Taking Blame for DUI crash, & Getting Cheated on, Nice Guys vs. Sugar Daddies ft. Daniella - Ep.090

Special thanks to Daniella for being a part of this episode of Unattainable Podcast Show 

Daniella, a Spanish transplant living in LA, candidly shares her journey through toxic relationships, cultural adjustments, and surprising life choices that led her from Spain to Alabama and finally to Los Angeles.

• Describing herself as a "toxic Gemini" who becomes controlling when truly in love
• Preference for dating sweet, romantic men despite sometimes finding them boring
• Experience dating across cultural backgrounds and age gaps
• Insights into LA's "sugar daddy culture" versus genuine relationships
• Taking the blame for a boyfriend's DUI crash, only to later discover his infidelityx
• Growing up without a father and with limited family support
• Bold decision to move to LA with no connections, job, or housing
• Observations about the superficial nature of LA social life versus authentic relationships
• The contrast between European and American living, from tiny washing machines to massive mansions
• Having visited 46 out of 50 US states through an adventurous spirit

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
I love romantic, nice , sweet boys.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
I grew up very polite , be the nice guy, be the
sweetheart, and I just gotfriend-zoned and cheated on.
Latino girls I've dated arevery much, very jealous and very
sweet girls, but also have thisjealousy-controlling streak to
them.

Speaker 1 (00:18):
When you date somebody that is way older than
you, they are morework-orientated.
That's what a woman eventuallywants.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
You need somebody who wants you to live the same
lifestyle.

Speaker 1 (00:29):
Yeah, you do things, that you're going to spend time
with her, and it's different,it's not that transactional.
Instead, when you have a sugardaddy, it's like we're going to
see each other.
But I'm paying but money helps,of course Looks okay, I guess
growing up like Barbie and Kenand all of these, I would say,
blonde, blue eyes yes, that'sthe always thing that make me

(00:49):
crazy.
But I barely have been withthat type of guy.
Most nice guys, I mean, you canfind job anywhere and being a
woman in LA, I feel it's really,really easy.
So I think that's where my waywent a little bad, because it's
just so easy that you stopworking for what you're doing.
They try to pull up some likebullshit to try to make me say I

(01:12):
was in line and they try toscare me like hey, you are
making a felony, if you do thatyou can go to prison.
So you know, I was nervous atthat time.
I knew English, but not toomuch, and I took the blame
anyway.
I was like if I have to go toprison, I go for it.
When I go out with a guy andright away like treats me bad, I
was like trying to fuck with methe first time.

Speaker 2 (01:36):
Welcome to Unattainable glad to have you
with us.
I'm your host, zach Evans, andfirst of all, thank you to all
of our listeners.
We have been getting someexplosive growth over the last
couple weeks, so we have tothank all of you guys for that.
Today, we got a special gueston the show.
This is daniella hi, daniella,why?
Don't you go first head, movethe mic a little bit closer.
Okay, there you go.
And uh, why don't you go ahead?

(01:57):
Introduce yourself to theaudience name, where you're from
and your star sign?

Speaker 1 (02:02):
so I'm from spain.
Uh, I moved to la like twoyears ago.
What else was?

Speaker 2 (02:09):
uh star sign star sign.

Speaker 1 (02:12):
Uh, gemini, no, why I ?

Speaker 2 (02:16):
know all about you guys really I have a lot, uh, a
couple, very close relationshipswith gemini's and they and they
never end up.
Well, you guys are bad for mymental health.
Let's just say that.

Speaker 1 (02:29):
That's funny, I think , like our horoscope, like it's,
I don't know, we haveeverything.

Speaker 2 (02:37):
Gemini.

Speaker 1 (02:37):
Yeah, everybody say we are two phases, yeah yeah,
you guys are the toxic signLiterally.
I mean, I don't know abouttoxic, but yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (02:47):
Do you find yourself in toxic relationships?

Speaker 1 (02:50):
No, because of.
I mean I'm toxic.
I have to say that I am.

Speaker 2 (02:53):
I recognize it, you admit it.

Speaker 1 (02:54):
Yeah, I'm working on it.
I'm being better every time ina new relationship, but I don't
think all Geminis are the same.

Speaker 2 (03:03):
No, they are.
Yeah, I already checked they'reall the same.
I've only had a drink thrown atme twice in my life.
Both of them were from yourpeople the Geminis Really?
One of them was my fault.
I'll admit that.
The other one was completelyher fault?

Speaker 1 (03:20):
Well, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (03:22):
What are your toxic traits in relationships?

Speaker 1 (03:25):
I feel like if I feel in love with that person, I
feel I'm really in love withthat person.
I just don't let him dowhatever he wants.
I became too like I don't knowhow to explain that like on top
of him, like don't do this,don't do that.

Speaker 2 (03:39):
Controlling.

Speaker 1 (03:40):
Really controlling.
Yeah, if I don't really likethe person, person, no, I'm
really cool and I call dowhatever you want, give me my
space.
Used to have my space and dowhatever I want, but no, when
I'm really in love, yeah, that'snot too good, but I'm way
better now than before.
But yeah, before was like no,no girlfriends, like nothing
like that.

(04:00):
I want to know where are youall the time?

Speaker 2 (04:03):
location on your phone by the way, I don't judge.
I used to be a very toxicindividual back in my villain
era.
Yeah, I'm a recovering fuck boynow I'm very shine romantic but
, but back in the day Idefinitely had my my uh and the
thing is I was like aprofessional, not like these

(04:24):
amateur Gen Z fuckboys nowadayswith the fucking bird scooters
and.
TikTok hair.
You know I was.
You guys fall for guys thathave a bed that touches two
walls, like do you not know whata nightstand is Like?
Stop dating these losers.

Speaker 1 (04:39):
Not really.
Not really, because in my caseI love romantic, nice, romantic,
nice sweet boys.
I don't think I never reallydate like uh daniella I'm a
badass, I'm a, you know, don'tlie to me.

Speaker 2 (04:53):
No, for real to me listen.

Speaker 1 (04:55):
My first two relationships like the first one
was four years and the secondone three years, so there are
kind of like long-termrelationships very, very much so
.
Both of them I was the firstgirl, they were virgin both of
them, and no like to drink, nolike to party, nothing like that
, like home, like wanted tomarry and settle, and so no, I

(05:16):
never really, I think, fall forthe bad guy.
I like the good ones.

Speaker 2 (05:20):
That's interesting, so you caught them before they
got yeah because I've seen bothsides.
I started off um.
I grew up in a very religioushousehold, so I grew up very
polite, be the nice guy, be thesweetheart, and I just got
friend zoned and cheated on andoh, I don't like you, I like
your friend.
And so I became so pissed offthat I became the giant fuck boy

(05:44):
, sociopath, narcissist for likeeight years, so that's why you
went the opposite way.

Speaker 1 (05:48):
Yeah, and now I'm matured.

Speaker 2 (05:50):
I'm like the gentleman I can see both sides
okay, yeah, I mean you're nottoo bad then yeah, no, I'm good
now, but in my day there wasdefinitely some stories.
But okay, so so four-yearrelationship, three-year
relationship I mean, I have aintuition that you broke their
heart no, the first one.

Speaker 1 (06:11):
We actually still friends and last time I went to
spain I saw him.
Nothing happened, because onceyou break up with somebody, it's
like done, but we are friends.
We didn't work out because wejust wanted really different
things, so we did like uh, he'sreally like I love spain, I want
to be there.
Those people that really lovetheir country, they never want

(06:31):
to leave their comfortable zone.
So their parents had a littlemoney, like he.
He was good, subtle, so hedidn't feel he needed to go
anywhere else to be better.
He was happy where he was, andI was the opposite.
I wanted to travel, I wanted togo everywhere.
So I kind of started traveling.
I got opportunity in Ireland,in Dublin, so I went there for
like three months and from thereI went to Portugal and later I

(06:55):
came to the US and now I'm here.
So he didn't have that desireto travel and do something else,
he just wanted to be there.
So we just broke up becausethings wasn't going anywhere.

Speaker 2 (07:07):
But did you break up with him?

Speaker 1 (07:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (07:09):
Yeah, what about the second guy?

Speaker 1 (07:12):
That was more complicated.
That's a long thing that Idon't even know how to tell you
who break.
I did break up, but I think hewanted it.

Speaker 2 (07:24):
He was waiting for it yeah, I think so interesting
yeah, do you feel like there wasa level of excitement that was
missing from those relationshipsbecause you were the more
adventurous one and they weremore of the nice guy, stay in
spain, homebody type of peoplelike getting bored.

Speaker 1 (07:47):
Do you mean yes for my part of their part, from your
part, maybe the one?
The first relationship, yeah,but I was too young.
I just finished like collegeand and university, so I don't
think I knew what I wantedeither.
So no, I never see it that way.

