December 20, 2024 • 31 mins
Jay and Elle are back to tell us about there sexy adventures aboard the most recent Bliss cruise.
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Elle (00:04):
Welcome back to unapologetic swingers.
I'm l and I'm the
Tramp (00:08):
tramp and guys.
We'd really like to welcome backmy very sexy Co host guest co
hosts here.
J and l once again.
Jay (00:18):
Oh, thank you.
I didn't know you thought I wassexy also
Tramp (00:22):
I just want to spread the love a little bit.
It is the season.
And guys just a quick recap ofthe podcast It is just a place
where we can come together andtalk about our adventures and
sometimes our misadventures, asthey may be, as we explore the
lifestyle and sometimes variousaspects of it that a lot of
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people don't even recognize asbeing part of the lifestyle.
Beautifully put.
Thank you.
So this will 12 titled How welost our bliss cruise virginity.
Jay (00:59):
Wow.
You make it sound so serious.
Tramp (01:02):
Well, you guys just returned from the fall 2024
bliss cruise.
Jay (01:08):
Yes.
November, November, 2024.
Elle (01:11):
Okay.
And it was, it far exceeded ourexpectations.
Let's put it that way.
Jay (01:18):
Hands down.
Best vacation of my life.
Elle (01:22):
You're welcome.
Tramp (01:25):
And for the listeners, this isn't going to be yet
another just review and how youcompare it to some of the
lifestyle, land based resorts, Iguess you would say, but really
focusing on, yeah, you'll getsome pro tips that J and L
picked up along the way andhopefully some sexy adventures
if they're willing to talk aboutit.
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Just some of the great thingsthat they came across, some
things that probably blew theirminds, and some things that
maybe the cruise lines couldhave done a little better.
Elle (01:56):
Yeah, there wasn't too much of that, but I will say,
just to start off friends ofours here in town, before, We
went on the cruise had just comeback from the spring one and
pulled us aside and said okayHere's the things you need to
bring which I really was sotruly grateful for
Jay (02:14):
yes This would fall under the prep work portion of the
show
Elle (02:20):
first of all get an Amazon account if you don't already
have one and plug in cruise lineitems, and it does help you out
there, but some of the thingsthat they told us is to make
sure that we have a magnetic dryerase board to put on our door.
So we could either tell somepeople where we were going to be
at if we weren't in our room, orfor people to leave us notes.
Jay (02:41):
Right.
Now, if you followed the news,Carnival has just announced no
pineapples, stickers, oranything allowed on the doors.
They don't want strangersidentifying each other on a
vanilla cruise.
This cruise was 100 percentlifestyle.
6, 000 people.
Everybody, not everybody, almosteverybody really decorates their
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doors, whether it's pictures ofthemselves or showing what
they're into or jokes or funnythings.
It's just starts the partyatmosphere and you walk by
someone's door, you grab the dryerase, you leave them a note or,
Hey, saw you with the such andsuch bar, you know, let's get a
drink.
Unfortunately, our room.
Elle (03:22):
Was it at the butt end of the boat?
Jay (03:24):
Yes, it was almost all the way aft.
Aft.
Sorry, the ass end.
Nobody was just walking by ourdoor.
You had to come all the way downto almost the very end of a dead
end hallway, passageway, to getto our room.
Elle (03:40):
Yeah, for sure.
But we did have a few peoplestop by, so that was kind of
nice.
Jay (03:46):
First full day.
I get out of the shower, it'snoon, I think, we're like,
something, a little after lunch.
And I'm getting out of theshower, and I come into the
room, and I go, Did somebodyjust knock on the door?
I thought I heard something.
And she goes, I'm not sure.
And so she opens up the door,and There was
Elle (04:04):
a couple standing in the hallway making out, and I
jokingly said, get a room.
And they're like, well, we cameto see yours.
Jay (04:12):
We had met them previously the day before, and they were
coming by to leave us a note,and I'm literally standing here
naked, I'm like, well, come onin.
I'm like, oh no, oh no, wecan't, we can't maybe, maybe
later, I like, well, how muchtime you need?
And they literally looked ateach other and they went, how
about one hour?
And they did come back in anhour.
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Literally one hour and oneminute, there was a knock at our
door, and a couple we had, I didreally not know.
And we had a wonderful littleplay time for about an hour or
so.
Tramp (04:44):
There's something about the spontaneity of things like
that.
I know I've enjoyed it in thepast and it can be a lot of fun.
Elle (04:53):
Yeah.
I personally feel a little freerwith myself.
I mean, Jay has said any numberof times he really likes
vacation L.
Yes, we all do,
Jay (05:06):
actually.
Elle (05:07):
Cause it's, I'm a little less reserved, I'm a little more
spontaneous.
So, yeah, it definitely was aweek worth of that.
And
Jay (05:16):
I would say so many people have that vacation L attitude.
It isn't the what goes on inVegas stays in Vegas, but
everybody is in such an upbeat,positive, positive attitude.
Happy mood that when you meetsome hey, how's it going?
Great.
How are you and they meet it?
You know, it's it's really oneof the best parts of the cruise
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Experience is the camaraderieand yeah happy joy joy feelings
Tramp (05:44):
Now this was six nights, correct six nights seven days.
Okay.
Yeah So it was the longer of thetwo annual bliss cruises, I
guess.
Elle (05:53):
Yes.
Yeah, I believe so.
Okay This one went from Miami tothe Dominican Republic to Haiti
to Cozumel and back to Miami.
So it was pretty full with somesea days on there too.
Jay (06:04):
Yeah.
And we got in two days early.
A lot of people do.
There's a lot of partying, poolparties, meet and greets at the
various hotels.
So it really goes a long way to,you'll see people you recognize
are from your own area.
Elle (06:20):
I think there were 60 plus people from Denver.
Jay (06:24):
Yeah.
People you chat with onlineprior to, and then there they
are and you meet them and youknow, maybe there is advertised,
maybe they're not, but you know,everybody's so excited to get on
the boat that already that partyvibe is starting.
Yeah.
Tramp (06:38):
It's contagious when that happens.
Yeah.
Elle (06:42):
Yeah.
Tramp (06:42):
You just, everyone's ready, ready just to go.
Elle (06:45):
Yeah, to just get going.
And sometimes we have friendsthat have said that those first
two days before the boat evenleaves, they could lose their
voice from talking so much andhaving such a good time just
with the pre partying aspect ofit all.
Just getting ready.
Jay (07:02):
No, no, no, not at all.
And then you get on the boat,the boat pulls out, everybody's,
you know, there we go.
Festival party atmosphere.
When the, ship is cruising,everybody's up at the pool,
hanging out or going ashore thatcomes later.
Elle (07:16):
Yeah.
Jay (07:17):
It's not a zoo, but that's the crowdest it was, was on that
first day up on deck around allthe pools.
Yes, we were pulling out.
Elle (07:25):
Yeah.
We were really concerned aboutis 6, 000 people on a boat.
Will there be any sort of crowdanxiety going on?
But other than sea days whentons of people were at the pool
and it was like, spring breakmazatlan or in the evenings on
the promenade when everyone isin costume and walking around
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and looking at each other.
But even then it never felt toomuch.
Jay (07:50):
No, and that's a great point.
Real quick.
The costumes, you have 6, 000people on a lifestyle cruise.
People who like to dress updifferent themes every night.
