Moosehead Memories, Linkin Park's New Era, and Oktoberfest Adventures

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Speaker 1 (00:11):
So good evening, everybody, or morning, I guess,
wherever you're listening to it,whether it be morning, night,
afternoon, overnight, middle ofthe night, I don't know.
2 am, 4 am, whatever it is.
Greetings and welcome into theTwo Guys in Beer podcast, andy
Beckstrom, sean Field, with youonce again, as always, from the
Two Guys in Beer podcast studio.
What a great place to be ableto bring you all sorts of

(00:33):
different episodes here over thecourse of a little more than a
year now.
Although we haven't celebratedit, but it's been a little bit
more than a year.

Speaker 2 (00:40):
It has been a little bit more than a year and you
know it's been a fun ride fromwhere we started to where we are
now.
It's been pretty crazy and Iguess we did.
We're kind of just picking anyrandom beer tonight.
We'll talk about some ourexperiences in germany and
octoberfest, but I just happenedto pull out some moose head
which is owed to our very firstepisode, I suppose you could say

(01:00):
and andy also decided to grab acan of Moosehead.

Speaker 1 (01:03):
Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 2 (01:04):
So we're just going to drink some beer and bullshit
about our experience in Germany,oktoberfest and whatever else
might have you.

Speaker 1 (01:11):
Yeah, we'll probably spend a little time talking
about some of the favoritemoments of the last year or some
of our favorite episodes, youknow, or just kind of generally,
kind of going down the oldmemory lane.
If nothing else, just the avideo now where you can see what
we look like.
You know, you can you get that,but you know, the studio, the
table out, like all thedifferent things you know, like

(01:33):
at one point uh, yeah, I don'teven know if we ever posted
pictures of like the originalthe og.
When we recorded the first timeit was just set up, kind of
like I got a little small homebar here and we just set the
stuff up there and like held themics and it was just kind of
hanging out you know much in arecliner.

Speaker 2 (01:50):
I think you were sitting on a baseball bat stool.
We're just trying to figure itout.

Speaker 1 (01:56):
Yeah, so it's been, you know it's been, you know,
kind of a crazy year, year plusnow.
So but before we get to, youknow we're doing we don't have a
specific beer or brewery thatwe're talking about, but kind of
reminiscing back to Moosehead.
But before we get too deep intoit, got to get the best part
going.
Open it For those who don'tremember the Moosehead canadian

(02:27):
lager a a, a, I say a, I saysuper good beer.

Speaker 2 (02:32):
I like moosehead.
It's one of my favorite loggersand I'll tell the story how I
first tried it.
I was building my home bar inmy house, which is coming along
pretty nice.
It's pretty nice home bar and Iwas looking online for some
different bar signings, likesome beers.
But I didn't want Miller Liteor Corsair.
I wanted some cool type oflight or sign or something

(02:55):
different.
And I was thumbing through eBayand all of a sudden a Moosehead
light popped up and I'm like,well, that's a sweet-ass name,
it has a sweet logo and it justhappened to be the round light
that spins in 360.
Oh nice.
So I'm like that is awesome, Iwant that light.
So I bought the light, got thelight home, checked it out.

(03:16):
Like you all, I've never had amoose head before in my life.
So gotta at least experience it,gotta try it yeah, as I got in
the car I went up the liquorstore, found some lucid drank it
and I'm like damn, that'sactually a pretty good lager.
It's it's got good flavor.
It doesn't taste like watereddown crap, piss water, whatever

(03:37):
you want to call it.

Speaker 1 (03:38):
You know what I mean it's nice and smooth, but it
does still have some uh, somebody to it there's some flavor
there.

Speaker 2 (03:43):
Yes, so I absolutely probably in my top five one of
my favorite beers I suppose.
I don't know if I could make atop five, so I'm just
spitballing, but this woulddefinitely be up there.
You know, widow maker mooseheadare definitely in the top five
somewhere and there's a handfulthat you know.

Speaker 1 (04:00):
same thing, like I don't know that I could make a
five, a top five, top ten.
People ask me all the timewhat's your all-time favorite
brewery?
And I have a couple that standout, but I don't know that I
have like this is number one orthis is the top, because there's
so many that are good out there, and it's the glory and the

(04:20):
fantasticness.
I don't think that's a word,but that's what I'm going to say
and you know what I'm trying tosay.
So technically it makes it aword.
It works here.
But it's the best part aboutbreweries that sometimes there
are breweries that have certainstyles, like there's German
style or whatever it may be.
You know like they only dostouts or things like that.
Some of them have that, but forthe most part some of them,

(04:41):
more so, have a theme for thebrewery, but then they'll have
IPAs, stouts, porters, lagersNot all of them have lagers, but
they have, like, a light ale orthey'll have a width and
breadth of different types ofbeers there.
And so it's pretty rare, atleast in my experience, that I
go to a brewery and I'm likethere's nothing here that I like

(05:01):
there's some of them that onlyhave one or two a little bit.
It's not very many, but at thesame time those one or two are
good enough for me and they'rethey're really good.
They are, and I've been to somethat is like that's one of my
favorite beers.

Speaker 2 (05:16):
the rest of it's all crap, but that one's one of my
favorite so what else iscatching on too is you're
leaning off all the differentstyles of beer at breweries.
It seems seltzers are becomingmore of a thing at local
breweries too now, so it's notjust lagers or stouts or ales,
so that's another one coming.
I don't typically choose todrink a seltzer, but that seems
to be coming on too.

(05:37):
And with going along trying topick a favorite beer, like you
said, why it's so hard?
It's like trying to pick yourfavorite band or your favorite
movie or something that's likeit's just not going to happen.
Yeah, I love all of these right, but and it is kind of fluid, I
suppose you know, for a while,like lincoln park was my
favorite band, but then for awhile corn was or godsmack or

(05:58):
tom petty you know what I mean,so it kind of the top five kind
of fluctuates what's number oneto what's number five.

Speaker 1 (06:06):
Like you said, it's what's going on at that time.
You know what I mean.
Same thing Linkin Park wasprobably one of my favorite
bands of all time, but obviouslyit waned quite a bit when they
kind of stopped, didn't makequite as much music and then, of
course, when Chester died itbecame such a different vibe and
then they didn't put out anymusic and I still listen to it.

(06:26):
But Shinedown has far surpassedthat in my mind.
But does that mean that I don'tlike Linkin Park as much?
Like no, I still do.
Just it's, you know it's atthis time that's kind of been
more of a thing because it'sit's accessible.
There's new stuff that's outthere or it's the stuff that,
like I can buy a concert ticketto be able to go and see

(06:47):
Shinedown.
I guess now I could go buy aconcert ticket to go and see
Linkin Park.
Now you're cutting it out.
I've listened to some of theirnew stuff or whatever, and some
of it's pretty good.
It's a much different vibe,though it's a different deal
overall.

Speaker 2 (07:06):
I think she does a decent job with some of the
older stuff, but it's it's adifferent era.
Yeah, I agree, I think, whenreferencing lincoln park,
listening to her sing chester'sparts in their music prior to
her joining the band I, it'sstill a little goofy to me.
I think she's a fantasticsinger.
It's just goofy to hear hersing his parts.
But the album they've come outwith, which releases here and
well, sometime around November15th, I was going to say it's

(07:27):
got to be pretty close, prettyquick.
You know I pre-ordered it, likethe three singles that they've
released off that album.
The music itself sounds likeLinkin Park.
Of course it's a female singing, not Chester, but if you were
to strip the vocals and justlisten to the music.
The basics does sound like that.
And just listen to the music.
The basics does sound like that.
It's Linkin Park.
Of course, now there's a newsinger there.
They have some bangers.
Two of those three singles arebangers.

(07:49):
She does an amazing job.
So I kind of view Linkin Parkas a whole new band.
You're going to have to try todifferentiate the two eras,
which is going to be incrediblychallenging.

Speaker 1 (08:01):
Especially because when you go to a show you still
want to hear.
I Came to See Lincoln Park, andso I still want to hear some of
these other songs.

Speaker 2 (08:07):
Which they're going to have to play, because that's
their entire capital.

Speaker 1 (08:10):
Yeah, go ahead and bring me Breaking the Habit or
something like that.
Like I'm going to need to hearthat, right, but that's so.
I guess I've read some thingsno-transcript, so we'll get a

(08:31):
little bit more into some otherstuff here in a little bit.
But in regards to that kind ofseparating it as two different
bands, I've read some differentthings about a lot of the
pushback that they're receiving,not only Lincoln Park but
especially the new lead singer,as far as having a different
sound or having a differentvoice and disrespecting the
memory of Chester or things likethat.

(08:51):
And I guess in my mind, how doyou reconcile with?
In the end, yes, you want torespect that and you want to
make sure that you, whether thenew person, can do that, or if
you have to get two new peopleand you get somebody that's
really good at covering that orsomething like that, you know
what I mean.
But at the same time, they'reall still musicians.
Should they just stop makingmusic altogether?
Right, because he's not there?

(09:13):
I mean, yes, it's a differentsound and you can take it in a
different direction and in a way, that's why a lot of bands end
up breaking up, you know, likebecause they creative
differences, or you know they'retrying to do something
different with the, with the bit, but you know what's kind of
your take on that.
Like them now deciding to dosomething different.

Speaker 2 (09:30):
Well, I think the argument is more so.
Do they still call themselvesLinkin Park, as opposed to a new
name with a new band?
A lot of people get upset about.
You know her singing Chester'smusic and taking his spot in the
band per se, but it's not hismusic.
Okay, there's other members ofthe band.

