All Episodes

May 23, 2024 43 mins
Today, The Two Mikes spoke with Melissa Witte (@villagecrazylady) who studies and writes about campaign financing in the United States. 



Ms. Witte said that Political Action Committees (PACs) are an amazingly effective means of building personal fortunes. How so? Well, when a politician starts a PAC he tends to raise more money than he needs and, under the legislation which legalized PACs, the politician keeps the money that was raised but not spent. 



As an example, Ms. Witte said that in his 2022 re-election campaign North Carolina Senator Tim Scott raised $52 million for his campaign and spent $38 million of that total. His Democratic rival raised $200 million and spent %150 million in the campaign. Under the pertinent legislation, neither Senator Scott nor his rival need have any qualms about keeping their excess campaign funds. 



Ms. Witte argued that at least 80-percent of the Congress and Senate are building fortunes via this excess campaign funding. Ms. Witte explained much more about what was found in her studies and it is riveting to listen to her speak. 

We hope she will come back and speak to us after the 2024 national election.


Dr Michael Scheuer & Colonel Mike co-host Two Mikes. This show discusses current events from a Pro-America, Constitutional perspective. These two have guest hosted radio shows for 6 years and are excited to join with like minded people on Freedom First Network. Dr. Michael Scheuer is a former CIA analyst who ran the Osama bin Laden tracking unit, as well as the author of many books. Colonel Mike is also a former liaison & contractor for many years in South East Asia. He's also an advisor and businessman with many contacts around the globe.

Subscribe to Freedom First Network on Rumble to watch all of our shows LIVE: https://freedomfirst.tv

Elevate your meals with Freedom First Beef… even if you find yourself in the middle of the apocalypse! Use code TWOMIKES for 15% off and enjoy high-quality beef whenever you crave it – today or tomorrow! https://freedomfirstbeef.com

Be ready for anything life throws your way with The Wellness Company's Medical Emergency Kit. Order today using code TWOMIKES for a 10% discount at https://twc.health/ffn.

Protect your financial future with precious metals! Schedule your consultation with Our Gold Guy today and take control of your financial destiny! https://ourgoldguy.com

Unleash the spirit of liberty in every cup with Freedom First Coffee's Founders Blend. Order now using code TWOMIKES and savor the unparalleled taste of freedom in every patriotic sip. https://freedomfirstcoffee.com
Mark as Played
Transcript

Episode Transcript

Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
(01:34):
Stops because the pasta pata the bestby four three two one. Hey,

(02:04):
welcome back, You're wrong with twoMikes, Doctor Michael Showy and Colonel Mike.
Before we get to today's guest,which you're going to be very happy
to hear from, don't forget togo to two Mikes dot us. Say
hello to the affiliates and sponsors.Very important, and by the time the
show goes up you'll hear You'll seeMichael's new blog. You know, his
blog is a killer, as youknow, so it's non hyphen intervention numeral

(02:27):
two dot com. We'll put itup on the blog later on today because
I'm right after this. I'm goingto eat something after this show, all
right, So let's say hello tomel and she's going to tell us a
little bit about herself. Welcome totwo Mike's mail. Thank you so much
for having me. I am.I'm just a regular middle class mom from

(02:50):
Faybel, North Carolina. I kindof got a little bit of a following
on X because I cover campaign financeand how that impacts how campaign finance,
how our politicians actually use the money. Most people aren't really familiar with all
of the moroad of ways that theyare allowed to use this money under the

(03:12):
auspices of funding their campaigns. AndI'm conservative. I'm registered Republican, lifelong
Conservative, and so I typically actuallyjust focus on Conservatives because our party is
so awful that we it's why we'reso so inept, can't do anything because

(03:32):
all of our politicians are corrupt,bought and paid for, and we'll go
along with anything that Democrats say.So there's really no hope in you know,
everybody always is boy, you can'tvote your way out of this.
But it's true, even if wevoted in all Republicans, we would see
very little actually change because they're allbought and paid for by the same people.

