Episode 59 | "Hip-Hop Hierarchies and Cultural Contradiction" - Unapodogetic

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Unapologetic episode.
What is this?

Speaker 2 (00:01):
59?
Yeah, 59,.
I think 59, bro.
It's really like 60-something,but it's 59, episode 59.
The guys are back another week.
No, we're not consistent bro.

Speaker 4 (00:14):
We trying to get consistent man.

Speaker 2 (00:15):
Hey, we're going to come back slowly.

Speaker 4 (00:16):
Yeah, I know, we got to gain your trust back.

Speaker 2 (00:19):
It's like hey, nah, episode 59, though man D's and
Newman, newman and D's Bro, theone and only bro.
We love it.
That's cause that startedsomething.

Speaker 4 (00:33):
That is something To get me a little Pumped up, nigga
.

Speaker 2 (00:36):
No, no, we we gotta you know what we know we gotta
run that we gotta run that, wegotta run that.

Speaker 1 (00:42):
Wow, I just got a jet .
Hey, hey, hey.
I'm trying to bust a rhyme withBusta Rhymes the universe
aligned.
It's summertime.
I'm finna.
Eat for all the times I ain'thave a meal, I drop so much that
I'd be ended if I had a deal.
I'm 20 years in.
I'm at it still.

(01:03):
Giving it to you fresh.
The bag is sealed.
I'm energized.
This must.
Giving it to you fresh.
The bag is sealed.
I'm energized.
This must be how that rabbitfeel, hating on me while certain
niggas get your cabbage peeled1990.
Came out the moon and startedtrapping Black truck sucked me
down the block.
I made it happen.
I've been on the run so fuckinglong I started crapping.
I'll be outside so much theythink I'm capping, rapping,

(01:24):
rapping, stacking, teaching,learning.
He's on fire, smoking burningflow, saucy butter churning.
Niggas don't smell no more.
That's concerning.
Did I do?

Speaker 2 (01:35):
that.

Speaker 1 (01:36):
It ain't my fault, did I do that?

Speaker 5 (01:39):
It ain't my fault.

Speaker 2 (01:47):
Did I do that and I hope y'all having a good one and
we on survival.
Unapologetic episode fortonight.
I don't know if you heard meUnapologetic.

Speaker 5 (02:45):
Unapologetic, unapologetic.
I'm a fucking.
I don't get it.
Why can't you want me?
Like the other boys do theystare at me while I stare at you
.
Why can't I keep you safe as myown?
One moment I have you.
The next you are gone.

(03:06):
Rehearsed steps on an emptystage.
That boy's got my heart in asilver cage, waking you on me.
Like the other boys do theystare at me while I crave you.
I walked into the room drippingin gold.

(03:49):
I can't even lie.

Speaker 2 (04:00):
I'm not even trying to be on this energy, but I'm
just not turnt enough yet.
Man, I don't think y'all get it.
We're coming back.

Speaker 5 (04:10):
I don't get it what the fuck I don't get it.
I said right, motherfucker,motherfucker.

Speaker 3 (04:31):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (04:35):
Motherfucker.
Hey, back in business.
Ah, episode 59.
We're back.
What's going on, bro?
How you doing, man, I'm doinggood bro, I'm almost done with
school.

Speaker 4 (04:52):
bro had my last presentation of my school career
, bro, the last time I'mprobably gonna have to public
speak for a while.
Hey, let's go.

Speaker 3 (05:03):
I'm so tired of that shit.

Speaker 2 (05:05):
You feeling good?

Speaker 4 (05:05):
Yeah, I'm feeling good man.

Speaker 2 (05:07):
Hell yeah, bro it feels like such a relief.
You said I'm free.

Speaker 4 (05:10):
Bro, that's like the one thing I just hated about
school bro.

Speaker 2 (05:13):
Hey, now what else happened, though, bro?
You gotta tell people what elsehappened.
What's up, bro?
You got the email.

Speaker 4 (05:18):
Dog, oh bro you know the hard work finally paying off
.

Speaker 2 (05:23):
Yeah, the hard work finally paying off.
Hey, bro, all those times whenNewman was doing homework, bro,
newman wasn't doing, newmanwasn't doing homework.
The bullshit, right, right.

Speaker 4 (05:33):
Your boy out here Graduating with honors.
Man, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (05:37):
No.

Speaker 4 (05:37):
Black man.
You feel him.
I'm happy I'm getting somethingFor all this hard work, bro,
yeah.

Speaker 3 (05:43):
All them times.

Speaker 4 (05:43):
Where I told niggas nah, I can't do it.
I got homework tonight.
Now they get it and it's allbecause I just wanted to be
responsible and do the reading.
Bro, I really found out thehard way, like the readings that
the professors assign.
Like most of them, niggasaren't reading it.

Speaker 2 (05:59):
Nah, yeah, bro, and then you take the test're like
damn, yeah, you know, yeah, so Iwas really doing the readings
bro.
Nah, I get that, bro.
We all proud of you, man.
We love you, bro.

Speaker 4 (06:07):
Thank you man.
I appreciate that man.

Speaker 2 (06:09):
It's a nice day.
We got a lot of topics to cover.
Oh man, it's a tough.
Some tough ones too.
I don't know.
Yeah, I know off mic, we'rejust talking, bro.
It's crazy how big my son'sgetting though.

Speaker 4 (06:22):
Bro, huge man, huge.
I can't believe he's about tobe one soon, bro.
Yeah, that's crazy dog, so man.
That's truly insane, bro.

Speaker 2 (06:34):
Man, that's different .
Anyway, what's up, bro?
What we gonna get into first?
Man, it's a nice day, sonny.
Bro, what do you wanna get intofirst?
We can start.
Do you wanna start with Music?
We can start Music.
We can go Sudden events.

Speaker 4 (06:50):
I think it's always good to just start, to start off
with Recent events.

Speaker 2 (06:56):
You want to go to Lil Uzi Hospital?
Lil Uzi Hospital yeah because Ididn't even hear about that.
Lil Uzi in the hospital yeah,man, sadly Lil Uzi in the
hospital.
Yeah, man, sadly Lil Uzi.
Our brethren looks like theytook him to the hospital.
Man took him on a gurney.
What did he go to the hospitalfor?
No, they said something illness.

(07:17):
Praise Lil Uzi man.
I hope he didn't OD or nothing.
I hope he's right.
I saw that this morning.
I was like man, we don't needno more.
I don't know.
I know those rappers and stuffbuilding that lean and pills and
stuff.
It just sucks when they likehave seizures or something
happens to them bad.

Speaker 4 (07:36):
I know we seen them like Lil Wayne Ross some of our
OGs immediately who I thought of, bro, yeah you don't want to
hear about you.

Speaker 2 (07:44):
You know people used to listen to or listen to or
support you know being sick orill, so stuff like that.
I was just like damn hopethey're okay, you know, or hope
they get sober, you know,whatever helps them, yeah hey
that's crazy too, because I feellike I haven't heard nothing
from Uzi in a minute.

Speaker 1 (07:59):
Like.

Speaker 4 (08:00):
He dropped some music like last year, but I didn't
listen to it or nothing.

Speaker 2 (08:03):
Bro, it sounded like one of those albums you drop the
guy that do.

Speaker 4 (08:08):
And that's what I feel like.
I feel like the the peak oflike Uzi has kind of come to an
end.
You know, I feel like Since youbrought him up right now.
I'm like yeah, I haven'tthought about Uzi in a while and
I remember it was a time he wasjust always out there.

Speaker 2 (08:23):
I don't think Uzi has the same cult following as,
like Playboy Cardi does, that'sinteresting.

Speaker 4 (08:28):
That's interesting.
They always try to like putthose two together.
Yeah, you know, like Cardiversus Uzi, you know.

Speaker 2 (08:35):
but I think they're different, though, because
obviously Uzi's peak is waybigger than Cardi's peak was.

Speaker 1 (08:39):
Yeah, I think so yeah .

Speaker 2 (08:40):
Uzi has a diamond record with fucking Exo Tour
Life, so I'm like Uzi's peak isdefinitely bigger than any of
those guys' peaks was.
But longevity is like yeah, itwas like Yachty.
Yachty has been kind ofconsistent.
Yeah he's been around for awhile now too.

Speaker 4 (08:54):
Like you probably kind of get a project, because
when did that what Minnesotacame out in?
Like 2015, right, 2016?

Speaker 2 (08:59):
Yeah, big get cold like minnesota we kind of got a
project like two years ago.
So I'm like whether you like itor not, we got a project, you
know, so yeah, yeah of course 21savage got that new class, but
that's bro.

Speaker 4 (09:12):
Niggas is really getting old and tell me why, bro
.
Like I was talking to my brotherright about these new rappers
like because he bro, he swearsup and down, he's like into
underground okay rap music brobro, I'm not familiar with none
of these niggas he talking about, bro, and it's just funny to
see how, like the evolution ofjust like hip-hop and just like

(09:33):
rap music in general is going,bro, because you know how, like
like rappers in like our agedemographic all have like a
certain um, they have like acertain style of name.
You know like it's like littlesomething, young, something.
You know what I mean.
It's always around that type ofthat type of style of name.

(09:54):
So, like these new rappers, bro, a lot of their names to me
feel like it's like an instagramhandle.

Speaker 5 (10:01):

Speaker 4 (10:02):
So it's like it's interesting to hear some of
these new rappers names becauseit sound to me.
It sound like a gamer tag orlike an instagram handle look at
you be broke like thatsometimes.

Speaker 2 (10:11):
Yeah it do, yeah it do so it's, it's interesting,
bro.

Speaker 4 (10:15):
So it's like whenever he's saying like some of these
names where I'm like nigga, I'mnot familiar with none of these
niggas, you talk about none ofthem for real, for real, bro,
none of them, not one name, ringa bell.
Like after he told me about it,I feel like I'm starting to
recognize it a lot more now, butprior to him like telling me
about some of these, folks.

Speaker 2 (10:31):
What was one of the dudes?
He mentioned One of them off.

Speaker 4 (10:35):
Jump the first name, I think of Ken Carson.
I know that doesn't really fitinto any of the shit I was just
talking about, but I guess Istill a new nigga though.
Yeah, yeah and bro, and it'sjust so funny to hear like bro,
he's all talking to me about,like oh, this is the greatest
artist, um, within the last like20 years, yada, yada, not ken
carson specifically, but likethe people, yeah, and I'm just

(10:58):
like bro.
I'm like did I sound thisfucking stupid when I was a kid?
No disrespect moses but likedid I sound this crazy when I
was a kid, trying to talk aboutsome of my favorite rappers?

Speaker 2 (11:10):
was better than some of the legends.
Nah, because you got to think.
Some of my favorite rappers arestill like our legends.

Speaker 3 (11:17):
I think, that's the difference.

Speaker 5 (11:18):
That's a good point.

Speaker 2 (11:19):
It's like some of our favorite rappers is like niggas
favorite rappers.
Yeah, Like I don't know.
Like me and you come from.
Like especially you, bro.
I remember you putting me onfor like niggas, like Lupe dog
oh yeah, For niggas who aretough, listen to Lupe's like
deeper shit.
So, like I don't know, Lupe bro, listen to like someone like

(11:40):
what's up, boy, I know, I knowwhat's that.
Like god damn, I lost thought.
But anyway, some of thoserappers you was let's do back in
the day I feel like it'sdifferent, like those backpack
rappers, yeah, just different.
It's just I they, because theyall get respect and love.
I know they're not the mostpopular, but but you know it's
interesting too, bro.

Speaker 4 (11:58):
I remember back in the day it was like I remember
having a conversation with likea, like an older person back in
the day when I was like 12 itwas probably like 20, 21, like
22 and I remember talking to him, talking to him about like yo
wayne and kanye, the bestrappers of all time, type of
thing, right, and they were likebro, what do you know about
music, bro?
Like you don't know shit, youknow.

Speaker 2 (12:19):
And now it just feels like I'm on the other end of
that cycle but when I talk toMoses, bro, but at the same time
I feel like maybe it was alittle early, but those are the
kinds of stuff we have now.
We talk about Wayne being thebest, yeah, so yeah, that is
fair, though, because a personlike that probably grew up in
the Jehovah era, and no one'sbetter than Hope to those people
Right Hope Shit Prime 50.

Speaker 4 (12:43):
Yeah nice.
Yup, nah, because they even getinto a nasty bag when you
really start talking to some ofthem, old heads, bro, because
they start talking about likefab fucking.

Speaker 2 (12:57):
Hey, nah, this does lead me somewhere, because now I
got to ask you Did you see theMount Rushmore that got put out?
Uh-uh, all right.
So I wanted to ask you You'reMount Rushmore, so there's a
Rushmore that got published,right, white rappers, oh, white
rappers.
Yeah, someone put it out.
So first I'm going to tell youthe list and then I want to hear
your list after Okay.
Then I'm going to ask you someother questions after right.

(13:17):
So the list.
It was like Eminem.
That's obvious.

Speaker 4 (13:20):
I want to say Russ was on there.
Russ, you see the first two.
I knew they was, that's a nobrainer.
The next two, I have no ideawho you could really put in
there.

Speaker 2 (13:38):
And then it was Paul Wall.

Speaker 4 (13:40):
Paul Wall.
Okay, that's fair, that's fair,that's.
The people chant right there.

Speaker 2 (13:44):
So I want to ask you who's your four white rappers?

