July 18, 2024 • 36 mins
We were reminiscing about some of our early dirty vanilla adventures and we couldn't believe this one got skipped in what should have been the first couple episodes. Especially when you're brand new to the whole lifestyle arena and pushing your early boundaries - you know sexy times are bound to ensue!
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Lady (00:05):
Welcome back to Unapologetic Swingers.
I'm Lady.
Tramp (00:09):
And I'm the Tramp.
And guys, we've been away forjust a little bit and we so
appreciate your patience andyour emails.
We've just had a lot of irons inthe fire.
This summer has been busy.
Lady (00:21):
Good busy.
Tramp (00:22):
Busy in a good way, but we were away a little bit longer
than what we anticipated.
So please forgive us.
Lady (00:29):
Yeah
Tramp (00:30):
And if this is your first time listening to us, we are
Lady and the Tramp and this isthe Unapologetic Swinger podcast
and we're really justchronicling our journey through
the lifestyle.
And if you haven't had a chance,I would highly recommend going
back to episode one and seeinghow far we've come
Lady (00:53):
Please go back and listen.
Most of our episodes are inchronological order, but some of
them kind of Go off script toreal time because we have some
fun adventures.
Tramp (01:06):
Yes.
Well, those are the bonusepisodes, but today we're going
way back to the memory bankslady and I were kind of
reminiscing the other week aboutanything that we may have missed
so far.
And one thing that neither of uscould believe we glazed over was
(01:27):
what we want to call our Floridaadventure.
Lady (01:30):
And this is episode number nine.
This
Tramp (01:33):
is episode number nine.
Lady (01:34):
All right.
I like Florida adventures.
Tramp (01:37):
And for those regular listeners, this would have
actually happened pre Braziliannumber one.
Lady (01:45):
Oh yeah.
So we were bitty, bitty.
In, the lifestyle journey,
Tramp (01:52):
basically dirty vanillas at this point.
Lady (01:53):
Yeah.
We were taking our baby steps,
Tramp (01:56):
But we have some great friends in the Tampa area and we
had to go out and visit them.
And we also had some business totake care of in Orlando.
So lady and I decided to take aday for ourselves and there's a
resort, I guess you could callit, just north of Tampa called
(02:20):
Caliente.
Lady (02:21):
He says it's a resort but earlier said, oh it's a
retirement community.
Oh, okay.
Cool place though.
Tramp (02:34):
It is, but it really is a retirement community.
You can actually buy a housethere if you want to.
And it's a gated community.
They have a checkpoint andeverything and secure to that
respect.
But once you get in, what wequickly discovered just on the
drive up to the clubhouse wasthe whole area is clothing
(02:56):
optional.
Lady (02:58):
The whole area outside of the resort.
Tramp (03:03):
Right outside of the clubhouse in the pool area, et
cetera.
we discovered this I believe wehad just parked and a couple
rolls up on a golf cart, notunusual in a retirement
community, but they were nude.
Lady (03:21):
It was so interesting to see because I was like, wait,
what's happening?
Tramp (03:28):
And they hop out and go into the clubhouse just like
it's nothing.
Yeah.
It's just another day.
Lady (03:33):
Yeah.
A very normal day, which I waslike, all right, this is kind of
cool.
Cool.
Tramp (03:42):
You hear about what is the big retirement community in
Florida?
Lady (03:48):
Oh my gosh.
I just saw something about itthe other day and I know what
you're talking about.
It's
Tramp (03:52):
massive.
It's, it's tens of thousands ofpeople.
Lady (03:55):
Yeah.
It's usually on the news, butnot for.
Good things.
Tramp (04:00):
Well, and it could be a, just a, a rumor or an urban
legend, how people tie the, soapparently the lifestyle
community is quite strong thereand how people tie different
colors of loofahs the, the bathscrubbies to their golf carts,
depending on what style of.
(04:21):
Swinger.
They are
Lady (04:22):
really, I haven't heard of this.
So it's like how in ourcommunity, there's white rocks
in the front yard, which meansyou're a swinger,
Tramp (04:34):
right?
The, all the common stuff, allthe pineapple paraphernalia, on
the doormat or on the housesomewhere, the white rocks or
the pink flamingos.
So I've heard
Lady (04:43):
the loop is different.
Tramp (04:46):
But anyway, we digress.
This is a full fledgedretirement community though.
And as we entered, you gothrough the clubhouse and they
have this massive pool complexand there's a band playing and a
lot of people, but they'repretty spread out.
Lady (05:05):
Yeah.
And you know, that area wherethe band was, was really cool
because they had like this, theback end of it was all rocks,
like that wall was all rocks.
And then they had a waterfall.
Then you go up the rocks wherethe waterfall is.
And then there's the hot tub upthere.
(05:27):
Yeah.
They call it a
Tramp (05:27):
conversation tub, but I think it becomes a lot more, not
so much conversation after dark.
Lady (05:33):
Right.
Well, yes, that's what you want.
And then it was almost like alazy river that they had at the
back end of the pool.
And then they had another poolwhere it was just more relaxed
pool.
Tramp (05:49):
I think one was heated because in the winter in
Florida, it does get chilly.
Okay.
Lady (05:55):
Okay.
Tramp (05:55):
So I think the large one was, that we were in, it was a
little cooler because this wasMay or June?
Lady (06:03):
June.
Beginning of June.
Tramp (06:04):
Okay.
So I think the big main poolpotentially was unheated and it
was, it wasn't cold, but it wasnoticeably cooler than the
other, the smaller pool.
Lady (06:14):
Yeah.
It was really nice though.
Yeah.
Tramp (06:18):
And what we found very quickly is, I don't know if it
was because of our youthcompared to the average age.
Lady (06:27):
I was gonna say we're not that young.
Or we're not retirement age
Tramp (06:32):
either.
Lady (06:33):
No.
Tramp (06:34):
Or the fact that we were wide eyed newbies.
Lady (06:37):
Right.
Tramp (06:38):
But we attracted some attention from, I would assume
it's the regulars, from thelocals if you will.
Lady (06:45):
Probably.
Yeah.
And they were quite older.
Tramp (06:49):
Oh, yes.
And they took a shining to Lady.
Lady (06:56):
All the older men, they were so cute.
Tramp (06:58):
They, they, they were very respectful.
Lady (07:01):
Yeah.
Tramp (07:02):
And yeah, you got a lot of compliments because just as
Lady had discovered on ourprevious visits to Desire, she
loves to be nude.
So we had no problem completelystripping down and just getting
in the pool and getting a drinkand kind of wandering around and
seeing what there is to see.
Lady (07:23):
Yeah, it was fun.
They had a really great band.
And when we first got there,there wasn't a lot of people.
But I would say as the hourpassed, that place was so
packed.
Tramp (07:41):
I think we got there just before noon.
I want to say,
Lady (07:44):
yeah, but there were so many people.
I mean, you looked around andthere were people sitting on the
tables.
There were people under thewaterfall, you know, sitting on
the rocks, which was a coollittle area.
Tramp (07:57):
And people just sunbathing all around.
This was truly a massive pool.
Lady (08:01):
Yeah.
So there was, there was a lot ofpeople around.
Tramp (08:06):
And one thing that was a first for me is we came across
this one lady who, who had her,her back to us.
And at least from a distance,she looked younger and she was,
and then she turned around andshe had a penis.
Lady (08:27):
Oh, yes.
Oh my gosh.
She was so pretty too.
I, I had never seen that before.
Tramp (08:37):
I had not either.
