August 4, 2025 • 34 mins
Remember waiting anxiously by the radio, finger hovering over the record button, ready to capture that perfect song for your mixtape? That deep musical nostalgia kicked off our conversation this week as we explored how our relationship with music has evolved through the decades.
From the ritual of recording songs off B96 and Q101 in Chicago to the innovative CD cases that held our prized music collections, we unpacked the technological journey that's shaped how we experience sound. Remember the excitement of getting a new CD with printed lyrics in the booklet? Our kids will never understand the struggle! Now they simply stare at Alexa and ask for words to any song. The transition from physical media to digital streaming mirrors our own journey from adolescence to adulthood—each phase building on the last while something intangible is left behind.
Between musical reminiscences, we shared tales of extreme weather (including a 24-hour power outage that led to refrigerator food casualties), tested bizarre Panera Bread Mac & Cheese scented lip balm (with dramatically different sensory results), and discovered a new parenting trend called "MAFO" (Mess Around and Find Out). We even explored the curious case of Swingathon Festival in tiny Allington, UK—a three-day adult event that doubles the town's population and raises eyebrows among locals.
What connects these seemingly disparate topics? The thread of shared experience despite our different perspectives. Whether it's disagreeing about food safety after power outages or experiencing the same lip balm completely differently (one of us couldn't smell the cheese at all!), we're constantly reminded that even two people with the same name can have wildly different takes on the world. Subscribe now to join our weekly conversations where no topic is too mundane or too outrageous to explore!
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Hi, thanks for joining us today.
It's Nora, and Nora, we're sureglad you're here.
We are Thanks for tuning inweek after week.
Welcome friends.
Yeah, if this is your firstweek, settle in.
Yes, exactly, get comfy.
We never know what's in store,we never do.
But I do have something fromlast week, you do.
Yes, a clarification from mydad.
Oh gosh, it's like a factchecker.
(00:28):
Okay, because we were talkingabout the wiener drop at the
Joliet Slammers game and we werecurious why Bill Murray would
be there.
Yes, he's part owner of theteam.
Oh, that would make sense.
Thank you, mr Ryan.
So case closed.
Case closed on that.
Yeah, that makes sense.
Before we go any further, howabout our weather?
How about our weather?
(00:50):
Eh, eh, shoot, our weather hasbeen bananas, but it's been a
real mix.
More specifically, when wefinished recording last week, we
ended quite abruptly because ofa storm that was brewing.
Yes, and holy cow.
So I'm interrupting a littlebit.
I get a lot of notifications onmy phone about weather.
(01:12):
You know flash flood warning,beach hazard statement, air
quality alerts, and then youknow thunderstorm warning,
thunderstorm watch, likewhatever, whatever.
And I'm beginning to be kind ofdesensitized to them, because
normally it'll rain or whatever,but it's not anything to write
home about.
(01:33):
This storm was the real deal.
This was the real deal, and youwere kind of a hometown hero.
Both my front and back patioumbrellas were in flight.
I was so not chill about it,though, and I said just let them
go, because the wind waswhirling and the rain was
(01:54):
pouring and it could have beendangerous, and I just think I
yelled no, they're expensive.
That's exactly what you yelled.
I ran outside like a lifeguard.
You did Thank you, ryan thinks.
Outside like a lifeguard.
You did Thank you, ryan thinksso.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
But then you wrangled thebackyard.
One, yes, but that rain.
You got stuck here.
(02:14):
I did get stuck.
You had a shelter in place, andthen your son was at my house.
That was a really bad storm, asignificant one.
Do you care to tell ourlisteners about your power?
So your power went out while Iwas here, and it was out.
What do you think?
10 minutes, five minutes, 10minutes Ours was out for over 24
hours.
That is a long time to bewithout power.
(02:36):
Spoiler, that's my low.
But yeah, it was.
We've never had.
I mean, aren't we lucky?
We've never had power out forthat long before and Al was at
home working.
So he was at home with our fourkids plus one, two, three more
kids.
So he had a lot of kids.
He had a full house, full house.
(02:56):
So then when the storm dieddown, I left your house and I
said get those extra kids ready,I'm going to drive them all
home.
That was really nice.
One of the kids was like why doI have to leave so soon?
Because the weather is bad,it's time to go.
I sent somebody home yesterdayor the day before because the
clouds were dark and he was likewhy?
(03:18):
Because safety first, safetyfirst.
My side of the street, sothere's only three houses on my
four houses, I guess, if youcount the one across the way,
four houses on my side and theyall kept power, but there's
probably six or eight on theother side facing us.
That all lost power.
(03:38):
Our mutual friend who I saw inthe parking lot of Target
yesterday, he told me he endedup just buying a generator.
Yes, that was amazing, it's abig purchase.
That was told me.
He ended up just buying agenerator.
Yes, that was amazing, it's abig purchase.
That was a big purchase.
We just muddled through.
You could hear the generatorson the other side of the street
running, and that's how I knewthat power was still up.
It was random, though, becausewe didn't have power Our little
(03:59):
cluster on one side of thestreet, but then our neighbors
across the street were fine onone side of the street, but then
our neighbors across the streetwere fine.
Yeah, same.
It's a mystery of how the gridworks, so I'm glad power was
restored.
Yes, that was probably rough.
I mean, it was kind of anadventure.
It was hot, it was hot, andit's funny how muscle memory you
are accustomed to walking in aroom and turning the light.
Like how many light switches Iflipped on just out of habit,
(04:22):
these don't work.
I, I flipped on just out ofhabit, these don't work.
I was like oh God, what am Idoing?
I think the biggest pain isyour refrigerator.
We lost, yeah, and that's.
I mean.
The power outage was fine, wereally were fine, but a lot of
food thrown out, because IGoogled it and it said food in
your fridge or freezer.
Four hours after a power outage, you should throw it away.
(04:43):
Our neighbors had a giantcooler.
Oh, and then there was beer ontop.
So we went over Nice and Idisagreed on if it was still
good or not.
I was like I'm not eating anymeat that was in the freezer.
My husband does that, likeduring the week.
I'll be like oh, that's old,don't eat that.
He'll be like why didn't youthrow it out?
(05:04):
Why didn't you throw it out?
And we don't eat it on garbageday.
Yeah, I don't like to throw awhole, half a rotisserie chicken
or whatever in it Likeleftovers and just let them sit
in there.
But he often says like whydidn't you throw them out?
Can't you throw them out?
Like it's fine, it's always athing.
He was like I think it's fine.
I said well then, if you wouldlike to eat that meat, it's all
(05:27):
yours, pal, wait.
That's similar to this newviral parenting trend Eat the
meat, whoa, whoa.
Not to say that you're parentingyour spouse, but they call it
Fafo, fafo, and we can't say thefirst F word on our podcast, so
(05:49):
we'll call it.
I'll call it MAFO.
Okay, mess around, mess aroundand find out.
So it's the idea that you canask or warn, but if someone
chooses and in this case a childchooses to break a rule or
doesn't follow the direction oryour husband, then there's a
natural consequence, for example, like bring a raincoat, grab an
(06:12):
umbrella, and they're like no,no, like well, okay, I warned
you.
Yeah, I asked you.
You don't, well, you'll getdrenched in the storm.
I feel like I do this Same.
I didn't know it had a name.
I didn't know it had a nameeither.
My dad is a trailblazer yes,and this is how I was raised and
I watch him do it with my kids.
(06:33):
Often, yeah, sometimes, myparents are like are you going
to let them do that?
I'm like well, they've beentold.
Yeah, so goodbye helicopterparenting.
Yeah, so goodbye helicopterparenting.
Goodbye snowplow parenting.
Yeah, goodbye gentle parenting.
I like yours better.
Messerana Vido, yeah, so do I.
Mafo, yeah, have you ever heardof the town Allington in the
(06:55):
United Kingdom?
No, ma'am.
Well, nora, for five years now,it has been the home of the
Swingathon Festival.
