August 18, 2024 • 60 mins
Can playing pretend with your kids teach you profound lessons about fatherhood? Introducing, the unALIKE Podcast! We're here to share our opinions, challenge eachother, and compare notes on topics like fatherhood, guest etiquette, and more..
On this episode of the Unalike Podcast, join us, Sean and Josh, as we navigate through the sometimes chaotic landscapes of parenting. From donning princess crowns and using our best "girl voices" to recounting the eye-popping costs of American Girl Dolls, we share the joys and unexpected challenges that come with embracing our childrens' imaginations. We also delve into the etiquette of hosting guests and the humorous mishaps that ensue when living and entertaining merge.
Finally, we tackle the complexities of parenting styles and consumerism. From letting kids get dirty to navigating the pressures of public perception, we share our thoughts on the sacrifices parents make and the responsibilities we hold. We reminisce about our own childhood desires for video games and Pokémon cards, comparing them to today's digital obsessions. Tune in for a blend of humor, practical advice, and heartwarming stories, as we offer insights and strategies for modern parenting while celebrating the rich tapestry of our unique journeys.
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Sean (00:00):
Good morning.
Josh (00:01):
Oh yeah.
Sean (00:02):
Early morning news.
We should be meteorologists.
Josh (00:08):
Oh yeah, that'll be.
Sean (00:11):
Today's weather.
Josh (00:14):
In Martinsburg, west Virginia, we might see a tornado
.
I'm Sean, I'm Josh and this isthe Unalike Podcast and we're
going to talk about ways thatwere the same but different.
Two unlikely friends, you mightsay.
How would you describe the show?
Sean (00:36):
Yeah, a lot of perceptions the same and I think we're
going to find out.
We're going to have somedifferent perceptions on things.
For sure, yeah, I mean meanthat's very likely, uh, so oh,
so we met through our wives,that's true, and I don't even
know how many years ago.
Josh (00:57):
And then we just kept meeting wedding after wedding,
weddings my wedding you werethere, and then, uh, and then I
moved here, moving west virginia, in 2021, I think, and uh,
happily ever after, right josh,exactly.
Uh, let's see, we're both,we're both family men, both have
(01:23):
uh children.
Sean (01:25):
I got two kids I have one kid, one daughter, right um, hmm
, okay, similarities,similarities end right there,
right, that's it.
Right.
One thing is a big similarityboth being married, both having
(01:50):
kids, both kind of living, thesame type of husband-father
lives.
Josh (01:57):
Yeah, I would imagine there's some similarities there,
for sure, although I mean, I'mjust going to say this right off
the bat you have a verydifferent home life, my friend.
Uh, how many chores do you doat home?
Sean (02:10):
um, you know, I mean specifically when it comes to
chores, um, we do have goats.
Okay, I water, I water thegoats water the goats, is that
how?
You say it mow the lawn yeahand um, you know, take a bullet
(02:32):
for the family okay, yeah, ofcourse, if an invader comes.
Josh (02:34):
Yes, that's a good, that's a forever chore.
Sean (02:37):
Yeah, yeah so when it comes to you know the dishes you
know how the washing machineworks I do not.
Um, when I do the dishes tosurprise my wife, I hand wash
them.
That's how I've always done it.
I enjoy hand washing.
And uh, the problem is when shecomes home and I surprise her
(02:59):
with washing the dishes, shedoesn't find it much of a
surprise because she's got toredo them all.
Right, she's like wow, you didsomething.
I did every single day.
Josh (03:11):
Yes, you're like, look at me.
Sean (03:14):
But I mean, does it count that dish washing if you just
put them in the dishwasher?
Josh (03:20):
I think so.
You know, it's a good 10minutes of work.
That's true it's you know it'suh, you have these chairs, bro,
I'm gonna get some rolling matsover here.
Um, let me see how far I canlean back.
Can I chill this far?
Yeah, so I mean, yeah, that'sthat's, uh, that's a little
(03:45):
different on my end.
You know, I'm uh, I'm uh.
We're kind of split down themiddle when it comes to house
chores.
Uh, a new, a new age household,if you will, you know, so I'm
doing, uh, doing the dishes orwashing clothes.
Um, I mean, take care of thepool.
Sean (04:03):
I would say, that's how most houses are run.
Josh (04:07):
You've got something special going on.
Man don't let your wife watchthis and realize that that's not
normal it's the goats.
They take up all my choresthere's no possible time for
anything else exactly.
Sean (04:21):
That's 10 minutes out of the day.
Water in the hay yeah.
Josh (04:27):
so there we go, but I think in terms of raising our
kids, we're probably similar inthat regard.
I don't know my family growingup.
My dad wasn't super active inthe upbringing of us kids.
Sean (04:43):
He was around.
Josh (04:43):
He wasn't absent like the the upbringing of us kids.
Um, you know he was around.
He wasn't like absent, butwasn't like every day hanging
out with us, taking us placeswhere I think both of us enjoy
doing that.
We like to go out and right youknow, take our, take our family
places experiences do, do stuffright, and I mean growing up.
Sean (04:59):
It was a little different for me.
Um, my dad worked a lot everyday, but we were always doing
something, uh, whether it wasgoing to nascar races, uh, one
time we were into wwe wrestling.
We were going to wrestlinghowever you say wrestling you
(05:21):
know wrestling um, but like wekind of all.
Who's your favorite wrestler,by the way?
Oh, dwayne Johnson.
Josh (05:28):
Oh, okay, okay.
I'm more of a Stone Cold SteveAustin fan.
You know what I'm saying.
I mean Like an alcoholic figureas a child who's just really.
Sean (05:38):
It just hit home you know, in his word usage I mean that
was perfect for an idol to lookup to.
Yeah, you know, exactly yeah.
Josh (05:46):
I mean, I was watching Sopranos when I was like seven
and swearing pretty early onSwearing was just swear words
were adjectives in my house.
Sean (05:55):
Yeah, mine started about middle school.
It went from like zero to 100with the swearing real fast.
Yeah, the swing real fast.
Josh (06:03):
Yeah, did you get?
Did you ever have limitationsat home about um like?
Sean (06:14):
uh, video games or anything like that that you
could play, or Um, not really.
Josh (06:18):
I mean it was pretty or like shows you could watch or
whatever.
Sean (06:20):
Yeah, show wise.
Um.
I mean, everything startedabout middle school, though.
Once I got introduced to hiphop and watching those videos
sneaking to watch those videos Istarted to learn a lot more
that was out there that I didn'tknow the darn hip hop, terrible
(06:44):
influence, the, the those uhparental advisory stickers
really got you yeah, there wasno parental advisory on the
videos with what?
Some of the things I've seen inearly age yeah, my, my parents
didn't really mind.
Josh (07:02):
I guess they didn't filter what I was watching or the
music I was listening to oranything, or video games I was
playing.
Maybe they should have.
I was playing Grand Theft Autoprobably way too young, but I
did play some Grand Theft Autoyeah stuff I would never do with
my kids.
Like you know, my son is 7 andthere is no chance I'd let him
play Grand Theft Auto right?
Sean (07:23):
now, right, I think movie-wise I'm a little more
lenient with my daughterWatching.
Just recently, or a couple daysago, we watched Scarface.
No, we haven't got there.
The Scarface poster is still atmy parents' house above my bed,
right next to pamela anderson.
(07:50):
Uh, yes, on the bathroom doorthere was a um sports
illustrated uh poster, classicum, but we just watched in game
uh avengers in game.
Josh (07:59):
Okay, well, you know the.
I feel like the superhero stuffis a little bit softer.
It's a good intro into violence.
Sean (08:06):
It is the next morning she woke up.
I'm like, okay, are we ready tostart from the beginning and
watch Captain America?
No, no, I need a couple daysbreak.
There was a lot of dust in themoment we just watched, so I
wasn't expecting that the firstthing in the morning.
Yeah, that's funny.
So, speaking of that, when itcomes to being the father, what?
(08:30):
What is your favorite thinglike?
What is your one of your topfavorite things about being a
dad?
Josh (08:33):
top favorite things about being a dad.
You know it's different, Ithink, with different ages.
Like I forgot about thisbecause my son is seven now but
you know, when he was little,just him hitting these
milestones so rapidly.
So now I have a daughter who'syounger my daughter's a year and
a half.
Seeing her hit these milestonesand be able to say stuff like I
(08:56):
love you, dada, that's awesome.
But with my son being a littlebit older, his milestones are
still just as exciting andthey're different, but they're
just, you know, less frequent.
Right, they go through slowertransitions as they get older,
but I guess it's just rewardingwatching my family grow and be
together and, you know, makememories and stuff like that.
(09:18):
Like in general just the fact ofbeing a dad, I think, is great.
Sean (09:23):
Right, and I agree with all aspects of that.
One thing I battle is betweensometimes like you go to bed at
night and you hear dad, mom, andI'm like, oh my gosh, I got to
wake up.
But then the next day I'm likeit's still nice to be needed.
(09:44):
Ah, sure, yeah, for sure Likethat's the part Like, oh my gosh
, when she wakes up in themiddle of the night, or she's
scared or she can't fall asleep,like you're still there and
needed to comfort.
Josh (09:57):
The protector figure, right, or even just like, yeah,
being their source of comfortand reassurance and stuff like
that.
Yeah, I get you that's, that'scool and that's not gonna last
long, right?
Like I mean, shoot, I thinkboth of our older kids are gonna
probably stop needing us somuch, you know, right?
(10:21):
I mean now it's only, it's onlyto be less and less and it'll
be more and more about money,probably as they get older.
It's like one of my dad'sfavorite books to read to me.
I think I didn't bring a copy,but was the Giving Tree.
You ever read the Giving Tree?
I have heard of the Giving TreeKid's book, but I think it's
(10:42):
really for the parents that arereading it, and it's about the
son or child that spends timewith the tree, which is like the
parent figure, and wants fromit, like eventually wants the
wood for, I think, making ahouse and there's less and less
(11:05):
of the tree left as the bookprogresses and then there's
nothing but a stump at the end.
So one day, josh, you and I areboth going to be stumps.
And that's the thing too, like Ifeel like you're always going
to be needed, like I mean,there's times Well, yeah, the
old boy at the end of that booksits on the stump for a nice
place to rest Right, and old boyat the end of that book sits on
(11:26):
the stump for a nice place torest right it's just a different
kind of need when they'reyounger.
Sean (11:28):
Yeah, that's the thing, like whole different kind of
need.
Yeah, no doubt so.
When you get to your mostfavorite thing, what would be
something?
So, for instance, something Ifind annoying but also like it's
still enjoyable.
Josh (11:49):
An enjoyable annoyance.
Yeah, all right, hit me.
Sean (11:51):
So my thing is with having a daughter yeah, she has all
the unicorns, she has all theBarbies, she has all the baby
dolls oh, yeah, of course.
So when she asks me to play, Ialways have to be a girl.
Yeah, you're a princess dad, soyeah, of course.
So when she asked me to play, Ialways have to be a girl.
Josh (12:07):
Yeah, you're Princess.
Sean (12:08):
Dad, so yeah.
Josh (12:09):
Princess Dad.
Sean (12:11):
So there could be multiple prince, prince, kings, whatever
they are, as she calls them.
And we also have plenty of kindolls, but for some reason I
still always have to be the girl.
So I have plenty of Ken dolls,but for some reason I still
always have to be the girl.
So 45 minutes of playing it'salways.
Dad, you've got to use yourgirl voice.
It's not a boy, it's a girl,she enforces it.
Josh (12:34):
So I'm like there's a Ken right here.
Sean (12:37):
There's Prince Charming right here.
Josh (12:38):
She's like no, I switched characters.
She's like uh-uh.
Sean (12:45):
So I mean, most of the time when we play, I'm a girl,
yes, but I also find it funny aswhen I do finally get to be a
male character a Ken, a boy,unicorn I still change my voice.
Josh (12:56):
I don't use my own voice.
Do you ever go to work and useit?
Sean (13:01):
There's probably times where it comes out, but yeah,
like I just can't use my normalvoice for ken it's hey, I'm ken.
Josh (13:09):
yeah yeah, you know, my son doesn't play much pretend.
I think you know that he's justinto different stuff, but
already I could see mydaughter's going down that that
rabbit hole.
You know, we just got anamerican doll the other day, oh
yeah.
Sean (13:26):
Economy-wise, they're very good prices.
Josh (13:29):
Oh yeah.
Yeah, I was like dude, we arenot buying a $125 doll, and sure
enough we did.
That is exactly what happened.
I think we're probably going tobe.
I'm going to be doing girl dadvoices in a while, in a couple
more years.
Right now I can use my normalvoice.
That's lucky for you, yeahthat's why you can.
Sean (13:52):
But the thing with American Girl Dolls you always
have the appointments you canset up for for haircuts, for
haircuts, tea parties.
Oh boy, at least somebody elsecan use the girl's voice at that
time.
Josh (14:06):
Oh my gosh, this stuff is crazy.
I'm going to borrow all theknockoff stuff from Target.
I've decided Nobody knows.
Nobody knows the difference.
No, if they do, they're notwelcome in my house.
Speaking of which, I wanted toask you, when you have people
who come visit your house youknow, come visit not just for
like hanging out for the day,but like someone's going to stay
(14:27):
with you what are some thingsthat they do, they could do?
That might might be like get onyour nerves, like things that
are, you know, I don't useannoying because it's a strong
word.
