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June 10, 2025 43 mins

Matthew and Joanna Raabsmith are clinicians, speakers, and authors of the book Building True Intimacy: Creating a Connection that Stands the Test of Time. They have over 20 years of combined experience in counseling, coaching, and guiding couples toward healing and transformation. Their mission is to help couples navigate the complexities of relational challenges, particularly in the aftermath of sexual addiction and betrayal trauma, fostering deep restoration and growth.
Sam and Chris interview Matthew and Joanna about their 12-year journey from personal crisis to professional careers helping couples recover from addiction and betrayal. The couple recounts their early struggles, how addiction and infidelity impacted their marriage, and the pivotal moments that set them on a path to recovery. They discuss the development of their intimacy framework, 'The Intimacy Pyramid,' which guides couples from honesty to a deeply connected relationship. The dialogue underscores the role of faith, the importance of mutual honesty and trust, and the hard work necessary for relational healing.

*To connect with Matthew & Joanna, visit raabsmithteam.com


00:00 Introduction and Welcome
01:03 Meet Matthew and Joanna
01:20 The Journey of Recovery
02:14 Early Marriage Struggles
04:28 The Turning Point
06:12 Confession and Recovery
07:25 Faith and Ministry Challenges
16:04 Building Honesty and Safety
21:59 Building Trust in Relationships
22:47 The Role of Vulnerability
25:00 Achieving Intimacy
26:31 The Journey of Healing
29:20 Steps to Rebuild Trust
37:48 The Importance of Self-Regulation
39:57 Resources and Support for Couples

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