(09:51):
Lincoln park was formed beforechester even came a part of the
band.
People need to remember that hewas the last member in the band
lincoln park, so it's not justhis band in his music.
Granted, he is an iconic voicemetal, hard rock, new metal,
whatever you want to call itwhich is super hard to replace,

(10:12):
and I think Linkin Park isn'ttrying to replace him.
Yeah, it's just a new era ofLinkin Park and these people
with these criticisms of her andthe band and what they're doing
, they almost act as if no bandin the history of music has ever
replaced a band member.
It happens all the time.
All mainstream bands, godsmackMetallica, you know.

(10:35):
Three Days Grace they've allchanged singers and drummers and
guitarists and bassists.
That's incredibly challengingto replace a singer.
And I think for Linkin Park tocontinue on picking a female was
the way to go.
I think she's going to takeless flack than some other guy
trying to sound like Linkin Park.

(10:56):
So they're not trying to keepthe Chester sound anymore per se
, it's a whole new deal Likelook at Static X.
You know they're prettymainstream.
Not not hugely mainstream, butthey had a massive following.
Yeah, they're known.
Wayne static has a very uniquesound, passes away.
They didn't do anything for awhile.

(11:17):
Now they've been touring againfor three or four years with
zero.
The masked man that they won'trefuse to say who it is,
although we all know it's EdselDoe.
But whatever I mean, I don't.
Well, I do.
Fair enough they haven't said it, but everybody seems to know
that the people are into themand they did a fantastic job.
You know, they sound great.

(11:38):
They sound just as good as theold Static X.
They're not trying to replaceWayne or ditch him or tarnish
his memory or legacy or anything.
It's just the bandmates want tocarry on.
They wrote the music too.
They crafted the music as well,you know.

Speaker 1 (11:53):
And I guess that that takes me back to, you know, a
comment that you made of they'renot trying to replace Chester
himself and keep it the way thatit was, and I guess that's.
I guess maybe that's a decisionthat every band needs to make.
If you have somebody leave orpass away or something that
changes like that, that, do yougo that route like Static X, or

(12:14):
you can name a bunch ofdifferent bands that have had,
you know, the lead singer takeoff?
You know there was someeighties bands that you know,
like Van Halen, exactly VanHalen, like some major changes
and stuff like that.
Or do you go like the journeyroute, where I don't know that
they created any more new music?
They have, they have, they have.

(12:34):
Ok, I didn't know that there wasreally anything, but they
picked a guy who looks muchdifferent but sounds exactly the
same.
Yeah, so do you.
Yes, so do you.
That's kind of what thedecision is.
You know, like you mentioned,that they're not trying to
recreate that.
They're trying to recreatetheir new sound with somebody
that has that capability, butthat's not who they are anymore,

(12:57):
and I guess that's the toughpart is, I think everybody wants
them to be that.
I think everybody wants them tobe Journey.
You know where you're like.
No, just get whoever can singkaraoke, the same way, you know.
But then you, then you kind ofclose yourself off that you
either can't or you're verylimited with what new music you
can.
You can't have any other ideasor anything.
So I don't know.
I mean, people fought back ondifferent albums that people you

(13:20):
know, like there's Metallicaalbums that people didn't really
like that.
Well, this is a direction wewanted to do.
That's all up to you.
You know.
That's that's.
Everybody has that right to do.

Speaker 2 (13:30):
They do.
As a band they can do what theywant.
It's their music, it's theircreativity.
They can do what they want and,quite frankly, that's kind of
Linkin Park's MO.
You listen to the first album,awesome, awesome.
The second album, awesome.
The third album I thought wasawesome, but now we're not.
Like the first two albums weremore poppy, slower, and then

(13:50):
they just kind of progressedevery album afterwards to like a
completely different sound yeah, it definitely became their own
right, and it didn't slow themdown.
No, they were still putting outhits after hits and selling out
shows, and selling out shows.
And this new version of LincolnPark with Emily singing their
shows or stadiums are sellingout in like 30 seconds, like you

(14:13):
can't even get a ticket.
One whole show sold out justfrom Lincoln Park underground
fans because they get thepre-sale option first.
Right, no, general public evengot a ticket because the
underground Lincoln Park fansthat signed up for that bought
the whole stadium out.

Speaker 1 (14:27):
And is there six locations?
It's not like 175 locationsacross the world or something
like that.
It was something pretty small,but I mean I don't want to say
ease back into it, but I meanthey haven't really toured for
quite a while.
So this is a way to kind oflike all right, here's some new
music.
I'll let you chomp on that fora little while.

(14:47):
Let's see if you guys like it.
Then you can.
Here's the rest of the albumand here's the rest of the next
tour.

Speaker 2 (14:54):
Yeah, in 2025,.
They said they're going to tourextensively, so in order to get
tickets, I already signed upfor the Lincoln Park Underground
like a month ago I for theLincoln Park Underground, like a
month ago.
I want to go see the new LincolnPark.
I've been fortunate to see theold Lincoln Park twice.
I want to see the new one and Iwant to hear the new music live
.
I think Emily does a good jobwith their new direction and
their new music.

(15:14):
Two of those three singles, man, are bangers If you haven't
heard them the Emptiness Machine.

Speaker 1 (15:21):
Yeah, I think I've heard two of them.
Both of the two that I heardwere were really good, so don't
forget me when you do that.
I'm I, I'm gonna try to sign upfor the underground thing, but
don't forget me.

Speaker 2 (15:30):
Well, you know, we'll just get four tickets and we'll
figure it out after that yeah,I won't forget yet, provide I
can get in there and get sometickets.
I can't remember the.
Why can't I remember the secondsingle?
Now I don't, I know it, but Idon't know it.
Yeah, I can't remember thesecond single now I know it, but
I don't know it.

Speaker 1 (15:44):
Yeah, I can't remember off the top of my head.

Speaker 2 (15:45):
But it's more of a banger than the first one, which
was the Emptiness Machine.
Whatever video game that cameout, they did the song and it's
on that.
The music video is this videogame?

Speaker 1 (15:57):
I mean she's great though it's fun to listen to.
But yeah, I mean, I guessthat's kind of a recap of some
music stuff.
We go from beer to music andthat's what we do here, like I
said, it's, you know, kind ofthe tangent Tuesday.
But yeah, like I said, we'renot really doing a specific
brewery today.
You know, we are kind of, Iguess, semi unintentionally,
maybe intentionally, I guess, Ikind of grabbed the same thing
as you did, just because notrecap, but a memorial, no,

(16:20):
that's, they're still there,that's okay.

Speaker 2 (16:27):
They still make it.

Speaker 1 (16:28):
But just kind of, you know, looking back on you know,
like that, it was the firstepisode that we did you know
again, and think back to some ofthe other great episodes we've
had over the course of the year,you know, I think that probably
the Widowmaker is probably oneof my favorite ones that we did.
But yeah, there's been somethat you know, some breweries
you know we were able to getsome answers back from the
ownership or whoever it may be.

(16:50):
Some breweries had a lot ofinformation online and you know
some good, you know discussionpoints and some of them it was
kind of like pulling teeth andwe were just kind of grabbing
whatever information we couldfrom, even from news articles
that you know, the daily dabbleror something like that you know
like, ok, well, it's at leastit's kind of an overview of the
thing.

Speaker 2 (17:10):
But and some of them are interested in coming on the
show.
We just haven't figured thatout yet.
Well, the one in Amana Iowa,they want to come on.
You know, they said they were.
We just haven't figured out.
We'd rather not do remoteinterviews, because we have this
nice spot right here forsomebody to come on.

Speaker 1 (17:26):
Kind of a little difficult for some people out of
state to be able to come to thestudio.
We will have to wait just alittle while.
We haven't taken delivery onthe two guys' jet yet, so we're
still waiting on that.
Maybe when that happens we cando that.

Speaker 2 (17:40):
Mark Cuban hello, we can use a jet Exactly.

Speaker 1 (17:43):
I heard he's got four .
Go ahead and drop some you knowShark Tank money in on us or
something like that.
Growing the brand.
Yeah, no, it's been a lot offun.
But yeah, we're hoping to, youknow, get out there and if we
can figure out a way to be ableto do, you know, maybe some
remote stuff.
Otherwise, there's a couple ofbreweries even locally you know,
320 in Pine City and we didtalk a little bit with some of

(18:04):
the bar manager beer tender atMora Beer Club just north of
here, and we didn't thelogistics didn't really work out
on it so much but we were goingto try to get hooked up with
them.
When we were at Oktoberfest notthe Shell's Oktoberfest, it was
fantastic also, by the way,that was when we think back of
some of, like, the best timesthat we've had or whatever, like

(18:26):
moosehead, getting it kickedoff, widowmaker, just because I
love that beer and it's one ofmy favorite.
I've never been to the brewerybut it's one of my favorite
beers of all time I was, I madethe trip.
Yeah, you drove up there, I madejust randomly took off and did
that, but then I think shells isprobably the other one you know
probably stands out, you know,to me as one of my favorite, you
know.
I mean yes, the episode, butlike the trip that we, you know

(18:47):
it was kind of fun that was.
It was almost in the in a veinof back in the day, the Chicago
trip that we took, but it wasmore of a.
We sat here and we're like, oh,that was a good episode, this
is good beer.
I wonder when their Oktoberfestis.
Oh, it's tomorrow.
Well, let's see here.
Well, I got hockey tickets togo watch the Gophers.
You know, play hockey, but well, we could maybe make it work.

