mics, doctor Michael Ahead.
Speaker 2 (57:28):
It's always a delight to have you here, sir. We could,
we could have a weekly chat with you, would be terrific,
so God bless you and many many things.
Speaker 3 (57:36):
Well, thank you. I've appreciated it. Keep on fighting day
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one of our Virginia former Virginia State Senators, Colonel Dick Black,
who is with us on the screen once again, we
welcome back to the new year, twenty twenty five. Colonel Black,
Welcome back to two Mic, sir.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
It's good to be with you.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Oh, it's always good to have you, sir. Where would
you like to start? I mean today is you just
said Cash Patel was confirmed, which is really really important.
That's really good. We have cash Pateel, we have Palestine.
We just talked about twenty billion dollars for Stacy Abrams
and Georgia. So start it up, Go ahead, Dick, welcome back.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
Yeah, well, great news that cash Pateel is now confirmed.
I guess he could be sworn in at any time
of the president's choosing. He got in by a vote
of fifty one to forty nine. Of course, all of the
Democrats were against him, and then two of the Republican
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ladies for their Susan Collins and the Senator from Alaska,
So and McConnell actually voted for him. This is interesting,
But at any of that, if you think of it,
there are eleven thousand FBI agents. During the big Democrat
(03:41):
drive to suppress Republican votes and supporters and so forth,
they put forty of the entire FBI to work on
attacking Republican activists by going after the people who had
been at this massive demonstration in Washington to protest the
(04:05):
stolen election in twenty twenty. There's a lady in my church.
She didn't even go into the Capitol or anything, but
she went to the demonstration. They were after her, interviewing her,
questioning her for you know, they went on for a
couple of years. Different people that I've run into have
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have been victims of this, and it really was a
massive suppression effort in hopes that the Democrats had of
terrorizing Republicans to withdraw from politics. And it didn't work, obviously,
But if you think of it, forty percent five thousand
(04:54):
FBI agents are now freed up to do things like
helping to seal the border, going after sanctuary cities, investigating them,
investigating organizations that have been involved in fraudulently diverting massive
(05:15):
amounts of money. You mentioned money going to Stacy Abrams.
I'm not saying it was crooked. I'm saying it's highly irregular,
and so the FBI needs to be looking into things
like this, saying, okay, let's go after the corruption that
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has really characterized the Biden administration. So Caashptel. The Democrats
hated seeing him come in because he is a no nonsense,
really a fierce advocate of law enforcement. So we've got
some very good things on the way.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
With that.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Blank, do you think that there's any any reason to
worry that the forty percent of the FBI that was
assigned to ruin the Republicans, and Trump enjoyed that, and
they had they had been doing that over the course
of four years, not just for or maybe longer, maybe
a second term of four years.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
Yeah, I think the senior leadership of the FBI is
horribly corrupt, horribly anti American, horribly disdainful of the US
Constitution and the rights of ordinary citizens. Now, there were
a lot of FBI agents who were good folks who
(06:39):
were simply forced to do the investigations that they did,
and I think I think there's going to be a
weeding out process. They've already identified everybody who was involved
in the on the investigations of the demonstration. They're going
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to have to look into it and figure out which
ones were instigators and which ones were simply compliant with
the instructions that they got to go in and investigate.
There are a lot of bad apples. It's not just
a couple. We know that the senior leadership was horribly corrupt.
(07:23):
You know, I ended up running a Senate election, I
guess my last Senate election before I retired, and it
was the wife of an FBI agent who was in
discussions with Governor Terry mcculliff, and the next thing, he's rising, rising,
(07:44):
rising to where he ends up in a position to
potentially help to block the investigation of Hillary Clinton with
her wiping thousands of emails from her email server in
controversial contravention of a court order, I believe. So there's
(08:10):
there's a lot of bad actors at very high levels.
And there are some of these just career bureaucrats in
the FBI who many many career bureaucrats of FBI are
real dedicated, great people, but some of them are really nasty, uh,
power brokers who who are working against the American people.