(03:55):
So that's pretty much corporate money.And you know, once they get
they always tell you once they getin there, what they're going to do,
and what they're going to do isjust try to stay in there for
life. Because we were Mike andI we lived in the Beltleigh and we
experienced the hill and we know howit works. And we have right now,

(04:16):
Melissa, right now in Prince George'sCounty, Maryland, we have a
black lady who is a county cheerwoman, which would be like a mayor kind
of thing, you know. Andshe says, she's well ready to take
the seat and take the Senate becausewe have a guy that was there sixty
years in public service. It's calledpublic services if you translated, its self

(04:40):
service, and he served himself wellfor sixty years. And he's stepping down
because his office, if you remember, is where they had the sexual encounters.
Then caught it, right, soin disgrace he gets down, but
he was old enough to do it, and he had no idea. I'm
sure he had no idea this wasgoing on, right. And then so

(05:00):
Angela is going to run against DavidTron who's a liberal Total Wine. You've
heard of Total Wine. He ownsTotal Wine. And then who jumps in
the race last minute after David dumpsmillions tens of millions of dollars is Larry
Hogan, who's nothing but a rhino. Right, So it's a three way
race, and she says, weneed people in the Senate. Listen to

(05:23):
this one who look more like us. Now that's not a racist remark because
she's a black one, but shechecks the box. She got black and
she's a female right now, ifyou go look at her County. It's
Chicago light. You know, gangbangers, carjackers, you know, shoot
them up. And every day youcould go look at Prince George. It's
it's on ex Prince George's county gotthere, they got their own little page

(05:46):
there. It's just craziness with crime. But she's she's qualified to go in
the Senate. Yeah, because there'sa lot of criminals up there. You
know she has right in. Butyou know that's never about it. You
bet Larry Hogan in there, andI mean there's twenty percent of the of
the things that he'll vote. Maybehe might be a swing vote on but

(06:15):
no doubt he will pride himself onbeing another bipartisan Republicans, reach across the
reach across the l And the bestpart is she's running her campaign as Larry
Hogan is the best friend the Trump. But if you look it up,
Larry Hogan and Trump will like Gasolinamatches, right, they hate each other.
I know that the other guy,that David tron Trone. Yeah,

(06:36):
he's funny. I kind of feelsorry for him. I come across him
all the time. He's been runningto be in Congress for years and he
drops so much money and to myknowledge, I don't think he's ever actually
been elected, but he elected,he got he got elected to he got

(06:57):
elected as a congressman for the districtwhich is Western Maryland. Now, let
me just give you an idea.Maryland is similar to like Tennessee. It's
divided in three. You have theeast of Central in the West Maryland.
East is pretty much you know,you could say red because it's all the
farmland and the beaches and stuff,and the beach areas. That's what You're

(07:17):
gonna have some libs there. Andthen the central part is just like a
disaster, you know, it's it'scomic CosIng blue, right. And then
you have Western Maryland, which islike I would say, the last outpost.
No, Mike, you got GallttCounty. You got Alleghany County,
which is really, you know,was red for years. They had a

(07:39):
congressman was there for many years.I forgot his name. He had a
mustache. He was there for thirtyyears. And then you have Washington County
now Washington County, mel is that'sa toss up. You know, it's
it's like Baltimore white, you know, and it's very blue, you know,
very hard to get a Republican towin anything. Even the you know,

(08:01):
trash can guy can't be a Republican. Maybe the dogcatcher, I don't
know, but that's where Throng represents. He represents Western Maryland. Now on
the Democratic side, let me seemel on the screen, say hi,
Meli, Oh, there you go. On the Democratic side, we just
had a new one run jump inand she's something to do with the cabinet

(08:24):
of Biden. And she's a fairblonde lady from a nice upper middle class
I would say, much much upperPotomac Maryland. Who's that's you know what
that is? She's going to jumpinto the race now and take on the
Republicans because she cares about childcare,she cares about all the things the government

(08:48):
will give you free. And shedoesn't fit any Western Maryland period. If
anybody, David Trone is going totake it down on Larry Hogan, you
know. Yeah, and there youyou have a problem down there, you
have You know, you guys arepretty split. I think, you know,
with the Blue and the Red,don't you don't? So we are
well, you know, we've gottwo Republican senators in North Carolina, Tom

(09:11):
Tillis, Ted budd We've we havea Republican controlled House and Senate at the
state level, but we have aDemocrat governor, even though now we actually
have a veto proof majority. Thanks. Yeah, And I've done it,

(09:33):
and they've done an okay job.You know. Obviously here lately they've really
taken up the cause of pushing againstanti BDS, anti you know, quote
unquote hate speech. So that's beensuper frustrating because obviously, I mean,
Republicans just can't get enough of thatcrap, and it's been a central focus.