Oh, I read about that.
I read about that last week,but I didn't say anything
because I didn't know if wecould talk about it.
We're not an explicit podcast,go for it, but okay.
So it's a three-day festival ofabout a thousand people who are
(07:19):
all swingers, and so there aredemonstrations and workshops,
djs, live music, pole dancingclasses, phone parties, dungeons
and, I'm going to say games,games In quotes, adult games.
I believe that it's kind ofcausing a ruckus with noise
complaints, the locals yes, theyhave had noise complaints from
(07:42):
the locals, and this is a townof 897 people, so they're
doubling the size with all theseswingers.
Did you see the pictures of it?
It was so insane.
I didn't see any people, Ididn't see any nudity, but it's
oh hell.
But they just have tents set up.
(08:03):
It just seems dirty so peoplecan couple off.
But it's also because it's in afield.
Yeah, I don't there's so muchwrong with that.
I think so.
But if you keep scrolling, Isaw a trampoline.
Oh, no, no, but I had a questionfor you.
Would I ever just swing at that?
The guy who runs it Gross.
(08:25):
What are you going to ask me?
Would you rather go toSwingathon or the Naked Family
Resort?
Oh, my god, the Swingathon,really.
Yes, I don't want to take myfamily on a Nakey Pie vacation.
At least, at the Nakey Pievacation there's no touching.
Well, I can just choose.
Oh, you can just go to theclasses, I can just go and watch
(08:46):
.
I guess you can go to swing asong.
Would you rather take yourfamily?
Oh, that's true.
I guess you wouldn't have toparticipate.
Just imagine sitting across thetable from Aiden and Roy having
dinner at the Nakey Pie Resortand it's only $250 for three
nights, three days.
I feel like they should charge.
(09:09):
Do you get your own tent?
Probably not Everybody'scuddling, because maybe I'd just
stay inside and read and Iguess you don't have to be naked
.
No, some of the pictures I sawhad people dressed up in very
suggestive costumes, lookinglike body parts.
Okay, interesting.
It says tickets for the FriskyFestival go for around $250.
(09:32):
So you pay $250.
Oh gosh, show up naked or in aninappropriate costume and then
do your thing.
Whatever blows your hair back,costume and then do your thing.
Blows your hair back, and thenyou can learn and meet people
who are like I also love leatherand you can jump on a
trampoline.
(09:52):
You can jump on a trampoline.
It looks very low budget, superlow budget.
It looks like some people havebrought their own rvs.
I think if I had to I thinkyou're right if I had to choose
between the two, I would go tothis rent an rv so I could sleep
in my own space.
Are there like booths and tentsand stuff?
Because I don't see like anyvendors, correct, maybe those
(10:13):
are these trucks, but thosetents must be the coupling zones
.
Oh God, so bizarre, too bad forthe town.
So, and it said it's mostlyelderly people.
I mean, and this is in themiddle of nowhere, this picture,
it's like a drone picture.
So if it's that loud, and thenwhat do you tell people at work
(10:35):
about your weekend?
How was your weekend?
I went camping when?
Allington?
Oh, really, you had that on theready.
Are you sure you haven't beento something like this before?
100% sure I'm an improver, butanyways, I would much rather try
(10:56):
, although maybe I wouldn't.
As promised, they're here.
It's here early, it came early.
This is the Holler and Glowbrand Panera Bread Smack and
Cheese Scented Lip Balms.
This is so gross, it's sodisgusting.
Let's smell it.
So this is what I'm thinking weneed to put one on top and one
(11:16):
on the bottom, because there'stwo.
It's a duo and it comes with alittle spoon.
They look like eggs, they do.
The packaging is cute.
I'll give them that.
One is scented like a breadbowl and then one is scented.
Let me see if I can tell.
Oh, one is scented.
Oh, that's gross.
Like mac and cheese.
That one's kind of broken.
Oh my God, yeah, this kind ofsmells like bread.
(11:43):
What is this smell like?
Oh, I smelled that one already.
Oh, geez, doing it again.
So, oh my gosh, there's a spoon.
There's a little spoon.
That's what I was saying.
The packaging is very cute, so Iwas going to just take a little
.
What are you doing?
Oh, that's how, no way.
Well, we got to try it.
All right, you gotta try it.
(12:06):
All right here, nora, try alittle bread.
Uh, where are you going?
Bread on the bottom.
I just want I don't want to trythem together.
Well, I think you're supposedto, because it's a bread bowl
for mac and cheese, right, allright, oh, how'd I do?
Are we gonna wait to try themtogether?
Oh yeah, oh, it hasn't.
It applies smoothly, all right.
So for the bread, one's not bad.
It definitely smells like bread, though I can't smell it Really
(12:28):
.
Is there something wrong withmy?
Do you need that?
Thank you, is there somethingwrong with my sniffer?
I don't think so.
Oh, this is a big wet wipe here.
We can share this.
We don't need the?
Well, I don't think we should.
I will say it's a very nicequality lip gloss.
It is All right.
Should I wipe this out.
Oh, the spoon.
Yeah, maybe, okay, let's goahead.
(12:49):
My daughter wanted to try it.
I was like, well, no, mrsWestphal and I are trying it
first.
Pretty shorter, all right.
Oh, here you can go first.
This is so sick.
Yeah, the's pretty gross.
This is like putting moldycheese on your lips.
Oh, it smells so bad.
(13:11):
Cheese whiz.
It's like easy cheese.
Yeah, did you put it on?
No, oh my God, this is so gross.
Oh my God, this is disgusting.
I can't even do it because I'mlaughing.
Uh-uh, no, no, no, no, uh-uh,uh-uh.
I don't care if wet wipes arenot for For your face.
Oh my God, no, no, I can'tsmell it on my mouth.
(13:34):
You can't, no, what?
What is wrong with me?
You can't smell it.
I need to cleanse the palatewith a cheese sour patch kit.
No, I don't.
I don't smell it at all.
I mean, I smelled it in thecontainer.
Wait, no, I don't really smellthis one.
Did the wet wipe?
Maybe that affected it?
No, how come I can't smell thecheese?
(13:55):
Oh my gosh, no, I can't.
You have opposite noses.
I can smell the bread more thanI can smell it.
All the mac and cheese?
The mac and cheese smells likemoldy cheese.
I don't smell it at all, didyou at first?
No, I did the bread first, justlike you.
I'd love to take a littlepicture.
I can't smell the bread.
The bread smells like a crayon.
(14:16):
Oh see, that's what that smellslike to me.
That's so weird, all right.
So, mom, no, stop smelling.
I just want to make sure it'sstill smelled.
It's cute packaging, yeah, andI like the lip gloss.
It feels good.
Yeah, I'd use the bread.
No problem, because it doesn't.
You can have the bread if youwant.
No, no, no.
I think this is way better thanLipolte, way, 100% better than
(14:39):
Lipolte.
Everything, anything's betterthan Lipolte.
I don't have enough time to doLipolte, where you can only get
this online, I believe.
So I got it through Amazon, oh,but yeah, did it sell out?
Like, is it a big?
So I guess you're just tryingto be funny and different
Because you love Panera.
If you are like, can you imagineif you?
What?
If you were at the swing-a-thonand someone's like, did you see
(15:02):
?
I smell cheese.
I smell cheese.
I'm just kidding.
So gross, oh, my God, that isreally gross.
Anywho, well, thank you fortrying it.
We have tried worse things, oryou think this is pretty bad.
The kale chips were the worst.
That tasted like ocean.
Yeah yeah, that was not good.
Um, should we check in with oursponsor and regroup?
(15:23):
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(16:08):
And now back to the show.
Our topic today is music, butmore specifically listening to
music, how we enjoy music,because we've already talked
sometimes about concerts andthings.
What I realized when you didour intro to this segment is
that we did not compare notes,zero notes, so I'm not entirely
(16:29):
sure which direction you went orwhat you have to share.
So here we go.
You start because you havecomprehensive notes.
