Episode 63 | "Crypto In The Hood" - Unapodogetic

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SPEAKER_02 (00:00):
64?

(00:00):
Episode 64?
I don't know, man.
I'm losing count, bro.
You've been too consistent.
All I know is we're back, bro.
Y'all tune in there.
We on any station you look at.
We on there.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
All streaming platforms, bro.
It's 63.
Episode 63.
We'll come back with the boys.
Yeah, we're on all platforms,man.

(00:21):
We're on TikTok, Instagram.
Y'all know the vibes.
Make sure you follow us onthere, man.
Definitely follow us on ourTikTok, on our Instagram.
Please engage, you know,comment, like, share, you know.
Man, send us a message, man.
If you thought some shit we saidon the last pod was kind of
crazy or it sucked or, you know,we should talk about this, we
should talk about that.

(00:41):
Bro, send us a DM, bro.
I might just do it.
Oh, you funny for that one.
He said, send us a DM.
Hey, shout out to my lady, bro.
Happy birthday, baby.
We love you, man.
Oh, is that it?
No, we got it.
What's her applause?
God.
God damn, it's the wrong one.
Why does it always start offwith those drops, bro?

(01:01):
Happy birthday, baby.
We love you.
There we go.
There we go.
Happy birthday to my girl, man.
Everyone tell my girl happybirthday, you know what I mean?
Shit.
We had a nice little date on aMonday.
Today's not Monday, but we had anice Monday.
New in the lab today.

(01:22):
What we got today, New?
This is going to be a good one,man.
Bro, we're going to cook today,bro.
You know, we've been cookingevery pod, bro.
But I feel like last pod waskind of different from the
normal ones.
You know, we kind of had like atechnical difficulty in the
middle.
So there was a lot of topics wedidn't get to talk about.
But I feel like today we got alot of things to tap in on, you
know?
Oh, man.

(01:42):
Like, earlier, before we evenstarted, too, Kerry, you know,
showed me his list ofeverything, man.
And it's a lot.
And it wasn't even sports yet,either.
I didn't even see any sportstopics on there, either.
Yeah.
It was just straight, justentertainment, culture, music.
Oh, my God.
I forgot that.
Sports.
Yep.
Shit.
All right, dude.
Let's get started.

SPEAKER_04 (02:06):
Look.
All right, all right.

SPEAKER_00 (02:14):
I was counting up for him on a private flight I
just crawled on my body like amedieval knight I was fucking up
a sack on that purple spray Allmy bitches beneficial, even
towed a pistol Even blow like awhistle, lie to officials I'll
drip you down in crystals if Iknow you're real How you geeking
out your body off a pink pill?
I constant line to me and I fuckwith your steel If I'm any

(02:37):
properties, I bought them kingof the hill Fuck nigga need to
learn his place before we puthim in it Step in a swag and I'm
running shit, I might run forSenate I got a bitch up in the
kitchen wearing them coochiecutters.

SPEAKER_02 (02:49):
It's West Coast versus Joey Badass.
You know we rocking with theWest Coast on this side.
We got a

SPEAKER_01 (03:00):
little Ravine.
Hey, hoey, is you stupid or youdumb?
Poppin' in this thing about a 20V1.
Hey, hoey, is you finna show youdone?

(03:20):
We don't give a fuck where youfrom, where you from.
Uh-huh, okay, what's up?
Shut up.
Uh-huh, okay, what's up?
Shut up.
Baby teeth, you ain't even got aplaque.
Yes, fact check, we wanna seethe numbers like a math test.
Round, Joey, round, we gon' nameit at your backpack.
Real shit, you should act moreand you should rap less.

(03:41):
Every verse ass with that BBL.
Cross West Coast, get itseasoned, now you heavy on it.
We'll be right back.

SPEAKER_02 (04:08):
Unapologetic episode 63, man.
Thanks for rocking with theboys.
How you doing today, Numi Bear?
Dude, I'm doing fantastic, man.
You know, I feel so free.
You know, just finished upschool last week, bro.

(04:32):
That's it, man.
That's it for me, man.
That boy graduated with honors,bro.
Yup.
Put some respect on him, man.
I'll treat him, y'all.
Yeah, man.
So it's a good feeling, man.
I feel like I'm done for themost part.
I really can't see myself goingback to school, at least for not
a few years, bro.
Yeah, not yet.
You know, I definitely got totake some time off, bro.
You know, but I'm just, I'mgrateful, man.

(04:52):
It's the end of an era.
Yeah.
You know, it's a...
It's good, though.
Yeah, bro, it's...
like looking back at it man it'sthe end of me accomplishing a
goal that i set out 10 years agoyou know what i mean like that's
the whole reason why i joinedthe army you know was because i
went that's crazy yeah yeah soit really feels like the end the
end of a chapter bro you knowthis is like a part of the army

(05:14):
side yeah that was the wholereason why i went to the
military bro so i could have myschool paid for bro damn you get
what i mean i'm here bro yeahNot everyone reaches that point.
Yeah.
You know?
Dude, and it's like, having gonethrough that, bro, and growing
up and hearing people talkabout, you know, just being
consistent and sticking with it,bro, and just...

(05:36):
I get it, man.
I get it, bro.
Cause there's so many timeswhere I just wanted to give up,
not just in school, but in thearmy, you know what I mean?
Where I forgot about what thegoal was and what, you're like,
God damn it.
Yeah, man.
To where I was just like, dude,fuck this.
I'm just going to go to jailtoday.
I'm going to have to fightsomebody, you know, I'm, I'm
going to get kicked out, youknow?
And it's crazy, bro.

(05:57):
It's just crazy to think, man,that like I made it through all
that, bro.
And it's, To me, man, I justreally want to honor my past
self for having to put up withall that shit, bro, you know?
Yeah, it was a lot of bullshit,man.
It was a lot of bullshit, man.

UNKNOWN (06:13):
I'm happy I'm here, bro.

SPEAKER_02 (06:14):
Yeah, that's for new, man.
Episode 63, man.
Look at that boy new.
He made it out the Army.
Made it through school, man.
Nah, but going through the Armyis probably a lot of bullshit.
Oh, yeah.
I'm about to talk about it nextweek during the Memorial Day
podcast.
Oh.
Yeah, so we're going to havethat, bro.
Y'all get that next week on theArmy pod.
Yeah, yeah, bro.
I got some nasty stories, bro.
You know, I won't give up toomany, but it gets nasty.

(06:35):
Y'all get a little bit on theArmy pod.
Y'all heard them.
Shit, where are we going tostart?
We always said we're going tostart light, and we never
actually started light.
Let's really start light, bro.
We're not lying today, bro.
Let's really start light, bro.
What should we ease in withtoday?
You pick, man, because last timewhen I picked, I thought it was
light.
It wasn't.

(06:57):
Honestly, I feel like nothing'slight.
Hey, then fuck it, man.
Get into the lightest thing.
Honestly, I want to say hip-hopfor last.
That's the problem.
No, now we're starting.
Start off hip-hop, bro.
We're starting off hip-hop.
We're starting off hip-hop.
Y'all heard the Ray Vaughnbeginning.
You're right.
Y'all heard the Ray Vaughnbeginning.
So if you guys didn't know, wehave Joey Badass versus Ray
Vaughn versus Daylight versus AZChike versus, you know, pretty

(07:21):
much Joey versus the West Coastright now.
It all kind of started with JoeyBadass dropped the rulers back a
few months ago and said there'stoo much West Coast dick
licking.
Whoa.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Whoa.
I mean, it's just a play on theold J-Bar.
Yeah.
It's a play on the old J-Bar,but he added a little, you know,
added a little flavor on it.

(07:41):
But, yeah, you know, everyone onthe West Coast took a little to
that.
And he made some shots like, youknow, you niggas defending
Kendrick.
He ain't even friends with youniggas.
And y'all haven't got hisnumbers.
You know, he cracked a fewjokes.
So, yeah.
And then he went on a freestylewith Big Sean and Absol.
That was fire.
You hear that one?
Yeah, it was good.
Red Bull freestyle, yeah.
It was good.
That sparked some more.

(08:02):
At this point, as we'replotting, it's been back and
forth war.
I think about an hour ago, JoeyBadass dropped the last Dix
track.
I think we're on track 10.
We're on track 10 right now.
Okay.
I think yesterday, Ravondropped, Daylight dropped, AZ
Chike dropped, Joey droppedyesterday, then Joey dropped
today again.
So those niggas is bombing.
I can't lie.

(08:22):
I like it.
As a hip hop fan, I'm happy.
I like it.

SPEAKER_03 (08:24):
I'm happy.

SPEAKER_02 (08:25):
I like it coming from Joey because I feel like
he's been around for a whilenow, bro.
He has a lot of respect in thegame.
I say he has a classic album.
Yeah, for sure.
I'll give him that.
He has a classic album.
That's kind of what they'reshooting at him.
They're kind of saying you ain'tdone nothing since.
But that one album was kind oflike, I got a lot of weight to
it.
You got a lot

SPEAKER_04 (08:45):
of

SPEAKER_02 (08:45):
weight.
You got a lot of weight, bro.
It got a lot of weight, bro.
Like, if you were outside whenthat shit dropped, bro, it was
different.
It was different.
You know, you got a classic,bro.
That's a classic album, man.
But yeah, I mean, there is sometruth to that, though, too, of
what has he done since.
Because I do think about justthe West Coast disrespect, you
know, and just saying, you know,people from the West Coast, it
all has, like, sounds the same.

(09:06):
Because we do have, like, aparticular cultural sound on the
West, bro.
For sure.
what the fuck has the East Coastbeen doing lately with music,
bro?
We've been ice spice, you know,drill music.
It's been true.
It's been trash, bro.
It has been kind of trash.
I mean, New York has been trashlately, or I'm not even going to
say trash, bro.
They definitely have not been,like, in the top five for, like,

(09:30):
regional sounds lately, bro.
I mean, now kind of people arestealing that West Side Gun
sound a little bit, but...
And, again, that's...
That's different, too, though,because, again, when you think
West Side Gun, bro, I'm thinkingBuffalo.
That's Buffalo, yeah.
And again, bro, when I'mthinking New York, I'm thinking
NYC, bro.
Niggas from New York was notclaiming Buffalo, too, yeah.

(09:50):
Yeah, don't try to claim Buffaloall of a sudden, bro.

UNKNOWN (09:51):
Don't claim it now, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (09:53):
Don't claim it now, New Yorkers.
Shots of Namaste.
But, yeah, but that's how I'mfeeling, man.
Like, just the shit they've beendropping lately, bro, has been
really...
It has been very true.
It's been garbage, bro.
You know, when you reallycompare it to what folks in,
like, Atlanta have been doing.
You know, folks...
Yeah, in the Midwest, you know,Chicago, you know.
All these other regions, bro,have been doing things, bro, and

(10:16):
really tapping into, like, theirdistinct regional sounds and
stuff like that.
Yeah.
And it feels like New York, man,New York, they kind of figuring
it out.

SPEAKER_03 (10:23):
They are.
Because...

SPEAKER_02 (10:25):
Because when I used to think about New York growing
up, I would think about reallyrical type of hip hop, bro.
For sure.
I don't think about that nomore.
That's not what comes to mindwhen I think about New York.
I'm thinking about some gooddrill.
Yeah.
I think about drill.
I think about Ice Spice and allher fart lyrics.
Yeah, fart.
Your nigga going to eat me out.
Like, all right, Ice Spice.
How many times you going to saythat?
I get it.
It's trash, bro.

(10:45):
I need something else, too.
Yeah.
And you know this is no diss to,you know...
Like, women rappers.
Nah, we love open rappers.
Don't do that.
Yeah, bro, because you know,bro, Glowrilla is probably one
of my favorite artists.
I was swerving last night to theGorilla.
I was swerving last night.
I was running red lights to theGorilla.
That's what I'm saying.
That glow, bro, that shitthumps, man.

(11:06):
I be swerving to glow.
I can't even lie.
Yeah, but it's just right now, Ilike what Joey's doing, though,
because New York needs some shitto just get the wheels.
I like it.
I like it, bro.
Get the wheels moving right now.
I even think the Battle Rappersjump.
I think he had a load of Luxjump in, so...
I don't know.
I like this for hip-hop, man.
Keep it hip-hop.
I know the Drake-Kendrick thingwas a little more personal, and
it got a little weird with thesuing and this and that.

(11:29):
So I'm happy this is kind ofsome real hip-hop street shit.
Keep it hip-hop, bro.
We're going to talk shit abouteach other, but it's some
hip-hop shit, though.
I'm better than you.
Because you know I ain't got nowhite boys in the beef right
now.
Yeah, exactly.
That white boy really came outof Drake.
I'm assuming you're like,where'd this come from, Drake?

UNKNOWN (11:46):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (11:47):
Man, bro.
Where the fuck did that comefrom, Drake?
Why are you acting white now?
And that's what, yeah, that's agood point, bro.
This does feel just like a goodold fashioned, just like East
Coast, West Coast.
I've been cracking some jokes.
Niggas trying to say Joey at theDiddy parties.
And then today Joey came backand Joey was like, um.
I know that was the angle youtake, but you forgot K-Dub at
the same party I was at.

(12:07):
Joey's really like, come on.
You can't take that angle,nigga.
We was all at those parties.
So yeah, Joey came back withsome shit today.
Like, come on.
And he's at that same party.
He told me about an artist namedRay Vaughn.
He started cooking at low key.
I can't lie.
He was like, K-Dub said, help meput him on.
I was like, ah! Nah, nah.
Joey was going.
I can't even lie.

