August 20, 2024 • 41 mins
Today, The Two Mikes welcomed the return of Twila Brase, a distinguished, longtime
professional nurse and one of the county’s most articulate champions of returning control of
medical care to the citizens of America. Ms. Brase said that all Americans are coming close to
the dead-end for the country’s current medical system; the Medicare Trust Fund, just as the
Social Security Trust Fund, is non-existent. This fact is made worse because the number of
people working in the United States is decreasing as the last of the massive postwar “baby-
boomer generation retires”. As night follows day, fewer workers means less payroll taxes,
leaving the government with a choice between higher taxes or more frequent denial of
treatment. The politicians probably will do both. The national government is now paying for
both programs directly from the payroll-tax funds paid by workers Ms. Brase said that in 2022
the federal government’s Medicare plans confronted the reality that the cost of the plans was
$55 billion dollars more than the funds that came in from the payroll taxes paid by American
workers. Recent estimates show that by 2036 the entire national medical system will go “belly-
up”. For that reason, the national government’s socialist medical system already has increased
the ability of the federal bureaucracy, the medical profession, and medical insurers to deny
access to treatment, a money saver and death sentence for those who are denied. Ms. Brase
said that it is critical that all Americans must accept the fact that “freedom from Medicare is
needed if they are ever again to have freedom of medical choice.” Ms. Brase closed by saying
that she also is helping to push legislation that calls for the end to all DEI (Diversity, Equity and
Inclusion) initiatives in medical schools, rightly identifying those initiatives as bringing both the
death-kneel of competence, while also encouraging those being trained as doctors to
discriminate between sexes and racial groups in their provision of medical services.
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professional nurse and one of the county’s most articulate champions of returning control of
medical care to the citizens of America. Ms. Brase said that all Americans are coming close to
the dead-end for the country’s current medical system; the Medicare Trust Fund, just as the
Social Security Trust Fund, is non-existent. This fact is made worse because the number of
people working in the United States is decreasing as the last of the massive postwar “baby-
boomer generation retires”. As night follows day, fewer workers means less payroll taxes,
leaving the government with a choice between higher taxes or more frequent denial of
treatment. The politicians probably will do both. The national government is now paying for
both programs directly from the payroll-tax funds paid by workers Ms. Brase said that in 2022
the federal government’s Medicare plans confronted the reality that the cost of the plans was
$55 billion dollars more than the funds that came in from the payroll taxes paid by American
workers. Recent estimates show that by 2036 the entire national medical system will go “belly-
up”. For that reason, the national government’s socialist medical system already has increased
the ability of the federal bureaucracy, the medical profession, and medical insurers to deny
access to treatment, a money saver and death sentence for those who are denied. Ms. Brase
said that it is critical that all Americans must accept the fact that “freedom from Medicare is
needed if they are ever again to have freedom of medical choice.” Ms. Brase closed by saying
that she also is helping to push legislation that calls for the end to all DEI (Diversity, Equity and
Inclusion) initiatives in medical schools, rightly identifying those initiatives as bringing both the
death-kneel of competence, while also encouraging those being trained as doctors to
discriminate between sexes and racial groups in their provision of medical services.
Follow Freedom First Network on Pickax at https://pickax.com/freedomfirstnet
Elevate your meals with Freedom First Beef… even if you find yourself in the middle of the apocalypse! Use code TWOMIKES for 15% off and enjoy high-quality beef whenever you crave it – today or tomorrow! https://freedomfirstbeef.com
Be ready for anything life throws your way with The Wellness Company's Medical Emergency Kit. Order today using code TWOMIKES for a 10% discount at https://twc.health/ffn.
Protect your financial future with precious metals! Get your FREE Gold and Silver Guide from Genesis Gold today and take control of your financial destiny! https://pickaxgold.com
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big push on the eastern European countries tuning into the
two mics coming in through the website. Uh and imagine
believe it or not, doctor Mike's blog www dot non
hyphen Intervention numeral two dot com is drawing so many
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people to our website.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
So hey, Dodtor Mike, thank you very much.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
You know, well it happenshow in the world of the Internet.
I don't know how, but I appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Yeah, we got a lot of a lot of people
came through your website, your blog to our website, and
Eastern Europe's like really big this last couple of weeks
on you know, coming to our website and viewing the
blog and you know, going directly to the shows, to
the links that you can go to the show. So
without further ado, as they say in Paris during the Olympics, Uh,
(02:24):
let's get our guest on today, who is coming back
for the second time on two mics, Twila Brays. We're
gonna have a lot of things to discuss with her.
She just you were just somewhere, weren't you, Twila recently?
Speaker 5 (02:39):
Yeah, I've been a lot of somewheres, but I was
I was at the Freedom.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
Best, Yes, the Freedom Fest.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Right, let's focus, and that was that was the economic thing,
right is it economic?
Speaker 1 (02:50):
The Freedom Fest?
Speaker 3 (02:51):
That was the one with scouting, yes, although.
Speaker 5 (02:55):
There is a lot of economics too, but there's also
just a lot of policy and other things.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
But yeah, right, all right, she's with the Council for
Health Freedom. There's a sign right behind her. And where
are you presently?
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Right now? You're in Minnesota.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
Minnesota, Great Minnesota, Minnesota. That's the way you pronounce it.
Right in Minnesota, you pronounce it.
Speaker 5 (03:18):
You pronounce it Minnesota.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
I had a friend of mine in Prince William County,
Virginia who was born and raised and then came down
here when he was in college. And then I flew
through there a couple of times going to the West coast,
and I was really amazed that when you wear that Viking,
the Minnesota Vikings shirts, the jerseys and stuff, how you
go on first, how you how you get on the
plane first. It doesn't matter what class you are, you
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got the uniform, you you embark on the plane first.
It's so cool. But thank you for coming back. There's
a few subjects we're going to be touching on. So
where would you like to start.
Speaker 5 (03:56):
Oh, well, we could start with the you know, Harris
versus Trump, because that is certainly a theme of the day.
You know, we don't know who's going to be elected,
and so you know, that's one place that we could start.
Speaker 6 (04:10):
Okay, And today is today is an anniversary which we
were alerted yesterday by Christian It's the fifty ninth birthday
of Medicare.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Who knew? Oh my god?
Speaker 5 (04:27):
Yes, Well, you know the thing I like to tell
people because they don't know the history, they don't know
the details, and I'm just perfectly happy to start right here,
and that is that Medicare was so actually JFK he
was approached for doing Medicare, and before that it was
Harry S. Truman. Harry S. Truman wanted national health insurance
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and couldn't get it. Then the Union's approached JFK, and
he was all on board until he talked to the doctors,
and then he realized this was not going to be
a good thing for the country, and he decided he
wasn't going to do Medicare. So the whole thing was
just like a gone bust. And then he was assassinated.
And when he was after he was assassinated, Johnson came
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up agreed with the unions and he said, on behalf
of the martyred President pass Medicare. So the martyred president,
who was not the martyred President, but nonetheless had decided
Medicare was a bad idea. Johnson said, you know, let's
pass it on behalf of the martyred president. And that's
that whole thing about you know, never waste a crisis, right,
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So in nineteen sixty five, Medicare became law, and then
in nineteen sixty six, nineteen point one million people who
never paid a dime into it suddenly became eligible for
free care. And so this is really a Ponzi scheme
from the get go. And at that time there were
almost five workers for every person in Medicare. Very shortly
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we are going to have less than two works. And
as you might recall, Medicare, for the most part, Medicare
part A the hospitalization is paid for through payroll taxes.
So the fewer payroll taxes that you have, the more
trouble the program's going to be in. And I think
you know, the interesting thing about Medicare is that it
was started enacted at the end of the baby boom generation.
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So they were all born they were the last ones
were born in nineteen sixty four. It's enacted in nineteen
sixty five, it becomes effective in nineteen sixty six. And
today it is the baby boomers who are essentially killing
the program because there's so many there's so many of them, right,
and so they don't have money. They never plan for
money for the baby boom program, or they would or
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the baby boomer generation, or they would have, you know,
had it be a much higher price, they would have
actually made people pay for it. But that was never
the agenda. The agenda was to move towards national healthcare
in this country and to start with the elderly. And
so we are in a situation in America today where
in twenty twenty two, for example, I think there was
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sixty three million people in twenty twenty two dependent on Medicare.
