Episode 71 | "No Flex Zone" - Unapodogetic

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SPEAKER_01 (00:02):
Unapologetic.

SPEAKER_02 (00:04):
Unapologetic episode 71.
Yes, sir.
What's up, bro?
How you doing today?
Dude, I'm doing good, man.
I'm glad we're back.
It's been a while, you know, butback on track, man.
We're not going anywhere.
It's the real Unapologetic.
That last one was smooth, bro.
It was.
And then you shout out to thefake Unapologetic because we're
taking some of their fans.

(00:26):
So I appreciate that.
Nah, but let's get right intoit.
We missed some good hip-hop, butwe got to start off with some
good hip-hop, I feel like.
We'll get that for

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you.

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My father came, I turned his sons to bastards
Built their ass like JosephJackson, no relaxin' Rappin'
niggas

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are

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plastic,

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yeah

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It's

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alright if they

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wanna

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start

SPEAKER_01 (01:10):
that shit, yeah It's alright

SPEAKER_02 (01:19):
if they wanna start

SPEAKER_00 (01:23):
that shit, yeah

SPEAKER_02 (01:24):
Nah, we have some good hip-hop, dude, man.
We have some good hip-hop,though,

SPEAKER_01 (01:41):
bro.

SPEAKER_00 (01:48):
I don't buy back.
I've topped all these lists.

(02:09):
Where's my 60 day stars and 20year thousand.
There's not enough shopping.
I know you Shotgun with

SPEAKER_02 (02:29):
your ex now.
What's up, bro?
How you doing, brother?
We had a good weekend together,man.
We were having a good time.
How you feeling?
It was a good time, man.
Good weekend, you know, just...
Life's been lifin', man, youknow, but I'm glad I was able,
bro, he was able to go catch agame, bro.
Catch a break, bro, for real.
Yeah, man, that was my firsttime going to any type of NFL.
And, bro, SoFi's kind of like, Imean, it's only going to last

(02:51):
like 10 years, right?
Yeah.
So, SoFi's new, too, so yeah,man.
Bro, that stadium's fire.
Bro, I love that, bro.
I don't have too much to compareit to, but that shit was
amazing.
I love that stadium, bro.
I love that stadium.
That was amazing, bro.
I know the price is a littlecrazy, but I find that just
comes with it nowadays.
Yeah.
That just comes with it, but.
Honestly, I love the design,like, because, like, since it's

(03:12):
so close to the airport, theykind of had it, like, put it
below sea level.
So it was kind of crazy.
Yeah, bro, and I wasn'texpecting that at all.
I don't know what I expectedwhen I went over there, but,
like, being, like, on the groundfloor and once you, like, walk
in, you have to, like, lookdown.
Yeah.
That shit was insane, dude.
It was kind of crazy.
That's some...

(03:32):
crazy like architecture rightthere i need i need to see like
uh you remember that show howit's made oh yeah that's what i
need i need a how it's made onmy sofa stadium or something
hell yeah especially not becausebro even that like because not
technically a dome so like yeahi don't know what that expensive
ass tarp bro right bro i don'tunderstand how it just stays

(03:54):
there but man yeah but we had agood weekend man me and new bro
we got to go to the chargersgame took my son to the first
saints chargers game it was abit of good yeah man took our
ladies So shout out to ourfamily, bro.
We had a good one.
We had a good one.
That was just a good event.
I needed that, bro.
I needed that.
Just that reset, man.
Yeah.
I needed that reset, bro.
Your eyes been grinding.
Yeah, man.
This economy, bro.

(04:15):
This economy right now, bro.
Bro.
It's killing me.
Facts.
I've just been grinding, dog.
It's killing me, bro.
I saw a TikTok.
I don't know if this dude waslike joking, but it said he had
like four jobs.
I believe it.
And I was like, God damn.
I believe it.
In this economy?
That's right, bro.
I said it on some past pods,bro.
I really can't listen to no typeof music right now where they

(04:35):
talk about flexing.
Yeah, nah.
You talking about flexing on mein this economy, bro, is
disrespect.
It's disrespect.
That's the only way I'm takingit, bro.
I'm taking it as an act ofviolence.
I don't want to hear nothingabout the chains, the rollies,
the whips in this economy,nigga.
It's disrespect, bro.
It's$10 eggs right now, bro.
Don't disrespect me.
Are you crazy?
It's crazy, bro.

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I'm like, I know it didn'teven...
Does this feel worse than 08?
Bro, this has got to be worsethan 08.
It do.
It feels terrible.
Yeah?
It feels terrible.
I feel like I'm not getting nobang for my buck right now.
Bro, no air.
Not Taco Bell, McDonald's.
walmart you can't even go towalmart yeah i was just watching
this tiktok too where uh theywere talking about how like dumb

(05:20):
um fast food restaurants brothey're doing bad right now not
only are they doing that badthey're actually um places like
chili's and applebee's and olivegarden are outperforming you
know a lot of these these fastfood spots i can see that yeah
and it makes sense because yougot people you know Think about,
like, McDonald's, for example,bro.
Average price of a meal, you'respending$10 for a combo.

(05:41):
Oh, easy.
Yeah, you know, and it's like...
The average person is thinking,why would I spend$10 for the
combo when I could go to Chili'sor Applebee's and spend$12, get
better quality food, you know.
Unlimited refills.
Right.
Unlimited chips.
Yup.
You talking.
Yeah.
That's what I'm saying.
So that's why people are,they're just, they're going

(06:01):
other places with their money,bro.
I'm with them, bro.
I feel like we should, bro.
I'm sick of, like you said, the$15 meals at Jack in the Box.
Right.
Jack in the box, bro.
Bro, like, that used to be heldfor, like, fast food luxury,
like, Carl's Jr.
Yeah.
You know, the thicker burgers,but now it's, like, McDonald's
15 bucks.
Like, I'd expect that from,like, Wendy's or something, bro.

(06:22):
Yeah, bro.
But, you know, I'm not spending$15 for some monkey meat, bro.
You spending 15 on the monkeymeat and the horse meat?
Because the meat ain't changed,you know, bro.
Yeah, it's the same.
All right, it's still the samemeat.
It's the same.
If anything, I'm pretty sureit's gotten worse.
Yeah, it's probably, like,growing the lab.
Yup.
It's not in the real hand.
Yeah, I'm telling you that,monkey meat with mixed with all
the filler and everything.
And now you want me to spendbro.

(06:44):
11, 12 bucks on that.
I was cool with doing it when itwas five.
Yeah.
You know, I was cool with eatinga little bit of monkey meat when
it was$5.
Even the$7.50 wasn't bad.
I don't want to pay$7.50.
That was really when it wasquestionable.
I was like, damn,$7.50.
And if I'm spending$7.50, Ineed, I better be getting at
least a quarter pounder.
Yeah.
But now it's like, bro, you'regetting a double cheeseburger

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and some fries and a drink for$7.50.
That's it.
Which is outrageous.
And you're still hungry.
It's like, damn, bro.
It's outrageous, bro.
And it's like, yeah, bro it'sit's crazy times man it's like
we just keep pointing andblaming each other and that's
why i'm like bro that's why wejust gotta get rid of the
parties because they ain'tlooking out for us bro because

(07:28):
they ain't looking out for usbro because i know i i saw
supposedly like uh i think likenancy's uh pelosa i saw she was
uh now trying to put like a umShe was trying to endorse, like,
a new, like, you know, senatorshouldn't be placing money on,
like, stocks and shit.
Oh, yeah, they're calling it theNancy Pelosi Act.
Yeah, bro.
Yeah, because she's one of themain ones.
Yeah, she's the main one gettingon that guap.

(07:50):
Bro, she got, like,$100 million,bro.
A lot of that's off of, like,investments.
Off of lobbying, nigga.
Yeah.
And now she's trying to be like,let's not do it no more.
Right.
Now she's dying on the way out.
Now she's in her 80s, huh?
That's why I'm like, bro, it'snasty.
Bro, that's what I'm saying.
They ain't looking out for us,bro.
They don't care, bro.
Yeah, they don't care.
They don't care.
This whole time she's been doingthis.

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And we can't get none.
We can't even get no free healthcare.
Maybe even some child taxcredits.
We really need that to hit.
Give us a little grocerystimulus.
A little grocery stimulus.
Come on, bro.
We all American.
Come on, bro.
Can't get no STEMI, bro.

(08:32):
Yeah, give me a grocery STEMI,bro.
Here's$600 for the groceries.
Thanks.
That'll do for a little monthand a half, you know what I
mean?
Yeah, man.
But it's tough, bro.
Yeah, bro, it's tough times.
It's tough right now, bro.
Tough times, bro.
I guess to get away from that,we got to talk about some good
music.
Yeah, man.
Hey, the music.
I feel like that's one of thethings, though.
Whenever times get tough, themusic gets a little better.

(08:53):
So we'll see, hopefully.
You're not lying.
You're not lying.
It's been some few...
How do you feel about it so far?
I know we missed the Clipsalbum.
I know Off Mic, we talked alittle bit about the Clips
album.
I know you didn't listen to ittoo much, but how do you feel
even on the first listen?
Uh, it was cool, bro.
It was cool.
It was cool.
It was cool.
Um, yeah, yeah.
It's, uh, I didn't think it wasbad, bro.

(09:13):
For some reason lately, Ihaven't really been listening to
too much hip hop or like the hiphop I have been listening to.
It's been very selective.
Like I said, I've been trying tostay away from niggas flexing on
me.
Yeah.
I've been trying to stay fromthe flexing and the gun
violence.
It's only a select few niggasflex on me, bro.
Freddie's one of them.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'm a big Freddie fan.
I'm a, I'm a support Freddie.

(09:34):
I spent money on Freddie before,bro.
So, you know, Freddie, but, uh,honestly, bro, I've been
listening to that.
Give me on a lot, bro.
I don't know if you heard thatnew Gideon project, bro.
I love Gideon.
I know he dropped.
I've been listening to that newGideon, bro.
I saw Bryson Tiller drop.
I know Gideon dropped.
I've been bumping that Gideon.
Oh, see, that's why I need togo, too.

(09:54):
Bro, honestly, I was a bigGideon fan, man.
I mean, I still am, but I don'tknow.
For some reason, his release hasbeen quiet recently, man.
I don't know why it happened tothe backing on the label and
stuff, but I didn't know itdropped.
Bro, he's he's too big anyways.
He's one of those guys, bro.
I don't, he, he don't need thelabel.
It's kind of true.
Yeah.
Cause when you look at the statson like Spotify, bro, he got

(10:15):
like a billion streams onmultiple sites.
Yeah.
He got a fan base.
He got a fan base.
Yeah.
And it's, uh, like I said, theway I really rank somebody being
famous, bro, like how famousthey are is if my mom knows
about them.
Yeah.
My little sister knows aboutthem.
Yeah.
And if my girl knows about them.
Yeah.
That's pretty, that's a prettygood range.
He's hit all three, bro.

(10:35):
Yeah.
He's at all three.
Same.
I'm, Exactly.
If your mom knows who Gideon is,yeah.
Yeah, he's that big.
Because then that means they hitthe radio.
And once you hit the radio, it'slike, all right, bro.
Like, you definitely made itwith the old folks.
Yeah, man.
And then, like, the old, like,my mom's one of those older
ladies.
Like, she ain't always trying tohear, like, the rap.
She, like, you know, like, she alittle older.

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So, like, she ain't reallytrying to hear, like, the
bitches and hoes.
Yeah.
So, she definitely, shedefinitely, yeah, yeah, yeah.
She definitely like the R&Bmore.
Yeah.
She be knowing, like, um, her.
She be knowing, like, theyounger R&B.
Yeah.
She be knowing, like, theyounger acts.
I'm like, okay, mom.
That should be funny.
That always trips me out,though, bro.
Whenever you walk in on mom'splants or shit, you're like, how
you know about this?
How you know?
Yeah, I be feeling like an oldfolk.
What you know about, what youknow about that her?

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But it's funny.
I'm like, okay.
Like, okay.
So, it's cool, bro.
Yeah.
what happened to me, bro.
I heard my mom bumping Gideonone day.
I was like, what you know aboutGideon?

SPEAKER_01 (11:26):
She was like, I love Gideon.