(12:28):
No West Coast bias.
Joey need to get some shit offtoday.
But yeah, no, the beef, thebeef's dope, man.
I can't lie.
Y'all can go check those songsout probably on YouTube.
Yeah.
Now, I feel like even just tokeep it on the beef for just
slightly longer.
Yeah, of course.
I feel like the beefs do areally good...
They're really good at like...
helping all of us reflect on youknow just the different nuances

(12:53):
within music and the differentregions and what they have to
offer us and I think like youtapped in with Kendrick and
Drake you know about thembeefing and stuff and I feel
like again when Drake andKendrick beef, it really caused
people to start talking about,you know, West coast has a
regional sound, you know, whatis, what does Canada have?
Yeah.
And I feel like since then, youknow, there's been more of like

(13:15):
this, like an appreciation thatpeople have been showing now of
like, you know, this is what thefuck we got coming out of here.
And, and I feel like I've beenseeing that a lot more recently
with the West coastspecifically, you know, not, not
really tied with any like, uh,Ray Vaughn or Joey badass, but
just in general.
Yeah.
I feel like I just been seeing alot more people just tapping

(13:38):
into making real, real Westcoast sounding shit.
You know where it's reallyfounded in like the, a lot of
those like G funk samples, youknow, those old school, like
those really though it's, it's avery particular sample.
To really make like a West coastbeat.
Yeah.
And I feel like, yeah, we reallygoing back to that and tapping
in on that bro.

(13:59):
And yeah, I feel like that's avery good thing for hip-hop and
music, bro.
Because I feel like we'vebeen...
drawn into like this morecommercial type of you know how
do we make music appeal toeverybody and I feel like it
shouldn't have to and then wegotta mimic it yeah you know
what I mean yeah fuck trying tomimic it let's start getting
back to having regional sound Ilike that bro you know so I feel

(14:20):
like this beef and stuff likethat is very important bro
because again too it causes youto have to pick a side and not
just try to you know we're justcreating commercial art exactly
like of course you're gonnaenjoy the music but it's like
nigga who really like who wonyou know what I mean who fucking
won more so like So it's like,honestly, one of the Joey songs,
I wasn't fucking with the...
But then today, I was fuckingwith it.
But also, today, bro, he wrotehim a Tupac beat.

(14:43):
I gotta play it, bro.
I gotta play it, bro.
I can't lie.
Hey, honestly, man, Joey wrotehim a Tupac beat today.
And, oh, man, I don't know.
Joey...
This

SPEAKER_01 (14:55):
one's called Crash

SPEAKER_04 (15:02):
Dummy.

SPEAKER_01 (15:14):
We'll be right back.

(15:44):
I can't lie.
That's a five-minute track.

SPEAKER_02 (15:58):
I'm not playing the whole track.
He kind of keeps thataggressive, like, I don't know.
That nigga enters in pock mode,bro, on purpose.
Bro, I love it, man.
Because honestly, I think he waslike, oh, y'all was fucking with
the East Coast beat yesterday?
Okay.
Bro, I love it.
I'm fucking with that, bro.

(16:19):
So now I need one of these WestCoast niggas to steal like a
Biggie or Nas beat and rip it.
You know?
Get him back.
Get his ass back.
Tag him back.

UNKNOWN (16:26):
And that's, bro.

SPEAKER_02 (16:28):
This is what we need, though.
Yeah, bro.
Exactly.
Again, bro, when you have beefslike this, bro, it really causes
more nuanced discussions aboutmusic, nigga.
Yeah, bro.
Exactly.
Like, you really got to...
It caused you to have to go backand look into the past, bro.

SPEAKER_03 (16:41):
Yeah, bro.

SPEAKER_02 (16:42):
And have to really think about some shit and
analyze some shit.
Damn, that's how this needs toget down.
Yeah.
Man, because honestly, youprobably got some kids out there
who probably never heard thatsong.
There's definitely some hip-hopfans out there, a little
younger, probably never heardthat song.
Got no clue what that beat is.
And that's important, bro.
As much as a lot of people liketo think about, oh, you know,

(17:02):
young kids should just know.
They need to have anintroduction.
Exactly.
We were introduced, man.
Yeah.
You know what?
That's why I keep saying, man, Ilike this hip-hop shit, man.
I love it, man.
I hope everyone's enjoying it,bro.
Yup.
Because then I might open thedoor for y'all to go check out
shit that other music.
Like Newman said, Joey Badadropped a classic album like,
fuck, like at this point, almost15 years ago.
That's important for the youth.

(17:23):
Yeah, man.
Go back and listen to it.
That shit came out like 2013, sogo listen to that.
Ray Vaughan got a good albumthat dropped last month.
Actually, I was a little late toRay Vaughan's album.
I can't lie.
The beef got me into his album.
Yeah.
It was a good album.
It's a really good album.
I did play a few songs the otherday.
What's out on this music show?

(17:43):
I haven't listened to any othermusic, though.
I can't lie.
Besides this beef.
No, I peeped some of RayVaughn's albums.
You did?
Yeah.
It's solid, bro.
Yeah, he has some good tracks onthere, bro.
He had a lot of catchy tracks onthere.
Bro, yeah.
I can't lie.
It surprises a lot of stuff towhere it's like The Hook or
something.
It just gets caught in yourhead, bro.
I mean, I guess I did see him atthe Isaiah Rashad show last
year.
He was the opener.

(18:04):
And I liked him as the opener.
Yeah.
I guess I never really heard hisfull body of work, and he's
actually a really good artist.
That was my last hip-hop thing Ithink I had.
You got any more hip-hop shit?
I mean, we could keep ithip-hop, keep it West Coast.

(18:25):
Snoop Doggy Dogg.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, Snoop.
Snoop was trying to defendhimself, right?
Yeah, let's talk about SnoopDogg.
Okay, yeah.
So as many of you might haveseen, Snoop was at a crypto
party at the White House forTrump.
He actually performed, too.
Yeah, he performed there a fewmonths ago.
And this is the same guy a fewyears ago who said, you know,

(18:46):
anyone that does anything forTrump's a sucker, a bitch, and
all that stuff.
You know, he said, yeah, hesaid, you know, he said all
types of stuff.
And, you know, fast forward, youknow, Snoop, Snoop's the same
thing, doing the same thing, youknow.
I don't know.
Me personally, I think it's kindof, I don't know, it's kind of
interesting.
Now he's turning on his ownwords, but how you feel about

(19:07):
new?
Dude, Snoop's really just beengetting on my nerves the past
few years, bro.
I'm telling you.
On and off the mic.
Yeah, man.
It's a lot of just off the micstuff, bro.
It's a lot of off the mic stuff.
Like when he was, you know,cussing out old ladies and

(19:28):
stuff, you know, like you're onthe red table crying and
apologizing.
Stop.
No, bro.
You still, you stillembarrassing your wife, you
know, hell of a fair stillcoming out years later, bro.
I guess by 20 years.
Yeah.
And it's just like, when youlook at it from that standpoint,
bro, and then now it's, it'sSnoop shucking and jiving for

(19:49):
Donald Trump for some money.
Yeah, man.
It's really just like, this iswho Snoop is.
This is his character, bro.
You said no, not, you said forthe check, Snoop gonna do it.
Yeah, and honestly, dude, it'sreally time, like I've been
saying, bro, since we came backonto the pod.
I believe what the fuck theseniggas is saying in the music.

SPEAKER_03 (20:10):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (20:11):
If I really go back and I listen to Snoop Doggy
Dogg, you know, and I listen tosome of his old shit, bro.
You're sick.
The message is there.
You know, Snoop's been ascumbag.
Been a scumbag.
Yeah, been the type of nigga todo something for some money.
You know?
Nah, but he's doing it for us.
You didn't see his interview?
Fuck no, dude.
Snoop, you think Snoop'spro-black?

(20:33):
Snoop, the same dude who's goingto put black women on leashes
and walk around the red carpet?
come on bro and that's what Ihate too I think we tapped on it
on the pod about again niggasnever be pro black until it's
you know you get caught up insome drama and it's like yeah
you know oh they just trying totake down the black man no the
fuck they not bro he said he'sbeing crypto to the hood

(20:55):
terrible why the fuck does thehood need crypto And that's what
I'm saying, bro.
That's the same shit Hov triedto do during the pandemic, bro.
They only want to try to providefor black folks if they can make
money off of black folks, bro.
Snoop has no good intentionstrying to bring...
He is trying to promote cryptobecause he has his fucking

(21:18):
dirty, sneaky paws in crypto.
Every nigga that's on him gets acut.
That's what I'm saying, bro.
If Snoop's doing crypto, I knowSnoop is not smart enough to get
into crypto himself.
Some fucking white man withmoney told him to do it.
Yeah, it was his partner.
And that's what I'm saying, bro.
So when you really think aboutit, bro, Snoop is an agent of
white supremacy, bro.

(21:39):
Snoop is actually out here, bro.
Snoop...
Snoop and niggas like him aredoing crazy harm to the black
community, bro.
And again, we think it's coolbecause, again, the music's
good.
It's like I said on one of theolder pods, bro.
They're giving us poison, butbecause the poison tastes good,
we're willing to ingest itourselves.

(22:00):
When you really go back andlisten to Doggy Style, bro, it's
straight degeneracy, nigga.
It's a classic album.
That's a classic album.
That's a classic album.
That shit fucking rocks.
But when you listen to themusic, nigga, it's degeneracy,
nigga.
It's a lot of degeneracy.
And when we really think aboutthat coupled with Snoop's
actions, bro, when you'rewilling to sell out and then

(22:21):
simultaneously now you want totry to pro-black this, pro-black
that, bro, Snoop's a fuckinggrifter.
He's a con artist.

SPEAKER_04 (22:30):
Stop.

SPEAKER_02 (22:31):
Selling us music.
You know?
Yeah, yeah.
And then selling us.
And it kills me, too, becausethis is the same Snoop who was
trying to sell us God at onepoint.
And Rastafari.
He was selling us Rasta shit.
God.
You know, God.
Pimpism.
Pimp.
Come on, bro.
Come on, bro.
You know?
Same dude.

(22:51):
He's a fucking grifter.
This is a con man, bruh.
And it's not just Snoop, though.
Snoop is just the representationof what I'm talking about as a
whole that's going on in hiphop.
There's a lot of niggas justlike Snoop who will sell niggas
out for some change and then goand be like, hey, they're trying
to attack the black man, though.
Look what they're doing.
And it's like, whoa, whoa, whoa.

(23:11):
Yeah, like look at what they'redoing to the black man.
It's like, bro, you're trying tosell crypto to the hood.
Crypto to the...
He's trying to sell crypto tothe hood.
Hey, when you put it like that,that's crazy.
Come on, bro.
He's trying to straight exploitniggas.
And because when, bro, becauseit's political too.
When you put it like that,that's crazy, bro.
Because it's so politicalbecause when you even think

(23:32):
about crypto too and what'sgoing on in a more global scale,
right?
Yeah.
Crypto is now competing withother forms of currency going on
around the world.
Yeah, yeah.
We talked about it on one of theolder pods.
It's a battle, bro.
Bricks right now.
Bricks.
It's Brazil, Russia, India.
South Africa okay themmotherfuckers are coming

(23:52):
together in China okay themmotherfuckers are coming
together to create their owncurrency right the way we're
trying to stop that right now isthrough crypto and other forms
of currency like that that wecontrol you know what I mean
because we control who's able tomine crypto and all that type of
shit you know that shit issolely dependent on who has the
resources to be able to extractthe crypto yeah you know what I

(24:15):
mean who got the most computersand it still goes back to though
it's not backed by anythingTandy Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.

(24:47):
Bro, it's nasty fucking work.
I know some of them are backedby stuff, but those aren't as
popular as Bitcoin.
Bitcoin's the most popular one.
It's nasty fucking work.
Snoop is out here doing the workof white supremacy.
Bro, that's really what it iswhen you really look at it.
Because again, Snoop is notsmart enough to orchestrate the
shit by himself.
Snoop's a hard R.
I can't stand Snoop.

(25:07):
Snoop's a fucking dummy.
Snoop's a fucking dummy.
Okay?
He's doing the work.
He's doing the work of the whiteman.
He's doing the work of the whiteman.
He is.
He's doing the work of the whiteman, bro.
Snoop's definitely beensuspicious.
Just let Snoop be arepresentation.
There's hella artists out therewho still do things like that.

(25:29):
How come Snoop is being achanged man, bro?
Because we know, bro.
We've listened to Snoop's musicour whole life, nigga.
I'm almost 30.
I've listened to Snoop Doggsince I was born, nigga.
Snoop has been the same.
This is the same Snoop Dogg.
But what if he changed, bro?
What if he's older now?
This is the same Snoop Dogg.
He had grandkids.
This is the same Snoop Dogg,bro.
It was, what, only three yearsago he was cussing out old
ladies, bro.
But what if he changed?

(25:51):
Bro, because think about this,too.
I'm willing to accept a19-year-old changing, bro.
Somebody who's 25 and like,damn, I did some knucklehead
shit.
Snoop was cussing out old ladiesand he was 50.
Snoop was 50 cussing out oldladies, bruh.
That nigga AJ?
Come on, bruh.
That's who he is.
That's who he is.
I'm with you on this one.

(26:11):
I can't lie.
Come on, bruh.
Daya, I think you're right, bro.
Even...
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Snoop.
Yeah, it's sad.
Be cautious out there, man.
It's sad to see some people likethat, man, go out like that, you
know?
Yeah, because I feel like the...
What we've been talking aboutright now, it's two different
aspects of hip-hop.
I feel like when we talk aboutSnoop, it represents more of

(26:32):
just that corporatization andthe businesses trying to come
and slither their way intofucking hip-hop and music and
art.
And then we talk about JoeyBadass and Ray Vaughn to where
there still is some of thoseaspects of corporate greed and
shit like that.
Yeah, but again, it's morereliant on regional and cultural
art forms, bruh, as opposed totrying to sell us some shit

(26:54):
That's just corporate.
It just so happens that peopleare interested in bars because
of the battle last year.
So it's like, yeah, they stilldon't make money off this, but
it's really just bros and niggasgoing to booths, barring up.
I do appreciate that pointalways.
It is interesting how we get tothis point of hip-hop where of
course you want people to makemoney and be able to feed their

(27:15):
families, but at one point areyou just selling us bullshit.
So I'm like, yeah, that's true.
Because, bro, again, too, Ilisten to Snoop's music, bro.
I listen to his music.
You sound like he got money.
So I can't hear this excuse ofI'm just making music to feed my
family.
Nigga, I seen the cars.
I seen the MTV cribs, nigga.
I seen the way you're living.

