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June 3, 2025 37 mins

This week on Two Women Chatting, Michelle welcomes the brilliant and bold Tova Leigh - writer, performer, and fierce advocate for female empowerment - for a refreshingly honest and insightful conversation. From reclaiming the word "gossip" as a force for good to navigating midlife friendships, Tova shares her journey of self-expression, boundary-setting and building meaningful female connections.


They also dive into deeper issues like toxic masculinity, the rise of figures like Andrew Tate, and the role of technology in shaping how young boys and girls perceive themselves. Tova brings a fresh lens to complex issues, while reminding women that they hold incredible power - in their voices, their friendships and their choices.


Key Insights

🎙️ Reclaiming Gossip: Tova reframes gossip not as something petty, but as a historically vital form of connection and communication among women - one rooted in trust and intimacy.

🎙️ Finding Power in Boundaries: Saying “no” isn’t selfish - it’s necessary. Tova talks about how boundaries protect our mental health and help foster healthier, more respectful relationships.

🎙️ The Evolution of Female Friendship: In midlife, women often find deeper, more meaningful friendships. Tova shares how her retreats and creative work help women foster true community and support.

🎙️ Toxic Masculinity & Technology’s Role: Tova discusses the troubling rise of toxic male influencers like Andrew Tate and how education, awareness, and community can push back against harmful narratives targeting young boys.


Tova brings her one woman show Honey I’m Losing It to in London on 24 July.  Tickets available here https://www.jw3.org.uk/whats-on/tova-leigh-honey-im-losing-it


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Episode Resources

💫 Tova Leigh's Website: www.tovaleigh.com

📸 Follow Tova on Instagram: @tova_leigh


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Whether you’re finding your feet in midlife or learning to say “no” for the first time, this episode is a powerful reminder that sharing stories and standing together makes us all stronger.


Tova Leigh, empowerment, women, gossip, boundaries, friendships, midlife, community, creativity, storytelling, toxic masculinity, Andrew Tate, humor, social media, parenting, education, relationships, women's empowerment, sisterhood, self-expression




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