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June 19, 2025 • 110 mins

This episode kicks off with a rundown of the shows we're watching, including my deep dive into the Love Island USA relationships (4:10). We then explore the distinct nature of reality TV shows like Love is Blind (15:50). Things take a wild turn with the story of a man who fell in love and even proposed to a custom AI chatbot, despite having a girlfriend and child (18:08), sparking a discussion about the future of cyborgs and cybernetic implants. We also cover the Elon Musk and Donald Trump feud (36:22), Lil Wayne and Drake still rapping about the same old things in 2025 (42:15), and why Sabrina Carpenter is the "white Sexyy Red" (52:45). Later, we discuss the need to support non-blockbuster films, exemplified by a new Harold & Kumar movie (53:44), leading to a broader conversation about authentic characters and storytelling versus pandering to audiences. Finally, we break down the NBA Finals and Kevin Durant's potential departure (1:10:42), UFC's Kamaru Usman looking elite, the LA Dodgers' lack of supporting the fan base during these hard times (1:18:53), and the "Minnesota Assassin" (1:40:06), plus much more!

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SPEAKER_03 (00:01):
Ew, ew, ew.
Unapologetic.

SPEAKER_02 (00:06):
Unapologetic episode 67?
67, I think.
67, baby.
Got some visuals up today.
How you doing today, man?
I know, man.
Doing good, man.
I'm excited for the new setup,bro.
I'm just getting here, man.
Yeah, man.
I'm fucking with it, bro.
I'm excited to get some feedbackfrom the fans, bro.
Yeah, bro.
You know what I mean?

(00:28):
The run.
The OGs, you know, theoriginators.
Yeah.
You know, we used to be the oneand only, but, you know, some
biting ass niggas out there.
One of two now.
One of two on the podcast.
It's all good, though, man.
We're here, man.
That's fine, man.
Thank you all for tuning in.
You guys be at work, school,shit.
Summer, maybe not school, but...
Work at home, clean the house.

(00:48):
Thank y'all for tuning in andlistening.
Thank y'all for watching.
Like, subscribe, comment.
Hey, whatever app y'all using,hey, comment on the pod, bro, or
give us a rating.
I mean, give us on Spotify,Apple, give us a rating.
Shit, how you feeling today,bro?
Feeling good, man.
I'm ready to just get into it,bro.
I'm going to play a song rightnow.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We'll play a song for, you know,audio listeners.

(01:09):
Yeah.
All right, man.
Let's get it.

UNKNOWN (01:15):
All right.
Thank you.

SPEAKER_02 (04:07):
It was jamming.
It was...
Don't Stop the Music by JawFunk.
Nah, that shit was jamming, bro.
Yeah, nah, he was rocking withthat.
Nah, that was jamming.
I was like, damn, what is this?
I never heard that in my life.
Right?
That shit was smooth.
Yo.
I love it, man.
That's a new artist, too, bro.
That's like a newer, a newartist.
It's not an old song oranything.

(04:27):
Okay.
That's some good music outthere, bro.
I know.
I know we all talk abouthip-hop's bad, but there's other
music than hip-hop out there,bro.
Yeah, man.
I'm fucking with it, bro.
I like that.
What are we getting into first?
Bro.
You know what we're going totalk

SPEAKER_05 (04:41):
about, bro.

SPEAKER_02 (04:42):
What shows you been watching, bro?
Bro, I can't lie, bro.
Love Island got me, dude.
Love Island got me, bro.
What?
I've been on Love Island.
Bro, I can't lie.
I've been on Love Island, bro.
My girl, you know, she was like,I'm going to watch Love Island.
I was like, who wants to watchLove Island?
You know the typical manresponse at first?
Yep.
And then she put it on and I'minvested.
And now I'm like, bro, I want tohuddle off the island.

(05:03):
And now I'm like, leave freeJeremiah.
And now I'm like, now I'mdefending people I don't know.
And now I'm invested.
And I just feel sick because I'mlike, I always talk about how
much I don't like reality TV andthey always get me.
Bro, the reality TV rocks, bro.
I don't even lie to myself, bro.
I love it.
I love all things reality TV,bro.
Are you still watching someshows?

(05:23):
That shit's good, bro.
Not right now, bro.
I'm kind of just like in betweenshows right now.
Okay.
I might peep some of LoveIsland, because this is USA,
right?
Yeah.
Yeah, I usually watch LoveIsland UK or, like, Australia.
Oh, really?
For the most part, yeah.
I don't really watch, like, theUSA one.
The USA one's a little raunchierthan, like, the other countries,
bro.
Okay, I didn't know that.

(05:43):
Yeah, niggas in America, theyreal quick to, hey, we're
kissing, we're hooking up, bro.
That's what I kind of thought.
Like, this season has been kindof quick and, like, grandma
invested.
Like, one of the girls, like,she gave the cookie up kind of
early.
Yeah.
Nah, she get a cookie up kind ofearly, bro.
But then she got a daughter athome.
So America's kind of mad at her.
Yeah.
Yeah, America's kind of like,you get a cookie up early, blah,

(06:04):
blah, blah.
But I'm like, why am I investedin this motherfucker's life?
So I'm like, why am I tuning in?
Like, God damn it.
Bro, I think it's just somethingabout reality TV, bro.
Knowing it's a real person, bro.
And knowing it's like whatyou're doing right now, it has
real consequences back home.
Like you said, bro, yourdaughter's watching.
Your family's watching you,right?
And you're giving up the cookieon TV.

(06:24):
Bro, stop.
For a nigga you're not evengoing to be with.
Bro, I met him seven days ago.
Because you know what I alsothink too, bruh?
Even worse is your futurehusband's going to see that.
Your future wife's going to seethat, bruh.
And you was acting all fool.
Kissed 10 niggas on one island.
Nah, I'll be thinking aboutthat.
I'm like, honestly, because Itry not to judge people because

(06:46):
I'm like, it is a part of theshow, right?
So I try not to judge people.
Like, you know, obviously it'spart of the show.
But sometimes I'm like, damn,girl, it's day six.
You don't have to give them thecookie.
You could have just kept kissingthem.
But anyway, I'm invested.
Love Island got me.
I can't lie.
You know what I mean?
Bro, honestly, there's nothingwrong with reality TV, bro.
It got me.
I'm still not watching theKardashians, but I'm not going
to do that.
I'm not going to do that.
But honestly, once I startedputting like my, you know, my

(07:08):
manliness to the side, bro, I'mfeeling like I'm too good to
watch certain shows, bro.
I started enjoying a lot moreTV.
No, exactly.
That's how I'm feeling.
Yeah.
I saw myself watching more quoteunquote, like girly show.
Yeah.
Like a few years ago, I think wewatched like bachelor and And
that shit was kind of smooth.
Deadass, bro.
My girl got me watching Bachelorand Bachelorette, bro.
I can't lie.
Even Golden Bachelor and shit,bro.

(07:29):
She got me watching all that.
I think we watched Bachelor inParadise.
And I was like, bro, this is...
I was like, niggas on an island?
Right?
Bro, and I was like, nah, theygot me.
They got me invested.
I'm all like, oh no, is Johnnygonna pick her?
Yeah.
I'm like, why do I care?
It's just good TV, bro.
It is good TV.
I think sometimes I like howlike...
We're making people who like...
Everyday workers are famoussometimes.

(07:50):
I think that's what I enjoyabout it.
These are just everyday people.
No, that's a good point.
Yeah, and it feels, it's alighter investment.
Just watching everyday people.
You know what I mean?
You don't get like too much ofthe same type of like fandom or
there's no like stands forreality TV for the most part.
Like, you know, cause I feellike you watch other types of

(08:11):
shows and stuff like that.
And then you get on the internetand you kind of want to hear
like the people's opinion.
You run into a lot of, uh, likebias, you know what I mean?
Cause you run into a bunch ofjust stands and just people who
can't give it to you straightabout die hard.
Yup.
And it's like, I can't, I can'targue with you about this cause
you serious.
yeah but and then honestly too ifeel like reality tv it's that's

(08:33):
my favorite type of likeescapism type of tv that's okay
that's fair you know i'm i'mless of If I want to escape and
kind of just forget aboutthings, reality TV is my go-to.
That's your go-to?
Yeah.
I'm less about shows with theactual plot and everything.
I just want to see some dumbpeople do some dumb shit and
just, damn, these people arecrazy.

(08:55):
I think that's where I'm at.
Yeah?
I think when I was younger, Ithink it used to be kind of like
murder mysteries.
I used to enjoy throwing onthose shows and trying to- I
can't do it, bro.
No, because sometimes it's likeyou try to solve the shit while
you're watching it You know whatI mean?
And I think that's what I kindof enjoy.
But then once I realized, I'mlike, oh shit, this, this is not
solvable.
Yeah.
And that type of stuff's bad forus.

(09:18):
sorry y'all my phone's connectedto the bluetooth that's funny um
yeah bro that that uh thosetypes of like murder mystery
shows bro this shit's bad for usit is bro you know like bro this
is real people real peoplesometimes yeah most of the time
the real people i'm like man nowi'm over here investigating some
uh some missing person in ohioyeah so i'm like now sometimes

(09:39):
that shit could be too much so ithink it like it makes the world
seem a lot more dangerous thanit really is too that's what
those shoes that's what thoseshows do do a lot of the time,
bro.
That is true.
I remember I was listening tothis podcast, bro, and they
talked about like...
crime rates compared to like the90s and like the 80s are way

(10:01):
lower than when, like ourparents were kids pretty much,
right?
So it's way lower, right?
But the thing is people's ideasof crime are still very
heightened.
People feel like crime in theirmind is a lot worse than what it
actually is.
You know, and they feel likethere's a lot more dangerous
people out there than what isactually out there, you know?
Is it because like the cellphone?
Yeah, and a lot of that has todo with those true crime like TV

(10:25):
shows.
You know what I mean?
Again, when you watch like thosemurder mysteries and stuff like
that, it puts it into your mindthat, you know, A lot of this is
way more common than it actuallyis.
You know what I mean?
It's going to be my neighbor.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We think it's a lot more commonthan it actually is.
And we think like, you know,getting like trafficked and

(10:45):
stuff like that is just like,you know, it's insane rates.
Yeah.
You're going to get murderedfrom like the dude across the
street.
And it's not, it's really notlike that.
You know what I mean?
It happens, but it's not as highas we actually think it is.
And then when I think aboutthat, like the deeper
implications about that, bro,it's for, it's for mind control
pretty much.
Again, it's, it's copaganda in asense.

(11:06):
It's again, you make peoplescared of each other to make it
seem like we need somebody elsenow to protect us.
You know what I mean?
It makes it seem like theaverage American, you know, is
like, is capable of doing thingslike that.
Like that type of stuff isharmful, you know, especially
when you just watch it over thelongterm.
Yeah.
And then you kind of watch itlike spew to social media.

(11:27):
Yeah.
It gets gross.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It gets gross.
Yeah.
I remember, uh, watching Southpark back in the day and they
talked about that too.
They called it a, it was anepisode.
What was it called?
They called it murder porn.
Stop.
So it's they, yeah, they prettymuch talked about how like,
couples kind of watch that typeof stuff couples that have been
together for a while watch thattype of stuff it almost is like

(11:48):
foreplay in a way bro like tolive out their like weird
fantasy that idea of think aboutthis think about how common yeah
think about how common it usedto be back in the day for for
couples to be like oh you knowmy husband's a pain in my ass my
wife's a pain in my ass so whenthey watch these shows about you
know husbands killing theirwives or wives trying to hire
people bro that's like foreplayto them almost wait so like they

(12:11):
like act out shit like that it'sIt's not so much acting out, but
like he like kidnapped his wifeand like fucks her in their
mind, in their mind, itstimulates that same type of
arousal that like sexstimulates.
So those types of things thatlike, um, those circuits in your
brain that control like pleasureand fear, almost like they're
similar.
You know what I mean?
It's like the same circuits.

(12:32):
You know what I mean?
So a lot of the times you canget that.
Yeah.
You could get that type ofstuff, you know, crisscross to
where, yeah.
To where people think pain, youknow, is good.
So think about this.
Think about how common it'sgoing to get a little freaky
right now, but think about likethat 50 shades of gray.
Yeah.
Women who like to be likechoked, you know what I mean?
Again, That's painful, but whenyou're doing it in a certain

(12:55):
context, it becomes pleasurable.
Yeah, that's true.
You know?
That is true.
So it's almost, it's the sameway with the murder mystery type
of shit, bro.
It's kind of the same shit.
Yeah, it's foreplay, bro.
It's foreplay, and it just makesit a little, it adds another
level of thrill, bro.
That's true.
You know what I mean?
That is true.
Yeah.
Nah, I can't imagine playingthat out.

(13:17):
Walking the house with a knife,like, bitch.
I don't think it's so muchwalking the house with a knife.
And a boner.
That's

SPEAKER_00 (13:23):
what it is right there.
You said the boner.

SPEAKER_02 (13:35):
Nah, that's why.
I'm not just like some niggasdoing crazy shit.
Nah, that's true.
Nah, that is true, though, man.
Well, yeah, it's that type ofstuff right there, bro.
No, that's just true, man.
That shit can get really weird.
It can get weird.
That's why I try to...
Back to, like, reality TV,though.
That's why I really try to...
Like I said, I'm cautious aboutwhat I watch.

(13:58):
Don't think I'm, like, antianything.
Yeah, yeah, of course.
I'm like, oh, y'all shouldn't bewatching that.
But I'm very cautious about...
Like, we'll check it.
Yeah, and I...
And when I watch things, bro, Iunderstand that there's, you
know, there's certain pros andcons, like there's certain
negative stuff that I'm going tobe consuming, bro.
Like when I watch love Islandand, and that type of shit, I
know that like, that's justpornography in a sense.

(14:18):
And it's mad toxic.
Yeah, bro.
It's again, think about how manypeople like young people, right?
Their whole ideas of like datingand relationships are based off
of those types of shows or.
what they perceive the othergender to be is based off of
what they seen on like loveIsland and stuff like that.
It's like red balloon.
Dead ass, dead ass, bro.
Yeah.

(14:38):
In their mind, they're supposedto find some like nigga who's
six, three who's tatted.
Yeah.
Who always got her shirt off.
And then it's like, you'resupposed to find, I mean, I'm
not, I think it gets even darkerto think about a young man who
thinks that's what you need tolook like in order to get women.
And same thing with the women,too.

