When Life Hands You Chaos, Build an Empire Ft. Emily - Ep.108 - Unattainable Podcast Show

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
My bad girl name is Amelia Escobar, because I stayed
at Pablo Escobar's privatemansion in Tulum.
Tales is the most importantskill Hustler.
I'm not dealing with littlefuckboys, I'm dealing with big
boys.

Speaker 2 (00:16):
How do you pay this bill?
Why do girls fall for thesedudes?

Speaker 1 (00:19):
I don't understand.
It's complicated.
This person is not nice to me.
I'm like, oh shit, I just seethe good in people.
I honestly don't care.
I haven't obeyed by the rules,since I was fucking born as a
parent.
If you shelter your kid toomuch, they're gonna end up like

(00:41):
that.
I'm gonna fuck up.
I'm gonna give them the dumbthat.
I've been a fuck up.
I've done the dumb shit.
I regret whatever, but I'vealso been super successful for
my situation that I was given,and so to raise a woman is the
coolest thing I've ever done.
I am very dominant, Especiallywhen it comes to like

(01:02):
personality.

Speaker 2 (01:03):
I think I like run vomit on every person I meet,
being in this industry, wherethat's your job.

Speaker 1 (01:10):
It's too much.
My sister and brother, we allgot separated when we were kids.
We got taken away from ourmama's kids.

Speaker 2 (01:17):
You can't say if you're a fan of the group?

Speaker 1 (01:22):
Yeah, it was out of the cycle.

Speaker 2 (01:27):
He didn't give me an NDA.
We were in Vegas one time andshe's like let's go shopping.
And she would just come up tome with like a pair of
Louboutins and I'm like, oh mygod, these are so cute.
You said Vegas, what okay?
I should be like welcome toUndertainable.

(01:48):
Glad to have you with us.
I'm your host, zach Evans, andfirst of all, thank you to all
of our listeners.
We've been getting a ton ofexplosive growth and engagement
over the last few weeks andwe've got to thank you guys for
that.
Today we've got a special gueston the show.
This is Emily.
Emily, why don't you go aheadand introduce yourself to the
audience?
Let's do your name what you doand your star sign.

Speaker 1 (02:08):
My name is Emily Cox.
I do OnlyFans and content trips, basically, and I'm a
Sagittarius.

Speaker 2 (02:20):
I've had two close relationships with Sagittarius.

Speaker 1 (02:23):
Oh God.

Speaker 2 (02:25):
You guys are very fun , but not good for my mental
health.
Let's just put it like that.

Speaker 1 (02:32):
Oh God.

Speaker 2 (02:33):
You guys cost me a lot of money in therapy.
Is what I'm trying to say.

Speaker 1 (02:36):
Oh, okay, well, here's the thing.
So if I was born two hourslater, I would have been a
Capricorn.
Okay.
So I've been told that I'm likea, I'm a cusp, right, I'm not
like gonna say I'm super intoall the astrology, but I have
gotten into a little bit becauseI am from oregon and everybody

(02:58):
the first thing they ask you iswhat's your sign?

Speaker 2 (03:00):
your hair looks like you'd be super into signs and
manifestation and all that stuff.
No, my hair is just crazy oh,okay, okay matches my
personality crazy a little bitby the way, don't get me wrong,
I used to be a very toxicindividual back in my villain
era.

Speaker 1 (03:18):
Yeah yeah, we all have a villain.
Now I'm very shy and romantic,but okay back in my fuckboy days
I don't think anybody reallyoutgrows the fuckboy days that
too much.
No, no, it's always in you?

Speaker 2 (03:30):
no, I'm a gentleman okay, okay okay, but, uh, but.
But to be fair, I was always aprofessional fuckboy, not like
these amateur gen z fuckboys,you guys running around nowadays
well, I am 27, so I'm not likesuper young, but I'm also like
what?

Speaker 1 (03:47):
what generation am I?
Am I like?

Speaker 2 (03:50):
you're like close, you're like on the cusp of
millennial and gen z, I'm notsure I think that, like 95,
might be millennial maybe, andI'm what are you, I'm 96 but I'm
literally 11 days before 97you're on the cusp of everything
.

Speaker 1 (04:05):
I'm on the cusp of everything I'm indecisive too,
like I'm, I am extremelyindecisive, so it just makes
sense now that I talk about ityeah, this new generation is
just especially.

Speaker 2 (04:18):
I actually feel sorry for girls.
This new generation of dudes islike they have like beds that
touch two walls and I'm like doyou not know what a nightstand
is like?
How are you guys that touch twowalls?

Speaker 1 (04:24):
and I'm like do you not know what a?

Speaker 2 (04:25):
nightstand is like how are you guys still dating
these losers?

Speaker 1 (04:28):
I don't understand you know, I honestly haven't
really like dated a whole lotreally.
I've been only in seriousrelationships since I was like
literally 13, interesting, yeah.
So like I have, like I used togo party at frats and stuff,
maybe when I was like 17 to 19,but like I haven't like

(04:52):
witnessed like any like fuck boyshit, like recently you somehow
avoided it yeah, yeah, I mean Iwill say I have like an ex who
was a fuckboy, but like Ihaven't dealt with it in a long
time, so I don't see that shit.
I'm like I kind of like to likedo my own thing in a sense.

(05:14):
Like I don't come to LA oftenyou know what I mean Like I dip
in and out when I have, when Ican, you know, do my thing.
But yeah, I don't experiencefuckboys too often crazy I guess
like only fans, yeah, but likeI don't see that shit really too
much oh yeah, only fans ismostly sims that you're dealing

(05:36):
with, right?
Yeah, I mean, I'm not dealingwith little like fuckboys, I'm
dealing with rich boys have youever dated, uh, someone who you
met through your only fanssubscribers no, I mean I dated
somebody who hit me up oninstagram, but like that's
really it.
I've only had a fewrelationships, so interesting.

Speaker 2 (06:00):
Okay, I want to dive into that okay, okay, okay well
what's the oldest and youngestyou've dated relative to your
age at the time?

Speaker 1 (06:09):
I think I've only ever dated guys relatively close
to my age.

Speaker 2 (06:14):
That surprises me.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (06:16):
I mean I have always been in a relationship.
I've never really been single,which is kind of interesting.
I mean I have been, but it wasalways like I'm still involved
with the ex or like On and off.
Yeah, like the toxic bullshitthat happens after you break up.
You're like, oh, you're notallowed to like be with anybody
else, but like we're single.

(06:39):
You know what I mean?
Yeah, but wait, where were wegoing with that?

Speaker 2 (06:45):
so so.
So with with it's interestinghave you had trouble dating
because you do only fans?
Has that like led to like?
Um has it been harder?
Has our guys judgmental?
Are they trying to get you tostop?

Speaker 1 (07:01):
so, like I said, I've only ever been in long-term
relationships, so, um, there'sonly like a few examples that I
have.
I've um only had an, only fans,only, only, only um.
I've only had one boyfriend eversince and so I've only had to

(07:31):
deal with two guys, but they'relike all about it until, like,
the ex is like, oh, you're likeyou know, trying to bag on me,
like oh, you do.
Only fans like blah, blah, blahand I'm like dude, you were a
part of it, come on, like youwere all about it when I was
paying all your bills oh, youpaid his bill.

Speaker 2 (07:50):
Why do girls fall for these dudes?

Speaker 1 (07:51):
I don't understand oh , it's complicated is it like
you're, is it the?
I'm trying to change him kindof mentality I am just like such
a nurturing type of personyou're a fixer.
Yeah, I see and like he hadissues.
So I was like, okay, well, youpertain to these things and then
like I'll take care of it on myend and like I'll make it work

(08:14):
to like you know, like justbeing a good person because I am
such like an empath, you knowwhat I mean like I have so much
sympathy for people almost toomuch.
I'm like really kind and liketoo nice and sometimes like my
friends will be like dude stopthis person is like not nice to

(08:36):
you and I'm like oh shit, I justsee the good in people and is
the thought like I'm going tochange him.

Speaker 2 (08:43):
Or is the thought I don't care he's like this, but
just I'm going to change him.
Or is the thought I don't carehe's like this, but just I'm
attracted to him and everythingelse this specific person.

Speaker 1 (08:53):
he became an alcoholic, okay, and he was a
professional bmx writer and sohe was like sponsored by the
time he was 12 and um, now he's28, I get like 27, 28 and uh,

(09:14):
anyways he's.
He was known to be the guy whowould just like send anything
you know what I mean like hewould send the craziest shit
that nobody else would, and hehas traumatic brain problems,
like brain injury.
He, um, he has like a reallylike messed up head, and so when

(09:34):
I found that out, I was likeyou know, we were together and
it was like, oh shit, like I hadso much sympathy for him and so
I was like I will help, liketake care of whatever I got to
do, like I'll pay for everythingI like paid for like all the
like medical shit, because hewas like you know, he had issues

(09:54):
, and so I was like I just hadso much sympathy for that.
I don't know.
I'm like I'm a nurturing person.

Speaker 2 (10:00):
You're a fixer.
Yeah, yeah, it's a thing.
Yeah, person you're a fixer.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's a thing.
Yeah, well, I mean, yeah,that's just how I grew up.
I see, yeah, and being a fixeris that something you're trying
to not do as much, because yousee like, oh, I need to set
boundaries, or you're like, no,that's my role, I'm gonna lean
into it and just fix more people.

Speaker 1 (10:23):
I have had to cut myself off a little bit because
I was getting like too deep intoit, like this is kind of funny.
But like I would, um, I wouldmeet like I live in, uh, eugene
oregon.
It's like, um, one of thenumber one homeless population

(10:43):
in the entire country, percapita.
Okay, and so I would like meetlike women who had like kids in
their van and I'd be like, oh myGod, like I'm going to like
make a post and like I'm goingto find a bunch of clothes for
your kids and I'm going to likeyou know, help you find like an
apartment and shit.

(11:06):
You know, like I had to cutmyself off because people close
to me were like dude, quit,being like you're not like a
charity person.
You know like, quit, take careof yourself.
I've just always taken care ofeverybody my entire life.
I've never been taken care ofnecessarily until like I mean,
recently I have I've been in agood relationship and it's like

(11:29):
nice because like I am takencare of in a sense, not like
financially or like any of thatshit, but just like like my, my
person like he's stable he'sstable, he understands me and we
like, just like, have like avery like good thing going.
It's cool.
But getting back to all of that, yeah, I have an issue.

Speaker 2 (11:54):
So let me ask you this Now that you're in a stable
relationship, is there any partof you that misses the drama
and the ups and downs and thefun excitement of the more toxic
relationships that you've hadin your past?

Speaker 1 (12:16):
I will say sometimes I like stand still and I'm just
like when is it coming?
Like when is the storm gonnafucking hit?
Like, like what the fuck?
Everything is too good rightnow, like I'm just expecting you
look skeptical yeah, I'm likeno, something's literally about

(12:38):
to hit the fucking floor, likeyou know what I mean.
And yeah, I going back to that.
What did you say?
What was your question again?

Speaker 2 (12:50):
do you?
Do you miss the?

