Tax Man's Wild Life, 4Kids, 3Wives, a Symbian, Orgy Dome, Open Marriages & Confessions of a Serial Marriage Maker ft. Andy & Soula - Ep.087 - Unattainable Podcast Show

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I feel like you were definitely conceived on the
floor.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
I mean, look, I'm trying to like, you were
definitely conceived in a doggystyle, I think.

Speaker 4 (00:06):
Right, I told you it's going to be the greatest
podcast you've ever had.
It's fantastic.
Can't wait to get demonetized.

Speaker 3 (00:14):
So demonetization Instagram oh no, not Instagram
YouTube.
And I just kind of said, okay,yeah, I did, I cheated, I fucked
her, so she goes on to sock mein the face many times.
I deserved it.

(00:38):
By the way, there's a nakedRussian model in my bathroom
taking a shower.
I'm like, well, you knowsomething, I'm just going to
jump in there and see whathappens.

Speaker 2 (00:44):
That's still a risky move, though it was a risky move
.

Speaker 3 (00:47):
And I get down on one knee and I ask her do you want
to marry me?
And she starts to fucking cry.
And literally, this is like twoand a half weeks after meeting
her.
Two and a half fucking weeksafter meeting her.

Speaker 4 (00:57):
For the record, you're 39 and she's 19 at this
point.
Yeah, yes, that's correct.
Yeah, 38, we're 19 years apart.

Speaker 3 (01:05):
Yeah, she's a 19 year old, I know.
I know 19, cradle robber, so Idon't know.
Frontal lobe is still entirelysoft there.

Speaker 2 (01:16):
You don't think there's anything wrong with it?

Speaker 1 (01:18):
No, the brain is not even fully developed until 25.
I love this shit, women lovethis shit, we love it.

Speaker 3 (01:24):
And, to be honest, like some secure masculinity.

Speaker 1 (01:31):
Orgasm is like super.
It's creation energy.
It's extremely powerful.
You're not doing it all thetime.
I mean, probably do it quiteoften, but even then it's very
it like it drives everything,especially for men.
It's what you think about themajority of the day, all the
time.
I don't think that peopleshould buy anyone anything until
, like you realize that they'renot just with you for that, yeah
, that's fine, I think, if yourlove language is giving give

(01:53):
those, give those gifts I loveto go.
That's what I'm asking I amattracted to anyone, um, that is
like a good person and who isambitious and who is confident
dude, breast milk is the bestfucking shit.

Speaker 3 (02:05):
It's like sugar water welcome to entertainer.

Speaker 4 (02:10):
We're glad to have you with us and hope you
continue to be a part of ourfamily for the foreseeable
future and if so, please hitthat subscribe button.
I am muhammad malai, here withmy incredible co-host, zach
evans, and our best friends andyrodriguez and sola was that
plural, best friends besties,we're all besties, oh my god,
could we do a little hand hug?

Speaker 1 (02:30):
do you know how to do a hand hug?

Speaker 4 (02:33):
yes, you know all right, um, why don't you go
ahead and introduce yourself?
How would you or what you do,and um where you're from?

Speaker 3 (02:43):
hmm, why?
Uh, born.
I was born and raised in LA,which is not common, and parents
are Mexican.
So let's see, I'm a tax man, Ido taxes in LA, I have CPA firms
in Canada, mexico, and I have atax software company in Mexico
with 55 employees.
So I'm more like 90 employeesand I, like I have four kids

(03:06):
with three different women andthey all love each other.
They're all great, they'regreat friends and the kids all
grow up together.
So it's pretty cool.
The kids love each other or thewomen, uh, the women, the women
like each other.
The kids love each other.
Okay, awesome.

Speaker 1 (03:21):
So my name is Sola Uh .
I've been in LA for five years,but I was born and raised in a
very small town in southern Ohioon a farm.
I've been print and commercialmodeling for 10 years now,
content creator for just as long, and I've got my hands in a
million other projects just howI like it.

Speaker 4 (03:38):
Awesome, how old are you?

Speaker 1 (03:39):
How old do you think I am?
Do you already know?

Speaker 4 (03:41):
It's irrelevant what I think it's for the audience I
like to people.
I like people I guess I thinkyou're 27.

Speaker 1 (03:47):
I don't think so how old do you think I am?

Speaker 4 (03:51):
are you 27?

Speaker 1 (03:52):
no 18 24 shut the fuck up, we already have this.
Can I?
Can I pass on here?
Yeah, okay, cool we alreadyhave this conversation about how
men lie, and intentionally getlower.

Speaker 3 (04:02):
Men, always keep it real with me.

Speaker 2 (04:03):
I'm a bro, always lie down, I'm one of the guys, that
condition, that way so you youcan't guess, okay, you either
have to guess really high, andit's like a joke right or if it
is really low, like, oh, like,I'm so such a nice person right,
but if you try to guess rightand you get it wrong, then
you're fucked right.
So, like I mean, I do it all.

Speaker 1 (04:21):
I think you're fucked with the wrong woman.

Speaker 3 (04:23):
I actually have guessed correctly with women
many times and they get insulted.
Yeah, oh.
Yeah, it's like oh hey, you're28.
Oh my God, Like you think Ilook like you, look like dude.
Yeah, I'm sorry, that's myguess.
How old are you 28.
?

Speaker 2 (04:45):
I'm like well, well then, I guess correctly, you
know, yeah, yeah, but you like,you have to understand, like too
, like as guys we just keepgoing up and to the right as
long as you're like rich andfunny, like you're good, but
then girls it's like yeah,there's certain age.

Speaker 3 (04:54):
You just kind of yeah , yeah yeah unless you like,
really take care of yourself,you know there are certain women
that look, not actually, youactually have all the other
girls, yeah you actually have tohave sustenance.

Speaker 1 (05:02):
I have sustenance.
I'm 35, by the way what really?

Speaker 2 (05:07):
yeah, is that crazy.
No, way I'm actually like likeI usually pretend to be
surprised.
I'm like yeah, but I'm actuallysurprised.
Yeah, you look good, thank youyeah, nice.

Speaker 4 (05:16):
Um, okay, we'll just get right into it.
Uh, what made you?
Uh, do taxes or getting to do?

Speaker 3 (05:23):
taxes.
I got into it.
Well, so my dad came in 1978 tothe United States as an
immigrant and he used to work ata bank.
So, you know, he's good withnumbers.
So he figured I'm going to begood at taxes.
So he came to a lot of taxoffices and he's still Los
Angeles and he just kind of, youknow, back in the days he used
to knock on doors hey, can youhire me?
I'm good with numbers.

(05:43):
So some guy ended up hiring him.
That's a tax guy, he did taxes.
So that's how he got into theindustry.
And after my dad did that, Iended up.
You know, I grew up in a taxoffice.
Actually, I have a good story.
I was conceived in a tax office.
My mom and dad were friends andone night, you know, I got it
hot and heavy at the office andboom, I don't know if it was on

(06:06):
the desk or on the floor, I haveno idea, but I was conceived in
a tax office and from thatpoint forward I basically was
raised in a tax family.
Taxes was just kind of a taxseason was kind of a thing, off
season was kind of a thing, andwe all just like, I remember, um
, I remember, uh, back we usedto use carbon paper before
copiers by the way, I'm 44.

(06:28):
So it was way before you knowcopiers.
So we'd put them between pagesand we'd have to put everything
between pages and we're like sixyears old and our fingers would
get all black and remember theblackness.
That was one of the things thatreally sticks in my head.
And we used to put stamps onenvelopes and my dad would give
us like a quarter so we can goto the store and we can play

(06:50):
video games or buy something.
So I grew up in a tax familyand then eventually, you know
you try a bunch of differentthings and you know I tried
different businesses, but thenyou just kind of like got sucked
back into the tax businessbecause it's something we know
and we're good at.

Speaker 1 (07:10):
So I've been a tax man for the next last 22 years.

Speaker 3 (07:11):
Nice, awesome I feel like you were definitely
conceived on the floor.

Speaker 2 (07:13):
I mean, look, I'm trying to like you were
definitely conceiving a doggystyle.
I think, right, I mean doggystyle, I don't look.

Speaker 3 (07:18):
You know, my mom used to tell me that the dirty that
my dad used to he's like apre-comer, you know like he
would like like two seconds onepump chump yeah, so he couldn't
hold it in so I'm like imaginingyour mom had that.

Speaker 1 (07:29):
What?

Speaker 2 (07:30):
he, she probably has.

Speaker 1 (07:32):
No, but you don't seem like a pre-cum baby.

Speaker 2 (07:34):
You seem like a normal cum baby.
No, no, no, top of the ballsacks I.

Speaker 3 (07:38):
I think I think my dad came way too quick in some
probably missionary position,because you know, back then they
were very, very, very creativeyeah yeah missionary and my mom
would be like that's it that'sit so that's what I'm thinking.
Yeah, uh, huh, okay so.

Speaker 4 (07:58):
I told you it's gonna be the greatest podcast you've
ever had.
It's fantastic.
Can't wait to get demonetizedso demonetization instagram?

Speaker 3 (08:07):
oh no, not instagram.
Youtube everywhere.

Speaker 4 (08:10):
Um, all right, so you mentioned that you have three
wives and four kids.
That's correct.
Let's, let's, let's go over thetimeline of how old you were,
the first marriage, and then thesecond one, and then the third
one.
What happened?
Why did you get divorced?
And just kind of like, give usthe rundown oh man, we're going
deep, okay.

Speaker 3 (08:29):
So, uh, I was 22 23 actually I was 21 when I first
met my 19 year old wife and youknow we were young and stupid
and it was just fun times.
I actually met her salsadancing.
You know she'd be aprofessional salsa dancer.
So, yeah, I, I actually wassitting next to a guy, I grabbed
her hand and I just pulled heraway.
I was like this guy I pulledher, started dancing, like no,

(08:52):
give it right.
And she liked that.
She liked the, theassertiveness, the confidence.
So bring her with me.
Like a year and a half later, weboth kind of dated people in
between we, we, we go up to veand I was like fuck it, I mean,
like you're at my house all thefucking time, let's just get
married, oh my God.
So we literally got married inVegas, in the LeWai Chapel, you

(09:13):
know where, like Britney Spearsgot married Same place.
We just got married.
I was like fuck it, let's justget married.
Back then we were like kind oflike a big deal, like okay,
we'll get married, we'll getmarried, so our parents don't
trip out, uh and um, there wasuh.
And then we came back and wedidn't tell her parents that we
got married.

(09:33):
So we ended up doing a weddingsix months later, a fake wedding
.
It was just a show um, I'mcomfortable saying that now
because her mom passed awayrecently so she wouldn't like
fucking kill her.
But we had this fake weddingsix months later, beautiful
white clown, and that was me at23.

(09:54):
We were married for eight yearsand for those eight years, yeah
, I wasn't very faithful.

Speaker 2 (10:01):
During those eight years, Was it like a polyamorous
relationship?
No, not at all.
Very monogamous, veryconservative, very traditional
during those eight years.
Was it like a polyamorousrelationship?
No, not at all.
Very monogamous, veryconservative, very traditional.

Speaker 3 (10:08):
I see, I see.

Speaker 2 (10:09):
On her end and then on your end.

Speaker 3 (10:11):
Well, I was, I think I was, I was very I was loyal
for about three or four yearsand then after that, I was just
like feeling that I need freedom, I need something to like break
out and do something.
So after like four years, Istarted, you know, cheating and
the cheating really was whatended the relationship, you know

(10:32):
she that makes sense it was onenight and I had been cheating
for like three years, so it wasone night.
She goes through my coat pocketof one of my jackets and she
finds a hotel receipt.

Speaker 2 (10:43):
Rookie mistake, Andy.
Oh, fuck yeah, rookie I wasyoung.

Speaker 3 (10:49):
And then she looks at the address and she Googles it,
looks it up and she sees thatthe address is next to the job
of a girl that I was talking to,that she fucking hated, and
she's like you fucked, what'sher name?

Speaker 1 (11:03):
And I'm like how her name, and you know, at that and
at that point.

Speaker 3 (11:08):
I was just kind of tired of lying, because I hate
lying, I really do, uh and Ijust kind of said, okay, yeah, I
did, I cheated, I fucked her.
So she goes on to uh sock me inthe face many times.
I deserved it, by the way.

Speaker 1 (11:26):
Was she Latina?

Speaker 3 (11:28):
Of course, Latina wife Sock me in the face,
kicking me, beating the shit outof me, kicking me out of the
house.
I ended up sleeping on thefloor outside the door of a
house like right there, Iliterally slept on the floor
outside the door in the open air.
So, yeah, that was the end ofthat relationship, was there?

Speaker 1 (11:50):
anything that you think like could have been done
differently within therelationship that could have
kept you interested or excitedin a monogamous setting.

Speaker 3 (11:58):
The problem was that I just didn't know who I was at
the time.

Speaker 1 (12:01):
Right, how old were you?

Speaker 3 (12:03):
At that time I was 20 .
Hold on.

Speaker 1 (12:07):
Let me think 29, when , and how old were you when you
got married?
23 yeah, so you got married andyour brain wasn't even one.

Speaker 4 (12:13):
I thought huh did you meet her at 21.

Speaker 3 (12:16):
I made it at 21 and make got married 23, 23, so um
oh damn.

Speaker 2 (12:20):
so you were with one girl well really, but so you're
like 30s.

Speaker 3 (12:24):
Yeah, seven years, seven and a half years, I was
with her Crazy.

Speaker 4 (12:28):
So you only had the one kid at that point.

Speaker 3 (12:30):
That's correct.
And, by the way, before thatmoment I said I'm never going to
be a dad Because I had prettyshitty parents growing up, right
, a lot of abuse, and I alwayshad told everyone I'm never
gonna have kids.
So, um, and then she, she kindof like, lied about the days,
like, oh, like you know, becauseI would always do this, this
calendar thing, you know, comeinside her, you know not during

(12:51):
her ovulation, and of course,the day like, she's like oh,
what day is it?
You know, you're like fucking,and she's like what is it?
Oh, it's okay, it's okay, it'slike day six, okay, cool, you
know.
So you come and you're, andthen later on she's like, oh
shit, it's day 12.
And you're like fuck, I was likeyou got after five years of

(13:11):
being with her, like that wasthe first mistake ever.

Speaker 4 (13:14):
Yeah, and we had fucked like a thousand, two
thousand times, right so whenyou're getting a divorce, your
child is three years old at thatpoint.

Speaker 3 (13:21):
No, no she, the baby, was a year, uh, year and a half
.

Speaker 4 (13:25):
Oh right, because of that right okay, so so a year
and a half at that point andyou're getting a divorce.
She wants a divorce yes andbecause you cheated.
But then did you?
Did you then confess to all thecheatings prior to the one that
she found out about?
Or well, I didn't have to.
She uh, ended up like sixmonths after we broke up she
went through my phone and shefound a bunch or well, I didn't
have to.

Speaker 3 (13:43):
She uh ended up like six months after we broke up she
went through my phone and shefound a bunch of messages from
an old phone not the new phone,an old phone that I had left,
and she read the messages so sheknew.
There was just not one that onetime.
It was many times how manytimes oh, bro, uh, I don't know
30, 30, 40 maybe Different women, not times, but women.

Speaker 4 (14:05):
Okay, what did she say?

Speaker 3 (14:07):
I'm just you're fucking pathetic and disgusting.
You're so disgusting.

Speaker 1 (14:12):
Rightfully so.
Yeah, she's not wrong, youcould have just left.

Speaker 3 (14:16):
She was definitely right yeah.

Speaker 4 (14:17):
Okay, so then, child year and a half, ex-wife of
eight years, and the nextrelationship comes up when so I
was single for like three years,and then the russian wife comes

(14:37):
into into picture, right so howdid that come about?

Speaker 3 (14:41):
oh, that, this is this was this is this was fun so
this is a good story, by theway pay attention.
So, uh, 2015 comes around andyou know I'm living my best life
, having a bunch of funtraveling the world, and, um,
you know, I used to be a couchsurfer, so the couch surfing
world I don't know if you guysknow about couch surfing
basically it's like this appwhere people from around the

(15:03):
world get to sleep in your house.
I had these two russian girlsthat needed a place to sleep, so
they came and slept and theywere actually coming from
another couchsurfers housebecause he was really creepy.
So they stayed at my house andyou know, I was like going out
four times, five times a week.
And, um, they came over andthey're like I need to play
sleep.
Like, go, go sleep in my extraroom, because I had a couple
extra rooms back then um, andthen during that that's when I

(15:27):
first met her and then over thenext three days, I took them to
go see the hollywood sign.
We go to getty center.
And then, after day three orfour, I told her oh, by the way,
I'm going to vegas on a partybus.
Do you want to come?
He's like no, I'm sorry, I havea.
I have a flight back to newyork.
I'm like, like I said fuck yourflight, I'll change the flight
to tuesday.
You're going, you're going tovegas and we're going to take

(15:48):
off.
And she was like, okay, youknow, women love when you ever
say no, you're not going to dosomething, it's true.
And then, right, right, you'renot do something, I'm going to
pay for the change and you'regoing to come with me like, so I
did that.
We go, we do this party bus with, you know, a bunch of my
friends, like 40 of us, in aparty bus.

