Behind the Scenes of Temptation Island: Raw Confessions, Untold Bombshells ft. Mel & Reba - Ep.076 - Unattainable Podcast Show

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I was doing a remote job and it was so, like, what's
the word like?
Monotonous, like, is that theword Monotonous?
Yeah, that's a word, yeah,that's a word, Okay word of the
day.
That's a long one too.

Speaker 3 (00:11):
Yeah, that's a hard word, I'm talking to real people
.
Yeah, I'm searching them online.
Yeah, yeah, the recruiters likethis is a real thing.
And like my parents thought itwas a scam, yeah, like they
thought I was going to get, andthey literally like called me
and they were like, no, don't go.

Speaker 1 (00:27):
I'm like no, no no, yeah, I guess some people go on
for love.
I went on because I'm like whatelse do I got going on, right
now.
Like I didn't care if I leftwith anyone.

Speaker 4 (00:35):
Life needs some excitement.

Speaker 3 (00:36):
Yeah, how did they find you?
Through Instagram?
I don't know.
They can spot a bad bitch fromanywhere.
They saw a baddie and they'relike you should be on the show
you didn't have to wear abathing suit.
In my thing, I was wearing abikini.
Yes, me too.
Did you get paid?
Yeah, was it enough?
No, absolutely not.

Speaker 4 (00:54):
It could never be enough For the trauma that I
endured after like I was notwell for a month.

Speaker 3 (01:03):
Ooh, let's talk about that.
When I first got there, I waslike intimidated.
I was like, oh my God, like Idon't think I was prepared to
like actually, because I thoughtthis was going to be easy.
Delusion drives you places,yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:15):
You're going to fake it until you make it.
And then they put in a clip ofme holding like Kay's notebook
when everyone's dancing, likeI'm like why, who's like
plotting for my downfall, likethey're twerking, having fun and
I'm like holding a notebooklike I'm scared.
But okay, pretty much I havehis best friends I became.
They made reba look like alunatic welcome to unattainable.

Speaker 2 (01:43):
Glad to have you with us.
I'm your host, zach Evans,along here with my co-host,
mohamed Molle.
We got a couple special guestsfrom Temptation Island on today
with us.
Why don't you guys go ahead,introduce yourself, name what
you do and your star sign.

Speaker 3 (01:56):
Perfect.
Hi guys, my name is Melissa.
I am 26 years old Right now.
I work in nightlife, I dobottle service, and my star sign
I'm a years old Right now.
I work in nightlife, I dobottle service, and my star sign
I'm a Scorpio.

Speaker 2 (02:11):
So intense, passionate, loyal, toxic.
Yeah, passionate, I meanpassionate.
Yeah, that's what they say.

Speaker 3 (02:13):
Okay, they always say that we're toxic, but I think
we're very, very loyal peopleDangerous.
Dangerous.

Speaker 2 (02:19):
Bad for my mental health.

Speaker 1 (02:31):
Gonna cost me a lot of money in therapy.
But don't cross us, but fun.
He's like you're cool, but thisand this and this you're cool,
but watch out, what about you?
I'm reba, I'm 24.
Um, I'm a bottle girl with mygirl over there and I'm a taurus
, so I'm grounded.
We balance each other out seewe love tauruses.

Speaker 2 (02:41):
Yeah, you would be like my best friend and you'd be
like my arch nemesis.
Yeah, I wouldn't say, archnemesis, you'd be like one of my
normal enemies.
You know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (02:49):
I would say like ex, but enemies, I wouldn't.

Speaker 4 (02:53):
Okay.
I'm a lover, not a hater.

Speaker 1 (02:56):
You can go either way .
Yeah Right, who'd be the top ifwe knew who he wants to know
now would be top.
When you fell on me last night,you were on top, I was, but
like in life I don't know.
She's mommy she's so I'm, I'mdominant you are yeah but you're

(03:21):
so spacey right that that, likeI keep her in check.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (03:25):
So no, like this is my absolute twin, like we need
each other to even function.

Speaker 2 (03:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (03:31):
Yeah, so we go everywhere together.

Speaker 2 (03:33):
You'd be on top of the bedroom and you have like a
good credit score and like a lotof LinkedIn followers and like
make sure you guys get yourfinances together.

Speaker 1 (03:40):
Okay, pavi, not exactly.
Okay, daddy.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
We're we're switch.
Yeah, we're versatile.
Yeah, yeah, we can go eitherway.
The bottom always says thatthey're switch yeah, you would
know.

Speaker 4 (03:55):
First of all, I don't like your tone that is funny,
okay, so how old are you?

Speaker 3 (04:05):
I'm 26.
You're 26 and you are 24.

Speaker 4 (04:08):
Yeah, okay, and how long ago did you guys meet?

Speaker 3 (04:11):
Almost a year ago.
Almost a year ago on the show.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 (04:15):
Oh, so you're not bottle service at the same venue
.
We are now, yeah.

Speaker 3 (04:33):
Oh, you now.
Yeah, there's a story to that.
I think it's a beautiful story.

Speaker 1 (04:34):
It is it's gorgeous.
Yeah, yeah, go for it.
Okay.
So when we left the show or Icame back and she was actually
no, you tell me because it'syour story.
Yeah, okay.
So I used to do digitalmarketing and I was just doing
this remote job in new york andI'm like what the hell am I
doing a remote job in New Yorkfor, like I need to do something
else.
And then the show TemptationIsland fell into my lap.
We can get into it later.
But my marketing job was likewe don't want to be associated
with you if you do the show.

(04:55):
And so I said say less, I'mquitting and I quit.
And then I was.
I went on the show and I'm likeum, but I don't have a job when
I get back um.
And then I met Mel.
We got picked up um at theairport at the same time, like
we weren't supposed to talk toeach other at all.
But then I clocked her and shesaid she was from New York and

(05:15):
that she works in night life,and I was like can you hook me
up with a job?
And then Mel take it and then.

Speaker 3 (05:22):
So I was absolutely, and then we really got close
with each other on the show andthen we also found out we live
pretty close to each other.
It's like a 15-minute walkwhere you live right now.
And then so I came back and Iwas like I literally went
through my networks of peoplebecause I'm very connected, so I

(05:43):
didn't want to leave herwithout a job, obviously, so
then she had no experience yeah,no experience.

Speaker 1 (05:50):
I thought I'm like you just have to be a bad bitch
to bottle girl and that's theonly requirement.

Speaker 3 (05:55):
Little did I know it's, it's, it's competitive,
it's very competitive in NewYork City, and so then I reached
out to a bunch of people andthen they were hiring at um, at
this place, and then I got hiredand they were like, but she
said, they were like, obviouslyI had so much experience, like

(06:17):
they would hire me on the spot,which they did.
But I was like if you hire me,you have to hire her because we
went at the same time.

Speaker 1 (06:25):
And then they were like okay, and they loved our
dynamic duo when we workedtogether Black Hat, golden
Retriever, right yeah, like tagteam.
The customers, yeah.

Speaker 2 (06:33):
It's like when LeBron got his son into the league.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (06:35):
Yeah, like I was like no, you're LeBron, she got you
in, you win.

Speaker 2 (06:40):
what do you mean?

Speaker 3 (06:41):
you're obviously the son, but I'm the top but yeah,
like I like believe that mycircle should eat, like I'm
never gonna leave anybody behind.
So I got her the job and youknow we've been doing it ever
since together yeah yeah, wedon't sleep, we don't, we don't
sleep sleep.

Speaker 2 (07:02):
Sleep is for the week .

Speaker 3 (07:03):
Yeah, like y'all's 9 to 5 or 9 pm to 5 am, that's
ours.

Speaker 4 (07:08):
Yeah, yeah, interesting Fun story.
You're a character, so we'llcome back to you.
Zip what We'll start, so thisquestion goes to both of you.
But then you could start andthen, okay, mel could take over
after.
Uh, what motivated, motivatedyou to join temptation island?

Speaker 1 (07:30):
okay, so, like I said , I was doing a remote job and
it was so, like, what's the wordlike, monotonous, like, is that
the word monotonous?

Speaker 2 (07:38):
yeah that's a word.

Speaker 3 (07:39):
Yeah, that's a word.
Okay, word of the day.

Speaker 1 (07:41):
Yeah, it's a long one too.
I mean, there's a lot of words,it just A lot of syllables.
Yeah, that's a hard word.

Speaker 4 (07:45):
I mean, there's a lot of words, it just depends on
what context you're trying touse it in.

Speaker 1 (07:51):
Well, it was like repetitive Day to day Moudane
Moudane, Moudane Pesto.
But like I'm, like I'm in NewYork, they're like what did we,
who did you guys reach out to me?

Speaker 2 (08:06):
but we got to get a new recruiter.
I don't know what's going onthey're bringing all the
riffraff you know but I wasbored.

Speaker 1 (08:14):
I was in new york city and I was bored and then so
I was the only person from theshow that applied, which is sad
question mark everyone's like.
I got recruited.
I'm like same, no, but I gotlike an email at like three.
Um, like I guess I'm part oflike a netflix casting email
chain and it was like new showlike apply, and so I applied for

(08:38):
it and then they literallymessaged me back like the next
day.
They're like you look good girl, and the process was like too
easy.
I was like what?
Like they're flying me tohawaii?
Like I didn't think this is athing I'm like this is dangerous
um yeah, my dad thought it wasfake.

Speaker 3 (08:55):
He was like who's flying you to hawaii?
what netflix he's like it's ascam don't go right and I was
like no, like I think this islegit, like this is like I'm
talking to real people.
Yeah, I'm searching them online.
The recruiters, like this is areal thing.
And like my parents thought itwas a scam.
Yeah, like they thought I wasgonna get sex trafficked and

(09:17):
they literally like called meand they were like no, don't go.
I'm like no, no, no, yeah, I Ithink it's a real.
Yeah, like I see the flight tohawaii, like we're gonna end up
in hawaii.

Speaker 1 (09:23):
I don't go.
I'm like no, no, no, yeah I.
I think it's a real yeah.
I'm like I see the flight tohawaii like we're gonna end up
in hawaii.
I don't know what we're gonnado there, but yeah but we did it
.
But it's funny because, likeboth of our experiences, I knew
from the first interview I'mlike, fuck, I got this, like
because I was stressed, becauseI'm like I'm gonna have to quit
my job if I get this.
And so I oh, you knew, I knew Ihad it, which is like but you

(09:46):
didn't.

Speaker 3 (09:46):
I set the bar low because I didn't want to get my
hopes up, but how?
What was the question?

Speaker 4 (09:52):
What motivated you to join the show, and her answer
was Her answer was boredom.

Speaker 2 (09:59):
No, it was monotonous , monotonous.

Speaker 4 (10:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (10:01):
Way more classy than boredom Way yeah, yeah, no, I
guess some people go on for love.
I went on because I'm like whatelse do I got going on right
now, like I didn't care if Ileft with anyone.

Speaker 4 (10:14):
Life needs some excitement.

Speaker 1 (10:15):
Yeah, I was like you need to do some shit right now.

Speaker 3 (10:18):
I went on the show because I kind of was like
single as a pringle, like therewas nothing in my life right and
I was like, oh, I get to findlove.
Like on a tv show, like, oh,cool, like why not?
But also like there was nothingin my life.
I was very stagnant, likenothing was going on, and I'm
just like what is the purpose?

(10:39):
Like I was really in a rut andI'm like what is the purpose of
my life right now?
Like every day I'm just doingthe same, like mundane things,
like I.
And then I got recruitedthrough my instagram, like some,
like a recruiter reached out tome and I was just checking
through my like message requestsand then I'm like what?
and I'm like what they said theywere like hey, we're doing a

(11:01):
show.
Um, they were uh are you in arelationship or are you single?
And I was like I'm single and II actually left that message in
my dms for like a couple daysand then I was bored and I was
just like, let me just anotherbored person and let me just
answer like why?
Why not like right, like if anyopportunity comes I'm going to

(11:23):
you know.