Speaker 1 (12:52):
excitement, the excitement.
No, I don't okay.
It was.
It caused so much anxiety.
You know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (12:59):
I don't miss that shit the reason I asked is okay.
So I started off my life as thegood little nice guy, simp, who
follows the rules and is polite, because my parents grew up
were very religious and, like,sheltered me and everything
right oh shit.
And then I got friend zoned,and friend zoned, and friend
zoned and cheated on and you'refrom hey, can you introduce?

(13:20):
me to your friend, all this shit.
Right then it became thebiggest asshole, sociopath,
narcissist, fuck boy on theplanet.
Right and fuck this.
I'm gonna fuck as many girlsuntil I fill the inner void and
fucking get the validation thatI need from girls right and now
I kind of like matured from that.
I'm kind of like in this thirdstage of the, like you know,

(13:41):
caterpillar, cocoon, butterflykind of stage.
But I also do recognize thatthere were aspects of my fuckboy
phase that you need inrelationships, because if I
don't have those aspects, likelike girls will say zach would
say like zach, he's such a greatguy.
Any anybody would be lucky tohave him, but not me.

(14:02):
But any other person would belucky to have him, but not me,
but any other person would belucky to have them.

Speaker 1 (14:07):
Do you know what I mean?
Yeah, yeah, I think it's funnybecause, like you're from
Wisconsin, it just like makessense.
You know, like, when you saidthe like, the whole religious,
like that's just what I picture,like you know, like, what am I
trying to say?

Speaker 2 (14:26):
say I mean that's the culture down there, it's yeah,
like midwest vibes, like, oh,midwest vibes they need to get
in.
Let me like let them in, let mebreak in my car and like give
them some space so they can getin when la it's like it's
actually funny, this bitch dudemy parent my parents came and
visited me one time and my dad'slike waiting for somebody to

(14:48):
let him in on the freeway andI'm like dad, they're not going
to let you in, you just have tofucking go and be like what
bitch are going to crash into me.
Exactly Like that's the onlyway to survive out here.
It's just like it's a differentworld out here.

Speaker 1 (15:00):
The oh shit bar.

Speaker 2 (15:06):
I held on to it all day long today with her what's
the oh shit bar?

Speaker 1 (15:07):
oh, oh, she's a bad driver.
Yeah, no, she's not a baddriver, she's a great driver.
But I'm just not used to itbecause I live in small town,
oregon, you know what I meanlike we don't deal with this
kind of traffic aggressive, andso all day today I'm just like,
like no, I dated a girl once.

Speaker 2 (15:25):
It was the last 19 year old I dated.

Speaker 1 (15:27):
The last.

Speaker 2 (15:28):
It was the last one.
How old are you?
What do you think Careful?

Speaker 1 (15:33):
Guys are so hard.
Guys are so hard, you could belike 28.

Speaker 2 (15:42):
Or you could be.
We're going to be best friends.

Speaker 1 (15:43):
Or you could be 38.
I'm 32.
Okay, is I'm saying guys don'tage.

Speaker 2 (15:49):
But it's not really an insult if you get a guy's age
wrong.
It's like, as long as you'relike rich and funny, it doesn't
really matter.
You're fine, you'll be fine,life will go on, you know I
honestly don't prefer rich dudesyou, you prefer broke dudes?
No, don't lie to me.

Speaker 1 (16:06):
No, like I will say, one of the coolest dates I ever
went on.
Dude was filthy rich, I thinkhe told me his dad was like one
of the main investors or likepeople who do Coachella.
And he shows up and like afucking beater toyota camry

(16:27):
right and picks me up and I likeI lived on university of oregon
campus but I didn't go tocollege ever.
I just pretended like I was incollege go to the parties oh
yeah, fuck yeah.
And anyways he picked me up inthis like little toyota shitter
car and like took me on a dateand later we like kept hanging

(16:51):
out a little bit and then hepicked me up in like an audi r a
, but I don't know what the fuckit's called something all right
, yes nice ass car at the time,like I'm probably 21, and he was
like, yeah, I picked you up andthat because I like wanted to
see if you'd stick around.

(17:11):
He said like he had been so usedto like girls just using him
for his money back home that helike came to college and was
like I'm gonna pretend like I'mbroke I've heard that theory
before.

Speaker 2 (17:23):
Actually my co-host, if he was here, he said he says
the same thing.
Yeah, I'm like I don't let justlearn how to read people.
Like I can just read, I canread the second I meet somebody
oh, this girl's, like I can readit.

Speaker 1 (17:34):
I can just read people like I don't know like I
don't want to drive around in atoyota.
I'm just saying I would drive atoyota.
I mean, I drive you.

Speaker 2 (17:42):
Maybe you're a girl.

Speaker 1 (17:43):
I mean, I drive like a RAV4.
It's like an SUV, you know,it's nice, yeah, but if a guy
Okay.

Speaker 2 (17:51):
If a first date a guy is like you know you Pulls up
to your house in his Toyota,rolls on the window, beep, beep.
Come on babe.
Half price apps at Applebee'stonight.

Speaker 1 (18:02):
Let me bring out the coupon book, like you're just
like oh, that's hot I mean itcould be fun if, like, it wasn't
a first date and you like knewthe person, like let's go be
like crazy for a day, let's goto let me not get the vibe oh, I
gotta tell you my 19 year oldstory okay, okay

Speaker 2 (18:19):
okay, so I'm.
She almost got me arrested foranimal cruelty, but it wasn't my
fault, it was actually herfault because okay.
So so we're going to six flagsand my car's in the shop, so
we're taking her dad's brightred camaro, which he fucking
loves it's like his favorite car, right, which was bad for me
later on and we're driving thereand, first of all, she's a

(18:43):
horrible driver.
I was doing this.
The what safety bar?
You call it, the oh shit bar yoliterally oh shit handle we
didn't even have to go to sixflags.
Her driving was scarier than anyof the rollerblades, literally
oh fuck, she's one of those.
Yeah, it was bad it was bad andwe start um talking about you
know where's the craziest place.
You had sex before right andshe's like I've never had car

(19:05):
sex before and that's how I knewshe was rich and she came and
so she's like let's do it.
Six flags, we'll find a spot inthe parking lot.
We'll have car sex.
It'll be great, right.
And I'm like I'm 32.
I'm like car sex is forcriminals, teenagers and poor
people like I'm good, I'll havesex in my bed like an adult, you
know.
But she's like come on, come on, right, so we get there.

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And she's like come on, let'sdo it.
I'm like, babe, we have an hourand a half window to hit x2,
twisted classes and superman,because even with fast pass, if
you don't hit those in the firstcouple hours, it's going to be
like a two-hour wait.
Then you're sitting in linewith the peasants who fucking
pick their nose and play 20questions the past time me.

(19:51):
Are you one of those in line?
I'm a seal, I'm a lion, I'm alike.
Are you one like those?
Like the little?

Speaker 1 (20:00):
depends on how many drinks I've had.

Speaker 2 (20:02):
All right.

Speaker 1 (20:05):
No, here's the thing is.
I love getting like downrightratchet and like being a fucking
fool.
I will literally go to an LAparty with like the biggest
celebrities and like do thedumbest shit.
And people love me.

Speaker 2 (20:20):
Interesting.
I'm going to get back to thecelebrity thing in a second.

Speaker 1 (20:22):
Sorry, okay, we're getting off topic.

Speaker 2 (20:24):
So we get, we go to Six Flags, have a great time.
I'm an expert at Six Flags, Iknow what I'm doing.
I'm professional.

Speaker 1 (20:30):
Never been.

Speaker 2 (20:31):
We have a great time.
We go Really Never we have toall go to Six Flags sometime.
We come back to the car andshe's big into.
And it was dark out and forsome reason all the cars parked
in like a 30 foot radius, allhad left right and the
streetlight above our car wasout like it had gone out.

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And she's like Zach, theuniverse is manifesting us to
have car sex right now.
And she's like if we don't givethe universe what it wants, you
know it's going to give us badkarma.
And like I don't want to karma,obviously.
So I'm like, okay, well, Iguess we have to do it now.
So then we're, we're in thefront seat.
I took this stuffed animal thatI won and I put it in between my

(21:13):
rib cage and the center councilso I don't bruise my ribs like
last time.
And she's riding me and she hasher hand on the shifter and
she's like pushing off it forleverage.
And all of a sudden I just hearand I was like what was that?
She was like oh fuck, and shehad broken the shifter where it
would just like go back andforth but it wouldn't catch the

(21:35):
drive button.
So it was like stuck in parkand she's like my dad's gonna
kill me, blah, blah, blah.
So we tow the car, I uber homeand the next time I see her dad
she had told her dad with herfucking two brain cells rattling
around in her skull that my dogwas in the car and my dog must
have fucking broke the shifterwhile we're in six, six flags.

(21:57):
By the way, I don't even own adog.
This is a made-up tinkerbellfairy tale dog that she made up
for the story.
And now her dad's pissed at me,not because we had car sex, but
because he thinks that I I lefta dog in a hot car for eight
hours while we go party in sixflags, and he thinks I'm like
some animal abuser, like fuckingasshole boyfriend.
So after that I was like yeah,23 and above.

(22:22):
Above is my wheelhouse.

Speaker 1 (22:25):
Your two brain cells.
Dude that, I mean.
I would come up with an excuseright on the spot too.
What would be your?
Excuse.
You said on the spot no, likethat's some dumb shit that I
would come up with.
Oh gosh.
Because I'm like, you know,like.

Speaker 2 (22:47):
I don't know.
It sounds like you wouldn'tcome up with anything good on
the spot.

Speaker 1 (22:51):
No, it would be like oh okay, I get it, I get what
happened.
Uh-huh, like that's what wouldhappen.
Just because I'm just like so,like you know I'd be, I'd fumble
that.

Speaker 2 (23:05):
Interesting, but I want to get back to the
celebrity thing.
Oh dear God, how do you lookfor some level of status or
clout in terms of like the guysthat you date?

Speaker 1 (23:16):
No, absolutely not.
Because so far track recordthat I've heard is a BMX, pro
BMXer and guy whose dad whosedad owns coachella.

Speaker 2 (23:29):
Okay, this guy, by the way, I don't judge.

Speaker 1 (23:30):
Either way, no, this, this guy was like literally so
long ago.
This is like a hookup.
But um, no, no, the guy I'mdating currently, he is
literally like from small townoregon.
I was best friends with him notbest friends, but like really,
really good friends with him fora really long time before we
started dating and he got out ofthe friend zone.

Speaker 2 (23:51):
How did that happen?

Speaker 1 (23:53):
a drunk night.
It's kind of fucked up that'scrazy.
It's like actually reallyfucked up story what happened?
Let me just say this I'm notproud.

Speaker 2 (24:07):
Well, you ate his ass , or something.

Speaker 1 (24:09):
Spit it out.
No, even worse.
Are you ready for this?
Okay, so I knew this was goingto come up somehow.

Speaker 2 (24:21):
I bring out the best in people.

Speaker 1 (24:24):
You do.
Okay.
So I was roommates with thisgirl and I won't say her name,
but I was roommates with thisgirl and it was like a brief
period of time, like months, noteven like any sort of nowhere
near close to a year a part ofthe same friend group.
We were friends like I wouldn'tsay we were like super good

(24:46):
friends because, um, we neverlike really hung out one-on-one
with each other or anything, butwe were friends.
You know, she had come andvisited me after I moved away
back to Oregon on like a trip,knowing that I might move back,

(25:11):
and I went to like a birthdayparty of a friend's and, um, he
and I were such good friends.
I was like really fucked up andI was like I'm visiting town,
I'm staying with my dad, I don'twant to go home right now to my
dad, like drunk as fuck.
So, um, he was like, if youwant, you can just like crash in

(25:32):
my spot and I was like, okay,cool, and um, go back to the
spot and yeah, what's so bad?