(14:58):
They think that's what you needto look like in order to attract
men.
And it's like, if I want a dudeto look like him, if I want a
dude to look like Pepe.
I'm invested, bro.
If I want a dude to look likePepe, I got...
That's what I'm saying, bro.
It's toxic.
And that's why I like watchingcertain types.
I like watching Love Island whenI want to see...
objectively good looking peoplehave to date and stuff like

(15:21):
that.
If I want to get that ditchscratched, I'll watch Love
Island.
But if I want to see likeregular degular looking people,
you got to watch Love is Blind.
Those, bro, those are someregular-looking motherfuckers,
bro.
What the fuck is Love is Blind?
Love is Blind or Married atFirst Sight.
Those are the reality TV shows.
Like the regular jokes?
Bro, they got theregular-looking folks on there.
I'm not trying to, like, pick upthe random nigga who's hot and

(15:41):
works at Panera.
Yeah, nah, nah.
It's not some dude where it'slike, bro, this dude, he's
clearly a 10, bro.
Like, why you got him on theshow?
They find the one girl who's ateacher.
Where do you find this teacherbaddie?
Nah, it's some regular-lookingpeople on there, bro.
It's some regular-looking folkson that show, bro.
And it's like, this how theynavigate the world.
That's why I kind of like that alittle more, bro, because you
really get to see more of that.

(16:01):
Like people like to say like,oh, looks don't matter to me.
But on Love is Blind, you reallyget to see, oh, do looks matter
to you or not, nigga?
It's like that.
Yeah.
Hey, how would people be cappinglike shit?
I got to watch that, bro.
They'd be like, bro, I'm allabout the personality.
And then the minute they see theperson who they've been
chit-chatting with for a month,they've been like, man, I never
thought I could fall in lovewith somebody, you know, without

(16:21):
seeing them.
It's a little different.
It starts feeling a littledifferent.

UNKNOWN (16:26):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (16:26):
I gotta check that shit out.
Oh my God.
No, Love is Blind is crazy.
I gotta watch that, bro.
I never seen that.
Yeah.
And then same thing with Marriedat First Sight, bro.
So it's like you go, like whenyou apply for the show, they
take like a...
like a personality assessmenttype of thing so they try to get
like a real good like idea ofyou know what type of person you

(16:48):
are and then it's pretty muchjust like an arranged marriage
okay you know what i mean soagain you've never met this
person before the first time youmeet you guys are going to get
married and then you guys aretrying to it's like that yeah
you guys are married and that'sthe whole gist of the show is
the show like e It's on one ofthose.

(17:08):
Okay, I think I might saw acommercial.
Like A&E or something like that.
Is the nigga with the no neck,Abe?
Oh, no, that's 90 Day Fiance.
Oh, okay, okay, wrong show,wrong show, wrong show.
Bro, all the same genre, though.
It's all around.
I put that in the same genre.
I think I've seen clips forthat.
Nah, no neck, and that was aclassic, too, bro.
You seen that, though?
I watched all that, too, bro.

(17:31):
Freaking new man.
Nah, that's funny, bro.
Hey, I'm going to tell y'all,man.
Y'all, man...
Put the masculinity to the side,bro.
Enjoy some TV, nigga.
I can't.
You're not too tough, bro.
You're not too tough for LoveIsland.
I can't.
It's a good show, bro.
I remember I watched a littlebit last year because OBJ's
brother was on there.
Yeah.
So then I remember I peakedsomeone there.
I was like, who's thisdark-skinned nigga?
And I was like, he's not likeOBJ.

(17:53):
Then you know how niggas do.
Different mom, you know,different dad, whatever.
So people ask you a little bit.
And I was rocking with it, youknow.
So I was like, I don't know.
But then I was like, I'm overit.
Like, you know, last year wasgood.
But then I'm like, ah.
Here I am again.
I'm watching Love Island.
Bro, what else we got, though,man?
We'll keep it on relationships,bro.
I'm on Love Island to death.

(18:14):
Bro, we was talking about thatstory about that AI couple, bro.
Oh, my Lord.
Jesus Christ.
You want to break it down forthe fans, bro?
All right.
Well, first we're asking thiswas Newman sent me this over the
weekend.
I don't know the dude's name,but it was a dude.
He was breaking down hisrelationship with AI.

(18:35):
Really, he's married to AI, tobe honest, right?
But the AI, Newman's going toget into this a little deeper,
but the AI sounded differentthan normal.
She kind of had an accent.
It was interesting.
And he spent a lot of time withher, right?
They're talking to him about hisrelationship.
He loves her.
They love each other and stufflike that.
Then he knows it cuts to him athome.
I'm like, okay, it cuts to himat home.

(18:55):
There's a woman at the table.
So I'm like, oh, his sister'sthere?
I was like, oh, sister's there.
And then a kid runs on thescreen.
I was like, oh, sister broughther kid.
I was like, oh, that's cool.
Bro, then it cuts, and hiswife's like, oh, I thought it
wasn't enough for him.
Bro, this guy has a wife andkid, and he's married to AI
pretty much.
Bro, having an AI affair, bro.

(19:15):
Yeah, and the wife knows aboutthe affairs, which makes it
weird.
In her mind, at first, she'slike, I don't think I was doing
enough for him.
And I'm thinking, like, bro, AIcan't give you a hug, bro, when
you say that.
So I don't know.
How do you feel about hisrelationship, man?
Because me personally, murdergives me a hug when I'm down,
bro.
Xbox can't hug me, dog.

(19:35):
Bro, it's starting to get realdystopian, bro.
What's going on, bro?
It's getting real dystopian,bro.
It's getting real dystopian,bro.
Where are we getting?
How did we get here?
Honestly, I felt like we'vealways kind of been here.
I felt like it's always been acultural thing.

(19:56):
I feel like throughout culturesof people interacting with
others who are either less thanhuman or more than human and
procreating with them or beingin relationships with them.
You know what I mean?
I think about like, Hey, don'tlet that go over your head.
No, this is a modern iterationof that.
You know what I mean?

(20:16):
Like I think about like, youknow, Greek mythology and stuff
like that.
And you have these stories aboutpeople, about the gods, you
know, procreating with humans.
You know what I mean?
And we understand that the godsare above humans.
You know what I mean?
And they're procreating withthem, right?
Got mermaids and shit.
You feel me?
You feel me?
So again, we know- Goats, halfman, half goat.
Exactly.

(20:37):
Exactly, bro.
So culturally, we know thatthere, that, you know, it's,
there's a pattern of, you know,of this type of stuff I even
think more modern though moremodern think about the movie
like Splice or something likethat you know where again bro
Adrian Brody piped down Splicethat's a good one you know what

(20:57):
I mean and that was a scienceexperiment yeah you know and
again he's messing with you knowgenetics at that point partially
human partially not you knowthink about that bro and then
even like or like the movie Heryou know with Joaquin Phoenix
and Scarlett Johansson that'sthe AI one right yeah that was
the AI one right so think aboutYou know, we've already seen

(21:19):
like that type of theme isalready like, that's true.
It's there.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
It's interesting now to see itreally happen.
Like in front of your eyes, bro.
Yeah.
Real, real life, bro.
It is scary.
Real life.
It is.
It's scary, bro.
It's scary because like, this isthe worst AI is going to be.

(21:40):
You know what I mean?
AI is only going to get better,bro.
Yeah, exactly.
We had an episode back in theday where we talked about the–
with the artificial house.
Oh yeah.
Smart house.
Smart house.
Yeah.
For all the OG fans, bro.
You know what I mean?
Smart house, bro.
And we talked about, uh, thatwas Alexa.
You know what I mean?

(22:01):
Bro, think about this right now.
All right.
This dude fell in love with AIand that's strictly on, on the
audio.
That's strictly just tappinginto his audio senses right now.
Yeah.
They're not even tapping intothe visual yet, bro.
We're not even getting into, youknow, with, with, with, google
vo3 yeah you know and howeventually they're going to be

(22:23):
able to incorporate you knowthose videos and and um create
people from scratch in order tomatch with whatever type of you
know artificial intelligencethat you're creating you know
what i mean like so essentiallywhat that guy did in the video
i'll break it down a little morehe created it was almost like he
created like his own custom GPTso if you have like chat GPT

(22:46):
premium right you could go andyou could you could create like
your own GPTs or even better yetthink about like Instagram how
they have like AI bots who youcould talk to characters yeah
you know so in a sense what hedid too this was like a bro a
really just milquetoast whitedude bro again wife is
milquetoast bro why is his AIchat bot Latina bro you're not

(23:15):
lying bro that was kind of weirdyeah you know so i think about
it in that sense playing on afantasy yeah it is it's it's a
real fantasy right now bro andthat's it's it's such a fantasy
now and like these AI companiesare getting so good at creating
that fantasy bro to where it'slike it's completely it could
completely destroy your life broand again like I said it's funny

(23:37):
now it's a little funny nowbecause it's like it's still
kind of like damn how do you gettricked or how do you fall into
something like that you know butwait until we start getting the
visuals with it though you knowwhat I mean wait until where we
no longer have to wear the wholefull headset for the VR and
niggas could just put on a setof glasses and they got VR and
now you could you could haveyour augmented bitch in front of

(23:58):
you now bro nah dead ass thinkabout it bro think about you
could get an augmented like broselma hayek that's what nick
that's essentially what thatnigga was doing right there bro
but why is it like an episode ofblack mirror it is it is bro
it's even nastier than blackmirror bro it's even nastier
than black mirror bro nahbecause you're not lying because
eventually then it's like niggashave a whole robot yeah then

(24:20):
it's like yo it's like uh what'sthat one movie What's up?
I think it's a movie with MeganFox where she's like a robot.
Oh, yeah.
I know what you're talkingabout.
It's like the wife would comehome to a robot.
It's like, why are you robotsspending so much time together?
Yeah.
That's kind of how I feel.
It's like, yo, it's kind ofgetting to a crazy point.
It's like, I don't know, arelationship with an A.S.

(24:42):
crazy because you kind of damnnear control it.
Exactly.
Because you program the shit.
Exactly.
So almost think about it likethis, bro.
It's really...
it's really there just toservice your needs.
You know what I mean?
Like, again, it's, and that'swhat I mean by like these
companies, bro.

(25:02):
And the people who do thisstuff, bro, they're getting paid
top dollar for, to know how tokeep you addicted because that's
what they're doing right nowwith that dude.
They're tapping into thatnigga's dopamine centers and
shit like that.
And that AI knows exactly whatto say to give them that
dopamine.
Yeah.
Every time, bro.
Every time, bro.
So again, like when I thinkabout, bro, I'm really going to

(25:23):
tie it back to all the otherepisodes, bro.
When I think about what acriminal is, bro, is that not a
criminal act right there, bro?
You know what I mean?
Is that not a criminal act whereniggas is really hijacking, you
know, your neural pathways andshit like that and messing with
the chemicals in your mind.
Again, these are niggas gettingpaid top dollar too.
Again, this is the nefarioustype of stuff we're dealing with

(25:47):
in the world to where it's likea nigga with a PhD is getting
paid big bucks to make sure thatshit keeps on happening.
You know what I mean?
Somebody's getting paid bigdollars to make sure, hey, make
that happen more.
Make sure he can come back tothis.
Exactly.
Make sure it happens more, bro,to the detriment of American
families.

(26:07):
You know what I mean?
Do you think, like, we'reactually going to create some
Skynet shit one day?
No.
So I've been reading up aboutthat, too, because I've been
really worried about, like, AIand stuff like that.
But I don't think we're going tohave Skynet not yet,
potentially, because right now,think about it like this, bro.
How do you feel?
There's so many different,like...

(26:30):
AI, uh, like language models arejust like general intelligence
models right now, bro, to wherein our mind right now, when we
think about AR, when the regularperson thinks about AI, they
think all these AIs are like thesame, you know what I mean?
But right now, since all theseAIs are so new and like these
like general intelligence modelsare so new, they have trouble

(26:50):
like.
transferring information over toone of each other.
So think about it almost likethis.
If I have an American car and Itry to take my computer chip out
of my American car and put itinto a Japanese car, it's gonna
struggle to read the code.
That's how it is for a lot ofthese AI systems right now.
So again, the code, it's hardfor these companies to be able

(27:15):
to make the code that translatesover and works with other AI.
You know what I mean?
So again, to the public eye,these AI companies want us to
believe that like, Right now,they're just running everything.
Like a nigga could click thebutton and tomorrow, bro, it's
skydiving.
It's over, yeah, yeah.
No, it definitely, we are in adire circumstance, but AI right

(27:36):
now and the coordination of it,you know what I mean?
It is not as like coordinated aswe think it

SPEAKER_00 (27:41):
is.
Yeah, and again,

SPEAKER_02 (27:42):
think about it like this, bro.
Because there's so manycompanies right now trying to
compete to be the number one,you know, again, they don't want
to coordinate with each otherright now.
So that's, it's almost like in asense to, niggas being greedy
under capitalism is reallystopping them from being really
taking off yeah being able tomaximize the amount of damage

(28:02):
that they want to do right okaythat makes sense you know what i
mean yeah so i was wonderingabout that i was like i wonder
if like if they really do oneday come together like this is
gonna be dire for us they theycan but again bro it's it takes
a lot bro because again too yougotta put a lot of god to come
together yeah because again howcan you get a company like like
open AI to come together withdeep seek.

(28:24):
You know what I mean?
When it's America and China,again, this like a cold war type
of thing going on right now too.
You know, like again, we're notthe only ones and that's where
we, again, that Americanpropaganda, bro, to where we
think we're the center of theworld.
You know what I mean?
How do we know that we would bethe better companies out there?
Yeah.
How do we know that Skynetcouldn't start in China or

(28:45):
Russia?
Cause they got their shit pop,bro.
They got their shit's advancedtoo, bro.
You know what I mean?
And a Russian.
Oh, man.
Yeah.
I can't imagine like a RussianTerminator with the accent.
A Soviet Terminator.
Damn, bro.
I'll be scared as shit.
Nigga got Khabib wrestling, bro.
Oh, no.
Khabib wrestling.
The T-100.
Oh, no.

(29:06):
Nigga program with Dagestani

SPEAKER_00 (29:08):
wrestling, bro.

SPEAKER_02 (29:11):
Oh, shit.
Oh, my God, nigga.
That's insane.
Hey, that'd be really

SPEAKER_00 (29:16):
crazy.
Terminator got a beard with nomustache, bro.