Yeah.
And I don't know if I've seen.
No, I have seen it since.
Lady (08:43):
Yeah.
Very unexpected, but I mean,gorgeous.
Tramp (08:48):
And I believe she was a local because everyone seemed to
know her and accept her just howshe is.
And frankly, that's prettyawesome.
Lady (08:56):
Yeah, no, I, I agree.
Yeah, very unexpected.
But yeah, she was, she wasgorgeous.
I was like, Oh my gosh.
Tramp (09:05):
But getting back to the attention that we received, we
met a lot of really cool peoplethat afternoon.
And they had a lot of awesomestories, but ultimately what we
found is, especially the women,were very forward.
(09:25):
They had no fucks to give inessence.
Lady (09:28):
I think it's a play on women can get away with a lot
more than men.
And as you get older, you startto not give any fucks.
And you're just like, I'm justgoing to do whatever I want.
If I am filling this right now,I'm going to go for it.
(09:52):
And I don't really care.
And I think you see that a lotmore in the older generation.
Tramp (10:00):
Very true.
Lady (10:01):
Yeah, because they were just, even though the men had a
taking to me, they were veryrespectful and, we just talked.
Tramp (10:11):
Yeah, they may have attempted to touch or like, like
just like a, No.
Hand on, you don't think even,
Lady (10:18):
No, not at all.
Tramp (10:20):
Hmm.
Lady (10:21):
But the women were like, straight up, Swimming up to you
and wrapping their legs aroundyou.
And I was like, Oh, okay, herewe go.
Well, what's what?
I was
Tramp (10:33):
really just kind of sitting back and watching that
whole thing unfold there.
There was this very slight Asianlady and this gal had to be
under five feet easily just.
Tiny little thing, but she tooka shining to lady and as we were
talking you were either, you mayhave been going or coming from
(10:56):
the bathroom.
And I think she just hopped onyour back and you guys were
walking through the pool.
Lady (11:01):
Yeah.
I mean, we went to the bathroomtogether and, we came back and
she just hopped on my back andkind of had her on my back
through the pool and walking.
And yeah, I'm pretty sure shewanted.
A lot more,
Tramp (11:16):
Who would let's, let's be true.
Lady (11:19):
She was cute.
Tramp (11:22):
Did, she get handsy at all?
When she had her, like, sheobviously had her legs around
you, but her arms and hands hadto go somewhere.
Lady (11:27):
Oh yeah, definitely.
Yes.
Tramp (11:32):
And then there was this other couple.
I don't recall his name.
But her name was Barbie.
Lady (11:41):
Yes.
Tramp (11:42):
And she looked like a Barbie.
Lady (11:44):
She did.
They had to have been what intheir seventies?
Tramp (11:47):
Sixty, late sixties, seventies, maybe.
Yeah.
Lady (11:49):
Yeah.
Yeah.
Very nice couple.
Tramp (11:52):
Very nice couple.
But yeah, just massive boobs.
Lady (11:55):
Yes.
Tramp (11:57):
She had
Lady (11:57):
that Barbie figure.
Tramp (11:58):
She did.
Lady (11:59):
Yeah.
Tramp (11:59):
She did.
And the blonde
Lady (12:01):
hair and the makeup, like all of it.
Tramp (12:04):
The whole nine yards.
Yes.
And I just shared this with alady recently, because we were
so early in our journey.
I believe you had been talkingto the mister and I was talking
with her and she posed aquestion to me.
(12:25):
She said, Hey, do you likepiercings?
And I'm thinking.
Yeah, I've, I've seen piercednipples.
I really love the way they lookand, and then she, further
asked, what about a piercedpussy?
And I could honestly say, Idon't know.
(12:46):
Other than in a video, I'venever seen one.
So she took my hand and.
put a palm up just right againsther pushy, which I found out was
pierced.
At that moment, I didn't quiteknow what to do.
I was just kind of
Lady (13:07):
newbie, right?
Yeah.
I, I kind of froze
Tramp (13:10):
and stuck and, and then we went back to casual
conversation and that was it.
But that was just such anunexpected encounter.
And now I think I would rollwith it a lot easier given our
experience and everything we'veseen.
But at that point I was just
Lady (13:30):
So you would roll with it with somebody of that statue and
that vintage?
Tramp (13:38):
Maybe not that, but I'm talking about the general.
Lady (13:42):
You wouldn't have just froze.
Tramp (13:43):
Correct.
Aw,
Lady (13:48):
aw.
Tramp (13:49):
I know, I know.
And part of me didn't know howyou would react.
You know, we were so new thatyou may be like, what the hell,
babe?
Why?
Why did you do that?
I'm like, I, my gut reactionwould've been I didn't.
It's not that I didn't have achoice.
I didn't know what's happeninguntil it was too late,
Lady (14:07):
right?
It's like oh she kissed me.
I didn't know
Tramp (14:14):
But the locals that we met were very sad that we had to
leave when we did because Ithink the party, the daytime is
a social time and the nighttimeis more the party time.
If you get my drift.
Lady (14:27):
Yeah.
And you know, you, you go insideto the clubhouse and you go
downstairs and there's lockerrooms and showers, and then
there's like the whole areawhere they're partying.
Tramp (14:42):
Yeah.
I think there's a restaurant inthere or some kind of cafe.
Okay.
And this was several years ago.
So bear with us if it's notexactly, but they were just
starting up karaoke.
Lady (14:53):
Yeah.
Tramp (14:53):
That was the, attraction for the evening, or maybe it's a
normal everyday thing.
I truly don't know.
Lady (14:58):
Didn't we see Barbie downstairs and she had changed
into something.
Tramp (15:03):
You're right.
Lady (15:04):
A really cute dress that was like, I don't know.
Glitter and
Tramp (15:10):
right.
It was, it was probably allsparkly.
Yeah, it was
Lady (15:13):
all sparkly.
And I was like, Oh my gosh, youlook so cute.
Yeah.
Tramp (15:18):
But we showered off and I think we got a little frisky in
the shower.
Lady (15:22):
That was a big shower.
Tramp (15:23):
It was a big shower.
It fit both of us.
Cause we just wanted to rinseoff the salt water before we hit
the road to Orlando.
And I know a couple people passby as, as we were playing
amongst ourselves and got a goodlook.
I think they enjoyed that.
Lady (15:38):
Yeah, of course they did.
Tramp (15:41):
And I think the most incredible part of the story is
yet to come.
when you're in those kinds ofenvironments and the sexual dial
is turned up.
You can't help but kind of getsucked into it, I think,
especially when you've been,having a couple cocktails over
(16:02):
the course of an afternoon andin the sun.
And so as we got on the road toOrlando,
Lady (16:12):
Which was quite the drive.
That was,
Tramp (16:15):
it was at least an hour and a half, if not two hours.
I don't recall exactly, but itwasn't just a quick 30 minute
drive up the road.
Lady (16:22):
And this was after we were in the pool for a couple hours
and in the sun and yeah, then itwas like, okay, we gotta get on
the road
Tramp (16:31):
and then some light play in the shower and we get dressed
and hop on the road.
And I think Lady and I juststarted talking and getting
turned on just by talking aboutthe afternoon and everything
that I don't know what sparkedit, but you started to play with
yourself in the passenger seatas we're whipping down the
(16:53):
interstate.
Lady (16:55):
You enjoyed it.
Tramp (16:56):
Oh, I, I, it was hard to keep my eyes on the road.
Lady (17:00):
You're like, how am I supposed to do this?