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That's what cash Bettel's got ahead of him. He's gotta
he's got to figure it all out and try to
fix it.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
A No, I was just gonna, isn't Is it not
incumbent im an FBI person or a c I a
person to refuse as the military is or is is
it's incumbent on the military to refuse in a legal order.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
Well, yeah, if it's something that he knows is unlawful,
he's not supposed to do it. Now we know that
there was one, there was one FBI agent who was
actually convicted of making a false official document basically forgery. Yes,
(09:23):
where he created a document that was really a fundamental
part of the whole Russia hoax, and he used that
then to get one of these FEISA warrants that opened
the door so that the FBI could spy on the
(09:45):
incoming Trump administration. Even before Trump was sworn into office,
they had begun spying on him by virtue of a
false document created by the FBI.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Yeah, what's the statute of limitations on that?
Speaker 3 (10:06):
It varies. I mean there's typically a five year statute
of limitations on many things, but it varies. It depends
on what the particular offense is.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Okay, well, everybody should know that your background. You are
a former JAG officer, correct.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
Yeah, that's right. I was the chief of the Criminal
Law Division at the Pentagon.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
Right. So. And also we do have in our area,
our community within the Beltway, Virginia and Maryland, we have
a lot of FBI living in that area, many FBI agents,
we do.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
And we've got a lot of fine folks. I have
a just a delightful fellow who who attends church with me,
has got a great, big family, beautiful family, wonderful people.
His wife's a real firecracker conservative. So there are lots
of good people, and you know, we don't want them
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to get swept up as we're wayne in Howse.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
But did you hear anything about a name for a
deputy to cash Pattel? Is there a name out there?
I don't know that, Okay, Mike, did you hear anything?
Speaker 2 (11:21):
I have not heard either, Colonel Okay.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
All right, So that's a that's another win for Trump,
amazing fifty one. So let's take that and let's go
a little bit now to what's going on in the Gulf,
in the Middle East, center of the Black I mean,
you've been following this from the beginning October seventh, going
on two years. What do you think of this plan?
(11:47):
You know, mind sweep this Gaza strip and rebuild it
like Monaco or you know, Miami on the med I mean,
what do you think of that? I don't think all
the Arabs are going for it, but he's trying to
sell it. It's not good for Cairo, it's not good
for Egypt, it's not good for some of the people
within the area where the Muslim Brotherhood could rise. What
(12:09):
do you say about that?
Speaker 3 (12:11):
Yeah, well, I think it's based on a false premise
that somehow the Palestinian people from Gaza don't want to
go back because it's all been bombed to smither, rings
which it has. The Israelis have systematically destroyed all infrastructure
(12:36):
that supports human life, and I think clearly the idea
was to drive all Palestinian people out of there. It's
important to remember that there are no Jewish people in
Gaza zero. There are a few Christians about one percent.
(12:58):
Most of the people in Aza, or Muslims. Why Israel
even wants it is a question. I mean, it's it's
probably should just be its own political entity. But the
people who live there, that is their home. It's like
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if the United States were just bombed mercilessly. It would
take almost nuclear weapons to do the same thing to
the United States that's been done to Gaza. But even
if there were nuclear even if there was just a
nuclear whole cost here, how many of us would say, oh,
(13:42):
I want to get out of the United States. It's
you know, it's all torn down. I think ordinary people
say Okay, let's get up and go again. And people
will go back to the place where their home used
to stand and that's what they got, that's what they own,
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and they'll you know, they may put up a little
little cardboard and stick shack to live in, but they
don't just say, oh, let's go somewhere else in the
world and get out of here. There's no evidence whatsoever
that the people in Gaza want to leave Gaza. They
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want the war to end. Keep in mind, just the
tiniest portion of the population in Gaza had any inkling
about the raid that was about to be done on
the Israeli settlements. So most of these people, i'd say,
you know, ninety five percent probably higher, had no inkling
(14:51):
of it. And basically they were just trying to live
their lives and you know, raise their families, their children,
you know, tend to they're end of their crops and things,
and so they don't want to leave. And I think
the Arab countries have you know, they've made it pretty
clear we don't support having them driven out and turning
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it into a kind of a riviera for foreigners to
come in and take over. And you know, way the
casinos and stuff, that's not what the people who live
there want. They just want a place where they can
survive and where their children can live.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Well, you know, it's so much of Israeli foreign policy
to me is just based on Laban's realm, if you will,
and to pull a traveling in that particularly welcome words.