SPEAKER_02 (29:19):
Hey, yo, you're crazy.
Hey, you're crazy.
Nah, but really think aboutthat, too.
Like, that's what's really, youknow, it's almost like a Cold
War race that's going on.
Nah, yeah, it's true, though.
I do feel like that with themilitary, with AI.
Mm-hmm.
I mean, with the space,depending on who you ask.

(29:41):
Yeah.
I know some people don't believewe went to the moon, but.
But it's in a sense, it's amodern iteration of that right
now.
It's all the same.
Yeah.
That's true.
It's scary, bro.
And it's just, it's justsomething to look out for, bro.
Because again, a story likethis, bro, it's not going to be
like, oh, we're going to hearless of this in the future.
We're going to hear more.
We're going

SPEAKER_03 (30:01):
to

SPEAKER_02 (30:01):
hear more.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
Especially as it gets better.
And then it's going to startgetting darker too, bro.
Because think about, bro, we'vealready seen it with.
It's already been a question nowwhen AI was able to start making
pictures and stuff like that.
Again, people are getting reallybad with the visuals and what
types of things they want togenerate with AI.
Bro, it's already getting kindof weird.

(30:21):
You know what I mean?
It's getting weird.
I've been seeing like right nowpeople are using like fake news
right now.
It's getting weird.
I'm like, oh shit.
It's getting weird, you know?
They're getting better with it.
They're getting better with it.
It's getting weird, bro.
Fuck.
So that's what I'm saying.
And that really, bro, it'sreally going to start causing us
to question a lot of things inour society, bro.
True.
You know, it's really going toopen up the door for some pretty

(30:42):
nasty arguments.
Yeah.
You know, and some pretty nastydebates, bro.
That's true.
You know, so I feel like we justneed to be...
a little more empathetic when wehear stories like this.
Like, yeah, nigga, I'm going tolaugh though.
Don't get it twisted, bro.
Yeah, of course.
When I hear about a niggafalling in love with AI, bro,
it's yeah.
Again, it's like I sent you tobro.

(31:03):
We could possibly be like thegrandparents to some people to
where it's like, damn, mygrandson fell in love with a,
with a robot.
You know what I mean?
I sent you that TikTok, bro.
Bro, that shit was killing me.
You know, by the time we starthaving kids.
Roboticism.
Yeah, yeah.
Robophobia, nigga.
Robophobia.
Yeah.
We're going to be somerobo-phobes, bro.
You know what I mean?

(31:23):
Like, again, I don't want tobash it because, again, it could
be so quick.
We could live in a future towhere when we have kids, bro,
and they've just grown up withAI and artificial intelligence,
bro, that's a common thing forniggas to follow up.
It's like Blade Runner for real.
Deadass.
Blade Runner.
It's nasty, bro.
So again, we need to, it'sfunny, but at the same time,
bro, we need to be cautious andwe need to, again, start

(31:45):
rewiring these ideas in ourbrain about what the enemy looks
like.
You know what I mean?
And what a criminal looks like,because that's criminal, bro.
If you told me in the future, Igot to sit at Thanksgiving table
with saints, kids, AI, roboticbitch, I'll be sick.
Yes.
Cause honestly, think about thistoo.
Think about angry grandpa.

(32:05):
Think about this right now, bro.
Right now.
Well, we're going through this,this argument right now.
It's a political argument aboutbeing transgender, right?
Yeah, bro.
In the future, we could betalking about transhumanism.
We could be talking aboutmotherfuckers, cyborgs, cyborgs
and shit.
We're not that far away fromthat type of future right now,
bro.
How are you going to feel whensomeone has like organic organs

(32:26):
or something?
Exactly.
Robotic organs.
Exactly.
Because again, think about itlike this.
We've already, again dipped ourtoe in the water with that type
of thing when we start thinkingabout pacemakers and stuff like
that's already transhumanismright there you know what I mean
exactly you're already partmachine now imagine your whole
heart's robotic exactly orimagine you're able to transfer
your consciousness into a harddrive or something it's over

(32:48):
niggas can't die it's transhumanbro so think about this bro if
we're already having politicalarguments and debates about you
know whether it's fair for thisand that you know transgender
think about whether it's goingto be fair or not.
We got to compete in the jobmarket with a cyborg, nigga.
With a nigga who got cyberneticimplants, bro.
Bro, he access to internet.

(33:10):
Every answer's in his head, dog.
Every fucking answer.
That's what the fuck I'm talkingabout, bro.
We gotta compete with that niggaon the job market.
Our kids ain't never gettingjobs, bro.
And again, think about, bro.
It's almost like we couldpossibly live in a future, bro,
to where they're trying tofunnel everybody to get those
types of implants.
Yeah, they're trying to.

(33:30):
I remember the Google implant.
They say, bring your visionback, supposedly.
I saw that last year.
You know what it also makes methink about bro i'm so glad
nigga we some movie niggas broi'm glad you're a movie nigga
like me bro it makes me thinkabout that movie in time oh you
remember with jt with jt rightfor all y'all who haven't seen
in time right that was okay thewhole gist of the movie is time

(33:55):
is the is the currency right soagain you have a like a clock
right here on your arm and youget paid in time.
So when you do a job, they, theypay you.
Okay.
So when you go to work, theygive you some extra time.
So billionaires, okay.
Don't get paid in money.
Them niggas practically gotunlimited time, bro.
So that's again, what I thinkabout when I see that movie, I

(34:17):
think about how do you get to apoint where you get everybody to
buy into a system of agreeing toget paid in time?
You know what I mean?
That starts with gettingeverybody comfortable and
believing that we need to havecybernetic implants in order to
be successful to compete in thejob market.
You know what I mean?
That's kind of where it startedfrom, right?

(34:38):
That's where we're startingfrom, bro.
Why they all have that chip inthem?
Yeah, exactly.
Again, so think about it likethis.
We talked about it on the pod,too, with...
um crypto all right crypto onlyhas value because we all buy in
and we say it has value that'sthe same thing within time when
them niggas getting paid likethat bro again they're only

(35:00):
saying that that works becauseeverybody had to have bought in
yeah if you never got the chipthen nigga it'd be something on
your wrist yeah again it wouldjust be a biological clock yeah
but now you know what i mean youactually die because you got
that chip like exactly exactlyso again how do you get
everybody to buy into that chipyou have to go through that
political of of, you know, whenyou start having transhumanism.

(35:21):
You know what I mean?
There has to be politicalpushback.
Nigga, I don't want a chip inme.
Think about it.
Think about it like this.
Niggas don't even want vaccinesin them.
Let alone, now you're going totry to put something in me
that's going to control my time?
I don't want that.
So think about the politicalshit that has to be involved,
you know, in order to do someshit like that.
Yeah, so I feel like, bro, we'rewe're in that space right now.

(35:44):
We're seeing people who work forthese companies, bro.
Like again, these languagemodels, these general
intelligence models, they'regetting paid to be able to know,
to be able to, keep you hookedbro yeah and that's the whole
job yeah and that's a politicalthing too bro that transfers
over to the political arenabecause once they're able to get
enough people hooked enoughpeople to buy in they start

(36:05):
having enough money to influencepolitics and start making hey if
you want to be successful nowand be competitive in the job
market now you got to startdoing something let's get into
our next topic with this what'sup uh elon and trump bro Fuck
Elon, bro.
Elon came on Twitter.
Elon said he helped Trumpinfluence the election online.
Fuck Elon, bro.

(36:26):
And that's, dude.
Oh, it makes me so fucking mad.
He started spilling all the tea.
He wants to start beefing.
And again, I get, okay, you'respilling all the tea.
But what he's just admitting isthat, again, you were complicit.
and messing with our elections,nigga.
You are a foreigner and you camein and dabbled in American
business and influence.

(36:46):
Bro, that sounds like somethingyou get the death penalty for,
nigga.
That sounds like something youget your head chopped off for.
Bro, I paid attention in historyclass, nigga.
Niggas was getting their headschopped off.
That's treason.
That's treason.
Espionage type of shit.
That's some shit you get yourhead cut off for, nigga.
What are we talking about?
Niggas just thinking like, oh,Elon's turning on Trump.

(37:10):
No, nigga should have his headcut off.
I mean, bro, off with his head,nigga.
What are we talking about?
No, what's the other one hesaid?
Trump willingly is going tostart a recession in the second
half.
And that's...
And you know what, bro?
It just ties back to what I'vebeen saying, bro.
That shit's crazy.
Elon's able to say stuff likethis because when we think...
When I say the word criminal,Elon doesn't pop into your mind.

(37:32):
But he's a fucking criminal.
That nigga's for sure acriminal.
Bro, he's more of a criminalthan anybody in jail right now.
He...
Bro, he has harmed more peoplethan anybody in prison right
now.
But the fact that we don'tthink, when I say criminal and
your first thought isn't ElonMusk, that's why he's not in
there.
We need to reframe our minds,bro, so a nigga like Elon can't

(37:54):
get away with this again.
They always get away with it,bro.
Not on my watch.
Not on my watch.
I don't care, bro.
I don't care if it's one personwho listens to this pod for the
rest of my life.
I'm going to continue to callout the bullshit, bro.
That's what it is.
That nigga's treasonous.
You always hate it, Elon.
That nigga's treasonous.
I've always hated him sinceepisode one, bro.

(38:14):
Just know episode one, bro,we've been on the right side of
history.
Nah, it's on YouTube.
Go check that out, bro.
Bro, Elon is an evil nigga.
That is a dastardly nigga, bro.
Nah, Elon's definitely a...
Bro, because we know he's reallyDutch.
We know the history.
Yeah, bro.
That's what I'm saying.
We know the history, bro.
Oh, my God.
Because just imagine if his skinwas just a little bit darker,

(38:35):
they would frame it as somebodyfrom Africa came over here and
messed with our fair and freeelections, nigga.
That's what it is.
An African immigrant came overhere and messed with our fair
and re-elections, bro.
Stop.
That's what it is.
That's true, though.
And you're not lying, though.
That's what it is.
That's literally what happened.

(38:56):
And we're never going to saythat because he's- Off with his
head.
El Salvador.
If anybody else did that, it'sEl Salvador.
And the thing is, I'm not evenradical.
Y'all going to be like, oh, no,you're crazy.
You're too radical.
I'm just fair.
I'm just fair because you knowit's true.
Anybody else, let this have beena Chinese.
Let this have been a nigga fromChina, bro.

(39:18):
China?
You know, that's what I'msaying.
You feel me?
Niggas would have had their day.
Let it have been someone fromthe Muslim religion.
Oh, my Lord.
Don't let it be somebody fromMexico.
I would have lost it.
I would have lost it.
But it's Elon Musk.
Again, we need to start changingour minds, bro.
We need to start reframing ourimaginations, okay?

(39:42):
And stop being so fuckingbrainwashed, people.
When I say criminal, you sayElon.
All right.
That's really what I want youthinking, bro.
When I say criminal, your firstword, Elon.
Not Elon.
Who else on that list?
Trump.
Trump's the main criminal.
Everybody with a billion plus,everybody with 500 million plus
dollars, nigga, you're on thatlist, bro.

(40:02):
You're probably a criminal.
Criminal.
Criminal.
Yeah.
Criminal.
Unless, when I honestly, becauseI was like, unless you did it
through sports, but you'reprobably a criminal too for a
different reason.
Yeah.
Only one who might get a pass,Braun.
I'm probably Curry.
I'm probably Curry.
The NBA goats get a pass.
But it sucks that Tiger's acriminal.

(40:23):
Is Tiger a criminal, bro?
Or did he just cheat on hiswife?
No, I think he got DUI.
He got a criminal record.
He got DUI.
A DUI.
Come on, bro.
I knew a nigga in the army withfour DUIs, bro.
And he was still driving?
And he was an E6, bro.
He had more rank than me.
He was telling me what to do.
That nigga still driving?
Bro, yeah.
He had four DUIs, bro.

(40:44):
Piece of shit.
Come on, bro.
Tiger had one.
It's bad, though.
It's bad.
No, it's bad.
Don't dig and drive.
He had one.
Don't be Henry Ruggs.
Don't dig and drive.
Nah, because honestly, when Ithink about it, I'm like, that
nigga, yeah, he only takes one.
Now it's like, you're the badguy forever.
Yeah, that's true.
That's true.
Not an Elon Trump shit isreally.

(41:05):
Are you sick of it?
No, because it reminds me to broof like, again, I'm just going
to keep on referencing myself ona pod, bro.
We talked about it on a past podto about when I talked about
snowfall and how we're socomfortable with admitting that
the CIA and the government doesshady shit.
And we just.

(41:25):
We're making it intoentertainment now at this point.
Season two.
You know, that's what I'msaying, bro.
That's what Snowfall isadmitting.
Oh, fuck.
Is admitting that the CIA isvisually showing you, too, how
they put drugs and weapons inthe black community, nigga.
It's showing you that now, bro.
And it's no longer...
Again, 40 years ago, bro, peoplecalled it a conspiracy theory.

(41:49):
Yeah, now we know.
Now it's entertainment, nigga.
Now it's entertainment, bro.
And that's the same way it feelslike with...
with Elon, bro.
It feels like they skipped, ornot even that they skipped the
conspiracy, bro.
It feels like niggas aren't ableto attach that, bro, like it's
not a conspiracy, bro.
It's really Elon and Trump andthese rich niggas making

(42:10):
everything bad.
Yeah, yeah, facts.
Like this whole idea of tryingto expose him implies that you
knew this whole time and youwere cool with it until y'all
had beef.
That was your mans.
That was your mans.
No, but didn't they make upalmost?
And again, he's already airedall the dirt out, though, bruh.
True.
That's what I'm saying.
That's your man's, though.

(42:31):
I saw Elon roll back in theWhite House with a black eye or
something.
I think Trump put him back inhis place.
Ain't no way, bruh.
You didn't see that picture?
I didn't see that.
That's AI.
Maybe I got fooled.
No one's black in Elon's eye,bro.
There was a picture going aroundthe internet of Elon with a
black eye.
I might have got AI.
I might have got AI.
No one's black in Elon's eye,bro.
I might have got some tailed.

(42:51):
They might have got me.
I don't believe it, but hey.
I might have got Santel.
Bro, who's going to punch Elon,bro?
Bro, the Secret Service, nigga.
They don't got that much power,bro.
It's Trump.
Trump don't got more money thanElon.
Yeah, but they beefing.
Elon tells, bro, Elon tellsTrump what the fuck.
But when you beefing, you got touse United States power.
You got to break the laws alittle bit.

