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How many times have we heard let'shave one minute of silence for the genocide
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is a real nice guy. Everybodyliked the show. In fact, we
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wow, this guy really told usa lot. So Joe, welcome back
for the education course and tell uswhat's happening, what's new and what people
should know. Hey, thanks Mikefor having me back. I really enjoyed
the first time. I'm sure I'mgoing to enjoy this time as well.
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What's really going on is we havethe government doing where governments do and government
things, which is squeeze out themiddle class, raise cost of living,
make the American dream an American nightmare, Increase taxation, increase art debtation.
You know, the market's melting up, has been melting up for a while.
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We see bitcoin almost hitting new piesagain. It's basically the ultra wealthy
companies like black Rock, Pimco,State Street, Global, Vanguard that are
just manipulating things to the point whereit makes it look like on paper,
oh wow, our economy is doingwonderful. And in reality, with all
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these legal immigrants crossing the border,we have all these children that can't afford
their student loans, raising their ratesagain. We have just a lot of
fun stuff that people rather ignore thantry to look at. And I can
see why. But yeah, Imean, it's pretty bad out there,
and you really have to find away to diversify your taxation, your liquidity,
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your market exposure. I think there'sgonna be a huge correction coming.
I think it's going to be afterthey let Trump in the White House,
and then they're going to crash themarket and show the little ticker on the
box of it's the death. It'sgoing to be percentage of the stock market
that's down when Trump's president. SoI think it's all by design, and
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you have to do things to protestyour family and yourself. I think they've
been it's been by design now,Joe, looking in retrospect since the time
of COVID, you know all that, and you know, you know better
than we do, all that moneythat went out there. You know,
banks were floundering again. They doit every so often, and then they
get bailed out. So you know, we had the COVID and all the
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banks got bailed out. They gaveyou fourteen hundred cheese check, right,
and then they let you borrow somemoney and in some cases you were allowed
to write it off the PPP loans. And then for the guys who had
the EIDL loans at thirty year loansright three percent interest, they're still paying
them while we're supporting foreign governments,you know, wars, you know what
I'm saying. So people really haveto wake up and look at you know,
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how they get the edge, becauselike you say, with inflation,
right, and if you have abank account, you don't make any interest,
let's say, and if you don'tproperly invested, you're losing no matter
where you are, in what position. But do you have any idea,
Joe, what the number was whenthe banks will bailed out with the COVID.
What was that qual to you?The Cares Act? It was the
Cares Act, right, Yeah,it's similar to the OA. They create
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all these these catastrophes, like theyflew the planes into the towers in New
York or not. I don't live. They create all these type of oh
my god, we you know,fear, fear, fear if you watch
you know the real news, whichI do not. But it's just all
fear monitoring. So fear is control. Manipulation is control. On education is
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control. Debt is slavery. Taxationis slavery. Interest rates is slavery.
And it's all to the United Statesof America corporation. Do you ever wonder
why the Federal Reserve can print trillionsand trillions and trillions of dollars that that
notes it's because it's on your futurelabor. That isn't the definition of slavery
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that they're putting right in front ofyour face, that they are going to
print money for bonds on your futurelabor to pay off that debt in the
future. It's absolutely, it's absolutelyslavery. Because when was it back?
Uh, I want to say,during Reagan. You know, we will
moving money to Central America. Youknow, the story was we had to
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kill communism, so we were goingto create jobs with the T shirt factories
in Nicaragua and Salvador, Guatemala,Honduras. You know, we needed we
needed them to get off that communistkick, you know what I mean.
And then what did we do afterwe're there just a little bit, a
little bit, Joe, just alittle bit, not too long, you
know, if China was opening up, George Bush and Henry kischen got you
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know, George Bush Senior was ambassador, and that was in the pipeline,
right we we didn't know that.It was a blind shot. And then
Henry Kischener was there and he's setup shop and he came back and he
said, well, you know it'stime to use the communists. Let's move
American corporations over there. So littleby little, you know, it was
his shirt factory, and then itwas a jacket, you know. Then
it was the fly swatters, youknow, the garden host for Dolla trees
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and all that. And then whathappened the American companies who are on the
stock markets, right, the Americancompanies, the big companies started moving there.