Like, I can't, I can't multitaskthis way.
And
Tramp (17:05):
anybody who's driven in Florida knows between the young
people who drive like demons andthe old people who drive like
turtles.
Lady (17:13):
Good way to, you, you
Tramp (17:15):
have to be on top of your game.
on Florida interstates.
Lady (17:20):
Yes, at all times.
Tramp (17:23):
But yet I couldn't help but look down and watch ladies
fingers, you know, just playwith that pretty little pussy.
Lady (17:29):
Yeah, that was fun.
Tramp (17:32):
But you got so worked up knowing me even at that point, I
probably started talking dirtyto you.
Lady (17:38):
Probably.
And just, you wanted to makesure I didn't stop.
Tramp (17:44):
Well, obviously not until you are satisfied,
Lady (17:50):
of course,
Tramp (17:51):
but you just kept going and getting more worked up and I
was trying like hell just tokeep us on the road.
Lady (18:00):
Yeah.
Well, I was just so turned onand I think we had just a great
day.
Like it was just so fun andwe're like, what is this?
This was.
It's fun and it's great peopleand then the shower, then it was
like, Oh, I'm really wet.
Tramp (18:19):
Yes, you were.
Lady (18:20):
I want to, I want to keep going, but we got places to be,
so we can't stop, but let's havesome fun anyway.
Tramp (18:28):
Yeah, we were on a timeline.
We had to be somewhere at acertain point there's no way we
could pull over real quick for aquickie.
Lady (18:35):
No, which needed a little bit more.
fun and I don't know, justexciting.
Tramp (18:44):
I agree.
And a little bit of a dangerelement because you never know
who may be in a taller vehicleas we went by just looking down,
watching you play.
Lady (18:54):
Maybe it reminds you of one of our first road trips
together where we're drivingdown, you're driving in the back
road.
And I'm like, I just.
Pull your pants and start givingyou a blow job.
And you're like, wait, wait,what?
Tramp (19:14):
Oh, that was fucking amazing.
I'm
Lady (19:16):
like, just keep your eye on the road.
Don't just, don't just keep youreye on the road.
I got this.
Tramp (19:22):
Yeah, with that blow job, you went the distance and I came
hard and
Lady (19:28):
I always go the distance.
And
Tramp (19:32):
I'm, I'm quite frankly amazed that I didn't run that
car off the road.
Lady (19:39):
I agree, but anyway, but
Tramp (19:41):
back to Florida by the same token, you just kept going
and going and going.
until you came incredibly hard.
Lady (19:52):
Yeah, but you reached over and helped.
Tramp (19:54):
What was I doing?
Lady (19:56):
Well, I needed a little bit of help and you kind of just
took your right hand and I thinkyou just started playing with my
clit and it was hard and fastand I was just so turned on at
the time and oh my god squirtedeverywhere.
(20:17):
Yeah,
Tramp (20:17):
you didn't just come you
Lady (20:19):
this was a rental car.
Tramp (20:21):
Actually I'm glad it was a rental car and not one of our
friends vehicles.
Lady (20:25):
Yeah.
I mean, you know, leave thempresents.
It's fine.
Like a thank you gift.
Tramp (20:32):
But yeah, that seat was drenched That car will never be
the same.
Lady (20:38):
Yes, if that's what you want to call it.
Tramp (20:41):
It's so hot when you get turned on to such an extreme and
that happens.
I mean, since we've learned somenew tricks.
Lady (20:49):
Yeah, we have.
Tramp (20:50):
But I love it.
When you come so hard that yousquirt.
Lady (20:55):
Yeah, that that seat was I'm sure they got the car back
and we're like, Did they, Idon't know, clean the inside,
like clean it from inside out?
Like what happened?
Run it through the carwash withthe windows down?
What did they do?
Spill water?
(21:15):
Yeah, you never know.
Tramp (21:16):
Yeah.
A very wet bathing suit.
Lady (21:18):
Would have been great to have just a video camera in
there where somebody just gotthe car back and we're like,
what happened in here?
Tramp (21:26):
Well, the unfortunate reality also is we still had not
only time to our destination inOrlando, now with a soaked seat,
but also after dinner The rideback to the Tampa area with a
equally wexed seat.
Lady (21:48):
I'm surprised I didn't just get in the back and be
like, all right, Uber, taxi,take me home.
I'm happy.
And I came hard.
Oh
Tramp (21:58):
yes, you did.
Lady (21:59):
Very hard.
All right.
Tramp (22:03):
But guys that pretty much wraps up that unapologetic story
and hopefully you enjoyed it asmuch as we enjoyed living it.
Lady (22:13):
That's probably one of our favorite stories.
Tramp (22:17):
And I can't believe we missed it in the chronological
order.
Lady (22:20):
Yeah, that's fine.
It's like bonus, bonus, bonus,even though it's episode nine.
Enjoy.
You can just imagine.
The finger to my clit in thecar.
Tramp (22:34):
Mm-Hmm.
Lady (22:34):
on the passenger side, driving down the highway.
People might be passing, wemight be passing people.
Yeah.
Good times.
Tramp (22:44):
Good times, And before we get into the unapologetic
honesty, we're gonna pause realquick here and talk about one of
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Lady (22:58):
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Always so excited to tell youabout shivers.
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Tramp (23:09):
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Lady (23:31):
I totally agree with that.
It truly does send thosewonderful shivers down your
spine.
I mean, it's just amazing.
And it doesn't end there.
Not only is my pleasureincreased, but the next day I
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Tramp (23:49):
Mm hmm.
In most situations, I reallybelieve that this is going to
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I am just as relaxed as if I'vehad multiple drinks and
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Lady (24:10):
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Now, as we get on to theunapologetic honesty, I think
Lady has a different take onthis than I do.
(24:58):
When I was writing the shownotes, I pretty much said my
takeaway was that olderlifestyle folks can sense fresh
meat and they just have no fucksto give, so they just go for it.
But you said somethingDifferent.
You phrased it differently.
(25:20):
Not that they don't have anyfucks to give, but I'm trying to
remember exactly what you said.
Lady (25:27):
Oh, my gosh if I said that 10 minutes ago, I don't remember
what I said.
I think I need shivers.
I'll be right back.
Hold on.
Serious.
I will be right back.
I am gonna take shivers tonightso I can sleep just FYI.
(25:48):
I don't remember what I said.
Tramp (25:52):
I think that you said that it's not necessarily the
age, but the experience.
And as you gain experience, youyou can sense when other people
are experienced in the lifestyleand they may not have the
trepidation or I guess you callit the baggage of the holdups.
(26:15):
Whereas people that you knowimmediately, it's like, yeah,
they know their shit.
You can just be yourself.
You don't have to worry aboutstepping on toes necessarily.
Lady (26:23):
Yeah.
Well, yeah, it definitely comeswith, you know, experience.
And that comes with wisdom and,what you're comfortable with and
what you've been through andwhat's okay and what's not okay.
Tramp (26:36):
And how you communicate it.
Lady (26:37):
And yeah, yes.
Communication always.
That's, I know our big talkingpoint is communication.
But yeah, I mean you have onhere, all lifestyle folks can
sense fresh meat.
And yeah, I think for us at thatpoint, we had no clue.
(27:01):
No,
Tramp (27:01):
we were dirty vanilla as we'd been to desire a couple of
times.
And that was the extent of it.
Lady (27:06):
Just dipping our toes into the water.
So, but I do have to say this,even though they 99 percent knew
that we were new.