Speaker 2 (08:08):
I see how old are you .
You're very confusing 26 reallyyeah, I was gonna say you seem
like you're in your 30s, but youlook like you're like 19, with
a fake id thank you, I'm like Idon't know whether to talk to
you about investing or likedoing molly at disneyland oh, no
, no, no, no, nothing aboutinvesting well, what's the

(08:29):
oldest and the youngest you'vedated, comparative to your age
at the time?

Speaker 1 (08:33):
oh, dated so probably when I was young I was like 14
or 15 it wasn't dating.
You know, when you met somebodyyou kiss like little things.
But, you don't call that dating, dating.
If you say dating, no, Likeactually relationships really
close to my age, every timeAlways like younger.

Speaker 2 (08:54):
See that surprises me Because, despite all of your
obvious glaring red flags, youcome off as a very intelligent
person.

Speaker 1 (09:06):
I don't know if people have told you that yeah,
they tell me that when they metme at first later changes, they
change their mind no, I don'tknow.
Is that I feel like that's whatI tell all my guy friends like
when they met me, like if I goparty with them or I don't know,
we do like traveling oranything cool they told me, oh

(09:27):
my god, you will be like theperfect girlfriend, you are so
cool, you are so amazing and I'mlike, yes, as a friend.
But when I come into arelationship I don't feel that
way.
So I think that's where myproblems goes into relationships
, that I'm really cool, I'm likegreat personality, like
partying, as a friend.
Everybody, every man tells meyou are amazing, but if you talk

(09:48):
about relationship, I'm toolike controlling, obsessive and
it goes bad Is the becauseyou're from Spain.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (09:57):
I've dated quite a few Latina girls in my past.
Is the culture very similar?

Speaker 1 (10:02):
Because that's like I know Latina girls I've dated
very much, very jealous, very umand very sweet girls, but also
have this jealousy controllingstreak to them I cannot talk for
everybody I think it could be athing, but I, one of my best
friends she's the opposite to meand she's from spain, like,

(10:22):
raised her culture and she's themost open-minded, like girl I
ever met, and I'm not like thatand we are.
We were raised the same way, soI see, so I don't think so
interesting, interesting.

Speaker 2 (10:36):
Yeah, the reason I said I'm surprised you have
never dated like older no it'sbecause so I owned a business in
the modeling industry for 10years and whenever new models
would come in you know, 18, 19,20 we'd always call it hot guy
phase because they would alwaysbe dating some hot young guy and

(10:58):
these guys were like clones ofeach other, like they all look
the same, they have the tiktokhair and the dangly earring and
they're all of the clones Right,but the most beautiful girls in
the agency when they were 21,22, 23.
They would always be dating adude who's just like a normal

(11:20):
looking guy, maybe a dad bod, alittle bit Like it looks like.
If you put on a brown shirt andlike dropped off your UPS
package, you wouldn't besurprised.
Brown shirt and like droppedoff your UPS package, you
wouldn't be surprised.
You'd be like okay, makes sense.
But they would always beextremely successful,
charismatic, ambitious, usuallya little bit older and kind of
more mature.

Speaker 1 (11:37):
Yeah, I guess I never like met anybody in that like
part that I would like to date.
Don't know that.
I guess that just neverhappened.
I mean, I met a lot of guysthat are successful and they
have business and all thingslike that, but I guess I wasn't
interested so it just neverhappened.
I mean, I get a guy that was 10years older than me I think

(12:00):
that's actually dating theoldest one.

Speaker 2 (12:02):
Okay, that's pretty.
Yeah, that's like pretty normal.

Speaker 1 (12:05):
But I mean he wasn't actually into like business,
like he was a normal dude, likenothing like too far from there,
and it was really like nicehanging out with him at first
and everything.
But I guess the age gap for meI don't know, it's like I think
our interests are reallydifferent from each other.
I don't know, it's like I thinkour interests are really

(12:25):
different from each other, Idon't know.
And when you are in that age, Imean of course I would love to
settle to have kids, to havelike a normal life, more like
like a real life.
But I feel I'm still reallyyoung and when you date somebody
like that is way older than you, they are more like work
orientated.
That's what a woman eventuallywants, you know, and a house and

(12:47):
a job.
But that becomes.
That comes withresponsibilities too, and what I
want when girls are younger, atleast me, is like you want to
experience more, you want totravel more, like today I'm here
, tomorrow I don't know if I'mgonna go to Switzerland and live
there.
So it's hard to get withsomebody that I don't know how
to explain.

Speaker 2 (13:08):
I don't understand what you're saying.
You need somebody who's wantingto live the same lifestyle yeah
, I guess for now.

Speaker 1 (13:15):
Of course, at some moment I want to settle, but if
you go for somebody older thanyou that he already has
everything figured it out, he'sgonna want you to settle with
him yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (13:24):
Yeah.
You know it is tough to findsomeone who is willing to do
both yeah, and wants to travel,do adventurous things.
Wants to, but also has a shittogether you know what I?
Mean, like most people that arethe travelers.
It's like, yeah, bro likeyou're not really doing much
with your life.

Speaker 1 (13:43):
Yeah, but you're fun.

Speaker 2 (13:44):
You're really fun.

Speaker 1 (13:45):
Yeah, but later.
Yeah, that's what I think nowis like.
Oh my God, what?
Where are you going to be in afew years?
You know?
If I don't get everythingstraight.

Speaker 2 (13:54):
Well, so have you ever um?
I'm curious, being in LA wherethe sugar daddy culture is like
very rampant and you love totravel.
Have you ever gone the sugardaddy road?
Have you ever been tempted byit?

Speaker 1 (14:07):
I have been tempted because when you move to LA
that's everywhere, that's around, like it's what everybody talks
about it and the funny thing islike when I came from Spain
that's not a thing there.

Speaker 2 (14:18):
Yeah, same with my place, my hometown.

Speaker 1 (14:20):
Yeah, I feel that's not a thing.
So actually, when I just cameto the states, my first place
was alabama.

Speaker 2 (14:26):
I lived two years in alabama why the fuck did you
move to alabama?
Because I was.
You could live anywhere, I know, but I didn't know.

Speaker 1 (14:33):
So maybe I'm an idiot or I'm not, like I don't know a
lot, but I'm talking aboutmyself.
When I was in spain.
And they talk about america, wethink america is a one.
It's just one thing, we don'tthink like there are so many
different states and each stateis like a different totally
country, like political, likedating, life, like everything.

(14:53):
So I thought, oh, alabama islike the states, whatever, I
didn't know like how differentlike cultural was.
So I lived there.
I lived for two years but Ilove it honestly, because it was
just so different and I thinkif I will never go to get be
there in that place, I willnever see like something

(15:14):
different.
Because now I'm in LA.
Yes, it's amazing, it's fun,you have a lot of opportunities.
But I think if I go back toEurope, this, this is what I
would think America is, la, andI feel like LA is a bubble, it's
not a reality.

Speaker 2 (15:28):
It is a bubble.

Speaker 1 (15:29):
I don't feel it's the reality of life, and at least I
don't go back to Europethinking, oh my God, america is
just this bubble and actuallyit's more.
It depends where you are andwhere you live.
But yeah, so, being there,nobody talks about sugar daddies
and once you come here you seethat's all around.

Speaker 2 (15:48):
It was a culture shock for me.

Speaker 1 (15:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (15:51):
I'm the same way in Wisconsin, where I grew up.
It's like the guys are toobroke and the girls are too ugly
, like there's no room for sugardaddies.
It doesn't make sense.
And then I move here and one ofmy best friends is like the
most powerful sugar baby.
She has like 10 sugar daddiesshe has.
Like this guy pays her rent,this guy buys her purses, like

(16:13):
like have you seen the avengers?
yeah she has like all theinfinity stones of like the
sugar daddies and and we'retalking one time and and the
thing is, uh, my dad raised mevery like chivalrous, right.
Like if I take a girl on a date, I'm paying.
I'm not doing splitsies, likewhat the fuck?
Like I'm a man, you know.

(16:34):
Like we walk on the sidewalk,I'll walk on the car side so if
the car comes, I can stop thecar with one hand, protect my
girl with the other hand.
You know, that's how I wasbrought up so when I travel, if
I take a girl to Europe or Asiaor Australia, it's like I'm
gonna pay for it.
I'm not sitting here like, hey,babe, did you get the Venmo

(16:55):
request for the 87 dollars?
Like it'd feel weird to me.
So so I'm with this girl andsome of our friends and in front
of all our friends she's likeZach, you know, you're a sugar
daddy, right?
And I was like what are youtalking about?
And she's like, yeah, you takethese girls on trips, you pay
for hotels, you pay for flights,you pay for all these things.

(17:17):
She's like every guy pays for agirl in some way, whether it's
drinks, whether it's trips,whether it's Louis Vuitton bags,
she's like everybody's a sugardaddy.

Speaker 1 (17:32):
There's just low class sugar daddies and high
class sugar daddies.