Speaker 2 (25:44):
I'm waiting for the part that's like okay, but this
is this?

Speaker 1 (25:46):
is this guy?
Is that ex-roommate's boyfriend?
Oh, you never said that okayyeah sorry, sorry, sorry, I
missed that part so crucial Isee, I see sorry.
So yeah, it was my roommate'sboyfriend of like 10 years damn
crazy I fucked up I have aquestion for you.

Speaker 2 (26:07):
Oh god, be honest with me.
Did the fact that he was datingthis girl make you more
attracted to him?
Because there was this one guyin our high school right and he
was the biggest nerd.
Like no girls liked him, he wasawkward, whatever.
And then, for whatever, thelike star cheerleader from our

(26:28):
fucking high school, forwhatever reason, started dating
him.
They dated for like a month andthen she broke up with him.
Just because it was like thefact of like oh shit, he's
dating that girl, it was like Idon't know if it's a jealousy

(26:53):
thing or like a kind of like ohshit, you like see him in a
different light.

Speaker 1 (26:55):
once he's like dating somebody he might have a big
dick.
Like honestly, come on.

Speaker 2 (27:01):
So that's important, big dick.

Speaker 1 (27:05):
It's not, but he might be really good in bed.
You know, like something,something's going on there.
If he doesn't like come off toyou as a man like the guys can
like read other guys, I thinkreally good, right, and so like.
If he doesn't come off to youas anything special, then it
definitely has to do with beingin the sheets so your your thing
was wait, he just seems like anormal dude, but somehow he got

(27:29):
this girl.

Speaker 2 (27:30):
So he must be good and better something.

Speaker 1 (27:32):
He must have something's going on yeah, yeah,
it's even like the demeanor.
You know, like I have been withguys who are, like, not the
most attractive, but it's theirdemeanor, it's something about
them, like their personality,something that just is like
you're attracted to yes, youseem like you like fuckboys no,

(27:56):
I mean that's surprising to mebecause, like you're describing
what like girls who like likethe fuckboy, I just I, I know
the shits.

Speaker 2 (28:03):
I've been through it all I see, you can ruin it all
I've been there, done that.

Speaker 1 (28:07):
I'm 27.
That's not that old, but like,come on, I've been doing this
shit for like 10 years.
You know.
I've been on my own since I was14.
So, like I've been through theshits, I feel like I'm literally
like 35, 40.
Personality wise yeah, likejust the way that I am.

(28:28):
I've been through a lot of shit.
So it's like when it comes tolike comparing myself to other
people my age, sometimes it'slike kind of hard because I'm
like you know, you seem aninteresting mix of both.

Speaker 2 (28:43):
Yeah, you seem like you've been through it.
You're kind of like uh, youcome off as experienced in the,
in the fact that like you'relike yeah I've been through this
game before, like kind of like.
You know those movies wherethey're like hey, we need you
for one more job, and then likethe old guy's like can't do it,
and they're like you're the onlyone who can help us and he's

(29:05):
like all right, if that would ittake to not be like you seem
like that guy in the movies, youknow, but like the girl version
no, I am but then you also seemlike you like doing like
degenerate young person shit andjust like getting fucked up and
go like jump on some cars orsome shit you know, oh yeah
absolutely, oh yeah, absolutelyInteresting.

Speaker 1 (29:22):
I'm responsible, but like also fun.
Now.

Speaker 2 (29:29):
It's interesting.
So I was a promoter for sixmonths.
Oh God, I hated it Shit.
I mean it was fun Like you getlaid a lot Like what club.
We did Highlight Room, warwickand Nightingale.
Okay, and wait, what's thatplace for?

Speaker 1 (29:46):
that's, that's like.
I used to be one of the girlsthat was like that would come
out with us all the time yeah,yeah but?

Speaker 2 (29:53):
but the one thing that that teaches you.
It teaches you so much aboutlike human dynamics and the way
people are oh yeah it's likeit's like getting a phd in
communication skills.
Like I would remember so manynights where some girl I would
be like just trying to talk toher, literally just because I'm

(30:15):
like I need you to come out,because like we need more girls
to come out.
I'm just trying to be yourfriend, I'm not even trying to
hit on you, right, and she'd beblowing me off on her phone,
kind of of like ignoring me,right, okay, cool, no worries.
Then all of a sudden some othergirl's like throwing herself at
me.
30 minutes later, all of asudden that first girl is coming

(30:35):
up to me giving me vibes and Iwas like half an hour ago you
wanted nothing to do with me,but all of a sudden another
girl's on me All of a sudden.
You're like all into me, right,and it just kind of taught me
like yeah, this shit, like I Idon't make the rules, but this
is the rules of the game.
I I don't.
I wish I could be a good littlesimp and just run around with
my simp friends riding our birdscooters together and talking

(30:56):
about our feelings, but I can't,like it's just not the world I
live in, you know yeah, yeah, Imean like fuck dude that the
whole like you're even just likebringing up that you know.

Speaker 1 (31:05):
Yeah, yeah, I mean like fuck dude, the whole like
you even just like bringing upthat whole club situation, just
like threw me back so hard.

Speaker 2 (31:12):
Triggered you.

Speaker 1 (31:13):
Oh, it triggered me.
I like got stuck in my head alittle bit.
I was like whoa.

Speaker 2 (31:19):
But the clubs are fun every once in a while.

Speaker 1 (31:21):
I'm having flashbacks .
Get the sign, have some shotsoh god, I died, done some shit
what have you done?

Speaker 2 (31:34):
one I forgot about one oak.
That's been a thing in years.

Speaker 1 (31:38):
It triggered me it's just like whoa, you know, when
you see like the movies andthey're having flashbacks.

Speaker 2 (31:43):
It's like okay, so what's your?
What's your story?

Speaker 1 (31:48):
just basic, ass, la club rat hired by promoters,
lived in an apartment with oh,you did the model house then
yeah with, like I had, a modelhouse for a year.

Speaker 2 (31:59):
Yeah, that also taught me a lot about human
dynamics.

Speaker 1 (32:03):
So I was stuck in this house.
It's like an apartment threebedroom, two bathrooms.
It was awesome, right For likea 19 year old.
But like I was the onlyAmerican, Every girl was like
European, which is cool.

Speaker 2 (32:18):
It was really fun.
Russian Ukraine.

Speaker 1 (32:20):
Swedish, a lot of Sweden girls, norway.
So I met some of the coolestchicks this way.
That provided me with so muchopportunity later on.
But it was just like bunk bedsin rooms and it was like, yeah,
we get to stay at this place forfree, but we have to go out.
You know, three, four nights aweek from 9 pm to 2 am, and then

(32:44):
if you're sitting at you knowso-and-so's table and they
invite you to the after partyand you're 19, 20, 21 years old.
You're not gonna miss out onthat fucking after party.

Speaker 2 (32:57):
You know what I mean you're saying because of your
choice or because of the rules?

Speaker 1 (33:00):
because of the celebrity yeah, yeah yeah, the
person who got the table.
You know what I mean but that'syour choice yeah, but how are
you gonna say no when you'rethat young and you're like I'm
so fucking, like I'm from smalltown, oregon right.
Like I'm not from la, where,like people are used to this
kind of shit, like I'm just like, oh my god, like I saw this
person on a show and like oh mygod, you know.

(33:24):
So for me, I was just like goingout three times a week from 9
pm to 2 am and then after partythe after party until 4 am and
then after after until fucking10 11, and then I have open like
a casting call at like 11 amand I'm literally I look burnt

(33:46):
but I'm like 19 so I can pull ittogether right now.

Speaker 2 (33:49):
No, put some makeup on, you'll be fine, kind of
thing.

Speaker 1 (33:53):
I don't know how the fuck I'm still standing.
It was I ran back to Oregon,ran back.

Speaker 2 (34:02):
It was bizarre to me to see the like.
It was so crazy.
It was like a new model wouldmove into the house Right the
first day.
She's so thankful.
Thank you for this opportunity.
I can live for free.
All I have to do is go outthree nights a week and we
didn't even have bunk beds.
We had two girls in a room.
It was like it was a prettygood model house actually.
Now I'm thinking about it goodamenities, good people, and

(34:23):
within literally two weeks itwould be her trying to get out
of going out, showing up late.
Oh wait, I can't tonightbecause blah, blah, blah, blah.
And it was just so crazy how,like the girls would be unable
to like, put the pieces togetherin their head that like, hey,

(34:44):
like, rent is expensive, I don'thave to pay rent, so this is
how I'm paying my rent.
And it became a like why areyou making me go out?
And it became like, uh, what doyou mean?
Like that's the whole point.
Why do you think you're livingfor free in this house?
Because that's how you pay yourrent.
But it was like to see how fastthat people get entitled to
something because it's seen aslike free, even though it's not

(35:04):
free.
You're paying your rent, butyou're not seeing the money
going out of your bank account.
It was just an interesting likeexperience in like social
dynamics.

Speaker 1 (35:11):
Yeah, no, it's crazy because, also, I like didn't
really realize what was going onat the time.
You know like, no, no promoteractually even told me that they
were like making money off of meby like bringing me it was just
like a, you know, like assimple information as possible
wait, what did you think was thepurpose?

Speaker 2 (35:30):
just, he wanted to have hot chicks when he went out
.

Speaker 1 (35:32):
They like, they like for clout I had no idea, like
they just didn't give me anyinformation.
You know, like they're likewe're gonna hook you up with
this agency and blah, blah, blahand it was.
It was just crazy, even thefact that I even met promoters
in the first place.
I it's crazy.
Sorry, I'm full of stories youready for this?
Go for it.

(35:52):
So I'm like 19 years old, Ilive in eugene, oregon right,
university of oregon and hugefootball team yeah, huge, and so
I am cool jerseys too yeah,nike, all nike everything yeah,
uncle phil yeah, that's what wecall him phil knight

(36:14):
yeah.
So I am stumbling into a bar, Ilose all my friends and it's
like the end of the night, right, and I like look across the bar
and I see all these guys whoare just like really tall and
handsome, and I'm like drunk asfuck, you know, and I'm like I'm

(36:35):
gonna go, I'm gonna go talk tohim, fuck it, I'm gonna go
shoulder check one of them.
See if they say, sorry, I don'tknow.
And so I do it.
And the guy goes.
Yeah, I'm like, oh, my god, I'msorry, you know.
And he looks at me and he'slike, oh, hey, what's your name?
And he had an australian accentand I was like, oh, okay, like

(36:58):
I hit gold here, like I'm smalltown you know, eugene is not
that small, but it's small andso this guy's like I am
sponsored by Red Bull and I'mlike a professional athlete from
Australia and we are here on atour and we're gonna go.
We, we were like flown herefrom like with Red Bull to come

(37:21):
to a University of Oregonfootball game Ducks.
And so they came to a duck gameand then they were gonna go to
like a UC or like a um what wasit a?
Lakers game and then they weregonna like all this shit.
But anyways, at the bar when Imet him, he was like you're
super cool, like I'm gonna textyou in the morning and if you

(37:42):
want you can hop on the planeand come with us to la and
that's our next spot.
And I was like okay.
And so I literally hopped on ajet with these guys from eugene
to la coolest guys ever sofucking cool.