Speaker 4 (13:47):
I think those three right there were, those were
acceptable.

Speaker 2 (13:51):
So you're taking out Russ?

Speaker 4 (13:53):
I'm taking out Russ.

Speaker 2 (13:54):
Not enough time.

Speaker 4 (13:55):
Yeah, and then I don't even know if I, I don't
know, bro he can rap.
He can, russ can rap, but dude,I'm not going to lie, I got
Logic.
Might be one of my favoritewhite rappers over Russ bro.

Speaker 2 (14:05):
As much as I joke about Logic, Logic a rap bro.

Speaker 4 (14:08):
As black as Logic wants to be, bro, he's still a
white rapper dog.
Yeah, maybe Logic, I don't know, bro, because, dude, in my mind
I'm like, how can you make awhite rapper Mount Rushmore when
it's like, bro, there's onlylike four of them to begin with,
bro, only like four or fivewhite dudes to begin with.

Speaker 2 (14:30):
Now look at here.
Okay, now, if we're countinggroups like I got the beastie
boys the beastie boys.

Speaker 4 (14:36):
Come on, bro, if we're counting groups.

Speaker 2 (14:38):
I'm taking rest out and putting the bc boy nah, nah,
action Bronson.
Action Bronson's a good one.
He might be that last one.

Speaker 4 (14:49):
Yeah, I need to hear some more white guys though
Action Bronson, Because you know, I feel like I can't even think
of no white rappers right now,bro, it's like my mind's just
drawn to black.

Speaker 2 (14:58):
Penelope Ice.

Speaker 4 (14:59):
Nah, definitely not.
Ice, Ice Baby isn't strongenough bro.

Speaker 2 (15:05):
It's not doing it for you.
I don't know how.
About Yellow Wolf?
Nah, definitely not.
Definitely not.
All right, that's fair, that'sfair, all right.
Anyway, so really he had theright rapper list, because who
really gives a fuck?
Action.

Speaker 4 (15:19):
Bronson.
G-eazy yeah, exactly, those arenames you don't hear.
And G-Eazy yeah, exactly thoseare names you don't hear.

Speaker 2 (15:24):
Let's be real.
But I wanted to ask you, sinceme and you come from an era bro,
I need the Mount Rushmore forthe past 20.
Nah, I'll go 2010s, I'm goingto go 2000, 2010.
I need your Mount Rushmore 2000to 2010?
Or 2015.
It's going to be like 15.
Yeah, that's a tough one, bro.

(15:45):
I need your four.
Bro.
Who's your Mark Rushmore, bro,wayne?
Yay, those are easy, that'seasy.
You see, this is really tough,though, too because it was
specific eras within that, andthat's why I really want to do
2010.

(16:06):
I really want to ask you 2000to 2010 and 2010 to 2025.
And that's where that makesmore sense.
That's why I really want to askyou, because I'm like, if we
really talking, bro.

Speaker 4 (16:13):
I remember all the way up until like from 2000 to
like 05, man, 50 was just like.

Speaker 2 (16:19):
Yeah, yeah, he was still hot.
Bro 50 was still hot, bro 50was hot, bro 50 was still hot.
So you had the video games, theshoes, because 2000, 2010, I
might go Ho 50, wayne and Ye,and probably Ye, yeah, that's it
.
I mean, that makes sense.
And then, from 2010 on, I'llprobably go, of course, cole,

(16:42):
kendrick, drake, fuck, drake,fuck Drake.
I know.
But, he's still.

Speaker 4 (16:51):
And then I guess probably I mean See, I feel like
that's a better conversationright there.
See, that's way more debatableright there.

Speaker 2 (16:57):
This is where it gets tough, because it's like who
are you asking, bro?
I go Wale.
Are we asking about ability?
Do sales matter?
That's why I hate these talks,because we're talking sales, you
are I don't think sales matteranymore, bro, because it's.

Speaker 4 (17:11):
It's just like it's just an outdated form of
measuring something, bro,because we can't even define
what's a sale especially allthese streams, yeah, like it
doesn't count anymore, bro,especially because it's way less
meaningful now, too, when theproducts getting pushed in your
face, as opposed to somebody hadto go somewhere to get the
product, yeah, organic.

Speaker 2 (17:30):
Yeah, you know.
So Because I'm like bro, Idon't know yet, that's really a
tough one, though that's a toughone bro, yeah.

Speaker 4 (17:39):
I know it's.
Maybe that fourth spot isreally tough, bro?
Nick Sean, Definitely not, andin my mind I feel like I'm more
inclined to give it to likeNikki or something bro.

Speaker 2 (17:49):
Oh, I'm stupid.

Speaker 4 (17:51):
Yeah, I will give it to Nikki.

Speaker 2 (17:52):
For sure, nikki.
I'm going to question Nikki.
I forgot I'm tripping.
Yeah, I'm like shit if wereally hey.
What about mixtape era?
Mixtape era who's your, who'syour, who's your, who's your?
Mount Rushmore mixtapes.

Speaker 4 (18:10):
I feel like everybody our age Is gonna have Wayne
number one.
That's just a no brainer, bro,true.

Speaker 2 (18:15):
Alright, he.
Who's your other three?
I feel like our list might be alittle different, but probably
not.
Let's see, maybe, bro.
And then what years are wetalking about?
Smith's all time bro, all time.
Who got the best mixtapes alltime?

Speaker 4 (18:36):
I need your who's, your mount rushmore I need your
big four see, because I'm reallybiased, though, bro I have,
because in my mind, when I thinkabout mixtapes, bro, I think
back to when I was a kid andwhat shit I was listening to
when I was just outside I knowmy three.

Speaker 2 (18:54):
Yeah, what are your three?
Off the top, I got waynecurrency and whiz.
Okay, but that's letting of howold I am.
Lil' Q yeah.
And you see the Wiz one toothat was going to be in there,
Wiz and Wayne Currency's a goodone, though I do kind of
remember listening to a lot ofCurrency on SoundCloud.

Speaker 4 (19:14):
Yeah, I don't remember listening to Currency
until I got older, though, bro.

Speaker 2 (19:19):
I guess you're kind of right though, but you know
you said all time yeah, it is.
Once.
I dig it on her, though thosetapes are smooth.
Yeah, those mixtapes are good.
Nah, mixtape lips, that'sreally difficult.
And then that fourth spot, I'dprobably go, probably go Fab bro

(19:54):
, you showing your age bro nigga.
But I remember that piff nigga,nigga, that piff nigga 2010,
2011, fab was dropping tapes broand that's like junior highs
kinda.
Yeah, like I feel like juniornigga.
That piff nigga 2010, 2011,.
Fab was dropping tapes bro.
And that's that's like juniorhighs kind of yeah, like I feel
like junior highs kind of wantto really be like oh, that piff,
it was on that piff.
That's why Wiz in there.

Speaker 4 (20:14):
Come on, I'll just tell you my age, like you start
using that p Raps that they usedto add on to the songs that you
downloaded from Netflix.

Speaker 2 (20:25):
I guess I could even go Ross, but that's just my age,
ross.
I don't really like Ross onthat list.
At least my era.
It felt like Ross had some heat.
It did feel like Ross had someheat.
I don't know man Music.
I know hip-hop's in a weirdspot.
I know I'm not going to listento hip-hop like I used to.

Speaker 4 (20:49):
I try pop's in a weird spot.
I know I'm not gonna listen tohip-hop like I used to, but I
try to listen to hip-hop when Ican.
But it's just not the same.
It's different.
Because you know what, bro, Ifeel like we're in like a um,
we're in like an evolving stageof hip-hop right now bro,
because I feel like after um yougot dochi winning like a grammy
and stuff.
And I know those types of awardsdon't mean anything when we're
ranking people, but like thatalbum being what's deemed like

(21:11):
mainstream now is kind of like,you know, kind of showing us
that there's a shift going onright now, what people are
consuming, or what people wantto consume as far as hip hop,
bro, as a tan, you know, yeah,so I feel like that is
definitely setting the stageBecause, again too, I feel like
it's been going on for a fewyears now, though, but like the

(21:33):
rise of, like, female rappers,bro, and the female.
MC bro, it's just taking off bro.

Speaker 2 (21:37):
I feel like that's kind of holding up rapping now.

Speaker 4 (21:40):
Yeah, they holding that shit down bro.
Kind of because it kind offeels like they're really
holding it down, because when Ithink about bro, there's All the
hits come from the people whoare rappers.
Yeah, there's a lot of likeratchet shit that they're making
right now that's stumping bro.
They got a lot of likeconscious female rappers.

Speaker 2 (21:53):
Bro, this shit's punching.

Speaker 4 (21:55):
The rap city, yeah, and then you got to think you
got like this more, likealternative type of rap artist
like Dochi and stuff like thatwho's making more experimental
type of albums.

Speaker 2 (22:06):
Could be a little bit of both.

Speaker 4 (22:07):
Yeah, you know, You're seeing a very wide
variety of women in hip-hopright now and it's feeling like
a I don't know man.
It's feeling like hip-hop'sgoing through something right
now.

Speaker 2 (22:22):
It is dude it is.
I do like that they're it isdude it is, and I do like it.
I do like that they're holdingthis down though, because, like
you said, I mean of course untilKendrick came and he started
holding this down a little bit,but even that that still was off
the back of the beef a littlebit, yeah.
So I'm like.
Yeah, I usually hear, though,it is kind of like a it, it's
kind of like a, it's a, it's a,it's a Glorilla.

Speaker 4 (22:43):
Oh yeah, it's sexy red right now I can't stand sexy
red, but yeah, I don't likesexy red either.

Speaker 2 (22:49):
I can't lie.
I feel like sexy, sexy red.
I don't know.
Yeah, I just I just don't enjoyher music.
I can't lie, but it's not forme, it's not for me, I like.

Speaker 4 (23:00):
I Gorilla got hits Cause.
You know what it is, bro, allthe Memphis rappers.

Speaker 2 (23:03):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, they honestly they all got bars.
I like that whole clickMoneybag, yo, like I do, I do
like that click they.
They all can rap.
So yeah, it is sad, though, butI do.
I do wish this summer Hopefullywe get some Some shit, though.
Yeah, I'm hoping like I don'tknow man, hopefully someone.

(23:25):
I don't know what.
It is sad, though, but I dowish this summer, hopefully we
get some shit, though.
Yeah, I'm hoping, like I don'tknow man, hopefully someone.
I don't know what we need tospice it up, but I need
something.
You think Drake's going to dropsomething?
Honestly, I think that's whatit is.
I think I need Drake to breakthese shackles.
He's trying really hard.
Nokia is pushing it now again?

Speaker 4 (23:43):
I don't know, bro.
I think it was a really bad.
They're trying.
Drake took a really bad blow tohis brand.

Speaker 2 (23:50):
I think he shouldn't have done the Sue stuff.
I think if Drake Connors wouldhave went dormant and came out
with some hits, he might havebeen back already.
But it's with the Sue-ing, andnow everyone's like oh, Drake's
a bitch, he's suing.

Speaker 4 (24:03):
Yeah, everyone's, everyone's like.

Speaker 2 (24:04):
Oh, drake's a bitch, he's suing Cause that's that
white man In him coming out.
Yeah, you know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (24:07):
That's that tiny.

Speaker 2 (24:07):
Yeah, that's that.
Yeah, that's that white boy Inhim.

Speaker 4 (24:09):
No, no, no, I'm gonna sue you.

Speaker 2 (24:11):
It's the tiny Dude Right.
Nah, I'm being funny.
It is the white boy In him.
Sadly, sadly.
Yeah, I'm going to sue you.
You punched me.
You punched me in the mouth,even though I called you a
nigger.
I was like come on Drake.
So, yeah, I don't know, man, Ido feel bad, but I think Drake's

(24:31):
dropping this summer and Ithink it's just a matter of if
it's hitting or not.

Speaker 4 (24:35):
Again, I don't think it's going to.
I think it doesn't matter whathe drops, it could drake hit.
it's not going, bro, number oneI don't think drake is ever
gonna have like a drake hit.
You think it's done?
Oh yeah, I think it is done forthe most part.
Like I said, bro, we're notgreat.
Are we gonna have a talk?
Bro drake, now we're gonnaafter this beef.

(24:57):
Bro, the, the newer generationof people, see drake differently
than how we see drake.
We still remember, we remembertake care, bro, these new kids
don't, they don't give a fuck,they don't care at all.
See Drake differently than howwe see.

Speaker 2 (25:07):
Drake, we still remember, we remember Take care,
bro, these new kids don't, theydon't give a fuck, they don't
care at all, they don't give afuck.

Speaker 4 (25:10):
They said shut up, yeah, and that's what they know.
That's what they know.
All right, now, you're notlying.
That's the Drake they'regrowing up with right now, drake
.
I don't think we could so is itover?

Speaker 2 (25:24):
is it over for drake in the?

Speaker 4 (25:25):
sense, I don't think it's over.

Speaker 5 (25:26):
He's not gonna.

Speaker 2 (25:27):
He's not gonna have that like platinum diamond
record, like drake drake, Ithink it's gonna be.

Speaker 4 (25:31):
You know, I definitely don't think this is
gonna be the end of like drakeever coming out with a hit, you
know because tiktok's still athing, you know, they're still
just.
I feel like drake stilldefinitely has the capability of
just making a trendy track.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, it's still Drake.
Yeah, but as far as a goodalbum or anything, anything even
remotely close worth listeningto.