SPEAKER_02 (11:28):
I was like, what?
How you learn about Gideon, bro?
Since when?
Nah, it's funny because we soold, bro.
It's like, that music he's evensampling, shit, our parents was
like listening to those.
It's kind of funny.
Yeah?
It's kind of funny how like,shit.
But that's another thing that'skind of holding me away from
these newer rap artists.

(11:50):
We're getting into the era wherethey're starting to sample the
samples.
And half the time, it's not evena sample.
Sometimes they're just doingstraight covers of songs, bro.
You're just doing a straightcover right now, and I can't
hear it.
I don't want to do it, butSweetie was very big into that,
I feel like.
She was covering all thosesongs.
And I'm not even surprised, too,because Sweetie was one of them

(12:10):
artists, bro, ish.
It came and went.
Yeah, bro, she was rocking offof straight looks.
Yeah, and then Quavo fame for alittle bit.
She had the looks and then theQuavo flame.
Yeah.
And then once the Quavo flamekind of died down, and then
people kind of got over it,like, you know what I mean?
The whole, like, fashion thing,whatever shit.
And it was kind of just like,the music was ass, and it was
kind of like, oh, yeah.

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Everyone kind of just moved on.
So I was like, yeah, honestly,all her songs kind of was like,
when you start sending, like,yin-yang twins and, like...
D4L.
It's just like, where are we at?
You sampling Laffy Taffy?
Yeah.
Get him up out of here, bro.
Like, nigga, that's 05.
Yeah.
You sampling.
It's criminal.
Yeah.
It's criminal.
That's what you sampling?

(12:52):
Bro, it's too much music outhere, bro, for them to sample
the same shit over and over,bro.
It's lazy.
It's crazy.
I say it all the time.
It's lazy, bro.
I think that's why I'm so like,we'll talk about the Alfredo 2.
I just dropped I think that'swhy I'm so big on Alchemist I
know he do be looping a lot andshit though but it's like it's a
lot of like fresh beats thoughstill it is so I'm like I do

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that's why I do love like listento his beats yeah he does he has
a very specific sound bro I feellike that comes with like every
producer bro they always theygonna have their their specific
sound bro but it's always it'salways something new though bro
you know what I mean it's alwayssomething refreshing you know
you're not it's no lazy bullshitwith Alchemist bro exactly bro
Nothing lazy with Alchemist,bro.

(13:36):
I think that's why I appreciatehis...
You know...
his tapes.
Yeah, and that's what I'msaying, too, because you already
know how I feel about, you know,white guys and hip-hop.
I'd be giving them the blacktreatment.
You got to be twice as good, andyou're only going to make it
half as far with me, but theAlchemist?
Yeah, he's up there.
Yeah, yeah, the Alchemist's upthere, bro.
And he from SoCal, so...
Yeah, you know, so I got torespect it.
I got to respect it, bro.

(13:56):
And honestly, bro, he's beenputting on heat this year, that
Larry June and 2 Chainz.
Yup, yeah.
That was a good album.
I was fucking with that, bro.
And then the Alfredo 2.
What's one of your favoritesongs off the album, man?
Off Alfredo 2?
Yeah.
Honestly, I, What you liking?
Freddie really knows how to justcompose an album, bruh.
Again, he knows, make sure thefirst song is fucking, that

(14:18):
should be the best song.
You know what I mean?
Because I hate when an artist,bro, when the first song on the
album isn't the best song,nigga.
It should be the first, itshould be the best song, or the
second best.
Yeah, you should lock me in.
And then again, the last songtoo, was it like A Thousand
Mountains, bro?
Yeah, that's a good song.
Bro, that one, he had the, whatwas it, Lemon Pepper Steppers?

(14:40):
Lemon Pepper Stappers.
Bro, again, there's a goodamount of tracks on there that I
was fucking with, bro.
There was a good amount oftracks that I was fucking with.
Were you fucking with some ofthe features?
Yeah.
Yeah, I was, bro.
I really liked the Anderson.Paakfeature, bro.
Yeah, that's one of myfavorites.
That's what I'm saying, bro.
I really, I like that, bro.
I like the, I think Jed had oneon like the Golden Feet, I
think.

(15:00):
Yeah, honestly, I like Freddiecoming again.
I know Freddie's one of thoseartists that like, he's never
going to be quote unquotemainstream.
Yeah.
Like I don't think Freddie Gibbsis ever going to do a hundred K
first week.
I just not the artist.
Yeah.
What does that mean?
Cause again, we went to theFreddie show, bro.
It was packed, sold out.
It was deep.
So it's like, I think that'slike a three K, four K.

(15:22):
Yeah.
So I'm like, honestly, bro, ifhe's selling out three, four K a
night, Yeah.
And yeah, he was there twonights in a row.
That's a good bag.
You know, yeah.
That's a good bag.
You know, you saw both nights,bro.
It's like, yeah.
It's not all about streams,yeah.
It's not, bro.
Streams, it really, it's notholding too much weight anymore,
bro.
Especially because we know aboutstreaming farms, bro.
Facts, facts.

(15:42):
And the way the algorithm, theway the algorithm's set up now
to where it's when you go tolike these new like mixes that
they give you on Spotify andstuff.
I've been seeing that.
Bro, the labels are paying toget certain songs.
I've been seeing that, bro.
Yeah, bro, it's the same.
We're almost transitioning full-circle back to radio nigga yeah
you know what i mean that'sreally what it's like our
streaming apps yeah yeah exactlylike again they they're doing

(16:04):
like the new like ai dj on thereand again you know these record
labels bro they have a hand inhell yeah yeah they have no
suggest you dj cali i rememberthat bro bro now my spotify was
playing dj cali randomly iremember that scam The fattest
Palestinian on earth.

(16:24):
Is he?
He's Palestinian, bro.
Is he?
Yeah, you ain't seen DaveChappelle say that?
No, no, no.
Dave Chappelle definitely got agripe with him.
But I'm saying, DJ Khaled stillain't said Free Palestine once.
Nah, he ain't.
He ain't.
Disgusting.
Like I said, fattest Palestinianon earth, bro.
He ain't lying.
That nigga eating good.
Not showing no love to hispeople, bro.

(16:47):
I don't know.
Maybe behind closed doors.
But if we're in the era, though,nigga, you got to do stuff
publicly.
At least for Palestine, bro.
Because, again, how many famousPalestinians are there?
I don't know too many.
DJ Khaled's the most famousPalestinian, bro.
I don't know too many, bro.
I can't lie.
That's the most famousPalestinian.
So for him to never say freePalestine, it's kind of like,

(17:07):
hmm.
He's been so quiet, niggasdidn't even know he was
Palestinian, bro.
Yeah, yeah.
I ain't seen one workout video.
I ain't seen nothing.
You ain't lying.
Yeah, this has really been thequietest I've seen DJ Khaled.
He's been laying low.
Yeah, but now let's keep ithip-hop, bro.
Did you peep that Tyler album,bro?
Yeah, bro.
I mean, it was different.

(17:31):
So my 80s, some like hip-hopdance influence.
I thought it was a good album,bro.
But like me, you talked off mic.
I'm not gonna lie.
I listened to it one time.

SPEAKER_03 (17:38):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (17:38):
I listened to it one time.
Good album, but I'm not gonnarun it back again.
I'm gonna keep it real.
Yeah.
And I think it's one of thosethings, bro, to where, bro,
Tyler's been on a crazy runlately, bro.
Stupid.
Like, bro, he's put out likewhat three four classic albums
in a row you know to where it'slike you know if this is
experimental yeah you know and ifeel like it's one of those

(17:59):
things i'm gonna have to give itanother listen to bro but i feel
like we just have such a highexpectation of tyler at this
point bro exactly because of hiswhole body of work bro that's
again you're expecting somethingamazing because honestly where
are we gonna go from since uhshit i don't know i don't know
what No?
What, Flower Boy?
No.

(18:20):
Is it Flower Boy?
Is that the one?
Which one?
What are you talking about?
It's what, Flower Boy, Call MeIf You Get Lost.
He had a few good ones.
Yeah, and then Igor.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Damn, yeah.
Three, four album runs.
He had a few.
And I say the last, bro, thelast album he put out before
this.
Even Chronotopia wasn't bad.
Yeah.
It wasn't bad.
It was cool.
I'm not going to put it in the-Call Me If You Get Lost, bro.

(18:41):
That got some replay value toit, bro.
That got some crazy replay.
I still bump that on a regularbasis, bro.
That got some crazy replay.
And honestly, even some ofTyler's early work, I know we
don't like to talk about hisDemon albums- No, I still fuck
with it.
Like, Cherry Bomb.
That's exactly what I was goingto say.
Cherry Bomb.
Like, Cherry Bomb's not a badalbum.

(19:02):
I still find myself going backto Cherry Bomb, bro.
Yeah, Cherry Bomb's not a badalbum.
We talked about this on the podbefore, bro.
Tyler really got some classics,bro.
Tyler got some classics, bro.
He's a top five rapper at alltimes.
All time.
Yeah.
No, at all times.
Oh, okay.
While he's being active, he'salways in conversation.
Yeah, he's up there.

(19:22):
I'm always going to put him, ofcourse, Gibbs, those type of
spitters.
And you see, it's interesting,too, because those are two
different sides of the spectrumright there.
Tyler's very mainstream.
It is, yeah.
He's very mainstream, bro.
And Gibbs, it's not asmainstream.
It's kind of interesting how...
gibbs really has his own pocketbut it's dope though yeah

(19:43):
because you know what freddie tome feels like a very that's like
a a cult following type ofrapper right he is you know
because i wouldn't even sayfreddie's underground though
bruh because again wasn't henominated for like a grammy or
something yeah bro you know whati mean like that's a that's a uh
you got a cult following brofreddie's awful about west side
gun i think he's he's biggerthan west side gun no I don't

(20:07):
know, though, bro.
He's bigger than West Side.
West Side Gun's been on a crazyfeature run.
Nah, because I'm going to tellyou like this, bro.
Like I said, bro, my mom, mysister, and my girl, that's the
measuring stick right there.
Okay, that's fair.
I don't even think any of thosethree know who West Side Gun is.
Seriously?
Yeah.
My little sister, she knows whoWest Side Gun is.

(20:27):
No, no, Freddie.
She knows who Freddie is.
She don't know West Side Gun?
I'm surprised.
I don't think West Side likethat.
Another reason I say that isbecause he be doing the WWE
shit.
And you see West Side, again,that might just be another niche
right there.
Another, like, just cultfollowing.
True, true.
Does that mean, yeah?
Yeah.
That's why I thought the kidswould know him from the WWE
stuff.

(20:47):
Yeah.
So I'm like, damn, I'm surprisedthe kids would know him from WWE
stuff.
But, yeah, honestly, it's justdifferent, though.
It's just a different era.

UNKNOWN (20:55):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (20:56):
Shit, there's another, I mean, Jid Drop.
I listen to Jid Drop.
You listen to Jid Drop?
I gotta peep that Jid, bro.
I listen, I know Jid Drop,Bryson Tiller.
There's a lot of good music out,man.
I listen to that Lil' Simsproject.
Oh, how was that?
Honestly, it was cool.
It was cool.
I gave it like two, threelistens, bro.
Pretty good.
It was a good album.

(21:16):
Okay.
It was a good album.
I need to get up on Lil' Simsmore.

SPEAKER_03 (21:19):
Definitely,

SPEAKER_02 (21:20):
she's a very creative artist, bro.
Very creative.
Yeah, man.
You've been on that for a littlebit.
Yeah, you know, because...
To me, Sims, she got a classicalbum, bro.
It's the first one?
What is it?
Yeah, I forgot, bro.
I forget the name.
It's not the first one, bro.
It's the one with the yellowalbum cover.
Okay, yeah.
I forget the name to it, bro.
That's a classic album.
I've definitely seen that a fewtimes.
It's a classic album, bro.

(21:41):
And so, to me, I'm always justlike, especially because I hate
on UK artists a lot, bro.
She's, bro, breath of fresh airfrom the UK, bro.
Seriously?
Yeah, man.
That's fair.
Yeah, because I don't like togive UK artists credit
whatsoever when it comes tohip-hop.
That's fair, bro.
Because again, it's like, man,do your own shit.
Okay?
Get back to making ska, nigga.
All right?
I don't need no hip-hop from themotherfuckers in the UK.