I don't want to hurt anybody'sfeelings who've been to your
house, but, uh, you know,someone does something you're
like, oh, maybe he breaks upyour routine, right, or like
(14:48):
messes up your mojo.
What do you think?
Sean (14:51):
um, I think one thing that leads up to that is stopping
over unannounced oh right no,that's just not acceptable no um
you know, sometimes nobody'sever in your neighborhood.
Josh (15:05):
anyway, what are they doing?
Sean (15:07):
You know, sometimes I just uh, have my day already planned
.
I was laying on the couch andwatching something and you hear
a knock at the door.
I mean that's fine, um comingto their house.
I don't know, I'm pretty goodwith like whatever.
Um do you ever have guests?
Um, very, stay the night?
Does stay the night?
No, I'm pretty good with likewhatever.
Do you ever have guests thisday of the night, this day of
the night?
(15:27):
No, never have guests this dayof the night, never.
Josh (15:30):
No, oh, okay, well, there you go.
Well, you're not going to haveany annoyances about that, then,
will you?
Sean (15:34):
No, there's literally a hotel up the road.
Josh (15:39):
He circumvented that completely, like oh yeah, I got
you a room at the helen right.
No, I mean, if somebody cameover and they had a couple
drinks or needed somewhere, youlet them crash on the couch.
Sean (15:53):
Yeah, the couch is fantastic as long as you're gone
before they wake up.
Before you wake up, right,right, I mean food wise, good
luck.
I mean, usually we buy foodjust enough to get us through
the week, but I'm sure there'ssomething in there they could
snack on.
Yeah, yeah, no drinks.
I've learned you don't buydrinks.
No, not really Water, tap water.
Were you a juice?
Josh (16:12):
kid growing up, did you have juice and sodas?
Sean (16:15):
Yeah, that's a good question.
I don't even remember.
Josh (16:19):
I feel like there was families who were just water
families, which is what we'vebecome pretty much, and then
there's the kids who got all thesugary juices and the barrel
drums.
Sean (16:28):
I mean, the only thing I can remember is maybe like Sunny
D.
Josh (16:29):
Oh, you had Sunny D.
Yeah, I love Sunny D.
Did you get the little onesthat you could take with you, or
did you have the big ones?
Sean (16:34):
The little ones.
Oh yeah, we recently got mydaughter Sunny D.
Oh yeah, and once see, man, youcan't go wrong.
Josh (16:42):
yeah, so when people come visit my house, I think, uh, uh,
there's a few things that, um,someone might do that you know
can get get on my nerves alittle bit.
Uh like, for example, um, youknow someone will will try to be
helpful when they don't need tobe like.
(17:03):
If you're my guest, I'm gonnatake care of you, know your mess
and your things and your.
When they don't need to be Like, if you're my guest, I'm going
to take care of you, know yourmess and your things and your
dishes.
I don't care, it's fine, it'snot me.
But when they try to be helpfuland they do it a way that's
different than I would do itlike they put away my dishes but
like in the wrong place, andthen you're like where the fuck
is the measuring cup?
Sean (17:25):
It's cup and it's like in a weird place, you know.
Or if they want to throw thetrash away and they got to go
through, you see them looking ohyou know like where's your
trash can.
Well, you wouldn't even have toknow where my trash can was.
Josh (17:30):
I'll take, I got it yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah.
No, that's a good one.
Yeah, it makes you feel likethey really want you to take out
the trash.
At least that's how I look atit.
When someone's trying to takeout my trash, they really want
me to take out the trash,because what they're saying is
you've neglected your trash canand it is over full right.
And now now they're trying tolike take it in their hands.
(17:51):
It's totally not necessary.
Sean (17:52):
I mean, it's not a bad idea, I'll handle the trash.
If they go throw somethingwhere your trash is full, hey,
can you get that for me?
Josh (17:58):
I'll put it outside and I'll put a new bag.
Yeah, put them to to work.
Yeah, all right, yeah yeah.
You know what I think it's whenit's their idea that I have a
problem, right?
If it was my idea, I think I'dbe all right with it.
Sean (18:14):
Yeah, I think that is one of the things that you should
almost it's almost like you'vegot to make things known when
somebody comes to your house.
Josh (18:24):
Ground rules.
Yeah, nobody's going to stay atyour fucking house.
If you've got ground rules,sign the contract.
Sean (18:31):
Like listen when you're here, don't worry about a thing.
Josh (18:34):
Okay, yeah, rule number one.
Sean (18:36):
There are no rules, like, it's easier for me to do
everything in my own house, yeah, and you not have to stress
over what your job is stayinghere yeah, that's true or being
here.
Josh (18:47):
Yeah so to anyone who comes to my house, don't do
anything, don't do my chores.
Sean (18:54):
Right.
And, for instance, anotherthing that's like, say, you
order a pizza, like when I ordera pizza, I'm carrying it to the
kitchen.
I'm already getting a piece out, oh for sure.
And when you're a guestsomewhere, it's like when is the
right time to go get my food?
Josh (19:11):
Or do I wait until somebody comes?
I'm the first guy at everyparty in the line for food, for
food, I don't give a fuck.
See, that's the.
Sean (19:17):
You know because.
Josh (19:18):
I know on the host side you want people to eat the food
you bought.
Right side, you want people toeat the food you bought right.
You don't buy the food so thatsomebody could look at it.
We recently had some, had somecompany and we had, we bought
some things, we had some thingsout and nobody ate anything.
We were like oh, what did we dowrong?
Do we get the wrong food?
Did have allergies we didn'tknow about?
I don't.
You know, as a host you wantpeople to eat the food that you
got that's where I'm the firstone in life.
Sean (19:38):
That's where the ground rules come in.
Josh (19:39):
Ground rules eat my food even if you don't like it.
I don't care if you're going toget diarrhea.
Sean (19:46):
Eat it.
That's where I become theopposite.
I'm always like middle ortowards the end of getting in
the line.
Josh (19:53):
Oh, okay, let everybody else.
Well, you know what, if thefood looks like there's a
shortage, I'm not the guygetting second helpings and
piling it on the plate.
You know what I mean.
Sean (20:10):
Yeah, but piling on the plate, you know what I mean.
Yeah, but if you go first, youcan beat some of the people the
second time.
I haven't been there yet.
I try not to do that.
Try not to do that.
Get there and the host will belike, well, we thought we had
enough.
Josh (20:13):
Yeah, but sean's over in the corner, yeah, on his third
plate well, you know nothingworse than um than being like
super hungry because youmisjudged what the party food
was going to be like.
Right, I try never to let thathappen again.
Now, like every time we havepeople over, I'm like I got
(20:33):
backup food.
Sean (20:34):
Yeah, you know, just in case, even if it's cheese sticks
, got some backup food, andthat's all the timing in the day
.
I mean one thing you're goingto notice with well, you
prioritize this, and then you'regoing to notice with um, well,
you probably already noticed,and then you're going to have to
(20:54):
do it again.
Birthday parties like the timeof day, like a birthday party at
two and three o'clock in theday it's confusing.
Josh (20:56):
It really throws me off, like, are we gonna have dinner
or are you gonna just serve?
Sean (20:59):
you know, popcorn and if they do have like decent food,
how much food do I want to eatat two or three?
Josh (21:07):
because right am I gonna eat again at seven, six, yeah,
yeah, that's true.
But kids birthday parties, man,I mean, look up your diet the.
Sean (21:19):
It all depends.
I mean, I could skip the food,but I'm always gonna eat that
cake, oh, no doubt.
Josh (21:23):
Or cupcakes now there's'm always going to eat that cake oh
, no doubt or cupcakes, now,there's no good way to eat a
cupcake, I've learned, but thereis, I think, something that
your wife does with cupcakes.
Sean (21:37):
Oh yeah, she takes it out, she breaks it in half, she
flips the top over and she makeslike a cupcake sandwich.
Josh (21:47):
Cupcake sandwich.
Sean (21:48):
I think that's probably the best thing to do it is, but
I will never do it because itruins the fact of like.
I like the biting into theicing the first thing.
Really Like I mean a cupcakeyou're supposed to get messy,
like I don't give a shit if I'msitting there.
Josh (22:01):
There's no good way to do it.
I mean even when, if cupcakesare as big as they are in
Rochester, where I'm from, youknow they make these delicate
like elaborate cupcakes thathave these, you know, tons of
big toppings they end up beinghuge and you know it's like this
much frosting.
You can't open your mouth thatbig.
Sean (22:28):
All right.
Josh (22:28):
Well, rest of dream cupcakes are not on steroids.
Sean (22:29):
Yeah, that's usually like two to three bites, yeah and
done.
But I will say it doesn'tmatter how you do a cupcake when
you have a beard like ours,you're always gonna get some
kind of icing in your beard,yeah I want cupcakes that are
half size, even just half thecake.
I'm a one-bite type person.
I like if you show up andthere's just a bunch of little
(22:51):
cupcakes.
Josh (22:52):
The mini cupcakes.
Sean (22:53):
Yeah, I can walk around and just throw one in my mouth
every so often.
Nobody will see you.
I think you just have thewrappers everywhere, yeah.
Yeah, I think you just have thewrappers everywhere, yeah.
Josh (23:05):
Yeah, speaking of which, my son started trying to hide
his snacks that he's notsupposed to have.
He hides the wrappers in placesother than the trash can for
some reason, as if that'll beharder for us to detect.
So he's got like a little.
Sean (23:31):
It's actually like a car trash can, but he put it in his
playroom and he started fillingit with like snack wrappers.
Recently found his trash stash,so like if you ever want to
have a snack and nobody to know,just blame it on him.
Josh (23:40):
Yeah put it in his trash stash.
That's smart, next levelBlaming your kids for eating
things that you're not supposedto eat.
Oh, it's so easy Top, top notch, right there, yeah.
Sean (23:52):
My daughter's new thing is the kitchen is right by the
living room and I can't see inthe kitchen.
Josh (24:06):
But you hear the cabinets and you walk out there and she
runs to the other living roomand like she's circling.
Sean (24:08):
I wasn't doing anything.
Yeah, no, not me anything well,why are the cabinets?
I wasn't doing anything like.
I really don't care if you'rehaving a snack, like it's not a
huge secret around here snacks.
That's why they would buy them,yeah but that's one thing with
uh again, with having that'ssome of the fun things that you
get to go into it Like it'sfunny because some stuff that
(24:31):
they think they're going to getin trouble for at that time
maybe I have to act serious.
But in my mind I'm like this ishilarious.
Josh (24:37):
It's not a big deal, I don't really care.
But if you think, it's wrong.
Sean (24:42):
Okay, let's go with it.
Maybe we won't do it again.
Yeah once my wife found out shewas pregnant and, um, not right
at the beginning, but you know,when the stomach starts to grow
and there's all kinds ofhormone things going on, uh,
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like that baby already becomeslike part of your life.
Josh (25:06):
Yeah, for sure.
Sean (25:06):
So you go from being protective of your wife to
automatically being protectiveof two people and you become
have that connection and I don'tsee how some people, um,
automatically just walk awayfrom that connection, like how
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it's I?
I just don't see, like whetherit's an accident or not or it
wasn't planned, like thatconnection that I have,
automatically knowing thatthat's my kid inside her stomach
, like it's a takeover of, okay,that's yours.
Now it's not an animal, youjust can't give it away.
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Yeah, you know, I think uh likethere's the.
Josh (25:57):
Yeah, you know, I think uh like there's the.
The science behind some of thatis, uh, men feel their
connection to their kids.
Uh, generally after the kidsare born, there's a?
Uh, a change in testosterone inmen.
You actually get lesstestosterone and that lower T
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helps you bond more with yourkid.
You're not looking for newmates, you're not out there, you
know, with that kind ofaggression or whatever that you
might have.
And being home and putting on afew pounds and spending time
with your, with your kids,causes you to, you know, bond
with them.
But I don't know, maybe somepeople just don't have it.
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You know some people just uh,keep it going.
I don't know.
It's tough to say, you know I Iwill say when my wife first
said that she was pregnant, my I, I wish this were different,
but my very first reaction was,oh fuck.
You know, soon after I was likeall right, this is great, this
is awesome.
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I think you know I was excited.
But you know the moment of like, oh man, what are we gonna do?
Sean (27:07):
you know, there's definitely a um shock value to
it.
Yeah uh, when my wife told methat she was pregnant, I came
home, I bleeped from the gym andshe handed me a seed.
Josh (27:19):
I'm like what the fuck?
That's a weird way to do ityeah, here's a seed.
Sean (27:23):
This is the size right now , the size of what, what's stuck
in your tooth like yeah, whatdo you got?
Josh (27:28):
yeah?
Sean (27:29):
oh, I'm pregnant.
I'm'm like, oh, okay, that'scool, but I would never like at
that time, even though it was ashock and I was like, oh, am I
ready for this there?
Josh (27:44):
was no like sense of oh my God, I've got to get out now.
Well, I think it's because weboth loved our wives, right, you
know like if you don't reallylove the person you're with you
might have different feelings.
Sean (28:01):
Like, oh man, I'm going to be, you know.
But that's where sometimes Icould give it a little bit of
play, where if you're not withsomebody, you find out they're
pregnant.
There is a shock there.
There's like a what should I do?
What can I do?
I don't know if I'm ready forthat, um.
But then you turn around andyou say, okay, maybe you give a
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little leeway there, but afterthe baby's born, and then you
hear of father's leaving.
After a baby is a baby two,three years old.