You're going to have someamazing costumes.
It's so fun.
We have wonderful friends fromScottsdale and it was superhero
night.
They paid for the whole bodypainting.
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He's very large, muscular.
She's this adorably hard bodiedlittle fitness girl.
They were Drax the Destroyer andNebula from
Tramp (08:22):
Guardians Guardians of the Galaxy.
Thank you.
Guardians of the
Jay (08:24):
Galaxy.
And they nailed it.
Oh yeah.
And people were wanting to takepictures with them just like you
do at Vegas or New York City.
Disney World or New York City.
So, we loved it.
We loved that carnivalatmosphere.
Tramp (08:36):
All I can think of is knowing Lifestyle people and the
costumes is they're probablystill finding glitter on that
cruise ship and they probablywill for the next year.
Oh,
Elle (08:48):
for sure.
Perfect.
The amount of glitter that wasjust floating around.
Just obscene.
Yes.
Jay (08:55):
And people the next day.
Oh, look, your arm is stillpainted or still covered in
silver glitter And you know, youcan go with another couple you
could go Predetermined to meetcertain people that you've
chatted with online.
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You could just be laissez faireand whoever we meet we meet
you're at the bar and you turnand hi, and it could start off a
lifelong friendship.
We had an actual, a singlegentleman, Mike, he was there
with his platonic oldest femalefriend.
She wanted to go and asked himto join.
And so they actually, theyshared the bed for sleeping.
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But during the day and evenings,she had the room from like noon
to four.
He had it from four to eight, sothey had to coordinate.
Did they have to leave a sock ora tie?
They just texted, but I actuallyasked that and he was just such
a great guy.
L really took a shine to him andwe had really one of the most
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erotic threesomes.
Elle (10:02):
Oh yeah.
Jay (10:03):
And I,
Elle (10:04):
I referred to it as Cirque de Soleil sex.
I don't remember my body beingable to contort into some of
those positions ever before.
Tramp (10:14):
Oh, that could be
Jay (10:16):
the beginning of my back hurting.
Mike is half Cuban and he'squite a dancer.
Yeah.
I mean Latin style.
We've now determined Elle and Iare gonna take lessons.
Elle (10:26):
Yeah.
Jay (10:27):
But there was a fitness girl, I think she was Colombian,
just stunningly gorgeous, and Ikept running into her.
Like two times a day, I pass herin the hallway or in the
elevator or whatever and I'mchatting her up a little bit and
then Mike and I were coming frompicking up something in his
room.
She got off the elevator and Icalled, Mike, get back here, get
back here, this is a girl I wantyou to meet.
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And they start talking, theyboth start speaking Spanish so
fast, there was no way I wasgoing to catch up.
And that night she showed up atthe at the latin bar and he's
out there just spinning heraround like a pro And her
husband's there filming it andyou're just like it's a magical
moment And then all these othergirls line up and say is that
your friend?
(11:08):
Well, would you like to dancewith him?
Well, I I don't know how but I Icould be I could follow And they
he would take these girls outgive them a dance and then back
and they just It made theirtrip, you know, they were so
happy to have that.
He was having a ball too.
Oh, he's he's such a great guy.
He will stay a friend.
We definitely Yeah,
Elle (11:28):
definitely We met so many great people.
I mean going on the boat.
We knew a bunch of people goingbut you know in our mind it's to
meet new people and you get onchat groups and things like that
and there's a number of peoplethat you You Talk to and want to
meet up with or whatever.
There was a couple where we hadmet her This summer purgatory in
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Houston and she was there with abunch of girlfriends.
And so we started chatting andthen we wound up hanging out
with them any number of times.
And our good friends fromDallas, Texas.
But people told us you seesomebody you like and you find
that they're attractive, gettheir contact information.
Cause you're never going to seethem again.
Tramp (12:06):
Yeah.
With 6, 000 people on board,
Elle (12:08):
but we did.
We were so surprised that thepeople that we met that we
wanted to see again that, wealways seem to run into them at
least once a day.
So, that was pretty cool.
Jay (12:19):
And I need to give a shout out to our Dallas friends.
Because Elle's back was reallyhurting her on that last day.
She had to go lay down.
And they invited Mike and I andMiss S.
I hope you had a very good time.
I heard she did.
I think if anybody goes with anopen mind and just no baggage,
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no drama, we're here to havefun, communicate with your
partner to make sure there's nomisunderstandings.
Oh my God, you're going to havethe best time ever.
Why wouldn't you?
You know,
Elle (12:51):
I mean, the goal wasn't to come away with some lifelong
friends.
But it happened.
Yeah, there was a couple inOrlando that we met on the first
night that we went to one of thepre parties we talked we got
along and they were interestingand then To what two days into
the cruise they invited us tohave dinner with them We had
dinner with them and then all ofa sudden every night at 530.
Hey, what are you guys doing fordinner?
(13:13):
Well, we didn't want to ask youguys because we didn't want to
overstay our welcome.
We're like, well, we really wantto spend more time with you and
wound up having days.
Yeah,
Jay (13:21):
absolutely.
When we met them at the hotellater that night, I went, wow,
they're the couple.
I really hope we can get to knowthem.
We didn't know it at the time.
They were saying the exact samething.
Elle (13:34):
Oh, yeah.
After that first night, afterdinner and, and.
Other things.
The next morning, I got up andI'm doing a search for, flights
to Orlando and they told us, oh,well, we were already looking
for flights to Denver.
So, they're actually coming outin a few weeks to spend some
time with us and she and I haveplans to go to New Orleans, just
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her and I, watch out
Jay (13:56):
New Orleans.
Elle (13:57):
You
Tramp (13:58):
know, I think it's just a testament to.
Just the incredibly authenticpeople that you can find in the
lifestyle.
Elle (14:05):
Exactly.
Exactly.
Yeah.
I don't, think there was acouple we met that we went,
yeah, we didn't need to meetthem.
You know, there wasn't, therewas just really good people.
And, talking about, we weren'tdoing a comparison to other land
based lifestyle But thedifference between this and say
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one of the resorts is at theresorts, people are coming and
going so you can meet a reallygreat couple and they're like,
well, we have to leave at 6 a.
m.
tomorrow morning because we haveto go catch a flight, right?
Or you can spend the whole weekgoing.
Wow, that's a lot of loud mouthdrunks and not really connect
with anybody.
But on a ship this size, youhave 6, 000 people.
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You meet somebody and it's notclicking.
You turn around and meetsomebody else.
No harm, no foul.
You just move on.
And everybody just was so easyto get along with.
Jay (15:00):
And, it's, it's some of those chance encounters.
that really make for specialmoments.
If I may, just a quick story,Mike and I were running to, I
think change cause we had tomeet you and, and we get on the
elevator as just two of us andthen the door opens and an older
woman, little on the heavy side,she, gets onto the elevator
stands and then all of a suddenlooks up at both of us.
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He's a pretty tall guy, and it'sjust like, oh my.
Well, I'm a smart aleck, and Ijust go, well, we hire her out
as a team.
And she looks at me and goes,really?
Like that.
And we're just laughing.
Bing! There's our floor.
Hold the door for her.
She gets off.
She starts turning every turnthat we're turning till we get
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to his room.
She's going down the hallway,and I'm just like, give me one
second.
And I just run down the hall toher, and I'm like, sweetheart.
She turns around.