(22:04):
Especially, bro, that drillsound that was coming.
Bro, it was awful.
Honestly.
It was awful, bro.
Yeah, honestly.
Drill is one of the worstgenres.
Well, you don't like UK drill atall?
Bro, I don't like any type ofdrill.
I'm going to keep it real withyou, bro.
I can't lie.
I used to like that Chief KeithChicago drill when I was
younger.
I'm not going to do it.
And you know what?
I don't even know if I considerChief Keith drill, bro.

(22:25):
It was Chicago drill.
It was.
I mean, honestly, I don't thinkChief...
He wasn't really drilled, to behonest with you.
I don't consider him drilled.
Maybe he made some drill trackstowards the end of his career.
Yeah, but early Chief Keef, theywasn't calling that drill.
Yeah.
They wasn't calling it drill.
It was like Chicago.
Yeah, that was just a shy rack.
When I remember hearing thatshit in high school, niggas

(22:47):
wasn't calling it drill.
Yeah, not yet.
You know?
It's a little different, though.
But yeah, that UK.
So you don't like Central Sea,none of those niggas.
I don't.
I can't stand it.
I can't stand it, bro.
One, two, then two, then three,then a four.
No?
All right.
Yeah, bro, I hate it.
Boom, cluck, cluck, cluck,cluck, cluck.
I hate it, bro.
Those niggas be cracking me up.

(23:07):
This, bro, is so corny to me,bro.
That's fair.
It's so corny to me, bro.
Yes, that's fair, bro.
I'm not going to hold you to thefire.
And like I said, too, bro,Central Sea, bro, what is it,
working with Drake?
Bro, that's what I'm, bro, cornballs.
Cornballs, bro.
I thought you were going to saybad words for a second.
I was like, oh, shit.

(23:28):
What was he about to say?
I was like, oh, shit.
He's calling them cornballs.
Never mind.
I was like, oh, lord.
That's how I know, bro.
It's industry.
It's very industry at thispoint.
It is, bro.
It is.
If you're out here, if they'retrying to push you with the
Drake feature, bro, it'sindustry, bro.
Honestly, I didn't want to talkabout Drake since we're here.
Bro, I'm always going to bashDrake.
I got to ask you, bro.

(23:48):
How do you...
I mean...
i gotta ask you bro drake ithink drake's on like his
fucking fifth single at thispoint yeah i think the ties he's
cracked is probably like 18 19 itold it's over for drake bro i
said it on on some of the lastpods it's over is this over bro
bro again when we look at drakebro from a marketing standpoint

(24:09):
all right drake is a brand yeahokay drake is a brand bro
kendrick completely destroyedthe image of the brand because
the whole purpose of a brandright is to cause you it makes
you think about a image orsomething in your mind when you
hear the name yeah you know whati mean again it's to the point
now there's a whole generationof kids these new kids bro they

(24:32):
wasn't here for for take careyou know what i mean yeah they
weren't around for uh nothingwas the same you know again so
when When they hear the nameDrake, when they think about the
brand, Drake, they're thinkingabout a certified pedophile.
That's what it is now.
The brand is tainted.

(24:53):
Yeah, the brand is tainted, bro.
The image that pops into yourmind when you hear Drake is
pervert.
That's always been for me.
Especially now, too, withthat...
The way I feel about it, bro,bumping Drake at this time,
too...
I'm trying to push the narrativethat bumping Drake's almost

(25:13):
equivalent to bumping Kels, bro.
If you bumping Drake, you'redamn near...
Because, again, think about howbig that...
Yo, stop.
I like Kels, bro.
And that's cool, because ifpeople can like Drake, why can't
we fuck with Kels?
I'm not saying I'm thumping Kelslike that on a regular.
Not on a regular, but if itcomes on, I'm not skipping it.
I'm going to be honest.
But that's what I'm saying,because you know what I think

(25:34):
about on a regular, bro?
I think about when that Kelsdocumentary came out, right?
Everybody was trying to shit onKels talking about how did this
happen.
Get his music off Spotify.
Yeah, how did people let thishappen, yada, yada, yada.
I could tell you how they let ithappen.
It's happening right now withDrake.
It's happening right now withDrake.
Facts.
When you're good enough, okay,when you're good enough, bro,

(25:55):
and you're in bed with the rightpeople, all right, they gonna
push you, bro.
Yeah, pay that money off.
Yeah, they gonna push you, bro.
Yeah, because honestly, whengirls, I mean, they could be
lying, but When you got girlscoming, like old Snapchats
coming out of nowhere and oldTikToks talking about, I want
the Jake's, I want the Drake'shouse.
I'm a senior in high school.
Yeah.

(26:15):
And again, like I said, I don'teven need to see all that.
Drake has came from Drake'smouth before, bro.
Again, bro, we seen, bro, he wason that Leonardo DiCaprio shit,
bro.
What?
Yep.
Dating a lot of 18-year-olds.
A lot of 18-year-olds.
We seen it from Drake.
A lot of 18-year-olds.
Again, I'll never forget, bro.
I'll never forget.
A lot.
Millie Bobby Brown was talkingabout she was friends with

(26:38):
Drake.
Yep.
And she was 13.
That

SPEAKER_03 (26:39):
was Texans.

SPEAKER_02 (26:40):
What are we...
Like, again, at this point, bro,people, bro, their minds must be
glued on fucking backwards.
At first, we was like, nah, notDrake, but nah, it was Drake.
Yeah.
I don't believe it, bro.
If it's anybody else who's notDrake, if Drake didn't give us
take care, bro, we're callingthe police.
We're calling Chris Hansen.

(27:01):
If a nigga was like, oh,Ludacris was texting a
13-year-old superstar, like,lock up Ludacris, nigga.
You're not lying.
Because what are we talkingabout your friends with a
13-year-old?
But I feel like we try to giveDrake that, like, that pop star
pass where it's like...
Ain't no pass, bro.
I mean, it's not a...
But you know what I'm referringto.
No, because you know what Ithink about...

(27:21):
It's that Mike shit.
I think about all the oldschool, like, childhood stars,
bro, like the Orlando Browns,the Lindsay Lohans, the Macaulay
Culkins, all of those people whoyou heard about was like at
these parties doing coke, doingthis with adults.
That's exactly what we're seeingright now with Drake.
Those niggas thought they wasfriends with those adults, bro.

(27:45):
That's how it started.
That's how you get a 13-year-oldor a 12-year-old to do coke.
You have her hanging out with abunch of adults talking about,
oh, we're friends.
Yeah, we all do it.
It's part of the industry.
There's no type of boundarysetting for many of those
people.
And that's so dangerous, bro.
I think it's even weirder whenlike, Some of those girls we

(28:06):
speak of was like Drake wasfriends with her when she was
14.
Yeah.
Because he knew the dad.
Yeah.
And he dated her.
And again, we've already seentoo that these parents, bro,
these parents will pimp outtheir kids for some money.
We've seen it.
For some fame, bro.
We've seen it with our own eyes.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Again, so it's like how manymore times do we have to see it
before we could recognize thatthis is how the pattern starts,
bro?
Yeah.

(28:26):
You know?
And I think we got to that pointto where it's like Drake's
exposed.
Yeah.
And then I think about toowhat...
The harm, whenever we see Drakecome out with these artists,
bro, again, it feels soindustry, bro.
We talked about it on the podbefore.
Drake was coming out with what,like Morgan Wallen, you know?
Again, there's a space for Drakewith the right-wingers.
He knows.
Because I'm about to get intothat, too, with we definitely

(28:48):
know now the right-wingers andthe Trumpers, bro, they're for
pedophilia.
They ain't released Epsteinfiles.
They ain't never releasedEpstein files.
These people should not beallowed to go about their
business, bro.
without being called out on aregular basis.
Every time we think about thesepeople, we should be thinking
about the hand that they playedin promoting pedophilia.

(29:10):
In promoting sex trafficking,bro.
And that's what I think aboutnow, too, when you got Drake
trying to promote Sexy Red.
Sexy Red's trying to sell sex tochildren, bro.
Simple as that.
she's selling porn to kids broshe's selling porn to kids and
the sooner we can recognize thatbro and that's what i thought
too when you know what otheralbum i was listening to bro who

(29:32):
don't judge me bro don't judgeme i was listening to that beebs
album a little bit bro i waslistening to that new justin
bieber album bro but i'm gonnajudge you it's good it's a good
album hey bro it's some cooltracks on there but there was
this one bro i was reallyfucking with it until sexy ray
got on there bro bro she didn'tshe didn't belong on it at all

(29:53):
bro she didn't along on thealbum at all and to me what it
felt like i skipped that yeahand it was a good song it was
sexy red wasn't in it bro but tome when i hear when i hear
somebody like sexy red gettingon that track bro that feels
like uh the powers up top andthe label was like hey hey bb
yeah we need you to work withsexy right take this brain

(30:14):
exactly we need you to be outhere and putting on an artist
who's out here promoting fuckingpornography to kids, bruh.
We need to get Sexy Red into theother community.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying,because again, Sexy Red isn't
fucking talented, bro.
She's not.
She's not.
She's not.
And honestly, and I know wetalked about this.
If you're an OG pod fan, youknow this, but we talked about
this before, bro.

(30:35):
There's nothing wrong with sexappeal in hip hop, bro.
We had it forever, bro.
We had Foxy Brown.
We had it forever, dog.
But Sexy Ray is not on the levelof any of those women.
She can't rap, she can't sing,and she's half naked.
She's half naked the whole time.
Bro, all those old school videovixen icons, that was bad too,

(30:56):
bro.
I'm not going to go and try toplay that off Yeah, I'm not
going to try to justify it, bro.
That was bad, but at the time,bro, I was a child.
That was part of hip-hop,though, yeah.
Yeah, I was a child, bro.
It's hard for me to see throughthe propaganda.
I'm a grown man now.
Like I said, I've been listeningto hip-hop for over 20 years
now, nigga.
We've been listening to hip-hopfor over 20 years now, bro.

(31:17):
It's a part of it.
Yeah, so at this point, bro,I've been listening long enough
to be able to recognize thatthat's what that is right there
when we hear sexy red, bro.
They're trying, bro, they'retrying.
There's people at the top, thosetiny hatters, bro.
They're trying to push a certainimage about the black community.
Nah, that's a fact.
They're trying to push...
And they're pushing that image.
They're pushing those ideasthrough the mainstream music,

(31:38):
bro.
Bro, fact.
You know?
And getting older is realizingthat, you know what?
Sometimes it is the music.
Yeah.
Sometimes it is the video gamesfucking the kids up.
Yeah, bro.
And it's not because thegames...
Well, yes, it's because thegames are bad, but also because
a kid can't decipher shit, bro.
He's a kid.
Yeah, exactly.
Exactly, bro.
It's like, yeah, sometimes itis, bro.
He's a kid, bro.

(31:59):
It's supposed to be some kidshit sometimes.
Yeah, man.
And that's...
I just, I can't ignore it atthis point, bro.
So when I see, like, Sexy Red,like, bro, it literally...
it gives me like a visceralresponse to where I'm just like,
ugh.
It's just nothing but alarmsgoing off in my head whenever I
hear about that, bro.
Because she's not even talented,bro.
When I compare Sexy Red to likea Glorilla or a Meg, and even

(32:23):
then, they sell sex to a certainextension.
But again, there's some sort oftalent there, bro.
Sexy Red's just gross.
I could at least go to somebars.
Okay, like, Glorilla's got somebars.
Sexy Red's just disgusting, bro.
Just a walking...
Fuck my baby daddy.
Yeah, just a walking...
Free my baby daddy.
And I hate that she, like,promotes that, like, you know,

(32:43):
that, like, my baby daddy injail.
I just hate it.
I hate it.
I hate it.
And, bro, again, that is veryharmful in the long term, bro.
It's very harmful, bro.
Because all it does is justnormalize, like, you know.
Again, I feel like we're livingin an era, bro, to where people
think marriage is more...

(33:03):
of a commitment than having ababy with somebody yeah you know
what i mean people much ratherjust have a baby with you before
they get married they're likethey're like why i got oh i
gotta get ready for the divorceyou know you know and that's and
again the way you shape thatmindset the way you get people
on board with that mindset broit's through the music and and
the way that works bro it's notlike you're gonna i don't

(33:24):
believe you just hear sexy redone time and then it's like oh
okay but again it's over andover and over again where again
you're just subtly you'resitting And you're outside more.
And I said it on the pod before,bro, that it's poison, right?
The type of shit's poison.
And the best way to poisonsomebody is to make them poison

(33:45):
themselves.
Yeah.
To make the poison sound good.
Sound great.
They be outside with the girls,get it set, have a great time.
But then, no, but it's a sad,and it goes vice versa for men,
but it's different.
Yeah?
It goes, like, the same way,because then, like, you start
living that lifestyle.
Then the dudes you run into tourat the club without that certain
lifestyle.