Speaker 2 (17:33):
I never thought about that.
Like, if you see it that way,yeah, but where I draw the
difference and I was mad becausein the moment I didn't think of
this argument I didn't think ofto later is if a girl is
already into me and we'realready dating and she was
dating me before I paid foranything, then I feel like she's

(17:54):
not dating me for the money andfor the trips and for whatever
I'm taking her on, versus if I'mmy first contact with a girl is
like hey, I'll take you on atrip, then it's kind of like hey
, please.
Like like, hey, I'll take youon a trip.
Then it's kind of like hey,please like me.
See, I'll give you this freetrip.
It feels transactional, feelslike a sugar, yeah, that's what
I was about to say.

Speaker 1 (18:12):
When you say what is the difference Like when you are
dating somebody, you actuallylike that person.
You are going out with thatperson because you like them and
they are inviting you.
They are not giving you money.
They are not giving you.
I mean, you can buy her a bagProbably maybe it's not a Prada.

Speaker 2 (18:28):
I don't really do the bag things.
I do more of the trip.
I like experiences yeah exactly.

Speaker 1 (18:31):
It's like you do things, that you're going to
spend time with her, and it'sdifferent.
It's not that transactional.
Instead, when you see a girllike your girlfriend or you are
dating somebody, you are payingfor the dinner because you are
being a gentle man.
But if it's a sugar, that ispaying for the dinner and plus
is paying you money to be thereto be his company.

(18:54):
So, that's more transactionalbecause, plus, he's giving you
money for that.
Even if you go to a trip, yes,he pays for the trip, but he
pays you money to go on thattrip.
If you are inviting to a girlto go to a trip, you are not
paying her, hey, I'm going togive you for the whole weekend,
5k plus.

Speaker 2 (19:09):
I pay for everything.
Yeah, no, no, no, no, yeah,exactly so that's where the
difference.
You got to tell my friend thatI got to bring you around next
time so you can lay the hammerdown.
So do you think that money isimportant, or success or
ambition in a guy you date ingeneral, outside of the sugar
daddy realm?
Is it something, one of thethings on your list, one of your

(19:31):
criteria?

Speaker 1 (19:33):
that's really personal, that's the pen of the
person, like everything, likemoney helps, of course, but I
mean if you date a guy that isbroken, of course the
relationship is going to be morecomplicated, it's broke, it's
broke, he's broken, broken, he'sbroken.

Speaker 2 (19:50):
Broken means he's like emotionally fucking broken.
But yeah, I got what you'resaying, you got it Sorry.

Speaker 1 (19:56):
So yes, he's broke.
That's not like I think it willstop me from dating him.
But you have to know likethat's gonna be more complicated
for you guys to date becausethat means you're gonna have to
help him too.
So let's say you're paying likethree thousand dollars on rent
okay, and normally the pay theguy when you're dating somebody

(20:17):
in LA they will pay that for you.
But if you're dating somebodythat cannot afford that from you
, that means both of you aregonna have to to pay, and if
he's broke you're going to haveto help him probably more than
that.
So I guess it comes more stressfor you.
Like to work more, to make moremoney to be able to support
that household Household.
That's how you say it.
So, yes, if you are datingsomebody that has more money,

(20:40):
yes, of course it's easier.
It's a lot of worries that youdon't have to think about it.
Everything comes easier whenthe other person is just like
more work.

Speaker 2 (20:49):
I just feel like girls sell themselves short a
lot of times because they getalmost tricked into these.
Okay, I got an argument with mymom.
The other night Okay.
And she's like Zach.
You, you know, she's veryreligious, very homebody,
wisconsin person, conservative,and she's like zach.
You always date these modelsand actresses in la.

(21:11):
You should.
Why do you care about looks?
You should, you know, go forpersonality.
Find a nice girl from church,right, I'm like mom.
So do you think I should datean ugly girl?
And she's like no, not an uglygirl, you should just care more
about personality.
And I'm like okay, so there arebeautiful girls with amazing
personalities and then there'sugly girls with amazing

(21:35):
personalities.
Of course I'm going to choosethe beautiful girl with the
amazing personality and I thinkfor girls it's like there's rich
guys with great personalitiesand then there's broke dudes
with great personalities andthen there's broke dudes with
great personalities.
Like two plus two is four.
Why would you not want the richguy with a good personality?

Speaker 1 (21:51):
That's true.
But that comes with a problemtoo, because it's true you can
find that.
But this is the way I seethings.
If I found that kind of person,of course I would like it.
Who wouldn't like it?
But then I think I'm in LA, Iknow how these things work and I
feel that guy is not only goingto have me, he's going to have
three more.
And just because he has moneyI'm going to have to allow it

(22:12):
because he's giving me expensivethings all the time and he's
caring about me.
So if I find something out Ihave to let him be.
But if I have an ugly boyfriend, I feel like then he's not that
much worry about it.
You know, or broke, he's notgonna be able to pay another
girl to take her out.

Speaker 2 (22:29):
You want to settle for ugly broke dude that's not
what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (22:34):
But I say you have to look at everything.

Speaker 2 (22:38):
The full picture.
Yeah, what's your type?
Let's go looks first physicaland then we'll do personality
next.

Speaker 1 (22:48):
I don't know, because it depends Looks okay, I guess,
growing up like Barbie and Kenand all of these, I will say
blonde, blue eyes yes, that'sthe always thing that make me
crazy, but I barely have beenwith that type of guy.
How come?
I don't know, because I alwayssay that's the always thing that
make me crazy, but I barelyhave been with that type of guys
.

Speaker 2 (23:04):
So how come?

Speaker 1 (23:06):
I don't know, because I always say that's my type of
guys that I like, and when I seesomebody with blue eyes, I'm
like, oh my god, he's sohandsome, it's the best color?

Speaker 2 (23:13):
yeah, just for having .

Speaker 1 (23:14):
Just for having blue eyes, I'm already like, oh my
gosh.
Later I met a lot of differenttype of guys that are not my
type at all and I like themanyways.
I mean depending on thepersonality.

Speaker 2 (23:26):
What about height?
Do you need someone taller thanyou?

Speaker 1 (23:29):
I don't really care about height.
I mean, it's always weird ifthe man is a little shorter than
you, you know, because theylike you.
I don't know if you wear likeheels or everything, I don't
care.
Honestly, I will go super happywith somebody that is shorter
than me, but I feel it's morelike a thing for them, so I will
feel bad for them that they areshorter than me.

Speaker 2 (23:53):
I dated a girl one time.
It was the first fashion modelI dated, so she was like 5'11",
so she's like three inchesshorter than me, but with heels
she's like the same height right.
And she told me a funny storybecause she said, zach, you know
, I always used to datebasketball players, nba people,
blah, blah, blah, blah, blah,and I got fucked over so many
times.
I'm like, fuck these guys, I'mgoing to date a short King,

(24:15):
right.
So she starts dating this guythat's like five, eight, which
is actually average height for aguy, but from girls eyes that's
like short right and her 5, 11,with heels she's like towering
over him like shrek right, likeshrek and donkey.
And she said on the third dateshe's like I had a couple
glasses of wine and he comesover and she's like he opens the

(24:39):
door and she's like I give hima hug and she's like and then I
picked him up and I swung himaround and I watched his little
legs swing around and she goeszach.
In that moment I lost allattraction for him and I
couldn't do it anymore I mean,of course, if you do that, yeah,
that's extra nail.

Speaker 1 (24:57):
I know it's like that was your fault.
You didn't have to do thatexactly, but I get it too.

Speaker 2 (25:01):
It's like yeah, it's like I, I prefer kissing down to
kissing up.

Speaker 1 (25:07):
It just feels weird like hey, babe, that's right, I
never thought about that likekissing down.
It feels awkward that's right,so how guys have to do that with
girls all the time no, I likeguys like kissing down.

Speaker 2 (25:19):
Yeah, it's like a masculine yeah dominant.

Speaker 1 (25:23):
Thing yeah, I guess I never really thought about that
because I never really went outwith like short guys, because
I'm tiny, I'm not too big howtall are you?
Five, two, something like that.
So I'm not really.

Speaker 2 (25:37):
You seemed a little bit taller than that.

Speaker 1 (25:39):
Yeah, maybe I don't know, but I'm no, but I'm not
too tall.
That's why for me it's a littlehard to find like guys that are
like shorter than me and morein la, like in america.
I feel like guys here arereally tall.
I feel in europe you can findmore like small guys, but here
most of them are really tallyeah, america's a huge,
everything's huge.

Speaker 2 (25:59):
Our fucking streets, like your european streets, are
just like oh, two cars can likebarely fit.
Our streets are like fucking,that happened to me.

Speaker 1 (26:06):
So I went last summer I went back to spain after five
years that I I didn't go backto spain and to europe or
anywhere.
And it was so funny because Iwent home, to my home, where I
grew up with my friends andeverybody was visiting me and I
had to put a laundry.
So I went to put a laundry andI keep looking at the washing
machine and I'm like, oh, my God, this is so small, where is my

(26:29):
clothes are going to fit?
And I get all confused and Ithought, oh, maybe the washer
broke and my mom just boughtlike a small, tiny one, for you
know, until like she can buyanother one.
And I asked my mom and myfriends that were there like,
hey, why is this so small?
Like did the other one break?
And everybody looks at me andstart laughing and he's go no,
what is wrong?
It's the normal size.