Well, I just started with thefirst way I started listening to
music, which was mixtapes inthe radio, and I went kind of
nostalgic.
Did you call into the radiowhen you were a kid?
We tried.
We wouldn't always get through,but we would try.
(16:51):
To request a song, yeah, andthen you'd record it while they
played it.
You'd have your blank tape likeat the ready, yeah, and then
you'd record it while theyplayed it.
You'd have your blank tape atthe ready Mm-hmm, yeah, and then
you'd hope that the DJ didn'tstart talking.
Talk over it.
Yeah, I was actually thinkingof that the other day because I
was listening to XM radio, butit's like a station out of Miami
and I've always been amazed howthe DJs would know how to talk,
(17:16):
like how long to talk, for itwould be like they would
perfectly talk over the introand then stop right when the
lyrics would come in.
I guess that's their job.
That's a trick of the trade.
Maybe Can you remember theradio stations you listened to
as a kid.
I listened to B96.
That was a big one.
100.3 I would listen to.
(17:38):
104.3 was the oldies station.
Yep, I remember that well, Iwas a big oldies listener.
Yeah, not me so much, but everyonce in a while I'd be like I
have a great oldies mixtape.
Do you remember how great I wasin?
Scan came to be, I don't know,scan.
And then it would just like oh,oh, scan, scan, yes, like on
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the radio, like in the car, yes,seek and scan, be like this is
great.
And then you'd be like hit itagain.
Yes, I'm surprised you didn'tlist Q101.
That was popular.
Yes, that was like thealternative station.
That was good.
Yeah, that 101 and b96 is stillgoing strong today.
(18:23):
It is um, as is my countrystation in arizona, 102.5 and
power 92 was a big one.
It was like the b96 of arizona,yeah, and the 99.9 still has
the same dj it did when we werekids.
No way, it was beth and bill,built since past, but beth is
still beth and friends.
Beth and friends, yeah, andthat vote.
Whenever I hear her, it's sonostalgic it.
No way.
It was Beth and Bill, billsince past, but Beth is still
Beth and Friends.
She's still Beth and Friends,yeah, and that, whenever I hear
her, it's so nostalgic.
It brings me right back to thelate 80s.
(18:43):
My mom used to listen to 95.5,which was W-N-U-A.
What was smooth jazz.
It was like W-N-U-A 95.5.
Smooth jazz Did you work forthem?
That was very good, because shewouldn't let us change the
station.
She was like, if I'm driving,it was very rare that she would
(19:05):
let us pick the station or thechannel.
And I tell you what I wouldnever, ever, if she did, let me
pick this song for channel.
There was a song that I knewwas like inappropriate, I was
not keeping it on there.
My children who think it'sfunny.
I love that.
Our kids are listening to musicthat they hear on TikTok,
thinking it's new music, whenreally it's old music.
(19:26):
I love that when they're likehow do you know this song?
Yeah, right, and speaking ofmixtapes, let's go back to that
for a second.
Do you remember how long itwould take to make them?
It was like an all night event,like a sleepover event.
It was huge because you had to.
I mean so how long is a mixtape?
Maybe an hour, yeah, each side.
So you would have to.
(19:47):
It's not like you could justdownload it.
You had to wait for it torecord from a CD or from another
tape.
Oh, I forgot, you could recordit from a CD.
I was just thinking about thedouble disc players, the double
cassette players yeah, yeah,when you could record from a CD,
it was like, yeah, that wasgreat.
(20:08):
I loved the bodyguard tape.
That was one of the first CDs Iever bought.
But what I didn't realize wasit was the number one best
selling cassette tape of alltime yes, best-selling cassette
tape of all time yes, so I guessother people like it too.
That was a great album.
I feel like my.
I've always listened to music,like my mom would always have
music on, like if she was doinghousework.
She had this great.
(20:28):
My parents still have it, thisgigantic.
They use it as their TV standrecord player.
It's a stereo.
It has a record player and an8-track oh, cool, and do you
still use it?
No, because the tv is on it now.
But it's this massive piece offurniture and she would have
records going when she wascleaning the house.
But I used to do the read-alongbooks because I had a fisher
(20:50):
price record player and youwould put the records on and
then the book did it have anorange needle?
Yeah, yes, and a brown case?
Yeah, yeah, I still have mine.
It's at my parents' house.
It still works.
Did she save your records?
I have some records left.
Yeah, oh, that's kind of cool,it's me.
Have you shown it to Rose?
(21:11):
I did, she loved it.
Yeah, brown, oh, yeah, like mybaby's first boombox and that
was like read along books andtapes that was.
You could play tapes in thattoo.
That was great you could record.
My sister and I used to try tolike record people's
conversations.
We recorded an episode of PeeWee Herman, where I was the
mailman and Jane Mittendorf wasPee Wee Herman, and we used her
(21:35):
dresser drawer as bunk beds.
Pee Wee Jane invited themailman in for a sleepover, as
one night Sounds like somethingyou were like I don't know what
happened.
All of a sudden the mailman'ssleeping in my room Don't tell
Ryan.
And then we got into thedresser, used the dresser
drawers as bunk beds, uh-oh, andthe dresser fell over.
(21:56):
Used the dresser drawers asbunk beds, uh-oh, and the
dresser fell over.
Oh, no, as it would if twochildren were in it.
And from the downstairs, likefrom a distance, you hear Mrs
Mittendorf yell Jee-hee, jee-hee, and then you hear me say oh,
jane, I think I have to go home,like I'm out of here.
And that tape was the greatestrecording.
(22:19):
Oh, because you had it on tapeand I don't know whatever
happened to it because it wasrecorded from the Fisher-Price
recorder.
We loved Pee Wee's Playhouse.
I just showed it to Kevin thethe other day.
It's on amazon, yeah, prime tv,whatever and he was like this
is really weird.
(22:40):
I was like, oh, it's superweird.
My brother had the toys.
He had a peewee's playhouse setwith all the figurines.
It was amazing and we used torecord episodes of it and that
because we didn't have a videocamera and so we would play the
tape of us recorded it and thenwe would act out, have a video
camera and so we would play thetape of us recorded and then we
would act out the people playwith the feet.
That was cool, good, so cool.
(23:00):
Oh my gosh.
Do you remember burning cds asyou got older?
Yeah, in college.
Yeah, that was like a freshmanyear favorite, but that took a
long time because Because itdownloaded so slowly, so slow.
Also, it might have beenslightly illegal.
Definitely Napster, napster,all those.
(23:20):
My friend Dave was very on theball with stuff like that, so I
feel like I tried to do it andthen I would just be like I
would like these 12 songs.
So I was really on the ballwith that.
I had an external cd burner andthen we'd buy a stack of blank
cds and a sharpie to write allthe tracks on there.
I still have them all, do you?
(23:42):
Well, I remember like with likewhen ipods and like all that
and you could burn your own cd,like you could load your cds
into itunes.
Yeah, just like the first time,just like going through every
single one of my CDs and tryingto get those on my computer so I
could have it on my iPod.
I was slow to warm with theiPod, really.
(24:03):
Yeah, I was a huge fan of theDiscman and the long disc.
I didn't realize the Discmandidn't come to be a thing until
1979.
See, that to me seems early.
Oh, it does.
Yes, because I was still.
I don't think I got a Discmanuntil the 90s.
Yeah, because I didn't have CDsuntil 1992.
Yeah, weezer was my first CD.
(24:24):
I love it.
The blue yeah, it's so goodBecause I had the coolest CD
case ever.
You did, yes, my sister's friendhad an internship at Mead and
got it and it was a circle andit unclipped on one side and
like accordion opened and youcould fit like 15 CDs and then
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you flipped it on the other sideand it opened on the other side
and you could put 15 more.
That is the coolest CD caseever.
So I could fit 30 CDs in there,could put 15 more.
That is the coolest.
So I put 30 cds in there.
And then so I so, when I wasliving in new york and riding
the subway, had my, my meadcontainer of cds and then my
disc man commuting to workkilling it.