They were so welcoming and sonice and so kind and willing
(27:28):
just to talk and talk aboutwhatever, shoot the shit.
And That is still today.
What I love about this communityis that is what you get.
Tramp (27:40):
I have to agree with that completely.
My love.
Yeah.
All right.
And onto our ask us anythingsegment.
And these come from our friendsJ and L and they ask, this is
geared for lady.
Actually, how do you deal withan overly aggressive woman?
One that grabs your butt orboobs without warning or
(28:04):
permission?
Lady (28:07):
You know, I think this type of person is always going
to exist, unfortunately, andit's up to us on how we react,
right?
I don't think this is okay atall, but your reaction also
(28:29):
speaks a lot to you because thisalso speaks to their character.
Which to me says they have apretty shitty character, but we
can only control us.
We can't control other people.
So for me, if someone grabbed mybutt, I would definitely let
them know, Hey, that's not okay.
(28:51):
I didn't say that was okay.
And it's just having aconversation and addressing it
in a nice way.
Tramp (28:59):
Mm hmm.
Lady (29:01):
I can only.
control my actions andreactions.
And you kind of hope that theyrespect that and understand it.
I would say 99 percent of peoplein the lifestyle understand
those rules because they've beento events or they have friends
who have been to events.
They have either been to aresort like Desire.
(29:25):
Or they have friends that havebeen to a resort and there's
rules that are given to you atall of these places.
And you should always respectthose rules, but yeah, you're
going to have stupid people.
Tramp (29:40):
I think you brought up something very relevant earlier
in the fact that Generallyspeaking, women can get away
with a lot more than men.
If you were to reverse thesexes, it would not go over
well, generally speaking.
Lady (29:58):
Right.
Tramp (29:59):
There's a difference with being, I just want to say,
playfully aggressive, which Iknow is one of your weaknesses.
But Not aggressive to the pointthat J and L are mentioning here
where it's completely, it's notlike they come up to you and get
(30:22):
a little handsy.
This is
Lady (30:23):
overly aggressive.
Tramp (30:24):
Yes, overly aggressive.
Lady (30:25):
That's not okay.
But you're going to have overlyaggressive.
You're not going to have, youknow, like the Barbies where
they're playful and they'reolder and they, have a lot of
experience and they kind ofknow, I think where to push the
button and where not to
Tramp (30:47):
the natural limits.
Lady (30:48):
Yeah.
And then you're going to havethose overly aggressive women.
Tramp (30:53):
Yeah.
And really that's just aturnoff.
At least I think so.
Lady (30:59):
Yeah.
I would have to agree.
I think there's a little bit ofa line where it's It's cute.
And you're like, Oh, you know,they're into me.
And then you have the, yeah, no,I don't want to be touched.
It's like, this is not okay.
This
Tramp (31:17):
attention is not welcome.
Lady (31:18):
Yeah.
And again, it's saying it in anice, positive way because maybe
they're in a space that theydon't know that they're in.
And that's why I go back to, youcan't control other people.
You can only control you and bestraightforward right away with,
(31:38):
Hey, this is my boundary becauseeverybody has boundaries in this
lifestyle, no matter if you haveno boundaries, that that's a
boundary.
So yeah, it's just addressing itright away as nice as you can.
But.
As clear as you can,
Tramp (31:59):
I think the clarity is the key.
Lady (32:01):
Yeah.
And it's okay to do that.
Definitely boundaries
Tramp (32:05):
and rules is of course.
Okay.
Lady (32:08):
Yeah.
And knowing what your rules andboundaries are and being okay
with same, this is, this is notokay.
Tramp (32:18):
I would go a step further and say, don't allow others to
set your boundaries.
You set your boundaries.
Lady (32:25):
Yep, absolutely
Tramp (32:28):
So hopefully that helps answer your question guys.
Lady (32:31):
Yeah, and I don't think you'll come Across this type of
person very often.
Tramp (32:38):
No, but it is a hazard of the lifestyle it happens.
Yeah And we've come across menwho are the same way, to be
honest, but by the same token,just like I mentioned earlier,
women can get away with a lotmore generally speaking than
men.
So that's why I think the, thefeminine side in this equation
is a lot more prevalent.
Lady (33:00):
Agree.
Tramp (33:02):
And guys, we want to make one announcement.
We are going on a trip.
Lady (33:08):
Oh, we are?
Tramp (33:09):
We are.
Where are we going?
So this is not one that we aresponsoring, but we do know that
they only have a couple roomsleft.
And this is the PineappleFitness Takeover of Desire RM.
Lady (33:23):
In November.
Tramp (33:24):
In November.
It is, the official dates Ibelieve are November 11th to the
16th.
And I know from communicationswith a couple other podcasters,
friends with a twist, they aregoing to be there as well, or at
least half of friends with atwist.
Lady (33:43):
Yeah.
If you're up for coming out todesire and Cancun and meeting
Tramp (33:49):
us,
Lady (33:49):
sign up, it's gonna be a great time.
Tramp (33:52):
So again, this, we do not sponsor this but it's just
somewhere we're going and wejust kind of wanted to announce
it just in case.
Some of you guys may beinterested.
If you need details, if youcan't find it on Google, just
reach out to us and we willpoint you in the right
direction.
Lady (34:07):
Yeah.
And contact us at unapologeticswingers at gmail.
com.
Tramp (34:13):
We also have a website that I mentioned earlier.
It's www.
unapologeticswingers.
com.
Lady (34:20):
Wait, what is it again?
www.
You can't delete that one.
So what is it?
Tramp (34:28):
www.
unapologeticswingers.
com.
Lady (34:32):
Nice job.
Tramp (34:33):
And wherever you're listening to us we just
appreciate that you're on thisjourney with us.
So leave us a review.
And that would help us honestly,more than anything.
Lady (34:45):
Yeah.
Reviews are great.
Tramp (34:47):
And here's the teaser for our next episode.
Lady (34:51):
Oh my God, I'm so excited.
I don't know what it is.
Please tell me.
So
Tramp (34:55):
the next episode is going to be a bonus episode.
Lady (34:59):
Okay.
What did we do?
Tramp (35:01):
Hmm.
That's, that's to be.
Unveiled.
Lady (35:06):
What's the name of the bonus episode?
Tramp (35:07):
Ooh, I have about four working names right now.
Lady (35:11):
Oh my gosh.
Do you have any words you canthrow out?
Tramp (35:14):
New Orleans.
Lady (35:16):
New Orleans.
Food.
Drinks.
Sex.
Toys.
Tramp (35:25):
And potentially we will have a special guest on this
episode, our first specialguests, plural.
Lady (35:34):
Potentially.
Tramp (35:35):
Potentially.
So.
If not,
Lady (35:37):
you will be stuck with us.
It's okay.
We're great too.
Tramp (35:41):
Regardless, it's going to be fucking awesome.
Lady (35:44):
Oh, oh, yeah.
Alright, well, until next time,I'm Lady,
Tramp (35:50):
and I'm the Tramp.
Lady (35:51):
Be sexy.
Tramp (35:52):
Be confident.
Lady (35:53):
Be unapologetic.
Yeah.
And most of them are in chrono.
Oh my God.
I can't even talk chronological.
Welcome back to Unapologetic Swingers.
I'm Lady.
Tramp (00:09):
And I'm the Tramp.
And guys, we've been away forjust a little bit and we so
appreciate your patience andyour emails.
We've just had a lot of irons inthe fire.
This summer has been busy.
Lady (00:21):
Good busy.