(09:58):
But otherwise, I think done anokay job, and I think I
think trub will take it North Carolina, the organization at the state level is
pretty good, with all the statepart all the county parties. I'm involved
with my local gop e Lisa havebeen my parents. They're down at the
coast and they are very involved,and so I think I think it'll actually

(10:22):
be okay. I think he tookit by three points or no, excuse
me, two points in twenty twenty. So is your state divided in any
way, like, you know,the western part of the state East,
No, it's pretty much well,well, so you've got obviously like western
Ashville is crazy liberal, yes,and then you've got the pockets in the
cities, and so you've got theResearch Triangle area, you got Durham,

(10:48):
Raleigh, Chapel Hill area, andthen Charlotte. But then pretty much everything
else is bright red. Actually,the county I live in, county is
blue, but it's it's it's likea forty five fifty five split. So
I mean, obviously a ten pointswing, it's it's still a pretty big
swing for Democrats. But the thehouse district I live in House dictric uh

(11:15):
Congressional District nine, So Richard Hudson, who is totally worthless, is my
rep. You know, it's justkind of but yeah, it's not like
it's not like a like a cleansplit like that. You've just got these
pockets, right right. Yeah.You know, Ashville's beautiful city. It's
just like every other city like SantaFe and stuff. You get these beautiful
cities and then they get run ovalby the blue you know when all the

(11:39):
retarks come in. It's nuts.You haven't you haven't been to Ashville lately,
have you? No? I haven't. It is it's kind of sad,
It's it's just it's, uh,you know, tons of homeless,
lots of drug use. It's youknow, it's it's frustrating, obviously,
and that was such a gorgeous place. The last thing I saw on that

(12:01):
was some crazy, mentally retarded guyshot somebody's dog at a park. Yeah,
and I said, how crazy isthat? Right? Yeah, My
daughter goes to a summer camp inBrevard, which is like right outside of
Asheville, every year, and sowe go there every year, and so
we see it and it just,uh, you know, I mean,

(12:24):
it's I feel sorry for I mean, it's good people. It's just I
don't I don't know. They've justbeen brainwashed into thinking that any kind of
discipline or any kind of punishment isbad, and so it's it's really bizarre
to watch them think that, youknow, they're being the compassionate ones by

(12:45):
allowing these people to be drug addictedzombies just laying on the streets, which
you know, in my mind,there's absolutely nothing compassionate about that. It
is. It is awful, andwell, we got to give we got
to give billions away. Now wehave to give billions away to different countries,

(13:05):
countries that are at war and conflict, because that's what they want,
you know, somehow we have tosupport the country because we're no longer a
service We're over a longer a serviceeconomy, right, Mike, what do
we call ourselves now? We area donating economy. Donating economy. Yes,
so anybody who doesn't deserve it,we give it. Yeah, no

(13:28):
kidding, right. Oh, totell you, mister sure that your book
Marching Towards Hell was the first bookthat opened my eyes to America's disastrous policies
in the I appreciate it. Yeah, I can still remember. I was

(13:52):
like twenty three years old watching youwith I believe it was John Roberts sparring
with him and about the nine toeleven hijackers, and I was like,
you said, you know what,he called them cowards and you said,
they're not They weren't cowards, andyou need to understand that these people are

(14:13):
not afraid, and he John Robertswas so upset, but I was,
I don't know, it's just kindof like I was like, well,
he's right, they weren't. Youknow what they did, that's that's not
cowardly. And so I've ordered yourbook and that was the first one that
ever because I grew up in ayou know, hardcore Christian, right wing
dispensationalist household, and you support Israeland you always back you know, America

(14:43):
is the good guy, and allof our interventions and escapades overseas are for
the good. Yeah, just war? What do they call it? Just
cause wars? Right, Mike,Yeah, it's you're very kind man.
You shouldn't let that get around thatyou've read my book. I good for
a trick friends or keeping friends,I can tell you, Oh, I
assure you, I do not care. I go to battle every We share

(15:09):
that attribute then, But yeah,so you know, uh, that was
I was so excited when when Ifound out I was going to get I
was like, oh, I'm goingto be You're very kind. I appreciate
it. I would, really.I think you're the first person we've had
on the show that has some knowledgeof all of the different ways people can

(15:30):
spend campaign money. I think Iwould, and I think the Colonel would,
and I think our listeners would liketo hear some of that. Oh
yeah, yeah, yeah. Soit's it's I'm not familiar with what some
of what they can do with itwhen it when there's money left over,
which I assume there always is.Oh yeah, but if you could give
us a little bit on that ora lot whatever, you'd like. Yeah,
sure. So it's I know whypeople when I first started looking into

(15:56):
this, I figured out why peopledon't write about it that much because it's
really complex. There's a lot ofdifferent moving pieces, and it's hard to
kind of break it down for peopleso that they can understand that they can
easily digest it. So the first, the first person I ever looked at
was Tim Scott and this was inMay of last year. This was when

(16:22):
he first announced he was going torun for president. I was really annoyed
with it. I was vaguely familiar. I have a degree in political science,
so I was vaguely familiar with,you know, the campaign finance,
but I had never really dug intofiles before. And so but what I
noticed was, you know, Iwas like, why is Tim Scott running?