(34:06):
And actually, you know, it waslike Danny 35.
Yeah.
And that's like, are you stillat the club with sexy red?
Cause I'll even put it like thistoo, for y'all, for everybody
who's still not feeling me, bro.
There's people out there whohave, a vested interest in
making sure that this music, itlow-key brainwashes us, all
right?
Think about this, dude.
When you promote this idea of,you know, baby mama culture, and

(34:30):
that's just from the femaleside.
If we're talking about themales, right, when they're out
here promoting this idea ofviolence, you know, and
delinquency, right?
Multiple women.
Yeah, there's people who have aninterest in making sure that
agenda gets pushed because itjust promotes their business.
Now, whose business are wetalking about?
I'm talking about the prisonindustrial complex.
The nigga who's invested inprivate prisons has a vested

(34:52):
interest in making sure violencegets pushed out to the youth.
To fill that prison up.
Exactly.
To fill that prison up.
Exactly.
It's filling up his pocketbooks.
It's nasty, bro.
Same thing with Sexy Red and thebaby mama culture, bro, and
promoting BBLs and all that.
There's people out there whohave a vested interest in making
sure young women or young girlsfeel insecure about themselves.

(35:15):
Newman cooking, bro.
Sephora has a vested interest inmaking sure young women feel
insecure about themselves.
These makeup companies.
Again, bro, these plastics.
Dr.
Miami has a vested interest inmaking sure that you feel
insecure about yourself.

(35:35):
Imagine, imagine if naturalbecame trendy, bro.
Dr.
Miami might be out of a job.
Unless he knows how to doreverse BBLs.
Instead, you got girls gettinglight black 22.
Exactly.
Exactly.
You got girls, bro, 23, 24,getting their third BBL.
crazy.
Again, there's people who have avested interest in this type of
agenda getting pushed, bro.

(35:55):
Yeah, bro.
I feel like they're definitelyfucking up the family dynamic.
Yeah, and that's exactly what itis, because even think about it
like this too, bro.
Pushing baby mama culture, allthat does now is putting
somebody in the position now,when you're dependent on a
single family household, you'regoing to take whatever fucking
job somebody gets.
That's it.
Exactly.
And as I see it right now,McDonald's is low on workers.

(36:17):
Burger King's low on workers.
they have a vested interest inmaking sure you're desperate and
you take whatever job they giveyou at whatever weight.
Then they try to shit on youtoo.
Exactly.
Why are you adult taking this?
And they know they could shit onyou because again, you don't
have any type of family supportnow.
Yep.
Now you need this job.
Yep.
Exactly.

(36:38):
And I don't even want to shit onpeople who work at Burger King
or McDonald's because, again, Ido believe all jobs are
important.
Those are important.
All jobs are important, bro.
That's not what we're saying.
But those jobs specifically,though, they want to take
advantage of people, bro.
Because what happened to thegood old time where they gave it
to the young kids, bro?
They gave it to the young adultsand you was able to get paid.
Of course, the managers arealways older.

(37:00):
But now it's like you boxing outthe young kids.
Ain't no summer jobs no more.
That don't exist no more.
And it gets even nastier, bro,because like we was just talking
about, bro, these meals atMcDonald's, bro, costing$11.
Workers are still underpaid.
Facts.
Niggas are still gettingunderpaid.
Where's the money going?
They got a little bump, butthat's it.
Yeah, where's the money going,nigga?

(37:20):
What, they went to 21 or someshit?
Come on, bro.
They got a little bump.
And again, if you ask me, theydeserve- A billion dollar
corporation.
Yeah.
But if you ask me, themmotherfuckers deserve way more
than that, bro.
Bro, facts.
Like I said, bro, I said it on apod before, too.
When motherfuckers go there,they expect their food to be
hot, fast, okay?

(37:40):
And accurate, nigga.
Are you going to cuss at you?
Yeah, exactly.
Exactly.
And think about this, dude.
Think about, bro, they're notallowed to run fades.
Again, that's why I shit on thepolice so much, too, bro.
Because, again, every other job,bro, people have to take getting
disrespected from regularcitizens, bro.
Yeah, hell yeah.
They can't fight back, you know.

(38:01):
Again, even though I know anigga at Burger King or
McDonald's would be able towhoop somebody's fucking ass,
bro.
You just gotta take it.
You know what?
They just gotta take it.
Yeah, you just gotta take it.
They just gotta take it.
Same thing with people atWalmart and shit like that.
They just supposed to take it.
And it's like, no, it's cool.
You know?
It's your job.
And it's like, well, that copcouldn't take a nigga being
disrespectful?
You know?

(38:22):
Get over here.
Get over here.
Taste them?
Like, come on, bro.
Come on, dude.
Nah, because it's nasty, bro.
It's nasty.
Oh, shit.
I wanted to ask you, sinceyou're like, where me and you
are talking aboutinfrastructures and, like, how
we're behind.
You see another new proposal?
What's up?
High-speed train from LA to NewYork.

(38:44):
Bro, that's not going through,bro.
I know.
It's not going through, bro.
But it's another new proposalthat they're talking about
again.
Yeah.
72 hours, uh, LA to New Yorkhigh speed train.
So, um, I can keep dreaming,bro.
Yeah, exactly.
It was just probably anotherbill.
It's going to fail and failthrough.
I'm like, It's probably going tobe long and drawn out in

(39:05):
probably about five years.
It'll probably tell us finally.
It's not going to happen.
Again, because, again, there'stoo many other companies who
have a vested interest in makingsure that shit doesn't happen.
Frontier Airlines, AmericanAirlines, Spirit Airlines,
Delta, Southwest, all thosecompanies want to make sure that
you guys have no other choicebut to fly to get from place to

(39:27):
place.
If you're trying to do, youknow...
uh like fucking travelthroughout the united states but
honestly at the same time i idon't know if you saw this i
read an article one time thoughand it was saying how like not
all of them but some of thoseairlines are really just credit
card companies of planes ibelieve it you know what i mean
yeah because most peoplenowadays if you like you like

(39:50):
you kind of pick an airline andAnd next thing you know, you got
an American credit card.
And you're getting frequentflyer points and shit.
Or you got a Delta credit card.
And then it's like everywhereyou go, you want to use it.
Because that's your credit card.
And then you get points on topof that.
And I feel like that's the newgame.
I see people on TikTok,Instagram, like, you know, sign
up for Delta.
I got 120 points.
And it's like, oh, that's thenew game.

(40:12):
The new game is to get me tosign up for the credit card.
So that way I'm so invested ingetting my, my fucking points
and flights.
I got$5,000 credit limit nowwith you.
And that's, and I believe ittoo.
Cause that's how I feel when I,I be seeing motherfuckers on
Instagram, like, damn, how dothese people be taking so many
trips?
Oh, they, they, they usingcredit.
They don't tell you though.
And that's, again, that's, itgoes back to what I was just

(40:34):
saying, bro.
A company like Meta, you know,they have a vested interest in
making sure you're insecure andmaking sure that, you know,
you're seeing other people livesome type of lifestyle, not
knowing they're funding alifestyle on credit.
They're funding on frequentflyer points, bro.
Running it up.
Yeah.
Yeah.
They're making sure, again,making sure that you feel

(40:54):
insecure and that you're behind,you know?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Cause it's like, damn, why am Iseeing this person on a third
trip this year?
You know?
And it's like, I can't evenafford to take a trip somewhere
in California.
Yeah.
New Zealand.
Yeah.
What the fuck?
Yeah.
And it's cause again, like yousaid, bro, these motherfuckers
really, it's really, it's acredit card company.

(41:15):
They racking up that debt,racking it up.
And then, so like, And then inyour mind, you justify it
because you're getting points.
Yeah.
And it's like, that's going topay for my trip to Hawaii.
I'm on my$7,000,$7,000 deep, butI got two feet trips this year.
And it's like, okay, so that'show they get shot.
And now I get the game.
I understand the game now.
Yeah.
But that's why I specificallydon't believe anything like

(41:37):
that's ever going to happen,bro.
Unless they're broken.
Yeah.
Especially high speed rail inCalifornia too.
Just even from like, you know,Southern California to Northern
California.
Yeah.
That doesn't work.
Even think about something likethe fast track, right?
The fast track.
I specifically think about theone on the 91, the express
lanes.
That specifically is dependenton making sure that there's

(42:00):
consistent traffic.
They're dependent on a brokeninfrastructure right now at this
point because somebody's makingmoney.
Somebody is depending on ourfreeways and our highways to
continue to fucking suck becauseit means that they're going to
get more money for theircompany, bro.
And that's who we're battlingwith at this point when we're

(42:21):
trying to it, you know, thesethings that are clearly
beneficial to everybody else,you know?
Because, bro, I fucking hatedriving, bro.
And I'm making it clear that Ido have a bias against driving.
Because not only, bro, it'sexpensive as fuck, right?
But even beyond that, bro, it'sunsafe, dude.
It's unsafe as shit, dude.
And again, there's safer,cheaper alternatives.

(42:42):
Bro, again, fucking high-speedrail or even just, bro, trains
in general.
Fucking monorails.
If we had a better train system,that would be better.
And again, too, think aboutthis, bro.
We keep on talking about thisidea of how are you able to flex
or make people feel insecure.
That's the main reason That'sone of the main reasons why
people do enjoy driving to acertain extent.

(43:04):
Because again, your vehicle thatyou drive is an indicator of
something.
It says to you.
Exactly.
It says something to somebody.
When you see somebody driving aBenz, you think you have an
assumption that you make of themin your mind.
But if we're all on publictransportation, it's harder now
to be able to feel like you'rehigher.

(43:25):
You're the man.
It's harder to feel that you'reabove somebody else.
That's We're all writing thesame thing now.
Again, you have to think aboutIt's going to cause companies to
try to figure out new ways forpeople to have to flex on each
other.
Because now you can't just haveyour car do that.
Yeah.
Go back to wearing suits andties.
Yeah, yeah, exactly.

(43:46):
Now, bro, and it gets nasty.
That's where it gets nasty nowis, again, we can't have nice
things like good infrastructureor buses that we want to use
because, again, it means thatsomebody else isn't going to be
able to flaunt as much.
That's true.
though because again it justpisses me off bro how like dude

(44:11):
I'm a vivid connoisseur ofhistory bro I enjoy learning
about history bro one of thethings that I'm always
interested about the civilrights movement right these
niggas went on a bus boycottthese niggas went on a bus
boycott that implies that niggaswas used everybody was using the

(44:32):
bus Everybody.
And the reason why, again, thinkabout this too.
We don't start seeing more carcentric type of areas until
integration.
And now you're no longer able toflex on somebody in the bus
because before they was able toflex with the white only
section.
That's how, again, you was ableto establish a certain type of
hierarchy that was going onwithin public transportation.

(45:03):
buses was benefiting everyonethe common man yeah and again
people were willing to do itthough because again you were
able to establish you were ableto visually see a hierarchy on
the bus whereas hey certainpeople have to get to the back
and then once that ended andthen once it ends yeah then you
see a bigger push now for foreverybody to have their own car
we see a bigger push on you knowwe're trying to develop suburbs

(45:25):
and stuff like that to where youneed a car now and you can't
depend on busing the bus don'trun that way no more yeah again
and now it went from it wentfrom people were riding the bus
so much to where a boycott wouldaffect businesses to the point
now where we think we see busingas like ghetto now or something.
Where we see taking the bus islike, oh, you're a brokie.