(27:35):
That's what you showed me.
I seen the penthouse.
Yeah, that's not even me.
Pocket watch.
The compound.
What do you call it?
Yeah, the compound.
He called it the compound.
That nigga got a compound.
That's what he called it.
Talking about I got a rap tofeed.
He trying to make it seem likehe's a regular nigga like us
when he's not.
He's not.
Nigga, we got to do things tofeed our family.
Snoop's already done thosethings 30 years ago, and if he
squandered that money, if hesquandered that, that's on him,

(27:57):
bro.
I can't use, I can't hear thatas an excuse, though, bro.
Hey, nah, you got a point, bro.
Come on, bro.
You got a point.
Hey, news, hey.
ISO for news, bro.
You got a point.
Hey, honestly, we're going tokeep the hip-hop more, though.
Yeah, keep the hip-hop, bro.
Diddy Case ongoing.

SPEAKER_01 (28:21):
to

SPEAKER_02 (28:22):
get fired up right now but we're just yeah we're
just gonna keep it rolling browe're gonna keep it rolling bro
um the diddy case has been verygross um it's very nasty before
we i mean i don't know me andhim me and him don't argue a lot
i'm sorry guys i know you guyslike when we argue i've been
i've been hearing the feedbacky'all like when we disagree but

(28:43):
that's why we need a thirdperson on the pod bro that would
be all disagree but Maybe itmight feel the same way.
I know it's not Cassie versusDiddy.
It's Diddy versus the federalgovernment.
But the more stuff's coming out,Cassie was looking more
cooperative than we thought.
And like I said, the woman's noton trial.

(29:06):
It's not a Cassie case.
Cassie's not on trial.
Diddy's still a nasty man.
What we're going to talk aboutis not going to neglect what
Diddy did, you know?
But we're probably going toshine a light on Cassie's
participation, I guess,honestly, because I didn't
realize how, like, she was kindof into it at one point.
And I know the power, thestrength, the money, the fear.

(29:26):
I know that plays a part.
We're not naive.

SPEAKER_04 (29:28):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (29:29):
But...
Damn, bro.
I know she was like paying forlike searching for the freak off
sometimes.
Then she FaceTimed her.
It was nasty, man.
It was nasty.
She FaceTimed her new nigga, theold nigga.
And in terms of her husband,Diddy paid for him?
Did you hear about that?
That nigga used to be thetrainer and Diddy paid for him.

(29:49):
That nigga paid for him to beher trainer and she left the
castle with her new prince.
He rescued her.
He rescued her out the big badDiddy mansion.
Why you gotta say it like that?
What do you mean?
He rested at the big, at the bigmansion, bro.
Saved her, man.
From hundreds of gallons of babyoil.

(30:11):
Have you even seen the trial,bro?
Bro, I've only been tapped intobits and pieces because, bro,
it's dark, dude.
It's dark, bro.
It makes me feel uncomfortable,bro.
Like, really hearing some ofthat shit, bro, makes me
uncomfortable, dude.
How do you feel about it, dude?
Before we have some fun, how doyou feel about it?
It's dark, bro.
It's dark, and I feel like,again, two things can't be true

(30:32):
at once, too.
Is Diddy a fucking freak?

SPEAKER_03 (30:35):
Super.

SPEAKER_02 (30:36):
Yeah, you know?
Was he exploiting Cassie?
Yeah.
Was Cassie also willinglyengaging at some points in time?

SPEAKER_03 (30:45):
Yes.

SPEAKER_02 (30:45):
I think two things can be true.
I think it's all true.
And I feel like it goes to showlike Being in Hollywood, bro,
there's no, once you decide toplay with that darkness, bro,
there's no escape in thatdarkness.
Yeah, you're in it.
Yeah, you're in it.
You're in it, bro.
And that's what it sounds like.
Until you get saved.
Yeah, like, bro, she was beingexploited, but it's hard.

(31:06):
How do you talk about, you know,your exploitation when you're
participating in the darkness?
Bro, she said that became herjob.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Freak up a game, get a job.
And it makes me think about,again, when I ask these
questions on the earlier podsabout why don't these other
artists come out and speak aboutthese things.
Now we know why.
It makes me think, yeah, bro,they're living in the darkness.
Oh, they're scared.
You know?

(31:27):
Because I know Kid Cudi ain'tgot nothing to do with Diddy.
Diddy going to kill that nigga.
All these niggas are scared,though?
Come on, bro.
Yeah.
Like I said, bro, I've listenedto the music.
I've listened to the music.
Y'all not scared of niggas.
I think a lot of these, I thinkhalf these dudes is soft, bro.
I think music, look, he beexploiting niggas.
I mean, people always said Diddywas a gangster, but I guess now

(31:49):
we're really saying Diddy isreally a gangster.
He's doing gangster shit.
He was blowing up niggas' cars,hanging niggas off balconies.
He has niggas in fear oftheir...
Bro, he has people scared totalk.
He has people scared to talk.
To this day, Kid Cudi kind ofconfirmed it, but he still
really doesn't want to talkabout it.
Bro, the court has the factsright here and Kid Cudi's still

(32:09):
like, eh, you know.
That's why I'm like, are youstill scared, Cudi?
That nigga's in jail, bro.
Yeah.
So it is kind of shit, like Isaid.
Cassie, I know I can see herbeing scaredful, but like Newman
said, when some of these darkfacts come out, like, you know,
she was paying for the escorts,you know, she was helping them
fly some of these people out.
It became her job.

(32:30):
Yeah, I've seen shit, too.
Like, she was worried aboutlosing Diddy, so she felt like
she had to, like, go and,like...
do these things as a way to keephim, you know?
And that's where it's just like,damn, bro, that's what happens.
You know, you play in thatdarkness.
And like I said, I know she wasa little younger.
I know she's younger than Diddy,like, you know, 10, 15 years.
I know Diddy's definitelyexploiting her.
But it just sucks to see, like,it's kind of, I don't know, it's

(32:52):
like Stockholm or something.
I don't know, what do you callthat, man?
Because it's like, obviouslyI've never been in no crazy
abusive relationship or anythinglike that.
But I guess it's crazy, like, atevery turn, you kind of have an
opportunity to leave, and it'slike, this man puts so much fear
in.
And maybe you kind of did enjoythe freak off too, you know, at
the moment, wherever, until itgot a little too, until it got a
little too crazy.
Talk about too is like to acertain extent, these people do

(33:15):
enjoy the money and the fame.
Yeah.
To a certain extent, the moneyand the fame almost seems to
balance out all the dark shitthat they feel like they're
forced to do, you know?
So again, they make itsometimes.
Okay.
I'm not saying all the time, butsometimes they make it seem as
if like they had no otherchoice, you know, but in, To me,

(33:37):
I get the feeling that it's youguys enjoy the fame and the
money.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So it's not that you guys werelike, it's like, oh, we had no
other choice.
It's you guys have no otherchoice unless you want to
continue to live the lifestylesthat you're having.
Yeah.
You know?
You know, I kind of think aboutit, bro.

(33:57):
It's like...
It's kind of like being a wifeof like a dirty politician.
Melania Trump, bro.
I hate how they always try toframe her as like an innocent,
like, oh, she's just so caughtup in this bullshit.
That's kind of how I feel.
I mean, obviously, it's sexualwith them, but I feel like it's
like, you know what yourhusband's doing, you know what I

(34:18):
mean?
Yeah.
You know, you're enjoying thevacations.
You're enjoying the privatejets.
You're enjoying the kids goingto private school.
But I was like, why didn't yourhusband go to jail?
I was like, I didn't know he wasdoing this.
That's a good point.
And then it's like, oh, youdidn't know he was doing this?
Yeah.
you know you thought out ofnowhere he's a millionaire you
know what I mean you know soit's like I think that's kind of
what the mindset is like a dirtypolitician wife is like I know

(34:39):
this is wrong I know this isdirty but it's like I get money
out of it I get fame you'reliving good I'm living good you
know like yeah he might beabusing me a little bit but it's
like I feel like that's kind ofthe mindset and like I said
she's like 15 years younger thanDiddy so who knows what the fuck
he's promising her you know soit does just suck and it's like
Diddy is a freaky nigga, butit's like, damn, Cassie was kind
of like, look, he helping anigga, bro.

(35:00):
Like, she was looking at youlike, I'm not trying to put this
so much on her, but she was kindof his galane, bro.
You know?
She was kind of his galane in away, like.
So it was like, ah, man, Cassie.
I know she's not on trial, andI'm not trying to make this a
Cassie thing, but.
But yeah, that's, I feel likethey're doing that as a way to
kind of just sow that doubt.
Off of Diddy, yeah.
Yeah, you know, and really justlike.

(35:20):
nah diddy's still goofy as fuckdiddy's still goofy as of all
the all the crimes but it justis interesting like you get more
facts like i don't know it'sweird they make it seem like
diddy's just they're trying tomake it seem like diddy's just a
guy with a fetish and notsomebody who's actively sexually
exploiting yeah like and justlike nah this boy sexually yeah

(35:41):
bro he's just a dude who's intosome freaky stuff he was making
her go like buy prostitutes dogAnd then fucking, like, what was
the one?
One of the nastiest facts, Ithink, was, like, he would make
the dudes cum on her, and thenhe would make her rub the cum on
him.
Come on, bro.
I'm sorry.
I'm telling you, this is whyit's been, like, so hard for me

(36:02):
to, like, really follow.
Bro, that was the darkest thingI've ever heard in my life.
It is so dark, bro.
I said, nigga, what?
It's so dark.

UNKNOWN (36:08):
What?

SPEAKER_02 (36:10):
What did he do?
It makes me uncomfortable, bro.
I almost threw up.
My cereal.
And again, it still just leavesme with more questions, though.
Because again, too, I know it'salmost the same thing with
Snoop.
Or Diddy might actually besmart, though.
But I'm like, I know Diddy isn'tjust the head of this operation
or all the evil that's going onin Hollywood.

(36:32):
No, no, I think it's justdifferent.
Here's what I think happened.
I think the Diddy party, I thinkthe freak-offs were smaller than
we think.
Like, I don't think, like, thesex are part of the freak-offs.
I look at things, Diddy was justsex trafficking himself because
nigga Loki's just like agangster.
I think Diddy's like a pimp.
I look at things, Loki's like...
I think Loki and Diddy were justdoing prostitution, bro.

(36:55):
Which is illegal.
I look at Diddy just being apimp.
Like, all these other thingswe're trying to make it sound
like big, like, oh, he wastouching Bieber, you know,
execs.
I don't think it was that big.
but I do think this nigga wasgetting some, like, I do think
he was probably making Bieberhave sex with girl women, doing
weird shit, you know what Imean?
Probably making a 13-year-oldhave sex with a girl woman is
fucking weird, you know what Imean?

(37:16):
I think he was doing some weirdshit with Bieber, like, making
him do weird shit, but I don'tthink it was something like, I
think Diddy is a weird nigga,but I don't think it was, like,
this big, like...
scheme no more I can't lie Ithink Diddy was just like on
some gangster shit like nigga Igot money I got power if I want
10 bitches I fly home fromCalifornia I fly home from
Florida right here we gonna havesex all of us I got the baby oil
bitch Cassie shut up you knowwhat I mean you gonna do this

(37:38):
Cassie shut up bitch I controlyou I look at Diddy just on some
like crazy like I look at himjust on like some crazy money
how like everything I'm sayingis still illegal by the way it's
still sex trafficking it's stillyou know whatever He's getting
charged with, but I don't know.
I don't think there's some likebig exact thing no more.
I know, I know I used to thinkthat, but now I think, I think

(37:58):
those niggas are doing it ontheir own.
I think, I think those niggaswho were in charge of Diddy,
they're just having their ownsex parties, but Diddy's not,
Diddy's not invited to that sexparty.
Cause they don't like niggas.
They don't like niggas, let's bereal.
I saw a white sex party there.
So I'm like, the more I think,I'm like, I know, I know I did
want, I did think it was somelike big conspiracy thing, And

(38:19):
don't get me wrong.
I do think a lot of people wereat Diddy parties.
But it's like Denzel said, yougot to leave at a certain time,
bro.
Like Denzel said, you got toleave at a certain time, bro.
So...
I know we want to throw Hov inthere and Beyonce.
Who was there, bro?
No.
Hov was there.
Jay Alec was there.
I already know.
Bro, your favorite rapper wasthere.

(38:39):
My favorite rapper was there,bro.
No, they weren't.
I know.
They weren't, bro.
They weren't.
Get comfortable with that idea,bro.
I don't think so, man.
I think so.
I don't think those niggas likeDiddy as much as we think
because they know this abouthim.
I know Jay Alec likes Diddy asmuch as he thinks.
He said it in the music.
He does love Diddy.
Okay, I definitely don't thinkHov likes Diddy as much as we
think.
Maybe.
Maybe.
Maybe.
I'll give that one'squestionable.

(39:01):
Jay-E-Lek?
Jay-E-Lek's compromised.
He do love Diddy.
He do love Diddy.
Bro, he loves Diddy, and hemarried a fucking billionaire,
dude.
He did marry a billionaire.
Jay-E-Lek is probably in somedark shit.
Not Jay-E-Lek, bro.
I love Jay-E-Lek.
You got bars, though.
You got bars.
That's supposed to be one of ourold black leaders.
That's what sucks, bro.

(39:22):
You see, hey, everyone's astrong black leader to some
glass of milk come in thepicture, bro.
Ah, bro.
Some money and some milk.
That's really what it was.
I still got Malcolm X killed.
Money and milk.
Stop, bro.
Nah, I'm playing, bro.
R.I.P.
the goat.
R.I.P.
Malcolm X.
Keep it black, though.

(39:44):
The largest plantation left inAmerica did burn down.
Did you see that?

SPEAKER_04 (39:48):
Yes, I did.

SPEAKER_02 (39:50):
How'd you feel about that, dude?
I guess it was a resort.
I think it was a plantationresort.
How do you feel about it?
Honestly, I'm always just sopissed off every time I see that
type of shit is even stillaround, and it's not like a
museum.
If you're not using that shit tospread historical knowledge and
make sure it's accurate, bro.
Hey, back to Dr.
Umar.

(40:10):
I'm telling you, it's an act oferasure, bro.
Because dude, I watched thisclip today, right?
And they were trying to frame itas if like, so the people who
run the plantation, they frameit as if, no, the slaves were
happy here.
You know, they loved it here.
They said, matter of fact, youknow, some descendants of the
enslaved actually work here atthe plantation.