(38:04):
They're professional rugbyplayers, right, like what the
like as americans were, likerugby, you know but they're real
sport, but australians are justlike so cutthroat, and that's
my shit.

Speaker 2 (38:16):
Yeah, they're very much.
That's like our group chat,yeah, every time we talk.

Speaker 1 (38:21):
You'd be like huh, what'd you say?
I couldn't understand him.
He like we speak the samelanguage but, god damn, the
accent cannot be any different,you know, and we had so much fun
and anyways, I was 19 and dudewas like oh, like you know,
there in australia, I think,it's like the age is 18 or 19 to

(38:43):
drink, and he's like oh shit, Iforgot, like you have to be 21.
So he's like let me hit up apromoter.
And that's how I got in.
These promoters met me andthey're like who the fuck are
you?
I was like I'm emily,motherfucking cox and I blew
their fucking minds just becauseI'm like so, not your typical
la chick, you know like I'm veryfun and like original and not

(39:07):
like conforming to any cookiecutter what was that?
cookie cutter, yeah, yeah yeah,no, I'm myself too much
sometimes and uh, they loved meand that's how I ended up in la
being a little la club ratinteresting yeah, and I ran the

(39:27):
fuck back home.
I was like sayonara this is toocrazy for me interesting can.
Can't stop partying.

Speaker 2 (39:35):
Yeah, LA is it's like playing the video game on hard
mode.
It's like there's so much goingon.
There's like theoverstimulation Narcissists fuck
boys, sugar daddy scene onlyfans.
It's just like everything.

Speaker 1 (39:49):
Yeah, I'm magulated into one, so like I do all that.
But I do all that, but I do itwhile living like a normal way,
far away from all the shits youknow.
Yeah, and I I come to la often.
Like I, I travel quite a bitwith what I do, but I'm able to
go home for like a week or twoand just chill so tell me, how'd

(40:12):
you start the only fan stuff?

Speaker 2 (40:13):
how did that all come about?

Speaker 1 (40:16):
it's actually insane.
I was living in costa rica andI met this beautiful girl, right
, best vibe, like she'sliterally like an angel,
insanely beautiful, okay, and Iwas like how do you afford to
like just like travel so muchand like live this lifestyle?

(40:38):
And she was like I have anOnlyFans.
And I was like, okay, cool, butlike what do you do on there?
You know, like, because it waskind of new, like not new in a
sense, but it's like 2019, 2020,2021, actually, sorry, um,
anyways, I was new to that.
That's when I started wasbecause of her.

(40:59):
She convinced me and she wasjust like an angel and she was
like I'm working with OnlyFansto create more of like a diverse
platform so that there's, likeyou know, yoga instructors and
like chefs and then, like youknow, like vloggers and stuff.
So she was working directlywith only fans and like telling
me all these things and I waslike, well, shit, I've modeled

(41:21):
my entire life so I have likeliterally thousands and
thousands of albums like stacked, so if I started an only fans
like I wouldn't even have to doanything.
You already have the content Ihave everything to do anything.
You already have the content ofeverything back dating to 18,

(41:42):
you know, and I'm so it was yeah, that's how I got into it.
I see, I see her name was solay too, so lay, so lay I was
like, like, come on, what thefuck angel like sent from the
sky interesting, interestingyeah only fan.

Speaker 2 (41:56):
It's crazy, because if you would have asked me
before, only fan started.
Yeah, there's this website.
People pay to blah, blah, blahI'm like what do you mean
there's?
Free porn on the internet.
I don't understand.
Why would anybody pay for this?
Shit yeah and now I kind ofunderstand.
I'm like I get it.
Like some guys are like youknow, they're just.
Oh, I have a connection withthis girl.

(42:17):
I feel like I like her, shetalks to me, all this stuff.
It's like a personal connection.

Speaker 1 (42:21):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (42:22):
And I've dated two girls who have done OnlyFans and
it was interesting because,ironically, I thought guys would
be more judgmental, but guysweren't judgmental at all.
They were like, oh, you weredating OnlyFans, cool, cool, but

(42:42):
girls.
But guys weren't judgmental atall.
They were like oh, you weredating only fan school cool, but
girls were super judgmental.
Oh, girls are the worst, bro.
One time this girl went up tomy girlfriend and said something
along the lines of like, ohyeah, like that's nice that you
make all this money, but like Icould never do that because I'm
not a slut yeah, I have too muchrespect for myself.

Speaker 1 (42:54):
Blah, blah, blah blah .

Speaker 2 (42:56):
I was like first of all, you're a four.
Like you look?
You look like a bowling ballstacked on top of an exercise
ball, with two shoes at thebottom those only fans doesn't
want you like you have.
Even if you applied to onlyfans, they would reject you and
say sorry, we can't have you onthe platform.

Speaker 1 (43:10):
You know it's like crazy to me well, and here's the
thing is, like I I I keepbringing this up but like small
town, oregon, right, I went tolike small high schools and shit
People, these, like these girls.
I've been out of high schoolsince I was I dropped out as a
freshman.

Speaker 2 (43:27):
Oh damn.
Yeah, can you even do that.
I thought that was like illegalor something I thought you had
to at least like go through 18.

Speaker 1 (43:33):
I haven't obeyed by the rules since I was fucking
born.
So, anyways, like these girlsthat I went to high school with,
meaning I literally I completedlike freshman year, that's it.
And these girls I went to highschool with, they literally will
pay for my only fans to stalkme the girls will yes and it's

(43:53):
crazy because I hear about it tothis day I'm literally 27.
I mean I, how many years isthat?
13?

Speaker 2 (44:01):
since freshman year.
You're probably 14.
Yeah, I didn't go to school, soanyways, girl math, you can
just make up whatever number youwant you know I'm good at math,
but it's only like in, likeounces and pounds.
I'm not good at anything else Iunderstand exactly what you're
saying um anyways, do you everhave uh, guys from your high

(44:24):
school that like are like oh man, I always thought you were hot,
but like I want to see younaked, like that kind of thing.
Because my girlfriend at thetime that didans that was a lot
of her customers were like guysfrom her high school and I was
like really, you know, I haven'thad anybody like personally
from high school.

Speaker 1 (44:43):
tell me that they follow me on OnlyFans, I don't
think.
But I have had like friendsfrom high school who like didn't
speak to me when I was in highschool necessarily because they
were like too old and too cooland I was like kind of an
outcast.
Honestly, I was just like Ididn't really fuck with anybody
my age at that time.
I was like on my own and um, solike people will be like, oh,

(45:07):
like it's so cool that I went tohigh school with you.
We were like, you know, like webrag about how we went to high
school with you or some shit,and it like literally throws me
off because I'm like really,because none of you would talk
to me Quite frankly, all of youwould talk shit about me.
You made my life hell, so oh,now you want now you want
something.
I mean, we're all, we're allcool now.

Speaker 2 (45:28):
Now I'm hot and cool.
I moved to LA.

Speaker 1 (45:41):
I lifestyle.
Now you want to be friends withme.
It's funny because, like Idon't like I know that I'm like,
I I'm attractive and whatever,but like I don't like doing the
whole pregame shit.
You know, like I, I don't playinto all of it.
I like when people complimentme on like my, my looks or
something, I'll be like okay,but like, what about my
personality?
What do you have to say aboutthat?
You know, and like, when peoplelike do all that shit, I always
just come back on them, likeyou know, compliment me on my

(46:03):
like, personality or somethingyou know.
But um, yeah, times were toughas a fucking kid dude yeah, no I
got made fun of a ton of inhigh school.

Speaker 2 (46:14):
I was like the, the sheltered Christian fucking boy
that wears like cousinshand-me-downs and stuff.
Oh God, but I think it was good.
Yeah, I think we actually needmore bullying in schools
nowadays.
It's like we need more kidsthat like have some trauma.
These kids are too softnowadays.
They like go to therapy becauselike my girlfriend broke my
heart.
Wah, wah, wah.

(46:34):
Help me make it better.
It's like no, like get hurt inlife.

Speaker 1 (46:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (46:41):
And then fucking learn how to deal with your
emotions like a fucking man,Like and like deal with your
problems.

Speaker 1 (46:45):
No, when people are sheltered as kids, you know,
like as a parent, if you like,shelter your kid too much,
they're going to end up likethat, like they're going to be
like like oh, someone told me,no, oh, you know what I mean
yeah, I'm a mom oh, you're a momyeah, I have a kid, I have a
daughter and so when I became amom, I was like, holy shit, I'm

(47:13):
responsible for like raising ahuman.
Yeah, what the fuck me.
Are you sure my like, you know?
And then, um, as she's gottenolder and now she's like two,
she has like a personality, andI'm like he has a personality no
, she was an alien I see, yeah,I mean yeah she literally laid

(47:35):
on the floor like not, not onthe floor.
I shouldn't say that.

Speaker 2 (47:38):
She laid Cry, spit stuff all over the place.

Speaker 1 (47:40):
Yeah, she laid in a little cradle thing for months
and didn't fucking move, youknow, and it was like an alien.
And now she's like, mama, stop.
And I'm like, oh God, you looklike me.

Speaker 2 (47:59):
You talk like me.
You talk like me.
Holy shit, this is scary, butyou're responsible for a human
scary, you're like me, this isscary.

Speaker 1 (48:03):
Yeah like, oh, dear god, and she's gorgeous, she's
beautiful.
So it's like it's gonna comesooner or later I I'm on the
fence of kids.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (48:27):
Because?
So I went home to Wisconsin alittle while ago and I saw all
my friends and they all havekids and they're all married and
blah, blah, blah.
And they're like Zach, you'regoing to miss the boat, you're
32.
What are you doing?
You got to get married and havekids, right.
And so later in theconversation I asked him of them
because I'm like, let me,sherlock Holmes, figure out the
clues, do my research.
And I'm like what's like yourbest day, what's like your like
if you could wave a magic wand?
Your best day.
And he's like, yeah, my mom's ormy wife's mom takes the kids

(48:50):
for the day.
My wife goes off with hergirlfriends.
Just have the guys over playsome poker watch the game, drink
some beers, right.
And I'm like your best day,your greatest moment of
existence, I can do every singleday of my life, yeah.
And I'm like is it a good ideato have kids?

Speaker 1 (49:10):
I'm like I don't know that shit scares me I will say
that I thought the same thing,so like I did not plan on having
a kid at all at this time in mylife.
I have a two-year-old now, so Ijust moved to costa rica oh
shit, I didn't know that in 2020okay, and uh, no, 2021,

(49:34):
actually sorry.
And the beginning of 2021 and um, I had moved all my shit there,
literally got a house,everything, and I found out that
I was pregnant.
There's no flights back to theus and I'm in a catholic country

(49:54):
, you know like, where you haveno options and at this point in
my time, like I Wait.

Speaker 2 (49:58):
what do you mean?
There's no flights back to theUS.

Speaker 1 (50:00):
It was during COVID.

Speaker 2 (50:02):
Oh, so you got trapped in Costa Rica.