And I know no permission asked,but I just lean in, take her
cheeks, give her this beautifullittle soft kiss and went, you
have a great day.
And you just turn and walk away.
(16:04):
You're just sharing the joy, youknow, is how it works.
That's how I like to think of
Elle (16:09):
it.
You're good at that though.
You love to share love and joy.
Okay.
Tramp (16:15):
No, but I guarantee that you made her I'd like to think
so.
Elle (16:20):
Oh, I know if somebody, you know, did that to me, a
nice, tall, handsome gentleman,oh, thank
Jay (16:25):
you, babe.
Elle (16:25):
Followed me down the hallway.
No.
That's not.
Hmm.
But it just, you know, even justgetting on the elevator, you
don't know anybody on there.
It's a crowded elevator andthere are so many meet and
greets.
Like there's meet and greets forFrench people.
There's meet and greets for,people just starting in the
lifestyle.
There's meet and greets for,whatever you could possibly
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think of.
So we get in the elevator andI'm like, Oh, welcome to my
elevator meet and greet, youknow, that was her line.
Jay (16:54):
And that got a chuckle.
My, my go to was.
I just want to warn all of you.
I'm not wearing underwear.
That's true That was enough tousually get the get the banter
started.
Elle (17:05):
Yeah,
Jay (17:05):
but you your joy moment was the very last night
Elle (17:09):
Yeah, I felt really good For most of the trip, but I have
some back issues and abouthalfway through the trip.
It really started playing havocon my play time and by the last
day You I was not comfortable.
Let's put it that way.
I was very uncomfortable, but wewere at a bar that was playing
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the Latin music and we had allof our friends around us,
Jay (17:33):
all our new friends, all
Elle (17:35):
our new friends around us and found a seat at the bar and
I could just sit there andwatch, everybody dance or, you
know, someone would come up tome and put their arms around me
and just give me the kisses.
Other people would unzip mydress.
Yeah.
Okay.
Good.
You're going to go there.
I mean, they
Jay (17:52):
were making out boys, girls were all over you there.
And of course her sexy dress hada zipper right in the front.
So that kept going magicallydown to her navel and then boobs
out getting played with by boysand girls.
And you're just like sittingthere, like just enjoying
myself, the queen.
Elle (18:09):
And, and at the end of the night, they all walked me to my
room, which was.
It was a little challenging.
It was very uncomfortable bythen.
But I felt love and they madesure I got home safe.
I mean I'm surprised they didn'tundress me and put me to bed.
But, give me a little kiss on mynose.
But they did take care of me.
I felt loved.
And yeah, that was probably oneof my favorite moments.
(18:32):
Just sort of encapsulated thetrue love and Joy that I found
throughout the whole trip.
There you go.
Yeah, what was your high moment?
Well,
Jay (18:45):
it was that same night, and the reason, some of you have
probably figured out why wasn'tJay there to help Elle back into
her room.
There was an absolutely adorablecouple, so classy, so cute.
And they basically asked if Icould be their third for an MFM.
They had never experienced that.
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And Always
Elle (19:08):
accommodating.
Jay (19:09):
Yes.
Yes.
Thank you.
Elle was very nice to say, yougo play, go, go, go show them a
good time.
Thank you.
I have the best wife ever.
And it was, it was really sweet.
We just, we had a great time andshe was nervous and giggly, but
I think I helped them have areally nice, memorable, it was
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their last night.
It was everybody's last night.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Caution to the wind kind ofthing, I guess.
Elle (19:36):
Yeah.
Tramp (19:37):
It's like that with normal takeovers as well as I've
experienced where sometimesearlier in the week, things can
be a little slow and then thingsreally ramp up the last two
nights.
Typically.
Jay (19:53):
That makes perfect sense.
Elle (19:55):
Yeah.
Yeah.
Cause everyone's comfortable.
And then you have that feelingof, Oh shoot, this is ending.
Yeah.
Low.
Yeah.
Yeah, exactly.
Exactly.
Tramp (20:04):
Now, one question I have is obviously that this is, was a
mainline cruise line.
It was, it was fully charteredof course.
How did the onboard staff do,because as we know, as lifestyle
folks, particularly in theevenings and the alcohol is
flowing and as I understand it,the ships are not completely
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clothing optional.
You can't walk through thecorridors and elevators and etc.
Elle (20:31):
No, really just at the pool.
Or I think we could walk aroundtopless if it was part of the
costume or something.
But they, you know, youdefinitely couldn't, if you went
to dinner and you had a skimpyoutfit on, they would give you a
towel to sit on.
So we had friends and hersuperhero was a bikini and they
asked her to wrap a towel aroundher and her option was, well,
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maybe I just don't need to eattonight, but I, I would have
been fine.
If my skirt was a little shortor something and you want me to
sit on a towel, I'm okay withthat.
But as far as the staff goes.
They were outstanding, theseguys know what's coming, this is
a bunch of lifestylers are gonnaget crazy You're gonna see some
stuff that you don't normallysee on a cruise, but our steward
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could toot was Amazing and everyday he's changing out the rooms
and cleaning them up and makingthe beds and everything but Not
our room but Like catering towhatever we needed, it's like,
there wasn't an ice machine togo to, so we would really like
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two things of ice a day.
And that was always there.
And every time he would be inanother room, and we'd walk by,
he'd look up, and call us byname, and ask how we're doing,
is there anything that we need.
And we were just blown away bythe, care.
And that is what I heard fromeverybody.
Jay (21:53):
You
Elle (21:53):
know, so it didn't, he wasn't special, but he was
special to us.
So, yeah.
Jay (21:57):
That's a great way to say it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Tramp (22:00):
I would venture to say that the staff, I'm sure the
cruise line gives them an optionsaying, Oh, sure.
This is what's coming.
You know, you don't feelcomfortable, opt out, opt out,
but I'm pretty certain noknowing lifestyle folks and we
take care of people I'm prettysure there's some folks that
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say.
That's my favorite week of theyear.
Elle (22:23):
I could
Jay (22:23):
see that.
And he's responsible for what?
That, that corridor, 12, 12, 15,16 rooms.
And if everybody just throw thisnumber out, if everybody tipped
him a thousand dollars at theend of one week.
He's making some good.
He's doing all right forhimself, you know, so, but they
were all, I mean, the, even thedinner staff, even the, the
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buffet people, we didn't runinto anybody that was difficult
or not immediately attentive.
Elle (22:54):
No, and we weren't surprised, with having a drink,
all you can drink drink package.
I think we thought we would seea lot more.
sloppy drunks than we didgranted we probably called it a
night a little earlier than somepeople but i was up till yeah oh
that's right i was not
Jay (23:13):
a few times
Elle (23:13):
yeah did you see sloppy drunks out on your tours
Jay (23:16):
only two that we kind of know yeah i literally was at 2
30 and i'm walking through themezzanine i look oh There's my
friends walk over and they'retrapped.
That's true They were sotrapped.
So I sat there and talked until3 a.
m And i'm like guys, I've got togo to bed and you really should
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too Yeah, you're gonna be hatingtomorrow So yeah, absolutely.
We signed up as soon as we couldfor next year And I think this
is our jam from now movingforward.
Elle (23:49):
I can see why people reserve for the next two years.
We obviously didn't get it forthis next year, but we're on the
wait list.