(25:53):
All the runners left the house.
Yeah, I think it's done.
I think Drake's done, bro, thatwhole bro, his brand.
Seriously it's done.

Speaker 2 (26:01):
You think it's done.
I'm not going to say that yet.
I'm not going to say that yetI'm not going to say that.

Speaker 4 (26:04):
Yet, bro, when I look at what's happened to Drake,
from just a marketingperspective it's bad and Drake
himself being a brand, it's badfor his image, bro.
It's very bad, dude.
It is bad you got peoplecalling you a pedophile dog yeah
.

Speaker 2 (26:19):
You know you're, come on on.
Nah, it's bad, it's bad, but Ido think you can overturn it,
man.
How what hits, bro?
You know there's not enough.

Speaker 4 (26:27):
Hits you know how you know drake had what 15, 20
years worth of hits prior tothis beef and it all went out
the window.

Speaker 2 (26:34):
It did, it went out the window they said you used to
call me on my cell phone.
They said threw that shit out,the window now I think I think
this is a summer, I think thisis making our brigate for drake
and I think this is drake's lastchance to ever knock because if
we're even being for reals too,I think it gets even deeper too
, especially with this diddysituation lingering in our like

(26:58):
cultural consciousness right nowbro true, being associated with
like sexual deviancy, right now, bro is not a good look being a
pedophile being an abuser ofwomen, not not to say that it's
ever been a good, but yeah, butbro, it's a that's a very
sensitive topic right now, bro.

Speaker 4 (27:16):
You know what?

Speaker 3 (27:16):
I mean you're on the wrong.

Speaker 4 (27:18):
You're on the wrong side of history, right?
Yeah, that's true, you know.
So.
It's like people are verycautious, especially, too, when
we think about, uh, thesurviving daddy shit.
Then a few years ago, we hadthe r kelly shit yeah, you know
what?
I mean.
So now it's to the point wherebecause again we've seen people
ask these questions of how howdid y'all allow this to happen
at the time?
You know.
So now it's coming to the pointwhere it's like I think people

(27:40):
are aware enough of you know.
Uh, if this was years ago, maybeI would have been one of the
people supporting Kells.
That makes sense.
Yeah, you know, so it comes tothe point where it's like again,
there has to be some type ofwhat's the word I'm looking for
I can't find the right word forlack of better word like

(28:01):
conclusion to when you'relistening to Drake, you know,
again, there has to be some typeof.
So when I think about this asas a brand, when I think about
Drake as a brand, right, One ofthe biggest things that brands
do is their ability to positionthemselves in the mind of the
consumer.
So, when I say this, think aboutsomething like water, like a

(28:23):
water brand, for example right.
Different water brands hold updifferent spaces in our mind for
what we think about them, right?

Speaker 1 (28:30):
Like when we think about Arrowhead.

Speaker 4 (28:31):
We think about affordable water right, we think
about affordability, freshsprings right, but what comes to
your mind when I say Fiji orVoss, you know what I mean.
That's brand positioning.

Speaker 3 (28:43):
So when you?

Speaker 4 (28:44):
think Fiji.
You think more like luxurious,higher quality water.
We think about maybe like thefiltration process.
That's brand positioning, right, I think it's like Disneyland,
exactly high price yeah, andit's all about the thoughts that
come to your mind when you hearthose words.
And how do those thoughtsrelate to um similar products

(29:06):
and similar brands?

Speaker 2 (29:07):
so drake's a pedophile, yeah, so again yeah,
think about that, his brandpositioning.

Speaker 4 (29:12):
Now when you think about drake, you're no longer
just thinking about light skin,you know um, just sensitive,
emotional man you know, there'sa there's a different thought
and association.
There's a darker associationthat comes to your mind when you
think Drake, there is now.
Yeah you know what I mean andyou can't necessarily get rid of
that.
You know Drake could have hits.

(29:33):
But when you hear the nameDrake.
There's a darker associationaround it, bro.
You know it's just againpedophilia and stuff like that.
You can't just come back fromthat, bro.
It's always going to linger.
Yeah, you're right.
There's always going to besomebody who's going to be out
there.
But remember, you know, it'sthe same thing with MJ bro we
still see it with MichaelJackson.

(29:54):
To this day, there's alwaysstill those people.

Speaker 2 (29:56):
Well, he got proven innocent, bro, and it don't
matter.

Speaker 4 (30:05):
It investigated him.
It doesn't matter, bro, fine,fine, whatever, and that's the
point.
Like there's always going to bethose people that remember and
they're going to continue tobring it up.

Speaker 2 (30:09):
Oh yeah, make sure people don't forget are you
right, I do all right.
I think this is it, though Ithink, uh, you think you might
think it's done.
I think this is the last summer, I think drink up.
I think it's his last chance.

Speaker 4 (30:22):
The last summer.

Speaker 2 (30:23):
Yeah, bro, I think I think this summer he delivers an
album and it got some likeHotline Bling type shit on there
, some like God's Plan type shit.
I think he's back.

Speaker 4 (30:34):
I think that might be the only way to get Everybody
back on Drake.

Speaker 2 (30:37):
If not, it's like A retirement album or something.
The last summer.
Yeah, yeah, it can't be.
It can't be no gangster, I'm akiller.
Nigga rap.
It got to be like someCaribbean.
It can't even be Kingpin typeof shit.

Speaker 4 (30:47):
I don't want no Kingpin.
You know you're sending people,so I don't want to hear none of
that.

Speaker 2 (30:50):
It can, but that can't be the hit.
Hit got to be some Caribbeanfucking Drake with an accent.
Yeah, controller, controller,that's what we need Like
controller.
Controller, that's what we need.
Like controller was a hit.
We need something like thatagain, drake, don't put on an
accent, don't release yeah,because, yeah, I think all his
hits with they all kind ofcaribbean afro beats, really
think about it really.

(31:11):
So I'm like that's what we need.
Again I was the other one andyou know one dance like yeah.
So all that fake ass like drakedoes accent on yeah, that's
like yeah, that's what I need ifdrake do something.
I like Drake with the melodies.
I don't like Drake when he acttough.
Come on, I'm kind of with himFor that one, even though when

(31:31):
Drake do act tough, the beats dobe hard though I can't lie it
be the hardest beats.
But I take I gotta hear Drakebe like I send 20 niggas To your
house.
Eh, like I hate, I hate to hearhim with his Canadian accent.
Shit, god damn it, drake.
But I do want to stay on musica little bit.
Should we go from the pile ofLaRussell?
Yeah, I don't know ifLaRussell's doing this himself.

(31:54):
It seems like LaRussell's doingit or whoever is beyond
LaRussell, bro, he's beenpopping on my social media a lot
.
His marketing team is great.
Or if it's him and his people,whatever, very good.
Or his tiktok, instagram,youtube, right, he's been
popping on my feet a lot, so Itry some of his songs.
I like le russell man.
I feel like he really good bro,he good rapper.
Um, I don't know, I I do feellike it's kind of what me and

(32:16):
you talked about, like it's notso much shooting up bang, bang
killing he make.

Speaker 4 (32:20):
He make rap music for everyday, niggas bro yeah, it's
.
He lets you know in the songthat he has rent.

Speaker 2 (32:27):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that he's behind on type of shit
.
Yeah, he's talking about it.

Speaker 4 (32:32):
He's not flexing on you with the chains.

Speaker 2 (32:34):
He's not talking about.

Speaker 4 (32:34):
I got the foreign.

Speaker 2 (32:36):
Nah, yeah, he's just everyday life, type shit.

Speaker 4 (32:39):
Yeah, and that's really what I feel like is more
popping right now too, as far aslike at least what I've been
searching for, because I've beenon more like the Larry June you
know, get your money up, youknow like get that shit the
legit way bro.
Yeah, bro, I'm not trying toGet yourself an LLC, yeah.

Speaker 2 (33:00):
You right, larry June , yeah, let me call Newman right
now.

Speaker 4 (33:03):
Yep, stop chasing the hoes Focus.
You right, larry June.
Yeah, let me call Newman rightnow.
Yup, stop chasing the hoes,focus on the money.
You right, larry June, larryJune, just be about the business
, bro.

Speaker 5 (33:10):
Nah bro, I like Larry .

Speaker 2 (33:11):
June, bro, he's a good rapper.
Oh man, larry, june's a reallygood rapper.
Yup, that's what I'm like.

Speaker 4 (33:22):
Honestly, I do be enjoying, because you know what,
uh, larry june's one of themniggas.

Speaker 2 (33:27):
He just knows.
He just knows what his lane is.
Bro, yeah, he's gonna stay init.
Yeah, I honestly respect it.
I really do respect it.
That's something.
I can't be mad at it, um, butyeah, honestly, man, I do, I do
like the wrestler.
I just wanna I don't know shouthim out.
That is just all right, bro.
He's a very creative artist.
That's just pretty dope.

Speaker 4 (33:42):
He's very creative bro.
I feel like all his songs thatI listen to, bro.
It honestly always feelsrefreshing yeah, they're good
songs like something new.
You know, they're always catchyyep you know, without being
horny yeah, it's just like allright, bro, and the thing is,
it's not like anythingdegenerate either, though you
know what I mean and he's andnow I can go through me stay
real, authentic to himself.

Speaker 2 (34:02):
He real bay area, real Bay Area.

Speaker 4 (34:03):
With it I'll be like seeing what I've seen and that's
what I like too, bro you reallyget that Bay Area feel when you
listen to him, bro.

Speaker 2 (34:10):
I saw he had the ballpark for the Giants and that
was dope man To see.
I know MLB don't reallyincorporate hip hop too much,
yeah, but I guess now they'reprobably starting to try more.
I actually didn't want to askyou about that, bro, what's up?
Because I was actually lookingat this right, Because I was
like you know what?
I saw the Russell at the MLBgame.

(34:30):
Then I played a little demoright of MLB and I was like,
okay, it's a cool little game.
They had their song selection.
Let's see if I can find it.
I probably can't find it.
God damn it.
Ah, fuck it how's it going?

(34:54):
oh, here you go, yeah it won'tbe the show, bro.
Look at this they got.
They got Kendrick All Right,vince Staples got Lil Wayne.
Just some of the songs they hadin there were hilarious.
They got Kendrick Lamarreincarnated.
They got Black Thought.

(35:16):
They got De La Soul and I wasjust laughing.
I was like MLB just showed ussome really black.
They got Lupin Fiasco.
They just have some really likeblack hip hop.

Speaker 4 (35:25):
I was just very surprised that they were on that
, yeah it's so interesting tosee that, bro, because I'll be
on tiktok and um, I'll be onlike a niche part of tiktok
sometimes where it's like peopleplaying like old school, like
early 2000s uh, video games sothey'll be playing like tony
hawk or like madden and shitlike that.

Speaker 5 (35:42):
That's pretty cool, and when you listen to the
soundtracks, bro.

Speaker 4 (35:45):
It's nothing but just that like alternative rock and
roll from that like green dayyou know, nickelback.
Yeah, fucking lincoln park,blink 182 type of shit.
You know it's a very like, andthen you might have had like one
or two rap songs yeah, maybethey stuck to it, you know what
I mean.
So it's interesting to see howthat's just completely flipped
now, yeah, bro, and it's justall hip hop and it's like now we

(36:07):
might throw you one rock songin there.
Exactly, or a country song, thatkind of bumps Like now you get
like three alternatives.

Speaker 2 (36:12):
Yeah, you know it's mostly hip hop now yeah.
And I guess it does just showlike the consumption, like where
hip Like.

Speaker 4 (36:21):
Is that okay?
I guess what I'm saying is likedifferent forms of
entertainment, like video gamesand movies, when they start
using like hip-hop as theprimary source for like their
soundtracks and everything isthat kind of like saying that
hip-hop is like the primarywhat's the word I'm looking for?

(36:44):
Like the primary musical forcein America now, yeah, bro, you
know what I mean Like it's nolonger.
Rock and roll is like theprimary musical export.

Speaker 2 (36:53):
I guess is what.

Speaker 4 (36:54):
I'm thinking of now.

Speaker 2 (36:56):
I think so.
I think you know, sometimespeople, oh, hip hop's dying.
I don't think it's dying, it'slike you said, I think it's in a
weird space.
I do think hip hop's like themost consumed like music, like
obviously people have like popand like you know, sabrina
Carpenter and Taylor Swift andshit, but outside of those like
pop, pop, pop, it's like it'sall hip hop.
It's like it's like hip hop andit's like you got Post Malone

(37:18):
right now, who's like hip-hopcountry now, but hip-hop but
country and it's like I don'tknow.
I think everyone kind of likestem from hip-hop.
Now.

Speaker 4 (37:30):
I think it's kind of like the number one.
They use hip-hop as a steppingstone.
Yeah, yeah, and it's kind oflike I don't know.

Speaker 2 (37:33):
Everyone does it now, from Justin Timberlake, from
the OG from early days to thenew guys.
Now it's even bigger now, yeah,but it's also different, though
.
Like you said, it's a differentplace, but it's still the
number one consumed.
I think now it's just shortconsumption, like now you like a
guy for two months and now youlike the next guy.

(37:53):
Yeah, it's more like cause,like I do want to ask you but do
you think there's like causefor me and you are working at
older dog, older dog.
We're not that much old, we'restill in our 20s, we're not that
much older, but it's just funny.
We just do see stuff likeprogress.
I want to ask you is, um, I knowit's a long hip-hop talk, but
you know we love music.
Yeah, is there a superstar inhip-hop right now?

