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Christina Bob Attorney. I guess I'llhave to read all Oh my gosh,
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she's gonna tremendous resume, and shehas a new book out, Steal In
Your Vote, The Inside Story ofthe twenty twenty Election and what it means
for twenty twenty four. Little background. She's an investigative reporter, attorney,
former television host corresponding with One AmericanNews Yeay, where she reported almost exclusively
on election integrity. Christina has beganher legal career in the United States Marine
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Corps Mike, serving as Devens Councilre representing Marines and sale as the court
martials and administrative separation hearings. Sheserved in multiple overseas tours, including Helman
Province, Afghanistan, Stutgart, Germany, and her military service Miss Bob.
Transition to private practice at a privatelaw firm in San Diego and then to
Washington, DC, where she heldexecutive level positions with the Department of Poland's
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Scarity. Christina currently serves as anattorney for President Donald J. Trump.
Thank you, ma'am. Okay,welcome to the show, Christine, Thank
you so much for having me.All Right, So you're an attorney for
Donald J. Trump, president elect. Tell us a little bit about tell
us a little bit about this.Yeah, I mean, it certainly is
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the most exciting and unanticipated legal workthat I've ever done. For sure,
you never know what's gonna come upone day. So I'm honored to do
it. And I think I'm honoredto work, not just do the work,
but I'm honored to work for DonaldTrump. I think he is a
remarkable figure in American politics today andI think he will be a historic figure
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for many many generations to come.And getting to see what I see and
you know, have the vantage pointthat I've got, really truly is an
honor and a privilege. Well,are you being harassed by all these people
like the other lawyers? Yes,yes, I am. It is this
amazing. You're in the legal practice. I mean, that's your business law,
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and you have these jackals you know, in the city and state and
county and federal governments just trying totake him down. And we know why
because he's popular and he's good,and he doesn't belong through the club.
You know, we both came fromNew York, Mike and I, so
we know Donald Trump since the daysof Queens New York. You know,
Yeah, he's fantastic, and you'reright, he's not part of their club.
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They feel that you know, theypay pay their dues or you know,
whatever thought process goes through their mind. But they feel ENTI to run
the United States government, and they'renot. That is an honor and a
privilege that belongs solely to the Americanpeople and to nobody else. Yes,
certainly they are Americans, but they'renot the exclusive Americans with the right to
run our government. So they seemto be a little bit confused at the
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moment. I think they're big timeconfused. Now, you take all of
the guys from New York, likeChuck Schumer and others, you know,
they've been there grifting for lifetimes.Christina. I mean, I remember in
high school Chuck Schumerer just just wentto Harvard when I was in New York.
And when he came out, henever had a job. He was
in the State Assembly and all youknow in New York. So he's got
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like triple pensions and he's the strongestguy. Right now in the Senate,
we have a very very feeble leaderminority leader, you know, at Mitch
McConnell. So it's really sad forus as a party of Republican Party.
So let's go right to your book. Go ahead, talk tell us a
little bit more about your book,Sure Stealing Your Vote, the inside story
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the twenty twenty election, and whatit means for twenty me For I was
a reporter. I was an investigativereporter at the time, reporting from the
White House on November three, SoI give you the perspective of, you
know, what was happening, youknow, kind of inside DC on that
night, as well as between Novemberthree and January sixth. And then during
that time, I volunteered to joinRudy Giuliani's post election legal team, and
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I interacted with a lot of thestate legislatures there to try to, you
know, have discussions with them andprovide them with information. So yeah,
the book goes through that process andtells you what I what I found,
and the way I like to summarizeit is that Democrats cheated, but Republicans
covered it up. I was shockedat the amount of Republican interference that was
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taking place to prevent us from actuallycleaning up the election. Pennsylvania and Georgia,
Michigan, Wisconsin, and Arizona allhad Republican legislators Republican majority legislatures both
House and Senate. Many of themhad Republicans in office. In areas like
Georgia had a Republican governor, attorneygeneral, and secretary of State. The
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attorney general in Arizona was also aRepublican. There were problems all over Wisconsin
in many different counties. There.The sheriff in Wisconsin, I'm sorry,
the sheriff in Racine County actually referredcharges of election fraud to the district the
Republican district attorney who refused to prosecutethe same thing, not the sheriff Shires,
but refusing to investigator prosecute in GreenBay where there was blatant, blatant
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evidence of election tampering. So there'sa lot to look into, and I
hope that people walk away from readingit feeling angered but empowered because there's a
lot we can do. So,yeah, that's kind of the gist of
it. Wow, let me askyou a question. Juliannie went up to
Philadelphia if I'm if I'm correct withKorey Lewandowski, and they basically just slammed
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the door in their face, right, They wouldn't even let him in there.
That was actually Pam Bondi. Soit's Pam Bondi and Corey Lewandowski.