(16:09):
We get fucking slammed drunkand we're in vegas and you know,
we're all fucked up.
So we get into the room andshe's like I'm gonna go take a
shower.
So she goes and take a showerand she's showering and I'm
thinking to myself there's anaked Russian model in my
bathroom taking a shower.

(16:30):
I'm like, well, you knowsomething, I'm just going to
jump in there and see whathappens.
Yeah, I'm going to jump naked.
I took off my clothes, jumpedin and she's like showering.
She turns around and she's likethis short mexican dude
standing behind her with hisdick, like this right, and and
you know what she did.
She's like fuck it, I'm invegas, were there?

Speaker 1 (16:52):
any signs before this moment whatever were there any
signs before this moment?

Speaker 3 (16:56):
I mean she would look like because, you know, during
the party bus, like you know, Iwould dance and you know and she
would just look at me going youknow, rush that Russian.
Look on them.
You know, you know.
So I was like I was pretty.
I mean the fact that she let me.

Speaker 4 (17:10):
Probably accumulated attraction over time.

Speaker 2 (17:12):
Right, right, that's still a risky move, though it
was a risky move.
Yeah, that's a lot.

Speaker 3 (17:16):
Because she.
But here's the thing she let mebook a room in Vegas with me,
and her Exactly.

Speaker 1 (17:23):
Oh, okay, yeah, so.

Speaker 3 (17:24):
I'm saying so I figured I it's probably going to
work, Right.
If not, she'll cause you likeget the fuck out, like I was,
like maybe she'll probably sayget the fuck out, right, right,
then you know so worst casescenario get the fuck out to

(17:47):
prison for 10 years for sexualassault.
Worst case, but hey, best case,I hook up with her, but it
worked out like it, fuckingworked out.
So, um, uh, we go at it.
It was the best fuck, three,four fucking days of ever.
And then she flies back to newyork and I'm like I'm gonna come
to new york, I'm gonna comevisit you, and she's like, yeah,
right, you know.
And whenever a girl says likeyeah right, kind of like she's a

(18:07):
little sassy, she's kind oflike kind of like calls you on
your shit, you're like yeahright, kind of like oh, are you
telling me you don't?
You don't think I'm gonna cometo New York next week?

Speaker 1 (18:17):
she knows what she was saying.

Speaker 3 (18:18):
Yeah, I go to New York with a beautiful eight days
, fucking amazing eight days.
On day five or six we're at awe, you know we kind of, because
we're staying with some friends, we kind of got a hotel.
And she tells me andy, I need,I need to confess something.
I have a boyfriend and we'reprobably going to get married.
Because I need a green card,because I'm here illegally, and

(18:42):
I'm like, fuck, like well, I'mgoing to have to like not look,
we're not going to hang out, Ican't see you because I'm going
to get married.
And I told her fuck it, you'regoing to marry me, I'm going to
fly you to LA.
Fuck that guy I'll give you.
I'm going to give you yourimmigration papers, I'm going to

(19:02):
give you citizenship.
And she said, yeah, man, Iprefer you.
So I fly back to LA.
I plan the whole shit out.
I got to give her props becauseshe actually put her shit in
storage and actually trusted meto fly to LA.
That is a lot of.
You know what I'm saying.
And now, knowing her, now I'mlike, yeah, that took a lot,

(19:23):
that took a lot.
That was a lot of like that.
You know I'm saying.
And and now, knowing her, nowI'm like, yeah, that that took a
lot.
That took a lot.
That's a lot of confidence.
So she flies to la, we, we, um,and then when she's there, like
literally, like the second day,we, we could do, we walk up to
hollywood sign and she finds abox right under the sun with her
name on it.

Speaker 1 (19:39):
Oh, what could it be?

Speaker 3 (19:40):
what could it be?
Oh my god that's cute yeah, andit's funny so so I recruited my
friends.
So she opens the box andthere's a ring inside of it.
And then they press play, theystart playing a song.

Speaker 1 (19:55):
Our song.
What's the song Sing?

Speaker 3 (19:57):
it, it's a.

Speaker 1 (19:58):
Sing it.

Speaker 3 (19:59):
Don't tell us Obsession by Aventura.
It's Obsession by Aventura,it's a fucked up song, basically
it talks about like boyfriend,girlfriend that's obsessed with
each other and it's very toxic.

Speaker 1 (20:09):
I remember Obsession by Aventura it's a fucked up
song.

Speaker 3 (20:12):
But they start playing that song and then all
my friends get around and starttaking pictures and videos and I
get down on one knee and I askher do you want to marry me?
And she starts to fucking cryand literally, and she starts to
fucking cry.
And literally this is like twoand a half weeks after meeting
her, Two and a half fuckingweeks after meeting her.
So I get down on my knee I'mlike do you wanna?
She's?

Speaker 1 (20:30):
a liar.

Speaker 3 (20:30):
And she starts to cry .
Three days later we go to thecourthouse, we get fucking
married and we were together forabout three years.
We weren't that compatible, youknow.

Speaker 2 (20:42):
Uh, because you know I'm fucking crazy and she's very
normal, but at the two week anda half point when you like
wanted to marry her, like inyour mind was like I'm helping
her out for like immigrationstatus, but I also kind of like
her.
Or were you like your brain waslike I actually want to marry
this girl.
You know.

Speaker 3 (20:59):
No, to me it was more like I'm going to help her and
at the time this will be a coolfucking story for the story of
my life.
Oh, okay, she's gorgeous, fun,amazing, great conversation.
She was amazing.
So I was like you know, this isjust going to be great, kind of
like oh, remember that one timeI got married, you know I was
like so I'm like you're going tojust love this story.

(21:25):
But then y'all had lot of kid.
Well, about a year and a halfinto the marriage, you know, we
already knew we weren't going tobe together.

Speaker 2 (21:28):
Oh, but this marriage wasn't like.
You were like I'm in love withthis girl we were.
We were madly in love with eachother but you like thought it
was gonna last forever and Ididn't.
She did.

Speaker 3 (21:35):
Okay, I see but about a year and a half in, she's
like, you know, there's thislike kind of russian culture,
like if you're like a certainage and you're not a baby,
you're like you're like old andfucked up.
So, um, she was, how old wasshe?
24, 27?
She was 27, so I think she was27 nice so she was 27.
I'm like I'm old, I'm russian, Ineed a baby, so I need to get

(21:59):
pregnant and I want a baby rightnow.
And I said, said, and I wasthinking to myself it kind of
kind of fucking cool to have aRussian baby.
You know, like Russian babiessounds kind of cool, right, and
I was like fuck it.
So this is actually.
This is the only child toactually try to make.
All the other ones were kind oflike oopsies, you know.
But this one's actually like.
You know, it's like, and youknow, like we would fuck and she

(22:22):
would keep her legs up likeonce a month.
She thought you could only getpregnant once a month.
So I don't believe that bullshit, I swear to god, yeah, yeah
fuck science right uh, so um soand, and it took us three months
, so you know, on the thirdmonth, boom, she gets pregnant
and now we have a beautifulsix-year-old russian baby.

Speaker 4 (22:41):
Fucking smart as shit and that was my second one and
then.
So when you got married, aftertwo and a half weeks Of meeting
her, what did your ex-wife say?

Speaker 3 (22:51):
Oh she was.
Are you fucking stupid?
How am I gonna let my otherdaughter Be around that bitch?
Fuck her Like it was.
Mayhem, it was fucking, it wasbad.
I had a girlfriend before her.
She was balling Actually twogirlfriends and my ex-wife was
like are you stupid?
Mayhem, it was fucking, it wasbad.
I had a.
I had a girlfriend before her.
She was bawling actually twogirlfriends, um, and my ex-wife
were like are you stupid?
I mean, everyone's justfreaking the fuck out like

(23:12):
freaking crying ball.
It was and I and I'm just likefuck at the time, you have three
sisters.

Speaker 4 (23:19):
Yeah, where are your this?
Where are your sisters in allthis?
What are they saying?

Speaker 3 (23:23):
you know, uh, my sisters were surprisingly very
supportive.
They kind of know the way thatI operate and they're like
you're going to marry some girlafter two and a half weeks we're
going to support you.
They've actually been.
They're a little fucking nutstoo right, my whole family's a
little fucking nuts.
So they were like, okay, you'regoing to marry someone.
And they all showed up to thecourthouse, they all got dressed

(23:44):
up and you know it was kind ofa night, a very beautiful, nice,
you know courthouse wedding soso your second divorce.

Speaker 4 (23:51):
You're now 35 yeah yeah, um, you have a
six-year-old and another yearand a half see how old was hazel
.

Speaker 3 (23:59):
No, hazel was like I don't't know, eight, eight, nine
, nine, nine, nine.
There's a baby one year old.

Speaker 4 (24:06):
Oh, one year, Okay, and then two divorces, 35.
And then what?

Speaker 2 (24:12):
happens.
Wait, wait.
But this second divorce, was itkind of like, yeah, we kind of
did it for like the immigration,we do love each other, but like
it's it's time.
Or was it like she was likepissed at you for something?

Speaker 3 (24:31):
No, but like it's it's time, or was it like she
was like pissed at you forsomething?
No, she was mad.
Oh okay, because like literally, we get married and she moves
in and we're madly in love.
The sex was fucking amazing.
Fuck, you don't have to cutthat out, but it was just
amazing sex.
We're like amazing, like yearof, just like you know, having
the most amazing time in theworld.
Um and no, no, we, we lovedeach other.
We genuinely, I genuinely lovedevery single wife.
It was amazing.
Love, gotcha, gotcha, gotcha.

Speaker 4 (24:51):
Yeah, so 35, two kids , what happens?

Speaker 3 (24:56):
Um 35, two kids, let's see, that was uh, six
years minus two was 38.
No, it's 38.
Okay, uh, 38, uh, I'm breaking.
You know we've already brokenup with the wifey and, um, I put
a ticket up for sale at forburning man by the way, I'll,
I'm a burner to the burners um,and I I remember telling all my

(25:20):
friends I'm only gonna sell thisto a really hot bitch a really
hot.

Speaker 4 (25:24):
How long after divorce is this?

Speaker 3 (25:27):
uh, we had already broken up like a year okay, it's
like a year.

Speaker 4 (25:30):
So a year later you're going to burn it burning
man, and I'm selling this extraticket and I had this ticket for
some other really beautifulmodel, but gee, bails.

Speaker 3 (25:39):
And then so I'm just, I'm whatever girl, I can sell
this.
I'm because back then burningman was very exclusive, not so
much anymore, um, and so you canjust pick and choose who you're
going to sell your ticket to.
So there was a profile onFacebook's like, oh, this is
really hot, bitch cool, I'mgonna sell it to her.
So she comes to my house and Isaw her.

(25:59):
I'm like, hey, how you doing,come on in, come on in and I
invite her in a food drinks.
Okay, I'm like, hey, if youneed a doing, come on in, come
on in and I invite her in fooddrinks.
Okay, I'm like, hey, if youneed a ride to Burning man, I
can take you.
Coincidentally, her friend fliesinto LA and gets deported, like
she gets pushed back.
So now she does no ride, nobike, no nothing.
So she calls me up and like,hey, andy, I'm going to go to
Burning man with you, all right,cool, cool.

(26:29):
So she's in my, in my rv, withlike uh, five other, uh,
russians, um, uh, three guys,two girls.
So, um, we're 13 hours and ofcourse, all the guys are all
over her because she's tall andbeautiful and gorgeous and, um,
I didn't get really to talk toher during the whole time, so
I'm like, maybe, maybe shedoesn't like me too much, so
we're up there one day and, forthe record, you're 39 and she's
19 at this point.

Speaker 4 (26:47):
Yeah, yes, that's correct uh, yeah, 38 we're 19
years apart right.

Speaker 3 (26:52):
Yeah, she's a 19 year old.
Damn I know.
I know 19 crater robber, so um,I know frontal lobe no, I, I
don't think you don't thinkthere's anything wrong with it?

Speaker 1 (27:04):
No, the brain is not even fully developed until 25.

Speaker 4 (27:07):
Oh, wait, wait, we're going to discuss this.

Speaker 2 (27:10):
I knew you would want to try it on.

Speaker 5 (27:12):
We got two cradle robbers up the top Guilty have
spoken.

Speaker 3 (27:17):
No, no, no, you don't do this.

Speaker 4 (27:19):
If it ain't true, you won't be developed, oh sorry.

Speaker 3 (27:22):
I didn't see, okay, continue, okay, all right,
continue.
So we go up to birdie man,we're there, we're partying or
like, and then there's literallyfive guys hovering and orbiting
this beautiful woman, thisbeautiful 19 year old lithuanian
woman, and, um, uh, you know, Ikind of got sick of it because,
like, I'm like I'm not going tocompete with this shit.

(27:42):
I'm like if you and there was,there was this one Israeli guy
that was just all over her andI'm just like, fuck that, I'm
going to leave.
I'm going to go hang out withmy friends.
And I'm like, hey, babe, I'mgoing to go take off.
I'm going to go hang out withmy friends, go have a good time
with the guy.
Right, and at this moment is themoment, don't leave me with
this guy.
And I was like, okay.
So I grabbed her by the handand just pull her and we just go

(28:08):
into a crowd and we disappear,we go to a different camp and of
course, you know, we pop Mollyand Ecstasy and Ketamine.
We're like having the mostamazing time.
Birdie man Day two, that'sgreat.
Day two, day two day two.
She tells me the most romanticthing a woman has ever told me

(28:32):
in the history of me, like it'sthe most amazing thing.
She says, andy, do you want togo to the orgy dome?
And I said, do you want to goto the orgy dome?
And I said, do you want to getmarried?
So we go, and we go to this uhchapel at bernie man, it's a

(28:58):
playa court, it's called playacourt, and we go and get married
like this, this kind ofspiritual wedding at Playa Court
, and there was this wholespeech La la, la la.
Our friends are there, we'regetting married.

Speaker 4 (29:10):
For the record, you just met this girl.

Speaker 3 (29:11):
It's not a legit marriage.
At that point it was about aweek, okay, about one week.
So we go get married and we'relike, you know, like oh my God,
and then of, and then of courseit was beautiful.
We go to orgy dome.
You know, it was beautiful andgreat.
I love orgy dome.
It's fun.
Um, orgies are fun too.
So uh yeah.

(29:32):
So we go back to um la, afterhaving the most amazing one week
of our lives, and, um, it getsa little weird because my
ex-wife second ex-wife getsreally jealous.
She tries to cock block and shetries to like, hey, no, no,
let's get back together.
And I tell her I'm like okay,fine.
So I ended up telling her likeI'm gonna give it this one more

(29:55):
try so while you're married tothe third one, wait, were you
like officially married?
spiritual, spiritual marriage,but that thing only lasted like
one week, like literally, likewe're like at each other's
throats, it's like fuck thatshit but she ends up going back
to Thailand because she wasstudying to be a chef and then

(30:16):
during that time she like getstogether with a guy.
They're in Bangkok and you knowthey have a full relationship.
We went together and I'm justlike fuck, I fucked up.
But if I get one moreopportunity I'm not gonna fuck
this up ever again.
So I started sending her giftsand she had tuition for, like,

(30:38):
her chef school, so I paid forher tuition.
I'm texting her everyday.
I mean I was the biggestfucking cock block.
I was like the worst.
I'm like the every day.
I mean I was the biggestfucking cock block.
I was like the worst.
I'm like the worst fuckingperson.
When I want something and fuckwhoever that person is with,
like I want her you're dating.
I don't give a fuck, you'regonna be mine.
So I definitely just torpedoedthat fucking relationship like

(31:03):
fucking destroyed homewrecker.

Speaker 1 (31:04):
I'm Homewrecker.
I'm a homewrecker.
Yeah, wow, a thousand percent,sheesh.

Speaker 3 (31:07):
But they weren't going to last.
Anyways, you know you did her afavor, if anything.

Speaker 2 (31:11):
I did her a favor.