But what the greater israel business is? Somehow in their mind,
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more land makes more security. And it just seems to
me with the population that doesn't grow very much, and
with what over a million or maybe a million and
a half by now Israelis who have left the country
because of the war, where are they going to get
the people to control it? I would wonder, And I
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don't know why someone hasn't said in that Yehu, you
know you're a nutcake. We're never going to supply you
a garrison to protect yourselves. You can't keep your army
in the field right now, very well, there's people not
showing up to fight, And it just seems to me
it's almost a nineteenth century approach to national security.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
Well, it's a strange situation over there in the United States.
While we provide all of the arms, we have very
little control over it. I you know, I was quite
disappointed that the legitimate government of Syria was overthrown. It
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took thirteen years to do it, but in the end
they just sort of collapsed because they had no food.
They've been blockaded, starved, just bled to death for thirteen years.
And now accommodation in the United States, Turkey, Israel, Great Britain,
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they've all installed al Qaeda. Now, al Qaeda was the
group that flew the planes into the Twin Towers and
the Pentagon, killing three thousand American people on nine to eleven.
It was only ten years between nine to eleven and
when the Central Intelligence Agency was working day and night
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to put al Qaeda in control of Syria, and they didn't.
The Syrians were so adamantly opposed that it took it
took thirteen years to pull it off. And now what
have we achieved by by the massive slaughter of people
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in Syria and the new government of Syria. You have
a guy Mohammed al Jilani, who was the founder of
al Qaeda in Syria. He was very closely associated with
the with the founder of ices and he fought against
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American troops in Iraq. He was jailed in the Abu
Grave prison, later moved to Syria where he took over
the al Qaeda forces there, which really were the heart
and soul of the whole revolution against the Syrian government.
Under him, they would capture Syrian soldiers periodically, and at
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one time I remember they they sort of surrounded a
bunch of them in an air base, and after a
long siege, the Syrian soldiers surrendered and they stripped them
into their underwear. They ran them out in the desert,
and then they beheaded all and they put them in
a line and beheaded them one after the other, so
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that the people waiting in line to be beheaded had
to watch the others being beheaded first. This is the
nature of these people. When you talk about evil. Al Qaeda,
the group that now controls Syria because we put them
in power, is as evil as any group of human
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beings that you can imagine on the planet. They conducted
a campaign of mass organized rape throughout the country, raping
not only all of the women that they captured, but
all of the little girls and the little boys.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
They attracted pedophiles from all over the world who came
to fight against the Syrian government because they knew that
under al Qaeda they could own small children, they could
rape small children, and be completely immunized under the law
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of al Qaeda. You know you can, you can have
sex with a seven eight nine year old child and
both boys and girls, and they did it on a
massive scale. And so now this is the government that's
been put in place, and I think I think Biden
(20:50):
made a decision, a very conscious decision. He wanted to
create as much chaos for Trump as possible before Trump
moved in and uh and took control. And so one
of the things he did is I think he he
made a big push to to overthrow the government so
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that Trump would be in this damned if you do,
damned if you don't situation where what does he do?
How does how does he does he work with this
new al Qaeda government? Does he somehow try to oppose it?
He's left in an impossible situation. Uh. Israel has managed
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to seize some additional territory and they kind of take
whatever they want, but as you mentioned, here's the problem,
how much how much land do they want with the
population that they've got.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
Today they reported Dick that that Israel has troops since
here in Lebanon, and UH, that's kind of that's kind
of this heartening to think that you know, this is
the neighbor and really they don't have a war going
on with living on other than the fact that every
other day there's a hes Blood. They say, there's a
hes Blah looking for them. So it's just a greater
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it's an expansion, like Mike said, the greater Israel, which
we saw on the map at the UN Remember when
he came to you and he said, here, these are
going to be our trading partners. But he basically showed
us a greater Israel. And it's not good for America's image.
It's not good. And I hope that Trump changes a
lot of his position on what's going on there. Apparently
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he's lightening up on Zelinsky. What do you say to
that one? He's like, I'm not I'm not too into
Zelensky anymore.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
And showed the other one. I think Trump he's only
got so much maneuvering room in the in the Middle East,
and he's you know, he's had some success. They're already
with with you know, with the hostage swap, and at
least he's got some discussions going on. So I give
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him a little bit of leeway because it's very difficult
for the president of the United States to to deal
with somebody like Netan Yahoo who is in a position
to pull a lot of strings behind the scenes. And
so we'll see. But now in Ukraine, I think I
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think Trump is going to have an enormous win in
Ukraine because he you know, it's all started with a
ninety minute phone call that he had with President Putin.