They oh, yeah, we getcheap labor, but you know what,
you're going to get a good priceon the phone. You're going to
get a good price on this.You're going to And all the major companies,
all the stock market companies, movedthere and left these people with no
jobs. The unions were closed down. The people that had solid job you
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know, the old jobs like yourfather and your grandfather had, you know
where they worked twenty five thirty years, got to go watch you know what
I mean, got a little bitof penchion on top of the Social Security
and maybe bought a little hut downin Florida. You know, this was
all by design. If we goback, we could see this all by
design. And Joe, I knowyou're a smart guy, just by the
way you talk all the time.We can go all the way back to
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the Civil War. We don't havethe time on this show Mike, what
do you have to say? Excuseme? I just think that it's a
remarkable fact really that so many peopledon't know that they're melting up. I
had not heard it described like thatbefore. But that's exactly when you look
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at it. That's exactly what's goingon, isn't it. Well, it's
what they do to the gold andsilver market. When you take a look
at why golden and silver, Imean silver should be twelve hundred dollars an
ounce, it's twenty six bucks.And the reason for that is gold and
silver is in every type of technologytechnology product from smart cars to electric vehicles,
to cell phones to the computers we'reon right now. And they manipulate
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and make all their money through intangibleassets like Apple stock, Tesla stock,
Google stock, AT and T Verizon, and they manipulate those stocks and they
pull out billions and billions and billionsof dollars. And so what they're doing
to keep the price of gold andsilver down is they by put every single
day, which is a bet againstSo they keep buying these puts billions and
billions of dollars collectively through all ofthem, and that keeps the price down.
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Well, how is the market meltingup? Well, it's happening right
now, similar to what we sawin the meme stock with game Stock and
AMC in the last week, whichI was actually quoted by The Daily Caller
and Ben Shapiro's label. It's verysimple. You know, they keep betting,
They keep betting, they keep betting. We're not strong enough, we're
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not united. They keep dividing usthrough race, gender, religion, monetarily,
you know, sociology, religion,sports teams. It's it's all about
division, feminism. So because wedon't band together, they control everything.
So what they're doing now at meltingup is they're buying puts, which means
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they're betting on the markets. Butthat's not going to be forever. Those
are short term. They have somethat are are longer, but I'm sure
they're longer. Positions are are arenot you know, gonna be there,
you know. And like I said, I think they're gonna instill Trump because
I don't think we have a fairelection here. They can rig elections in
other countries, why can't they doit here? And I think they're gonna
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put in Trump. Everyone's gonna rejoice, all the MAGA people, the movement,
the populace, which used to bea good term and now again anything
good that you know, the oppositiondoes they find the nineteen Joe or Orwellian
uh you know, uh control.And so what they're gonna do is,
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is there all those puts that thesemajor hedge funds have. I mean,
you can't fathom how much twenty trilliondollars is for a company. If you
where, it's unfathomable. The amountof one hundred dollars bills would fill up
every single sports stadium in the entirecountry from from from from Florida ceiling.
And that still wouldn't even cover thatmuch. So if you understand it,
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they're gonna pull the rug. Icall it the rug pull. They do
the same thing with pump and dumpand crypto. It's it's they all,
they all get together. They allsay, Okay, it's Thursday. At
seven o'clock, we're all buying.Friday at three o'clock we're all selling,
and all do that at the sametime. It moves so fast you think
all only went down a point ortwo or four points. It's not a
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big deal, but four points ona billion dollars is like forty million dollars.
They just pulled out of the marketon one asset. So if you
if you really understood how how thesystem works, it's really great. So
well, my client's been doing fortwenty one years. It's just trying to
find ways to you know, jointhem. Right, Remember the Pelosi guppy
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strategy whatever whatever Pelosi did, youfollow her like a guppy under a shark,
and you would make a boatload ofmoney. I mean that year,
I mean about forty eight percent onmy portfolio just following what Pelosi stops did.