(45:46):
That's like a lower pass.
Yeah, and it's annoying.
It makes me mad that we thinkabout those things like that
sometimes, bro.
That's normal.
Yeah, and the thing is, I evenget caught up thinking like that
sometimes, bro.
Think about what we used to heareverywhere.
at least when i was a kid bro iremember um like driving past
bus stops sometimes with like uhlike i remember we take the boys

(46:08):
and girls club bus to uh to theboys and girls club getting
picked up from school andsometimes at these bus stops you
see a nigga you know at the busstop fresh pair of jordans but
he's taking the bus right andpeople would try to shit on that
like oh he got jordans but hecan't afford a car yeah you know
but when you i remember that butit it i think what what should
have happened you know was yeahhe got jordan's on and he's

(46:29):
saving money yeah but we didn'tlook at it like that you know
what i mean again we looked atit as something that should be
frowned upon you know and that'swhat it just fucking kills me
bro it's true it kills me thatwhen we see people at the bus
stops and stuff like thatthere's a certain image that
pops into your mind there'scertain um and they shouldn't be
Yeah, there's certainassumptions that you make about

(46:50):
people who use publictransportation.
And that's by design, bro.
That's by design.
Bro, we could easily create aworld to where when you think
about taking the bus, you don'tthink about, you know, danger or
dirtiness or anything like that.
You don't got money.
Yeah, when we think about takingthe bus, bro, it should be like
Nigga, I'm doing somethingthat's better for the

(47:11):
environment.
I'm saving money and I'm safernow because driving cars are
dangerous as fuck.
And then, and then what itreally should be, I should be
safer now too because I'm in mycommunity and we should be
protecting each other in ourcommunity but it's not like that
anymore.
Yeah.
You know, so yeah.
Honestly, the bus really shouldbe safe.
Yeah.
Honestly.
We should police each other, butanyway.
Bro, it just fucking kills me,bro.

(47:33):
The community's dead.
They're trying to kill thefamily.
They're trying to killeverything, bro.
Yeah, especially where I live atin Chino, too, bro.
There's like a lot of these busstops, bro.
It's Johnny fucking blazing outhere in Chino, bro.
A lot of these bus stops don'thave any seats.
You know, they don't have anytype of cover, bro.
So niggas are standing at thebus stop in the hot fucking sun.

(47:54):
That's rough.
Frying.
That's rough.
Frying.
And that type of shit fuckingirks me.
That is rough.
And the reason why, again, thereason why that is is because,
again, they're scared homelesspeople might want to post up at
the bus stop.
Instead of just making surehomeless people are good and
making sure they got somewhereto stay.
Let's put some spikes there.
Yeah, let's make sure nobody hasanything good.

(48:14):
Yeah, bro.
Like you said, bro, we bethinking backwards.
Like I said, you're big intotransportation.
Bro, LAX just now finally gotthe Metro to LAX available.
I don't know if you saw thatrecently.
I did.
I did keep that.
LAX has been around for plentyof plenty of years guys they
just not got the metro directlyto lax and think about how bad
they had to let it get broanybody who's ever flown out of

(48:37):
lax they know bro it's a fuckingheadache it is terrible bro it's
awful it is terrible um i got afew uh quick kicks for for you
um did you see the women'sprofessional baseball league
launching next year no yeah umso um Kind of like the WNBA,
obviously.
It'd be the first ever womenprofessional baseball league.

(48:57):
Is baseball or softball?
It's baseball.
MLB is the partner.
So they're throwing overhand?
I think so.
Or maybe it is softball.
I hope it's softball style.
Maybe it is softball.
I feel like, yeah, that's just abetter transition from college
to...
I just saw it was called Women'sProfessional Baseball League, I
think.
So I don't know if they'reactually playing baseball or if
it's more softball.

(49:18):
But I thought they had somecollege athletes and stuff were
lining up.
They're going to have like, youknow...
Bunch of tryouts and stuff.
I did want to ask you, how doyou feel about, like, an actual,
like, I guess, like, a women'sleague for baseball?
Because, you know, most of thetime when those softball players
graduate, it's kind of going tobe the normal lives.
Yeah, they don't have anywhereto go after.
How do you feel, I guess, nowthey have kind of another level
kind of going to beprofessional?

(49:39):
I think...
I got mixed feelings about it,bro, because I do think it's
good, you know, that they shouldhave some type of professional
league, you know, but at thesame time, I'll use the WNBA,
for example.
They do...
there has become like this ideaof, you know, WNBA players
should be getting paid equallyto the NBA.

(50:02):
And I'm not even saying that's,That's right or wrong.
But what I'm saying is it skewsour whole idea of money now at
this point.
Exactly.
Because what I don't like too atthis point, people in the WNBA
frame their paychecks as they'renot getting paid enough.
Exactly.
They're making it seem likethey're poor when in reality,

(50:23):
when you look at some of thesecontracts, they're still making
six figures.
Yeah.
They're making$100K.
Yeah.
And again, that's great.
But what it comes down to isthey're not getting paid the
same way as these NBA players,so they can't stunt on us the
same way these NBA players do.
And that's where my gripe isbecause, again, there's the
framing of it as, you know,we're underpaid.

(50:45):
And when they say underpaid,they're still getting paid six
figures.
They're just not getting paidthat John Morant money.
But that's also their fault forlosing.
I mean, not their fault, but.
We don't tune in.
We as America, we don't tune in.
So it's like, y'all not gettingNBA views, bro.
Yeah, and that's what I'msaying.
Like, I hear a lot of themtalking about, you know, we have

(51:05):
to go and we have to go play inRussia over the summer because
we don't get paid enough.
And it's like, no, you don't getpaid enough to try to live this
lavish lifestyle.
You get paid like the averageAmerican.
And now the way I think about itis WNBA players are getting paid
I feel like maybe they could getpaid a little more possibly.

(51:27):
But again, we're talking aboutseven figures.
No, because some of them getlike 40 grand.
So those people, but they'realso rookies.
They're younger.
Yeah.
And that's what I'm saying, bro.
You get paid the same amount asthe average American, you know?
And again, they're thinkinglike, no, we should, we should
be getting paid as much as theseNBA players.
And my argument is no, these NBAplayers are making too much too.

(51:47):
They're making entirely too muchto the point where we see it.
It's literally ruining theproduct.
It's ruining the product.
It's not even about basketball.
We say it all the time.
It's not about basketball.
The owners are making so muchmoney, they're ruining the game.
Yeah, and that's what it is,too, is people are making too
much all around at this point,bro.
And it's like, again, theseathletes in general, bro,

(52:10):
shouldn't...
I don't agree with thesemotherfuckers getting paid, bro.
There's bench players making$25million for two years.
And when I think about that,bro, that's just a ridiculous
amount of money.
He played 14 minutes a game.
Yeah, he balls.
Yeah, they ball out, bro, andthey're really good at their
craft.
He only played 14 minutes agame, though, bro.
Think about that.

(52:31):
That's crazy.
Yeah, I just don't believethey're not going to sit here
and try to frame this argumentthat, you know, that they're
worth a 10-figure deal to me.
Well, technically they only arebecause niggas buy their jerseys
and, you know.
And that's what I'm saying.
And then maybe when we talkabout things like that, like
same thing with the WNBA.
Yeah, you should receive acertain percentage of money back

(52:52):
based off of like jersey salesand merchandise and stuff like
that.
But from the most part, bro, Idon't like it because, again,
it's the framing.
Yeah, it's the framing thatthese...
WNBA players are underpaid whenin reality you're just making
the amount of money that theregular American's making.
But you want to be able to shiton everybody else by making a,

(53:14):
you know, a seven-figure salarywhen in reality you don't
deserve that.
It's because they don't generateenough revenue, bro.
And again, there's a reason why.
But again, I think there's noproblem.
Honestly, if they weregenerating the revenue, give
them a million bucks.
And even then, too, I think ifyou're able to I think about it

(53:35):
like this.
Professional athletes should beable to make a living wage off
of playing their sport, atleast.
And that's with every job.
Every job deserves a livingwage.
But when we're talking aboutnow, you feel like you deserve
to get paid seven figures,that's where the debate's coming
in now.
That's where the argument'scoming in.
Because again, when I thinkabout it like that, you mean to

(53:57):
tell me I should be going andadvocating for these NBA players
to make seven, eight figures?
and not a teacher.
Yeah.
To me, it feels like you'reforcing people who are fans of
sports to put their energy intothe wrong things at this point,
too.
Yeah.
And what that ultimately causes,too, is it causes a shift.

(54:19):
And, you know, the way...
colleges organize their programsand stuff like that, you know,
and the way they base educationnow, you know, because now it's
all about how can we createathletes to generate revenue
through sports when it's aboutthe education.
The money should be going to theeducators.
And even beyond that with highschool and stuff now too,

(54:41):
because that's what reallymatters as well.
Again, think about how I'll usethis for an example, bro.
There is this one cat.
I'm not going to say his name onthe pod, but who is from Germany
who went to Fullerton High

SPEAKER_03 (54:53):
School.

SPEAKER_02 (54:54):
And I remember I talked to him and I was like,
what's the biggest differencethat you notice between American
schools and German schools?
And he said the biggestdifference is that in America,
sports and schools are the same.
They're the same place.
In Europe, bro, they don't havesports in their schools.
They have club teams.

(55:16):
They have club teams that theypay for you know what i mean so
school's about learning you knowwhat i mean school's about
learning you don't you're notthinking about sports that's
what your fucking club team'sfor bro and think about how that
the the fact that we have sportsand education intertwined what
that does for the educationsystem now yeah you know what i
mean shits on it yeah it doesbro and and again educators are

(55:39):
underpaid and we see bro we seecoaches and taking a lot of the
money you know what I mean andnot to say that these coaches
don't have value in what they'redoing but maybe they again they
should be coaching for a clubteam as opposed to coaching at a
school because think about thistoo these coaches get so much
money now from the school thefact that so now they can't pay

(56:00):
educators so now that they'reusing coaches to play the role
as teachers in school yeah Youknow what I mean?
And that strictly comes from theway you decide to organize your
school.
Yeah, and the way you decide tofund things.
Because honestly, A lot ofschools, like you said, sadly,
the way they're set up is likethey make their money through
sports.
Yeah.

(56:21):
So, yeah, they're not trying toget the academic.
And the way they get donationsand stuff like that from like
alumni and stuff, they'redonating to the sports program.
And they're just putting itright back there.
When it shouldn't be like that.
Yeah.
When again, bro, I'm watching,bro, I'm watching teachers on
TikTok talking about how theyhave to, they're paying for
school supplies for theirstudents.
Insane, bro.
And they're not making sixfigures.

(56:41):
No, bro.
And it goes back to my argument,too, about I'm four.
you know, like a woman's MLB,but I'm very cautious at what
type of conversations that'sgoing to promote, bro.
It seems like they're playing itsmart.
From what I've seen so far,they're going to do, I think the
AA or AAA stadiums.

(57:01):
It seems like they're playing itsmart.
You know how the WNBA kind ofstraight off went into the big
boy arenas?
Yup.
Well, I think they kind ofshould have went into the
college.
They kind of should have playedit safe.
So they're playing it safe.
I think they're going to do likethe AAA, AA.
Kind of the one we went to inRancho.
What was that place we went to?
The fight we went to there?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, so they're going to dothose kind of stadiums.
So a little smaller.
Not the big 40,000 people.

(57:23):
That's a lot of people to fill.
And we don't know if it's a goodproduct yet.
And I think about it like this,too.
I think about...
I think it's crucial if you wantthese types of women's leagues
to pop, you can't make itexactly like the men's league.
Because I feel like one of thethings that the WNBA does that
hurts them so much is they goand they try to play on the same

(57:44):
size hoop as the men.
And that's why, again, the mainthing that draws viewers into
basketball is motherfuckersdunking, bro.
That's a big aspect of it.
that's, again, that's one of thebiggest aspects.
These, bro, these women, thesewomen hoopers, bro, they can
ball, bro.
They can ball and they have ahuge skill set.

(58:05):
But when we're talking about,bro, you don't have, like,
you're not able to dunk, bro.
It's not the same.
It takes, bro, it takes away alot of the type of, like, energy
that comes with the game, bro.
We watch a whole game for justto see a nigga get posterized.
Exactly.
It ain't happened yet.
It's coming, bro.
It's coming.
John don't catch him.
Yeah, and I feel like this ideaof, you know, women need to be

(58:25):
exactly equal as men is wrongbecause, again, all it does is
just hurt the potential of theproduct, bro.
I feel like the WNBA could besuch a better product if they
lowered the hoop one foot.
Bro, but they refuse to.
And let them dunk.
Let them dunk on each other.
They're never going to do it forsome weird reason.
I don't know why.
I don't know why.
Out of this fake sense ofequality.
Yeah.