(38:14):
Like, is there a superstar inhip-hop?
Yeah, yeah, I'm not trying toname like little wayne the drake
, the jay-z, like nah, nah, nah.
Like you know what I mean.
Like, yeah, like a new era,like like, do we have a
superstar or is it I?
I want to ask you are thesuperstars done?

Speaker 4 (38:29):
yeah, I don't think there are any.
Kendrick lamar, you know,that's like yeah, yeah, that's
it.

Speaker 2 (38:35):
I feel like even he's kind of cut from that little
cloth a little bit you know, butas far as like new era, like
superstars, because, honestly,in my mind, kendrick's almost
transcended.
Well, kendrick got two morealbums, but kendrick's like he's
almost hitting that.
Yeah, he's almost entering thatera where it's like I don't
know yeah, no, honestly, I thinkwe're.

Speaker 4 (38:59):
I don't think we'll ever be able to go back to that
era of like having a superstarlike it's just like it's called
drake kendrick, the lastsuperstar yeah, because I feel
like the state of music rightnow.
It is so just like based off ofconsumption okay you know, and
um, just even nowadays, to evenlike make it big in music, you

(39:20):
constantly have to put out a lotof music, you know yeah so in
putting out a lot of music itkind of takes away from just
like the overall value of it.
You know what I mean and justhow long we're able to like sit
with it, enjoy it.
You know, because back in theday like the biggest thing now
is, too, is like we're expectingartists to put out albums, like

(39:41):
you know, more than once a year, you know, every year, back in
the day, bro, a group will putout an album and bro not put out
albums, like you know, morethan once a year.
You know every year back in theday bro a group will put out an
album and bro not put outanother one for like two, three
years.

Speaker 2 (39:50):
Yeah he's got.
He's got a mixtape, yeah, youknow, and it's just again.

Speaker 4 (39:53):
They would spend that time touring you know, do
something else and then workingon a whole another project after
that I find that's the problemnow.

Speaker 2 (40:00):
Now you they give you .
It's either you give us a lotof music or you give us an album
and you wait five years becauseyou're doing shit on the side.
That's nothing to do with music.

Speaker 4 (40:10):
Yeah, and then again too, though Us as just like
consumers, though like we expector we get bored of things very
quick.

Speaker 1 (40:21):
So what.

Speaker 4 (40:21):
I've been trying to do lately too, because I feel
like myself doing this.
I've been trying not to justhave music on in the background
just to fill up.
You know the time.

Speaker 2 (40:31):
You want to listen to it?

Speaker 4 (40:32):
Yeah, you know because you know people just put
on music just to kind of justyou know, just to have something
on just like yeah, and I kindof want to stay away from that
too, because it really does takeaway from the fact that this is
art that we're listening to youknow what I mean and it really,
when you sit there and you justtake it for granted, like that
again, I feel like you justcontribute to um, or you

(40:54):
incentivize people to make likemore meaningless art, you know,
like it's something that doesdeserve our attention, is
something we should be focusedin on when we do decide to play
music, you know what I mean itshould be less of like something
to just fill the time or fillthe background and more of
something that we actively putour attention to and think about

(41:17):
from like a a real artisticstandpoint you know,

Speaker 2 (41:20):
because there's deep conversations that can be had
Like put their like heart andsoul, you know yeah.

Speaker 4 (41:25):
People put a lot of time into it and, again, a lot
of that deserves for us todissect it and deeply analyze it
.
You know that is very true.

Speaker 2 (41:35):
I mean that's kind of make it sad too.
Yeah it, you know, that is verytrue.

Speaker 4 (41:39):
I mean that's kind of make it sad too.
Yeah, because again, it isserious too, because the things
that we consume are thatimportant, is that deep bro
whenever we're listening tomusic or we're watching movies
and stuff.
It is that deep, it's neverjust a show and it's never just
music, bro, as long.

Speaker 2 (41:55):
It's always like a hidden message too.

Speaker 4 (41:57):
Yeah, and maybe not even a hidden message.
There's a hidden incentive onthe other side.
What is the person who ismaking this product trying to
accomplish in the end?
You?

Speaker 3 (42:08):
know what.

Speaker 4 (42:09):
I mean, what do they want out of making this product?

Speaker 1 (42:12):
You know, what I mean .

Speaker 4 (42:13):
Yes, exactly Because all art.
There's a purpose behind artbeing created.
Art is never made just forart's sake.
There's always some type ofdeeper purpose behind art being
created.
You know what I mean, Like howyou feel or something yeah
exactly, or there's deepersocietal structures at play,

(42:35):
like I'll bring this up, forexample, right so um a lot of
like art that we deem as likeafrican art or something, right.
So people go and they'll take avacation to, like, west africa
right, and they'll be like, yeah, you know, I got some art from
there, right.
A lot of that isn't authenticwest african art.
And when I say it's notauthentic, it was made by west

(42:58):
africans, right, but they makeit for the sole purpose of
selling it to somebody else.
It's not art that they make forself-expression it's art that
they make for for, uh, for justmonetary purposes only you know
what I?
mean yeah, exactly so when youthink about the original purpose
of like art, when we think,yeah, the trick of Taurus,

(43:20):
thinking about like rugsblankets vases you know, uh,
carpets tables, you know shitlike that is art yeah

(43:42):
handcrafted shit.
That's art right there right,and all that stuff has a very
functional purpose in societyyou know what I mean, like think
about back in the day when youI'm just thinking about, like
roman art now so like a romanvase or something.

Speaker 2 (43:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (43:57):
All that has a functional purpose.
You know whether it's likecarrying water or stuff like
that.
Yes, and when I think aboutthat now too, it's making me
think about how now wesubstitute like meaningful forms
of decoration for the purposeof advertisement.
Now, so, think about back thentoo.

(44:19):
They would probably decoratelike a pot that holds water
right.
And instead of us decoratingstuff that holds water in.
It's simply just a place for usto put labels and advertising.
So it takes away from theoverall.
I mean the labels and theadvertising are still art.
But when you take a deeper stepand ask what's the purpose of?

(44:41):
I mean, the labels and theadvertising are still art, but
when you take a deeper step andask what's the purpose of this
art?
it's to sell you something.
It's lost of its actual, like,functionality, you know, and
it's usefulness.

Speaker 2 (44:53):
You know, hey, I knew I'm going to cook y'all up
right now, and that's true.
Though I do this thing aboutpaintings, I pop the top of the
head, but art is different now.

Speaker 4 (45:01):
Yeah, but that's not even the only form of it, and
even then too, paintings had apurpose in society as well back
then.
You know what I mean Tellstories.
The thing was, and even beyond,that paintings back in the day
used to be a reflection ofwealth.
Because, again, not to be areflection of wealth?
Because, again, not everybodycould afford to to get

(45:22):
themselves painted.
So whenever you see them oldschool, like rich white dudes
back in the day with like theself-portraits, that's an
expression of wealth.
That's them trying to flaunttheir wealth to other people,
because not everybody can affordsomebody to come over there and
paint you bro like again, andwe don't think about that
because we're just so used toquick consumption.
We don't think about the actualtime that's invested or the

(45:43):
level of intimacy that'srequired to to make all these
things.
You know yeah damn.
Yeah, you know, it's justsomething we just look at it
we're like, oh, that's sweet broyeah and it's just like all
right, or a light.
Like I remember, tyler thecreator said something one time
about putting out an album.
He said this on one of hissongs and niggas could critique

(46:04):
in his album while theylistening to it on their lunch
break.
And it's like there there's adeeper, there's a deeper message
he's getting across.
You know, he's really getting adeeper message across, bro nigga
sure I said, album suck yeah,you know, niggas telling you the
album sucks, bro, and they outhere listening to it on their
lunch break, bro, to try to passthe time niggas can't even make

(46:25):
art yeah, you know, they'resimply doing it for uh like in a
, in a consumptive type of way,bro they're not doing it.

Speaker 2 (46:33):
I've been trying to enjoy it yeah yeah, that makes
sense, bro, that do make sense.

Speaker 4 (46:40):
Long story short.
It is that serious bro.

Speaker 2 (46:44):
That do make sense, though I'm like damn Freaking.
Knew it, Knew we painted.

Speaker 4 (46:54):
Nah, because you know I'm still going to go on a rant
right now, that's why I feellike it's really important too,
too, bro, that everybody hassome type of like creative hobby
that they do specifically justfor themselves yeah, all right
like, because I feel like, yeah,it's such a problem nowadays
too, with everybody like it'salready hard enough to have
hobbies now.

(47:14):
But when people do have a hobby, it's always their first
thought is how do I try tomonetize my?

Speaker 2 (47:18):
hobby instead of just having.

Speaker 4 (47:20):
Yeah instead of just enjoying something for the sake
of enjoying it.

Speaker 2 (47:23):
It's like well, I've seen little johnny make money
off his hobby, and it's like,and I feel like that's gotta be
like that's a, that's areflection of society.

Speaker 4 (47:32):
Yeah, yeah of cultural things right now and
again when you, because it isthat deep too, bro.
The fact that people have tospend time trying to monetize
their hobbies is a reflection ofhow the things going on in our
society are not enough tosustain us.
People have to monetize hobbiesbecause what's going on at work

(47:52):
isn't enough to support them intheir everyday life, just go to
work.

Speaker 2 (47:55):
You know what I mean?
Yeah, exactly, it's like damn,I need a.
I mean yeah exactly.

Speaker 4 (48:00):
So now we're trying to incorporate making money now
while participating in some typeof leisurely activity you know
what I mean.
We're trying to cut it and Ifeel like it's such a that's
such a dangerous space to be in.
Right there, bro, I'm trying tomonetize fun you know what?
I mean really trying tomonetize, you know, anything

(48:21):
that we do for simple, forsimple enjoyment, and trying to
make it seem like if we're notmaking money out of it then it's
just a waste oh, I can't do ityeah then it's like we're
wasting our time?

Speaker 2 (48:31):
why should I?
Why should I draw?
Why should I paint?
Or why should I tell jokes?
Why should I do that?
And it's like bro, bro, if youenjoy, like I don't know, you
should do that.

Speaker 4 (48:38):
Cause you like to do it.
You know what I mean and that'swhat your spirit wants you to
do.

Speaker 2 (48:43):
But now I do find these younger kids don't feel
like that.

Speaker 4 (48:45):
Yeah, it's all about.

Speaker 2 (48:46):
I do find that.
How can I make a play?

Speaker 4 (48:53):
And again, too, that's still a societal failure,
bro, when you got again.
Because, dude, I remembergrowing up, bro.
I remember growing up and Iwent to a white elementary
school, bro, and I rememberhearing these white boys when
they talked about, like, whatyour parents did for work, bro,
I remember hearing them say themost craziest like random stuff.
Yeah, you know, like some shityou really needed a degree in

(49:14):
bro.
Nowadays, bro, when you talk tosome of these white boys, bro,
they're talking about having aside hustle, bro.
Again, it's such a cult.
It's such a shock to me, bro,because I remember growing up
I'd never heard a white boy talk.
I've never heard a white boysay hustle before.

Speaker 2 (49:31):
You know what I mean, I've never heard a white boy
say hustle before you're so nowwhite boys is making content.

Speaker 4 (49:37):
Talk about get yourself a side hustle.
A side hustle, a side hustlesis for niggas, bro.
Side hustles is a, is a, is a,is a people of color thing.
People of color had sidehustles because they're getting
discriminated against ineveryday society, so they have
to.

Speaker 2 (49:54):
They have to get a side hustle.
You should have side hustlesfor niggas.
You know what?

Speaker 4 (49:58):
I, bro, Because you got white boys talking about
side hustles, bro.
It's nasty.
I done seen a white boy in adicky suit and I seen white boys
talking about side hustles.
Now, nigga, bro, it's nastytimes we're living in when white
boys is wearing dicky suits andtalking about side hustles,
nigga Come on, bro.
Seen a white boy in a Ben Davisnigga.
Come on, bro.
What are we talking about, dude?

(50:20):
What happened to the Carhartt?
What happened to the Carhartt?

Speaker 2 (50:27):
bro.
Oh my gosh, that's crazy, holyshit.
Oh man, nah, you ain't lying,though I do be seeing that shit
on my reels.
Yeah, white boy talking about aside hustle.
Here's five side hustles we cando to get you money.
A side hustle Cause you knowwhat it was before too.

Speaker 4 (50:49):
I remember when white boys just used to be
entrepreneurs.

Speaker 5 (50:51):
Nigga you know what I mean it wasn't a side hustle.

Speaker 2 (50:56):
It was rent a dead company.

Speaker 1 (51:00):
A side hustle.

Speaker 2 (51:01):
It was random dad company.
A side hustle, bro.
I miss when white boys maderock music.

Speaker 4 (51:06):
Made that shit out the garage nigga and were
plumbers.

Speaker 2 (51:17):
Yup, holy shit, man.
They don't make them like thesetwo, no more.
They don't, bro.
And now we got niggas paintingtheir nails.
Everyone's backwards, everyone.
Everyone's twisted dog.

Speaker 4 (51:27):
Everyone ain't prince dog, everyone ain't rick james
hey, that's slowly the times wegoing back to, though it is dark
every nigga has her nailspainted at this, and you
remember bro, I remember growingup hearing them stories like my
mom would tell me when I'd belike, damn, these dudes dress a
little flamboyant, She'd be likeyeah, but they were tough
though, you know, like theysmack the fuck out of you type
of thing.