So you have to do what thewealthy doing. The wealthy are doing
because they're using IRS code seven andzero two, very very simple. It's
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that code that Hillary Clinton and DonaldTrump were talking about when they were both
on stage. When Hillary goes toTrump, hey, you don't pay any
taxes, and Trump says, well, I just use the same IRIS code
your donors use. And if ifyour donors weren't using them, you'd have
changed that loophole decades ago, butyou chose to keep it open. That's
what I've been specialized in the lastcouple of decades is using Section seven seven
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seven zero two, which allows clientsto have a tax free, liquid,
soup proof, divorce proof. Theradar return for the last twenty years have
been fifteen percent tax free using optioncontracts back by one hundred and seventy eight
year old triple A rated mutual company. You know you can lean it,
you can pull the money out andstill earn interest on your money. It
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has all types of protection for legacyplanning, and that's what the wealthy people
do, like the Rocketfeller strategy.So has life insurance, disability, long
term care. But when you takea look at it, when you compare
that to the government sponsor monopoly retirementaccount the four okay, do you realize
that with all the fees and payingtheir four to one k, over half
of your account goes to Wall StreetBecause if you want percent compounding over thirty
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years from that to sixty something percentof your money goes to fees. And
then when you do pull the moneyout, government, between federal tax,
state tax, by the Medicare,unemployment, social Security tax takes a fifty
five to sixty percent on your taxbracket, so you're literally getting like less
than twenty percent of your dollar thatgoes in there, which you're trading your
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time and you're a god giving giftsand talent for a currency which is then
being manipulated and stolen by Wall Streetand by the federal and state governments.
Take us two guys, we're youknow, we come from the sixties.
Let's say we started working with kids, right, so, you know,
we had the early Social Security dealand it was oh, yeah, by
tilling you sixty two, you retire, blah blah blah blah blah. If
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you took just what we put inand took took twenty thirty percent of what
we put in and did what you'redoing, okay, and not even you
know, put it into Social Security, we wouldn't even need Social Securities pennies
and all. If yeah, wegave we gave real money, real dollars
at that time, the dollars worthwhat seventy five cents, let's say,
okay, and now we're getting backwhat nickel and the dollar Joe something like
that. Yeah, I mean thesense dollar was creative has been devalued ninety
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nine percent. Oh, we havea great federal reserve. These guys know
math. Do they have calculators overthere? Mics? Yeah, USh,
it's amazing apication. I mean,I understand what Joe's saying. I Now,
now when they do these options,Joe, are they doing these options
at a max of what, let'ssay ninety days, three months, two
months? How do they do them? Yeah? So when they when these
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major hedge funds are buying these optioncontracts, you know, I actually offer
my clients option contracts because, likeI said, if you can't beat them,
join them. And nobody actually ownsstock you want a speculative position.
All of those pretty gold leaf stopcertificates you remember seeing back in the day,
all those are sitting in a warehouseowned by one company. So what
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what what they're doing is they're they'rethey're manipulating the market very simply. If
I bet that, let's say Teslais going to go up, and so
to all of my billionaire buddies,well how many billionaires are there? Not
too many? So we all gettogether, we all buy one hundred millions,
you know, fifty million. Imean you look at some of these
you know, values of these ofthese companies. They're they're they're in the
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tens of billions. So they allget together, they dump in fifty million,
one hundred million. Well it's onehundred million into a billion, that's
ten percent. They feel easy theycan move a stop from either selling one
hundred million or buying one hundred millionof a said asset class. So they
buy these option contracts. And ifyou ever look at derivatives, there's something
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like four hundred trillion dollars in derivativesin this country. Oh, Joe,
Joe, just one second. Iwrote that down to speak to you today.
I wanted to I wanted the peopleto know that is, finish this
conversation, what you're saying, andthen the goog the go to, the
ridives go ahead. Yeah. Sowhat people don't really understand is that,
you know, the derivatives are whenone bank lends another bank money, and
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then that bank lends another bank's collateralagainst that money, and then that that
bank takes that collateral and loans anotherloan now on the same collateral and super
super ponzi. It's a huge justlike they do fractional lending. The banks
where they take in they taken onehundred dollars, they loan out ninety.