Speaker 3 (31:11):
Delusional.
They weren't going to lastanyways, it's just you know she
would text me like I don't knowabout this guy.
You know she loves driven,ambitious men, and he wasn't it
so you know what?
I did.
You know what I did right, youdrove that ambition.

Speaker 1 (31:29):
No, I don't no, no.

Speaker 3 (31:34):
So I hired a couple's counselor, a therapist, for her
to figure out her situationhere.
I'll pay for it Gross.
I didn't influence her, Ididn't influence her.
I pay for it Gross.
I didn't influence her, Ididn't influence her, I paid for
it.
And they had two or threemonths of therapy and she
figured out like I can't be thisguy.

Speaker 2 (31:53):
Wait, I don't get why that's a bad thing.
It's not, or you're saying oh,you hired them like a therapist.

Speaker 1 (31:58):
No, I think it's like he was so confident that they
were not going to work out.

Speaker 3 (32:02):
He was like here you can try the therapist.
Yeah, so what therapy does?
But you knew the therapist ornot?

Speaker 2 (32:08):
Yes, or were you kind of like?

Speaker 3 (32:09):
yes, no, no, no, I did not influence that, she's
like you know, but I knew theywere going to break up and it's
kind of like, okay, are you guysgoing, they break up and I fly
her to la, like after shefinished school, and she moves

(32:31):
in with me.
Uh-huh, and that was the startof our marriage, I guess how
many years now?
Let's see, uh, since that pointabout four and a half years
okay, four and a half years.

Speaker 4 (32:44):
You guys are together .
Obviously, I know some things,but I'll let you kind of go
through the four and a halfyears of what happened.

Speaker 3 (32:51):
There's been a lot of ups and downs.
We actually had two children.
She hates condoms so I'mconstantly coming inside her.
She loves when I come insideher.

Speaker 4 (33:00):
She hates condoms, but also.

Speaker 3 (33:02):
But also I can't pull out.
My pull out game Is really bad.
I like my pull out game.

Speaker 6 (33:08):
So we have Two more kids, so I have four kids now.

Speaker 3 (33:11):
By the way, keep them calm.
I have four kids.
Kids does Make things Way morecomplicated, so so we do have An
open marriage, we do have Fromthe start?
Yeah, from the start, becausewhat?

Speaker 4 (33:29):
happened.
You have an open marriagebecause she's the way she is.

Speaker 3 (33:34):
I'm the way I am.
The reason I chose her wasbecause she was kind of okay
with that lifestyle.
So you know, thoserelationships do have a lot of
challenges.

Speaker 2 (33:46):
Well, was it an open relationship, as like, you
wanted to be open and she waslike I'll do it for you?
Or was she also, like, pumpedabout being open?
You know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (33:56):
Good question.
I think she was in between, shewasn't pumped, but she was.

Speaker 3 (33:56):
She also like pumped about being open.
You know what I mean?
Good question, I think she wasin between, so she wasn't pumped
, but she wasn't like I can say.
She's kind of like okay, cool,I get to fuck around too.

Speaker 4 (34:02):
Gotcha, gotcha, gotcha okay, and so now you have
four kids, and you said thatall the wives are besties or
like they're friends, I'll getit wrong.

Speaker 3 (34:13):
They all have something in common yeah you
know what that is.

Speaker 4 (34:16):
They all hate you.

Speaker 3 (34:17):
They all, they all.
They don't hate me, they likeme.
They just, you know, it's justbetter not to be married to me.
They say you are the bestex-husband in the fucking world.
They say that all the fuckingtime, the fucking time, just you
don't want to be married to me,right?
You know you have to go to hisheartache.

(34:38):
And then you notice this periodlike, okay, ex-husband, as an
ex-husband, I'm a provider, I'malways there for them, you know,
as long as I'm not thatconsistent did you have any
post-nup or pre-nup with thefirst two?
I had a post-nup with thesecond and a post-nup with the
third okay, but none with thefirst.

Speaker 4 (34:53):
Well, I was kind of Right, you didn't know better.

Speaker 1 (34:56):
All those same broke bitch.
Yeah, you weren't 25 years oldyet.

Speaker 4 (35:00):
Yeah, I didn't have anything back then Right,
Obviously you've kind of goneover this whole cheating
situation that you had going onwith the first one.
Did you have any with thesecond one?

Speaker 3 (35:19):
So with the second one one, she knew we were open,
but she was always like I don'twant, I don't want this, I don't
want you to be open, I don'twant you to do shit, your shit.
And she would always tell melike.
And I was.
She would always tell me like.
I know you're fucking aroundand I would always say like yeah
okay, okay.
So there was kind of anunderstanding, but at the same
time she wasn't cool with it andher option was like break up or

(35:42):
put up with it.
But she was not happy about it.
But when we first met I hadtold her I'm a crazy guy, I want
an open relationship, and she'slike cool, whatever.
And in retrospect we had aconversation about this.
She's like you know, back thenI was just like a fun crazy
woman.
I mean, I just wanted a greencard, right.
I didn't expect to fall in lovewith you.

(36:02):
So she falls in love with me.
I'm still the same person shemarried, so you know that was
the problem.

Speaker 4 (36:12):
Yeah, you kind of went over like the things that
you have done, which whichobviously for most people those
are pretty wild things.
But again, and knowing you, Idon't want to go over this, but
tell us some of the wildestthing you've, you've done.

Speaker 3 (36:26):
Oh fuck you like fucking midgets, or what I mean.
If that's what you've done,yeah, oh oh, I got a story for
you guys.
Great story.
You're gonna love this storyfuck.

Speaker 1 (36:39):
Yeah, you're gonna love the story.

Speaker 3 (36:41):
So I have this um only fans model at the house and
, uh, I bring out a symbian.

Speaker 1 (36:47):
You know, you guys know what a symbian is no, it's
like a zach, does not zachwouldn't know what a symbian is?
Like a Like a vibrating saddle.

Speaker 3 (36:55):
It's like a saddle with a thing I feel like.

Speaker 2 (36:57):
Mo didn't know either , but he was like putting it on
me, so yeah, Zach definitelydoesn't know.

Speaker 3 (37:03):
So a symbiont is like this kind of horse thing you
straddle and you stand on it andit vibrates.
Oh, like a sex machine, it's asex machine, sex robot yeah,
yeah, robot, yeah yeah, so, uh,you know this, only fine girls
comes over the house like here,you put it out.
I'm being like kind of crazy,boom, like you want to write it,
and she's like very sassy going.

Speaker 6 (37:24):
I'll write it if you write it I'll write if you write
it, and I was like all right,I'll write it, just to prove to
you that I can write it.

Speaker 1 (37:38):
You know, don't challenge me, but did you write
it.

Speaker 3 (37:40):
I wrote it.

Speaker 1 (37:41):
Wait, but it has like a dick coming out, a dick
coming out.

Speaker 5 (37:44):
Inside you wrote it yes, yes, yes, yes yes, so
there's this thing, that like itjust vibrates like this and I
had to like lube my ass and Ihad to sit on it.

Speaker 1 (37:55):
I love this shit, women love this shit, we love it
and to be honest, like that'ssome secure masculinity right
there.
What the fuck?
What's wrong with that?

Speaker 2 (38:06):
You had a dick in your ass like a fake dick in
your asshole, and this thingvibrates like you would not
believe how big was the dick.
I're not that big?

Speaker 3 (38:13):
No, they're not that big, it wasn't huge.

Speaker 1 (38:15):
They're like that, okay.

Speaker 3 (38:16):
I'm not going to have a huge dick on my ass.
There's different connectorthings, though.

Speaker 2 (38:20):
I'm going to have a dick on my ass.
It's going to be a small dick.
If I find a pretty Asian guy, Imight hit that yeah, asian,
definitely Asian.

Speaker 1 (38:35):
This is legendary.

Speaker 3 (38:36):
So and you're like this and, to be honest, like it
wasn't.
You know, they always say likefind the, what do you call?

Speaker 1 (38:43):
it, prostate, find the G-spot, the prostate?
I don't think I have a prostateG-spot.

Speaker 3 (38:57):
I mean it felt good but it wasn't a big enough dick,
but I mean the vibration feltgood on my ass, you know it felt
good, but it wasn't likeamazing it wasn't enough to make
your dick hard no I got hardbecause they were sucking my
dick while I was doing it I toldthem like suck my dick right so
I can like enjoy this.
That's really hot.
So they're like when I'm likeright, and I'm just like okay,

(39:18):
so I can't concentrate, like adick on my ass and they're
sucking my dick.
And there was a second girl, bythe way, the same girl.
She was there too and and she's, like you know, kissing me and
touching me and she's like, ah,and I'm just like that's nice,
oh yeah, good for you very yeah.
So, um, I don't think I'm gaybecause, like you know, I've had
a dick on my ass and it's likenot, it wasn't pleasurable for

(39:40):
you having something inside yourass doesn't make you gay.
It's whether or not you want tohave sex with dudes and enjoy
it and get off on that yeah, Idon't want us to have sex with
dudes, okay, no, but it's alittle bit gay, maybe a little
bit everybody is a little bitgay.

Speaker 1 (39:54):
I'm not.

Speaker 2 (39:54):
Everybody is a little bit I'm 100, trust me, 100, 100
, straight what makes?

Speaker 4 (40:01):
what makes you say that everybody's a little bit
gay?

Speaker 1 (40:04):
um, like in some way shape or form.
I think that everyone's alittle bit gay you can you can
be like, uh, you can recognizelike an attractive man so that
to you is the definition ofbeing gay.
No, I think it's being a littlebit gay.

Speaker 4 (40:17):
Which would be the definition of being gay.

Speaker 1 (40:19):
Yeah, okay, Whenever you watch porn you like watching
dudes fuck women.

Speaker 2 (40:24):
She has a good point actually.

Speaker 4 (40:27):
The point would be for you so are you a?
Little bit gay.

Speaker 1 (40:29):
Guys, be secure in your masculinity.
I'm telling you, women lovewhenever men own that.

Speaker 4 (40:35):
I'm not saying whether it is or isn't.
This is the audience problem.

Speaker 3 (40:40):
I don't care.
When you're watching porn,you're watching a dick.
She is right.

Speaker 2 (40:44):
You're watching a dick when you watch porn and,
honestly, I watch more straight.
Not that I watch porn, but if Idid, I'd watch more.
I don't watch porn.
I don't very often, but I dosometimes.

Speaker 4 (40:57):
Why don't you watch?

Speaker 1 (40:57):
porn.
I don't know.
I'm very intentional whenever Iflick the beam and I'm like
literally thinking about likewhat it would feel like to like
reach my like greatest goals andlike have the life of my dreams
.
And that's what I'm likemasturbating to.

Speaker 2 (41:15):
That's like there's this dude on tiktok.
He would only jerk off toandrew tate videos and he got
shut up successful like he like,like got like a million dollars
and like signed up I think it'sa way to like program your
subconscious.

Speaker 1 (41:28):
It's possible yeah I think so that's what I'm doing
but how does I'm?
Pairing with a really intenseorgasm energy uh-huh, yeah, yeah
, and that actually okay.

Speaker 4 (41:36):
Explain how that works.
So you're aroused, huh, whathappened Well.
I'm trying to figure out.

Speaker 1 (41:44):
My success is turning me on.

Speaker 4 (41:46):
So what is it that you think about?

Speaker 1 (41:48):
I think about what my success feels like.
So I'm visualizing the life ofmy dreams and I'm imagining what
that feels like, and then I'mclimaxing to that what is the
life of your dream?
Um, uh, just being like superfinancially free and, um, like
owning land and working on abunch of projects.
I mean, there's like, really,there's a lot of specifics to it

(42:10):
and you think about all thosespecifics yeah, it depends each
time.
It also depends like how theday was or like what I'm doing.

Speaker 2 (42:16):
But yeah, interesting .

Speaker 1 (42:18):
Yeah, that's pretty much it yeah when.

Speaker 2 (42:21):
Mo hooks up with girls he just thinks about like
the hot girl, like a caveman,like how?

Speaker 1 (42:25):
the caveman used to fuck Like yeah, yeah, yeah, he's
not as evolved as our brains.
You should try it with yourwife, though.
Try what Like thinking about,like maybe a goal that you have
together, and like thinkingabout that whenever you're about
to get off.

Speaker 3 (42:40):
And you should come inside her.

Speaker 1 (42:41):
And the eye Even better, just don't think about a
baby, because that'll probablyhappen.
I think we're like making himlike.

Speaker 3 (42:51):
We're making you blush brother.
You're like turning red.

Speaker 4 (42:54):
It's not about me.
It's about the fact that Ican't clip these clips.

Speaker 3 (42:58):
No, no, no, You're going to play this whole thing.
You can't bleep that.

Speaker 4 (43:01):
No, no, I know, but I can't clip it Because you're
mouth farting into the mic.

Speaker 1 (43:06):
So, I can't use it.
Of course you can use it.

Speaker 3 (43:10):
Onward Less mouth farting on the race.

Speaker 4 (43:12):
well, it was more of a squirt inside of his wife's
okay, so so, um, so, so what,but but I have no problem having
an orgasm, so why would I thinkabout?

Speaker 1 (43:29):
well, it's like the intention and what you're
pairing that with.
It's literally like programmingyour subconscious.
Have you heard of the like thered car theory?
What's the red car theory?
It's like the intention andwhat you're pairing that with
it's literally reprogrammingyour subconscious.
Have you heard of the red cartheory?

Speaker 4 (43:39):
What's the red car theory?

Speaker 1 (43:40):
It's like you don't see the car that you're driving
until you buy it.
So I bought a Jeep.
Now I see a silver Jeepeverywhere.
So this works with everything,with what you tell yourself.
That's like affirmations are sopowerful.
Certain journaling techniquesare super powerful.
Um, orgasm is like super.
It's creation energy.
It's extremely powerful.

(44:01):
You're not doing it all thetime.
I mean, probably do it quiteoften, but even then it's very
it like it drives everything,especially for men.
It's what you think about themajority of the day, all the
time.
So whenever you're pairing like, oh, I'm visualizing and
feeling what my success would belike, like like my podcast
getting crazy successful, andI'm pairing that with my nut.

Speaker 3 (44:21):
Yeah, you're fucking your passion and thinking about
how many followers you're goingto get after this podcast.
100,000 followers, right, comeon.

Speaker 1 (44:32):
What better thing to get off to Than yourself and
your success?

Speaker 2 (44:36):
So you anchor this like crazy emotion, which is
like one of the highestemotional states you can put
yourself into, and anchoringthat with success.

Speaker 1 (44:46):
And so now, throughout your day, your
subconscious is going to berunning on the program that
affirms that.
So your subconscious is makingmost of your decisions for you.
I have like this analogy that Iuse with a nail behind a tire,
right.
So let's say, you're the typeof person that's like, oh, I
have such a terrible life, mylife sucks, whatever.
Whatever, your brain isprobably going to bypass, like

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you take in so much informationby what you're looking at, and
so your subconscious probablyregistered that there's a nail
right next to your tire.
But because it wants to affirm Ilive a shitty life, it knows
that if you hit the tire, it'sgoing to affirm that you have a
shitty life.
So you're going to get in yourcar and you're going to drive
over the tire.
But now, let's say, you'retelling yourself all the time oh
, I have such an amazing life,I'm such a smart person, I'm on
top of it, life is so good, I'mso grateful.

(45:27):
Oh, there's a nail in my of me.
Not hitting the nail affirms mylife is great, my life's
amazing.

Speaker 4 (45:37):
Same, same idea okay, and and how have you proven
this theory exactly?

Speaker 1 (45:45):
um, I mean, uh, I I could technically prove it
through, like my scripting andmy journaling.
Um, everything that I wroteabout, like five years ago,
whenever I was doing it, hascome true in terms of the amount
of money that I make, like mycareer, everything, and, and
through neuroscience, likeactually she has the best tax
man in the world.

Speaker 3 (46:02):
Just give me, just telling you, great accountant by
the way.

Speaker 4 (46:05):
That is what she was uh thinking about when she was
masturbating.
Three years.

Speaker 3 (46:08):
That's right.
I'm gonna have the best accountin the world, exactly 401k by
the way, you way, you know, zachhas the best account in the
world too you should probablymasturbate to your best account
in the world.

Speaker 1 (46:21):
Andy, why are you everyone's accountant?
Oh wait, that's right, I doyour taxes.

Speaker 3 (46:25):
I do your taxes.
I do your taxes.
Technically, we should allmasturbate to your taxes
technically.

Speaker 4 (46:29):
I started it.
You started what I started.
I was like hey, andy, taxes.
And then I told everybody I waslike Andy is amazing.