(19:12):
Let's see if it's online, andyou know, whatever.
And sure enough, you know, thenext morning, you know we're
packed up at, you know Sean'sand taking off and doing live on
location from Shell's Breweryout there and Buddy Kyle went
with and you know the wives, andyou know it was a good trip and
a good time, but it was kind of, you know, like that Chicago
trip where it was just kind oflast second.

Speaker 2 (19:33):
Yeah, that's kind of how I roll, personally.
When I do things, I just kindof spring it, do it the next day
, whatever, oh, that sounds fun,let's go Super spontaneous.
I spring that stuff up on mywife all the time, like we're
going to this coming weekend,we're gonna go see yachtly crew,
and then sunday I sprung on her, oh, we're gonna go see manheim
steamroller, by the way oh nicelike well, what do you mean?

(19:55):
I'm like yeah, I just boughttickets for that.
We're gonna go check that outthis weekend.
She's like what is that?
I'm like you've never heard ofmanheim steamroller.
She's like no I like manheim alot like as big as you are into
holidays, what do you think?
You haven't heard of themabsolutely.
So we got tickets to that.
So this saturday we're gonnawatch yachtly crew whatever that

(20:16):
is I don't even know whatthat's about yacht rock or
something they look like they'reon a yacht that's all I know
they play like 70s and 80sclassic rock, stuff like that,
and then on Sunday we'll be atMystic Mystic Lake.
That's where the MannheimSteamroller is, and that's where
we're going to watch them.

Speaker 1 (20:34):
That'd be cool.
I've seen Trans-SiberianOrchestra, which I'm not sure if
you've seen that, but that's apretty good time for that one.

Speaker 2 (20:45):
Mannheim.
I have not seen but trans, thebeer and or so I think a little
overhyped for me.
I guess I was expecting morechristmas music right, I'm
shredding the guitars doingstuff.
It was more of a story, right,they would stop and the guy
would tell his story and theywould do different things.

Speaker 1 (20:55):
So I was thinking it was more of a band just
shredding guitars and drums,yeah, so which they do a certain
amount of that they do.

Speaker 2 (21:02):
When they do, they do a good.
Oh, absolutely it's awesome,but I thought it would have been
more of that, yeah but yeah, itwas fun, it was, it was cool.

Speaker 1 (21:10):
But yeah, I'd like to see manheim sometime.
I'd that'd be pretty cool to beable to do.
That remember growing up, youknow like mom would always have
the cd on during november,december and then, whatever, you
pop one of those cds, I havethe red album.

Speaker 2 (21:24):
I don't know what they call their albums, but the
red one came out in the early2000s.
Well, back then I had subs inmy car.
You pop one of those cds inthere and the bass from a real
bass violin and like real bass,not electronics, it's like, wow,
that'll get after.
It's pretty sweet.
So you're driving down the road,you know, banging your head and
enjoy to the world, or thereyou go, hark, the herald angels

(21:47):
sing or something you know, it'sjust so yeah, speaking of
octoberfest, of shells which, bythe way, I think shell still
has the best octoberfest beerever made that I've personally
tried right at this point, whichwe have to go next year because
we failed to go to shells thisyear.

Speaker 1 (22:05):
We did talk about it but, yeah, the logistics didn't
come through quite as well thistime.
There was some other stuff thatcame up, but I'm a little
disappointed in myself.

Speaker 2 (22:15):
Well, we got to use our leader holes in the gun
Exactly.
It can't be a one-time usething.

Speaker 1 (22:19):
Where did we use our leader holes in the first time?

Speaker 2 (22:22):
In Germany, munich, germany.

Speaker 1 (22:26):
So why don't you talk about that?
Yeah, if you haven't seen thevideo that we posted to the
social media, there's a littleshort.
That's got there where we'retalking out.
Was it Hofbrau that we weretalking?

Speaker 2 (22:37):
in front of Laufenbrau.

Speaker 1 (22:39):
Laufenbrau.

Speaker 2 (22:40):
The one with the lion .
There we go, the Laufenbrau.

Speaker 1 (22:43):
I don't really remember, because I think even
in the video I think I said Iwas already like three ish
liters deep, which I didn'trealize at the time.
I think Sean did the math forme later that uh, you know the
leaders, it, you know you putabout three of these in one of
those and so, yeah, I wasalready three liters by my math
is a lot, um, and so, yeah, youcould tell on the video, I mean,

(23:06):
had it been there for a littlebit, but it was.
I mean it was such a great time, the you know, kind of it was
almost not quite spur of themoment, like the shells
Oktoberfest, but in a way, kindof you know it was.
We thought, you know, like God,that'd be really cool to be
able to do something like that.
And then my wife and her sisterssigned up for a lottery for the
Berlin marathon and then theygot in which they were kind of

(23:30):
surprised about, and they'relike, well, now we have to train
for a full marathon.
They've run, like they've runall run at least one marathon
before, so it's not like firsttime or anything, but they're
like, well, now we got to trainfor that, we got to get going on
that.
And hey, do you want to go with?
Like, well, I don't know aboutgoing to a marathon, but when is
it again?
Well, the end of September.

Speaker 2 (23:50):
Oh yeah, Let me think about that for a second.

Speaker 1 (23:54):
You know what else is at the end of September, the
beginning of October.
So, yeah, it just became kindof a discussion and I think I
brought it up at one point orwhatever.
I'm like, but you have interestlike legit going to the actual
Oktoberfest, and I think thenext week you showed up and
you're like so we're looking attickets, and so it just yeah,

(24:15):
that kind of spiraled, not outof control into control,
spiraled into success, I guess.

Speaker 2 (24:21):
Very successful.

Speaker 1 (24:22):
Yeah, but it was just kind of, you know, not spur of
the moment, but in a way kind ofspur of the moment of you know,
just kind of, let's go toGermany.
Why not?
Right?
You know, and I don't knowabout you, but I always I'm like
I would love to go toOktoberfest, really want to do
it.
It's kind of a life goal, dream, never going to happen.

(24:43):
You know what I mean?
Because there's got to besomething else going on, because
am I really going to pay thatmuch and spend that much time on
a plane just to go drink beer?

Speaker 2 (24:48):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (24:49):
I mean after that experience, the answer would be
yes, and so, like before, I'mlike that's just never really
going to happen.
So when this situationpresented itself, I'm like when
is this ever going to happenagain?
I mean, now that I've beenthere, now, it's like we're
looking at like maybe we go getnext year why, you know, why
wouldn't we?
But yeah, you know.
So a little bit differentexperiences, I think, for the
two of us, just cause we had twodifferent things going on, but

(25:11):
we all met up at uh, atOktoberfest, and uh, wow, that
was.
It was just a fantastic day.
Just an amazing experience.

Speaker 2 (25:22):
It really was.
It was a lot of fun.
It was more than I expected, Iguess.
To your point, um, going toGermany, or specifically
Oktoberfest, never reallycrossed my mind in my life.
Like you know, I travel a lot.
You know I'm all over the place.
You know that, mostly withinthe United States, but I've been
out of the country I don't knowa handful of times and never

(25:43):
thought twice about going toGermany of all places.
I was never opposed to it.
I'm a huge history guy, youknow so.
Obviously World War II, a lotof history you know over in
Europe, with the kings andqueens and princes, you know so
I'm really into that stuff.
Never thought twice about it onmy list to go, but man, it was
so worth it.
I'm glad we went.
You know the Oktoberfest, thebeer's good, like Andy mentioned

(26:06):
.
You know every stein of beer isa liter, which is three
American beers in one liter andwe both had about three liters
when we did that video.
Our plan was to do a little fewmore videos than that and we
were going to try to run aroundand interview people.
That just didn't work outbecause we were busy drinking
and Andy's family, unfortunatelyfor him he was probably four

(26:29):
liters in on that and I was onlythree because they kept adding
more to his beer.
So you're, you're probably notwrong, you know that's.

Speaker 1 (26:36):
It's been known to happen.
You know, if I don't payattention too much or whatever,
and sometimes even if I ampaying attention or whatever,
mando will especially like if mybeer is almost empty or lower
if I look away, she just doesthe old swap a doozy and then
I'm like oh, wow all right, lookwhat happened here.
I mean I'm really turning itdown, so it's not really a
problem.
But yeah, that doesn't surpriseme.

Speaker 2 (26:57):
You were probably four liters in Okay.

Speaker 1 (27:00):
Well, that makes a lot more sense.
I think the picture of me atthe end of the night made it out
there too, somewhere.

Speaker 2 (27:06):
I have it.
I haven't posted it.
I was going to share everybodywith it, but he's on the train
ride home sleeping.
Yeah, we'll have to do itbefore Oktoberfest and after
Oktoberfest.

Speaker 1 (27:17):
And I still argue that and I'm hoping that
everybody out there feel free tocomment and chime in on the
socials and everything like that, but I'm hoping that somebody
will back me up on this one.
I still maintain that I wasjust tired, sure, at that point.
Jet lag, because I mean, mean,yes, the jet lag, but like, if
you drink that much beer, like I, you know you can drink beer
all day long, but once you stopdrinking beer, my mind, you know

(27:40):
, like once I stop drinking beer, then all of a sudden I'm just
like sluggish and tired and justkind of half fall apart.