But in twenty twenty two, the federal government paid fifty
three billion dollars more for people in Medicare, then came
in in payroll taxes. So you see, it is a
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significantly a problem. It's a significant problem. So in twenty
twenty two, the federal government paid nine hundred and five
billion dollars to cover everyone. So now listen to me
carefully with this next statistic, because the Trustees In the
twenty twenty four Medicare Report, which came out about two
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months ago, the Trustees said that Medicare will go belly
up in twenty thirty and by belly up it means
that it will be a pay as the money comes
in program, which means there will be no extra money
in the pot, and so as money comes in from
payroll taxes, they'll be able to pay bills. But they
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say they will only be able to pay eighty nine
percent of all Medicare bills. So if in twenty twenty two,
when it costs nine hundred and five billion dollars, they
were only able to pay eighty nine percent, it would
have meant that on ninety nine point five five billion
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dollars in medical bills would not have been paid. So
what does that mean for the seniors who are dependent
on it right It means that either they're going to
be denied access to care more often, or the hospitals
and doctors are going to eat the costs, which they
can't afford to do because Medicare isn't paying them sufficient already.
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And so you know, we're really coming to a point
in the history of this country where this is not
a viable program, but she'd never have started, right. But
it's really not a viable program, but politically the politicians
want to keep it in play. So what they're trying
to do is put people more and more people into
Medicare advantage health plans.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
What does that do? What does that do? Medicare advantage
health plan?
Speaker 5 (09:21):
So I think maybe i'd like to Okay, So here's
what I'll say about that question. There's two forms of
Medicare that you can choose between when you turn sixty
five or when you finally have to go into Medicare
because you're not working for a big enough company anymore.
So then you choose between original Medicare and Medicare Advantage.
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And original Medicare is part A and B and D
if you choose to have it, and so you pay
this money. You can go to any doctor in the
country that takes Medicare. There's no prior authorization. It's a
higher cost because you have to pay for each of
these things separately, but Medicare Advantage often is AB and
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D all wrapped together in a bundle. The federal government
pays these health plans a certain amount every month, per
and rowly, but then the health plans are allowed to
deny access to care through things like prior authorization, whereas
original Medicare there's no prior authorization. Your doctor orders it,
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it's considered medically necessary, and the government pays for it.
So that's the difference between the two programs, which is
why I believe Congress and the government are trying to
get more people into Medicare Advantage where their care can
be rationed away, particularly when they're sick enough or injured enough,
or old enough that they cannot do the appeals process
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to try to get the health plan to reverse its
denial decision.
Speaker 4 (10:59):
So it's kind of a death pen.
Speaker 5 (11:03):
Well, you know, it has authority to deny access to care.
And here's a really interesting statistic as well. So the
federal government has come out with three reports saying that
Medicare Advantage plans, not all of them, but a certain
percent that they looked at are denying access to care
to seniors. And they say it is medically necessary care
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and it is Medicare approof care, so they should be
giving it, but they're not. And so the statistic, the
two statistics that they came out with is that seventy
five percent of the time. If people who are denied
access to care appeal the decision, seventy five percent of
the time, the Medicare advantage health plan will reverse its
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decision and give the individual the care. However, only one
percent of people who are denied access to care ever appeal,
So this is a very lucrative decision on the part
of the health plan. Just deny, deny, deny, deny, deny
and see who appeals. And then if they that they're
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if they had the wherewithal to appeal, if they've got
somebody to help them, if they're not too sick so
they can do it, whatever it is, you know, then
they might get the care they need. But if they're
like really sick, they can't speak English, they don't even know,
they don't even appeal, they don't even know there's an
appeal process, you know. Whatever it is, they're they're dying,
whatever it is, right, then they're not going to get
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the care and the health plan gets to keep the money.
Speaker 4 (12:36):
Wow, so we're headed. We're headed toward UH de facto
no national health insurance, or at least UH a situation
where they can play favorites with who gets whatever money
there is it's it's just almost an incomprehensibly bad program.
Speaker 5 (12:59):
So because it's a Ponzi scheme, right, all of those
people at the very beginning, when they had all of
those workers working, even though they'd never paid a dime
into it, you know it, it was available for them.
But all that said, I did an article once called
Blame Blame Congress for HMOs. And the reason that Ted
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one of the reasons that Ted Kennedy put in the HMO,
I believe, is because of the run on the US
treasury after Medicare. So after Medicare was enacted, you know,
the hospitals, the doctors, the surgeons, they're all looking at
a way bigger pocket to go after when it comes
to pricing medical care for all of these seniors, and
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they just jacked up their prices. They doubled the cost
they called drupled the costs in some cases. And so
there was a run on the US treasury in essence,
because there was nothing to interfere with them charging whatever
they wanted. And of course the seniors aren't paying for it,
and so they're not trying to, you know, make sure
that the doctors in the hospitals are you know, being
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competitive and market based prices because it's all free. And
so Ted Kennedy in nineteen seventy one he held a
series of Medicare cost crisis or cost crisis in Medicare hearings,
like four of them, and then and then the interesting
thing about after that, so he's just talking about essentially
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the run on the US Treasury. But then after that,
his policy advisor, it was his, or was it Nixon's. Anyway,
in Minnesota, we had like one of the first HMOs,
and the main guy for the HMOs here in Minnesota
happened to sit next to I think it was Nixon's
had a policy on a flight from Minnesota to Washington,
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DC and had an entire conversation about HMOs, and by
the time the flight was over, Nixon's policy person was
convinced this was a good idea. And then Ted Kennedy
had been holding these cost crisis hearings and I really think,
you know, if you were here today I had the
opportunity to ask him, I would say, did you push
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forward the HMO Act of nineteen seventy three so that
you would get everybody into the corporate version of socialized medicine,
which is the HMO, which is now called the Health Plan.
Did you do that because you wanted single payer in
this country anyway? So that's how it happened nineteen seventy three,
the HMO Act I. Eventually these got called health plans.
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The Affordable Care Act mandates a qualified health plan for
every American and got rid of catastrophic coverage. And so
really in America today we are living under a socialized
medicine scheme, but it's a corporate version. It's not full government.
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But the health plans are working for the government. The
tale is wagging the dog because the government doesn't want
to run the whole system, but they're they're working their
way to having the health plans run a national health
insurance system for America, and our organization is working to
make sure that never happens.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
Twilight, I have a question about you know, you mentioned Kennedy,
and as long as I could remember, Mike, Mike too,
he was you know, they always spoke about.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
A lock box.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
You know, there was a lock box, social securities lock box,
this lock box. But they always said, whatever we took
out of that lock box, we put a little chit
in there to remind us to pay for it. You know,
did you remember the lock box stories of what Kennedy? Do?
Speaker 1 (16:44):
You know?
Speaker 3 (16:45):
He was called the Lion of the Senate. They meant
as a you know, fierce lion. He went out and
devoured everything. But he was the lying Kennedy, l y
I N. G. Kennedy, the tremendous liar of the Senate.
You know. Yeah, I remember that lock box with social
Security and then it's like, oh, it's going to draw up.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Now.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
I have a question before we get to this. We
want to talk about JD. Vance's interest in healthcare policy
and what it may bring to the table.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Before we get to that.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
How is it that a lot of people today that
are on this Medicare or Medicare Medicaid like never paid
a dime into it, and there's people coming into the
country that are illegals that get it like from day one,
or people on welfare whatever.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
How does that operate?