Speaker 3 (46:36):
That is true.
You should, you know.

Speaker 4 (46:38):
Let.

Speaker 2 (46:39):
Andy, do To use that Andy.

Speaker 4 (46:41):
Because Claudio Fucking pays taxes.
What the fuck Are you talkingabout?

Speaker 3 (46:46):
We love you, claudio Love you.

Speaker 4 (46:51):
Okay, I man this is.
This is interesting.

Speaker 3 (46:58):
I told you there's best fucking podcast you've ever
had.

Speaker 4 (47:02):
Yeah, it's, it's interesting because, like
obviously so okay, what's,what's your relationship?
Uh, history like oh, it's allover the place yeah, yeah, go
ahead men, women, every race,everything everywhere, so, so,
white, how many relationshipshave you had kids?

Speaker 1 (47:20):
um, let's see one shot I'm good I'd say like since
high school, like six or seven,six or seven and how long was
your longest relationship?
Like Like a year and a half,year and a half.

Speaker 4 (47:41):
And you're currently single Somewhat.

Speaker 1 (47:44):
Somewhat-ish Okay.

Speaker 4 (47:45):
And then.
So when you started datingduring high school, you were
saying that you don't think thatyour brain was fully developed.

Speaker 1 (47:58):
Hell no, and you think that your brain is Stupid.
People don't know they'restupid.
I thought that I knew what Iwas doing.
And I always heard oh, you'reso mature for your age and I was
.
I left home the day I turned 18.
Started building my life on myown, but even then, like no, no,
no, building my life on my own,um, but even then, like no, no.

(48:20):
Once I hit 25.
After that, it's like lifestarted to make so much more
sense, like making decisions waseasier.
Everything became easier okay.

Speaker 4 (48:26):
So if you could go back in time, what would you
change during your early teen orlate teens, early 20s?

Speaker 1 (48:36):
I don't think that I would change anything.

Speaker 4 (48:38):
Okay, yeah and that kind of proves my point with
regards to what I'm about to saysure people talk about how
their brain is not developed or,or more so, they talk about how
other people's brains are notdeveloped.
Right, the judgment based uponthe whole age limit and the age
gap is what you just said, whichis like oh, a 19 year old or an

(48:59):
18 year old or a 20 year old'sbrain is not developed.
Therefore, they should not beable to make a decision as as as
as important as being in arelationship with somebody who's
much older than them or beingmarried to somebody who's much
older than them sure the, theand, and.
The reason why that doesn't makeany sense is because of exactly

(49:19):
what you just said, which is,you wouldn't change anything
that you, that you did yeah, buthow many people do you know
that are still with their 19year old or 18 year old or
whatever like for?
Life.
I would say the statistics ofthat would be the same as the
people who are married tosomebody who they didn't have
much of a crazy age gap with.

Speaker 1 (49:42):
But at that age that were married, at that age,
regardless of what age you're in.

Speaker 4 (49:50):
I'm confused about the comparison that if you got
married what you just said 18 or19 to somebody who's much older
than you, that the statisticsof you getting divorced later on
is much higher than somebodywho would get married in their
mid 30s or late 20s.

Speaker 1 (50:06):
I don't know the statistics, but I'm willing to
bet that that's exactly what itwas.

Speaker 4 (50:08):
It's just an assumption, but it's just not
true, because the rate ofdivorce because if you look at
the statistics of it, they'renot really that different.
The statistics of divorce, whenyou look them up, they're
essentially the same thing,because it has nothing to do
with age.
It has everything to do withcompatibility and most of the
people who are not compatible,it doesn't come off based upon

(50:32):
how old they are, it just comesoff based upon the fact that
they don't know themselves.

Speaker 1 (50:36):
I can appreciate, like the compatibility aspect,
for sure, but I think that it'sdifficult to determine
compatibility when you literallyaren't even a developed, fully
developed person.
So how do you know what you'recompatible with?

Speaker 4 (50:47):
What is it that you define as fully developed?

Speaker 1 (50:50):
The brain is literally not like fully
developed until 25.
The regions that control, likerational decision making,
impulse, emotional intelligenceand maturity everything how does
that apply to real lifedecision making?
Um.
I think it applies in everyaspect to real life decision
making, as well as identityidentity meaning what?

Speaker 4 (51:09):
um somebody doesn't know themselves well enough 100,
because you, how could you?
well, um, it's all about yourupbringing, and if you make a
decision whether or not you'remarried to somebody or in a
relationship with somebody who'smuch older than you or closer
to age, the same mistakes wouldbe valid regardless.

(51:29):
If you're prone to picking outsomebody who's toxic, you will
pick that person regardless ofage, no-transcript, and that,
across the board, happens everysingle time, in every single
relationship you're going to bein, and most of the time, people
who don't grow end up beingstuck in the same mentality as

(51:53):
they get older, because theynever change.
And so the toxicity toxicitythat you carry with you at the
age of, you know, 18, 19, 20ends up being the same toxicity
that you have while you're inyour thirties, while you're in
your forties, so on and so forth.
Because, most people don'treally change, because they

(52:13):
don't want to Some people do,some people don't.
Most people don't really changebecause they don't want to.

Speaker 1 (52:16):
Some people do, some people don't, most people don't.
I agree.

Speaker 4 (52:17):
Yeah, so it really, and I, and the biggest problem
most of the time that comes upwith regards to age difference
and what people talk about agedifference, is manipulation,
because they try to compare thata 35, 40 year old has the, uh,
the, the, the, the intellectualability to try to make somebody

(52:39):
do something that they don'twant to do.

Speaker 1 (52:43):
Yeah, I totally disagree with that.
I think that, as an 18-year-old, you can totally know that
that's something that you wantto do.
I think that where the shiftcomes into play is as your brain
develops and you begin havingmore experiences, especially in
your early 20s, you come to therealization that maybe it's
something that you didn't wantto do as long as you originally
thought you wanted to, and Iwould argue that that happens,

(53:04):
isn't that for everybody, um,what you just said, like I would
say like well, everyone kind ofgoes through that um like oh, I
shouldn't have done that before, like everyone thinks that I
probably shouldn't have donethat.

Speaker 2 (53:20):
Okay, yeah sure like do you think if, um, an 18 year
old dates like a 21 year old andhe's like the popular kid, and
then maybe she gets fucked over,and then she's like, oh, I
shouldn't have like dated thissuper social guy because like
he's like talk flirting with allthese other girls.

Speaker 1 (53:38):
Okay, I wish I wouldn't have done that yeah,
sure, I mean at that point it'sjust a matter of, like, how much
experience you have pertainingto your age, and older people
inherently have more experiencewell, experience has nothing to
do with intelligence or beingsmart it does, it has everything
to do with Experience is a bigfucking deal.
Yeah, experience is not as bigof a deal as.

Speaker 3 (53:57):
Experience and intelligence are kind of like
homies.

Speaker 4 (54:00):
No, it's not, and I'll explain to you guys why.

Speaker 1 (54:04):
You have to practice math to get better at math and
keep experiencing math.

Speaker 4 (54:06):
Yeah, but that's assuming that the person who is
going through the experienceactually learning from the
experience.
Majority of the time, thepeople who have a lot of
experience that that try toclaim that those experiences
have made them to become whothey are kind of leave out the

(54:29):
fact that they really actuallyended up wanting to have those
experiences.
So so I'll give you a reallygood example.
Okay, my grandmother is 83 yearsold bless her heart okay, a
woman with a lot of experience,one would argue yes, because you
could argue that as older as asas you get older, you you

(54:50):
become more experienced yes yesoverall because age.

Speaker 3 (54:54):
Some people yes, some people get experiences to get
older.
Some people do not exactly whyis that?

Speaker 4 (54:59):
because because age should give you more experience
as a result of time.
Yes, I think it time should besure, but not everyone.

Speaker 1 (55:05):
I think it depends on the variety of the experience
you can experience going to thestore every day.

Speaker 4 (55:09):
You're gonna have a shit ton of kids, and then you
know you need 50 year olds arelike wow, you're fucking amazing
yes, we all go through dailyactivities during in life.
Yeah, those are all experiences, different experiences for all
different people.
A lot of people travel, somepeople do this, some people do
that, different career paths, soon and so forth.
A lot of experiences, but noteverybody is intelligent because

(55:31):
, based upon this theory, theolder that you get, you have to
become more intelligent, moresmart as a result of the
experience.

Speaker 1 (55:37):
No, no, I disagree with that, I understand.

Speaker 2 (55:40):
It's not everybody but that's exactly my point.
No, but here's where you'rewrong.
People do get intelligent, butit's like they're getting
intelligent in things that youdon't consider worthy of the
word intelligence?

Speaker 3 (55:51):
Yeah, because I've met a lot of people in my life
where they're like they're notvery bright.
Because I've met a lot ofpeople in my life where they're
like they're not very bright,but because they have so much
experience, they're able tonavigate life very effectively.
And I know a lot of people likethis like you're not a bright
person, but because you haveseen so much, you're able to
make better decisions in lifesure, but that doesn't

(56:13):
particularly make you more orintelligent.
No, but experience.

Speaker 4 (56:19):
That just makes you more experienced.

Speaker 3 (56:22):
We go back to the same point Experience and
intelligence are very importantBoth are important.

Speaker 4 (56:27):
Yes, but one does not result into the other.

Speaker 2 (56:28):
No, not the same thing.
It's literally the same thing,they're different.

Speaker 3 (56:30):
No, it's the same thing.
They're different, completelydifferent.

Speaker 4 (56:33):
That's exactly my point point.
But zach argues that they'rethe same thing.
They're not the same thing,they're completely different.

Speaker 3 (56:37):
Exactly the same thing, it's one is like what you
have, and one is like what yougain well, let's see how he's
gonna prove that okay.

Speaker 2 (56:43):
So let's say somebody like works at the rubik's cube
and every day they wake upthey're like practicing the
rubik's cube okay so they'revery intelligent in like solving
like a children's toy right ormaybe they're not intelligent,
but they just get experiencethat's what I'm saying.
It's the same thing.
So, like elon musk, he's sosmart?
No, because he started off oneplus one equals two, and then he

(57:03):
studied physics and then hestudied rockets and he studied
business.
And then he studied and he gotreally good from like from like,
practicing the skill set overand over, like he wasn't come
out his mom's pussy and he ownsa business.
He had to like work at it likeeverybody else.
So someone who sits there andscrolls tiktok for eight hours a
day is really fuckingintelligent at scrolling tiktok,
like they probably like, likethey know exactly.

(57:25):
Oh, this, this video is goingto have really funny comments.
Let me look in the commentsection.
Oh, this video.
Let me click on their profilebecause I can tell by their
video that they have other funnyvideos.
It's just like a skill setthat's not worth anything.
It's like a completely brainrot skill set.
But they're way better at ticktock, at scrolling tick tock
than you are.

Speaker 3 (57:42):
I have a question for you.
Yeah, you have an intelligentperson that does hundreds of
hours of scrolling to tick tockyeah you've got an idiot of
scrolling thousands of hours ofdoing content.
Who who does better?

Speaker 1 (57:53):
well then you're just talking about, but it's not.

Speaker 2 (57:56):
It's not the same, I'm not saying there's no such
thing as an intelligent person.

Speaker 3 (57:59):
There's just a person who has worked on a certain
skill set so let's say that bothpeople work the same amount of
time, but one is intelligent.

Speaker 2 (58:05):
But there's no such thing as intelligence, it's just
experience intelligence is theinnate ability to learn, reason
and solve problems everybodythat is, that is, anybody that's
.
People are lazy with theirbrain and they don't try to do
it.

Speaker 3 (58:17):
So you're saying dumb people are lazy.

Speaker 2 (58:19):
Yes, yeah, that's it, oh yeah.

Speaker 3 (58:22):
I think that dumb laziness is poorly Like.

Speaker 2 (58:24):
if somebody like you know people like I mean some
people are lazy.
I wouldn't say that toeverybody, but some people time
they say, oh man, traffic wasreally tough.
It doesn't take likeintellectual capacity to
understand oh la, has traffic.
I need to like, like I need toleave 15 minutes earlier because
there's going to be 15 minutesof traffic.

(58:44):
It's not that people are toodumb to understand that, they're
just choosing to not use theirbrain.
It's very obvious.

Speaker 4 (58:50):
It's cognitive ability, pattern recognition,
adaptability, there's like somany things that go into into
what.
What intelligence would be liketo suggest that intelligence
does not exist based upon thefact that you assume that people
just are lazy, that can't putlike.
That's just like.
That's so wild to me.
Okay, what's something that youconsider intelligent?

(59:12):
I literally just explain themto you.
Cognitive ability pattern, butgive me a the two cognitive
ability pattern recognition.

Speaker 1 (59:17):
Your cognitive ability has to be utilized.
So what, what, how?
Where would you be if you neverwent to school, if you were
never like from a young age anddoctor?

Speaker 3 (59:24):
I think an intelligent person wouldn't go
to school.
They would still figure it out,and I actually have an example
of this.
Um, I used to have an employee.

Speaker 1 (59:30):
Um I think it's a driven person.
That's an ambitious person whatthat's an ambitious person that
you're talking about, willingto, to figure it out.
Those are all different traits.

Speaker 3 (59:37):
Ambitious and intelligent.
So this person didn't go toschool until he was 15, 15, 16.
Because he was in the streetsof Guatemala.
He grew up in a gang and herealized at 15, he was like fuck
, if I don't leave Guatemala,I'm going to be fucked.
I'm going to be fucked.
He never went to school, neverstudied anything, didn't do shit
.
At 15, he was meditating.

(59:58):
He's like fuck, I need to go tothe United States.
So he comes to the UnitedStates, brings his little
brother I think he was 12.
And he walks across.
Never had he ever studiedanything.
Gets to the United States, goesto school for the first time
ever, but because he has a highlevel intelligence, he's ever to
discern the fact that if hedidn't get out of Guatemala,

(01:00:18):
he's gonna fucking die becausehe's in the gang, uh.
And then he gets in school.
So he's a five-year highschooler at 15.
So he graduates high school at20.
Okay, this motherfucker is nowa doctor, but you're proving my
point.

Speaker 1 (01:00:34):
I have a yeah, I have a question do you think that?
Do you think that intelligenceis genetic?

Speaker 3 (01:00:39):
a large part of it.
Yeah, where do you think?
That that came from originallyhow do you think that
intelligence is how you are?

Speaker 1 (01:00:45):
no, well, it came from.

Speaker 3 (01:00:46):
Somewhere experience and the ability and a lot of the
other abilities, cognitiveskills, comprehension, right,
and it was like all these skillssomewhere generationally.

Speaker 1 (01:00:53):
Then it was thus like coded into your dna and then
spread to offspring.
But where do you think itoriginated from?

Speaker 3 (01:00:59):
From your DNA.

Speaker 1 (01:01:02):
It didn't just appear , it came from what consistent
pursuit of something I mean, andthen that programmed of one's
brain to behave that way.

Speaker 3 (01:01:11):
More, if you are more driven or you're more
manifesting it through something that is visible to us,
right, right, but usuallyintelligence.
We consider intelligencebecause we can see someone do
something.
We can't see someone beingintelligent if they're not doing
anything.
So if you're fucking lazy, thatperson can be very intelligent.
We just don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:01:31):
Very true, yeah, very true.

Speaker 2 (01:01:33):
No, not true at all.
Everybody like very true.
Yeah, very true.
No, not true at all.
Everybody like like I amsmarter than elon musk before he
learned anything, and then helearned a bunch of things and he
learned more important thingsand now he's smarter than me.
Like it's not, like he has.

Speaker 1 (01:01:47):
Like a magical power, but he has the capacity to
learn things faster, quicker andhas a larger because his brain
has been trained that way overconsistent experience, he chose
to use his brain.

Speaker 3 (01:01:57):
That's why so you can't do the same thing he does
yeah he could.

Speaker 2 (01:02:00):
I could, if I would have applied myself like he
applied himself and, by the way,also have like the… I would
argue that you don't have hisability.

Speaker 4 (01:02:07):
Well yeah, because he's not that is the wildest
thing that I've ever heard in myentire life.

Speaker 3 (01:02:11):
I could be Elon Musk.
Exactly, exactly, exactly,exactly, exactly.

Speaker 4 (01:02:13):
Exactly, exactly, exactly, exactly, exactly,
exactly, exactly, exactly,exactly, exactly, exactly,
exactly, exactly, exactly,exactly, exactly, exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:02:35):
Exactly, exactly, exactly ability to yeah, no, no,
no, no.
I actually have a pretty goodbook for you to read.
Let's talk about it, but wheredo you think?