(40:31):
Like still to this day?
Yeah.
But the thing is, thedescendants of the enslaved,
okay, are white people now.
That's the point.
That's how they go and they tryto confuse you with you not
knowing the history.
Wait, wait, wait.
They used to be black and theygot mixed out?
Yes, yes.
That's what it is.
So again, you have somebody, orthink about this.
It's like sinners, the 1A black.

(40:52):
Not even that.
You have somebody who's themaster of the plantation goes,
have sex with one of the slaves.
It's rape because they can'tconsent.
Okay, after that, okay, he...
Was a white person?
Yeah, that child, you know, theycould either go and sell him off
or they could still have himaround the house doing types of
jobs and shit.
That's where we get the idea ofhouse slave from.

(41:12):
You're the house slave because,you know, you're not as...
you're not as outdoorsy as thefield Negroes, you know what I
mean?
You're a little cleaner.
And then you're the master's kidon top of that.
Yeah, exactly.
And then again, in the future,once slavery ends, you know,
they go and they have sex with awhite woman, then you have
somebody who's white passing.
Once you're octorooned, or abunch of room, you're white

(41:33):
passing now.
So it's not people that looklike me and you that work in
there.
No, but they frame it like that.
I thought it was niggas workingthere.
And that's how they try to makeit seem.
They try to make it seem likeit's just a bunch of smiley
niggas eating watermelon friedchicken and working at the
plantation.
When in reality, it's amotherfucker who looks like...

(41:56):
Like logic.
Like logic.
Or even lighter.
Lighter than logic, maybe.
But logic at the most.
That's the blackest they'llprobably look.
Like Alex Caruso.
Yeah.
Alex, bro, that's the blackestthey'll look is logic.
And that's who they're talkingabout.
Oh, the descendants.
They're having a great timeworking.
Yeah.
They're having a great time.
And it's like, yeah, becausethat's a white guy.
That's what they're doingnowadays, bro.
They're like, oh, we gotdescendants of enslaved people
who work here.
And it's a white boy.

(42:17):
They got us, bro.
I thought for sure it was ablack guy having fun.
Like showing people around.
Like, yeah, my ancestors livedhere.
It's a white guy.
You know, just imagine that.
They're talking.
about my ancestors, a white dudelooked like Shia LaBeouf.
It's Shia LaBeouf.
Never met his black ancestors.
Got one picture of them in thehouse somewhere.
You look so happy.
Yeah, and that's the thing.

(42:38):
If you were probably like, oh,you know, my grandpa was black
and you see a picture of theirgrandpa, it's probably like a
Blake Griffin type, bro.
Like, damn, he's black.
And it's like, yeah, I can kindof see it.
Where'd the black come from?
Yeah.
Oh, slavery.
Bam.
But no, that's what they'redoing.
Oh, so they tricked me.
They got me.
And they do it like this.
So think about this, bro.
They're not lying.
That's not a lie that they told.
Yeah, it's the truth.

(42:58):
It's the truth.
Yeah, it's a half truth.
So that's, oh man, it's just soimportant, bro, that we really
go and we get a broad spectrumof media, bro.
Because again, I wouldn't haveknown that unless I seen a
TikTok video.
No, I wouldn't have known that.
I'm being honest.
I seen that on TikTok orsomething.
I never would have known that.
I was like, what?
What?

UNKNOWN (43:16):
What?

SPEAKER_02 (43:17):
I never would have known that, bro.
Yeah, and it's just crazy, bro,because you have two...
It's interesting because youhave two ways you could go about
that, bro.
So you have that plantation,which frames it as happy slaves,
right?
Then you have other plantationsthat are museums and work as
historical sites.
People get murdered at those,right?
No, that's the resort one.
The other ones that arehistorical sites, those are ones
that people walk through andactually tell you what the fuck

(43:39):
happened.
It's dark, bro.
They don't sugarcoat the shit,though.
They show you the cabins and allthe shit.
It's all still there?
Yeah, bro.
They show you all that shit.
They don't sugarcoat it.
The chambers, all that?
Yeah, they show you all that.
The master bedroom in White'scalled the master bed.
They show you all that.
They show you that.
And again, there's two routes.
And again, I've never been to aplantation in my life.
When you go the resorty route,bro, again, there's a level of

(44:01):
like responsibility that you'renot taking that needs to be had,
bro.
And I feel like that's theproblem with it is again, you're
not taking responsibility andnow you're making money off of
slaves still.
To this day.
To this day.
You're still making money offthe enslaved.
Because think about this, bro.
The people who built that cabin,because this was one of the

(44:24):
largest plantations in theSouth, I think.
Yeah, I think so.
The people who built that, theirancestors who worked to build up
the wealth to afford that,they're not getting anything.
They're not getting anything.
But the white people are payingit for something.

(45:06):
And that's what it does rightthere when you open up those
plantations for weddings andvenues like that.
Pictures and stuff.
Yeah, you are not properlyreimbursing people for the
sacrifices that their ancestorsmade.
So we need reparations?
We need reparations.
Yes, but reparations...

(45:26):
not money reparations.
Like land?
No, we need infrastructurereparations.
So think about this, bro.
Hey, nah, here we go again.
Dr.
Umar is right.
God damn it.
We need infrastructurereparations, bro, because, yes,
niggas will squander some money,but do we also need money as
well?
Break it down.
Yes, niggas do need money, butwe need infrastructure.
So the way they destroyed theseblack communities back in the

(45:48):
day, right, they didn't justsimply, like, some of them got
burnt down, right?
Yeah, yeah, straight up.
Some of these, but in a moreprogressive era in the 70s and
80s, when they were destroyingthese black communities, they
were building railroads throughthe communities.
They was building freewaysthrough the community.
Now you got to sell it.
Yes.
So now you have to sell theland.
Okay.
And I think about this too.
And I think about, I'm alwayspromoting high speed rail on the

(46:10):
pod.
We're always talking about, youknow, you know, different forms
of infrastructure.
I think about, I better becareful what I wish for, because
if we did get it, they'dprobably build it through a
black or Mexican neighborhood.
I didn't even think about that.
That's what they do.
I can't lie.
So when we talk aboutreparations, we need reparations
that are built in.
We need the type of reparationsthat, again, you need city

(46:33):
permits to break down.
Like, we need, like, a littleAfrican-American.
Yeah, like, think about this,bro.
A lot of, like, some blackcommunities in the South, bro,
they had, like, bridges builtover them and shit, right?
You can't just get rid of abridge now.
Oh, they're supposed to floodthe town.
Yeah, once the bridge is there,you need special, like, permits
and shit like that and votes totake shit down after that.

(46:54):
So they're staying there.
So it's staying there.
It's staying there.
It's staying there, and it can'tget squandered off by one
person.
messing up or something or oneperson just, oh, they blew all
their money.
So we need infrastructure that'sgoing to help black people.
And how can we not have a littleAfro-America?
We don't.
I've been thinking about that.
I can't lie.
It pisses me off.
No, and it shouldn't be Afro-That sounds stupid.

(47:14):
That sounds stupid.
Because again, too, we have tobe careful in not letting this
country try to group all blackgroups within black Americans.
I'm going to say this again.
Being a black American, we'reblack we're both black is both a
race and an ethnicity for us.
Okay.
So think about this.
Okay.
A Jamaican is black racially.

(47:36):
Yeah.
Okay.
He's ethnically Jamaican.
Hmm.
Okay?
We're black racially, but we'realso black American.
We can't identify as AfricanAmericans

SPEAKER_04 (47:47):
because,

SPEAKER_02 (47:47):
again, we're not from Africa.
Bro, our ancestors built thiscountry.
We're not from Africa.
We're not from Africa.
As a matter of fact, bro, for aslong as white people have been
here in America, niggas havebeen here.
But they don't tell us that.
They don't tell us that.
Hey, honestly, I'm mad at you.
Hey, my nigga, I can't lie.
You knew me.
You had a point earlier.
History is important.
History is important, dude.

(48:09):
I can't lie.
History's important.
I was trying to get a podmoment.
I'm sorry, Newt.
It's the most important, bro.
I should let you get your shitoff.
That's the point.
And so when you talk aboutreparations, bro, we need
infrastructure, bro.
We need the type of things thatcan't be burnt down, bro.
That can't be squandered by oneperson's incompetence, bro.
We need some shit to where it'slike, nigga, you had to have a

(48:31):
whole town vote to do this.
The same way you have to have awhole town vote to put up a
freeway or something like that.
Or to decide to build a railroadin a certain spot, bro.
That's true.
You know?
That is true.
Or even a park.
Like, I recently seen thisTikTok.
Did you know Central Park in NewYork used to be like a black
community?
I just learned about that nottoo long ago.
And they built a park there.

(48:51):
I saw a little YouTube video.
I first saw a clip, but I had towatch a video on it.
Bro, I didn't realize how bigthat park was, number one.
And that's the type ofinfrastructure we need.
The type of shit to where youcan't take down.
Bro.
And we need that primarily forblack folks.
How do we get that, though?
Again, we need to have a...
I know we need, like you said,the voices earlier.
But how do we infiltrate theactual government, bro?

(49:13):
You think it's impossible?
No.
First things first, bro.
What is going on in Africa rightnow is important.
What's going on?
What happens in Africa right nowand...
African countries beingsuccessful is important to
black.
We talked about last week withthe France and stuff.
Okay.
So them being successful isdirectly is important for us.
Cause think about this.
All the ethnic groups that getrespect in this country have

(49:36):
strong foundations in their homecountry.
Okay.
So when we think about, again,yes, there's some Asian hate out
here.
Okay.
But there's not systemic levelsof Asian hate.
There's not systemic levels oflike Chinese exclusion.
There is, there's some, but it'snot as strong as Americans would
make it if China wasn't as bigof a superpower as they are.

(49:59):
Yeah, because again, China isnot going to let you just sit
here and disrespect ChineseAmericans.
Although they're Americans,they're still Chinese and
they're still a reflection ofus.
You're not going to sit here andgo and do that.
And that's how it works with alot of these other countries as
well.
The ethnic groups that getrespect here, they're countries
at home.
But how does that work for us,though?

(50:20):
So we need to make sure thatAfrica gets built up to where
it's seen as respectable andpowerful.
So where, again, because what'shappening right now in Burkina
Faso right now, they're offeringfree citizenship to black
Americans.
You don't have to do nothing.
You could go out there and getcitizenship.
Yeah, and again, that doesn'tsound appealing right now

(50:40):
because Africa still needs toget built up.
But if Africa's strong, that'sscary, bro.
Because again, black Americansare responsible for like
trillions of dollars of wealthin

SPEAKER_03 (50:49):
America.

SPEAKER_02 (50:50):
Yes, and again, and a lot of our power, and a lot of
our power isn't just money it'sthe culture that we bring along
with us which is sports musicentertainment true you know what
i mean that's all us bro we havethe monopoly on that they can't
do that shit without us you gota point bro they can't do that
shit without you got a point newi know I know I was trying to be
funny earlier, but I know yourpro-blackness is real.

(51:13):
I know I was being funnyearlier, dude.
But I'm like, nah, I know youreally stand for this shit.
That's why I'm like, nah, it'strue, though.
I think we definitely need blackinfrastructure, dude.
I was driving the other day, Isaw Little Arabia, you know, and
I was like, damn.
And it makes me jealous, bro.
It makes me so jealous, bro.
It makes me so jealous, bro.
I always go and I go to, like,these, like, Korean food spots

(51:33):
with Christina, bro, and theygot, bro, it's hella just
Korean-owned businesses, bro.
They got banks.
They got Jewelry stores,shopping centers, restaurants.
I'm like, where the fuck isschools, nigga?
Schools to where they go, andthey're teaching Korean kids,
bro, keeping their culturealive, nigga.
I wish we learned some kind ofAfrican language.

(51:53):
It makes me so jealous that wedon't have that, bro.
Honestly, I don't know.
i guess this is why i getfrustrated and i know we're
circling back to something thatonly half of it's gonna be on
the pot but this is why i getfrustrated with dr umar and just
guys like him it's because ifeel like they can actually i
know they spread the word thoughi know uh history is important i
know it's being funny history isimportant i know all this is

(52:14):
important but i guess this iswhy i get mad at the like you
said the rich like the dittiesthe the the hoves the snoops you
know what i mean because it'slike bro um they can come up
together and help, you know?
Yeah, they can.
They can easily come together.
That's why I do get mad whenit's like, you do have some
guys, you know, trying to spreadthe word, but it's like people
who actually have the money andlike the infrastructure to do
it.
It's like either they'restruggling and jiving or it's

(52:36):
like, yeah, they're going tohelp, but like they need 15%,
you know?
And it's like, I know we like toshit on Bron, but Bron took his
own money and made a school.
Bron didn't wait on nobody.
And I salute Bron, bro.
You know, I know some peoplelike to boo, but Bron took his
own money and made that schooland never looked back.
So it was like, like we talkedabout earlier, it's the
certifications, you know what Imean?
The certifications.
To validate it to people who arenon-black, you know, people who

(52:58):
are non- Educated black peopleare scary people, you know what
I mean?
That's a scary person.
I know I'm trying to get a podmoment, but fine.
We're going to reel in and beserious.
Educated black people areactually a very healthy
community.
And I think, too, even back to,like, integration and all this,
too.
Again, back in the day when wethink about richer black folks,

(53:18):
they lived in black communities.
They just lived on a differentside of the black community.
We don't do that no more.
In the upper class area, butthey still lived.
It's still like that in theSouth, too, though.
It's still like that in theSouth.
Like, the richer neighborhoods,it's still more.
mostly black you know like yousaid or at least they try to
keep it black I know right nowit's a different time uh it's
funny funny you said I wastalking about that with my dad
bro uh where my grandpa house isat my dad was saying all the

(53:39):
black folks used to live on theblock though uh it's getting
re-gentrified yeah like he'ssaying like the young white
people are moving in like peoplewho are like you know like
they're uh early 30s you knowwhat I mean they're late 20s
like they're moving in withtheir families now and it's
funny me and my dad were talkingabout that bro because uh I
guess my dad wanted this lot,you know what I mean, this whole
time, right?
It was right next to mygrandpa's house.