Josh (28:30):
Like that is nuts to me like that's crazy, getting the
milk and never come back, right,yeah, I don't know how people
do that.
I mean, I guess I'm just asofty when it comes to my kids,
I mean even other people'sbabies.
I'm like, oh, I love this babyright you know it's hard to,
yeah, it's hard to imagine justwalking away from from your
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blood.
Sean (28:52):
But and I mean it takes, it takes two like that have that
bond with a kid and I meanpeople do it.
I give, give it up to singlemoms or single dads that do it,
because I mean it takes me andmy wife together, everything
yeah correct, right, so yeah, no, I don't know how people do it
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now, um, one thing that I noticeand I see a lot, is when and I
know a couple families that havefour, five and six kids and I
know they do they do a great job.
It.
Josh (29:32):
It's insane.
That's what they wanted.
Sean (29:35):
I know people that have up to seven kids.
They do a great job and thatwas their intent.
We want kids.
Josh (29:42):
They set out to have a big family.
Sean (29:44):
We can provide for them.
We will try to give themeverything they need and we'll
raise them all the same andtreat them all the same.
And then the other side of thefactor is I see people that have
one or two kids who know thingsdidn't work out.
They're getting with somebodyelse, not married, yet popping
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out another one or two.
And the next thing they knowlike they're having four, five,
six, seven kids yeah, with threeor four different dads and or
moms or moms yeah, withdifferent dads or moms, or
getting a relationship taking onother kids.
That and it blows my mind, umto be put in that situation, um,
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like I know, with our, ourdaughter, when we decide we're
only having one kid, could wehave more, be able to afford it
and supply for another kid?
Yes, but we chose just to haveone.
I blows my mind how some peoplewere like okay, I have one kid,
I'm struggling let's do itagain.
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This is tough but yeah, three orfour more down the road.
Yeah, they're having more.
Yeah, I think some people justaren't very smart, I mean, when
it comes to that, I mean,there's no other explanation.
Josh (31:04):
Yeah, I think they just don't think ahead or don't think
it's going to happen, or maybethey're not planning on
providing with your level ofexpectation for providing for
your child, like not in thatextreme of a way.
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I see we take different care ofour son than some people do of
their kids and like what I meanby that is we homeschool.
He was struggling in school, hewas ahead in some areas, he was
being bullied in school and oursolution was okay, we don't
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want him to deal with that,we're going to homeschool him.
I think a lot of other parentsgoing through that same stuff
might have just been like, oh, Ican't possibly do that.
Like you got to stay in schooland you know, right or wrong or
indifferent doesn't matter.
But like you know, obviously wewouldn't be able to homeschool
seven kids.
So like that puts a limiter on,like, if that's our level of
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care, that puts a limiter on howmany kids we could possibly
care for.
Sean (32:15):
You know, or just pick your jobs and just have a whole
class yeah.
Josh (32:19):
Like you know, you can only go so far.
I mean, my cousin, I don't knowhow she does it, but she
homeschools three kids, and youknow, and a fourth, that's a
baby that's not yet learning.
But you know, man, I don't knowhow you go about that, but yeah
, you know.
Sean (32:39):
Then there's people who their level of care is much less
and they, you know, believethat their kids will just figure
shit out you know Right and Imean that's where I just had
this discussion the other daywhere you can do everything you
can for your kid to make themgrow up to act right, to do
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things right, but once they getto that school setting School
Then you have to reteach whywe're teaching you not to do
this but little Johnny's overthere at five saying fuck you
leave me alone.
Josh (33:21):
I was little Johnny in school.
Yeah, you know I think there'sbad examples everywhere for your
kids to find out.
But I think you know, like yourdaughter, she knows right and
wrong.
And I feel like she's the typeof girl who would come home and
tell you like, like yourdaughter, she knows right and
wrong and she, I feel like she'sthe type of girl who would
would come home and tell youlike, oh, she had, like little
johnny said this.
I can't believe it.
Sean (33:41):
Yeah, I mean just this year coming home like something
I wouldn't expect her to hear.
Uh, this early she heard and Imean, was't really bad?
No, but it's something like Iwould have one, or my wife
wouldn't have to explain to herbefore she hears it from another
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kid her age, oh geez.
but then that's where it comesin play of everybody.
Um, parents, their yeah or notat all, or not at all.
There's a lot of grandparentsthat are parents these days,
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that's true, and they try theirbest.
But you go to Walmart, go toTarget, and when you see Grandma
with a little badass runningaround like what's Grandma going
to do?
My grandma's like yelling, andthey're running around like
what's grandma gonna do?
My grandma's like yelling, andthey're running around like
crazy.
she ain't chasing them yeah butI mean that's where that's where
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also comes into play, where,when maybe that instance of
having four or five brothers ornot having that male role model,
or mom, single mom, or dads atwork and grandparents are trying
to raise them to the best theycan in a different generation,
yeah, that's tough that they'renot getting what our kids get on
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a daily basis.
Josh (35:09):
Yeah, no doubt yeah, yeah, I think, um doubt, yeah, yeah,
I think, um, you know there's.
There's obviously a lot ofreasons why all that stuff can
happen, and I think I want to beconscious or conscientious of,
you know, the, the economicreasons or the the social
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reasons or otherwise, why aparent might not be able to be
there for their kids.
The same way, I think we'relucky, we're blessed in some way
, we're lucky we're able to dowhat we're able to do, but yeah,
then there's just some dummiesout there.
Sean (35:53):
Yeah, and that's the thing too.
One thing that always gets tome is seeing if a dirty kid out
in a public setting at Walmartor Target or somewhere, like if
you're out in your groceryshopping like I'm, I'm an old
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navy guy, like I get an old navyand I'm like, oh my god, this
is better deals than walmarttarget.
Like five dollar shirts, threedollar kid shirts, like did you
get that shirt off?
the kids right um this one, yes,yeah, this one's selling uh
toddler section real bigtoddlers right, big and tall
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toddlercom um, but that's thething too, like if you have so
many kids or you feel like, um,I don't feel like, unless you
are absolutely homeless, likeyour kids should never be dirty,
and rather that's clothes orthe kid itself like hygiene.
Josh (37:05):
Well, you know, there's those real granola parents that
got their kids out there playingin the dirt because the dirt's
good for them, you know.
Sean (37:13):
It's just a different parenting style.
Yeah, I think every kid shouldbe able to play in the dirt
because the dirt's good for them.
You know I well.
That's just a differentparenting style.
Yeah, I think every kid shouldbe able to play in the dirt
every kid.
Josh (37:18):
But if, once they leave the, the dirt pile, they gotta
take a shower.
Sean (37:21):
I think, once you leave the dirt you might want to clean
clean under those fingernails,right?
Yeah, all right, fair enoughwatch out dirty kids, but I've
known kids that are actually, Imean, that are homeless, that
live out of cars, so, yeah,that's a whole different
situation.
Yeah, like that there's astruggle there, something went
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wrong.
Um, yeah, could I judge it if Iknew every situation?
Of course, I would like is it?
is it because you don't want towork?
Is it because you made screwedup decisions in your life?
But uh, a kid should never haveto suffer, like if I went broke
tomorrow and I had enough moneyfor food and um, anything like
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everything's gonna come firstfor my kid.
Like I would be the one that'sdirty, I would be the one with
the old, raggedy clothes, yeah,I know.
It falls on me, as the parent,to make sure my kid's clean.
Josh (38:22):
No, that's true.
Yeah, I think it's ourresponsibility to take care of
the kids first, but I don'tthink everybody sees it that way
.
Sean (38:32):
I see a lot of people got fresh clothes and fresh shoes
and their kids got some you know, beat up sneakers and stuff you
know right and that's andthat's the ones I'm talking
about is when I see a parentthat has everything on the nice
cell phone, everything brand new, everything, brand new looking
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good brand new hair done likestyling and the kids like what
everybody I have left is goingto you.
Josh (39:01):
Yeah, yeah yeah, right, we're both, I think, the inverse
uh of that.
Like I'll, you know, we justwent shopping the other day.
I didn't get anything because Iwas like I really don't need
anything.
But you know, I didn't, Ididn't have any needs, but, you
know, made sure my son and mydaughter and my wife all got new
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shit, you know, right?
Um, yeah, I'm always thinkingabout that first rather than
what I'm wearing.
Sean (39:29):
But yeah, man, and that and that's a struggle too.
Some people just don't know howto cope with.
Josh (39:37):
Not being the most important thing in their own
lives?
Yes, I think that's true.
Sean (39:42):
I think that's a maturity thing.
I think when it comes to havinga kid, some people can't get
away from the selfish ways oftheir own.
Yeah.
Josh (39:52):
I mean, everybody's favorite word to hear is their
own, their own name, and likewe're all I think, inherently
some degree of selfish.
Sean (40:00):
But yeah, when you have kids you have to you can still
be selfish, you just have toback up on it.
Josh (40:05):
Yeah, like that's in, I don't think some people I always
say that I'm selfish in a waywhere I will, um, I will do
something that I know I need, uh, in order to be better for you
know, everyone else, um, like, Iwould take care of myself first
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.
My dad, my dad wrote me aletter when I was young and I
didn't really get it till later.
But you know, it was basicallydo something nice for yourself
every day, because basically noone else really does.
No one else will you know that'sa good point so you know, treat
yourself and then you'll beable to do what you need to do
for other people.
I'm not always first on my list, like I will say, like probably
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most days I'm like waking upand you know, immediately
jumping into, you know, aparenting role where I've got to
do something for my daughter ormy son, and you know whatever
I've got to do.
But yeah, I try to do somethinggood for me every day.
Sean (41:02):
Yeah, and that gets away from you.
Sometimes also it's likeanything else, Like you have to
do things for yourself.
But sometimes I feel myselfthat I have to make sure my
daughter's happy before I'mhappy.
Josh (41:19):
Oh yeah, you got this dad guilt about going out and doing
something for you.
Yeah yeah, that can be tough.
It was harder when they wereyounger and they would cry when
you walk out the door.
Right Now, my son's like onYouTube watching people play
Minecraft or something hedoesn't even know I left.
Sean (41:38):
Oh yeah, my daughter loves the ones if I put on toys, just
watching kids play with toys.
Josh (41:47):
Man, this generation is so weird.
Yeah, like even watching peopleplay games, like I mean, I have
friends who you know go onTwitch and watch people play
games and stuff, but I don'tknow about you, but when I was a
kid, if I went to your houseand we were going to play video
games and it was single player,I could give a fuck less about
how you were doing Exactly.
I was just waiting for my turn.
(42:07):
Yep, I was hoping you weregoing to fall off the ledge so
that I could play.
I didn't want to watch anybodyelse play video games.
Now you know, I think the nextgeneration like all into Twitch.
Watching other people playgames huge thing.
And now it's watching otherpeople play with toys.
This is pretty soon it's goingto be a real meadow.
It'll be watching people,watching people play games.
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We're going to get further andfurther away.
There's going to be one personwho plays video games from out
and then everybody watches.
Sean (42:42):
Everybody just watches.
Yeah, like it's going to be anhbo special, yeah, weird.
But yeah, I mean it's a greatum.
It's a great selling point,though, because these kids get
on there and stuff you've neverseen before and they're watching
kids unbox it.
They're watching kids get itthere and stuff you've never
seen before and they're watchingkids unbox it.
They're watching kids get itout.
They're playing into theexcitement of having that and
what it does.
It's not like you used to do.
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Toys are us.
You walk around and you seesomething you've never seen
before.
Now you're seeing everything onYouTube, and that's the way I
mean those companies have to beloving it.
Josh (43:17):
You're not going to stores .
I mean, it used to be the tallgiraffe that called you in to
get a toy.
Sean (43:22):
Right Now it's little, jill and Jan are playing with it
saying buy it, buy it tell yourdad buy it.
Here's the affiliate link.
Josh (43:33):
Yeah, man, I think you're right.
Here's the affiliate link.
Yeah, yeah, man, I think you'reright.
There's uh, I mean there issome cool opportunities that
that stuff brings, like somebodycould buy a toy that you could
never afford and you can watchthem like experience the opening
or whatever the unboxing.
I guess there is some coolfactor in that.
You know, like, I'm not goingto buy my son a $1,000 toy, but
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some asshole kid on YouTube isgoing to buy that $1,000 toy.
Sean (43:57):
They got it for free.
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Josh (43:59):
So it's going to make our kids want it, and he's got all
the views to pay for it, right,but you know, so I guess there's
that.
But yeah, I think consumerismin this, you know, post youtube
era is going to be, is justweird, um, different than when
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we were kids, like I don't know.
I guess the most expensivething that I used to ask for
when I was a kid was, uh, videogames or cds or uh, maybe like
pokemon cards, and that was likeyou know, I'd be asking my
parents for like 30 bucks like avideo game back.
That was like you know, I'd beasking my parents for like 30
bucks.
Like a video game back then waslike 30, 40 dollars, right,
pokemon cards, you know, maybeif you got a whole box of them
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would have been like 30 bucks.
Sean (44:42):
Yeah, like the biggest thing was a console.
Josh (44:45):
Sure, and that was like once every seven fucking years,
like it wasn't every coupleyears.
Sean (44:51):
But then there was a place called Blockbuster where you
didn't have to buy all yourgames.
Josh (44:56):
Yeah, right, right, you could rent out games.
Man, where did that go?
Is there any place that letsyou rent games?