(43:13):
I feel that.
Bro, you didn't think theClintons didn't have some people
killed every now and then?
Oh, they did?
Yeah, you got to abuse yourpower every now and then.
You know what I mean?
Like...
Makes sense.
Never mind.
I'm going through a deepconspiracy.
No, it's not.
It's not, bro.
It's the truth.
But again, we just were tellingourselves, oh, it's just the

(43:34):
truth.
But it's the truth.
Trump had him roughed up alittle bit.
Like, oh, you may have moremoney than nigga, but United
States government.
United States government.
Like Birdman.
Bird! Come here, youngin'.
Dude, fuck Birdman, bro.
You know what?
Now you got me thinking aboutyoung money, nigga.
Stop.
I don't want to do it, bro.
I've been seeing this flatter.
I've been seeing the destructionof the internet, bro.

(43:57):
Niggas have been killing LilWayne, man.
God damn it, bro.
How's this time, bro?
What they been killing Waynefor, though, bro?
Man, the Carter 6 dropped, andno one asked for the Carter 6.
I think he's kind of wateringdown the Carter series.
I don't want to say it, but howcome you can't just name it
something different?
You can't just name thisChristmas album.
I don't give a fuck what younamed it.
When you name it the Carter 6,we're going to think the

(44:19):
Carter...
You know, the Carter series,like with that level, you know.
Carter 4 or 5 was already kindof like, you know.
The Carter 4 was, it was, it wascool.
Yeah, yeah.
It was all right.
We definitely didn't need aCarter 5.
Yeah, so like 6 was alreadylike, ooh.
So Carter 6 comes out.
It's getting killed on theinternet, you know.
Some people, it makes reviews.
I mean, still did good numbers,of course.

(44:40):
Like 150, I think, first week.
So it could be number one album.
It's still Lil Wayne, you know.
Lil Wayne comes in the era ofdoing a million hard copies, you
know.
Yeah.
Still Wayne, but...
Some of the bars on there.
I ran it a little bit, man.
Some of the bars on there.
It was typical Wayne.
Typical Wayne.
Still showing good flip words.
Rap good.
Beat selection wasn't the best.
But me, he talked off mic.

(45:00):
How many times can I hear LilWayne have sex with foreign
girls?
Talk about eating the box.
He got 12 Bugattis.
He been skateboarding for 20years at this point.
All right.
And he live in Miami.
I already know this about him.
Right.
And, you know, he's on the coastsomewhere with a girl from

(45:20):
Madrid, and he's ate her box.
That's pretty much, you know,he's smoking the strong.
You know, it's classic Lil Waynebars.
And I was like, you know, butI'm like, I think I'm over it.
Yeah.
So I wanted to ask you, like, atone point, like, and then we got
the Hove, we got the Hove upthere.
At one point, kind of like,because I know some people like
4-4-4, so some people say Hovedid it the right way.
Like, how do artists go about,like, dropping an album as,

(45:43):
like, an adult?
Yeah.
When you're in your 40s, late30s, how do you go about
dropping music when you're like28 to compare to when you're 38,
40?
How do you transition that?
Do it like Nas.
See, a nigga like Nas, bro, whenyou listen to Nas' new shit, you
could tell there's stillpersonal growth going on with
Nas, bro.

(46:03):
You could tell that Nas is stilldoing some shit, bro.
You know what I mean?
When I hear Wayne...
When I hear Wayne, bro...
There's no growth.
There's no growth.
Again, nigga, we've beenlistening to Wayne for 20 years.
We've been listening to LilWayne for 20 years.
It's the same Lil Wayne.

(46:24):
If anything, it's even gottenworse, bro, because nigga don't
got the same hunger.
At this point, too, when youreally think about it, a nigga
like Wayne has been richerlonger than he was ever poor.
And somebody like that, too,what are we talking about now?
You know what I mean?
Again, I don't want to hearWayne rap about the streets.

(46:46):
If he's rapping about that richshit, bro, this is a bad climate
to do it in.
I said it on the last part.
If a nigga's flexing on me inthis climate right now, I'm
taking his disrespect.
You flexing on me in thisclimate right now?
With these prices, bro?
With this gas?
With these eggs?
All right?

(47:06):
With all this shit going onright now, it's disrespect.
That's a hostile act, niggas.
And the thing is, bruh, and thething is, bruh.
You be killing me with that.
Nah, because the thing is, bruh,if I'm being for real.
I enjoy luxury rap sometimes.
I do.
I can't lie.
I'm not gonna act like I don't.
I can't lie.
I do.
But the thing is, too, I couldget that luxury rap from so many

(47:27):
different people, bro, thataren't Lil Wayne.
That is true.
Especially now, too.
I could get it from somebodywho...
Even if they're going to rapabout luxury, they still going
to at least rap about some blackcommunity luxury nigga.
True.
You know what I mean?
True.
They still going to, at least ifthey going to talk about, you
know, capital, they going totalk about black capital.
Wayne don't bro.
Wayne does not offer anything ofsubstance other than creative

(47:49):
bars.
And again, very creative rapper.
You know what?
Bro, top five all-timelyricists, nigga.
Again, multiple classic albums,bro.
Easily, bro.
Classic mixtapes.
It would have been really goodjust to see Wayne sell off into
the sunset after Carter IV, bro.
Exactly.
Again, we know he's rich, bro.
We know the money's there.
How much more do we need to seeit, bro?

(48:11):
Bro, I would have really lovedWayne to like, I don't know
behind the scenes beef and stufflike that.
I know the rumblings and stuff,you know, in the street, but
fucking, I would really love forWayne to like really mentor
Drake.
But I don't know what happenedthere between those two to where
they broke up and don't reallyinteract a lot.
It's interesting to see whereit's like.
I really would have loved to seehow that really would have
flourished.

(48:32):
If Wayne really mentored Drake.
Because now we talk about Drakenot being the rapper.
He's more a pop star.
He went the different route.
Well, no.
Let's look at it like this.
What if Wayne did mentor Drake?
Like behind the scenes?
Yeah.
What if this is the product ofWayne's mentorship?
That's even sicker.
Again, I don't think Wayne hasthat much to offer.

(48:52):
as far as being a mentor.
But I meant a rapping ability.
I've listened to the music.
Wayne can rap.
Wayne can rap.
It don't mean Wayne could be amentor.
True.
That is true.
Again, nothing about Lil Wayne,when I see Wayne, says a
leadership to me.
He could be a good quarterback.

(49:13):
I don't even think he's aquarterback.
Nothing about Wayne saysleadership to me.
He's a diva.
He's a receiver.
Wayne, when I see a nigga likeWayne, bruh, It does not strike
me as leadership.
It does.
I don't think humility.
I don't think any of thequalities that are needed to be
a mentor.
Now, Wayne does strike me assomeone who's like very like.

(49:35):
Pompous, like very like he doesstrike me as that way.
I just can't imagine someone tryto teach me how to like, you
know.
Yeah.
So much.
That's what I'm saying.
Like and that's when I thinkabout Drake and the qualities he
has.
They seem about similar tolittle Wayne.
They do.
Again, they do.
Drake's been around for a while,too.
We've been listening to Drakefor about 20 years also.
The same bars.

(49:56):
The same bars.
The same bars.
Bro, what are they saying?
Dazed and Confused, bro?
Drake's the same.
He's the same guy as MatthewMcConaughey from Dazed and
Confused.
All right?
Drake keeps on getting older.
His girlfriend's is the sameage.
We've been seeing it for 20years.
He's a noob.

(50:16):
And like I said, I think thatthat's a result of Wayne's
mentorship right there.
I think, again, Drake alsodoesn't show any leadership
qualities.
I don't think Drake can mentor anigga either, bruh.
And we saw that firsthand, bro.
I mean, some of y'all are thesame age.
Some of y'all are younger orolder.
It depends.
You know what I mean?
But remember that era of OVO?

(50:37):
Yeah.

UNKNOWN (50:37):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (50:38):
OVO went nowhere.
They went nowhere.
I remember when OVO firststarted.
Party next door, all thesepeople.
And I was like, damn, bro, partydid not turn out.
Nigga, Makonnen.
Bro, Makonnen.
Bro, Makonnen's career fuckingdisappeared after he fucked with
Drake.
The fucking vampire, bro.
Yeah, I'm like, nah, yeah.
Division, I fuck with them.
Their career kind of wentlike...

(50:58):
A lot of artists that went toOVO.
Again, them niggas aren'tleaders, bro.
Yeah, it don't work out.
Them niggas, bro, again, not...
I know we hear it from some rapniggas about, you know, when I
get on, I'm putting the team on.
A lot of these niggas don't raplike that.
Yeah, exactly.
Drake's not saying that.
Wayne's not saying that.
When they get on, nigga, they'reon.
They're on.
They're on.
And you're left behind.
Sorry, nigga.

(51:19):
Sorry, bro.
Yeah, that's how I feel.
And that's what it is.
When I listen to Wayne, when Ilisten to Drake, Snoop, all them
niggas, they're not, bro, theydon't care.
And I feel bad, bro.
I feel bad.
But yeah, that's where we're at,though.
That's where we're at, bruh.
That's where we're at.
Shit is political, bruh.
Yeah, I do.
Shit is political, bruh.
A lot of these dudes probablyreally ain't friends behind the
scenes.
They're not, bruh.
That's kind of what I've beenthinking, too.

(51:41):
They're not.
It's business.
It's money.
And that's the thing.
Why should we think that they'refriends behind the scenes?
They don't say that in themusic.
If we just go strictly based offof music, it's strictly about
money, bitches.
business and LLCs type of shit.
They tell us.
I did want to tell you too,fucking earlier, Pusha T came
out and dissed Travis Scott andhe was saying how Travis Scott

(52:01):
has no loyalty.
He makes music with any niggawho's hot.
And I was like, yeah, Travis dodo that.
And I'm like, does Travis makemusic with Drake when he's
beefing with him?
He make music with Drake whenhe's beefing with Pharrell.
Travis do this and work out withhim.
He got no loyalty.
When I think about a nigga likeTravis Scott, I don't think
upstanding character.
Yeah, he ain't got no loyalty.
Come on, bruh.
I'm like, yeah.
I'm like, Push ain't lying.

(52:21):
A lot of these niggas, they justmake music with Yeah.
And it's by design.
It's by design that you getthese selfish, dumb niggas who
don't care about anybody else bythemselves, but themselves.
It's by design that these arethe, these are the top niggas,
you know, in commercial music.
Yeah.
You know, it's by design.

(52:42):
I'll move on one more.
It's by design.
We're going to keep it on music.
I still move on a little bit.
I know Sabrina Carpenter droppedthe album.
I don't even listen to SabrinaCarpenter.
He said he never heard or seenit before.
I've never even seen a pictureof Sabrina Carpenter.
But for everyone who knowsSabrina Carpenter, recently she
had an album cover come out andit was like her on the floor

(53:02):
being a dog walk pretty much.
And I just came over to sayhonestly, I'm not sick of seeing
her.
It is what it is, but I justfeel like she's like the white,
sexy red.
And this is not like an originalthought.
People probably might have saidthis before.
But I just feel like it'sinteresting.
It's not probably new,obviously.
It's probably happened withBritney Spears and some of the

(53:24):
other people throughout time.
But I just do feel like when weget the white pop star who's
like sexualized and all thatsame stuff, it's like classy.
You know what I mean?
It's like cute.
It's fun.
Yeah, it's fun.
Then when the black sister doesit, it's like ghetto...
It's ratchet, you know.
That's called baby mamaactivity.
There's all types of crazy nameson the internet, you know.

(53:46):
So I was just interested in,like, every time I get a nice
pop star who does the samethings that, you know, some of
our black stars are doing, whichI don't like sex work music that
much because I do think it'sinsane.
Like, talking about Free My BabyDaddy, Free My Nigga, I do think
some of that shit's insane.
You know what I mean?
But I do think it's interestingwhen you get the opposite
version of, like, a white popstar and it's, like, cute or
it's, like...
i like bbc i like i like gettingdp'd he's like it's cute that's

(54:10):
what she's singing about kind ofnigga yeah she'd be she'd be
she'd be kind of saying likeshit like that but it'd be like
in a singing form yo i'm gladi've never listened to sabrina
carpenter like that bro it's boynot not literally but like you
know what i mean it's like it'slike slipped in there you know
what i mean that's crazy it'slike it's like it's kind of like

(54:32):
No, I kind of like that 80s R&B.
Like, you know, like when niggasbe like, oh, she got the big
apple, you know.
She was talking about likeniggas big sticks, you know what
I mean?
She's trying to ride the bighorse, you know.
She talks like that.
All that like 80s R&B thing.
That's kind of how she talks.
Yeah, they talk aboutoverloading with passion.
Yeah, that's kind of like.
Exploding with passion.
She's trying to be stuff, youknow, like all types of crazy

(54:54):
shit.
She wants to be filled with joy.
And it's like, what the fuck isshe talking about?

UNKNOWN (55:00):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (55:00):
It's kind of stuff like that, but it is a little,
technically a little lessraunchy than Sexy Red.
It's not so up front.
Yeah.
But to me, it's all the same.
I'll just be like, yo, niggasreally be like rocking with it
though.
That's crazy though.
I'm like, it is what it is.
I didn't know she made that typeof music.
I don't know why in my mind,whenever I heard Sabrina
Carpenter, I just think like,like a branch of Taylor Swift.

(55:22):
Nigga, that's what I thought.
That's always been my mind.
Until my girl played me a songand I was like, what is this
like?
Pop 80s.
It sounds like a nigga talkingslick, but from a girl's
version.
I'm trying to see your bighorse.
What the fuck is she talkingabout?
That's interesting.
What's she talking about?
Yeah, no, I try to stay awayfrom that type of shit right

(55:42):
there.
When I even think about...
I'm not even going to start withthat, bro.
He's going to get too deep.
Yeah, I'm going to get too deepright now, bro.
Get too deep, bro.
Let's keep it pushing.
Keep it pushing.
Should we go Andrew Cromer?
What you got for us?
Nah, bro.
Let's go.
Let's still keep it light.
Let's keep it entertaining, bro.
Harold and Kumar, bro.

(56:03):
Oh, yes.
You're right.
Let's keep it entertaining, bro.
Let's still keep it light.
I did see a new Harold and Kumarmovie is coming out for your OG,
for some of your older fans.
Harold and Kumar.
Right.
white castle you know tickingcarnival bay uh they even had
the 3d christmas that was youknow that was so solid bro it's
a good seasonal flick yeah thatwasn't that wasn't bad bro so
now we're talking about a newherald and kumar um in the you

(56:25):
know in this new climate i wantto ask you bro how that movie
being so like you know vulgarjokes for everybody um it's not
very pc movie you know so i wantto ask you how that movie do in
this era I think it could stilldo good, bro.
I think there's nothing wrong,bro, with the jokes that Harold
and Kumar had back in the daybecause it was getting on
everybody, bro.