(54:00):
It's been an empty lot my wholelife, bro.
It's been an empty pot of glassmy whole life since I remember.
My dad always told my sisters,his sisters, my aunts, like, oh,
no, try to find about that lot,you know, try to find about that
lot.
They never did the work, youknow what I mean?
Then my dad went out there.
Guess who lives in that lot now?

SPEAKER_04 (54:15):
white

SPEAKER_02 (54:16):
family, bro.
So, I know I was trying to get apie moment earlier, but the shit
Dr.
Umar says is real, bro, becauseit's like, as black folks, bro,
I wish some people were educateddown there to be like, nah, but
we really should get that a lot.
Like, bro, like, This is ourfamily's land.
They had, you know, like we ownthis, bro.
And it's like, it's such a, likeyou said, like we get
re-gentrified, bro.
White people come in and catchus when we're down.

(54:38):
Somebody got to sell the house,you know what I mean?
They caught us at a bad moment.
And it's not even that theycatch us, bro.
They designed it to be bad.
Yeah, they designed it for youto struggle to where, damn, one
missed paycheck or something,one injury, nigga.
Yeah, that house is mine.
That house is mine.
So it sucks when, bro, we goback and it's like, I remember
being a kid, bro, in that wholeneighborhood being black, you
know what I mean?
Everyone being black, beingblack.

(54:59):
Shit, and now I'm almost 30, andI go back, and it's not, bro.
It's not all black no more.
So I'm like, nah, it's justreal, bro.
If those people knew, you knowwhat I mean, about the game,
like you said, bro,education-wise, how to move
around, you know what I mean,some of those fucking snakes.
Because again, too, what thewhite folks are doing, they're
not doing anything differentthan what I've just been saying
about building up the block.

(55:20):
They're still taking the sameblack community and just
building it up.
Just building it up.
The houses are more, and thehouses are more.
And it's like, bro, niggas livedhere for...
60 years, man, you know what Imean?
And now it's out of nowhere.
It's like, oh.
But it's by design, though, too,because when we talk about
gentrification, that's also,it's a political thing, bro.
It doesn't just happenindividually.

(55:41):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.
Yeah, it just so happened all 10houses got sold.
Yeah, you know, there's apolitics behind that, bro, and
there's a push to try to makecertain areas, you know, almost
just, like, terrible to live in,you know, like, inhabitable, you
know, to the point wheresomebody will sell.
Now it's like, oh, now we'll.
Now you got a brand new Walmart.
Yeah.
yeah security room and that'swhat they did to a lot of these

(56:01):
places back in the dayespecially new york you know
when you think about like it'scrazy to watch like tiktoks now
and see like brooklyn's justlike this gentrified yeah like
two years ago three years agoyeah it was it was a little
gentrified it was gentrified butit's still it's still going on
yeah it's just interesting tothink about like bro they're
living in the areas where likeniggas was rapping about selling

(56:24):
crack and shit back in the daybro you know what i mean and
they and those areas just got sorun down it's crazy not putting
money into it to the point whereit's like white people could go
in there now and they just seeit as like a fixer-upper that's
starbucks yeah starbucks yep nowand then once they start getting
some properties in there thenthe goal becomes how do we get
the rest of these niggas notpretty much dude and i think
that's why i'd be so passionatesometimes when people say stuff

(56:47):
about like black people's likebro Words have meaning, you know
what I mean?
I know the stereotype of blackman is lazy, bro.
Black man don't do this, blackman do that.
So I guess I hate when justpeople talk about black because
it's like, bro, I didn't wantthat stereotype to be out there
because it's already out there,you know what I mean?
So it's like, bro, niggasalready think we're lazy.
So it's like, if someone who'spro-black is like shitting on
black companies, it's like, youthe last leg for us, you know

(57:09):
what I mean?
You the last stand for people tolook at us seriously.
So they definitely gonna takeblack business seriously now.
And I get what he was trying todo, but I think that's why I was
just like, bro, they alreadylook at us like, You know what I
mean?
They're already looking at uslike, you know what I mean?
As a nigga who, you don't got abust cut, they look at you
weird.
You got tattoos.
And we live in California, soit's like, as a nigga trying,

(57:30):
you want a corporate job,they're already looking at you
crazy.
So you gotta come 10 minutesearly, like Newman said earlier.
Because we're already talkingabout, we're going to be late.
So it do suck.
It do just suck.
People look at us that way.
that's just natural though butlike you said sometimes you
gotta build black communitiesthough yeah and so you gotta
deal with that the opportunitiesnow bro the times now to where
we shouldn't have to depend onthese institutions to educate us

(57:53):
anyways right we shouldn't haveit's it's it's on us now to
really take control and and dothe educating ourselves like
dude one thing i learned fromcollege the information is out
there dog the information is outthere for us like we said off
mic though it's just thecredentials that school yeah
because you're smart already butpeople are expecting more and
they're like oh you You got tobe honest.
Yeah, you got a degree.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

(58:13):
But again, the information's outthere for everybody.
I was like, without the degree,no one would still be a smart
person.
But it's the degree.
It's the truth, though.
It adds a certain level of like,ooh, you know?
But it's just like...
Nigga's going to be like, oh,hold up.
He really mean it.
Like, okay.
Yeah, but really, all the degreesymbolizes to...
Hard work.
It's hard work, but I thinkabout it like this, okay?

(58:33):
So I think about...
It's hard work.
There's this one phrase thatalways sticks in my mind, bro.
It's not an army phrase.
No, no, no.
So they were talking to...
some NBA players right this waslike an interview they were
doing some NBA players and theywere asking them like oh do you
think like somebody from likethe and one league can make it
to the NBA and niggas joked itoff like nah bro he was like

(58:54):
we're professionals dog he saidwe play basketball in the days
we don't feel like playingbasketball and that is what
separates anybody and whateverfield that they're in from the
people who aren't like subjectmatter experts bro you know you
do things or you work on theknowledge on the days you don't
feel like doing it or you go andyou practice the knowledge that

(59:15):
isn't interesting to you youknow and that's all the degree
symbolizes is that i was able tostay in some classes that i
might not have even wanted tolearn about he's cooking you
know but again i stayed in itand i learned and i had that's
how i worked though bro andhaving to actively engage with
material that you don't agreewith yeah and you're not
interested in that's it rightthere that's the playing

(59:36):
basketball in the days you don'tfeel like playing basketball
wait what would he got you tothat you know It's just
discipline, bro.
But again, that same level ofdiscipline, you can apply to
anything.
Okay.
You can have that outside ofthis outside of the classroom,
bro.
It just, again, it's thediscipline though.
It's the knowing that you haveto read this book or you have to
consume some information thatdoesn't sit right with you.

(59:57):
That you don't necessarily wantto read or it's boring.
That's true.
Like, bro, for example, thislast class that I took, okay.
I took history ofpsychopathology, bro.
I just took that class, bro.
The whole fucking semester, bro.
We're supposed to be learningabout, you know, the history of
psychopathology is like, what isthe cause of like mental

(01:00:17):
illnesses and stuff like that?
I mean, and what triggers it andwhat is considered like normal
mental health?
I don't ask you too much aboutthat stuff.
You study this.
Yeah.
So again, dude, what I'velearned, the main takeaway from
all that, bro, is all that shitis completely subjective, right?
what do you mean nothing inpsychology there is no universal
truth seriously psychology nomultiple things can be true at

(01:00:41):
the same time you know what imean and at the same time too
could also not be true at all sofor example right when we think
about bro when we think aboutdepression right so think about
something as depression okaythere's multiple ways to analyze
what causes depression so youcould say let's say there's like
a biological model rightsomebody who's using the

(01:01:03):
chemical imbalances in thebrain.
Okay.
But let's say you believe in thesociocultural model.
Okay.
Then you believe depression iscaused by like inadequate social
relationships and stuff.
So you're not getting your needsmet properly by like people in
your family or people that youdepend on.
It makes you depressed.
Yeah.
So it makes you depressed.

(01:01:24):
Okay.
And the thing is, both of thosetheories are correct.
Okay.
They're correct simultaneously,you know what I mean?
People either believe one or theother.
Yeah, and sometimes people tryto use it like, no, only biology
is the whole, like, is the thingthat could universally explain
everything.
Okay, that makes sense.
The social cultural model is theonly thing that could explain
everything.

(01:01:45):
But that's not the truth.
But it's not, but there's, bro,there's a lot of different
models to explain.
like one phenomenon, you knowwhat I mean?
Which would be like depression.
You could have like 10 differentmodels to explain one thing and
all those models could besomewhat correct.
Like they have correctinformation.
So yeah, you can be depressedbecause you have certain
chemical imbalances in yourbrain.

(01:02:06):
But at the same time, maybe thefood that you eat in your
environment, you know, triggersthose chemical imbalances in
your brain.
So again, both of those thingsare correct simultaneously.
So it's...
Being in school, bro, I'velearned to really sit with like
information and stuff like that.
And really you learn like.

(01:02:30):
Certain things can apply, youknow, and when you think that
something might not apply, itmight still apply too.
You just have to kind of twistyour mind around.
So I'm going to take it back tomy last class history of
psychopathology.
Right.
So we learned about the historyof like mental illness and how
people suspect that it starts.
Right.
The only groups of people thatwe learned about were white

(01:02:51):
folks.
Okay.
So again, it's correct.
Maybe when they're talking aboutmental illnesses and stuff like
that, there's certain thingsthat, um, or, or certain Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.

(01:03:20):
We didn't talk about niggasonce.
Seriously?
We didn't talk about any otherrace plus white people?
We talk about white folks thewhole time.
Not Hispanic?
Asian?
Nope.
And we talk about white folksthe whole time, right?
And we learn about what theyused to do and how they would
incarcerate people who were likedeemed, you know, as who had
like madness and shit like that.
What they're saying is true forthem.

(01:03:42):
But now, you can't apply thethings that you learn or the
history of psychopathology andsay that that's universal among
humans.
You can't say that that's humannature.
It's the things, again, all itshowed me Okay, so people want

(01:04:04):
to talk about Newman.
You're always making it aboutrace.
No, no, no, this is real shit.
I just sat in a class for fourmonths and just listened to
somebody make it about race.
It just wasn't about my race.
And that's the takeaway, though.
And what it shows me is that,bro, we're dealing with some
diabolical fuckers, bro.
We're dealing with somediabolical people.
So not once they mention anon-white person.
Not once.

(01:04:25):
Not once, bro.
Again, so think about this, bro.
We talked about for a while, oneof the main things that you talk
about is insane asylums, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
How people were treated ininsane asylums and the history
behind or what would triggercertain reforms to make people
want to improve the conditionsof people in insane asylums.
and stuff like that, right?
You know why they can't talkabout niggas in the same

(01:04:46):
asylums?
Because they didn't put niggasin the same asylums.
They put you in slavery.
They put you in slavery.
Wait, what, a mental illness?
There is no mental illness.
They never studied us.
Mental illness is only, again,you have to be white to have a
mental illness.

SPEAKER_03 (01:05:02):
Wait, nah, nigga, hold

SPEAKER_02 (01:05:03):
up, bro.
That's how it's defined.
Wait, what do you mean, dog?
That is how it's projectedthere.
That is their logic back in theday, bro.
So we weren't put in the sameasylums?
Yeah.
Black people were not put in thesame asylums back in the day.
They weren't put in jail either.
They didn't end up in asylums orjail until slavery ended.
Because again, once slaveryended, then you can't just put

(01:05:25):
them, you can't make them as aslave as punishment anymore.
So now you need institutions asa way to lock up niggas.
Black people were mentallyillness?
Yeah, bro, they didn't, and evenwhen they did start putting
black people in asylums, bro,they weren't treated the same,
and you were put in segregatedasylums.
Away from white people?
Yes, yes.

(01:05:45):
Even, bro, you were segregatedeven in mental health, bro.
Even the crazies weresegregated, bro.

UNKNOWN (01:05:51):
Man.

SPEAKER_02 (01:05:51):
So again, when I learn about allthe, or when I see the
institutions now, bro, this wasfour months.
And they didn't mention not onenon-black, not white person.
Bro, they didn't mention niggasonce.
I had to do my own research.
That's insane, dog.
I did my own research on the, sowe were assigned a 10-page
research paper that we had totype up, right?
I decided, The whole time, I wasjust wondering, what were niggas

(01:06:14):
doing during this time?
You did it on black people?
Yeah, that's what I did.
So again, and again, too.
That's why you graduated honors,nigga.
Bro, I did.
I did.
Because I know niggas aren'twriting about the shit I'm
writing about, bro.
So what I wrote about was thisdisease called drapedomania,
right?
And it was one of the few mentalillnesses that they said black
people could have.
What was it?
And drapedomania, they said youwere crazy.

(01:06:36):
They diagnosed you withdrapedomania.
if you were consistently tryingto escape from being enslaved.
What?
Yes, so they deemed trying toescape slavery as a mental
illness.
Yes, as a mental illness.
So again, bro, what it showsnow, again, is people are using
the labels of psychiatry, thelanguage of psychiatry and
medicine and science as a way toenact racism.

(01:07:00):
That's crazy, bro.
They're using the words ofscience and the language of
science as a way todiscriminate.
Yes, this was 1800s, bro.
This was 1800s.
So again, I think about this andhow does that apply to modern
day?
Whenever people try to say thatthings are objective or they're
neutral, they're And there's notype of bias.
There's always a bias.
There's a bias.
There's always a bias there,bro.

(01:07:22):
Somebody made it.
And most likely it wasn'tniggas.
So there's always going to be abias there, bro.
And that, bro, just to kind ofwrap it up, bro.
I'm being funny.
It just kills me, bro, becauseit just shows unless...
It's because I have thisbackground, though, and already
being curious in black issues.
If you don't have that alreadyjust curiosity, bro, you could
have sat through that wholeclass and not asked any

(01:07:44):
questions of substance, bro.
Didn't do any critical thinkingof where we're niggas.
Bro, see, this is why I got toask you, all right?
We keep digging deep, bro.
You put me on to this, bro.
We know we've been seeing, wasit the American Congress was
thinking about having a show forimmigrants to win their
citizenship?

UNKNOWN (01:08:03):
Woo!

