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Elle (00:04):
Welcome back to
Unapologetic Swingers.
I'm L
Tramp (00:07):
and I'm The Tramp.
And I'm Jay.
Elle (00:11):
Yay.
Welcome back.
Jay.
We've missed you.
Tramp (00:13):
Thank
Jay (00:14):
you guys.
Tramp (00:14):
Good
Jay (00:14):
to
Tramp (00:15):
be back.
Good.
So just like I say every singleepisode, we're just so thankful
that you guys continue to listento our annex as we explore the
lifestyle and interview, quitefrankly, some pretty awesome
people along the way.
Elle (00:29):
I've really been enjoying
getting to know these people.
Some people I knew, some peopleI don't and exactly get to know.
Everybody has such a greatstory.
Jay (00:36):
We're starting to meet fans
out in the world.
Elle (00:38):
Yeah.
How about that?
Tramp (00:41):
That has been something
that's been new personally, at
least, yeah, as of late.
But just to bring it fullcircle, thank you and welcome to
this journey as we explore thelifestyle, the highs and lows
and everything in between.
Elle (00:57):
Yep.
The good, the bad, the ugly.
Tramp (00:59):
Sometimes very ugly.
Elle (01:01):
Sometimes very good.
Not, not
Tramp (01:02):
today.
Elle (01:03):
Not today.
No.
Tramp (01:04):
So today folks, we are
just coming off of Halloween,
which for most of the lifestyleworld is what you'd consider a
high holiday, kind of a highholiday basically.
Yeah, high holiday.
That New Year's.
Mm-hmm.
Of course we were at home andour home being the Scarlet Ranch
(01:24):
here in Colorado.
Elle (01:25):
Mm-hmm.
Tramp (01:26):
And we have quite a few
adventures from that weekend
Jay (01:30):
that we do.
It was a stellar year.
Three years ago, the ranch gothit with a snow storm on
Halloween, over 2000 people, andthey were all indoors and it was
elbow to elbow.
But this year, the weather, godsagreed it was a 70 degree day
here in Denver and perfectnight, and a third of the people
in attendance over 2200 wereoutside for most of the night,
Elle (01:54):
but.
Before we talk about Halloween,we should talk about Friday
night.
Jay (02:00):
Yeah, the pre
Tramp (02:01):
Halloween party.
Jay (02:01):
The
Elle (02:01):
pre Halloween party,
Tramp (02:03):
that was quite an
evening.
So anytime there are events,there are smaller events around
the main event, if you will.
And we were lucky enough to beinvited to a house party on
Friday evening.
Indeed, we were some fantasticfriends of ours.
Elle (02:21):
They had some friends in
from outta town from Dallas and
wanted us all to meet them andgot a wonderful group of people
together, and it was probablymaybe 25, 30 people.
Jay (02:33):
What was great is that they
didn't even blink when we asked
if we could bring tramp with us.
They didn't even hesitate,
Elle (02:38):
you know?
Oh.
I think they were excited tobring.
For us to bring tramp.
Tramp (02:42):
You know, that could be a
pro tip for some of the
hopefully successful singlegentleman that listen is in the
lifestyle.
It's all about the networkingand Having that.
Reputation as being, not onlyfun to talk to, but respectful.
Elle (03:00):
Mm-hmm.
Tramp (03:01):
You make friends with
couples and they're gonna invite
you to their own parties.
Elle (03:06):
Yes.
Tramp (03:06):
And by the same token,
they're going to introduce you
to other people,
Elle (03:11):
other couples, other
single women.
Tramp (03:13):
Precisely.
Elle (03:14):
And you weren't the only
single gentleman there.
No, I was not our good friend.
Sly Ingleton was also there forthe exact same reason.
Mm-hmm.
You know, good solid single menthat add to the party.
Jay (03:28):
Yeah.
And of course we were all there.
Great spread.
They have a beautiful house.
Elle (03:33):
Mm-hmm.
Jay (03:33):
Really is big playroom
downstairs, we'll mention later.
And then our friend from out oftown who, if you listen to the
previous episode, Cece CE
Elle (03:43):
came.
She came right from the airport.
Jay (03:44):
Right from the airport.
I saw her coming up the walk,opened the door, grabbed her big
heavy suitcase and party was onfor her.
Elle (03:51):
Yeah.
And she was a welcome additionas well.
'cause it was funny to seealmost like little moths to the
flame.
The other ladies kind ofscooting around here.
I was gonna take her around andto introduce her, and then I got
caught up with somebody and shewas not a problem.
Tramp (04:07):
She's a rock star.
Well, I was gonna say, let's behonest, she is gorgeous.
She's
Elle (04:12):
stunning.