Speaker 5 (17:30):
Okay, I am going to answer your question, but I
have to say one thing about the lock box because
you kind of left it there. And the fact of
the matter is Social Security law itself says that there's
no guarantee of access to Social Security for anybody in
Congress can take the money anytime they want.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (17:48):
The other thing about Medicare is there's really no such
thing as a Medicare trust fund. There's no fund, and
so what you really have is this so called fund
is simply the amount of money in excess of what
the amount of tax dollars in excess of what is
being spent for the Medicare program. Well, in two thousand
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and eight we went under. There was no excess, right,
the amount of money, well, there was, I'm sorry, there
was excess, but the amount of money being spent was
more than the amount coming in. But there was still
extra access from the years before. Right. But now in
twenty thirty six is when there's not going to be
excess from the years before. There's not going to be
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excess at all. There's only going to be the money
that comes in as workers work and pay the payroll taxes,
which is one of the reasons why they say, if
you want to save Medicare, you'll have to double the
payroll taxes on the workers, right, or you'll have to
decrease who gets it or when they can get it,
you know, or later in life, that sort of thing. Okay,
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So that's the whole thing about the lock boxes. There's
no lock boxes, there's no trust fund, there's nothing. So
now you're a question about Medicare and Medicaid, and I'm
trying to remember the specific question that you had about that,
but I just want to say that.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
How is it that people that come to this country
are afforded that from day one, that never even they're
not even citizens, and they're on Medicare and Medicaid.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
How does that happen?
Speaker 5 (19:22):
The government decides, right, so you know, and states are
are offering medicaid. So Medicaid is a state program that
is partially federally funded. Medicare is a fully federal program.
So so you got the two of them, and one
is for the so called poor, which there's lots of
people on Medicare Medicaid that are nowhere close to poor
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as you see them in other countries, right, And so
there's a lot of people getting a lot of money,
well for money, Medicaid money. It's one of the reasons
why they're working, because they're never getting hungry, they're never
needing to work.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Right.
Speaker 5 (19:59):
But but anyway, and so yes, like Vance is saying
that he doesn't want Medicare for illegals, and I'm sure
he probably doesn't want Medicaid for illegals either, But that
is a state one run program, although at the federal
level because they partially funded, the Feds could decide that
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they aren't going to fund anybody who provides coverage to
illegal So that is something that the federal government could do.
But what you said about the you know, the people
who came in for free, because this is you know,
they just wanted to start national health care and they're
going to do it with the elderly, and lots of
elderly didn't need that. Lots of elderly today don't need
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the program. But it is such a welfare program. The
federal government takes a doctor's bill, cuts it by sixty
percent typically, and then pays and then pays eighty percent
of what remains and then tells the to pay twenty percent.
So if you just take that with one hundred dollars, right,
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they cut off sixty dollars, then they pay eighty percent
of the forty dollars thirty two, and then they tell
the Medicare recipient that they have to pay eight dollars.
That's a typical way. So it is truly a welfare program.
It is. It is running our national fisk into great,
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great danger. And lots of people who have Medicare say,
and they said it to me, but we have paid
for this program, so we deserve to get the I.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
Would say that.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
I would say the same thing as well, I paid
for this all this year. Is all these years, I
paid so much money into whatever system you want to
call it.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
Do we get anything for it? You know?
Speaker 5 (21:49):
So here's the reality. Studies show that. I mean, look
at your Social Security statement. Just look at your Social
Security statement. See how much you really pay in there,
and see if you think that amount is going to
pay the government takes that amount of your paycheck, is
that going to pay for thirty to forty years of
care for you?
Speaker 1 (22:10):
No?
Speaker 3 (22:11):
But you know what we were under the assumption of Twila,
that this is myself and a lot of others, that
they took this money and put it somewhere like you
would say an annuity. I just want to pick a name, okay,
And that money was supposed to compound and blah blah
blah blah blah, and they would have enough money. Now
if I knew what I knew now, I would have
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bought two annuities and invested in them for just healthcare,
not just retirement. You know what I'm saying, and said, Okay,
if you blow out social Security or you rip us
off on the Medicare, Medicaid and social Security, I already
have the money invested.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
You know.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
That's what I thought they were doing with social Security
all along.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
We're putting.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
But what they did is they just kept taking the
money out, finding an entitlement that got them the votes.
Right people to sit on couches, eat potato chips, have
a healthy, unhealthy lifestyle.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
Told them you don't have to work.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
Just pull the lever every four years or two years, right,
and you'll be all best friends and you don't have
to do anything but get fat.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
That's all.
Speaker 5 (23:18):
I want to tell you. That the studies show that
whatever you put into Mandicare, whatever you put in you
get Medicare pays about three times that amount.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
Oh, I would think so, I would think so, Yeah,
I would think.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
So.
Speaker 4 (23:34):
It's a system that almost sounds like it should have
been written by Lewis Carroll, like an addition to Alice
in Wonderland.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
It's the Wizard of Ours, Mike, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (23:46):
It's just it's just incredibly sophomoric in the way that
it doesn't seem to have been written by competent adults.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
Or established it.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
But also Tila, I have also Mike, think about this, We,
as the older guys.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
Paid the real dollar.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
Now, I know you're going to get three times more
for your money, but we paid the real dollar before
it was totally inflated to a nickel.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
Now where we're getting a nickel on a dollar. Let's say,
you know what I mean, it's.
Speaker 5 (24:19):
A good Well I want to just say as well
that the age group that is growing at the fastest
rate by percentage are the centurions. So the centurions, by
the time they get to centurion age have been in
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the program for thirty five years, and so you know,
that's a lot of that's a lot of time for
the government to be paying for whatever you need. And
of course the government is running out of money.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Now.
Speaker 5 (24:53):
This is one of the reasons that we have tried.
We had an executive order in twenty nineteen to supper
r social Security access, your access to Social Security from
Medicare enrollment. So in nineteen people don't know that, but
in nineteen ninety three, the Clintons tied the two. I
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don't know who. I won't say the Clintons, I'll say
the Clinton administration tied the two together. And now the
Operations Manual of the Social Security Administration says that if
you do not enroll in Medicare, you cannot get your
Social Security benefits. And it also says if you choose
to disenroll from Medicare for whatever reason, like you realize
(25:37):
it's ration in your LifeWay, then you have to pay
back all the Social Security and medical benefits that you
have ever received. No, none of that is a law.
It's not a rule. It was never published. It was
just written. And the people who sued against this in
two thousand and eight during discovery could never figure out
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who put it in. But in twenty nineteen, we secured
an executive order from President Trump which said that people
would be allowed to leave Medicare and not lose their
Social Security. But you know what happened right after twenty nineteen,
so that executive order and the rule that was coming
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out of it was completely derailed by COVID, and then
Trump didn't get reelected, and then Biden rescinded the order
within the first day or two of his presidency. So
if Trump gets back in, we will go after that again.
It will take us a much less time because we
did have it. At least I would hope that would
be the case. And then in addition to that, we
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have the Retirement Freedom Act in Congress, which we first
secured from Senator Jim DeMint in twenty eleven, and every
two years we go after re upping it. And it
depends on who's there, but the whole thing is to
keep it in play because this has to happen. It
has to happen. If you are not free from Medicare,
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you will never be free in the exam room because Medicare.
There's a lot of your listeners who are going, well,
you know, I got a long time time in Medicare.
They have no idea that Medicare controls everything that happens
in the exam room for everyone. It controls the doctors.
It mandated that electronic record surveillance system that's in the
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exam room. It mandates quality reporting by the doctors according
to the government's idea of quality, and it looks at
all their patients, not just Medicare patients. So Medicare has
been used to manipulate the entire healthcare system to do
what the government wants it to do. So all your
listeners should realize that freedom from Medicare is essential for
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health freedom in this country.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
Also, I want to just say this, and most of
these these data things that they or apps they want
you to sign into or whatever, you know that the
healthcare systems have, now what do they call portals?
Speaker 4 (28:02):
Patient portals?
Speaker 1 (28:02):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (28:03):
Yeah, almost every other week they're being hacked, you know
what I mean. And it's like the crowd source thing,
you know, and then they're being hacked, and then they
send your letter in the mail. By the way, here's
a free year of checking your credit and see it
if you're on the dark web. And you know, but
it's almost every week you it's either a credit card
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or healthcare system has been hacked. You say to yourself,
how is it that they don't have anybody that can
put in what we have? We have a sponsor on
our show. When you when you go to the website ages,
you know, they tap something into your portal of your
server which blocks what is it almost what nine million
(28:47):
malware things now Mike something like that. Yeah, I mean,
why not spend the money because look, but you know,
here's the thing, twilet, nobody could sue these people, these
data companies that consolid data or your data from the
healthcare system, you can't sue them forgetting hack. I don't
know why, but it's set up like that.