Speaker 2 (27:47):
Right, all that work, all that, the chin lifting,
exactly yeah, so I.

Speaker 1 (27:52):
That's just how beer is always effective.
If I keep drinking it, then I'mfine and I can stay going or
whatever.
But yeah, once I stop, thenit's kind of hard to like get
going again.
And so, yeah, that was.
You know, we went out to dinnerafter that and that didn't go
well either.
Definitely was kind of like Iwas like falling asleep at the

(28:15):
table and they were making funof me and I had another leader
there.
You know, of course, why.
You know why not, but yeah, itwas.
I mean it was still fun, it wasa blast and it was so busy
though I like I mean, we knewthat it was going to be busy,
but I, I just I don't know thatI was prepared for how many
people would be there on aTuesday.

Speaker 2 (28:32):
Right, and it was, and everywhere, like being at
the state fair.
It was shoulder to shoulder,nuts to butts.
Everywhere you went, you werenuts to butts in the so-called
tents, which really aren't tents, they're buildings that hold
6,000 people at tables, butthat's how packed it was and by
1030, people were alreadystanding on tables and sloshing

(28:53):
their beers around to that postsong I don't even know what it's
called, you know and beer wassloshing and music was a blaring
and pretzels were a flying andbeers were being drank and
chickens were a wagon, chickenswere flapping.

Speaker 1 (29:07):
Yeah, it was, it was unreal, it was.
I mean, it was just an amazingexperience.
But yeah, to get that manypeople in there and, like you
said, like these structures are,you know, you conjure the idea
of a tent, like even a big tentI'm thinking like the wedding
tents.
You know the soft side, thepoles, you know stuff like that.
And then I'm like they get howmany people in there?
And we get there and we go inand they have like I-beam

(29:38):
girders and big six by sixtimbers holding stuff up and
second level patio seating orlike overlooks and you know,
like stuff everywhere and whenwe first got there, there was
like carpenters running aroundlike nailing down floorboards
and stuff like that.
So you know it's, it's stuff.
It's not like it's like a Imean it's a temporary structure,
but it's not like it's.
I don't know.
It's so weird to even conjurelike what to compare that to.

(29:58):
But yeah, to use like that.
See, if you're a comparison,it's like okay, well, this
entire block is now Lofenbrau.
It's a gigantic tent.
Yes, the roof is soft side.

Speaker 2 (30:11):
One big ass beer hall Roof is soft side One big-ass
beer hall.

Speaker 1 (30:14):
But it is like the floors, the posts, everything
holding it up, the structure isall appears to be fairly
permanent.
It's already down at this point, so it doesn't take very long
for them to tear it all down.
But it's unreal what they'reable to get built in there and
they pack people in.
This is not an Americanized allright.

(30:38):
We need to make sure thatpeople have their space and
you're not bumping into eachother and stuff like this.
This is like Minnesota Statefared down by the grandstand
after the band is let out.
We're talking when he means nutto butt, that's when you're
sitting down.
It doesn't matter where you'reat.
You're trying to basicallytactically sit in between people
or use them as like a backrestor your backrest, right, and

(30:58):
it's not a matter of when youget there.
You don't have a server.
I mean, you kind of do, but youdon't have like a dedicated
server that you're like okay,what can I get for you tonight?
And were you looking for someappetizers?
And oh, how about some zingersfor you know, for the table, or
something like that?
No, no, you show up and youjust hope to god you could find
a spot in there, because earlyin the day.
It's pretty easy to get there.

(31:18):
But when we got there a littlebit later on, we started moving
around.
There was what eight of us,seven of us, I think, seven,
something like that but we gotto a couple places and like you
can't get in there, you can'tget in there, you can't find a
spot.
We there was a couple of them,we around we did like two laps
trying to be able to findanything, and we find like three
tables kind of somewhatadjacent, with like two, three
spots each.

(31:39):
I ended up partying anddrinking with a guy from Madrid,
which I got a story about thathere coming up too and maybe we
already discussed.

Speaker 2 (31:47):
Oh, I did tell you about that.

Speaker 1 (31:48):
Yeah, I did tell you about that one, just the
creepiness of Facebook and Metaand Mark Zuckerberg.
But you know it's what you do.
Everybody's just jammed inthere and when you get seated
down, you know like there'sservers, I guess, that run
around, but they're not comingto your table.
You have to wave them down.

(32:09):
This is what I want and it'salso not you don't have.
Like, can I get the tap list?
Can I get the?
You know what?
What seven beers do you have?
And it's like no, they have two, some of them only have one,
and you just say seven, yep,that's all it is, and they don't
have any more time for that.
Beyond that, if you take, ifyou dawdle or take any longer
than that, they're already gone.

(32:29):
Yeah, it doesn't matter.
And they come back with sevenof them in one hand, seven
liters, seven liters and likethey're just like bam and you
just you pay cash right there atthe table and then you just
move on with life.
You just start drinking yourbeer, start drinking beer, yeah,
and you know the best partabout it.
You go to something like that.

(32:49):
You go to the state fair, likemost people are in a good mood
and most people it's not anissue, but every so often you
run into some kerfuffles andsome different issues, stuff
like that.
I don't know that I ran acrossanybody that was even upset the
entire time there.
That much beer and that muchalcohol you'd think that some
people would be.
You know, like hey, you raninto me or you know whatever.

(33:10):
It's like.
No, you run into somebody who'slike hey, cheers, like whatever
.
It's like.
No, you run into somebody who'slike hey, cheers Like they're
just right back after itBathroom's this way.
You know, like it's just, it'sabsolutely unreal.
You know the experience and itwas.
Everything was positive aboutit.
The food was great, the beerwas great.
You know the.
You know the atmosphere.
You know the.
You almost want to call ituniforms.
You know, but like the, theoutfits, you know what I mean.

(33:32):
We we got the leader holes inand the girls got the dwindles
and you know kind of went withthe thing and it was kind of
well.
Are we going too far with this?
Are we getting this?
Are we taking this tooseriously?
Swear to God, if you go thereand you're not dressed up.

Speaker 2 (33:53):
You're the you're going to be.
The patrons that show up atOktoberfest were dressed for the
occasion Lederhosen or thedresses.
We went on Tuesday and it waslike kids' day.
In the morning there wereschool buses dropping kids off
there.
They were all dressed for ittoo.
And before you get too crazyabout kids showing up at
Oktoberfest Oktoberfest, yeah,there's a lot of beer drinking

(34:15):
there and there's a lot of beerhalls there.
I think there's six mainbreweries that have the big
tents there, and then there'slike 30 offshoot ones of smaller
breweries, but this place islike carnival rides and games,
and it's basically like anoversized county fair Probably
not quite as big as like theMinnesota State Fair, but it's
massive, yeah.
So that's why you have kidsrunning around having a good

(34:40):
time.
And and another thing you gotto think about, that too, is, in
the german culture, beer isjust part of their way of life.

Speaker 1 (34:43):
Yeah, you can dress with your 14 there.

Speaker 2 (34:45):
That's just a social thing.
It's like to your point.
I didn't see many peoplegetting drunk at all.
I mean there probably was, yeah, but if they were was no
crabbyness, it's just a part ofthe thing.
You just have a good time.
But even then, personally, Ireally didn't see anybody drunk
drunk there at all like I wouldhere in town at a local bar,
yeah, yeah.
You were buzzed up pretty good.

(35:05):
I was getting a pretty goodbuzz, but it wasn't.
Nobody was stumbling aroundpuking, acting like a fool.

Speaker 1 (35:11):
Well, because you didn't go to puke hill, there is
a hill that literally is namedpuke.

Speaker 2 (35:15):
I did not go out there.

Speaker 1 (35:15):
Apparently, I walked past it.
I didn't even know that it wasthere.
But you know, that's what I wastold after the fact.
But you know, that's one thing,I didn't step in anything.

Speaker 2 (35:24):
Is puking.
Oh yeah, we did miss out onthat Two a little bit more.
Right, we kind of just wentfrom tent to tent, drank and
drank, and drank, and that mightbe a reason to go back there
again.

Speaker 1 (35:37):
I was going to say we're going to have to go back
again, just for the experience.

Speaker 2 (35:40):
Yeah, we didn't do any of the where you sit in the
middle and that saucer spins andyou fly off, or that belt.
Oh the belt.

Speaker 1 (35:49):
We didn't do the belt , but we just got into drinking
and it was so much fun it wasjust kind of everything else
went haywire and that's one ofthose things that, like I mean,
for me personally, like that wassuch a whirlwind trip, you know
what I mean.
It was only like seven dayslong and two and a half of it
for me was flying, and so reallyit was only like five days, and
so I was get there, get checkedin and get to.

(36:11):
You know, the hotel and I wasgoing to stay at the next day
was the event, the open house,not the open house, but the
thing for the marathon to beable to get bibs and stuff like
that, which was.
It was so big that it was heldat an old airport, a Soviet area
Well, I suppose not Sovietcommunist era airport that was
no longer in service, but it'sjust a massive, huge building

(36:34):
with, basically, they just runyou out onto the tarmac and they
just had it fenced off to beable to be there.
The expo is what it is.
So we went there to be able tocheck that out, and then the
next day was, you know, gettingready for the marathon and
getting all the finalpreparations, and then me and my
brother-in-law ran.
The 5K marathon is what we liketo call it and what did?

Speaker 2 (36:52):
you do halfway through the 5K marathon is what
we like to call it.
And what did you do?

Speaker 1 (36:55):
halfway through, halfway through.
What did we do halfway through?