And just has such a great energyabout her, really easy for her
to feel welcome and to just makefriends right off the bat.
Jay (04:21):
Wonderful sense of self.
Elle (04:23):
Yes.
Jay (04:24):
You know, she's fit.
She's pretty, she's smart.
She's experienced.
She ist a wallflower.
No, she doesn't need to be.
No,
Tramp (04:32):
I don't think the.
Other attendees of the partywould've let her be a wallflower
even if she tried.
Oh God, no.
Don't think so.
Elle (04:39):
No, she was good.
Yes.
I felt bad'cause I didn't get towalk her around.
And then I looked at, I'm like,oh look, five people surrounding
her talking to her.
I think she's good.
So that made me feel better.
Jay (04:49):
Well, and you two clicked.
We did Really happy to see thatand we'll get into more of that
later.
But you two really clicked rightfrom the start.
Tramp (04:57):
We did, and I'll be
honest, I was a little
intimidated.
A lot of it was, she was kind ofthe shiny penny.
Yes.
You know, very, very gorgeous.
And people just as you said,Jay, people gravitated toward
her.
Yeah.
And so I, introduced myself andwe spoke for a moment, but I
(05:18):
didn't wanna monopolize her time
Elle (05:20):
Well, because you're a
kind person like that.
Tramp (05:24):
Believe me, I would have,
but I, I don't think tramp has
ever used the phrase.
How you doing?
Yeah,
Elle (05:30):
no, please.
Jay (05:35):
But the party was great.
At one point the out of townguest who's been there many
times said, oh, you guys haven'tseen the playroom.
And so he escorted the two of usdown there.
Big, big space.
Big sectional couch.
They've got a big round bed.
Everything covered in like, fauxfur.
Elle (05:53):
Yeah.
Apparently once their boys leftfor college, they converted it
right away into a fun littleplayroom.
Yeah.
Jay (05:59):
Sex chair, swing.
I mean, if everybody at theparty was down there playing, it
wasn't gonna be crowded.
Yeah.
It really wasn't.
And the three of us, one thingled to another, started with
kissing, and she's kissing himand I'm kissing the back of her
neck and.
Next thing you know, she's onher knees.
And we weren't gonna go anywherefor a while.
Elle (06:20):
No, we noticed you were
gone for like an hour.
Tramp and I are looking at eachother going, oh, did
Jay (06:24):
not seem
Tramp (06:25):
that long.
It
Jay (06:26):
really
Elle (06:27):
did not.
Maybe.
Maybe we should check on'em.
See how they're doing
Tramp (06:29):
Jay, the old adage, just
true.
Time flies when you're havingfun.
Oh, she
Jay (06:34):
is amazing.
Just such sexuality, sensuality.
I mean, just a wonderful, andthen.
We're really getting to it, andyou two come bopping down and
it's like, oh, so here's whereyou are.
Elle (06:46):
Yes.
Tramp (06:48):
It's funny with any kind
of lifestyle gathering, whether
it's a house party or sometimeseven a larger scale, like a
takeover of, and things of thatnature, sometimes play happens
organically.
And then sometimes it justdoesn't materialize.
And it's no fault of anyone.
Elle (07:08):
No.
We had asked the, our partyhost, was this supposed to be a
play party?
And, and his response every timewas, if it happens, it happens,
it'll go organically.
And we're like, okay, well wecan respect that.
Jay (07:21):
Yeah.
Not a party Where at 10 o'clock.
Okay.
Girls all change into lingerie,right?
Or, okay, everybody get naked.
It was.
We came from upstairs and someguests had already left.
Elle (07:32):
Mm-hmm.
Jay (07:33):
Bunch of people were in the
hot tub and just very content
not playing, just chilling andrelaxing.
Yeah.
And we had such a great vibefrom the four of us.
I apologize that I didn't saygoodnight to our host and
hostess.
Elle (07:45):
You do an Irish goodbye.
Jay (07:47):
I may have.
Did you?
Elle (07:49):
No, I said goodbye.
Jay (07:51):
Okay.
So I'm the bad guy here.
I'm not sure how I feel aboutthat.
But then we came back home.
Elle (07:57):
Yeah.
The four of us.
Jay (07:58):
Mm-hmm.
Elle (08:00):
And we played for a good
couple hours.
Tramp (08:03):
We did.
And it was pretty, I have to befrank, it was pretty amazing.
Elle (08:08):
A little bit steamy.
Jay (08:10):
The four of us on the bed,
everybody just going at it.
The ladies, so like each other.
Yeah.
And that's always so hot.
And both ladies like having theattentions of two men at the
same time?
Yes.
Yeah, it got, it got reallysteamy and lasted quite a while.