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When that person receives that ninety dollars, where does he put his money in
the banks and they take that ninetythey loan now eighty one because it'll keep
loaning out ninety percent. And thenthey get that other one hundred dollars,
the eighty one dollars or does heput it in the ost seventy two and
loot three and literally that one hundreddollars bill within eight or nine transactions turned
into like nine thousand dollars of fakemoney that doesn't exist. And then they
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tell you they want to give youone percent on your saving basis points might
come on. That's that's that's bigmoney. So yeah, this derivative things.
I heard it a couple of weeksago and you said, what four
hundred trillion dollars Joe, Oh,it's fascinating. Yeah, jj P.
Morgan's got forty trillion chases another thirtyeight trillion. Bank of America is fifty
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trillion. And what it is,it's a it's a bet against the collateral.
So I don't want to confuse theheck out of your listeners, because
this is for like the point,Oh, we got smart people, We
got smart even the young people aresmart. They were like, hey,
we like that guy, go ahead, continue. So I mean it really
it really comes down to when theykeep leveraging and loaning and leaning and leveraging,
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loaning and leaning. And if theylose the bet that loses, which
very few bets lose because it's allinsider. It's all, hey, hey
Bob, hey Carl, Hey Sam, hey Mike, we're all going to
do this bet you win. It'slike fixing an NBA game. Right,
if the reps are in on it, what's the probability of you winning?
Right? So it's a lot higherthan ninety five percent. So they make
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these very done deals. You know, how many times in history can we
say that stocks have been won bythe people, Right, And then they
give them silly names like meme stock. Well, why do they name it?
That is that there's no meme aboutgame stop or AMC. But they
put these funny names so that thepublic doesn't really catch on to what's going
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on. Right, And so whenthese derivatives, all these bets are in,
it's called naked. There's actually nakedcalls where you don't even need the
you don't even need the stocks.Becaulse usually would a call, you know,
or a put. Somebody is eitherborrowing the shares from somebody at a
at a price today and hoping itgoes up in the future, or they're
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guaranteeing themselves a promise to buy thoseshares at a future date. So there
has to be some sort of collateralto say, hey, I have the
money. If Tesla's one hundred dollarsa share, I bet it's going to
be one twenty. I'm buying onehundred share tranch. I need ten thousand
dollars one hundred dollars times one hundredshares. So they usually have to collaterals,
you know, the ten thousand dollarsto make that trade, and then
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if it fails, they make thepremium, they make the cost of the
contract that that person, let's saymakes four percent on his money in ninety
days because he's very bearish on onon Tesla for example. So now they've
gotten so I'm not evenna say complexbecause it's really just stupid, but they've
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gotten really complex to the sense wherethey are now doing naked calls, meaning
they're offering these hundred shares of onehundred dollars to share each as an example,
with no collatter naked so and thebanks are like, oh, you
own some real estate. He's like, oh, yeah, I own a
twenty million dollar property, all right, we'll just use that to lean it,
so they're not even coming up withliquidity to lean it. So if
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things go wrong, then that person'sgoing to have to sell that real estate.
But what people don't understand is everythingis connected. The stock market is
correlated to the job market, whichis into the real estate market, which
is correlated to the crypto market.Everything moves in the same direction. So
if if for whatever reason, theythey are off on this, you know,
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insider trading, and they're wrong,which they're hardly adverb wrong adverb,
but if they were, that wouldcollapse the entire economy because think about it
like this. Let's say the thethe the stock doesn't work out, meaning
they had to call and it wentdown, Well, then that's going to
call their their debt to the bank. The bank's going to say, okay,
I had your your your your buildingcollateralized. So now that persons gonna
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have to sell the building. Well, if people are selling stocks, they're
selling building, what's going to happento the value of it? Generally everywhere
in the country, it's only goingto go down. More people are selling
than buying, the price goes downsupply and demand that more people are buying
than selling, the price goes up. Like the real estate market. Joe,
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what do you think about the realestate market? What do you think
about the state market going down?I think that Blackrock has inflated the market
so bad that they are going becausethey're buying up single family homes. It
should be against the law in myopinion. And they didn't even touch commercial.