Speaker 4 (11:23):
Yeah, they can't kill you over the phone.
Entertain it yeah.

Speaker 3 (11:26):
And then I message them, and then I send them my
information, and then we slowlystarted doing Zooms, and then it
was like an hour Did you havetwo?
Interviews.
I had dude, I had like fourNuh-uh yeah, no-transcript,

(12:13):
bitch they just thought they sawa baddie and they're like you
should be on the show are yousingle?
unfortunately I am.
So then, and then we wentthrough the zoom sessions.
The first one was about an hourand they ask every question in
the book, every question on thebook what's your type, how do
you approach a man, what's likeyour family, trauma, like

(12:33):
everything?
Did they ask if you have atalent?
I was going to show my talent,but I think face card, like just
was like you're good For real.

Speaker 1 (12:49):
Yeah, I was going to for real.
Yeah, I had to show them.
My talent was that my arm isdouble jointed and they kept
making me do it for them andthey're like you're a freak like
.

Speaker 3 (12:53):
They said that like and I'm like you asked me to do
this this is the talent, this ismy talent.
And then this so the zoomsessions they were getting
shorter and shorter.
The final zoom session that Ihad was eight minutes and I was
like I didn't get it.
And it was in front of allthese um, netflix, like
producers, like official casts,and then the official producer,
um of the show, and then theywere asking me questions, and

(13:15):
then eight minutes and I'm likethat was so and they're like,
okay, we're done.
Thank you for your time.
Whatever did you wear a bikini?
I know I wore like this orangetop and they made me stand and
do like a spin.
They wanted to see my body.
You didn't have to wear abathing suit In my thing, I was
wearing a bikini.

Speaker 1 (13:31):
Yes, me too Babe what You're like.

Speaker 2 (13:33):
We don't trust her body.

Speaker 3 (13:35):
Wearing something.
No, reba's body is tea.
No Reba's body is tea no Ibelieve it, but maybe on your.

Speaker 2 (13:39):
Instagram Like like you don't have any photos, or
something like no, no, that'sall I wrote reba was like wear a
bikini, sit right there for anhour.

Speaker 1 (13:47):
Yeah, just look at your bikini wear bikini and do
circles for an hour and I'm likeI got this like I'm so dizzy
they didn't ask you to wear abathing suit?

Speaker 3 (13:56):
no, the bathing suit was um um, and I'm in new york.

Speaker 1 (14:01):
I'm in meg's room in new york wearing a one piece in
february and I'm like I workedfor this.

Speaker 3 (14:11):
I, I, they made, I did my makeup, okay.
So every uh interview, like youyou have to do, you had to
pretend that you're on theisland so that you know.
So I wore an orange tube topand I don't wear color like I am
a neutral gal.

Speaker 4 (14:26):
New York's black.

Speaker 1 (14:27):
New.

Speaker 3 (14:27):
York is city-coded black.
I had to borrow my roommate'sclothes for these interviews and
they're like you're stunning,babe.
Yes, I'm like this isn't evenmine.
But and then makeup done, andwhen I did the eight minutes, I
remember I got ready.
It took me about like an hourand a half because I wanted to

(14:48):
slay on camera, yeah, and theneight minutes I was done and
defeated and I'm like I didn'tget it.
So then I was in Mexico with mygirlfriend and I get a call
from Los Angeles and let me tellyou this is the fastest process
ever.
They were like you're onTemptation Island Pack your bags

(15:09):
, Get ready.
I had 12 days to go to Hawaii.

Speaker 1 (15:14):
I had a week they called me after you.
Yeah, one week I had 12 days.

Speaker 4 (15:19):
And obviously they're paying you guys to be gone for
the duration, not enough waitwhat?

Speaker 1 (15:24):
not enough money?
Oh yeah, no, no, no, I theythere was a cash prize, I would
have tried a lot harder oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (15:32):
People are like did you win?
Win?

Speaker 1 (15:36):
no one won.
Even the winners didn't win.
I think everyone's won I wonsome Instagram followers, yeah.

Speaker 2 (15:45):
Maybe, Maybe, We'll see when the show comes out.

Speaker 3 (15:48):
I want my bills paid.
That's what I want.

Speaker 4 (15:50):
I don't know if I smelled pay gap or she's trying
to squeeze more money out of thenext show, because I was like
did you get paid?
She's like yeah.
Mel's like yeah.

Speaker 2 (16:05):
And then Reba's like yeah, mel's like yeah, and then
reba's like not enough and thenmel goes, yeah, not enough.

Speaker 3 (16:13):
You're like did you get paid?
Yeah, was it enough?
No, absolutely.
It could never be enough forthe trauma that I endured after
like I was not well for a month.

Speaker 4 (16:24):
Ooh, let's talk about that.

Speaker 3 (16:25):
So you're just like it's a social experiment.
It is.
It is not a fun time.
Every day was a battle.

Speaker 1 (16:35):
Yeah, it was a war.
Like you should see everyonejournaled.
If you saw my journal, youwould think I was like in an
insane asylum because I'm like,I'm enough like I'm like you had
a journal.
I was raw dogging it in my mindlike I look over mill, staring
into a corner, like just staringinto the abyss and I'm like

(16:55):
just writing and staring no,like it was bad.

Speaker 3 (16:59):
I came back because it's just like take away your
phone.
You're not eating the same.

Speaker 1 (17:06):
No hot dogs every day , you're literally eating
macaroni once a day and they'refeeding you Celsius.

Speaker 3 (17:13):
You're drinking all the time.

Speaker 1 (17:17):
I had to, but no drinking limit.
Some shows do.

Speaker 2 (17:20):
Love Island, they had a strict one they can't drink
at all.

Speaker 3 (17:22):
I think that's brutal I had, I needed something, yeah
, and then we would secretlylike vape, like in the bathroom
vape yeah, come out sucking someno like because I couldn't be
on camera.

Speaker 1 (17:33):
Yeah, we couldn't be on camera that was like we'd
pass each other in the room andbe like yeah, babe.

Speaker 3 (17:39):
And then you're talking to these people 25, 8,
like yeah, all the time andbecause there's nothing to do
and then boredom reaches you.
It's hot, it's like like on theshow, it looks like a fun time
love island they said too.

Speaker 2 (17:54):
The producers are always like you gotta get out
there, you gotta get out, you'reworking it's not, it's not a
fun.

Speaker 3 (17:59):
You're like we're awake from like 7 am to like3 am
yeah, and then I would getanxiety, yeah, and then it was
hot.
It was hot like it just it wasa lot.
And then I came back I was soemotionally and like um, overly
stimulated because you know,you're talking to people and
you're telling these randompeople like all your traumas and

(18:20):
like everything that you nevereven know, they don't give a
fuck.
And then you you came back.
I like wasn't mentally well forlike about about a month.

Speaker 1 (18:28):
Yeah, yeah, I couldn't talk to people and
formulate like a sentence yeah,for like well, that's why we got
so close too, because, like theday she, I went home earlier
than her, and the day she flewback, she literally texted me
and she was like let's go outlet's go out like I.

Speaker 3 (18:42):
She was the first person I saw when I landed in
new york city.
I was like you get it, no oneelse gets it no one gets it.
I was like I don't even want tolike talk and then like, I
landed, got ready, didn't evensee my roommates got ready and
then we went out.

Speaker 4 (18:56):
Yeah of course, of course, we went out yeah, yeah
okay.
So what was it like last night?
Because you guys last night hadthis party, reunion party or
whatever.
Yeah right, what was it likeseeing all the people that have
caused all this trauma?

Speaker 1 (19:15):
it was funny.
Well, we saw, we saw grant andwe saw yeah, and it's funny
because I talked to Lino,because I got eliminated first.
I don't know if you guys knowthis, and so I watched it back.
I was like I want to know whatthey said.
And then, because Lino wasprobably the guy I was like
homies with the most, like therewas no sexual attention there

(19:36):
at all, but like we were likehomies.
And then when I watched theepisode he was like I think
Reeve is an obvious one for allof us.
So I saw him yesterday and I'mlike he's like so good to see
you and I'm like really, becauseyou said, reeve is like such an
obvious out and he's like hetold me that he was the only one
trying to save me and he waslike explain, but you know, what

(19:58):
Wait?

Speaker 2 (19:58):
an obvious one to kick Now that.

Speaker 4 (20:01):
I'm saying it out loud it's a gaslighting you, it
lights me.

Speaker 1 (20:04):
I'm like wait, but it's on camera.
But you said this, though.
But you said I'm like how doesthat come up?
You know what?
Did you call him up?

Speaker 3 (20:13):
Yeah, no, yeah she went up to him.

Speaker 1 (20:17):
I went up to him I was like, oh my God, you were
like my favorite girl there andI'm like really, because on
camera it says like let's getReba the fuck out of this island
.
And he said that everyone elselike, which is a lot.
There's like so much lore tolike Tyler and stuff.
But Lino said he was the onlyone trying to save me.

(20:39):
But it was like weird seeingthem because we can actually
call them out for shit that theydid on the show, Like I don't
know.

Speaker 3 (20:47):
It was.
It was just like you see them.
You've experienced all likethese experiences on an island.
And then you don't see thesepeople for about like a year.
And then you see them on TV andthen you see them in real life
and so much is to catch up andit's just like like for me, I
had, I had a fun time, but itwas.

Speaker 1 (21:06):
It was weird, yeah, seeing everybody in person,
because they're all like just asclose, like it feels like it
hadn't been a year, you knowright, yeah, it felt like, we
just did this like two weeks ago, yeah, and then now, now we're
back yeah, yeah, I mean somepeople are closer than other
people, yeah, like obviouslyevery everyone has like their,
certain like persons that theywant to like be with, but yeah,

(21:28):
yeah, yeah what?

Speaker 4 (21:29):
what is the common denominator between all the
girls that were on the show, whowere the um, the, the, the ones
that were supposed to split upthe couples?

Speaker 3 (21:42):
I think like huge personalities the common
denominator yeah, like we,everyone is like, like I thought
it was the main charactersyndrome.

Speaker 1 (21:51):
I'm like oh, so this is the battle of divas, because
it's weird, because, like whenwe're like in our respective
cities and stuff, like you thinkyou're special, and then you
get there and you're like I'mjust like every other bitch here
yeah, like it's like they.

Speaker 3 (22:04):
They chose a really good cast because everyone has a
great personality, but everyoneis fierce in their own way yeah
yeah.
So it was like like when Ifirst got there, I was like
intimidated.
I was like, oh my god, like I.
I don't think I was prepared tolike actually, because I
thought this was gonna be easy.
I was like I like I'm going tobag a man like easy, easy money,

(22:25):
you know, yeah.
And then I get there and I'mlike, oh, this is harder than I
thought.
I actually have.
You know, I have to try, yeah,so like I got to put in the work
and I didn't, then you know Iit just didn't work out.

Speaker 4 (22:39):
When did you get eliminated?

Speaker 3 (22:41):
I got eliminated.
I was in the final eliminationand I got eliminated with Alex
Olivia.
Final eight, Final eight yeah.

Speaker 1 (22:51):
Yeah, alex Olivia.

Speaker 3 (22:53):
Angel, yeah, and then yeah, like that was it.
But I was like I never went ona date, I never, and I wanted to
go on a date, so bad.
And then yet last night, lenawas like oh no, I was talking to
lena and alexa so like yeah, sonice, yeah.
And they were like alexa waslike, oh, like leno's talked so

(23:14):
much like good about you, likehe said he wished he took you on
a date, and I was like, well,he didn't, yeah, he had a chance
.