(58:46):
Because, again, too, we alreadyestablished that, dude, through
science, that by, like...
Through biology, bro, womendon't have the same frame as men
to be able to hold the sameamount of muscle, to be able to
be explosive.
Again, we're never going to seea woman do what LeBron James

(59:06):
does.
This is not going to happen.
We're never going to see a womantake off from the free throw
line.
Unless maybe.
Unless they lower the hoop.
Exactly.
And the thing is, there's noshame in that.
But again, they want to try toframe it.
there's no shame in that brothere's not bro and i feel like
again it would just do it woulddo the sport a lot more justice
bro and that's what it makes methink about too with these uh

(59:28):
with the women's mlb league andyou see i'm not i don't even
want to speak on that too muchbecause i don't even know how
that goes with like the mainthing i want to see as a viewer
when i'm watching the mlb i wantto see home runs and i don't
even know if women are hittingthe same amount of home runs is
men you know what i mean like ifthat's the same i don't know you
know like would they need ashorter field as well because
Cause that's what I also thinkabout to be more entertaining.

(59:51):
I would think you need, I thinkif they're playing softball, not
baseball, probably.
Yeah.
They're actually playingbaseball.
I don't know how that's going togo.
Yeah.
Cause again, I, I highly doubt.
And you know what?
Maybe there's just a place from,of ignorance.
I don't think a woman iscrushing it.
450 feet into the stadium.
Nigga.

(01:00:11):
I'm sorry.
Probably.
I've never seen it.
They'd be doing it in college.
Well, it's actually not collegefield, shorter home.
Yeah.
Those fields are shorter.
It was like 300.
I don't think I'm seeing thatlike.
450, nigga.
Nah, yeah, you're right.

(01:00:31):
Let's keep it real.
And that's what I'm thinkingabout.
If they can't do that, how arewe going to accommodate to still
make it as electric as the men'sleague?
Just good play.
Hopefully, like, you know, justgood field play and good
striking.
Because I'll say it like this,too.
Baseball is already boringenough, though, bro.
And to take away, you know,they're hitting less homers.

(01:00:51):
Again, it's, bro, you're doing adisservice, bro.
Because baseball is boring.
It's boring watching the menplay, bro.
It's boring watching the menplay sometimes.
So when you got people, when yougot women who just aren't as
powerful, you know, as the men,again, like I said, I don't
think that they're crushing thisshit 450 feet.

(01:01:13):
And that's just what I'm worriedabout.
Like, I'm not against women'ssports league at all.
And I definitely believe thatthere should be, and they should
get paid a living wage.
And it's, it's almost like, uh,back to, um, We had the Kevin
Holland discussion on the podbefore, bro.
Kevin Holland broke it down.
He gets paid as much as adoctor.
He enjoys it.

(01:01:34):
To fight.
And again...
That's the type of mindset.
That's what we need to startthinking about when we watch
these professional athletes.
You know what?
We need to stop trying to go andargue about them making seven
figures when in reality, they'remaking as much as a motherfucker
with a PhD, bro.
And they should be happy, bro.
Yeah, you should be fuckinghappy about it.
You can do what you love.
Take the PhD money, nigga.
Stop being...
Do what you love.
Again, because once we startgetting into seven, eight

(01:01:56):
figures, we're talking aboutbiblical level greed at this
point.
Facts.
I'm sorry, bro.
Not everybody deserves to havethe double R, nigga.
Yeah, I'm with you, bro.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
Let's see.
I got some quick hits.
Shannon Sharp fired from ESPN.
We're not going to stay long onthat.
We're not going to stay long onthat.
We're not going to stay long.
You might have to cut me off atsome point.

(01:02:17):
No, we're not going to stay.
You might have to cut me off.
No, we're not.
I'm going to give you about fiveminutes on Shannon.
Because honestly, I'm going tokeep what I got to say simple,
bro.
He should not have been fuckingaround with a 21-year-old,
20-year-old, bro.
Fucking pervert, dude.
Yeah, bro.
Honestly, he on some Drake shittoo, bro.
I hate to say it, honestly.
Yeah.
Bro, when a nigga like LilYachty tells you to your face,
you need to stop messing withyoung girls.

(01:02:39):
That's weird.
Yeah, I fucked with ShannonSharp.
I still watch his show every nowand then.
It's not the same, though.
Only because that nigga was sohorned up over...
20-year-old.
No, that's why I couldn't watchhim and Ocho, bro.
Him and Ocho, they start gettinginto discussions about women,

(01:03:00):
bro, and it just used to begross sometimes, bro.
He don't do that no more.
Yeah, because I was like, nigga,you're fucking 50-something.
I remember one time he saidsomething about Meg Thee
Stallion.
Yeah, dude.
And then he had her on her showlike six months later, and he
had to apologize.
It's just fucking gross, bro,and I feel like it's important
we just start calling that shitout.
It's weird.
Yeah, that's weird, bro.
It's weird, bro.
I don't even know an old mantalking about I'm going to turn

(01:03:22):
her leg clockworks like andthat's what I'm saying too
because when I think about likethat type of shit right there we
know that they're only goingafter these young girls for sex
bro you know what I mean we knowthat's exactly what it's for and
again these young girls are onlywith these guys for one other
reason they don't like theconversation You know what I

(01:03:44):
mean?
They don't really like y'allniggas.
They don't.
So let's just call a spade aspade.
Y'all are in there to getsomething out of it.
Pop the Rose Park.
Exactly, bro.
Do what you do.
She leave us some money.
And that's just my biggest issueright there.
Again, when you break it downlike that, bro...
It's loser behavior, bro.

(01:04:05):
I think the text message gotleaked.
I think she said, what, 25,000to cheat?
Yeah, and that's what I'msaying.
And when I really think aboutthat, bro, that's loser
behavior.
50 grand for some ass is crazy.
It's crazy.
I'll say it like this, too, bro.
We knew cats like that, bro, whoare our age, who don't have
millions of dollars, but theywere willing to pay hundreds of

(01:04:26):
dollars.
They were willing to pay withintheir economic class.
They're going to pay for it.
Yeah, and again, it's lame whenthey do it.
So it's supposed to be coolerbecause Shanna Sharpe's a
millionaire?
Nah, it's even lamer, bro.
Yeah, it's even lamer, bro.
It's even lamer, bro, and itgoes, it just makes me think
about, nigga, the money's notgonna un-lame you, bro.
But some niggas think like that.
It's lame as fuck, and that's,bro, we need to, again, we just

(01:04:48):
need to reshape our mindsets towhen we see that, bro, we need
to recognize, like, hey, bro,these are weirdos, bro.
Bro, we're too old.
Bro, me and you, we in our late20s, and we think it's weird.
Bro, I couldn't imagine talkingto an 18-year-old.
About what?
Nigga, I'm about what exactlywhat are we gonna talk about
exactly you need advice shetalking about you know she

(01:05:10):
talking about streamers aboutwho her favorite streamer is
bruh you need life advice Idon't know what else to give you
besides life advice I don't knowwhat we're going to talk about.
That's why I don't get unk.
Like, bro, go get a family unk.
And he can't.
And he can't, though.
And that's the thing, bro.
And that's, again, which evenleads into this.
It comes back full circle.
He's fucking lame because evenwomen his own age, bro, know

(01:05:34):
better.
They see something lame withinthem.
It's like Drake.
It's like Drake.
I'm always going to shit onDrake, bro.
Again, Drake can't be with awoman his own age, bro.
It's true, though.
Yeah, to a certain extent, hehas to go after these young
girls who are naive, okay, whoneed something.
Money.
Yeah, exactly.
Exactly, because women his ownage are not going to fuck with

(01:05:55):
him, bro.
It never works, bro.
Yeah, they see that, again,these dudes are fucking lame
losers, bro.
Drake then dated some of themost successful, beautiful
women, bro, and not one of themtook Drake serious.
Yeah.
They all started a family withsomebody else.
Yeah, yeah.
And he had to go get, nodisrespect to that woman, but a
little online girl.
Dating a porn star.
Yeah, whatever.
Cam girl, whatever the fuck.

(01:06:16):
And that's still lame.
That's lame because it goesback.
I said it on a podcast.
I said it on wax.
Bro, this generation, bro, thesemotherfuckers and these labels
and everything, they're tryingto make cucking seem cool.
They're trying to make, oh man,my bitch a porn star.
They're trying to make that shitseem cool.
Adam 16.
Yeah, you're a woman does sexwork and you're trying to frame

(01:06:37):
it as that's cool.
you the soft one yeah as oh I'mthe insecure one because you
know I can't handle I can'thandle a woman who can't handle
a little pee in your girl andthat's bro that's part of that's
part of what they're promotingat that oh shit stop bro you
ain't lying though Again, youhave to just start calling that

(01:06:59):
out for what it is.
These motherfuckers are lame,dude.
Nah, they're lame, bro.
They are lame, honestly.
And Shannon Sharp is...
He's on lame behavior, bro.
Especially with those comments,bro, because I've seen somebody
pull up some old tweets orsomething about him saying, you
know, I'm going to make mychildren have to work for the
money.
There's no way I'm giving mychildren just free money, but
you're going to give it to aporn star.
For free.

(01:07:20):
Yeah, you're going to give awaygenerational wealth to a porn
star because you can't stopthinking what's your penis, bro.
He ended up giving her$20million, right?
Yeah,$20 million.
Again, you can't stop thinkingwith your penis to the point to
where you're going to give yourmoney away to...
You're a whore.
You're retired to OnlyFans.
Yeah, exactly.
You're going to give your moneyaway to a whore, but you can't

(01:07:41):
give your money away to thekids, bro.
You know, and that's, bro,that's the problem right there,
too, bro.
All that promotes, too, is thisidea in the black community
that, you know, our childrenhave to get it out the money.
How often have we heard thatfrom celebrities, too?
Oh, Shaq said that same stupidshit.
It's fucking stupid, dude.
It's fucking stupid.
Shaq's like, I'm not trying togive him no job for free.

(01:08:01):
But he's going to give it to thewhores.
Yeah.
He's going to give it to thewhores.
And Shaq gives money to a lot ofwhores, too.
And that's what I'm saying, bro.
Yeah, Shaq gives money to them.
Bro, and that's where I can'trespect it, bro.
You can't give money to yourkids.
They be in the whorehouses withthe OnlyFans girls, with the
porn stars.
And it kills me, bro.
It fucking kills me, bro.
And it's like, but your kidcan't get a$20,000 check to go

(01:08:21):
to school.
You know?
You got to make him work forwhat?
For what?
He got to show you a businessplan.
Yeah, for what?
He ain't asked to be here.
Exactly.
He ain't asked to be here.
You chose to do it because youwere a horny ass nigga.
Exactly.
That's why.
You brought him here because youwere horny, but now you can't
even give him no money andyou're still funding your
horniness, bro.
These niggas is diabolicallyhorny, bro.

(01:08:43):
Couldn't keep the marriagealive.
It's biblical level lust thatwe're seeing right now, bro.
How do these niggas be cheating?
The wife take them back and theystill don't get it.
Bro, that's what I'm saying.
Biblical level lust.
Well, she took you back fourtimes.
And it's just, it's nasty, bro.
nah you ain't lying from themoney to the women it's the lust
is insane bro the lust is insaneuh and i'm off nah yeah honestly

(01:09:07):
bro i'm waiting on the broshannon shannon he's too old for
that bro i mean way too fuckingold dude we're getting too old
man we in the era where it's tooold for me to even feel bad
about it either i don't feel thepoint where it just makes me mad
i'm just like i'm disappointedyeah i'm disappointed bro bro
i'm this 100 million i didn'tforget the deal we had on the
table yeah I'm disappointed inhim, bro, because that's
supposed to be like a blackfigure we're supposed to learn

(01:09:29):
game from.
We learn game from him.
I threw it away.
No, and like, The more I thinkback on it, too, bro, it makes
all his past antics even morenasty.
When I think about him going onTV with the Henny and the Black
and Milds, again, bro, you wasjust shucking and jiving, bro.
He's a character.
Yeah, bro, you was a minstrelcharacter, bro.
Let's be real, bro.