(16:45):
He's not gonna win. We knowhe doesn't have any chance in winning,
you know. And then I cameacross somebody making a comment basically saying
the well, they just do thisto get rid of their excess campaign funds.
And so that's when I looked intohow much money Tim Scott raised for
his reelection in twenty twenty two.Jim Scott raised I believe it was for

(17:07):
fifty two million dollars. H reallyyeah, in for his Senate reelection.
He spent thirty eight million on hisSenate reelection in twenty twenty two. His
Democrat counterpart who ran you know,he didn't have a primary. The democrat
running against him, raised two hundredthousand dollars and she spent I think it

(17:33):
was one hundred and fifty eight thousandof that. So he spent thirty eight
million. She spent one hundred andfifty one hundred and sixty thousand for one
hundred and eighty thousand dollars jat correct. And so you know, obviously I'm
like, what could you possibly bespending? I mean, this is just
like mind blowing, like thirty eightmillion dollars. You know, South Carolina

(17:55):
is a what like seven million peopleLike this is this is outrageous. So
I start I download all of hisfiles and I start looking into it,
and I come across, Uh,the first thing you notice when you download
these files is there's all kinds ofconsulting, and consulting is kind of it's
a scam. Basically anything can belisted as consulting. These what they do

(18:19):
with these consulting firms is that they'llhave something like financial consert, fundraising,
consulting. Well, then those firmsthey'll pay for their travel, they'll pay
for their hotels, they'll pay fortheir meals, everything like that, and
then they just get reimbursed via quoteunquote consulting fees. Does that make sense,

(18:42):
So it's a it's a way tolaunder and hide how the money is
actually being spent. And so whatyou find is that they will spend you
know, Tim Scott again spent somethinglike I think eight million dollars on consulting.
He spent three hundred and fifty thousanddollars on airfare, He spent you

(19:04):
know, black car rentals, privatecar rentals, luxury hotels, all of
this in the name of fund rate, you know, of campaigning quote unquote.
And then but what was really interestingabout Tim Scott was that he he

(19:26):
had a vendor called Market Street marketStreet Solutions I believe it was, and
he paid this company in the courseof that campaign like five million dollars.
And when I looked was like lookinginto who what this company was what I
found was that this company actually doesn'texist anywhere except on paper. It it

(19:52):
had been registered in Delaware exactly oneweek before Tim Scott turned around and paid
it a million dollar for digital consulting. The does it have any physical address,
no website, no nothing, justa UPS box rented out of a
UPS store in North Charleston. Andso what he started doing was he started

(20:22):
putting all of this money into thisone company. But yet for services that
there's actual there's no actual output.Does that make sense? There's no tangible
product that he can show this iswhat I paid them for. And so
obviously that sets off alarm bells becauseagain you've got your spending thirty eight million

(20:44):
dollars, you're running practically unopposed,and you're putting it this money, you
know, five million dollars at thattime. Since when he did his presidential
campaign that ended up. I thinklast time I checked, he had put
twelve million dollars into this company,but five million at that time. And

(21:06):
it's a it's a shell company clearly, you know, as registered in Delaware.
We have no idea who owns thiscompany. I wrote a long thread
that got some good traction on Twitterthen or in The New York Times asked
him about it. He declined toanswer, has still never answered who owns

(21:26):
this company? What did they youactually pay them for? But these are
the kinds of things that are goingon. And what I found after Tim
Scott was that this actually there's nothingreally unusual. I mean, his is
a bit extreme, but it's it'snot unheard of at all. It's actually
pretty common. And some of themare much more flambuoyant than others. But

(21:48):
basically, I would say about eightypercent of our Congress is totally on the
take. And most people just think, oh, they hear campaign funds,
they think that it can be youknow, it's only oh, it's it's
signs, it's commercials, it's adson It's a super grift. It's a
great grift. It's one of thebest grifts out there. See, I