Remember in the car when youwould put the cds on the visor.
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So I never had one because Inever drove, I never had my own.
That was a cool thing.
But my friend had that and Iwas like, because then it was so
easy access.
Yeah, I'm just grabbing, see,yeah, not messing around the
cases.
I got them all.
Did you have them alphabetizedor in a certain order?
Okay, no, no, absolutely not.
I'm like, think of theorganization that could have
happened Just all thrown.
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But now when my kids get in thecar, my daughter will say, oh,
let me make a cue real quick.
Oh, even though she has Ihaven't dabbled with that Even
though she has a playlist like amile long, she'll build a cue
before we get in the car.
That's cool.
I think Rory does that.
I tend to.
Either lately I've been justpicking an artist and shuffling
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songs by one artist, or I'llpick a specific album.
I usually let the kids choosein the car because we have to
like rotate, though, we'll belike, okay, aiden and then Rory,
then Kevin and then Rose.
Oh, that's nice.
Elle always jumps in the frontseat and I think Mike is just
like whatever, really.
Yeah, that's nice.
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Yeah, my kids fight over it.
So now we have if it's an oddday, it's Aiden and Kevin, if
it's an even day, it's Rory,because their birthdays are even
and odd days.
Oh, that's a good way to do it.
Yeah, I think Mike picks hisbattles with her.
Yeah and yeah, but that's kindof nice.
Yeah, you don't have to worryabout it.
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I was telling my kids too howexciting it would be to get a CD
or a tape, and it had thelyrics in it.
I was thinking about thatBecause Rose, the other day, was
like staring at our Alexa.
I'm like, what are you doing?
And music was playing.
She's like I'm trying to learnthe words.
That's too easy.
I was like, oh God, you have iteasy.
Yeah, too easy.
(26:52):
I remember like sitting thereand like trying to learn the
Blues Traveler song, oh yes,like the really fast part, or
like the Barenaked Ladies oh,that's what it was.
Yeah, one week like trying tolearn all those lyrics.
We saw them, remember, we did.
That was last summer.
We saw them Like we ran intothem at McDonald's.
Oh yeah, we had dinner withthem.
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Yeah, we totally did.
We saw them perform, yeah, atthe zoo last year.
That was fun.
Remember the best part aboutthat?
I mean not the best part when Igot left at the zoo, when I
walked down the, when I ended upat like a bar slash, slot
machine slash With Ryan and Al.
Yeah, because, yeah, because Aljust left me at the zoo.
I remember walking down theroad but did you say no, he
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didn't tell me he was leaving,no, he just left.
He left me.
I feel like I would have saidwhere's Nora?
Yeah, I don't know.
Did you pick us up at thatshady bar slot machine candy
store?
No, because I was kind of madat him, that's fair.
And then I don't know, no, youguys somehow made it to where we
were and so I was like leftthere, wait, but where is my
husband?
Where did he go.
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Do you think that has anythingto do with the fact that the
beer vendor thought that you gotfree refills?
Did you ever hear this story?
No, so, listeners, I'm sorryI'm going off on a tangent and
we can certainly end this out.
We got to figure this out.
So there was.
You know where we were sittingoriginally.
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Mark got us those seats.
So if you went up closer to thestage and to the left there was
a beer vendor and, listeners, wehad those silver, not
refillable cups, but likedisposable cups and the beer
vendor in the back thought theywere free refills.
What?
There was two vendors and oneof the guys was giving free
refills and then one of themwasn't.
And then at the end we went forkind of like a last call kind
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of situation and the guy whowasn't giving free refills said
to the guy who was man, what areyou doing?
He's like oh, I thought it wasfree refills, I didn't know that
.
No, man, it's not.
So, yeah, so you and Al and Ryanwere getting free refills and
then left me at the zoo.
I'm totally over it, it's fine.
Wait, why did I get lost in theleft?
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Maybe you don't want to walk.
You guys were going to walk andI was like that's silly.
And then I said I think I'mgoing to wait for an Uber.
And then Al just left with youand Ryan, I should have waited
for an Uber.
And then I ended up having toclimb a fence, I think with a
friend of ours, and then we allended up at the same bar.
We ended up at the same bar.
But, yeah, you guys had anadventure, because you guys
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walked the wrong way.
Yeah, to the candy shop.
Slash slot machine, slash bar,slash Bible thumper running the
place.
It was weird.
It was so weird, so weird, yes,anyways.
Yeah, music makes my day better.
I listen to music constantly.
If I have to get work done, Ilisten to music.
If I'm in the shower, I listento music.
You listen to music.
In the shower, I do, and then Ido.
(29:43):
If I need to get work done.
I will listen to a podcast now,though, but I know some people
do not work well with music on.
Al does not like to have musicon.
I do not like to have music onwhen I'm thinking, yeah, and it
helps me think better.
Oh, isn't that interesting.
Everybody's different,different noses, different, same
name, different, different waysof doing things.
(30:03):
You know there's more than oneway to skin a cat.
I will seek your word for it.
Is that true?
I don't know.
I would think how many otherpossible ways could there be.
I think there's only one way,and is skinning a cat.
I don't know.
That's not something I don'twant to find out.
No, thank you, I'm sure wecould probably.
No, I don't want to Google.
I don't want to Google that.
(30:24):
No, don't skin a cat.
Just keep the skin on and justaccept people's differences and
differences and listen to music.
Don't skin a cat.
Listen to our podcast.
Oh, lordy, why would you haveto skin a cat?
Yeah, right, yeah, who's doingthat?
(30:44):
We're looking up this expression.
Where did this come from Rightnow?
Well, no, we can do it for nextweek.
Next week, we'll be coming toyou via Zoom.
Yes, I will be in New York, youwill be here, but we'll be
coming to you via zoom.
Yes, I will be in new york, youwill be here, but we'll still
have an episode for ourlisteners and I will find out.
Where did that or you could do,where did that expression come
from and why one would need acat?
(31:06):
No, yeah, get a parka.
You don't need a fur to keepwarm.
Get a sweatshirt.
Get a sweatshirt.
Get a fur.
Oh, no, don't, don't get itSynthetic fur.
Yeah, a joke, let's go toHighland Low.
Yeah, let's do it.
Let's stop talking about this.
My low is our power outage.
(31:26):
Uniform exchange at school.
Oh, I have so many bags ofuniforms that I need to donate.
Shoot, and I missed it.
Do you have jumpers?
No, I have skirts.
Okay, that's all right, butthank you for all my pants.
You're welcome, or nothing.
(31:47):
Pants for your child from mychildren, yes, well, yeah, no,
you're welcome.
I was happy to, I appreciate it.
Six pairs of pants, my high,and I know you're going to like
this.
Okay, I went to the car washyesterday.
Oh, my gosh, my poor minivan.
Her name is Muffin and she wasso dirty because of all the
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construction inside and out.
You have so much dust at yourhouse, there's so much dust, and
I brought Clorox wipes.
I brought a Swiffer with me andI did the whole inside.
I used the air gun and sprayedall the crevices of the car.
I used their cleaner for theinside windows.
I think you do a better jobwhen you do it yourself.
(32:32):
Yeah, because you don't want toknow what I found.
In one of the backseat pockets,so the seat behind shotgun you
found an incrustable.
I found one Portillo's chickenfinger in a box.
Oh my God, barf, was itpreserved?
It was fine.
Yeah, I mean, I know you didn't.
Yeah, it wasn't like moldy oranything, but I was like I like
(32:54):
let out like an audible.
Oh my God, this is disgusting.
I wonder how long it had beenthere.
What the heck it's been so hot.
It was like it stayed warm.
It was.
Yeah, it was still.
It was still fresh, no, gross.
But I'm so happy the car is soclean.
I'm happy for you because Ilove that feeling.
It's pretty great.
And then Al went this morningand washed his car.
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It seems to me he's a littlejealous.
How about you?
