Dating Red Flags and Modern Romance Ft. Valerie - Ep.106

Special thanks to Valerie for being a part of this episode of Unattainable Podcast Show 

Valerie joins us to discuss her journey from dating fuckboys to finding gentlemen, and how she navigates the complexities of modern relationships. We explore what it means to be intentional with partners and what we're really looking for in romantic connections.

• The shift from "fuckboy nation" to seeking gentleman who demonstrate romance and intentionality
• How gender roles create confusion in modern dating – the "boss bitch" vs feminine woman dynamic
• Why simply showing up isn't enough – the real conversation about what each person brings to a relationship
• Valerie's shocking toxic relationship story involving cheating, gaslighting, and an explosive ending with police
• The trap of sugar daddy relationships and why they often lead to dependency without long-term plans
• Our heated debate about manifestation – does writing down your dreams really help them come true?
• The uncomfortable truth about superficiality – how men and women approach attraction differently
• Why being intentional matters more than ever in today's dating landscape

Follow Valerie on Instagram at @valerie_taiye for more content.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Woo, I opened the phone.
All the bitches from all overthe world were like on that
phone and I lost my shit.
I was like you always accuse meof cheating, but you're the one
that's fucking cheating.
I lost my shit.
I think people always expect meto be like a typical LA girl
and I'm like I hate those, likeI just I don't like superficial

(00:21):
stuff, I don't like big shit,you know.

Speaker 3 (00:23):
Do you believe in manifestation?

Speaker 1 (00:24):
Oh, yeah, I think guys are very superficial.

Speaker 3 (00:27):
Guys are superficial when it comes to looks and girls
are superficial when it comesto personality.
Do you find yourself datingmore fuckboys or nice guys?

Speaker 1 (00:33):
You know what?
In my earlier 20s I wasdefinitely fuckboy nation.
Now I'm like dating gentlemen.
If you want to be at home, likeI'm from Nigeria, we're very
traditional.
I will cook and clean to thenine.

Speaker 3 (00:46):
I mean, I can't tell you how many times a girl has
said like where I literally askthis question hey, what do you
bring to the table?
They will literally say mypresents.

Speaker 1 (00:53):
Oh my God, when I was 24, I dated a 19-year-old.

Speaker 3 (01:01):
I don't know, I think that's cute, but like, are you
attracted to it or you know?

Speaker 1 (01:03):
yeah, I'm attracted.
Yeah, I can't do it.
I don't blame you, but I can'tdo it anymore.
I used.
I love white boys.
Oh my gosh we're the best yeah,you guys are the best I mean,
everyone is the best too, youknow.
Let me just say that everyoneis the best welcome to
unattainable glad to have youwith us.

Speaker 3 (01:22):
I'm your host, zach evans, and first of all, thank
you to all of our listeners.
We've been getting a ton ofgrowth and engagement over the
last few weeks and we've got tothank you guys out there for
that.
Today we've got a special gueston the show.
This is Valerie.
Valerie, why don't you go aheadand introduce yourself to the
audience, name what you do andyour zodiac sign?

Speaker 1 (01:38):
Hello, I'm Valerie.
I am a model and my zodiac signis an Aries.

Speaker 3 (01:43):
Aries, that is my rising.

Speaker 1 (01:45):
Really Okay.
I'm a Leo rising too, so yeah,it's very.

Speaker 3 (01:50):
You guys, you guys are very, very fun.

Speaker 1 (01:53):
We're very fun, we're very passionate.
I like to say the wordpassionate, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:58):
Yeah, I like to say the word toxic, but Okay, you
know a little bit, a little bit,you guys are bad for my mental
health.

Speaker 1 (02:04):
A little bit.
I mean, what's your sign?

Speaker 3 (02:06):
I'm the best one.

Speaker 1 (02:07):
What Is it Leo?

Speaker 3 (02:08):
Pisces.

Speaker 1 (02:08):
Oh my gosh, that is not the best sign.

Speaker 3 (02:10):
Why not?
We're proven by science we'resmart, funny, attractive.
Smart, good-looking, funny andattractive, yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:25):
Really fair.
Uh, actually, I actuallyidentify as an aries, oh really,
because, uh, pisces are suchcry babies.
Yeah, are you a cry baby?
No, no, no, no, no, fuck thatshit you're like to be fair.

Speaker 3 (02:32):
To be fair, I used to be very toxic back in my my
villain era okay, back like lastweek yeah a couple, a couple
months ago, uh, in my, in myfuck boy days, okay, but now
I've kind of matured out of that.
Wow, are we done?

Speaker 1 (02:43):
yeah, okay all right, but I was a professional fuck
boy days okay, but now I've kindof matured out of that wow, are
we done?

Speaker 3 (02:45):
yeah, okay, all right , but I was a professional fuck
boy back okay, not like theseamateur.

Speaker 1 (02:50):
What does that even mean?
Professional fuck.

Speaker 3 (02:52):
You were like the worst of the worst okay,
nowadays you see these fuck boysyeah that that take their
shirtless selfies at la fitness,yeah, and post them on hinge
yeah like be an adult fuck boy.
First of all, go to equinoxlike an adult and post your
shirtless selfies on raya.
I'm not on fucking hinge likean amateur fuck boy.
Oh my gosh, y'all be datingthese dudes with with a bed that

(03:12):
touches two walls okay, notanymore, not anymore.
We have bed frames like theyhave to have a bed frame and a
nightstand, otherwise get themto the curb.
What are you guys?

Speaker 1 (03:22):
doing with these losers?
Don't have bed frames, don'thave bed frames.

Speaker 3 (03:24):
I don't know why it's crazy.

Speaker 1 (03:25):
I don't get it.
Is that like a?

Speaker 3 (03:27):
thing or something, this new breed of dudes it's
built different the Gen Z dudes,yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:31):
It's a different category.
Who are you telling?
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (03:35):
That's why Do you find yourself dating more
fuckboys or In my earlier 20s Iwas definitely fuckboy nation
Now.

Speaker 1 (03:44):
I'm like dating gentlemen you know, yeah,
interesting, yeah, how do youclassify a gentleman I want to
say romance like romantic.
He opens car doors?
Sidewalk rule is very importantto me, like a lot of guys don't
know that you know yeah.
And no 50-50.

(04:04):
We don't believe in that.
Yeah yeah, I bring lip glossand hand sanitizer.
That's what I bring to date.
So the what in the handsanitizer lip gloss you know
yeah look good, be clean yeah,I'm like, there you go, baby,
but um, yeah, just romantic,like flowers.
You don't have to buy meflowers every day, but like once
in a while you know, but mostof these girls like you should

(04:26):
buy me flowers and you shouldtext me first and I'm like, oh
my gosh, like what is going onwith men now, you know, I don't
get it the problem is okay.

Speaker 3 (04:35):
So the new, the new culture yeah it's teaching
people the opposite it's sayingokay, women, you need to be boss
, ass bitch.
Make your own money strong,independent yeah, and I'm like
cool, if you want to be thatgirl, okay, that's fine.
But if you want to be I'm aboss bitch, I run shit, yeah,
then split the bill, yeah.
Or you can say I want to be afeminine woman yeah, cool but

(04:56):
then the guy has to step up andget a masculine role, yeah but
like both sides want both, likethe guys want to be, like they
watch three andrew tate videos.
Yeah, they're like I am thealpha I'm I'm not gonna lie.

Speaker 1 (05:07):
Andrew tate has some points I like a lot you know,
yeah, I like a lot.
He's very like.
A lot of people think he's likenot for women, but he kind of
is, he's kind of like amasculine role, you know like a
masculine figure, and I thinkthat's what, like I, I don't
agree with everything, but Iagree with some of it you know,
but no, definitely I'm like the,I'm very feminine, I'm like you

(05:30):
, I want to, you know, wear adress and heels and look cute
and like you know.
But I'm not that type of personwe're like oh, feminism is this
and that.
Like you know, I'm all forwomen, but there also comes a
line when we're like what isgoing on with society, you know?