(26:49):
And I'm like, no, this is small.
And they go Daniela, are youokay?
And I didn't realize it'sbecause in America everything is
bigger and I went back.
Everything was just so small,like the apartments, like the
tables, the chairs, the cars.

Speaker 2 (27:04):
It was crazy yeah, I went to london one time and, uh,
the girl I was dating had likea modeling gig down there and we
rented a car and so, first ofall, it's on the wrong side.
They put the steering wheel onthe wrong side.
In london it's like on theright side or whatever the fuck.
And then on top of that, thestreets that were going down

(27:24):
were like tiny and I had so muchanxiety driving because I was
like am I gonna fucking smackinto somebody?
And like you can barely see?

Speaker 1 (27:31):
and then, because you're on the right side, it's
like harder to see if you'regonna hit people yeah, and then
you're just not used to it and Iwas just like take me back to
america for me was weird, like Igot a little excited too when I
went back and everybody waslike, it's not that you grew up
there and you have been yourwhole life there, and it's like,
yes, but it's five years herewith the, their culture, their

(27:55):
lifestyle, and it really changeswhen you go back there yeah,
yeah, what's your so?

Speaker 2 (28:01):
so looks blue eyes, but you don't really care that
much what, what, what is yourtype?
Personality, wise?

Speaker 1 (28:08):
I told you before, I really like the sweet guys.
I like this.
I feel like this is a lie.

Speaker 2 (28:14):
No, for real all the guys I know that are very sweet,
get no girls.

Speaker 1 (28:19):
I mean begging girls, I mean no they have to be
handsome, they need to havesomething like personality, like
something is not because he'sthe sweetest guy on the world
and he's ugly or whatever.
I'm gonna go with him, but, yes, like I can be like in in a
club, okay, dancing, and thehardest guy comes to me, but
he's a dick and he knows his hatand he acts like that with me.

Speaker 2 (28:41):
I'm out like no but if a guy, the problem is, and
tell me if you agree, most niceguys are just boring.

Speaker 1 (28:54):
They're boring, they're not boring to you I mean
, it's just because I'm thinkingin one person that I dated and
he was the nicest guy ever.
Like that's one that I reallyreally fell for Things in that
bad and yeah, he was boring.
He was boring, but I reallydon't care.

(29:15):
I didn't care, I see no.

Speaker 2 (29:17):
Maybe you just are a sweetheart and the nice guys are
great.

Speaker 1 (29:22):
I don't know are a sweetheart and you, just the
nice guys are great.
I don't know, I just like to betreated good and like something
different that I saw too when Iwas in alabama like everybody
was getting married at 20s, likeyou finished?
college you meet somebody, youhave kids.
Like everything was super fastgoing on and when I came here I
see like guys still like datingwhen they are 40s and 50s.

(29:43):
Like nobody's in a relationshiphere.
So that's like in the samecountry, like how different you
go from one state to another.
That's why I call LA the bubble.

Speaker 2 (29:53):
The bubble.
Yeah, it is very much thebubble.

Speaker 1 (29:56):
So I don't know.
I feel like if I go to a datehere, I cannot find sweet guys,
because right away they're goingto say like, hey, let's go to a
date here.
I cannot find sweet guysbecause right away they're gonna
say like hey, let's go to myhouse later.
And I'm like, no, I wantsomething else.
You know, I want to talk, Iwant to know to, to know you,
but here it's like it's fast,it's like I know you, you're hot
, let's go to there, you know so, so.

Speaker 2 (30:15):
So what happens is because because, like I said,
I've been in all three nice guy,fuck boy.
Now I consider myself agentleman.
That's the third stage of theevolution.
It's like the caterpillar, thecocoon, the butterfly, right.
So what happens to guys is theystart off as nice guys and then
girls do this thing where theysay we love nice guys, they're
the best, and then they go datefuck boys.

(30:38):
And then the nice guy, over andover, gets friend zone, friend
zone, friend zone.
And he's like wait, let me lookwith my eyeballs in reality and
not live in Tinkerbellfairytale land and I see all
these beautiful girls datingthese guys who are assholes, an

(31:03):
asshole, and it's like.
It's like, let me ask you thishave you ever heard girls say
this?
They'll say, oh, if it's a guythat I really like, I'll make
him.
I'll make him wait, I'll makehim wait three dates a month,
whatever.
Yeah, if it's a guy, is this afuck boy?
I'll fuck him on the firstnight yeah, and I'm like it's
like that.

Speaker 1 (31:19):
Are you guilty of that?

Speaker 2 (31:20):
is that no, okay, not really so what happens is guys
notice this and they startthinking man, every time I'm
nice, I don't get laid.
Every time I'm an asshole, Iget laid, I'm gonna stop being
nice.
And then, over time, all thenice guys slowly but surely
transition to the fuck boy phase.
And that's what happens in la.

(31:41):
It's like a cycle.

Speaker 1 (31:43):
It's a cycle yeah, that's so sad though it is kind
of sad no, but I don't feel likeI'm like that because, like
when I go out with a guy andright away like treats me bad or
it's like trying to fuck withme in the first night, I'm out
like I don't how long do youusually make a guy wait?
I mean I don't never like makethem wait, like hey, I'm

(32:03):
counting, like okay, three datesis too early, I go with the
flow, but I like to know whathis intentions are.
If I see his intentions areonly that, I mean it's kind of
what you were saying before.
If I like him used to like as afuck boy probably.
Yes, I met him.
I know I get to know him alittle bit and later, okay,
because I know I don't wantnothing from him either so if he

(32:24):
works both ways and we arehappy, why why not?
but if I really like the guy,it's not that I make him wait,
but I want to know hisintentions are real.
So once I kind of know he'sgoing like serious with this,
yeah that's how you judge things.
Yeah it never works, but I meanlike never works, exactly like

(32:45):
that.

Speaker 2 (32:45):
But I've become much more picky with my standard for
intelligence for girls than Iused to be in my 20s.
I don't care, you're hot, cool,let's hang out right.
And now I've got to the pointwhere I just get bored If I'm
I'm talking to a girl and andnot intelligence in a

(33:07):
necessarily like you went tocollege or you read a lot of
books.
But like social intelligence,like people who want to talk
about psychology, the way thereason people are, the way that
they are, like that stuff islike intellectually stimulating
to me in a way that it's kind oflike you were saying like if a
guy's super hot but then heopens his mouth and you're kind
of like it kind of doesn't doanything for you anymore yeah,

(33:29):
even like he can be super hot,but it's not even for one night.

Speaker 1 (33:33):
Night night.
I cannot say that nine standhow you say that yeah, I cannot
say that I see, I see, so yeahso?

Speaker 2 (33:43):
so you have all these things that you look for, right
?
So what do you bring to thetable to kind of match the guy
that you want to go for?

Speaker 1 (33:54):
that's a good question.
You got me there.
You got me there.

Speaker 2 (34:01):
I'm like wait a minute you're like I'm, but I'm
cute no, no, no, no, like that,not like that.

Speaker 1 (34:10):
It's just because it's what I was talking before.
Like I'm a hard worker, likeI'm not a person that wants,
like a guy used, to pay for her.
Of course, that's nice, but Iwant to have, you know, my own
money, like be able to create myown things.
But I told you, I'm in thisstage where I really like, want
to have, you know, my own money,like be able to create my own
things.
But I told you, I'm in thisstage where I really like want
to travel and enjoy and have theexperience, because I want kids
, I want a family.

(34:31):
I'm super like I know what Iwant.
So I'm thinking, oh, my god,I'm coming to the 30s, you know,
and you know the woman likebottle inside, like, oh, if I
want to have kids, I cannot waittoo long until I found the
person, because blah, blah, blah.
So I'm like, okay, if I want tohave kids, I cannot wait too
long until I found the person,because blah, blah, blah.
So I'm like, okay, if I'mcoming to the 30s, I want to
find that man where I'm gonnahave the family and I'm gonna
have kids, and I'm 26, so I havethose four years.

(34:53):
So that's why it's like, okay,now is not the moment.
I want to travel, I want toexperience until I find that guy
to actually create a family.

Speaker 2 (35:01):
I see, I see, so now I see.

Speaker 1 (35:02):
So now it's just like enjoying.

Speaker 2 (35:05):
Is your.
So you said you have a strongwork ethic.
What?
What are some of your goals interms of what you're trying to
do?