Do you realize that I'm still anopen, decent you know, way
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to go. I actually owned abunch of commercial deals. The residential is
not even competitive to the average investoranymore. Because also that were signing to
three hundred Blackrock, so it willbe four hundred cash m it's not going
to take that instead of a threehundred, have to go through credit scores
and a mortgage and uh, youknow, closing, here's here's here's cash,
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give me keys. So when whenyou understand what they did essentially is
it's all boils down to you aregoing to own nothing and you are going
to be happy. Here's your dailyserving of crickets, here's your call of
duty and your Netflix account. Havefun playing video games in your little pod.
Joeys, damn smart Mike, doyou hear hanging on Mi? Joe?
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Do you hear what he's saying?Yeah? To me? How many
times have we spoke about Netflix,Netflix, cable, Netflix, sports?
How many times have we That's howthey get him doped up? Joe.
It's a psion, you know,It's distraction and the vision. Yeah,
very simple if you were, ifyou were to put yourself in their demonic
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emil minds and all they care abouttheir self centered, right, They're narcissists,
sociopaths. What do they care about? Right? I mean, there's
tons of documentaries on criminals that aresociopaths, and what was always their outcome?
I didn't care if I killed somebody, rape somebody, stole something,
as long as I got something outof it. I have know what conscious,
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I have, no what remorse.I do what I want to get
what I want, and I don'tcare about you. That's what of God.
God is all about help out.Religious, you know, and I'm
not even saying super religious. I'mmore spiritual, but when when you understand
we're living in a spiritual realm,and if there's good angels, there has
to be bad demons. And unfortunatelythey always say what the good guy finishes
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first, No new guy finishes last. Well, Joe, you know,
you know what they psyched us with. You know what they psyched us with,
and they put in our soup.They gave us to just war,
remember the Just War with what's thename George Bush? And this is a
just war. And we went toIraq. There was no weapons of mass
destruction. It's proven that he getson a YouTube and tells the lady on
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CNN, well, you know,she said, well you never found them,
right, Well, you know it'sokay, like as if well maybe
they were at seven eleven in yourneighborhood. I don't know where they are,
but anyway, we destroyed Iraq,right, We spent four trillion dollars.
You know, we went to Afghanistan. You know, we protected you
know, we were fighting the molasorwhoever. But nobody wanted to say they
will grow in opium, you know, I mean, don't even mention that.
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Right, and now we have thenew wars. These are good wars.
As it says, there's reel,we must back there Israel. Now.
I don't know if you got tocall at your house the guardian angel
came or whatever and said you don'tsupport Israel because it's God's No. People
don't even read the Bible. Landthe land is the land. Israel now
in the modern age, is actuallythe church and the Church is the people.
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We can go through that program,but people are so stupefied. And
now the country's totally divided. AndJoe, you live up in New England.
All the good schools are right,and for years they put billions of
dollars. These people put billions ofbillions of dollars of endowments when they had
no problem, when they were teachinghate America, Socialism, Marxism, right,
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all this crap, billions and billionsof dollars. And these are blue
blood families and families that have thechosen names or whatever. But anyway,
they put billions of dollars. Theminute that these kids walk up and say,
wait a minute, I think there'sa genocide going on here. Oh
boy, did they get crazy.Had to pull the money out. No,
no, no, no, no, we fed you enough. That's
it. We're going to take itout. And now if you protest,
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they do a word salad Joe,it at the salad bar. It goes
from supporting we're against genocide to nowyou're pro Hamas see the way they play
that a little nineteen eighty four trickthere, Oh genocide. Oh no,
you're pro this. See. Sonow, now they got the country all
up, and it had to happenbecause this is an election year, you
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know what I mean, and whynot have some flip flop going on.