Elle (08:26):
Yeah, I'd say it was
probably about one o'clock.
I mean, I was already startingto think that I needed to get
some rest for the next night,you know?
Yeah.
Tramp (08:38):
Because the next night
was
Jay (08:40):
the night, the big night.
The night, the big night.
Yes.
Yes, the big night.
And of course, these two, cece'sstaying in our guest room and
these two are wandering off,naked up.
Well, we're just gonna go cuddlefor a little while, and we get
ready for bed and we're underthe covers and all of a sudden
we hear the I'm like, that'snot, that doesn't sound like
cuddling in there.
Tramp (08:57):
I believe.
I said, I thought you guys weregoing to sleep.
That was the nice response.
That was the retort.
Yes, it was.
But that I have to say was quitefrankly, an amazing start to
that weekend.
Elle (09:14):
Yeah.
With a bang, with a bang.
Couple of bangs.
Don't you just roll your eyes atme, Jay.
Jay (09:21):
There's no proof of that.
And then of course the ladies,did their podcast.
Elle (09:27):
Yeah.
So Cece got up and we had alittle breakfast and she was
ready to go.
I, unfortunately, when I don'thave tramp here to keep control
of things, I don't do the bestjob of recording.
I was so focused on just makingsure I hit the record button
this time.
And so I apologize, my speakerwas a little wonky.
(09:52):
Throughout.
So listen to the message, nothow it's kicked out there.
Jay (09:57):
But it was hard to hear you
sometimes.
Elle (09:59):
Yeah, I know.
Jay (10:00):
But then Cece gets up and
boom, it's such a beautiful day.
She goes out and runs, what,eight miles?
Elle (10:06):
Yeah.
She went and ran eight miles.
Jay (10:07):
Yeah,
Elle (10:08):
we did not.
Jay (10:09):
We do.
I I haven't run eight milessince the Marine Corps.
Thanks.
I'm good with that.
But then we had to get ready forthe party
Tramp (10:18):
We did.
The ranch is pretty amazing.
They have this area out front asI learned this year, this is the
first year I've witnessed itcall.
They call the corral.
Elle (10:27):
Mm-hmm.
Tramp (10:29):
And it's typically an
extra parking area or sometimes
people who are traveling, saywith an RV or a camper for
example, that's where they letthem park.
But.
We went and got pre-checked infor the evening, got our
wristbands, and tried to beatthe rush because, and this is
(10:49):
true for I'm sure any lifestyleclub on Halloween evening.
The lines are insane with.
Not only dirty vanillas who arelike, Hey, let's go check out
this sexy place we heard about.
Elle (11:02):
Mm-hmm.
Tramp (11:03):
Where they have to fill
out all the paperwork and pay
their entry fees and membershipfees, et cetera, et cetera.
So that was really cool.
Where you had a whole group of,I'm assuming pre partying.
Yeah.
They, they were basicallytailgating.
Tailgating, yeah.
Elle (11:16):
Tailgating for the big
Halloween party.
Yeah.
People are
Jay (11:19):
walking around naked,
they're just, they're grilling,
they're sharing food, they'redrinking.
This started at.
Two o'clock.
Elle (11:26):
Yeah, it was like about
two, two or three and a good
solid four hours before theranch opened up.
But it's a good place foreverybody to just sort of, you
know, start getting mm-hmm.
Their party going.
Mm-hmm.
Tramp (11:39):
Well, it's that, and I
think it's just almost like a
Sunday fun day.
It's just as much of a socialYes.
Atmosphere.
A hundred percent.
People are talking and carryingon, whereas later on the evening
between the music and all thepeople.
Yeah.
It's hard.
The, the chances of you having ameaningful conversation lessen
quite a bit.
Elle (11:58):
This is true.
Yes, this is true.
Jay (12:00):
I'll agree with that.
Elle (12:01):
Mm-hmm.
Jay (12:02):
And then back at the house,
girls doing their hair and their
makeup.
Yep.
And getting all sexy.
Elle (12:08):
Yeah.
Well, it takes work.
Jay (12:10):
Not that much work,
Elle (12:11):
baby.
But I know Tramp had his ownoptions for costumes, but he
came over and dug through ourtotes of many totes of costumes
and found himself kind of a sexylittle toga.
Jay (12:26):
Yep.
Tramp (12:26):
That's what I decided
Jay (12:27):
to pretty thin, pretty
short, not a lot of material on
his six foot three muscularframe.
That's right.
Looked awesome.
And Oh, thank you.
It was kind of a pre thing welike to do.
We, we popped the little bluepill just to get the blood going
and of course it made him quitenoticeable.
About an hour and a half later,Uhhuh, he was very pop.