Speaker 1 (35:13):
So everything changed when I came to LA honestly and
too bad, not too good, like whenI was in Spain.
I went to college.
I'm a PE teacher, so I actuallyno way, my dad's a PE teacher
oh really.
So I used to work in schools andwith kids like multi-adventure
companies.
I love like kayaking, like rockclimbing, like with kids,

(35:33):
everything that is sports withthem.
So I thought, oh, I'm coming tothe States, I'm going to learn
English, I'm going to come backand that's going to help me way
better because I can work ininternational schools and they
pay way better.
That was my idea, like straight,like nothing too crazy.
I didn't know more than that.
Come to America to learnEnglish, to Alabama, Nice place.
Everything was going good untilI had the amazing idea to come

(35:55):
to LA.
I come to LA and I find all ofthis this like bubble.
And I see where, like everybodybasically pays you to go out to
dinner, Everybody pays you togo on a vacation, Like you have
all this sugar that is.
You have like all these thingslike the easy work, like who
doesn't work to work here isbecause they don't want.
I mean you can find jobanywhere and being a woman in LA

(36:17):
, I feel, is really really easy.
So I think that's where my waywent a little bad, because it's
just so easy that you stopworking for what you really want
.

Speaker 2 (36:28):
I think that it's easy, but it's also hard.
I didn't understand this untilwhen I was 25, I dated the first
girl that I would consider like, legitimately beautiful, like
really, and seeing her life.
What I realized is, yes, freedrinks, free vacations, private
jet, this yacht, that right.

(36:48):
But I also realized that withevery opportunity comes these
invisible strings attached, andon top of that, it's very
difficult to know what girls areyour real friends and what
girls are secretly jealousbehind you, your back, and are
going to talk shit about you andbe nice to your face.
And it's also difficult to knowwhat guys are actually your

(37:10):
friends and what guys secretlywant to fuck you and and and
they're just waiting for theiropportunity.
And if you ever reject them,they're going to get angry and
butt hurt and talk shit behindyour back.

Speaker 1 (37:20):
So it's also difficult to know who you can
trust yeah, like on my case, Iknow a lot of people in la, a
lot of girls that are in theindustry, but as a friend,
friend I only have one.
That's true yeah likegirlfriend, like real, that I
know I can trust.
She's from spain.

Speaker 2 (37:37):
She's not even like from here, so I find that it's
very I blame girls and I alsodon't blame girls.
My guy friends I've beenfriends with for like seven
years, like ever since I movedhere.
I got my.
My close guy friends were allfriends, but I find this all the
time where I'll meet a girl inla and I'm like who's your best

(38:00):
friend?
My friend Tori, we met lastweek at the club.
I'm like last week, whathappened to the last eight years
?
Where are all these people inyour life?
What I realized is guys arecompetitive, but we, it's like

(38:20):
in a sports way, we're like wait, I played football in high
school, so like you playfootball in practice, we're all
yelling at each other.
We fucking hate each other.
We're all competing for the topspot.
But then at the end of practicewe all come back to the same
locker room and we're on thesame team and everybody's cool
Right.
And I feel like with girls it'slike the opposite, where

(38:42):
they're very competitive yeah,but then there's no like locker
room moment.
At the end of the night we'relike, hey, we're all in this
together no, probably they willend up fighting yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (38:53):
I don't know why is that?
But, yes, like it's just likewe are different and like men
and women, and just like guysused to tend to be cool between
them, even like if something badhappened, but girls we hold
like grudges.
So, yeah, we are more jealousand we try to be better than
each other.

Speaker 2 (39:13):
It's just harder, I guess the other thing, too, is
why girls are somewhat to blamefor this.
Is is okay.
So, for example, one of my exeswe're still friends, right, and
I will consistently see her ata party with her real friends
having actual, real fun and thenshe gets a text from a promoter

(39:37):
that there's this celebrityhere, g-eazy's at this party,
this TikToker's at this party,and she will leave a party with
her actual friends to go to someparty that G-Eazy's at, except
turns out the promoter was lyingto her and G-Eazy's not even
fucking there Just to try to getsome fake clout that she

(39:57):
doesn't even care about.
And it was kind of crazy.
She had her birthday and shewas like Zach, can I use the
house for your birthday?
Everybody's always asking me touse this place for events and
things.
I'm like yeah for sure, likewe're exes but we're still
friends, and she's like allexcited about it.
She decorates the entire house,she buys all this alcohol and
food.
She's like Zach I got 80 peopleon party full that are coming

(40:21):
to my birthday and literally 10people show up and I felt so bad
for her on one extent.
But then I told her a couple ofdays later, after you know
she'd cried it out andeverything.
I was like look, the reality isyou're prioritizing clout and
status over genuine friendshipsand if you continue to do that,

(40:43):
you're going to continue to endup with these shallow
relationships.

Speaker 1 (40:48):
Yeah, but I think that happens here so easy,
because everybody just tried tobe like better and better and
look with who I'm around.

Speaker 2 (40:56):
Look, what party.

Speaker 1 (40:57):
I'm going.
That is when you start losingyourself.
That's when I told you that Ifelt like, since I came to LA,
my life went kind of that waytoo, because I remember the
parties with my friends realfriends I would laugh, I would
have fun.
And now for trying to followthe cloud or try to be in those
places I don't have fun, but I'mthere why?

(41:17):
Because it's the cool thing todo so later.
Those places, I don't have fun,but I'm there why?
Because it's the cool thing todo so later.
I see myself there.
Yeah, maybe I have next to me,I don't know, a snoop dog or
whatever, but is he talking tome?
No, I'm just here for the clout.
So, and later you are missingimportant moments that you could
actually be having fun just forthat.

Speaker 2 (41:33):
But that's what everybody follows here it's so
confusing to me too because,like, I understand why guys want
clout.
Because if you're a guy, if youdon't have clout, you're like
here, and then you get clout,and then girls like you because
you have clout and then you getgirls.
I'm like it's a linearrelationship to going from

(41:53):
lonely to like getting chicks.
I get it, I understand it,understand it Right.
If you're a girl, you starthere you get clout and they
would.
And then that's it.
What is the clout for?
You just have clout to haveclout Like.
What is the purpose of theclout?

Speaker 1 (42:09):
I think I think, for I talk for, like my friends,
what I see for them and me it'slike more you get clout, you get
more attention from people's,like more people get to know you
and from there you just getmore things.
I mean most of that my girls,girlfriends that are models and
go to all these parties.
Most of it what they found issugar.

(42:29):
That is, from from that comesmore money and more
opportunities to like, I guess,make your life easier.

Speaker 2 (42:37):
See, that makes sense to me.
I feel like that's a reasonthat's very honest.
But most girls would not admit,you know what I mean yeah.
And obviously it's not you,it's your friends.
But a lot of girls will say,for example oh, I'm going for
networking and they'll be goingto like Drake's party or

(42:58):
whatever.
Right, yeah, and I'm like youand they'll be going to like
Drake's party or whatever.
Right, yeah, and I'm likeyou're not even in the music
industry.
The fuck are you talking about?

Speaker 1 (43:03):
Drake's party.

Speaker 2 (43:04):
Like you do, acting Like Drake's, not making a movie
the fuck are you talking about?
But I agree with you, it'seither the sugar to anything.
But I think a lot of girlsliterally just want it to
literally be able to think I'mthe cool kid.
You're not, I'm cool, you're aloser.
Just like in high school.
I'm the hot cheerleader, I'mnot the nerd.

(43:25):
It's literally still in, likehigh school type of bullshit.

Speaker 1 (43:28):
Yeah, Because that happened to me a little bit with
my Instagram.
So before I came here to theStates I probably had a thousand
followers.
It's not that.
I have a lot now, but so I camehere and I didn't almost use
social media nothing whateverand what happened.
When I moved here and I starteddoing cool things that people
invite me, like going to thisparty, so go to the mansions

(43:49):
that you see the Lamborghini andall those cars in the front you
are like, oh my god, I'm here,I never did that before.
So you start making videos andposting, like that's something.
So what happened?
That created a lot ofengagement back in Spain with
people that know me, that wentto high school with me and they
know me as a normal person andlater they see all of that and
they think I became somebodythat honestly, no, I'm not, I'm

(44:12):
the same person, I'm justgetting invited to these things.
But it created all these thingswhere all my town because you
know, I'm from europe, it's sosmaller and my town is small,
where all the people, likeliterally everybody, reached to
me like, hey, did you win thelottery?
Like, who did you marry?
Who are you dating?
Who are you?
Are you a model, are youactress?
And everybody just thinks youare everything and, honestly,

(44:33):
you're just getting invited tothese things I got uh, do you
know what catfish means?

Speaker 2 (44:38):
yeah I got lifestyle catfished by this girl one time.
It was 2020, so early.
Covid.
Covid's just starting.
And do you remember when tiktokwas first blowing up?
Everybody's getting a millionfollowers.
So I started dating this girl.
She had a million plusfollowers on tiktok every, every
day, on her instagram, yachtprivate jet, all this shit right

(45:00):
and she would always come to myhouse to hang out and I'm like
you know you drive throughtraffic every time, every once
in a while like I can come toyour place.
She's like no, that's okay,don't worry about it.
I'm like that's weird.
So one day I end up going overthere and she lives in the
valley.