Speaker 2 (51:47):
Because now I'm starting to see NFL players 6'4"
, 260 linebackers You're wearinga crop top.
Bro got blue nails.

Speaker 4 (51:55):
I'm like yo he's got a crop top with his nails
painted.

Speaker 2 (51:58):
I know.
And then I'm like oh okay,something must.
Then I look, you got a wife andkids family.
I'm like what's going on here?
He go to church every Sunday.
I'm like what the fuck dude?
What's going on here, man?
Either he's lying to us orsomething.
Nope, he just, he just.

Speaker 4 (52:15):
Nah, the only thing they have, right though bro Dude
, I'm, I hope, I feel like westarting to go back to the era,
though, of of long, long shorts.
I appreciate it how we, we, we,we left that time and niggas
was going to the, you know, thehoochie daddy shorts you know,
but now I feel like niggas istrying to go back to the long

(52:36):
the Jordan's long ones, yeah Nyou know.

Speaker 2 (52:38):
But now I feel like niggas is trying to go back to
the long the jordan's long ones,bro.
I was cool with the six inchinseam bro I was cool with that
niggas going back to 12 inchesyeah, I don't need this shit
going past the knee, bro, Idon't need to pass the knee bro,
I like the john cenas.
They stop right there.
Yep, I go any lower than.
That's gross, you ain.

Speaker 4 (52:56):
You ain't lying bro, it's coming back bro.

Speaker 2 (52:57):
They gotta stop.
They need to get on.
I don't know.
Fashion's all over the placeall the time.

Speaker 1 (53:03):
They need to stop.

Speaker 2 (53:04):
They need to get a hold of themselves.
Alright, they need to get ahold of themselves, man.
It's all good, though, manFreaking.
Keep a little, push in bro.
Let's go to sports a little bitbro.

Speaker 4 (53:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (53:21):
I got to ask you, bro , you see any NBA playoff games
yet?

Speaker 4 (53:26):
Yeah, so I peeped that Nuggets game yesterday.
What was it?
Nuggets Clippers.
Nuggets, clippers, yeah, I alsopeeped the Pistons and the
Knicks.
Yeah, that was a good gameBecause you know I've been
peeping it now too, because I'mglad for the playoffs.
They got a lot of that shit onMax.

Speaker 3 (53:42):
So I don't got to go and try to.

Speaker 2 (53:43):
Hunt it down.

Speaker 4 (53:44):
Yeah, you know, it's just all on Max.
So that's cool, man.
I've been able to watch somegood basketball, bro.
It's very interesting seeingthe Pistons pistons, bro turn
that shit around pistons lookgood.

Speaker 2 (53:56):
Lakers lost game one, but yeah, I mean how many times
the team gonna shoot 52 forthree, you know?

Speaker 4 (54:01):
what a side note though, bro again, man, I'm so
glad I'm always bro.
We always on the right side ofhistory.
Bro, what happened?
I told you that nigga anthonydavis was the most injury oh,
yeah, ever bro bro, I've beensaying it bro, I'm glad, I'm
glad we had it on wax.

Speaker 2 (54:18):
I said it bro I said it first.

Speaker 4 (54:22):
God bro, getting rid of him was bro it was good bro.
It was good man because bro,can you believe if niggas got
rid of braun and kept ad that?

Speaker 2 (54:32):
would have been so soon.
You know, yeah, man ad f a bad,but bro.

Speaker 4 (54:38):
this is I don't bro.
It's been happening for like 10years now, bro.

Speaker 2 (54:43):
It has been like 10 years.
But hey, honestly, shout out toAD man, you got us Luca, so you
got us a ring.
Shout out to AD, bro, that's awin-win, bro.

Speaker 4 (54:53):
You really did sneak that ring in there, bro.

Speaker 2 (54:59):
He came back healthy because the covet, so he got
three months to rest.

Speaker 4 (55:00):
It's interesting too, bro, because it's like how do
you rank ad with other?
Power forwards all time, bro?
Because I know, bro, I I'll beonline sometimes and niggas
talking about ad's like bro, top10, power forwards all time,
and I'm like top 10, he's top 10, top 10, bro, top 10 power
forwards all the time, and I'mlike top 10?

(55:21):
He's top 10.
Top 10?
Yeah, he's top 10.
Y'all are bugging, bro.
No, we're not, y'all arebugging, he's top 10, bro?

Speaker 5 (55:24):
No, I don't think so.

Speaker 2 (55:25):
But he got like what two people's player of the year
awards?
No, he doesn't.

Speaker 4 (55:31):
He never actually won .
I don't think he has any, bro,never mind, I don't think he has
any, unless I'm thinking he gotsome in New Orleans.
That's what I'm thinking.

Speaker 3 (55:42):
Was it New Orleans?
Maybe it was New Orleans.

Speaker 2 (55:43):
He never got one in New Orleans, maybe it was you
know what.

Speaker 4 (55:45):
If he got some in New Orleans, my bad.
Maybe I really just slept onhow?

Speaker 2 (55:52):
No, actually I don't think he got it.
Yeah, you're right, he nevergot it.

Speaker 4 (55:55):
I think he might have been like the rebounder blocks
leader.

Speaker 2 (55:59):
He was all defense first team.
Yeah, you're right.
Okay, he's top 10 power forward.
I don't got him top 10.

Speaker 4 (56:07):
There's way too many niggas.
I got over him bro.

Speaker 2 (56:11):
No, you don't, You're just saying that, bro.

Speaker 3 (56:14):
I'm not.

Speaker 2 (56:15):
Yes, you are, I'm being for reals.

Speaker 4 (56:20):
You just don't like him, nah cause the thing is, I
do like him.
I just don't think he's top 10cause if we being for reals, bro
, I got a nigga like I got ChrisBosh over AD I got.

Speaker 3 (56:27):
Chris Bosh over AD.

Speaker 4 (56:29):
I got Timberwolves K-Love bro.
If we being honest, bro, alltime I got Draymond over AD, bro
, draymond is more impactful.
You did not say no he no he is,he's more impactful and
contributes more to winning thanad ever has no, that's newman,

(56:51):
stop no I'm and I'm being deadass bro, I'll die on that hill I
dieon that hill I got draymond
draymond, unlike ad, really dogot some defensive player of the
year awards all right, hereally do.
Got some defensive player ofthe year awards Most unselfish
nigga.
If we being for reals, broWarriors aren't a dynasty
without Draymond bro.
No, you're right, but stop.

(57:12):
I got Draymond, bro.
I got Draymond.
That's why I'm like there's noway, he's top 10 Draymond.
And it's all because I feellike people Only put him top 10
too Because he got that Sneakybubble ring.
Cause, if he doesn't have thebubble ring, it's not even about
the ring.

Speaker 2 (57:25):
It's about his stats, bro.
He put up mad numbers.
Eh, mad numbers don't meannothing, bro.

Speaker 4 (57:30):
That's the same thing , that's how I'm saying, but
that's what these new niggasthink James Harden is better
than Rachel Miller.

Speaker 2 (57:41):
Okay, he's better than Ray Allen.

Speaker 4 (57:43):
Okay, okay, I'll give him that.

Speaker 2 (57:45):
James Harden is probably like five.
He's probably like five for me.

Speaker 4 (57:50):
Niggas got James Harden at two.
Nah, they got at Michael Jordan, james Harden.

Speaker 2 (57:57):
Nah, I can't do that.

Speaker 4 (57:59):
Bro, because then it gets even nastier.

Speaker 2 (58:01):
They got him over Wade and Kobe.

Speaker 4 (58:02):
Bro, do you got James Harden over Iverson?
Because niggas got James Hardenover Iverson, and that's what
I'm saying.
I'm like James Harden's noteven better than AI.
He is not.

Speaker 2 (58:15):
No.

Speaker 4 (58:16):
He is not necessary for not Necessary, for winning.
They don't even play the same.
They got him over AI.

Speaker 2 (58:24):
Yeah, I guess technically In stats, but I mean
, that doesn't mean anything.
I got AI over him, though.
I got AI over Harden and that'show I feel about AD.

Speaker 4 (58:33):
Like you, could have a stats, bro, I don't think
you're better than Any of theseguys who play.

Speaker 2 (58:39):
I truly do think AD AD's up there, bro.
I can't lie, he's top 10 cause,honestly, if I name my top 10,
there's no way he's in therename it right now alright,
alright, dunkey, tim Duncan.

Speaker 4 (58:55):
KG K of course Dirk of Of course Carl.

Speaker 2 (58:59):
Malone, the pedophile , of course, okay.

Speaker 4 (59:02):
Charles Barkley, charles Barkley, I'm going to
put Giannis in there.

Speaker 2 (59:06):
Oh, you got to put Giannis in there.

Speaker 4 (59:08):
I got Giannis in there, draymond.

Speaker 2 (59:11):
Yep.

Speaker 4 (59:13):
Now, this is where I feel like I might be missing a
few right now Hang on, hang on,you know I even got Chris Bosh.

Speaker 2 (59:25):
I'll pull up Chris Bosh K-Love.
Oh, do you?

Speaker 4 (59:27):
put Dennis Rodman in there, and you see, that's what
I'm talking about, bro, whenwe're really talking about who
is more necessary for winningOkay okay, okay, okay, yeah,
okay, okay, okay.

Speaker 2 (59:37):
You kind of make a point.

Speaker 4 (59:38):
Yeah, I'll take the nigga who.
You know what.
Maybe he was averaging twopoints a game, but he was also
averaging 19 rebounds a game,you make a point, newt, you make
a point 19 rebounds.
A game locking down Shaq.

Speaker 2 (59:49):
And you know I'm biased.

Speaker 4 (59:54):
You know, there's something we ain't mentioned.

Speaker 2 (59:57):
I think I do, and you know, I'm not even like the
craziest Pau Gasol fan.

Speaker 4 (01:00:00):
Yeah, yeah, exactly but I think I might have Pau
Gasol, I might take Pau Pau atheart.

Speaker 2 (01:00:05):
Yes, kobe's punching that nigga dead in the chest,
bro.
He has way more durability andlongevity than AD bro, I might
Pau at heart, bro, I can't lieand that matters, bro, I might
take Powell over AD.

Speaker 4 (01:00:15):
That matters.
I'd much rather take 18 yearsof Powell Gasol being solid than
five seasons of AD being elite,okay, he might be.

Speaker 2 (01:00:27):
That's a tough one AD top 10.
Ad's not top 10, bro, he mightbe bro.

Speaker 4 (01:00:34):
He's not top five, he's not top eight, not even
close Because, honestly, if he'stop 10, he's like nine or ten,
yeah, he's fighting for thatninth, or tenth spot right there
.

Speaker 2 (01:00:42):
Because it depends who you ask.
If you ask the OG, they mightthrow him, like Kevin McHale
there.

Speaker 5 (01:00:47):
So it's like eh, Now you start getting nasty.
Nigga Moses Malone.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:00:58):
Like okay, Just a big with some rings, Like that's an
OG.
He gets a little tough, yeah,Because then too, like what do
you consider a nigga like DavidRobinson too, bro, you know what
I mean.
A nigga who?
Borders on like power forwardcenter type of deal.

Speaker 2 (01:01:06):
Yeah center, center, I'll go him center, I'm going to
go him center.
Well, that's just kind of tough.
Yeah, I don't know, man, I hopeLeBron gets it done, though I
know it's the playoffs right now.
The Lakers man I know we gotrid of AD.
I know I know Luke doesn't playa lot of defense, but, yeah,
game 1 wasn't the best game.

(01:01:26):
By the time this comes outtomorrow, game 2 will be done.
So either we're down 0-2, whichI don't think is going to
happen I think it'll be 1-1tomorrow morning when you wake
up and you guys listen to thisone one, but I don't know.
I think we think brian ad getsdone tonight or ad brown.
Look at me reminiscing brown,look good done tonight?

Speaker 4 (01:01:43):
I don't know, bro, honestly are.

Speaker 2 (01:01:47):
Do you think?
You think?

Speaker 4 (01:01:48):
I think we we bounce out and we need to rebuild in
the summer and get some realpieces because I got the Dude,
because it's one of those things, too, to where I feel like the
Lakers can be competitive ifthey're playing an opponent who
isn't 100% healthy bro.
Yeah exactly, and that's thesame thing with the Warriors as

(01:02:10):
well.
I can see the Warriors making adeep run if they're playing a
team that's not at 100% capacity.
Yeah, because.

Speaker 2 (01:02:16):
Well, now the Warriors got the young bucks, so
they're actually a team that'snot at 100% capacity.

Speaker 4 (01:02:19):
Yeah, because Well, now the Warriors got the young
bucks, so they're actually doingpretty good with the young
bucks over there, but then theyalso got nigga playoff, Jimmy
you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:02:25):
I think that's what's pushing them over the hump.
They got playoff Jimmy and theRockets got a star Rockets, a
bunch of young cats.

Speaker 4 (01:02:30):
But yeah, and so back to the lakers.
It's tough, um, yeah, I thinkthey might get, I don't know
especially against the wolves.
So I feel like the wolves are atough team.
I feel like, um, they, they hada very deep playoff run last
year so they're seasoned yeah,they're more seasoned, it's not.
Uh, there's no, bro.