Speaker 1 (50:04):
Yeah, no way.
When I found out.

Speaker 2 (50:06):
Scoot your chair in a little bit.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (50:08):
So when I found out I was pregnant, I was already
nine weeks long.

Speaker 2 (50:17):
Because I was like partying super hard.
You know, yeah, I didn'tunderstand pregnancy.

Speaker 1 (50:19):
You don't know until, like, other than the period
thing, but yeah, but like whenyou're partying super hard, like
and also like I was takingbirth control.
That was like the type that youskip your period or whatever so
like and I just wasn't like, Iwasn't on top of it and um yeah,
I found out I was pregnant.
It was already nine weeks along.

Speaker 2 (50:36):
Crazy.

Speaker 1 (50:38):
In Costa Rica and I had just gotten a house right,
like literally just dropped likea whole put down on a house in
Costa Rica, new build,everything On the beach, and I
was so excited about it I justsaid it to my OnlyFans.
And then, yeah, found out, Iwas so excited about it, I just
started my OnlyFans and then, um, yeah, found out I was pregnant

(50:59):
and at first I was like reallyquestioning a lot of things
because I was just like, why me?
Why this situation?
You know, like, um, in Americayou're given a choice.
You know, like, if you're in abad I was in a bad relationship
at the time like I didn't wantto be with this guy, really like
we we had been going through alot of bad shit and anyways, I,

(51:23):
yeah, I was, I wasn't given achoice, but it was the best
possible situation in the entireworld because my daughter her
name's ozzy, she's fucking sick,she's got the personality of
like so many, so like too muchpersonality almost, and I just

(51:45):
look at her and I'm like, oh, mygod, you are gonna be something
so amazing because I'm raisingher right.
And that's where we get back tothis, like you being responsible
for raising a human or whatever.
Like it's cool you get to forma human and like I've been a
fuck up my whole life, you know,like I've done dumb shit, I

(52:07):
regret whatever, but I've alsobeen super successful for my
situation that I was given, andso to raise a woman is like,
fuck, the coolest thing I'veever done and like I just look
forward to like days in thefuture where we can have like

(52:28):
cool conversations.
But I also kind of dreaded alittle bit, like I'm scared.
I'm a little scared because Imean her, her father isn't in
her life at all.
Like he's, he's very gone inhis head and so my boyfriend has
raised her since she was eightmonths old.
It's kind of weird.
Never thought I'd be a part ofsome situation like this, but

(52:52):
here I am and I'm making themost of it does he feel weird
raising a kid that's not his own?
At first it was weird for theboth of us.
We had been good friends for somany years.
And then I got pregnant Me andmy daughter's father, biological

(53:15):
father we would go to his housemy current boyfriend's house.
We'd go to his house while Iwas pregnant and like I'd make
food for the boys, you know.

Speaker 2 (53:25):
Oh, so you started dating the new guy when you were
pregnant.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, oh,okay.

Speaker 1 (53:29):
No, like I was dating my daughter's father, tyler.
I was dating Tyler and we wouldgo over to my one of my best
friend, eric's house and I would, be like you know, making all
the boys food.
And then now I'm dating Ericand Eric is raising Tyler's
daughter so are Eric and Tylerfriends at one point they were

(53:51):
like they knew each otherbecause of me yeah, but like no,
not not friends at all I seewell, especially now, I'm sure
no, yeah, they think yeah I seeyeah, it's a really really bad,
you should have a reality showyou know what, if I had cameras
on me at all times, I'd probablybe in jail.

(54:11):
So not that I'm a bad mom, Ijust have fun yeah, I feel you,
what's your, what's yourcraziest?
only fan story I've got, sotoday was like top three.
I um, so I have this, this fan,um, I'm on this site, right and

(54:39):
um, he's like one of my toppeople and he has been for a
really long time and so he hadtold me he lives in Philadelphia
, right, and so he has.
Let me.
Let me backtrack for a second.
For some reason, when I startedgetting into this industry, I

(55:03):
attract findom.
Do you know what that is?
Guys who want to be dominatedfinancially dominated oh finance
.
Oh, findom, findom, findom yeah,I didn't even know what that
term was.

Speaker 2 (55:15):
Wait, that's the best guys just pay you a shit ton of
money to like turn themselveson right.

Speaker 1 (55:19):
No.

Speaker 2 (55:20):
I thought that's what it was.

Speaker 1 (55:22):
I mean kind of.
Like you have to be like yeah,give me money bitch, and then
he's like oh yes please Okayyeah, anything for you, yeah,
yeah, yeah, it's funny becauseI'm with an agency right and
like a small agency, a woman,small company, woman-owned
agency for OnlyFans and all that.
Okay, I have multiple differentthings, but it's funny because

(55:50):
my manager, the girl who runseverything she tells us each
girl attracts their own specifictype right and it's something
that nobody would have everfucking guessed.
Specific type right and it'ssomething that nobody would have
ever fucking guessed.
You know, one of my friends inthe same agency she's attracted
by, like, her audience is a lotof people who are in wheelchairs
interesting she's not in awheelchair, but some, for some

(56:11):
reason, like she just gets thisinflux of people who are like in
a wheelchair or like paraplegic.
And then for me it was Fyndhamand my manager had to tell me
one day she was like I'venoticed, like people who are
into Fyndham are really into you.
You give off the vibe.

Speaker 2 (56:28):
You have a dominant personality.

Speaker 1 (56:29):
And I was like what the fuck is Fyndham you know?
And she had to explain it to meand it took me months to get it
down, because I'm a nice person.
It's hard for me to tellsomeone oh, you're a bitch,
you're a fucking loser, give meall your money.

Speaker 2 (56:44):
I feel like that comes natural to you.

Speaker 1 (56:46):
It doesn't.

Speaker 2 (56:48):
You seem like the type you'd be like.

Speaker 1 (56:50):
I'm the sugar mama.
I'm the sugar mama.

Speaker 2 (56:53):
Call me mommy, bitch.
No, I'm the sugar mama, right?
Yeah, that's why it seems likeit would be.
Oh, I see what you're saying,but like you seem like you'd be
the dominant one in therelationship, like you'd want to
wear the pants and like, say myname bitch, like the simps call
you mommy when you peg themfrom behind, kind of thing.

Speaker 1 (57:09):
Oh, I could be into that.
I am into that sometimes, butI'm more.
I'm also into being like thesubmissive one too interesting
but I am very dominant,especially when it comes to like
personality.

Speaker 2 (57:22):
I think I like word vomit on every person I meet I
see tell them everything aboutmyself I mean you literally said
you met some australian dudebecause you fucking shoulder
checked him in the club yeah, Iwas like oh my god, you're hot I
see yeah and I ended up on aprivate jet to la and met some
club promoters that introducedme to my best friend, sarah,
eight years ago.

(57:42):
So boom okay but what happenedwith the uh uh, the fandom stuff
?

Speaker 1 (57:49):
okay, so the guy from atlanta.

Speaker 2 (57:51):
Where's this guy from philadelphia?

Speaker 1 (57:53):
philadelphia um, I wouldn't even I can't say his
username, but this guy, he is anold man and he's gross.
He loves it when I say thisabout him.
I'm such a nice person, whichis the most fucked up part about
this, but anyways, he's likecall me a loser, call me a bitch

(58:16):
, call me your pay pig.
I'm like, okay, whatever getsthe fucking bag.
Anyways, I've established likea client type of relationship
with this man on the internetfor like what?
Nine months, now six months,and his fantasy, his ultimate

(58:37):
fantasy, is being a fuckingweirdo on the beach staring at
me in my bikini with my friends,like just like me and my
friends laying out on a on ablanket on the beach and him
just like pacing back and forth,you guys yeah, just like
staring and us being like oldguy, fucking loser, you know.

(58:58):
And so he was like, basicallylike, if you come to la, like
I'll, I'll pay for your tickets,I'll pay for accommodations,
I'll pay for your hotel, samewith my fucking girl sarah, take
the bag anyways.
Um, he's like I will do, I willpay for all your accommodations

(59:21):
in exchange for you going on thebeach with your friends, right
and um, I'm gonna like be on thebeach and we're gonna arrange
it.
So, like you tell me whatyou're wearing, I'll tell you
what I'm wearing.
And then I'm gonna like paceback and forth for a couple
minutes and just like watch you,right, because, like this is
his fantasy, he's like seeinggirls on the beach in their
thong bikinis.
He's like, and I'm gonna handyou an envelope full of money

(59:44):
and walk away.
All it was.
I'm gonna walk up to you, I'mgonna hand you an envelope and
your friend for coming, anenvelope full of money, and
literally say hi and walk awayand then go spend more money
than I've ever spent on you, ononly fans, as soon as I get back
to my hotel room.

(01:00:04):
That's what happened today.

Speaker 2 (01:00:08):
That's crazy because the crazy part he could already
do, that he could just go to thebeach and hand out money to
girls in fucking philadelphiathere's no hot girls in
philadelphia he probably.

Speaker 1 (01:00:21):
He said he lives in philly.
I don't.
I've honestly never been to theeast coast, really besides
florida, but um, I thinkphiladelphia and I think amish
people maybe, I don't know.
He maybe this guy he's like ohmy god, I've only seen, he's
like call me old, tell me my,tell me about my old wife and
he's like I have a four inchdick.

(01:00:42):
Tell me how small my dick isand I'm like no, I've heard of
these guys because my girl, myex-girlfriend, who did only fans
.

Speaker 2 (01:00:50):
She told me all these stories about guys.
Yeah, tell me, you're gonnastep on my balls and blah, blah,
blah.
Like all this shit.
I'm like crazy to me I guess,because how I was brought up,
very like old school, so likevery like more like masculine,
like tendencies, but like Idon't know it's crazy I've heard
too, like the top ceos, a lotof big celebrities that have it

(01:01:12):
all, can fuck any girl they want.
They like this kind of shit,they like the girls, girls who
take control.

Speaker 1 (01:01:18):
I've like come in contact with like huge people,
huge people, and they theyreveal their identities to me
because it's like a kink to them, you know.
They're like I want you to knowwho I am.
This is like send me proof andeverything.
And then they're like do whatyou want with it.
You know what I mean and I'mjust like okay, well, I'm gonna

(01:01:40):
milk the fucking bag, you knowwhat I mean and I have like a
management now, and so thingsare a little different do you?

Speaker 2 (01:01:48):
okay, let me ask you this being in this industry,
where that's your job, is tomilk the fucking bag and by the
way, I don't judge you at allfor this.
I think if you're a guy andyou're falling for it, either
you want to be falling for it oryou have to learn your lesson.
One of the two.
And the reality is, if you'renot milking them for the bag,
somebody else is milking themfor the bag.

(01:02:08):
They're gonna get milked atsome point these people want it.
Yes, yes, I'm not just like butbut does it make, does any part
of make it difficult for you, inlike an actual relationship, to
kind of like see it as more asnot a transactional type of
thing?
You know what I mean, becausethe so.

(01:02:29):
So the first girl I dated whodidn't only fans, our
relationship was very like anormal relationship.
She just did only fans, right,and it is what it is.
The second girl I dated thatdid OnlyFans.
I told her very clearly fromthe start I'm not a sugar daddy,
I haven't done the sugar daddything.
But she would do things Like.
We were in Vegas one time andshe's like, let's go shopping

(01:02:52):
and she would just come up to mewith like a pair of Louboutins.
She'd be like, oh my God, theseare so cute.