Speaker 1 (45:16):
Have you been to the valley?
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (45:17):
Okay, so the valley is like.
Have you seen the movie LionKing, the new one?
Either one.

Speaker 1 (45:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (45:26):
You know when Simba and Mufasa are up on Pride Rock.

Speaker 1 (45:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (45:30):
And he's like Simba.
He's like everything the lighttouches is your kingdom.
And then he's like see thosedark, shadowy areas.
Never go there.
There's crackhead hyenas, it'sdangerous.
She lived in the shadowy areasokay, yeah, yeah so I go there
and she opens the door and I'mlike, yo, what's up?
She's like, hey, this is myplace.

(45:51):
And I'm like, yeah, give me thetour.
And I see her you know fourroommates on the couch or
whatever and she opens this room.
I'm like, oh, this is a nicelike walking closet.
And she's like, uh, this is myroom.
I kid you not, it was just amattress on the ground, no
fitted sheet, just the flat.

Speaker 1 (46:11):
Yeah, I could go like this and touch both of the
walls.

Speaker 2 (46:14):
but the craziest part , you're not gonna believe this
we start watching a movie onHulu on her laptop.
Because she doesn't have a TV,she has Hulu with advertisements
.
Oh my God.

Speaker 1 (46:28):
I'm like you were on a yacht a private jet yesterday.
Your Hulu has advertisementsLike what is this Probably
wasn't even hers.
She was Probably someone else'saccount.

Speaker 2 (46:38):
And it's just so crazy to me that the lifestyle
can be like that much difference.
But it is what it is in laeverybody flashes what people
say is here.

Speaker 1 (46:45):
Fake it until you make it.
No, I mean that's definitelythe culture, for sure but yeah,
I think what happened to me,like what I was telling you, is
that how I came here.
Actually, I don't think youknow about this.
You know what is an au pair?
Yeah, like a nanny that's how Icame here I was one of those
for like families too.
So by accident I don't know howI end up with really, really

(47:06):
rich families.
One of the families that I livewith.
They had a 25 million mansion.
I was living in a 12 bathroomhouse, like 20 rooms.
It was fucking insane.
So what happened?
I started filming all of that,like I was living there.
I did live there for a year,two years, you got long.
Yeah, but it wasn't mine.
So I think that's what Istarted creating all the

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attention on my Instagram.
And that's when everybody islike, oh my God, how you got all
of that.
They give me a porch to drivebecause they didn't have like
anything like for me to drive,so I just got one of their cars.
So, of course, me that comefrom nowhere, living in a 25
million mansion with a porchdriving, so everybody just
thought that was mine and I letit be and that's how everything

(47:50):
they want to believe it.
Yes, I'm like, whatever I mean,who really was my friend and
wanted to talk to me and ask me.
I will tell them no, I'm ananny, oh you didn't say sorry,
peasants, no, no, no because Iknew that would end, you know,
and later I have to go back.

Speaker 2 (48:06):
So later back to reality.
So later.

Speaker 1 (48:11):
No, I'm broke.
No, just kidding.
What do?

Speaker 2 (48:14):
you, uh, so so your last relationship was that the
four-year one, or did you haveone?

Speaker 1 (48:21):
No, I had the three-year-old one in Alabama,
oh that was in Alabama.

Speaker 2 (48:25):
Yeah, and that was the one of the nice guys.

Speaker 1 (48:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (48:28):
How did you guys meet ?

Speaker 1 (48:30):
So the crazy thing, we were neighbors but we met in
a club, but we didn't know wewere neighbors.
I see, I see, but he left liketwo houses down the street so
that was crazy.

Speaker 2 (48:40):
And what was it about him that attracted you to him
originally?

Speaker 1 (48:44):
his personality.
He was super sweet, he was asweetheart like literally, and
he was, I don't know, like hedidn't try to rush anything.
He I didn't even think he wasinto me because he didn't try
anything.
I remember it has been like amonth or two months and he
didn't even kiss me and I waslike we are friends.

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He didn't like me.
Were you disappointed at thetime?
Or were you like yeah, becauseI didn't understand what was
going on.

Speaker 2 (49:11):
But he would take you on dates or no.

Speaker 1 (49:12):
Yeah, I mean, but I thought they could be confused
as like going out with yourfriend.

Speaker 2 (49:20):
It wasn't like dinner .

Speaker 1 (49:21):
I mean, we went sometimes to a dinner and he
brought his sister.
So I thought, okay, he wants meto introduce to his family.
He started with his sister andstuff.
But I don't know.
I thought, friends, because whowaits two months for even like
kiss you?
So that was a little weird forme two months is a lot
especially for a guy to wait, Iknow, but later I understood

(49:42):
later we talk and he told me henever been with a girl before
and he was new, so it was yeah,that's sweet.
Yeah, it was sweet later overtime.
That drive me crazy, though,but I did like that why did it
drive you crazy?
Because if you start likedating somebody, like I say, I
like sweet, like sweet andgentle and like people that like

(50:04):
to take things slow but later,at the same time you want to
have fun and if somebody'sstarting with you, you can need
someone to pull your hair andpush you up against the wall not
sometimes.
So if he's too sweet all thetime, he was even sweet there,
so that's nice, but sometimesyou want a little of action and
that was not going anywhere withhim interesting.

Speaker 2 (50:27):
So so that relationship, how did it end oh?

Speaker 1 (50:32):
complicated.
I don't know if I can say thathere.

Speaker 2 (50:35):
Uh, you have to get into it if you don't want to.

Speaker 1 (50:37):
No, no, because I don't know if I can say that
here you don't have to get intoit if you don't want to.
No, no, because I don't know ifthat's like illegal to say or
not, but basically Illegal,illegal, no, but I did something
that it wasn't like right to do.
So basically how he ended likego after the three years and
everything that happened to usby that time I had to move for

(50:57):
work to Florida and I was livingin Florida but he would come to
see me all the time.
We were kind of into a fight.
He was drinking and we got intothe car and we were kind of
fighting in the car but he wasdrunk and I was sober and he was
driving and I told him no, letme drive the car home.
And he said no, no, no, I'mdriving and I'm like no, you are
drinking, I'm driving and itwas raining.

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So then he didn't let me takethe keys of the car and he
wanted to drive.
Five minutes on the car, twominutes, we crashed, but it was
a total like a lot of thingsdestroyed.
I go like, if you see my face,because my the window of my side
broke so the glass like kind ofcut all my face.
I hurt my hip, like it was bad.

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I almost died.
Like when the cops andeverybody came they said you are
like lucky to be alive, you'relucky.
But the thing is like by thetime we get out of the car the
cops came but they didn't knowwho was driving and me like
fucking stupid.
I was super in love, I was likemad in love.
I knew he was drinking and hedid a car crash and everything.

(52:03):
I knew he was going to prison,he was going to lose his job.
I knew how bad it would be forhim, so I didn't have a better
idea to take the blame.
So when the cops came Ibasically took all the blame,
said I was driving and they kindof forced me to say that it
wasn't me because they didn'tbelieve me they knew you're
lying they knew and they triedto pull up some like bullshit to

(52:24):
try to make me say I was inline and they tried to scare me
like hey, you are making afelony.
If you do that you can go toprison.
So you know, I was nervous atthat time.
I knew English but not too muchand I took the blame anyway.
I was like if I have to go toprison I go for him damn so I
took the whole blame.
I have a record where myinsurance now is fucking

(52:46):
expensive.
I pay a lot of insurance justbecause that crash.
You should make him pay for it.
I know it comes like it was mine.
And after that the most insane,insane thing happened.
So his car was total and it wasa nice car because his parents
had a lot of money, so they justbuy him another, another car.
But he called me and he's likehey, daniela, I'm super sad,

(53:08):
like after what happened afterthe accident, I don't know how
I'm gonna get over this.
So basically, he took over, hehas a house, I mean, his family
has a house in italy.
I need to relax, I need to goto it and I'm like are you
kidding?
I couldn't go because I'mworking.
He goes to Italy and I findhe's cheating on me.

Speaker 2 (53:24):
No way so after the accident.

Speaker 1 (53:26):
I never saw him again because I went and blocked him
everywhere.
When I found out that becauseyou just do that for somebody
that is going to go into yourrecord for life and you just
screw me over in that way, sothat's when everything is.

Speaker 2 (53:40):
That's insane that you took the blame for him.

Speaker 1 (53:43):
I mean that's very.

Speaker 2 (53:45):
You have a very kind heart, you know.

Speaker 1 (53:48):
After that, not that way.

Speaker 2 (53:50):
Not the same, not anymore.

Speaker 1 (53:52):
No, don't change though you know, don't change.
I know, but you don't wantsomebody to play with you
Because that like anger andthose things like keep inside of
you at least I couldn't likehow to say?
Like clean myself and feel goodfor what I did.
It's the opposite I feel badfor what I did and I'm like how
I was so stupid yeah, yeah, Ifucked it up with this girl.