(12:48):
Not just
Elle (12:48):
the flush on the face.
Oh no.
Jay (12:50):
We're standing at one of
the high top tables and a young
lady comes over and she justlike, runs her hand down, his
chest looks down.
Oh my boom.
Hand's right there and trampslooking at me.
What's the girl to do?
Yeah.
And tramps looking at me like.
It's good to be the king,
Tramp (13:08):
You're right, Jay, we got
ourselves all gussied up and,
headed over there.
Did you say gussied up?
Well US guys got all cleaned up.
Okay.
And the girls got all beautifiedand there you go.
We go ahead and head over to theranch and we get there fairly
early.
I wanna, we get there early, saysix ish.
Elle (13:28):
Yeah.
We tend to on the high holidays,we'll get there a little after
six when they open.
Only because by about eight ornine o'clock those floors gonna
be packed.
And I don't think we've stayedmuch past 10 o'clock previously.
Jay (13:42):
Well, it was so crowded
Elle (13:43):
because it's so crowded.
Yeah.
But now, like you had saidearlier, a third of the people
were out back and.
Mulling around and the weatherwas so nice.
I mean, I can't believe theColorado weather Gods granted
us.
Jay (13:55):
Almost everybody dressed
Yes.
Of the 2200 guests.
Elle (14:00):
Yeah.
Jay (14:00):
Yeah.
Some amazing costumes.
Elle (14:02):
Oh yeah.
They have a costume contest andI think it was a tight one
between the leg lamp and thebunny costume from a Christmas
story to the mermaid.
Who was wheeled in on her ownnet with a giant
Jay (14:22):
hook through her chest,
giant
Elle (14:24):
hook through her chest.
I mean, that takes commitment.
Jay (14:26):
And he's the, the
Gloucester fisherman.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And I think they did win.
They did win.
Yeah.
That was,
Elle (14:32):
there was some, there was
some really, really good
costumes for sure.
Jay (14:35):
And sexy.
Oh my gosh.
Elle (14:37):
Mm-hmm.
Tramp (14:37):
I would almost venture to
say that in terms of Halloween
costumes and lifestyle.
Less is always more.
Jay (14:45):
Oh
Tramp (14:45):
yeah.
And we Oh, especially
Elle (14:47):
when it's gonna be so many
people and it's so hot in there,
so
Tramp (14:49):
many people and not
wearing a bulky costume where
you're trying to shimmy througha sea of people.
Yeah.
Any guy
Jay (14:56):
who's in a furry kind of
costume or a zip up teddy bear,
whatever he is, like, dude, I'mdying.
Yeah.
You know, we use it to pre tryour cruise customs.
Right,
Elle (15:08):
right.
So, so we're heading off to theBliss cruise this week, and so
it's like, which of our blisscostumes are we going to try
out?
So this year Jay and I did the Iwas a sexy cop and you were
pretty sexy prisoner.
Jay (15:24):
Okay.
Yes.
You want to explain,
Elle (15:27):
well, yours or yours,
your, it was like a little
barely there, singlet.
Of black and white stripes andyou had a chain around your neck
that had chains to your wrist.
So my handcuffs, thank you.
Handcuffs,
Jay (15:43):
yes.
And she was in thigh hide black,shiny boots.
Yes.
Basically almost a bikinibottom.
More than a uniform with a nicebelt.
A tiny, tiny little blue cop topin her hat.
Elle (15:58):
Breasts.
Jay (15:58):
Yes.
Your, your boobs were out,falling out of them.
Yes.
Your boobs were out there forall to see.
And we are grateful.
We are grateful.
And well, Cece, she wore a kindof skeleton dress.
Mm-hmm.
You know, just a little blackdress.
I mean, she's got such a hotbod.
And then at one point on thedance floor, I think tramp and I
convinced her's like.
(16:18):
You're done with that dress andjust peeled it up an off her and
she was just wearing littlecrisscross not even thick,
really.
Elle (16:27):
Nothing really covered
anything.
So it was like just crisscross.
It was,
Tramp (16:32):
it was almost like a.
Like a cage bra, but the entireoutfit.
And I, you know, I think it hadsparkly rhinestones.
Yes.
It was incredibly sexy.
It was that and the lighted buttplug.
Elle (16:46):
Oh yeah.
That she wore all night long.
Jay (16:49):
All night long.
God bless her.
That was great, but it got fun.
I gotta tell you.
It even with everybody outsideand on the dance floor and
everywhere else downstairs, wehad a blast.
Elle (17:00):
Well, we wound up going
downstairs, all of us, and
playing a little orally on theFoursquare before things got too
rambunctious.
Upstairs is true, was fun.
Tramp (17:09):
That was earlier on in
the evening before it got too
crazy.