Speaker 1 (01:02:57):
Can you say Vegas one more time.

Speaker 2 (01:02:59):
Why Say it?
Okay, whatever it's my accent,deal with it.
And she'd be like, oh my God,these are so cute.
And just pause, yeah, and justwait for me to say I'll get them
for you.
And I'm like, no, daddy, I'mnot gonna buy you louboutins on
a random wednesday in las vegas,like that's not who I am.
And it felt even though it wasuh, not, it wasn't like a sugar

(01:03:22):
daddy wish.
It felt like she was treatingit like a transactional
relationship.

Speaker 1 (01:03:27):
You know what I mean yeah, I mean, I think that like
girl some girls are just likethat, you know what I mean like
they're into the wholetransactional thing for me.
I separate the two okay I'venever been the type to have like
a sugar daddy.
I've always been the fuckingsugar mama.

(01:03:47):
And so I don't resonate.
That's why, like I don't fit inhere in la, it's hard for me to
get along with any girls at all.

Speaker 2 (01:03:58):
No, but that's all.
Girls in LA, every girl I meetin LA, everyone's a transplant.

Speaker 1 (01:04:03):
Nobody's from here.
But here's the thing is, I goto certain events.
I'm such a friendly person.
Hey, how are you?
What's your story?
Where are you from?
How was it growing up there?
I care, I want to hear what youhave to say, and I feel like a
lot of people I meet here arejust like like you're.

(01:04:24):
They ask you a question andyou're responding, and they
already have like something theywant to say you know what I
mean.
Like it's, it's, it's a one wayyou're waiting for.

Speaker 2 (01:04:33):
Oh yeah, I actually know robert dunning jr's nephew
yeah, and it's like just like Idon't care, I don't care.

Speaker 1 (01:04:41):
Yeah, come on, dude, like do do a cool party trick.
You know I love that.
You know like let's do someweird shit you want to hear some
crazy shit.

Speaker 2 (01:04:52):
Yeah, there's this girl, we so we do these trips
every year to palm springs andwe just get a big match and we
get like 30 of our friendstogether.
We get some randos not randos,but like friends of friends and
stuff like that.
So the girl comes and she'slike yeah, my party trick is I
can score it on command andwe're like in the hot tub at
like 4 am and she's like youwant to see it.

(01:05:13):
We're all like drunk and we'relike yeah, yeah.
So this guy is like one of ourfriends holds him like this and
she just like squirts on himlike in the hot tub and he's
just like, he's like like, helike loves it Because he's like
whatever, he's into thatwhatever.
But it was just like thecraziest shit.
I was like holy shit, shit.

(01:05:33):
But it was honestly like butyou need those people at the
party to make it like a party,you remember?

Speaker 1 (01:05:39):
that is.
You need people that, likecrazy motherfuckers in that hot
tub or that space, will alwaystalk about for the rest of their
life yeah, like if you have aparty, everybody's just like
normal and like just fuckinglike you know.

Speaker 2 (01:05:54):
Oh, yeah, you know, I just had like two parents
growing up and like I went tocollege and I just like have
this office job, it's like, yeah, you can have a fun party,
whatever, but like nobody'sgoing to remember, nobody's
going to talk about it.
We call it wrench theory.
We call it wrench theoryBecause, like you have to have
somebody who throws a wrenchinto things and makes the party
like something you're going toremember.

Speaker 1 (01:06:15):
That's me.

Speaker 2 (01:06:16):
I know I was going to say you'd be a great wrench.

Speaker 1 (01:06:18):
Oh yeah, I love to spice things up.
All right, you've got to comeparty with us.

Speaker 2 (01:06:22):
when you're in LA, let me know next time you're in
LA You've got to come party withus.

Speaker 1 (01:06:27):
So my thing lately, this is like my dirty little
secret that none of my friendsknow, but now I'm exposing
myself now.
But now I'm exposing myself solike I live in a small town,
it's like a bunch of friends,right like hometown type friends
, and whenever I have partieswith them, or I go to like a
party, or like I go to like anevent with all my people, even

(01:06:48):
like when I come to la, I go tothis.
I have like a huge like tubfull of silicone dildos, like
the ones that like oh, thesuction cups.
Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, and soanytime anybody comes to like
party with me or like I go to aparty or like I go to any event

(01:07:10):
where I'm like, oh my god, thiswould be funny I go.
I like I unlock people's carsand I put a dildo on their
windshield so when they get intheir car and they're like
brought to drive, there's like afucking nine inch bbc hitting
them in the forehead he's got adick staring him in the face.

Speaker 2 (01:07:27):
These dildos are not cheap, that's I'm providing a
service of laugh.
You know what I mean hey, youknow you gotta spread joy and
excitement throughout theuniverse and that's your way of
doing.

Speaker 1 (01:07:41):
How are you gonna be mad if you get in the car and
you see a nine inch bbc staringyou in the face okay, we need
you in our friend group.

Speaker 2 (01:07:49):
We need you.
We need you to supplement theother wrenches in our friend
group.

Speaker 1 (01:07:52):
So like, even when I have like gatherings at my house
.
Every bathroom in my house hasdildos all over it.
Okay.
Everyone just knows like I'm atEmily's house.
It's no big deal.
It's dildo time, there's dildosslapping me in the face and I
love this shit.
It like comes from my mom, dude, my mom was like.

Speaker 2 (01:08:15):
My mom was so gnarly Like way gnarlier than me, party
you fuck dude, you already setthe bar pretty high for
gnarliness no, my mom, my mom'sthe goat.

Speaker 1 (01:08:27):
She passed away um fuck like what?
2018, what?
I don't even know what year itis.
What is 2024, so like six yearsago shit, whoa anyways.
Um, she was like an 80s queenand she was like a tour bus hoe
in the 80s.
She like all her stories are sosick.

(01:08:51):
She's like guess what I did?

Speaker 2 (01:08:54):
no, and like and you're like living in her
footsteps.
Yeah, like crazy.
You have like crazy stories tooDude, we would.

Speaker 1 (01:08:59):
I was 22 when she passed away, so I had been
living for like already fouryears at that point, just like
doing gnarly shit, and I wouldcome to my mom and be like mom.
Guess what I did.
She'd be like what?
Did you use a condom?
That was my mom.
You know she was nuts.
My mom had a hot pink pube frothat's sexy I'm not kidding.

(01:09:27):
She dyed her fucking pubes hotpink.

Speaker 2 (01:09:30):
That's crazy you know , it's interesting because, like
I said, I like the religiousparents who are always perfect,
blah, blah, blah parents, youknow, and I love them to death.
They're very good parents.
I'm so glad they brought me upin the way that.
They're extremely good, yeah.
But I do wish I had therelationship with my father that

(01:09:52):
he could tell me, like son,this is how girls are and blah,
blah, blah, but the truth ishe's very religious yeah,
christian catholic, catholicokay and he knows that I party,
he knows I've had sex before I'mmarried, yeah, but he never
brings them up and it's justkind of awkward, like like I'm

(01:10:14):
close to him but there's like alevel of closeness that I feel
like I will never get to becausehe will never bring that up,
because instead of bringing itup, it's just easier to just
like kind of pretend it isn'tthere and I get it yeah but at
the same time, like there ispart of me that wishes, like
some.
Some of my friends have thisrelationship with their father
where they're like, yeah, like Ifucked this girl last night and

(01:10:35):
blah, blah, blah, like I don'tknow.
It sounds kind of fun.
I I do wish I had.
And when I was growing up, likeI played sports, he was a gym
teacher, like we were superclose.
How did the game go?
Like all this stuff and like Ido wish that I had that
relationship with him you haveto find a balance.

Speaker 1 (01:10:51):
So I had I had the most extreme version of what you
had like opposite.

Speaker 2 (01:10:57):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:10:58):
And as a mom now, like I get to make the decision,
I get to choose how I raise achild.
I get to choose what I exposeher to.
My ultimate theory is likethey're already gonna be, like
exposed to everything you know.

(01:11:18):
Like, whether or not you likeit, as you know, you were raised
by stricter parents.
They're gonna be exposed.
Do you want them to learn itfrom a kid in middle school or
do you want them to learn itfrom you like a person who they
trust and love?
And that's my ultimate goal.

(01:11:38):
Like if there was one thing Ireally loved about my mom, it
was like I could tell hereverything and like we loved
each other but fucking hatedeach other at the same time, we
were too much alike and um, sheactually died from alcohol yeah,
yeah she just fucking sex,drugs and rock and roll.

(01:11:59):
That was all she was about.
Baby's baby, like literally thebiggest blonde afro.
You know, like her stories,dude, were insane.
I bet.
She was a little groupie hoeback in the day too, mm-hmm Sick
when she.
This is kind of of morbid.
But here's the thing I'm kindof numb to shit, so like when I

(01:12:23):
talk about things that are likea little bit heavy for some
people.
It's because I've just beenlike I've gone through it I just
don't feel things the same waythat other people do like.
My humor is different you know,but, um, when my mom was dying,
she it was crazy, crazysituation.

(01:12:43):
This is top, top two storiesever ready yeah, you ready for
this?
I'm ready, I'm ready all right,zach, so I hadn't spoken to my
mom in years and my sister andbrother.
We all got separated when wewere kids.
We got taken away from ourmama's kids and separated sorry,

(01:13:07):
we got separated and, um, my,my mom um, lived with my grandma
anyways.
I had a friend go to mygrandma's house and like,
coincidentally, do someconstruction work on her house,
and my friend called me and waslike when was the last time you

(01:13:28):
seen your mom?
And I was like a while.
And they're like you need toget in the car and you need to
come here a while.
And they're like you need toget in the car and you need to
come here.
So I went there and I saw mymom and I saw what state she was
in and I knew what washappening.
But I've been preparing myselffor this my whole fucking life.
I knew my mom was an alcoholicand drug addict, in and out of

(01:13:48):
jail, my whole life.
And so I, um, I got in the car,I went and saw her and I was
like oh shit, and I called mysister and brother, who recently
, just both my brother andsister are 15 months apart, so
they had turned 18 and 19 atthis time, okay, and both of
them ran away to me and livedwith me while they were

(01:14:10):
teenagers.
I'm not much older, but I tookmy sister and brother in when I
was like 20, 21, and they livedwith me, and so I called my
sister and brother and I toldthem, like I had a house that
they lived in, I paid foreverything, like I bought them
cars, I bought them, like I gotthem their driver's license,

(01:14:31):
like I paid for everything.
And so I was like their mom atthis time and I said, hey, look,
our mom's passing away.
You have a choice do you wantto come and do you want to like
have your farewell or do youwant to like live the rest of
your life like just knowing who?
you knew and they're like let'sdo it, fuck it, you know.