Speaker 2 (54:13):
That was have you ever been in love?
How many times have you been inlove?
I think just one just like whatI can call like one, yeah, same
same.
I fucked this one up, thoughit's kind of my fault.
I met this girl most genuine,kind-hearted soul I've ever met
in my life.
I remember first date.
I take her to like fancyrestaurant right, she's in this

(54:34):
beautiful red cocktail dress uh,very classy.
And we're walking back to thevalet after dinner and there's
like this homeless guy on theside of the street.
So of course I, like you know,go on the side of the homeless
guy just to protect her orwhatever.
And she walks right past me, upto this homeless guy and she
reaches in her purse and giveshim like a $10 Ralph's gift card

(54:54):
, like a grocery store gift cardand talks to him for like 10
minutes while we wait for thethe valet, and turns out she
just kept all these like giftcards in her purse just in case
she had to give it to somebodyoh, wow um, another time there
was.
Uh, I went to her house andthere was just this dog comes
running up to me like barkinglike when the fuck did you get a

(55:16):
dog?
and she walks out with a stackof papers, and she was like on
the highway and there's this dogon the side of the road and so
she like pulls over, puts a dogin the back seat and then the
next, you know four or fivehours we're putting up flyers,
trying to find, like, the dogowner or whatever.
And what I didn't realize atthe time because I was immature,

(55:36):
it is with that level ofkindness always comes, uh,
another side of inconvenience.
Right, it's like even the dogstory.
Right, we're supposed to go tothe beach, have a beach day, and
instead I'm running around townfucking stapling flyers to
lampposts.

Speaker 1 (55:55):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (55:56):
It's kind of like and in my mind I'm like you found
the dog on the highway.
We might not even be in theright town, like we don't even
know, but that was just herpersonality.
So the reason she broke up withme I I tried to take her on a
europe trip for her birthday andshe ended up breaking up with
me.
Um, basically, she'd alwayswanted to go to europe because

(56:19):
she did modeling and, like parisis like, was always her dream
to go to Europe because she didmodeling and, like Paris is like
, was always her dream to go to.
Paris, but she could never gobecause her mom lived in her
house and she would take care ofher mom.
Her mom was like older, but hermom was like a bitch to her,
like abusive, growing up, alwayslike rude and mean to her.
I called her out one time.
I'm like your daughter issacrificing her entire 20s to
take care of you.

(56:39):
You could at least be likerespectful to her.
And she didn't give a shit,right?
So on her birthday I surprisedher.
I'm like I'm going to take youon this Europe trip.
I'm like don't worry about yourmom.
I got a nurse.
She's going to come and takecare of your mom for, you know,
three weeks while we're inEurope.
And she's like Zach, like Ilove you so much for this, but

(57:05):
like I can't leave my mom.
And we got in this big fightand I'm telling her look, you
need to set boundaries.
Like, your mom doesn't own yourlife.
You can't just waste yourentire twenties Like like, just
because you're too scared to letyour mom go, right's like Zach
family's family.
And we got in this big fight.

(57:25):
I ended up going to Europe withone of my guy friends never
cheat on her or anything likethat, but she broke up with me,
and the reality is that at thattime I was just not enough of a
man to understand that I wasstill a enough of a man to
understand that I was still aboy, and I didn't understand
that that's what it takes todate a girl with that level of

(57:45):
kindness in her heart.

Speaker 1 (57:45):
You just want her to go to Europe with you.
Of course I did and I did careabout her very tremendously.

Speaker 2 (57:52):
But it's like, of course you're going to want
somebody that's that committedto the people she's committed to
, going to want somebody that'sthat committed to the people
she's committed to, but then ifyou want that, you have to
realize that your life not isnot always going to be
convenient and you're not goingto always be able to do the fun
things you want to do that'sright have you heard the three
loves theory?

(58:12):
So supposedly there's threeloves in your life okay, the
first one is like your firstlove, puppy love.
You're just so enamored becauseyou don't know what you're doing
.
The second one is like yourtoxic relationship.
And then the third one is likereal love, that's like where you
find your soulmate.

Speaker 1 (58:28):
So we have to go through like three, like real,
like relationships, until youfind your one.

Speaker 2 (58:33):
Yeah, exactly, I already wasted my three.
So maybe I'm fucked, I don'tknow.
Oh shit, I gotta find my thirdone again.
I gotta re-find, because she'sengaged now, so I gotta find
somebody else, maybe it juststarts over and you have to go
one, two, three again I gotta gothrough the fucking toxic one
again and you have time.

Speaker 1 (58:49):
You're in LA, so that means you have until like the
40s, 50 and let's be honesttoxic can be fun sometimes yeah,
I guess the only thing.
A relationship is never goingto work if you are too toxic.
I don't know.
I don't know, you're the Gemini, so yeah, I think the men just
get tired at some point.
I think at first, like you say,it's fun and you can deal with

(59:10):
it, but later it's just too much.

Speaker 2 (59:12):
It is too much for sure.
But it is fun for a while, tobe honest.

Speaker 1 (59:16):
Yeah, but you know the funny thing I'm toxic, but
most of the guys I have been,they are not toxic at all I know
you say you date these niceguys.

Speaker 2 (59:24):
That's what I'm surprised.

Speaker 1 (59:25):
Yeah, they're not toxic.
And I'm like, if they're sonice to me, how I cannot be like
the same and trustful and likeeverything is going to be fine.
But I'm the one that thinks ifthey go out, they're going to
cheat on you.

Speaker 2 (59:38):
I see Very controlling.

Speaker 1 (59:39):
Yeah, working on it.

Speaker 2 (59:41):
Interesting, but I also think there's some truth to
it's hard to say because thereis the argument that's going
around in the manosphere, tiktokspace, which they're like yeah,
if you have a girl and you'redating and she wants to go party
with her friends, you shouldsay no because you're like why

(01:00:05):
the fuck are you partying withyour whole friends?
You're going to go hook up withsome guy and then we're going to
ruin the relationship, right.
And then the feminist side islike, fuck you, stop being
controlling, she can do whatevershe wants Right.
And I'm in the middle where I'mlike, okay, controlling, she
can do whatever she wants Right.
And I'm in the middle where I'mlike, okay, I've dated girls

(01:00:26):
that she could go out to someclub with the hottest guys in
the world and the mostcelebrities, the most money, and
I have zero percent chance thatthey're going to cheat because
I just they're that kind ofperson.
They just don't cheat, they'rejust not that personality type.
But then I've also dated girlswho will tell me Zach, I would
never cheat on you.
And when they say it to me Idon't think they're lying
because they genuinely believethat they wouldn't cheat on

(01:00:48):
somebody.
But they just have thispersonality type.
When they're out with theirfriends, they're having fun, the
drinks are flowing, it justhappened.

Speaker 1 (01:01:01):
And for those girls it's like if I care about the
the relationship, then I do feellike I have a responsibility to
say, hey, no, you can't go withyour whole friends who are
gonna fucking rope you into someshenanigans yeah, um, I don't
know, like the, the guys that Idated, they always tell me oh,
go with your friends, go havefun, and they give me so much
trust that that's for me likethe reason that I cannot break

(01:01:22):
it, because it's like they aregiving me so much trust that how
I gonna do the opposite likethat, at least, is my case- but
you see, have you ever cheated?
in my, in my first relationshipyeah, the first, first one.
But yeah, but he never knew soprobably if he learns english
and he listens to this, at somepoint he will know.

(01:01:43):
I did sorry, bro, that'sembarrassing I'm sorry, but yeah
, but no.
After that I think like growingup and, if we might, I mean a
real relationship that I want towork for the future, that I
really think is gonna work out.
No, because I want somethingfor the future with that person,
so why are you gonna screw itout?
But the first one, when you areyoung, I guess.

(01:02:03):
So it's just yeah, you're justtrying out.
No, I don't know I think fromyour perspective, I don't think
he would have the same opinionon that yeah but it is what it
is but they think it was reallyobvious and he never find out,
and it was right on his face.
That make me oh so.
But they think it was reallyobvious and he never find out,
and it was right on his face.

Speaker 2 (01:02:21):
That make me feel bad .
Oh, so it was his fault.
It was his fault.

Speaker 1 (01:02:22):
I mean no, but no, he was a good guy.
Sorry, bro, I know that's sad.

Speaker 2 (01:02:35):
That's sad.
What is your growing upchildhood kind of thing?
Did you have good parents?
Are you close with your parents, siblings?

Speaker 1 (01:02:46):
No, so growing up was difficult because my mom got
pregnant.
Dad ran away, so I don't knowwho is my dad.
So you have daddy issues, oh myGod.
No, maybe that's why I'm sotoxic and controlling, maybe
because I'm like scared thatthey're gonna abandon me or
they're gonna like abandonmentissues.
Yeah, or maybe like you know,like treat me for other person

(01:03:07):
or like things like that.
Maybe that's where my likefears come from and that's why I
am the way I am.
You know he was never there.
So, yeah, I just grew up withmy mom.
No family, nobody, just me andmom.
She ran away when she gotpregnant.
Yeah, she left the family.
Nobody knew.
Crazy she went to anothercountry.
That's how I am Spanish.