My high is, all four of my kidswere home last night by 8.45 pm.
I don't know why everybody washome early, but they were and
nobody went back out.
So I slept soundly from like8.45 on.
Oh, you got a good night'ssleep.
(33:36):
Yeah, because usually the olderkids have to be home by 11.
And usually they get home at10.59.
So I don't really fall asleepeven though I'm in my bed.
Yeah, because you want to knowwhat your people are accounted
for.
So I was thrilled that even theyounger guys were home by then.
It was good to have all mypeople in one place and a good
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night's sleep.
That does feel good.
Yeah, all righty.
Well, thanks for joining ustoday.
Yeah, and come back next week.
Yep, bye.
Hi, thanks for joining us today.
It's Nora, and Nora, we're sureglad you're here.
We are Thanks for tuning inweek after week.
Welcome friends.
Yeah, if this is your firstweek, settle in.
Yes, exactly, get comfy.
We never know what's in store,we never do.
But I do have something fromlast week, you do.
Yes, a clarification from mydad.
Oh gosh, it's like a factchecker.
(00:28):
Okay, because we were talkingabout the wiener drop at the
Joliet Slammers game and we werecurious why Bill Murray would
be there.
Yes, he's part owner of theteam.
Oh, that would make sense.
Thank you, mr Ryan.
So case closed.
Case closed on that.
Yeah, that makes sense.
Before we go any further, howabout our weather?
How about our weather?
(00:50):
Eh, eh, shoot, our weather hasbeen bananas, but it's been a
real mix.
More specifically, when wefinished recording last week, we
ended quite abruptly because ofa storm that was brewing.
Yes, and holy cow.
So I'm interrupting a littlebit.
I get a lot of notifications onmy phone about weather.
(01:12):
You know flash flood warning,beach hazard statement, air
quality alerts, and then youknow thunderstorm warning,
thunderstorm watch, likewhatever, whatever.
And I'm beginning to be kind ofdesensitized to them, because
normally it'll rain or whatever,but it's not anything to write
home about.
(01:33):
This storm was the real deal.
This was the real deal, and youwere kind of a hometown hero.
Both my front and back patioumbrellas were in flight.
I was so not chill about it,though, and I said just let them
go, because the wind waswhirling and the rain was
(01:54):
pouring and it could have beendangerous, and I just think I
yelled no, they're expensive.
That's exactly what you yelled.
I ran outside like a lifeguard.
You did Thank you, ryan thinks.
Outside like a lifeguard.
You did Thank you, ryan thinksso.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
But then you wrangled thebackyard.
One, yes, but that rain.
You got stuck here.
(02:14):
I did get stuck.
You had a shelter in place, andthen your son was at my house.
That was a really bad storm, asignificant one.
Do you care to tell ourlisteners about your power?
So your power went out while Iwas here, and it was out.
What do you think?
10 minutes, five minutes, 10minutes Ours was out for over 24
hours.
That is a long time to bewithout power.
(02:36):
Spoiler, that's my low.
But yeah, it was.
We've never had.
I mean, aren't we lucky?
We've never had power out forthat long before and Al was at
home working.
So he was at home with our fourkids plus one, two, three more
kids.
So he had a lot of kids.
He had a full house, full house.
(02:56):
So then when the storm dieddown, I left your house and I
said get those extra kids ready,I'm going to drive them all
home.
That was really nice.
One of the kids was like why doI have to leave so soon?
Because the weather is bad,it's time to go.
I sent somebody home yesterdayor the day before because the
clouds were dark and he was likewhy?
(03:18):
Because safety first, safetyfirst.
My side of the street, sothere's only three houses on my
four houses, I guess, if youcount the one across the way,
four houses on my side and theyall kept power, but there's
probably six or eight on theother side facing us.
That all lost power.
(03:38):
Our mutual friend who I saw inthe parking lot of Target
yesterday, he told me he endedup just buying a generator.
Yes, that was amazing, it's abig purchase.
That was told me.
He ended up just buying agenerator.
Yes, that was amazing, it's abig purchase.
That was a big purchase.
We just muddled through.
You could hear the generatorson the other side of the street
running, and that's how I knewthat power was still up.
It was random, though, becausewe didn't have power Our little
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cluster on one side of thestreet, but then our neighbors
across the street were fine onone side of the street, but then
our neighbors across the streetwere fine.
Yeah, same.
It's a mystery of how the gridworks, so I'm glad power was
restored.
Yes, that was probably rough.
I mean, it was kind of anadventure.
It was hot, it was hot, andit's funny how muscle memory you
are accustomed to walking in aroom and turning the light.
Like how many light switches Iflipped on just out of habit,
(04:22):
these don't work.
I, I flipped on just out ofhabit, these don't work.
I was like oh God, what am Idoing?
I think the biggest pain isyour refrigerator.
We lost, yeah, and that's.
I mean.
The power outage was fine, wereally were fine, but a lot of
food thrown out, because IGoogled it and it said food in
your fridge or freezer.
Four hours after a power outage, you should throw it away.
(04:43):
Our neighbors had a giantcooler.
Oh, and then there was beer ontop.
So we went over Nice and Idisagreed on if it was still
good or not.
I was like I'm not eating anymeat that was in the freezer.
My husband does that, likeduring the week.
I'll be like oh, that's old,don't eat that.
He'll be like why didn't youthrow it out?
(05:04):
Why didn't you throw it out?
And we don't eat it on garbageday.
Yeah, I don't like to throw awhole, half a rotisserie chicken
or whatever in it Likeleftovers and just let them sit
in there.
But he often says like whydidn't you throw them out?
Can't you throw them out?
Like it's fine, it's always athing.
He was like I think it's fine.
I said well then, if you wouldlike to eat that meat, it's all
(05:27):
yours, pal, wait.
That's similar to this newviral parenting trend Eat the
meat, whoa, whoa.
Not to say that you're parentingyour spouse, but they call it
Fafo, fafo, and we can't say thefirst F word on our podcast, so
(05:49):
we'll call it.
I'll call it MAFO.
Okay, mess around, mess aroundand find out.
So it's the idea that you canask or warn, but if someone
chooses and in this case a childchooses to break a rule or
doesn't follow the direction oryour husband, then there's a
natural consequence, for example, like bring a raincoat, grab an
(06:12):
umbrella, and they're like no,no, like well, okay, I warned
you.
Yeah, I asked you.
You don't, well, you'll getdrenched in the storm.
I feel like I do this Same.
I didn't know it had a name.
I didn't know it had a nameeither.
My dad is a trailblazer yes,and this is how I was raised and
I watch him do it with my kids.
(06:33):
Often, yeah, sometimes, myparents are like are you going
to let them do that?
I'm like well, they've beentold.
Yeah, so goodbye helicopterparenting.
Yeah, so goodbye helicopterparenting.
Goodbye snowplow parenting.
Yeah, goodbye gentle parenting.
I like yours better.
Messerana Vido, yeah, so do I.
Mafo, yeah, have you ever heardof the town Allington in the
(06:55):
United Kingdom?
No, ma'am.
Well, nora, for five years now,it has been the home of the
Swingathon Festival.
Oh, I read about that.
I read about that last week,but I didn't say anything
because I didn't know if wecould talk about it.
We're not an explicit podcast,go for it, but okay.
So it's a three-day festival ofabout a thousand people who are
(07:19):
all swingers, and so there aredemonstrations and workshops,
djs, live music, pole dancingclasses, phone parties, dungeons
and, I'm going to say games,games In quotes, adult games.
I believe that it's kind ofcausing a ruckus with noise
complaints, the locals yes, theyhave had noise complaints from
(07:42):
the locals, and this is a townof 897 people, so they're
doubling the size with all theseswingers.
Did you see the pictures of it?
It was so insane.
I didn't see any people, Ididn't see any nudity, but it's
oh hell.
But they just have tents set up.
(08:03):
It just seems dirty so peoplecan couple off.
But it's also because it's in afield.