(01:09:50):
Yeah, you was wearing thedo-rags, the Henny.
Fox was giving him a littlechange to play the character.
Yeah, they wanted you to playthe character.
Now you're lost in thatcharacter.
And then he stopped playing thecharacter.
And then he got fired.
And it's just, bro, it's sofucking nasty.
It's kind of still in him,though.
Yeah, it is.
That's who he is.
It's kind of still in him,though.
That's who he is, bruh.
It's kind of still in him.
It's kind of nasty, sadly.

(01:10:12):
Gilbert Arena is arrested.
Man, he ain't do nothing.
He'll keep it pushing off that.
He'll just keep it pushing, bro.
We'll keep it pushing, bro.
We got shit.
UFC.
You're talking about KevinHollins.
I want to talk about UFC righthere.
Yeah, okay.
UFC...
Dustin Poirier and Max Holley,they fought like a month ago.

(01:10:32):
We're late.
But with Dustin retiring, one ofmy favorite fighters, I wanted
to ask you, bro, who's like thebest fighter to never be
Undisputed Champion?
So got like Dustin, got like aChell Sonnen.
Rampage wanted.

(01:10:52):
Rampage wanted.
Yeah.
Fuck.
That's a tough one.
I think of like a...
A Gufferson.
Oh, yeah.
Gufferson, whatever.
Yeah, he has some good awardswith Jon Jones.
Yeah, there's some guys outthere who has some.
It has never got the, never got.
I guess Robert Whitaker won it,actually, huh?
He was on the speed.

(01:11:13):
Yo, Romero.
Yo, Romero.
There's some guys out there whonever was.
That's a good one.
Yeah, you know what I mean?
Yo, Romero, bro.
That has never got over thehump.
That's the dude who's nicknamedSoldier of God, right?

UNKNOWN (01:11:25):
Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (01:11:29):
The Unlimited, the Bulldog right there.
Never been dropped.
That's the Bulldog.
Bro, all you got, all those guysyou just named, bro.
That's like, damn.
Yeah, because Yoel Romero, bro.
I was a boogeyman for a littlebit.
I was a boogeyman for a littlebit, bro.
And he was always just in that,like, top five, bro.

(01:11:49):
Like, again, one of thosegatekeepers.
You got to get past him to getto the champ.
Yeah.
Even, I mean, I don't know ifhe's going to retire.
I mean, but.
At the moment, I put likeDerrick Lewis in there, sadly.
At the moment, I got a guy likePaul Acosta in there.
I don't know if I got Acosta.
Not yet, not yet.
I don't know.
He needs some more wins.

(01:12:10):
Yeah, bro.
That's fair.
Especially, bro, all thecontroversy, him not making
weight all the time.
It has been a lot of nonsense.
It has been a lot of bullshitsometimes, bro.
I don't know if I'm a player.
That's fair.
But yeah, I was thinking aboutit.
I was like, damn, bro.
Dustin never was technically a,he never got to, you know, unify
the belts, but he was a goodfighter though, man.
Great fighter.
Yeah.
I don't know why I'm thinking.
And some of the guys I amthinking about, I'm like, no,

(01:12:31):
they held the belt.
Even if it was just one time,they got it.
I'm thinking about like Cerrone,bro.
He had the belt.
Yeah, he had the belt briefly.
Because I was even going to goto Rashad Evans, but I forgot he
had the belt.
I forgot he beat ForrestGriffin.
He had the belt.
Yeah, I'm so like, he beatForrest Griffin.
Yeah, there's some guys whotouched the belt very quickly.
But they did.
Yeah, they did it though.
So I was like, wait, he did win,huh?
Did Yuri have the belt?

(01:12:53):
At this point, I can't evenremember, bro.
I'm like, did Yuri have thebelt?
Yeah, he did.
He got hurt, remember?
Oh, okay.
It's like Jamal Hill.
It was so fast.
Yeah.
And they both got hurt rightafter.
Yeah, because Yuri might be oneof them guys.
Like, if it wasn't for Perea,bro, Yuri might have had the
belt for a while.
Yeah, I'm with you, bro.
He might have had the belt for awhile.

(01:13:14):
I think not for Perea.
I think Yuri goes on, like, afive fight.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Kind of like what Pantelja'sdoing down there.
Yeah.
Because Yuri, bro, Yuri got adifferent style, bro.
I like Yuri.
Yeah.
Shit, honestly, speaking of Yuriand his fights coming up, well,
this weekend we got the big, bigboy.
We got DDP versus Tom.Kamai.
He's finally back, you know,COVID-free finally.

(01:13:36):
Yeah.
That's going to be a good fight.
Who you got, man?
I got Combo.
South African Prince?
I got Combo.
Oh, my fault.
Don't even talk about it.
Don't even talk about KenoWakanda like that.
Bro, this still makes me so mad,bro.
Oh, my God, bro.
He really choked out Izzy.
I'm so mad.
He choked out Izzy.
He won fair and square, bro.

(01:13:57):
That's why it pisses me off sobad.
He won fair and square.
It pisses me off so bad.
He's so unorthodox.
He's so unorthodox, bro.
because he's crazy tough bro hehad 99 toughness right yeah
honestly 99 toughness and thatstyle really is I understand how
just awkward it is bro I don'tknow how you defend it it's so
odd bro he throws punches fromweird points bro he changed 99

(01:14:18):
toughness bro yeah I guess whenyou yeah I guess he gets hit
when he's getting in there butit's like bro he's going he's
gonna do what he wants yeah I'mwith you though bro I think I
think he gets choked out thisweek yeah because again I think
um bro Hamzat bro He's adifferent animal, bro.
He's just so tenacious, dude.

(01:14:38):
He's so tenacious.
I always know that first round,bro, is...
Bro, I better hope DDP can makeit out the first round, bro.
Exactly.
Because I know DDP can'tout-wrestle him.
If we're being for reals, I feellike...
Hamzat, he's definitely a betterstriker, too, as well.
He's gotten way better atstriking.
He's gotten way better.
I feel like the only way DDPcould win this one, bro, it has

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to be Kamaru Usman's style.
He has to make it third round.
And once you get past thatthird.
Yeah, if he can't get into thechampionship rounds with him,
bro.
He's going to lose.
Yeah, he's going to lose, bro.
Yeah, I'm with New, bro.
We get a new champ this weekend.
Hamzat within first or secondround, if it makes it.
third or beyond bro i got bdpyeah i'm bro i think i got the

(01:15:21):
same thing bro if it goesthrough to beyond bro it's it's
the king of africa again uzmanwas right there bro if it would
have been two more rounds brouzman had it he was tired yeah
but again because thatwrestling's so tenacious though
bro he's so he's so vicious withit seven takedowns and he shoots

(01:15:41):
from fucking bro the other sideof the octagon anywhere bro side
of the octagon i mean i respectit i respect it yeah uh i don't
know what's on that card i suckright now no that card's stacked
bro let me cool it up is thatthe color roundtree card that
card is stacked no colorroundtree is not on that that's
the next one the route roundtreeeerie yeah i think so okay i'm
mixing up my cards 19 i'm mixingoh larone murphy versus uh oh

(01:16:06):
pico i like that fight bro It isa good card.
No, I fuck with Lerone Murphy,bro.
I like Lerone Murphy, bro.
He has potential to be the champat some point.
Is he undefeated?
Yeah, undefeated, bro.
He has a draw.
He's underrated, bro.
He has a draw.
Yeah, I definitely feel like hecould be the champ at some point
in the future, bro.
Not going to go up against him,bro.
Not going to root against him.
Yeah, Pico gets another fight.
That's interesting.

(01:16:26):
And then Prates versus JeffNeal.
I love Jeff Neal.
That's a fighter.
That's a fighter right there.
He's going to come to fight.
I don't know if he's going towin.
He's going to come to fight.
You're going to come to fight,bro.
There's someone else I like onthere, too.
I got Protes, though.
You do?
Yeah, so next one after that isCannoneer versus MVP.
That's what it was.

(01:16:48):
Oh, the gorilla.
uh yeah i don't know man that'sa tough one for me i think i
think mvp's taking it bro i justthink it's too much that that
style is too different it isdifferent you know it is
different but the one thingabout ken near is he got powers
in his hand he does he's slowthough he's yeah he does but mvp
bro he has really uh he's hardto touch bro so hard it's hard
to touch he knows his angles brohe knows he knows what people

(01:17:12):
are gonna try to attack bro andhe like again it's obvious he
leaves that that front leg outso much bro and people can't
take it out though yeah he knowsyou know He knows.
And one thing about him, bro,his distance control is so well.
Yeah, very high fight IQ, bro.
Very high fight IQ.
That's a good fight.
And just, again, he's one ofthem cats.
So I just wish he'd put hishands up a little more.
Yep.
Hate it.

(01:17:33):
No, because honestly, we'regetting close to the point where
it's like, MVP versus Kamzat.
That sounds like a terriblematchup at the moment.
Honestly, he beats Kenanir.
I mean, who is he going to fightnext?
He has some good wins, bro.
Whitaker?
Who do you give him next?
He has some good wins.

(01:17:55):
Whitaker just came off a loss,though.
MVP Paulo?
What do you do if he wins?
I think MVP Whitaker.
Yeah, MVP Whitaker.
I think Whitaker, bro.
Whitaker has very good fight IQ,too.
Yeah, that's true.
It kind of gives Whitaker achance to bounce back, too, if
he wins.
That's true.
And then last one on the maincard, Tim Elliott versus Kai
Asakura.

(01:18:16):
Ooh, the old man.
Yeah.
versus that's the young Japanesekid they signed.
I'm taking the young bull, bro.
I'm taking the young bull.
Even though he lost againstPantoja.
Yeah, that's Pantoja, bro.
Pantoja, he's up there.
He's eventually, bro, a few morefights, Pantoja's in that go
conversation, bro.
He bought two three-way,honestly.
Yeah, bro.
That's a really good card thisweekend, bro.
It's a really good card.

(01:18:36):
That's stacked.
We haven't had a good card likethis in a while because even
they got Bobby Green on theprelims, even though I can't
stand Bobby Green, bro.
I love to watch him fight.
I can't stand Bobby Green, bro.
One thing about him, he don'tget slept.
Are you sleeping with somebody?
Are you sleeping with somebody?
And I love that about him.
I love that about him, bro.
I can't stand Bobby Green, bro.
Oh, man.
Oh, yeah.
And then they even got fuckingBrian Battle in the early

(01:18:57):
prelims, bro.
I fuck with Brian Battle, bro.
That's on the prelims?
Yeah, I like Brian Battle, bro.
I like Brian Battle, too, bro.
Honestly, that's a good card.
Shit, honestly, that's a reallygood card.
Shout out to UFC, bro.
I mean, now that we're here,too, though.
uh ufc did sign a new deal uhfor 7.7 billion dollars for
seven years with a paramountplus uh kind of you know ending

(01:19:19):
the whole pay-per-view model isover after you know 25 plus
years pay-per-views Good.
Hip reviews is over.
Newman, how do you feel assomeone who spent that$80 a few
times?
I'm glad it's done with, bro.
I'm glad it's done with, but atthe same time, I feel like we're
opening up a whole new can ofworms that we're not willing to
deal with.
Yeah, because they're going toraise that price to$29.99

(01:19:39):
eventually.
I feel like it's even going tobe more than that.
Eventually.
I feel like they're going to beon the same bullshit as NFL.
If you want one of those NFLpackages on one of these
streaming services, bro, thatshit's expensive, dog.
$40 a month?
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah,$40 a month.
And again, you're already seeingthe quality of cards that they
have for the UFC.
It's like hit or miss, bro.

(01:20:00):
You get one or two good cardsand then followed by fucking
three or four throwaways, bro.
Yeah, and that's why I'm kind ofinterested.
They promise, now they'recalling them marquee events.
So the 13 marquee events and 30fight nights.
It's interesting to see how thatplays out next year.
But yeah, I mean, I guess theone good thing sometimes is shit
would be like straight up on CBSso like you just wake up if you

(01:20:23):
got you know cable whatever youput on CBS like normal kind of
like watching like a footballgame I think that'd be kind of
cool yeah I think it would havebeen better bro I don't know how
I feel about the monthly likethe monthly subscription because
again I feel like it's going tocost an arm and a leg you think
they're going to raise you uplike that yeah bro because I
wouldn't be surprised if theytry to do it like NFL type of

(01:20:44):
shit with the like Sunday ticketbro and all that shit bro that
shit's expensive as fuck dude orlike League Pass and all that,
bro.
And I wouldn't be surprised ifthey try to frame it like that,
dude.
Yeah, in my mind, bro, I feltlike they would have been better
off making just$20pay-per-views, bro.
They would have just sold waymore.
I think they're going for eyes,though.