And I've always I've always liked to see Trump talk
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to other leaders one on one, not at some.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
Big you know, yes, I agree, I agree because Trump is.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
A good listener. People don't realize that, but I've been.
I've been on the receiving end of it once where
you know, he asked me a question. I was one
of the warm up speakers for him during his at the.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
Richmond Colisseum that the rich Mind guy was there Richmond Colosseum.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
And and so afterwards he would have two or three
warm up speakers and then he'd come on. And so
afterwards he came up to me as he was they
were taking him out the back door. He said, hey,
he said, he said, are we are we going to
win Virginia? And I told him, I said, unfortunately, I
(24:40):
don't think we will. And so I'm giving him news
he doesn't want to hear, and so he just stopped
and he said, said, why do you think this is?
And so we began to talk back and forth and
and at a certain point, Secret Service and his entourage
started yelling, mister President, I'm not miss President, but Donald Trump,
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We've got to get going, got to meet the next appointment.
He said, no, he said, I want to talk to
this guy, and so he just continued. We probably talked
for fifteen minutes or so, and he was very attentive
to everything that was said. And this happens with foreign leaders.
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The problem we have with foreign policy is that presidents
get intelligence briefings that are extraordinarily distorted. We talk about
people as bad guys and so forth, and we always
forget the history that led up to what they're doing.
(25:52):
For example, I don't think the State Department CIA wanted
to talk about the fact that under Obama, we overthrew
the government of Ukraine and we installed a revolutionary hunter
that forced portions of Ukraine to declare their independence the
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Russian speaking areas, and then Obama armed and built up
a huge Ukrainian army to go and attack those areas,
and Putin was desperately trying to avoid war. Russia was
not on a war footing. Their army many many of
(26:38):
their soldiers were not even allowed to go past the
Russian borders under existing law, so they were totally unready.
And the Foreign Minister, Lavrov was a wonderful diplomat, and I.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
Think he's one of the best out there, Dick, he's
been out there along, was a great speaker, he's.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
Fantastic, He is an amazing man. And he and President
put together proposals to say, look, let's let's ward off
this coming war, and NATO just sort of brushed it off.
It was we know where this is headed. We don't
want to want to waste time diverting attention. So eventually
(27:24):
it reached a point where the Ukrainian army, massive army
was about to attack the Lugansk Republic and the Natzig Republic.
They had very small armies and they were to just
swamp them and then they would have driven their forces,
Ukrainian forces right up to the Russian borders. Who knows
(27:47):
whether they would have stopped there. Russia had no choice
but to launch the attack. You know, there's a standard
rule of thumb in the military that you need to
have a numerical advantage of at least three to one
when you're attacking as opposed to defend it. When Putin
(28:09):
ordered the attack by Russian forces across the border into Ukraine,
the numerical odds were reversed, so you had one Russian
versus three Ukrainians, and the Russians were attacking despite this
(28:30):
huge numerical disadvantage. They did it because they wanted to
upset the attack schedule for the Ukrainian armies that were
about to attack the Russian speaking areas. So yes, you
can technically say, okay, Putin started the war by attacking
(28:57):
across the border, but that's ignoring a lot of history,
including the fact that there was already a hot war
that had killed fourteen thousand people. It wasn't a real
small war, and this was Ukraine attacking these two areas
that had, for very good reasons, declared their independence just
(29:19):
you know, the United States colonies. We declared our independence
against against England, and somehow we seem to think it
makes no sense for anybody else to do the same
thing we did. But it made very good sense for Primea,
which has always been Russian, and Donatsi and Lolgansk because
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they were being told, Okay, Russia is no longer a
legitimate language. So if you're a school teacher who has
been teaching school for forty years, if you can't speak
the other language, you're gone. If you want to go
and get a driver's license as a Russian speaking person
in the domestic republic, then you have to get an
(30:09):
interpreter because everything will be done only in Ukrainian. So
they you know, if you understand the background. The background
is a little complex, but if you understand it, you say, wow,
what Ukraine was doing was outrageous and it's no wonder
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there was a war.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
Well, he didn't even want an election. I mean, you know,
he's a tyrant, this guy. He wouldn't permit an election either.