Speaker 1 (23:21):
Where was that energy ?

Speaker 3 (23:22):
I literally, I, I literally asked him I was like,
well, he didn't, yeah, he had achance.
Where was that energy?
Then I literally asked him.
I was like, on the first night,which they skipped, there's a
whole night.
They edited out so much theyedited out.
Yeah, that's anotherconversation.
There's so much that happenedthat they edited out.
But the first night they cometo the house and we finally get
to meet the boys, um, and then Iremember talking to him for

(23:42):
like a while yeah.
And then I was like oh, like, Iwould love to go on a date with
you.
I'd love to like um, you saidthat the first night yeah, yeah,
yeah, both, yeah.
I want to go on a date yeah, Iwant to get to know you.
You know, like know more aboutyou.
Your past relationship well,not past, but like the current
relationship that you're in andthen I didn't get chosen.

Speaker 4 (24:03):
But you know, never, I never did, but I carry the
vibes but it sounds like the waythat the show is set up, that
the girls who are thecontestants don't really care
whether or not there isconnection with this person.
It's just getting to go onthese dates.

Speaker 3 (24:22):
Okay, so you have to imagine we were enslaved to that
house.
We couldn't leave Going on adate you got to experience
Hawaii.

Speaker 1 (24:33):
You got to leave the house.

Speaker 3 (24:34):
You got to leave.

Speaker 2 (24:36):
And you get more air time on the show.

Speaker 3 (24:38):
Right, right, yeah, obviously, but you got to.

Speaker 2 (24:41):
You guys are like we just wanted a vacation, I just
wanted to go to hawaii.

Speaker 3 (24:46):
no, but you got to leave.
Like that was like the reward,like you know, like you're stuck
in that villa and like outside,and that was it.
They didn't let you leave, theydidn't nothing.
I was there for a month, sojust imagine, imagine, like that
was Rikers Island, like thatwas like a lot, but it was like

(25:07):
you wanted to go on a date, so.
But there's also a lot of datesthat also didn't get like
filmed or not filmed, like shown.

Speaker 1 (25:16):
Airtime, Airtime yeah , I mean it was like bowling.

Speaker 4 (25:19):
So is that why you were having anxiety?
Was the desire to go on these?

Speaker 3 (25:27):
dates and like what you have to do in order to go.
It was like the desire just togo, like go on a date and then
constantly get almost likerejected and I'm just like, oh,
am I ugly?
Yeah, it's like, is theresomething wrong with me and it
just?
Maybe I didn't push hard enough, maybe I wasn't that
interesting, don't know, don'treally care at this point, but I

(25:48):
just like it kind of hurt myego, right, because you know,
respectfully, in our cities it'snot that hard for me to get a
guy.
It really isn't and then, cominghere, it was like, oh, like, I
guess, like face card doesn'twork here.

Speaker 1 (26:05):
Yeah, face card declined, declined we're broken,
what yeah?

Speaker 3 (26:09):
Or like my personality isn't popping Like
it kind of like it did hurt myego a bit.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 (26:15):
It's interesting, right, because this is what I
think the delusion thateverybody has in the world.

Speaker 3 (26:23):
Right, yeah, and I'm a delusional babe.
Yeah, but you know delusiondrives you places.
Yeah, yeah, you gotta fake ittill you make it.

Speaker 4 (26:31):
In the city of millions of people.
You know the 10 people thatcome up.
If you did like a statisticanalysis and you know figure the
percentage, it would be verylow and I think so in that that
context you were dealing withfour guys.
Yeah, not enough.
Which is?

Speaker 3 (26:50):
it's not enough it's like on a show, like love island
, where you that you have likeanother partner they want you,
they give you that energy back.

Speaker 1 (26:56):
Yes, and it's like these guys don't care how many
girls they end up with you ornot, because they have a backup
plan which is their girlfriend.

Speaker 2 (27:05):
Even if you look at Love Island, it's interesting
like noticing like when there'slike even like Like one more
girl than the guys right, likeall the girls are kind of like I
don't really like you that much.
You like real like on theirhigh horse, and then once it
flips, it's like the entireshift and all.
Then all the guys are like,yeah, like the guy that was in
love with this girl is kind oflike I don't know about her,

(27:27):
what about this one?
You know it's like crazy.

Speaker 1 (27:29):
And that's only with one person down, that's only
with one difference when yourguy shows like the guys there
definitely had like a power trip.
Like they thought they werelike.

Speaker 2 (27:38):
Oh yeah, because the producers oh yeah, I'm sure
producers.

Speaker 3 (27:39):
What did they get?

Speaker 1 (27:40):
No, hero, the heroes, and they literally would work
here.
I'll accidentally like what I'mthe hero of the show that's
like that's what I get on theshow I'd be like the villain
that everybody cheers for, cuzI'm funny yeah funny, yeah, hold

(28:06):
on what, what did right, right,okay, what, what did they?

Speaker 3 (28:07):
call them heroes.

Speaker 1 (28:07):
Why it's like?
Because the main character ofthe show, like they're the hero
of the show, but they took thatliterally and they're like,
since I'm the hero here on thisisland, like, and the producers
literally had to be like, stopcalling yourself the hero, like
on camera, because it's just aproducer term but I thought the
women also had the same uh,that's what we were, the others
yeah I mean no, no, no, I'msaying, I'm saying I thought

(28:32):
their wives or like partnerswere also doing the same thing
on the other side.

Speaker 4 (28:37):
Is that not?

Speaker 1 (28:38):
no, yeah, yeah yes but.

Speaker 3 (28:40):
But they didn't take it but we also had no idea what
was going on the other villa.
We would hear from, like,producers talking and saying
certain things, but like we hadno idea what was going on or
what kind of dates they weregoing on, like just nothing.
Yeah, yeah, also the single menhot they, they were like.
When we got there and we sawthe four guys on our villa, I

(29:06):
was like great, disappointed.

Speaker 2 (29:09):
Wait, they weren't that hot, or they weren't.
You're saying they weren't thathot.

Speaker 3 (29:11):
They weren't our type .
They weren't yeah, they werenot my type.
She's saying they weredisappointed by the selection of
the guys they had to dateversus Okay so when, like how we
were presented to them, we okayso when, like how we were
presented to them, we walked andthat main intro with the bikini
and stuff like that, that waslike a blind reaction.
It was a blind reaction andthen so we got to the grass and

(29:33):
then they got with their, theirpartners, and sat down in those
cabanas also.

Speaker 1 (29:38):
So fucking awkward it was.
Like the whole scene is filmedin silence and so you just hear
us like walking, and then likethe couples are just like
whispering about us like yeah,and we were strapped and we're
just trying to see what theylook like that day windy, so hot
, so so, so hot.

Speaker 3 (29:56):
We were there for hours.
My makeup was like melting offmy face like I.

Speaker 1 (30:00):
I was like Give me a hairbrush.
I watched it back and I'm likewho didn't tell me to brush my
hair?

Speaker 3 (30:06):
And we didn't eat because we were in bikinis and
like we were, trying to, likeyou know, be slay and, oh my God
, for me that was the moststressful day.

Speaker 2 (30:14):
Yeah.
So what about the guys likewasn't your type or you didn't
find attractive?

Speaker 3 (30:24):
They just like weren't like my cup of tea, like
if I saw them at a bar and wekept saying I'd let them buy me
a drink, but then I'd walk away.

Speaker 1 (30:27):
That's what they like .

Speaker 2 (30:28):
Like because they weren't attractive, or were they
like oh, they were short ortheir body wasn't good, or like.
What about them?

Speaker 3 (30:32):
I just I didn't find, I did not find them attractive
so there's ugly guys oh likemiddle of the pack, like yeah,
yeah, like I just was like justfor a netflix show, like y'all
look like.

Speaker 1 (30:46):
Yeah, you know like y'all look like, but like we
also have to think like whatcouple would sign up to do this?
It's not gonna be like rightthis is yeah, you're right.

Speaker 3 (30:54):
Yeah, this is yeah, you're right.

Speaker 4 (30:58):
Not normal people, yeah so, so would you okay, you
Okay.
I haven't watched the finale, Idon't know Okay.

Speaker 1 (31:05):
Yeah, what.
What episode did you watch too?
None of them.

Speaker 4 (31:10):
If any, okay.
Well, there was no time Betweenthe whole show dropping.

Speaker 3 (31:15):
He's booked and busy Okay.

Speaker 4 (31:17):
Before the show dropping, Olivia was here, so
then we shot the episode withher, oh before.

Speaker 1 (31:21):
And then, yeah, yeah, it was like, right, like it was
the night of oh and then, soshe couldn't say anything to you
guys probably.
Yeah, she didn't say anything.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 (31:30):
And then, and so her episode is coming out on Sunday,
and then we had you guys comein.

Speaker 2 (31:43):
So like we don, despite what people think that
you know, some people are boredand can't go on reality shows we
got shit to do, so we're busy,couldn't watch.

Speaker 4 (31:49):
Couldn't watch 10 episodes of a netflix show in
two days, but nonetheless myfriends did.

Speaker 1 (31:55):
I only hear excuses we finished it and flew to la,
had a watch party a lot in, butcome on, did this if.
But come on, did this.

Speaker 2 (32:02):
If I have a Madonnas day, I'm definitely going to
watch it.

Speaker 3 (32:05):
Like play it in the background.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (32:08):
No, I'm kind of excited to see it.
I feel like hearing all thisstuff.
It's great.

Speaker 1 (32:11):
It's not a background show, you're right.

Speaker 4 (32:14):
But if you're booked and busy like this guy, I am
fairly disappointed because I,because I wanted to see the show
, so I could like come up with,you know, certain questions that
were then I have knowledge of.
But then, since I don't pointbeing that, uh, tell, tell me
the.
Did any of the couples end upwith?

Speaker 3 (32:34):
somebody else on the show.
Did any of the couples yes?
Okay but one, two, one two, two, remember, we're thinking the
villas Weren't you guys on theshow Two who's mine I?

Speaker 1 (32:48):
don't even know what the fuck's going on.
Okay, so one or two, it doesn'tmatter.

Speaker 4 (32:52):
Two when you think of these people, do you think that
their partners were better thanthe person they ended up
choosing?

Speaker 3 (33:06):
I think Kay's better than the person they ended up
choosing.
Um, I think k is better thanthan tyler.

Speaker 1 (33:10):
Yeah, k was better than taylor, yeah, yeah tyler is
what tyler is the couple yeah,tyler and k's are like best
friend, like I'm sorry, tylerand taylor are the couple?
Yes, okay and k was one of thesingle girls who's like our best
friend, yeah Kay, yeah, yeahwhich they edited that out
completely.

Speaker 4 (33:26):
Are you biased?
Hmm, are you biased towards thefact that Kay's her?
No, I actually don't know.

Speaker 1 (33:31):
I'm just like everyone else when it comes to
the girl's house, like I nevermet them, so I just watch what.

Speaker 3 (33:45):
You're just watch what you're biased.
Yeah, I'm biased.
I like k better because I knowk.
I know, but so do I, but Idon't think there's like some
bias.
Um, oh, I think.
Yeah, I think k was betterbecause, I think she overall is
such a good person and she nevertalked bad about taylor yeah,
but tay Taylor was, but thenTaylor was going going out after
her looks and like Kay neverdid that.

(34:06):
So I think it takes it's a goodquality to have to like be the
better person and not especiallylike looks.
That's like a low blow like tonot talk about someone directly
like she's 30 like she and Kate.

Speaker 1 (34:20):
How old old is kate?
Like 25, like I don't.
Like she needs to mature up abit like 30.