Speaker 3 (05:45):
and I think this is why there's a huge divide and
it's crazy to me well, there's acouple problems like one is so
what happens to guys a lot, yeahis they don't fill the
masculine role.
They're not planning dates,they're not paying for dinner,
they're not getting a good joband like getting their business
right and everything right.
So then what happens is there'slike a void here and then a

(06:08):
girl will take that role becausenobody else is taking it.
So she starts planning shit.
Maybe they're going 50, 50,whatever.
And then the guy feelsemasculated.
He doesn't even reallyunderstand why.
He just feels like disrespected.
But I'm like okay, but thereason you're disrespected is
because you're not filling thatrole, yeah, so it's kind of your
fault too, yeah.
But then on the flip sidethere's a lot of girls who are

(06:29):
like just like, bring, not.
They're just like, I want tohave this attitude, oh yeah and
everything.
And I'm like okay, yeah, butyou also want the guy to bring
all the money and you don't wantto cook or clean, either you
don't do anything.

Speaker 1 (06:40):
I don't believe in that because I'm like if you
want to be at home, like I'mfrom nigeria, we're very
traditional I will cook andclean to the nine, you know like
when you come home, there'slike dinner on the table but
like most of these girls, theydon't want to cook, they want
meat, they want to be at homeand they want money.
So it's like very confusing.
I'm like you gotta choose oneyou know, like with the point, I

(07:03):
mean, how do I say it?
But the point in nigeria we'revery, you know, like the man
goes to work.
You know we raise the children,we cook, we clean, like we're
bringing something to therelationship and the marriage,
and a lot of girls like when I'mtalking to them, they don't
know how to cook they don'tclean and I'm like like what are
you gonna bring to your man?

(07:23):
you know, like your man's gonnacome home and you guys are gonna
eat, take out like he might aswell just be by himself, you
know?
You know what I mean.
So it's just like I get, I getthat.
I think we as individuals needto like sit down and figure out
what are we, what are, what dowe want in relationships, what
do we want in marriage and whatare we gonna bring you know, to

(07:44):
that marriage, into thatrelationship?
You know, that's what I think.
I'm glad you you brought thatup, because a lot of women
they're very lazy nowadays andit's crazy me, you know I mean,
I can't tell you how many timesa girl has said like where I
literally asked this question.

Speaker 3 (07:58):
Okay, what do you bring to the table?
They literally say my presenceoh my god and like.
So you show up, you literallyshow up what.
What does your presence curecancer?
Like, what does your presencedo exactly?

Speaker 1 (08:09):
I mean, are they like positive, are they, you know?

Speaker 3 (08:13):
some of them, yes okay, and that's the thing like
here's the thing like Ipersonally don't even care that
much if, like my girl, cooks forme yeah I'm fine, we go get
food.
We go hop in the bmw, go tocatch whatever let's go.
You know what I mean.
Like he's soily, I'm fine, wego get food.
We go hop in the bmw, go tocatch whatever, let's go.
You know what I mean.
Like he's soily I'm fine, I'mfine doing that.
I'm fine, okay, let's uber eatsome food yeah, like I feel like
my bar is pretty low in thestandpoint of just like be

(08:36):
humble.
Just like be humble and like,just like sweet and caring and
like those kind of things okaybut it's.
It's difficult to find girls inali that are like that.

Speaker 1 (08:44):
But do you do like 50 , 50 or?

Speaker 3 (08:45):
what?
No, no, no.

Speaker 1 (08:46):
Okay, good, high five .

Speaker 3 (08:48):
I was raised by a old school, very old school.

Speaker 1 (08:51):
Can we?
Can we give him a round ofapplause?
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (08:54):
I got accused one time of being a sugar daddy.

Speaker 1 (08:57):
Oh, I'm from Wisconsin, right?

Speaker 3 (09:01):
Okay, sugar daddies don't exist the guys are too
broke, the girls are too ugly.
This isn't going to work, youknow what I mean.
So I moved to LA and it's verylike normalized here.
It's a very people talk abouttheir sugar daddies very openly
a lot of times.
And so one of my friends shehas like 10 sugar daddies.
This guy pays her rent this guybuys her purses.
This guy is this guy, she's likeall the infinity stones of,

(09:22):
like the sugar daddies.
Okay, and so if I'm gonnatravel and I do like to travel,
yeah, if I'm dating somebody,I'm taking her with me yeah and
like I'm paying for the the trip.
Yeah, I'm not like, hey, youwant to go on a trip, sure, okay
, cool, here's a veteran requestlike 87 dollars.

Speaker 1 (09:40):
Oh my gosh, you know what I mean.
Like it just feels weird to me.
Yeah, and she goes zach, you'rea sugar daddy.

Speaker 3 (09:44):
And she said in front of all my gosh, you know what I
mean?
Like it just feels weird to me,yeah.
And she goes zach, you're asugar daddy.
And she said in front of all myfriends, you know, okay.
And I was like what do you mean?
And she goes zach, every guy'sa sugar daddy on some level.
Some guys they'll buy drinks andthat's it for girls some guys
dinner some guys trips, someguys purses, some guys like rent
and she's like every guy's asugar daddy.
It's just you're a high classor low class sugar daddy huh and

(10:08):
I was like I never thoughtabout it like that that kind of
makes sense a little bit no so Iagree with it to some extent
but, I also think it's moreabout intent okay so like if a
girl likes me already yeah we'realready dating yeah, and then I
take her on a trip yeah it'slike, okay, we're sharing
experience.
Yeah, if a girl has never met meor like doesn't like me, and

(10:31):
I'm like, oh, let me take you onthis trip.
Oh, please, like me.
Look, look, I can take you to.
Yeah, meekinose, come like.
Then you will like yeah, thenit feels like this is a
transaction relationship thatmakes sense, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (10:44):
That makes sense.
Yeah, huh, yeah.
I think it's about also beingum I wouldn't even say that's
classified as a sugar daddy,though I don't think that's the
right term.
I think a sugar daddy for me,someone that you would never,
ever sleep with, but you're, youknow, getting something out of

(11:06):
him of him.

Speaker 3 (11:07):
You know that's a sugar daddy for me, so that
you'd have like no feelings foryeah, otherwise yeah just like
some old 70 year old guy.

Speaker 1 (11:12):
It's like why the fuck would I like be in love
willingly with a 70 year old?

Speaker 3 (11:16):
you know maybe that's what.

Speaker 1 (11:17):
Maybe it's a great personality, oh sure yeah I've
met a lot of 70 year olds andI'm like what like?
Why would we like?
Why would we?
I don't know, I just don'tbelieve in like fucking anyone
for money like I've never donethat.
Like I'm not, I would rather gothrough the trenches and pay all
my shit than to ever.
You know, like bust it wideopen, I would say bust it wide

(11:39):
open for someone I don't want tofuck, you know, but that's just
me, that's just me, that's justme, and I don't hate on girls.

Speaker 3 (11:46):
Get that money you know, yeah, whatever.

Speaker 1 (11:48):
Have you ever been like tempted by that scene,
thinking, okay, man, this girlwould be so easy, I can make
whatever, thousand a month youknow what back, I think when I
was like 24 and I got um, gotthis guy, he was like I'll pay
you ten thousand dollars, likeevery time we have sex.
He had money and I thoughtabout it, but I never did it you

(12:08):
know like I could.
I couldn't bring myself to doit it's just not.
I've been tempted but never likeoh yeah, let me go do it.
You know, even though I waslike on some hard times or
whatever, you know yeah, well,the interesting thing.

Speaker 3 (12:21):
So when I worked in the modeling industry I would
see there's a lot of girls whodid the sugar daddy thing.
Oh, yeah, yeah, and I would seegirls you know age all the way
18, all the way to.
You know 30s, getting out ofthe industry, whatever.

Speaker 1 (12:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (12:33):
And the kind of thing .
The trap that a lot of girlswould fall into is when they're,
like you know, 18 through like24, 25.
They would do the sugar daddything, they.
you know 18 through like 24, 25,they would do the sugar daddy
thing, They'd be, making bankand they would be spending all
of it on purses and trips andeverything else cars, whatever.

(12:58):
And then the problem is onceyou hit, you know like 30, 31,
32, it's like all of a suddenyou're not getting those offers
anymore.
But you're so accustomed tothis lifestyle of luxury and
getting everything, yeah, andyou have no skills, no career
path, you don't have anything tofall back on, and now it's just
like your only choice is tomarry a rich guy yeah and then
like hopefully you find a richguy yeah, because otherwise,
like you're fucked, I know thatI know.