Speaker 3 (30:38):
Yeah. Yeah, you know, for the first time, you got
President Trump saying, hey, look the guy's not even the
elected president of Ukraine. He has been out of office
for about a year and he refuses to allow elections.
And they say, oh, well, you know it's because there's
(31:01):
martial law that they can't have election. Well, don't give
me that. If Zelensky woke up tomorrow morning and said, hey,
look we're gonna I want parliament to put through a
bill that makes an exception to martial law so we
hold elections. They would have it done that afternoon. The
reason is that there is only one party. Zelensky outlawed
(31:26):
every other political party in Ukraine except his own, and
that then he he controls, he exercises power through the
secret police. Uh. He is a total dictator. There is
nothing democratic about this man whatsoever.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
Well, go ahead, Mike, Yeah, I just.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
I'm both Ukraine and uh, the Middle East. I think
if we took a series of Ukraine large with Europe included,
if you look at what we're doing or what we're
faced with, it seems to me that the one best
thing for America would be to stay out of the way.
(32:13):
If Netanyahu wants to expand to Jordan and over Syria,
it's up to the Arabs to stop. It's not up
to us, especially since with pump is back and we're
going to be energy independent. It's not a nice thing
(32:33):
to see, But is it worth continuing a pattern of
foreign policy that involves us in wars that are astronomically expensive,
terribly bloody on both the enemy and ourselves, and we
never win. You when you look it just seems to
(32:53):
me to be common sense to say enough, we're staying home.
We've got some work to do here, and this whole
idea of keeping NATO when you know Advance, Advance's speech
at Munich was a tremendously honest speech and a tremendously
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realistic one that NATO alliance was not only a defense alliance,
it was to protect democracy. And from what I can tell,
and we're certainly not getting honest reporting out of Europe.
But when they make a mistake and they show us
people being arrested because they're praying next to an abortion center,
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that they won't even talk about the two hundred and
fifty thousand young ladies who have been raped by Pakistani groomers.
What in the hell are we paying to support them for?
There seems to be a lack of common sense in
this country in something as simple as what is our
(33:57):
business and what is not? And until we figure that
one out, it seems to me more the same is likely,
and more the same is tremendous expenditures, dead American kids
on the field, and more enemies for the United States.
So I know the world is not a simple place,
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and I've never thought it was, But there are points
where it's not an offense to the United States that,
as the leader, so called leader of the free world,
that we don't take rec we don't take umbrage at
people fighting to get their independence or their self determination,
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as the professors call it. It just seems to me
that this is the time for that. We've got lots
to do here at home. Let the Israelis fight if
they want, but stop arming them, and stop arming NATO
and paying for their their you know, whether they say
sixty percent of the NATO alliance is funded by us,
(35:05):
maybe that's too simplistic, but we've tried the other since
nineteen forty five, the internationalists americal leader of the Free
world wars everywhere, paying for alliances which other attendees are
cheating or just not paying. It seems to me there's
(35:25):
a lesson here that's not all that opaque, and if
we learned it, we might be better off and might
have a more common sense foreign policy.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
Well, you know, I agree with that. It's interesting that
Trump has touched on something that is a very obvious
truth that's never spoken about. The United States is protected
by five thousand or five or six thousand miles of
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open blue water ocean on both sides. And so the
idea that somehow Russia or China or Rant or all
of these other places threatened is malwarkey.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
It is right.
Speaker 3 (36:18):
They may be in a geopolitical struggle. Maybe there's maybe
we're competing economically in that kind of thing, but you look,
China is mainland China is you know, I don't know,
it's one hundred and fifty miles between that and Taiwan,
(36:42):
which is, you know, traditionally a province of China. That's
an enormous barrier between mainland China and Taiwan, which is
why it's you know, they're not going to attack tomorrow,
because it's that's a that's a very tough not to crack.
But the English Channel twenty one miles separates England from
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the rest of Europe, and yet it's protected Europe, you know,
for hundreds and hundreds of years from invasion twenty one miles.