Speaker 2 (34:26):
You're on the 30s happy birthday by the way.

Speaker 1 (34:28):
Happy 34th birthday, by the way shout out to this guy
happy birthday.

Speaker 2 (34:32):
It doesn't matter for guys, but I don't.

Speaker 3 (34:34):
I'm yeah, no, like the her character and her
quality as a person.

Speaker 1 (34:39):
Yeah muscle mommy though muscle when you guys
watch it.
Look at her biceps.

Speaker 2 (34:43):
I would not want to fight this girl like she would
actually yeah, kill me werethere any moments, which I'm
assuming?

Speaker 4 (34:51):
the answer to this question is yes, but I want you
to be more specific.
Were there any moments when youwere there where you asked
yourself what the fuck am Idoing here?

Speaker 1 (35:01):
oh my god, every day, every day, yeah, no, I would
like d mike, and like they'd belike can you stop doing that
where you ask yourself what thefuck am I doing here?
Oh my God, every day, every day, yeah, no, I would like D Mike
and like they'd be like, can you?

Speaker 4 (35:09):
stop doing that.
Take a deep breath, no, but whywas?
That happening to you though.

Speaker 1 (35:12):
It was just like at a certain point it's just not fun
anymore because, like I wouldtalk to the girls and stuff and
then, like once, maybe thesecond day, honestly third day I
was like I don't like theseguys, like they're not my cup of
tea and there's no, like no oneelse is coming in.
This is it?
Like?
This is all we have.
So I'm like nothing's gonnachange.

(35:32):
Like every day I'm gonna wakeup at 7 am, I'm gonna drink
tequila like twerk or something,and then give body, yeah, and
then go to bed and so I'm likethis is just so monotonous at
this point.
And then so I'm like I, what amI doing here?
So I had like a conversationwith like amaya um, who actually

(35:54):
made it to the end, but likeshe wanted to go home because
she's super religious, and soshe was like I'm like
questioning like my faith beinghere, like you know what I mean.
Like she was calling god, likewe like d might and we had such
a long talk and I'm like I'mgonna go home and she's like I
want to go home too.
But I think, like everyone, atsome point if you weren't like

(36:14):
talking to the guys because veryearly on they kind of just like
booed the fuck up and then likedidn't have their heads turned
or anything, so like that wasset pretty early on, that, like
we weren't gonna go on dates orlike do anything with these men.
So I'm like I, I begged Ibegged.

Speaker 3 (36:31):
Some of the guys I'm like, please like eliminate me.
I said no, they were like no,and I'm like I wanted to, so she
leaves, she gets eliminated.
Oh my god.
And then I was like that was mybitch and I'm like can I do
this?
And then I was like I don'tthink I could do this.

(36:53):
I was like please eliminate me.
Were you, so bored I was sobored and it's just very mundane
and I'm not going on dates.

Speaker 1 (37:03):
No one's like interested to get to know me.
There's only so much you cantalk about with these guys If
you're not doing anything newwith them.
It's just like how are youfeeling?
Yeah, like in seven differentways.
So.

Speaker 3 (37:12):
I was like okay, so like how drunk can I get on?

Speaker 4 (37:15):
the show.

Speaker 1 (37:16):
New challenge, new challenge, self challenges.

Speaker 4 (37:19):
Yeah Like mentally when will they stop me?

Speaker 3 (37:24):
oh, but the daria daria was like oh my god, shout
out daria, shout out daria.
Oh my god, that girl was sowell, a blast in the glass like
she like was like, yeah,alcoholic on the show.
Yeah, she no.
But that that's my girl.
I love her.
She just does not care and itjust gets so obliterated and

(37:46):
it's just like a wild card.
But I love that for her.

Speaker 1 (37:49):
Like she just like goes.
We would have gotten like shetook my bed when I got
eliminated, she came in, so it'skind of like they passed the
torch.

Speaker 4 (37:57):
Yeah, the alcoholic.
When did she get eliminated?
Four days after the boys itsounds like you got eliminated
because you just simply did notgive a fuck.

Speaker 1 (38:18):
You like, you were like these should I say the
tyler thing that they didn'tshow?
Yes, what?
I did tell us the things thatthey didn't show okay, so okay,
basically, on the show they kindof edited it.
I was like they make me looklike a fucking loser, like no
friends, because in my speechwatch it it's pretty iconic
because I just like talk about,I'm like I don't like any of you

(38:40):
guys and I came here formargaritas and whatever but in
real life they like edit out myspeech because I'm like and I
love my girls, they edit thatout.
And then they edit out anyinteraction I had with anyone,
like any girl.
I'm like I look like a loser,like, and then they put in a
clip of me holding like k'snotebook when everyone's dancing

(39:01):
.
So it just looks like I have anotebook while everyone's
dancing, like I'm like why,who's like plotting for my
downfall?
Like they're twerking, havingfun and I'm like holding a
notebook like I'm scared.
But okay, pretty much I havehis best friends.
I became.
They made reba look like alunatic.
Yeah, I was like what the hell?

(39:24):
Reba's an obvious choice forall of us.
It's the bitch holding thenotebook while everyone's
dancing, like right, but okay,pretty much, okay, nerd.
Who's the nerd?
Literally?
Um, but pretty much, okay,she's the one that left with
tyler.
Um, I became like best friendswith her like very early on,

(39:47):
like that was my ride or die, um.
So basically, context withtyler he was married like very
early, like 18 um, and hisex-wife left him for a woman and
then he jumped into this likeother relationship whatever,
like yada, yada.
So pretty much like me and kwere so close, like when she

(40:07):
wasn't with tyler she was withme, and then I started hearing
that he was telling everyonethat he was threatened by me and
k's relationship because it'sreminding him of his marriage.
So I'm like it is crazy,because I actually gave this guy
my bracelet but he was like hewas scared that I was like
taking his girl and I'm like areyou kidding?
I'm like I would have you couldtalk to me too, like please.

(40:30):
And then I'm also so.
I'm also a single like, but hewas, he was telling people that
like, he was like he thinks thatme and k have something going
on like a stronger emotionalconnection than him and her do,
and it was just like littlethings.
This is alleged, by the way,this is word of mouth, but it

(40:52):
adds up to me like um.
But there's just like momentslike um, I don't know they were
playing twister or something,see weird shit.
And then, um, kay was like Reba, come down here.
And then when I went down there, she's like when I said that,
tyler just said like we don'tneed her here.
So it wasn't even like thisgirl's doing nothing.

(41:12):
It kind of felt more like wehate her, we hate her not just
nothing like an actual dislikefor me, um they booted my girl
off the show and then, likenikki asked like they show a
clip of me.
Oh my god, this is.
I was fucking dying at thisclip.
They show, like when they'retalking about the elimination,

(41:32):
they were like tyler was likeI'm more interested in getting
rid of the individuals that aredoing nothing.
And then it's just dramaticmusic and it cuts to me like
laughing and I'm like why arethey doing this to me?
Loser.

Speaker 4 (41:48):
But like.

Speaker 1 (41:48):
I knew it was elimination.
They didn't say elimination wascoming.
But like I did my confessionalthat morning and I'm like I fear
it's elimination and I knowTyler's going to like actively
try to send me home.
And then Nikki asked him likeif like tonight's elimination,
like who are you try to send mehome?
And then Nikki asked him likeIf like tonight's elimination,
like who you gonna send home?
And he was like Reba, so likeit was like an active thing.

(42:11):
But that's like a wholestoryline that they like cut out
completely.
And since they didn't show thatstoryline like part of that,
they just cut out me and Kay'slike friendship completely to
don't have been a greatstoryline.
I think it's better than whatimagine you steal the girl away.

Speaker 2 (42:23):
That would be crazy, that would be insane, that would
be a whole plot twist.

Speaker 1 (42:30):
That's what I'm saying.
I'm like, put that in, put thatin creative direction.
I have notes.
What a twist, yeah, what atwist.
But yeah, they edit out so muchI don't even know.

Speaker 3 (42:42):
I skipped over a lot of parts like yeah, I just only
was there to see me and thenthat that was it yeah, okay,
let's, let's.

Speaker 4 (42:50):
What's the religious girl's name?

Speaker 3 (42:52):
amaya yeah amaya amaya amaya.

Speaker 4 (42:55):
Um, what was?
What was going on with her?
She was.
She was one of the contestantsas well, yeah, yeah and what was
she saying?

Speaker 3 (43:09):
well, she's super sweet girl.
I love her.
She's so bubbly, so personable,like she's amazing outfits are
t outfits?

Speaker 1 (43:13):
are t body's tea?

Speaker 4 (43:13):
yeah, yeah, body is tea.
What the are you?
What language are you speaking?
What gen z baby?

Speaker 1 (43:17):
it's like this is our tick tock like brain, like
brain we're brain rot.

Speaker 3 (43:21):
We're so brain rot.
My Shayla but that was actuallymy Shayla.
I loved her, but very religious, and she got paired with Breon,
oh my God.

Speaker 1 (43:32):
Who's?

Speaker 3 (43:33):
the villain of the show.
Because he was obsessed withthreesomes, yeah.

Speaker 1 (43:37):
He was ready to give it his all the second he stepped
into her villa.

Speaker 3 (43:41):
He's like I'm ready to cheat Yep, like he's like
which two?

Speaker 1 (43:48):
But babe, like don't make it that obvious.
Three sums were hard yeah.

Speaker 4 (43:52):
Oh, really it happened, yeah, wow.

Speaker 1 (43:55):
Of course, yeah, obviously, people put in work.

Speaker 2 (43:58):
It wasn't us.
I feel like this guy played thegame right?

Speaker 1 (44:00):
no he's, he's getting so much hate right now yeah,
yeah, but but he had a threethumbs, though that's pretty
sick.

Speaker 3 (44:07):
Right you signed.
This is what you signed up for.
Yeah, I like, like, don't feelbad, because it's like you're
you own up your act, you own upto your actions, like you're a
human being and you're an adult,like but some people like being
the villain like they say theydon't like.

Speaker 2 (44:24):
Oh, I get so much hate, but like no, I think you
should enjoy it.

Speaker 3 (44:27):
Yeah, if that's how they made it.
Yeah, up then, go for it, run,run with it, like you know, like
I his girl is getting like themost hate because she took him
back at that.

Speaker 2 (44:37):
Yeah, yeah she took him back, so everyone's like oh
I'm sure, yeah, yeah, which isironic and like not really fair,
but that does happen when it'slike, yeah, you were kind of the
victim, but you're stillgetting like, but even even the
boys in the other villa, thesingle boys.
They were telling her every daythis he, brian's a bad guy like

(45:00):
do not get back with him, don'tget back with him, and it just
never like got through yeah,some people think with their
heart you know what I mean yeah,but like, but unfortunately, at
what?

Speaker 3 (45:09):
point like how many times do you have to get
disrespected and how many timesdo you have to get insulted?

Speaker 1 (45:15):
yeah, because her point was like he would never do
this in real life.
I'm like, babe, I fear this isreality right now, like yeah,
like this is, this is, this isreality.

Speaker 3 (45:25):
You're taking this with you into the real world.

Speaker 2 (45:29):
Yeah, yeah, and it just never got something to like
if it's like if you're notcheating, it's either because a
you're against cheating, likemorally, or b you just see, like
see no reason to cheat becauseyou're in like a great
relationship or whatever.
But the problem with b is itmeans they could cheat at any
moment if the relationship getsbad.
Or it's like okay if he'scheating on the show, that means

(45:50):
he's not morally really againstcheating, which means even if
you take him back and oh, it's areal world, but like okay with
it.