Yeah, I don't there's so muchwrong with that.
I think so.
But if you keep scrolling, Isaw a trampoline.
Oh, no, no, but I had a questionfor you.
Would I ever just swing at that?
The guy who runs it Gross.
(08:25):
What are you going to ask me?
Would you rather go toSwingathon or the Naked Family
Resort?
Oh, my god, the Swingathon,really.
Yes, I don't want to take myfamily on a Nakey Pie vacation.
At least, at the Nakey Pievacation there's no touching.
Well, I can just choose.
Oh, you can just go to theclasses, I can just go and watch
(08:46):
.
I guess you can go to swing asong.
Would you rather take yourfamily?
Oh, that's true.
I guess you wouldn't have toparticipate.
Just imagine sitting across thetable from Aiden and Roy having
dinner at the Nakey Pie Resortand it's only $250 for three
nights, three days.
I feel like they should charge.
(09:09):
Do you get your own tent?
Probably not Everybody'scuddling, because maybe I'd just
stay inside and read and Iguess you don't have to be naked
.
No, some of the pictures I sawhad people dressed up in very
suggestive costumes, lookinglike body parts.
Okay, interesting.
It says tickets for the FriskyFestival go for around $250.
(09:32):
So you pay $250.
Oh gosh, show up naked or in aninappropriate costume and then
do your thing.
Whatever blows your hair back,costume and then do your thing.
Blows your hair back, and thenyou can learn and meet people
who are like I also love leatherand you can jump on a
trampoline.
(09:52):
You can jump on a trampoline.
It looks very low budget, superlow budget.
It looks like some people havebrought their own rvs.
I think if I had to I thinkyou're right if I had to choose
between the two, I would go tothis rent an rv so I could sleep
in my own space.
Are there like booths and tentsand stuff?
Because I don't see like anyvendors, correct, maybe those
(10:13):
are these trucks, but thosetents must be the coupling zones
.
Oh God, so bizarre, too bad forthe town.
So, and it said it's mostlyelderly people.
I mean, and this is in themiddle of nowhere, this picture,
it's like a drone picture.
So if it's that loud, and thenwhat do you tell people at work
(10:35):
about your weekend?
How was your weekend?
I went camping when?
Allington?
Oh, really, you had that on theready.
Are you sure you haven't beento something like this before?
100% sure I'm an improver, butanyways, I would much rather try
(10:56):
, although maybe I wouldn't.
As promised, they're here.
It's here early, it came early.
This is the Holler and Glowbrand Panera Bread Smack and
Cheese Scented Lip Balms.
This is so gross, it's sodisgusting.
Let's smell it.
So this is what I'm thinking weneed to put one on top and one
(11:16):
on the bottom, because there'stwo.
It's a duo and it comes with alittle spoon.
They look like eggs, they do.
The packaging is cute.
I'll give them that.
One is scented like a breadbowl and then one is scented.
Let me see if I can tell.
Oh, one is scented.
Oh, that's gross.
Like mac and cheese.
That one's kind of broken.
Oh my God, yeah, this kind ofsmells like bread.
(11:43):
What is this smell like?
Oh, I smelled that one already.
Oh, geez, doing it again.
So, oh my gosh, there's a spoon.
There's a little spoon.
That's what I was saying.
The packaging is very cute, so Iwas going to just take a little
.
What are you doing?
Oh, that's how, no way.
Well, we got to try it.
All right, you gotta try it.
(12:06):
All right here, nora, try alittle bread.
Uh, where are you going?
Bread on the bottom.
I just want I don't want to trythem together.
Well, I think you're supposedto, because it's a bread bowl
for mac and cheese, right, allright, oh, how'd I do?
Are we gonna wait to try themtogether?
Oh yeah, oh, it hasn't.
It applies smoothly, all right.
So for the bread, one's not bad.
It definitely smells like bread, though I can't smell it Really
(12:28):
.
Is there something wrong withmy?
Do you need that?
Thank you, is there somethingwrong with my sniffer?
I don't think so.
Oh, this is a big wet wipe here.
We can share this.
We don't need the?
Well, I don't think we should.
I will say it's a very nicequality lip gloss.
It is All right.
Should I wipe this out.
Oh, the spoon.
Yeah, maybe, okay, let's goahead.
(12:49):
My daughter wanted to try it.
I was like, well, no, mrsWestphal and I are trying it
first.
Pretty shorter, all right.
Oh, here you can go first.
This is so sick.
Yeah, the's pretty gross.
This is like putting moldycheese on your lips.
Oh, it smells so bad.
(13:11):
Cheese whiz.
It's like easy cheese.
Yeah, did you put it on?
No, oh my God, this is so gross.
Oh my God, this is disgusting.
I can't even do it because I'mlaughing.
Uh-uh, no, no, no, no, uh-uh,uh-uh.
I don't care if wet wipes arenot for For your face.
Oh my God, no, no, I can'tsmell it on my mouth.
(13:34):
You can't, no, what?
What is wrong with me?
You can't smell it.
I need to cleanse the palatewith a cheese sour patch kit.
No, I don't.
I don't smell it at all.
I mean, I smelled it in thecontainer.
Wait, no, I don't really smellthis one.
Did the wet wipe?
Maybe that affected it?
No, how come I can't smell thecheese?
(13:55):
Oh my gosh, no, I can't.
You have opposite noses.
I can smell the bread more thanI can smell it.
All the mac and cheese?
The mac and cheese smells likemoldy cheese.
I don't smell it at all, didyou at first?
No, I did the bread first, justlike you.
I'd love to take a littlepicture.
I can't smell the bread.
The bread smells like a crayon.
(14:16):
Oh see, that's what that smellslike to me.
That's so weird, all right.
So, mom, no, stop smelling.
I just want to make sure it'sstill smelled.
It's cute packaging, yeah, andI like the lip gloss.
It feels good.
Yeah, I'd use the bread.
No problem, because it doesn't.
You can have the bread if youwant.
No, no, no.
I think this is way better thanLipolte, way, 100% better than
(14:39):
Lipolte.
Everything, anything's betterthan Lipolte.
I don't have enough time to doLipolte, where you can only get
this online, I believe.
So I got it through Amazon, oh,but yeah, did it sell out?
Like, is it a big?
So I guess you're just tryingto be funny and different
Because you love Panera.
If you are like, can you imagineif you?
What?
If you were at the swing-a-thonand someone's like, did you see
(15:02):
?
I smell cheese.
I smell cheese.
I'm just kidding.
So gross, oh, my God, that isreally gross.
Anywho, well, thank you fortrying it.
We have tried worse things, oryou think this is pretty bad.
The kale chips were the worst.
That tasted like ocean.
Yeah yeah, that was not good.
Um, should we check in with oursponsor and regroup?
(15:23):
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(16:08):
And now back to the show.
Our topic today is music, butmore specifically listening to
music, how we enjoy music,because we've already talked
sometimes about concerts andthings.
What I realized when you didour intro to this segment is
that we did not compare notes,zero notes, so I'm not entirely
(16:29):
sure which direction you went orwhat you have to share.
So here we go.
You start because you havecomprehensive notes.
Well, I just started with thefirst way I started listening to
music, which was mixtapes inthe radio, and I went kind of
nostalgic.
Did you call into the radiowhen you were a kid?
We tried.
We wouldn't always get through,but we would try.
(16:51):
To request a song, yeah, andthen you'd record it while they
played it.
You'd have your blank tape likeat the ready, yeah, and then
you'd record it while theyplayed it.
You'd have your blank tape atthe ready Mm-hmm, yeah, and then
you'd hope that the DJ didn'tstart talking.
Talk over it.
Yeah, I was actually thinkingof that the other day because I
was listening to XM radio, butit's like a station out of Miami
and I've always been amazed howthe DJs would know how to talk,
(17:16):
like how long to talk, for itwould be like they would
perfectly talk over the introand then stop right when the
lyrics would come in.
I guess that's their job.