(56:45):
Nobody was safe.
Middle Easterns weren't safe.
Black folks weren't safe.
White folks weren't safe.
Nobody was safe.
Everyone was good.
Again, when it's equal likethat, bro, and it's just...
It's almost in the sense of likewhat South Park used to be back
in the day or Family Guy back inthe day where it's like, as long
as you getting on everybody thesame and it's honest too, bro,
you're not digging intostereotypes, bro.

(57:07):
It could be cool.
You know what I mean?
Because didn't one of them likerecently come out as being like
gay too as well?
Yeah, low-key, I low-key thinkone of them is gay or bisexual
or something.
Was it Kumar?
Yeah, I think low-key.
And that's what I'm saying.
Like, again, like...
That movie could be successful,bro, but I don't want to see,
like, oh, we're not going totouch on, like, gay stuff.
But they're going to make blackjokes.

(57:28):
You know what I mean?
But they had Neil Patrick, sothey shouldn't do that no more.
Because he's also gay in reallife.
So I'm like, they kind of dokeep it cool.
I'm with you, though.
I mean, we're OG comedy fans.
You know, we grew up when movieswere super bad and shit like
that, bro.
Well, the comedy was a littleedgy, you know?
So I do hope they come back.
And I definitely, yeah, I'mgoing to tap in just because,

(57:48):
bro, I think...
We do need more just like cultytype of comedy movies to come
back, bro.
Yeah, I miss that, bro.
We need to start supportingmovies and stuff like that that
aren't blockbuster hits anymore.
Yes, I miss that, bro.
You know?
I know we talked about thisbefore off mic, how like Netflix
and streaming service ruinedthat.
Yeah.
But it just sucks.
I miss the days where like amovie didn't have to make$100

(58:09):
million.
Yeah.
Again, I just want to beentertained for a little bit.
Yeah, bro.
Like, I hope that, like, and Ihope to hate that, like,
everything's so skewed by that,where it's like, movie's doing
bad, I'm going to pull it fromthe theaters quick.
Yeah.
And, like, tickets are already$25, so it's like, I can't even
take a chance on it now.
I'm just going to stay at homeand watch it.
And that's what sucks.
It's like, back in the day, Iknow tickets were priced a
little cheaper,$10, and youcould take a chance on movies.

(58:30):
Yeah, because you know what getsme now, too, bro?
I'm like, I think about this,bro.
Two of, like, my all-timefavorite movies, bro, is School
of Rock.
And Joe Dirt, bro.
Damn.
Those aren't high-budget movies,nigga.
I don't think those arehigh-budget movies.
You know what I mean?
I don't even think they made alot of money on the back end
either, bro.
Maybe it's like DVD and shit.
Yeah, maybe.
Over time, yeah.

(58:51):
But again, I know School of Rockdidn't make 100 mil.
I don't think School of Rock did100 mil.
I don't think it did 100 mil,bro.
You know what I mean?
Let me look it up.
I feel like Joe Dirt didn't.
Joe Dirt definitely didn't do100 mil, bro.
School of Rock is actually agood movie to me.
Yeah.
Because what year is that?
Like, 03?
Yeah.

(59:11):
That was a good movie, bro.
Fuck.
Honestly, just Jack Black.
Oh, they did.
They did.
Okay, you know what?
My bad.
My bad, yeah.
Yeah, they did.
How much cost to make, though?
$131.
How much cost to make, you say?
What's the budget?
$35 million budget.
Yeah, that's not bad, bro.
That's not bad at all.
Niggas almost tripled.
Yeah, Morning Trip.
Yeah, that's good.

(59:32):
That's real good.
Morning Trip, when I think aboutthat, I'm just like...
That's that era, though.
Yeah, that's that era, bro,where you could get a certain
type of movie, bro.
And it was, bro, it was a goodmovie.
And niggas wasn't...
Niggas wasn't worried about howmuch it was going to make, bro.
It's for the love, bro.
Like, when I watch Joe Dirt,bro, that's for the love of
making a movie, nigga.
That's a classic.
It's a good movie.

(59:52):
That's a classic.
It's a good movie, bro.
Nah, I'm with you, bro.
And I think about how much arthave we been robbed of as of
lately, bro, because amotherfucker doesn't want to,
they don't want to pay, youknow, for a$10 million film.
I think a lot, bro.
You know?
It's like we're in an era where,like, we're spending a lot on
movies for a reason.
Like, we're getting away frompractical effects, which is
really weird.
And we're getting more into likeCGI and like AI and all this

(01:00:15):
other stuff, which is likereally weird.
Cause I cost more money to do.
So I was like, we're gettingthese bigger budgets and like,
it's not really art no more.
It feels like we're gettingbigger budgets and the movies
are more like, but we just sawThunderbolts was damn and
fucking make a good return.
And it's like, I hate to keepshitting on Marvel because we
love Marvel.
Oh, fuck Marvel.
I don't love Marvel.
Well, I love actual Marvel.
The MCU is kind of losing me,bro.

(01:00:37):
The MCU.
But all those cartoons and someof the comic books are still
firing at me.
I still watch cartoons, you knowwhat I mean?
Or fucking old school.
Maybe an old movie, not the newones.
But we keep seeing like now,even like we saw with Sinners.
Not that I always go back to it,but I love Sinners.
We saw like at first big...
name brand movie productionsthey won't take us like a chance
on that and that's like that wasonly what 90 million dollars 80

(01:00:59):
million dollars so it's kind offunny when you see like even
when it does come to pure artand you do got to spend a little
money people are still hesitantbut we'll make a fucking iron
man 6 you know what i mean we'regonna make a thor 5 or we're
gonna make a remake going to seejaws 5.0 yeah and it's like damn
but what happened to like tryingto like fun original stories
like you said yeah Because to acertain extent, bro, when I

(01:01:21):
think about like Marvel movies,bro, and especially the fact
that we keep on getting contentthat nobody is specifically
begging for, bro.
Nobody was begging forThunderbolts, bro.
Nobody cared about it.
So again, when I think aboutthat, the fact that they keep on
releasing stuff.
that people aren't asking for,to me, it feels like there's a

(01:01:41):
deeper purpose behind that.
That's where I think about thepropaganda, bro.
We can't get Blade.
Yeah, we can't get Blade.
Niggas been wanting Blade.
For 20 years, bro.
That's what I'm saying, bro.
Niggas want a Blade, bro.
Can't get Blade.
That's what I'm saying.
We can't get the shit that we'vebeen asking for, bro.
You want Moon Knight?
Nigga, Moon Knight.
And it's just like, bro, nobodyfucking asked.
Nobody asked.

(01:02:01):
I didn't want black CaptainAmerica, nigga.
I don't care.
I don't care about, you know,now you want to be comic book
accurate.
All of a sudden I didn't ask forthat, bro.
Don't go there, bro.
That's really what it is.
That's a black cat.
That's really what it is.
I can't let the black cat didn'tmake me fall away.
It kind of like pure propaganda.

(01:02:21):
It does.
That's what it is, bro.
I'm going to keep, I'm going tokeep on saying this, bro.
This idea of just trying to puta black person in a role that
isn't specifically written for ablack person, bro.
It's not enough for me.
And I could tell.
Because it kind of felt like, Iknow people are like, well, in
the comic, he becomeseventually.
Yes, nigga, we know.
But that's not the point.

(01:02:42):
The point is, it felt like theywent into the climate they were
in and it was like, oh, let'smake a black captain.
Exactly.
Let's capitalize off the BLM andall this stuff.
Let's capitalize off of this.
Exactly.
And that's where it felt sick.
Especially when niggas talkabout in the comics, like,
nigga, Marvel's been around forfucking 70-something years.
There's a lot of comics talkingabout, they went a lot of
different directions withCaptain America.

(01:03:03):
Yeah, it wasn't like it just,like, It was Captain America and
then, you know, fucking Falcon.
Like, that was the only otheroption.
Nigga, they've been, bro,there's so many different
variations of how they could goand approach the story.
So any way that they do approachit is political.
Like you said, they did it forthe climate to try to pander to
niggas.
Fresh off of Wakanda.

(01:03:23):
They want to pander to niggas.
And that's why it's like, youcould do it the right way.
Like you said, why can't youjust give us Blade?
Give us Luke Cage.
Luke Cage was rocking.
Bro, we love, bro, had him inHarlem.
But again, when you do that,though, you're forcing the
character to have to deal withreal issues.
It's a lot easier to makeeverything happen in space
because you don't have to dealwith real political issues, bro.

(01:03:45):
You can mask a lot of thepropaganda because it's like,
hey, look, it's happening toaliens.
Or like we talked about lastweek, bro, when we talked about
Avatar was representing NativeAmericans.
You know, you're able to talkabout those things without
necessarily.
Yeah.
Oh, no, it's it's Avatar.
Oh, no.
Yeah.
and it's like no nigga likeagain let's just keep it real
let's stop all the symbolism andlet's just make a movie about

(01:04:07):
native americans then bro let'sstop all the avatars and let bro
let's let's just give us whatpeople really want to see they
don't want to do that yeahthat's where it gets nasty
because again it's political brobecause i gotta add something to
it it gets nasty well it's likehere's here's a movie about
aliens and here's a movie aboutcowboys and there's aliens
cowboys aliens And a sprinkle ofNative Americans.

(01:04:28):
It's like, oh, youmotherfuckers.
Because again, dude, when you dothat type of stuff, bro, when
you center a movie and you makethe protagonist, bro, you make
them a person of color, bro.
If you want to be historicallyaccurate, a lot of the times,
and it means that white folksare going to have to be
portrayed as the villain, bro.

(01:04:48):
And that's, again, that's wherea white audience, bro, they're
not going to be able to acceptthat.
You know what I mean?
I've heard podcasts where theytalked about white viewership.
They don't want to make blackwomen the lead role because a
lot of white viewership has ahard time identifying with a
black woman.

(01:05:09):
They can't relate.
Yeah, they feel like they can'trelate.
You know what I mean?
And again, when you centermovies around other people that
aren't white men, Again, a lotof the white audience feels
like, well, I can't relate, soI'm not going to watch.
And I feel like, again, asartists, as people who make
these things, bro, you reallyhave to sit with yourself and

(01:05:33):
say, do I want to be able tosell to everybody and have my
art diluted?
Or do I want to make authenticart that tells a real story?
And you know what?
Some folks might not like it.
You know what I mean?
That's how I gotta be sometimes.
And I think that's really whatit is, too, is we need to...
I'm sick and tired of Hollywoodtrying to make art and movies

(01:05:53):
and entertainment.
That's only palatable for whitepeople.
They do it on purpose, bro.
And it sucks.
They do do it on purpose.
And that's why all the shitthat's out now fucking blows,
bro.
Yeah, because it's allpropaganda.
It fucking blows.
They're trying to get a messageacross, which is not bad.
Obviously, it's not the new.
It's always been like a thing inmovies.
But when you pander, it's like,oh, Lord.
It fucking blows, bro.

(01:06:14):
It's like, here we go again.
Why couldn't you just give usoriginal character?
But I was happy people wouldfuck with sinners, though,
because...
Sinners didn't pander.
Again, they had to behistorically accurate, bro.
Yeah, and that's why I washappy.
That's why I was kind ofsurprised from the reception it
got.
But I was happy seeing people onthe line on the internet accept
it.
Like, nah, man.
KKK was the enemy, bro.
It was real.

(01:06:34):
And think about that, bro.
I feel like Sinners 2, it waseasier...
Or not even, I'll reframe itlike this.
Sinners was able to work toobecause they didn't necessarily,
they didn't take the easy routelike we talked about in the
movie.
They could have just made thewhite folks or the clan.
The vampires.
The vampires.
Would have been super easy.

(01:06:55):
You know, and it could havebeen, then it could have been
very racially divisive.
You wouldn't have cared if theydied.
You feel me?
Yeah.
And like I said, bro, that tookthought, bro.
You know what I mean?
And again, when I see this shitcome from like these other
studios where I could tellthey're not putting any thought
or creativity into it.
Again, I'll never, bro.
I'm...

(01:07:15):
always, or not always, but I'mgoing to be a hater of Marvel
for a long time, bro, becauseI'm not going to be able to get
over Black Panther 2, bro.
That's the biggest propagandaI've ever seen in my life, bro.
Bro, I'm never going to be ableto forgive him for that, bro.
I don't care.
I don't care.
So why does the story have to beBlack vs.
Brown?
Because Chadwick died.

(01:07:36):
And that's the problem, though.
This is the one time, too,where, again, nobody asked for
the...
What are they, the Namekians?
No, they're not Namekians.
The motherfuckers from Atlantisand shit, bro.
Nobody asked to make themMexicans, bro.
And that was the one time whereit's like, bro, again, they

(01:07:56):
should have stayed white.
They should have stayed white.
And all it did, bro, makingsomebody a different color when
the role was specificallydesigned for a white person,
bro, it just takes away valuefrom the film.
And again, it takes away anytype of message that you're
really trying to say.
Well, no, I think the messagewas trying to be like, they're
not really the villain because,you know, he was confused

(01:08:19):
because technically the Frenchcame on his lane.
But then he thought it was theWakandans, remember?
So he responded.
And I think when people dochange the color of that, I
think they try to make yousympathize with the villain.
I think that's what they're...
It's propaganda, bro.
Yeah, it is propaganda, but Ithink it's what they do.
I think they're on purpose tomake you...
Yeah, it's cool.
It is cool, obviously.
I want everyone to have theirheroes and be represented, but

(01:08:41):
bro, go watch Blue Beetle.
Go watch an authentic...
That's how I feel about blacksuperheroes, but I don't want
you guys to change the color ofsomeone.
Just give me an authenticperson.
Not a dead ass, man.
Don't just change the color forthe story.
I mean, you can do it, but it'snot always going to work.

SPEAKER_00 (01:08:55):
If

SPEAKER_02 (01:08:57):
you're just changing his color and not changing the
content of his character, thenagain, you're pandering, bruh.
That's what makes it weird.
Don't give me black Superman.
I want black Superman.
Fuck no.
Don't give me black Batman.
Don't do none of that.
Don't give me that unless you'rereally trying to get serious
about it, bruh.