(22:10):
tell people you should run because youget to keep the money you travel.
It's fantastic. You know who gotouted on this. I think it was
Bernie Sanders years ago. Mel Hehad his son as a I think was
part of the advertising. His daughterwas part of the pr So everybody pays
each other one hundred thousand two hundredthousand. You burn the money up,
right, and everybody gets rich onthe way to losing. Right. Oh

(22:33):
yeah, I just did a bigthread on Adam Kinsinger. You know,
Adam Kinsinger raised six million dollars inhis last year at office, and he
wasn't even running for reelection. Andso what happens He opens up, you
know, he leaves office, Heconverts his leftover funds, which was like

(22:53):
almost four million dollars, converts itinto a leadership pack which he and he
then starts. Then then he opensup some five oh one c threes and
he's been putting this money, transferringthis money from his leadership pack into his
five oh one c threes. Butof course we don't know where it goes

(23:17):
from there. Yeah, they createthese laws, they make these laws to
you know, the other day,I just I told Mike the other day,
was it Mike McCall, right,Mike Texas, Michae McCall Mike McCall
writes the bill to kill TikTok?Right, and then he in increments he
invested I think it was one pointsix or one point eight million in meta.

(23:40):
How cute is that? Right?Now? That's not that's you know
that's that's not illegal. No,no, well, not only did he
do that, but you know Iwrote a thread on this as well,
is that Michael McCall's wife is awoman named Lisa Mays and she is the
heiress to the iHeart Radio. Ohwow, that's right. I forgot all

(24:00):
about that, that's right. Yeah, so he knows about media. He
knows about media. Yes, that'sright, he does. And iHeart Radio
has been losing its butt on advertising, but they've been moving into the podcast
platform. Well, podcasting platforms theydirectly compete with things like TikTok for ad
revenue. Right, they've essentially putall of their eggs into this podcast platform

(24:26):
ad revenue basket, and lo andbehold, here comes you know, Michael
McCall here to basically kneecap their biggestcompetitor for ad revenue. Well, he's
a kneecapper. He's a well knownkneecapper. He's a one of the cheerleaders,
one of the big cheerleaders, bythe way, for the NDAA,

(24:47):
the Patriot Act, the Fighter he'sall about, you know, saving our
country from all these Chinese and Russiansthat are going to invade us. On
Liberty Island in New York City anyday now, I know, I just
I think they're hiding out near someof them they have headquarters now, the

(25:08):
Russians and the Chinese. They're hidingout where Billy Graham's place was up there
in North Carolina. They're up inthose mountains. They're just waiting waiting for
TikTok to be taken out any anyminute. We are, we are prepared
in this house. I can tellyou that what is that Boom Carolina right,

(25:29):
boom, North Carolina. Yeah,yeah, it's so. You know,
people, I was just riding lastnight about Mike Mike Johnson, you
know, and you think there aresome good ones. Like I said,
I've looked at every single Republican inCongress. I have looked through their finances.

(25:52):
I know exactly who's scamming, exactlywho's not. You know, some
do it significantly more than other.But well, where else can you go
get a job for one hundred andseventy five one hundred eight thousand dollars,
you know, go in there withthirty nine cents, come out with twelve
million. Nowhere you can't do thatanywhere. And that's on a bankrupt corporation.

(26:14):
Imagine that, Imagine if they hadmoney, right, right, right?
I mean, you know you gotto think I'm doing a piece here
soon about Michael about Kevin McCarthy.Kevin McCarthy when he left office, he
had his principal campaign. The otherthing people don't know about is there are
you have your principal campaign, whichis what like you go to open secrets,

(26:36):
that's what they're going to show you, you know, how much money
they raised. Most people have noclue that. There are actually a lot
of other campaign committees as well.There are joint fundraising committees and then there
are leadership packed packs, right,and these politicians they raise money in both
of those, the joint fundraising committees. This is where they're allowed to skirt

(27:00):
the donor limits. Right. Sonormally you can only give six six hundred
dollars per election cycle to a candidate, right, it's thirty three hundred for
primary, thirty three hundred for thegeneral. But if you want to donate
to their joint fundraising committee, whichthey'll have their if they're in the House,

(27:26):
they'll have their party's committee on there. So like the it's called the
NRCC, the National Republican Congressional Committee. Well, that's got every Republican in
Congress on it, right, Solet's see Dan Crenshaw. He opens up
a joint fundraising committee and it's DanCrenshaw and the NRCC. Well, now,