And then we're definitely goingto sign up for 2026 because next
this coming year 2025 is asmaller boat again, but 2026 it
goes back to the symphony of theseas and it's 6, 000 people.
Jay (24:09):
It's a big boat.
It looks down on every boat wewere in port with.
Oh yeah.
Elle (24:14):
So I mean, not, you know, not, Figuratively like it that
they're lesser votes physically.
Jay (24:20):
Oh my God.
Tramp (24:24):
Sorry.
Is there anything else that youguys wanted to
Jay (24:29):
know?
Elle (24:30):
Actually, I mean,
Jay (24:31):
I mean, you know some people over pack no matter where
you go.
Elle (24:34):
Why are you looking at me?
Jay (24:35):
But, but you know, to where I took my tux.
for and she had a ballgown for,for formal night, formal night.
Thank you.
And then you got your costumes,whether it's superhero stuff or
back to school.
Elle (24:50):
Oh yeah.
That was
Jay (24:51):
fun for us.
God,
Elle (24:52):
that was fun.
So back to school, he was aTruant young lad, and I was a
counselor, school counselor, andthen we had met some, some
people from Australia and we'reon the elevator with them and
the other people are commentingand, discussed who Jay was and
who I was.
And then Jay looked at ourfriends from Australia and said,
Jay (25:14):
These are our foreign exchange students.
Elle (25:17):
It was awesome! Because they hadn't really dressed up.
Jay (25:21):
And we had a really fun little evening.
Elle (25:24):
Oh yeah, we had a fun night with them too.
Jay (25:26):
They were very energetic.
It's so great to be with peoplein bed who are energetic.
Who are fun.
Who know what they want.
They know how to use theirwords.
They know What they like andjust to have that kind of fun.
The most we had was what threecouples or four in
Elle (25:44):
one
Jay (25:45):
room.
It was
Elle (25:46):
that three couple room,
Jay (25:49):
right?
Yeah.
There's supposed to be four,
Elle (25:51):
right?
One couple didn't couldn't makeit.
So it was three, wait, one, two,three of us.
Yeah.
Three couples.
Jay (25:57):
And that may not be everybody's jam, but when,
people click and there's sexualattraction and you just, you can
sit across the room, take abreak and watch
Elle (26:06):
all the things
Jay (26:08):
happening.
And it is fun.
Elle (26:10):
Yeah, it is
Jay (26:10):
fun.
Yeah.
It's not like they're going tobelieve you if you told them
back at work on Monday.
Tramp (26:19):
Well, fantastic guys.
Thank you for, sharing all ofthat knowledge and experience.
Jay (26:24):
Thank you, buddy.
Tramp (26:25):
So guys, we do not have an AMA this week, the Tramp is
going to do a little on the flyAMA for you guys.
Elle (26:34):
Hmm.
Tramp (26:35):
And, this'll be, easy.
Yeah.
Ask, ask me anything.
Jay (26:40):
Okay.
No, no.
Don't look so terrified.
No, it's no,
Tramp (26:46):
nothing terrifying about it, Jay.
Jay (26:48):
You can ask anything, you know that.
Yeah, oh,
Tramp (26:50):
I know.
No, no, no.
What was your favorite sexyexperience on the Bliss Cruise?
Each one of you guysindividually.
Elle (26:59):
Okay, for me, I would say it was when we were with single
guy Mike.
Jay had met him the night beforeand really hit it off and told
me about him and was bringinghim to the room and I'm like,
okay, and Jay went and took ashower and I was sitting on the
bed and when Mike came in and westarted talking and then next
(27:23):
thing I know my legs on his legand next thing I know I'm
sitting in his lap and nextthing I know we're making out.
Yes, I walk out of the shower
Jay (27:31):
and go, Well, that certainly escalated quickly.
I
Elle (27:34):
think he was in the shower for maybe two minutes.
So, it really did.
But he had such a warm and justenveloping energy about him.
And we hit it off.
And, and that was just such afree afternoon of play and fun
and laughing.
And, yeah, I really, enjoyedthat time with the two of them.
(27:57):
That's awesome.
Jay (27:58):
Yeah, that was a good time.
Most definitely for me.
As much as I want to say beingtheir first MFM, I'm going to go
back to our Dallas friends.
They were just so fun.
And Mike and I just theywelcomed us in and we just had
the best.
(28:19):
It was it was a lot of fun.
Elle (28:21):
So
Jay (28:24):
That's my, that's my story.
I'm sticking to it.
Elle (28:26):
All right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It was, it was good.
It was good.
Sexy fun.
That whole now,
Jay (28:31):
and some couples are different than us.
I mean, this was an exceptionfor us to play solo on occasion,
Elle (28:38):
right.
Jay (28:38):
You know actually you didn't, although you, you could
have.
Elle (28:42):
I could have, no, I could have your
Jay (28:44):
new girlfriend.
I give, okay, I'm out of theroom for the next three hours.
You two beautiful, sexy ladieshave a great time.
And of course, gentlemen, youknow what that means.
They sat on the bed and talkedthe whole time.
Elle (28:57):
Well, we'll make up for it when we go to Nola.
But but you know, the, we'vegotten to the point after five
years of being in the lifestylethat.
And we talk about a lot andthings still come up sometimes
that we go, Oh, well we nevertalked about that.
And that may not be something wewant to do.
But I trusted him and he knows,pretty much as if it's somebody
(29:19):
I know and feel comfortablewith.
And I didn't want my back tocause issues and it caused him
to not have a good time.
Now, if I had said, Jay, I wantto go to bed and I want you
there with me.
That's one thing.
But if I'm going to go to bedand take some muscle relaxers
and be out, there's no reason heshouldn't go and have a good
(29:40):
time.
And so I was best
Jay (29:43):
wife.
Elle (29:47):
Yeah, I was really okay with it.
And sometimes when that happens,you feel awkward and
uncomfortable and I don't thinkyou did because you found your
people.
Jay (29:57):
Oh yeah.
All these people, all of them,everybody out there in radio
land.
Yes.
Such great people.
Yeah.
Even those we never got a chanceto play with and
Elle (30:08):
people that wanted
Jay (30:08):
to, wanted to play with us and like, Oh my God, there you
guys are.
We were looking for you.
Blah, blah, blah, blah.
You're just like, we're righthere.
Here's our room number.
Not much more I can do on thatsubject.
So, well,
Tramp (30:22):
fantastic guys.
Thank you so much for sharing.
And for you listeners, if youhave questions or comments, feel
free just to reach out atunapologetic swingers at gmail.
com.
Feel free to visit our website.
You'll find a link for theshivers on there.
And wherever you're listening,just drop us a review that out
of everything that's going tohelp us the most.
(30:45):
Just get the word out andhopefully get a couple more
listeners on the podcast.
And I also do need some ask usanything questions guys, so
please, please, I'm begginghere.
Elle (30:56):
Are you tired of us already?
Tramp (30:58):
Not at all.
Not at all.
So guys, the next episode willbe kind of a to be determined.
Expect that here in a coupleweeks and we're just going to
keep on carrying on.
We have some interestingpotential topics here in the
pipeline, so I'm very excitedabout that.
Elle (31:17):
Well, until next time, I'm Elle.
And I'm the Tramp.
Be sexy.
Be confident.
Be unapologetic.
Welcome back to unapologetic swingers.
I'm l and I'm the
Tramp (00:08):
tramp and guys.