Speaker 5 (29:09):
So I wrote big brother in the exam room, the
dangerous truth about electronic health records and the fact of
the matter that the federal government put us in the
danger zone that we are in. First, they took away
our privacy through HIPPA, and they took away our right
of private action to sue these entities. Instead they can
be hip of violations and then they have to pay
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the federal government. They don't have to pay the person
who's data got access right. And then they put in
the electronic health record mandate. So now you don't have
any privacy, you don't have any consent rights over your data,
and now they digitize it all. So of course they
made it available to ransomware attacks, you know, cybersecurity threats.
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And all of these doctors around the country, lots of
them are now employees because they could not afford the
electroc a health record mandate. So that's really handy for
those who want to socialize healthcare system. And then of
course it's a surveillance system, tracking system, and control your
doctor system, which is also great for a socialized system.
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But all of this was put into place because they
wanted to track the doctors. They wanted to essentially commit
fraud by upcoding people, and you know, putting in a
price for every little thing. So there are different agendas
with the electronic health record, but the agenda has never
been the patient because the patient, the patient is the
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one who's being threatened, and actually national security is being
threatened as well. There's a national medical record system called
ehealthexchange dot org. Everybody listening should pick up their phone
and go to ehealthexchange dot org and find out if
your doctor, your clinic, your health plan, your state government
(30:58):
is in the eHealth Exchange. This is being created by
the federal government to be essentially a gateway, a centralized gateway.
It's not all the data is not there. It's a
centralized gateway to the data wherever it is. So somebody
in California who wants your records in Maine, if they
can provide a good reason or they've got a third
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party contract because the hippo to get it, even though
you didn't give consent, they can just go through the
eHealth Exchange and grab it in Maine. So this is
where the whole country is going, because of those who
want to socialize healthcare system and because of those who
want to get billions of dollars from our health data
without our consent.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
Final so the heat Health Exchange is not our consent
at all.
Speaker 5 (31:46):
No. Well, we would like though, for states to put
that as state laws. If any legislators are listening to
your program, or any people want to tell their state
legislators that they should have a law that says that
the data cannot be shared through the eHealth Exchange or
a state health exchange health information exchange without their consent.
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That would be a wonderful bill in every state.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
You know.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
I was in a meeting I guess two weeks ago
in a law firm's office, listening to some of these
legal brains speak about you know, what's on the radar
screen with adversary nations.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
And one of the things that came up was for this.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
Invest in something that had to do with data or
medical the US government would look very closely at it
on you know, how they could they wouldn't be attached
to adversary nations being able to get into something that
he would going to invest in. Let's say so that
because he said one of the biggest things what they said,
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these four or five people said, one of the biggest
things that's happening now is such nations which I won't name,
are trying to get into our electronic systems to see
what our healthcare is all about, meaning the citizen, not
how we operate a healthcare, but get data on us.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
How healthy are we, what's our blood type? You know,
so and so.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
And I was like amazed to listen to this, And
now I'm listening to you today and I'm saying, wow,
all of this ties in.
Speaker 5 (33:36):
Well, our government, our Congress, for their own agendas, have
made us extraordinarily vulnerable.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
Yes, ma'am proposed us.
Speaker 5 (33:47):
To our adversaries in ways that should never have.
Speaker 4 (33:51):
Happened, but was done deliberately. I'm sorry you can only
say that it was done deliberately.
Speaker 5 (33:59):
Well it was. I mean there are different agendas. I
know who was there at the table wanting Hippa to
go into place. I know who was there asking for
the electronic health records. And you know, if they can
convince the politicians through donations or other mechanisms to do
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this to us. The politicians have their own agendas, but
a lot of these people who wanted it, they may
or may not have wanted to be a national threat
to the nation, but they saw the ability to get
to a socialized healthcare system. They saw the ability to
do a data grab that would bring them in billions.
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And for your listeners to understand what I mean by billions,
there is a statistic out of United Health Group, which
is the largest health plan in the country, actually in
the world. They do operate across overseas as well. They
have a separate data division called optim Insights. And I
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believe it was in twenty twenty three when the amount
of money that they made, which all they do is
work with health data. They use, they slice and dice
whatever it is with health data. And I believe that
the amount of money in twenty twenty three was eighteen
point nine billion dollars in revenue.
Speaker 1 (35:22):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
Billion dollars, Mike, you don't even have that.
Speaker 4 (35:26):
No, No, I'm still six seven months away from that.
Speaker 3 (35:30):
Okay, before we close up with her. I want to
talk to her about this Educate Act. Let us know
a little bit about that spiler.
Speaker 5 (35:37):
So the Educate Act is very exciting and should pass.
This is an act that would say that any medical
school in the country who is imposing DEI initiatives on
their teachers or on their students, you know, forcing them
to take some diversity creed or to sign some belief statement,
(36:00):
or imposing classes that teach them about you know, white
privilege or you know, repentance for being white, or whatever
you want to say about all of that. Right, what
this act would say is that the federal government will
withhold all funds from any medical school that does anything
DEI related. And the reason why this is so important
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is I think best said by doctor Stanley Goldfarb of
the organization Do No Harm, and he talks about the
fact that the last thing you want is a DEI
doctor because they're dangerous, and the medical schools are teaching
doctors not to be doctors, they're teaching them to be activists.
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And one of the things that I like to say
about this is I'm a nurse, so I've seen a
lot of people in the emergency room before I started
this organization. And so the last thing that you want
is for a doctor to be focus on the color
of your skin rather than let's just say, the cancer
ravaging your body. The focus should be on medical helping
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the patient be cured, you know, comforted, you know, whatever,
cared for. It should not be anything about trying to
fit some statistics, some dei statistics that the hospital has
to do if the medical school wants to teach or
whatever it is. Right, this is about a patient and
a doctor and the obligation of the doctor to take
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care of the patient, no matter what his color, creed,
or any other belief system that he might have. There
should not be any education to differentiate between patients and
how you take care of them.
Speaker 3 (37:42):
It did work for many many years, didn't Mischwila While
you were a nurse.
Speaker 5 (37:47):
I can't say that I ever looked at a patient
of any particular color and said, well, I think i'll
wait for you know, a few hours before you know,
this is just like, no, of course this work. We
didn't do that. We didn't do that.
Speaker 3 (38:01):
Yeah, but you know what, because so many young people,
you know, the younger generation is so brainwashed into so
many things now and you know, since we've had episodes
of you know, tolerance and extra tolerance and more tolerance
and then diversity and more diversity, inequality and brainwashing these
kids that you know, white people are just bad and
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maybe you know, I could just give this guy a
shot and take them out, you know, I mean, we
were the most racist country in the world. We voted
for a half black man twice. That you know, you
don't see that in a lot of other countries, but
it happened. And you know, the hatred is just amazing.
But you know what, whoever takes that creed, you know,
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I just hope to God that you know, I have
my doctors. I choose it pretty well, you know what
I mean. I know what I'm looking for in a doctor,
and if I if I hear too many questions that
I don't like, I just remove myself. But you could
wrap it up whatever you like to speak about less
it's your floor.
Speaker 1 (39:02):
Go ahead, Then I ask.
Speaker 4 (39:03):
One more equips toilet. Yes, this is such a disaster,
such a morass. It strikes me that it's hiding something.
Who are the winners here at the moment?
Speaker 5 (39:15):
In de I? Who are the winners in DEI?
Speaker 4 (39:20):
Who are the the whole healthcare program.