(27:48):
Dan Crenshaw is allowed to accept sixtysix hundred dollars for every single member
of the NRCC. So that's whattwo hundred and fifteen up looking. So
you know, Mike Johnson's his he'sgot and so you're allowed to accept that

(28:08):
on each one of your your jointfundraising committees. Right, So Mike Johnson,
he's got two joint fundraising committees.This is where he's allowed to accept
five hundred thousand dollars checks from peoplelike Jeffrey ass or Keith ray Boy Rabboys.
And now, of course they're onlyallowed to transfer sixty six hundred into

(28:30):
their principal campaign. But the loopholeis is that they're allowed to spend on
operating expenditures in that joint fundraising committeeas much as they want. And so
most of them, you know,right now, Mike Johnson and his most
recent joint fundraising committee that he openedat the end of November, he's raised

(28:51):
ten million dollars and two million ofthat he has just spent on quote unquote
operating expenditures, which is travel.You know, he's billing out about five
hundred thousand dollars a month for travel. And that's all it's said. So
you know, we don't know,I guess it's private planes. You know,
who knows well. So all ofthese rules, all of these subterfuges,

(29:15):
it's all in legislation written by thepeople who are going to take advantage
of it. Is that right,correct, Yeah, they've written all the
rules. Yep. Is there anindependent console or an independent organization that ever
examines these things? There is.So the FEC is supposed to be separate

(29:37):
and bipartisan, but it's basically it'stotally constipated, as with everything in Washington,
by partisanship, and so nothing evergets done. And if it's if
a violation, you know, ora potential violation is brought up, it
pretty usually just splits down party lines. And then because the you know it's

(30:00):
three and three, oh it's ait's an even number commission of course,
yeah, of course, of course, and so it just you know,
so when these things get brought up, if they can't find common grounds,
then it just splits and then that'suh, you know, I think it

(30:22):
just refers to the candidate, Ibelieve. Yeah. So the only I
guess, the only the only thingthat can happen through all of this is
that if there's a Republican administration andpower, the president could stick the d
o J on one of these guysand maybe prove something correct. But you

(30:45):
know, there's always payback, isn'tthere, right, don't don't. I
wouldn't bet any money on any ofYeah. The the only thing that can
be done is that is to getprimary voters engaged, you know, American

(31:06):
primary voters, especially Republican primary voters. You know, it's pathetic the turnout
you're looking at fifteen to twenty percentmaybe yeh, and it you know,
it's like it would be so easyif you could just get people off of
their butts for one day. Imean, how long does it take to

(31:26):
go vote in a primary? Butpeople are just they're not engaged. Everybody
wants to complain after it's already toolate. And it does work, right,
you know, even though you know, and it frustrates me when people
say, well, you can't voteyour way out of this. I'm like,
but the thing is that when youonly got fifteen percent of voters actually

(31:48):
participating in the primary, how canyou even say that you haven't even tried.
You should take away their licenses andeverything else if they don't want to
vote. It's a citizen duty.Listen, just the other day, seven
hundred thousand people trek to Detroit,Yeah, to go see the draft.
Seven hundred thousand. So you knowwhat it is. They already got to

(32:09):
set up this bread and circus.Your people just go in your backyard,
ask your neighbor across the street.You know everything about football, basketball,
baseball, whatever. They know allof it, but they have no clue
about politics and what runs the country. And that's what they're gambling on.
That's what they're betting on. They'rebetting on keeping you in bread and circus
so that you never learned the tricks, like what you're saying. Like a

(32:31):
lot of people if they're at adinner table tonight and they say, you
know, I saw a mel showand she was talking about this, and
the wife would go, but honey, at seven o'clock, they're going to
have We're going to have the NFLon, we have no time. Let's
get this going. We've got toget desserted. People are more interested in
stars who are going to do nothingfor you. When the so and so

(32:53):
hits the fan, Okay, they'llbe running in their little underground bunkers,
right, And why would would youwant to Why would you want to spend
so much time supporting people who geta chance to make multimillion dollars and they
go hang out in Las Vegas withhookers in cocaine. I can't ever seen
I don't understand that one, youknow what I mean? Like that's my

(33:15):
guy, Oh he's my quarterback.You got these and the jerseys are like
a lot of money right to wearthat? Right? And here he is.
You know, you've got caught snorton cocaine with a hooker in Las
Vegas. Amazing, right, youknow the they'll complain, they know,
you know, people know things aren'tright. I genuinely think the most part
that people are just we've become reallyapathetic. Sometimes I think about like scandals

(33:39):
that used to break out in thefifties or the sixties, things that that
could get a politician, you know, well, we've lost a sense of
shame in our society, no shame, and so obviously that's pretty detrimental.
I just think about the kind ofscandals that used to get people. You

(34:04):
know, they would just resign inshame essentially, And now that's it's gotten
to the point. I mean whenRobert Menendez, oh yeah, and now
he's blame his wife right right.You know, in in Congress, you
just think, do you just haveno shame whatsoever? I would be mortified
to show. Well, you know, why would we think they'd have shame?
Look what they do to this country, Look what they do daily.