(01:14:52):
And we had like a really goodsense of humor about it and my
mom was so fucking funny dude,like when we were in the
hospital room with her, my mom,she was like I got pregnant on
one of these.
It's like a stretcher she's on.
She's like telling the hospitalstaff I got pregnant on one of

(01:15:14):
these.
And then she's like so high onmorphine and she's like, um, I
like the, I get to the hospitalthe next morning and the
hospital staff is like your momis like on one and I'm like, oh
god, what happened?
They're like she complained allnight.
That journey, like the bandjourney from the 80s, was doing

(01:15:39):
a live concert in the hotellobby for too late last night
and, um, it kept her up lastnight and I was like god damn it
, mom.
And then, anyways, that that'smy mom, right, and so during all
of this, I'm huge.
Did I say the band?

(01:16:01):
No, okay, I don't want todisclaimer shit, but anyways,
I'm a huge fan of this likegroup.

Speaker 2 (01:16:11):
You can't say if you're a fan of the group yeah,
I didn't sign a disclosure.

Speaker 1 (01:16:18):
You didn't give me an nda.
Um, it's a, it's a wholesomestory.
I'm sure you would love this.
Okay, okay.
So I'm a huge lewis the childfan.
You know what that is.

(01:16:38):
Yeah, okay, yeah.
So, like this was 2019 okay,yeah 2019.
Uh no, this is 2018.
This is 2018, and so my mom ispassing away during this exact
time, and it's like a comedictime, almost like in the most

(01:17:01):
morbid way, because my mom'sfunny as fuck and like has all
these dumb ass memories, right,and I told my mom like I was at
a party and I found out thatLouis the Child was coming to my
hometown.
And I literally got on the siteand I bought as many tickets as
I could because I knew they weregoing to sell out.
And I was like, oh, this to myhometown.
And I literally got on the siteand I bought as many tickets as
I could because I knew theywere going to sell out.
And I was like, oh, this is myhustler mentality, I'm gonna
fucking come up you know, I'mgonna get all my friends to come

(01:17:23):
.
They're gonna pay me double theprice, blah, blah, anyways, lose
the child comes to town and bythe time they finally come, my
mom's like really on herdeathbed and it's crazy.
So before I went to the firstconcert in my hometown, eugene,

(01:17:49):
I went to my mom at the hospitaland I was like, mom, I'm going
to go see my favorite DJstonight.
She was like, literally, gohave so much fun, you fucking
brat, you know.
And I took a sharpie and Iwrote Andy on the bottom of her
foot like toy story.
You know like I fucked with her, like, haha, I'm gonna go do
some shit, just like you used todo, right.

(01:18:09):
And so I went to this concertand I was kind of kind of like a
bad mood.
I did a little bit too muchecstasy and started like really
getting sick.
So I went to the bathroom, Istarted throwing up and I was
about to text my sister to comeget me and, coincidentally, I
was just like, let me look at myInstagram messages.

(01:18:31):
I don't know why, I'm justfucking high as shit and I had
posted a photo earlier in theday of like me like going to
lose a child tonight.
And, um, it's two guys soRobbie is one of them and he saw

(01:18:52):
my story because I tagged themright like while I was at the
like pre-gaming and whatnot.
And so I'm like literallythrowing up in the toilet and
I'm looking at my phone and it'slike lucid child texted you on
instagram like um, you lookreally good tonight, what are
you doing afterwards?
And I literally I was like sowhere the fuck am I?

(01:19:16):
I was just like, okay, I'm readyto go right.
And so I run back out in thecrowd and I told all my friends
I'm like, oh my God, look, look,look, no one believes me, right
?
Because we're all fuckingfucked off.
And after I didn't expectanything, right, like I was just

(01:19:38):
like whatever.
And um, after the show ended,we all went back to like my
friend's house, mind you, we'reall like 20 to 22, like we're
young.
And um, we got back to theafter party.
We're having such a great time.
I didn't expect anything.
Like I was like, oh my god, hemessaged me once, whoa, and he
messaged me again and was like,where's the after party?

(01:20:00):
And I was like, but like it'sliterally just like hometown
home.
He's like, don't expect to comehere and be like at like some
la shit, you know, because, likethese guys headlined coachella
this year, they're huge.
And they came up to the doorand they'd bring the fucking

(01:20:20):
door.
And I opened the door and I'mlike, hi, you know, and I had no
idea who has even textingthrough the Lewis the child
account, like I had no idea andRobbie came up and was like, hey
, like freddie's got a girl, hefreddie, was the other guy.
He was like in a like kind ofrelationship, whatever, but like

(01:20:41):
freddie wasn't and freddie ornot freddie, sorry, robbie,
robbie, freddie, blah, blah.
Anyways, robbie was like youknow, hey, hi, how are you?
And we had the best fuckingnight.
And these guys at the end of it, where it's like all of us like
weirdo hippies from fuckingoregon, hanging out with these

(01:21:01):
famous djs who were also thesame age as us, like we're all
about 21, 22 at this time, andthey were like we are so
thankful for you guys to give usthe opportunity to have a time
like this where we feel like ourage you know like where we're
able to like go and party andlike be around people and like

(01:21:22):
it's like you know, some collegetype shit.
So it was really fun.
It was really fun.
But um, robbie and I likecontinued to like see each other
for like a few days afterwardsand like I followed him a little
bit like on his tour date andlike my mom was passing away at
the time and I told my mom I waslike mom, like I want to go see

(01:21:42):
this guy.
He's on his next like stop.
And she'd be like no, like whatare you gonna do?
Sit here and watch me die.
You go do your fucking thing,have fun.
So I did, I went, I fucking didit, and then I came back and
the day I came back my mom likepassed away.
She's like waited for me.
It was so sick.
It was like in in true fashion.

(01:22:04):
You know, it's so fucking radthat is a a great.

Speaker 2 (01:22:10):
The thing is so, my grandpa.
He was the one who taught mepiano he's probably the biggest
influence, one of the biggestinfluence on my life yeah and it
was the same way where it wascrazy, like he was.
Like you know, it turned badpretty fast yeah, and so I flew
home to wisconsin and the day Icame we all like read him this

(01:22:31):
like letter that we like wrotefor him, you know, and then
ended up passing away that dayisn't that crazy how they wait
for you?
it is crazy, and they wait Ithink there is some scientific
thing about like your brainwants to stay alive for whatever
reason you know if there'sanything I've learned, it's that
there's something way biggerthan all of us way bigger and

(01:22:53):
the thing, too, is like, like,like, when people pass away, I
truly believe it's not about, oh, the last time you see them or
something like.
It's like about the years ofyour life that you spent with
them.
It's not about that last 10minutes you're with them.
It's about all their positivemoments, and even my grandpa

(01:23:14):
said, I remember when he's stillalive.
He's like yeah, if I pass awaysomeday, like I don't want any
of you crying at my funeral, Iwant you guys to like celebrate
my life be, happy laugh likeremember all the jokes we had
you know yeah, so yeah, no,that's.

Speaker 1 (01:23:27):
That's the shit.
Like you can choose to perceivethat kind of shit however you
want, but if you have a goodoutlook on it and you're like,
look, I I don't know how like ifyou're religious or anything
anymore.
I grew up catholic, also likespanish catholic.
It's like we spoke fuckingspanish in church.

(01:23:50):
It was crazy.
I don't even really like Ispeak spanish Spanish, but like
I'm not fluent in like you cantell me I don't see.
Yeah, so like it's all about howyou perceive this shit.
Mm-hmm, I maneuver through mylife and I feel shit.
Sometimes I feel like I'm afucking witch.

(01:24:10):
Mm-hmm.
You know, I'm like how did Ipredict that?
You know, here's like, I thinkthat if you're in tune with some
shit, you know, if you, if youbring yourself to a level of,
like, um, mutual understandingwith other people you know, you,
like you tried to understandother people you can get a feel.

(01:24:31):
Yeah.
Yeah, I don't know where elseI'm going with that.

Speaker 2 (01:24:40):
I could go on, but here yeah, we're actually about
out of time.
I think it's a perfect way toend it.
Okay, so a couple rapid firequestions.
We always do at the end Keepthings light, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:24:51):
Light.
Light as fuck Emily.
Light as fuck Emily.

Speaker 2 (01:24:57):
Favorite food Tacos, tacos, yeah, tacos.
I only like them if they'revery expensive or very cheap.
Yeah.
Like it either has to be like anice restaurant or, like some,
like taco truck.
That's like a dad and his sonhave owned it for like 30 years.
They only speak Spanish.

Speaker 1 (01:25:15):
That's my shit.
One of the two, one of the two,one of the two.
Yeah, I used to stay in, uh, Iused to live in costa rica,
mexico city and um, san diego.

Speaker 2 (01:25:24):
So I'm all about this small shit, dude like how you
rope san diego in with those twodude, this is the same shit.

Speaker 1 (01:25:31):
Basically, fuck tijuana know.

Speaker 2 (01:25:35):
It's like 10 minutes away, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:25:37):
Yeah, you want to continue partying after 2 am.
Let's just hop the border.

Speaker 2 (01:25:43):
Cross the border, came over Hong.

Speaker 1 (01:25:45):
Kong's open until 6 am.
You want to see a donkey show,you know.

Speaker 2 (01:25:50):
You're wild.

Speaker 1 (01:25:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:25:52):
Favorite.
For science what's up?

Speaker 1 (01:25:55):
I said it's for science.

Speaker 2 (01:25:59):
Of course favorite.
Uh, first what's up.

Speaker 1 (01:26:03):
I said it's for science, of course.
For for the plot, yeah, for theplot.
Favorites for its first date,spot or activity, first day,
holy shit, uh, maybe let's likego on a food tour.
So you're a foodie, yeah, I'mgonna like go try a bunch of

(01:26:23):
food spots.

Speaker 2 (01:26:24):
I love beer, huge beer girl hey, I'm from
wisconsin, I get it I'm an ipagirl, let's go, no, no no, not
ipas.
Come on like.
I get l, I get a stout, I getIPAs.

Speaker 1 (01:26:39):
Like the heaviest IPA .
I don't know if we can befriends anymore.
Nine percenters.

Speaker 2 (01:26:42):
Yeah, this might be the end of our relationship.

Speaker 1 (01:26:46):
I'm a huge IPA girl.

Speaker 2 (01:26:49):
Interesting, favorite or next travel destination.
You haven't been to that.
You want to go to.

Speaker 1 (01:26:55):
So I throw event trips right um content trips
that's my thing, it's my newbusiness venture, and um our
next content trip that we'redoing is in nashville
interesting.

Speaker 2 (01:27:08):
I used to live in nashville oh shit it doesn't
seem like much of an only fanspot, but it's a fun city dude,
there's the airbnb is the places.
So probably super cheap for avery nice place relatively
compared to anywhere else.

Speaker 1 (01:27:23):
We got this amazing airbnb dude amazing, hosted by
this cool ass propertymanagement company.
Anyways, it's playboy themes.
It's called the play, more theplaymate lounge.
It's perfect for what you'redoing absolutely half of the
girls that I work with are withplayboy, including myself.

(01:27:44):
We're all on playboy and so, um, this airbnb that we're getting
I got is insane and that's mylike, that's my business venture
right now.
It like I I don't know what'scalled yet it's a media company,
it's a production company, it'scollective.
Um, I'll figure it out.

(01:28:05):
I'm letting it come to me asfar as like brand name shit, but
as far as it goes now, it's meEmily Cox.
I throw events and I invitebeautiful models with OnlyFans
followers and Instagramfollowers and we get like
elaborate Airbnbs, right, liketop of the top, cool, eccentric.