We'd really like to welcome backmy very sexy Co host guest co
hosts here.
J and l once again.
Jay (00:18):
Oh, thank you.
I didn't know you thought I wassexy also
Tramp (00:22):
I just want to spread the love a little bit.
It is the season.
And guys just a quick recap ofthe podcast It is just a place
where we can come together andtalk about our adventures and
sometimes our misadventures, asthey may be, as we explore the
lifestyle and sometimes variousaspects of it that a lot of
(00:44):
people don't even recognize asbeing part of the lifestyle.
Beautifully put.
Thank you.
So this will 12 titled How welost our bliss cruise virginity.
Jay (00:59):
Wow.
You make it sound so serious.
Tramp (01:02):
Well, you guys just returned from the fall 2024
bliss cruise.
Jay (01:08):
Yes.
November, November, 2024.
Elle (01:11):
Okay.
And it was, it far exceeded ourexpectations.
Let's put it that way.
Jay (01:18):
Hands down.
Best vacation of my life.
Elle (01:22):
You're welcome.
Tramp (01:25):
And for the listeners, this isn't going to be yet
another just review and how youcompare it to some of the
lifestyle, land based resorts, Iguess you would say, but really
focusing on, yeah, you'll getsome pro tips that J and L
picked up along the way andhopefully some sexy adventures
if they're willing to talk aboutit.
(01:45):
Just some of the great thingsthat they came across, some
things that probably blew theirminds, and some things that
maybe the cruise lines couldhave done a little better.
Elle (01:56):
Yeah, there wasn't too much of that, but I will say,
just to start off friends ofours here in town, before, We
went on the cruise had just comeback from the spring one and
pulled us aside and said okayHere's the things you need to
bring which I really was sotruly grateful for
Jay (02:14):
yes This would fall under the prep work portion of the
show
Elle (02:20):
first of all get an Amazon account if you don't already
have one and plug in cruise lineitems, and it does help you out
there, but some of the thingsthat they told us is to make
sure that we have a magnetic dryerase board to put on our door.
So we could either tell somepeople where we were going to be
at if we weren't in our room, orfor people to leave us notes.
Jay (02:41):
Right.
Now, if you followed the news,Carnival has just announced no
pineapples, stickers, oranything allowed on the doors.
They don't want strangersidentifying each other on a
vanilla cruise.
This cruise was 100 percentlifestyle.
6, 000 people.
Everybody, not everybody, almosteverybody really decorates their
(03:03):
doors, whether it's pictures ofthemselves or showing what
they're into or jokes or funnythings.
It's just starts the partyatmosphere and you walk by
someone's door, you grab the dryerase, you leave them a note or,
Hey, saw you with the such andsuch bar, you know, let's get a
drink.
Unfortunately, our room.
Elle (03:22):
Was it at the butt end of the boat?
Jay (03:24):
Yes, it was almost all the way aft.
Aft.
Sorry, the ass end.
Nobody was just walking by ourdoor.
You had to come all the way downto almost the very end of a dead
end hallway, passageway, to getto our room.
Elle (03:40):
Yeah, for sure.
But we did have a few peoplestop by, so that was kind of
nice.
Jay (03:46):
First full day.
I get out of the shower, it'snoon, I think, we're like,
something, a little after lunch.
And I'm getting out of theshower, and I come into the
room, and I go, Did somebodyjust knock on the door?
I thought I heard something.
And she goes, I'm not sure.
And so she opens up the door,and There was
Elle (04:04):
a couple standing in the hallway making out, and I
jokingly said, get a room.
And they're like, well, we cameto see yours.
Jay (04:12):
We had met them previously the day before, and they were
coming by to leave us a note,and I'm literally standing here
naked, I'm like, well, come onin.
I'm like, oh no, oh no, wecan't, we can't maybe, maybe
later, I like, well, how muchtime you need?
And they literally looked ateach other and they went, how
about one hour?
And they did come back in anhour.
(04:32):
Literally one hour and oneminute, there was a knock at our
door, and a couple we had, I didreally not know.
And we had a wonderful littleplay time for about an hour or
so.
Tramp (04:44):
There's something about the spontaneity of things like
that.
I know I've enjoyed it in thepast and it can be a lot of fun.
Elle (04:53):
Yeah.
I personally feel a little freerwith myself.
I mean, Jay has said any numberof times he really likes
vacation L.
Yes, we all do,
Jay (05:06):
actually.
Elle (05:07):
Cause it's, I'm a little less reserved, I'm a little more
spontaneous.
So, yeah, it definitely was aweek worth of that.
And
Jay (05:16):
I would say so many people have that vacation L attitude.
It isn't the what goes on inVegas stays in Vegas, but
everybody is in such an upbeat,positive, positive attitude.
Happy mood that when you meetsome hey, how's it going?
Great.
How are you and they meet it?
You know, it's it's really oneof the best parts of the cruise
(05:39):
Experience is the camaraderieand yeah happy joy joy feelings
Tramp (05:44):
Now this was six nights, correct six nights seven days.
Okay.
Yeah So it was the longer of thetwo annual bliss cruises, I
guess.
Elle (05:53):
Yes.
Yeah, I believe so.
Okay This one went from Miami tothe Dominican Republic to Haiti
to Cozumel and back to Miami.
So it was pretty full with somesea days on there too.
Jay (06:04):
Yeah.
And we got in two days early.
A lot of people do.
There's a lot of partying, poolparties, meet and greets at the
various hotels.
So it really goes a long way to,you'll see people you recognize
are from your own area.
Elle (06:20):
I think there were 60 plus people from Denver.
Jay (06:24):
Yeah.
People you chat with onlineprior to, and then there they
are and you meet them and youknow, maybe there is advertised,
maybe they're not, but you know,everybody's so excited to get on
the boat that already that partyvibe is starting.
Yeah.
Tramp (06:38):
It's contagious when that happens.
Yeah.
Elle (06:42):
Yeah.
Tramp (06:42):
You just, everyone's ready, ready just to go.
Elle (06:45):
Yeah, to just get going.
And sometimes we have friendsthat have said that those first
two days before the boat evenleaves, they could lose their
voice from talking so much andhaving such a good time just
with the pre partying aspect ofit all.
Just getting ready.
Jay (07:02):
No, no, no, not at all.
And then you get on the boat,the boat pulls out, everybody's,
you know, there we go.
Festival party atmosphere.
When the, ship is cruising,everybody's up at the pool,
hanging out or going ashore thatcomes later.
Elle (07:16):
Yeah.
Jay (07:17):
It's not a zoo, but that's the crowdest it was, was on that
first day up on deck around allthe pools.
Yes, we were pulling out.
Elle (07:25):
Yeah.
We were really concerned aboutis 6, 000 people on a boat.
Will there be any sort of crowdanxiety going on?
But other than sea days whentons of people were at the pool
and it was like, spring breakmazatlan or in the evenings on
the promenade when everyone isin costume and walking around
(07:45):
and looking at each other.
But even then it never felt toomuch.
Jay (07:50):
No, and that's a great point.
Real quick.
The costumes, you have 6, 000people on a lifestyle cruise.
People who like to dress updifferent themes every night.
You're going to have someamazing costumes.
It's so fun.
We have wonderful friends fromScottsdale and it was superhero
night.
They paid for the whole bodypainting.
(08:12):
He's very large, muscular.