(01:02:51):
There's no easy, easy opponentsin the west, bro, no there's
not, you know.
And the lakers, if they'veshown me anything, they're
really good at not winning thegames that they're supposed to
win.

Speaker 2 (01:03:01):
Yeah, they play down a lot, you know, that's one
thing I've noticed about theLakers they play down a lot.

Speaker 4 (01:03:05):
So we'll see.
So we'll see.
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:03:13):
I don't know if I'm not going to believe in them.
O2 at home is crazy.
You can pack them up.
You can pack them up.
It's like you said, it's stillearly.
I like the K Knicks Detroit.
I like that series.
K balling Sean he here.
I do like that series a lot.

Speaker 4 (01:03:29):
That's interesting.
I feel like this playoff ingeneral, bro, we're going to
start seeing a lot of these likeyounger cats, make a name for
themselves.

Speaker 2 (01:03:38):
Yeah, man, I think it's that time.
So I'm interested to see whomakes it to the next round.
Uh-huh, because it could beshit.
K, it could be Luka.
Yeah, ant-man back up in themix, and you also got them young
boys, the Rockets.
There's a bunch of Young stars.

Speaker 4 (01:03:53):
I don't think the Rockets are serious, though I
feel like they have a reallysolid squad.

Speaker 2 (01:03:59):
Really good team, though I feel like 1 through 7,
really good team.

Speaker 4 (01:04:02):
Jalen Green just again.
Some of the people who theyhave a primary investment in bro
is not completely in basketball.

Speaker 2 (01:04:10):
He's not a superstar either.

Speaker 4 (01:04:11):
Yeah, jalen Green's out here.
It's all about the IG, hoes.

Speaker 2 (01:04:15):
No, he's married, bro , he here.
You know, it's all about the ighoes and no, he's married, bro.
He just happens to be marriedto someone who has a 22 year old
son.
Like I said, bro, he justmarried.
He just married to an ig vet.
He's, or not, on the ig.

Speaker 4 (01:04:30):
So the woman he's married to her son is like two
years younger than him.

Speaker 2 (01:04:35):
No, they're the same as like age okay, exactly so her
.

Speaker 4 (01:04:38):
Her son is his homie.

Speaker 2 (01:04:39):
Yeah, okay, and now she has a son with him or a
daughter or whatever.

Speaker 4 (01:04:42):
Like I said, bro, it's not serious with these
niggas, bro, he be distractedsometimes.
These niggas are not seriousbro.

Speaker 2 (01:04:51):
That is sick, though.
I can't even lie.

Speaker 4 (01:04:53):
They need some better vets in the locker room.

Speaker 2 (01:04:55):
Yeah, I don't think old Dylan Brooks is cutting it.
Dylan Brooks, I don't thinkthat's a good vet to have.
You need a little more thanthat.
Yeah, the playoffs is coming,man.
I don't know.
It's interesting.
Probably, the more deeper itgets, the more I watch, the more
.
Yeah, I think it's interesting.
Right now, though, I do thinkit's interesting.
Stay on sports, man, did yousee UFC 2?

(01:05:16):
Was it 314?
Yeah man, last week how'd youfeel, man Dude?
I caught some of those fights,bro.
It was good.
It was good, bro, it was a goodcard.

Speaker 4 (01:05:24):
Man, I feel like Dana needed a card like that bro
he's been on some, you know, onjust a bad streak of just some
shitty cards.
Bro.
That was very true, some, somevery shitty cards.
Man, I thought it was good umsome surprises in there, bro you
know um man I'm gonna say rightnow bro, I was wrong about
patty, not gonna lie I reallythought yeah, I thought patty,

(01:05:45):
bro.
I thought I thought he wasn'tgonna be locked in.
You know, I he was serious.
Not only am I surprised thatpatty won, I'm surprised he like
dogged walk, fucking michaelchandler the way he won yeah
that's what it is too like.
I thought too, if there was asplit chance, patty would win.
It'd be like a dog fight, yeahyeah you know what I mean?

Speaker 5 (01:06:07):
I think it's gonna be , that bro he's straight, bro.

Speaker 4 (01:06:09):
He had michael chandler looking like a scrub he
was looking at beckon for life.

Speaker 2 (01:06:13):
He just bled all over yeah, probably dropping elbows
yeah, I was.

Speaker 4 (01:06:18):
I was thoroughly impressed with Patty.
Bro, I was completely wrong.
His next fight is going to beinteresting.
Yeah, who are they setting himup with next?

Speaker 2 (01:06:25):
There's all types.
There's talks of Armand.
There's talks of Gaethje.
I think Armand's a good one.
There's talks of Dustin.
Yeah, I don't want that beingDustin's retirement fight,
because what do you do if Dustinwins?
Yeah, you try to get him, but Idon't know.

Speaker 4 (01:06:43):
No, I think Patty versus Armand is a good one.
You give him somebody who'salso not serious.

Speaker 2 (01:06:47):
The other one is Charles.

Speaker 4 (01:06:49):
No, I don't want to give him Charles, I feel because
Armand has to prove that he hasthe discipline to even compete
for the belt again after thatfucking bullshit.
He was on, bro.
He has to go and he has to takeanother part what if?

Speaker 2 (01:07:08):
Ilya fights for the belt, then who's Charles going
to fight?
Charles might need an opponent.

Speaker 4 (01:07:14):
Charles rest, bro.
There's going to be anotheropponent bro.
Yeah, you're right, I don'tknow.
I hate that the division's soclogged up right now, though.
Opponent charles rest bro.
There's gonna be anotheropponent bro.

Speaker 2 (01:07:17):
Yeah, you're right, you're right, no I don't know I
hate that the division's so um,clogged up right now though.
Yeah, because now what gaethjewent into her?
Dana said gaethje might be upfor the boat he's not and he's
not.

Speaker 4 (01:07:29):
It's so clogged.
No, he's not.
I mean again dana.
I know dana likes having anigga like gaethje in the tuck,
because you can have him comelike show up, you know much
notice.

Speaker 2 (01:07:41):
Maybe he knocks out Islam.
Yeah, much notice, and you?

Speaker 4 (01:07:43):
know he's going to go out there and compete and you
know you're going to.
You're going to get someviewers, you know.
So yeah, gaethje is alwaysgoing to be in the talks.
Yeah, you know, because youknow there's no telling who the
fuck's going to fall through.

Speaker 2 (01:07:54):
Especially after a win.

Speaker 4 (01:07:56):
Yeah, but as far as seriously being competitive and
really winning the belt bro.

Speaker 2 (01:08:01):
I don't want to see him fight Islam.
I can't lie I guess I getconfused that technically all
these dudes fought Khabib, soit's just funny when I see him
on the second time around fight.
Islam and I'm like, oh, it'sthe same shit.

Speaker 5 (01:08:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:08:16):
It's his little cousin.

Speaker 4 (01:08:18):
So it the same shit?
Yeah, it's just little cousins,so it's the same thing.
Yeah, and they're not.

Speaker 2 (01:08:21):
They're not beating islam, bro I feel like islam is
better than khabib, bro.
Yeah, he's different, he'sdifferent man.
So yeah, I don't know man, I dofeel kind of bad.
I am excited for, um bro, yousaw, gene silva oh yeah oh yeah,
hell yeah, man fuck he putbryce mitch Mitchell to sleep.

Speaker 4 (01:08:37):
Dude.
Fuck Bryce Mitchell man.
He's such a piece of shit, dude.

Speaker 2 (01:08:40):
Bryce Mitchell got put to sleep.
I don't know.
Bryce Mitchell had some weirdcomments a few months ago at
this point about like.

Speaker 4 (01:08:46):
Bro, it has some fucking pro-Hitler comments bro.

Speaker 2 (01:08:49):
Yeah, yeah he was saying that Hitler was right.
I don't know, it was crazy.
It was crazy.
It seems just very like okay,if it's not white, bryce
Minster's not liking it, yeah,so I'll just have to see him get
his fucking, his neck, chokedup and wrung up a little bit,
because you know it was afterthose comments where I was like,
yeah, when I really thoughtabout it, I was like this is
just a white dude from Missouri,yeah, who am I kidding?

(01:09:13):
Oh, of course.

Speaker 4 (01:09:16):
Like why am I so surprised?

Speaker 2 (01:09:17):
I'm like who am I kidding?
I'm like he has camel shorts.
Who the fuck wants specialcamel shorts man?
A grown-ass man, the fuck, bro.
But hey, you're right.
That's why I thought I'm like alittle suspicious.
You can go hunting.

(01:09:37):
It's all good though, bro.
That made me feel good.
Bro, that was a good one, it'salways good.

Speaker 4 (01:09:41):
It's always good watching a racist white boy get
beat up.

Speaker 2 (01:09:44):
I love to see.
I love to see it.
It's always good.
I love to see it.
What was it?
The co-main Patty won.
His next opponent is going tobe interesting.
Volk came back.
Man Volk came back.
Man Volk vs Diego Lopez.
Volk came back.
Looked good Got lumped up alittle bit but bro Honestly
watching Volk.
He looked good, though.
Yeah, like.

Speaker 4 (01:10:04):
I was really watching him, bro, and I'm really
thinking like Yo Volk Isdefinitely Like top 3 yeah,
volk's good Volk's good Volk isyeah, volk could easily Went in
there.

Speaker 2 (01:10:14):
And I mean he, he got knocked down early in the fight
and he could easily packed itup.
Yeah, he stayed in there, youknow.

Speaker 4 (01:10:19):
So I gotta give him Bro his just fight IQ is just so
different, bro, because again,it's one of those things like
Volk is always the shorter guy,you know, and you could never
tell based off of how thefight's going.
He's always the one putting thepressure on them.
You know what I mean Keepingdistance.
Yeah, and it doesn't matter whohis opponent's been, bro,

(01:10:42):
they've never been able to justcontrol the distance and the
spacing with Volker yeah exactly.
He has such a high IQ with justknowing his spacing and
everything, bro it's like evenhis losses.

Speaker 2 (01:10:51):
He got caught.
It's getting caught with stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:10:53):
Who did he lose, bro?
You lost to ilia taporia andislam.

Speaker 2 (01:10:57):
Yeah, exactly like like two killers.
So I'm like come on, dude, youknow voight naal volk's
definitely like top, all-timefeatherweight goat.
Yeah, like it's.
Yeah, he's up there so it was.
It was very impressive I'mexcited to see who he defends.

Speaker 4 (01:11:13):
It was a yeah it was a really good fight, bro.
I'm really glad to see thatthere's a second defensive.

Speaker 2 (01:11:18):
Yeah it was a really good fight, bro.

Speaker 4 (01:11:19):
I'm really glad to see that there's a second.
There's a second reign of voltcoming, coming around so he
might fight yair again.

Speaker 2 (01:11:22):
That'll be interesting.
I want to see that yair lookgood.

Speaker 4 (01:11:24):
I want to see that because I feel like since
deporia is out of here, bro,yeah it's why I feel like, bro,
who right back?

Speaker 2 (01:11:29):
who's gonna stop?
Yeah, run it back, then let'ssee who's gonna stop him?
so I'm excited, man, you know?
Um, I want to.
Did you see the announcementthat was made with Dana?
What's up?
Amanda Nunez is going to comeback and get the winner of Kayla
Harrison and Julia Pena.
Who?
Amanda Nunez, she's going tocome back and get the winner of
Kayla Harrison and Julia Pena.

(01:11:50):
Dude, I knew this super fightwas coming.
It's not even a super fight,bro, it's because old girl came
from PFL.
They're just trying to set upfor her to win.

Speaker 4 (01:12:03):
Bro, they got to stop trying to sell us on these old
stars bro, because again now,whenever I hear Amanda Nunez bro
, it almost gives me the samefeeling when I hear Tony
Ferguson.

Speaker 1 (01:12:16):
Don't try to sell me on Tony Ferguson, nigga, don't
try to sell me on Tony Ferguson,nigga.

Speaker 4 (01:12:19):
Don't try to sell me on the Jose Aldo, all right.
Don't try to sell me on the oldheads all right and the
nostalgia.
All right, I don't care.

Speaker 2 (01:12:25):
Bro, I'm off the Conor train.
Yeah, don't try to sell me on.

Speaker 4 (01:12:28):
Ooh, Conor's making a comeback.
I'm off it, bro, no Say 2012.
It bro, it's in 2016 I want tosee him fight some serious
fucking contenders bro yeah,they're trying to get amanda
because you know.

Speaker 2 (01:12:40):
You know dana wants to hold because the old girl
came from pfl.
Kayla came from pfl a few yearsago, so you know I'm trying to
get this fight for a few years.

Speaker 4 (01:12:47):
So but you know what too?
I'm gonna continue to die onthis hill, bro.
There's like a deeper.
It almost feels like a cold wargoing on right now as far as
like um the mma world, bro,because, again, bro, there is so
much talent in asia yeah whenit comes to like mma and

(01:13:10):
specifically like muay thai.
You know, there's so many umpeople who are capable of
fighting and like the flyweightdivision yeah you know the
bantamweight division which iswhere we have trouble sometimes.
Yeah, which is yeah, which iswhere bro dana's fucking
struggling to find talent andit's like, bro, they have people
in thailand specifically browho've been fighting since

(01:13:32):
they're seven years old yeahthey've been doing muay thai
since they're seven teach them alittle wrestling, you know bro
teach them some fuckingwrestling that'd be all right
and bro, it works.
It works for everybody else, itworks for izzy yeah, yeah, it
worked for for potan like youknow and to me the fact that
dana doesn't do it and there'ssuch like there.
There's something.