(34:28):
So it's obvious they have no shame. I mean they get up on TV
and they speak and you know,they use a nice few words, and
why we have to help this countryin that country. You know, let
me tell you something. In Virginia, Northern Virginia, there's a Hooters right
outside of Washington about thirty Prince Williamsabout thirty miles, Mike thirty five miles
something like that. Yeah, it'sthe busiest hooter on a Sunday right after

(34:52):
church in northern Virginia. Now youknow who lives there, well, a
lot of people who work for thegovernment. Yeah, the uh you know,
I just I think something that frustratesme a lot is when I see
people like on the right. Youknow, we saw January sixth, everybody
knew there was something not right withthe twenty twenty election. Even if you

(35:15):
couldn't put your finger on it,you knew in your heart that what they
had done with COVID was wrong.You knew with the mail in Ballance and
just the shadiness of it all,with the Hunter Biden laptop, all of
it. It was just even ifyou couldn't articulate a coherent, concise explanation

(35:37):
for why it was rigged, youknew it was rigged right, And just
the way that people, you know, the media was able to just demonize
people who got out there on Januarysixth, and obviously some got out of
control, but for the most partthose people were just passionate and they and
things got carried away. There wasclearly some setup involved in there. And

(36:00):
so you know, I watched that. I've been a champion for January sixth
prisoners, and now I'm watching withthese college kids kind of the same thing,
like they know that what's happening inGaza is wrong, and you know,
we see the videos of these littlekids with limbs blown off for crying

(36:23):
out loud, and you know,and just to watch the right demonize these
kids. Who are you know,at least they're doing something healthy right Now,
here's my take, just so youknow, I agree with protests as
part of a free speech Okay,whether you like them or not. Hey,

(36:43):
listen, you funded these poison ivyschools for years. We're billions of
dollars. Now it comes to biteyou and me. Sorry to hear about
it. Okay, but here's thething. We're lucky. When we see
your American flag in front of ahouse or in a post office, it's
very odd, you know that.Now these Palestinian flags are global overnight.

(37:04):
Now there's a lot of funding goinginto this. Okay, there is a
lot of funding, and I believethere are some real, honest, sincerity
people like us. I don't believein this genocide. Look, I'm all
about, hey, come to apeace deal. But there's not going to
be a peace deal because this guy'sa corrupt bastard. Let's just say what
it is. Just like our politicians. Okay, who's running. He wanted

(37:25):
to stay in power. Remember,this is the guy who gave everybody in
his country a jab and said,you know, this is Joe jennocide,
this is Mengela of Israel. Okay, and you know, now we're supposed
to support a guy that wanted tokill his old dation, but they got
mad at Hitler for doing things.Okay. So now you look at it
and you say, wait a minute. No compassion from the right, no

(37:46):
compassion from the churches. Well,you know we have to support our Ali
Israel. Listen, you could supportwhoever you want to support, but you
got no right and wrong. Okay, you have to people. The problem
melt is people do not want toread the Bible, and if they read
it, they read it on theunderstanding of who was at the pulpit who

(38:07):
told them whatever his interpretation of theBible was. Now we have a gentleman
that comes on Bishop Smith Little RockOrchestra, a great friend of ours,
been with us for thirteen years radiopodcast, and he will tell you you
could go to theology school and youdon't even have to have a Bible.
You're not supposed to have it.Okay, that's theology school. So these

(38:29):
people are learning from the wrong people, and to not have compassion I don't
care what they are. They're humanbeings. So for the people who screamed
about six million, six million,six million for years and years, what
happened to them? And they wereso happy when they got to Israel and
got to American and all that,and now they don't have any compassion?

(38:52):
Well, then I got to throwout my magic number, right, Mike,
sixty if six million is a holocaust? What is sixty three million babies?
We are a culture of death,we are immune to it. And
this is what we created. Wecreated, We have no compassion, and
we have sixty three million Babiescuse excuseme? Hello? What's sixty three million?