She's this adorably hard bodiedlittle fitness girl.
They were Drax the Destroyer andNebula from
Tramp (08:22):
Guardians Guardians of the Galaxy.
Thank you.
Guardians of the
Jay (08:24):
Galaxy.
And they nailed it.
Oh yeah.
And people were wanting to takepictures with them just like you
do at Vegas or New York City.
Disney World or New York City.
So, we loved it.
We loved that carnivalatmosphere.
Tramp (08:36):
All I can think of is knowing Lifestyle people and the
costumes is they're probablystill finding glitter on that
cruise ship and they probablywill for the next year.
Oh,
Elle (08:48):
for sure.
Perfect.
The amount of glitter that wasjust floating around.
Just obscene.
Yes.
Jay (08:55):
And people the next day.
Oh, look, your arm is stillpainted or still covered in
silver glitter And you know, youcan go with another couple you
could go Predetermined to meetcertain people that you've
chatted with online.
(09:16):
You could just be laissez faireand whoever we meet we meet
you're at the bar and you turnand hi, and it could start off a
lifelong friendship.
We had an actual, a singlegentleman, Mike, he was there
with his platonic oldest femalefriend.
She wanted to go and asked himto join.
And so they actually, theyshared the bed for sleeping.
(09:38):
But during the day and evenings,she had the room from like noon
to four.
He had it from four to eight, sothey had to coordinate.
Did they have to leave a sock ora tie?
They just texted, but I actuallyasked that and he was just such
a great guy.
L really took a shine to him andwe had really one of the most
(10:01):
erotic threesomes.
Elle (10:02):
Oh yeah.
Jay (10:03):
And I,
Elle (10:04):
I referred to it as Cirque de Soleil sex.
I don't remember my body beingable to contort into some of
those positions ever before.
Tramp (10:14):
Oh, that could be
Jay (10:16):
the beginning of my back hurting.
Mike is half Cuban and he'squite a dancer.
Yeah.
I mean Latin style.
We've now determined Elle and Iare gonna take lessons.
Elle (10:26):
Yeah.
Jay (10:27):
But there was a fitness girl, I think she was Colombian,
just stunningly gorgeous, and Ikept running into her.
Like two times a day, I pass herin the hallway or in the
elevator or whatever and I'mchatting her up a little bit and
then Mike and I were coming frompicking up something in his
room.
She got off the elevator and Icalled, Mike, get back here, get
back here, this is a girl I wantyou to meet.
(10:47):
And they start talking, theyboth start speaking Spanish so
fast, there was no way I wasgoing to catch up.
And that night she showed up atthe at the latin bar and he's
out there just spinning heraround like a pro And her
husband's there filming it andyou're just like it's a magical
moment And then all these othergirls line up and say is that
your friend?
(11:08):
Well, would you like to dancewith him?
Well, I I don't know how but I Icould be I could follow And they
he would take these girls outgive them a dance and then back
and they just It made theirtrip, you know, they were so
happy to have that.
He was having a ball too.
Oh, he's he's such a great guy.
He will stay a friend.
We definitely Yeah,
Elle (11:28):
definitely We met so many great people.
I mean going on the boat.
We knew a bunch of people goingbut you know in our mind it's to
meet new people and you get onchat groups and things like that
and there's a number of peoplethat you You Talk to and want to
meet up with or whatever.
There was a couple where we hadmet her This summer purgatory in
(11:49):
Houston and she was there with abunch of girlfriends.
And so we started chatting andthen we wound up hanging out
with them any number of times.
And our good friends fromDallas, Texas.
But people told us you seesomebody you like and you find
that they're attractive, gettheir contact information.
Cause you're never going to seethem again.
Tramp (12:06):
Yeah.
With 6, 000 people on board,
Elle (12:08):
but we did.
We were so surprised that thepeople that we met that we
wanted to see again that, wealways seem to run into them at
least once a day.
So, that was pretty cool.
Jay (12:19):
And I need to give a shout out to our Dallas friends.
Because Elle's back was reallyhurting her on that last day.
She had to go lay down.
And they invited Mike and I andMiss S.
I hope you had a very good time.
I heard she did.
I think if anybody goes with anopen mind and just no baggage,
(12:41):
no drama, we're here to havefun, communicate with your
partner to make sure there's nomisunderstandings.
Oh my God, you're going to havethe best time ever.
Why wouldn't you?
You know,
Elle (12:51):
I mean, the goal wasn't to come away with some lifelong
friends.
But it happened.
Yeah, there was a couple inOrlando that we met on the first
night that we went to one of thepre parties we talked we got
along and they were interestingand then To what two days into
the cruise they invited us tohave dinner with them We had
dinner with them and then all ofa sudden every night at 530.
Hey, what are you guys doing fordinner?
(13:13):
Well, we didn't want to ask youguys because we didn't want to
overstay our welcome.
We're like, well, we really wantto spend more time with you and
wound up having days.
Yeah,
Jay (13:21):
absolutely.
When we met them at the hotellater that night, I went, wow,
they're the couple.
I really hope we can get to knowthem.
We didn't know it at the time.
They were saying the exact samething.
Elle (13:34):
Oh, yeah.
After that first night, afterdinner and, and.
Other things.
The next morning, I got up andI'm doing a search for, flights
to Orlando and they told us, oh,well, we were already looking
for flights to Denver.
So, they're actually coming outin a few weeks to spend some
time with us and she and I haveplans to go to New Orleans, just
(13:55):
her and I, watch out
Jay (13:56):
New Orleans.
Elle (13:57):
You
Tramp (13:58):
know, I think it's just a testament to.
Just the incredibly authenticpeople that you can find in the
lifestyle.
Elle (14:05):
Exactly.
Exactly.
Yeah.
I don't, think there was acouple we met that we went,
yeah, we didn't need to meetthem.
You know, there wasn't, therewas just really good people.
And, talking about, we weren'tdoing a comparison to other land
based lifestyle But thedifference between this and say
(14:29):
one of the resorts is at theresorts, people are coming and
going so you can meet a reallygreat couple and they're like,
well, we have to leave at 6 a.
m.
tomorrow morning because we haveto go catch a flight, right?
Or you can spend the whole weekgoing.
Wow, that's a lot of loud mouthdrunks and not really connect
with anybody.
But on a ship this size, youhave 6, 000 people.
(14:51):
You meet somebody and it's notclicking.
You turn around and meetsomebody else.
No harm, no foul.
You just move on.
And everybody just was so easyto get along with.
Jay (15:00):
And, it's, it's some of those chance encounters.
that really make for specialmoments.
If I may, just a quick story,Mike and I were running to, I
think change cause we had tomeet you and, and we get on the
elevator as just two of us andthen the door opens and an older
woman, little on the heavy side,she, gets onto the elevator
stands and then all of a suddenlooks up at both of us.
(15:23):
He's a pretty tall guy, and it'sjust like, oh my.
Well, I'm a smart aleck, and Ijust go, well, we hire her out
as a team.
And she looks at me and goes,really?
Like that.
And we're just laughing.
Bing! There's our floor.
Hold the door for her.
She gets off.
She starts turning every turnthat we're turning till we get
(15:43):
to his room.
She's going down the hallway,and I'm just like, give me one
second.
And I just run down the hall toher, and I'm like, sweetheart.
She turns around.