That's a trick of the trade.
Maybe Can you remember theradio stations you listened to
as a kid.
I listened to B96.
That was a big one.
100.3 I would listen to.
(17:38):
104.3 was the oldies station.
Yep, I remember that well, Iwas a big oldies listener.
Yeah, not me so much, but everyonce in a while I'd be like I
have a great oldies mixtape.
Do you remember how great I wasin?
Scan came to be, I don't know,scan.
And then it would just like oh,oh, scan, scan, yes, like on
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the radio, like in the car, yes,seek and scan, be like this is
great.
And then you'd be like hit itagain.
Yes, I'm surprised you didn'tlist Q101.
That was popular.
Yes, that was like thealternative station.
That was good.
Yeah, that 101 and b96 is stillgoing strong today.
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It is um, as is my countrystation in arizona, 102.5 and
power 92 was a big one.
It was like the b96 of arizona,yeah, and the 99.9 still has
the same dj it did when we werekids.
No way, it was beth and bill,built since past, but beth is
still beth and friends.
Beth and friends, yeah, andthat vote.
Whenever I hear her, it's sonostalgic it.
No way.
It was Beth and Bill, billsince past, but Beth is still
Beth and Friends.
She's still Beth and Friends,yeah, and that, whenever I hear
her, it's so nostalgic.
It brings me right back to thelate 80s.
(18:43):
My mom used to listen to 95.5,which was W-N-U-A.
What was smooth jazz.
It was like W-N-U-A 95.5.
Smooth jazz Did you work forthem?
That was very good, because shewouldn't let us change the
station.
She was like, if I'm driving,it was very rare that she would
(19:05):
let us pick the station or thechannel.
And I tell you what I wouldnever, ever, if she did, let me
pick this song for channel.
There was a song that I knewwas like inappropriate, I was
not keeping it on there.
My children who think it'sfunny.
I love that.
Our kids are listening to musicthat they hear on TikTok,
thinking it's new music, whenreally it's old music.
(19:26):
I love that when they're likehow do you know this song?
Yeah, right, and speaking ofmixtapes, let's go back to that
for a second.
Do you remember how long itwould take to make them?
It was like an all night event,like a sleepover event.
It was huge because you had to.
I mean so how long is a mixtape?
Maybe an hour, yeah, each side.
So you would have to.
(19:47):
It's not like you could justdownload it.
You had to wait for it torecord from a CD or from another
tape.
Oh, I forgot, you could recordit from a CD.
I was just thinking about thedouble disc players, the double
cassette players yeah, yeah,when you could record from a CD,
it was like, yeah, that wasgreat.
(20:08):
I loved the bodyguard tape.
That was one of the first CDs Iever bought.
But what I didn't realize wasit was the number one best
selling cassette tape of alltime yes, best-selling cassette
tape of all time yes, so I guessother people like it too.
That was a great album.
I feel like my.
I've always listened to music,like my mom would always have
music on, like if she was doinghousework.
She had this great.
(20:28):
My parents still have it, thisgigantic.
They use it as their TV standrecord player.
It's a stereo.
It has a record player and an8-track oh, cool, and do you
still use it?
No, because the tv is on it now.
But it's this massive piece offurniture and she would have
records going when she wascleaning the house.
But I used to do the read-alongbooks because I had a fisher
(20:50):
price record player and youwould put the records on and
then the book did it have anorange needle?
Yeah, yes, and a brown case?
Yeah, yeah, I still have mine.
It's at my parents' house.
It still works.
Did she save your records?
I have some records left.
Yeah, oh, that's kind of cool,it's me.
Have you shown it to Rose?
(21:11):
I did, she loved it.
Yeah, brown, oh, yeah, like mybaby's first boombox and that
was like read along books andtapes that was.
You could play tapes in thattoo.
That was great you could record.
My sister and I used to try tolike record people's
conversations.
We recorded an episode of PeeWee Herman, where I was the
mailman and Jane Mittendorf wasPee Wee Herman, and we used her
(21:35):
dresser drawer as bunk beds.
Pee Wee Jane invited themailman in for a sleepover, as
one night Sounds like somethingyou were like I don't know what
happened.
All of a sudden the mailman'ssleeping in my room Don't tell
Ryan.
And then we got into thedresser, used the dresser
drawers as bunk beds, uh-oh, andthe dresser fell over.
(21:56):
Used the dresser drawers asbunk beds, uh-oh, and the
dresser fell over.
Oh, no, as it would if twochildren were in it.
And from the downstairs, likefrom a distance, you hear Mrs
Mittendorf yell Jee-hee, jee-hee, and then you hear me say oh,
jane, I think I have to go home,like I'm out of here.
And that tape was the greatestrecording.
(22:19):
Oh, because you had it on tapeand I don't know whatever
happened to it because it wasrecorded from the Fisher-Price
recorder.
We loved Pee Wee's Playhouse.
I just showed it to Kevin thethe other day.
It's on amazon, yeah, prime tv,whatever and he was like this
is really weird.
(22:40):
I was like, oh, it's superweird.
My brother had the toys.
He had a peewee's playhouse setwith all the figurines.
It was amazing and we used torecord episodes of it and that
because we didn't have a videocamera and so we would play the
tape of us recorded it and thenwe would act out, have a video
camera and so we would play thetape of us recorded and then we
would act out the people playwith the feet.
That was cool, good, so cool.
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Oh my gosh.
Do you remember burning cds asyou got older?
Yeah, in college.
Yeah, that was like a freshmanyear favorite, but that took a
long time because Because itdownloaded so slowly, so slow.
Also, it might have beenslightly illegal.
Definitely Napster, napster,all those.
(23:20):
My friend Dave was very on theball with stuff like that, so I
feel like I tried to do it andthen I would just be like I
would like these 12 songs.
So I was really on the ballwith that.
I had an external cd burner andthen we'd buy a stack of blank
cds and a sharpie to write allthe tracks on there.
I still have them all, do you?
(23:42):
Well, I remember like with likewhen ipods and like all that
and you could burn your own cd,like you could load your cds
into itunes.
Yeah, just like the first time,just like going through every
single one of my CDs and tryingto get those on my computer so I
could have it on my iPod.
I was slow to warm with theiPod, really.
(24:03):
Yeah, I was a huge fan of theDiscman and the long disc.
I didn't realize the Discmandidn't come to be a thing until
1979.
See, that to me seems early.
Oh, it does.
Yes, because I was still.
I don't think I got a Discmanuntil the 90s.
Yeah, because I didn't have CDsuntil 1992.
Yeah, weezer was my first CD.
(24:24):
I love it.
The blue yeah, it's so goodBecause I had the coolest CD
case ever.
You did, yes, my sister's friendhad an internship at Mead and
got it and it was a circle andit unclipped on one side and
like accordion opened and youcould fit like 15 CDs and then
(24:45):
you flipped it on the other sideand it opened on the other side
and you could put 15 more.
That is the coolest CD caseever.
So I could fit 30 CDs in there,could put 15 more.
That is the coolest.
So I put 30 cds in there.
And then so I so, when I wasliving in new york and riding
the subway, had my, my meadcontainer of cds and then my
disc man commuting to workkilling it.
Remember in the car when youwould put the cds on the visor.
(25:08):
So I never had one because Inever drove, I never had my own.
That was a cool thing.
But my friend had that and Iwas like, because then it was so
easy access.
Yeah, I'm just grabbing, see,yeah, not messing around the
cases.
I got them all.
Did you have them alphabetizedor in a certain order?
Okay, no, no, absolutely not.
I'm like, think of theorganization that could have
happened Just all thrown.
(25:29):
But now when my kids get in thecar, my daughter will say, oh,
let me make a cue real quick.
Oh, even though she has Ihaven't dabbled with that Even
though she has a playlist like amile long, she'll build a cue
before we get in the car.
That's cool.
I think Rory does that.
I tend to.
Either lately I've been justpicking an artist and shuffling
(25:50):
songs by one artist, or I'llpick a specific album.