Speaker 3 (45:56):
He, he was okay with it and I remember having this
conversation that it was more oflike a control thing, like a
power thing, like um, he knewhis um shantae was never gonna
cheat on him.
So, knowing that, obviously,like you're like, but I could
cheat and I know she will alwaystake me back, he said that.

(46:17):
So that's why it's like I'mokay with it, like I'll do it,
because I know she will alwaystake me back.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 (46:24):
So Shantae didn't cheat on him and saw him
cheating on the other side and,like she never did anything.

Speaker 1 (46:32):
No, she just like cried in a bush, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (46:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (46:35):
Like it was weird, she like walked into a bush.

Speaker 3 (46:37):
Yeah, they were very, she was very emotional.

Speaker 1 (46:46):
And they were very.
She was very emotional and like, but not emotional enough?

Speaker 3 (46:48):
not, I would be.
Yeah, oh, my god, we'll take.
This is gonna be bad girls clubyeah, if I see my man cheat
like that's over, like yeah yeah, I disrespected.
Once you're done, you're doneto me.
Yeah, I don't handle this.

Speaker 1 (47:01):
She didn't give a reaction.

Speaker 3 (47:02):
Yeah, yeah you only have one chance with me.
Like done, yeah, so okay, so,so, okay.

Speaker 4 (47:09):
How does the religious girl fit into amara,
into all this amaya, amaya, soso?

Speaker 3 (47:15):
it because also brian's religious as well, um,
they formed a connection andbecause she's, she's also really
fun, really bubbly like briannais the threesome guy.

Speaker 1 (47:25):
Yes, oh, he's religious okay yeah, yeah so,
but yeah, there's a whole linethat angel said about him being
religious yeah, he contradictshimself because he's.

Speaker 4 (47:35):
I mean, the irony is wild yeah it's crazy uh-huh yeah
, so she's very different to him.

Speaker 3 (47:41):
So he, you know, like she's a very pure soul so like
he's attracted to that soobviously it's almost like I
guess he was trying to likecorrupt her or something she's a
beautiful girl.
So it's like you know you getattracted to that yeah, right
and then obviously, amaya standson the bible, not business.

Speaker 1 (47:58):
The bible, yeah so yeah, like I mean, yeah, there
was a point even like he asked.
I think in the show he only, itonly showed him asking Amaya on
a date and she was like no,after the threesome, and like he
crashed out on everything.
But like didn't he ask likeeveryone on a date and everyone
said no, yeah, we all said no.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (48:31):
So what, the one opportunity you had on a date
you said no to at this, were youincluded on?
Did he ask yeah, at this point,at this point, I was like so
fed up.
I was like I really I'm not,don't really care to go on a
date, like I'm not that, likedesperate, and especially if you
like saw me and you weren'tattracted to me, and then
towards the end, like you weregonna give me an opportunity for
a date just because like yeah,I'm good, he went on it alone,
right?
yeah, he went on the date alone.
Like I'm good, like I'm not,your second, third, fourth,
fifth option no, it would beembarrassing.

Speaker 1 (48:52):
I'm not.
Yeah, I'm not a pity option.
Imagine saying yes aftereveryone else said no.
All the other girls would belike what the hell, I'm not that
desperate to go on a date, likeon that one opportunity, I'm
good yeah yeah, okay, there's.

Speaker 4 (49:09):
There's just like so much going on.
I have like thoughts, just likeblowing up my mind.
Um, if, if you guys were incommitted relationships, which
I'm assuming you have been inthe past- it's been a while
while Yep.
Which we'll get to.
There's like so much I want tocover.
Would you, if you had gone onthis show, would you have?

Speaker 1 (49:32):
Oh, as a couple.

Speaker 4 (49:34):
Yeah, like with your, like let's pick, like one of
your ex-boyfriends or somethingShout out, dundee.
Would you have cheated or doyou think that you would have
stayed faithful?

Speaker 1 (49:48):
I think if we got to the point that we're going on
temptation island, it's over.
The relationship is, I thinkit's over as soon as you go on
the show.

Speaker 3 (49:54):
You want it.
You want to cheat like this isyeah, you want to get there and
obviously use this experience tomeet other people, but you're
going to cheat like I just knowmy I'm thinking about my
ex-boyfriends.

Speaker 2 (50:10):
I wouldn't they walk on tv I first of all like that's
why I got sent home yeah, butlike well it does get to the
point of like okay, if you'retrying to like, save your
relationship yeah, like youthought like let's go to like,
instead of like relationshipcounseling, now let's go on
reality that's definitely gonnawork, yeah yeah, that was mark

(50:32):
walberg.

Speaker 3 (50:33):
Daddy shout out um, but he was an amazing like.
He's like a therapist.
Yeah, he gives the most amazingadvice he seems like he was
he's amazing like I when I wouldspeak to him and he would speak
to the couples and stuff likethat there's a lot that wasn't
shown on camera like he givesthe most thoughtful and like

(50:56):
advice ever yeah so but like,still like the option that let's
go on an island and like let'sjust cheat on each other and to
see, if you know, we still gotit.
Like what?
Like no, it's done no, Iwouldn't no I wouldn't right in
my relationship.
No way at all.
No, it's done which no Like Iwouldn't.
No, I wouldn't threaten myrelationship?

Speaker 1 (51:14):
No way At all.
No, it's done.
Which is crazy Because couplesthey have Brianna and John Terry
together.

Speaker 3 (51:19):
Like for that to happen to strengthen the
relationship.
What do you mean?

Speaker 4 (51:25):
What do you think, brianna?
His name is Brianna, yeah.

Speaker 1 (51:28):
His name is Brianna.

Speaker 4 (51:29):
Yeah, it brings to the table that is creating this,
this attachment and this sortof loyalty on Ashanti's end.

Speaker 3 (51:41):
Like what attracts her to stay.
He must swing the dick reallygood, cause, like right, I mean
probably, I don't know, butprobably.
But like attractive he's tallin finance.
Like, but probably.
But like attractive he's tallIn finance, like very manly.

Speaker 1 (51:58):
But also like I feel like she's probably like I can
fix him and like he can getbetter.
So I think she has this likeweird emotional attachment to
him Right, that like he'llchange For me Because he must
have been been like good in thebeginning with her, and then
he's just like he wantsthreesomes now and she's like
I'll get him back, like so likeI don't know because he had like
a tough childhood growing upand stuff.

(52:21):
So she probably, like probably,says everyone else like he's a
really good guy, like you justdon't know him as well as I do
yeah, which I'm pretty sure shedid say that yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (52:31):
But it's like I, it just doesn't change.
Like you can't hold on to thefact that he might be a better
person.

Speaker 1 (52:37):
He might, he might yeah, people don't change unless
they want to.
She actually seemed like shewas dragged on the show, like
she seemed like she did not wantto be there at all so she
essentially is sort of waitingfor this hopeful change that
that essentially is never goingto come yeah, um, how are you

(52:58):
going to handle criticism andpotential sort of negative
comments when when people callyou?

Speaker 3 (53:06):
it's crazy because we did like a coping course for
like hate comments and likebefore the show came out yeah,
we were all on a zoom sessionand literally his advice was
like breathe, the.
The advice was just so liketake a breath, yeah, they're
like.
They're like wake up early inthe morning, meditate, and we're

(53:28):
like this is like advice thatI'm calling me ugly on instagram
.

Speaker 2 (53:31):
I'm not gonna meditate about it, right like
I'm coming back at you bro, yeah, yeah just know, I'm meditating
right now like it's just likeyou, just don't look.

Speaker 3 (53:44):
You don't look at the hateful comments?

Speaker 1 (53:46):
no, because we we both have gone like viral on,
like tiktok before and like I'vegotten like oh, I got, I got so
much hate yeah.

Speaker 3 (53:53):
On this other like viral show that I did.
Yeah, so much hate because I'ma very blunt person.

Speaker 1 (54:00):
Yeah, and.

Speaker 3 (54:00):
I know what I like.
So like yeah, it was just likethis girl is fatherless.
Like, yeah, this girl is this.
That like you set the log, thatlike you said the logo right
and ugly, and I'm like honestly,like if this wasn't happening
to me, like I don't really care,like bring on the hate comments
, it doesn't really take a tollon me.
I just don't look at it.

(54:21):
Like cyber bullying isn't real.

Speaker 2 (54:22):
You just don't look at it, yeah like yeah, the
reality is, I've never known asingle successful person who
comments on instagram like I'venever like dude, this guy's a
millionaire and he's justfucking all in his basement.

Speaker 1 (54:38):
No like, think of any of your normal friends.
Have they ever left a hatecomment on someone's video?
No, I mean, that's the thing.

Speaker 2 (54:45):
The reality is if anything, all that's gonna do is
boost your.
Have you heard of rage bait forsocial media?

Speaker 3 (54:50):
yeah, yeah, it's just like all that's gonna do is
boost the algorithm up for youso, like it's only gonna bring
it on, yeah, like, yeah, like itdoesn't, like you know, any
attention is attention there'speople that hire agencies to
intentionally post negative,controversial things in their
posts to get them to go viral.

(55:11):
Like that's a thing really soyou should be, you should be
like oh my god, that's a sickjob, just hating and getting
paid, that's sick.

Speaker 4 (55:21):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'd love to be that sign me up do
you guys think that there's the,the, there's the presence of
tempting scenarios artificiallyin this setup, actually test
people's bonds, or do you thinkthis is realistic in real life,

(55:44):
like the way that the show sortof created this artificial
temptation essentially?

Speaker 3 (55:49):
Yeah, everything that we did was real, like the
tempting wise, like, yeah,because it's like you pretend
the cameras are not there.
And then after a while, likeit's like you're act, this is
how you're interacting and yeah,that's if that.

Speaker 1 (56:06):
If they wanted to cheat, it doesn't matter where,
like you are what location, likeyou're gonna do it, it is a
good like test of theircharacter in like real life.
Because like if this was likereal life, it would be like if I
send my man to like a bar and Isent 12 girls, like one at a
time, to go ask him for hisnumber, like it depends, like
would he crack or not.
So like that is like in theshow.

(56:28):
It's like 12 girls go up to youlike are you gonna crack or not
?
so like I think it is, like agood testament to how they would
like respond in real life,because if they cheat on the
show, but the bizarre thing islike it's like cheating, but
there's a hundred percent chanceyou're gonna get caught
cheating.

Speaker 2 (56:44):
Yeah, like it's like if you're about to rob a store
and there's like a cop standingright behind you and you're just
like, fuck it, I'm still gonnarob this like it's like crazy
it's temptation island.

Speaker 3 (56:52):
They're like yo like to us.
They're like make them cheat,like there's an initiative make
them cheat, you know so likeit's kind of like you're, you're
coming to the island.
Bad things are happening yeahyou know that.

Speaker 2 (57:07):
Yeah, did you guys come in thinking of, like, what
your strategy was going to be tomake the guys cheat?
You know what I mean Like.

Speaker 3 (57:13):
OK.
So I wanted to find like apartner Right, and then I came
there and then I saw them andI'm like we're still single.

Speaker 1 (57:24):
Yeah, we're still single.

Speaker 3 (57:27):
And I'm leaving single and let's get to the
cheating.
Like you know, so like.

Speaker 4 (57:33):
But I don't understand, though, like you,
the mentality that you wanted tofind a partner.
Wouldn't that like, like the,the fact that these guys were
gonna cheat on their partners inorder to be with you?
Wouldn't that be a red flag tobegin with?

Speaker 3 (57:49):
I think so.

Speaker 1 (57:50):
I attract red flags, so whatever it's another day for
me in real life.
I might as well just right,yeah, so like but I thought I
was gonna.

Speaker 3 (58:01):
I actually like find someone, and the second I saw
them I'm like no, this ain'thappening wait, but what, what
like?