There actually are people who can swim twenty one miles,
and here we are. We've got five thousand miles six
thousand in the case of the Pacific that separate dus
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So that's the greatest defensive barrier on the face of
the planet. The United States is gifted with that in
a way that other great countries are not. Now, I
think Trump he's very accurate and saying, look, we were
protected by these oceans, and he's just announced I don't
(37:58):
know that he has announced it, but Secretary of Defense
Pete Hegset has announced that the decision was made that
the United States will cut its defense budget eight percent
a year for five years. Now, if you do that,
it's a sloping curve, so it ends up that at
the end of the five years, the defense budget has
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gone down from eight hundred and fifty billion dollars down
to I believe it's five hundred and twenty one billion,
thirty four percent reduction by the end of that period,
which is unprecedented. I don't know when it's happened, except
maybe the wind down from the Second World War something
(38:45):
like that. But it is a very very massive cut
in the overall defense budget, and I think it reflects
President Trump's realization that we are protected by our oceans.
We need to slim down so that we don't bankrupt ourselves,
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and and then what we have left, we're going to
harden it. We're going to make our troops much more
combat effective than they ever had been in recent years.
So I think we're seeing good things on the horizon. Politically,
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it's it's not always easy to deny weapons to especially
to Israel. But but I think, I think what he's done,
what he's done so far and what he's in the
process of doing, is historic. It's probably the greatest foreign
(39:50):
policy shift in ever ever since the Second World War,
where we you know, coming out of the Second World War,
we were dominant over the world and particularly Europe. Europe
was was destroyed, Germany was shattered, and we we set
(40:13):
up a system where NATO was run by a US
general and NATO exerted power and influence throughout Europe. Then
we created this European Union, which was the most undemocratic
form of government on the planet. There. You know, their
executive branch is not elected, it's this European Commission, And
(40:37):
I don't even know exactly how they decide who's going
to be that. My guess is the US has a
big input, but the people have no input on on
who is the who runs the executive branch or the EU.
Then you have members of all the countries who elect
uh members of Parliament to go to the europe In Parliament.
(41:01):
But guess what, they can't introduce bills. You know, they
go there and they it's well, they received legislation that's
handed down by these unelected bureaucrats of the European Commission,
(41:21):
and then they're able to sort of monkey around with
them a little bit and and carb a little on
the edges and that kind of thing. Well, this is
this is absolute tyranny. This is not democratic. We're always saying, oh,
you know our democratic partners.
Speaker 1 (41:37):
In Europe, Yeah, Dick, we have we have people that
come on the two mics that talk about our democratic
allies or NATO allies. And I laughed myself for if
I'm like, come on, you guys have been in the
military thirty years, your officers in the military retired. What
democratic ally you talking about. They're locking up people in
(41:58):
Britain for free space each There's a guy, there's a
guy on the internet that was in the first Trump administration.
He was with the d n I and NSA, and
he's always talking about how great out like great Britain. Yeah,
they're the ones that's fight on Trump. They're the ones
in a luck looked at people for free speech.
Speaker 3 (42:19):
Yeah, I ended up on a this disinformation list out
of Ukraine that that was you know, it was set
up with the help of this Nina Jankowitz or whatever
her name was, or had tried to do the same
thing in the United States, and then they said, no,
(42:39):
we're not gonna We're not going to have censorship here.
So she goes over and she does censorship there, and uh,
you know, and all of Europe is into this thing,
you've you know, in Germany, it's sad. Uh. They passed
laws after the Second World that said said you you
(43:00):
can't challenge certain things, you can't use certain phrases, and
they've jailed people for it. And now here in Germany,
the only party that gives any voice whatsoever to the
German people is the Alternative for Deutsche Land, which is
AfD Party. And now people are swarming to the AfD
(43:26):
party because Germany is in a terrible recession. Now people
are going hungry in the streets, and and well.
Speaker 1 (43:35):
They wanted to fight Putin, you know, Senator Black, they
wanted to fight Putin, and then they found out that
they got to chop down trees to heat their homes.
How stupid is that for smart people?
Speaker 3 (43:46):
You know, I think the people wanted to fight Putin
the government did, and unfortunately the United States decides the
government of Germany.
Speaker 1 (43:58):
Yes, yes, no, I don't mean the people absolutely know
the government, of course, but I mean they had these
people chopping down trees, going back to wood burning stoves
because well, we have to fight Putin and we don't
we don't want the oil. Well, how stupid is that?
Speaker 3 (44:14):
Green climatism business nonsense? But they they got the Germans.