Really good friends of
Jay (17:15):
ours that we helped put
together.
Elle (17:17):
Mm-hmm.
Jay (17:19):
Won't give their names, but
they were on a four square, saw
me, wave me over.
We're kind of regular playpartners when it comes to Sunday
Fun day.
And then you two were over therewith who are you playing with?
Elle (17:30):
Well, it was you and Cece.
Oh, that's right.
Tramp.
Yeah.
And then I just sort of jumpedin.
That's right.
Duh.
At some point there.
Okay.
So then others kind of came andjumped in as well?
Yeah.
You're so naughty.
I, I should give more details,but it was, it was just a
Tramp (17:50):
fun kind of free flowing,
Elle (17:53):
oral event.
Yeah.
Early
Tramp (17:55):
a warmup.
Jay (17:56):
Yeah.
Yes.
If you really think about it.
That's exactly right.
It was a warmup.
Nailed it.
And then we went upstairs.
More people coming in, moregreat costumes.
Oh, the line
Tramp (18:05):
Oh yeah.
Was out.
The line was stretched so farout the door.
Elle (18:09):
Yeah.
Come early, that's for sure.
Come, come early
Tramp (18:12):
guys.
Elle (18:12):
And then as the dinner
tables were clearing out, they
were moving tables and chairsout of there so that the dance
floor could get bigger andmm-hmm.
The music was good and peoplewere dancing.
Tramp (18:22):
And it was so much fun.
Just as you guys have said.
The weather was fantastic.
So
Elle (18:29):
yeah.
Tramp (18:30):
People were outside,
whereas in past years it's been
bitter cold or even snowing.
Elle (18:34):
Yeah.
Tramp (18:35):
And there were people who
had reserved cabanas and just
going and socializing withfriends where it was a little
quieter than Right on the dancefloor and inside.
Right.
And being able to actuallybreathe.
Yes.
I guess,
Elle (18:50):
yeah, breathing was really
a great commodity, that whole
thing.
It wasn't, we weren't
Jay (18:55):
packed in there like
sardines.
Right.
Exactly.
This years.
Elle (18:57):
Exactly.
I gotcha.
And that was nice.
It was still a lot of people,but it was comfortable.
It was very comfortable.
And then, we really startedrolling it out on the dance
floor and we were dancing in abig group of people from the
party the night before.
Tramp (19:10):
That's true.
Elle (19:11):
Yeah.
Jay (19:13):
Very much.
Elle (19:13):
Yeah.
Oh, there was one time I wentlooking for you, Jay, you and CC
were gonna go downstairs to goto the bathroom and you hadn't
come up for a while, so I camedown to find you and you were
with our other play partnerssitting on one of the sofas.
Tramp (19:28):
It seems to be a
recurring theme.
Jay disappears to some randomdownstairs area and kind of gets
lost for a little bit.
Elle (19:35):
Yeah.
It makes it easier to find him.
Tramp (19:36):
I plead the fifth,
Jay (19:39):
but no, the four of us were
starting to have a lot of fun
and and we did, and then mm-hmm.
And then you joined us.
Mm-hmm.
And added to that fun, you know,a lot of people walking by,
pausing, smiling, watching.
Elle (19:52):
Mm-hmm.
Jay (19:53):
I think there were several
orgasms.
Down there
Elle (19:55):
most likely.
Jay (19:57):
There was
Elle (19:57):
a, young couple next to
you that you started kind of
talking with and he's very
Jay (20:04):
distinguished, has a bit of
an accent.
She.
Gorgeous voluptuous darkskinned, and I just took a break
sitting next to her.
Did you guys like the show?
And they're like, oh my God,that was so fun to watch.
Thank you for just letting us bepart of it, sort of.
Mm-hmm.
And then he's like, nudging meto like, you know, she's got
really great breasts.
(20:24):
You should feel'em.
And I'm like.
Are you okay with that?
Start playing with her a littlebit.
They're just getting, she'slike, I've never had two men at
the same time as we're nibblingon her breasts and she's just
loving it.
And then a little later shegoes, oh my God, this is such a
great birthday.
And I just, excuse me, it's yourbirthday, right?
(20:46):
Well, happy birthday.
What
Elle (20:48):
else can we do for you?
And I
Jay (20:49):
go down between our legs
and I'm.
Elle (20:52):
Oh, within seconds.
She's screaming.
She's hollering, she's laughing.
She's having so much fun.
I think she even yelled that youneeded your own channel.
I think like you should haveyour own like television channel
for something station for doingthis.
That,
Jay (21:06):
and she had this, it was
hilarious.
She had this screaming orgasm, Imean Oh yeah.
Fucking like a Bronco.