Speaker 5 (39:23):
Oh I see. Oh well, the winners are those who
want to seize control of the one industry on which
everyone's lives depend. So this is a powerful industry. And
if you can capture all the dollars and capture all
the power, and capture all the data, then you have
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you have the ability to control the people, You have
the ability to run the country. I mean, before I
ever started this organization, one of the things that I
said is if they this was with the Clintons. That's
when this organization began. I said, you know, if they
take over health care, they will take over the country.
And we have seen that with COVID. We have seen
just how that works, with COVID using healthcare to control
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the people, to scare the people, to lock down the people.
Well it's also to control their doctors and to take
their dollars and everything else. Right, And so the winners
are the politicians, the winners are the deep state, The
winners are the government officials, and the winners are all
the advertisers and those who get the consent of the
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government to sell their products. Just like we saw with
the FDA, Pfizer, and Moderna right, they got it, and
they got billions, billions from the taxpayers because the government
said we'll buy your products and will mandate it for everybody. Well,
how handy was that for them? Right? And so those
are the winners. There's different agendas. There's political agendas, there's
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power agendas, there's profit agendas, and all of those are
the winners, but not the American people.
Speaker 4 (41:00):
And it's possible, I think, from the way we've spoken
this morning, that is also a tool for reducing the population.
Speaker 5 (41:09):
Yes, well, there are there is that whole cadre of
people who do think that there are too many people
here and we shouldn't give any money to anybody who's
poor or sick or you know, uh doesn't work, or
mentally handicapped. Right, So it's very euthanasia or eugenics can
be very eugenics oriented.
Speaker 3 (41:31):
Yeah, many of these people, many of these people in
power in this country and around the globe, I think
there's just too many people on the earth. So that's
that's another avenue. Twilat is so good talking to you again.
Thank you so much.
Speaker 4 (41:42):
You are a fabulous guest man.
Speaker 5 (41:44):
Thank you so much, glad to be here.
Speaker 4 (41:47):
Thank you, Thank you.
Speaker 5 (41:48):
By bye bye,
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I don't know how, but I appreciate it.
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on you know, coming to our website and viewing the
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without further ado, as they say in Paris during the Olympics, Uh,
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let's get our guest on today, who is coming back
for the second time on two mics, Twila Brays. We're
gonna have a lot of things to discuss with her.
She just you were just somewhere, weren't you, Twila recently?
Speaker 5 (02:39):
Yeah, I've been a lot of somewheres, but I was
I was at the Freedom.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
Best, Yes, the Freedom Fest.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Right, let's focus, and that was that was the economic thing,
right is it economic?
Speaker 1 (02:50):
The Freedom Fest?
Speaker 3 (02:51):
That was the one with scouting, yes, although.
Speaker 5 (02:55):
There is a lot of economics too, but there's also
just a lot of policy and other things.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
But yeah, right, all right, she's with the Council for
Health Freedom. There's a sign right behind her. And where
are you presently?
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Right now? You're in Minnesota.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
Minnesota, Great Minnesota, Minnesota. That's the way you pronounce it.
Right in Minnesota, you pronounce it.
Speaker 5 (03:18):
You pronounce it Minnesota.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
I had a friend of mine in Prince William County,
Virginia who was born and raised and then came down
here when he was in college. And then I flew
through there a couple of times going to the West coast,
and I was really amazed that when you wear that Viking,
the Minnesota Vikings shirts, the jerseys and stuff, how you
go on first, how you how you get on the
plane first. It doesn't matter what class you are, you
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got the uniform, you you embark on the plane first.
It's so cool. But thank you for coming back. There's
a few subjects we're going to be touching on. So
where would you like to start.
Speaker 5 (03:56):
Oh, well, we could start with the you know, Harris
versus Trump, because that is certainly a theme of the day.
You know, we don't know who's going to be elected,
and so you know, that's one place that we could start.
Speaker 6 (04:10):
Okay, And today is today is an anniversary which we
were alerted yesterday by Christian It's the fifty ninth birthday
of Medicare.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Who knew? Oh my god?
Speaker 5 (04:27):
Yes, Well, you know the thing I like to tell
people because they don't know the history, they don't know
the details, and I'm just perfectly happy to start right here,
and that is that Medicare was so actually JFK he
was approached for doing Medicare, and before that it was
Harry S. Truman. Harry S. Truman wanted national health insurance
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and couldn't get it. Then the Union's approached JFK, and
he was all on board until he talked to the doctors,
and then he realized this was not going to be
a good thing for the country, and he decided he
wasn't going to do Medicare. So the whole thing was
just like a gone bust. And then he was assassinated.
And when he was after he was assassinated, Johnson came
(05:12):
up agreed with the unions and he said, on behalf
of the martyred President pass Medicare. So the martyred president,
who was not the martyred President, but nonetheless had decided
Medicare was a bad idea. Johnson said, you know, let's
pass it on behalf of the martyred president. And that's
that whole thing about you know, never waste a crisis, right,
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So in nineteen sixty five, Medicare became law, and then
in nineteen sixty six, nineteen point one million people who
never paid a dime into it suddenly became eligible for
free care. And so this is really a Ponzi scheme
from the get go. And at that time there were
almost five workers for every person in Medicare. Very shortly
(05:57):
we are going to have less than two works. And
as you might recall, Medicare, for the most part, Medicare
part A the hospitalization is paid for through payroll taxes.
So the fewer payroll taxes that you have, the more
trouble the program's going to be in. And I think
you know, the interesting thing about Medicare is that it
was started enacted at the end of the baby boom generation.
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So they were all born they were the last ones
were born in nineteen sixty four. It's enacted in nineteen
sixty five, it becomes effective in nineteen sixty six. And
today it is the baby boomers who are essentially killing
the program because there's so many there's so many of them, right,
and so they don't have money. They never plan for
money for the baby boom program, or they would or
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the baby boomer generation, or they would have, you know,
had it be a much higher price, they would have
actually made people pay for it. But that was never
the agenda. The agenda was to move towards national healthcare
in this country and to start with the elderly. And
so we are in a situation in America today where
in twenty twenty two, for example, I think there was
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sixty three million people in twenty twenty two dependent on Medicare.
But in twenty twenty two, the federal government paid fifty
three billion dollars more for people in Medicare, then came
in in payroll taxes. So you see, it is a
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significantly a problem. It's a significant problem. So in twenty
twenty two, the federal government paid nine hundred and five
billion dollars to cover everyone. So now listen to me
carefully with this next statistic, because the Trustees In the
twenty twenty four Medicare Report, which came out about two
(07:52):
months ago, the Trustees said that Medicare will go belly
up in twenty thirty and by belly up it means
that it will be a pay as the money comes
in program, which means there will be no extra money
in the pot, and so as money comes in from
payroll taxes, they'll be able to pay bills. But they
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say they will only be able to pay eighty nine
percent of all Medicare bills. So if in twenty twenty two,
when it costs nine hundred and five billion dollars, they
were only able to pay eighty nine percent, it would
have meant that on ninety nine point five five billion
(08:35):
dollars in medical bills would not have been paid. So
what does that mean for the seniors who are dependent
on it right It means that either they're going to
be denied access to care more often, or the hospitals
and doctors are going to eat the costs, which they
can't afford to do because Medicare isn't paying them sufficient already.
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And so you know, we're really coming to a point
in the history of this country where this is not
a viable program, but she'd never have started, right. But
it's really not a viable program, but politically the politicians
want to keep it in play. So what they're trying
to do is put people more and more people into
Medicare advantage health plans.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
What does that do? What does that do? Medicare advantage
health plan?
Speaker 5 (09:21):
So I think maybe i'd like to Okay, So here's
what I'll say about that question. There's two forms of
Medicare that you can choose between when you turn sixty
five or when you finally have to go into Medicare
because you're not working for a big enough company anymore.
So then you choose between original Medicare and Medicare Advantage.
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And original Medicare is part A and B and D
if you choose to have it, and so you pay
this money. You can go to any doctor in the
country that takes Medicare. There's no prior authorization. It's a
higher cost because you have to pay for each of
these things separately, but Medicare Advantage often is AB and
(10:08):
D all wrapped together in a bundle. The federal government
pays these health plans a certain amount every month, per
and rowly, but then the health plans are allowed to
deny access to care through things like prior authorization, whereas
original Medicare there's no prior authorization. Your doctor orders it,
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it's considered medically necessary, and the government pays for it.