(01:21:07):
Because they said some of thoseevents are going to be free on
CBS.
I think they're going for eyesnow.
Okay.
I mean, we'll see, bro.
I mean, if what I'm assuming isgoing to be like the NBA model,
the more eyes you have, bro, themore merch you can buy, the more
events get sold out, the moreevents you can have.
So maybe it's what they're goingfor.
I don't know.

(01:21:28):
It works for the NBA, but theNBA is also the NBA.
NFL is the NFL.
But that's what I think they'retrying to get to that big boy
step.
I mean, again, they've alreadyruined it with the...
I'm not going to say ruined it,but they're already doing their
own fucking thing with themarketing and everything.
They don't let fighters markettheir own fucking brand.
Yeah, they do kind of alreadytaint it.
Again, at that point, theyshould have been had like the

(01:21:50):
fights more just affordable,bro.
Yeah, facts.
You know?
Yeah, it's true.
Doing all this bullshit withbrands that nobody gives a fuck.
Venom.
Who cares about fucking Reebok,dude?
Reebok is...
dumb as shit dude i don't knowanybody who even cares about
reebok outside of they'refinally at the end of that deal
going back to venom finally yeahor are they still working with
the rock too yeah they areworking and that's stupid as

(01:22:12):
fuck too bro that's stupid asfuck yeah honestly i think i
think letting fighters not workwith their own brands is stupid
all right let's be real bro imean they're not gonna do it but
i think like not working withtheir brand like adidas nikes
keep it real bro not workingwith the big dogs it's hurting
it's hurting the brand yeahlet's keep it real fighters bro
i really just missed the oldschool days bro where you just
let the fighters had their ownshorts.

(01:22:32):
John Jones with that Nike symbolon his shorts.
No, that's what I'm saying, bro.
Those were the days.
Those were the good days, bro.
Yo, I got Newman said, I keepseeing Dana in the new, because
Paramount did just merge withSkydance.
So the new CFO was saying howlike, they want to, you know,
acquire new content andsupposedly, you know, they want

(01:22:54):
people to just come to theirplace, not just for like shows.
So we'll see if they keep this.
I mean, I think it's$7.99 rightnow with ads.
I don't think it's going to be$7.99 with ads.
I'm not believing.
When January 1st comes, butwe'll see.
I'm not believing it, bro.
Because all these, bro, allthese apps, bro, have been
raising their prices justslowly, bro.

(01:23:14):
And the thing is, they're notgoing to get me, bro.
At this point, bro, it's gottento the point where I don't care
if you raise it one fuckingdollar, bro.
I'm out of here.
I'm out of here, dude.
You gotta come to the streamside, bro.
You gotta come to the streamside.
Yeah, I need to get the box,bro.
Yeah, I come to the stream side.
At this point, bro, I only payfor like two subscriptions now.

(01:23:35):
And I want to say it's what,like HBO?
and then maybe peacock i want tosay i got like free peacock but
they're talking about like theytry to package raising the
prices on peacock too and i'mlike dude i'm not fucking doing
that yeah they are i'm not doingthat bullshit like honestly
again i'll just find somethingelse to watch i just went to the

(01:23:55):
box i was like bro honestly whyi was like it's on the box
what's the point because againthere's no shows out right now
that i really have me likepumped up to watch bro the only
shows i really was fucking withthat like that I would tune in
on a weekly basis to, bro, wasFrom and Severance, bro.
I can't lie.
All the shows I was tuning infucking with was on Paramount+.

(01:24:16):
And you see, if that's what itwas, bro, if I did have a bunch
of shows on one app, then yeah,I probably would purchase it.
And that's why I'm not mad aboutthe UFC merger.
Because for me, I was fuckingwith Tulsa King.
I was fucking with the...
What was my girl?
Lioness.
I was fucking with Lioness.

(01:24:38):
And then I was fucking withTracker.
Honestly, I like Tulsa King,bro.
Tulsa King was good.
Yeah, Tulsa King.
I mean, it's cool to seeSylvester, like, a second win,
bro.
Yeah.
It was sad to see Bruce Willisgo out with all-timers.
Like, you know what I mean?
He can't act no more.
It's tough to see someone likethe OGs go out like that.
But to see Sylvester still therewith the gray hair.

(01:24:58):
Yeah.
Still kicking it.
Like, okay, that's Rambo, nigga.
Like, nigga, that's Rocky.
Still kicking it.
Like, that was cool, man.
It was.
They see Bruce Willis allshriveled up, man.
Can't speak no more.
And everyone in the family postsa picture.
It's like, damn, man.
That was the man, bro.
Talk about an action hero in the80s.
Yeah, bro.
That was an action hero.

(01:25:19):
So it's cool to see the old catsevery now and then.
But yeah, man.
Honestly, me personally, I dolike Paramount+.
But I'm with Newman.
It's going to be$25.99 by thetime.
And I'm not paying that, bro.
I'm not.
I'm sorry.
But we'll see.
Hopefully not, bro, because theykeep trying to say no.

(01:25:39):
They're going to keep it thesame.
It's about eyeballs, so we'llsee.
It's way too many things I gotto pay for, bro.
Facts.
Oh, shit.
I got to go soon.
You see Instagram updated?
Locations are going to be soonnow?
Yeah.
Turn that shit off?
Yeah, bro.
Who's using that, bro?

(01:26:01):
Yeah, Snapchat did that fuckingthing.
10, 15 years ago.
Yep.
Yep.
Oh, I wanted to ask you, I mean,me and you are both taken, so we
didn't got to worry aboutnonsense like this, but you see
that dating app, the T databreach, the dating app where the
T was for women to go in thereand talk about men, how they
suck, blah, blah, blah.
Yeah.
You seen that stupid app?

(01:26:22):
I heard about the app.
Do you see it backfired on them?
What happened?
It was a data breach.
So, like, all of, like, thewomen's, like, driver's license
and, like, social securitynumber was, like, on the
internet.
Ah.
A lot of girls was going onthere and just, like, being
dickheads.
Like, they wasn't even giving,like, real reviews.
They're like, oh, his breathstinks.
So, you know what I mean?
They're just being dickheads.

(01:26:42):
Yeah, bro.
Girls going there is beingassholes.
Breath stinks.
So, you was kissing him?
You was kissing him?
Yeah.
Girls don't go on as beingassholes, but I thought that was
funny to see it backfire.
Y'all thought y'all was going togo rag on men for no reason that
y'all dated in the past.
And look at the data breach.
I had to get off the...
Even before I was in arelationship, bro, I got off the

(01:27:04):
dating apps a while ago, bro,because it was just some money
grab.
Facts.
Some money grab.
They want the men to pay for thepremium, bro.
And then on top of that, a lotof girls was just there for the
attention, bro, is really just,you know, Helping them get their
thrills.
Or they got cash up in theirbio.
Exactly.
Exactly.
They getting taken on a freedate.
Yeah.
For a lot of people.
And it's just, you know, it justwasn't for me, bro.

(01:27:26):
Yeah.
It just wasn't for me.
And it goes back to the thing.
I even want to tie it back intolike Shannon Sharp, for example.
Oh, yeah.
I felt like that type of stuffwas really promoting the type of
culture of paying people.
For the poom poom.
Yeah.
Again, like you said, with thecash apps and the bios, again,
it really was pushing thisexpectation of men having to

(01:27:48):
spend money, you know.
If you want to spend money ingeneral.
Yeah.
Even for a good date.
Yeah.
That definitely was the vibe.
And again, that's what I didn't.
One of the reasons why I got offof that was that's what I felt
like I was competing with.
on, on the dating apps, bro.
Cause again, you're true.

(01:28:09):
I know I'm cooler than a lot ofthese, these niggas in real
life.
But you got these niggas they'releading with their money on the
app.
I can't, I can't deal with that.
You know, so it was one of thosethings to where it's like,
there's no reason that, youknow, I'm getting put into this
category.
That's what I also felt too.
Like when you even match with agirl, they were already, they've

(01:28:30):
met so many dudes who was justtrying to throw money at them,
this and that, that you have,that's an obstacle that you had
to overcome in chit chattingwith girls.
Like, Hey, I'm here for theright reasons, this and that.
Because again, the market isjust so saturated with dudes
just trying to money.
Yeah.
Dude's trying to flaunt cars,trying to, you know, pay, pay
for the women, you know, niggaslying about they height too.

(01:28:52):
Our niggas pull up with theeights.
So I'll roll a blunt for you.
And that's what it was.
It was really, yeah, it wasreally, again, it was a lot of
niggas out there tricking off onwomen, bro.
And again, I didn't even likebeing, you know, thought of as
being in that category, bro.
I had too much pride.
No, I'm with you, bro.
Too much pride.
I'm not tricking off on y'all,bro.
I'm with you, bro.
On the project, man, it'sepisode 71, bro.

(01:29:14):
We back.
Yes, sir.
Honestly, we got some content onYouTube.
We got Coach Newman.
Newman's been training me forthe past month.
So by the time y'all hear this,y'all can go check out our
YouTube.
It should be a video out.
Shit, top in with Coach Newman.
What's your Instagram, bro?
Hey, Coach Newman Muay Thai.
Yeah, bro, Coach Newman MuayThai.
Bro, he's been getting me right,man.
I've been feeling good, so.

(01:29:35):
Ain't that shit, like,exhilarating, bro?
You do that shit?
Bro, it feels good, bro.
Again, it's just, all it takesone training session, nigga, you
immediately feel like you canwhoop somebody's ass, bro.
But honestly, even, like, evendeeper than that, bro, you just
feel good, bro.
Yeah, you do.
I just feel, I just...
i think i missed one i missedone i may only do this one one
time a week right now but imissed one week and i was i just
didn't feel good i was like i'mnot learning this week it just
doesn't feel good like becausebro honestly kind of like

(01:29:58):
becomes like i'm really tryingto learn this martial art yeah
yeah it really taps into likethat deep like warrior spirit
yeah oh man oh man havesomething like that bro that
just warrior man inside of youbro it's like You know, it just
taps into that, bro.
It's like, bro, I don't know.
Oh, shit, I'm already getting acramp already.

(01:30:18):
But it's like, nah, because it'sreal though.
It's like, I don't know what Icould do yet.
Like, you know what I mean?
You know, you've been playingbasketball your whole life.
So I was like, nigga, I know Ican't shoot.
I know I need to drive to therim.
But I was like, nigga, this is awhole new sport.
Like, it's amazing.
But like I said, bro, y'all tapin with us, bro.
Unapologetic.
Episode 71, bro.
Newman and Deez.

(01:30:38):
Deez and Newman, man.
Check us out on YouTube,Spotify, Instagram, TikTok, bro.
We got a special guest thisweek, a future pop star, you
know what I mean?
Check out the OC with theschool, with the kid, bro.
Good kid.
So we'll get that tap in.
What you got for the people new?
Man, you pretty much saideverything, man.
Make sure you follow us on allour social platforms, bro.

(01:30:58):
Tell your friends, tell yourfamily, you know, tell your
coworkers, you know, the one andonly Unapologetic, bro.
Best podcast on OC, bro.
Don't forget it, bro.
The original.
Facts.
You know, stay safe.
Stay hydrated.
Free Palestine.
Fuck ICE.

SPEAKER_03 (01:31:16):
That's it, bro.

(01:31:46):
We out.
That's it.
feet

SPEAKER_02 (01:31:55):
to the

SPEAKER_03 (01:31:56):
counter.

SPEAKER_02 (01:31:58):
So I supplied a tree that whole like Henry Hill got a
mix in this different powder Igotta go home.

(01:32:18):
My baby mama making thembananas.
I'm blessing tables

SPEAKER_00 (01:32:23):
and

SPEAKER_02 (01:32:23):
saying

SPEAKER_00 (01:32:24):
grace.
Smacked him in Miami.
His boys jumped me.
He played it safe.
Pips and

SPEAKER_02 (01:32:27):
Buffalo did the same thing.
They was throwing plates.
Left away on his good foot.
But he ain't bust a grape.
These niggas fake.
Still docking and still poppingit.
Fuck the certified crack babies.
Come get your mama.

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