And we finish and I pause andthen I stand up and there's like
25 people watching.
So what do I do?
I put my fists on my hips, likeSuperman, and I look at them and
I go.
My job here is done and I makelike I'm flying away
Elle (21:27):
and everyone gave you a
nice little applause.
Jay (21:30):
That's the ranch, my
friends.
That is the ranch.
It just could be silly and funand sexy altogether.
Elle (21:38):
Yeah.
Tramp (21:38):
Right.
And you guys came and found meand I had just been socializing
the whole time.
There's definitely a sexy sideto the lifestyle, but I have to
be honest, I enjoy just as muchthe social side.
Elle (21:50):
Yeah.
Being able to talk to peopleabout anything and you just have
that comfort level.
Mm-hmm.
I agree.
Tramp (21:56):
I've said multiple times
before that.
Whether you're going out to thebar for drinks or watching the
football game, or going out todinner with vanilla friends,
quite frankly, sometimes it'skind of boring.
Most of the time it's kind ofboring.
Elle (22:10):
Well, you have to make
that much more effort to think
about what you can, to talkabout what you can't.
And that makes it harder.
Jay (22:17):
True.
I have no friends outside thelifestyle.
Yeah.
So
Elle (22:20):
there you go.
That's not true.
You do.
No.
Jay (22:27):
And then what time did we
decide to come back here?
Elle (22:30):
Oh, I think we were
dancing on the dance floor and
it was about 1130.
And, and I think
Tramp (22:35):
people were still coming
in at that point.
True.
Yeah.
They were very true.
Elle (22:39):
Yeah.
They were.
And the four of us decided we'dgo back to the house and do
round two of, the play weekend.
Mm-hmm.
Tramp (22:48):
Now I have to be very
forthcoming where I admit I was
having so much fun justsocializing and especially with
the little sexy activitiesearlier on in the evening.
I pulled a rookie move and Ioverindulged a little bit.
Elle (23:03):
Oopsies
Tramp (23:05):
happens to everyone at
some point or another.
Elle (23:08):
We didn't hold it against
Tramp (23:09):
you.
No, I know that, but I felt likegarbage because I was fully
anticipating a, a wonderfulevening and it was a wonderful
evening.
Absolutely.
Don't get me wrong.
But there was, yeah, there weresome difficulties and while I
was still involved that, thatwe'll get to, it didn't turn out
necessarily the way that I hadenvisioned it, but it's a
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learning experience.
Hey, what's the golden rule?
Jay (23:33):
No expectations.
Right,
Elle (23:36):
right, right.
Jay (23:37):
So how about you take us
through this next chapter?
Elle (23:41):
Hmm.
Well, I remember things, but Iknow, it was a lot of side by
side playing.
And tramp, you and I wereplaying for a while and Jay, you
were playing with Cece for awhile and we just sort of, kind
of flip flopped back and forth.
You and I tramp wound up kind ofcuddling a little bit mm-hmm.
(24:02):
And watching them, which wassuper sexy.
And then at one point.
Jay, was it with me, right?
You first?
You were fucking me and yougrabbed a a dildo, so you were
in my ass.
Yes.
The dildo went in my pussy.
Yes.
And then we absconded with trampto be in my mouth, so I went
(24:27):
airtight,
Jay (24:28):
which using two men and a
toy actually works really well.
Elle (24:33):
Yeah, you don't have the
awkwardness of all those extra
limbs.
Trying to, trying to negotiatedown there, trying to maneuver.
Right.
All you have to do is make sure,somebody's moving it in time to
everything else, but, well, ifyou have
Jay (24:46):
one with a large base, IE.
Balls.
Yes.
You can grab
Elle (24:50):
onto those.
Jay (24:50):
No, you don't even have to.
You just we're spooning.
Yeah.
While we were doing it.
Yeah.
And then when I thrust it wouldgo in you and Well,
Elle (24:58):
it was lovely.
Jay (25:00):
And then him in your mouth,
which you always love.
You always love.
I love that.
Yes.
Yes you do.
It gets you so wet.
Elle (25:08):
Mm-hmm.
Jay (25:09):
And after a really nice
orgasm.
Elle (25:12):
Yeah.
Jay (25:12):
And then it was cc's turn.
Elle (25:14):
Yeah.
Jay (25:15):
Look at her rock and roll.
Right.
And.
Got to be in her beautiful ass.
And then you put the I
Elle (25:22):
was moving the, the toy in
Dildo in and out, and then
Jay (25:26):
Tramp was a trooper helping
out in every way.
Yes, I
Tramp (25:30):
participated as much
Jay (25:32):
as I could.
We're not giving you aparticipation trophy.
And she had a really greatorgasm too.