Speaker 2 (58:09):
you keep saying that, but like what they just like.
What is your type versus whatthe type was on the show?

Speaker 3 (58:13):
Okay, so my type is like Jacob Elordi or like a
Habibi, like tall, like brunette.
I love like an exotic man,maybe an accent Love, a good
accent.
Yeah, he loves British people.
Just I love the British people,but it's just was like I.
These are just normal dudes.

Speaker 2 (58:34):
Normal dudes, normal American white boy.

Speaker 3 (58:36):
Right.

Speaker 2 (58:37):
Just two.
You need some spice.

Speaker 3 (58:39):
I needed some spice.
Yeah, you look like a manly man.

Speaker 1 (58:42):
These guys are like I love Also older.

Speaker 3 (58:45):
I love an older man yes, she does, and like 34.
Like daddies 34 is the best.

Speaker 4 (58:55):
34, like daddy's, like where's the mid 30s and 40s
guys?

Speaker 1 (58:57):
but not there and I'm like uh, how old were these
guys like in their 20s, 20s,early 30s?

Speaker 2 (59:00):
I think 28 was the oldest one, no 28 is a cutoff
for reality, like they literallywon't even look at you if
you're over 28, wait buddygolden bachelor shauna and then
mishana shantae shantae, I'mlike, who are you even talking
about the?

Speaker 4 (59:13):
30, who's 30 years old, one of the girls you said
she's 30, she's 30 now.

Speaker 2 (59:18):
She was 29, she's older than the boyfriend okay
yeah, okay, interesting so thenwas yours the same thing you
like, the more like exotic no, Ilove like a pretty fruity boy
like I.

Speaker 1 (59:28):
So like they, like I don't know they were sensitive
but their ego was just too bigfor me and like they're just not
my type either.

Speaker 4 (59:35):
Like did any of the guys not cheat?

Speaker 3 (59:39):
yeah, yeah, leno, yeah leno stayed loyal.

Speaker 1 (59:43):
Leno is the guy who wanted you out I mean, it's the
clip tyler's, the one thatactively got it but leno was the
one shown in the clip.
That was like reeve is theobvious one.

Speaker 3 (59:53):
I chose leno.
I put the bracelet on leno, butit was like you were fucked
from the beginning because heknew like he got engaged at the
end he, he wanted to get marriedand I had no idea that was his
prerogative until somebody waslike, yeah, like he's gonna get
married to alexa, and I was likechat, yeah, like we were
barking up the wrong tree.

Speaker 1 (01:00:11):
No, I chose the wrong person.

Speaker 3 (01:00:13):
Yeah, yeah, because I was out of all the boys, I was
mostly attracted to him BecauseI'm like, okay, brunette Italian
, like he's fine, he's a goodlooking guy.
And then I got to talk to himand it was more of like he's
looking for, like just to have afriend, and I'm like yeah, this
isn't.

Speaker 1 (01:00:31):
let's like I'm just going to take everyone on a
friend date and we're like yeah,and I was like, ooh, like I
chose the wrong person, yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:00:38):
So Lino essentially got everything thrown at him and
ended up coming on top.

Speaker 1 (01:00:42):
Yeah, yeah, he probably looks the best out of
all the guys, yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:00:47):
Yeah, you think that the girls tried even harder
because of how he looked and thefact that nobody was able to
get him?
Or do you think, like girls,after like the first or second,
they stopped trying because theythought I'm?

Speaker 3 (01:01:01):
not he, the girls were trying.
Yeah, I was trying the girl inquestion, the girl in question,
yeah, I was trying and it was,like you know, like trying to
get him like fucked up and, likeyou know, have a good time,
like, and like he just wasn'tbutchering and I'm like god,
like this is not gonna work hedid like like one girl, like

(01:01:21):
alex, he liked alex, yeah, youcould tell like he liked her
yeah but she didn't like him,she liked brianne.

Speaker 1 (01:01:27):
yeah, so you know that You're always chasing
someone that doesn't like you?

Speaker 2 (01:01:32):
Yeah right, the universe just didn't want it to
happen.

Speaker 3 (01:01:34):
Tale as old as time, yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:01:37):
Okay, let's talk about your relationship history
real quick.
Come on, that is, it seems likeyou have the most traumatic
experience so far, so we'llstart with you.

Speaker 3 (01:01:56):
Yeah, situationships.
So my last relationship, okay,we're in 2025.
It was 2022.
I think three years ago.

Speaker 4 (01:02:08):
We were in there, so I'm not sure.

Speaker 3 (01:02:10):
Three years ago, I'm trying to do the math.
Three years ago, three, fouryears ago.
That was't there, so I'm notsure.
Three years ago I'm trying todo the math.

Speaker 4 (01:02:14):
Three years ago, three, four years ago.
That was your last, that was mylast.
22 and 2025 would be three.

Speaker 1 (01:02:18):
With the.

Speaker 3 (01:02:18):
Brit, yeah with the Brit.
Yeah, fuck that man.
Yeah, that's a story as well.

Speaker 4 (01:02:24):
You weren't even there.

Speaker 3 (01:02:29):
No, she was there um, but we I have them blocked on
everything.

Speaker 4 (01:02:34):
Yeah why is that what happened?

Speaker 3 (01:02:36):
uh well oh my god well honestly, I don't believe
in becoming friends with your exafter you date.
Yeah, I think there's always.

Speaker 4 (01:02:46):
I don't know how people do it, I think, a lot of
my exes.

Speaker 1 (01:02:48):
I'm not, I'm not, I don't talk, yeah there's,
because this is but this is mything, though to people but, not
everyone right.

Speaker 3 (01:02:57):
Well, you build this whole relationship with somebody
, just want to throw it out inthe backyard, you know but this
is my thing though okay, soyou're you're friends with your
ex and they're dating a newperson, there's always gonna be
like a little like just feelingthat you wish they break up

(01:03:17):
always there's always gonna bethat feeling and that's like a
monitoring spirit.
Like that I don't want I cut.
We had an experience, great, itdidn't work out okay, but leave
me alone.
We're not talking and we'redone, yeah, yeah, that was a
great point in my life that wewere together, we shared so much
five years.

Speaker 1 (01:03:35):
I could be friends with them like if we didn't
speak for like five years.

Speaker 3 (01:03:38):
I'm not not even then , I don't want anything to do
with you anymore, like you'redone.
So I'm not friends with any ofmy exes and they're happily
doing their lives and I'm happydoing mine but sometimes it's
nice, like you get in a breakup,you're still friends with one
of your exes.

Speaker 2 (01:03:51):
Then you start seeing each other again.

Speaker 3 (01:03:52):
It's kind of fun?
No, not at all.
I guess the guys that I datedwere like they're evil they're
narcissists, Except for one guy.
But that was like back in likehigh school.
All of them were not.

Speaker 2 (01:04:09):
See, gen Z makes up words Like when I was growing
growing up, we just called themassholes who are liars.
You guys are like thisnarcissist sociopath was
gaslighting me like.
You guys are acting like theseguys are a phd in psychology and
they're like puppeteering yourmind or something that's what?

Speaker 3 (01:04:23):
well, that's what happened to me.
Like we had such a greatrelationship, me and I, I don't
even say his name the mean britand it just I don't know like it
just started getting worse andworse and I think his friends
were talking too much into hisear, like and then we just
started getting really toxic andfighting all the time and then

(01:04:46):
to the point where it was likeit was the hardest decision I
ever had to do in my life,because I thought I was gonna
marry this guy and I was young,he was older and it was kind of
unfair because he lived his life, he got to do everything, and
then he wanted to really likesettle down and I was still
exploring myself, I still waslike there's so much more to

(01:05:09):
life than being in thisrelationship, so I had to break
up with him.
And it was the hardest decisionof my life because I didn't like
I loved him and then I likeremembered that breakup was so
brutal to me, like I wasn't well, and then fast forward, um like
two.
I didn't talk to him for like ayear and then we started like

(01:05:32):
slowly like reaching out throughinstagram, whatever, no, two
years so instagram.
Then we were in kind of intalking maybe we should get back
together, whatever, because Istill didn't find anybody like
that I connected with yeah, sofast.
Um, I mean, I met this guy aweek later.
We started dating like that'show quick and that's how I knew

(01:05:55):
I wanted to be with this guy.

Speaker 1 (01:05:57):
And then he's, he hit you up, he hit you up no way
yeah so basically mel, when wewent out one night, like mel and
her diabolical mood, she losther phone at the club and but
she was gonna find a way todrink.

Speaker 3 (01:06:15):
Call her ex so one thing about me is that nx hates
to see me call up 20 times.

Speaker 1 (01:06:21):
Yeah so she took my phone and then called maybe like
three guys from my instagram 20times and then like just a
normal friday night for me, thenyou left and I'm like great.
Now they're gonna think I'mcrazy.
It looks like it's from me.
So basically this guy, the brit, messaged me and he's like was

(01:06:42):
that my?

Speaker 3 (01:06:43):
ex that yeah, were you hanging out too, which is
crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:06:46):
And I was like yeah, haha.
And then he was like that's toobad, like I wish it was you
calling me, and then damn andthen blocked is she and I told
you because I wasn't sure if Ishould tell you, because I'm
like I'm not gonna do, likewe're both such girls, girls,
like I wasn't gonna do anythingabout it, like that would have
been like it, but I wasn't sureif I would hurt you more telling
you or hurt you like nottelling you, no, you gotta tell

(01:07:08):
yeah, and I did, she did and I,you saw at work, I was like oh
my god that was awful.

Speaker 3 (01:07:13):
I'm like in mid-shift and I saw red I was like oh my
god, I literally the worldstopped.
And then I saw red she blockshim.
And then I sent the meanestmessage you could ever say to
someone, like the meanestmessage it delivered.
He saw it.
I blocked him off everything,that's it.
You never yeah like that's amean message in a block.

(01:07:37):
Yeah, I said what I said and itwas.
It was really mean.
But you literally come after myfriend, after you tell me you
love me and like all theexperiences that we shared
together and that youpotentially want to date me, and
you're hitting on my friend.
Yeah, I was like we're done.

Speaker 1 (01:07:55):
That's pretty wild, like he knew that you're gonna
find out potentially, and it'slike probably why he did it for
a day, for a dig, yeah, and Iwas like you're never gonna have
access to me, ever again.

Speaker 3 (01:08:06):
And guess what?
You're gonna be seeing meforever.

Speaker 1 (01:08:09):
That's like we're on a time square billboard no, yeah
, like you were going to beseeing me forever.
That's like my job.

Speaker 3 (01:08:13):
We're on a Times Square billboard no, yeah, like
you are going to be talkingabout me to every ex that you
ever had.
Yeah, imagine that.

Speaker 4 (01:08:20):
Okay, how long were you guys together?

Speaker 3 (01:08:23):
He's feeling the heat .
He's feeling the heat.
We were together for about ayear.
I've never surpassed more thana year with any of my boyfriends
.
I think the year mark thatscares me is like when I know I
want to stay with you or not.
I've never made it past sixmonths.

Speaker 4 (01:08:37):
Okay, mel, I'm going to say something before I
continue with the line ofquestioning.
Okay, I think you're great.

Speaker 3 (01:08:44):
Oh, thank you.

Speaker 4 (01:08:48):
I think you're a lovely person as a human being,
but you clearly have okay.
The following is not to dig atyou and I'm not trying to
disrespect you say it with yourchubs.

Speaker 3 (01:09:06):
I appreciate hard love.

Speaker 4 (01:09:07):
Give it to me at one point and this kind of across
the board, a lot of people havethis issue where they um, might,
not might, and and you mightknow this already might not
realize that they are theproblem and not everybody else,
and and it and it seems.
Then again, I, I don't, I don'tknow enough about you to make

(01:09:29):
this judgment.
However, based upon the verylittle information you have
given so far, it sounds likeeither you're picking up trash
along the way, more so than youare going to Whole Foods to
purchase food.