Speaker 1 (13:19):
But that's not kind of crazy because it's like some
women have a plan.
Some women are like, okay'mgoing to get this money from
this guy and save.
I've seen I have friends that dothat and they save money and
I've had friends that do thatand they're like, oh, you know,
we're about to be 30.
And they're like, still notsaving, no plan, no career, and

(13:40):
I'm like you're going to get oldand that's not not gonna always
work out for you, you know.
So I'm like you actually haveto have a plan when you're doing
whatever with these people, youknow.
But that's just, that's just meI mean that's the thing.

Speaker 3 (13:55):
Like some of these girls like I would tell them I'd
be like yo just take like 20 ofwhatever you're making yeah,
and just fucking put it yeah, inthe stock market yeah, get.
Get some real estate, get somecrypto if you have to, I don't
give a fuck.
Get something.

Speaker 1 (14:08):
Like do something.

Speaker 3 (14:08):
Yeah, do something, so like you could retire by 30.
You know what I mean Some ofthese girls, the amount of money
they're making.

Speaker 1 (14:14):
Yeah, I don't, I'd have had bank, you know like.
I would have ever.
I would have definitely savedmoney, um, but yeah, I think it
just depends on that person.

Speaker 3 (14:26):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, how old are you, you're, you're
very confusing.

Speaker 1 (14:32):
I mean I'm 21.
No, I'm sorry, I'm 29.
Yeah, my birthday, uh, mybirthday is next month.
I'm going to be 30.

Speaker 3 (14:39):
Happy birthday.

Speaker 1 (14:40):
Thank you, I'm like I'm not ready.

Speaker 3 (14:43):
We're getting there, you look very young.

Speaker 1 (14:45):
Okay, good, thank you Whoo.

Speaker 3 (14:46):
Black don't crack.

Speaker 1 (14:49):
And especially nine john, I just doesn't crack.

Speaker 3 (14:51):
Yeah, but I crack very, very easily.
You look good, thank you.
Yeah, you look good, you know.
You know how long.

Speaker 1 (14:57):
I want, I want to say 3732.

Speaker 3 (15:01):
Oh, oh, like You're, like you're looking good for 37.
The fuck.

Speaker 1 (15:08):
Thanks, wait, I'm really good at guessing ages.
I'm so sorry.

Speaker 3 (15:12):
Oh, it's fine.

Speaker 1 (15:12):
It's because you're so mature and so wise.

Speaker 3 (15:14):
See as a guy.
As long as you're rich andfunny, it doesn't matter.

Speaker 1 (15:17):
Yeah, it's just because you're mature and wise,
of course.

Speaker 3 (15:21):
What's the oldest and youngest you've dated?
Oh Well, what's the?

Speaker 1 (15:23):
what's the oldest and youngest you've dated?
Oh, the oldest, when I was 24,I dated a 19 year old.

Speaker 3 (15:30):
Yeah.
Younger yeah.

Speaker 1 (15:32):
But, to be honest, he didn't act like it.
It was very short and when I,the oldest I've ever dated was
65.

Speaker 3 (15:40):
65.
Yeah, interesting.

Speaker 1 (15:44):
Yeah, and how was that relationship?
Um, it was very weird.
We had our first date and hetold me he loved me, and then on
our second date he was tryingto buy a house and like have me
move in.
And I was like whoa you know.
But, um, that was very weirdfor me, so I had to cut that off
how did you meet him?
I met him.
I used to be a server, so I methim.
I might you know what?

(16:04):
How did I meet him?
I don't even I used to be aserver, so I met him at my.
Did I meet him at my job?
You know what?
How did I meet him?
I don't even remember.
I think I met him through mywork.
I think I served him and thenhe asked for my number.
I'm pretty sure that's whathappened.
yeah, it was so long ago, butI'm pretty sure I met him
through my job and what?

Speaker 3 (16:21):
what attracted you to him originally?

Speaker 1 (16:24):
um nothing but, um, I don't know, I just wanted to go
like on a couple dates and likesee what he was about.
I wasn't looking for anythingcrazy or anything um he was,
this guy.
Like I showed up on the firstday, he had flowers.
You know, I think that's likesuch a beautiful thing when guys
show up with flowers on thefirst day.

Speaker 3 (16:42):
I'm like I'm gonna push back what do?

Speaker 1 (16:45):
you mean, I like, I think it's hot so okay, I was.

Speaker 3 (16:51):
I grew up the nice guy.
Yeah, pushovers, right.
My parents are very religiousvery old school treat everybody
very politely, blah, blah, blah.
Yeah, and I would do that kindof shit and I would just get
friend zoned and friend zonefriend zone and friend zone and
then I was like fuck this.
And that's when I went throughmy fuck boy phase uh-huh and
then all of a sudden girlsstarted liking me when I wasn't

(17:11):
doing all this nice guy shit andI've kind of matured out of
that.
I'm kind of in the middle okay,but to me it's like it's much
easier to go from the fuck boyand then like, oh no, but deep
down inside of your heart yeahthen they're attracted to you
and then they start liking youbecause you actually have a good
heart yeah but if you start offas the nice guy and then go to

(17:34):
and then try to like transitionto the fuck boy.
That's like it's not reallyworking I don't know.

Speaker 1 (17:38):
I think that's very cute when guys bring flowers on
the first date.

Speaker 3 (17:41):
You think it's cute, but like are you attracted to it
?

Speaker 1 (17:44):
Yeah, I'm attracted.
I'm more attracted to likegentlemen, you know, like a lot
of dudes don't know how to getyou know pussy Now if I could
say the word but like I don'tknow.
I think there's a lot of girlsthat like toxic men.
But if you're mature and if youknow what you want in life, you
shouldn't be doing that youknow, but I've gone on dates and

(18:04):
I'm actually, you know, likereally it doesn't.
It didn't work out, but notbecause of various reasons but,
um, I think it's cute.
I really do.
I'm more of like a romanticjester and like someone showing
me that they care, you know,because I'm really big on
romance and a lot of dudes don'tknow how to do that, so yeah,
but I think especially oh mygosh, yeah.

(18:24):
So that's why I'm like, yeah,that's a another story for
another day, but there's a lotof people that are like faking
also.
They're like, oh, I'm this guy,I'm this guy.
And then they like, love, bombyou.

Speaker 3 (18:35):
And then they're like , turning to something else, and
you're like, whoa, what thefuck you know, so I think that's
been my experience a little bityeah, the love bombing thing
has always been confusing yeah,yeah because, like when I was
growing up, I would always feellike the guys who would get all
the girls yeah would do theopposite of love bombing, so
they're always like kind ofignoring the girl, taking a long

(18:57):
time to text back yeah kind oflike you don't know if he's into
you or not and the guys who arelove bombing would always be
the guys getting friend zonedand like really.
And nowadays I hear girls saythis.
They're like oh, this guy waslove bombing, I was so into it.

Speaker 1 (19:08):
I was like really I think god, I think girls like
that maybe I like the love bombbut, like if it's real, if it's
not fake, you know, but then younever know, um, because a lot
of people are not.
I don't know, I don't even know.
Like, like people, just weird,like you know, like what?
Like, what do you want, like,be intentional, but no one's

(19:29):
intentional.
They want to like I don't know.
It's so confusing to menowadays.
I'm like what do you want, youknow?
like as in, like they kind ofwant to fuck around yeah, I'm
like, okay, I, if you want tofuck around, don't fuck with me.
Like you know what I mean.
You could, there are so manylike bitches out there that you
go fuck around with, but I'mlike I don't fucking play, you
know.
I'm like, yeah, we couldwhatever, but I'm like, if you

(19:51):
want to go cheat, if you want togo have multiple women, go do
that, but don't come to me yeah,don't call me, so you're a
relationship girl I'm arelationship girl, um, for the
most, yeah, I'm like a lovergirl, you know.
But I'm like there's some thesedudes nowadays make you just
want to be like, oh I'm good,you know.
Like, let me let me be bymyself.
So I'm very intentional withthe people who I hang out with

(20:15):
and like who I let into my life.
So I would say I'm very arelationship type of girl you
know, I see, yeah, well, what'syour type?
let's do physical first and thenwe'll go into.
Okay, I don't wanna, I want tobe like very big about this.
So I like tall okay, tallerthan you oh yeah, I'm six one,
so even if they're like six two,six one, it's fine.

(20:35):
Um, I like the opposite racealso.

Speaker 3 (20:44):
Um.

Speaker 1 (20:44):
I love white boys.
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 3 (20:46):
We're the best.
Yeah, you guys are the best.