(01:09:17):
Damn, a black Batman from thehood would go crazy.
Don't give me no fucking blackBatman.
Batman from the hood would gocrazy because he really wouldn't
fuck with cops.
That's what I'm saying.
Don't give me the fucking blackBatman, bro.
So him working with Jeff Gordonwould really go against his
morals.
No, honestly, it is.
No, honestly.
Batman's the op, bro.
We can make a good movie,low-key.
Batman's really the op.

(01:09:38):
No, Batman is the op.
It's like Vince Staples said, heonly fights dope fiends.
It's a classic clip.
Nigga really get his neck broketrying to get an eighth.
Nigga's trying to hit a littlespeedball.
Here comes Batman.
I can't imagine bro youstressing trying to pay your
bills you just trying to do alittle drug son wine bro and

(01:09:59):
kind of just take the edge offBatman whooping your ass bro nah
so I saw like Ben Stimples hewas like penguin dope fiend he
was like he was like Riddlerdope fiend he's like bro Joker
was literally in a psych ward Iwas like, yeah, Batman.
Nigga was a 5150.
Yeah, I'm like, bro, Batman befighting niggas who got autism
and stuff.
Batman's kind of crazy when Ithink about it.

(01:10:21):
It's the ops, bro.
That's exactly what the policedo, bro.
Batman got PTSD, too.
Might not.
Batman do got problems.
Are we going to get serious now?
Are we done with the fun?
We can get a little serious.
We got no more fun left.
Yeah.
I don't think we have anythingfun left.
I mean...
Well, quick, quick, quick fun.

(01:10:41):
I think Khalil Rountree's on aknockoff to Mills Hill ahead
this week, UFC fight night.
Yeah.
Wakhan Buckley lost.
I was kind of sad about that.
Joaquin Buckley lost.
Usman looked good.
Some quick hits.
What do you got quick hits forsports real quick?
I expected that to happen.
I wasn't surprised when ithappened, bro.

(01:11:02):
You want old school Usman.
Yeah, because I honestly...
I knew Usman had the groundgame.
I thought Buckley would havebeen more prepared for the
ground game with the way he wastalking.
I wasn't shocked that Usman, youknow, went for the takedowns.
Yeah.
That's the type of fighter he'salways been.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
I thought Buckley's ground gamewould have looked a little more
polished, though, bro.
I mean, he finally adjusted, butonce Usman coasted, it didn't

(01:11:25):
matter.
But I definitely, I feel likeit's a learning experience for
Buckley.
I definitely don't.
I feel like he's...
He's still up there for me.
Yeah.
You know, he's definitely aserious contender.
Yeah, bro.
He could just...
i feel like that's the lastelement of his game yeah that
needs to work that he needs towork on yeah and he could be a
champ bro i think bro i thinkwe'll see we'll see buckley in
next year and some good fightsagain yeah because honestly he

(01:11:47):
had he had uzman scared brobroke up there's a few times
when i saw uzman get touchedwrestle and i was like okay so
he has the power was feelingthose shots yeah he has the
power to definitely likedevastate anybody but it's about
touching them like you said sobecause you know what uzman does
too i know often i talk aboutlike because i know muay thai
and i'm like you know what i Iwant to learn just enough

(01:12:07):
jujitsu to know how to get up,right?
Usman has just enough stand-upto not get knocked out.
Exactly.
But his wrestling is cold asfuck.
Exactly.
You know what I mean?
So it's like the inverse, bro.
It kind of gets kind of like,you kind of got to catch him.
Yeah.
So yeah, he is practicallypretty good.
Yeah.
So Usman, man, I...
I can see him contending for thebelt again, bro.
Y'all looking to train Muay Thaisoon.

(01:12:27):
Y'all got to hit Newman too,bro.
Yeah,

SPEAKER_00 (01:12:29):
bro.
Hey, come get

SPEAKER_02 (01:12:30):
with

SPEAKER_00 (01:12:30):
me,

SPEAKER_02 (01:12:31):
bro.
I'll get you right.
You're going to get me right,bro.
I know I'm a chubby dad rightnow.
You're going to get me right,bro.
No more dad, bro.
I carry a light heavyweight.
Yeah, bro.
No more dad, bro.
No more heavyweight, bro.
We're going to lightheavyweight, bro.
We're going down.
We're going down.
Yeah, baby.
We're coming down.
215.
We're going down.

(01:12:51):
Yeah.
Quick hits.
NBA.
It looks like Holly's injured.
Quad injury.
I know everyone's scared.
Don't come back.
Might be like KD.
Might fucking tear his Achilles.
Thunder's up 3-2.
You think you should just callit over?
Let Thunder win the chip?
Nah, it's a closeout game, bro.
Yeah, come and play it?
Leave it all on the line, bro.
Fuck it?
Yeah, fuck it.
Fuck it.
Leave it all on the line, bro.
Closeout game.
Um...

(01:13:11):
I mean, I felt like we talked, Iliterally called it out on the
last pod, bro, of like, nigga,everybody's one injury away.
And you called it on how itplayed, too.
It's funny how the pod ended,the Pacers won that night.
And then the next game, Thunder,you kind of called it how it was
going to play out.
It's kind of funny.
So it's just, like I said, bro,everybody's always one injury
away from, you know, being thechamps.
You know what I mean?
Like, bro, Pacers put up a goodfight, but if Halle can't come

(01:13:33):
back, you know, they're donezo.
Yeah, by the time you guyslisten to this, Thunder's
probably champion realistically.
They're donezo.
Yeah, so that's kind of half thesports.
It's cool, man.
Honestly, bro, I'm excited forbasketball to be over.
Some big moves being madealready in the NBA, bro.
I saw Desmond Bain got traded,man.
I saw Giannis talking aboutleaving.
KD's talking about leaving.

(01:13:55):
KD was really who I wanted totap in on.
Where do you think he's going togo?
I don't know, bro.
And the thing is, bro, I feellike wherever he does go, bro, I
can't see KD adding...
I can't see him making themcontenders, bro.
Damn, so you feel about KD now?
To me, KD doesn't contribute towinning basketball.

(01:14:15):
He can, though.
He could contribute to scoring.
I think he could score the rock.
Winning basketball?
Yeah, he hoped.
I think without the Warriors,KD, they don't get those two
rings without KD.
I think LeBron whoops their ass.
Again, I think the Warriorsstill are winning rings without
KD, though.
I think the Warriors might havethree.
Because think about it, they gottwo without KD.

(01:14:37):
One.
They got two without him.
Oh, yeah, you're right.
The one later.
That's what I'm saying.
They got two without him.
I think they could have snuck ina third.
Nah, nah, I can't lie.
If they would have never gothim.
Because in my mind, LeBron goesand wins three in a row.
Nah, because honestly, when Isee the Warriors, bro, they make
good front office moves, bro.
Nah, they're a good team.
I just think that Cavs team wasbuilt to match the Warriors.

(01:14:58):
I don't think so.
Because like I said, too, evenwith the Cavs team, bro,
everybody's always one injuryaway.
Cavs team could have been LeBroncould have been peak of his
powers.
Niggas could have been, youknow, could have been another
K-Love shoulder injury.
Kyrie ankle injury.
Again, like I said, everybody'salways one injury away from
LeBron having to put up somehistoric numbers again.
That was a good team, though,bro.

(01:15:19):
That was a good team.
No, it's true, though.
Yeah, that's fair.
I'm saying, like, I don'tthink...
Did KD contribute a lot tomaking it easier for the
Warriors to win?
Fuck yeah.
I think the Warriors still couldhave won without KD, bro.
They showed me twice alreadythat they could do it without
KD.
First it was Harrison Barnes.
Yeah, with Harrison Barnes,nigga.
With Harrison Barnes and Iggy,bro.

(01:15:40):
Yeah, what?
Come on, bro.
What's my boy, David Lee still?
Come on, bro.
Did they have Zaza?
Yeah, yeah, Zaza.
Come on, bro.
Come on, bro.
I don't believe that they neededKD.
And I feel the same way.
Wherever KD goes, bro, it's notgoing to contribute to winning
basketball.
Bro, again, he could scorepoints.
KD is not willing to do what aleader needs to do.

(01:16:02):
KD is not willing to take abackseat to a younger star.
What if he does, though?
I'm going to agree with you.
I think if KD's the number oneoption, it's not going to work.
It's not going to work.
I think if KD's the second,third option on the team, he's
on floors.
I don't think so.
Because I think technically inthe Warriors, I mean, yeah, he
was number one option looking inthe Warriors.
And he shouldn't have.
And he shouldn't have.

(01:16:23):
It's Steph Curry's team, bro.
He technically was number oneoption in the Warriors.
That's what I'm saying.
I can't lie.
Like, again, you could score therock.
It doesn't equal to winningbasketball.
It's the same thing with JamesHarden, bro.
Well, I guess the whole pointwith guys like him, you got to
get people who got theintangibles to kind of like
boost the team.
And think about that.
How many times have we seen anigga win a championship based
off of that type of build?
Where you got one dude, elitelevel scorer, and then everybody

(01:16:45):
else just falls in line.
Hardly ever.
Hardly ever.
All teams that we see arecomplete fucking teams, bro.
They got depth.
Exactly.
But everybody who we see win it,they got depth and they got
niggas who know their role browho are willing to just go and
play their fucking role dudebecause even that miami team
d-way had to play a role youknow what i mean that's really

(01:17:06):
what helped them yeah they'reand his role again it was easier
for him to fall into the rolebecause again you're the young
man shacks the veteran you knowthree rings obviously shacks
there's a different element tothat but again d-way was able to
use that to prove again lebronyeah that's why i do d-way i
know people don't like i knowwe're We're kind of getting a
little deeper into sports thanwe want to right now.

(01:17:27):
But that's why I reallyappreciate D-Way.
And that's why I hate when wesee the James Harden.
Because D-Way...
Bro, when Shaq went to thatteam, D-Wade knew he had to step
it up a little bit and be, like,the number one.
Then when LeBron came, D-Wadeknew he had to step it back a
little bit.
Like, all right, I know it's myteam, Brian, but I know that
you, number one, will win thering.
Yeah, LeBron James was the bestplayer in the world at that
time.
Talk about prime.
Prime LeBron James jumping outthe gym.

(01:17:48):
Yeah.
I think it was jumping out thegym, bro.
D-Wade's one of those dudes thatalways knew his role and never
got fully appreciated.
Yeah.
I do feel bad.
I give him the respect.
That's the third best shootingguard of all time.
Yeah, easy, bro.
Put some respect on it, bro.
He's easy three.
bro better than James Hardenhe's cooking James Harden bro
unless James Harden wins likethree rings out of nowhere yeah
he's not winning no hard yeahMVP's cool but again what the

(01:18:10):
fuck does an MVP mean to me brolike again Russ got an MVP means
you had a good season yeah andagain I've seen Russ got an MVP
and I see all types of slanderfor Russ bro and I know Russ is
way better Russ has contributedway more to winning basketball
than James Harden oh yeah yeahhell yeah everybody Russ has
played with bro niggas talkingabout MVP it's always the best
year when he's there Every year,as long as it's the best year.

(01:18:31):
I mean, besides Brian, becausepeople, they know how to use
him.
That's what I'm saying.
Everyone has Russ shoot threeswhen he's playing with Brian.
Stand in the corner.
And no, I feel even like, all Ihate more is that like, what
they should do, Russ is doingwith Luka now.
Like, let Russ bring up theball.
Let him be point guard, nigga.
Right.
But they didn't trust it.
All right, we had enough fun,dude.

(01:18:52):
Let's get into it, bro.
No, honestly, I want to keep iton sports a little bit, bro, but
we're going to keep itpolitical.
What are we going to do?
How are we going to transition?
I'm going to talk about LosDoyers.
Oh, yeah.
I wish I would run from thesmoke.
That's all right.
Nah, I don't want to do this formy team, bro.
You don't want to do it?
No, we're going to do it.
We're definitely going to do it.

(01:19:13):
I got the A hat on today, baby.
I like the Dodgers, but man.
I like all California teams.
After being in Texas, bro, forso long, nigga, I'm always going
to root for everybody inCalifornia.
But what happened with theDodgers, baby?
Controversy right now, bro.
You know it's been hot right nowwith ice going around, bro.
It's a very sensitive climateright now, bro.

(01:19:34):
I guess they had...
Singer of like a Mexicanheritage come up to do the
national anthem at the Dodgersgame, bro I don't know if she
wanted to do it in Spanish Yeah,like or like the Mexican
national anthem or somethingthey wasn't having it though
wasn't having it bro She did itanyways Latinos is hot right now

(01:19:56):
though.
They don't feel supported by theDodgers my nigga.
That's that's number one fanbase yeah, you know and I feel
like How you feel, bro?
I feel like it ties into whatwe've been saying, that this is
the type of, like, this ispandering.
What the Dodgers have been doingthis whole time is pandering.
The Los Doyers, all right?
And now to really try to notdouble down on the Latino

(01:20:20):
heritage after...
And support your team.
Yeah, you know, again, you madea lot of money off of that.
You know what I mean?
And think about this.
Again, these sports teams make alot of money off of, like...
What it is, it's pandering.
Again, think about, you know,where we get specialty jerseys
from now during like, you know,Black Pride.
Yeah, or I even think, bro, evenwith the NBA where they do the

(01:20:41):
Latin heritage where they havelike the Lost Heat type or El
Heat, you know, and they got allthat, bro.
Different colors.
Again, yes, they arecapitalizing off a culture right
now.
Yeah, baseball does it too.
Yeah, and that's what it is.
Bro, they're profiting off ourculture, which is not a problem,
but what are you giving back?
what are you doing in return,bro?
And this is Sean firsthand.
And that's, and that's what I'msaying, bro.

(01:21:02):
So we have to be very carefulwith, I want to use like the
Hispanic community as an exampleright now.
Why, you know, Black people, wecannot be content with taking
symbols from people.
You know what I mean?
Because that's what the Dodgershave given them this whole time.
It's strictly symbols.
It's strictly symbolic.
You know what I mean?
In language, they're like, yeah,you know, we're pro this and

(01:21:25):
that.
But in practice, now we'reseeing, we know, we know.
And it goes back to what the NBAdid or what the NFL did where
they try to seem like, no, we'repro BLM, but they're trying to
tell you how to be pro, how tobe pro black people.
Remember when jimmy butler hedidn't want to put anything on
his jersey to make a statementthey said no that's not how you
have to exactly you're notprotesting the way we've defined

(01:21:50):
or the within the parametersthat we set on what we say is
palatable for our white audienceyou know what i mean for you to
protest yeah you know what imean and that's that's what it's
going towards bro because againif you can't do it protests
aren't supposed to make peoplecomfortable exactly bro i
thought we we forget about yeahand like People, protests are
supposed to fuck up your day.