Sean (45:02):
No, but I recently went up into my old room and my parents
looking for something and Icame across a VHS tape that had
Blockbuster on it.
Oh shit, across a VHS tape thathad Blockbuster on it.
Oh shit, If you're watchingthis Blockbuster If they ever
open again.
Josh (45:17):
I don't want to see what that account is going to be that
late fee.
I was recently.
I saw Pete Davidson'scollecting unopened VHS tapes.
Sean (45:27):
Oh, I saw that too.
Josh (45:32):
I guess they're worth like $20,000, $30,000 in some
occasions.
You got any unopened ones there, Josh?
No, I mean that's.
It's fun to podcast the onething that.
Sean (45:39):
Maybe we'll get mats for our chairs.
Finally, I never thought aboutbuying the Not Deal here.
Buy a movie and not watch it.
Well, you know, you're acollector, you're a collector, I
am a collector.
Josh (45:52):
But yeah, Should we talk about your collections or save
that for another time?
Sean (45:57):
I think we saved that one, saved that one.
Yeah, that's an episode initself.
Josh (46:00):
It's a big topic collections it is.
Sean (46:06):
But yeah, going back to, I wouldn't change anything with
being a husband and being afather.
I wouldn't change anything withbeing a husband and being a
father.
I think it is a second job.
There's times it is a secondjob, yeah, no doubt.
I mean.
Work can be stressful, so canhome life and choosing to do the
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right things and making theright choices.
Josh (46:31):
Yeah, no doubt.
Sean (46:38):
But not in a bad way, like I'd rather be stressed about
making choices at home than bestressed about making choices at
work oh really, yeah, I thinkI'm the opposite bro, you'd
rather be yeah work choices andstress at work feels like
nothing to me compared to likehome stresses and home.
Josh (46:53):
home decisions right like yeah work, like at work feels
like nothing to me compared tohome stresses and home decisions
Right At work.
I don't feel very, very rarelydo I feel stressed about
something at work.
Sean (47:07):
And it's not because my job is not stressful Right.
It's just because it doesn'tmatter.
Josh (47:12):
It doesn't have that impact on me that home issues
can have.
I guess maybe partially is Idon't worry about losing my job.
That's true.
If I don't do the work that Ihave to do, my repercussions are
pretty low.
Sean (47:32):
I mean, worst case scenario, my client fires me,
but you know next, yeah, and Ithink that's where work and
being a parent at the same time,um like, I always see, uh, what
others think of me, so like mywork ethic at work and then how
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my kid acts out, I'm responsiblefor all of that.
Josh (47:57):
Do you care about how other people see you?
Sean (47:59):
No.
Josh (48:01):
Really.
No, you kind of just said youdid my work ethic part.
Okay, you want them to knowthat you're not there?
Sean (48:08):
Yeah, if you're going to give me a job.
I'm going to do it 100%.
That's how I feel like a fatheris.
If you have a kid, you shouldgive it 100%.
Josh (48:17):
Okay, fair, yeah.
Yeah, I think this is one ofthe things we are similar on.
Is that like we don't reallygive a fuck what people think
about our own appearance, right?
Or like how people really thinkabout us in general?
Sean (48:35):
Like I might care what you think about me at work in my
work ethic and I'm always a niceguy and laid-back guy but once
I leave work, if you see me outlike I don't care what you think
about me in that situation yeah, like I am what I am at work
professional yeah, yeah, I'mpretty much the same person at
work.
Josh (48:54):
Uh, my professionalism maybe lacks a little bit again,
probably because nobody's gonnafire me for the same fuck.
But um, but yeah, I just don't.
I just don't give a shit whatyou think you know, I mean like
public image.
Like I'll, I'll go outsidesometimes and grab the mail and
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you know be wearing, be wearingmy pajamas or a fucking wife
beater or something, and likeyou know my wife's, like you're
going to go outside, I'm likeyeah, don't give a fuck.
My neighbor has a problem withwhat I'm getting the mail in,
and that's his problem.
Sean (49:28):
There's nothing on the H-I-S that says I have to dress
up to get my mail yeah, fuckthat, yeah Well.
Says I have to dress up to getmy mail yeah, fuck that, yeah,
well that.
Here's another thing, then,when it comes to parenting, like
how do you feel, what route doyou take?
Correcting your kid out inpublic?
Josh (49:43):
smack them.
I'm just kidding.
Um, okay, correcting bad hate.
Yeah, it's tough.
So we're both kind of gentleparents in the scheme of things,
Like you know.
I think that's something we'reboth alike in as well.
(50:03):
Like you know, neither of usare going to actually beat our
kids or anything like that.
Or, you know, do something.
You speak for yourself.
Sean (50:10):
Okay, all right, all right .
Oh, okay, all right, all right.
Josh (50:13):
But uh, you know, I, I'm, I I try to redirect and like um,
uh, model, good behavior andthings like that.
But If my son's acting up orsomething and we can't fix it,
we just generally leave whateverwe're doing.
Sean (50:32):
Right.
Josh (50:32):
And we're just getting the fuck out of there.
And with my daughter, if she'shaving a bad time and just
screaming, she's one and a halfLike what am I going to do?
Stop it.
Sean (50:42):
Right, exactly Nothing I can do there.
Yeah, I think, with your sonand my daughter at that age,
like just leaving the situation.
Josh (50:50):
Sometimes we have to leave early.
It happens less these days,when he was younger.
Now the thing is sometimes he,if he, like you know, gets,
doesn't get his way when he'sout playing with like other kids
, at the playground or at thepark or something, something
goes wrong or he trips and falls.
Sometimes he's like real scream, crying like real loud, and
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then I'm like, oh man, you know,disturbing the peace, we gotta,
we gotta pick it up, we gotta,we gotta, I gotta get him to
stop.
Crying is my thing and I thinkpartially that's because I don't
know about you, but my dad wasalways like quit your fucking
crying.
Yeah, we weren't allowed to cry.
I think that was just like 90skids.
We weren't allowed to cry.
Sean (51:32):
Well, that's the thing I see people in stores sometimes
just screaming and causing ascene and that's not doing
anything better.
I always felt like getting upclose in the face, expressing in
a different voice works alittle better than embarrassing,
I suppose, because by youscreaming oh for sure the kid
into panic.
Josh (51:53):
Yeah, no, that's, it makes them even worse.
It's terrible to scream yourkids, but it's like do you even
love this kid, do you?
You know, like, what are youdoing?
Sometimes I really wonder.
Like I look at parents inpublic, I'm like do you even
like your kid?
Sean (52:04):
or what are you doing at home?
If you're like screaming thisis okay, yeah, wal.
If this is okay, yeah, walmart.
Yeah, what are you doing?
Josh (52:10):
Yeah, no, you know, I get it, being frustrated at your
wit's end, like it can happen,especially, let's say, you got a
lot of kids or something, oryou had a real bad day, or you
know you're a single parent.
I'm sure that shit's hard, butlike, yeah, I'm with you.
I don't really yell at him,public or not, and I'm not
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demanding of him to change hisbehavior.
We more or less try to talkabout it.
Sean (52:37):
So recently we went to Target and we went for school
clothes shopping, if I can talk,and there was a woman there and
she had a cart and there waslike a baby sitting up at the
top part.
There was two kids in the cartand then three boys following
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them and when I look at thatsituation I'm like there's no
way she's happy with us, becausethere's no fucking way.
Josh (53:10):
You think she just regrets everything.
Two of the boys.
I mean, you don't have six kidswithout making some decision
about having kids, Like she waspart of that equation.
Sean (53:22):
She was part of that equation and there was a
decision made on each one andafter it looked like two in her
life.
It was a bad decision for therest.
But two of the boys are kickingeach other in the aisle.
Next thing I turn around she'syelling at them.
They're rolling, wrestlingaround on the floor.
The one that's standing is likekicking at the two.
(53:44):
The kids in the car are pullingstuff off the shelves.
Josh (53:50):
ah, and it's just disaster it's total chaos, yeah like
okay, what do you do in thatscenario?
Sean (53:56):
I'm not going to be in this.
Josh (53:58):
Fucking kids like get, like that's where the buck stops
, all right let's say, you're,you're, you're your uncle, right
, you're your uncle and, uh, youknow you've and you're watching
all your nieces and nephews orsomething.
You've got six kids you've gotto watch and they're all just
fucking disaster, like that.
(54:19):
What are you doing?
Sean (54:20):
I mean, in a setting, in a house, I'm going to be like hey
, you two go here, you two gohere.
You go to here Separate Sitdown, don't move until I come.
Hey, you two go here.
You two go here.
You go to here Separate Sitdown, don't move until I come
and talk to you two.
I mean, maybe that works.
I don't know, I've never beenin that situation, but that
would be my plan.
Josh (54:36):
It sounds pretty good.
Yeah, it sounds good.
Sean (54:38):
And have a discussion with each of them, or separate them
and say here's your plan partner, here's your plan partner,
right, but you have differentdesignated areas.
Okay, and if you can be goodLike stations and can be good,
yes and if you can be good forthose 10 minutes, I'll switch
the partners up.
Josh (54:54):
Oh, and that way all of y'all can play different.
Sean (54:56):
Oh wow, Now that situation's a little different
than this woman being in Targetwith six kids.
She can't really do playpartners there, no, and like are
you telling me these kids don'tdo this at home, where you feel
safe enough to go by yourselfwith six kids?
And they're right, even if I?
Josh (55:12):
had six kids.
I mean I would, man, it's hardto say right, like maybe she
just has no other option, butlike I would try to do
everything I could to not goshopping take all six at once,
well for sure, unless there'ssix more at home, right, um, but
damn, yeah I would.
I would do everything I couldnot to go shopping with six.
I mean, we just went to themall yesterday and it just went
(55:34):
to with our two and it just feltlike just too much.
Because you know when you're Ifeel like when I'm at the mall
I'm in high alert like I'm likelooking at everybody making sure
there's nobody weird coming up,making sure that no one's
fucking stealing my wife's purseoff her shoulder or something,
or your kids were like threefeet away, my son is just not
like aimlessly walking in adifferent direction, like I feel
(55:56):
.
Like you know, I'm constantly onhigh alert in the mall and I
could not imagine having morethan the two.
Sean (56:01):
Honestly, any more responsibility, and I probably
would have cracked because I waslike anxiety there well, and
that's where it plays a partwhen there's two in a home and
you and your wife and your kidsgo out shopping.
If your daughter who's youngeris not expected to be perfect
(56:23):
for two hours straight whileshopping, if she has a blow-up
or she needs to be walked out,you or your wife can take her
out and still 1v1 with withyourself we can kind of 1v1 it
yeah but if you go there andyou're, you're a dad by yourself
or you're a mom by yourself,you have the same situation and
that kid starts to cry.
You got no option.
(56:44):
You have no options.
Yeah, drop everything or justlet the kid cry.
Then usually, when the kidstarts crying and you're giving
all the attention to the baby,then the older kids like hey,
I'm still here, I want my shit.
Josh (56:56):
Yeah, that's why we came here.
Sean (56:58):
Yeah, yeah, we're going to game, stop mom but you spoke
earlier about like playgroundsand I don't know your perception
on that.
But like if my kid goes to, ifmy daughter goes to a playground
and say there's 10 kids outthere, like I can't just sit
there 50 feet away and be likego play, like I have to be eyes
(57:23):
on the whole time.
Yeah, I want to make sure noother kids are mistreating her
and I want to make sure she'snot mistreating other kids or
getting stolen, or gettingstolen.
Josh (57:32):
There's a couple kids that got— Maybe I should have put
that first.
There's a couple kids that gotstolen out of Morgan Grove Park.
Sean (57:39):
Oh really, yeah, I mean, it doesn't take—I mean it only
takes that second to not—Seconds bro.
Josh (57:46):
Yeah, I mean I would.
Yeah, I'm the same way.
I mean we used to be calledhelicopter parents by, like my
older siblings or you knowrandom people, friends.
We had some friends that were alot more, you know, laid back
parenting styles and you knowthey would joke that we were
like always up close, like whenthey were on the playground.
Sean (58:07):
Oh, don't fall, you know.
Josh (58:09):
So I mean mean, definitely with our first, with our son,
it was we were more nervousabout that stuff.
Sean (58:15):
And you know, even still, when we go to the park or
something, yeah, I'm, I can't beon my phone or like you know,
but there's an age range I feellike elementary like my niece is
10 once my daughter gets 10, 9,10, like I'm not gonna be that
much on her, like I'll lay backsome, but I feel like right now
I can be there in the moment, ifI need to be, to teach her a
(58:37):
lesson.
Like if two kids get to thesteps at the same time and
they're arguing and she getsupset.
Like it's okay, like you taketurns, both of you are going to
the same place, right, it's allgoing to be good.
Yeah, like learn that lesson atthe same time.
Like I still want her to havefun.
But also I'm teaching lessonswhen I'm out there yeah, that's
true, I'm with you on that.
(58:58):
Not when other kids come in andtheir parents are like, hey,
I'm going use cigarettes, playsome solitaire on my phone and
if I turn around and you'rebeating the shit out of another
kid.
Go, Johnny.
I mean there's parents likethat.
Josh (59:16):
There is yeah.
Sean (59:17):
Go learn on your own, but I like lessons being taught in
the moment.
Josh (59:23):
Yeah, no, same way.
Definitely, I think we're thesame in that way.
Definitely, I think we're thesame in that way.
So I think we're going to planon doing an episode every week,
right?