Speaker 1 (20:48):
I mean, everyone is the best too, you know let me
just say that everyone is thebest.
Um, I do love white guys, umtall, um tall white.
Yeah, I don't know.
I think I like guys, like whiteguys are like kind of into the
culture.
Does that make sense?

Speaker 3 (21:07):
no, what do you mean by that?

Speaker 1 (21:08):
like you listen to rap music, like if I say let's
listen to dom kennedy, you knowwho that is, you know what I
mean, but not like, oh, let's goto the country.
And like you know, ride horses?
Yeah, not like that you knowlike I like the culture so like
kind of like white boys withswag yeah, I call them wiggas,
like you know yeah exactly solike I love me some wiggas like

(21:30):
white boys with swag.
They're like a little not hood,but like a little a little bit
hood you know tattoosyou don't ever have to.
Yeah, I like the sleeve.
Oh god, the sleeve always getsme.
Whenever I see a guy I'm likeoh don't, I don't even look, but
you don't have to be touted.
But like, definitely have somelike hood and um, a little bit

(21:51):
that's a little bit.
Yeah, like a little swag.
Yeah, just a little bit eitherthat, and then I have another
type which is like those are myfavorite, and then I like like a
typical business owner, likewhite, you know color
entrepreneur yeah, kind of likethat, like you don't have to
have swag but you're abusinessman.
So I think I have those two,you know categories in which I

(22:12):
like, like, but definitely thefirst one is like my is, does
the first one tend to be more ofthe toxic type?
um.
You know what?
I think my most toxicrelationship was the the
businessman yeah, interestingyeah how did you guys meet?
I I mean on my work I servedhim.

Speaker 3 (22:29):
Yeah, where do you serve at?

Speaker 1 (22:30):
you seem like well I used to serve at this rest.
I'm not gonna name their names,but I got fired.
But so you can go kiss my ass.

Speaker 3 (22:36):
Why did you get fired ?

Speaker 1 (22:38):
it wasn't even my fault.
So I put gratuity on this partyand the guy was like I told him
to sign because it was alreadygratuity.
I said do no tip and give asignature.
And then he put he tipped me anextra $4.
And he went home he like wrotethis long ass Yelp review and
was like she was trying to stealmoney from me, like there was

(22:59):
already 20% and so, and was likeshe was trying to steal money
for me, like there was already20, and so they fired me over
that.

Speaker 3 (23:05):
Because you what you wrote in his tip for him.

Speaker 1 (23:06):
No, no, no, you just pointed to the tip when parties
of six or more we put gratuityso I put gratuity and then he
got mad because he did not seethe gratuity was on, he tipped
extra.

Speaker 3 (23:15):
Yeah, I see, but that's not your fault, thank you
, but I got.

Speaker 1 (23:18):
yeah, I worked there for six years and I got fired.

Speaker 3 (23:20):
So over that, Just to probably Yelp review.
They had to blame somebody,yeah.

Speaker 1 (23:25):
But like literally like seven paragraphs, and I
messaged him like thank you forgetting me fired.
He was like, oh, I can't affordto pay an extra $4.
It's like why the fuck are yougoing out to eat?

Speaker 3 (23:44):
You know, know, yeah, and like you, four dollars
seems.
Yeah, literally I was like Iwill fucking give you four, I'll
give you four hundred dollars,you know what I mean.
But like, yeah, that's why Igot fired.
Gotcha, gotcha, all right, soyou meet this guy, oh um what
then?

Speaker 1 (23:50):
what he takes on a date?
Oh my gosh.
Um, yeah.
So I met him.
I was talking my relationshipsand like how I believe in
loyalty and like love, and hewas like, yeah, I believe in
that too.
Very nerdy, wasn't my type, hewas bald and he wore fedora, um,
but I was just like, oh,whatever, he seems like a nice
guy.
So we go home, we're like voicenote, voice message or whatever
, voice noting like all night.

(24:11):
I'm like, okay, cool.
Then we ended up going on a dateand actually he was talking
shit about his ex-girlfriend,which that was a red flag.
We ended up going on a date andthen we were dating for a
little bit and then he went to,disappeared and then he went to
burning man and I was, and thenI came, he came back and he was
like, oh, I went to burning man.
I'm like you couldn't have toldme you went to burning man.

(24:32):
Long story short we're dating.
And then he was alwaysdisappearing, like oh, like
always disappearing, like Idon't and like I would always
call him.
I always do drive-bys because Iused to like my job.
It sounds so terrible, but myjob was literally like a minute
away from his house from hishome and I would always have
that like weird feeling.
You know, like I'm like there'ssomething not right about this

(24:54):
guy.
He was never home at like 4 amand I'm like where the fuck, if
you have a girlfriend, where areyou?
like you, looked for the car inhis driveway yeah, and because
his driveway was very open, hewas never home.
And then I told him I'm likethere's something wrong and he
was like oh, you're crazy, blah,blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
So we go to hawaii.

(25:14):
Um, he takes me to hawaii, sowe're in hawaii, and then I see
his ex-girlfriend on his phoneand it was like not even just
like one call, it's like callsand then I'm like that's your
ex-girlfriend, why is shecalling you?
he was like, oh, she works forme, for my company, and I was
like already worded out, so healready knew.
And then he like breaks up withme because he said I was too

(25:36):
like toxic or I didn't, I wascrazy.
And then he comes back threeweeks later like trying to work
things out.
So we work things out, stillthe same shit disappearing.
And then he disappeared on hisbirthday for 11 days, like they
didn't talk to me like, like,just ghosted ghosted.
He comes back.
I just up sexy.

(25:56):
I'm like you know what, I'mgonna break up with him.
So he came back very sick andI'm like.
He was like I don't want totalk about this right now, like
can we?
Can we talk about this later?
and then I'm like I'm done likeyou like it's not, there's no
point.
You know you don't respect me,whatever.
And then he was like he and Igo home and he calls me 15 times
like literally back to back toback to back the next day.

(26:19):
And then he was was like thisis how we're going to end, like
I can't believe you're doingthat.
Like blame it on me After hedisappeared for 11, literally.
And I'm like you know what I'mlike.
I'll talk to you next week, sowe make plans to see each other.
And then I'm like, okay, let me.
So I'm at his house.
I'm like, let me go use thebathroom.

(26:44):
His phone was unlocked in thatbathroom.
I have been trying to get intothat phone for like one year.
I opened the.
All the bitches from all overthe world were like on that
phone and I lost my shit.
I was like you always accuse meof cheating, but you're the one
that's fucking cheating I Ilost my shit like he.
yeah, he called the cops Like itwas a whole thing.

Speaker 3 (27:02):
Yeah, no, you like thrown shit at him or what.

Speaker 1 (27:04):
I threw shit, I threw everything.
Like I slapped him Like it's sobad, but like he, like I said,
I punched, I gave him a blackeye and whatever.
And then he was like you'regoing to get a felony, you dumb
bitch, like it was a whole thing, you know.
And then he hid my dog in hishouse.
I could not.
My other little pomeranian hidmy dog for like three hours.

(27:26):
I was literally crying.
I was like I don't give a fuckabout this relationship, I want
my fucking dog.
Long story short, is likecalling the cops, whatever.
So, like I keyed his car.
I mean, I keyed his car andthen I punched him in the eye
and then I his neighbor or hisroommates, whatever ended up
finding my dog.
And then I left and then helike chased me down Ventura

(27:47):
Boulevard and was like recordingme like a fucking idiot.
And then I get out the car inthe middle of the fucking street
.
I'm like fuck you.
I'm like get the fuck out ofhere.
And like start throwing shit.
And then.
And then he was like he textedme.
He's like I'm gonna sue you,bitch, you owe me 10k, blah,
blah, blah, blah.
And then, honestly, like it wasjust so bad, you know, like

(28:08):
though I wasn't worried aboutgoing to jail because I didn't
give a fuck, the cops didn'teven show up.
The cops showed up like threehours after I left.
You know, I think I was justlike worried, more like
concerned about my, my dog.
You know, that was like my babyand like the fact that he hit
him and like he wanted me tolike like see me cry the whole
three hours.
It was crazy, like it wasreally a crazy night.

(28:29):
Like I was like walking.
I saw tyrese gibson, like I'mlike I'm talking, you know
tyrese, right, yeah, I was likehello, have you seen my dog?
Though, my way, this is tyrese.
It was like like on the streethe was on the phone, I was like
I saw this black man.
I'm like, listen, sir, like Ireally need to find my dog.
And then I'm like, wait aminute, this is fucking tyree's
gibson.
But I'm like, whatever.
I'm like, don't worry aboutthat right now.