Speaker 3 (01:02:37):
the ability came from Genetics, from using your brain
Genetics, but where?

Speaker 1 (01:02:39):
did it originate from ?
From his genetics Right?

Speaker 4 (01:02:42):
I don't understand.

Speaker 1 (01:02:44):
It had to start somewhere.

Speaker 3 (01:02:45):
It was.

Speaker 1 (01:02:45):
It's like a tool, like you have the whoever took,
like the initiative.
It didn't just appear.
Whoever took the initiativethen increased their iq and
spread that through their genesand probably consistently
increased over time becausetheir children, their offspring
were inherently smarter thanother offspring.

(01:03:05):
Let's assume we agree with yourtheory, okay okay and then well
that that's where intelligencebecomes genetic, and it makes
people predisposed to beingintelligent, as you're speaking.
Okay, but it started fromsomewhere Sure.
From acting and practicing andobtaining the information.
Intelligence wasn't just poofintelligence.

Speaker 3 (01:03:23):
There has to be action nerve for someone to see
the intelligence.
That is true.

Speaker 4 (01:03:27):
Sure, but the existence of it is what's in
this argument.
We're not talking about whetherOkay, how did AI?
Become intelligent.

Speaker 1 (01:03:36):
What?
How did AI?
We're not.
We're not talking about whether, okay, how did, how did?
How did ai become intelligent?

Speaker 2 (01:03:40):
what?
How did ai become intelligent?
Yeah, that's a good one.

Speaker 4 (01:03:42):
Yeah, what's your point?

Speaker 2 (01:03:44):
it wasn't just intelligent they didn't just
code it and it's good.
It had to learn.
It had to go through millionsof articles and learn shit and
then become intelligent, and thepoint being it.

Speaker 1 (01:03:53):
Our intelligence works the exact same way.
It started somewhere okay yeah,that's it but, but.

Speaker 4 (01:03:59):
But.

Speaker 1 (01:03:59):
The point is, intelligence exists and it's not
equal with everyone right,because not everybody tries, not
everybody is exposed to thesame thing, not everybody has
the same dna that might makethem inherently more intelligent
, because of generations andgenerations of application sure,
but zach is arguing that thereis no such a thing, that
everybody is the same level ofintelligence, and intelligence
does not exist.

Speaker 2 (01:04:19):
I think there could be like very small like maybe
one percent different in likesome kind of like brain genetics
maybe zach does do this fromtime to time.

Speaker 4 (01:04:30):
How?

Speaker 2 (01:04:30):
many people have you seen fucking?
Mark cuban is dyslexic.
He's a the fuck.
How did he become a billionaire?
He's literally dyslexic.
Apparently it doesn't hurt youthat much.
That's what I'm saying, but butthat.

Speaker 3 (01:04:42):
But you're like dyslexia ADD or whatever.
Yeah.
It actually it, it, it.
Sometimes it helps youovercompensate in other areas.
So even though you're deficientin certain things, makes you
overcompensate in other way.

Speaker 1 (01:04:55):
Thank you, you're proving my point.
I want to tie this back intothe relationship conversation,
since we're talking aboutintelligence.
Does that mean that an olderperson dating an 18-year-old
makes them compatible becausethey are as experienced and
intelligent as the 18-year-old?

Speaker 3 (01:05:09):
I'll be honest, I think your whole compatibility
conversation is bullshit.

Speaker 4 (01:05:14):
You don't think that people are compatible?
What?

Speaker 3 (01:05:16):
no, I just think that compatibility is not that
important I agree with you.

Speaker 2 (01:05:20):
Yeah, I've said this a thousand times, so like you
guys are arguing.

Speaker 3 (01:05:23):
I think it's happening to myself like it
doesn't fucking matter.
If your goal is to be togetherforever, compatibility means
nothing if the goal is to betogether forever.
Compatibility means nothing,nothing.

Speaker 4 (01:05:38):
So you're suggesting that if the motivation of being
together is high enough, where,then, you're willing to go
through all this shit in theworld?
It does not matter whether ornot you agree on the same things
, it does not matter whether ornot you believe the same things.
You would go through itregardless.
Yes, yes, okay, I 100% agreewith things.
You would go through itregardless.
Yes, yes, okay, I 100% agreewith that.

(01:05:59):
However, here's the problem.

Speaker 3 (01:06:03):
By the way, and then, after you're done, I'll tell
you what I think does matter.

Speaker 4 (01:06:06):
Okay, and I'll explain.
Let's see, I sat next to acouple on the plane once and
they were this old couple, um,married for 60 years.
And I said, oh wow, like, howlong have you guys been married?
And like, oh, 60 years.
I was like, oh wow, um, youknow what made you stay married

(01:06:26):
all this time?
And the wife goes.
We hated each other for 20years.
And I said what do you mean?
And she goes for the first 20years of our marriage we
absolutely hated each other.
We did not want to be together.
I didn't want to be be together.
And I said um, why did youcontinue being together?
She said because of jesusbecause jesus and I said huh,

(01:06:51):
she goes.
our faith kept us togetherbecause we didn't believe in
divorce.
And I said interesting.
And she said and we found eachother again once.
We went to counseling in ourchurch and talked to our pastor
and our pastor said if you bothbelieve in Jesus, you should

(01:07:15):
believe that he wants the bestthings for you and so anything
that you do, whatever you gothrough, you have to remember
that you're going through it forhim.
And they said from that dayforward, we decided that we're
going to put everything asideand if we have any problems,
we're just going to look toJesus to give us the direction

(01:07:38):
of where we should go.
Yeah, that proves what you justsaid.

Speaker 3 (01:07:42):
yeah, and actually it proves what I'm about to say
too but, but, but the problem isyou're actually coming.
You're like like you're leadinginto about what I'm about to
say but.

Speaker 4 (01:07:52):
But I'm not but.
The thing is, I said I agreewith it yeah, I don't agree, but
that was actually really sweet,I don't disagree that.
That's that, that there isanother route, right, right, of
course there is forcing yourselfto be married to someone
because you believe in somethinggreater.

Speaker 3 (01:08:06):
That, absolutely exists, you're absolutely right,
and which leads me to whatisn't that a?
Compatibility though thecompatibility is that both of
the people believed in one thingof course well, that kind of
leads into what I'm about to say, so but it's, it's, that's kind
of a paradox though, becauseyou're forced exactly so
yeah, that's crazy so whatactually matters in
relationships?

(01:08:27):
Not it's not compatibility,it's not family, it's not
culture, it's not society.
What actually matter is thewillingness of you to to work on
something together, which isusually your relationship still
compatibility, though, is yourwillingness compatibility is a
part of it, can be a a part ofit, but doesn't have to be.
So the willingness of you twowanting to work on something.

Speaker 1 (01:08:48):
So if one person is willing and another isn't,
that's not compatible.

Speaker 3 (01:08:51):
The willingness of you trying to work on something,
the willingness of you tryingto work on something together.

Speaker 1 (01:08:56):
So as long as you both are willing, it'll work.
That's compatibility.

Speaker 3 (01:09:00):
Your compatibility, on your willingness.

Speaker 1 (01:09:02):
No, all the time.
Sometimes, All yourcompatibility on your
willingness no, all the time,sometimes all the time.
If you have two people that arewilling, that is a
compatibility.
That is the compatibilitythat's determining your success.
One thing sure, but there's alot of things.
The one thing that'sdetermining your success the
willingness is like thewillingness is okay, what are
the other things?

Speaker 3 (01:09:17):
I mean you're gonna have compatibility about a
million different things.

Speaker 1 (01:09:19):
I mean lists well, yeah, we're talking about
compatibility being the thingthat keeps people together.

Speaker 3 (01:09:23):
But I'm telling you it's not compatibility, it's the
willingness, but two peoplehave to be willing, and that's
compatibility.

Speaker 1 (01:09:31):
No, it's not.

Speaker 3 (01:09:32):
Compatibility is a part of it, but it's not all of
it.
Willingness is the key point ofthis Willingness to work on
something together.

Speaker 4 (01:09:40):
But when you say willingness, both people would
have to have willingness.

Speaker 1 (01:09:43):
And that is compatibility.
The person one, person two hasto have willingness.

Speaker 3 (01:09:47):
Yes, it is compatibility, but it's
causation correlation.
But it's not a compatibility,it's the willingness Andy,
therefore compatible.
We can have the compatibilityof loving, you know, artwork and
design people, yeah, so Mo, doyou think you could?

Speaker 2 (01:09:59):
in that case, by your logic, you can be compatible
with anybody, because you canjust choose to be compatible for
sure.

Speaker 4 (01:10:04):
The willingness has to be there.
Yeah, what do you?

Speaker 2 (01:10:06):
mean the willingness yeah, which is a separate part
exactly, it's a separate part ofcompatibility, but willing it's
a separate part.
First of all, first of, all.

Speaker 4 (01:10:15):
First of all, you guys, we're destroying your own
argument.

Speaker 2 (01:10:19):
The problem is you guys lack the ability to listen
and and the problem is Iinterrupt too much.

Speaker 3 (01:10:27):
The problem is the problem is this when?

Speaker 4 (01:10:30):
you start to yell, as if you, as if you made it to
the basket when you haven't wealready dunked on you and you
haven't.

Speaker 3 (01:10:37):
The issue is we kind of did let's let the, let's let
the but, but let me finish, andthen everybody will decide just
in the comments, guys in thejust decide who won this
argument.

Speaker 4 (01:10:49):
Once I finish, we could decide If both people have
the willingness.
Where does this willingnesscome from?
It comes from desire.
Attraction is a part of it, yes, and if you don't have the
desire, you're no longercompatible.

Speaker 3 (01:11:04):
Desire could be a part of it, but it desire could
be a part of it, but it's notnecessarily a part of it the
desire is the only thing that'sa part of it willingness is the
only.

Speaker 4 (01:11:11):
You can not desire someone and still have the
willingness no no, it is notdesiring someone having the
desire to have the willingnessin order to to go through this
pain of whatever it is that youhave to go through.
If you believe in somethinggreater, and and and for some
people, well, I mean, that'swhat it is.
If you, if you believe insomething greater, it's either
you believe in god or youbelieve in yourself.

Speaker 3 (01:11:34):
It's one or the other or if you will believe in god,
then it should work better, Iguess sure because you, you, you
believe in something that has ahigher power than you do and
god tells, tells you, hey, youguys need to try Fuck divorce.

Speaker 1 (01:11:46):
But to circle back on like what you guys are saying
in terms of the willingness.
I think everything iscompatibility because, yes, you
can be compatible with anyone oncertain things, but you have to
be compatible also on thechoice to pursue marriage or be
romantic or anything.

Speaker 3 (01:11:59):
It's all compatibility.
And what's the definition ofwillingness?

Speaker 1 (01:12:02):
I'm not talking about willingness, I'm not talking
about willingness.
I'm talking about compatibility.
You just defined it.
No, I'm talking aboutcompatibility, not willingness.

Speaker 2 (01:12:13):
The reality is it all stems from simple attraction
and people are unwilling to orunable to see it.
But the reality is.
Let me ask you a question.

Speaker 3 (01:12:18):
Bo, I have a question Are you attracted to symbionts
and dicks up guys' asses?
No, no no, I am Just makingsure.

Speaker 2 (01:12:24):
I am.
How come you never arecompatible with big fat girls?

Speaker 4 (01:12:32):
I don't understand.
Riddle me this, Mo.
You could be compatible withanybody.

Speaker 1 (01:12:36):
How come you never are compatible with big fat
girls.
This is primal If you're youneed offspring.

Speaker 2 (01:12:42):
But that's what I'm saying.
It's attraction, it's notcompatibility, because you
wouldn't even give a big fatgirl a chance to become
compatible with you, just like agirl.

Speaker 3 (01:12:50):
If I apologize for all the fat girls watching this
YouTube, I apologize.

Speaker 2 (01:12:54):
I don't mean fat in a bad way, by the way.

Speaker 3 (01:12:56):
Yeah, he's a fat shamer.

Speaker 2 (01:12:58):
It's like you're not shaming anyone.
I apologize for this guy.
Like if I back when I was broke.
I had no money, I had noconfidence.
I did not address it.
You were dating fat girls.
No, but I'm saying no, girlswould have a connection with me.
They'd always say oh, I likeyou as a friend.

Speaker 4 (01:13:15):
What do you think compatibility means?
Do you have a?

Speaker 2 (01:13:17):
connection now?

Speaker 1 (01:13:18):
No, I do of course.
Even your success is directlytied into primal yes, it's all
attractive.

Speaker 2 (01:13:27):
It's not compatibility.
Oh, we're we.
Our star signs are the same andwe align on the celestial plane
.
What's your star?

Speaker 3 (01:13:32):
what's your sign by the?

Speaker 4 (01:13:33):
way zach.
When was the yeah?
Yeah when was the last time?

Speaker 1 (01:13:38):
we all get together.
We all get along really well, Ithink, because our signs when
was the last time you wereattracted to a girl?

Speaker 2 (01:13:45):
I mean today what do you mean?

Speaker 4 (01:13:46):
okay, were you attracted to somebody else
before that?
Of course were you attracted tosomebody else before that.
Of course are you compatiblewith every single one of those
people.
Thank you very much.
I appreciate it no, that stilldoesn't make sense, because, oh,
it doesn't I thought you wereattracted to everybody, so then,
therefore, you could be witheveryone no, he's right, he's
right.

Speaker 1 (01:14:03):
No.

Speaker 4 (01:14:03):
Physically attracted oh, I'm sorry isn't that what
you were talking about?

Speaker 2 (01:14:07):
no attraction is.
There's more things than justphysically, ah gotcha, what else
are there?
So, for example, girlsespecially are attracted like
success, ambition, like allthese, like personality traits.

Speaker 4 (01:14:18):
Yeah, and then what happens if you're not?

Speaker 3 (01:14:20):
those things because you're successful and rich and
then what happens?

Speaker 4 (01:14:22):
if you're not those things, girls would not be
attracted to you.
Correct, okay?
And then what happens if youbecome those things?
Then girls are more attractedto you, and then what happens
after that is that all therelationship is about.
You think the only thing thatmatters is that they're
attracted and then that's it.

Speaker 3 (01:14:41):
It's over because you won't even.
You're being an absolutist like, yes, that's important, but
it's not Because you won't evenget.
You're being an absolutist Likeyes, that's important, that is
important, but it's not the onlything.

Speaker 4 (01:14:48):
Exactly Because there are steps.
Initially, when you look atsomebody, physical attraction
for men.
Yes.
For most women, generallyspeaking intellectual attraction
.

Speaker 2 (01:14:58):
I'm not saying attraction, just physical
attraction.
I'm saying that feeling ofattraction, that like gut level,
like feeling.
Girls get it more so if a guy'ssmooth, he's tall, he's funny,
he's confident, whatever.

Speaker 4 (01:15:08):
Guys get it more so if a girl's like super fun, you
know big dick, yeah, yeah, yeah,yeah, yeah, and then that's my
point.

Speaker 2 (01:15:17):
So you, you are choosing what you choose who you
have a connection with becauseyou put the effort in to have a
connection with them.
But you're only going to chooseto try to have a connection
with somebody who you'reattracted to.

Speaker 4 (01:15:29):
Yes, you choose to have a connection with somebody
you're attracted to.
You choose to stay withsomebody that you have, that
you're compatible with.

Speaker 1 (01:15:35):
But the person?
Yeah, the person has to beattracted to you as well for you
to even have the opportunity tomake that decision.

Speaker 2 (01:15:40):
Yeah, Otherwise you would never even be in that boat
, which is compatibility.

Speaker 1 (01:15:42):
Which is also compatibility.

Speaker 3 (01:15:44):
Yes, because you wrote the dragon, this podcast
went into a very interestingdirection.

Speaker 4 (01:15:48):
You know what Zach does, this thing, which is like
very interesting.
He'll flow through aconversation.
He'd be like oh, I dunked onyou and then he'll get dunked on
and then he'll change with me.
You are talking about what?
What was your point?
That was, that was um theopposite than mine.

Speaker 3 (01:16:10):
You guys should have some tequila shots, like it make
this spark.

Speaker 1 (01:16:13):
Yeah, y'all should like hook your elbows and you
know do.

Speaker 4 (01:16:15):
Andy pay attention.

Speaker 2 (01:16:16):
What you you're implying that what makes
something work out with a personis like some kind of like oh
you like ice cream, I like icecream.
But in reality there's peoplewho are wildly different in so
many areas, but they'reattracted to each other and
they're choosing to make it workand they're trying to be
compatible.
So then they end up beingcompatible because they're

(01:16:38):
intentionally trying to becompatible with the other person
.