(39:15):
If six million is a holocaust?And we have a Holocaust museum in
Washington, D C? And wedidn't even cause a holocaust? Okay,
why is it in Washington, dC? Mike tell us? Why?
You know? Why? You know? It's an intelligence center together. They
have their intelligence assets there and theyprobably have a listening position there, and

(39:37):
that's what it's in Washington for.Really, of course, it's reeli if
nothing if not consistently cold blooded.And what's in it for them? That's
fascinating. I've only ever been onceand I found it so depressing and just
kind of like. We actually wentto DC last summer and I was like,
I am not going to that museumagain. Well, I worked,

(39:58):
you know, I had to watchall these those movies in grammar school from
sixth grade to twelfth grade. Okay, I believe it. I don't need
to see it anymore. It's it'sgone. You know, if you honor
it, I think that's fine.But if you want to use it as
exploitation to get money out of myAmerican taxpayers, you can stick it in
your ear. I'll give mel theother one. You know, they have

(40:21):
that organization. I think it's calledthe International Christian Jewish something or other.
It's run by some people that arefriends of John Hagy And this lady gets
up yachtman Rabbi Yachman's daughter runs itnow or whatever. It does one hundred
and two hundred million dollars a year. So now here's the catch. They
show you at late night TV.You know, send the money the Soviet

(40:43):
Jews. Soviet Jews that you know, for years, what twenty years they
ran the commercials the poor Soviet Jewsin Russia. You know, they need
different. You saw those commercials withthe same refrigerator, the painted walls that
are appealing, right, well,they run the same clips. Now for
Ukraine they're called they called Jews SovietJews that are in Ukraine need money.

(41:07):
What a grift. It's a fantasticgrift. Mel. It's just as good
as the campaign finance, you knowon campaign uh getting campaign contributions and wealor's
called Christians send tons and tons ofmoney in there and it's about one hundred
million. You can look it upa year, you know. Yeah,
go ahead, I'm sorry, Iapologize. No, I was just going

(41:29):
to say, before we go,Melt, could you give us give me
your your h handle. Yeah,if you have a website, I have
it, Mike, I have everything. Mike, Oh you have it?
All right, yes, all right, go ahead, let her talk,
go ahead and belt Oh no.So, you know I think that on

(41:49):
the right, you know, thereis this I get it, like I
totally get it, this rejection ofthese these uber liberal, real liberal kind
of comming kids on college campuses.I don't align with these kids on anything,
right, but what they're doing isimportant, and I really wish that

(42:16):
the right's natural reaction was not shutit down because number one, that's just
dumb. You've got the left literallyeating itself right now. But to say
to take inspiration and say, well, why aren't we doing that, Like
why don't we hold people more accountable? Why don't we demand more from people?

(42:42):
And everybody's like, oh, well, that's because we got jobs.
And I get that to a certainextent, I understand it. But at
the same time, you've got oneside that's willing to I mean, these
kids are a lot of them arejust throwing their futures away, but they
will be effective, and we can'teven get our side to get out to

(43:02):
the primary. You know, Sowhich which one do we think it's gonna
win? You know? All rightnow, we're gonna wrap it up with
you. Thank you, honey.That's your last word unless you got another
one. That's it. Yes,all right, than you, Thank you,
thank you, and thank you forthe compliment. It's very kind of
you. Oh absolutely no, Iwas so excited. Thank you.
Advertise With Us

Popular Podcasts

Stuff You Should Know
Dateline NBC

Dateline NBC

Current and classic episodes, featuring compelling true-crime mysteries, powerful documentaries and in-depth investigations. Follow now to get the latest episodes of Dateline NBC completely free, or subscribe to Dateline Premium for ad-free listening and exclusive bonus content: DatelinePremium.com

CrimeLess: Hillbilly Heist

CrimeLess: Hillbilly Heist

It’s 1996 in rural North Carolina, and an oddball crew makes history when they pull off America’s third largest cash heist. But it’s all downhill from there. Join host Johnny Knoxville as he unspools a wild and woolly tale about a group of regular ‘ol folks who risked it all for a chance at a better life. CrimeLess: Hillbilly Heist answers the question: what would you do with 17.3 million dollars? The answer includes diamond rings, mansions, velvet Elvis paintings, plus a run for the border, murder-for-hire-plots, and FBI busts.

Music, radio and podcasts, all free. Listen online or download the iHeart App.

Connect

© 2025 iHeartMedia, Inc.