(01:22:10):
Yeah.
They're supposed toinconvenience you.
Yeah, exactly.
Exactly.
And the thing is, again, thepropaganda is so good now to
where when you think aboutprotests, we get mad at the
people who are inconveniencingus.
Right.
Okay?
But the thing is, they're not.
When we reimagine these things,bro, and we shift our views,
bro, we need to be mad at, youknow, these corporations.

(01:22:32):
Yep.
These organizations, bro.
Big pharma.
Yeah, again, because again,they're more...
The Dodgers have been more thanhappy historically, bro, to take
the money of Mexican-Americans.
They have, again, they have beenmore than welcoming historically
to have Cholos and black folksas the front.

(01:22:57):
That's their fans.
That's who they cater to, bro.
Think about how much money theDodgers have made off of
Crippen.

UNKNOWN (01:23:06):
That's...

SPEAKER_02 (01:23:08):
Think about that, bro.
Think about like...
Think about that, you know?
And I don't even want y'all toget it confused, too.
Like, I'm associating blackculture with gangs and stuff
like that.
You know what I mean?
But again, that's just oneaspect of, again, think about...
Bro, hip-hop.
Yeah, exactly.
Fucking exactly, bro.

(01:23:29):
I know where you're going withthis.
Hip-hop, bro.
Exactly, nigga.
How many times have you seen theL.A.
Dodger hat in the music video?
Deadass.
Yeah?
Deadass, bro.
Again, they like our support aslong as we just purchase their
shit and shut the fuck up.
How does that make them anydifferent than what we talked
about on the last podcast?
from a brand like Gucci, mynigga.
It's not at this point.
Yeah.
And that's what's fucked up,bro, like you said.

(01:23:50):
Bro, I fuck with the LA teams,bro.
Yeah.
Really, I fuck with Shohei alot.
So it's like Shohei going to theDodgers.
I'm tapping in.
And it sucks, like you said, tosee these big corporations, bro,
these big teams where for mostof the fans it's Hispanic, bro,
and black.
Like most Dodgers fans I knoware Hispanic and black.
Yeah.
And it's like we always repping.
We all got gear.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
Some of my fans are Hispanic, sosome of their parents might be

(01:24:14):
immigrants, grandma might beimmigrant, someone in their
family might be an immigrant.
So to see the Dodgers shut thenational anthem down and not say
anything about the ICE protestsor about the ICE deportation
going on too, it is kind ofsick.
Like, damn, bro, not theDodgers.
Y'all supposed to be thehometown heroes.
You know, because when I reallythink about it too, bro, I don't
think...

SPEAKER_05 (01:24:35):
Nah,

SPEAKER_02 (01:24:38):
deadass, bro.
And it kills me because it'slike, bro, the Dodgers, bro, it
is that team to where, nigga,you're wearing the Dodgers shit
just for swag, bro.
And that's primarily black andbrown people.
I don't think I've ever seen awhite guy throw on a Dodgers hat
and have done it and he's notbeen a fan of the Dodgers.
Every time I've seen a white guywith a Dodgers hat on, he's a

(01:24:58):
fan of baseball.
He's a fan of baseball.
Every time I see a nigga with aDodgers hat on, He think that
shit look hard, bro.
Right.
Nigga.
I went Mardi Gras in Mobile,Alabama, I think 2020, dog.
Right.
Bro, you know how many L.A.
Dodgers hats I saw?
I'm like, these niggas weren'tfans.
They didn't like the L.A., theyliked the blue.

(01:25:20):
And I was like, oh, people inAlabama know, like, they really
fuck with the hat just becauseof the logo.
And I'm like, oh, people don'twatch fucking...
And that's what it is, bro.
Because, again, I know everybodylikes to say keep politics out
of it.
It's inherently political.
It's always political, bro.
You know what I mean?
Again, the teams that are mostpopular, it's political.
There's a reason why the Dodgerspop, nigga.
Because black people make itcool.

(01:25:41):
Because Mexican people make itcool.
Come on, bro.
You know what I mean?
It's a reason why, bro.
It's a reason why we was madwhen Jerry Jones came out with
that video.
Because, bro, most Dallas Cowboyfans are Hispanic and black,
bro.
You know what I mean?
So when you see the owner...
kind of come on some racistshit.
It's like, damn, bro, I'mHispanic.
I'm black.
I'm from a different descent,you know?
So it was like, it's kind ofcrazy when you see some of these

(01:26:03):
people and some of these owners,I was like, how can you support
these people?
How can I still be a Clipperfan?
Y'all don't fire the owner.
That's what I'm saying, bro.
It feels like we're getting to apoint too now where even if you
want to keep the politics out ofit, bro, out of sports, we
can't.
It's hard.
Yeah, it's really hard, bro.
So now we have to be honestwith...
Okay, if politics are in sports,bro, whose politics are we

(01:26:26):
allowing to be represented then?
You know what I mean?
And by, again, when you silencethe voices of Mexican-Americans,
bro, and other Latinos, bro,again, you're saying whose
politics that you value andwhose politics are worth, you
know, being, you know?
That's true.

(01:26:46):
It is political, you know?
And it goes back to...
Not saying anything or nottaking a stance is taking a
stance.
You know what I mean?
That's what it is.
It's literally just the same.
Yeah, it's the same thing.
And it sucks because we knowthese teams are owned by people
of color most of the time.
It's like 90% some white dudewho probably don't even watch
the fucking sport.

(01:27:07):
But I think even deeper too,bro.
When I think about...
It just kills me too, bro.
Because again, I just...
don't understand how anorganization like the dodgers
can't fucking read the roomright now it's easy that's what

(01:27:27):
kills me even more too with theclimate that's going on right
now bro you can't read thefucking room because they're
just playing games like nothinghappened yeah because i think
they still haven't said anythingabout like the national anthem
thing yet Cause again, they'rewaiting to see, to see how,
yeah, yeah.
To see if there is going to besome, how big it's going to be.
Yeah.
Like, you know, and again,that's what it does though.

(01:27:49):
If it's not big enough, it'salmost like the Dodgers are
going to keep on doing it orit's, it's letting these
organizations know that, Hey,you can get away with that.
Yeah.
That you don't, that, that youcan.
not say anything during thesetimes.
You know what I mean?
It's okay.
Yeah, it's cool.
Like, yeah, that's what's kindof fucked up.
It's like, they're picky andchoo-choo, like you said,

(01:28:12):
because I bet when it's fuckingL-Lost Dodgers night, whatever
the fuck, they're going to havethose, you know, special
heritage food night, all thatshit they do.
You know?
And it's like, they do it for...
Japan, too.
They have some special dish fromJapan.
So it's interesting to see, likeyou said, you want the support
from the people, but you don'twant to support the people.

(01:28:33):
Because you know what it feelslike, bro?
It almost feels like when whitepeople go and they take from
black culture and we use theexpression, they want our rhythm
and not our blues.
It's the same thing, bro.
It's the same thing withMexicans, bro.
And then the Latino community,bro.
They want everything that comeswith it.
and not the blues, bro, becausenow I even want to go in
transition, too.

(01:28:54):
Have you been seeing the NoKings protests that happened
over the weekend, bro?
Yeah, yeah, I saw that over theweekend, bro.
Fuck Donald Trump.
Yeah, I want to tap into it,though, again, to even when
people— I'm not even going tosay, like, everybody there, you
know, didn't have the rightintentions, but people go in
there not with the rightintentions, bro.

(01:29:14):
Yeah, hell yeah, people do that,

SPEAKER_03 (01:29:15):
yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (01:29:15):
Again, it really felt like the people who went to
the No Kings protest, they onlyhalfway supported Latinos.
You know what I mean?
I seen a lot of signs.
I saw a lot of white people outthere.
Yeah.
And I felt like the signs that Iseen of people making were very

(01:29:35):
performative.
You know what I mean?
Like I seen it was like shitlike, oh, you know, don't deport
the Latina baddies.
You know what I mean?
It was a lot of joking shit.
And that type of shit is notfucking funny.
The only ice I like is somestupid like, you know, whatever.
That type of shit is not fuckingfunny, bro.
Because when I really thinkabout that, all that message is

(01:29:58):
saying when you're like, oh,save the Latina baddies, bro.
implies that only the people whofit within a certain standard
are worth help or are worth, youknow, due process.
You know what I mean?
It shouldn't, again, thereshould be zero stipulations when
you're making these sites, whenyou're making these sites to

(01:30:21):
support Latinos.
You know what I mean?
It shouldn't be only supportthese types of Latin.
That's what it's saying.
No, that's true though.
Like that's what they're saying.
And then like, and to them, it'slike, he, he, yeah.
And it's like, nah, people arereally good.
Yeah.
Because again, Again, too, it'sonly saying, yeah, we're only
going to support the people whofit into the certain ideal of
what we think Latino is.

(01:30:42):
Because again, too, when, again,we talked about on the last pod,
when we say Latino, what doesaverage person think about?
Yeah, I think about probablyMexican person.
You know what I mean?
So again, when you're saying,you know, Latina baddies,
there's a very specific imagethat's coming into people's
minds.
They're thinking about a SelmaHayek, bro.
They're thinking about, again,there's a very specific image.

(01:31:03):
And those women are notrepresentative of, you know, an
entire community.
It's not the reality.
It's not the reality.
And again, once you startputting stipulations on things
and claiming, you know, we'regoing to specifically try to
focus on a certain subgroupwithin the Latino community,
it's harmful.

UNKNOWN (01:31:21):
Right.

SPEAKER_02 (01:31:21):
It's harmful, bruh.
And again, you take away fromthe real work that needs to be
done, which is protests aresupposed to be disruptive.
It's not supposed to be fun,bro.
Yeah, and I'd seen videos ofpeople at the protests talking
about, you know, we're...
you know, we're here to bepeaceful, you know, we don't
want to, we don't want to causeany trouble or inconvenience,

(01:31:44):
then what the fuck are you atthe protest for?
You're like, we're not tellingyou to go break into the stores
and do that hooligan shit.
Yeah, but again, you're supposedto be a little disruptive.
You're supposed to fuck uptraffic, bro.
Yeah.
You're supposed to get, youknow, you're supposed to,
like...
Property damage, I'm going tosay it like this, I don't got a
problem with property damage.
Nah, no property damage.
I want to see, no, I want to seea little bit of, I don't care, I
don't care if Bank of Americagets fucking...

(01:32:06):
Oh, Bank of America, but...
I don't care if some of thesebusinesses, I don't care if
Target gets set on fire.
Target's cool.
I don't care.
If someone ruined my business,it's like my house.
I'll kill it.
But again, that's thepropaganda.
They want us to think that it'sa lot of mom and pop shops.
But it's happening, though.
There's some.
I saw it in my own eyes.
There's some.

(01:32:26):
Niggas hit a mom-pop jewelrystore.
Those niggas was crying onChannel 7.
There's some.
Okay, but again, to me, to me,the onesies and twosies of the
mom and pop shops, bro, is notgoing to deter me from, again,
going and messing up the pocketsof big business, bro, works,

(01:32:46):
bro.
That shit has power.
Going and making peopleuncomfortable who have to go and
work for these systems haspower.
So to sit here and be like,we're going to protest, but we
don't really want to shakeanything up.
Bro, you're just having a partythen.
You're just having a party inthe name of Latinos.
That's what I'm saying.
And that's what it seemed likewhen I was watching a lot of
these videos, motherfuckers isdancing, you know, chop it up,

(01:33:08):
talking about, save the Latinas,you know, and it's not serious,
bro.
They partying, bro.
They party.
And they said, we're going tosay it a lot too, but niggas not
talking about ice though.
They forgot the whole purpose ofit.
They weren't talking about ICE.
That's the whole point.
That's what I'm saying.
That's the whole point.
That there's niggas out heretrying to tread on our rights,
bro.
That's the whole point.
And these niggas are still lostin the sauce.
Yeah, and we need to talk aboutthat.

(01:33:29):
But like I said, ICE is able todo this because the police are
supporting them.
The police are enabling them todo this.
But again, niggas at the protestwere talking about, you know, we
don't want to, you know, have tocause any inconvenience to the
police, nigga.
They're one in the same.
ICE and the police are on thesame team.
I don't know how.
What do you say?
Them niggas is on the same team.
They all work for thegovernment.
They on the same team, bruh.

(01:33:51):
Niggas get confused.
Like, oh, I saw some of theTrump supporters.
I didn't think they were goingto do this.
Like, nigga, it's thegovernment, nigga.
They on the same team.
I'm like, they all work for thegovernment, dog.
It's killing me, bruh.
It's killing me, man.
Nah, I don't want y'all niggasto go...
Nah, don't get shot by one ofthose Korean niggas.
Don't y'all break into thoseniggas' shops.

(01:34:12):
I didn't say nothing like that.
Nah, I'm just saying, I don'twant to be 1992 over again,
alright?
Nah, nah, nah.
But Target, the big business,for sure, for sure.
Do y'all think it's a bigbusiness?
I just don't want the LA riotsover again.
I don't want niggas to get shot.
Niggas is already getting shot,bro.
You peep the news lady who gotshot with a rubber bullet, bro?
You see the...

(01:34:33):
On camera.
And, bro, again, I'm going tokeep on saying.
Am I true?
Again, nigga, if they're goingto shoot a white lady on camera,
bro, what are they going to doto us off camera, nigga?
They're going to kill it, nigga,bro.
Come on, bro.
And it's time niggas have tostart speaking out against that,
bro.
It's not enough just to, youknow, hold signs about save the
Latina baddies.
Save them from who?

SPEAKER_05 (01:34:53):
Who

SPEAKER_02 (01:34:53):
are we saving them from?
Let's start calling out theenemy.
Let's start pointing out who ourenemies are instead of having
this omnipresent nigga to whereit's like, we're fighting the
power, nigga.
Who's the power?
I'll tell you who the power is.
You know what I mean?
I know who the power is.
Some of those ICE agents.
Yeah, that's the power.
Some of those governmentofficials.