Speaker 4 (01:16:40):
Willingness, yeah, yeah, yeah, willingness, that's
the best way to put it actuallybut you, in your own sentence,
you just suggested that they'retrying to be compatible yeah, it
takes two people so then theyare compatible at that point but
then compatibility is a choice,which means you can be
compatible with anybody whichmeans compatibility, choice or
not.

Speaker 3 (01:16:58):
It's both actually but?

Speaker 4 (01:16:59):
but nobody's saying that compatibility is not a
choice.

Speaker 2 (01:17:02):
Of course it could be a choice okay, well then you're
just like mixing up the words.

Speaker 4 (01:17:05):
Okay, cool no, I'm saying you have to have
compatibility.
Whether or not it's a choicethat has nothing to do with
anything you can be, you can belook look, look.

Speaker 1 (01:17:13):
You can be compatible and not willing that's true,
you're either naturallycompatible and you're fucked.

Speaker 2 (01:17:22):
But I'm saying there's no such thing as
willingness is the mostimportant thing.
Of course there is, there areto be compatible.

Speaker 4 (01:17:27):
That's not true.
There are people that youwouldn't meet, that you're going
to be like oh, you'reinterested in this, I'm
interested in this.

Speaker 2 (01:17:32):
That would be a form of compatibility okay, so you
meet someone like that, exceptthey're I know girls are like
they have a big belly I knowgirls are like

Speaker 4 (01:17:39):
girl right, if I'm attracted to that person, sure?

Speaker 2 (01:17:41):
but you're not attracted to that person are you
attracted?

Speaker 4 (01:17:44):
I don't understand what that has anything to do
with anything.
You could be compatible to alot of people that you're not.
You're not a trick.
I'm compatible with you in alot of senses.
I'm not attracted to you.
What the fuck are you talking?

Speaker 2 (01:17:54):
about.
That's why we're not going toget married okay.

Speaker 4 (01:17:59):
okay was that you could be compatible.
Two things could be true at thesame time.
You guys should just kiss,that's it.
I think so A little tongue inthere.

Speaker 3 (01:18:06):
A little sexual tension here.
I think it's just like.

Speaker 4 (01:18:15):
You could be compatible with some people and
not be in a relationship withthem, and you could be
incompatible with some peopleand be in a relationship with
them.

Speaker 2 (01:18:19):
Well, I mean, I suppose with incompatibility has
no practical use, of course itdoes.
I mean, I suppose withincompatibility has no practical
use, of course it does.

Speaker 4 (01:18:23):
The longevity of the relationship has to do with
compatibility, that is the point.

Speaker 2 (01:18:29):
But if you're saying compatibility is an important
thing but you choose to becompatible with somebody, then
it's not like, oh, we workbecause we're compatible, we
just work because I'm putting inthe work, I'm like doing the
work, but that is acompatibility.

Speaker 3 (01:18:49):
That's what they were saying.

Speaker 1 (01:18:50):
It stems from, like, changing the compatibility is
the foundation, willingness iswhat's on top of it exactly.
Is your beard red?

Speaker 3 (01:18:53):
yes, it is it's dirty blonde.
You're like no, it's ginger,you notice, so you're ginger,
she's ginger.

Speaker 4 (01:18:56):
You notice what's happening.
Yeah, andy's gotten left out ofthe conversation.

Speaker 1 (01:18:59):
He tries to jump in like I like we're just waiting
on you guys to change thesubject.

Speaker 4 (01:19:04):
I think you guys are stupid.
Like his conversation is likeso untargeted, yeah yeah yeah,
Mo, here's what it's like.

Speaker 2 (01:19:08):
We got way too deep on the wrong thing.
You guys are basically sayingLike they're arguing about
nothing.

Speaker 1 (01:19:12):
Yeah, there's like no substance in this conversation,
If you guys got sucked intonothing.

Speaker 2 (01:19:19):
He's.
You're compatible with healthyfood.
No, of course you like to eatcheeseburgers and ice cream, but
you're choosing to eat healthyfood.

Speaker 3 (01:19:29):
So then you're, healthy.

Speaker 4 (01:19:30):
You got a next question let's move on, we're
gonna clip what you just saidfor the audience to decide
whether that even made any sense.

Speaker 3 (01:19:37):
Yeah, it definitely did Something about food and-.
I'm not even gonna respond toit.
Sorry that you small brainindividual.
You could have a super fastthyroid.

Speaker 2 (01:19:45):
Yeah, I want to ask you about, because I think a lot
of guys would be interested.
All right, go for it.
You're 44 years old, yes, 44.
And yet you're still able toget hot ass chicks, correct.
How do you do that?

Speaker 1 (01:19:59):
Confidence, it's confidence.

Speaker 4 (01:20:01):
Andy, you put that bottle right in front of the
camera.

Speaker 2 (01:20:04):
I think confidence is part of it, but I think there's
a whole system besidesconfidence.

Speaker 3 (01:20:08):
Obviously, there's like 20 different things, but
confidence is number one.
Yeah.
Like I do have an ability tojust say things in a way where
I'm just like 100% about it.

Speaker 1 (01:20:19):
It's a form of manifesting yeah, if you believe
and you're convincing yourselflike, this is the person that
I'm going to get.

Speaker 3 (01:20:24):
You're going to get them, so I'm going to give you
an example, and I know peopleare going to cringe when I'm
about to say this but I've saidyou're going to so.
So I've gone up to women andbeen like I'm going to get you
pregnant and in my head it's areality.
I'm already like three, fouryears from.
You're gonna be my baby mama,you're gonna get pregnant and

(01:20:45):
it's gonna happen.
But I believe it and it's thatlevel of confidence that women
fucking get intoxicated.

Speaker 1 (01:20:51):
This is women that have shown like signs that
they're into you yeah, of courseright.

Speaker 3 (01:20:55):
Okay, I'm not gonna do some random bitch.
Yeah, if they're into you.

Speaker 1 (01:20:57):
They're gonna love that shit no, well, don't that
means that you are so attractedto them that you want to get
them pregnant.

Speaker 3 (01:21:03):
Yeah, you smell them, you smell them, like oh, I'm
attracted, I'm just like, oh,you just want to.
You know it's like.
So it's that it is number onelevel attractiveness.
Now there is a level also ofdeveloping, like, for example,
other other skills likeemotional intelligence.
If you're able to develop theeq of you understanding how they
feel, understanding how I feel,and then having a conversation

(01:21:27):
on that level, you can.

Speaker 1 (01:21:30):
You can control the whole situation.

Speaker 3 (01:21:32):
The clitoris, this emotional clitoris.
Right there he's right.
You know You're like I'mtelling you about how you feel
and how you're feeling and ifthey actually get what you're
saying and they feel it, slamdunk so when you were pursuing
your wife yes, and you saidwhich one your most previous one

(01:21:54):
, okay.

Speaker 2 (01:21:55):
And you said you okay , she's in thailand, you're
buying her shit, you're payingher tuition, like all this stuff
.
Right?
What if she would have justbeen like oh, actually I like
this other guy better then itwouldn't have worked out, and
then move on to the next wouldyou have been genuinely
heartbroken?

Speaker 3 (01:22:13):
yes okay, that's nice to know I was very I would,
because actually there was amoment actually like let me tell
you something.
So she did call me one day andbe like so she did call me one
day and be like you're ruiningmy relationship, I can never
talk to you ever again.
Click and for like two days Iwas just like you really got sad

(01:22:34):
.
Sad and depressed.
I'm like fuck, I fucked up.
Maybe I shouldn't have beenthat aggressive and I was just
completely sad.

Speaker 4 (01:22:46):
On the third day she sends a message like hey, what's
?

Speaker 2 (01:22:50):
up she said best day of my life.
It was fucking great.
Yeah so yeah, but I'm moreasking like in general.
I guess, like because we'vetalked about, I've dated girls
in the past, right, who havekind of implied, oh, buy me this
purse or buy, buy me this planeticket, buy me this blah blah,
and I'm kind of like, yeah, fuckthat right, and you seem to

(01:23:12):
more of the mindset of yeah, whynot?

Speaker 3 (01:23:15):
well, I think I attract women that like to be
taken care of or like nicethings right and I I'm okay with
appealing to that part of theirpsyche and I feel like you have
way too many options to beappealing to those type of women
, so you're only limited to likemaybe 40 20 of the women
basically that are not attractedto a guy buying them a purse

(01:23:39):
he's saying you have more, youcan make more options, you have
more options.

Speaker 2 (01:23:42):
Yeah, so I guess you're okay.
So let's dig deep into this.
So like, how do you balance,like potentially, like let's say
you like go on a first datewith a girl, like have you ever
bought a girl a purse, likefirst date or after the first
date?
So it's always like down theline Two three dates, four dates
.

Speaker 3 (01:24:00):
You know if I, if know, if I read her, I'm like,
okay, this girl likes stuff,right, she likes gifts, five
love languages, great book, garyChapman.
So I see that she likes thingsto be bought for her.
So I'm like, okay, I'm going toappeal to that, I'm going to
appeal to her love language.
So I'm going to buy her this.

Speaker 2 (01:24:20):
Okay, and are you ever?

Speaker 3 (01:24:31):
worried that she's then going to take that purse.

Speaker 1 (01:24:32):
Be like thanks bro, and then you feel used um.

Speaker 2 (01:24:33):
Does that happen?
Does that?

Speaker 3 (01:24:33):
happen?
Yes, do I feel used?
No, it was the.
I see it as the cost offiguring out if somebody's worth
it or not.
So so it cost me what you know,whatever the purse was worth.
So I paid, let's say, $500, tofind out that that person was
not worth my time, and in mylife my time is way more

(01:24:57):
important than those $500.
So so if I bought a purse rightaway and she runs off, I'm like
, oh, at least I didn't spendthree months trying to but what
if?

Speaker 1 (01:25:07):
what if she's only with you because you keep buying
her purses?

Speaker 3 (01:25:10):
I mean, you can give after a small period of time.
You can kind of figure it out.
Ok, you know.
So you're saying you just readthem, yeah, you read them like
oh my God, she's just using me.
I buy her something, I try tokiss her something.
I try to kiss her.

Speaker 2 (01:25:22):
She doesn't want to kiss me back, you know, but you
would buy her something beforeshe's ever kissed you,
potentially or not yeah, I'vedone it before not often, but I
have.

Speaker 3 (01:25:29):
But I usually buy someone something after they've
kissed me, right, I see, for themost part, but I have.
I done it before, yes, and I'mgetting.
I'm reading right like how doesshe treat me after I bought the
purse, and then you read herpersonality or what she does and
you know is she is she?
Is she calling me?
If she texted me, is she takingthe initiative?
And if she's not doing any ofthat, then it costs me a purse
to figure out that she's notworth it.

Speaker 2 (01:25:52):
What about?
Because one thing I Ipersonally worry about is, like
I don't think most girls areeither gold diggers or not gold
diggers.

Speaker 3 (01:26:00):
I don't believe in that.
I don't believe in that.
I don't believe women are golddiggers.
You should, I mean I think golddiggers exist.

Speaker 2 (01:26:05):
I think it's like 1%, though.

Speaker 3 (01:26:06):
That are literally just like thanks for the purse
peace Not even peace, thoughSome girls are very good at
holding up their facade forever1% of women are gold diggers.

Speaker 2 (01:26:15):
Yeah, but I think there's a big gray area of girls
who, like, do like thelifestyle and also are kind of
attracted to you because you can, you're successful and you can
provide that lifestyle.
And it's like this gray area oflike.
Okay, how much of her like isattracted to me?
Because, like I'm thisambitious, successful guy versus

(01:26:36):
just like I'm giving her thislifestyle.
Maybe she doesn't even knowthat.

Speaker 3 (01:26:39):
But here's the thing they're tied into each other.
Sometimes they're just.
They're just attracted to yourlifestyle and then, once you
bring them into your world, thenthey fall in love.
I think too many men get stuckin the fact that, oh, they're
just attracted to my lifestylethere's something and and then
once they're attracted, then youhave to court and then you have

(01:27:01):
to make it.
It's the same way it is your jobto make them fall in love with
you, and they're like, oh no,she's using me.
I don't get to that point.
I never get to that point.
I'm just kind of like you know,now it's my, now she's
attractive, cool, now I'm goingto make her fall in love with me
.

Speaker 1 (01:27:15):
I'm going to buy her flowers.

Speaker 3 (01:27:17):
I'm going to take her on dates.
I'm going to like treat hergood, like I don't see the whole
using part and this is thebiggest problem with men.
By the way, you would attest tothis.
I have a lot of females that Ihave that are attracting me,
correct, and I'm not.
I'm not.
I don't think I'm like anamazing looking at.
I'm not that tall, I'm notblonde like you.

(01:27:39):
I'm not have blue eyes.
I'm not tall, you know, like I'mjust like a very average
looking Mexican in Los Angeles,right?
So what is it Right?
And it's that that, thatwillingness, the, the courtship,
the love, the connection, theemotional like I do all that.
Now, sometimes that doesn'twork and you move on to the next

(01:28:01):
thing, but I will never feelused because I bought something,
I bought some shoes, and thenafter that it doesn't work out.
Okay, cool, I move on to thenext thing.
And, yes, that thing did costme money, but that money was
time.
I paid $500 for the shoes andthat is what it costs for me to
not waste my time on this bitchfor another four months.

Speaker 1 (01:28:24):
It's the same as if you were to just date a girl,
cause she's pretty.
How, how, how long can y'all bewith a girl?
Cause she's pretty.

Speaker 3 (01:28:30):
A couple of fucks, and that's it.

Speaker 1 (01:28:32):
Really yeah, okay, one.

Speaker 3 (01:28:34):
Okay, and then after I was like, oh, she's kind of
boring and not not interestingabout um like have you ever
bought a girl a flight that youlike, never met or you've never
hung out with.

Speaker 2 (01:28:50):
Yes, does that because one of my friends asked
me one time.
They're like zach, you make alot of money.
Why don't you like fly girlsout and like I?
Fly girls out all the time.
I'm always nervous, though,that I could fly them out, and
then like they're not into me,and then I feel like, damn, now
I just like flew this girl.

Speaker 3 (01:29:03):
Well, I think you need to look at things from a
mathematical point of view.
If you fly 10 girls out, one ofthem might not get on that
plane.
But, not my nine did so.

Speaker 2 (01:29:14):
when you fly girls out, when you've never met them
before, do you make it clearlike, hey, like I'm trying to
like hook up with you?

Speaker 3 (01:29:28):
Or is it just like, hey, like, let's all have fun
fly out?
No, I tell people.
I'm interested in them okaythey're like I'm very interested
in you.
I want to fight a little let's,let's, let's see where this
goes.

Speaker 1 (01:29:32):
But I'm interested in you and I wanted to get to know
you, so I'm not like hey, I'mnot.

Speaker 3 (01:29:35):
I'm not like a simp, like I don't shy away from
attraction.
Look, I'm gonna attract you, Ilike you and I'm gonna gonna
fight till a.
Let's see where this goes.
But I'm not gonna like make thegirl feel threatened yeah, yeah
, not like.

Speaker 2 (01:29:48):
It's like a.
I will do this if you do this,but it's like it's not like a
requirement, like they fighttill I.

Speaker 3 (01:29:53):
They need to fuck me okay, which is?
What most guys do.
I'm fine, you till a.
So now you need to fuck me?
No, no, if she doesn't fuck me,that's her choice and that's
totally and it's totally okayand I would be fine with that.

Speaker 2 (01:30:02):
I just wouldn't want a girl who's like sweet, free
trip to la.

Speaker 1 (01:30:06):
He thinks because I've heard girls talk to their
girlfriends and say that aboutguys, but they're like, oh yeah,
this guy like that's I've neverhooked up with him, but he
flies me all over the place.

Speaker 2 (01:30:13):
Ha ha ha.

Speaker 3 (01:30:14):
Like we got him that's the risk of life.
But but again, again.
Yeah, maybe fly her once shecomes to la.
She doesn't give you no play.
Then you don't fly her againyeah, I guess that's true.

Speaker 2 (01:30:22):
It's the same thing as you like three or four times
it's the same thing as you like.

Speaker 1 (01:30:26):
Keeping this girl like on your roster is like a
booty call just because youthink she's hot.
It's the exact same thing.
It's a very surface levelaspect.
You're not really into her as aperson, you just want to use
her because she's hot.

Speaker 6 (01:30:36):
You want to fuck her, yeah that's true, it's the same
thing, yeah and that's just therisk that you take.

Speaker 1 (01:30:39):
There's no reason to be nervous about it.