Sean (59:38):
Yeah, look at every week.
This episode is just more aboutus.
We'll start to get into othertopics and specific things to
talk about, to get into andspecific things to talk about to
get into.
But this is a little bit ofwhat we are and who we are and
the lives that we live right now.
So just to get to know us.
Josh (59:59):
Yeah, and I think we're going to put out another episode
this time next week and it'llbe on everywhere where you can
watch or listen to podcasts andlet's see, Is there anything
else?
The Unlike Podcast.
Sean (01:00:20):
Oh yeah, we didn't have to go to Walmart today.
Good morning.
Josh (00:01):
Oh yeah.
Sean (00:02):
Early morning news.
We should be meteorologists.
Josh (00:08):
Oh yeah, that'll be.
Sean (00:11):
Today's weather.
Josh (00:14):
In Martinsburg, west Virginia, we might see a tornado
.
I'm Sean, I'm Josh and this isthe Unalike Podcast and we're
going to talk about ways thatwere the same but different.
Two unlikely friends, you mightsay.
How would you describe the show?
Sean (00:36):
Yeah, a lot of perceptions the same and I think we're
going to find out.
We're going to have somedifferent perceptions on things.
For sure, yeah, I mean meanthat's very likely, uh, so oh,
so we met through our wives,that's true, and I don't even
know how many years ago.
Josh (00:57):
And then we just kept meeting wedding after wedding,
weddings my wedding you werethere, and then, uh, and then I
moved here, moving west virginia, in 2021, I think, and uh,
happily ever after, right josh,exactly.
Uh, let's see, we're both,we're both family men, both have
(01:23):
uh children.
Sean (01:25):
I got two kids I have one kid, one daughter, right um, hmm
, okay, similarities,similarities end right there,
right, that's it.
Right.
One thing is a big similarityboth being married, both having
(01:50):
kids, both kind of living, thesame type of husband-father
lives.
Josh (01:57):
Yeah, I would imagine there's some similarities there,
for sure, although I mean, I'mjust going to say this right off
the bat you have a verydifferent home life, my friend.
Uh, how many chores do you doat home?
Sean (02:10):
um, you know, I mean specifically when it comes to
chores, um, we do have goats.
Okay, I water, I water thegoats water the goats, is that
how?
You say it mow the lawn yeahand um, you know, take a bullet
(02:32):
for the family okay, yeah, ofcourse, if an invader comes.
Josh (02:34):
Yes, that's a good, that's a forever chore.
Sean (02:37):
Yeah, yeah so when it comes to you know the dishes you
know how the washing machineworks I do not.
Um, when I do the dishes tosurprise my wife, I hand wash
them.
That's how I've always done it.
I enjoy hand washing.
And uh, the problem is when shecomes home and I surprise her
(02:59):
with washing the dishes, shedoesn't find it much of a
surprise because she's got toredo them all.
Right, she's like wow, you didsomething.
I did every single day.
Josh (03:11):
Yes, you're like, look at me.
Sean (03:14):
But I mean, does it count that dish washing if you just
put them in the dishwasher?
Josh (03:20):
I think so.
You know, it's a good 10minutes of work.
That's true it's you know it'suh, you have these chairs, bro,
I'm gonna get some rolling matsover here.
Um, let me see how far I canlean back.
Can I chill this far?
Yeah, so I mean, yeah, that'sthat's, uh, that's a little
(03:45):
different on my end.
You know, I'm uh, I'm uh.
We're kind of split down themiddle when it comes to house
chores.
Uh, a new, a new age household,if you will, you know, so I'm
doing, uh, doing the dishes orwashing clothes.
Um, I mean, take care of thepool.
Sean (04:03):
I would say, that's how most houses are run.
Josh (04:07):
You've got something special going on.
Man don't let your wife watchthis and realize that that's not
normal it's the goats.
They take up all my choresthere's no possible time for
anything else exactly.
Sean (04:21):
That's 10 minutes out of the day.
Water in the hay yeah.
Josh (04:27):
so there we go, but I think in terms of raising our
kids, we're probably similar inthat regard.
I don't know my family growingup.
My dad wasn't super active inthe upbringing of us kids.
Sean (04:43):
He was around.
Josh (04:43):
He wasn't absent like the the upbringing of us kids.
Um, you know he was around.
He wasn't like absent, butwasn't like every day hanging
out with us, taking us placeswhere I think both of us enjoy
doing that.
We like to go out and right youknow, take our, take our family
places experiences do, do stuffright, and I mean growing up.
Sean (04:59):
It was a little different for me.
Um, my dad worked a lot everyday, but we were always doing
something, uh, whether it wasgoing to nascar races, uh, one
time we were into wwe wrestling.
We were going to wrestlinghowever you say wrestling you
(05:21):
know wrestling um, but like wekind of all.
Who's your favorite wrestler,by the way?
Oh, dwayne Johnson.
Josh (05:28):
Oh, okay, okay.
I'm more of a Stone Cold SteveAustin fan.
You know what I'm saying.
I mean Like an alcoholic figureas a child who's just really.
Sean (05:38):
It just hit home you know, in his word usage I mean that
was perfect for an idol to lookup to.
Yeah, you know, exactly yeah.
Josh (05:46):
I mean, I was watching Sopranos when I was like seven
and swearing pretty early onSwearing was just swear words
were adjectives in my house.
Sean (05:55):
Yeah, mine started about middle school.
It went from like zero to 100with the swearing real fast.
Yeah, the swing real fast.
Josh (06:03):
Yeah, did you get?
Did you ever have limitationsat home about um like?
Sean (06:14):
uh, video games or anything like that that you
could play, or Um, not really.
Josh (06:18):
I mean it was pretty or like shows you could watch or
whatever.
Sean (06:20):
Yeah, show wise.
Um.
I mean, everything startedabout middle school, though.
Once I got introduced to hiphop and watching those videos
sneaking to watch those videos Istarted to learn a lot more
that was out there that I didn'tknow the darn hip hop, terrible
(06:44):
influence, the, the those uhparental advisory stickers
really got you yeah, there wasno parental advisory on the
videos with what?
Some of the things I've seen inearly age yeah, my, my parents
didn't really mind.
Josh (07:02):
I guess they didn't filter what I was watching or the
music I was listening to oranything, or video games I was
playing.
Maybe they should have.
I was playing Grand Theft Autoprobably way too young, but I
did play some Grand Theft Autoyeah stuff I would never do with
my kids.
Like you know, my son is 7 andthere is no chance I'd let him
play Grand Theft Auto right?
Sean (07:23):
now, right, I think movie-wise I'm a little more
lenient with my daughterWatching.
Just recently, or a couple daysago, we watched Scarface.
No, we haven't got there.
The Scarface poster is still atmy parents' house above my bed,
right next to pamela anderson.
(07:50):
Uh, yes, on the bathroom doorthere was a um sports
illustrated uh poster, classicum, but we just watched in game
uh avengers in game.
Josh (07:59):
Okay, well, you know the.
I feel like the superhero stuffis a little bit softer.
It's a good intro into violence.
Sean (08:06):
It is the next morning she woke up.
I'm like, okay, are we ready tostart from the beginning and
watch Captain America?
No, no, I need a couple daysbreak.
There was a lot of dust in themoment we just watched, so I
wasn't expecting that the firstthing in the morning.
Yeah, that's funny.
So, speaking of that, when itcomes to being the father, what?
(08:30):
What is your favorite thinglike?
What is your one of your topfavorite things about being a
dad?
Josh (08:33):
top favorite things about being a dad.
You know it's different, Ithink, with different ages.
Like I forgot about thisbecause my son is seven now but
you know, when he was little,just him hitting these
milestones so rapidly.
So now I have a daughter who'syounger my daughter's a year and
a half.
Seeing her hit these milestonesand be able to say stuff like I
(08:56):
love you, dada, that's awesome.
But with my son being a littlebit older, his milestones are
still just as exciting andthey're different, but they're
just, you know, less frequent.
Right, they go through slowertransitions as they get older,
but I guess it's just rewardingwatching my family grow and be
together and, you know, makememories and stuff like that.
(09:18):
Like in general just the fact ofbeing a dad, I think, is great.
Sean (09:23):
Right, and I agree with all aspects of that.
One thing I battle is betweensometimes like you go to bed at
night and you hear dad, mom, andI'm like, oh my gosh, I got to
wake up.
But then the next day I'm likeit's still nice to be needed.
(09:44):
Ah, sure, yeah, for sure Likethat's the part Like, oh my gosh
, when she wakes up in themiddle of the night, or she's
scared or she can't fall asleep,like you're still there and
needed to comfort.
Josh (09:57):
The protector figure, right, or even just like, yeah,
being their source of comfortand reassurance and stuff like
that.
Yeah, I get you that's, that'scool and that's not gonna last
long, right?
Like I mean, shoot, I thinkboth of our older kids are gonna
probably stop needing us somuch, you know, right?
(10:21):
I mean now it's only, it's onlyto be less and less and it'll
be more and more about money,probably as they get older.
It's like one of my dad'sfavorite books to read to me.
I think I didn't bring a copy,but was the Giving Tree.
You ever read the Giving Tree?
I have heard of the Giving TreeKid's book, but I think it's
(10:42):
really for the parents that arereading it, and it's about the
son or child that spends timewith the tree, which is like the
parent figure, and wants fromit, like eventually wants the
wood for, I think, making ahouse and there's less and less
(11:05):
of the tree left as the bookprogresses and then there's
nothing but a stump at the end.
So one day, josh, you and I areboth going to be stumps.
And that's the thing too, like Ifeel like you're always going
to be needed, like I mean,there's times Well, yeah, the
old boy at the end of that booksits on the stump for a nice
place to rest Right, and old boyat the end of that book sits on
(11:26):
the stump for a nice place torest right it's just a different
kind of need when they'reyounger.
Sean (11:28):
Yeah, that's the thing, like whole different kind of
need.
Yeah, no doubt so.
When you get to your mostfavorite thing, what would be
something?
So, for instance, something Ifind annoying but also like it's
still enjoyable.
Josh (11:49):
An enjoyable annoyance.
Yeah, all right, hit me.
Sean (11:51):
So my thing is with having a daughter yeah, she has all
the unicorns, she has all theBarbies, she has all the baby
dolls oh, yeah, of course.
So when she asks me to play, Ialways have to be a girl.
Yeah, you're a princess dad, soyeah, of course.
So when she asked me to play, Ialways have to be a girl.
Josh (12:07):
Yeah, you're Princess.
Sean (12:08):
Dad, so yeah.
Josh (12:09):
Princess Dad.
Sean (12:11):
So there could be multiple prince, prince, kings, whatever
they are, as she calls them.
And we also have plenty of kindolls, but for some reason I
still always have to be the girl.
So I have plenty of Ken dolls,but for some reason I still
always have to be the girl.
So 45 minutes of playing it'salways.
Dad, you've got to use yourgirl voice.
It's not a boy, it's a girl,she enforces it.
Josh (12:34):
So I'm like there's a Ken right here.
Sean (12:37):
There's Prince Charming right here.
Josh (12:38):
She's like no, I switched characters.
She's like uh-uh.
Sean (12:45):
So I mean, most of the time when we play, I'm a girl,
yes, but I also find it funny aswhen I do finally get to be a
male character a Ken, a boy,unicorn I still change my voice.
Josh (12:56):
I don't use my own voice.
Do you ever go to work and useit?
Sean (13:01):
There's probably times where it comes out, but yeah,
like I just can't use my normalvoice for ken it's hey, I'm ken.
Josh (13:09):
yeah yeah, you know, my son doesn't play much pretend.
I think you know that he's justinto different stuff, but
already I could see mydaughter's going down that that
rabbit hole.
You know, we just got anamerican doll the other day, oh
yeah.
Sean (13:26):
Economy-wise, they're very good prices.
Josh (13:29):
Oh yeah.
Yeah, I was like dude, we arenot buying a $125 doll, and sure
enough we did.
That is exactly what happened.
I think we're probably going tobe.
I'm going to be doing girl dadvoices in a while, in a couple
more years.
Right now I can use my normalvoice.
That's lucky for you, yeahthat's why you can.
Sean (13:52):
But the thing with American Girl Dolls you always
have the appointments you canset up for for haircuts, for
haircuts, tea parties.
Oh boy, at least somebody elsecan use the girl's voice at that
time.
Josh (14:06):
Oh my gosh, this stuff is crazy.
I'm going to borrow all theknockoff stuff from Target.
I've decided Nobody knows.
Nobody knows the difference.
No, if they do, they're notwelcome in my house.
Speaking of which, I wanted toask you, when you have people
who come visit your house youknow, come visit not just for
like hanging out for the day,but like someone's going to stay
(14:27):
with you what are some thingsthat they do, they could do?
That might might be like get onyour nerves, like things that
are, you know, I don't useannoying because it's a strong
word.
I don't want to hurt anybody'sfeelings who've been to your
house, but, uh, you know,someone does something you're
like, oh, maybe he breaks upyour routine, right, or like
(14:48):
messes up your mojo.
What do you think?
Sean (14:51):
um, I think one thing that leads up to that is stopping
over unannounced oh right no,that's just not acceptable no um
you know, sometimes nobody'sever in your neighborhood.
Josh (15:05):
anyway, what are they doing?
Sean (15:07):
You know, sometimes I just uh, have my day already planned
.
I was laying on the couch andwatching something and you hear
a knock at the door.
I mean that's fine, um comingto their house.