SPEAKER_02 (01:08:03):
to win their citizenship, right?
How dystopian is that, bro?
You're the main nigga who triedto tell me, and honestly, I
didn't want to believe you, bro.
You told me this a few yearsago.
Honestly, Newt told me about twoyears ago that America was going
to come like a dystopia, and Ilooked at him dead in the eyes
like, no.
I said, no, it's not, bro.
You tripping, bro.
It's America, bro.
I said, you tripping, bro.

(01:08:23):
We live good.
He said, do you?
And, bro, here we are, dog.
Am I really about to watchniggas fight for citizenship on
TV?
At that point, am I any betterthan the people I'm talking
about on this mic?
It's Hunger Games type of shit,bro.
I'm no better than the peopleI'm talking about, bro.
I'm no better.
I'm just as bad now.
So honestly, man, Newman was100% right.

(01:08:44):
Newman said this in a pod twoyears ago, bro.
America's in a sick place.
I don't want to believe him.
Bro, Hunger Games type of shit,dude.
I don't want to believe you,bro.
I didn't, dog.
I didn't want to believe you,bro.
nigga two years later we'restraight in it okay so some
background right bro there'sthere's talks of creating a tv

(01:09:04):
show about that's some real shittoo about ice okay and pretty
much making immigrants competefor for citizenship or a winner
gets citizenship that's crazyand it's just dude okay What it
made me think about right now, Iknow we talked about it on one.

(01:09:24):
I think we talked about on oneof the past episodes that the
rise in reality TV is due tothese companies trying to be
super profitable and they don'twant to have to pay people.
Yep.
So there's been a push.
Yeah.
So there's been a very big push.
$20 check.
Yeah.
For reality TV.
Yeah.
Cause it's a one-time payment.
You can give somebody 20 bands.
Yeah.
And a motherfucker, bro, thestudio done made$200 billion.

(01:09:47):
Aaron, the plumber.
Yeah.
Aaron, the plumber, bro.
Every episode.
Aaron, the plumber.
So I think about this on an evennastier level, bro, that again,
bro, they're using free laborfrom these immigrants via
entertainment.
That's labor at that point now,too.
Entertainment now, you know, forcitizenship, bro.
We're watching people getexploited.

(01:10:10):
In front of our faces, bro.
Yeah, we're watching people getexploited.
It's the same way when I talkedabout 60 Days In on the last
pod, bro, when I watched thoseprison shows.
They just couldn't afford bail.
Yeah, we're watching people getexploited, bro, and they don't
get paid any money.
I didn't know that about that,bro.
I thought those were real peoplein there.
Like real people who areactually committing crimes.
I know some people are honestlynot even guilty.
Some of them are just waitingsentencing, bro.

(01:10:30):
Some of them are just waiting tosee a judge.
I'm like, damn, bro.
That's embarrassing.
Honestly, I feel bad.
I'm like, we consume that shit.
Yeah, and we watch it forentertainment, bro.
And I'm like, damn, I can't waitfor the next season.
I hope they don't catch on tothese niggas.
I think that's why I say thattype of entertainment is just
not the same.
It's not the same.
Think about What that does todesensitize in us, bro.

(01:10:51):
Yeah.
You know?
Prison's a joke to us.
It's a joke.
We make jokes about it.
Don't drop the soap, nigga.
When in reality, that's a crazything to say to somebody.
Bro, I can't even imagine, dog.
That's a crazy thing to say.
My manhood being taken.
Yeah, that's a crazy thing tosay.
Because some niggas really hadto go to jail.
Yeah.
And they really had to deal withthat.
And again, it's that idea, too,that we know that that's what
happens in there.

(01:11:11):
And we're cool with it.
Because they deserve it.
They committed a crime.
They committed a crime.
Yeah, we lie to ourselves and wesay that people deserve it.
They don't, bro.
But like I said, like I justsaid, what I learned in school,
bro, if the idea of mentalillness is subjective, so is the
idea of being a criminal.
You can always shift or reframewhat being a criminal means.

(01:11:32):
I literally, bro, what theyalways say, he was crazy.
He didn't mean it.
He didn't mean to shoot thosepeople up.
Come on, dude.
He was mentally ill.
So he's mentally ill.
He didn't mean to rob a store.
Yeah.
You can always reframe it, dude.
And that's the thing, too.
And even beyond that, bro, a lotof them people in jail, bro,
they're only criminals becausethe way we frame it is, oh, we
see it as crime.
We see people using drugs ascrime.

(01:11:53):
That's not crime.
That's not crime.
They're doing drugs.
I would want to do drugs, too,if I didn't have a place to
live.
Nigga, think about how warmalcohol keeps you.
Of course I'm drinking when I'mliving on the street.
This nigga's crazy, dawg.
Of course I'm drinking.
Nigga, I'm trying to get toasty.
You right, though.
Are you kidding me?
Nigga, I need a little heroin.
Yeah, and dude, that's one ofthe things I learned in one of
my psych classes, too, thatthere's, like, when you do

(01:12:16):
certain studies, bro, it'salmost sometimes you can't draw
certain conclusions to things,bro.
So I'm specifically thinkingabout this idea of, like, we
associate being...
Or we think like, oh, thisperson's homeless because they
do drugs.
A lot of people end up doingdrugs after they become
homeless.
Yeah, you know what I mean?
A lot of people don't becomehomeless because they were

(01:12:36):
drunk.
And it's funny, too.
I feel like as Americans, we alljust envision the dude on the
street just dirty, but it'slike, bro, people live in their
cars that are homeless.
They have full jobs.
And it's like, bro, maybe talkto some people, bro.
You realize all homeless lookthe same.
And it's like, dude live in hiscar, but got a full-time job at
the grocery store.
Just can't afford rent.
that dude's home yeah bro he'shomeless you know i mean he got

(01:12:59):
a full-time job but it's likeit's not the same as a dude
because oh he's and it's likewhat if that dude go down a bad
path and i was like he mightlose his car you know i mean he
might lose his job you know imean now he's doing drugs now i
was like that's what got himthere because like no one ever
got the proper help bro that'swhat i'm saying so i'm with you
bro and a lot of that bro a lotof that shit really stems from
childhood too like here's a funfact also bro do you know that

(01:13:19):
most people in jail i want tosay like 70 percent of like
prisoners, bro, were in thefoster care system at some
point.
Seriously?
Yes, bro.
And we know how bad that is.
Yeah, exactly, bro.
So when we start reframing thesethings as like, bro, these
aren't like criminal.
These are failed people, bro.
These are people that oursociety doesn't try to help or

(01:13:44):
orchestrate things to work morein their favor, bro.
That is true.
I really think only like 5% ofthose dudes are really like you
know what I mean and that's thething and because I think about
this when I think about the ideaof saying like we need to get
rid of the police or we need toget rid of jails everybody
always thinks about the 5% oflike murderers and rapists when

(01:14:04):
in reality okay we could maybethey could still stay in jail
but for the most part everybodyelse this shouldn't be a thing
it's because you use drugs on mebecause it's like you get drug
possession charges and it's likebro he's just an addict How
about you send them to thehouse?
You know, get them clean.
Get them clean.
Yeah, I wish we could live in aworld, bro, where people feel
like they need to use drugs tocope.
Yeah, that too.
You know?
Because that's why people usedrugs.

(01:14:26):
They use drugs as a copingmechanism.
And what are they coping from?
Because the fucking world's sohard, nigga.
The world's so hard, bro.
And you guys are going tochallenge that every moment.
And if you don't think it'shard, bro, here's what I learned
too, bro.
America constitutes, bro, like4% of the world population.
Did you know that we're like 40%of prescription drug users?

SPEAKER_01 (01:14:46):
Seriously?

SPEAKER_02 (01:14:46):
Yes.
We use majority of the world'sprescription drugs, bro.
That's kind of insane.
Because we can't cope with howcrazy things are here, bro.
We just got Yes, so we justthink, and again, too, our views
of drugs are so skewed.
And we have such good access toit.
It's so weird.
Again, because the way weperceive drugs is solely based
off of your ability to be aworker.
So we only deem something a drugif it inhibits your ability to

(01:15:10):
work for the man.
Because think about it.
Sugar and caffeine are drugs,but they don't stop you from
getting to the fucking office,nigga.
As a matter of fact, they don'tgive you that as a price.
But marijuana, though, you can'tsmoke weed at work because you
don't want to chill.
Again, but those are both drugs,but...
Again, we see one as being moreharmful because it's like, oh,

(01:15:31):
you're not a valuable worker.
Even Coke.
CEOs do Coke.
And he has a Coke problem, butit's cool as long as the
company's running.
But once the company's failing,he go to rehab.
He do this.
It's funny.
I actually seen it happen withthe Ducks a few years ago.
I remember the manager, theDucks started failing.
Next thing you know, he was analcoholic.
So he's been an alcoholic thewhole time.

(01:15:52):
When you're winning, it's cool,bro.
When you're winning, it's cool.
A five-year slump.
Oh, no.
he got a problem and it's likefunny and it's like it's funny
like that always apply to us byus i mean like brown black skin
it's like oh no he a criminalbro nah he this and it's like
bro little timmy you know he gothealth issues you know so you
know he got problem and it'slike it's crazy you really were

(01:16:12):
in class for four months i knowyou gotta go soon but it's crazy
you're in a class for fourmonths and they brought up no
one that was nine non-white brothe furthest they they talked
about that might have beenniggas the first week of class
they brought up ancient egyptokay so yeah my bad they might
have brought up niggas from 2000bc and that's one week and that
they we spent one week out of 16weeks we might have talked about

(01:16:34):
some niggas from egypt and themiddle east that's okay

SPEAKER_03 (01:16:37):
that's it

SPEAKER_02 (01:16:38):
yeah But we didn't talk about, you know, what the
fuck they was believing inAfrica.
Or even, bro, natives, you know.
Lord forbid, we try to, youknow.
They erased that historyalready.
And it's nasty.
It's really annoying.
Because, you know, almost how Ithink about it, bro, I think
about that old phrase.
Correct and private praise inpublic, you know, and I apply

(01:16:58):
that to where that's how itshould be for black folks.
That's true, bro.
Because again, the media andeverybody already points out all
the issues and stuff that wehave.
All the cons.
Yeah.
And that's why it's like, I knowniggas are going to do certain
things.
I don't got to say it, though.
I know that, you know, I knowthat.
But I'm not going to talk aboutthat.
There's already enough.
I'm going to highlight all thepros.

(01:17:19):
I'm going to do all the pros.
So that's why, that's really myonly gripe, to keep it real.
Non-bullshit, clickbait shit.
My only gripe with them was, asblack people, bro, it's tough,
bro.
We're in a black space trying tocurate.
And we even see white creatorsand black creators don't get the
same treatment.
So it's just, it is tough.
That's all.
You can't talk about it becauseit's like, Oh, okay.
We can say that too.
Like, nah, y'all can't, y'allcan't say that too.

(01:17:41):
That's why.
But I think that's really,that's interesting too, because
now that really makes me thinkabout the importance of like,
curating a digital spacespecifically for black people
and how you'd even go aboutdoing that it's tough but yeah i
don't think you ever can i thinkit's just it's almost like uh
twitter tiktok in the sense oflike there's always going to be
new jokes that happen and thenthey're going to get co-opted

(01:18:03):
and we just got yep and do itagain and again it's also like
you said though earlier bro um iknow it's like the bus route
thing though I know it was justlike a that was actual but the
bus route thing for me is likean analogy of life bro as black
people bro we do always like goto the hype you know what I mean
and it's like not many cool Imean I don't know like I said I

(01:18:23):
don't have it in front of me tobe honest with you I'll be lying
if I say it but like bro there'sThere's black fashion brands
that exist out there that arecool, you know what I mean?
I'm not really a fashion headlike that, keep it real, but
they exist, dog, you know?
There's black high fashionbrands.
But it's like, we go to LV, wego to Gucci, and it's like, do
we talk bad about the black?
Because it's like, do we talkbad?
And it's like, well, they'reovercharging.
Nigga, LV got that shit fromChina, and they're trying to do

(01:18:46):
5,000.
So I know I was trying to befunny and get a clickbait
moment, but I'm with Newman,bro.
I just think as black people,bro, we can't talk bad.
Honestly, we got to supportbusiness that's actually good.
I'm not going to support a badbusiness.
But it's just like...
Bro, you saying that you can't.
So now it's like, oh, we got toget Gucci.
We got to get LV.
We got to go to this.
And it's like, bro, black peoplemake up the most money.
Why can't we do it ourselves?

(01:19:06):
But we're programmed, bro.
We got to go to white people.
We're programmed.
Especially when these brandsmake it clear that they don't
even care.
They don't fuck with us, bro.
That's the worst part, too.
They don't fuck with us, man.
If Gucci were to say, like, yo,we love niggas, then it wouldn't
even be a problem.
But Gucci makes it clear, too,that they don't like niggas.
They don't fuck with us, bro.
Like I said, I don't know noblack fashion brand off the top
of my head.
I'm not going to lie.
But I know there's some outthere.
I see people on Twitter talkabout it like, oh, I like this

(01:19:27):
brand.
I like that brand.
The one that I think of and itjust draws a lot of controversy
is Denim Tears.
And I don't like that either,though.
I don't like the...
What's wrong with that one?
I don't want to see a white boywearing cotton wreaths for
fashion.
Okay, okay, okay.
I don't want to see it.
All right, okay.
That's a little...
All right, that's fair.
That's fair, dog.
That's fair.
Bro.
We out of here?
No, let's finish that with somesports.

(01:19:49):
UFC?
UFC, NBA, bro.
All right, we got it.
We got UFC, NBA.
UFC, Sean O'Malley.
I thought we were talking aboutthis fight fucking five times
already.
It's upcoming.
You know it's coming already.
We're really going to talk aboutis the fucking 170 division,
right?