They actually got a court order froma judge in Philadelphia that said they're allowed
to have access to watch the remainingcounts because remember Pennsylvania counted for another three
days. You know, they hadkicked Republicans out, Republicans weren't allowed to
see. So Pam Bondi when gota court order allowing her to her and
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Corey to witness what was happening,and the sheriff didn't enforce the order and
they just said, now we're notgoing to follow the law. Well that
is like a total corrupt Wow,that's so bad. How do we survive
this, Christina, Well, ittakes all of us getting involved, you
know, doing what you guys aredoing talking about it, raising awareness about
the issues. But we're clearly notgoing to be able to clean this up
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from the top down. We aremost corrupted at the top, whether it's
federal or state office. We haveto clean it up at the precinct in
county level. And if you cleanit up at the precincton county level,
we can have a cleanish twenty twentyfour election. But everybody has to get
involved, become precinct committeemen, joinyour party, find a grassroots efforts in
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your area. If you don't knowhow to do that, Michael Lindell put
a network together. It's called Causeof America dot org. And if you're
just trying to figure out what arethe grassroots efforts in your area, they'll
connect you to someone in your countythat you can work with to help clean
this up because we need people workingas pole watcher pole watchers, we need
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people working to clean up voter rolls, canvas, go through training, it's
going This is an all hands ondeck moment for twenty twenty four and we
need everybody involved. Let me askyou a question. Do you know if
we have a majority of constitutional sheriffsin our country? I don't know that
number off the top of my head. I know there's a lot of really
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great sheriffs that are working on this. The problem is the das and the
ags. Right, you can pointout the law, just like we saw
in Wisconsin. They can point itout and say this is a crime.
But if the attorneys don't prosecute,you know, what are what are you
going to do about it? Sothat we I mean, we have a
problem and I'm not in any waytrying to make this light. I do
think we can clean it up,but we are certainly in a dire situation
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us to comments and we appreciate that. That's Lisa from New Mexico. We
want to thank you. Do youthink we'll be able to do it?
Yes? Absolutely? I mean Iwouldn't be going through all of the you
know what that I'm going through ifI do for vail. So yes,
I do think we can and Ithink we will, but I don't want
to sugarcoat it. We're in avery serious situation. I think so too.
I think this could be the lastelection if we don't do it right.
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Yeah, I agree, Mike.What do you say, Christina?
I wanted to ask what happens tothis four year block of time when it's
finally proved that it was a riggedelection, it was stolen, it was
bought, it was you know whatever, whatever we find out eventually, although
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we know enough now to make sureto know that it's been a disaster,
But does it does that? Isthat so if Trump wins wins an election,
if we managed to get things cleanedup, is that count as his
second term and he's done or whathappens to that four year block of time
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that was run by cheating? Yeah? Well, yes, this twenty twenty
four, when he assumes office intwenty twenty five, that would be the
start of his second term and thenfour years in the middle people earn PhDs
on it. How's going to happen? I mean, there's really nothing in
the constitution to handle that, isthere? Well handle it had there.
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I mean it's very complicating. There'sa lot of things that need to take
place. You know, when weget a new congressman as well, hopefully
I don't even want to shakeservatives.I just mean, good honest Americans will
have people of both the House andson. I don't care if you're Democrat,
or Republican, although Republicans seem tobe the only party that has a
room for that right now. Youknow, once we get a legitimate Congress,
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House, and Senate and President Trumpback in office, I think we'll
be able to clean up a lotof the damage. But I don't think
like we can't go back in time, right We're not going to. We
can't undo what they've done, Butwe can clean up our immigration issues.
We can close the border if necessary. Uh, you know, we can.
We can handle the sanctuary city likea lot of the problems that are
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so concerning to Americans. We shouldbe able to clean up fairly quickly once
that happens. But in order todo that, we've got to get Donald
Trump back in offense and also arresta number of people that whatever people are
necessary to arrest to put them inprison for what they've done. Really,
yeah, absolutely, they I meanthis is treason it they literally have.
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They've betrayed our country. So they'vecompletely obliterated the constitution. So I would
like to see, Yes, weneed to see justice. We need to
see people investigated and prosecuted. Idon't love the idea of, you know,
one administration prosecuting another, you know, living through it myself. So
I think we do need to comeup with a creative solution for that and
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not just go down the slippery likenose dive into the slippery slope of prosecutor
by the administration, you know,whatever car administration it is. So I
don't know what that looks like,but I think if we have a legitimate
Congress, we'll be able to comeup with something. If the charges trees
and there's no way to avoid trials, I guess, oh no, I
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don't think we'll avoid trials. Peopleneed to be tried, you know,
we have to preserve our constitution constitutionrights. I just don't necessarily want it
to come from the Department of Justice. I mean, I don't like the
department. I don't like the ideaof the Department of Justice investigating itself.
Well, no, it's a crazyit's crazy. Yeah, it's kind of
silly. And so we've got tocome up with something else. And I
like the idea of working with Congressto come up with a unique solution.
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I don't know what it's going tolook like, but I just don't like
DJ investigating itself. Well, Ithink that One of the wonderful parts of
your work is that you dealt withRepublicans who were essentially just protecting themselves and
assist the corrupt system they created.There's a lot of them. I mean,
there's more than there are not.I mean, if you just look
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at Congress and you you can see, you know, at the federal level
in Congress, which Republicans we wouldcall mega and then all the rhinos,
right, and there's probably more rhinosthan MAGA at this point. And that
ratio and that whole system trickles allthe way down to the county level.