Germans had a wonderful whole industry. It's a very very profitable,
good industry. They told them, oh, you got to shut
it down, so they shut it down, and they said, okay,
(44:34):
well we'll build nuclear power plants. That'll make up for
some So then they said, oh, you got to shut
down the nuclear power plants, so they did. Okay, so
now you got to you got to you know, power
up a great industrial nation with pin wheels and sun chips.
And now they say, oh, wait, you know, in the winter,
(44:57):
it didn't work real well because windmills don't sit in
and the one chips they don't have any suns. So yeah,
so I guess a little bit cold now, and then
I mean it's a disaster. And then along comes Biden,
and Biden ordered the CIA to carry out a very
(45:18):
complex operation whereby American divers went down and set charges
and blew up the Nordstream pipeline, and the Nordstream pipeline
was feeding natural gas from Russia into Germany. And what
happens Germany is a little bit unique. And you can't
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understand their economy if you don't understand the importance of
the chemical industry there right hundreds of years ago, well
at least one hundred and fifty years ago, maybe there's
a guy named Fober Hunts Fober. I think he came
(46:01):
up with this ingenious system whereby you could take natural
gas and air and with it you could produce ammonia,
and with that you could produce ammonium nitrate fertilizer, biggest
fertilizer in the world. And with that you could go
on and on and every chemical produced. Beginning with natural gas,
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they become more and more complex until you're doing pharmaceuticals
and you're doing automobile paints and all kinds of things.
In Ludwikshaven, Germany, there is a massive chemical works there's
some three thousand chemical plants, each one building on the
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other increasing complexity. Is the biggest chemical concentration in any
country in the world. We go in, we cut off
the natural gas, which is at the top of this
pyramid of the chemical industry. We cut it off and
we say, okay, now you've got to buy natural gas
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from US at five or six times the price. So
all of a sudden, the price of all the chemicals
out of Germany goes soaring through the roof, and now
companies are going bankrupt right and left in Germany, and
it's not going to happen until they get cheap, reliable
(47:31):
Russian gas again. So we do things like this, the
idea that somehow Germany is our great ally and all
these others. No, we don't think any of them will
destroy their economy in the wink of an eye. If
we think it'll, it'll help bring down Ukraine and maybe
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make a little bit, a little bit of cash for
some of the some of the people, some of the
sons of senators and presidents.
Speaker 2 (48:08):
It's a world that is you know, I think for
sometimes we have an educational, an educated elite that runs
this country. Serve that the only things that are complex
are worth can considering the complexity. How many times does
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somebody start a speech or an answer to a question
that this is very complex, and you know, we have
to do this and do this, and it takes forty
years and you never solve anything. But you made within
thirty seconds or minute two thirds of the answer to
a great for a policy problem for us. Two oceans
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put there by God, and a secure border. You have that.
It's plenty. You know, all the brilliant professors say things, well,
that ocean business is just you know, yesterday when there
was sailing ships with masts and sales on them. And
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I always think when I hear that is that we
had a goodly well protected border, or at least a
better protected border and two oceans during the Cold War,
and it made us unassailable except by a nuclear war,
which would have destroyed the attacker in return. And the
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Russians couldn't figure out how to get enough of an
army here to occupy us. The Chinese aren't going to
be able to do it except through the open border.
There's certain basics in America. And the other thing we've
forgotten is that we are all falling creatures that there's
a lot of people who are not concerned or not
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even aware of that fact that people can be tremendously
positive and kind and knowledgeable, but they also can be bastards.
And if you don't keep that in mind, it seems
to me the scum sometimes rises to the top. And
(50:28):
you put that natural order of things together with the
way our educational system works at the moment, we have
a hell of a problem.
Speaker 1 (50:35):
Well, you could make Germany great again, Mike. Just kick
out America, Just kick out America. Did you see, Dick
that they moved the Volkswagen plants when they closed them.
They had to close the Volkswegen plants, and Putin said, well,
just move them over to Russia. Oh is that right?
Speaker 2 (50:54):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (50:55):
And he told because they were all unemployed overnight, and
he said, hey, we got Volkswagen plants in Russia. Get
over here, will give you jobs. I mean, in order
for the Europeans to get back on their feet properly,
they're going to have to stand up to the Americans
and say, look, there's enough problems in the world. We
signed on to this. We cut our own throats. We
want to say good night. I won't close this show,
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unless I asked Senator Black Mike, what about this next
year election in Virginia. What do you think, Dick?