So that's the difference between the two programs, which is
why I believe Congress and the government are trying to
get more people into Medicare Advantage where their care can
be rationed away, particularly when they're sick enough or injured enough,
or old enough that they cannot do the appeals process
(10:54):
to try to get the health plan to reverse its
denial decision.
Speaker 4 (10:59):
So it's kind of a death pen.
Speaker 5 (11:03):
Well, you know, it has authority to deny access to care.
And here's a really interesting statistic as well. So the
federal government has come out with three reports saying that
Medicare Advantage plans, not all of them, but a certain
percent that they looked at are denying access to care
to seniors. And they say it is medically necessary care
(11:27):
and it is Medicare approof care, so they should be
giving it, but they're not. And so the statistic, the
two statistics that they came out with is that seventy
five percent of the time. If people who are denied
access to care appeal the decision, seventy five percent of
the time, the Medicare advantage health plan will reverse its
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decision and give the individual the care. However, only one
percent of people who are denied access to care ever appeal,
So this is a very lucrative decision on the part
of the health plan. Just deny, deny, deny, deny, deny
and see who appeals. And then if they that they're
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if they had the wherewithal to appeal, if they've got
somebody to help them, if they're not too sick so
they can do it, whatever it is, you know, then
they might get the care they need. But if they're
like really sick, they can't speak English, they don't even know,
they don't even appeal, they don't even know there's an
appeal process, you know. Whatever it is, they're they're dying,
whatever it is, right, then they're not going to get
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the care and the health plan gets to keep the money.
Speaker 4 (12:36):
Wow, so we're headed. We're headed toward UH de facto
no national health insurance, or at least UH a situation
where they can play favorites with who gets whatever money
there is it's it's just almost an incomprehensibly bad program.
Speaker 5 (12:59):
So because it's a Ponzi scheme, right, all of those
people at the very beginning, when they had all of
those workers working, even though they'd never paid a dime
into it, you know it, it was available for them.
But all that said, I did an article once called
Blame Blame Congress for HMOs. And the reason that Ted
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one of the reasons that Ted Kennedy put in the HMO,
I believe, is because of the run on the US
treasury after Medicare. So after Medicare was enacted, you know,
the hospitals, the doctors, the surgeons, they're all looking at
a way bigger pocket to go after when it comes
to pricing medical care for all of these seniors, and
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they just jacked up their prices. They doubled the cost
they called drupled the costs in some cases. And so
there was a run on the US treasury in essence,
because there was nothing to interfere with them charging whatever
they wanted. And of course the seniors aren't paying for it,
and so they're not trying to, you know, make sure
that the doctors in the hospitals are you know, being
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competitive and market based prices because it's all free. And
so Ted Kennedy in nineteen seventy one he held a
series of Medicare cost crisis or cost crisis in Medicare hearings,
like four of them, and then and then the interesting
thing about after that, so he's just talking about essentially
(14:26):
the run on the US Treasury. But then after that,
his policy advisor, it was his, or was it Nixon's. Anyway,
in Minnesota, we had like one of the first HMOs,
and the main guy for the HMOs here in Minnesota
happened to sit next to I think it was Nixon's
had a policy on a flight from Minnesota to Washington,
(14:50):
DC and had an entire conversation about HMOs, and by
the time the flight was over, Nixon's policy person was
convinced this was a good idea. And then Ted Kennedy
had been holding these cost crisis hearings and I really think,
you know, if you were here today I had the
opportunity to ask him, I would say, did you push
(15:11):
forward the HMO Act of nineteen seventy three so that
you would get everybody into the corporate version of socialized medicine,
which is the HMO, which is now called the Health Plan.
Did you do that because you wanted single payer in
this country anyway? So that's how it happened nineteen seventy three,
the HMO Act I. Eventually these got called health plans.
(15:34):
The Affordable Care Act mandates a qualified health plan for
every American and got rid of catastrophic coverage. And so
really in America today we are living under a socialized
medicine scheme, but it's a corporate version. It's not full government.
(15:56):
But the health plans are working for the government. The
tale is wagging the dog because the government doesn't want
to run the whole system, but they're they're working their
way to having the health plans run a national health
insurance system for America, and our organization is working to
make sure that never happens.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
Twilight, I have a question about you know, you mentioned Kennedy,
and as long as I could remember, Mike, Mike too,
he was you know, they always spoke about.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
A lock box.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
You know, there was a lock box, social securities lock box,
this lock box. But they always said, whatever we took
out of that lock box, we put a little chit
in there to remind us to pay for it. You know,
did you remember the lock box stories of what Kennedy? Do?
Speaker 1 (16:44):
You know?
Speaker 3 (16:45):
He was called the Lion of the Senate. They meant
as a you know, fierce lion. He went out and
devoured everything. But he was the lying Kennedy, l y
I N. G. Kennedy, the tremendous liar of the Senate.
You know. Yeah, I remember that lock box with social
Security and then it's like, oh, it's going to draw up.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Now.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
I have a question before we get to this. We
want to talk about JD. Vance's interest in healthcare policy
and what it may bring to the table.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Before we get to that.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
How is it that a lot of people today that
are on this Medicare or Medicare Medicaid like never paid
a dime into it, and there's people coming into the
country that are illegals that get it like from day one,
or people on welfare whatever.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
How does that operate?
Speaker 5 (17:30):
Okay, I am going to answer your question, but I
have to say one thing about the lock box because
you kind of left it there. And the fact of
the matter is Social Security law itself says that there's
no guarantee of access to Social Security for anybody in
Congress can take the money anytime they want.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (17:48):
The other thing about Medicare is there's really no such
thing as a Medicare trust fund. There's no fund, and
so what you really have is this so called fund
is simply the amount of money in excess of what
the amount of tax dollars in excess of what is
being spent for the Medicare program. Well, in two thousand
(18:10):
and eight we went under. There was no excess, right,
the amount of money, well, there was, I'm sorry, there
was excess, but the amount of money being spent was
more than the amount coming in. But there was still
extra access from the years before. Right. But now in
twenty thirty six is when there's not going to be
excess from the years before. There's not going to be
(18:31):
excess at all. There's only going to be the money
that comes in as workers work and pay the payroll taxes,
which is one of the reasons why they say, if
you want to save Medicare, you'll have to double the
payroll taxes on the workers, right, or you'll have to
decrease who gets it or when they can get it,
you know, or later in life, that sort of thing. Okay,
(18:52):
So that's the whole thing about the lock boxes. There's
no lock boxes, there's no trust fund, there's nothing. So
now you're a question about Medicare and Medicaid, and I'm
trying to remember the specific question that you had about that,
but I just want to say that.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
How is it that people that come to this country
are afforded that from day one, that never even they're
not even citizens, and they're on Medicare and Medicaid.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
How does that happen?
Speaker 5 (19:22):
The government decides, right, so you know, and states are
are offering medicaid. So Medicaid is a state program that
is partially federally funded. Medicare is a fully federal program.
So so you got the two of them, and one
is for the so called poor, which there's lots of
people on Medicare Medicaid that are nowhere close to poor
(19:45):
as you see them in other countries, right, And so
there's a lot of people getting a lot of money,
well for money, Medicaid money. It's one of the reasons
why they're working, because they're never getting hungry, they're never
needing to work.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Right.
Speaker 5 (19:59):
But but anyway, and so yes, like Vance is saying
that he doesn't want Medicare for illegals, and I'm sure
he probably doesn't want Medicaid for illegals either, But that
is a state one run program, although at the federal
level because they partially funded, the Feds could decide that
(20:19):
they aren't going to fund anybody who provides coverage to
illegal So that is something that the federal government could do.
But what you said about the you know, the people
who came in for free, because this is you know,
they just wanted to start national health care and they're
going to do it with the elderly, and lots of
elderly didn't need that. Lots of elderly today don't need
(20:43):
the program. But it is such a welfare program. The
federal government takes a doctor's bill, cuts it by sixty
percent typically, and then pays and then pays eighty percent
of what remains and then tells the to pay twenty percent.