Tramp (00:22):
Busy in a good way, but we were away a little bit longer
than what we anticipated.
So please forgive us.
Lady (00:29):
Yeah
Tramp (00:30):
And if this is your first time listening to us, we are
Lady and the Tramp and this isthe Unapologetic Swinger podcast
and we're really justchronicling our journey through
the lifestyle.
And if you haven't had a chance,I would highly recommend going
back to episode one and seeinghow far we've come
Lady (00:53):
Please go back and listen.
Most of our episodes are inchronological order, but some of
them kind of Go off script toreal time because we have some
fun adventures.
Tramp (01:06):
Yes.
Well, those are the bonusepisodes, but today we're going
way back to the memory bankslady and I were kind of
reminiscing the other week aboutanything that we may have missed
so far.
And one thing that neither of uscould believe we glazed over was
(01:27):
what we want to call our Floridaadventure.
Lady (01:30):
And this is episode number nine.
This
Tramp (01:33):
is episode number nine.
Lady (01:34):
All right.
I like Florida adventures.
Tramp (01:37):
And for those regular listeners, this would have
actually happened pre Braziliannumber one.
Lady (01:45):
Oh yeah.
So we were bitty, bitty.
In, the lifestyle journey,
Tramp (01:52):
basically dirty vanillas at this point.
Lady (01:53):
Yeah.
We were taking our baby steps,
Tramp (01:56):
But we have some great friends in the Tampa area and we
had to go out and visit them.
And we also had some business totake care of in Orlando.
So lady and I decided to take aday for ourselves and there's a
resort, I guess you could callit, just north of Tampa called
(02:20):
Caliente.
Lady (02:21):
He says it's a resort but earlier said, oh it's a
retirement community.
Oh, okay.
Cool place though.
Tramp (02:34):
It is, but it really is a retirement community.
You can actually buy a housethere if you want to.
And it's a gated community.
They have a checkpoint andeverything and secure to that
respect.
But once you get in, what wequickly discovered just on the
drive up to the clubhouse wasthe whole area is clothing
(02:56):
optional.
Lady (02:58):
The whole area outside of the resort.
Tramp (03:03):
Right outside of the clubhouse in the pool area, et
cetera.
we discovered this I believe wehad just parked and a couple
rolls up on a golf cart, notunusual in a retirement
community, but they were nude.
Lady (03:21):
It was so interesting to see because I was like, wait,
what's happening?
Tramp (03:28):
And they hop out and go into the clubhouse just like
it's nothing.
Yeah.
It's just another day.
Lady (03:33):
Yeah.
A very normal day, which I waslike, all right, this is kind of
cool.
Cool.
Tramp (03:42):
You hear about what is the big retirement community in
Florida?
Lady (03:48):
Oh my gosh.
I just saw something about itthe other day and I know what
you're talking about.
It's
Tramp (03:52):
massive.
It's, it's tens of thousands ofpeople.
Lady (03:55):
Yeah.
It's usually on the news, butnot for.
Good things.
Tramp (04:00):
Well, and it could be a, just a, a rumor or an urban
legend, how people tie the, soapparently the lifestyle
community is quite strong thereand how people tie different
colors of loofahs the, the bathscrubbies to their golf carts,
depending on what style of.
(04:21):
Swinger.
They are
Lady (04:22):
really, I haven't heard of this.
So it's like how in ourcommunity, there's white rocks
in the front yard, which meansyou're a swinger,
Tramp (04:34):
right?
The, all the common stuff, allthe pineapple paraphernalia, on
the doormat or on the housesomewhere, the white rocks or
the pink flamingos.
So I've heard
Lady (04:43):
the loop is different.
Tramp (04:46):
But anyway, we digress.
This is a full fledgedretirement community though.
And as we entered, you gothrough the clubhouse and they
have this massive pool complexand there's a band playing and a
lot of people, but they'repretty spread out.
Lady (05:05):
Yeah.
And you know, that area wherethe band was, was really cool
because they had like this, theback end of it was all rocks,
like that wall was all rocks.
And then they had a waterfall.
Then you go up the rocks wherethe waterfall is.
And then there's the hot tub upthere.
(05:27):
Yeah.
They call it a
Tramp (05:27):
conversation tub, but I think it becomes a lot more, not
so much conversation after dark.
Lady (05:33):
Right.
Well, yes, that's what you want.
And then it was almost like alazy river that they had at the
back end of the pool.
And then they had another poolwhere it was just more relaxed
pool.
Tramp (05:49):
I think one was heated because in the winter in
Florida, it does get chilly.
Okay.
Lady (05:55):
Okay.
Tramp (05:55):
So I think the large one was, that we were in, it was a
little cooler because this wasMay or June?
Lady (06:03):
June.
Beginning of June.
Tramp (06:04):
Okay.
So I think the big main poolpotentially was unheated and it
was, it wasn't cold, but it wasnoticeably cooler than the
other, the smaller pool.
Lady (06:14):
Yeah.
It was really nice though.
Yeah.
Tramp (06:18):
And what we found very quickly is, I don't know if it
was because of our youthcompared to the average age.
Lady (06:27):
I was gonna say we're not that young.
Or we're not retirement age
Tramp (06:32):
either.
Lady (06:33):
No.
Tramp (06:34):
Or the fact that we were wide eyed newbies.
Lady (06:37):
Right.
Tramp (06:38):
But we attracted some attention from, I would assume
it's the regulars, from thelocals if you will.
Lady (06:45):
Probably.
Yeah.
And they were quite older.
Tramp (06:49):
Oh, yes.
And they took a shining to Lady.
Lady (06:56):
All the older men, they were so cute.
Tramp (06:58):
They, they, they were very respectful.
Lady (07:01):
Yeah.
Tramp (07:02):
And yeah, you got a lot of compliments because just as
Lady had discovered on ourprevious visits to Desire, she
loves to be nude.
So we had no problem completelystripping down and just getting
in the pool and getting a drinkand kind of wandering around and
seeing what there is to see.
Lady (07:23):
Yeah, it was fun.
They had a really great band.
And when we first got there,there wasn't a lot of people.
But I would say as the hourpassed, that place was so
packed.
Tramp (07:41):
I think we got there just before noon.
I want to say,
Lady (07:44):
yeah, but there were so many people.
I mean, you looked around andthere were people sitting on the
tables.
There were people under thewaterfall, you know, sitting on
the rocks, which was a coollittle area.
Tramp (07:57):
And people just sunbathing all around.
This was truly a massive pool.
Lady (08:01):
Yeah.
So there was, there was a lot ofpeople around.
Tramp (08:06):
And one thing that was a first for me is we came across
this one lady who, who had her,her back to us.
And at least from a distance,she looked younger and she was,
and then she turned around andshe had a penis.
Lady (08:27):
Oh, yes.
Oh my gosh.
She was so pretty too.
I, I had never seen that before.
Tramp (08:37):
I had not either.
Yeah.
And I don't know if I've seen.
No, I have seen it since.
Lady (08:43):
Yeah.
Very unexpected, but I mean,gorgeous.
Tramp (08:48):
And I believe she was a local because everyone seemed to
know her and accept her just howshe is.
And frankly, that's prettyawesome.
Lady (08:56):
Yeah, no, I, I agree.
Yeah, very unexpected.
But yeah, she was, she wasgorgeous.
I was like, Oh my gosh.
Tramp (09:05):
But getting back to the attention that we received, we
met a lot of really cool peoplethat afternoon.
And they had a lot of awesomestories, but ultimately what we
found is, especially the women,were very forward.