Speaker 3 (01:09:45):
Right.

Speaker 4 (01:09:45):
Or you are the trash can.

Speaker 1 (01:09:54):
Chat, like and comment.
Am I the?

Speaker 3 (01:09:57):
trash can.
Okay, so no, I appreciate youlike putting me in my place,
like.

Speaker 4 (01:10:06):
I like that.

Speaker 3 (01:10:07):
Yeah, because it shows that you care, right,
right, I don't know about that.

Speaker 4 (01:10:11):
Of course of course.

Speaker 3 (01:10:24):
Does he give a fuck?
But yeah, because it shows thatyou care, right, right, I don't
know about that, of course, ofcourse, but yeah, even my
brother was like you are areally hard person to date, and
I know that and I'm working onthat and, like my next future
relationship who knows I do Iwill say I think your problem is
like guys, this is come at meokay yeah, yeah, I got one lined
up, don't worry well, yourproblem is your taste in men is
garbage like.

Speaker 1 (01:10:43):
You know what they're like and yet you still pursue.
I do the same thing, that's why, we're best friends because
we're like next week we're likehow, how's your situation?
Ship over same like roster.

Speaker 2 (01:10:55):
Yeah, well, here's the reality.
The reality is okay like you'vesaid.
You kind of agreed with it likeoh, every guy date is a
narcissist, or like nine out often is a narcissist.
Narcissism is like one percentof the population, which means
there's something about you thatis attracted to narcissistic
guys and maybe you don't likenarcissists, but there's

(01:11:18):
something about I grew up with.

Speaker 3 (01:11:20):
I grew up with one.
My father was a narcissist soit's a pattern.
It's a pattern, acomfortability with a pattern I
love a very confident man thatcontrols the room and like hard
to get like and you want to likeRight, get them to see you like
they see themselves.

Speaker 1 (01:11:37):
You know what I mean?
Yeah, so it's attractive to belike.

Speaker 3 (01:11:40):
Yeah, because my dad narcissist, so you know they
have that thing.
It's like you go for someonethat's like your father.

Speaker 1 (01:11:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:11:47):
So I respect confidence, but to a point where
it's like I remember all myfriends were like why are you
going for these guys?
Yeah, Like they're assholes andI'm like, and I don't see it,
but I still deal with it.

Speaker 1 (01:12:01):
Yeah, I see it and I still deal with it.

Speaker 2 (01:12:03):
And I see it, but you were like I don't like it I can
change him, like I'm, likewe're on the same level.

Speaker 1 (01:12:13):
Yeah, you know, like, yeah, you just want them to
like want you and they're likehard to get and like they're so
good at like bread crumbing, youlike giving you enough
attention and then like pullingaway because they don't really
give a fuck.
But then you just think thatone day they will.

Speaker 2 (01:12:24):
But they won't uh, every girl's dream, I think, is
the to find a fuck boy and thenturn them into the soulmate.
They only have eyes for you,yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:12:34):
But that doesn't happen.
Like taxi cab theory is real.
You know what that is.
No, no, it's like as soon as,like a guy is, like when the
taxi light is off, like they'renot going to date anyone and
like even if it's like theperfect girl for him, like they
won't date them.

Speaker 3 (01:12:53):
But as soon as that taxi cab like turns on, like
they'll just marry like whoever,whoever is conveniently at
their time, and they're like I'mready to settle down, you can't
, you can't fuck up like youcan't settle down with a fuckboy
until their taxi cab yeah, likeif it's off, it's off they
don't give a fuck Like so.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:13:12):
I think the reality is okay, like for girls, right,
like you guys could like pull100 dudes a night if you wanted
to.
It would be very easy, Just goto the club, true.
Literally just like body blue,you could like blink at a guy
and like have sex with him ifyou wanted to right For guys it
takes like a lot of like, likepeople don't realize this, but
like to be a good professionalfuck boy.
Takes a lot of energy and likehard work, work ethic.

(01:13:36):
You know you have to gaslightall the time.
You have to get multiple phoneplans.
Like it's annoying.

Speaker 1 (01:13:39):
It's like a hassle Actually, respectful.

Speaker 3 (01:13:44):
Not that I would know about that.
But, like for all the otherguys out there, read his book
how to be a fuck boy 101.

Speaker 2 (01:13:50):
Three easy steps.
Um, so for guys, it's like ifyou've developed a skill set to
get hot chicks, which is like areally hard skill set to develop
, like you're not just going touse it once, like imagine you
like built like the most amazingcar from scratch and you like
fucking took you like years tobuild this car.
You're not just gonna likedrive it once and be like all
right, I'm done with this carand what.

(01:14:10):
You're gonna use it likemultiple times.
I'm not saying it's right orwrong, but like but it's hard
work.

Speaker 3 (01:14:17):
But that's how it is Like if you mastered the game,
you're gonna play it all thetime.

Speaker 2 (01:14:22):
And like some of these guys like you, like guys
who have money too.

Speaker 3 (01:14:29):
So it's like in.

Speaker 2 (01:14:30):
You know, I don't even have to say it, I would
never date a broke dude.
I'm not sure.
No, absolutely I would never doa broke dude.
I don't blame you.
I don't blame you.
I got to argue with my momabout this, actually.

Speaker 3 (01:14:39):
What's your?

Speaker 2 (01:14:46):
your mom's calling you broke.
No, no, so she's like Zach inLA.
You're always dating these likeactresses or like models, like
you should date a girl with agood personality.
And so I was like, okay, mom,does there exist beautiful girls
with good personalities andthere exists ugly girls with
good personalities?
Like of course, I want thebeautiful girl with a good

(01:15:06):
personality.
Like two plus two is four right.
And then, the same way, likethere are like really good guys
who are super rich and there'slike guys who are like really
good guys but like you're gonnabe eating at wendy's the rest of
your life.
It's like, okay, between thesetwo options, of course you're
gonna want the rich guy.
Like if you can get that, youknow what?
I mean yeah, so like it makessense to me and they're always,

(01:15:27):
and that that rich guy alwayschoose the most beautiful woman
because he has that access toright Versus, especially in the
city that we live in.

Speaker 3 (01:15:39):
it's very materialistic.
It's very like you want thatrich guy and so for me those
standards have always been highbecause it's like I know what I
could get and I am rich myself.
so I want that level of likeambition and power so that we
would both level up together sothat's why, like rich guys like

(01:16:02):
I get attracted because theambition, the power that they
have, like it's hot to me like abroke man just could never like
I.
We just don't share the samework ethic or we don't share the
same mentality, because I wanteverything in the world.

Speaker 2 (01:16:17):
And the thing too, it's like okay, there's like
rich fuck boys and broke fuckboys.
It's like if you're going toget fucked over anyway like get
fucked over on your Europeanvacation.

Speaker 3 (01:16:27):
You know what I mean.
Right, right, Like.
If they're going to cheatanyways, cry in a Maserati babe.
Not in a Toyota Corolla.

Speaker 2 (01:16:34):
You wanna get fucked over at Half Price Tuesday at
Applebee's while he's holdingthe coupon book?
That fucking sucks.

Speaker 3 (01:16:39):
Asking to split the bill.

Speaker 2 (01:16:41):
Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah .

Speaker 1 (01:16:42):
Has anyone ever asked you to split the bill?
No, I don't even.
I just look down.

Speaker 3 (01:16:46):
I don't even the.
What is it?
The check?
The the, what is it?
The check comes.
Yeah, I just stare.
Yeah, same, I don't even pullout my, I don't even touch my
wall.
The fact that the check touchedthe table, yeah, you're done,
you're cut, you're cut.

Speaker 4 (01:17:00):
I shouldn't, it shouldn't even be like like
presented in front of me rudecanceled like I.

Speaker 3 (01:17:08):
No, no, no at all I agree with you.

Speaker 2 (01:17:10):
My dad is very like old school Right, so it's very
much.
Yeah, pay the bill.
Like you know, if the car iscoming and you're on the
sidewalk, you walk on the carside, so you can stop the car.

Speaker 1 (01:17:21):
Yeah, yeah but.

Speaker 3 (01:17:23):
I'm so my like type traditional.
I like a traditional, yeah, Ilike a powerful man Like I like
someone, like someone that youknow has a good job and is able
to.
I love a provider, so I know alot of people like they're like
what's wrong with you, why?

Speaker 2 (01:17:42):
but that is what I like and I feel like that is
what's gonna fit my lifestyle Iappreciate the honesty I think
every girl does, but they justpretend like they're not
supposed to want that orsomething.
Right so then they oh, I justwant guys, because they're like
super nice and like blah blah.

Speaker 3 (01:17:59):
I'm like yes, that as well.
Personality shines.

Speaker 1 (01:18:02):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:18:03):
Right.
But it's like at the end of theday, we got to think like
business yeah, you want a family, you gotta have the money to
have that right.
Like, and I want to stay athome and raise my kids, like
that is a privilege to have andI want to.

Speaker 2 (01:18:20):
You know, hone, that well, and a lot of personality
is superficial too, like if youlike a guy because he's
confident, like that's alsosuperficial right like, okay,
you can be confident and like ahuge asshole and like bad
character, but like you, likehis confidence gives you that
feeling of like oh man, this guy, like it's the same thing as if
I look at like a beautiful girland it's like, oh man, like.

(01:18:42):
You get that same feeling of ifyou look at a guy who's like
confident and has a shittogether yeah so it's like
everybody's superficial, youknow yeah, yeah, it is what it
is.

Speaker 3 (01:18:51):
Yeah, so you might as well, at the end of the day,
cry in a Porsche or in aMaserati.
We have such different types,mel.

Speaker 1 (01:18:57):
I know, but that's not me.

Speaker 3 (01:18:58):
You like broken?

Speaker 1 (01:18:59):
I'm not like traditional.
Okay, you know what's weird Ialways do end up with like a
broke bitch.

Speaker 2 (01:19:07):
Like.

Speaker 4 (01:19:07):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:19:15):
They not even a broke man, a broke bitch they are.
I'm like.
So I always end with a guythat's like kind of like a wimp,
I literally.
So I like to be mommy, like yesI know and I yell at you
literally.

Speaker 3 (01:19:20):
We facetime each other every day.
We're that close every day.
And then I always yell at her.
I'm like why are you lettingthese broke dudes like ruin your
life, like they can't even like?
I get so mad when I hear likelike a situation, ship like just
kind of like walk all over.

Speaker 1 (01:19:41):
No, because mine are also diabolical, like I'll they.
They say the most out of pocket.
I don't know what it is aboutme, but men think they could say
the most out of pocket thingsto me like what okay.
So I was like at a bar and thenthey came up to me and they're
like you look like this girl,hot shannon.
And I'm like who's hot, shannon?
And like this hot girl namedshannon we just met, but she's

(01:20:01):
way hotter than you like.
They just love to like.
Neg me like they like, orthey'll be like what do you rate
yourself?

Speaker 2 (01:20:08):
and I'll be like nine humble um, and they'll be like
nine, humble, humble and they'llbe like no seven.

Speaker 1 (01:20:14):
But I'm like why are you asking me to rate myself in
the first place, Like I don'tknow what it is?

Speaker 2 (01:20:19):
Yeah, but you also like banter.
Like you like give it back.
I.

Speaker 3 (01:20:22):
I want her to marry someone with banter.

Speaker 1 (01:20:33):
But when they said the hot Shannon conversation
anymore, like I loved it, butlike I don't know, I love the
joke, I'm like very likeunserious so I think people
think they can say whatever theywant to me, but then it
actually hurts sometimes well,at this point I'm like what the
fuck like?