I don't know, I'm pretty goodwith like whatever.
Um do you ever have guests?
Um, very, stay the night?
Does stay the night?
No, I'm pretty good with likewhatever.
Do you ever have guests thisday of the night, this day of
the night?
(15:27):
No, never have guests this dayof the night, never.
Josh (15:30):
No, oh, okay, well, there you go.
Well, you're not going to haveany annoyances about that, then,
will you?
Sean (15:34):
No, there's literally a hotel up the road.
Josh (15:39):
He circumvented that completely, like oh yeah, I got
you a room at the helen right.
No, I mean, if somebody cameover and they had a couple
drinks or needed somewhere, youlet them crash on the couch.
Sean (15:53):
Yeah, the couch is fantastic as long as you're gone
before they wake up.
Before you wake up, right,right, I mean food wise, good
luck.
I mean, usually we buy foodjust enough to get us through
the week, but I'm sure there'ssomething in there they could
snack on.
Yeah, yeah, no drinks.
I've learned you don't buydrinks.
No, not really Water, tap water.
Were you a juice?
Josh (16:12):
kid growing up, did you have juice and sodas?
Sean (16:15):
Yeah, that's a good question.
I don't even remember.
Josh (16:19):
I feel like there was families who were just water
families, which is what we'vebecome pretty much, and then
there's the kids who got all thesugary juices and the barrel
drums.
Sean (16:28):
I mean, the only thing I can remember is maybe like Sunny
D.
Josh (16:29):
Oh, you had Sunny D.
Yeah, I love Sunny D.
Did you get the little onesthat you could take with you, or
did you have the big ones?
Sean (16:34):
The little ones.
Oh yeah, we recently got mydaughter Sunny D.
Oh yeah, and once see, man, youcan't go wrong.
Josh (16:42):
yeah, so when people come visit my house, I think, uh, uh,
there's a few things that, um,someone might do that you know
can get get on my nerves alittle bit.
Uh like, for example, um, youknow someone will will try to be
helpful when they don't need tobe like.
(17:03):
If you're my guest, I'm gonnatake care of you, know your mess
and your things and your.
When they don't need to be Like, if you're my guest, I'm going
to take care of you, know yourmess and your things and your
dishes.
I don't care, it's fine, it'snot me.
But when they try to be helpfuland they do it a way that's
different than I would do itlike they put away my dishes but
like in the wrong place, andthen you're like where the fuck
is the measuring cup?
Sean (17:25):
It's cup and it's like in a weird place, you know.
Or if they want to throw thetrash away and they got to go
through, you see them looking ohyou know like where's your
trash can.
Well, you wouldn't even have toknow where my trash can was.
Josh (17:30):
I'll take, I got it yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah.
No, that's a good one.
Yeah, it makes you feel likethey really want you to take out
the trash.
At least that's how I look atit.
When someone's trying to takeout my trash, they really want
me to take out the trash,because what they're saying is
you've neglected your trash canand it is over full right.
And now now they're trying tolike take it in their hands.
(17:51):
It's totally not necessary.
Sean (17:52):
I mean, it's not a bad idea, I'll handle the trash.
If they go throw somethingwhere your trash is full, hey,
can you get that for me?
Josh (17:58):
I'll put it outside and I'll put a new bag.
Yeah, put them to to work.
Yeah, all right, yeah yeah.
You know what I think it's whenit's their idea that I have a
problem, right?
If it was my idea, I think I'dbe all right with it.
Sean (18:14):
Yeah, I think that is one of the things that you should
almost it's almost like you'vegot to make things known when
somebody comes to your house.
Josh (18:24):
Ground rules.
Yeah, nobody's going to stay atyour fucking house.
If you've got ground rules,sign the contract.
Sean (18:31):
Like listen when you're here, don't worry about a thing.
Josh (18:34):
Okay, yeah, rule number one.
Sean (18:36):
There are no rules, like, it's easier for me to do
everything in my own house, yeah, and you not have to stress
over what your job is stayinghere yeah, that's true or being
here.
Josh (18:47):
Yeah so to anyone who comes to my house, don't do
anything, don't do my chores.
Sean (18:54):
Right.
And, for instance, anotherthing that's like, say, you
order a pizza, like when I ordera pizza, I'm carrying it to the
kitchen.
I'm already getting a piece out, oh for sure.
And when you're a guestsomewhere, it's like when is the
right time to go get my food?
Josh (19:11):
Or do I wait until somebody comes?
I'm the first guy at everyparty in the line for food, for
food, I don't give a fuck.
See, that's the.
Sean (19:17):
You know because.
Josh (19:18):
I know on the host side you want people to eat the food
you bought.
Right side, you want people toeat the food you bought right.
You don't buy the food so thatsomebody could look at it.
We recently had some, had somecompany and we had, we bought
some things, we had some thingsout and nobody ate anything.
We were like oh, what did we dowrong?
Do we get the wrong food?
Did have allergies we didn'tknow about?
I don't.
You know, as a host you wantpeople to eat the food that you
got that's where I'm the firstone in life.
Sean (19:38):
That's where the ground rules come in.
Josh (19:39):
Ground rules eat my food even if you don't like it.
I don't care if you're going toget diarrhea.
Sean (19:46):
Eat it.
That's where I become theopposite.
I'm always like middle ortowards the end of getting in
the line.
Josh (19:53):
Oh, okay, let everybody else.
Well, you know what, if thefood looks like there's a
shortage, I'm not the guygetting second helpings and
piling it on the plate.
You know what I mean.
Sean (20:10):
Yeah, but piling on the plate, you know what I mean.
Yeah, but if you go first, youcan beat some of the people the
second time.
I haven't been there yet.
I try not to do that.
Try not to do that.
Get there and the host will belike, well, we thought we had
enough.
Josh (20:13):
Yeah, but sean's over in the corner, yeah, on his third
plate well, you know nothingworse than um than being like
super hungry because youmisjudged what the party food
was going to be like.
Right, I try never to let thathappen again.
Now, like every time we havepeople over, I'm like I got
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backup food.
Sean (20:34):
Yeah, you know, just in case, even if it's cheese sticks
, got some backup food, andthat's all the timing in the day
.
I mean one thing you're goingto notice with well, you
prioritize this, and then you'regoing to notice with um, well,
you probably already noticed,and then you're going to have to
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do it again.
Birthday parties like the timeof day, like a birthday party at
two and three o'clock in theday it's confusing.
Josh (20:56):
It really throws me off, like, are we gonna have dinner
or are you gonna just serve?
Sean (20:59):
you know, popcorn and if they do have like decent food,
how much food do I want to eatat two or three?
Josh (21:07):
because right am I gonna eat again at seven, six, yeah,
yeah, that's true.
But kids birthday parties, man,I mean, look up your diet the.
Sean (21:19):
It all depends.
I mean, I could skip the food,but I'm always gonna eat that
cake, oh, no doubt.
Josh (21:23):
Or cupcakes now there's'm always going to eat that cake oh
, no doubt or cupcakes, now,there's no good way to eat a
cupcake, I've learned, but thereis, I think, something that
your wife does with cupcakes.
Sean (21:37):
Oh yeah, she takes it out, she breaks it in half, she
flips the top over and she makeslike a cupcake sandwich.
Josh (21:47):
Cupcake sandwich.
Sean (21:48):
I think that's probably the best thing to do it is, but
I will never do it because itruins the fact of like.
I like the biting into theicing the first thing.
Really Like I mean a cupcakeyou're supposed to get messy,
like I don't give a shit if I'msitting there.
Josh (22:01):
There's no good way to do it.
I mean even when, if cupcakesare as big as they are in
Rochester, where I'm from, youknow they make these delicate
like elaborate cupcakes thathave these, you know, tons of
big toppings they end up beinghuge and you know it's like this
much frosting.
You can't open your mouth thatbig.
Sean (22:28):
All right.
Josh (22:28):
Well, rest of dream cupcakes are not on steroids.
Sean (22:29):
Yeah, that's usually like two to three bites, yeah and
done.
But I will say it doesn'tmatter how you do a cupcake when
you have a beard like ours,you're always gonna get some
kind of icing in your beard,yeah I want cupcakes that are
half size, even just half thecake.
I'm a one-bite type person.
I like if you show up andthere's just a bunch of little
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cupcakes.
Josh (22:52):
The mini cupcakes.
Sean (22:53):
Yeah, I can walk around and just throw one in my mouth
every so often.
Nobody will see you.
I think you just have thewrappers everywhere, yeah.
Yeah, I think you just have thewrappers everywhere, yeah.
Josh (23:05):
Yeah, speaking of which, my son started trying to hide
his snacks that he's notsupposed to have.
He hides the wrappers in placesother than the trash can for
some reason, as if that'll beharder for us to detect.
So he's got like a little.
Sean (23:31):
It's actually like a car trash can, but he put it in his
playroom and he started fillingit with like snack wrappers.
Recently found his trash stash,so like if you ever want to
have a snack and nobody to know,just blame it on him.
Josh (23:40):
Yeah put it in his trash stash.
That's smart, next levelBlaming your kids for eating
things that you're not supposedto eat.
Oh, it's so easy Top, top notch, right there, yeah.
Sean (23:52):
My daughter's new thing is the kitchen is right by the
living room and I can't see inthe kitchen.
Josh (24:06):
But you hear the cabinets and you walk out there and she
runs to the other living roomand like she's circling.
Sean (24:08):
I wasn't doing anything.
Yeah, no, not me anything well,why are the cabinets?
I wasn't doing anything like.
I really don't care if you'rehaving a snack, like it's not a
huge secret around here snacks.
That's why they would buy them,yeah but that's one thing with
uh again, with having that'ssome of the fun things that you
get to go into it Like it'sfunny because some stuff that
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they think they're going to getin trouble for at that time
maybe I have to act serious.
But in my mind I'm like this ishilarious.
Josh (24:37):
It's not a big deal, I don't really care.
But if you think, it's wrong.
Sean (24:42):
Okay, let's go with it.
Maybe we won't do it again.
Yeah once my wife found out shewas pregnant and, um, not right
at the beginning, but you know,when the stomach starts to grow
and there's all kinds ofhormone things going on, uh,
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like that baby already becomeslike part of your life.
Josh (25:06):
Yeah, for sure.
Sean (25:06):
So you go from being protective of your wife to
automatically being protectiveof two people and you become
have that connection and I don'tsee how some people, um,
automatically just walk awayfrom that connection, like how
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it's I?
I just don't see, like whetherit's an accident or not or it
wasn't planned, like thatconnection that I have,
automatically knowing thatthat's my kid inside her stomach
, like it's a takeover of, okay,that's yours.
Now it's not an animal, youjust can't give it away.
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Yeah, you know, I think uh likethere's the.
Josh (25:57):
Yeah, you know, I think uh like there's the.
The science behind some of thatis, uh, men feel their
connection to their kids.
Uh, generally after the kidsare born, there's a?
Uh, a change in testosterone inmen.
You actually get lesstestosterone and that lower T
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helps you bond more with yourkid.
You're not looking for newmates, you're not out there, you
know, with that kind ofaggression or whatever that you
might have.
And being home and putting on afew pounds and spending time
with your, with your kids,causes you to, you know, bond
with them.
But I don't know, maybe somepeople just don't have it.
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You know some people just uh,keep it going.
I don't know.
It's tough to say, you know I Iwill say when my wife first
said that she was pregnant, my I, I wish this were different,
but my very first reaction was,oh fuck.
You know, soon after I was likeall right, this is great, this
is awesome.
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I think you know I was excited.
But you know the moment of like, oh man, what are we gonna do?
Sean (27:07):
you know, there's definitely a um shock value to
it.
Yeah uh, when my wife told methat she was pregnant, I came
home, I bleeped from the gym andshe handed me a seed.
Josh (27:19):
I'm like what the fuck?
That's a weird way to do ityeah, here's a seed.
Sean (27:23):
This is the size right now , the size of what, what's stuck
in your tooth like yeah, whatdo you got?
Josh (27:28):
yeah?
Sean (27:29):
oh, I'm pregnant.
I'm'm like, oh, okay, that'scool, but I would never like at
that time, even though it was ashock and I was like, oh, am I
ready for this there?
Josh (27:44):
was no like sense of oh my God, I've got to get out now.
Well, I think it's because weboth loved our wives, right, you
know like if you don't reallylove the person you're with you
might have different feelings.
Sean (28:01):
Like, oh man, I'm going to be, you know.
But that's where sometimes Icould give it a little bit of
play, where if you're not withsomebody, you find out they're
pregnant.
There is a shock there.
There's like a what should I do?
What can I do?
I don't know if I'm ready forthat, um.
But then you turn around andyou say, okay, maybe you give a
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little leeway there, but afterthe baby's born, and then you
hear of father's leaving.
After a baby is a baby two,three years old.
Josh (28:30):
Like that is nuts to me like that's crazy, getting the
milk and never come back, right,yeah, I don't know how people
do that.
I mean, I guess I'm just asofty when it comes to my kids,
I mean even other people'sbabies.
I'm like, oh, I love this babyright you know it's hard to,
yeah, it's hard to imagine justwalking away from from your
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blood.
Sean (28:52):
But and I mean it takes, it takes two like that have that
bond with a kid and I meanpeople do it.
I give, give it up to singlemoms or single dads that do it,
because I mean it takes me andmy wife together, everything
yeah correct, right, so yeah, no, I don't know how people do it
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now, um, one thing that I noticeand I see a lot, is when and I
know a couple families that havefour, five and six kids and I
know they do they do a great job.