(01:28:30):
I'm into the artsy shit.
I want weird.
I don't want some random shityou're going to see on else's
story, you know.
And, um, I run it, I fuckingrun all of it.
Now I'm hiring photographers.
My friend Joey P, he's now myhire on and um, yeah, this, this

(01:28:52):
Nashville shit is gonna beinsane.
We just I just did one in Bend,oregon, and it was amazing.
I had the best girls out thereand we had so much fun.
And here's the thing aboutthese shoots right and I'm sure
you know this because you didthe same is that if there is one
thing that only fans girls need, right content.

(01:29:16):
You can overshoot the fuck outof your house or your friend's
house or you know your street,your local spots, right.
But these destination trips atthese mansion airbnbs, they come
along with an experience, right.
So, like, um, any, any type ofshit, like I'm I'm planning one

(01:29:38):
in florida.
We're going horseback riding,you know, like an experience
that you don't ever get to dowith, like other girls who are
huge on only fans and thecrossover rate is insane.
Like after we leave these trips, the engagement rate is through
the fucking roof for everybody.
Mine was like a thousand percentafter my last one and it's just

(01:30:01):
, it's, it's insane, dude.
This shit blows my fucking mindand like I've never had the
opportunity in my life to likepursue anything that's creative,
right, like painting, drawing,like anything like that.
And now I'm finally free fromlike any burden I've ever

(01:30:22):
fucking had and I'm flying withthis shit.
Figured it, I did acid, right,I had a terrible week and I did
acid and acid told me, like youare your production, your events
, you're an event coordinatorand you do only fans and what do
only fans girls need content.

(01:30:45):
If I can organize all the shitsand eventually, I don't want
models to pay me anything, rightright now they pay you to go on
the trips right now they do.
Yes, so it's, and I don't profitanything.
Which is the coolest part aboutit is because I don't that goes
to the rental or whatever itjust pays for everything.
So what I do is I I get therental and then I get a massage

(01:31:09):
therapist on the last day tocome give us all massages before
we leave.
So everyone feel because posingand shit, doing all the
bullshit arching the back foreight hours hurts.
After two days of this shit,you're fucking dead yeah, it's
brutal, so I believe it and Iand I pay for all the food and I
and I like to tie inexperiences, but anyways, um,

(01:31:30):
yeah, I pay, the models pay meright now, but I don't profit
shit and it's like 400 500 bucks, right, but you're getting all
this shit.
My goal is to work specificallywith brands who tie into what I
do.
Right, eccentric, sexy modelswho have huge followings.
This is the new age marketing,right?

(01:31:55):
you can be a super successfulbrand just by hiring somebody
like me who has collab shootsevery other month or every two
months, and I bring in modelswho have, you know, 50 000
followers, 100 000 followers,200, you know?
Whatever the fuck it is, it'sthe engagement rates are insane

(01:32:20):
and that, above anything else,is worth it.
That's the best marketingstrategy there is nowadays and I
want to be the girl yeah,sounds like you.
You have a good handle on thingsyeah, I do, I have a good idea
good for you I've been at thisshit for a few months
Interesting and I don't plan onprofiting off this shit for a
while and trust me because Iworked in events.

(01:32:40):
I know you do.

Speaker 2 (01:32:41):
And so I know how hard it is to throw an event.
And, oh shit, the cateringshowed up late.
People aren't mad at thecatering company, they're mad at
you because it's your eventscale.

Speaker 1 (01:32:52):
yeah, yeah I understand I do 10 girls or less
.
That way, we all arecomfortable with each other.
Everyone feels close to eachother, right?
I don't want like clicky shitis bound to happen, but I don't
want like super clicky shit yeah, yeah and I don't want to have
to do it on a scale where itdoesn't feel personal like I

(01:33:12):
want this shit to be me.
You know like, eventually mygoal is to like have the chef
come.
I want multiple photographersto be there who are higher ons
and these girls are knowing thatthey're paying this amount of
money, or you know, eventually Idon't even want to have models
pay, I want to do just strictbrand sponsors, investors, only

(01:33:37):
I want to be able to ask thesegirls who have millions of
followers like you come for free.
You're guaranteed this.
All you got to do is tag thisand this and this and this post
and that's it.
Interesting One-man show too.
It's a fucking shit show.

Speaker 2 (01:33:59):
I have a two-year-old too, so that's's fun.
I'm sure it's a lot of work.
I know how much work it is atthe own event.
I know how much stress goesinto it.
I know how much that peoplejust have fun at your event and
they think, oh my god, this isjust so great and they don't
realize all the moving partsthat had to happen, all the
messages and reconfirms, and oh,they flaked, so we got to find
someone else and last secondthis happened and there's no

(01:34:20):
parking.

Speaker 1 (01:34:21):
And you know, I get it, I get it I've been doing
this shit since I was like 14events yeah, you get it.

Speaker 2 (01:34:27):
You've been doing maybe longer than me, holy dude
I literally threw a fuckingfuddy wop concert one time I
threw a taiga concert when I waslike 14.

Speaker 1 (01:34:39):
Like I was a promoter in a taiga concert.
I'm 27 this is 13 years ago,you know like I have been doing
this shit for so long and I've.
I don't want to make myselfseem like a fucking idiot yeah I
don't want people to perceiveme as like, oh, this girl has a
lot to talk, but she just likedoesn't have enough to back it.
No, I have taken my fuckingtime do it the right way.

Speaker 2 (01:35:06):
Learn the skills I didn't graduate high school.

Speaker 1 (01:35:09):
I never went to college, but here's the thing I
have street skills I know how totalk to people you know how to
sell I know how to sell sales isthe most important skill.
I'm a hustler I've always been ahustler.
I had no fucking choice.
So now I'm just like here whatI have to say because I'm

(01:35:29):
finally like confident enough tosay it.
You know like I don't want tomake myself sound like an idiot
and even coming on this podcastI was like I don't want to come
on this podcast without knowingwhat my company name is yet.
You know like, as far as myevent production goes, like my
content trips.
But here's the thing is like Icould talk about this and

(01:35:51):
somebody's gonna hear me talkabout it and hear my passion
behind this and be like I wantto talk to her.
And even if it doesn't happen,it's like I just want to talk
about what I have to say.
I have so much ambition.
I I had meltdowns for fuckingmonths, just like what is my

(01:36:15):
role in this industry?
I'm a mom now.
You know like I don't want tobe a porn star.
I went to avn awards.
I got invited to that shit.
I literally walked around.
It was just like holy shit,that's angela white.
You know like, oh my god, theseare like huge porn stars.
But like I'm like I don't wantto be that.
I want to be the bitchresponsible for the reason why

(01:36:37):
you're setting it up I want tobe the person who's in, in
control of the events, theproduction.
I want to be fucking boss.

Speaker 2 (01:36:50):
It's all like that attitude.

Speaker 1 (01:36:51):
It's all I care about yeah, good for you yeah awesome
.

Speaker 2 (01:36:55):
Well, this has been fun.
Emily.
Where can uh people find you ifthey want to connect in the
instagram?
Shout outs, anything like thatokay, tiktok only fans.

Speaker 1 (01:37:06):
It's funny because I'm like really not relative on
tiktok at all.
I'm trying to catch up with thetime, so bear with me.
But um my professionalinstagram where I um advertise
my photo shoots and my contenttrips, it's the emily cox like
t-h-e emily cox cox cable.

(01:37:29):
I don't know if you know, thatshit, but c-o-x, c-o-x, yeah,
just to be clear.
And then my bad girl side.
Her name is Amelia Escobar.

Speaker 2 (01:37:42):
Are you Latina Fraction?
Are you?

Speaker 1 (01:37:47):
You do speak Spanish, so I do, yeah, so I'll really
keep this short.
I used to work for Insomniac.
Oh, no way, I was a dancer forlike edc, okay, and so I I did
like go-go dancing and I went tomexico city with insomniac edc,
mexico city, and um, thesepeople met me there, they loved

(01:38:12):
me and they actually brought meon like with their agency in
Mexico City, which was insaneLike this shit was fucking crazy
.
I vibed with these people andthey like moved to Mexico in 19.
Anyways, they loved me so muchwe would go on these exclusive
trips.

(01:38:32):
150 models, victoria's Secretmodels 150 on a trip.
Yes, the amount of headache fora trip.

Speaker 2 (01:38:43):
So the plane tickets airbnb.
How are we getting their uberrides?
They?

Speaker 1 (01:38:45):
had hires, hires anyways.
Um, I went on one of thesetrips for the first time.
They loved me.
I was the only american thatthey invited after 150 fucking
models, only american americansare the worst, yeah yeah, they
don't like americans they love.

Speaker 2 (01:39:07):
I can tell you why, but they fucking loved me
because, I was just nuts fuckingcrazy.

Speaker 1 (01:39:12):
I think I had no filter.
Anyways, the um, when we wenton this specific trip, my friend
his name was Hako Hako- HakoBobobo Okay.
This fucking random dude.
He's awesome, but he did thesemodel trips, right, and every
year for his birthday he'd like150 girls, right, and oh God,

(01:39:36):
his birthday, he's like 150girls, right.
And, um god, like we stayed atPablo Escobar's old private
mansion in Tulum and like thisprivate mansion, it had like
tunnels underneath it where theyhid the cocaine and there's

(01:39:57):
pools like you'd go down like alittle, like you'd see a hole in
the ground and you'd walk downand be like, oh god, am I going,
am I fucked?
Like, am I gonna get?
Like what's gonna happen when Igo down this tunnel?
Right, and you'd go down andthere's like a pool and that's
where pablo escobar hit hiscocaine, right?
Anyways, my bad girl name isAmelia Escobar, because I stayed

(01:40:24):
at Pablo Escobar's privatemansion in Tulum.
It's like a, it's like a hotelnow I guess I don't know, but
the Mexicans, they loved me andthey just kept calling me.
Amelia.
Escobar, because I was crazy asfuck.
They're like that's your alterego, that's who you are.
When I created my OnlyFans andwhen I created my alternative

(01:40:46):
persona, it was like I'm AmeliaEscobar.
If you want to find me onInstagram, bad girl, shit.
Amelia Escobar.
If you want to find me onOnlyFans, Amelia Escobar.
If you want to find me onOnlyFans, Amelia Escobar.
Wait.
On Instagram it's like threeR's.
Escobar yeah, but if you want tofind my business shit where I

(01:41:08):
want like real, where I want todo cool shit, it's TheEmilyCox
awesome.

Speaker 2 (01:41:16):
Well, emily, this has been fun.
We'll have to do round two.
I feel like there's much morestories we haven't even digested
yet Should we do another.

Speaker 1 (01:41:22):
We'll do round two, we'll do round two in a month.

Speaker 2 (01:41:24):
How about that?

Speaker 1 (01:41:24):
Should we do like crazy stories?

Speaker 2 (01:41:27):
We'll do it.

Speaker 1 (01:41:28):
We'll have to do it.
Maybe you can recruit.

Speaker 2 (01:41:38):
Some people and we'll do like a multiple, multiple
person.
Should we just exchange?
Should we exchange like stories?

Speaker 1 (01:41:43):
where we didn't have to sign an nda, exposed on
camera, off camera.
Oh shit, you're about to goviral.

Speaker 2 (01:41:46):
All right, thanks for listening.

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