Speaker 2 (01:13:52):
There's something there.

Speaker 4 (01:13:53):
Yeah, there's something there feels like
there's a deeper thing that he'strying to stop.

Speaker 2 (01:14:00):
I think it's something low-key deeper.
I think it's something likeTerritory Wars shit.
I think it's some shit like yo.
I think low-key things have anunspoken rule.
Or it's like Dana's like yo Iget Dagestanestan, I get this
and one's like thailand this ismine, they got all asia.

(01:14:21):
That's kind of how it feelslike it feels like it feels like
one, like you says mostly asiaand it feels like dana, like
handpicks, like certain places.

Speaker 4 (01:14:28):
You know what I mean I feel like it's, but he never
goes to wrestling dominantplaces.

Speaker 2 (01:14:33):
He never goes to thailand.
It feels like he never goes tosome of those asian, like you
said.

Speaker 4 (01:14:36):
Bro, and there's so many great fighters out there.

Speaker 2 (01:14:39):
Yeah, I'll watch a little bit of one with you, bro.
It's just tough.

Speaker 4 (01:14:41):
Watch, bro.
When you watch their stand-upgame in one championship,
compared to the stand-up game inUFC, it's night and day, bro.
It's night and day I say it allthe time, bro, one has way
better strikers it's just, it'sjust like you said.
It's just better all around,yeah, yeah they got better MMA,
but when you have but striking,no, not even.

Speaker 2 (01:15:03):
That's what the casual fan wants to watch, which
is the funniest part.

Speaker 4 (01:15:07):
Yeah, they don't want to watch a motherfucker who
knows how to fucking grapple.
You know they don't want towatch somebody who's the
national champ in Dagestan yeahwrestling.
You know, to them it's just oh,it's a bunch of crotch sniffing
.

Speaker 2 (01:15:18):
I enjoy that.
Yeah, we respect it though,because we know it's so much
skill that it's involved.
It's so technical, bro, it's sohard.

Speaker 4 (01:15:26):
I always get reminded , though, whenever I watch UFC
with my girl and they go to theground and she's just like, oh
my gosh, this is so boring.
I'm like all entertained andshit, and she's like this looks
kind of gay.
I'm like you're just not seeingit right now?

Speaker 2 (01:15:39):
No, I do.
I hate when the crowd startsbooing too and it's like damn,
I'm ruining the vibe.

Speaker 4 (01:15:44):
Because you know what , the only time where I feel
like the booing is acceptable iswhen they're just clenched up
against the fence.

Speaker 2 (01:15:51):
Yeah, that's it.

Speaker 4 (01:15:52):
When they're just hugging againstambles going on
on the ground bro.

Speaker 2 (01:15:56):
Bro, exactly, it's a good dogfight.
I'm with it, bro.

Speaker 4 (01:16:02):
But yeah, no, I really wish Dana would just
invest in going over there, andit really just makes me think,
though he just wants to maintainthis idea of, like wrestling
and grappling as being, like,the superior style of fighting
you know, Because again too,they have that striking shit on
lock over there.

Speaker 5 (01:16:19):
Nah, they do bro, they got it on lock, it's
different.

Speaker 2 (01:16:22):
Bro, it's nasty, it's different, you know.
But as far as wrestling, though, then you switch it up.
Man, I'm with you.
Oh, I did want to talk to youabout how it's crazy seeing
people who were in, like SandyHook and shit, get shot down in
college.

Speaker 4 (01:16:36):
Oh, let's get into that, let's get into that.
We'll get into, because wemight get into Sinners next week
.
So I'm going to watch it thisweekend.

Speaker 2 (01:16:46):
All right, a little more serious now we're going to
switch it up a little bit.
We're going to switch it up soyou know the newest shooting.
Of course, our rest in peaceand shout out to the victims,
families and stuff like thatfirst.
But you know the news shootingfsu, right, fsu shooting.

(01:17:07):
Um, I saw a young girl man onthe on the news and I think she
was in um the parkland, theparkland shooting, I think.
So I don't know if that was ahigh school or junior high, I
think it was high school, juniorhigh, right, something,
something like that.
Anyways.
So you know ourfps and prayersto everyone.
But it was sad to see her comeon the tv screen saying she
never thought.
She said I never thought Iexperienced being in a, you know
, a mass shooting.
And she said I definitely neverthought I experienced being a

(01:17:29):
mass shooting twice.
So I can't even talk to you,man, I know, I know you can't be
deeper into some of this stuff,like as a society.
Man, how does it feel to seesome people now being like one,
two, three.
It's like damn.
I went to Sandy Hook.
Then I happen to be at thisconcert.
I went here and now I'm at thiscollege that gets shut up.
My mom was at Virginia Tech.

(01:17:51):
There's all types of things youhear from people nowadays.
It's like reoccurring things inpeople's life, like as a
society, how do we, like I don'tknow, how do we stop that?
Like?
How do we like I don't know,it's nasty to see this man.

Speaker 4 (01:18:01):
Well, um, I feel like it's not gonna stop, bro.
We're never gonna see an end toit.
Um until um, we're just notgoing to see an end to it
because, for one bro, gunculture is very much intertwined
with white culture in america.
So think about it like this.
All right, why is it when, like, we see these mass shootings go

(01:18:23):
on?
It's like there's no way wecould ever try to implement laws
, um, about guns, and it's likewe shouldn't have this
discussion about, you know,access to weapons carrying?
weapons, this and that you know,but when?
To weapons, carrying weapons,this and that you know.
But when we see like other actsof violence, like, more
specifically, I'm thinking aboutCarmelo Anthony- oh, yeah, yeah
, yeah.
So dude had what a cleatsharpener.

(01:18:45):
They're talking about he had aknife and they go and they try
to villainize him.
And it's just interesting tosee that there's no type of
villainization for when it comesto guns and other type of
assault weapons.
There's always some type ofexcuse made as to why somebody

(01:19:07):
is allowed to have it andjustified in using it.

Speaker 2 (01:19:11):
He got bullied because he was able to shoot his
friends Like what, using it?
He?

Speaker 4 (01:19:14):
got bullied so he was able to shoot his friends.
So it's interesting to see how,when it's white folks with guns
that we're even able to have,we have to have a talk about it,
but when it's, it could neverbe.

Speaker 2 (01:19:26):
We know it could never be a black man with a gun
to do something like that Iguess I'm trying to ask why do
they always get treated like bro, like in the past?
They oh bro, shop the churchdog and they got taken to
fucking Burger King.

Speaker 4 (01:19:40):
Because, again, it's part of white supremacist
culture bro.

Speaker 2 (01:19:44):
You got a cell phone.
It's like bah, bah, bah, bah,bah, bah Think about this, bro.

Speaker 4 (01:19:47):
Think about the inherent contradiction of white
folks being like really pro-gunrights rights but, then really
pro-police, like really thinkabout this.
It's really a contradiction tobe for both of those things
simultaneously.

Speaker 2 (01:20:06):
Or they don't trust the government, but they trust
the police, exactly.

Speaker 4 (01:20:10):
Exactly Because, again, our whole reasoning for
the Second Amendment is to beable to defend yourself against
the tyrannical government.
Yeah, okay.
So again, when we think about atyrannical government, it isn't
simply, you know, judges makethese laws and then you know,
everything's changed.
Somebody has to enforce the lawthat's being implemented.

(01:20:30):
So who is the arm of thegovernment to enforce the
tyranny?
It's the police yeah, you knowwhat I mean.
So again, to be pro-police andto be pro-second amendment are
inherently at odds with eachother because again you're only
pro-second amendment to defendyourself against possible
tyranny.

(01:20:50):
But here you are.

Speaker 2 (01:20:51):
That's not how they do it voting for tyranny, but
again.

Speaker 4 (01:20:53):
So now, when we think about that, why so?
What is the the logic behind itthen, if they're supporting two
contradictory you know, youknow people, people, you know
people view it.

Speaker 2 (01:21:04):
People feel it's like an amendment.
As I can't wait to kill amotherfucker.
Once I get on my property I'lltell people view that and again
and that makes sense, though,too.

Speaker 4 (01:21:12):
I completely understand that really, really
think about this.
I understand the idea of weneed guns to defend our property
, so why the fuck do we need togive the police guns?

Speaker 3 (01:21:23):
That's the point, that's the contradiction, right
there.

Speaker 4 (01:21:27):
Again, yes, you can't have both.
You have to have one or theother.
It's either we arm the policeand they they handle the
violence you know what?
I mean, or we arm ourselves andwe handle the violence
ourselves but, again.
You can't simultaneously be forthem having weapons and talk
about.

Speaker 2 (01:21:46):
We need guns to defend ourselves against the
government and for thegovernment.

Speaker 4 (01:21:49):
So now it lets me know that they aren't really
arming themselves.
You know, for a tyrannicalgovernment.
You know that they aren'treally arming themselves.
You know for a tyrannicalgovernment.
You know because they onlybelieve a government can be
tyrannical if black people areleading it.

Speaker 3 (01:22:02):
Yeah, that's what that inherently says right now.

Speaker 4 (01:22:05):
If black people are involved in the government and
there was tyrannical or any typeof other minority group who's
trying to push the intereststhat they don't agree with, then
it's tyrannical.

Speaker 2 (01:22:16):
Oh fuck, you know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (01:22:17):
So it comes back again.
I remember we had aconversation off Mike when we
were talking about like man, doyou think a civil war would ever
happen?

Speaker 2 (01:22:24):
Oh, yeah, yeah, you know.

Speaker 4 (01:22:25):
And my question was if a civil war did happen what
side?
Would the police be on?
You know what I mean, becausethat's, bro, that's a very
serious question.
Who is the police siding with?
I fight.

Speaker 2 (01:22:38):
You know what?
I'm fired.
At that point people decidewhat.
Their own side, though what'stheir own side what's their own
side, their own personal beliefs?
Yeah what?

Speaker 4 (01:22:49):
what does that mean exactly, though?
Decide what your own personalbeliefs you know again, because
if you believe that you know,you need a gun to defend
yourself from the government.
How can you align with thegovernment?
Yeah, exactly and again it'syou can align with the
government.
You could align with thegovernment when there are other
white folks but if it's niggas,then it's now.

(01:23:10):
We have to start forming ourown factions.

Speaker 2 (01:23:12):
We don't trust the government militias.

Speaker 4 (01:23:15):
Don't vote kamala in there, yeah yeah, because that's
when it's like you know.
So again they have both ofthese things simultaneously
going on with being pro-gun andpro-police you know, as a way.

Speaker 2 (01:23:28):
And then the kid, didn't the kid get the gun from
his mom.
Doing she a cop too, or ex-cop,right?
Right, wasn't she too, bro,right, yeah, yeah, that's guys.
I'm like, yeah, that's crazyhow that worked you know what I
mean I'm like, yeah, I'm like wegot the gun from an ex-cop, his
own mom.
And then you saw what he saidtoo right, his little, his
little manifesto, talking aboutlike he want to kill niggers and

(01:23:51):
stuff oh yeah, and then I alsoseen too, though um, we're in a
dark time, bro dude, there'slike um

Speaker 4 (01:23:58):
dark energy like right wing fucking white
supremacists who are out heretrying to like instigate, like
racial, like tension oh yeah, Isaw that they were trying to use
the the kids and the carmelothing too.

Speaker 2 (01:24:11):
Yeah, I saw that and the dad was like stop using my
son's face.
Yeah, bro.

Speaker 4 (01:24:15):
It's nasty, yeah.
So again, it's all tied intogether with this use of like
weapons and this discussion.

Speaker 2 (01:24:21):
I know we're having two different discussions right
now, guys, but they bothcorrelate.
Yeah, they both correlate.

Speaker 4 (01:24:26):
It's both intertwined .
When we talk about who'sallowed to use violence and when
violence is justified yeah,exactly, violence and when
violence is justified, you knowwhat I mean?
Because, again, there's racialimplications to who is justified
in defending themselves, orwho's the aggressor and who's
not the aggressor yeah exactlyBecause the other situation
we're talking about.

Speaker 2 (01:24:43):
if you guys, I don't know, everyone probably never
seen that one the CarmeloAnthony situation.
It was a boy down in Texas,Tennessee, I think.

Speaker 4 (01:24:50):
Tennessee.
Yeah, I think it was Tennesseeor something like that okay, one
of those southern states are.

Speaker 2 (01:24:56):
I know more information keeps coming out
more and more.
But I know he was asked toremove.
You know his two brothers kindof pulled up on him and you know
, got aggressive with him.
I guess they try to like jumpon him and smash his phone, you
know, and they were like youknow you should move.
I heard some slurs thrown athim and stuff like that and,
like you said, he ended up justpoking the kid real quick with

(01:25:22):
the cleat sharpener.
You know, sadly the kid passedaway.
He wasn't trying to kill thekid, he was trying to defend
himself.

Speaker 4 (01:25:26):
Yeah, he was defending himself.

Speaker 2 (01:25:27):
These are all kids, you know.
These are all just highschoolers.
The whole point was they try tomake it seem like you know he
was some like black angry guy.
I saw they try to post picturesof him on the internet with
guns out of nowhere.
And it was, and it was funnycause they're a BB gun.
Do you know what I mean?
And then again.

Speaker 4 (01:25:42):
What does that mean, though, when we live in a
society that we're supposed tobe pro?