It.
Josh (29:32):
It's insane.
That's what they wanted.
Sean (29:35):
I know people that have up to seven kids.
They do a great job and thatwas their intent.
We want kids.
Josh (29:42):
They set out to have a big family.
Sean (29:44):
We can provide for them.
We will try to give themeverything they need and we'll
raise them all the same andtreat them all the same.
And then the other side of thefactor is I see people that have
one or two kids who know thingsdidn't work out.
They're getting with somebodyelse, not married, yet popping
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out another one or two.
And the next thing they knowlike they're having four, five,
six, seven kids yeah, with threeor four different dads and or
moms or moms yeah, withdifferent dads or moms, or
getting a relationship taking onother kids.
That and it blows my mind, umto be put in that situation, um,
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like I know, with our, ourdaughter, when we decide we're
only having one kid, could wehave more, be able to afford it
and supply for another kid?
Yes, but we chose just to haveone.
I blows my mind how some peoplewere like okay, I have one kid,
I'm struggling let's do itagain.
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This is tough but yeah, three orfour more down the road.
Yeah, they're having more.
Yeah, I think some people justaren't very smart, I mean, when
it comes to that, I mean,there's no other explanation.
Josh (31:04):
Yeah, I think they just don't think ahead or don't think
it's going to happen, or maybethey're not planning on
providing with your level ofexpectation for providing for
your child, like not in thatextreme of a way.
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I see we take different care ofour son than some people do of
their kids and like what I meanby that is we homeschool.
He was struggling in school, hewas ahead in some areas, he was
being bullied in school and oursolution was okay, we don't
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want him to deal with that,we're going to homeschool him.
I think a lot of other parentsgoing through that same stuff
might have just been like, oh, Ican't possibly do that.
Like you got to stay in schooland you know, right or wrong or
indifferent doesn't matter.
But like you know, obviously wewouldn't be able to homeschool
seven kids.
So like that puts a limiter on,like, if that's our level of
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care, that puts a limiter on howmany kids we could possibly
care for.
Sean (32:15):
You know, or just pick your jobs and just have a whole
class yeah.
Josh (32:19):
Like you know, you can only go so far.
I mean, my cousin, I don't knowhow she does it, but she
homeschools three kids, and youknow, and a fourth, that's a
baby that's not yet learning.
But you know, man, I don't knowhow you go about that, but yeah
, you know.
Sean (32:39):
Then there's people who their level of care is much less
and they, you know, believethat their kids will just figure
shit out you know Right and Imean that's where I just had
this discussion the other daywhere you can do everything you
can for your kid to make themgrow up to act right, to do
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things right, but once they getto that school setting School
Then you have to reteach whywe're teaching you not to do
this but little Johnny's overthere at five saying fuck you
leave me alone.
Josh (33:21):
I was little Johnny in school.
Yeah, you know I think there'sbad examples everywhere for your
kids to find out.
But I think you know, like yourdaughter, she knows right and
wrong.
And I feel like she's the typeof girl who would come home and
tell you like, like yourdaughter, she knows right and
wrong and she, I feel like she'sthe type of girl who would
would come home and tell youlike, oh, she had, like little
johnny said this.
I can't believe it.
Sean (33:41):
Yeah, I mean just this year coming home like something
I wouldn't expect her to hear.
Uh, this early she heard and Imean, was't really bad?
No, but it's something like Iwould have one, or my wife
wouldn't have to explain to herbefore she hears it from another
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kid her age, oh geez.
but then that's where it comesin play of everybody.
Um, parents, their yeah or notat all, or not at all.
There's a lot of grandparentsthat are parents these days,
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that's true, and they try theirbest.
But you go to Walmart, go toTarget, and when you see Grandma
with a little badass runningaround like what's Grandma going
to do?
My grandma's like yelling, andthey're running around like
what's grandma gonna do?
My grandma's like yelling, andthey're running around like
crazy.
she ain't chasing them yeah butI mean that's where that's where
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also comes into play, where,when maybe that instance of
having four or five brothers ornot having that male role model,
or mom, single mom, or dads atwork and grandparents are trying
to raise them to the best theycan in a different generation,
yeah, that's tough that they'renot getting what our kids get on
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a daily basis.
Josh (35:09):
Yeah, no doubt yeah, yeah, I think, um doubt, yeah, yeah,
I think, um, you know there's.
There's obviously a lot ofreasons why all that stuff can
happen, and I think I want to beconscious or conscientious of,
you know, the, the economicreasons or the the social
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reasons or otherwise, why aparent might not be able to be
there for their kids.
The same way, I think we'relucky, we're blessed in some way
, we're lucky we're able to dowhat we're able to do, but yeah,
then there's just some dummiesout there.
Sean (35:53):
Yeah, and that's the thing too.
One thing that always gets tome is seeing if a dirty kid out
in a public setting at Walmartor Target or somewhere, like if
you're out in your groceryshopping like I'm, I'm an old
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navy guy, like I get an old navyand I'm like, oh my god, this
is better deals than walmarttarget.
Like five dollar shirts, threedollar kid shirts, like did you
get that shirt off?
the kids right um this one, yes,yeah, this one's selling uh
toddler section real bigtoddlers right, big and tall
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toddlercom um, but that's thething too, like if you have so
many kids or you feel like, um,I don't feel like, unless you
are absolutely homeless, likeyour kids should never be dirty,
and rather that's clothes orthe kid itself like hygiene.
Josh (37:05):
Well, you know, there's those real granola parents that
got their kids out there playingin the dirt because the dirt's
good for them, you know.
Sean (37:13):
It's just a different parenting style.
Yeah, I think every kid shouldbe able to play in the dirt
because the dirt's good for them.
You know I well.
That's just a differentparenting style.
Yeah, I think every kid shouldbe able to play in the dirt
every kid.
Josh (37:18):
But if, once they leave the, the dirt pile, they gotta
take a shower.
Sean (37:21):
I think, once you leave the dirt you might want to clean
clean under those fingernails,right?
Yeah, all right, fair enoughwatch out dirty kids, but I've
known kids that are actually, Imean, that are homeless, that
live out of cars, so, yeah,that's a whole different
situation.
Yeah, like that there's astruggle there, something went
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wrong.
Um, yeah, could I judge it if Iknew every situation?
Of course, I would like is it?
is it because you don't want towork?
Is it because you made screwedup decisions in your life?
But uh, a kid should never haveto suffer, like if I went broke
tomorrow and I had enough moneyfor food and um, anything like
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everything's gonna come firstfor my kid.
Like I would be the one that'sdirty, I would be the one with
the old, raggedy clothes, yeah,I know.
It falls on me, as the parent,to make sure my kid's clean.
Josh (38:22):
No, that's true.
Yeah, I think it's ourresponsibility to take care of
the kids first, but I don'tthink everybody sees it that way
.
Sean (38:32):
I see a lot of people got fresh clothes and fresh shoes
and their kids got some you know, beat up sneakers and stuff you
know right and that's andthat's the ones I'm talking
about is when I see a parentthat has everything on the nice
cell phone, everything brand new, everything, brand new looking
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good brand new hair done likestyling and the kids like what
everybody I have left is goingto you.
Josh (39:01):
Yeah, yeah yeah, right, we're both, I think, the inverse
uh of that.
Like I'll, you know, we justwent shopping the other day.
I didn't get anything because Iwas like I really don't need
anything.
But you know, I didn't, Ididn't have any needs, but, you
know, made sure my son and mydaughter and my wife all got new
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shit, you know, right?
Um, yeah, I'm always thinkingabout that first rather than
what I'm wearing.
Sean (39:29):
But yeah, man, and that and that's a struggle too.
Some people just don't know howto cope with.
Josh (39:37):
Not being the most important thing in their own
lives?
Yes, I think that's true.
Sean (39:42):
I think that's a maturity thing.
I think when it comes to havinga kid, some people can't get
away from the selfish ways oftheir own.
Yeah.
Josh (39:52):
I mean, everybody's favorite word to hear is their
own, their own name, and likewe're all I think, inherently
some degree of selfish.
Sean (40:00):
But yeah, when you have kids you have to you can still
be selfish, you just have toback up on it.
Josh (40:05):
Yeah, like that's in, I don't think some people I always
say that I'm selfish in a waywhere I will, um, I will do
something that I know I need, uh, in order to be better for you
know, everyone else, um, like, Iwould take care of myself first
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.
My dad, my dad wrote me aletter when I was young and I
didn't really get it till later.
But you know, it was basicallydo something nice for yourself
every day, because basically noone else really does.
No one else will you know that'sa good point so you know, treat
yourself and then you'll beable to do what you need to do
for other people.
I'm not always first on my list, like I will say, like probably
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most days I'm like waking upand you know, immediately
jumping into, you know, aparenting role where I've got to
do something for my daughter ormy son, and you know whatever
I've got to do.
But yeah, I try to do somethinggood for me every day.
Sean (41:02):
Yeah, and that gets away from you.
Sometimes also it's likeanything else, Like you have to
do things for yourself.
But sometimes I feel myselfthat I have to make sure my
daughter's happy before I'mhappy.
Josh (41:19):
Oh yeah, you got this dad guilt about going out and doing
something for you.
Yeah yeah, that can be tough.
It was harder when they wereyounger and they would cry when
you walk out the door.
Right Now, my son's like onYouTube watching people play
Minecraft or something hedoesn't even know I left.
Sean (41:38):
Oh yeah, my daughter loves the ones if I put on toys, just
watching kids play with toys.
Josh (41:47):
Man, this generation is so weird.
Yeah, like even watching peopleplay games, like I mean, I have
friends who you know go onTwitch and watch people play
games and stuff, but I don'tknow about you, but when I was a
kid, if I went to your houseand we were going to play video
games and it was single player,I could give a fuck less about
how you were doing Exactly.
I was just waiting for my turn.
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Yep, I was hoping you weregoing to fall off the ledge so
that I could play.
I didn't want to watch anybodyelse play video games.
Now you know, I think the nextgeneration like all into Twitch.
Watching other people playgames huge thing.
And now it's watching otherpeople play with toys.
This is pretty soon it's goingto be a real meadow.
It'll be watching people,watching people play games.
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We're going to get further andfurther away.
There's going to be one personwho plays video games from out
and then everybody watches.
Sean (42:42):
Everybody just watches.
Yeah, like it's going to be anhbo special, yeah, weird.
But yeah, I mean it's a greatum.
It's a great selling point,though, because these kids get
on there and stuff you've neverseen before and they're watching
kids unbox it.
They're watching kids get itthere and stuff you've never
seen before and they're watchingkids unbox it.
They're watching kids get itout.
They're playing into theexcitement of having that and
what it does.
It's not like you used to do.
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Toys are us.
You walk around and you seesomething you've never seen
before.
Now you're seeing everything onYouTube, and that's the way I
mean those companies have to beloving it.
Josh (43:17):
You're not going to stores .
I mean, it used to be the tallgiraffe that called you in to
get a toy.
Sean (43:22):
Right Now it's little, jill and Jan are playing with it
saying buy it, buy it tell yourdad buy it.
Here's the affiliate link.
Josh (43:33):
Yeah, man, I think you're right.
Here's the affiliate link.
Yeah, yeah, man, I think you'reright.
There's uh, I mean there issome cool opportunities that
that stuff brings, like somebodycould buy a toy that you could
never afford and you can watchthem like experience the opening
or whatever the unboxing.
I guess there is some coolfactor in that.
You know, like, I'm not goingto buy my son a $1,000 toy, but
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some asshole kid on YouTube isgoing to buy that $1,000 toy.
Sean (43:57):
They got it for free.
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Josh (43:59):
So it's going to make our kids want it, and he's got all
the views to pay for it, right,but you know, so I guess there's
that.
But yeah, I think consumerismin this, you know, post youtube
era is going to be, is justweird, um, different than when
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we were kids, like I don't know.
I guess the most expensivething that I used to ask for
when I was a kid was, uh, videogames or cds or uh, maybe like
pokemon cards, and that was likeyou know, I'd be asking my
parents for like 30 bucks like avideo game back.
That was like you know, I'd beasking my parents for like 30
bucks.
Like a video game back then waslike 30, 40 dollars, right,
pokemon cards, you know, maybeif you got a whole box of them
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would have been like 30 bucks.
Sean (44:42):
Yeah, like the biggest thing was a console.
Josh (44:45):
Sure, and that was like once every seven fucking years,
like it wasn't every coupleyears.
Sean (44:51):
But then there was a place called Blockbuster where you
didn't have to buy all yourgames.
Josh (44:56):
Yeah, right, right, you could rent out games.
Man, where did that go?
Is there any place that letsyou rent games?
Sean (45:02):
No, but I recently went up into my old room and my parents
looking for something and Icame across a VHS tape that had
Blockbuster on it.
Oh shit, across a VHS tape thathad Blockbuster on it.
Oh shit, If you're watchingthis Blockbuster If they ever
open again.
Josh (45:17):
I don't want to see what that account is going to be that
late fee.
I was recently.
I saw Pete Davidson'scollecting unopened VHS tapes.
Sean (45:27):
Oh, I saw that too.
Josh (45:32):
I guess they're worth like $20,000, $30,000 in some
occasions.
You got any unopened ones there, Josh?
No, I mean that's.
It's fun to podcast the onething that.