(09:25):
They had no fucks to give inessence.
Lady (09:28):
I think it's a play on women can get away with a lot
more than men.
And as you get older, you startto not give any fucks.
And you're just like, I'm justgoing to do whatever I want.
If I am filling this right now,I'm going to go for it.
(09:52):
And I don't really care.
And I think you see that a lotmore in the older generation.
Tramp (10:00):
Very true.
Lady (10:01):
Yeah, because they were just, even though the men had a
taking to me, they were veryrespectful and, we just talked.
Tramp (10:11):
Yeah, they may have attempted to touch or like, like
just like a, No.
Hand on, you don't think even,
Lady (10:18):
No, not at all.
Tramp (10:20):
Hmm.
Lady (10:21):
But the women were like, straight up, Swimming up to you
and wrapping their legs aroundyou.
And I was like, Oh, okay, herewe go.
Well, what's what?
I was
Tramp (10:33):
really just kind of sitting back and watching that
whole thing unfold there.
There was this very slight Asianlady and this gal had to be
under five feet easily just.
Tiny little thing, but she tooka shining to lady and as we were
talking you were either, you mayhave been going or coming from
(10:56):
the bathroom.
And I think she just hopped onyour back and you guys were
walking through the pool.
Lady (11:01):
Yeah.
I mean, we went to the bathroomtogether and, we came back and
she just hopped on my back andkind of had her on my back
through the pool and walking.
And yeah, I'm pretty sure shewanted.
A lot more,
Tramp (11:16):
Who would let's, let's be true.
Lady (11:19):
She was cute.
Tramp (11:22):
Did, she get handsy at all?
When she had her, like, sheobviously had her legs around
you, but her arms and hands hadto go somewhere.
Lady (11:27):
Oh yeah, definitely.
Yes.
Tramp (11:32):
And then there was this other couple.
I don't recall his name.
But her name was Barbie.
Lady (11:41):
Yes.
Tramp (11:42):
And she looked like a Barbie.
Lady (11:44):
She did.
They had to have been what intheir seventies?
Tramp (11:47):
Sixty, late sixties, seventies, maybe.
Yeah.
Lady (11:49):
Yeah.
Yeah.
Very nice couple.
Tramp (11:52):
Very nice couple.
But yeah, just massive boobs.
Lady (11:55):
Yes.
Tramp (11:57):
She had
Lady (11:57):
that Barbie figure.
Tramp (11:58):
She did.
Lady (11:59):
Yeah.
Tramp (11:59):
She did.
And the blonde
Lady (12:01):
hair and the makeup, like all of it.
Tramp (12:04):
The whole nine yards.
Yes.
And I just shared this with alady recently, because we were
so early in our journey.
I believe you had been talkingto the mister and I was talking
with her and she posed aquestion to me.
(12:25):
She said, Hey, do you likepiercings?
And I'm thinking.
Yeah, I've, I've seen piercednipples.
I really love the way they lookand, and then she, further
asked, what about a piercedpussy?
And I could honestly say, Idon't know.
(12:46):
Other than in a video, I'venever seen one.
So she took my hand and.
put a palm up just right againsther pushy, which I found out was
pierced.
At that moment, I didn't quiteknow what to do.
I was just kind of
Lady (13:07):
newbie, right?
Yeah.
I, I kind of froze
Tramp (13:10):
and stuck and, and then we went back to casual
conversation and that was it.
But that was just such anunexpected encounter.
And now I think I would rollwith it a lot easier given our
experience and everything we'veseen.
But at that point I was just
Lady (13:30):
So you would roll with it with somebody of that statue and
that vintage?
Tramp (13:38):
Maybe not that, but I'm talking about the general.
Lady (13:42):
You wouldn't have just froze.
Tramp (13:43):
Correct.
Aw,
Lady (13:48):
aw.
Tramp (13:49):
I know, I know.
And part of me didn't know howyou would react.
You know, we were so new thatyou may be like, what the hell,
babe?
Why?
Why did you do that?
I'm like, I, my gut reactionwould've been I didn't.
It's not that I didn't have achoice.
I didn't know what's happeninguntil it was too late,
Lady (14:07):
right?
It's like oh she kissed me.
I didn't know
Tramp (14:14):
But the locals that we met were very sad that we had to
leave when we did because Ithink the party, the daytime is
a social time and the nighttimeis more the party time.
If you get my drift.
Lady (14:27):
Yeah.
And you know, you, you go insideto the clubhouse and you go
downstairs and there's lockerrooms and showers, and then
there's like the whole areawhere they're partying.
Tramp (14:42):
Yeah.
I think there's a restaurant inthere or some kind of cafe.
Okay.
And this was several years ago.
So bear with us if it's notexactly, but they were just
starting up karaoke.
Lady (14:53):
Yeah.
Tramp (14:53):
That was the, attraction for the evening, or maybe it's a
normal everyday thing.
I truly don't know.
Lady (14:58):
Didn't we see Barbie downstairs and she had changed
into something.
Tramp (15:03):
You're right.
Lady (15:04):
A really cute dress that was like, I don't know.
Glitter and
Tramp (15:10):
right.
It was, it was probably allsparkly.
Yeah, it was
Lady (15:13):
all sparkly.
And I was like, Oh my gosh, youlook so cute.
Yeah.
Tramp (15:18):
But we showered off and I think we got a little frisky in
the shower.
Lady (15:22):
That was a big shower.
Tramp (15:23):
It was a big shower.
It fit both of us.
Cause we just wanted to rinseoff the salt water before we hit
the road to Orlando.
And I know a couple people passby as, as we were playing
amongst ourselves and got a goodlook.
I think they enjoyed that.
Lady (15:38):
Yeah, of course they did.
Tramp (15:41):
And I think the most incredible part of the story is
yet to come.
when you're in those kinds ofenvironments and the sexual dial
is turned up.
You can't help but kind of getsucked into it, I think,
especially when you've been,having a couple cocktails over
(16:02):
the course of an afternoon andin the sun.
And so as we got on the road toOrlando,
Lady (16:12):
Which was quite the drive.
That was,
Tramp (16:15):
it was at least an hour and a half, if not two hours.
I don't recall exactly, but itwasn't just a quick 30 minute
drive up the road.
Lady (16:22):
And this was after we were in the pool for a couple hours
and in the sun and yeah, then itwas like, okay, we gotta get on
the road
Tramp (16:31):
and then some light play in the shower and we get dressed
and hop on the road.
And I think Lady and I juststarted talking and getting
turned on just by talking aboutthe afternoon and everything
that I don't know what sparkedit, but you started to play with
yourself in the passenger seatas we're whipping down the
(16:53):
interstate.
Lady (16:55):
You enjoyed it.
Tramp (16:56):
Oh, I, I, it was hard to keep my eyes on the road.
Lady (17:00):
You're like, how am I supposed to do this?
Like, I can't, I can't multitaskthis way.
And
Tramp (17:05):
anybody who's driven in Florida knows between the young
people who drive like demons andthe old people who drive like
turtles.
Lady (17:13):
Good way to, you, you
Tramp (17:15):
have to be on top of your game.
on Florida interstates.
Lady (17:20):
Yes, at all times.
Tramp (17:23):
But yet I couldn't help but look down and watch ladies
fingers, you know, just playwith that pretty little pussy.
Lady (17:29):
Yeah, that was fun.
Tramp (17:32):
But you got so worked up knowing me even at that point, I
probably started talking dirtyto you.
Lady (17:38):
Probably.