Speaker 3 (01:30:40):
Don't be nervous if anything, you're manifesting
like something that's alreadygonna happen once every 10 times
.
You know what I'm saying.
It's going to happen and whenit does happen.
You know, you might feel alittle bummed, you might lose a
little bunny right but you know,at least you got nine others
that said yes I see, I see I seeinteresting and it just expect
that it's going to happeninstead of trying to be 100

(01:31:00):
about it% 70%.
I tell guys all the time like,look, why are you so successful
women?
It's because I try.
You guys only see my successes,you only see the women I hang
out with, but you don't see thehundreds of other girls I talk
to and reject me.

Speaker 2 (01:31:22):
Mo's never got rejected in the last five years.

Speaker 3 (01:31:24):
I know because he doesn't try that hard he does.
He's not like me.
I go talk to everybody and likeI'll be rejected by seven of
seven of the 10, and three ofgirls are kind of interested.
So I narrowed down to three,put a lot of attention to three
and see which of the three likesme, and then narrowed down to
one.

Speaker 1 (01:31:45):
And then one of them actually really likes me.
Zach, I have a question Do youthink that this like nervousness
or concern of yours, likemanifests?

Speaker 2 (01:31:49):
in the way that you interact with people and treat
them.
I wouldn't say like treatpeople, but in terms of like
yeah, like buying girls stuff orlike, you know, spending money,
I don't think that peopleshould buy anyone anything until
, like, you realize that they'renot just with you for that,
yeah, that's fine, I think, ifyour love language is giving,
give those, give those gifts.
I love to go.
That's what I'm asking.

Speaker 6 (01:32:08):
I'm very but I think it's super.
I think it's super valid andlike 100.

Speaker 1 (01:32:11):
Don't buy some someone something until, like
you, know they're about you andthen give them all the gifts in
the world absolutely for themost part.

Speaker 3 (01:32:19):
I don't buy anything for like like, let's say, a
purse or heels, until I knowthey're into me for the most
part.
Have I done it the other way?
Yes, but for the most part thatI do I see?
I see yeah, and then oncethey're into me and they're
giving me a lot of love andthey're treating me like the way
I want to be treated, then whobuy them stuff?
And because now you'rereciprocating their love, they

(01:32:40):
like when you are a man andyou're taking care of them.
You're providing security,you're providing love and that
is their love language.
You provide that for them.
It's a manly thing and that'show I see it.
A man provides buy shit for thegirl and women fucking love
that shit.

Speaker 2 (01:32:58):
So where do you draw the line between like, like okay
, buying a girl like dinner,that's like pretty like
everybody buys girls like, evenlike guys in a girl like dinner.
That's like pretty likeeverybody buys girls Like, even
like guys in Wisconsin buy girlsdinner, but then like okay.
Then the next level is like,okay, buying a girl like a purse
.
Then the next level is like, oh, paying her rent or paying her
tuition or like utilities, like,where do you draw the line

(01:33:18):
between like, like do you everpay girls rent?
And just be like I'm a provider?

Speaker 3 (01:33:22):
Yeah.
Interesting girls rent and justbe like I'm a provider yeah,
interesting.
But that girl buying rent isprobably I have a question.

Speaker 1 (01:33:30):
Give me a whole lot of luck.

Speaker 3 (01:33:31):
I have a question for both of you have you ever
thrown it in a girl's face?

Speaker 1 (01:33:34):
what you've done for them, of course.
I think every guy's done that,yeah, I think every guy's done
that um, what do you mean?

Speaker 3 (01:33:39):
I, I put myself, I try not to, and sometimes like
thrown the whole list I, Ibought this for you, I took care
of you, I think that is thewackest shit.

Speaker 1 (01:33:49):
Unless it's like Unless I don't know.
I think it's pretty wack.

Speaker 4 (01:33:56):
Is it wack if somebody says you've done
nothing for me?
No, okay 100%.

Speaker 1 (01:34:01):
Stand up for yourself .

Speaker 4 (01:34:01):
So if somebody says you've done nothing for me,
stand up 100% or if they're likeacting like fucking crazy, yeah
, like stand your ground.
What happens when somebody saysyou've done nothing for me?
You bring out the list and thenthey say I can't believe, you
just threw everything in my face.

Speaker 1 (01:34:19):
You say well, you just said, I did nothing for you
, I was showing you, I didthings for you.

Speaker 3 (01:34:23):
Again, this is a very like kind of like.
What you're describing is avery sensitive kind of
teeter-tottering line of likeyou know make you know,
communicating that you'reactually doing something Like I
think and then throwingsomething.
It's like a very thin line.

Speaker 1 (01:34:38):
I think the line is shoes like those types of gifts.
I think that's silly to bringup.
Shoes like those types of gifts, I think that's silly to bring
up.
But if you paid someone's rentfor several months or you like
loaned them thirty thousanddollars or you committed like
yeah, by all means.

Speaker 3 (01:34:53):
So I'm gonna tell you a little story.
So I have you know in the pastyou know you pay someone's rent
and and you're like, and thenthe girl gets upset that they're
like.
You know you're like askingthem about their finances and
I'm just like bitch, I pay yourrent, I'm going to be involved
in your finances.
If you don't want me involvedin your finances, I'm not going
to pay your rent.

Speaker 2 (01:35:13):
That makes sense and he's like it's up to you Do you
want me to ask you how muchyou're making.

Speaker 3 (01:35:18):
How are you?
How are you?
Spending your money.

Speaker 2 (01:35:28):
What's your?
If you don't want me asking,then don't fucking pay.
Take my money, becauseotherwise, yeah, if you're
paying the rent and then they'rejust using their money to buy
crazy expensive stuff, exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:35:32):
So to me it's like, very like, and.
And then they're like oh okay,I get it, yeah.
So, yes, I'm going to beinvolved in your life, and if
you don't want me involved, goget a fucking job and pay your
own bills yeah yeah, I agree, Iagree zach, you're a ginger

Speaker 5 (01:35:44):
yeah, it's just in this life, but you're irish is
not my.

Speaker 2 (01:35:48):
What you're irish, aren't you?

Speaker 4 (01:35:49):
I'm 25 he'll fight you on the fact that he's not
you got you have ginger in yourdna for sure.

Speaker 1 (01:35:55):
What does that mean?
It's in there, it's, it shows Ican see.
I can see 25 for sure, for sure, okay, it's not a bad thing,
it's a great thing I'm gonnapoint this question towards both
of you, but we'll go with youfirst, because I know some
actually.

Speaker 4 (01:36:10):
Hmm, maybe should I ask andy first, because then you
have paper scissors for it no,no, no.
This is a, this is astrategical oh, of course it is.

Speaker 1 (01:36:19):
it's coming from you Of course it is Everything is.

Speaker 4 (01:36:25):
Who do you consider an alpha and?

Speaker 3 (01:36:31):
who do you consider?
A beta and why I feel likethere's kind of a spectrum of
alpha and betas, right.
I don't feel like it's likeyou're an alpha and you're a
beta.
I think there's kind of likethere's more people, some people
are more alpha and there'speople are more beta, so they're
in between.
To me, an alpha doesn't have totell the whole world, you're an
alpha like you just walk into aroom and then you know, like
that guy's in charge, that guyhas his together and everyone

(01:36:55):
knows who he is.
That's an alpha to me like anyguy that's like I'm the man, I'm
in control, I'm like doing this.
That to me is insecurity andthere's a lot of like alphas
that are like hey, you know, I'mthe man, and if you have to
tell everyone you're the man,you're probably not the alpha,

(01:37:16):
because everyone can see thatand yeah, it's just a matter of
confidence.

Speaker 4 (01:37:21):
100 how do you, as a woman, recognize an alpha?

Speaker 1 (01:37:25):
um confidence.
It's very, it's subtle it'squiet okay yeah, exactly what he
said.
I think it completelytranslates into the woman's side
too are you more so attractedto more confident alphas or?
Confidence is always moreattractive okay to anyone.

Speaker 4 (01:37:44):
It's like it's a, it's a form of currency, almost
yeah and so the way that Inoticed that, like the whole
situation with like somebodybeing like a little bit gay, is
attractive to you, is the factthat you think that they're
embracing it as a result ofconfidence just being sure in
themselves owning it.
Yeah, absolutely do you thinkin your experience that other

(01:38:05):
women have the same perspective?

Speaker 1 (01:38:09):
um, uh, and, and can you reframe it, like in terms of
what?

Speaker 4 (01:38:14):
in terms of they would be attracted to the same
type of uh, um, confidence.
Well, I wouldn't I wouldn'tcall it particularly confidence,
but the same type of activitythat the gay thing, sure, oh, no
, hell.

Speaker 3 (01:38:27):
No, I'm a freak, though, no, I think I think that
even if you have confidence incertain areas, women will
perceive that in a very negativeway, even if you're confident
in certain things.
So if you're confident in thewrong things, that the woman's
not attracted to they willperceive it in a negative way.
Subjective yeah, so, um, itreally depends on the one
because they could.

Speaker 1 (01:38:48):
They could perceive him someone being into gay stuff
as a threat to themselves.
Oh, if he's into dudes likehe's, he's not really into me
yeah, like who the hell putssymbionts up their ass.

Speaker 4 (01:38:59):
Like right, you know, like fuck so is it that you're
attracted to bi men, or is itthat you're attracted to
straight men who take dick uptheir ass?

Speaker 1 (01:39:08):
I'm attracted to anyone that is like a good
person and who is ambitious andwho is confident.

Speaker 4 (01:39:16):
Okay, got it.
Do you have any?

Speaker 2 (01:39:20):
And healthy what do you mean healthy?
Fuck, I was about to sayhealthy.
You and your special interestover here people on the show I
like thick uh, I don't think,but look, look, I define fat
yeah curvy was uh bmi of over 40right that that communicates so

(01:39:42):
much information about someonelike so this is uh under being
under 40 bmi show, so is thatwhat the podcast is all about?
I mean, our cameras can onlyzoom out so far oh, such an
asshole thing.

Speaker 3 (01:39:56):
I love it we're so getting your comments are
getting destroyed.
We're going to get demonetizedon YouTube.

Speaker 4 (01:40:05):
They're already starting to hate Zach, as is no,
but then you've got to look at.

Speaker 1 (01:40:11):
We could completely dissect the whole conversation
around people being overweight,Because then you have to look at
okay, why are they overweight?

Speaker 2 (01:40:17):
Because they put too much hot dogs in their face no,
but why?
Because they're hungry.

Speaker 1 (01:40:22):
There's no self-control.
Because why?
Because they're hungry.

Speaker 2 (01:40:27):
There's no self-control.
Because?
Why?
Because they're lazy mentally.
Why?
Because a plethora of thingsthey don't have confidence all
of it communicates, so muchinformation, they're traumatized
.

Speaker 1 (01:40:34):
It communicates so much information and that
determines attraction.
I'm not going to be attractedto someone who is if they
overcame it well, that tells meso much more you're right,
actually you know it'sinteresting.

Speaker 2 (01:40:44):
So if more, you're right, actually you know what's
interesting.
So if I say, like a girl hasnice eyes, it's like oh, I'm
romantic.
If I say a girl has a nice body, it's like I'm sleazy.
But it actually should be theother way around, because your
body actually says somethingabout your personality 100%.

Speaker 1 (01:40:57):
I just say oh, you've got 100% how much you upkeep on
yourself.
It communicates so much moreinformation.
Your eye color, what does thatcommunicate?

Speaker 3 (01:41:05):
Yeah, oh you got lucky if you were born that way.
Right, I'm more sensitive tothe sunlight.
Like what, mo Mo, you havebeautiful eyes Brown, deep blue
eyes, the shape, those almondeyes.

Speaker 1 (01:41:15):
Look at that.
The smile lines, mommy, thelittle eyebrow raise.

Speaker 4 (01:41:25):
Puppy, puppy, oh, poppy.
Okay, are you done with thequestions?
Yeah, okay, all right, finalquestions you ready?
Anything else you guys want tosay before I?
Okay, we'll do you first andthen her.

Speaker 3 (01:41:35):
Yeah, don't women always go first.
You've been going first thiswhole time.

Speaker 4 (01:41:40):
No, no, no, no this is also strategically needs to
be, it's because he's the alpha.
Because I'm no, no, no, no.
This is also strategicallyneeds to be because he's the elf
.
I mean, technically speaking, I.
I suppose this question doesn'treally apply to you, but I
guess it does a little bit, butanyway, um, since you have taken
it up the ass, all right then,kind of does I suppose the size

(01:42:01):
matter.

Speaker 3 (01:42:02):
Oh, definitely I would not have done it if it was
huge, but it was like a verykind of smaller size.
So, like I, yeah, size doesn'tmatter so the size matter um, it
depends.

Speaker 1 (01:42:19):
I think that I am able to.
If someone had a micro penis Ihave seen a micro penis before
if their personality wasdifferent, um, I think that I
could have done it, and if theywere better in bed in other ways
, 100 could have done it.
If I'm coming, it doesn'treally matter.
I don't know if I'm going toreproduce with you, but, um, I

(01:42:40):
can swim that far, or what no, Ijust don't know if I want that
in my jeans and my jeans, yeah,yeah, yeah but um I 100 think
that I can swim that far, orwhat?

Speaker 3 (01:42:44):
No, I just don't know , if I want that in my jeans, in
my jean pants, small penisjeans.
Yeah, yeah, I don't want smallpenis jeans.

Speaker 1 (01:42:46):
But I 100% think that I could if all of the other
bases were checked.

Speaker 3 (01:42:51):
Hey, I have a question for you how big's your
dick?

Speaker 4 (01:42:54):
We're not talking about my cock.
We are now.
Now he's probably seen his dick.

Speaker 6 (01:43:05):
He.
I won't embarrass Moe, but hashe seen it soft or hard?

Speaker 1 (01:43:06):
No, it was hard.
Wow, semi, semi, semi, semi.
Okay, all right.

Speaker 4 (01:43:08):
But to follow up with what you said, how did that
situation exactly happen?
Which one?
The micropenis person?

Speaker 1 (01:43:19):
We met and I was attracted to them initially.
He, he was confident um no, Iwouldn't even say that he was
crazy confident so then, whatmade you attracted to him?
Um, I think were other aspectsof the personality that I was
interested in.

Speaker 4 (01:43:34):
Okay, yeah and then he takes off his pants yeah and
then.
But this is are you, are youhoping for it to grow this?

Speaker 1 (01:43:41):
also goes to say um it just because they have a huge
dick.
I'm not gonna beat with youjust because they have a huge
dick.

Speaker 4 (01:43:45):
I'm not gonna beat with you just because you have a
huge dick sure, sure, sure, Iunderstand that, yeah, but but
okay, so he takes off his pantsand then, and then are you, are
you like, like, what's thereaction?
I didn't have a reaction youjust said oh okay, I guess this
is what we're dealing with 100,but were you?
Thinking to yourself.

Speaker 1 (01:44:01):
Oh, I'm waiting for it to grow and just it was like
oh, I've never seen a penis thissmall before.

Speaker 3 (01:44:06):
You actually said that.

Speaker 1 (01:44:08):
In my head.

Speaker 5 (01:44:09):
It was something I registered.
I thought you said it out loud.

Speaker 1 (01:44:11):
I wasn't judgment.
I discerned there's a littlebit of confusion for me.

Speaker 3 (01:44:15):
Kind of like when I was walking around the house
with Zach without his clothes on.
I was like oh my.
God, what were you?
Saying it's so big.
It's so big, zach, oh my God,wisconsin penis it's so white
it's so big, we got thestallions.
We got the stallions.
We got the white stallionsWisconsin penis.

Speaker 2 (01:44:33):
We eat carnivore shit .
You know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:44:35):
We're not like these vegans oh.
Wait, was there two penises?

Speaker 2 (01:44:46):
No, no, this is me eating this vegan eating steaks
this vegan hip thrust 300 poundsbuddy, I squatted him okay on
my back.
For girls I think oh, okay,yeah, but for dudes I don't
think it's, you've never seenvegan power lifters the size of
fucking yaks yeah, but theyweren't.
They became vegan recently.
The question is no.

Speaker 1 (01:45:02):
No, they weren't being the whole life.
Not the whole life, but they'vebeen.
They've been vegan for 5-10years.

Speaker 2 (01:45:06):
After they got the muscles.
Maybe, maybe, I wouldn't know,I don't think you can build
muscles off of leaves and air.

Speaker 3 (01:45:12):
Does veganism make your dick?

Speaker 1 (01:45:14):
bigger.

Speaker 3 (01:45:14):
How do cows do it?
That's what I'm asking.