Speaker 3 (51:27):
You know, it's very unclear. One of the things that
we know is happening is that Virginia has a tremendous
number of federal employees. Correct for the most part, they're Democrats.
Not in some areas like the FBI are not not
(51:47):
predominantly Democrat, probably more Republican there, but in the other
agencies they tend to be almost uniformly Democrat. A lot
of those people, particularly at the higher levels, are going
to lose their jobs. They're they're already starting to move
out of of the area. We don't know exactly how
(52:09):
that's going to play out. It's it's going to diminish
the Democrat financial base, particularly in northern Virginia. At the
same time, you could say, well, will it fire up
the Democrat base to campaign? I don't know. Sometimes when
(52:31):
you're when you're out pounding the pavement looking for a job,
the last thing you're thinking about is is elections. So
it's unclear how this is going to play out. I
do know that the the DEI has become so so
(52:52):
ingrained in everything in Virginia that it's really become just
a horror story here and uh, and there's no indication
yet that Virginia's is moving quickly to get in line
with Trump Trump's position on de EI. So we still
(53:13):
have tremendous racial discrimination, we still have the transgender horror
that's being faced by our children in schools all the time.
So there's lots of reasons that that good leaders can
can step forward, run for office and uh and win elections.
(53:37):
But it's it's just a little unclear at this point.
It's too early to tell, but it's going to be
very interesting. I think I think Republicans should be able
to take back at least one well, the only the
only house that's up for election is the House of Delegates.
But if we can take the House of Delegates, we
(53:58):
can block a tremendous amount of really really, so, have you.
Speaker 1 (54:03):
Seen the latest reports in your area Loudin County the
amount of homes that are up for sale, and I
mean quickly within two weeks, it's a tremendous percentage.
Speaker 3 (54:14):
There are lots of federal worker who are resigning getting
out of the area. This is what I'm talking about.
A lot of these people make up the Democrat voting base.
And you know, some of these people, if you're a
high level sees employment senior executive service, you make a
(54:37):
quarter of a million dollars a year. Right, These people
are able to stroke checks for you know, ten thousand
dollars if they see a candidate they like, you know,
maybe donate thirty thousand in a cycle. All of a sudden,
these people are going to be leaving, so it's going
to hurt their financial base. So it's going to be
(55:02):
fascinating to watch what happens. There are very few states
that have off year elections, the odd year elections, like Virginia.
Virginia is the most prominent one. New Jersey sometimes gets
a little attention. I think Mississippi may be one, but
clearly Virginia is the most important state. And it's it's
(55:28):
just kind of a toss up to figure out exactly
what's going on. It's just a little bit too early to.
Speaker 1 (55:36):
Do we still have do we still have approximately eight
hundred thousand retired military people in the state in the
Commonwealth of Virginia.
Speaker 3 (55:45):
The number of it, but I know it's tremendous because
if you go down to Norfolk, Norfolk naval base in
the world, so tremendous concentration there. We've got We've got
the Pentagon, That's how I got through the pen A going.
Uh and we've got, you know, many other bases like
(56:05):
Quantico Marine Base, very significant. We've got a number of
of air bases, Andrews Air Force Base Oceania, lots of
lots of military air bases. So uh, yeah, there's a
lot of a lot of military folks. And ah, the
(56:27):
military has shifted a little bit politically from what it
used to be, particularly under under Biden, where he he
drove out a lot of a lot of patriotic Americans
and and sometimes replaced them with the people who were
(56:47):
DEI not not very patriotic, not very in love with
their country. So on. On balance, the military retirees are
a conservative block, but not entirely conservative. We just we'll see.
It's it's a very complex situation in in Virginia, and uh,
(57:12):
the the Democrats have got their grips on it. But
but still we've we've got a good fighting chance to
take it back.
Speaker 1 (57:22):
Well that's good news. I want to thank you Senator
Black for coming back on the two mics, doctor Michael Ahead.
Speaker 2 (57:28):
It's always a delight to have you here, sir. We could,
we could have a weekly chat with you, would be terrific,
so God bless you and many many things.
Speaker 3 (57:36):
Well, thank you. I've appreciated it. Keep on fighting day
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