Speaker 3 (01:25:46):
second amendment that's what's crazy.

Speaker 4 (01:25:48):
But niggas can be second amendment.

Speaker 2 (01:25:49):
Cause we Second Amendment?
Because we're aggressive.

Speaker 4 (01:25:52):
That's what that says right there, if they ever try
to use pictures of us with gunsas a way to criminalize us how
can that possibly criminalize uswhen that's the Second
Amendment?
That's the second one.
That shit was deemed soimportant that it needed to be
put after free speech.

Speaker 2 (01:26:10):
Especially in those southern states.
They really believe in that,yeah, and he's in a
stand-your-ground state too, bro.
So that's why I get interested.

Speaker 4 (01:26:16):
It's again like again , these ideas of self-defense,
bro, are so like they don'tapply to us.

Speaker 2 (01:26:21):
Yeah, they're made up .
That's what they don't want tosay.

Speaker 4 (01:26:23):
They're made up and they always move the goalposts
and we see this all the time inother and that and it's like
dude the.
The title of citizen is sofucking arbitrary bro that shit

(01:26:45):
could change, you know, in aninstance and what does it mean,
bro?
Yeah, you know.
So it's like.
It's like when we start usingthose types of words or we start
trying to quote the SecondAmendment and you know, try to
come up with all these like juststraw man ideologies to try to

(01:27:05):
support what the fuck we'retrying to do right now, bro?
It's not allowing us to see that.
It's inherently contradictingeverything else in society right
now, you know.
That's true, though, and itmakes us and to like, ignore it,
bro it it's.
It makes us go crazy in a sense, bro, having to consistently
have these arguments.

(01:27:25):
We we see all the time peopletrying to justify.

Speaker 2 (01:27:28):
You know was Carmelo Anthony right in defending
himself, and again thosearguments waste so much fucking
time and then they're like, oh,he was black, he's aggressive,
he's white, he's this, he's that, and it's like, yeah, but we
don't get nowhere the deeper thedeeper thought is that, where I

(01:27:49):
come from, is that these boysfelt so empowered to come bully
a black kid.
you know, that's where I kind ofcome from.
Like our society, bro, weempowered these kids to go bully
another race.
Like that's kind of sad, bro,to the point where this kid felt
like his only thing to do wasto fucking take something you
know and run.
Like he literally just ran.
So it wasn't like he stayed andtried to stab him five times.

(01:28:10):
Like this would be a completelydifferent story if you told me
oh, he stabbed him ten times.
It's like, bro, he poked himand ran.
Obviously he didn't want the kidto die.
It was a fucking track meet.
Motherfucker was trying to runtrack.
He didn't want the kid.
That's why shout out to thatdad for standing up, bro.
Obviously I know it's sad bro.
He lost a son.
Bro.

(01:28:31):
I know, bro, kids be kids, bro,I've been a teenager, bro, I've
been bullshitting before.
I get it, bro, I just startedsome shit.
I get it, man.
But no one wants their son todie over some bullying bullshit.
So I get him standing therelike hey, stop using my son for
these racist protests, leave myson rest.
This wasn't no race.
This was some kids who probablyshouldn't have been.

Speaker 4 (01:28:53):
yeah, his son made a mistake yeah, you know what I
mean, but his son wasn't noantifa kkk.

Speaker 2 (01:28:57):
So let's not use him.
That's why I respect the dadfor being like.
Nah, don't include me in thisbullshit.

Speaker 4 (01:29:03):
Yeah, like but pretty much the reason why I just tied
both of those together isbecause I feel like the
underlying thing that makes themboth similar yeah is like the
white, the white supremacistculture yeah, in america.
You know what I mean thatallows for these types of things
to continue to happen somethings are acceptable, some
things are not you know, and forus to again continue to have

(01:29:25):
these same conversations everytime over my little timothy, do
it yeah, because, again, bro,it's how many more times?
because, like when we're talkingabout, uh, you mentioned like
the parkland shooting or sandyhook, and you're like, is that a
high school or middle school?
It's how many more times?
Because, like, when we'retalking about, you mentioned
like the Parkland shooting orSandy Hook, and you're like is
that a high school or middleschool?
It's like dude.
I can't remember because we'vehad so many bro.
And we had all levels at thispoint oh yeah, at this point,
when I think about massshootings, I'm combining some

(01:29:45):
mass shootings in my mind.
Like yeah, the movie theaterwhen you're thinking about the
school.
It's so many, oh wait, like twohappened in Colorado.

Speaker 2 (01:29:55):
Wait, wait, the OG happened.

Speaker 4 (01:29:56):
Yeah, you know, you're like oh, what part of
Texas are we talking about?

Speaker 2 (01:30:01):
We talking about El Paso we talking about so-and-so.

Speaker 4 (01:30:05):
That's why I know it's gross.

Speaker 2 (01:30:10):
You know.
So again, it's just we, justhow you entwined it, though it's
more of like the wholeaggressor culture and how, like
I don't know man, I know we'remaking this racy, but it is a
little racy though.

Speaker 1 (01:30:22):
It is racy, it's completely racy bro.

Speaker 2 (01:30:25):
Because you got to think, like, bro, we always get
taken in body bags, most of thetime right.
And it's like, bro, most massmurderers and shooters like you
look them up online, most ofthem like got taken safely and
if they didn't get taken safely,they killed themselves.
So it's like when we see, youknow, rp Trayvon, and you see a

(01:30:45):
guy like Joseph Rimmel Fucking,sign, skittles At press
conferences and like sell thegun he used to kill Trayvon yeah
, you know what I mean.
And it's like he's okay to thisday.
He got money from killing ayoung black kid.
And it's like, oh, you see ayoung black kid accidentally
kill somebody, defend himself.
It's sad, bro.
And it's like, oh well, youshould kill him, give him death

(01:31:06):
penalty.
It's like, bro, that was justan accident, bro, that far, and
he didn't mean to kill him andtake it down.
It just it was a kid's mistake,bro.

Speaker 4 (01:31:16):
So it's like it's weird to see, like you said,
shit apply to certain races ornot like because again, it don't
apply to us though black blackchildren aren't afforded the
same level of innocence thatwhite children are white
children are allowed to makemistakes yeah you know what I
mean.
It's allowed for them to belike well, you know he's.
How many times have we seenlike something happened with a
white boy in the news and whiteboy be like 28 and they talk

(01:31:36):
about you know?

Speaker 2 (01:31:37):
he was young as a kid , still just learning.

Speaker 4 (01:31:39):
Who's down here 30 talking about?
He's just.

Speaker 2 (01:31:41):
You know, this was a learning curve for I know bro,
he got drunk in the car andkilled his friends, not learning
think about trayvon.

Speaker 4 (01:31:49):
It's like, oh, he was 14, he should have knew better
yeah, he should have been out atnight and again so it's very
racial, bro, and to say it's not, bro, you're.
You're a liar it is.
You're a liar you're a liarbecause, again, if dude black
people can name like hellashooters who've gotten off bro,
and they're went home they wenthome they went bro kyle

(01:32:11):
rittenhouse eating good noodlesevery day bro.

Speaker 2 (01:32:13):
Kyle rittenhouse is still around eating good noodles
bro and it's bro.
Kyle Rittenhouse is stillaround Eating good noodles, bro,
and it's like you know how manyvideos we didn't see them.
Niggas reach for the cell phone, didn't reach for their wallet
and it's like, oh, I remember.

Speaker 4 (01:32:25):
I seen bro, and it's been so many videos.
Now to where it's like Too manybro.
It's just crazy to me, becauseI've've seen hundreds of videos,
bro, and every video it's justlike there's always somebody
trying to justify it every time,and that's and that's the part,
too, where it's racy, becausethere's no way you know niggas
are wrong a hundred percent ofthe time bro like that's just

(01:32:47):
what kills me too.

Speaker 2 (01:32:47):
There's like never even like the slightest bit of
accountability it's like, andit's funny because, like bro,
I'm not entire person.
If I see someone in the wrong,I'm accounting like nah bro, I
can't lie bro, I wouldn't havedone that one bro, I can't lie
Like I don't know if I wouldhave reached all the way he
shouldn't have got shot, but Idon't think I would have done
that myself.

(01:33:08):
But it's like, yeah, man, thesepeople are always in the
comments like oh typical blackviolence.
And it's like I hate readingthose comments, dude, because
it's like I know it's rage bait.
I know everyone thinks likethat, but it's just like I hate
like, oh, typical black people.
That's all they know.
Y'all know you be seeing thosestupid ass comments.
I don't even engage because,nah, that's strictly people

(01:33:31):
trying to get paid oh, they gota view, that's all they get paid
.
And then you see their content.
All they do is rage bait andI'm like nah, Don't engage bro,
I'm good bro, I'm good man.

Speaker 4 (01:33:39):
It's not for me Especially if they don't got a
profile picture.

Speaker 2 (01:33:42):
They're not using their government name bro.
They're strictly there to soyoung.
He was 21, all right, and thenwe do something.
It's like he was 17, try him asan adult and it's like all
right.

Speaker 4 (01:33:59):
I think the thing is, bro, we're just not gonna see a
change because there's um, it'sjust too intertwined with just,
uh, white people being at thetop of the hierarchy.
You know, there's always also apart of it there always has to
be a lax on the regulations ofguns, because that's how a lot
of white folks have historicallyjust had their power in this

(01:34:20):
country.
You know what I mean that'swhere a lot of their power stems
from that's true you know whatI mean, and it's just a bigger
arsenal, yeah they're not goingto give it up.
You know that's a inherently apart of, like you know, white
american freedom right, oh goddamn.

Speaker 2 (01:34:34):
I wish she was lying, but that is true.

Speaker 4 (01:34:38):
No, it is, bro.
That's how they killed off themajority of the Native Americans
.
Bro, Guns and disease.
Think about this when youreally think about what was the
one thing, they didn't want toregulate during a global
pandemic, the disease.
They're all for the spread ofthe disease and them having the

(01:34:59):
newman talking ass.

Speaker 2 (01:35:00):
You know what?

Speaker 4 (01:35:00):
I mean because, again too, when you look at it
historically, this isn't thefirst time that, um, you know,
white americans use likebiological warfare, or they use
like biological hey, newman,talking ass shit again, bro,
they were given, they were givenNative Americans blankets with
smallpox and measles and shitlike that.
You know a or even, if you wantto get deep, we don't even have

(01:35:23):
to go that far back bro.
During the fucking influenzabro, during that, during that
shit in the 20s bro, there was,there was folks, white folks who
didn't want?
to wear masks, nigga.

Speaker 2 (01:35:33):
And then it comes out later it was man made virus
that got exposed from a lab andit was, oh, it was true.
This whole time I thought wewere just crazy, not trusting
the government.
Hey know what it's, newman?
It's Unapologetic.
It's episode 59.
We, the gods, not messing withyou, nah, but nah, not real shit

(01:35:54):
.
We appreciate you guyslistening honestly second, but
nah, real shit.
We appreciate you guys forlistening Honestly second time
on your day, man, we reallyappreciate you guys.
It's my quick one-minute reviewfrom Sinners.
Sinners is a great movie.
Everyone go see it in theaters.
We gotta keep Black Semina.
Keep it going, man.
Ryan Cooter gets to own a moviein 25 years.
That's big for us, bro.
Oh yeah, it's a one-off, butstill, man, you don't see stuff

(01:36:17):
like that man.
I didn't see it in theatersstill, but I did see it because
I just had to see it because itwas too much.
Newman, everyone who sees thatis going to enjoy that movie.
Newman, what you got, bro.

Speaker 4 (01:36:35):
If you made it all the way to the end, bro, I
appreciate y'all, man.
Um, yeah, we're back, dude,we're just trying to keep it
consistent, you know?
Um, I definitely appreciate ify'all stuck with us, even
through the uh hot conspiracytheory takes, you know.
If you have a problem with it,man, leave a comment.
Yeah, that's fine.
You know, I'll just address iton the next pod, you know, and
shit, if you're right're right,you know I'm man enough to admit
yeah, I was wrong so and so hada very good point, you know.

(01:36:56):
Um, anyways, yeah, like I said,I appreciate y'all making it to
the end, bro, and, uh, you know, have a good week hey episode,
I don't put a genetic.

Speaker 2 (01:37:06):
And hey, if y'all seen sinners, it's for y'all.
Hey, we out bro.

Speaker 3 (01:37:30):
There we are, a brand new pair of robes To rattle
over the box.
And frighten Horns of tomb werenearly broken.
Hearted, saluted.
Father, dear, kissed me,darling mother Drank a pint of
beer.
My grief and tears To smotherthem off.
To reap the corn Leave where Iwas born.

(01:37:52):
Cut a stone.
Black thorn to banish Ghostsand goblins.
Brand new pair of robes.

Speaker 2 (01:37:56):
Hold up, hold up, hold up Real quick.
I know it's not a review yet,but that music scene was the
best scene I've ever seen Alltime.
Him just putting all culturesin.
Yeah, yeah, honestly, go seethat movie.
Y'all get it.
I'm going to play it to theepisode for tonight.
Yeah, episode for the night.

Speaker 3 (01:38:11):
Bye bye bye bye bye bye bye bye bye bye bye bye bye
bye bye bye bye bye bye bye byebye bye bye bye bye bye bye bye
bye bye bye bye bye bye bye byebye bye bye bye.

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