Speaker 4 (01:45:16):
Andy, allow other people to have a conversation.

Speaker 1 (01:45:19):
Cows are big and powerful as fuck.
They just eat grass.

Speaker 2 (01:45:22):
Wait, so if I eat, cow meat and cows eat grass,
then I'm technically a vegan.

Speaker 1 (01:45:29):
Nah, if you think about, it.

Speaker 2 (01:45:31):
Nah, you're eating the cow.
I kind of am.

Speaker 1 (01:45:32):
You're eating the cow .
You're an omnivore.

Speaker 2 (01:45:34):
I'm eating a thing that was made out of grass, yeah
, but you ate the thing, sotherefore I'm eating grass.

Speaker 4 (01:45:45):
It's just in a different form.

Speaker 1 (01:45:47):
It's like if you mix it up in the meat form yeah,
yeah, yeah, let's see, let's seewhat the uh veganist thing?

Speaker 5 (01:45:50):
I never knew about this crazy so annoying, but but
what?

Speaker 4 (01:45:53):
I what I kind of always what I wonder with
regards to reactions of somebodywho sees a micropenis right is
like I always am questioninglike is in your head you're
thinking that, oh, I'm gonnawait for like initially right?
Are you thinking, or is itgonna grow and then you just

(01:46:15):
wait and it doesn't?
No or you just know, like, howdo you know that it's not gonna
grow?

Speaker 3 (01:46:20):
I mean, there's still like a hardness to it like you
can tell there's blood flow ohyeah, you already know it looks
like a hardness to it, like youcan tell there's blood flow.
Oh yeah, you already know itlooks like a clitoris.

Speaker 1 (01:46:29):
You already know A hard clitoris, uh-huh.

Speaker 3 (01:46:32):
Kind of yeah, how would I know?

Speaker 4 (01:46:32):
Don't ask me how I know.

Speaker 5 (01:46:33):
Yeah, you know that it's reached its, so it's not
limp.

Speaker 1 (01:46:39):
So it's just like, yeah, but it's just very small
and erect.
Very small, yeah, and that'salways, honestly, that's always
a thought in your mind, nomatter what, whether you've seen
it or not.
You're always like, oh, is hegoing to have one?
Because I think like it's moreabnormal to have one.

Speaker 4 (01:46:56):
Abnormal to have what To have a micropenis Like.
I think that's an anomaly.

Speaker 1 (01:46:59):
Okay, and so you're always just kind of wondering
like, oh, when is this going tohappen?
Like, I feel like it's going tohappen at some point.

Speaker 3 (01:47:04):
so there's always a thought in your mind I wonder
how big you're really interestedin these micro penises.
So what's?
Why are you so interested inthe micro penises?
Because I think the audiencewould be very.

Speaker 1 (01:47:14):
Oh yeah, I think it's , and I also think so you I know
a lot of women who would sayhell the fuck, fuck, no, I don't
care how rich he is, I wouldnever.
I think that's the more commonresponse.

Speaker 3 (01:47:29):
I think I'm just not like that.
Every $10 million makes hisinch, his dick bigger, at least
half an inch.

Speaker 2 (01:47:36):
What's more unattractive?
A micro penis or a micro bankaccount.

Speaker 1 (01:47:43):
For me.
Look, I need someone who didn'thave a job for six months.

Speaker 4 (01:47:47):
Okay, he had a great dick, so do you think zach is
good at reading people?

Speaker 3 (01:48:02):
I think zach is good at reading certain aspects of
certain things do you think zachis good at reading people?

Speaker 4 (01:48:10):
I haven't been.
He loves to say he's good atreading people actually to that,
to that what you said.
What was your first impressionof our friend group when you
because, because I think and youweren't there initially when
they showed up I was?

Speaker 1 (01:48:22):
I was so impressed and I've always constantly been
impressed by the group that youguys really yes because I've had
, up until I met you guys, I hadlost all hope on la um and I've
been here for over five yearsand I was just so disappointed
in the people that I was um likecontinuously meeting and the
content of like theirconversations and the energy
that they curated amongst theirgroups, like no, but hanging out

(01:48:47):
with you guys and finally beingexposed to people that are like
just really good people, itfeels really good.

Speaker 4 (01:48:52):
Thank you, I appreciate it.
Well, thank you guys.
Final question goes to you.
Actually, it'll go to you too,but this is.
This is the.

Speaker 3 (01:48:59):
I love the fifth final question Cause.

Speaker 4 (01:49:03):
I forgot this one and one, and this is this is an
important one.
You're on a boat in the middleof the ocean, okay, um, with you
your wife and one of your kids,okay, okay, you could pick a
kid and, um, both of them fallinto the water, okay, and you
can only save one, the kid.

Speaker 1 (01:49:24):
No questions asked no , no hesitation why, we've lived
our lives it doesn't matter,the kid can't.
The kid can't keep creatingwhat do you mean?

Speaker 3 (01:49:34):
your wife can get pregnant again, have another kid
yeah, but the kid has a wholelife ahead of him.
It's like the whole reason forprocreation is does it, though
does that?

Speaker 1 (01:49:41):
how do you know?
That's my purpose in life ishow do you know your kid has a
whole life?
How do you know, though, what,if?
What if you say what if you letyour wife die and then you save
the kid, and then it dies 30seconds later?
Now you lost both people whatif like?

Speaker 3 (01:49:55):
what if like?
There's like a whole, I meanit's just a hopeful assumption
yeah, like, but I mean, to methe children are the single most
important thing your wife isgiving birth.
Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:50:05):
And how can?

Speaker 3 (01:50:09):
I frame this.
I think in that situation I'dprobably pick the wife, the wife
okay, Because.
I haven't met the child yet.

Speaker 1 (01:50:13):
Okay, Okay fair.
Fair, I get it.

Speaker 3 (01:50:16):
But the child's already, like, has a whole life
ahead of him or her or whatever.
So I would, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:50:22):
Okay, do you think, what decision do you think your
wife would want you to make?

Speaker 3 (01:50:26):
What happened?

Speaker 1 (01:50:27):
What decision do you think your wife would want you
to make?

Speaker 3 (01:50:28):
I think she would choose a child.

Speaker 1 (01:50:30):
Great, best decision yeah.
I think most parents wouldchoose their children over their
responses?

Speaker 3 (01:50:36):
Yeah, that's good.
I think it's just like.
I think it's 75%.

Speaker 4 (01:50:39):
Right, what would you ?
You choose your husband or oryour kid?

Speaker 1 (01:50:45):
I think my kid interesting I think I don't know
, I don't have a kid, like Idon't know.

Speaker 4 (01:50:49):
Yeah, I mean, most women would choose their child
and some men would choose theirwife.

Speaker 1 (01:50:54):
But I just think when I think, yeah, some people
would choose their spouse 100children is like an extension of
you.

Speaker 3 (01:51:01):
It's like your arm right?

Speaker 1 (01:51:02):
I don't.
I don't understand that at all,like I don't have once you have
a child, like it's like yourarm Right.
I don't understand that at all,like I don't have the
comprehension Once you have achild.

Speaker 3 (01:51:06):
I'm ignorant to that.

Speaker 4 (01:51:06):
It is like that child is you I know you're suggesting
that, that you know you kind ofget this love and all this
stuff.
There is no scenario I wouldchoose my child, regardless of
how old that child is.
Hold on, I would 100% choose mywife.

Speaker 3 (01:51:21):
That's because you haven't had children yet.
I understand you would makethat argument and the moment you
have your child and you grow upwith your child.
I think that's valid.

Speaker 1 (01:51:28):
That's why I'm saying that your brain just kind of
like I'm on the same page as you, but we don't have kids.
It just kind of your brainchemistry completely changes.

Speaker 3 (01:51:35):
You fall in love with your child more than anything
in the world.

Speaker 4 (01:51:39):
It is.
I think both things can be trueat the same time.
I could fall in love with mychild, sure, a hundred percent,
and I'm sure I would.

Speaker 3 (01:51:46):
But I also think that I still would love my wife more
than I do so I will ask youthis question in 10 years, once
you have a child Sure, and thenwe'll see what that answer is
yeah, valid A hundred percent.

Speaker 2 (01:51:57):
What would you do?
See, I don the same boat likeeverybody tells me yeah, once
you have a child you look right,we don't have kids.
I just like we have no idea,because our brains are pre-kid
your brain literally changes itdoes, it's like and I have heard
that from like multiple people,but it's like really hard to
say because also, like you, haveto say that okay, I have.

Speaker 1 (01:52:15):
I have a question.
I have a remix on this question.
What if your kid is a serialkiller?

Speaker 2 (01:52:19):
I would save the wife for sure I would save the wife,
for sure I would save the wife.

Speaker 3 (01:52:23):
Yeah, yeah, fuck that kid, fuck him.

Speaker 2 (01:52:27):
All right, he's going to bring dishonor to our name
Like like, no, no you should ask.

Speaker 3 (01:52:30):
You should ask a more difficult question what if he's
?
Like your worst child.
That's a troublemaker, and youfucking really love your wife.
That's a much harder question.

Speaker 2 (01:52:45):
I'm like or like, would you rather have your kid?
Okay, all right, killer, whatwould you rather?

Speaker 3 (01:52:48):
have your kid be gay or a serial killer gay jesus.
Yeah right, what the fuck iswrong with being gay?

Speaker 2 (01:52:51):
question is no asking okay, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:52:55):
I don't know we're gonna rip you to shreds.

Speaker 3 (01:52:58):
I mean, I'd rather not have my children be gay.
Why?
But why yeah?
Because I want offspring.

Speaker 1 (01:53:04):
You can have offspring now.

Speaker 3 (01:53:05):
It's fucking the modern world yeah, but that is
like a lot more work, a lot moretime so more expensive and
there's dna that can likethere's more adoption.

Speaker 1 (01:53:13):
I'd rather have a more traditional type mother
nature is gay, but but I have.
I actually have a sibling.
That's gay, she's right andI've been trying to convince her
to have her wife to havechildren I think honestly,
lesbians especially got it goodbecause they get to go and pick
out the best dna possible to mixwith theirs.

Speaker 3 (01:53:32):
I've suggested to use my dna because it's like almost
like my sisters on her so thatthey have a child.

Speaker 1 (01:53:38):
That's like no, they could literally go choose the
best of the best.

Speaker 3 (01:53:41):
Yeah, yeah, but not genius stallion a person that's
like pretty much a genetic matchto the sister right for what?

Speaker 1 (01:53:49):
but you could.
There could be a geniusstallion.
That's a genetic match to thesister or you want a genius
stallion or do you want someone?
That's genetically exactly likeyour spouse um, I would want a
genius stallion.

Speaker 2 (01:54:01):
I'm not big on genetics like that or like like
a sentimental, I don't know whyy'all are so concerned about
genetics.
It's a big fucking deal.
My legacy you're gonna be dead.
Who gives a fuck?

Speaker 1 (01:54:11):
see, I completely agree.
I completely agree.
But if you are reproducing, Idon't know, I think they do dude
.

Speaker 3 (01:54:18):
I asked women like play the game family history of
cancer, how they died, like howlong they live.
To me it's a big fucking deal.
I want to.
If I reproduce, I want toreproduce women that have good
genetics.
No cancer, long lives.

Speaker 1 (01:54:29):
Because then your kid is going to be set up in life.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:54:32):
And they have physical, great physical traits,
great mental traits.
It's very important.

Speaker 1 (01:54:36):
But also nothing matters and we're all going to
die that too.

Speaker 3 (01:54:40):
At the end of the and you're right At the end of
everything.

Speaker 2 (01:54:43):
It's nothing Like I had someone once tell me I
wouldn't want to date a girlwho's got work done because even
if she looks really hot rightnow, she doesn't have good
genetics because she had to getwork done to look hot.
But I'm like, but if she lookshot now, who cares?

Speaker 3 (01:54:56):
I know a lot of women that had work done.

Speaker 2 (01:54:59):
I mean that too.
But I'm saying I like the girlwith small teeth, I'm like you
look fucking great.

Speaker 3 (01:55:04):
And then he's like you, look fat now.

Speaker 2 (01:55:06):
I'm saying I don't care either way.

Speaker 3 (01:55:08):
Sometimes women get breast implants and they look
fat Really.

Speaker 2 (01:55:12):
Oh yes, dude, this one girl.
What, yes?
This chick could breastfeed anentire neighborhood of children.

Speaker 1 (01:55:17):
I'm like bitch With her implants.

Speaker 2 (01:55:19):
You implants well with the milk but were they real
?
Oh, oh, yes, by the way thatbaby is drinking whole.
Were they real breast milk?

Speaker 3 (01:55:29):
have you guys had breast milk?
It's the best fucking shit inthe world claudia claudia would
never dude.
Breast milk is the best fuckingshit.
It's like sugar, water and likelet's say, let's say you're,
you're fucking your wife andlet's make claudia drink it why?
What is it?
What is this actually?
I have like he's terrified ofbreast milk I have frozen breast

(01:55:49):
milk in my fridge.

Speaker 1 (01:55:50):
Let's do it.
I can bring it.
Let's make breast milk.
It's great for the head, it'sprobably so good for you, it's
so fun do you think, you thinkan alpha would drink breast milk
or beta would not like it.
I think both are gonna.

Speaker 3 (01:56:04):
I think an alpha doesn't give a shit and just
will go with whatever exactly itis so.

Speaker 4 (01:56:10):
So I have a story.

Speaker 3 (01:56:11):
So first, wife, we're in vegas, she's pumping.
Right, you pump your breastsbecause we're in vegas, so the
kids are home, so we're likegoing to party, so she's like
pumping.
She put the stuff in the fridgeso she got out for the kids and
had a bunch of friends, had abunch of fucking friends and I'm
like are you guys men or areyou guys pussies?
And of course I'm instigatingthem.
I'm like, all right, so I put abunch of shot glasses.

Speaker 1 (01:56:34):
I'm like, and then I grab my wife's breast milk and
report.

Speaker 3 (01:56:38):
I'm like all right, guys, who's going to do a shot
of breast milk?
Oh, everyone's like ah and like.
I literally instigated all myfriends to do it, so they all
took it and they're like and Ihad same same reaction from
everyone.

Speaker 4 (01:56:56):
Wow, that's actually pretty I really don't understand
why people are scared of breastmilk, why it's just.
It's kind of crazy to me yeah,that's so weird it's great, I
have a question for y'all, doy'all, do y'all ever wonder if
breastfeeding is like sexual

Speaker 3 (01:57:10):
it is I.
I love to fuck women whilethey're spraying.
No, no, no, not that, not that,not that.

Speaker 1 (01:57:14):
If if when a baby is sucking on a nipple, if it turns
the mom on.
Oh, by the baby?

Speaker 3 (01:57:21):
I don't think so I think I've read.

Speaker 1 (01:57:23):
I've read some reddit , I think it does for some women
, yeah, and they're like I feelso wrong, like I don't know what
to do, because it's liketurning me on.
This is my kid wait, so they'reattracted to their kid not
attracted because yeah, like theyeah, this is a conscious
response, I suppose.

Speaker 2 (01:57:38):
Like physically it's the same as like like I suck on
girls titties and like they getturned on right, yeah, imagine
sucking the girl's titties andthen she's squirting some milk
in your mouth hot, I would loveto.

Speaker 1 (01:57:47):
That sounds amazing, I would love to.

Speaker 3 (01:57:51):
I would fucking love that and they're like squirting
the milk and you're squirting inthe face with that shit are you
like mommy?

Speaker 1 (01:57:57):
more milky.
Yes, just like that zach, justlike, like.

Speaker 3 (01:58:00):
Sometimes they're like it's like weird to me.
I don't yeah like sometimesthey're like.

Speaker 2 (01:58:04):
It's like weird to me .

Speaker 1 (01:58:04):
I don't know, you know, sometimes they're like on
top of me.

Speaker 4 (01:58:06):
You're like Wah, you're riding.
Wah, andy, put your feet down,they're just squirting all over
the face and I'm just like thisis hot.

Speaker 3 (01:58:15):
Yeah, do you ever put it in a bottle?
It's like a facial.
No girl's face yeah, I mean,it's like she's coming on my
face with her I do like comingon girls faces.
Yeah, it's great okay, by theway, great for the skin breast
milk I actually, we actually puther breast milk and we turn
into a cream and I use it tomoisturize amazing.

Speaker 4 (01:58:34):
Bring us something.

Speaker 3 (01:58:35):
Thank you so much for coming on this show sponsored
by breast the best podcastyou've ever had fuck you guys
the longest I've ever done twoand a half hours ending at three
three, three, let's cut it allright and um, we'll see you
later.

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