And I know no permission asked,but I just lean in, take her
cheeks, give her this beautifullittle soft kiss and went, you
have a great day.
And you just turn and walk away.
(16:04):
You're just sharing the joy, youknow, is how it works.
That's how I like to think of
Elle (16:09):
it.
You're good at that though.
You love to share love and joy.
Okay.
Tramp (16:15):
No, but I guarantee that you made her I'd like to think
so.
Elle (16:20):
Oh, I know if somebody, you know, did that to me, a
nice, tall, handsome gentleman,oh, thank
Jay (16:25):
you, babe.
Elle (16:25):
Followed me down the hallway.
No.
That's not.
Hmm.
But it just, you know, even justgetting on the elevator, you
don't know anybody on there.
It's a crowded elevator andthere are so many meet and
greets.
Like there's meet and greets forFrench people.
There's meet and greets for,people just starting in the
lifestyle.
There's meet and greets for,whatever you could possibly
(16:48):
think of.
So we get in the elevator andI'm like, Oh, welcome to my
elevator meet and greet, youknow, that was her line.
Jay (16:54):
And that got a chuckle.
My, my go to was.
I just want to warn all of you.
I'm not wearing underwear.
That's true That was enough tousually get the get the banter
started.
Elle (17:05):
Yeah,
Jay (17:05):
but you your joy moment was the very last night
Elle (17:09):
Yeah, I felt really good For most of the trip, but I have
some back issues and abouthalfway through the trip.
It really started playing havocon my play time and by the last
day You I was not comfortable.
Let's put it that way.
I was very uncomfortable, but wewere at a bar that was playing
(17:29):
the Latin music and we had allof our friends around us,
Jay (17:33):
all our new friends, all
Elle (17:35):
our new friends around us and found a seat at the bar and
I could just sit there andwatch, everybody dance or, you
know, someone would come up tome and put their arms around me
and just give me the kisses.
Other people would unzip mydress.
Yeah.
Okay.
Good.
You're going to go there.
I mean, they
Jay (17:52):
were making out boys, girls were all over you there.
And of course her sexy dress hada zipper right in the front.
So that kept going magicallydown to her navel and then boobs
out getting played with by boysand girls.
And you're just like sittingthere, like just enjoying
myself, the queen.
Elle (18:09):
And, and at the end of the night, they all walked me to my
room, which was.
It was a little challenging.
It was very uncomfortable bythen.
But I felt love and they madesure I got home safe.
I mean I'm surprised they didn'tundress me and put me to bed.
But, give me a little kiss on mynose.
But they did take care of me.
I felt loved.
And yeah, that was probably oneof my favorite moments.
(18:32):
Just sort of encapsulated thetrue love and Joy that I found
throughout the whole trip.
There you go.
Yeah, what was your high moment?
Well,
Jay (18:45):
it was that same night, and the reason, some of you have
probably figured out why wasn'tJay there to help Elle back into
her room.
There was an absolutely adorablecouple, so classy, so cute.
And they basically asked if Icould be their third for an MFM.
They had never experienced that.
(19:07):
And Always
Elle (19:08):
accommodating.
Jay (19:09):
Yes.
Yes.
Thank you.
Elle was very nice to say, yougo play, go, go, go show them a
good time.
Thank you.
I have the best wife ever.
And it was, it was really sweet.
We just, we had a great time andshe was nervous and giggly, but
I think I helped them have areally nice, memorable, it was
(19:30):
their last night.
It was everybody's last night.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Caution to the wind kind ofthing, I guess.
Elle (19:36):
Yeah.
Tramp (19:37):
It's like that with normal takeovers as well as I've
experienced where sometimesearlier in the week, things can
be a little slow and then thingsreally ramp up the last two
nights.
Typically.
Jay (19:53):
That makes perfect sense.
Elle (19:55):
Yeah.
Yeah.
Cause everyone's comfortable.
And then you have that feelingof, Oh shoot, this is ending.
Yeah.
Low.
Yeah.
Yeah, exactly.
Exactly.
Tramp (20:04):
Now, one question I have is obviously that this is, was a
mainline cruise line.
It was, it was fully charteredof course.
How did the onboard staff do,because as we know, as lifestyle
folks, particularly in theevenings and the alcohol is
flowing and as I understand it,the ships are not completely
(20:26):
clothing optional.
You can't walk through thecorridors and elevators and etc.
Elle (20:31):
No, really just at the pool.
Or I think we could walk aroundtopless if it was part of the
costume or something.
But they, you know, youdefinitely couldn't, if you went
to dinner and you had a skimpyoutfit on, they would give you a
towel to sit on.
So we had friends and hersuperhero was a bikini and they
asked her to wrap a towel aroundher and her option was, well,
(20:53):
maybe I just don't need to eattonight, but I, I would have
been fine.
If my skirt was a little shortor something and you want me to
sit on a towel, I'm okay withthat.
But as far as the staff goes.
They were outstanding, theseguys know what's coming, this is
a bunch of lifestylers are gonnaget crazy You're gonna see some
stuff that you don't normallysee on a cruise, but our steward
(21:16):
could toot was Amazing and everyday he's changing out the rooms
and cleaning them up and makingthe beds and everything but Not
our room but Like catering towhatever we needed, it's like,
there wasn't an ice machine togo to, so we would really like
(21:36):
two things of ice a day.
And that was always there.
And every time he would be inanother room, and we'd walk by,
he'd look up, and call us byname, and ask how we're doing,
is there anything that we need.
And we were just blown away bythe, care.
And that is what I heard fromeverybody.
Jay (21:53):
You
Elle (21:53):
know, so it didn't, he wasn't special, but he was
special to us.
So, yeah.
Jay (21:57):
That's a great way to say it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Tramp (22:00):
I would venture to say that the staff, I'm sure the
cruise line gives them an optionsaying, Oh, sure.
This is what's coming.
You know, you don't feelcomfortable, opt out, opt out,
but I'm pretty certain noknowing lifestyle folks and we
take care of people I'm prettysure there's some folks that
(22:20):
say.
That's my favorite week of theyear.
Elle (22:23):
I could
Jay (22:23):
see that.
And he's responsible for what?
That, that corridor, 12, 12, 15,16 rooms.
And if everybody just throw thisnumber out, if everybody tipped
him a thousand dollars at theend of one week.
He's making some good.
He's doing all right forhimself, you know, so, but they
were all, I mean, the, even thedinner staff, even the, the
(22:47):
buffet people, we didn't runinto anybody that was difficult
or not immediately attentive.
Elle (22:54):
No, and we weren't surprised, with having a drink,
all you can drink drink package.
I think we thought we would seea lot more.
sloppy drunks than we didgranted we probably called it a
night a little earlier than somepeople but i was up till yeah oh
that's right i was not
Jay (23:13):
a few times
Elle (23:13):
yeah did you see sloppy drunks out on your tours
Jay (23:16):
only two that we kind of know yeah i literally was at 2
30 and i'm walking through themezzanine i look oh There's my
friends walk over and they'retrapped.
That's true They were sotrapped.
So I sat there and talked until3 a.
m And i'm like guys, I've got togo to bed and you really should
(23:37):
too Yeah, you're gonna be hatingtomorrow So yeah, absolutely.
We signed up as soon as we couldfor next year And I think this
is our jam from now movingforward.
Elle (23:49):
I can see why people reserve for the next two years.