Yeah.
So that was, and that was newfor her?
Yeah.
I don't think she had done that.
I don't think she had done thateither.
Tramp (25:45):
That is something in
those situations where everyone
has unique sounds and it can beso sexy.
Elle (25:52):
Yeah.
She had some sexy noises.
Tramp (25:55):
Oh, there were plenty of
sexy noises.
Yeah,
Elle (25:57):
for sure.
Yeah.
Tramp (25:57):
You too.
Elle (25:58):
Yeah.
Oh, yay.
Jay (26:00):
I gotta tell you, she has
been one of the quietest women
ever in my life when we firstgot together.
And she, who me?
You.
Yeah, you.
And just to find your voice, tobe able to express working on
what feels good, what you like,you know?
Oh my God.
To have you actually do dirtytalk.
That's, that's pretty hot.
(26:21):
So it's a growth, it's ajourney.
Elle (26:23):
Well, I'm sure there's
people who it comes naturally
to, but we always have topractice.
Right?
Tramp (26:28):
It is a skill as far as
dirty talking itself is
concerned.
Yeah.
I've only come across a handfulin my life and it is something
that quite frankly, really turnsme on.
Elle (26:39):
Oh
Tramp (26:39):
yeah.
And that's just me,
Elle (26:42):
Jay being a writer, he'll
start painting pictures and
telling me.
That's how we started when wefirst started dating and you
would just talk to me about whatyou wanted to see or what was
happening, and in your dirtylittle mind
Jay (26:56):
It is that
Elle (26:58):
it is,
Jay (26:59):
the imagination can be a
wonderful thing.
Oh my gosh.
We went pretty long.
Yeah, right?
Elle (27:04):
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think we were up till abouttwo, I think you and I, I
believe that went down about twoo'clock.
Tramp (27:12):
Yeah.
Elle (27:12):
And then you guys went
into the guest room and you
stayed the night?
Tramp (27:15):
I did.
You know, it was nice, just.
Cuddly.
Jay (27:20):
You guys had a great
connection.
Elle (27:22):
Yeah.
Jay (27:22):
Yeah.
Absolutely.
I mean, if you listen to theother podcast with you and Cece,
I mean, she's married, she'shappily married.
Yes.
She loves her husband dearly.
Yep.
He knows all about this.
There's no, the fact that shelives multiple states away, you
know, you guys aren't gonnadevelop an attachment.
Mm-hmm.
And, and you enjoy each other.
(27:43):
Yeah.
And you had a wonderful weekendand we are so glad to be a part
of it.
Tramp (27:47):
Well, I'm thankful to be
a part of it.
Jay (27:50):
Yes, that was, it
Elle (27:52):
was a good time.
Jay (27:53):
And then, God, what time
did you have to get at 7:00 AM
Elle (27:56):
Oh God.
It was like 7:00 AM I'd set thealarm.
'cause I know she needed to geton the road by eight and I was
not functioning.
No.
And she had offered to take anUber and I went in the room.
You guys were like lively,awake.
Like
Jay (28:13):
getting ready to play
awake.
Well,
Elle (28:15):
she was, getting ready to
go.
Oh, but you guys were wide awakeand you so graciously Tramp
offered to take her to theairport.
So I much better than taking anUber, so I really appreciate
that.
Well, and it, and he's
Jay (28:26):
gonna take it out in trade,
you know that.
Elle (28:28):
That's fine.
I'll pay the price.
Tramp (28:31):
It was good because Cece
and I had a chance.
To talk because the wholeweekend was very much focused on
lifestyle and all that, but tomake a genuine connection with
someone else, it was reallycool.
Elle (28:49):
Yeah, that's nice.
I like that
Tramp (28:51):
It's more than just
surface level.
It does have some depth.
Elle (28:55):
Yeah,
Tramp (28:55):
yeah.
Absolutely.
Elle (28:57):
You guys have been talking
since then and she's invited you
up and us up actually.
I mean, she's been inviting usup for quite a while up to the
Pacific Northwest to go to someof the parties that they're
throwing out there.
I mean, the Glow party itselflooks like it's pretty darn
amazing, so we're gonna have to.
Work our way up that direction,I think.
(29:18):
And that
Jay (29:18):
could be a later episode.
It very well could be.
Oh yeah.
I think we definitely need totake a little field trip.
Elle (29:24):
Oh, I like that field
trip.
I mean it really was just agreat weekend.
Lots of fun people, lots ofcrazy sex.
I give it 10 out of 10.
Tramp (29:38):
I would say, I would
agree with you Elle, where it
was an amazing weekend, and Iwill admit it took me a couple
days to fully recover.
Yeah.
Between, Friday night and allthe festivities and then
Saturday night.