And just, you wanted to makesure I didn't stop.
Tramp (17:44):
Well, obviously not until you are satisfied,
Lady (17:50):
of course,
Tramp (17:51):
but you just kept going and getting more worked up and I
was trying like hell just tokeep us on the road.
Lady (18:00):
Yeah.
Well, I was just so turned onand I think we had just a great
day.
Like it was just so fun andwe're like, what is this?
This was.
It's fun and it's great peopleand then the shower, then it was
like, Oh, I'm really wet.
Tramp (18:19):
Yes, you were.
Lady (18:20):
I want to, I want to keep going, but we got places to be,
so we can't stop, but let's havesome fun anyway.
Tramp (18:28):
Yeah, we were on a timeline.
We had to be somewhere at acertain point there's no way we
could pull over real quick for aquickie.
Lady (18:35):
No, which needed a little bit more.
fun and I don't know, justexciting.
Tramp (18:44):
I agree.
And a little bit of a dangerelement because you never know
who may be in a taller vehicleas we went by just looking down,
watching you play.
Lady (18:54):
Maybe it reminds you of one of our first road trips
together where we're drivingdown, you're driving in the back
road.
And I'm like, I just.
Pull your pants and start givingyou a blow job.
And you're like, wait, wait,what?
Tramp (19:14):
Oh, that was fucking amazing.
I'm
Lady (19:16):
like, just keep your eye on the road.
Don't just, don't just keep youreye on the road.
I got this.
Tramp (19:22):
Yeah, with that blow job, you went the distance and I came
hard and
Lady (19:28):
I always go the distance.
And
Tramp (19:32):
I'm, I'm quite frankly amazed that I didn't run that
car off the road.
Lady (19:39):
I agree, but anyway, but
Tramp (19:41):
back to Florida by the same token, you just kept going
and going and going.
until you came incredibly hard.
Lady (19:52):
Yeah, but you reached over and helped.
Tramp (19:54):
What was I doing?
Lady (19:56):
Well, I needed a little bit of help and you kind of just
took your right hand and I thinkyou just started playing with my
clit and it was hard and fastand I was just so turned on at
the time and oh my god squirtedeverywhere.
(20:17):
Yeah,
Tramp (20:17):
you didn't just come you
Lady (20:19):
this was a rental car.
Tramp (20:21):
Actually I'm glad it was a rental car and not one of our
friends vehicles.
Lady (20:25):
Yeah.
I mean, you know, leave thempresents.
It's fine.
Like a thank you gift.
Tramp (20:32):
But yeah, that seat was drenched That car will never be
the same.
Lady (20:38):
Yes, if that's what you want to call it.
Tramp (20:41):
It's so hot when you get turned on to such an extreme and
that happens.
I mean, since we've learned somenew tricks.
Lady (20:49):
Yeah, we have.
Tramp (20:50):
But I love it.
When you come so hard that yousquirt.
Lady (20:55):
Yeah, that that seat was I'm sure they got the car back
and we're like, Did they, Idon't know, clean the inside,
like clean it from inside out?
Like what happened?
Run it through the carwash withthe windows down?
What did they do?
Spill water?
(21:15):
Yeah, you never know.
Tramp (21:16):
Yeah.
A very wet bathing suit.
Lady (21:18):
Would have been great to have just a video camera in
there where somebody just gotthe car back and we're like,
what happened in here?
Tramp (21:26):
Well, the unfortunate reality also is we still had not
only time to our destination inOrlando, now with a soaked seat,
but also after dinner The rideback to the Tampa area with a
equally wexed seat.
Lady (21:48):
I'm surprised I didn't just get in the back and be
like, all right, Uber, taxi,take me home.
I'm happy.
And I came hard.
Oh
Tramp (21:58):
yes, you did.
Lady (21:59):
Very hard.
All right.
Tramp (22:03):
But guys that pretty much wraps up that unapologetic story
and hopefully you enjoyed it asmuch as we enjoyed living it.
Lady (22:13):
That's probably one of our favorite stories.
Tramp (22:17):
And I can't believe we missed it in the chronological
order.
Lady (22:20):
Yeah, that's fine.
It's like bonus, bonus, bonus,even though it's episode nine.
Enjoy.
You can just imagine.
The finger to my clit in thecar.
Tramp (22:34):
Mm-Hmm.
Lady (22:34):
on the passenger side, driving down the highway.
People might be passing, wemight be passing people.
Yeah.
Good times.
Tramp (22:44):
Good times, And before we get into the unapologetic
honesty, we're gonna pause realquick here and talk about one of
our partners.
Which is shivers.
Lady (22:58):
Oh my gosh.
Always so excited to tell youabout shivers.
This is an edible CBD derivedsensation enhancer.
Tramp (23:09):
And there are two specialized formulas.
One is for men and one is forwomen.
And let me tell you, thesethings are amazing.
For me, they kick in after 30 to60 minutes, and not only do I
get an energy boost, which makesit perfect for those late night
lifestyle events, but everytouch is magnified.
Lady (23:31):
I totally agree with that.
It truly does send thosewonderful shivers down your
spine.
I mean, it's just amazing.
And it doesn't end there.
Not only is my pleasureincreased, but the next day I
wake up feeling great, notgroggy, like some other edibles
or drinking all night.
Tramp (23:49):
Mm hmm.
In most situations, I reallybelieve that this is going to
replace alcohol for mepersonally.
I just feel good.
I am just as relaxed as if I'vehad multiple drinks and
everything is better feelingwise, especially when we play.
Lady (24:10):
Oh my gosh.
I'm just going to say thisreally quick.
The tingly sensation after youtake this is quite amazing.
So we'd love for you guys to trythem out.
We've arranged a specialdiscount at shivers.
store on any of their products.
Just use the code us forunapologetic swingers at
(24:32):
checkout for 10 percent off yourentire order.
Tramp (24:36):
A link can also be found on the website at www.
unapologeticswingers.
com.
And please be sure to let usknow what you think.
It's pretty obvious.
We think they're amazing.
Now, as we get on to theunapologetic honesty, I think
Lady has a different take onthis than I do.
(24:58):
When I was writing the shownotes, I pretty much said my
takeaway was that olderlifestyle folks can sense fresh
meat and they just have no fucksto give, so they just go for it.
But you said somethingDifferent.
You phrased it differently.
(25:20):
Not that they don't have anyfucks to give, but I'm trying to
remember exactly what you said.
Lady (25:27):
Oh, my gosh if I said that 10 minutes ago, I don't remember
what I said.
I think I need shivers.
I'll be right back.
Hold on.
Serious.
I will be right back.
I am gonna take shivers tonightso I can sleep just FYI.
(25:48):
I don't remember what I said.
Tramp (25:52):
I think that you said that it's not necessarily the
age, but the experience.
And as you gain experience, youyou can sense when other people
are experienced in the lifestyleand they may not have the
trepidation or I guess you callit the baggage of the holdups.
(26:15):
Whereas people that you knowimmediately, it's like, yeah,
they know their shit.
You can just be yourself.
You don't have to worry aboutstepping on toes necessarily.
Lady (26:23):
Yeah.
Well, yeah, it definitely comeswith, you know, experience.
And that comes with wisdom and,what you're comfortable with and
what you've been through andwhat's okay and what's not okay.
Tramp (26:36):
And how you communicate it.
Lady (26:37):
And yeah, yes.
Communication always.
That's, I know our big talkingpoint is communication.
But yeah, I mean you have onhere, all lifestyle folks can
sense fresh meat.