Speaker 2 (36:57):
Well, you stopped?
Did you not stop and drink abeer?

Speaker 1 (37:01):
No, there wasn't any beer on the road.

Speaker 2 (37:02):
Oh, I thought you did .
No, they had non-alcoholic beer.

Speaker 1 (37:05):
at the end it was terrible.

Speaker 2 (37:07):
Oh, I misheard, I thought for sure.

Speaker 1 (37:16):
No, I wanted to.
I thought that's what you hadsaid.
I'm like what?
That would have been great andyou're like cheers.
Yeah, no, there was like anon-alcoholic beer stuff at the
end and we went and found a beerlike regular beer, like right
away, but they had Berliners,like the little stuffed donut
thing at the end or whatever forus to be able to have, and so
that kind of ate up most of theday or whatever.
And so me and Alan are alreadykind of, you know, like getting

(37:36):
after it and you know the girlshad to get up super early to be
able to get ready for themarathon.
And then the next day was themarathon, which was a whole
different experience.
My God, if you've ever seen60,000 people in one spot, it
was an experience just to seethat many people going and
running and stuff like that.
And so we use the subway systemand the transit system is just

(37:57):
phenomenal there.
It was absolutely great.
That's the other part aboutMunich too, that like you could
get completely tore up andyou're not driving home,
Nobody's driving home, Likethat's not really part of the
thing, Like there's so muchtransit that there's not that
even that much parking reallythere because not as many people
have.
I mean, they may have vehicles,but it's just not.

Speaker 2 (38:16):
Mass transit is such a different thing culturally,
there too well, and germany'sbeen there so much longer than
the united states and it's somuch smaller.

Speaker 1 (38:25):
Yeah, so you know, all those old towns weren't
built for your f-350 and allthose things, so it's a lot more
confined so, yeah, so we, weuse the uh to trade the trains,
to be able to like skip ahead,you know, during the marathon,
and be able to, you know, cheerthe girls on a little bit, and
so that ate up pretty much thatday.
The next morning we drove down.

(38:46):
It was about a five hour drive,I think is what it was, maybe
it was six hours, I don't know.
It was forever in this tinylittle car on the Autobahn which
, let me tell you, three lanesof six, but the three lanes on
your side for the Autobahn, theright lane is for the big trucks
, because everything is trucks.
They have trains there, butthey don't really have freight
trains, so to speak.
Most everything is trucked allaround there, which is fine.

(39:08):
We have a million trucks heretoo.
So there's there's trucks there.
You want to kind of live inthat middle lane and you want to
.
You still have to get after it.
I don't know what speed we weregoing because it was in
kilometers per hour and I didn'tdo the math at the time, but I
know at one point in time, likeyou, you want to like, if you're
going to pass somebody, youkind of take a look and you make
sure that there's not anybodyfor like a mile and a half

(39:29):
behind you.
And then you just got to can itto be able to get around them.
Because even if you can't seethem by the time, you get past
them, because that's the sportscar lane.
For, like you say, you know,like the German brands, like a
BMW or something, there's aGerman brand.
So they don't have like Fordand Hyundai or anything over
there, they have the Volkswagenand the BMW, so like that's what

(39:50):
they have, that's what they're,just what it is.
So we definitely got a littlebit of a hill downhill and we're
like, well, we're passing, liketwo people, and so let's, let's
find out what this car hasLittle T-Rock from Volkswagen,
you know, tiny little fourbanger, you know it got after it
, it got pretty good or whatever, and I think that we were
probably going.
I want to say I did the math.

(40:11):
It was like 165 or 170kilometers per hour, which is a
little more than 100 miles anhour, I believe like maybe 105,
110.
I don't, somebody can correctme on that.

Speaker 2 (40:21):
It's around 120 or 130.

Speaker 1 (40:23):
Whatever it was, we were flying and we had to still
get out of that lane becausesomebody just came rifling up
behind us and, like we werestanding still, it was just
unreal.
So that was, you know, kind ofa its own experience.
And then the next day wasoktoberfest, and then the next
morning I flew up, so therewasn't really a whole lot of

(40:45):
relaxing, you know.
That's why I was saying like wehad a little bit different
experiences, you had a littlebit more.
But that's where I'd like to goback and go to oktoberfest,
like two or three days.
You know, spend one day wheremaybe I don't have one beer.
I was going to say don't have abeer, but I don't think I'm
going to say that.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (41:02):
Have a limited beer.

Speaker 1 (41:03):
People will hold you to that on the next show Exactly
Limited beer limited intake onthat one, but it'd be fun to be
able to yeah, like you're sayingbe able to experience all the
different things and be able toexperience all the different
things, Do the different gamesand stuff.

Speaker 2 (41:14):
And another good.
One of my favorite portions ofOktoberfest was the bands.
Listening to the bands do that,maybe German polka, if you want
to call it that.
I'm not sure what style ofmusic you would call that.
It's kind of polka-ish.
But then they would do SweetCaroline, which is what Neil
Diamond.

Speaker 1 (41:34):
Yeah, they do current songs.

Speaker 2 (41:35):
It's all over the place and all 6,000 people are
singing it, All 6,000 peoplesinging it.
And then they're singing JohnDenver, you know, take Me Home,
and I kind of got a chuckle outof that, because you have a
whole host of Germans in othercountries singing from Carolina
to.
Texas.
You know I'm like right.
Beers are sloshing, just havinga good old time.

(41:56):
You know they they don't care,it's just all about having a
good time and drinking some beer, you know.
So definitely the music was oneof my favorite parts of.

Speaker 1 (42:04):
I agree.
Being at Oktoberfest there, sofor sure, and it is you
mentioned before.
You know, like with the kids.
It's such a cultural event too,Cause there was even the one
that we went to, like we werelistening to when we had, I
think, when we were sitting nextto the people that kept trying
to like get Lorelei to eatthings.
Weird, the older gentlemen,like they were.
They were super cool.
They look like, oh gee, newlocal folk, you know for that,

(42:27):
and they were super cool, a lotof fun to be able to hang out
with.
But we were watching the oneband over here and then, as they
started kind of winding thingsdown, they had a whole
procession where people were indifferent garb where they would
come through.
They did some like traditionaldances in the center and then
they had another band thatstarted off on the other side
and like it was a whole thing.
It wasn't just like a you go tothe VFW on Friday night and you

(42:48):
got gel playing, all thebangers you know, like that's
that's a great time.
It's a good time, but it's thisis more of like I'm not going to
say it's like going to church,but it's more of like going to
like the local community holidayprogram.

Speaker 2 (43:03):
Yeah, I forget the name of that tent we were in,
but that one was the in thetraditional portion of
Oktoberfest, Cause they havethey kind of have it separated
to more traditional things withthose dances and how they
dressed and stuff versus theother ones, like Laufenbrau
isn't necessarily more of atraditional one like that.
So we didn't get to see thatthose dances they were doing in
the center and those two otherbands and that food that was

(43:25):
they were trying to get us toeat.

Speaker 1 (43:27):
And it might've been at Laufenbrau, because some of
those have a big tent and thenthey do have a smaller tent in
that that traditional that'lllike hold those traditions but
and then they do have a smallertent in that traditional that
will hold those traditions, butthen the big one is just here's
our giant beer hall.
And when people say and this isanother question that I've
gotten, I don't know about you,but I've gotten this question
about they serve the beer warm,they don't really serve the beer
warm.

(43:47):
I mean, it's not freezing coldbecause they don't have chilled
mugs, but it's because there'sso many people and they only
have like essentially one beeror maybe two.
They just have a whole group ofpeople that sit back by where
the taps are just filling pintsand they just have a giant table
that just pints are put out, orliters, not pints.

(44:07):
Leaders are tossed out on andthen whenever you know that's
like when you order beers there,it takes three minutes.
Yeah, you get like super fast.
Yeah, it's not a wholetransaction with the bartender
and do you have a tab and stufflike that is you just like I'll
have five?
They go back, they grab thefive off the table that are
already poured, so I guessthey're not freezing cold.

(44:28):
But I don't think nothing waslike warm and nothing was room
temperature or anything.
It was still chilled chilled?

Speaker 2 (44:35):
Yeah, I agree too.
I got that question a lot.
Well, how was the warm beer?
I'm like well, I didn't haveany warm beer.

Speaker 1 (44:40):
Yeah, anywhere I was in Germany for those 10 days, I
never had a warm beer, even thesmall bars that we went to, yeah
.

Speaker 2 (44:45):
That was never a thing, so I don't know why
that's a stereotypical.
Their beer was cold, like yousaid, it wasn't in a frosty mug
at Octoberfest, but it wasn'twarm when it got to you.
You still got to drink somecool beer, a cold beer.

Speaker 1 (44:59):
And that's the thing.
If you put three beers I meanyou get yourself a Stein, go get
yourself a Stein sometime Leaveit out, obviously, don't chill
it and then just grab threebeers, toss it in there, wait

(45:22):
about four minutes and thenstart drinking.
By the time you get to thebottom it's not going to be cold
, right, but that's I mean whenyou drink in that size.
I guess sometimes it's betterto have a pint just because it
stays colder longer.
But no, it was.
Yeah, I never really ran intowarm beer at all, so that was in
a way kind of surprising CauseI guess I don't know that I
necessarily anticipated it.
But when people would ask, I'mlike oh yeah, that's right.
No, I didn't experience that.
Like I thought about it afterthe fact, I didn't think about
it at the time that I was like Iwasn't expecting it to happen

(45:44):
or anything.
So but yeah, no, it was.
For me it was.
It was a phenomenal trip.
Like I said, it was kind of awhirlwind.
Sean, you did a little bit moretouring of the rest of the
nation.