We obviously didn't get it forthis next year, but we're on the
wait list.
And then we're definitely goingto sign up for 2026 because next
this coming year 2025 is asmaller boat again, but 2026 it
goes back to the symphony of theseas and it's 6, 000 people.
Jay (24:09):
It's a big boat.
It looks down on every boat wewere in port with.
Oh yeah.
Elle (24:14):
So I mean, not, you know, not, Figuratively like it that
they're lesser votes physically.
Jay (24:20):
Oh my God.
Tramp (24:24):
Sorry.
Is there anything else that youguys wanted to
Jay (24:29):
know?
Elle (24:30):
Actually, I mean,
Jay (24:31):
I mean, you know some people over pack no matter where
you go.
Elle (24:34):
Why are you looking at me?
Jay (24:35):
But, but you know, to where I took my tux.
for and she had a ballgown for,for formal night, formal night.
Thank you.
And then you got your costumes,whether it's superhero stuff or
back to school.
Elle (24:50):
Oh yeah.
That was
Jay (24:51):
fun for us.
God,
Elle (24:52):
that was fun.
So back to school, he was aTruant young lad, and I was a
counselor, school counselor, andthen we had met some, some
people from Australia and we'reon the elevator with them and
the other people are commentingand, discussed who Jay was and
who I was.
And then Jay looked at ourfriends from Australia and said,
Jay (25:14):
These are our foreign exchange students.
Elle (25:17):
It was awesome! Because they hadn't really dressed up.
Jay (25:21):
And we had a really fun little evening.
Elle (25:24):
Oh yeah, we had a fun night with them too.
Jay (25:26):
They were very energetic.
It's so great to be with peoplein bed who are energetic.
Who are fun.
Who know what they want.
They know how to use theirwords.
They know What they like andjust to have that kind of fun.
The most we had was what threecouples or four in
Elle (25:44):
one
Jay (25:45):
room.
It was
Elle (25:46):
that three couple room,
Jay (25:49):
right?
Yeah.
There's supposed to be four,
Elle (25:51):
right?
One couple didn't couldn't makeit.
So it was three, wait, one, two,three of us.
Yeah.
Three couples.
Jay (25:57):
And that may not be everybody's jam, but when,
people click and there's sexualattraction and you just, you can
sit across the room, take abreak and watch
Elle (26:06):
all the things
Jay (26:08):
happening.
And it is fun.
Elle (26:10):
Yeah, it is
Jay (26:10):
fun.
Yeah.
It's not like they're going tobelieve you if you told them
back at work on Monday.
Tramp (26:19):
Well, fantastic guys.
Thank you for, sharing all ofthat knowledge and experience.
Jay (26:24):
Thank you, buddy.
Tramp (26:25):
So guys, we do not have an AMA this week, the Tramp is
going to do a little on the flyAMA for you guys.
Elle (26:34):
Hmm.
Tramp (26:35):
And, this'll be, easy.
Yeah.
Ask, ask me anything.
Jay (26:40):
Okay.
No, no.
Don't look so terrified.
No, it's no,
Tramp (26:46):
nothing terrifying about it, Jay.
Jay (26:48):
You can ask anything, you know that.
Yeah, oh,
Tramp (26:50):
I know.
No, no, no.
What was your favorite sexyexperience on the Bliss Cruise?
Each one of you guysindividually.
Elle (26:59):
Okay, for me, I would say it was when we were with single
guy Mike.
Jay had met him the night beforeand really hit it off and told
me about him and was bringinghim to the room and I'm like,
okay, and Jay went and took ashower and I was sitting on the
bed and when Mike came in and westarted talking and then next
(27:23):
thing I know my legs on his legand next thing I know I'm
sitting in his lap and nextthing I know we're making out.
Yes, I walk out of the shower
Jay (27:31):
and go, Well, that certainly escalated quickly.
I
Elle (27:34):
think he was in the shower for maybe two minutes.
So, it really did.
But he had such a warm and justenveloping energy about him.
And we hit it off.
And, and that was just such afree afternoon of play and fun
and laughing.
And, yeah, I really, enjoyedthat time with the two of them.
(27:57):
That's awesome.
Jay (27:58):
Yeah, that was a good time.
Most definitely for me.
As much as I want to say beingtheir first MFM, I'm going to go
back to our Dallas friends.
They were just so fun.
And Mike and I just theywelcomed us in and we just had
the best.
(28:19):
It was it was a lot of fun.
Elle (28:21):
So
Jay (28:24):
That's my, that's my story.
I'm sticking to it.
Elle (28:26):
All right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It was, it was good.
It was good.
Sexy fun.
That whole now,
Jay (28:31):
and some couples are different than us.
I mean, this was an exceptionfor us to play solo on occasion,
Elle (28:38):
right.
Jay (28:38):
You know actually you didn't, although you, you could
have.
Elle (28:42):
I could have, no, I could have your
Jay (28:44):
new girlfriend.
I give, okay, I'm out of theroom for the next three hours.
You two beautiful, sexy ladieshave a great time.
And of course, gentlemen, youknow what that means.
They sat on the bed and talkedthe whole time.
Elle (28:57):
Well, we'll make up for it when we go to Nola.
But but you know, the, we'vegotten to the point after five
years of being in the lifestylethat.
And we talk about a lot andthings still come up sometimes
that we go, Oh, well we nevertalked about that.
And that may not be something wewant to do.
But I trusted him and he knows,pretty much as if it's somebody
(29:19):
I know and feel comfortablewith.
And I didn't want my back tocause issues and it caused him
to not have a good time.
Now, if I had said, Jay, I wantto go to bed and I want you
there with me.
That's one thing.
But if I'm going to go to bedand take some muscle relaxers
and be out, there's no reason heshouldn't go and have a good
(29:40):
time.
And so I was best
Jay (29:43):
wife.
Elle (29:47):
Yeah, I was really okay with it.
And sometimes when that happens,you feel awkward and
uncomfortable and I don't thinkyou did because you found your
people.
Jay (29:57):
Oh yeah.
All these people, all of them,everybody out there in radio
land.
Yes.
Such great people.
Yeah.
Even those we never got a chanceto play with and
Elle (30:08):
people that wanted
Jay (30:08):
to, wanted to play with us and like, Oh my God, there you
guys are.
We were looking for you.
Blah, blah, blah, blah.
You're just like, we're righthere.
Here's our room number.
Not much more I can do on thatsubject.
So, well,
Tramp (30:22):
fantastic guys.
Thank you so much for sharing.
And for you listeners, if youhave questions or comments, feel
free just to reach out atunapologetic swingers at gmail.
com.
Feel free to visit our website.
You'll find a link for theshivers on there.
And wherever you're listening,just drop us a review that out
of everything that's going tohelp us the most.
(30:45):
Just get the word out andhopefully get a couple more
listeners on the podcast.
And I also do need some ask usanything questions guys, so
please, please, I'm begginghere.
Elle (30:56):
Are you tired of us already?
Tramp (30:58):
Not at all.
Not at all.
So guys, the next episode willbe kind of a to be determined.
Expect that here in a coupleweeks and we're just going to
keep on carrying on.
We have some interestingpotential topics here in the
pipeline, so I'm very excitedabout that.
Elle (31:17):
Well, until next time, I'm Elle.
And I'm the Tramp.
Be sexy.
Be confident.
Be unapologetic.
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