SPEAKER_03 (01:20:02):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (01:20:03):
170 is crazy.
JDM won.
So it looks like he's going tofight Islam, I think.
Yeah.
Islam moved up and vacated hisbelt.
Yeah.
But then we have Usman andBuckley.
oh sean bradley's still there idon't know it's a stack bro it's
like like ian gary yeah where'sian gary why how do you feel

(01:20:27):
about this division bro it'sgetting stacked good i like it
it's getting stacked bro i'mscared i'm scared i can't lie
make them dudes get active yeahyeah you're not lying i like it
i like i like the competition umyou know i know there's going to
be some good fights set up insome islam wins what happens
though like fuck do we do heyyou got a lot of niggas to put
up against them bro ain't knowwhat i would want to see i can't

(01:20:49):
lie i want to see uzman islamyeah at 170 that opens up a
nasty door right there bro yeahbut i'm sure dana wants islam to
win too oh for sure for sure hegets he gets to praise him
around as new khabib yeah umwe'll fight night the other week
um we had what michael moremichael morrow's morales yeah
i'll give a burn stop it's funnybro I thought he was black then

(01:21:13):
he spoke he said well Ecuadorianwhat is it I think I was like oh
yeah that's true that's true buthonestly I was expecting him to
speak English and shit I waslike what the hell he's Latin
American that was funny but it'ssad to see Gilbert Burns go down
this shit bro I think it's doneit's done I think that's what
two three knockouts back to backit's done for Gilbert bro tough

(01:21:36):
fighter bro he's been around along time been about 10 years
man it's cool You ain't supposedto be fighting that long
sometimes.
Right?
I don't know, man.
As a fighter, bro, is that a lotof damage?
It is a lot of damage.
That's a lot of damage, right?
It is, especially because Idon't know how MMA guys train,
but I know Muay Thai, we don'tspar hard very often.

(01:21:56):
I know boxing dudes, themmotherfuckers are sparring hard
all the time.
They kind of go at it.
Yeah, so I know that longevityfor boxing, bro, it's not there
as much.
And then MMA, maybe they don'tspar as hard either because I
feel like some of those guys do.
Some of those guys have beenaround.
They last pretty long.
Yeah, some of those guys havebeen around like 20 years.
Got Glover.
Some of those guys do.
Yeah, I feel like if you'resmart, you could really get some

(01:22:18):
longevity in.
Yeah, I like that.
UFC, man, it's here and there.
Really got to talk about theNBA.
Oh, yeah.
Man, Ant-Man is knocking niggasout laughing.
Right, bro.
Bro, what is it?
It's Timberwolves versus...
Thunder, that's a good matchup.
How do you feel about thatmatchup?
Bro, I love how the playoffs arelooking right now, bro.

(01:22:41):
It's anybody's league.
It's a new champ now.
Yeah, it's going to be a newchamp now, bro.
It's anybody's league, bro.
You like that matchup?
Yeah, bro, I love that matchup,bro.
Ant-Man versus SGA.
I'm going Wolves, bro.
You think so?
Yeah, I'm a fan of Ant-Man, bro.
He just talks that shit.
He does.
Bro, he's a dog, bro.
He's a dog.
I don't want to say it, bro.
You know who's been lookinggood?
Rudy Gobert.
Rudy Gobert.
Yeah.
I didn't want to say it, bro.

(01:23:02):
Yeah, Riddle Bears have beenlooking good, too, bro.
Bro, Riddle Bears have beenlooking good, bro.
Yeah, they're really getting ridof, like, Cat, bro.
Hey, Riddle Bears have beenlooking good, man.
I didn't want to say it.
That was actually the rightmove.
I never would have thought.
I guess it worked out for bothteams.
Yeah.
It worked out well for both ofthem.
Because Julius Randle gets toget the ISO ball off, you know.
Honestly, I'm a Newman.
I got Wolves, too.
Probably like five, six.
Wolves in six.

(01:23:23):
What, Pacers, Knicks?
That's Holly, the team ball.
Hmm.
versus the Knicks how you feelabout that matchup though that's
gonna be that's a rematch fromlast year I think that's a good
one yeah honestly I'm gonna goKnicks too because I'm a big
Jalen Brunson fan bro same likeif I really want to see anybody
winning from the East it wouldbe Jalen Brunson I like Josh
Hart a lot too I was an oldLaker I like Josh Hart Jalen

(01:23:45):
Brunson I really just like thatKnicks squad bro yeah bro they
got a lot of heart I've been afan of them for a few years too
like back when they had likeHartenstein oh yeah they got a
lot of heart yeah I like theKnicks squad bro they try hard
bro Yeah, they just grit like,you know, he's going to go out
there and fucking ball.
And then the guy fuckingThibodeau, bro.
Yeah.
I fuck with Thibodeau, man.
He's always working his playersextra hard and shit.

(01:24:06):
He's an old school coach, so.
Niggas in the league hate him,bro.
You don't play 40 minutes.
He's always voted like top 10worst coaches, bro.
It's because he's mad strict,bro.
He's mad old school.
So I thought you'd have acertain mindset.
I kind of said earlier, like,bro, when they say you got to
play basketball on days youdon't play basketball.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, with him, he's makingsure.
Bro, you're playing 40 minutestonight.
You're running sprints.
But coach, nah.

(01:24:27):
We run an eight-man rotation, 40minutes, nigga.
You know what?
But he's healthy.
I don't care.
Cipollino's not careful.
He's running it.

UNKNOWN (01:24:36):
Man.

SPEAKER_02 (01:24:36):
But yeah, we had some good shit going on.
So we got, you think theKnicks-Wolves finals?
I want to see Knicks-Wolves, buthonestly, I could see...
That would be a good, bro.
That would be a crazy finals,bro.
Knicks-Wolves.
I could see anybody making it,though, man.
Like, I could definitely seejust that.
That would be a crazy finals,bro.
The Pacers, bro, just the waythey're just on that running
gun, bro.
That's tough to stop.
I could see that working, yeah,and just having to keep up with

(01:24:57):
that, bro.

UNKNOWN (01:24:58):
Damn.

SPEAKER_02 (01:24:59):
I do like Holly.
He plays such good basketball,bro.
Yeah, especially after, youknow, niggas was talking about,
you're not top 15, you know.
Was it most overrated?
Yeah, you're most overrated typeof shit.
Yeah, that's when he wasn't atrue NBA, All-NBA player, too.
Niggas was talking mad, spicyabout Holly.
Bro, he's a good basketballplayer.
I don't want to hate him.
Probably because he'slight-skinned.

(01:25:20):
It is kind of weird.
We do live in a weird colorism.
It's kind of funny.
It's like, goddamn, we hate thelight skins, but we love y'all
at the same time.
They're a little cornysometimes, bro.
Yes, they are a little cornysometimes.
They are a little cornysometimes.
I feel like there's two types oflight skins, bro.
You get the woke conscious lightskins or the corny, you know,
I'm trying to play into beinglight skin, light skin.

(01:25:42):
Facts.
That's so funny.
The woke conscious.
Yeah, sometimes you get themlight skins, bro, to where it's
like.
Higher learning.
Yeah.
Fucking new, bro.
Nah, new's too smart, bro.
I love debating new.
You smart ass.
We out of here.
What's up, man?
Nah, still winning.

(01:26:03):
You got one?
You been following with ShadurSanders, bro?
Oh, we gonna update it?
We gonna update?
Hey, nah, you know what's reallyfunny on a side note?
You know another reason why Ipulled that shit earlier?
Bro.
fucking Jose say he love whenwe're arguing about shit oh

SPEAKER_04 (01:26:18):
my

SPEAKER_02 (01:26:18):
god I'm gonna keep it real I'm gonna keep it real
I'm gonna keep it real I wastalking to Teddy the other day
and I was talking I was on XboxI can't I'm gonna probably cut
this real quick but I can't Iwas talking to Teddy I might
keep this but I'm Teddying thoseniggas and they was like nah we
liked when y'all was arguing Ican't lie he's like he's like it
was kind of like some likeStephen A.
Smith and uh and uh skip shitand i was like oh i'm gonna do

(01:26:40):
that on the next pot i shouldhave warned you that's my fault

SPEAKER_04 (01:26:44):
they

SPEAKER_02 (01:26:45):
was fucking with it bro but you see now steven and
skit were really beefing thoughbro like i feel like you've been
seeing though how to how to qbcompetitions looking hey new one
was 100 right bro niggas want toprove a point because he was too
flashy yeah hey he was right broI mean, I guess we knew it, but

(01:27:05):
it just sucked that they had todo it.
That's what it is, bro.
They're going to have to breakhim down, make him know that
he's aware of his place.
Bro, I saw this.
They say he's throwing Chrisballs.
They say he's the best one outthere, honestly.
I saw the head coach.
He's competing for the numberone job.
Him and Dylan Gabriel.
And I was like, wait, what?
I thought he was a fifth-roundtalent.

(01:27:26):
I was like, oh, okay.
I saw the players.
You saw the players?
They was taking pictures withhim.
He was like, He's like, nah, Ican't do it.
I think I'll pull up the peacesign.
You saw him?
He didn't even want to do it.
He's like, nah, I'm not tryingto get blackballed no more.
He got the act right.
I did want to ask you aboutthat.
I wanted to ask you if you sawthat clip.
He got the act right.
Yeah, I did.
I did see it.
His players are all trying tothrow up.

(01:27:47):
He's like, nah, I can't.
I got the act right.
He's like, I got the act right.
It always makes me wonder howmuch money is enough money,
though, to stop acting right.
How much money is enough moneyfor you to be like, look, I'm
just going to be me.
But he's a kid, bro.
well yeah he was like you knowhe's only 20 21 so that nigga
he's wondering though how muchmoney would it take for a nigga
to be like i'm cool let me goplay in the cfl xfl never bro or

(01:28:10):
even in the nba like at theprime never i made a hundred mil
never play in europe never butwe're programmed we're literally
programmed to be part of theestablishment i guess that's why
i'll just never get it bro andthat's fair that's why i got a
nigga like me you give me 100mil you'll never see me again
i'm off into the sunset bro butwhy did you get another 100 mil

(01:28:31):
I don't have that level of greedin me, bro.
I don't have that level ofdarkness in me.
But you're saying this now.
No, no, no, no.
Because if a nigga gave me$1,000, I'm going to be grateful
for that shit, bro.
That shit's going to take, I'mgoing to be talking about that
for years.
100 mil is different.
100 mil?
Actually, no, I wouldn't selloff into the sunset.
You know why?
Because I'm funding Dr.

(01:28:51):
Umar's school.
I

SPEAKER_04 (01:28:52):
thought

SPEAKER_02 (01:28:58):
I did it.
We're podcasters, dog.
We're podcasters, dog.
This is a 360 pod, bro.
This is how you fucking pod,niggas.
We're not just some fuckingamateurs.
All right?
And shout out to the fourth yearanniversary of the fucking pod,
too.
Shit started on May 18th, 2021.
Fourth year anniversary of thefucking pod.

SPEAKER_01 (01:29:18):
Ew, ew, ew.
What'd he say?
He said that's what I would dowith the money.

SPEAKER_02 (01:29:21):
Nah, nah.
That's a full pod moment rightthere.
Oh, shit.
Niggas is cooking today.
Niggas is cooking.
hey now you got a point thoughoh fuck no you killed me that
way but now bro okay but what ifall right what if you get the
hundred million all right youfund this you fund the school
you helping umar you helping theblack businesses you're doing
your thing but what if niggastold you in four more years

(01:29:43):
we'll give you 180 million yougotta keep playing that ball
keep dribbling oh no becauseagain dudes that just means that
like that's what it costs foryou to just sell out 180
million?
That's what selling your soullooks like.
180?
Selling your soul.
What about your kids' kids?
100 mil isn't enough for yourkids' kids.
But Nike have 280.
If you're thinking about yourkids' kids, bro, maybe you
should start living a littlemore frugally, nigga.

(01:30:05):
What if you have 280?
Like I said, when is enoughenough?
Is 500 million, is that thecutoff?
Maybe.
I don't know.
Maybe.
No.
No.
Nigga, 100 million.
Bro, once you start getting intowealth that you can't even spend
in your lifetime, nigga.
But we're programmed.
When you have to go and try toblow$100 million, that's a lot

(01:30:27):
of money, bro.
It is.
But at the same time, though,you're also telling someone in
the middle of their prime to goplay in Europe.
Who watches your basketball?
A lot of people.
But not as much as the NBA,though.
It don't matter.
I thought it was about the loveof the game, bro.
Or is it about the flash and theshine?
Hey, but what if it's aboutboth?

(01:30:47):
Can that be true?
No, because at some point, bro,we see that the flash and the
shine gets in the way of theseplayers all the time.
But why can't it be both,though?
Why can't they love ball?
Why can't it be both?

UNKNOWN (01:30:58):
Nope.

SPEAKER_02 (01:30:59):
Like LaMelo Ball.
Most niggas don't have both.
Again, LaMelo Ball, come on,bro.
He's always hurt, though, yeah.
Come on, bro.
He's always hurt.
You can't have both, bro.
I'm like, at the same time,you're actually someone to,
like, in the middle of it, like,go to, like, a lower league,
technically.
How is it, bro?
It's not necessarily a league.
You get less money, though.
You get less money.
You got$100 million, bro.
I know, I know, but I'm justsaying.

(01:31:19):
You took$100 million, and yougo...
Really invested, yeah.
With$100 million, bro.
$100 million in the Philippines,that's a billion dollars.
Shit, man, you take$100 millionto Nebraska, you'll be all
right.
If you had$100 million in thePhilippines, bro, the only thing
you got more money than you isManny Pacquiao.
Okay?
Like, bro, you could really gosomewhere.

(01:31:40):
And still hoop, nigga.
This nigga's crazy, yo.
You got a point, though.
But again, it's about just,there's a certain level of
greed.
Nigga, take 100 mil Lithuania.
100 mil Lithuania?
Bro, 100 mil, bro, and it's notenough.
It's greedy, nigga.
It's greedy.
But you're in the middle of yourprime, bro.
What if you're still on theball?
Go ball in Lithuania then,nigga.
Go set some historic numbersthat are never going to get

(01:32:01):
broke.
Go play in the Philippines.
I will put up 200 points.
That shit's never getting fromme.
And technically, it's still partof the basketball.
So you still go to the Hall ofFame, too.
You could still go to the Hallof Fame.
Yeah, you still go to the Hallof Fame.
Yeah, that's true.
It's not about basketball forthese niggas, bro.
Because again, too, bro, we knowsome people, bro, who play
basketball overseas.
You got a point.
And they're still going to hoop.