So if you just take that with one hundred dollars, right,
(21:04):
they cut off sixty dollars, then they pay eighty percent
of the forty dollars thirty two, and then they tell
the Medicare recipient that they have to pay eight dollars.
That's a typical way. So it is truly a welfare program.
It is. It is running our national fisk into great,
(21:27):
great danger. And lots of people who have Medicare say,
and they said it to me, but we have paid
for this program, so we deserve to get the I.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
Would say that.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
I would say the same thing as well, I paid
for this all this year. Is all these years, I
paid so much money into whatever system you want to
call it.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
Do we get anything for it? You know?
Speaker 5 (21:49):
So here's the reality. Studies show that. I mean, look
at your Social Security statement. Just look at your Social
Security statement. See how much you really pay in there,
and see if you think that amount is going to
pay the government takes that amount of your paycheck, is
that going to pay for thirty to forty years of
care for you?
Speaker 1 (22:10):
No?
Speaker 3 (22:11):
But you know what we were under the assumption of Twila,
that this is myself and a lot of others, that
they took this money and put it somewhere like you
would say an annuity. I just want to pick a name, okay,
And that money was supposed to compound and blah blah
blah blah blah, and they would have enough money. Now
if I knew what I knew now, I would have
(22:31):
bought two annuities and invested in them for just healthcare,
not just retirement. You know what I'm saying, and said, Okay,
if you blow out social Security or you rip us
off on the Medicare, Medicaid and social Security, I already
have the money invested.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
You know.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
That's what I thought they were doing with social Security
all along.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
We're putting.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
But what they did is they just kept taking the
money out, finding an entitlement that got them the votes.
Right people to sit on couches, eat potato chips, have
a healthy, unhealthy lifestyle.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
Told them you don't have to work.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
Just pull the lever every four years or two years, right,
and you'll be all best friends and you don't have
to do anything but get fat.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
That's all.
Speaker 5 (23:18):
I want to tell you. That the studies show that
whatever you put into Mandicare, whatever you put in you
get Medicare pays about three times that amount.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
Oh, I would think so, I would think so, Yeah,
I would think.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
So.
Speaker 4 (23:34):
It's a system that almost sounds like it should have
been written by Lewis Carroll, like an addition to Alice
in Wonderland.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
It's the Wizard of Ours, Mike, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (23:46):
It's just it's just incredibly sophomoric in the way that
it doesn't seem to have been written by competent adults.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
Or established it.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
But also Tila, I have also Mike, think about this, We,
as the older guys.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
Paid the real dollar.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
Now, I know you're going to get three times more
for your money, but we paid the real dollar before
it was totally inflated to a nickel.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
Now where we're getting a nickel on a dollar. Let's say,
you know what I mean, it's.
Speaker 5 (24:19):
A good Well I want to just say as well
that the age group that is growing at the fastest
rate by percentage are the centurions. So the centurions, by
the time they get to centurion age have been in
(24:39):
the program for thirty five years, and so you know,
that's a lot of that's a lot of time for
the government to be paying for whatever you need. And
of course the government is running out of money.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Now.
Speaker 5 (24:53):
This is one of the reasons that we have tried.
We had an executive order in twenty nineteen to supper
r social Security access, your access to Social Security from
Medicare enrollment. So in nineteen people don't know that, but
in nineteen ninety three, the Clintons tied the two. I
(25:13):
don't know who. I won't say the Clintons, I'll say
the Clinton administration tied the two together. And now the
Operations Manual of the Social Security Administration says that if
you do not enroll in Medicare, you cannot get your
Social Security benefits. And it also says if you choose
to disenroll from Medicare for whatever reason, like you realize
(25:37):
it's ration in your LifeWay, then you have to pay
back all the Social Security and medical benefits that you
have ever received. No, none of that is a law.
It's not a rule. It was never published. It was
just written. And the people who sued against this in
two thousand and eight during discovery could never figure out
(25:59):
who put it in. But in twenty nineteen, we secured
an executive order from President Trump which said that people
would be allowed to leave Medicare and not lose their
Social Security. But you know what happened right after twenty nineteen,
so that executive order and the rule that was coming
(26:21):
out of it was completely derailed by COVID, and then
Trump didn't get reelected, and then Biden rescinded the order
within the first day or two of his presidency. So
if Trump gets back in, we will go after that again.
It will take us a much less time because we
did have it. At least I would hope that would
be the case. And then in addition to that, we
(26:44):
have the Retirement Freedom Act in Congress, which we first
secured from Senator Jim DeMint in twenty eleven, and every
two years we go after re upping it. And it
depends on who's there, but the whole thing is to
keep it in play because this has to happen. It
has to happen. If you are not free from Medicare,
(27:04):
you will never be free in the exam room because Medicare.
There's a lot of your listeners who are going, well,
you know, I got a long time time in Medicare.
They have no idea that Medicare controls everything that happens
in the exam room for everyone. It controls the doctors.
It mandated that electronic record surveillance system that's in the
(27:26):
exam room. It mandates quality reporting by the doctors according
to the government's idea of quality, and it looks at
all their patients, not just Medicare patients. So Medicare has
been used to manipulate the entire healthcare system to do
what the government wants it to do. So all your
listeners should realize that freedom from Medicare is essential for
(27:47):
health freedom in this country.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
Also, I want to just say this, and most of
these these data things that they or apps they want
you to sign into or whatever, you know that the
healthcare systems have, now what do they call portals?
Speaker 4 (28:02):
Patient portals?
Speaker 1 (28:02):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (28:03):
Yeah, almost every other week they're being hacked, you know
what I mean. And it's like the crowd source thing,
you know, and then they're being hacked, and then they
send your letter in the mail. By the way, here's
a free year of checking your credit and see it
if you're on the dark web. And you know, but
it's almost every week you it's either a credit card
(28:25):
or healthcare system has been hacked. You say to yourself,
how is it that they don't have anybody that can
put in what we have? We have a sponsor on
our show. When you when you go to the website ages,
you know, they tap something into your portal of your
server which blocks what is it almost what nine million
(28:47):
malware things now Mike something like that. Yeah, I mean,
why not spend the money because look, but you know,
here's the thing, twilet, nobody could sue these people, these
data companies that consolid data or your data from the
healthcare system, you can't sue them forgetting hack. I don't
know why, but it's set up like that.
Speaker 5 (29:09):
So I wrote big brother in the exam room, the
dangerous truth about electronic health records and the fact of
the matter that the federal government put us in the
danger zone that we are in. First, they took away
our privacy through HIPPA, and they took away our right
of private action to sue these entities. Instead they can
be hip of violations and then they have to pay
(29:31):
the federal government. They don't have to pay the person
who's data got access right. And then they put in
the electronic health record mandate. So now you don't have
any privacy, you don't have any consent rights over your data,
and now they digitize it all. So of course they
made it available to ransomware attacks, you know, cybersecurity threats.
(29:52):
And all of these doctors around the country, lots of
them are now employees because they could not afford the
electroc a health record mandate. So that's really handy for
those who want to socialize healthcare system. And then of
course it's a surveillance system, tracking system, and control your
doctor system, which is also great for a socialized system.
(30:13):
But all of this was put into place because they
wanted to track the doctors. They wanted to essentially commit
fraud by upcoding people, and you know, putting in a
price for every little thing. So there are different agendas
with the electronic health record, but the agenda has never
been the patient because the patient, the patient is the
(30:35):
one who's being threatened, and actually national security is being
threatened as well. There's a national medical record system called
ehealthexchange dot org. Everybody listening should pick up their phone
and go to ehealthexchange dot org and find out if
your doctor, your clinic, your health plan, your state government
(30:58):
is in the eHealth Exchange. This is being created by
the federal government to be essentially a gateway, a centralized gateway.