Speaker 2 (45:55):
We did.
We did.
My wife and I were there for,oh, about 10 days I think.
We were there.
We stayed in Munich the wholetime, the outskirts of Munich,
because they have differentsuburbs, just like we do.
So we were there about 10 days.
We pretty much stayed in thewhole Bavaria portion of Germany
.
So we were out in the country.
We got to see the rolling hills, the trees.

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You know, we went on theRomantic Highway.
We went to several differentcities Augsburg, of course,
munich.
We went to the ChristmasVillage, rothenburg, which is
super cool.
If you ever go to Germany, goto Rothenburg.
It's a medieval city that stillstands.
It still exists.
It was built in like 1850 or900.

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The original walls are stillthere.
All the buildings inside areoriginal and they take a lot of
pride in that and preserving theexteriors of these facilities.
So they look the same.
Of course, when you step insideof them they're more modern.
You know they've gotelectricity and stuff.
They still look old, but theyplumbing and electricity, things
like that.
That was a super, super coolcity.

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When you get in there you haveto drive through the gate.
Uh, that presumably that's howthey entered the city back in
the day and initially that'swhere the gps was taking us.
And I turned out of there rightquick because I'm like this
doesn't seem right'm drivingthrough this gate on this
cobblestone road and my plan washey, tammy, we're going to go
around the backside and go inanother way.

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She's like oh, okay, we ranaround the backside to a dead
end with the GPS and we couldn'tget anywhere.
So I'm like, well, I guesswe're driving back around and
we're going to go through thegate and see what happens,
because the GPS was taking us toour hotel.
I surprised my wife we're goingto stay in Rothenburg one night,
because the plan she kind ofhad laid out it would have taken

(47:43):
us about six hours to get therefrom Munich, stopping at these
other cities along the way onthe Romantic Highway.
I'm like, well, that'll be funand all, but my wife's most
important thing she wanted to dothere was go to the Christmas
village in Rothenburg.
She's a big holiday nut.
So I'm like, well, we're goingto stay in Rothenburg one night.
So that's what we did.
So the GPS is taking us throughthe gate and I'm like driving

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through, you know, and I'm inthis little twin go at this
point in time I'm off.
Explain how I got this thing.
This little twin go manualputts them through this thing
and if you've ever been toRothenburg anybody out there
listening or watching there's asea of people in there, huge
tourist attraction.
So I'm driving presumablythrough Main Street Rothenburg,

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if you could call that and thesea is just parting the people
ever so slowly.
So I'm in first gear probably,driving three miles an hour
uphill through Rothenburg andI'm like, oh my God, am I
supposed to be in this road?
I don't know if I'm supposed tobe there.
I'm like looking at all thepeople, like they're not yelling
at me.

Speaker 1 (48:48):
Maybe this is okay.

Speaker 2 (48:49):
So I'm creeping my way through them and then
there's a few side streets inthere, not many.
But then all of a sudden a carcame down a side street and went
in front of me and I'm like, oh, all, right, I must be okay.
So then we made our way up tothe town square, took a left,
took another left and that'swhere the hotel was.
So, yes, you can drive throughthere.
That's how people get in andout of there in their cars.

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You just have to drive slow.
And that's one thing aboutgermany everybody has a right
away, but people and vehicles,so you, you're the one that has
to wait.
So awesome, awesome, cool townrothenburg was.
We went, did some of thechristmas shops, we got some
christmas ornaments, had themshipped back home.
We did like a knight's watchmantour there.

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When it got dark out, a guydressed up his old old Knights
Watchmen would tell you somehistory about Rothenburg and he
has a lantern and he would leadyou around the city and you'd
stop and he'd talk about it andstop here, and talk about it and
stop here.
So that was really cool.
And then in the morning ofRothenburg we went to Medieval
Torture Museum.
So that was interesting rightthere in Rothenburg.

(49:53):
You get to go in there and seeall the devices that were used
back in those times to torturehuman beings.
Oh wow, and there were a lot ofthem.

Speaker 1 (50:03):
Oh, I bet there wasn't just a couple in there.

Speaker 2 (50:06):
So there was like shame masks, shame boots,
barrels that they would putpeople in.

Speaker 1 (50:11):
These days, you just get shamed online, exactly.

Speaker 2 (50:17):
Isn't that the truth?
Just crazy stuff in there.
They had books from like athousand eighty, like open for
you to look at, like who's seena book with that type of
penmanship and that type ofgothic writing and german
writing from back then and theydid write them and read
sometimes too, and that was just.

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That was just mind-boggling tome to see a book that old
talking about torture, you know.
So we did that there and I ateat some good restaurants there,
everywhere you eat.
Food in germany is super good.
The next day we went tonuremberg.
We mostly went there for moreof the historical world war, so
a lot of Nazi stuff there.

(50:57):
That's where kind of the Naziparty formed and started and
held rallies.
So we did a few things therepertaining to that, just to kind
of fill my cup up of some thattype of history stuff, since I
was over there.
So that was interesting to seesome of those things.
And now it's a park, but theycall it the Nazi Party rally
grounds and if you watch a lotof documentaries, a lot of

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what's depicted there is whenHitler is standing out on that
platform, you know, with his armup doing his salute or whatever
you want to call it, and youcan see all the SS and rows
underneath them, and then it'skind of like a stadium, like
looking thing.
Well, that area still existsand you can actually stand on
that platform right where hestood.
So I took it upon myself tostand in that spot and I was

(51:41):
just kind of taking pictures andthen comparing it to what it
looked like then to now.
There's trees and stuff likethat, and the building that's
right behind him when he'sstanding there is the one that
has the swastika on top, that alot of documentaries famously
get blown up when you see that,where the swastika just goes.
So that's that spot.

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I forget exactly the building,what it's called and stuff, but
just to kind of be at thosehistorical, super significant
moments in history was kind ofpretty cool.
So we did the Nuremberg thingand obviously I'm a big fan of
auto racing.
You know that.
Well, the Nuremberg ring isthere too, obviously in
Nuremberg, so that was supercool for me to actually walk on

(52:22):
part of the track and stuff.
Oh wow, and that was a goodtime.
We went to some castles.
I can't pronounce the names ofthem so I'm not going to try,
but the castle that's modeledafter the Disney or the Disney
castle, the castle that they gotthe idea from there's probably
the most famous one in Germanyeverybody goes to I know which

(52:43):
one you're talking about,because I want to say that.

Speaker 1 (52:46):
So, after we had left , brother and sister-in-law and
Amanda stayed, did the sameromantic road, did they get down
?
To those.
I don't know if they got tothat particular one, but they
were talking about going to her.
So I'm aware of what it is.
I just don't remember.

Speaker 2 (52:59):
I can't remember the names of them and I can't say
anything in German.
Anyways, I would butcher theshit out of beer, so beer yeah.
Beer are.
So we went to a couple castles,toured them.
Those are a lot of fun, supercool, super interesting to to be
in a real castle.
You know the architecture isawesome.
Interesting thing to me aboutthe castles like they're big but

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they're not that big.
It's kind of that was my takeon them.
I'm like they're big.
I'm not trying to say they'renot because they are.
They're obviously bigger thanmy house and your house combined
and stuff.
But I guess you would thinkwhen you walk inside of them
they would be more grandiosethan they are.

Speaker 1 (53:36):
Just going to say the exact same word.
Yeah, you conjure this idea ofa gigantic, grandiose ballroom
with all the things, and it's no, it's just a big house it's a
big, big house.

Speaker 2 (53:48):
Yeah, some of the rooms aren't that big, like some
of the main sitting areas arepretty big, but I guess I
thought it would be biggerinside and some of them are the
two that we toured anyways.
So that was a lot of fun.
We went to Augsburg for aminute.
We toured Munich, took a dayand just drove around Munich,
check Munich out.
We pretty much found the Rodeodrive of Germany.

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We pretty much found the RodeoDrive of Germany.
When we were over there, Iwalked by Ferraris, lamborghinis
, here's Gucci, here's LouisVuitton, here's this, here's
that, while I'm wearing my whiteplaid shorts and my Miller Lite
T-shirt.
So I felt a little out of placethere because that's not what I
do, but super neat area.
One thing that really stood outto me about Germany is how

(54:32):
clean it is, especially theBavaria portion, the cities we
were in.
There is no trash.
There's next to no graffiti.
Germans like to smoke theircigarettes versus Americans,
I've noticed you don't even finda cigarette butt on the ground.
It was super clean.
They care about what's going onthere.
You don't findMcDonaldcdonald's bags pop tops.

Speaker 1 (54:54):
You know, yes, litter just flowing around all over
the place.

Speaker 2 (54:57):
There's none of that over there berlin has more
graffiti.

Speaker 1 (55:00):
But yeah, same thing, that really not a lot of trash
necessarily super clean.

Speaker 2 (55:04):
Yeah, boy, what else do we do?
The public transportation, likeyou said, super easy to
navigate per se.
I guess, compared to Americanstuff, you can get anywhere on
public transportation there.
But I had a little differentexperience than you when it came
to public transportation.
Our plan was to use that thewhole time.