(01:32:21):
They're going to hoop.
And they still hoop to this day.
If they can support theirfamily, they're going to hoop.
They're going to hoop.
That's enough for them.
That's true.
But I mean, what if...
I mean, we're saying this, andI'm not having it.
I don't want to, like, shit onthese niggas, but I do.
I do.
But what if one day you came to,like, 50 million, and I know we
get a new Newman?
If one day I come in at$50million, bro, I'm going to show
niggas how you're supposed toact with some money.

(01:32:44):
Nah, I do believe you.
Because I'm not shucking andjiving.
I do believe you.
But what if someone said Newman?
Got another$50 million for youin a few years.
I don't care.
With the$50 million that I havenow, I'm trying to suck my dick.
You done?
Yes, dude.
If I have$50 million, I'm notworking for anybody ever again.

SPEAKER_03 (01:32:59):
That's fair.

SPEAKER_02 (01:33:00):
Nobody's telling me shit.
That's why it's just so hard forme to comprehend.
You're willing to work for aracist?
and you're already amillionaire, you're willing to
let somebody, you know, call youa nigger and do all this behind
your back.
And you know they are.
You know Jerry Jones is.
The Clippers owner.
Yeah, you know he is.
Even the owners were notmentioning it.
Yeah, you know, and that's thesellout to me, bro.
I personally, I can't sell outlike that.

(01:33:22):
And I can understand, though.
I'm not an irrational dude.
I can understand doing that andhaving to play the game for 10
years to where, nigga, you madea good amount of money.
But now you searching.
Yeah, but now it's still like,oh, you know, now I'm still
trying to get these last years.
Nigga, go do something else,bro.
I got you.
To the point where, nigga, Ican't step up and I can't make a
statement because I don't wantto lose my contract.

(01:33:42):
Nigga, you already done signedfour$50 million contracts.
Fuck it.
And now you're scared to talkup.
You're scared to speak up.
That's what I'm saying rightthere.
Shucking and jiving for themoney.
Yeah, that's the shucking jiveright there.
You can't save nothing because anigga's paying you.
Nah, I don't agree with it.
But I think money comes withsome stipulations always.

(01:34:03):
I think that's what they're nottelling us.
And that's why a nigga can nevergive me$50 million.
Because I'm stipulations, bro,out the window.
You can't do it, yeah?
Yeah.
If you're going to give mestipulations, don't give me the
$50 million.
Because I'm not just going tobuy cars and houses and bitches.
I'm good.
I'm good.
I'm going to build up a blackcommunity, nigga.
They're going to kill you.
They're going to kill me.

(01:34:24):
And that's what my mindset is.
They're going to kill you, bro.
If I'm not on the FBI watchlist, if niggas ain't trying to
kill me, I'm not dreaming bigenough.
You're not doing it right.
I'm not doing it right.
And this is why I laugh, becauseI'm like, I feel like a nigga
like you really is like aMalcolm X type.
I can't lie.
I'd hope so, but I'm not.
I wish I had that level ofdiscipline.
Nah, I feel like you don't gotthe funds either, though.

(01:34:45):
Because you do be big on thisshit.
I can't lie.
I'm like, nah.
I feel like if you had a minute,you'd get it the right way.
I would.
The right way.
Bro, I would.
You would get it done the rightway.
That's all I'll say.
I don't want to shit on Bron.
But Bron got it done, bro.
Got teachers in there.
Mostly black.
I've been heard.
They see it online most.
That's why I like Bron.
Bron is the one exception.
It just niggas been a goodfamily man his whole life.
Didn't wait for nobody.

(01:35:06):
You know, gave back to thecommunity.
Didn't wait.
And Russ.
I love Russ, too.
Yeah, Bron and Russ, bro.
Like you said, bro, be flashywith the donations.
You know, Russ is real flashy.
Yeah.
Honor the gift.
Be flashy with it, bro.
And that's what I'm saying.
It's real hard to hate on Bron,bro.
It's hard.
It's real hard to hate on Bron.
It's super hard, bro.
Because we're especially like,bro, he does a lot for black

(01:35:26):
men.
Yeah, I'm like, Bron.
Bron just does it.
But they be seeing a lot.
He's giving money back to Akronevery other fucking week.
I can't, bro.
He's from Akron.
And you see he's not trying tosell these niggas Bitcoin.
Exactly.
Or crypto.
What?
building boys and girls clubs.
What do we need after schoolwhen parents go to work?
Boys and girls clubs.
Our kids are safe.

(01:35:46):
We don't want the kids on thestreet.
Okay, Brian.
That's why I fuck with Russ.
He built some more in LA too.
Nigga not going to try to sellyou crypto though.
Yeah, we need some more kids togo and feel safe.
Nigga not be on the street.
Nah, that's real shit, bro.
Nigga, nah, Snoop's a nasty manfor that.
I can't lie.
Okay, let me ask you this.
Does no part of you understandwhere Snoop's coming from?

(01:36:07):
Like, not even a little bit?
No.
That's fair.
No.
No part of me understands whereSnoop's coming from, bro.
If I tried, the more I reallythink about it, the more I'm
just like, he just sold out,bro.
And he's trying to justify it toeverybody else.
But you don't think black peopleshould, like, get crypto?
Do I think?
No, I don't think.
I don't think we should beplaying the game.
I don't think so either.
I'll be honest.
I think we need to play thisgame first.

(01:36:28):
Yeah, bro.
Get some real money.
Yeah, we need to play this gamefirst.
You know, because again, cryptois one of those things where
somebody is getting exploited atthe expense of you having money.
You know, because that's the endgoal of because when I brought
up mining, bro, they don't.
Niggas in Africa aren't miningcrypto.
No, no.
Mining diamonds.
South America aren't miningcrypto.
You feel me?
So when we talk about that, allit's going to do is perpetuate

(01:36:50):
what's already going on, whichis like America and other
Western cultures is trying todominate the rest of the world
using a currency that isn'treal.
That's not really helping us.
Yeah.
No, exactly.
You got to be flashy with theshit.
Because think about this too.
I'm about to wrap it up now too.
If, Like, the only reason DonaldTrump was allowed to go and
like, oh, we're tariffing thesecountries, we're going to put

(01:37:11):
tariffs on them, is because theyuse the American dollars,
currency.
If they don't use American moneyas currency, bro, you can't, we
don't have the power to, I'mgoing to tariff you, I'm going
to do this, I'm going to dothat, which is why they're still
trying to get everybody to usecrypto.
So it's like, you could geteverybody to use crypto and
American money, so now we havepower owning two different types
of money.

(01:37:32):
This man new is cooking,cooking, bro.
Hey, new me making that shit,bro.
Hey, honestly, so if Shadorgives back, I'm going to go back
to Shador real quick.
If Shador starts posting, like,you know, donating the money and
Cleveland and stuff like that,will you feel a little better?
I feel a little better.
That's fair.
Okay.
To me, I'm always going to be onthat.
You always got to remember, youalways got to.
That Kyrie thought of mine, anigga, just start your own

(01:37:52):
league.
He always, you do always saythat.
That's always going to be in theback.
Nigga, start your own.
You guys, when I see, when I seeniggas, signing$50 million
contracts and they not even likethe best player on the squad,
bro.
I'm like, you guys could startyour own league.
Y'all could start.
Niggas, niggas is starting theirown league using the YMCA.
With no, come on, bro.

(01:38:13):
With no money.
Yes.
There's no money.
Niggas is driving forkliftsstarting their own league.
You was telling me it was afootball 37 and you.
37 and you.
Niggas, bro.
Niggas got to go and fuckingmove pallets in the morning.
And they're out here playingtackle football, bro.
Starting their own league.
For the love of the game.
You're not lying, dog.
They risking an ACL tear.

(01:38:33):
They don't love the game, bro.
These niggas don't love thegame.
They only love the country.
Wait, wait, wait.
So is that what we're down to?
We're still going to watch thisshit.
I got to say it earlier, bro.
It's all entertainment.
I don't believe it.
I really don't believe it.
Like Newman said- I'm theopposite of Newman.
Newman said he believes whatthese niggas saying.
I don't believe what theseniggas are saying, honestly.
Because I just know, bro, it'snot real, bro.
I just know, like, some of themmight believe that, bro, but not

(01:38:54):
all of them are doing it for us.
Like, Snoop's not doing it forus.
Snoop's not doing it for us,bro.
So I can't believe Snoop triedto look that man down in his
eyes and say he's helping theblack community.
I just, I know it's not true.
Snoop's trying to profit off theblack community.
So I was like, yeah, Snoop mightbe helping, but he's only
helping because he's gettingmoney off of it.

(01:39:14):
Whereas someone like MarkThey're helping in the sense of
like, nigga, they're onlyhelping because nigga, the
school paid them.
It's not like someone givingthem$5 million is going to talk
to you.
Snoop got some money.
They paid him some money to goDJ at the inauguration.
And on top of that, he got somecrypto, nigga.
He got some Bitcoin.
And I think too, dude, I thinkthat the worst part about it all
too is there's a type of likesocial currency that the

(01:39:38):
president gets from having blackpeople support him.
And that's what that does.
Wait, wait, wait.
Break that down.
Break that down for them realquick, real quick.
All Snoop Dogg, you know, beinginvolved with...
Donald Trump and stuff, all thatdoes is try to give legitimacy
to MAGA supporters and make itseem as if black people support
Donald Trump or are bigsupporters.

(01:39:59):
It's almost like they're tryingto use Snoop as like the Al
Sharpton type.
Like, you can't be racist.
Al Sharpton fucking with us.
We love black people.
We got Snoop Doggy Dogg here,nigga.
You love Snoop Doggy Dogg.
That's what they're saying, yes.
Gin and juice.
Yes, and that's the equivalentto like when the DNC was trying
to do that.
When they was trying to getmega.
That's what they think of

SPEAKER_03 (01:40:21):
us.

SPEAKER_02 (01:40:21):
That's what they think of us.
They think that they could get aSnoop.
They could get a Meg.
They could get a Cardi B.
That's going to do it for us.
And that's it.
And that's all we need.
And it's not enough for me.
No, I'm with you, bro.
It's not enough for me.
Especially Snoop Dogg.
And again, somebody like Snoop,too.
I know people are going to ask,we all have done bad shit in the
past.
And I feel like somebody likeSnoop, bro, the only way to

(01:40:43):
repent, bro, you have to go...
and acknowledge the harm thatyou caused, bro.
You have to go and acknowledgewhat you're saying about, you
know, the pimp propaganda thatyou were pushing.
That has real life consequences.
He had a wife the whole time,bro.
Yes, that has real lifeconsequences, bro.
You really impacted the lives ofmillions of people, bro.

(01:41:03):
Some people really grew up thatway.
Some people really became pimpsbecause of Snoop.
Yeah, think about it like this,bro.
I think we talked about it onour pod before.
Snoop Dogg might be the mostfamous rapper on earth.
He might be the mostrecognizable rapper on earth.
I mean, black.
People want to say Eminem,but...
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
Snoop Dogg might be the mostrecognizable rapper on earth,
bro.
Easily.
You get what I mean?
But again, there's real lifeharm that he's done in his

(01:41:25):
music, bro.
Yeah, for sure.
And there's nothing wrongwith...
I completely agree that it's avalid response to know he was
young, he was dumb, but you haveto go up and you have to say
that thing, bro.
And you have to say it louderthan...
than the 10 million records youwere selling, bro.
I heard the nonsense.
Yeah, think about that.
I heard the bullshit.
When a nigga's going diamond,when a nigga's going diamond,

(01:41:46):
you're going to have to spend alot of time then, you know,
talking about some positivity toundo the shit you was just
talking about, bro.
I honestly haven't heard a lotof positive snoop.
I heard a little bit, a littleRastafarian.
Yeah, you went diamond talkingabout pimping hoes.
You got to put in a lot morework now.
Yep.
You know, and preach a lot morepositivity and a lot more
knowledge.
Yep.
You know, before you could justbe like, oh, you know.

(01:42:06):
He did go Rasta.
He did go church.
And what does Rasta do, though?
What was Rasta?
He went Rasta so he could smokemore weed.
Yeah, and make like a movie orsome shit, I think.
Come on, bro.
Snoop Ryan.
I think he did make a movie offof that, too.
Nah, Newman's been cooking, bro.
Oh, man.
Happy birthday to my girl, bro.
I love you.
Happy birthday to everyone.
Whose birthday is this month?

(01:42:26):
Happy birthday to all y'all.
Yeah, happy birthday, Mick.
I don't know whose birthday isthis month.
Happy birthday, Lala.
Happy birthday.
What's Lala's birthday?
24th.
24th.
Happy birthday, Lala.
Happy birthday, man.
Happy birthday, everybody, bro.
Thanks for tuning into the pod.
Me and Newman got spicy.
Yeah.
Too young black man getting it,bro.
Successful black man, bro.
Newman's doing his thing, dog.

(01:42:46):
Newman fucking graduated withhonors, nigga.
Nigga about to have his ownbusiness.
Successful black man, nigga.
Even though niggas don't needschool, that nigga did it the
right way, you feel me?
Nah, because, you know, I hatethat only black people got to go
to school, you know what I mean?
Like I said, I was trying to befunny earlier, but whatever,
whatever.

(01:43:07):
I love you, New.
You know that, cuz.
Anyway, I'm out of here.
Episode 63, New, what you gotfor us?
Man, I love every single one ofy'all, bro, who stayed this long
to listen to us, man.
Appreciate y'all alwayssupporting and tapping in with
the pod.
If you haven't already, be sureto follow us on Instagram,
TikTok.
Twitter I think we still do wehave a pod Twitter account I

(01:43:27):
don't even be on Twitter Elon'snot getting paid off so but
anyways man make sure you likefollow subscribe just engage
with the pod man anything helpsdude I'm just trying to trying
to grow the pod man trying togrow it organically bro and all
the support helps like wedefinitely been seeing you know
all the comments that you guysleave for us personal messages

(01:43:47):
you guys leave for us man isappreciate it man I love I love
all you guys man it keeps megoing and Yeah, that's it, man.
You know, stay hydrated.
Drink water.
Stay woke.
Hey, we love y'all.
Like I said, happy birthday,everybody.
Happy birthday, my girl.
Happy birthday.
All the birthdays this month.
And we out of here.
Happy Tuesday, Monday,Wednesday.

SPEAKER_01 (01:44:11):
Y'all know what day it is.

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