Speaker 3 (01:20:42):
I'm like what?
It's straight disrespect andthey think it's funny and I'm.
And then, when I hear about it,I'm like what the fuck?

Speaker 2 (01:20:49):
like we're pulling up to this guy's house and
punching him, like that's just,it's just like I like I just
part of it might be like okay,like we have a group chat, right
, right, we just like of guysand we just trash everybody,
like like 100 out of 100 trashthem.
One time there's this othergroup chat, because there's like
a party we're organizing and weforgot some of our friends who

(01:21:10):
are girls.
Like we're in the chat andwe're like doing our like guys
group chat, yeah, but not evenflaming the girls, we're just
flaming each other yeah, andthen one of the girls like calls
me and she's like yeah, she'slike I think are you guys?
you guys are kind of bullying,claudio, right now I'm like
bullying what the, what the areyou talking about?

Speaker 1 (01:21:27):
like, this is like how we bond with each other.
It's like boys.

Speaker 2 (01:21:30):
I love him, yeah, so like I think sometimes it's like
, and maybe with you, after acertain level of banter they're
just like their brain clicksinto like how they banter with
guys and they just fucking saywhatever they want.

Speaker 1 (01:21:41):
Yeah, I will say the hot chain.
I think I didn't speak a wordto them.

Speaker 3 (01:21:44):
They came up to me girl, that was a stray a stray
that I caught, or maybe likeyour aura was giving them that.
Yeah, because you have such afriendly welcoming aura like all
my friends say that when theyfirst meet you I feel like these
guys are like well, I couldbully her right now.
Like that's like the schoolgirl cry right, like what, like,

(01:22:08):
what, like they don't do thatto me, because that just doesn't
know, because you have rbf.

Speaker 4 (01:22:13):
Like I'm scared of you, I'm sorry, let me the botox
, please kick in does a part ofyou think that maybe the reason
you only got two interviews wasbecause when they met you they
were like fall girl?

Speaker 1 (01:22:29):
really, you know what I didn't think about?
That they're like this is thegirl like.

Speaker 4 (01:22:32):
The producers are like yeah like this is what
we're gonna.
She's gonna be the oneconspiracy, I don't know, maybe.

Speaker 1 (01:22:40):
No, you know what?
No, because maybe, um, therewas a girl that came, oh, I
don't even know her name.
She did all the interviews,like our formal interview that
we did like when we wereactually there, and she got sent
home.
So wouldn't that make her thefall girl?
Well, she didn't make it on thescreen she didn't even make it

(01:23:00):
on tv, yeah no way, I don't knowcrazy yeah, there's this.

Speaker 3 (01:23:04):
You're making me think right now.
There's were options.
If so, when they finally got tomeet the entire cast at the
hotel when we arrived, becausewe had a like almost like
quarantine for a couple daysjust to, oh my birthday yeah,
happy birthday.
But um, we there was options ifpeople weren't fitting the look

(01:23:24):
or if they they just weren'tvibing with the cast or like
they didn't look good, or allthis stuff.
And that was like my biggestfear, because I knew they had
options and if I wasn't likewhat they wanted, like there was
someone going to replace meright then.
And there and they didn't tellyou that, and this girl
literally flew.
Yeah, in 12 hours, 12 hours gotpaid.

Speaker 2 (01:23:46):
Not enough, it didn't even get paid.
She didn't even make it to theshow.

Speaker 3 (01:23:50):
Yeah they, they kind of like got to meet her.
Whatever, she didn't make thecut that's crazy.

Speaker 4 (01:23:56):
Yeah, I would have fucking filed a lawsuit once I
got back.

Speaker 3 (01:24:01):
But can you imagine?
You tell all your friends andfamily I'm going on a show, I'm
going on the show, make planslike show and they just cut you
out of every scene and thenyou're watching it with your
family.

Speaker 2 (01:24:13):
Well, that's what happened.

Speaker 1 (01:24:15):
No diabolical.
Oh I wish I saw the showrunneryesterday um was he there?

Speaker 4 (01:24:21):
yeah um yeah, someone said he was um why are you
saying it like that?

Speaker 3 (01:24:27):
no, because I was trying to talk to everybody
there and I just got too fuckedup yeah yeah, fell on me.

Speaker 1 (01:24:34):
Shout out deb from love island for helping me up.
Um, no, they, they.
I watched it like at 3 am.
It came out on wednesday andI'm like I'll watch it tomorrow.
But I'm like, no, I can't sleepuntil I like see, and then they
start showing the intros of allthe girls.
I'm like, because I thoughtthey would show like five, like
the main girls who made it tothe end, but then it kept going
and I'm like, oh sick, likeeveryone's intros in this.

(01:24:56):
And then it gets to K and itjust ends and they put every
girl's intro except for mine andI was like oh my.
God, and that night we organizedlike a huge New York watch
party with like 170 people andI'm like, oh god, like what are
they?
Like 170 people are gonna likesee that my intro was cut and
I'm like I don't even want to dothis watch party, but yeah, you

(01:25:19):
saw the show.

Speaker 3 (01:25:20):
We made a promise to each other to not see the show
and have like a broke it.
Yeah, you broke it and havelike a genuine, real reaction.
She saw the whole thing.

Speaker 1 (01:25:27):
I'm glad I watched that like alone first, because I
was like mentally prepared.
Yeah, mentally prepared but Iwanted to see the show running
yesterday and be like I havequestions for you, but you
probably like I don't give afuck.
Who are you?

Speaker 3 (01:25:42):
but they cut.
They cut mine.
I had a whole like like speechof what I said.
Then I point to lena I was likeyou, uh, what was mine?
Mine was like.
My name is melissa.
Um, I'm 26 years old.
I'm a bottle girl from new yorkcity, um what was?
That's literally what you didand then, um, what was it?

(01:26:02):
It was like uh, I want to huntI always get I always get.
I always get 20 tip, buttonight I want 100 of your man's
, of yours.
But yeah they cut it where Isaid you, yeah, and then like,
then they showed me, but like itwas just kind of like I guess
my line wasn't cool enough, butI guess the you was like I want

(01:26:25):
yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:26:26):
Yeah, it's more direct, but yeah okay, well, I,
I appreciate you guys, uh,coming the show, you guys were
absolutely fantastic.
We actually should do a sequelwith you guys once you're back
in town I don't know when thatwill be In New York.
Hopefully you'll move to LA,because nothing is going on in
New York.
I feel like I fear the same, sothe final question is and this

(01:26:51):
goes to each of you, We'll startwith you, Reba what do you
consider cheating?

Speaker 1 (01:26:58):
That's a great question.
I think I don't know, because Ido believe in like emotional
cheating and I believe inphysical cheating.
I think as little as liketexting someone behind my back
is like cheating, like a girlthat like he's not telling me.

Speaker 4 (01:27:17):
What's the context of the text?

Speaker 1 (01:27:20):
just, I mean, if it's like his friend, I don't know,
but like I don't know, hangingout with a girl alone too, like
I think could be cheating.
There's like gray lines, like Idon't know.
I feel like if he's like hidingsomething from me, I don't know
if that's cheating, but likethat would raise a red flag I
have a friend who's a girl.

Speaker 4 (01:27:41):
Yeah, I go hang out with her and I'm like, hey, babe
, I'm going to hang out withthis chick.

Speaker 1 (01:27:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:27:46):
Is that cheating?

Speaker 1 (01:27:47):
Do I know about her?
Do I know her about her?
Do I know her you?
You might not know herpersonally.

Speaker 4 (01:27:55):
Why didn't you introduce me to her?

Speaker 1 (01:27:56):
you've never met, it's just the opportunity I just
met her, like three weeks ago.

Speaker 4 (01:27:58):
You a new girl yeah no like I met the girl on the
podcast oh alone.

Speaker 1 (01:28:04):
What are you guys?
Doing shooting a podcast ohwait, you're just bringing her
on the podcast no, she came onthe podcast we met.
Now we're going to like, oh,just grab lunch and like talk
you think mel, I feel like Idon't know what do you?

Speaker 3 (01:28:21):
I'm not giving you the uh I already know my answer,
but I think I mean, would youhang out with her frequently
after there's so many questions?

Speaker 4 (01:28:34):
But that's irrelevant .
I don't know what's going tohappen in the future.
I'm just going to hang out withher.
The question is is thatcheating?
Because you said hanging outwith a girl is cheating.
So I'm trying to understandlike, is that?
It sounds like you're kind ofconfused because you're trying
to figure out what's going on.
That's what it sounds like, butthat itself is not cheating.
So you would be kind of likegrilling, not cheating.

(01:28:54):
Right, yeah, right if it'sfriendly yeah, yeah, and I know
about it, I feel like more, likeI don't fuck with like
secretive stuff okay, so nowlet's say, I sat down at lunch
and I said, and I said, oh mygod, you look so pretty, did I
cheat?

Speaker 1 (01:29:13):
that's not cheating to me, but that's great.
Yeah, perfect sounds good.

Speaker 4 (01:29:17):
Let's say, uh, she, she's talking about, like, how
she's so single and how, youknow, she would have loved to be
with a guy who's like me.
And I said, oh wow, no, I'm notsaying anything and I and so I
reply and I say, oh wow, I thinkyou're great too cheating.

Speaker 1 (01:29:36):
Okay, that's the line .
Okay, got it, got it.
Why you still lunch with her?

Speaker 4 (01:29:42):
so at that point, once somebody hits on the other
person or shows interest, yes,you're either out or, if you
stay now, you're cheatingemotionally yeah I think that's
throwing a drink on her face,flip the table it took a while,
but we got there to mydefinition, understand
understand you obviously lookingat somebody else passing by
cheating.

Speaker 3 (01:30:02):
No cancel over, done kill no, no, because if you
entertain it, that's cheating.
I understand, like with my job,like I entertain people and I
flirt for money, like that'sbottle service is like that,
probably why it's hard to find aconfident person.

(01:30:25):
That's like this, that's herjob and you know, like I know,
she's not cheating Right and youknow, like I know, she's not
cheating Right.
But I think you're allowed tohave relationships of the other
gender.
But once you entertain that andonce someone's like to me, like
, like, if you were like to me,like, oh, like you look

(01:30:47):
beautiful today, oh, thank you.
You know you look good.
You know I would say that tolike my guy friends, like you
look good today, like wow, butif they're like I wish we were
together and I, rather, I wantto date you, like that's
cheating.
Like I believe, like if you'resuper strict with your partner,

(01:31:09):
they're going to cheat on you.
We are individual, we're humans.
Like you could have thosecircle of relationships, but
there's different types ofrelationships that platonically,
you know, like I don't believein overpowering, being super
strict with my partner because Iwouldn't want that to me.
Like I want to be able to havelike my guy friends and hang out

(01:31:31):
with them.
But I know when a guy hasdifferent like he's not really a
friend like he wants to hook upwith me.
I'm not hanging out with guysthat want to hook up.
Yeah.
So if I had a partner right andI know I could read a guy like
a book when I know that's hisintention, so I'm loyal, scorpio

(01:31:53):
.

Speaker 4 (01:31:53):
Awesome, awesome thank you guys, you were great
fantastic thanks for having us.

Speaker 3 (01:31:59):
We will see you guys soon, hopefully in uh watch the
show maybe I will.

Speaker 4 (01:32:03):
I will watch the show and then, and then we'll do a
sequel once you guys are back intown, so then I could talk more
and ask questions about all thedrama.
You well, I mean you weren'tinvolved in any drama, it seems.

Speaker 1 (01:32:16):
I'm not problematic Is something wrong with that.

Speaker 4 (01:32:19):
Thanks for watching.
We'll see you later.

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