(28:50):
I'm like let me get the dog.
So we end up finding the dog.

Speaker 3 (28:53):
And then did he help you.

Speaker 1 (28:54):
Well, he got my he got my number and then he was
like I'll let you know if I seea pomeranian.
But I was just like I need mydog.
But his, his neighbor, likeknew, because when I texted him,
uh, like he helped me find mydog, I was.
I was just like I'm so sorry,like my, I just found out he was
cheating on me the whole year.
He knew like even when I waslike fucking cussing him out on

(29:16):
the street like he heardeverything, like you could like
tell everyone new.
And then, long story short, hisex-girlfriend and I are like
we're sister wives basically,you know, because we found out
that he was.
When I first met him he was ina relationship with her the
whole time.
He went to burning man with heruh yeah, he was fucking her the
whole time.

(29:37):
And then he came home to fuck meliterally the same night.
So I'm like it's kind of crazylike.
And then the christmas party hehad.
She went to go book the roomwith him and then I went to the
christmas party.
Like you see how crazy like hewas, just like I don't know, it
was just weird he would see meon the weekends.
He was there on the weekdays.
Like it was just crazy to me.
And yeah, that was actually theworst relationship I've ever.

(29:59):
I've ever been in.
And I told him I was like whenI see you on the street, like
it's always down it's always up,it's always down.
Wherever we could be at church,we could be at the white house
like your shit will get rockedlike so have you seen him since?
No, I haven't.
I'm ready, though I'm alwaysready.
I'm like whenever I see you,bitch.
No, I'm ready, don't fuckingplay with me yeah you know,

(30:20):
don't play with me yeah yeah, Iknow that sounds so terrible,
but I promise I'm really nice,like I'm not crazy, you know
yeah, only when people bring itout only when people bring it
out of me.
Like I'm not, you can't putsomeone's sexual health also
like you're fucking all theserandom girls, you know what I
mean.
And then you're accusing me offucking other people and it's

(30:41):
like you're obviously not usingcondoms or anything.
And then you want to come andfuck me.
That's where I was pissed Likeyou could go fuck the whole
nation.
Don't come and fuck me.
You know what I mean.
That's just how.
That's why I was pissed.

Speaker 3 (30:53):
Yeah, so you said it lasted like a year or something
like that.
How much of the relationship inthe back of your mind did you
kind of know, Like yeah, this istoxic.

Speaker 1 (31:06):
This guy's not the whole time.

Speaker 3 (31:08):
The whole time, yeah, so you knew the whole time, but
it was just what it wasexciting.
It was there was something thatkept you in it.

Speaker 1 (31:17):
What kept you in it?
I think for me, yeah, he didn'tlike my job.
He was like there's a lot ofdudes that flirt with you like
it's not a serious part, uh paththat I want for you.
So I thought, whenever I wouldquit that job, it would be
better, like.
I thought it was like my careerthat was affecting the

(31:37):
relationship.
So I think that's what I waswaiting for to fix.
And then it just wasn't.
It wasn't that it didn't matterif I was a lawyer, like he was
a total narcissist, you know.
So I think that's where that'swhy I stayed, not because I
didn't love him, you know, but Iwas just like, okay, well, if I
get this career, maybe he'llhe'll like me better, or like
he'll he'll take me seriously.

(31:57):
So I think it was just a lot ofthat.

Speaker 3 (31:59):
Yeah, makes sense, yeah makes sense.
Yeah, I always wondered, likewhen I was going through my fuck
boy phase yeah um, I wasn'talways a very honest fuck boy.
I would always tell girls Idon't want a relationship, I'm
not emotionally available,that's good, but they wouldn't
believe me really.
They would still like want tolike, they would like think they
could change me or I don't knowwhat it was like.
They would like still like, oh,like, really, yeah, yeah,

(32:22):
multiple times if you told methat I'll be like thank you so
much.

Speaker 1 (32:25):
Like we're not on the same page, you know I wouldn't
be like oh, let me change youand like, be the girl that you
need.
You know, like I don't know, butI think with him he was always
like I love you, and then hewould disappear and then I love
you again.
And then he's like it's yourjob, it's this.
And then I'm like, oh, maybeit's me.
And then I'm such a likeconfident person and I lost.
I like I lost myself that wholeyear, like I didn't even know

(32:47):
who I was the whole last year.
Like I just felt so, like andit's called narcissistic abuse
for a reason because you likelose identity of who you are.
And then, like I'm telling youafter that relationship and
talking to his ex-girlfriendwhich, uh, which is my friend,
my good friend now, like I'mlike, wow, like I, you're not,
you're not thinking clearly,you're like, you know, it's like

(33:09):
a cloudy fog, haze, whateveryou know.
So I think, um, that was myproblem last year.
I was just not mentally.
You know, yeah, mental, yeahwasn't like mentally present and
I wasn't mentally like, oh,like I knew wasn't going to work
out, but I thought it wasalways like on me to fix that
relationship.
That makes sense.

Speaker 3 (33:30):
Yeah, yeah, no, it does make sense.
Love can be blinding.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (33:33):
But I wasn't even in love.
That was the craziest part.

Speaker 3 (33:35):
Like I did not love this man and I'm like, but did
you think at some point you werein?

Speaker 1 (33:39):
love or no?
First um week maybe, but likeafter that I'm telling you like
that shit was just terrible, youknow, the whole time the
relationship was just so bad.
But I did not love that man.
I don't, I don't get it yeahyeah, even when I was like I'm
like such a dumb bitch, I waslike that was that shit, that
shit was terrible.
I was like I did not love thatman and like maybe, like our

(34:00):
sexual um chemistry was likegood at one point and then it it
declined.
It declined, you know, but itonly declined because if you
don't treat me well, like Idon't want to sleep with you,
like what's the point?
You know, like there's no, Idon't know, that's just me.
And then he was always like healways wanted to fuck, like he
always wanted to have, likeeverything was about, you know,

(34:21):
like sex, and it was like such aturnoff at one point, you know
it's like yeah, it's fun.
And then after a while you'relike wait, this guy's not
treating me the way I want to betreated, but he wants to fuck,
like no, you know so that Ithink that was just always the
problem too, and I told him andhe never met me like halfway or
anything.

Speaker 3 (34:38):
So interesting, yeah, interesting yeah yeah, I always
like it's because I have a lotof female friends yeah sometimes
they come to me with, like youknow, let me get some advice, or
what do you think about thisrelationship thing?
And like it.
I hear so many girls they'll bedating some guy who's like
obvious fuck boy to me on theoutside and it's like they.
It's like they can't see itwhen they're in it and then,

(34:58):
once they're out of it, thenthey're like oh yeah, you were
right.
The whole time, yeah, yeah oneof my friends consistently
always dates fuckboys and she'slike this new girl she's like oh
yeah, like this guy's likeflying me out to miami.
I'm like okay, first the factthat he's flying you out to
miami oh, yeah, already I'm likeprobably a fuckboy yeah then
she shows me his instagram.

(35:18):
I'm like he's like screams,fuckboy, really manbo.
It's like all this.
I'm like he's a fuck boy.
Why are you not seeing this?
Come on, oh my god.

Speaker 1 (35:27):
Well, maybe you can change him maybe I don't know.

Speaker 3 (35:30):
Here's the thing I never understood about the
changing him thing.
Have you heard of this thingcalled hello fresh?

Speaker 1 (35:37):
it's like yeah, yeah yeah, I used it once.

Speaker 3 (35:39):
Yeah, yeah, so like I like can't cook, yeah.
So like I'm like, okay, fuck it, I make money, I'm just gonna
get the meal deliveries rightyeah and I got the 20 pack
because it's like cheaper if youget the 20 pack okay and 20
pack just come in.
I opened the first one.
I'm fucking pissed because themeal's not even made for you.

Speaker 1 (35:56):
It's like it's just ingredients well, yeah, and you
have to cook it, yeah, but it'seasier because it's like like
lower, like less ingredients,and then you could just follow
the directions.

Speaker 3 (36:05):
Yeah, but I was like, okay, if I'm paying for meal
prep, I want them to prepare themeal Like I don't want to
fucking make the meal youcouldn't even.

Speaker 1 (36:12):
it takes like five, like 30 minutes maybe.