And me, unfortunately,overindulging yeah, I'm not as
young as I once was, so it takesa little longer to get back on
(30:01):
the horse there, but other thanthe overindulging, I wouldn't
have.
It changed anything about thewhole weekend.
Mm-hmm.
And I'll say to heck with
Jay (30:08):
all the sex.
When was the last time I had 25strangers?
Give me a standing ovation.
Elle (30:12):
There you go.
That is awesome.
Tramp (30:15):
That is awesome, Jay.
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Elle (30:48):
Yeah,
Tramp (30:49):
I agree.
It's our cheers.
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What do you guys say about doinga quick a MA?
Sure.
All right.
Elle (30:59):
We're probably as willing
to just pour our hearts out and.
Tramp (31:02):
We are not professionals.
Sure.
Do not take this advice.
Right.
Elle (31:05):
This is just our opinion.
Tramp (31:08):
Alright, so this comes
from our friends, Bryon Palmer.
Okay.
Whom we had on a couple episodesback.
Yes, it did.
And one, oh, sorry.
Jay (31:19):
They were helping on
Halloween actual Halloween
party.
Yes.
They were behind the bar.
Yeah.
He's in the coat room andeverything.
And hat tip to them.
Yeah.
They're always truly jumping in.
Giving that extra, that extrabit.
Elle (31:30):
And behind the bar that
gets really crazy.
Tramp (31:32):
Sorry, go ahead.
Alright, here we go.
What is your personal greenflag?
In another couple.
Jay (31:40):
Hmm.
Elle (31:40):
Okay.
Jay (31:41):
I'll say we're Sapio.
Sexuals.
Elle (31:43):
Yeah.
Jay (31:43):
We really are cannot be
that attractive.
But if you're super, we makethat intellectual and, and we're
laughing.
I was gonna say,
Elle (31:51):
if you can make
Jay (31:52):
me laugh, you become pretty
sexy to us.
And on the flip side, you couldbe very gorgeous, and if there's
a hint of narcissism oroverindulgence not gonna happen.
Elle (32:04):
Right?
Yeah, no, I, I would definitelysay making me laugh, you know,
just.
Jay (32:11):
Yeah.
Putting you at ease.
Elle (32:12):
Putting yeah, putting me
at ease.
That brings you up a couple ofnotches on my belt.
Mm-hmm.
Jay (32:17):
But you like people to be
direct.
You are not a fire starter.
Elle (32:20):
No.
It's helpful if they're direct.
Yeah.
So this is true.
Jay (32:25):
Word to the wise out there.
You have to make the first move.
Elle (32:28):
Tell me if you're
flirting,
Tramp (32:31):
I'm gonna get you that
t-shirt.
Elle (32:32):
I know.
I saw it the other night.
Tramp (32:35):
I would say.
Two qualities are very obviousgreen flags where you can tell
the couple genuinely loves eachother.
Oh, they're in it together.
Oh, good one.
This, this is to add, it's notto fix a problem in their
marriage or relationship, butthis is a, A bonus.
Elle (32:54):
Yeah.
Tramp (32:55):
And well said.
You can tell right off the batthat they are each other's
highest priority.
Agreed.
And.
I know I'm gonna sound like abroken record, Al, but I know
where you're gonna go with thiscommunication.
Elle (33:09):
We hadn't even said it
yet.
Yes.
When
Tramp (33:11):
they can communicate.
For example, in another lifetimeago, the best couples date that
we had was with a lovely coupleand they were very direct.
Number one, you could tell thatthey cared about each other very
much, but also.
They didn't beat around the bushin terms of, they said, Hey,
(33:31):
we've had a wonderful eveningwith you guys.
'cause we did drinks and we diddinner and whatnot.
And we would love to invite youguys back to play.
Elle (33:39):
Yeah.
Tramp (33:40):
And if you're interested,
fantastic.
If not, that's fine.
And we've had a wonderfulevening.
Elle (33:45):
I think that's gorgeous.
So do that, just that clear.
Yeah.
And
Tramp (33:49):
concise communication.
Elle (33:51):
Never wondering.
'cause it seems like, yeah,everything's going really well,
but mm-hmm.
Where do we go next?
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Jay (33:56):
Excellent, excellent point.
Elle (33:57):
Well done.
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Elle (34:43):
in fact.
Nice thinking about that.
Nice.
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Yep.
Yep.
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Elle (35:29):
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Tramp (35:29):
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Elle (35:31):
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Elle (35:46):
Okay, well, until next
time, I'm Al
Tramp (35:50):
and I'm the Tramp.
Elle (35:51):
Be sexy,
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be confident.
Elle (35:53):
Be unapologetic.