(01:35:14):
Yeah, those are the niggas y'allneed to be fighting, bro.
But instead, we like to make itseem like it's something like,
mystical...
Yeah, like it's George Santos orsomething, you know?
Some random billionaire.
No, nigga.
This is systemic work at play,bro.
And it's like, don't get mewrong.
I know these billionairesinfluence our life.
Don't get me wrong.
I know the go-to niggas go to isthe Rothschilds.

(01:35:35):
And don't get me wrong.
I know those niggas got billionsof dollars.
And I know they influence.
But don't think the niggasnatching nigga people's up
right now.
You know what I mean?
Those are everyday people who,after they snatch up people,
they go home to their family.
You know what I mean?
And it's like...
I know Newman's in the Army.
And Newman always says...
Some of those people are justdoing orders, you know what I
mean?
And that's what they think intheir head.
Like, I'm just taking orders,you know?
Because how many ISIS actuallyprobably quit, you know what I

(01:35:56):
mean?
And say, niggas against theConstitution.
It's against my rights, you knowwhat I mean?
I don't want to take a littlegirl home from her home.
But no, they all probably wentto work that day, you know what
I mean?
That's a job or whatever, bro.
They don't want to fuck up thecheck.
Yeah, you know what I mean?
Whatever, I guess.
I don't know if I respect it,but I get it.
And then, no, because I feellike it's time we start having
an honest talk about this, too.
Like, not only is, like, ICE...

(01:36:19):
and the police a job, but it's acushy job if we're being for
reals.
It's not as hard of a job aspeople want to make it seem.
These niggas is paid nice.
There's a reason why they'reable to get motherfuckers to go
and do that shit.
They're getting paid nice.
They're not underpaid like a lotof other Americans, bro.

(01:36:41):
Like I said, we know some peoplewho are on the police.
It's cool.
They living good.
They're living good.
It's not like the nigga who's inIraq.
And that's why I feel bad, bro.
Because it's like, bro, we gotniggas in Iraq.
He's like, bro, we got people.
And like I said, I know it's twodifferent jobs.

(01:37:04):
But, bro, people go to war, dog.
And they give niggas like 40grand.
And be like, yo, thanks forgoing to war.
And it's like, yo.
Don't get me wrong, bro.
Some cop jobs, you are in thefire a lot, but that's very few.
Very few.
Like SWAT, like Special Force.
What cops are in the fire?
You know what I mean?
You're at the desk.
You know what I mean?
You're doing paperwork.

(01:37:25):
And it's like, yeah, don't getme wrong.
You have those stops where youmight run into the dude who
might have a gun, who might killyou.
It happens.
Like I said, everything happens.
Like I said, you might run intothe cop who might shoot you for
having a cell phone.
Everything happens.
You know what I mean?
But it's like, these niggas wentto war, dog.
And you give them 40 grand.

SPEAKER_05 (01:37:40):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (01:37:41):
And it's like, some nigga's might never shoot their
gun some niggas might never getinto altercation they work at
the desk bro they work at thedesk so it's not been their job
to ever get into altercation andagain six figures and it's not i
gotta say bro it's not that it'sjust like bro we're so picky and
choosy of like what's americanwho's american who deserves

(01:38:04):
money and that's where it's likewhat how about we get the nigga
who went to the army 100 grandyeah how about that But I was
like, nah, that's a dumb job.
I was like, well, how come beinga dentist is not a dumb job?
Niggas can do nothing all day.
Right.
Do some paperwork.
My 16-year-old fucking needs todo paperwork.
Give her some cookies and money.
Like, kids, bro, kids, you knowwhat I mean?

(01:38:24):
So I do hate that we like toframe us like, yeah, bro, being
a cop, it could be dangeroussometimes.
Like I said, it's not...
It's not that dangerous, bro.
Sometimes it can be, but I'msaying most niggas never shoot
their guns.
Most niggas never...
Again, they use the propaganda.
That's what the purpose of likethese like first 48 shows do.
Again, they focus on it and makeit seem like all these cops are

(01:38:48):
working.
Like every cop works in Chicagoor LA or Detroit.
Majority cops don't work in themplaces, bro.
You know how many small townsexist?
That's what I'm saying.
You know every person in thetown.
Like, yeah, I'm like...
Majority of the police don'twork in them places.
It's not Metro LA, dog, whereit's 5 billion people and you
got cocaine coming in.
Like, no, not all cops work likethat.

(01:39:08):
Yeah, bro.
Don't get me wrong.
Even where we live, like OrangeCounty, like, bro, it's not...
Yeah, you get every now and thenthere's some crime and I get it
twisted, but it's not.
But I like to think about itlike this, bro.
When I see these protests, bro,when I see these protests and I
see these cops out here with theriot shields and all that shit,
bro, I think about it like this.
That's the time when they'reusing the equipment.

(01:39:29):
They only use those types ofmilitarized equipment on
America, bro.
They're not using it to fightcrime.
Hang on, bro.
On another note, did you see, Idon't know if you saw that dude
at the protest.
Do you see him going to all thecops?
What dude?
There was some dude, he waslike, Officer Sanchez, Officer
Lopez.
You saw that?
I was like, no.

(01:39:51):
I was like, bro, not your ownfolks.
And that's what hurts, bro.
Shit, like, that hurts, man.
Bro, we'll keep it on the policeright now, though, too.
bro dude who was in minnesota ohmy lord the fucking hitman
smoking dudes posing as thepolice what do you what do you
kill a minnesota yeah he killeda uh a senator a senator so he

(01:40:14):
killed senator john hoffman andthen two representative uh
melissa hortman and theirpartners right oh my lord bro
shot him up jesus shot him upbro it's It's feeling real 1970s
out here.
We getting crazy with thepolitical violence right now,
bro.
I can't lie, though.
For somebody who didn't see,this motherfucker is out the
door like an old man bald mask.

(01:40:36):
I don't know what you evendescribe the mask as.
In a cop uniform, and he rangthe doorbell, and they answered
it.
I think that's the one situationwhere you're supposed to dump
the mag through the door.
Bro, nah, because what the fuck,bro?
That nigga looks scary.
Yeah.
Bro, he looks scary as shit.
If I saw a nigga wearing thatoutside my house...
I'm so scared.
But we're black.

(01:40:56):
Yeah, I guess you're right.
We're black.
Again, their white instinctskicked in where they said, oh,
the police.
I wonder what could be going on.
But they didn't think like, whyis he wearing a mask?
That wasn't a thought in theirhead at all.
Like, why is a cop wearing amask?
No, they seen the white skin andthought, okay, it's safety.
Wow.
How you doing tonight, officer?
Boy.
Our nigga instinct is, bro, I'mnot opening up this door.

(01:41:18):
Number one, I'm already notopening for a cop.
It's nighttime, too?
Bro, and he got a mask on?
So that's three doozies rightthere, bro.
I'm just going to assume thatthey thought the mask was his
actual face.
Yeah, exactly.
I'm not even going to, like...
It was groggy.
They just woke up.
I'm going to assume, yeah, I'mgoing to like to assume that.
But honestly, bro, we're in a,like you said, we're in a

(01:41:39):
climate where it's like, I don'tknow, this is bringing you that,
like, I don't know.
How do you feel about this?
I know.
I feel like people forget thatlike America needs like America
revolution, bro.
Like it needs kind of hot.
Yeah.
It's getting really spicy rightnow.
Crazy right now.
It's getting real spicy rightnow, bro.
Um, how do you feel about it,bro?
It seemed a little hot rightnow.

(01:42:00):
It's just interesting to see,bro.
It really just is because it's,I feel like both people on the
right and the left aredissatisfied with with America
right now, with Americanpolitics.
You know what I mean?
Because the gunman, bro, he wasa right-winger.
I saw that.
You know what I mean?
This was, again, right-wingextremism.

(01:42:20):
I saw they tried to plantsomething in his car, I saw.
They tried to plant some No Kingposters.
Yeah, but no.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And who's they?
That's also, who's they?
Oh, when I say they, I mean theCIA.
Me personally.
Yeah.
I'm just saying because, again,we need to be more specific.
I'm real 60s with it.
To me, the CIA is doing all thisshit and they're proving

(01:42:41):
otherwise.
I'm real 60s with it.
I can't lie.
I believe it.
Yeah, like JFK, Martin LutherKing, Cuba, drugs.
And don't get it twisted.
When you say CIA, I don't thinkthat the gunman is CIA.
But I think the CIA worksthrough very suspicious forces.
Exactly.
Again, I think about it likethis, bro.
I was listening to this podcast,right?

(01:43:02):
Yeah.
And they were talking about backin the day during the Cold War,
the CIA was forming a lot ofshell organizations.
And they were using this as away to promote propaganda in
other countries.
So I don't know if you've everheard of Radio Free Asia before.
So it's a radio station that wasa CIA shell company.

(01:43:26):
Okay.
And again, people didn't know atthe time, but they thought radio
free Asia was like, just like arandom, like democratic radio
station that was just, you know,putting out, you know, like
non-biased information.
It's a CIA shell company as away to submit propaganda to
these, you know, to thesecommunist countries, you know,

(01:43:48):
exactly without necessarilyhaving to be so obvious about
it.
Right.
So what I think about is whatdoes that look like in the
modern day?
That looks like the CIA runningReddit forums.
You know what I mean?
It looks like the CIA makingconspicuous YouTube pages.
You know what I mean?
Putting out certain types ofinformation.

(01:44:09):
You know what I mean?
So when you say that, yeah, theCIA did it, I believe it.
And I believe that those are thetypes of ways that they're able
to go and get into your mindright there.
They still do it to this day.
Yeah, exactly.
They got CIA agents in these...
white supremacist forums.
You know what I mean?
Out here, you know, sowingdissent.

(01:44:31):
You know what I mean?
And getting people, you know,wild the fuck up.
Yeah, exactly.
You know, out here, rebelrousing and shit.
I think even the opposite.
I think even so much that I seesometimes, I feel like it's a
fake.
I feel like it's like an AImegabot.
Deadass.
Deadass.
And that's even nastier, too.
Here I am getting mad at aperson I can't even see.
Because when we think about,think about a bot, bro, and

(01:44:52):
think about how does a bot getcreated?
You know what I mean?

UNKNOWN (01:44:56):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (01:44:56):
Again, there's something that has to go into
that.
There's people behind the scenesbecause there's a reason why we
only get right-wing bots and notleft-wing bots.
There's a reason why wehaven't...
Bro, you haven't encountered anypro-communist bots yet.
There's a reason for that.
You know what I mean?
Even the bots and the shitthat's going out there to sow

(01:45:16):
disinformation, somebody'srunning that and controlling
that.
That's the CIA.
Yeah, that's the CIA.
That's the CIA because, again...
What regular person wouldbenefit from doing something
like that?
You know what I mean?
Don't get me wrong.
There's some lunatics out there.
Yeah, maybe.
Maybe.
But it's ones and twosies.
Yeah, and the thing is, thereare lunatics out there, and the
CIA gets them wild up to do thework for them.

(01:45:37):
Exactly.
That's the thing, yeah.
Exactly.
That's how you get those,like...
The CIA knows they don't need tosend one of their agents.
They're going to work throughyou, nigga.
Depends on if you believe ornot.
That's how you get some of thosedudes who, like, try to kill
Trump and some of those people.
No, I believe.
I believe.
And if you don't believe, you'rea fool.
That's all I'm going to sayright now.
You're a fool, bro.
You know what I mean?
If you don't believe it's theCIA or the FBI.

(01:45:58):
Somebody, yeah.
You're a fool, bro.
Because, bro, they even comeout, like you said, they come
out to admit to some of thesethings all these years later.
Yeah.
And it's like, no, I know thatmission.
That was actually real.
We did that in 1963.
That was a real thing.
You know.
So what's going to happen in2025?
Working with these drug lords inNicaragua or Nicaragua and
fucking El Salvador and shit.

(01:46:19):
That was conspiracy back in theday.
That was real.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
They was funding rebel groups.
Oh.
Now we know them niggas wasfunding rebel groups back in the
day.
They was giving them guns.
They was giving them drugs.
And now we just gotta wait till2050.
And then I'm like, yo, 2024?
Nah, that was us.
We did that.
Oh, okay.
You know?
So we was right.
Man, bro.

(01:46:39):
Honestly, I stayed way past theamount of time I was supposed to
stay.
I know.
You gotta go, bro.
Nah, we was fighting though,bro.
We still got some shit we didn'teven touch on, bro.
What do we still have left, bro?
I feel like we tapped...
We tapped in on like- It's Como.
We're just looking at AndrewComo, but we'll wait for that
one.
I can wait, bro.
Honestly, like, comment,subscribe.
We appreciate y'all for tappingin.
What, episode 67?
Yeah, episode 67, bro.

(01:47:00):
We was cooking.
We got the visuals today.
I know we got some more stuff tohear, bro.
We working on it, bro.
We working on it.
Also, we're not terrorists.
I know you guys might see the-To see the government might give
weapons next to a terroristgroup, I know it might look a
little crazy.
We're not that radical, butwe're just patriots, bro.

(01:47:21):
We're just patriots, man.
We're just very passionateabout...
You're seeing a real patriotright here.
That's it.
We're just passionate, bro.
What you got for him, brother,man?
Bro, if you made it to the end,bro, I appreciate y'all, man.
Be sure to like, subscribe,share, comment.
Even if you don't do any ofthat, man, just tell your
peoples, bro tell your friendstell your neighbors tell your

(01:47:42):
barber bro just tell everybodyabout you know the best podcast
on the internet right nowespecially we know for sure we
the best podcast in oc i knowthat for a fact you know what i
mean and on top of that bro it'soriginal bro one and only the
one and only bro ain't no fakesyou know we got you know we got
the bigger names you know tryingto steal from us episode three
yeah that's how bro that's how iknow we popping bro what we're

(01:48:04):
doing right now that's workingpopping bro and you know it's
only because of y'all though youknow what i mean like this can't
I wouldn't do this if it wasn'tfor y'all sending me the
messages that y'all do about howy'all fuck with the pod.
It makes you laugh.
It gets you motivated.
It gets you inspired, bro.
I do it for y'all, bro.

(01:48:24):
Yeah, bro.
Get people thinking.
I like that, bro.
I do it for y'all, bro.
Hey, we out here on Unapologeticepisode 67.
Like Newman said, we appreciatey'all, man.
If we make one person laugh,think.
Fucking just think aboutsomething different their day.
We appreciate it, bro.
We out.
Hope you have a good day.
Work, school, day off.
Whatever y'all doing, man.
Keep enjoying it.
Tell your people you love them,man.
Have a good

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