Speaker 3 (36:14):
Yeah, but my point is why would I buy the ingredients
when there's other mealdelivery services where I can
buy the meal already made?
And I see girls thinking, oh, Ican change this guy.
I'm like, there's guys who arealready done yeah, meaty mer
steak, mashed potatoes, they'realready done, you can see what
the you don't have to change him, you can see the final product

(36:36):
and he'll never.

Speaker 1 (36:36):
A man only is going to change when he wants to
change or if you find some, ifyou yeah.
Or if you find someone that hewants to change for, like
there's no, oh, if I do this,I'm gonna change for it.
Like I never believed in that,yeah yeah, if you're already on
some fuck shit.
You can, you can like I'm likenext person, like I don't have
time and a lot of people they'relike they want to just drain
your energy, like they alwayswant to like get something from

(37:00):
you.
You know what I mean, and I'mlike like go over there like I'm
not, I don't know.
I just don't believe in reallywasting my time with anyone
anymore.
You know, like I think, well, Ithink so, like I don't.
It's just such a waste.
Like some people are waste oftime and they want to waste your
time for a purpose, or even ifit's not purposely, but, um, I
don't know, I just don't, yeahwell, the the thing, too, you

(37:25):
have to realize is okay, ifyou're only going for dudes six,
two and above and they'reprobably have something else
going for them.

Speaker 3 (37:33):
Maybe they're rich, maybe they're good looking,
maybe they have a goodpersonality, right, all these
dudes have access to girlsbecause they're tall and good
looking, right, it's like youcould find a guy who wants to be
serious.
It's just like like go toChipotle, you know, whatever
dude's working behind thecounter, he'll probably be like
a great like boyfriend.

Speaker 1 (37:53):
I don't know about Chipotle, though.

Speaker 3 (37:55):
Chipotle has some.
Yeah, but like working on.

Speaker 1 (37:57):
No, I'm like I don't know, I think I think I I I gave
a lot of different individualslike chances when I was younger,
but now I'm like veryintentional, you know, I mean
there's, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (38:10):
No, I agree with you.
I think you should want the guywho has it all Like why like
settle for somebody Okay, maybehe's good looking, but like he
can't support himself, Like,okay, no, I want someone with
both you know.

Speaker 1 (38:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (38:21):
But I'm saying it's just harder to find because the
guys who have it all have themost options.

Speaker 1 (38:25):
I know that's one thing I learned and I'm like
damn like where can you findsomeone that's like having but
like loyal?
You know, or maybe it's just LA, I don't know.
I mean, there's girls that havethat, though, so I'm like yeah,

(38:46):
it's like rare.

Speaker 3 (38:46):
I mean it's the same thing for guys like yeah, you
know, guys are always saying,yeah, these la girls, all they
care about is clout and moneyand status and I'm like the
super hot ones yeah, for themost part.

Speaker 1 (38:53):
Yeah, care about that .

Speaker 3 (38:54):
Yeah, but there are very beautiful girls that just
like, yeah, I just want likesomeone who's like respectful
and kind and and maybe, maybethat you have clout and money,
but like I don't really careabout those values.
That's just like extra, youknow.
But it's hard to find thosegirls too.

Speaker 1 (39:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (39:08):
Because most girls who are that beautiful, though
they're going to Drake's partythis weekend, they're getting
flown out on a private jet thisweekend.
Tulum this weekend.
So, it's just like the worldthey live in.

Speaker 1 (39:17):
It's so funny because when people talk to me, they
think I I'm just like I'm ahomebody, I'm not over here
trying to do this and that I'mnot trying to be a celebrity.
I'm literally just in my ownlane, I'm in my own world doing
my own thing.
It's just funny when people arelike, oh, you're not from LA
and I'm not even from thiscountry, so it also helps with

(39:39):
that.
But I think people alwaysexpect me to be a typical LA
girl and I'm like like I hatethose, like I just I don't like
superficial stuff, I don't likebig shit, you know like I'm very
like, upfront, like if you, ifyou want to do, if you want to
do something, if you want to saysomething, like be upfront and
honest about it.

Speaker 3 (39:57):
Like I don't believe in playing games or or you know
like running around the truth,so yeah, yeah, not a hundred
percent, if I believe you onthat or not.
What do you mean?
Just because I don't look, Idon't know you that well, what
do you mean?
But there's a lot of girls whowill say I don't like when guys
play games and then I'll seeguys playing games and then

(40:18):
they'll like it.
I mean like not like it, likenot enjoy it, but it like the
curiosity and the mystery andthe I don't, I don't, you're not
like that.

Speaker 1 (40:28):
I don't think that's hot interesting yeah, I mean,
even when I was younger, Ididn't even know, I don't know,
I don't, I just don't believehim.
I think that turns me off, likereally turns me off.
Uh, when you play games, youknow yeah, like I, like you're
more mature you know, I am amature, I like a man that's like
intentional, like hey, like, ifwe're, if we have plans, we're
gonna meet With each other.
Oh well, something came up, somaybe I'll talk to you Next week

(40:50):
.
No, I don't like that.
Yeah, I like like.
Yeah, I'm just on, I'm an Aries.
We're very straightforward.

Speaker 3 (40:56):
Warrior class.

Speaker 1 (40:57):
With the, with the whip, we crack the whip.
Oh Jesus you know, like wecocked away, we're the best and
we're very brutal and honest,you know, and that it gets me in
trouble sometimes.

Speaker 3 (41:06):
People like it, people don't you know, no filter
, no filter yeah no, yeah, onanything all right, so so looks,
we got out of the way.
What's your type personalitywise?

Speaker 1 (41:17):
oh uh, funny, I like I would say funny, someone that
doesn't take themselvesseriously all the time.
I mean you can't be be jokingaround 24-7.
That shit's going to piss meoff.
But a happy medium.
Well, I said romantic.

(41:37):
Romantic is very big for me.
Straightforward and honest, Iwould say loyal all the basic
things that most humans lacknowadays.

Speaker 3 (41:51):
Yeah, I I've come to be a lot more picky on two
things.
Okay, um number oneintelligence yeah what I look
for in a girl, and notintelligence.
Like you, went to college andyou read a lot of books yeah,
but just kind of like socialintelligence, emotional
intelligence, uh, wanting tohave conversations about
psychology, society like stufflike that, um, and girls who

(42:13):
work out okay and before Ididn't care about that.
I was just like, okay, ifyou're hot, you're hot, I don't
work out, so no, really no.
Just what genetics, or yeah?

Speaker 1 (42:22):
I don't work out.
I'm telling you, I think Iworked out, I think last August,
maybe for like a week Not aweek, but like four days.
But it was nice, it was likefor like 30 minutes.

Speaker 3 (42:35):
You just don't eat.

Speaker 1 (42:36):
I mean, I do eat.
Just genetics, I'm just veryblessed by the Lord.
Knock on wood?

Speaker 3 (42:41):
Yeah, I don't know why, why more people like they
have this workout, planning,this diet, just have good
genetics.
Yeah, no, you're right.

Speaker 1 (42:48):
I mean I'm telling you, my, my aunt has like four
kids and she's literally like me, or maybe skinnier, maybe I
don't know, probably like me,yeah.
So I'm like, it's all about you.
I mean, I want to work out, youknow like, but I just don't
have time.
You know like, uh, I don't havetime interesting.
Yeah, it's very hard, like Idon't know how people do it,
like I just don't have time.

Speaker 3 (43:10):
It's hard what is um?
What are some of your, your,your goals coming up um, to get
another job?

Speaker 1 (43:20):
I would say probably to get another full-time job.
I don't like really love theone I'm working at right now,
but, um, I would say that's likemy number one right now yeah,
do you believe in manifestation?
Oh yeah, interesting yeah, I'vemanifested, I manifested
everything.
Well, yeah, for the most partlike what?

Speaker 3 (43:38):
what are some things you manifested?

Speaker 1 (43:39):
I told, myself at 16.
I'm like I'm gonna get a boobjob and I got that, and then I'm
gonna get a pomeranian and Igot that, and then I'm going to
get a Pomeranian and I got that.
And I'm like I'm going to getlike a new apartment and I got
that.
And I manifested my Benz Liketwo Benzes actually and I
manifested the G-Wagon and Iknow that's coming.
But I've manifested a lot ofthings Jobs and people things,

(44:07):
uh, jobs and people and yeah,interesting, yeah, so I don't
believe in manifestation.