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It does not tabor off. Andall of those people are extremely disciplined.
You would think that one of them, somewhere, whether in a state legislature
or in a in a federal legislature, would come out and say, yeah,
listen, this is this is I'veexperienced this all my life. I
get a check every one, everyevery week, whatever, and no one
comes forth. Yeah, I mean, it's self preservation. They're putting their
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own self interests ahead of the interestsof the country, and they're willing to
burn the country down to keep.What is funny to me about it is
a lot of these people are likecounty commissioners and county supervisors or something like
you're willing to destroy our country soyou can be a county commissioner. I
get it. It's fun to havea title, but like I would rather
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have, you know, the freedomof speech. So I think obviously there's
much more than as you've found out, there's much more than just the title
involved. There's got to be moneyinvolved somewhere. Maybe, yeah, there,
I'm sure there is for some people. You know, we see it
with Joe Biden clearly in the byFamily and everything that's coming out on that.
I'm sure there is money and corruption. We've got the Mark Zuckerbucks from
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twenty twenty and all people. Peoplemade a lot of money. But it's
really funny and probably the most surprisingaspect is I think a lot of these
people are doing it just to likebe in the cool kids club, Like
they just want to like literally,they get nothing out of it other than
its title. As see, theyget to sit at the cool kids table,
and that's why they're doing it.It there like my theory, my
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theory, Christina or is different.My theory is it starts at the county
level. You know, whether it'sa school or whatever. And then they're
you know, a state delegate,let's say, or some remember whatever,
and then they move up the ladder, you know, mayor. Like you
take Tim Kane, he was hewas a mayor and then he was a
governor and now he's in the Senatefor life. Mark Warner private sector Senate
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for life. See, the jobis to get into the House of Representatives
and then you figure out a slotfor the Senate and then you got a
lifetime a grift from the bottom up. Yeah, but like look at Joe
Biden. Joe Biden went straight tothe Senate. I mean I think marked
at the county and then he wasa senator for forty years or whatever.
It was. Well, that wasthe old fix was in. That was
back in the day when you couldreally do worse now, I mean back
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in the day they could only cheatby a few percentage points because people were
paying you know, and then wekind of got lulled into this sleep where
nobody's been paying attention for a fewdecades. But but yeah, you're right,
I mean that is how it works, is you know, promises of
oh, well you get to begovernor, you know, and we can
break this. Just be a goodsecretary of state. If you're a good
county commissioner, then you'll get tobe secretary of state. Run the election,
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and then we'll make you governor.And honestly, I think that's what
happened with Katie Hobbs and Arizona.She was she was the secretary of state
and she was a state senator beforethat, and then they were like,
hey, if you run a shadyelection, that just looks like you're completely
incompetent. Although I do think sheis completely incompetent. But if you just
run an election that is bad,we'll make your governor. And that's what
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they did. Yeah, it's asad situation. Yeah, yeah, but
it can be fixed. It canabsolutely be We just need more people involved.
Alrighty, that's great. Anything elsemight you want to say? Can
it be fixed? Christina? Withthe clear bias of the judiciary, the
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it seems to me anyway that theabsolute majority of lawyers in this country want
no part of protecting the republic.They want to protect the democratic charity and
the law schools and all universities.Really yeah, well that's why they're suing.
Any lawyers are filing Barking points againsany conservative lawyers that actually represent these
people, because they want to makesure that when they come for us,
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we don't have anybody to defend us. Yes, that's what they're trying to
do. That, that's the gamethey're playing. That's the war they've waged.
Our responses stand strong, fight thegood fight, and I think we'll
prevail. And yeah, it isscary, and it is hard to find
lawyers that want to stand up tothis, even if they believe in our
cause, and even if they believein what we're doing, they don't want
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to risk their livelihood or their freedom, you know, God forbid they get
slapped with an indictment, you know. So, yeah, she seems the
same kind of fear among lawyers,both in the election question and also in
the COVID question and the oh yeah, of course lawyers don't want to take
that man either. Yeah, becausebecause it's scary, they'll come for you
if you do. Yeah, wecan still do it. There's enough courageous
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lawyers. I'm honored and grateful toknow enough courageous lawyers that we have.
We can do it. But honestly, I don't even think it requires there
other than defending Donald Trump. Idon't think it necessarily requires a lot of
lawyers at this point. What weneed the most of is people. We
just need people who are willing tohold their county commissioners accountable. Get involved
in one of these groups again withCause of America dot org. Getting involved
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in a group in your area thatFollier requests your county commissioners and calls your
county commissioners and your county recorders.And the more pressure we can put on
county officials to let them know we'rewatching and we're going to follow everything you
do, do not break the law. That's what we need right now.
Well, that's great having spoken withyou. Now we could use a few
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more retired marine female lawyers too.You are a tenacious woman and it's very
very impressive. Well, thank you. I appreciate that. Christina, Thank
you very much for being on.Thank you so much. I appreciate your
time. Thank good luck to you. Thank you