And yeah, I think for us at thatpoint, we had no clue.
(27:01):
No,
Tramp (27:01):
we were dirty vanilla as we'd been to desire a couple of
times.
And that was the extent of it.
Lady (27:06):
Just dipping our toes into the water.
So, but I do have to say this,even though they 99 percent knew
that we were new.
They were so welcoming and sonice and so kind and willing
(27:28):
just to talk and talk aboutwhatever, shoot the shit.
And That is still today.
What I love about this communityis that is what you get.
Tramp (27:40):
I have to agree with that completely.
My love.
Yeah.
All right.
And onto our ask us anythingsegment.
And these come from our friendsJ and L and they ask, this is
geared for lady.
Actually, how do you deal withan overly aggressive woman?
One that grabs your butt orboobs without warning or
(28:04):
permission?
Lady (28:07):
You know, I think this type of person is always going
to exist, unfortunately, andit's up to us on how we react,
right?
I don't think this is okay atall, but your reaction also
(28:29):
speaks a lot to you because thisalso speaks to their character.
Which to me says they have apretty shitty character, but we
can only control us.
We can't control other people.
So for me, if someone grabbed mybutt, I would definitely let
them know, Hey, that's not okay.
(28:51):
I didn't say that was okay.
And it's just having aconversation and addressing it
in a nice way.
Tramp (28:59):
Mm hmm.
Lady (29:01):
I can only.
control my actions andreactions.
And you kind of hope that theyrespect that and understand it.
I would say 99 percent of peoplein the lifestyle understand
those rules because they've beento events or they have friends
who have been to events.
They have either been to aresort like Desire.
(29:25):
Or they have friends that havebeen to a resort and there's
rules that are given to you atall of these places.
And you should always respectthose rules, but yeah, you're
going to have stupid people.
Tramp (29:40):
I think you brought up something very relevant earlier
in the fact that Generallyspeaking, women can get away
with a lot more than men.
If you were to reverse thesexes, it would not go over
well, generally speaking.
Lady (29:58):
Right.
Tramp (29:59):
There's a difference with being, I just want to say,
playfully aggressive, which Iknow is one of your weaknesses.
But Not aggressive to the pointthat J and L are mentioning here
where it's completely, it's notlike they come up to you and get
(30:22):
a little handsy.
This is
Lady (30:23):
overly aggressive.
Tramp (30:24):
Yes, overly aggressive.
Lady (30:25):
That's not okay.
But you're going to have overlyaggressive.
You're not going to have, youknow, like the Barbies where
they're playful and they'reolder and they, have a lot of
experience and they kind ofknow, I think where to push the
button and where not to
Tramp (30:47):
the natural limits.
Lady (30:48):
Yeah.
And then you're going to havethose overly aggressive women.
Tramp (30:53):
Yeah.
And really that's just aturnoff.
At least I think so.
Lady (30:59):
Yeah.
I would have to agree.
I think there's a little bit ofa line where it's It's cute.
And you're like, Oh, you know,they're into me.
And then you have the, yeah, no,I don't want to be touched.
It's like, this is not okay.
This
Tramp (31:17):
attention is not welcome.
Lady (31:18):
Yeah.
And again, it's saying it in anice, positive way because maybe
they're in a space that theydon't know that they're in.
And that's why I go back to, youcan't control other people.
You can only control you and bestraightforward right away with,
(31:38):
Hey, this is my boundary becauseeverybody has boundaries in this
lifestyle, no matter if you haveno boundaries, that that's a
boundary.
So yeah, it's just addressing itright away as nice as you can.
But.
As clear as you can,
Tramp (31:59):
I think the clarity is the key.
Lady (32:01):
Yeah.
And it's okay to do that.
Definitely boundaries
Tramp (32:05):
and rules is of course.
Okay.
Lady (32:08):
Yeah.
And knowing what your rules andboundaries are and being okay
with same, this is, this is notokay.
Tramp (32:18):
I would go a step further and say, don't allow others to
set your boundaries.
You set your boundaries.
Lady (32:25):
Yep, absolutely
Tramp (32:28):
So hopefully that helps answer your question guys.
Lady (32:31):
Yeah, and I don't think you'll come Across this type of
person very often.
Tramp (32:38):
No, but it is a hazard of the lifestyle it happens.
Yeah And we've come across menwho are the same way, to be
honest, but by the same token,just like I mentioned earlier,
women can get away with a lotmore generally speaking than
men.
So that's why I think the, thefeminine side in this equation
is a lot more prevalent.
Lady (33:00):
Agree.
Tramp (33:02):
And guys, we want to make one announcement.
We are going on a trip.
Lady (33:08):
Oh, we are?
Tramp (33:09):
We are.
Where are we going?
So this is not one that we aresponsoring, but we do know that
they only have a couple roomsleft.
And this is the PineappleFitness Takeover of Desire RM.
Lady (33:23):
In November.
Tramp (33:24):
In November.
It is, the official dates Ibelieve are November 11th to the
16th.
And I know from communicationswith a couple other podcasters,
friends with a twist, they aregoing to be there as well, or at
least half of friends with atwist.
Lady (33:43):
Yeah.
If you're up for coming out todesire and Cancun and meeting
Tramp (33:49):
us,
Lady (33:49):
sign up, it's gonna be a great time.
Tramp (33:52):
So again, this, we do not sponsor this but it's just
somewhere we're going and wejust kind of wanted to announce
it just in case.
Some of you guys may beinterested.
If you need details, if youcan't find it on Google, just
reach out to us and we willpoint you in the right
direction.
Lady (34:07):
Yeah.
And contact us at unapologeticswingers at gmail.
com.
Tramp (34:13):
We also have a website that I mentioned earlier.
It's www.
unapologeticswingers.
com.
Lady (34:20):
Wait, what is it again?
www.
You can't delete that one.
So what is it?
Tramp (34:28):
www.
unapologeticswingers.
com.
Lady (34:32):
Nice job.
Tramp (34:33):
And wherever you're listening to us we just
appreciate that you're on thisjourney with us.
So leave us a review.
And that would help us honestly,more than anything.
Lady (34:45):
Yeah.
Reviews are great.
Tramp (34:47):
And here's the teaser for our next episode.
Lady (34:51):
Oh my God, I'm so excited.
I don't know what it is.
Please tell me.
So
Tramp (34:55):
the next episode is going to be a bonus episode.
Lady (34:59):
Okay.
What did we do?
Tramp (35:01):
Hmm.
That's, that's to be.
Unveiled.
Lady (35:06):
What's the name of the bonus episode?
Tramp (35:07):
Ooh, I have about four working names right now.
Lady (35:11):
Oh my gosh.
Do you have any words you canthrow out?
Tramp (35:14):
New Orleans.
Lady (35:16):
New Orleans.
Food.
Drinks.
Sex.
Toys.
Tramp (35:25):
And potentially we will have a special guest on this
episode, our first specialguests, plural.
Lady (35:34):
Potentially.
Tramp (35:35):
Potentially.
So.
If not,
Lady (35:37):
you will be stuck with us.
It's okay.
We're great too.
Tramp (35:41):
Regardless, it's going to be fucking awesome.
Lady (35:44):
Oh, oh, yeah.
Alright, well, until next time,I'm Lady,
Tramp (35:50):
and I'm the Tramp.
Lady (35:51):
Be sexy.
Tramp (35:52):
Be confident.
Lady (35:53):
Be unapologetic.
Yeah.
And most of them are in chrono.
Oh my God.
I can't even talk chronological.
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