Speaker 3 (44:10):
Well, I do believe in manifestation, but I think it
only works for hot girls andnobody else.

Speaker 1 (44:13):
No, it works for everybody you have you written
down, like you need to write itdown.
You need there's like a routineor technique like I have.

Speaker 3 (44:21):
You have to be like I , oh no I see, see, so I set
goals and then I take steps toaccomplish those goals, okay,
but the universe has nothing todo with it.
Really, like I'm like I don'tlike when people give the
universe credit for your ownshit.
Well, like I did this shit, notthe fucking universe.

Speaker 1 (44:36):
Like get it.
Fuck you universe.

Speaker 3 (44:47):
Wait, wait, wait.
Put you in those steps to getyou aligned to your goal.
No, no, no, no.
Yeah, okay, here's my proof.
Here's my proof.
So when I grew up, I was broke.
My dad was a gym teacher.
My mom was a stay-at-home mom.
We had no money.
I always got made fun of inschool for being poor.
I'd wear my cousin's hammy dons,right yeah and I was like you
know, I'm gonna be rich somedayand I'll, you know, manifest it.
And the universe, instead ofputting me in situations to
become rich, it would keepputting roadblocks in my path

(45:10):
and I was like, eventually, Iwas like fuck you universe.
And I started doing reversemanifestation okay I would
picture myself being broke therest of my life.
I would just imagine myself youknow pulling up to some chick's
house in a fucking hondacorolla and a beep beep like
come on, babe, we're going toapplebee's tonight.
I got the coupon book, oh, notthe coupon and I would just get

(45:32):
so like scared of what if I'mliving that?
Life someday.
Then I was like fuck youuniverse, I'm gonna do my own
thing I'm gonna make it withoutyou, okay, and then?
I just started working superfucking hard and waking up at 6
am and like like, like, notusing the universe doing the
opposite but are you sure theuniverse wasn't the one that,
like, helped you align to thosegoals?

Speaker 1 (45:52):
you know?
I don't think so, because I'mpretty mean to the universe
really oh, maybe the universeknows deep down you want to be
nice to it, but you're justscared, you know.
You know, I mean that's what.
I think the universe like hereally wants to be nice to me,
so I'm just going to like helphim achieve his goals.
Like, have you ever thoughtabout that?
Maybe.
Yeah, I think that's why.

Speaker 3 (46:10):
But so let me ask you this Okay, so you said, you
manifested, for example, yourdog, right?
Yes yeah, so how did you getyour dog?

Speaker 1 (46:19):
I mean I bought him Wait wait, wait, you didn't
manifest it.
You just went on the website,oh, here's a dog, because that,
okay, look, that dog was thelast dog in stock.
Well, I shouldn't say stock,but like you know what I mean,
like the last dog they had andit fit every perfect.
I was like I want a brownpomeranian with like a cute

(46:39):
button nose and like, and I wantto and I want a boy.
So as soon as I moved out I hitum her up on uh, facebook.
She was like we have one moreand it was the cutest dog I've
ever seen.
So I I feel like I believe thatthat was like the universe, you
know, because the rest of thedogs were not, you know, cute.
But like that dog was so cuteand it was like literally like a

(47:01):
button that was, and I'm likethat's my dog okay see, I
manifested that if I I didn'tpicture the type of dog I wanted
, I probably would have.
they probably would have takenhim, you know, and I said I'm
going to name him Louie, like Ialready gave him his name at 16.
And yeah, his name is Louie.

Speaker 3 (47:16):
Okay yeah, what about your apartment?

Speaker 1 (47:26):
How did you manifest that?
I used to like live in a houseand I hid it in, and so I would
always write it down.
I'm like I live in a brand newone bedroom, one uh, one
apartment with a washer anddryer.
That was, like, very importantto me like hardwood floors and I
would always like write down,write that down at the end of
the night I'm telling you.
I want to say like uh, twomonths later I was in my brand
new apartment like the firstperson.
It was like brand new too, likethere were like maybe like five

(47:48):
people living there too yeah atthat point, so, but I think
that worked.
If I didn't write it down Iwouldn't be.

Speaker 3 (47:53):
You know what I mean so how did you get it?
You went to the apartment.
Wait, you checked it out.
No, no, oh.
What's your bank statement?

Speaker 1 (48:00):
here's your bank statement, okay, no, you have it
.
Have it, but I wrote it down.

Speaker 3 (48:03):
If I didn't write it down, I don't think it would
have shown up to me.
What do you mean shown up?
I'm assuming you found itonline.

Speaker 1 (48:12):
I mean, I found it online by accident, I wasn't
even looking for it.
So I think that was like theuniverse, like hey, this is your
apartment.
And as soon as I walked in Iwas like, oh my gosh, like this
is my apartment.
And I'm telling you a monthbecause I kept getting notes

(48:32):
from the other homes that werenot fitting my description and
then when I got a yes from that,I was like see, thank you,
universe, so interesting.
Yeah, I'm like I, I believethat works.

Speaker 3 (48:36):
I see, yeah, I'm still waiting for the universe
to give me something.
Well, you gotta write it down.
I do, I write down my goals,but but then I just I always
have to do all the work, but no,the universe doesn't do shit
for me.

Speaker 1 (48:45):
Okay, the universe Brings you to that situation In
which you are able to do thework?
Okay.
It's not gonna be like you wanta Bentley here, you as a
Bentley.
Yeah, but it will give you anopportunity To make Bentley
money and then you go get theBentley.
I think that's how me.

Speaker 3 (49:01):
I see yeah I guess I see it more as, like you just do
all the things to make ithappen.
You know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (49:07):
Like yeah oh, I want to go to europe.

Speaker 3 (49:09):
Okay, so I manifest it and then I go to google
flights I take a trip to europe,and then I put in my credit
card and then I go to europe youknow, I just bought a trip to
europe I mean, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (49:20):
I think manifestation is mostly for, like a woman a
lot of women believe I know alot of guys that they don't give
a fuck, but like, I think it'smostly like a woman thing and a
mindset and I can tell you why.

Speaker 3 (49:30):
Why?

Speaker 1 (49:31):
because, like I said before, I do believe in
manifestation for hot girls, oh,not ugly people, but I here, no
one is ugly, by the way sure,sure, let's go with that one.

Speaker 3 (49:45):
I'm gonna get back to that later, but I've seen hot
girls manifest crazy shit.
Okay, private jet, private jetboom, dm private jet yeah, boom.
Now they're in tulum, like,like.
But if, if you're notattractive, they're not.

Speaker 1 (50:02):
I've met where's the ugly girls on a private jet
there's, I've lost seen somepeople that should not be on a
private jet, trust me.
So, yeah, there are some, umnone, but I don't think anyone's
ugly, but I'm just like, damn,you want a private jet, but I
just, I'm just gonna throw itout of the way, I've just never
seen it.

Speaker 3 (50:20):
I don't know.
I've heard legends, I've heardmyths.
It's kind of like bigfoot, youknow bigfoot yeah, s.
Yeah, sasquatch, it's like.
There's, like you know, blurrypictures.
Is that Bigfoot, is it not?
You know, sometimes you've seena private jet, like in the
background.

Speaker 1 (50:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (50:31):
Oh, is that an ugly girl?
Oh my gosh.
Blurry.
Maybe it's just a hot girl.

Speaker 1 (50:40):
People are ugly, though I think everyone's
beautiful in their own way.

Speaker 3 (50:44):
Come on.

Speaker 1 (50:44):
You can't believe it.
What do you mean?
There's no ugly people.
There's no ugly people for me.
There's people I would date,and then there's people I would
be friends with and there'speople that I wouldn't date, you
know.

Speaker 3 (50:57):
Like based on their appearance.

Speaker 1 (50:58):
No.

Speaker 3 (50:59):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (51:00):
I've met some really hot people and.
I'm like whoa at some reallyhot people and I'm like whoa,
but they were so terrible that Icouldn't even yeah, like.
Then it became not, they becamequote-unquote ugly to me, so I
think it's based.
I don't know.
I don't think there's any uglyperson in the world like I think
.
Everyone's beautiful and everyeverything's like flowers and
bunnies and rainbows so so.

Speaker 3 (51:20):
So if you started a modeling agency, just any girl
who walks through the door, sureyou're, you're signed, sure,
you're signed Sure you're signed.