Speaker 2 (01:03:26):
Where are you from originally?

Speaker 1 (01:03:27):
Portuguese.

Speaker 2 (01:03:29):
Oh, I see, I see, I see.

Speaker 1 (01:03:30):
But I mean, I'm Spanish, I was born there,
raised there, my friends there,family, everything.
The language, their family,everything yeah, so it is what
it is.
And yeah, I just grew up withmy mom, but she was really sick
while I was growing up so shespent most of her time in like
the hospital and stuff.
So I grew up by myself prettymuch all my life.
So I think that's when Istarted like dating too early

(01:03:52):
and everything, because I neverhad nobody home, nobody to
control me, nobody to sayanything.
So since I was young, I justcould do whatever I wanted.
But I think I'm pretty good forwhat I could became.
I'm pretty good, I'm happy.

Speaker 2 (01:04:05):
I'm very surprised you're not more jaded at life.
You seem to have a verypositive attitude.
Okay, I was like what thatmeans, like I never heard that
word it means like negative andlike oh, I've been fucked over
so many times, so fuckeverything.
Yeah, life sucks.

Speaker 1 (01:04:21):
I'm negative but you seem like a very positive person
.
No, because I feel like I mean,I'm not saying I'm lucky, but I
feel like, for everything thatI went through and how I grew up
, like things just shine whenthey have to shine, so I'm happy
.
I just feel like my way.
When the way had to go and thethings that I went through, it

(01:04:42):
was for a reason, so I'm happy.
I think they make you strongerand probably anything like that
had happened to me.
I will never leave my countryand live in america and
experience another country andleave everything I'm experienced
here.
I will be just a normal personlike everybody else.
Like I love my friends backhome.
I love them, but I feel theysee, like this, you know, and I

(01:05:03):
feel like they do the same thingwith their lives, like they
just don't expect more of life.

Speaker 2 (01:05:10):
So in Wisconsin when I grew up it's a very similar.
It's like a small town and it'slike, yeah, the guy's kind of
just like oh, my dad works atthis factory, I'm gonna work at
the same factory till I'm 65 andthen hopefully there's social
security.
I never leave my little bubble.
It's a very like conservative.
Never leave, kind of kind oflike my dad has never had sushi

(01:05:33):
in his life I'm just like you're60, how have you never had
sushi?
It's a very that's the kind ofthe culture in Wisconsin.

Speaker 1 (01:05:40):
So kind of same thing .
Of course we are way open, likeminded and everything, but
that's how I feel they are and Ijust feel like when I am able
to do everything that I'm doing,it's not like, oh my God, what
amazing, you know.
But I feel, oh my God, for myage.

Speaker 2 (01:05:59):
I did way more than a lot of people have ever done.
What made you like that?
Like what made you different?
Where you're like, yeah, fuckthe fuck this boring life where
we just follow the rules everytime and just do what you're
supposed to do, and like getmarried at age 21 and just have
three kids.
Like what made you like, fuckthis.
I want adventure, I want fun Idon't know.

Speaker 1 (01:06:14):
Probably I think about this a lot because a lot
of people ask me, like how youcan do it and you are not scared
and I cannot do this, and I'mlike.
It doesn't mean I'm not scared.
Of course I'm scared.
When I came here for the firsttime or when I like, when I came
to LA, you know, I was inAlabama and I was done with my
nanny, you know program, and Iwas supposed to go back to Spain

(01:06:36):
.
I had nobody in LA.
I didn't know nobody here, Ididn't have a job, I didn't have
a car, I didn't have anythingand I had money on my bank
account.
I had savings.
I'm really good with savingsand managing my life.
So I was like you know what Ialways wanted to go to LA.
I'm gonna go try.
I book a flight just away here.
I went the first week to like ahotel and I started figuring

(01:06:57):
out my life and in two weeks Ihad my whole life figured out
here, in two weeks and I waslike, if it goes bad, I just buy
another ticket and I go back toSpain and everything worked out
.
I was able to buy a car, Ifound a job with a week of being
here, and later I found anapartment rented with somebody.
Later I was able to get my ownapartment and just kind of roll

(01:07:17):
like that good for you, yeah.
But I don't know.
I think probably it's because ofpersonal opinion.
When you have family and whenyou have like a job like, let's
say, your partner and have acompany and says, oh, don't
worry about it, you're gonnawork in my company, you have
everything so secure, you haveyour mom, you have your dad, you
have your family but I feelwhen you don't have nobody that

(01:07:39):
that was my case it's like whatmakes me stay here, what I gonna
be here?
You already have, what you have, that is nothing, so you don't
lose, like for me.
I wasn't that scared because Ihad nothing to lose.
So it's like for me, being hereor being in another place is
starting from zero anyways,because I don't have family, I
have no no one and I don't havelike a dad that is gonna put me

(01:08:01):
into his job.
So I have to figure it out.
even I'm here, I'm in china Isee so you're like hey, better
than china yeah, I'm like hey, Iwanted to go I thought about it
.
I don't know about alabama Ididn't know what it was alabama
until I went there, but I likethe experience.
I will never take it away well,we're about out of time.

Speaker 2 (01:08:20):
I got some rapid fire questions for you.
A couple of quick ones.
What is your favorite food?

Speaker 1 (01:08:27):
Favorite food?
I don't have favorite food.

Speaker 2 (01:08:30):
Not at all.

Speaker 1 (01:08:31):
No, I love everything , I eat everything.
I just don't drink milk.
I mean I take cheese, cheese,whatever things like that, but
hate milk.

Speaker 2 (01:08:41):
Favorite candy.

Speaker 1 (01:08:43):
Candy, oh, kinder Bueno.
What is it?
Europeanian brand, I see.
Oh my God.

Speaker 2 (01:08:49):
What is it called Kinder Bueno.

Speaker 1 (01:08:50):
Kinder Bueno.
You can buy it here.
Oh, I see it.

Speaker 2 (01:08:52):
I think Bueno, it says Bueno.

Speaker 1 (01:08:54):
Yeah, it says Bueno.
It's kind of like red and white.

Speaker 2 (01:08:57):
Isn't it?
It's kind of like a cookie withchocolate inside Is it that one
?

Speaker 1 (01:09:00):
No, it's chocolate.
It's like milk chocolateactually.
It's like for kids, but I loveit.
It's the best.
I never try anything like that.

Speaker 2 (01:09:09):
Favorite first date spot or activity.

Speaker 1 (01:09:16):
It would be great if somebody tells me let's go rock
climbing.
That would excite me.
Like restaurants is basic, likegoing to a restaurant, anybody
can take you.
Like something more exciting,do you like hiking?

Speaker 2 (01:09:27):
yeah, I mean I've been to the waterfall one and um
, where is it?

Speaker 1 (01:09:30):
malibu, it's like up north.

Speaker 2 (01:09:32):
No, there's one in malibu too.
There's another one, I can'tremember where it is.

Speaker 1 (01:09:37):
It's like up north I mean, I have two dogs so I go to
a lot of hikes.

Speaker 2 (01:09:41):
They need exercise um next travel destination that's
on your list that you haven'tbeen to yet I really want to go
to greece.

Speaker 1 (01:09:49):
Yeah, I would love that.
I don't know why it's everybodygoes there, but the thing is
like since I been here, I wasable to travel everywhere.
I have been in 46 states 46?

Speaker 2 (01:10:03):
You've probably been to more states.
Why the states, though I'm likethere's only like five states
worth visiting, I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:10:10):
I know, I don't know, it was my thing, like coming
here, I just wanted to visit allof them.
I was like I'm completing allof them.
I was like I'm completing allof them and in my first year
here, I think I visited like 30in my first year wisconsin.
Uh, wait no that's what.

Speaker 2 (01:10:25):
That's where I'm from .
That's one of the last four youhaven't.

Speaker 1 (01:10:28):
No, I have maine, south dakota, north dakota,
wyoming and wisconsin, yeahcrazy yeah, because everything
else why the fuck did you go toidaho?
I don't know because.
So when I live in alabama Ikind of did everything around so
I went to kentucky.
What is in kentucky?
Nothing what is in mississippi,nothing.

(01:10:49):
But I went, I did everythingaround and later I went to
florida for a little bit.
So I did georgia, virginia,like all of those new york,
boston yeah, and when I camehere, kind of same thing I see,
I see so yeah, but in europe.
You see, I haven't beenanywhere in europe.
Portugal, spain and england isnot even part of europe.

Speaker 2 (01:11:09):
I've probably been to more in europe and you've been
to more in the united states.

Speaker 1 (01:11:12):
Yeah, but you see, that's why I want to go back and
do europe, but now I'm here, sowell, danielle, this has been
fun thank you we'll have to do around two sometime.

Speaker 2 (01:11:23):
All right, thanks for listening.