(55:25):
Now, I'm glad we didn't.
I'm glad we rented a car thevery next day, saved time and we
got to do more than we thoughtwe were going to be able to do.
But we woke up at 5 am to get onthis bus, get over to this bus
and this bus was going to takeus to the castles.
That was our first day inMunich and we got to the bus

(55:48):
that said it would bring you tothe castles 30 minutes before
we're to get there.
Well, the bus never showed upand we had tickets at 11 AM to
get into the first castle andthere's no refunds and you can't
go.
Two hours later they're like,nah, you're too late, and then
it's right, boot you out of theline.
So wait for the bus.
The bus never shows up.
Well, we thought well, there's atrain station over there where

(56:11):
we came from.
Let's go back there and usingthe app so you can take this
train.
We'll take you out there.
Okay, fine, the train nevershowed up.
So now we're like, oh my gosh,we're gonna miss.
We paid the money to go seethese castles and we're not
gonna be there.
So we're like, you know what?
We're just gonna rent a car,which was really my wife's plan.
The whole time, of course, meit was like, oh, let's take

(56:32):
public transportation, you know,because I always drive when we
go on vacations and I like todrive, no problem with that.
But you know, as a driver youdon't get to see as much stuff
because you're focused on whatyou're trying to do.
So in my mind I thought, well,maybe I can relax on this trip.

Speaker 1 (56:49):
A little less pressure, a little less.

Speaker 2 (56:51):
Just enjoy what we're doing and be a little more
carefree.
Yeah Well, that didn't work outso well because the bus and
train never showed up.
So we went to rent a car.
Got to Enterprise on the nextcity away, asked the guy at the
counter like hey, what's up withthat?
He's like you know, germany hasworld-class public

(57:14):
transportation.
Every little city has its ownand they're privately owned.
It, owned, it, owned it.
They're privately owned.
They work really well.
You can get every everywhereyou want.
But the public transportationwhere you go from, like, one
side of the country to the other, or longer trips, he said
there's one line that runs thatand he said, said they suck.
He said Germans don't like them, nobody likes them, they're

(57:35):
terrible.
And it just so happened the onethat we needed to get to the
castles, that was.
It Was the one you're notsupposed to take, right?
So we rented a car from thereand that's how we explored
Munich from that way.
First we had a Volvo XC90, sowe were on the Autobahn for two
days with that.

Speaker 1 (57:52):
That'll work.
Yeah, that'll play.

Speaker 2 (57:53):
And then we had to bring that back because we
initially wanted a compact andthey didn't have any available.
So they gave us this super,premium, fun, fast car.

Speaker 1 (58:02):
And then we ended up in a little Twingo, which is a
little three-cylinder,five-speed under five speed,
which and I you can correct meif I'm wrong, but I had heard at
one point in time that ifyou're traveling to germany,
like the, a lot of their smallervehicles will sometimes be sold
out.
But otherwise they will alsolook at americans and be like,
okay, we're going to give you abig vehicle because americans

(58:23):
like big vehicles.
I mean, we got the big giantsuvs and trucks and things like
that or whatever.
Problem is that in germanythere's no parking spots for
them because it's all built forlike the twin go type of size.
So like did the twin go workout, at least from that
standpoint?

Speaker 2 (58:36):
It was awesome, like I wouldn't have wanted anything
bigger driving around.
Germany.
You could fit that thinganywhere you want park anywhere.
It worked out superb for that.

Speaker 1 (58:45):
We didn't.
We didn't have a vehicle.
We rented it to go from Berlinto Munich.
So have a vehicle.
We rented it to go from Berlinto Munich, so we did have it, I
guess the one day.
But yeah, even when we got it,like there was minimal parking
anywhere and all the spotsweren't very big so to be able
to get like everybody crammed inthere and it was tight in the
vehicle, don't get me wrong, itwas tight and it didn't go great
, but it was acceptable and itworked for what we were doing.

(59:07):
But yeah, you don't want tohave.
If they try to upgrade you bygiving you a big three-seat suv,
I wouldn't do it.
Don't take it, take the.
Take the little cheap car it's.

Speaker 2 (59:18):
It's worth your time and your effort, I think it
would make it a lot easier foryou driving around germany with
just a small little compact forsure.
Oh, what else did we do?
I don't know.
We did so much stuff.
We went to bavarian palace.
When we were there most of theday, that was really cool.
Going into the different roomsthat was more huge than the

(59:38):
castles.
It's like more you're walkinglike, oh my gosh, you know
paintings thousands of years oldall over the place.
The gardens were awesome.
There's different buildings onthe grounds that you'd take you
like 30 minutes to walk tobecause the grounds were huge.
We went to the BMW Museum.
So if you're ever in Germany,even if you don't like cars, you

(59:59):
go to the BMW Museum.
Right, it was so interactive.

Speaker 1 (01:00:03):
We talked about that, but we were unsure.
We ran out of time so weweren't going to be able to do
it, but we did talk about thatsame thing.
We're like man.

Speaker 2 (01:00:10):
maybe it's not anything uh, yeah, it is yeah
perfect, if you don't like cars,you still go it's still worth
doing it it was super futuristic, super modern, very interactive
.
It was probably five storieshigh by five, six blocks it was
huge like it's an all day thingand they have every BMW car in

(01:00:31):
there you can possibly want tosee.
They have many Coopers in theirMercedes Benz in there, the
nine series.
You know the $250,000 carsitting right there you can
touch and look at and you canget in.
They have old cars.
They've got every enginethey've ever built on a
different floor in there thatyou can look at all stripped
down.
They have like an electric carchassis in there that you can

(01:00:54):
look at stripped down so you cankind of see how they're put
together.
They have a hydrogen car inthere stripped down to the
chassis.
Everything you can put racecars, indy car, anything bmw is
made, floors of motorcycles,cars hanging from the ceiling,
from the wall.
Like there was robots runningaround in there.
I didn't even know what theywere for, but they're just
walking around doing their thingin there too.

Speaker 1 (01:01:16):
It's like the movie WALL-E they're just cleaning
yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:01:19):
That's probably what I was doing.
Actually, there's bars in there.
You can go up to the bar, get abeer and walk around with a
beer in hand.
You could drive a car in thereIf you were in there to purchase
a BMW car.
Part of the track where youtest drive is inside this
facility, so you could seepeople driving their cars around

(01:01:39):
.
It was something else.

Speaker 1 (01:01:42):
I want to say that I thought that it was I don't
remember if it was that orMercedes that I had heard, that
I had heard If you order a cardirectly from them, that's part
of the process of buying is theyactually want you to come there
and test drive the car.
They want you to actually cometo the factory and see all of
the stuff.
So kind of an impressive deal.

Speaker 2 (01:02:02):
Yeah, it really was.
So go there check it out.
I was sold out.
We were trying to get tickets,too, to go into the, because
right next to this fivesix-block museum, the building
over is the manufacturer linewhere they actually manufacture
the BMWs.
But those tours were sold outso we didn't get a chance to go
in there and see them beingbuilt.

(01:02:23):
But it was awesome in the BMWmuseum, like I definitely worth
it.
Well, I don't know what else wedid.
We did so much stuff, right,did some parks, all the food we
ate of all the places we ate, Ithought the food was awesome,
except for those potatodumplings.
Those things are terrible yeah,they weren't great but the pork

(01:02:45):
is amazing.
The roasted pork is awesome, thepork knuckles knuckle is
awesome the italian food we hadwas awesome because you know
italy's like right over there.
I will say what I foundinteresting, though, about
germany is the food options inthe bavaria portion are super
limited.
You get german, chinese oritalian, that's it.
You know, there really isn'tfast food there.

(01:03:06):
I did see mcdonald's and thekfc, but it's not traditional
fast food where you drivethrough.
There's no drive-through.
If you want McDonald's, you goin, you sit down and you eat
your meal.

Speaker 1 (01:03:17):
You don't bring with you.

Speaker 2 (01:03:18):
They don't have to-go boxes and bags for all the
litter stuff.
But what I mean by the foodoptions being limited is if you
ate at a German restaurant overhere and then you went five
miles over here in a different,completely different german
restaurant, different owners,different company they serve the
same stuff.
It's just two different places.
So even when you go todifferent german restaurants

(01:03:41):
like your, options are stilllimited you don't get like
different german food here,different german food here, you
know.
So I thought that wasinteresting, like my wife wanted
a pierogi, you know.
Like your wife had a pierogi.
Tammy's like oh, let's go findsome Polish food.
We went to our hotel clerk.
You know, hey, where's a realgood place to get some pierogis

(01:04:02):
or Polish food.
She laughed.
She's like what do you mean?
I kind of wanted to try like areal pierogi.
She's like we don't have Polishfood here.
Well, what do you mean?
Poland's like right over there.
Right there.
Yeah, so that was interestingthat it was food options were
kind of limited there.

Speaker 1 (01:04:17):
Yeah, so Berlin is.
We talked to one of thebartenders which, ironically,
like the bartender in the bar,in the hotel apartment, it was
basically an apartment,short-term rent apartment.
We were there like four daysbut the bar that was kind of
built into the same building wewent to was kind of like a pop

(01:04:38):
punk or not pop, like more of apunk bar.
It was a little bit odd but itwas still cool.
It was a fun place.
Bartender was super nice, easyto talk to, whatever.
He was actually originally fromLouisiana and ended up in
Germany via LA and New York.
So you know, he just is.
He had a buddy that was openingthe thing.
He's like you want to come andhelp run the thing, and so he
ended up in Germany.
So it was a little bit of adifferent deal but a very

(01:05:00):
American experience, I guess,from that standpoint, but in
talking with him.
So Berlin has a lot more ofthat.
There's a lot more variety ofChinese and Italian and we
actually, me and Amanda, went toMexican one night Like there
was a whole wide variety ofdifferent types of foods there
and when I was asking him aboutthat, I'm like it was a little
bit surprising, like I thoughtit'd be a little bit more

(01:05:25):
traditional, a little bit morenarrow, kind of like that.
And he said so the more thesouthern region of Germany is
very narrow, focus for mealoptions.