Speaker 1 (51:27):
I mean yes.
Oh, dear Lord.
I mean definitely all the badbitches.
And then you know everyone else.
I would say you know, yeah, Imean not everyone's a bad bitch.
Let me say that, yeah,everyone's beautiful.

(51:48):
I'm still gonna maintain thatthat, um, yeah, not everyone's
beautiful, okay no one come forme.

Speaker 3 (51:54):
That's very nice.

Speaker 1 (51:55):
No one come for me, everyone's no, but I'm very, I'm
a very nice person and I Idon't like, I don't believe I've
dated some non-attractive dudesthat people are like, why are
you dating him?
But I, I'm like he's so nice.
But there's also a difference,I think, between.

Speaker 3 (52:08):
So what girls and guys are attracted to is
different.
Like I'm just going to behonest, none of my guy friends
would date Oprah.
She's maybe the most successfulwoman Really Witch.
All this stuff With all thatmoney.
They just wouldn.
All this stuff with all thatmoney.
They just want to date her.
But there's a lot of dudes thatare old and like not attractive

(52:29):
at all, yeah, but like oh, butthey're charismatic, they make
you laugh, they're rich, they'resuccessful, they have all these
other things and girls areattracted to that I don't think
it works the other way aroundlike guys there's a certain
level where like yeah, and bythe way, I don't, I don't right,
like I wish I was just onlyattracted to personality.

Speaker 1 (52:46):
Really.

Speaker 3 (52:47):
Yeah, but if, like, I see a girl who's like ugly and
she has an amazing personality,like I just can't get hard, like
what do you want me to do?

Speaker 1 (52:55):
You.
I can't help it.
It's biological.
You could get hard thinkingabout how awesome she is, you
know.

Speaker 3 (53:02):
That doesn't work Really.

Speaker 1 (53:03):
I'm just thinking about how awesome she is.
You know that doesn't workReally.
Why are guys oh my gosh Like I?

Speaker 3 (53:06):
can't just be like full mask, buddy Well?

Speaker 1 (53:08):
I feel like you can Like, just like I've gotten you
know, like wed from some peoplethat I would never like think I
would get wed.

Speaker 3 (53:15):
It just depends.
I'm telling you it's differentfor girls Really.
Yeah, it think guys are verysuperficial all right okay, yes,
when it comes to looks, yeah,okay, yeah, guys are superficial
when it comes to looks andgirls are superficial when it
comes to personality yeahbecause girls like.
For example, if you like a guybecause oh, he makes you laugh,

(53:35):
he's confident, he's um, um edgy, maybe things like this, these
are good trait like I understandwhy you like them.
But these are all superficialpersonality traits from the
standpoint of like.
Unless your reason for likingsomebody is like, oh, he is good
, like character, morals andvalues.
Yeah, which girls, let's behonest, don't really like.

(53:57):
Like that's maybe what you wantin relationship, but that's not
what you're attracted to yeah,you know what I mean, yeah and
so like, I think, justeverybody's superficial and we
should just like.
You know, it is what it is.

Speaker 1 (54:06):
I am not superficial, though like I would.
I don't know like I would allright you, you dating the guy
who's five six okay, well, no,okay, no, no, no, no, no, no,
because like I wouldn't I mean Iwouldn't personally date like
I've done my time, you know,like you, like I sacrifice, the
charity of the short guys.
I've done my time and I'msaying short kings, I love you,

(54:31):
but I can, like.
I'm, you know, being veryintentional and you know like I
want my kids to be tall.

Speaker 3 (54:37):
I mean, I don't.
By the way, I'm not saying thisat all like blaming you for
this.

Speaker 1 (54:41):
I agree with you.
I just think everybody'ssuperficial.
I mean, if I saw a really hotshort guy.

Speaker 3 (54:47):
I what about an ugly short guy?

Speaker 1 (54:50):
I thought everybody, I thought everybody's hot I mean
, everyone is hot, but um, if Isaw, yeah, I can't do it I don't
blame you but I can't do itanymore.

Speaker 3 (55:01):
I used to date the first fashion model I dated.

Speaker 1 (55:03):
She was 5'10".
Okay.

Speaker 3 (55:05):
And she told me Zach, you know, before I dated you I
dated all like basketballplayers, nba players, stuff like
that and she said she was likeI got fucked over so many times
by these guys.
The next guy I dated was thislike 5'8 guy.
Okay.

(55:25):
And she told me charismatic,attractive, had good money,
everything like that.
I was like what happened?
She's like, yeah, one time I'mat my house it's the third date.
She's like I had a coupleglasses of wine beforehand okay
and she's like, she's like zach.
He walks in and I picked him upoh and I spun him around and
watch his little legs go outlike this and she's like zach
really after that.

Speaker 1 (55:44):
Well, why would she do that anyway?

Speaker 3 (55:45):
because she had some wine.
She had some wine.
She just did it and she's likeI lost all like oh poor guy and
I was like that's your fault.

Speaker 1 (55:53):
But I also understand why you want to be attracted to
him, poor guy oh, let's.

Speaker 3 (55:59):
Oh well, wherever you are, your love, we'll start a
gofundme.
Yeah, wherever you are that'sactually very sad.

Speaker 1 (56:05):
Oh, is that his name?
I don't know.
Okay, I hate that name.
Why that's the the x the yeah,I see, I see, I see.
Fuck you up whenever I see you,bitch you heard it here first
whenever I see you, it's up,baby, it's always up.
What is that song?
That's yet me, me in the mallit's going down, it's always

(56:25):
going down oh, jesus oh, isn'talways forever.

Speaker 3 (56:28):
Get it.

Speaker 1 (56:28):
Get it on video, if that does ever happen I know, oh
my gosh, you'd be like, yeah,I'm, yeah, it's going down or
it's going up, whatever it isone of the two one of the two,
but I know it's good it's goingeither way.

Speaker 3 (56:42):
You know, I mean I've moved on yeah whenever,
whenever I see well, we areabout out of time.
I got a couple of rapid firequestions for you okay favorite
food um barbecue like barbecueribs.
Yeah, is there any good placesin la for that?
Or is that more I go to woodranch?

Speaker 1 (57:02):
I don't know it's in the valley, but it's really good
, interesting, yeah, wood ranchuh, next travel destination.

Speaker 3 (57:07):
You haven't been to that.
You want to go?

Speaker 1 (57:09):
to oh, I'm going to cabo for my birthday, so I would
say but I want to say like Iwant to go to italy, or greece,
or greece yeah, italy's superfun yeah, I want to go, and they
love black women, so that wouldbe really fun what, what would?

Speaker 2 (57:20):
uh, they love black women oh, like the guys like
yeah, I want to be like sodifferent I went to italian
party.

Speaker 1 (57:26):
Once I almost got married like 14 times it was
crazy.
I'm like whoa, I didn't go toitaly that's like white guys in
like asian countries.

Speaker 3 (57:32):
Yeah, yeah, actually I think they like black people
in asian countries too.
Oh, really, I think they thinkthey're like they're different.

Speaker 1 (57:39):
Yeah, but I don't, I don't know they maybe yeah but
like, yeah, I almost got married14 times.

Speaker 3 (57:43):
It was crazy, I'm like, and they're romantic there
in Italy too.
Oh my gosh, maybe you shouldmove to Italy, maybe I should.
That might be your nextmanifestation, maybe.

Speaker 1 (57:50):
I should right.
Oh my gosh.
Yeah, you're right, yeah.

Speaker 3 (57:54):
Favorite first date spot or activity?
Want to say bossa nova?
Oh, the brazilian.
Yeah, I love bossa nova, it'sreally good.
Yeah, they have the bread.
Yeah, I love you have to askfor it now.

Speaker 1 (58:09):
Yeah, I know they don't bring it.

Speaker 2 (58:09):
Well, okay, so the one on the other, sunset the new
one they don't bring it, yeah,but that's when I always go to,
okay the other ones, they do theother one, yeah yeah, yeah so
trying to save money.

Speaker 1 (58:20):
Yeah, I know, but bossa nova is my favorite
restaurant ever nice, yeah,awesome.

Speaker 3 (58:24):
Well, this has been fun.
We'll have to do round twosometime.
Yes, uh, where can people findyou any instagram shout outs you
want to give?

Speaker 1 (58:30):
um.
My instagram is valerieunderscore taie t-a-i-y-e
awesome.

Speaker 3 (58:36):
Yeah, thanks for listening.