I think they're going to put Joe. I think you're right. I think
they're going to let Trump win becausethen anything that goes down in that cycle
they could. In fact, theother day they said on the news,
remember when Trump left, Remember hesaid the stock market will never be this
high. It's higher than when Trumpis in. So they take it the
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credit for that, and then they'lltake the credit for when it you know,
let him take the credit when itgoes down. Joe, we got
the last five minutes. Go forit, baby, Yeah, I mean,
at the end of the day,why I'm trying to grow, you
know, at my own radio showthat's going to be live. Oh yeah,
tell us t us what it is, tell us what it is.
We put it on the notes.Go ahead. Yeah, it's going to
be every Tuesday, seven o'clock easternon Brushwood Media. Which is going to
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Apple owns. I'll be live andthen I'll be doing a webinar every Thursday
at seven eastern PM about how tosave millions of dollars in taxes, how
to make double digital returns, howyou can't lose, how to protect your
money from the federal government, howto protect your money from lawsuits and creditors.
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You know, basically, how tobuild a Rockefeller trust using different product
strategies, iris codes, which I'vebeen doing for two decades. I have
two thousand clients, billions of dollarsandec How many people love for you,
Joe? How many people work foryou? I got about twenty agents across
the country. I'm wearing about threeto five a week right now because I've
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been focusing heavily. I'm growing thisbusiness. I've been a one man show
for twenty years, and for thelast twelve months I've been just growing and
growing and reinvest and reinvesting. Youknow, will you come back to visit
us, Joe? Once you getyour show, You're still going to come
back, right absolutely. I mean, at the end of the day,
the show is going to be fun, because it's going to be talking about,
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you know, slavery and the governmentand taxing and debt and strategies and
insurance and investments and trust and willsand all the things that people know nothing
about. And half of the peopleget swindled into high commission, high feed
crap strategies. And so you haveto make sure you're with somebody like me
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who's five star rated on Google,a plus rated on a Better Business Bureau,
on the cover of the top fortyadvisors in the country, and are
forty years old. Can you getwhen you send us that picture? Joe?
Can you send us that picture ofthe magazine? Do you have a
good shot? Absolutely? Yeah,I'll pull it up. I'll put it
up on the show. Thank you. I've also written three books, Being
your Own Bank, There's a Betterway than a four to oh one K
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and long term Care without long termPain. I'm willing to send every one
of your listeners for free all threeof my books, my articles. I'm
a featured International Business Excellent. Thankyou, Thank you, Insider, Market
Insider. I have two articles onForbes on my strategy when written by a
certified financial planner, When written bya certified public accountant. All your listeners
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have to do is go to Joeor write an email directly to Joe Joe
at iron like the Metal Hawk,like the Bird Financial dot com. That's
Joe at iron Hawk Financial dot com. And just write free books. You
know, I heard JN Two Mikespodcast. I'm interested in your literature.
Like I said, all my booksare on Amazon, but I will give
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them to you absolutely for free.That is great. You know, we
have we have another gentleman that doesthat. He's a preacher guy, minister
kind of guy. But I thinkhe's got fifty nine years in the ministry
and he just gave out almost fiftybibles, Joe and other books free,
no charge shipping everything, which Ithink is great that you guys do this,
and I appreciate that to our listenersin America. You know, we
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can't do it around the globe,guys. It's only for America. But
I think that's so important that youguys are willing to do that and make
that investment and help somebody because evenif they don't play with you, at
least they'll learn a little bit.Maybe they'll jump in and play. You
know, we have another guy whodoes a credit counseling. He's on our
website and it's a free service,you know, just go in there.
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They do the budget for you andall that and if you're upside down whatever.
So you know, we like todo these public service deals and we
really appreciate you. Coming on,we got to jump off, Joe to
get ready for the next one.I'm sorry to cut you short today.
Be sure, why don't you visitus in like three or four weeks or
something like that. How's that soundsgood to me? I definitely love you
guys a little bit. You're doingfor our country and trying to educate the
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masses about the truth and not thebster being lied to by the mainstream media
every day of their life. Allright, keep in touch, Joe.
Thank you so much. We appreciateit. Have a good day and good
luck on the new show. Thankyou, thank you. Mind God,
bless God, bless thank you.