It's not all the data is not there. It's a
centralized gateway to the data wherever it is. So somebody
in California who wants your records in Maine, if they
can provide a good reason or they've got a third
(31:20):
party contract because the hippo to get it, even though
you didn't give consent, they can just go through the
eHealth Exchange and grab it in Maine. So this is
where the whole country is going, because of those who
want to socialize healthcare system and because of those who
want to get billions of dollars from our health data
without our consent.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
Final so the heat Health Exchange is not our consent
at all.
Speaker 5 (31:46):
No. Well, we would like though, for states to put
that as state laws. If any legislators are listening to
your program, or any people want to tell their state
legislators that they should have a law that says that
the data cannot be shared through the eHealth Exchange or
a state health exchange health information exchange without their consent.
(32:12):
That would be a wonderful bill in every state.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
You know.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
I was in a meeting I guess two weeks ago
in a law firm's office, listening to some of these
legal brains speak about you know, what's on the radar
screen with adversary nations.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
And one of the things that came up was for this.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
Invest in something that had to do with data or
medical the US government would look very closely at it
on you know, how they could they wouldn't be attached
to adversary nations being able to get into something that
he would going to invest in. Let's say so that
because he said one of the biggest things what they said,
(33:05):
these four or five people said, one of the biggest
things that's happening now is such nations which I won't name,
are trying to get into our electronic systems to see
what our healthcare is all about, meaning the citizen, not
how we operate a healthcare, but get data on us.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
How healthy are we, what's our blood type? You know,
so and so.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
And I was like amazed to listen to this, And
now I'm listening to you today and I'm saying, wow,
all of this ties in.
Speaker 5 (33:36):
Well, our government, our Congress, for their own agendas, have
made us extraordinarily vulnerable.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
Yes, ma'am proposed us.
Speaker 5 (33:47):
To our adversaries in ways that should never have.
Speaker 4 (33:51):
Happened, but was done deliberately. I'm sorry you can only
say that it was done deliberately.
Speaker 5 (33:59):
Well it was. I mean there are different agendas. I
know who was there at the table wanting Hippa to
go into place. I know who was there asking for
the electronic health records. And you know, if they can
convince the politicians through donations or other mechanisms to do
(34:20):
this to us. The politicians have their own agendas, but
a lot of these people who wanted it, they may
or may not have wanted to be a national threat
to the nation, but they saw the ability to get
to a socialized healthcare system. They saw the ability to
do a data grab that would bring them in billions.
(34:42):
And for your listeners to understand what I mean by billions,
there is a statistic out of United Health Group, which
is the largest health plan in the country, actually in
the world. They do operate across overseas as well. They
have a separate data division called optim Insights. And I
(35:02):
believe it was in twenty twenty three when the amount
of money that they made, which all they do is
work with health data. They use, they slice and dice
whatever it is with health data. And I believe that
the amount of money in twenty twenty three was eighteen
point nine billion dollars in revenue.
Speaker 1 (35:22):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
Billion dollars, Mike, you don't even have that.
Speaker 4 (35:26):
No, No, I'm still six seven months away from that.
Speaker 3 (35:30):
Okay, before we close up with her. I want to
talk to her about this Educate Act. Let us know
a little bit about that spiler.
Speaker 5 (35:37):
So the Educate Act is very exciting and should pass.
This is an act that would say that any medical
school in the country who is imposing DEI initiatives on
their teachers or on their students, you know, forcing them
to take some diversity creed or to sign some belief statement,
(36:00):
or imposing classes that teach them about you know, white
privilege or you know, repentance for being white, or whatever
you want to say about all of that. Right, what
this act would say is that the federal government will
withhold all funds from any medical school that does anything
DEI related. And the reason why this is so important
(36:25):
is I think best said by doctor Stanley Goldfarb of
the organization Do No Harm, and he talks about the
fact that the last thing you want is a DEI
doctor because they're dangerous, and the medical schools are teaching
doctors not to be doctors, they're teaching them to be activists.
(36:46):
And one of the things that I like to say
about this is I'm a nurse, so I've seen a
lot of people in the emergency room before I started
this organization. And so the last thing that you want
is for a doctor to be focus on the color
of your skin rather than let's just say, the cancer
ravaging your body. The focus should be on medical helping
(37:10):
the patient be cured, you know, comforted, you know, whatever,
cared for. It should not be anything about trying to
fit some statistics, some dei statistics that the hospital has
to do if the medical school wants to teach or
whatever it is. Right, this is about a patient and
a doctor and the obligation of the doctor to take
(37:30):
care of the patient, no matter what his color, creed,
or any other belief system that he might have. There
should not be any education to differentiate between patients and
how you take care of them.
Speaker 3 (37:42):
It did work for many many years, didn't Mischwila While
you were a nurse.
Speaker 5 (37:47):
I can't say that I ever looked at a patient
of any particular color and said, well, I think i'll
wait for you know, a few hours before you know,
this is just like, no, of course this work. We
didn't do that. We didn't do that.
Speaker 3 (38:01):
Yeah, but you know what, because so many young people,
you know, the younger generation is so brainwashed into so
many things now and you know, since we've had episodes
of you know, tolerance and extra tolerance and more tolerance
and then diversity and more diversity, inequality and brainwashing these
kids that you know, white people are just bad and
(38:24):
maybe you know, I could just give this guy a
shot and take them out, you know, I mean, we
were the most racist country in the world. We voted
for a half black man twice. That you know, you
don't see that in a lot of other countries, but
it happened. And you know, the hatred is just amazing.
But you know what, whoever takes that creed, you know,
(38:44):
I just hope to God that you know, I have
my doctors. I choose it pretty well, you know what
I mean. I know what I'm looking for in a doctor,
and if I if I hear too many questions that
I don't like, I just remove myself. But you could
wrap it up whatever you like to speak about less
it's your floor.
Speaker 1 (39:02):
Go ahead, Then I ask.
Speaker 4 (39:03):
One more equips toilet. Yes, this is such a disaster,
such a morass. It strikes me that it's hiding something.
Who are the winners here at the moment?
Speaker 5 (39:15):
In de I? Who are the winners in DEI?
Speaker 4 (39:20):
Who are the the whole healthcare program.
Speaker 5 (39:23):
Oh I see. Oh well, the winners are those who
want to seize control of the one industry on which
everyone's lives depend. So this is a powerful industry. And
if you can capture all the dollars and capture all
the power, and capture all the data, then you have
(39:46):
you have the ability to control the people, You have
the ability to run the country. I mean, before I
ever started this organization, one of the things that I
said is if they this was with the Clintons. That's
when this organization began. I said, you know, if they
take over health care, they will take over the country.
And we have seen that with COVID. We have seen
just how that works, with COVID using healthcare to control
(40:09):
the people, to scare the people, to lock down the people.
Well it's also to control their doctors and to take
their dollars and everything else. Right, And so the winners
are the politicians, the winners are the deep state, The
winners are the government officials, and the winners are all
the advertisers and those who get the consent of the
(40:30):
government to sell their products. Just like we saw with
the FDA, Pfizer, and Moderna right, they got it, and
they got billions, billions from the taxpayers because the government
said we'll buy your products and will mandate it for everybody. Well,
how handy was that for them? Right? And so those
are the winners. There's different agendas. There's political agendas, there's
(40:53):
power agendas, there's profit agendas, and all of those are
the winners, but not the American people.
Speaker 4 (41:00):
And it's possible, I think, from the way we've spoken
this morning, that is also a tool for reducing the population.
Speaker 5 (41:09):
Yes, well, there are there is that whole cadre of
people who do think that there are too many people
here and we shouldn't give any money to anybody who's
poor or sick or you know, uh doesn't work, or
mentally handicapped. Right, So it's very euthanasia or eugenics can
be very eugenics oriented.
Speaker 3 (41:31):
Yeah, many of these people, many of these people in
power in this country and around the globe, I think
there's just too many people on the earth. So that's
that's another avenue. Twilat is so good talking to you again.
Thank you so much.
Speaker 4 (41:42):
You are a fabulous guest man.
Speaker 5 (41:44):
Thank you so much, glad to be here.
Speaker 4 (41:47):
Thank you, Thank you.
Speaker 5 (41:48):
By bye bye,
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