Sean (45:39):
Maybe we'll get mats for our chairs.
Finally, I never thought aboutbuying the Not Deal here.
Buy a movie and not watch it.
Well, you know, you're acollector, you're a collector, I
am a collector.
Josh (45:52):
But yeah, Should we talk about your collections or save
that for another time?
Sean (45:57):
I think we saved that one, saved that one.
Yeah, that's an episode initself.
Josh (46:00):
It's a big topic collections it is.
Sean (46:06):
But yeah, going back to, I wouldn't change anything with
being a husband and being afather.
I wouldn't change anything withbeing a husband and being a
father.
I think it is a second job.
There's times it is a secondjob, yeah, no doubt.
I mean.
Work can be stressful, so canhome life and choosing to do the
(46:29):
right things and making theright choices.
Josh (46:31):
Yeah, no doubt.
Sean (46:38):
But not in a bad way, like I'd rather be stressed about
making choices at home than bestressed about making choices at
work oh really, yeah, I thinkI'm the opposite bro, you'd
rather be yeah work choices andstress at work feels like
nothing to me compared to likehome stresses and home.
Josh (46:53):
home decisions right like yeah work, like at work feels
like nothing to me compared tohome stresses and home decisions
Right At work.
I don't feel very, very rarelydo I feel stressed about
something at work.
Sean (47:07):
And it's not because my job is not stressful Right.
It's just because it doesn'tmatter.
Josh (47:12):
It doesn't have that impact on me that home issues
can have.
I guess maybe partially is Idon't worry about losing my job.
That's true.
If I don't do the work that Ihave to do, my repercussions are
pretty low.
Sean (47:32):
I mean, worst case scenario, my client fires me,
but you know next, yeah, and Ithink that's where work and
being a parent at the same time,um like, I always see, uh, what
others think of me, so like mywork ethic at work and then how
(47:53):
my kid acts out, I'm responsiblefor all of that.
Josh (47:57):
Do you care about how other people see you?
Sean (47:59):
No.
Josh (48:01):
Really.
No, you kind of just said youdid my work ethic part.
Okay, you want them to knowthat you're not there?
Sean (48:08):
Yeah, if you're going to give me a job.
I'm going to do it 100%.
That's how I feel like a fatheris.
If you have a kid, you shouldgive it 100%.
Josh (48:17):
Okay, fair, yeah.
Yeah, I think this is one ofthe things we are similar on.
Is that like we don't reallygive a fuck what people think
about our own appearance, right?
Or like how people really thinkabout us in general?
Sean (48:35):
Like I might care what you think about me at work in my
work ethic and I'm always a niceguy and laid-back guy but once
I leave work, if you see me outlike I don't care what you think
about me in that situation yeah, like I am what I am at work
professional yeah, yeah, I'mpretty much the same person at
work.
Josh (48:54):
Uh, my professionalism maybe lacks a little bit again,
probably because nobody's gonnafire me for the same fuck.
But um, but yeah, I just don't.
I just don't give a shit whatyou think you know, I mean like
public image.
Like I'll, I'll go outsidesometimes and grab the mail and
(49:14):
you know be wearing, be wearingmy pajamas or a fucking wife
beater or something, and likeyou know my wife's, like you're
going to go outside, I'm likeyeah, don't give a fuck.
My neighbor has a problem withwhat I'm getting the mail in,
and that's his problem.
Sean (49:28):
There's nothing on the H-I-S that says I have to dress
up to get my mail yeah, fuckthat, yeah Well.
Says I have to dress up to getmy mail yeah, fuck that, yeah,
well that.
Here's another thing, then,when it comes to parenting, like
how do you feel, what route doyou take?
Correcting your kid out inpublic?
Josh (49:43):
smack them.
I'm just kidding.
Um, okay, correcting bad hate.
Yeah, it's tough.
So we're both kind of gentleparents in the scheme of things,
Like you know.
I think that's something we'reboth alike in as well.
(50:03):
Like you know, neither of usare going to actually beat our
kids or anything like that.
Or, you know, do something.
You speak for yourself.
Sean (50:10):
Okay, all right, all right .
Oh, okay, all right, all right.
Josh (50:13):
But uh, you know, I, I'm, I I try to redirect and like um,
uh, model, good behavior andthings like that.
But If my son's acting up orsomething and we can't fix it,
we just generally leave whateverwe're doing.
Sean (50:32):
Right.
Josh (50:32):
And we're just getting the fuck out of there.
And with my daughter, if she'shaving a bad time and just
screaming, she's one and a halfLike what am I going to do?
Stop it.
Sean (50:42):
Right, exactly Nothing I can do there.
Yeah, I think, with your sonand my daughter at that age,
like just leaving the situation.
Josh (50:50):
Sometimes we have to leave early.
It happens less these days,when he was younger.
Now the thing is sometimes he,if he, like you know, gets,
doesn't get his way when he'sout playing with like other kids
, at the playground or at thepark or something, something
goes wrong or he trips and falls.
Sometimes he's like real scream, crying like real loud, and
(51:13):
then I'm like, oh man, you know,disturbing the peace, we gotta,
we gotta pick it up, we gotta,we gotta, I gotta get him to
stop.
Crying is my thing and I thinkpartially that's because I don't
know about you, but my dad wasalways like quit your fucking
crying.
Yeah, we weren't allowed to cry.
I think that was just like 90skids.
We weren't allowed to cry.
Sean (51:32):
Well, that's the thing I see people in stores sometimes
just screaming and causing ascene and that's not doing
anything better.
I always felt like getting upclose in the face, expressing in
a different voice works alittle better than embarrassing,
I suppose, because by youscreaming oh for sure the kid
into panic.
Josh (51:53):
Yeah, no, that's, it makes them even worse.
It's terrible to scream yourkids, but it's like do you even
love this kid, do you?
You know, like, what are youdoing?
Sometimes I really wonder.
Like I look at parents inpublic, I'm like do you even
like your kid?
Sean (52:04):
or what are you doing at home?
If you're like screaming thisis okay, yeah, wal.
If this is okay, yeah, walmart.
Yeah, what are you doing?
Josh (52:10):
Yeah, no, you know, I get it, being frustrated at your
wit's end, like it can happen,especially, let's say, you got a
lot of kids or something, oryou had a real bad day, or you
know you're a single parent.
I'm sure that shit's hard, butlike, yeah, I'm with you.
I don't really yell at him,public or not, and I'm not
(52:32):
demanding of him to change hisbehavior.
We more or less try to talkabout it.
Sean (52:37):
So recently we went to Target and we went for school
clothes shopping, if I can talk,and there was a woman there and
she had a cart and there waslike a baby sitting up at the
top part.
There was two kids in the cartand then three boys following
(52:59):
them and when I look at thatsituation I'm like there's no
way she's happy with us, becausethere's no fucking way.
Josh (53:10):
You think she just regrets everything.
Two of the boys.
I mean, you don't have six kidswithout making some decision
about having kids, Like she waspart of that equation.
Sean (53:22):
She was part of that equation and there was a
decision made on each one andafter it looked like two in her
life.
It was a bad decision for therest.
But two of the boys are kickingeach other in the aisle.
Next thing I turn around she'syelling at them.
They're rolling, wrestlingaround on the floor.
The one that's standing is likekicking at the two.
(53:44):
The kids in the car are pullingstuff off the shelves.
Josh (53:50):
ah, and it's just disaster it's total chaos, yeah like
okay, what do you do in thatscenario?
Sean (53:56):
I'm not going to be in this.
Josh (53:58):
Fucking kids like get, like that's where the buck stops
, all right let's say, you're,you're, you're your uncle, right
, you're your uncle and, uh, youknow you've and you're watching
all your nieces and nephews orsomething.
You've got six kids you've gotto watch and they're all just
fucking disaster, like that.
(54:19):
What are you doing?
Sean (54:20):
I mean, in a setting, in a house, I'm going to be like hey
, you two go here, you two gohere.
You go to here Separate Sitdown, don't move until I come.
Hey, you two go here.
You two go here.
You go to here Separate Sitdown, don't move until I come
and talk to you two.
I mean, maybe that works.
I don't know, I've never beenin that situation, but that
would be my plan.
Josh (54:36):
It sounds pretty good.
Yeah, it sounds good.
Sean (54:38):
And have a discussion with each of them, or separate them
and say here's your plan partner, here's your plan partner,
right, but you have differentdesignated areas.
Okay, and if you can be goodLike stations and can be good,
yes and if you can be good forthose 10 minutes, I'll switch
the partners up.
Josh (54:54):
Oh, and that way all of y'all can play different.
Sean (54:56):
Oh wow, Now that situation's a little different
than this woman being in Targetwith six kids.
She can't really do playpartners there, no, and like are
you telling me these kids don'tdo this at home, where you feel
safe enough to go by yourselfwith six kids?
And they're right, even if I?
Josh (55:12):
had six kids.
I mean I would, man, it's hardto say right, like maybe she
just has no other option, butlike I would try to do
everything I could to not goshopping take all six at once,
well for sure, unless there'ssix more at home, right, um, but
damn, yeah I would.
I would do everything I couldnot to go shopping with six.
I mean, we just went to themall yesterday and it just went
(55:34):
to with our two and it just feltlike just too much.
Because you know when you're Ifeel like when I'm at the mall
I'm in high alert like I'm likelooking at everybody making sure
there's nobody weird coming up,making sure that no one's
fucking stealing my wife's purseoff her shoulder or something,
or your kids were like threefeet away, my son is just not
like aimlessly walking in adifferent direction, like I feel
(55:56):
.
Like you know, I'm constantly onhigh alert in the mall and I
could not imagine having morethan the two.
Sean (56:01):
Honestly, any more responsibility, and I probably
would have cracked because I waslike anxiety there well, and
that's where it plays a partwhen there's two in a home and
you and your wife and your kidsgo out shopping.
If your daughter who's youngeris not expected to be perfect
(56:23):
for two hours straight whileshopping, if she has a blow-up
or she needs to be walked out,you or your wife can take her
out and still 1v1 with withyourself we can kind of 1v1 it
yeah but if you go there andyou're, you're a dad by yourself
or you're a mom by yourself,you have the same situation and
that kid starts to cry.
You got no option.
(56:44):
You have no options.
Yeah, drop everything or justlet the kid cry.
Then usually, when the kidstarts crying and you're giving
all the attention to the baby,then the older kids like hey,
I'm still here, I want my shit.
Josh (56:56):
Yeah, that's why we came here.
Sean (56:58):
Yeah, yeah, we're going to game, stop mom but you spoke
earlier about like playgroundsand I don't know your perception
on that.
But like if my kid goes to, ifmy daughter goes to a playground
and say there's 10 kids outthere, like I can't just sit
there 50 feet away and be likego play, like I have to be eyes
(57:23):
on the whole time.
Yeah, I want to make sure noother kids are mistreating her
and I want to make sure she'snot mistreating other kids or
getting stolen, or gettingstolen.
Josh (57:32):
There's a couple kids that got— Maybe I should have put
that first.
There's a couple kids that gotstolen out of Morgan Grove Park.
Sean (57:39):
Oh really, yeah, I mean, it doesn't take—I mean it only
takes that second to not—Seconds bro.
Josh (57:46):
Yeah, I mean I would.
Yeah, I'm the same way.
I mean we used to be calledhelicopter parents by, like my
older siblings or you knowrandom people, friends.
We had some friends that were alot more, you know, laid back
parenting styles and you knowthey would joke that we were
like always up close, like whenthey were on the playground.
Sean (58:07):
Oh, don't fall, you know.
Josh (58:09):
So I mean mean, definitely with our first, with our son,
it was we were more nervousabout that stuff.
Sean (58:15):
And you know, even still, when we go to the park or
something, yeah, I'm, I can't beon my phone or like you know,
but there's an age range I feellike elementary like my niece is
10 once my daughter gets 10, 9,10, like I'm not gonna be that
much on her, like I'll lay backsome, but I feel like right now
I can be there in the moment, ifI need to be, to teach her a
(58:37):
lesson.
Like if two kids get to thesteps at the same time and
they're arguing and she getsupset.
Like it's okay, like you taketurns, both of you are going to
the same place, right, it's allgoing to be good.
Yeah, like learn that lesson atthe same time.
Like I still want her to havefun.
But also I'm teaching lessonswhen I'm out there yeah, that's
true, I'm with you on that.
(58:58):
Not when other kids come in andtheir parents are like, hey,
I'm going use cigarettes, playsome solitaire on my phone and
if I turn around and you'rebeating the shit out of another
kid.
Go, Johnny.
I mean there's parents likethat.
Josh (59:16):
There is yeah.
Sean (59:17):
Go learn on your own, but I like lessons being taught in
the moment.
Josh (59:23):
Yeah, no, same way.
Definitely, I think we're thesame in that way.
Definitely, I think we're thesame in that way.
So I think we're going to planon doing an episode every week,
right?
Sean (59:38):
Yeah, look at every week.
This episode is just more aboutus.
We'll start to get into othertopics and specific things to
talk about, to get into andspecific things to talk about to
get into.
But this is a little bit ofwhat we are and who we are and
the lives that we live right now.
So just to get to know us.
Josh (59:59):
Yeah, and I think we're going to put out another episode
this time next week and it'llbe on everywhere where you can
watch or listen to podcasts andlet's see, Is there anything
else?
The Unlike Podcast.
Sean (01:00:20):
Oh yeah, we didn't have to go to Walmart today.
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