I usually let the kids choosein the car because we have to
like rotate, though, we'll belike, okay, aiden and then Rory,
then Kevin and then Rose.
Oh, that's nice.
Elle always jumps in the frontseat and I think Mike is just
like whatever, really.
Yeah, that's nice.
(26:11):
Yeah, my kids fight over it.
So now we have if it's an oddday, it's Aiden and Kevin, if
it's an even day, it's Rory,because their birthdays are even
and odd days.
Oh, that's a good way to do it.
Yeah, I think Mike picks hisbattles with her.
Yeah and yeah, but that's kindof nice.
Yeah, you don't have to worryabout it.
(26:32):
I was telling my kids too howexciting it would be to get a CD
or a tape, and it had thelyrics in it.
I was thinking about thatBecause Rose, the other day, was
like staring at our Alexa.
I'm like, what are you doing?
And music was playing.
She's like I'm trying to learnthe words.
That's too easy.
I was like, oh God, you have iteasy.
Yeah, too easy.
(26:52):
I remember like sitting thereand like trying to learn the
Blues Traveler song, oh yes,like the really fast part, or
like the Barenaked Ladies oh,that's what it was.
Yeah, one week like trying tolearn all those lyrics.
We saw them, remember, we did.
That was last summer.
We saw them Like we ran intothem at McDonald's.
Oh yeah, we had dinner withthem.
(27:12):
Yeah, we totally did.
We saw them perform, yeah, atthe zoo last year.
That was fun.
Remember the best part aboutthat?
I mean not the best part when Igot left at the zoo, when I
walked down the, when I ended upat like a bar slash, slot
machine slash With Ryan and Al.
Yeah, because, yeah, because Aljust left me at the zoo.
I remember walking down theroad but did you say no, he
(27:34):
didn't tell me he was leaving,no, he just left.
He left me.
I feel like I would have saidwhere's Nora?
Yeah, I don't know.
Did you pick us up at thatshady bar slot machine candy
store?
No, because I was kind of madat him, that's fair.
And then I don't know, no, youguys somehow made it to where we
were and so I was like leftthere, wait, but where is my
husband?
Where did he go.
(27:55):
Do you think that has anythingto do with the fact that the
beer vendor thought that you gotfree refills?
Did you ever hear this story?
No, so, listeners, I'm sorryI'm going off on a tangent and
we can certainly end this out.
We got to figure this out.
So there was.
You know where we were sittingoriginally.
(28:15):
Mark got us those seats.
So if you went up closer to thestage and to the left there was
a beer vendor and, listeners, wehad those silver, not
refillable cups, but likedisposable cups and the beer
vendor in the back thought theywere free refills.
What?
There was two vendors and oneof the guys was giving free
refills and then one of themwasn't.
And then at the end we went forkind of like a last call kind
(28:38):
of situation and the guy whowasn't giving free refills said
to the guy who was man, what areyou doing?
He's like oh, I thought it wasfree refills, I didn't know that
.
No, man, it's not.
So, yeah, so you and Al and Ryanwere getting free refills and
then left me at the zoo.
I'm totally over it, it's fine.
Wait, why did I get lost in theleft?
(29:00):
Maybe you don't want to walk.
You guys were going to walk andI was like that's silly.
And then I said I think I'mgoing to wait for an Uber.
And then Al just left with youand Ryan, I should have waited
for an Uber.
And then I ended up having toclimb a fence, I think with a
friend of ours, and then we allended up at the same bar.
We ended up at the same bar.
But, yeah, you guys had anadventure, because you guys
(29:21):
walked the wrong way.
Yeah, to the candy shop.
Slash slot machine, slash bar,slash Bible thumper running the
place.
It was weird.
It was so weird, so weird, yes,anyways.
Yeah, music makes my day better.
I listen to music constantly.
If I have to get work done, Ilisten to music.
If I'm in the shower, I listento music.
You listen to music.
In the shower, I do, and then Ido.
(29:43):
If I need to get work done.
I will listen to a podcast now,though, but I know some people
do not work well with music on.
Al does not like to have musicon.
I do not like to have music onwhen I'm thinking, yeah, and it
helps me think better.
Oh, isn't that interesting.
Everybody's different,different noses, different, same
name, different, different waysof doing things.
(30:03):
You know there's more than oneway to skin a cat.
I will seek your word for it.
Is that true?
I don't know.
I would think how many otherpossible ways could there be.
I think there's only one way,and is skinning a cat.
I don't know.
That's not something I don'twant to find out.
No, thank you, I'm sure wecould probably.
No, I don't want to Google.
I don't want to Google that.
(30:24):
No, don't skin a cat.
Just keep the skin on and justaccept people's differences and
differences and listen to music.
Don't skin a cat.
Listen to our podcast.
Oh, lordy, why would you haveto skin a cat?
Yeah, right, yeah, who's doingthat?
(30:44):
We're looking up this expression.
Where did this come from Rightnow?
Well, no, we can do it for nextweek.
Next week, we'll be coming toyou via Zoom.
Yes, I will be in New York, youwill be here, but we'll be
coming to you via zoom.
Yes, I will be in new york, youwill be here, but we'll still
have an episode for ourlisteners and I will find out.
Where did that or you could do,where did that expression come
from and why one would need acat?
(31:06):
No, yeah, get a parka.
You don't need a fur to keepwarm.
Get a sweatshirt.
Get a sweatshirt.
Get a fur.
Oh, no, don't, don't get itSynthetic fur.
Yeah, a joke, let's go toHighland Low.
Yeah, let's do it.
Let's stop talking about this.
My low is our power outage.
(31:26):
Uniform exchange at school.
Oh, I have so many bags ofuniforms that I need to donate.
Shoot, and I missed it.
Do you have jumpers?
No, I have skirts.
Okay, that's all right, butthank you for all my pants.
You're welcome, or nothing.
(31:47):
Pants for your child from mychildren, yes, well, yeah, no,
you're welcome.
I was happy to, I appreciate it.
Six pairs of pants, my high,and I know you're going to like
this.
Okay, I went to the car washyesterday.
Oh, my gosh, my poor minivan.
Her name is Muffin and she wasso dirty because of all the
(32:10):
construction inside and out.
You have so much dust at yourhouse, there's so much dust, and
I brought Clorox wipes.
I brought a Swiffer with me andI did the whole inside.
I used the air gun and sprayedall the crevices of the car.
I used their cleaner for theinside windows.
I think you do a better jobwhen you do it yourself.
(32:32):
Yeah, because you don't want toknow what I found.
In one of the backseat pockets,so the seat behind shotgun you
found an incrustable.
I found one Portillo's chickenfinger in a box.
Oh my God, barf, was itpreserved?
It was fine.
Yeah, I mean, I know you didn't.
Yeah, it wasn't like moldy oranything, but I was like I like
(32:54):
let out like an audible.
Oh my God, this is disgusting.
I wonder how long it had beenthere.
What the heck it's been so hot.
It was like it stayed warm.
It was.
Yeah, it was still.
It was still fresh, no, gross.
But I'm so happy the car is soclean.
I'm happy for you because Ilove that feeling.
It's pretty great.
And then Al went this morningand washed his car.
(33:14):
It seems to me he's a littlejealous.
How about you?
My high is, all four of my kidswere home last night by 8.45 pm.
I don't know why everybody washome early, but they were and
nobody went back out.
So I slept soundly from like8.45 on.
Oh, you got a good night'ssleep.
(33:36):
Yeah, because usually the olderkids have to be home by 11.
And usually they get home at10.59.
So I don't really fall asleepeven though I'm in my bed.
Yeah, because you want to knowwhat your people are accounted
for.
So I was thrilled that even theyounger guys were home by then.
It was good to have all mypeople in one place and a good
(33:57):
night's sleep.
That does feel good.
Yeah, all righty.
Well, thanks for joining ustoday.
Yeah, and come back next week.
Yep, bye.
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