Speaker 2 (01:05:33):
Traditional type.

Speaker 1 (01:05:34):
Yeah, but northern mostly because of adjacency to
certain things, certaindifferent countries, but Berlin
especially, mostly because ofthe long history of the
political things that they'vegone through, through they tend
to be a lot more of.
That's where, like, migrantswill end up, that's where they

(01:05:56):
go.

Speaker 2 (01:05:56):
so if they're yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:05:57):
So if they're going from somewhere they don't go to,
like munich or other places ingermany, they all go to just to
berlin, and so the wide varietyof cultural options that are out
there in Berlin is a lot morethan pretty much anywhere else
in the country, because it'sjust, it's such a more large
melting pot of a lot of it is,you know, whether it's

(01:06:20):
oppression or, you know, justfleeing the homeland or whatever
it is, like these debts.
You know people will come hereand then they'll be here for a
couple of years and then they'llmove on and then they'll be.
You know the Turks will comehere and then they'll be here
for a couple of years and thenthey'll move out and then
they'll be.
You know the Turks will comehere and then they'll be here
for a couple of years and thenthey'll move on, and then
Italians will come here Likeit's a lot more of that that
goes through there.
It's a little more.

(01:06:41):
He said it's very progressiveand forward, except for when it
comes to technology, which isweird, because in my mind I
think Germans a lot more forwardwith technology.
But I did experience that too.
Where it's like, the technologyseemed like I'm like it's just
like the nineties or almost theeighties not a ton going, but it
was.
It was really cool, you know itwas.

(01:07:01):
It was a little different.
Yeah, it's a little bitdifferent than than Munich from
that standpoint, but it soundslike similar to Seattle.

Speaker 2 (01:07:07):
If you've ever been out to Seattle, anything you
could possibly want to eat is inSeattle, and a large part of
that is a lot of people fromother nations and they immigrate
.
They end up in Seattle.
So it sounds pretty similar towhat you're talking about in
Berlin there, versus where wewere at in Munich or the Bavaria
portion of Germany.

Speaker 1 (01:07:27):
So it's actually kind of a good little transition
here is we again don't have aspecific brew, we're just doing
a moose head today.
I shouldn't say just doingmoose head, it's more of an
homage to the very first episodethat we did.
So we're not doing, we're kindof talking about Oktoberfest and
some of our past episodes thatwe've enjoyed and things like

(01:07:47):
that.
But to kind of change gears alittle bit, looking forward, you
mentioned Seattle, like that'swhere our friends that had sent
us some beer from Germany Was itSpotten the optimator that we
got there?
But upcoming in the nexthandful of episodes, some of the
things to look forward, we'regoing to talk about Kona.

(01:08:08):
We're going to talk about andnow I'm failing to remember what
the name of it is but there's agrapefruit Hefeweizen that we
also got from them out inSeattle that they had found some
, that when we were in Berlin wewere traveling around or
whatever.
Me and Alan were like we'regoing to stop and get some
optimator, you know, while we'rewaiting for the girls to show
up there.
And sure enough, on the shelfwas this grapefruit Hefeweizen

(01:08:29):
which was phenomenal, it wasvery good.
You wouldn't even notice it waskind of a wheat, kind of beer.
It just got grapefruit out ofit, but very good.
But those are some of thethings kind of coming forward I
guess for some of the futureepisodes and, as Sean mentioned,
get some people in here.
We got the extra spot to beable to get in here with kind of

(01:08:49):
the upgraded table and studiospace that we have here, likely
take our show on the road in acouple of different places, be
able to go live on location to acouple of different places.
Well, logistically he's gotsome things to figure out, but
we'll be live out at a couple ofdifferent places and, yeah,
lots to look forward to as well.

Speaker 2 (01:09:08):
Yeah, that's about that.
Yeah, yeah, we have anotherbeer coming too, from a
brother-in-law that gave it tous.
I don't know the name of iteither, but it comes in a wine
bottle and it's from Denmark,and you actually have to pull a
cork to get it out.
So that'll be one other onecoming up here soon too, in the
mix anyways.

Speaker 1 (01:09:25):
And we've talked a little bit about.
Even earlier today.
We talked a little bit aboutsome seltzers and the potential
of maybe doing a seltzer reviewor some things like that.
It's not going to be White Clawor anything like that,
something like that, or even CBDbeers, so we've also talked
about that a little bit.
About you know, having thatinvolvement with this.
So, kind of, we're wide open.
So if you have any ideas, wehave a lot of ideas and a lot of

(01:09:48):
plans.
But again, I think we say itmost every time if you have an
idea or a thought or somethingyou'd like us to talk about or
do the history of you know, dropit in the comments and put it
out there and we'll do our bestto be able to track it down and
find out what information we canand try to be able to help you
out on that one as well.

Speaker 2 (01:10:05):
So, yeah, anything else that you got, uh well, I'm
gonna ask you one thing realquick because, it's happening.
This episode will come outafter it's over, but who you got
Mike Tyson or Jake Paul?

Speaker 1 (01:10:16):
Oh, I'm going to take Mike Tyson, mostly because I
just hate Paul.
I know that he keeps winningall of his matches and so I get
that he's got some talent.
And Mike Tyson is also.
I think he's got his AARP card.
Yeah, it was like 60 now orsomething.
Yeah.
But at the same time, like Idon't know, mike Tyson seems

(01:10:39):
like the guy that he could justtake a punch, and when he levels
one out at you, like you'regoing to know that it's there.
So I'm going to say Tyson onthat one.
But again, I don't know thatit's necessarily skill related,
it's more I just hate Jake Paul.

Speaker 2 (01:10:54):
Yeah, I agree.
I hope Mike Tyson wins.
I mean, age is quite the thing.
It looks like from his trainingvideos.
He looks like he's reallyfreaking bulked up man.
He looks like the Iron Mike heused to be.
But you are 60.
Jake Paul's what?
25?
, 28?

Speaker 1 (01:11:11):
I don't know, it's hard to overcome that.

Speaker 2 (01:11:13):
Yeah, but I still bet you, if Mike Tyson lands one, I
think Jake Paul's going to befeeling it a little bit.

Speaker 1 (01:11:19):
Yeah, yeah.
I don't know that he'll go down, but he may take a step back
and be like why am I in here?

Speaker 2 (01:11:25):
Okay, got to make sure I watch out for that one.
Yeah, I got mike dyson too onthat for sure, so that's this
friday.

Speaker 1 (01:11:34):
We'll find out if we're right here soon, won't we?
There we go, yeah, awesome,yeah, that'd be an interesting
one to be able to watch.
I'll be at the hockey game thatI mentioned before, so, but, uh
, got some tickets to some somehockey, so I have to work,
unfortunately.
Oh, man, you look sick already.
Yep, opt, yeah, spot anoptimator, stop, stop that.
Yeah, negative meter.
I'm making stuff up at thispoint in time.
So, yeah, that's, you know,unless you got something else,

(01:11:57):
that's our episode of, I guess,the episode of randomness.
You know it's just kind of arecapping mostly Oktoberfest.
You know it's just an absoluteblast and you know I highly
recommend it.
If you have questions about thetrip, you know, feel free again
.
Drop that in the comments aswell.

Speaker 2 (01:12:17):
The old like, share, subscribe, tell your friends
tell your neighbors, tellwhoever appreciate all that one
thing, oh one thing.
We're gonna be in the magazinesoon too, so watch out for that
article.
When that article goes live,we'll post that on our social
media pages of minnesota voyagermagazine.
Yep, so we'll be in there here.
We just did our interview lastweek.
They emailed me back today andsaid maybe another week or so
They'll let us know when it'slive and published and ready to

(01:12:39):
go.

Speaker 1 (01:12:39):
So by the time this episode comes out, likely it'll
be up on there somewhere, itshould be out there.

Speaker 2 (01:12:44):
Yeah, minnesota Voyager magazine.
So that's what we're going tobe in, cool.

Speaker 1 (01:12:47):
Yeah, that'll be a lot of fun, a great opportunity
there to be able to kind of getour voices out there, I guess,
or our mean mugs.

Speaker 2 (01:12:55):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:12:58):
Rough mugs.
So, yes, that's our episodetoday.
I hope you enjoyed it.
Again, tell everybody about it,you know, share the episode,
you know, and make sure youmention it and then give us
feedback as well, you know, ifyou like the episode or anything
with that, but then also ideasof future broadcasts to be able
to different ideas that we'realways open to be able to add

(01:13:18):
things to it going forward, andif you'd like to be a guest on
the podcast.
You know, if you got, you knowmaybe a brewery that you are
involved in or something likethat, definitely reach out.
So I like to be able to talk toeverybody and not everybody.
Some people respond, but notnot always people do.
So, you know, definitely reachout to as much as you can.
So, but yeah, until then.
I'm Andy Beckstrom.
This is Sean Field, and untilnext time, Cheers.

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